Episode 25 - Ghost Ships

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<v Speaker 1>[inaudible].

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back to another episode of the lunatics radio hour from quarantine.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Abby rancor and I'm joined by Alan Kadin.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello Alan.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you today?

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<v Speaker 2>Doing okay, good.

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<v Speaker 2>But to hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So today we're going to talk to you about ghost ships.

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<v Speaker 2>Ghost ghost ships both ships like, like what?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what a ghost ship is?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course I do.

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<v Speaker 2>But for those of those of the audience, I do not know.

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<v Speaker 2>I might be best to give them a quick reminder.

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<v Speaker 2>A ghost ship is a ship that's been abandoned by its crew, by its captain.

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<v Speaker 2>There's absolutely nobody on board, but it continues to flow around the ocean because it just hasn't been sunk.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so of course, of course that's fodder for tons of supernatural folklore and stories and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But like the core of ghosts chippery is just sort of like totally abandoned empty ships floating around the ocean, which is a wild thing to think about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially there's tons, if you like Google this, there's tons and tons of occurrences and even some recent ones with like huge cargo, like huge, huge, huge cargo ship washing ashore in Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 2>Just totally empty.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, when you said ghost ships, yeah, that's not what I was expecting.

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<v Speaker 2>You thought like haunted boats, haunted boats.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're going to dabble in both today.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good.

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<v Speaker 2>But as long as we were talking about the other type of ghost ship, I think it's important to know that my parents, um, are the proud owners of a ghost ship.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>They own a ghost ship?

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<v Speaker 2>How is that unclear?

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us more around, come on.

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<v Speaker 2>So back during hurricane Sandy, my parents were in their house in Queensbury Queensbury New York, about 250 miles straight North of New York city.

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<v Speaker 2>They, they, uh, were watching the news day after and it's just showing all this devastation of, you know, downed trees, vehicles that are like crack windshields and all of a sudden there's just a boat that is been, uh, beached and just cause you just showing this devastation.

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<v Speaker 2>They're looking at it like, is that our boat?

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<v Speaker 2>And then, you know, they made some calls and sure enough that was indeed their boat it had.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was their boat and it floated away during Sandy had ripped its moorings.

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<v Speaker 2>And what kind of boat?

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<v Speaker 2>Like how big is this boat?

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<v Speaker 2>So a 23 foot sea Ray, it's not huge.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that like a motor boat?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a motorboat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So to be, no, not an outboard or it was small compared to an ocean liner for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And you had ripped its moorings and floated all around the Lake.

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<v Speaker 2>I ended up, uh, on a beach that was nowhere near where it was originally docked.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're currently listening to this podcast episode and you're, you know, able to really get into the mood, you could put in the background, some YouTube videos of like ghost ships floating and rogue waves, rogue waves.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really my jam.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Love rogue waves.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We could do a whole episode on those and we probably will.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that won't stop us from sharing our Broadway facts now.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, go for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, well please.

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<v Speaker 2>You're, you're, you're come on old people want to hear your roadway.

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<v Speaker 2>Facts.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So the rogue wave was thought to be a myth for hundreds of years because it was just tales from sailors about Oh wave that was 200 feet tall and just one, uh, in the middle of the ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing was those tales were very far and few between because nine times out of 10, if you're sailing this like wooden ship and you get hit with a 200 foot wave, you're the ship's going down and there will be no survivors.

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<v Speaker 2>The roadway wasn't confirmed until sometime in the late 19 hundreds when a offshore oil rig, which had wave sensors, I was actually able to document for the first time an actual rope wave where it was just one wave about 200 feet tall and that was it.

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<v Speaker 2>And from then on, road waves have been informed by science.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what causes them?

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<v Speaker 2>I do tell us the causality is still a bit debate.

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<v Speaker 2>It just cause there's multiple things that can cause it.

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<v Speaker 2>However, the most common reason behind a rogue wave is when you have two different wave patterns.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when they meet, if they meet at just the right wavelength, it's effectively constructive interference, unlike destructive interference.

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<v Speaker 2>So like noise canceling headphones where it just plays the inverse of the, of the sound wave when they just cancel each other out, constructive interference actually build upon each other.

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<v Speaker 2>So the two waves meet at just the right moment and they just stack on top of each other and just become this massive, massive wave for just as very brief amount of time.

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<v Speaker 2>The damage that they can do during that one time is astronomical and they disappeared never to be seen again.

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<v Speaker 2>So cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>The ocean is a wild place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Not even to mention the whales, the whales, you know how whales from like one can be like in Nova Scotia and one can be off the coast of like Florida or Cuba and they'll send notes back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>So whale in Cuba will like put out one tone in the whale in Nova Scotia will match it and they send it through these kind of like underwater channels, you know, they'll match the tone and send it back like hundreds and hundreds of miles and they'll do it back and forth and back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm glad we're talking whale facts now.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't need to go into the whole Moby Dick saga.

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<v Speaker 2>Dewey, do you know what the loudest animal on the planet is?

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<v Speaker 2>The sperm whale.

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<v Speaker 2>The sperm whale.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>They make these clicking sounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it doesn't sound exactly like that because tons of it is sub harmonic, so you can't, the human ear cannot hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's just so deafeningly loud that not only can the sound waves travel literally across oceans and they can just talk to boils on different parts of the planet, but it's so loud that they actually have weaponized it and it's theorized that, well we don't actually know exactly how sperm wheels hunt because they haunted such depths that we can't train, we can't observe it, but they actually click so loud that the sound pressure can injure and stun their prey for the first time ever.

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<v Speaker 2>In recent years, divers have been able to observe this because if you go down there with um, school gear, all the bubbles and stuff, spook them so they won't do it, but free divers have gone down and stayed with the whales long enough so that they'll start clicking.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was this one account of this diver who was experiencing this and his, it was just, it's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just, you can't hear it as loud as it should be.

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<v Speaker 2>It's still very loud, especially because sound travels so well and water, but there's just so much sound pressure behind it.

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<v Speaker 2>His body was physically heating up because of the vibrations.

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<v Speaker 2>So like they can just, if this keeps going on it can actually like jelly and liquefy organs cause it's allowed.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think we should start an ocean facts podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>I think we've covered most of it already.

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<v Speaker 2>And those are all the facts we know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's, that's wild.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really mind blowing to think about.

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<v Speaker 2>What are we talking about today?

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<v Speaker 2>Ghost ship goes ships that float a top.

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<v Speaker 2>The ocean water not beneath them.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll get back to Wilcox, another episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So quick little a table of contents for today.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to walk you through one of the most famous incidents of a ghost ship and kind of like one of the first really unsolved.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really the most famous like unsolved ghost ship mystery, which is why I kind of comes up often when people are talking about ghost ships.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Cause there's got, it's unresolved and then we have a story or two for, you know, ship related story.

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<v Speaker 2>So prepared to be a download I suppose.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to kick things off by talking about the Mary Celeste.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard of this?

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<v Speaker 2>Nope.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The Mary Celeste was an American merchant ship.

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<v Speaker 2>It was discovered floating on December 4th, 1872 with absolutely nobody on board.

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<v Speaker 2>She had departed in New York city for Genoa on a goods run, bringing 1700 bottles of alcohol to England on November 7th, 1872 and I'm going to say just really quickly, the alcohol was not like drinking bottles of rum, like it was extremely highly concentrated.

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<v Speaker 2>That I think would then be further or

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<v Speaker 3>brewed into something drinkable, but it was, got it.

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<v Speaker 3>This comes up later, so I just want to call that out.

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<v Speaker 3>She was discovered a drift by a ship called the Duke grata, which was actually a captain by a friend of the Mary Celeste captain.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a, you know, the story is kind of infamous in that a month earlier, the captain of the Mary Celeste and the captain of the de grata were actually in the upper East side, New York city at the Astor club having dinner.

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<v Speaker 3>And little did they know that a month later one of those captains and they, you know, these guys were like best friends and they just happened to be kind of doing this run and like a week apart.

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<v Speaker 3>Like they were both kind of going to the same.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're both doing Ron's for the same stuff, right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>They're both making the same route essentially, but a week apart.

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<v Speaker 3>And the Mary Celeste was the much, much faster ship.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's no reason that the de gradish would have ever caught up to the Mary Celeste, you know, because it should have been totally done.

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<v Speaker 3>But the, with the route before the Dakota ever even left New York city.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's kind of just like one of those wild parts of this that these guys are actually kind of like very close friends and you know, in the same circles and whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>They were having dinner right before the Marys last departed.

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<v Speaker 3>And then next thing that happened is this guy kind of came across his friends, abandoned floating ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of a bummer.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Mary Celeste was still provisioned when she was found.

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<v Speaker 3>She was still provisioned with six months of food.

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<v Speaker 3>Her lifeboat was missing and the last log entry was dated 10 days earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>The captain and crews personal belongings were undisturbed but still onboard.

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<v Speaker 3>No one on board was ever seen or heard from again.

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<v Speaker 3>No bodies were found.

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<v Speaker 3>No one ever showed up anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the end of it.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's look back for a second.

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<v Speaker 3>One thing about the Mary SLAs that's fascinating is that she actually was a cursed ship, meaning from the time of her maiden voyage, she was met with accidents, sick crew members and collisions.

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<v Speaker 3>She was eventually even sold because she was running our ground.

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<v Speaker 3>The new owner, we named her from Amazon to Mary Celeste, and she had an uneventful bit of time before doing timber and trade runs to England and the West Indies, which is kind of where we find her.

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<v Speaker 3>But just one thing to kind of point out here that sailors are, especially sailors around this time are sort of like historically superstitious.

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<v Speaker 3>So from her maiden voyage, she was met with kind of like superstition and you know, rumor, because she, she really did have a ton of, had luck out there.

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<v Speaker 3>The captain got sick and they had to turn back.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, she was in multiple crashes.

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<v Speaker 3>She hit multiple ships.

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<v Speaker 3>And so finally when she kind of ran a ground, the, the first owners didn't really want to deal with her anymore because, you know, she had this reputation of being this curse boat.

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<v Speaker 3>And so they sold her to new owners who then just renamed her and used her for these shipping routes and all was fine.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's her kind of like dark history.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so I wouldn't really say I'm a terribly superstitious person, but you are a little stiff.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a little stitious.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>However, there's a number of reasons why a ship like that could be abandoned.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, hang on.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to get into the theories of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Alright.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll place my bets now.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to be on a bet now before I go into it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your bet?

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<v Speaker 3>My bet is that they all decided to go swimming and then they all looked at each other like, Oh no one put the ladder over, Don.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go.

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<v Speaker 3>That could be it.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll never know.

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<v Speaker 3>So flashing back to when the boat was discovered, floating and abandoned.

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<v Speaker 3>The ship's interior was wet and damaged, but still functional.

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<v Speaker 3>She wasn't leaking in some sales were raised.

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<v Speaker 3>Most of the ships papers and navigational equipment was missing onboard.

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<v Speaker 3>There was captain Briggs, his wife and daughter and seven crew members.

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<v Speaker 3>So 10 people total.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Not a huge crew.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not a huge crew at all, but 10 people is a lot to go missing without a trace.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Especially on like a lifeboat or something else.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>The last log was from 8:00 AM on November 27th and located the boat about 400 miles from where it was discovered and it was discovered off the coast of the[inaudible], the islands, which are totally like near Portugal.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>My parents actually went there and got me a beautiful bracelet.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Following their log, it seems they were navigating fairly accurately and then suddenly there was a deviation to the North towards the Zuora is like away from kind of like the standard route.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So something had caused them and this was logged.

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<v Speaker 3>This was part of like the navigation.

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<v Speaker 3>Something had, something had caused them to try to go around.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>To cut to, to take a different route and then they were abandoned.

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<v Speaker 3>So got it.

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<v Speaker 3>The weird thing is that this was a very, very experienced captain.

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<v Speaker 3>Briggs wouldn't leave the boat unless he thought it was going down.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>And even then, captain captains, especially at this time where I'm supposed to do that, the Mary less clearly was not going to sink.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody agreed on that.

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<v Speaker 3>So the fact that he left the boat and that everybody left the boat was, is I think the very like crux of this is what makes it such a weird mystery.

00:14:51.910 --> 00:14:53.889
<v Speaker 3>Because she clearly was functional.

00:14:53.890 --> 00:14:55.149
<v Speaker 3>There was nothing leaking.

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<v Speaker 3>They had to be scared about something.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>And so of course, let's talk about the leading theories here.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to redact my theory then.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so one theory is pirates, right?

00:15:07.061 --> 00:15:11.110
<v Speaker 3>Like that's what you're saying that sarcastically.

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<v Speaker 3>That's definitely, yeah, no.

00:15:12.730 --> 00:15:15.279
<v Speaker 3>Well, here's the reason why I don't think it's pirates.

00:15:15.940 --> 00:15:19.210
<v Speaker 3>The reason I don't think it's parents, so it's all of their effects are so important.

00:15:19.809 --> 00:15:28.149
<v Speaker 3>A lifeboat was missing, but all of the cargo is still on board, all the 1700 bottles of alcohol untouched.

00:15:29.210 --> 00:15:41.629
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't make sense that pirates would come aboard and just take the human beings and not take any of the cargo or belongings or you know, money like stuff that was actually valuable for trade.

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<v Speaker 3>So another major theory is mutiny.

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<v Speaker 3>At the time investigator saw, they found strange marks, which could have been caused by an ax and bloodstains.

00:15:50.330 --> 00:15:55.789
<v Speaker 3>However, it was later proven that the bloodstains were not blood and the markings were normal wear and tear.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>One actual theory is alien abduction.

00:16:00.259 --> 00:16:03.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean when I say actual theory, I mean according to the internet of course.

00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:08.330
<v Speaker 3>But of course, why would a lifeboat be missing if they were a band of they were abducted by aliens.

00:16:09.350 --> 00:16:11.360
<v Speaker 3>Another is natural disaster.

00:16:12.169 --> 00:16:18.500
<v Speaker 3>So one of, I think one of the more relevant theories is that the extreme weather scared off the crew.

00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:29.480
<v Speaker 3>And just to kind of set the scene on the weather piece here this year, specifically 1872 was known for, its like terrible weather.

00:16:29.509 --> 00:16:32.870
<v Speaker 3>Like there was more storms across the ocean that year.

00:16:33.049 --> 00:16:39.320
<v Speaker 3>Then like any other, and tons of ships either ran into storms and sank or had to turn around.

00:16:39.321 --> 00:16:45.500
<v Speaker 3>So it was like a thing, you know, in this community that there was really, really bad storms this summer.

00:16:45.590 --> 00:16:46.009
<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>But why would this sales still be up?

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>If it was bad weather.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

00:16:51.081 --> 00:16:53.659
<v Speaker 3>But why else would he leave?

00:16:54.139 --> 00:16:59.120
<v Speaker 3>You know, like maybe they just decided but it's also like they wouldn't be more protected from the weather.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:09.470
<v Speaker 3>In a lifeboat unless they thought they were much closer to the shore than they actually were unless another boat came by that for whatever reason.

00:17:09.500 --> 00:17:22.430
<v Speaker 3>Well I mean the Mary Celeste wasn't sinking so why did they leave her if it's a really bad storm and because I don't know the size of this boat blood based off its 10 person crew.

00:17:22.460 --> 00:17:22.789
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

00:17:22.910 --> 00:17:24.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm guessing it's pretty small.

00:17:24.230 --> 00:17:24.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

00:17:25.279 --> 00:17:32.269
<v Speaker 3>If you know something that had multiple decks, you know, came by, uh, and they're just like, Oh please help us.

00:17:32.270 --> 00:17:34.609
<v Speaker 3>Then you know, maybe they just jumped ship maybe.

00:17:35.089 --> 00:17:35.390
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

00:17:35.450 --> 00:17:41.900
<v Speaker 3>I mean yeah that November in 1872 hundreds of vessels had been lost to Rocky season storms.

00:17:41.990 --> 00:17:48.710
<v Speaker 3>Although I want to retract that theory as well because I feel like the captain would have put that in his log maybe.

00:17:48.859 --> 00:17:49.130
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

00:17:49.131 --> 00:17:54.559
<v Speaker 3>You would think like if they had time to think, they would have written like, you know, something.

00:17:54.980 --> 00:17:54.980
<v Speaker 3>Right.

00:17:56.240 --> 00:18:08.089
<v Speaker 3>Another theory which answers questions, but it does seem a little implausible to me is that for some reason, because this, this boat was so filled with this really, really dense alcohol, right?

00:18:08.150 --> 00:18:08.420
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

00:18:08.660 --> 00:18:12.619
<v Speaker 3>The crew could have thought for whatever reason, maybe there was a small fire on board.

00:18:13.009 --> 00:18:14.480
<v Speaker 3>They could have thought it was gonna blow.

00:18:14.930 --> 00:18:15.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, sure.

00:18:15.769 --> 00:18:16.130
<v Speaker 3>Right.

00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:20.150
<v Speaker 3>And so that's one of the theories that there could have been a small explosion from the cargo.

00:18:20.151 --> 00:18:23.990
<v Speaker 3>Maybe one of the, one of the bottles did, you know, explode or something.

00:18:24.289 --> 00:18:27.049
<v Speaker 3>And so they thought that a huge explosion was inevitable.

00:18:27.050 --> 00:18:28.259
<v Speaker 3>And so they hurried off.

00:18:28.529 --> 00:18:29.369
<v Speaker 2>That's reasonable.

00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:38.339
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there wasn't like huge, um, traces of a fire or anything when, when the boat was discovered, but they could have thought for some reason that it was going to blow.

00:18:38.490 --> 00:18:40.859
<v Speaker 2>So now we're going full speculation.

00:18:40.950 --> 00:18:41.250
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:18:41.579 --> 00:18:49.440
<v Speaker 2>But what if there was a sabot tour and he says, quick, quick, the boat's going to blow.

00:18:49.441 --> 00:18:51.809
<v Speaker 2>There's fire below everyone into the lifeboat.

00:18:52.109 --> 00:18:57.390
<v Speaker 2>They all hurry into the lifeboat and there's some kind of accident in the chaos.

00:18:57.450 --> 00:19:00.630
<v Speaker 2>And he, you know, he ends up on the lifeboat with them.

00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Right.

00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:12.630
<v Speaker 2>Or maybe he was expecting to come back and you know, take it all with his pirate buddy friends for whatever reason they were unable to get the boat right.

00:19:13.259 --> 00:19:15.269
<v Speaker 2>I mean, so kind of related to that.

00:19:15.299 --> 00:19:30.329
<v Speaker 2>One of the, the reason why I brought up at the beginning that this alcohol is not drinkable is that there was a lot of speculation around, I had mentioned mutiny, but a drunken mutiny essentially like that some of the crew got drunk and like, you know, threaten the flight for the daughter or something.

00:19:30.690 --> 00:19:32.730
<v Speaker 2>But again, this alcohol isn't drink a ball.

00:19:32.759 --> 00:19:37.299
<v Speaker 2>So in its current state, you know, people aren't, you can't chug a bottle of it, will you?

00:19:37.300 --> 00:19:39.119
<v Speaker 2>You can, you would probably die.

00:19:39.839 --> 00:19:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Right?

00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:42.089
<v Speaker 2>What, what time was it?

00:19:43.140 --> 00:19:45.750
<v Speaker 2>1872 no, no time of day.

00:19:47.220 --> 00:19:47.819
<v Speaker 2>What are you, I don't know.

00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:48.269
<v Speaker 2>We don't know.

00:19:48.270 --> 00:19:48.839
<v Speaker 2>We aren't there.

00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:50.369
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it was November.

00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:52.109
<v Speaker 2>We don't know when this happened.

00:19:52.140 --> 00:19:54.150
<v Speaker 2>There's a 10 day period of time when that could have happened.

00:19:54.151 --> 00:19:59.519
<v Speaker 2>You could always just follow the instructions of what to do with a drunken sailor early in the morning.

00:19:59.910 --> 00:20:00.210
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

00:20:00.539 --> 00:20:04.230
<v Speaker 2>So that is the unsolved mystery of the Mary Celeste.

00:20:04.769 --> 00:20:10.680
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of possibilities, but everything is plot holes in it.

00:20:11.009 --> 00:20:11.309
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:20:11.940 --> 00:20:12.359
<v Speaker 2>Interesting.

00:20:12.420 --> 00:20:14.009
<v Speaker 2>It's like I'm Roanoke.

00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:15.450
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:20:15.990 --> 00:20:19.049
<v Speaker 2>One of those kind of like historical unsolved mysteries.

00:20:19.349 --> 00:20:23.220
<v Speaker 2>Well, Roanoke was for me that was more straightforward.

00:20:23.670 --> 00:20:25.680
<v Speaker 2>No, no, for sure.

00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:26.910
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no.

00:20:26.940 --> 00:20:28.619
<v Speaker 2>Roanoke was a coastal town.

00:20:29.579 --> 00:20:34.380
<v Speaker 2>If they see a ship in the Bay with absolutely no crew, they're going to go to it.

00:20:34.589 --> 00:20:36.660
<v Speaker 2>Everyone went on a boat lift it.

00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Are you talking about Roanoke and Marisol and the Marys less together?

00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:42.390
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:48.299
<v Speaker 2>So the crew of the Mary Celeste was in Roanoke when it disappeared.

00:20:48.329 --> 00:20:48.750
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

00:20:49.230 --> 00:20:50.549
<v Speaker 2>We just solved the mysteries.

00:20:50.640 --> 00:20:51.089
<v Speaker 2>That's right.

00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:54.720
<v Speaker 2>Just so everyone, just to really be clear, none of that is true.

00:20:55.660 --> 00:20:59.039
<v Speaker 2>None of it has also been scientifically disproven.

00:20:59.519 --> 00:20:59.849
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:21:00.660 --> 00:21:01.650
<v Speaker 2>What year was growing up?

00:21:01.651 --> 00:21:02.279
<v Speaker 2>Do we even know?

00:21:02.700 --> 00:21:06.420
<v Speaker 2>Roanoke was a, one of the pre-war events.

00:21:06.900 --> 00:21:26.289
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of really quick just to shout out to, um, the storm of the century, which actually funny, there's a sermon of the century, which is a Stephen King novel masterpiece, but there's a mini series, has Roanoke as part of the storyline and it's wonderful and I make

00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:27.670
<v Speaker 3>Allen watch it from time to time.

00:21:27.730 --> 00:21:31.089
<v Speaker 3>It's very good shout out to my mom for bringing that into my life.

00:21:31.210 --> 00:21:38.109
<v Speaker 3>But then there's also the perfect storm, which is a boat like storm movie, which is a wonderful movie.

00:21:38.140 --> 00:21:46.869
<v Speaker 3>So if you're looking for films, film, you know, the film watch list to go with this episode, the perfect storm and storm of the century.

00:21:47.109 --> 00:21:50.740
<v Speaker 3>I think the wave from a perfect storm was a tsunami.

00:21:51.279 --> 00:21:51.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

00:21:51.670 --> 00:21:52.569
<v Speaker 3>Not a rogue wave.

00:21:53.230 --> 00:21:53.470
<v Speaker 3>Right.

00:21:53.471 --> 00:21:55.240
<v Speaker 3>But it's still just like Rocky seas.

00:21:55.539 --> 00:21:55.930
<v Speaker 3>Right.

00:21:55.931 --> 00:21:57.759
<v Speaker 3>But RO waves never make landfall.

00:21:57.849 --> 00:21:59.559
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember landfall in that movie.

00:21:59.560 --> 00:22:01.089
<v Speaker 3>I thought they were just out in the middle of the ocean.

00:22:01.539 --> 00:22:29.130
<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'm confusing it with day after tomorrow.

00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:31.289
<v Speaker 3>I guess we'll have to watch it.

00:22:31.410 --> 00:22:32.160
<v Speaker 3>All right, we'll get back to it.

00:22:32.161 --> 00:22:34.529
<v Speaker 3>Let's all watch it together for the next episode.

00:22:34.650 --> 00:22:35.430
<v Speaker 3>Everyone go watch it.

00:22:35.490 --> 00:22:37.559
<v Speaker 3>We watched a movie called go ship.

00:22:38.190 --> 00:22:39.509
<v Speaker 3>We did watch a movie called Gosha.

00:22:39.569 --> 00:22:48.269
<v Speaker 3>I guess that could be added to your watch list for this episode, which is interesting because that was so, yeah, it is just called ghost ship.

00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:49.319
<v Speaker 3>It's a good movie.

00:22:49.349 --> 00:22:54.750
<v Speaker 3>And if you Google ghost ship as I've done a lot in the past few days, you'll get a lot of hits for that movie.

00:22:54.900 --> 00:23:05.460
<v Speaker 3>So I think that's a very, it's interesting you bring that up because that bridges the true definition of a ghost ship of an unmanned ship with what I thought we were talking about, which is a haunted ship.

00:23:05.730 --> 00:23:05.730
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

00:23:07.170 --> 00:23:12.690
<v Speaker 3>Well it's a good bridge because our stories kind of, um, dabble in both a little bit.

00:23:12.779 --> 00:23:13.230
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

00:23:13.470 --> 00:23:14.549
<v Speaker 3>Well what did you think of that movie?

00:23:14.550 --> 00:23:16.619
<v Speaker 3>Would you I don't, there's one.

00:23:16.621 --> 00:23:17.279
<v Speaker 3>I'll say this.

00:23:17.789 --> 00:23:22.319
<v Speaker 3>There's one shot at the beginning of that movie that is fucking crazy.

00:23:22.320 --> 00:23:23.759
<v Speaker 3>It will stick with me forever.

00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:25.529
<v Speaker 3>And it was spoilers.

00:23:25.559 --> 00:23:26.519
<v Speaker 3>It's graphic.

00:23:26.520 --> 00:23:28.049
<v Speaker 3>So just warning on that.

00:23:28.650 --> 00:23:30.269
<v Speaker 3>But it's crazy.

00:23:31.319 --> 00:23:34.200
<v Speaker 3>The movie, I think I could like leave, I could take her leave.

00:23:34.201 --> 00:23:36.210
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't the most amazing movie.

00:23:36.211 --> 00:23:37.920
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't really recommend it to people.

00:23:37.921 --> 00:23:38.180
<v Speaker 3>But

00:23:38.269 --> 00:23:40.519
<v Speaker 2>we did watch it more for the name and the cover art.

00:23:40.700 --> 00:23:41.059
<v Speaker 2>Right.

00:23:41.180 --> 00:23:48.319
<v Speaker 2>Which is, uh, you know, an a freighter with like a skull kind of ghostly indented into the bow.

00:23:48.539 --> 00:23:48.900
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

00:23:49.740 --> 00:23:50.460
<v Speaker 3>But it's fun.

00:23:50.609 --> 00:23:52.769
<v Speaker 3>It's like a fun late night falling asleep movie.

00:23:53.309 --> 00:23:53.309
<v Speaker 3>Dude.

00:23:53.819 --> 00:23:55.349
<v Speaker 3>Do you remember the shot that I'm talking about?

00:23:55.380 --> 00:23:56.160
<v Speaker 3>I certainly do.

00:23:56.210 --> 00:23:56.450
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

00:23:57.099 --> 00:24:04.809
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I, I really thought that when you're talking about ghost ships, we're going to talk about like, like the flying Dutchman.

00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Do you know a lot about the fine detriment?

00:24:07.059 --> 00:24:08.049
<v Speaker 2>I know a few things.

00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:08.890
<v Speaker 2>Well, tell us.

00:24:09.579 --> 00:24:10.390
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what do you want to know?

00:24:10.700 --> 00:24:12.250
<v Speaker 3>Making me beg you for information?

00:24:12.329 --> 00:24:31.200
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, well, it's so, I mean, I was excited to learn about other ghost ships besides like the most famous ghost ship, the legend of the flying Dutchman dates back to the 17 hundreds of an actual ship, um, that people would see at sea.

00:24:31.201 --> 00:24:35.130
<v Speaker 2>They would see it sailing around once it became famous.

00:24:35.131 --> 00:24:39.509
<v Speaker 2>If you saw it, it was a really bad home in that your ship would never make landfall again.

00:24:40.470 --> 00:24:53.259
<v Speaker 2>Um, if you hailed the ship, then the sailors on it would try like ask for news of home and whatnot and like try give you letters to give to their loved ones that have been dead for like hundreds of years.

00:24:53.349 --> 00:24:56.049
<v Speaker 2>But it was just generally like a super awful woman.

00:24:56.269 --> 00:25:01.029
<v Speaker 2>It's kinda cool cause like, you know, I, I was familiar with it from both pirates of the Caribbean and SpongeBob.

00:25:02.170 --> 00:25:05.289
<v Speaker 2>Um, but you know, it's supposed to be this ship that like flies.

00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:10.509
<v Speaker 2>It's sales like above the water, like through the air, like Peter pan boat.

00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:17.410
<v Speaker 2>But you know, those can be explained with like mirages and phenomena like that.

00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:22.539
<v Speaker 2>It's, I mean for me that it's, it's just really cool about like a cursed pirate ship.

00:25:22.599 --> 00:25:23.589
<v Speaker 2>I think that's really cool.

00:25:23.590 --> 00:25:29.230
<v Speaker 2>Or we'll do, we know the origin of it, like did an actual boat go down and that's, and it's based off of that.

00:25:30.579 --> 00:25:32.349
<v Speaker 2>Um, it's all super debatable.

00:25:32.500 --> 00:25:41.890
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a Hunter, but I know that like from like the pop culture references of recent times, they're all pulling from different sources.

00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:42.730
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:25:42.970 --> 00:25:51.190
<v Speaker 2>Coming back to SpongeBob here, like the flying Dutchman's ship was like modeled after the queen Anne's revenge.

00:25:51.789 --> 00:25:52.329
<v Speaker 2>What's that?

00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:54.549
<v Speaker 2>Blackberry or chip, how do you know so much about this?

00:25:54.789 --> 00:25:56.859
<v Speaker 2>I like, I like, how do I not know pirates?

00:25:56.890 --> 00:25:57.490
<v Speaker 2>I do too.

00:25:57.670 --> 00:25:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:01.000
<v Speaker 2>The queen Anne's revenge was Blackbeard's ship.

00:26:01.029 --> 00:26:02.079
<v Speaker 2>So black period.

00:26:02.140 --> 00:26:06.789
<v Speaker 2>Whose real name was Edward, um, teach or thatch depending on who you ask.

00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:07.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:26:07.390 --> 00:26:10.690
<v Speaker 2>Cause all these things are just not exactly written down perfectly.

00:26:10.930 --> 00:26:24.490
<v Speaker 2>That ship was just very famous cause he was like one of the most famous pirates that due to his skills as you know, uh, uh, as a captain and just like his Naval skills in general, uh, his, uh, rating abilities are awesome.

00:26:25.180 --> 00:26:28.029
<v Speaker 2>And his rate like ability to rate other shifts to take a prize.

00:26:28.030 --> 00:26:28.299
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:26:28.539 --> 00:26:39.910
<v Speaker 2>So you know, if there's a merchant ship out there and all yet, if basically he had just such a reputation that all he had to do is fly his flag and people would surrender.

00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:41.619
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I like that power.

00:26:41.710 --> 00:26:41.980
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:26:42.250 --> 00:26:48.099
<v Speaker 2>Because yeah, you basically set up this Methow is that like, Oh, if you resist, you will die.

00:26:48.670 --> 00:26:49.930
<v Speaker 2>That's just across the board.

00:26:49.930 --> 00:26:51.789
<v Speaker 2>You, you know, you leave the survivor to tell the tale.

00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:52.119
<v Speaker 2>Right.

00:26:52.150 --> 00:27:00.130
<v Speaker 2>The ship itself is kind of beatable because like most pirate ships aren't like built to be pirate ships.

00:27:00.579 --> 00:27:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Right.

00:27:00.910 --> 00:27:01.930
<v Speaker 2>They were commandeered.

00:27:02.019 --> 00:27:02.410
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:27:02.470 --> 00:27:05.769
<v Speaker 2>So it's when pirate ships take a better ship.

00:27:06.369 --> 00:27:06.670
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:27:07.390 --> 00:27:11.109
<v Speaker 2>Then they just appropriate it and fly their flags.

00:27:11.710 --> 00:27:12.009
<v Speaker 2>Right.

00:27:12.460 --> 00:27:17.829
<v Speaker 2>But then, you know, you get really cool looking things like, especially like pirates of the Caribbean.

00:27:17.980 --> 00:27:23.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like now we're not looking, well the queen Anne's revenge I guess think that was also empowered to the Caribbean.

00:27:24.130 --> 00:27:27.369
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of, yeah, there's a lot of, you mean like in Paris?

00:27:27.460 --> 00:27:42.339
<v Speaker 2>So the Caribbean five, yeah, there's a lot of there it gets, it gets convoluted for the, but there's a lot, there's a lot going on with pirate lore that, so when I started reading a while, I started reading pirate latitudes by Michael Crane.

00:27:42.700 --> 00:27:42.700
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:27:42.910 --> 00:27:47.720
<v Speaker 2>And before I picked that up, I was just like searching for like what pirate novels are there

00:27:48.289 --> 00:27:55.130
<v Speaker 3>as you've been watching black sails and so like, which is a prequel to treasure Island, which I absolutely love.

00:27:55.190 --> 00:28:01.549
<v Speaker 3>Speaking of, actually my dad has hundreds, not hundreds, but dozens of books in this pirate series that he's read.

00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:02.029
<v Speaker 3>Really?

00:28:02.089 --> 00:28:02.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

00:28:02.361 --> 00:28:03.470
<v Speaker 3>So I'll get them for you.

00:28:03.589 --> 00:28:04.190
<v Speaker 3>Oh, cool.

00:28:04.309 --> 00:28:06.170
<v Speaker 3>I forget what this year, master and commander.

00:28:06.230 --> 00:28:07.099
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.

00:28:07.390 --> 00:28:09.559
<v Speaker 3>Have you seen the, well, the Russel Crowe movie?

00:28:09.769 --> 00:28:09.980
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

00:28:10.009 --> 00:28:14.420
<v Speaker 3>But he has like, there's like 20 books in the story, so you can definitely borrow them.

00:28:14.930 --> 00:28:16.519
<v Speaker 3>Have you seen the Russell Chrome movie?

00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:18.339
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think he made us all go see it.

00:28:18.710 --> 00:28:19.369
<v Speaker 3>Phenomenal.

00:28:19.730 --> 00:28:21.230
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely incredible.

00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:23.720
<v Speaker 3>So add that to your watch list too.

00:28:23.809 --> 00:28:24.289
<v Speaker 3>You bet.

00:28:24.980 --> 00:28:25.519
<v Speaker 3>I haven't.

00:28:25.789 --> 00:28:27.710
<v Speaker 3>Like what year did it come out?

00:28:28.289 --> 00:28:28.700
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I don't know.

00:28:28.730 --> 00:28:29.839
<v Speaker 3>Early two thousands maybe.

00:28:29.869 --> 00:28:30.230
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

00:28:30.289 --> 00:28:41.450
<v Speaker 3>I definitely need to rewatch it, but again, there's just not enough, I guess just because they're so expensive to make, but there's just not enough ships, not enough movies about big wooden ships fighting each other.

00:28:41.930 --> 00:28:42.410
<v Speaker 3>Sure.

00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

00:28:43.369 --> 00:28:44.359
<v Speaker 3>Well that are done well.

00:28:44.630 --> 00:28:44.900
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:45.769
<v Speaker 3>It's expensive.

00:28:45.770 --> 00:28:46.220
<v Speaker 3>Of course.

00:28:46.221 --> 00:28:46.460
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

00:28:46.910 --> 00:28:49.579
<v Speaker 3>Well we've definitely gone off on yet another segue.

00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:49.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

00:28:49.910 --> 00:28:50.750
<v Speaker 3>But this is very cool.

00:28:51.109 --> 00:28:52.009
<v Speaker 3>Pirate ships now.

00:28:52.069 --> 00:28:52.339
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

00:28:52.369 --> 00:28:56.329
<v Speaker 3>Well we'll definitely just not even want a ghost ship is no, but it's all related.

00:28:56.330 --> 00:28:56.900
<v Speaker 3>It's all cool.

00:28:57.890 --> 00:28:58.730
<v Speaker 3>Just cause it's a ship.

00:28:58.849 --> 00:28:59.990
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like it.

00:29:00.410 --> 00:29:00.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

00:29:00.681 --> 00:29:05.990
<v Speaker 3>So shall I, um, steer us on how we should get back on track.

00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:07.819
<v Speaker 3>Did you like my nautical metaphor?

00:29:08.900 --> 00:29:09.349
<v Speaker 3>What'd you say?

00:29:09.529 --> 00:29:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Steer us.

00:29:10.609 --> 00:29:11.269
<v Speaker 3>Steer us.

00:29:11.660 --> 00:29:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

00:29:12.289 --> 00:29:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Steer your boat.

00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:14.390
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

00:29:14.450 --> 00:29:17.690
<v Speaker 3>So I wrote a story for this episode.

00:29:17.869 --> 00:29:20.750
<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's called Shepherd's light.

00:29:21.829 --> 00:29:22.339
<v Speaker 3>Shepherd's light.

00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:25.160
<v Speaker 3>It's a subtle story.

00:29:26.269 --> 00:29:26.269
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

00:29:26.329 --> 00:29:26.869
<v Speaker 3>I'll say that.

00:29:27.109 --> 00:29:27.859
<v Speaker 3>All right, cool.

00:29:28.940 --> 00:29:30.690
<v Speaker 4>Uh, uh,

00:29:39.130 --> 00:29:41.230
<v Speaker 3>at the end of Shepherd's lane was the lighthouse.

00:29:41.380 --> 00:29:42.819
<v Speaker 3>It has since been torn down.

00:29:43.150 --> 00:29:47.319
<v Speaker 3>It was a lawsuit waiting to happen, but many residents had protested its removal.

00:29:47.619 --> 00:29:49.660
<v Speaker 3>It was a staple in the town for decades.

00:29:50.049 --> 00:29:55.089
<v Speaker 3>Adorning the postcards and the local trinket shops and providing the background for their holiday cards.

00:29:55.690 --> 00:30:00.130
<v Speaker 3>But alas, it was removed on a cold January day in 1972.

00:30:00.789 --> 00:30:02.529
<v Speaker 3>It's slender, black and white swirled.

00:30:02.530 --> 00:30:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Metal sides were dismantled and the glass was carefully recycled, but it remained in the memories of many.

00:30:09.309 --> 00:30:13.569
<v Speaker 3>When she was only 12 Maddie had climbed up onto the old rusty lighthouse.

00:30:13.930 --> 00:30:15.460
<v Speaker 3>It was after dinner on a Friday.

00:30:15.910 --> 00:30:18.430
<v Speaker 3>Only a few years before the lighthouse was removed.

00:30:19.180 --> 00:30:24.910
<v Speaker 3>Darkness had fallen across the quiet seaside town in the ocean, looked like a pulsing dark mass.

00:30:25.750 --> 00:30:27.880
<v Speaker 3>There was only cloud covered light from the moon.

00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:31.690
<v Speaker 3>The huge ball by the top of the tower had stopped working long ago.

00:30:32.259 --> 00:30:38.859
<v Speaker 3>The waves crashed against the Rocky cliffs blow as she carefully ascended, firmly grasping the cold metal.

00:30:38.890 --> 00:30:44.019
<v Speaker 3>As she passed each rung, she could feel the paint chipping off onto her hands.

00:30:45.509 --> 00:30:46.650
<v Speaker 3>Jesse and Tony weighted below.

00:30:47.220 --> 00:30:50.759
<v Speaker 3>They had dared her to climb to the top and write her initials on the glass.

00:30:51.269 --> 00:30:52.890
<v Speaker 3>They hadn't thought she would actually do it.

00:30:53.250 --> 00:30:55.259
<v Speaker 3>She was a notorious seventh grade chicken.

00:30:56.130 --> 00:30:59.670
<v Speaker 3>She glanced down at them as she pulled herself over the final rung of the ladder.

00:30:59.970 --> 00:31:00.930
<v Speaker 3>They left worried.

00:31:01.380 --> 00:31:02.880
<v Speaker 3>She wiped her rest and paint.

00:31:02.881 --> 00:31:04.740
<v Speaker 3>Chip covered hands onto her sweatshirt.

00:31:04.950 --> 00:31:06.150
<v Speaker 3>She smiled to herself.

00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:07.799
<v Speaker 3>Come back down.

00:31:08.099 --> 00:31:09.420
<v Speaker 3>Jesse called that looks pretty high.

00:31:10.529 --> 00:31:14.009
<v Speaker 3>Maddie pretended not to hear her and pulled out the Sharpie they had given her.

00:31:14.430 --> 00:31:15.839
<v Speaker 3>She was sick of being a chicken.

00:31:16.109 --> 00:31:17.880
<v Speaker 3>She didn't have many close friends at school.

00:31:18.660 --> 00:31:20.099
<v Speaker 3>Jesse and Tony lived down the street from her.

00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:23.700
<v Speaker 3>She suspected they mainly hung out with her to keep their moms happy.

00:31:24.029 --> 00:31:32.339
<v Speaker 3>She could always sense them whispering about her are rolling their eyes behind her back for the first time she looked into the glass at the top of the light house.

00:31:32.849 --> 00:31:35.039
<v Speaker 3>She saw some motion reflected behind her.

00:31:35.190 --> 00:31:39.329
<v Speaker 3>She spun in the distance, something bobbed on top of the black water.

00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:41.579
<v Speaker 3>It was big and it was close.

00:31:41.970 --> 00:31:43.049
<v Speaker 3>She squinted at it.

00:31:43.170 --> 00:31:45.089
<v Speaker 3>It was the biggest boat she'd ever seen.

00:31:45.509 --> 00:31:47.460
<v Speaker 3>It must've been the size of a football field.

00:31:48.089 --> 00:31:53.940
<v Speaker 3>There wasn't much light, but it looked oddly colored like it had been set ablaze and left a charge shell.

00:31:54.420 --> 00:31:55.410
<v Speaker 3>Do you see that?

00:31:55.619 --> 00:31:58.230
<v Speaker 3>She called down to the other girls silence.

00:31:59.009 --> 00:32:01.950
<v Speaker 3>She tore her eyes away from the massive ship, but the girls were gone.

00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:06.390
<v Speaker 3>Had they gone to tell someone the boat was going to crash into the cliffs.

00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:10.920
<v Speaker 3>She quickly descended the ladder, abandoning her borrowed Sharpie on the top of the lighthouse.

00:32:11.490 --> 00:32:17.309
<v Speaker 3>There was a feeling of unease in her stomach as she inch closer to the Cliff's edge peering down at the ship.

00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:18.359
<v Speaker 3>She had a better view.

00:32:18.930 --> 00:32:21.839
<v Speaker 3>Suddenly she realized what felt odd about the approaching vessel.

00:32:22.170 --> 00:32:23.789
<v Speaker 3>There were no lights coming from the boat.

00:32:24.089 --> 00:32:24.539
<v Speaker 3>None.

00:32:25.049 --> 00:32:26.220
<v Speaker 3>She knew that was wrong.

00:32:26.670 --> 00:32:27.720
<v Speaker 3>The ships needed light.

00:32:28.289 --> 00:32:36.059
<v Speaker 3>Her first thought was that it must be a Russian spy bow and she should tell her father right away, but something about the sheer mass of the boat immobilized her.

00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.230
<v Speaker 3>It was clearly a cargo ship, but it was completely rusted.

00:32:40.230 --> 00:32:46.589
<v Speaker 3>Now it looked like he had sat at the bottom of the ocean for a century and had somehow risen looking for a new owner.

00:32:47.069 --> 00:32:48.210
<v Speaker 3>She shook that feeling.

00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:49.859
<v Speaker 3>Ships don't go looking for anything.

00:32:49.950 --> 00:32:50.819
<v Speaker 3>They aren't alive.

00:32:51.390 --> 00:32:53.700
<v Speaker 3>It glided smoothly, but without direction.

00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:56.160
<v Speaker 3>She realized it wasn't being steered.

00:32:56.700 --> 00:33:00.960
<v Speaker 3>It was floating along with the waves washing back and forth with the emotion from the sea.

00:33:01.500 --> 00:33:04.140
<v Speaker 3>She inch closer to the cliff and started to descend.

00:33:04.740 --> 00:33:07.589
<v Speaker 3>The rock was slippery from the sea spray, but she was careful.

00:33:08.099 --> 00:33:09.390
<v Speaker 3>She felt drawn to the ship.

00:33:09.420 --> 00:33:12.029
<v Speaker 3>She couldn't help it if only she could get to it.

00:33:12.030 --> 00:33:12.960
<v Speaker 3>Jump onto it.

00:33:13.140 --> 00:33:14.160
<v Speaker 3>What was she saying?

00:33:14.250 --> 00:33:15.480
<v Speaker 3>She wasn't this brave.

00:33:15.809 --> 00:33:20.009
<v Speaker 3>She'd been worried all day that her mom would find her a minus report card hidden beneath her bed.

00:33:20.579 --> 00:33:23.400
<v Speaker 3>When did she suddenly summon the courage to chase go ships?

00:33:23.940 --> 00:33:29.250
<v Speaker 3>She looked back down at the boat about to shake it all off and head home and she realized that it was glowing.

00:33:29.250 --> 00:33:33.569
<v Speaker 3>Now a vivid yellow hue rolled off the vessel like smoke onto the water.

00:33:34.619 --> 00:33:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it was a ghost ship.

00:33:36.750 --> 00:33:40.500
<v Speaker 3>Her body moved independently of her mind, forcing her towards the boat.

00:33:41.069 --> 00:33:45.670
<v Speaker 3>It was washing slowly closer to the cliffs with the tide, but there was no shore.

00:33:45.730 --> 00:33:46.750
<v Speaker 3>Surely it would crash.

00:33:47.289 --> 00:33:50.859
<v Speaker 3>The moon moved behind a dense cloud, but the boat was self illuminating.

00:33:51.220 --> 00:33:55.990
<v Speaker 3>She kept climbing down, unsure of how she'd get to it, but knowing that she needed to.

00:33:56.380 --> 00:34:00.880
<v Speaker 3>Maddie's mom called Jessie's house first that night when she didn't know where Maddie had ended up.

00:34:00.881 --> 00:34:01.750
<v Speaker 3>She called Tony.

00:34:02.740 --> 00:34:04.059
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, Mrs.

00:34:04.059 --> 00:34:04.059
<v Speaker 3>Morgan.

00:34:04.060 --> 00:34:05.470
<v Speaker 3>We left her by the lighthouse.

00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:07.599
<v Speaker 3>We wanted to go home, but she wouldn't come.

00:34:08.710 --> 00:34:09.489
<v Speaker 3>Mrs.

00:34:09.489 --> 00:34:15.159
<v Speaker 3>Morgan spent years searching for her daughter hoping to even find her body someday, anything for some closure.

00:34:16.389 --> 00:34:20.079
<v Speaker 3>Jesse and Tony felt guilty for a few years and then it faded away with their childhood.

00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:28.119
<v Speaker 3>They'd only remembered when they woke up with a start from some nightmare remembering the little girl that was never found, none of them knew.

00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:33.610
<v Speaker 3>None of them could have known that her spirit lived on among the thousands of other souls.

00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:52.780
<v Speaker 3>The flood like magnets to the ghostly ship, their bodies discarded in the cold, cruel waters beneath it, a sacrifice to the fierce ocean as the ship aimlessly haunted the sea, calling anyone and everyone to it with some ancient magic as it faded into cliffs fog and waves take by warning.

00:34:52.780 --> 00:34:59.349
<v Speaker 3>Now, if you ever think you see a rusty boat in a reflection or out of the corner of your eye, do not turn and face it.

00:34:59.980 --> 00:35:02.199
<v Speaker 3>Runaway as fast as you can and never look,

00:35:08.989 --> 00:35:09.559
<v Speaker 2>there's a ghost ship.

00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:10.730
<v Speaker 2>Did you get that story?

00:35:10.820 --> 00:35:12.530
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it had ghosts.

00:35:12.710 --> 00:35:14.510
<v Speaker 2>Ship, abandon ship.

00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:17.179
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's checking all the boxes.

00:35:17.210 --> 00:35:19.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're really pulled out all the keywords, huh?

00:35:19.099 --> 00:35:19.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

00:35:19.610 --> 00:35:19.909
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:35:20.090 --> 00:35:20.690
<v Speaker 2>What'd you think?

00:35:20.750 --> 00:35:21.139
<v Speaker 2>I liked it.

00:35:21.230 --> 00:35:21.619
<v Speaker 2>That was fun.

00:35:21.710 --> 00:35:22.010
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:22.550
<v Speaker 2>Nice.

00:35:22.670 --> 00:35:24.920
<v Speaker 2>It's short, sweet and simple story.

00:35:25.099 --> 00:35:26.090
<v Speaker 2>Like a little folklore.

00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:26.989
<v Speaker 2>Folklore.

00:35:27.050 --> 00:35:27.380
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:35:27.380 --> 00:35:28.789
<v Speaker 2>You know, cause what was her name?

00:35:29.630 --> 00:35:29.630
<v Speaker 2>Maddie.

00:35:30.230 --> 00:35:30.230
<v Speaker 2>Maddie.

00:35:31.070 --> 00:35:31.409
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:35:31.969 --> 00:35:36.139
<v Speaker 2>Maddie is going to be a local vocal folk ghost.

00:35:36.260 --> 00:35:37.130
<v Speaker 2>Local legend.

00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:38.030
<v Speaker 2>Local legend.

00:35:38.690 --> 00:35:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:35:39.730 --> 00:35:39.940
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:35:40.460 --> 00:35:40.460
<v Speaker 2>Alright.

00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:47.570
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so now we're going to advance to the second story of the podcast.

00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:47.929
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

00:35:48.230 --> 00:35:53.420
<v Speaker 2>And this is actually a story that my dad wrote for the first lunatics magazine.

00:35:53.420 --> 00:35:57.860
<v Speaker 2>The first or the second, uh, first one was water themed.

00:35:58.070 --> 00:36:01.159
<v Speaker 2>I know, but I don't, I might've been the second.

00:36:01.161 --> 00:36:03.079
<v Speaker 2>This seems like a nautical story.

00:36:03.139 --> 00:36:05.780
<v Speaker 2>It is, but I think it was actually for the Halloween edition.

00:36:05.780 --> 00:36:11.750
<v Speaker 2>So if you have that one, you could find it and it has actually some beautiful illustrations that accompany it as well.

00:36:11.780 --> 00:36:12.380
<v Speaker 2>Cool.

00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:14.570
<v Speaker 4>Uh, uh,

00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:24.199
<v Speaker 5>[inaudible] right.

00:36:27.820 --> 00:36:29.500
<v Speaker 2>There is no name for what I am.

00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:31.510
<v Speaker 2>I stop your beating heart.

00:36:31.630 --> 00:36:32.619
<v Speaker 2>I eat your flesh.

00:36:33.369 --> 00:36:36.519
<v Speaker 2>I enter your mind and take your precious little life away.

00:36:37.150 --> 00:36:38.710
<v Speaker 2>You have no tomorrows.

00:36:39.699 --> 00:36:41.780
<v Speaker 2>Some would simply call me a monster,

00:36:42.110 --> 00:36:45.679
<v Speaker 6>but that is hardly my existence, nor now yours.

00:36:46.460 --> 00:36:56.960
<v Speaker 6>The tragedy isn't a die and go to the inevitable place of rest, but instead to remain on dead forever, I will take your very soul as she took mine.

00:36:57.829 --> 00:37:09.199
<v Speaker 6>There is truth to be told and telling this tale of woe, of whore, of fate day by day, week by agonizing week, I remained a captive on board, the stinking old horror of a ship.

00:37:09.829 --> 00:37:13.219
<v Speaker 6>And now we found ourselves in the Caribbean for weeks.

00:37:14.510 --> 00:37:20.179
<v Speaker 6>The hate, the sweat, the stink and not a breath of wind to move us along.

00:37:20.869 --> 00:37:22.070
<v Speaker 6>Damn it all to hell.

00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:27.019
<v Speaker 6>I shouted to no one in particular, the boast and strikes me hard in my head.

00:37:27.500 --> 00:37:29.570
<v Speaker 6>Don't ever swear on oath on the shithole of a ship.

00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:32.030
<v Speaker 6>He says, the very devil is at work here.

00:37:32.539 --> 00:37:41.960
<v Speaker 6>There was a scuttlebutt talk and we all heard the Knights sounds, although murmuring or moaning that might as well come from the rigging of the rats, the sounds of a ghost.

00:37:42.349 --> 00:37:49.429
<v Speaker 6>This old ship that had been pressed into service on how to history, very troubled past and our future also seemed doubtful.

00:37:50.630 --> 00:37:52.369
<v Speaker 6>My oath seemed to unlock the wind.

00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:58.760
<v Speaker 6>The waves in the rain, the swells and crazed whatever was causing them was getting closer.

00:37:59.659 --> 00:38:04.789
<v Speaker 6>Truth be told, the disturbance was already here like a huge muscle rippling under the skin.

00:38:05.210 --> 00:38:06.650
<v Speaker 6>The waves continued to grow.

00:38:07.610 --> 00:38:09.050
<v Speaker 6>The ocean looked bottomless.

00:38:09.769 --> 00:38:11.000
<v Speaker 6>Fear soaked our souls.

00:38:12.230 --> 00:38:13.789
<v Speaker 6>We seem doomed to our fate.

00:38:14.300 --> 00:38:15.590
<v Speaker 6>In ill wind started to blow.

00:38:15.590 --> 00:38:19.309
<v Speaker 6>As our fears grew into terror, there would be no tomorrows.

00:38:19.969 --> 00:38:23.090
<v Speaker 6>I passed the time imagining how I'd say my last goodbyes to mother.

00:38:23.809 --> 00:38:25.550
<v Speaker 6>I was certain never to see her again.

00:38:26.449 --> 00:38:29.929
<v Speaker 6>Instead, she'll learn of this tragedy from a stranger knocking on her door.

00:38:31.190 --> 00:38:34.280
<v Speaker 6>The column of mercury in the weather glass finally bottomed out.

00:38:34.579 --> 00:38:37.579
<v Speaker 6>The ship rolled heavily as we lashed down everything on deck.

00:38:38.090 --> 00:38:40.519
<v Speaker 6>The storm rage from a Gale to a hurricane.

00:38:41.179 --> 00:38:41.840
<v Speaker 6>Waves swept the deck.

00:38:42.650 --> 00:38:45.679
<v Speaker 6>We survived on deck by lashing ourselves from the main mast.

00:38:46.219 --> 00:38:48.619
<v Speaker 6>The rain and wind blew so hard we couldn't breathe.

00:38:49.070 --> 00:38:52.250
<v Speaker 6>The terror of life not lived soon filled my immortal soul.

00:38:52.670 --> 00:39:00.199
<v Speaker 6>Everything our hope included was swept clean by the wind and the waves tied to the main mast.

00:39:00.219 --> 00:39:01.909
<v Speaker 6>Our final dreams passed by.

00:39:02.150 --> 00:39:03.710
<v Speaker 6>They were detailed and specific.

00:39:04.070 --> 00:39:08.900
<v Speaker 6>My home, my friends and images of my family came to me and my final minutes.

00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:18.920
<v Speaker 6>It seemed as if someone where something was digging deep within my head to find my very soul to look out, shouted that brag braggers dead ahead.

00:39:19.610 --> 00:39:24.650
<v Speaker 6>But what the captain saw was a huge wall of water soon to take us to the bottom of the sea.

00:39:25.190 --> 00:39:26.360
<v Speaker 6>I froze it at site.

00:39:27.019 --> 00:39:28.280
<v Speaker 6>I don't want to die.

00:39:28.849 --> 00:39:31.579
<v Speaker 6>Shattered I the water was balling around the ship.

00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:36.710
<v Speaker 6>I want to live the bows and screamed into my ears over the noises.

00:39:36.710 --> 00:39:39.840
<v Speaker 6>Storm way be domed to live.

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<v Speaker 6>You must sleep with the witch of Western mall.

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<v Speaker 6>You must pledge your very soul.

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<v Speaker 6>Get forward.

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<v Speaker 6>Touch the figurehead in pledge your immortal soul to the which my mind.

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<v Speaker 6>I continued to replay all the images of my life like dreams, but more like the witch wanting them.

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<v Speaker 6>I found myself crying forward on my hands and knees and soon my hands touch the figure head.

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<v Speaker 6>I shall not sleep with this, which I screamed, but I did remember only the icy cold invading me with her kiss.

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<v Speaker 6>It froze my lungs.

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<v Speaker 6>Her touch on me was like a thousand icicles.

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<v Speaker 6>Digging deep with him soon.

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<v Speaker 6>I knew it was my very soul she was after and that she took it away from me.

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<v Speaker 6>The ship soon sank to the bottom of the sea and I ended up here.

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<v Speaker 6>It said that you can never lose your immortal soul, but you can.

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<v Speaker 6>My soul was filled full of joy.

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<v Speaker 6>Peace.

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<v Speaker 6>Love now belongs to which of Western war.

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<v Speaker 6>What she does with it.

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<v Speaker 6>I do not know.

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<v Speaker 6>Now I am left to wander this earth without a soul.

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<v Speaker 2>I am your Wells file and terrifying nightmare come true.

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<v Speaker 2>Her Maine and now Saudi you.

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<v Speaker 7>That was

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<v Speaker 2>a hard story to read due to all the nautical terminology.

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<v Speaker 2>And you did a great job.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we were jumping around between a few different dialects.

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<v Speaker 2>I apologize that some people were from Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>That was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Boston Boston's notorious for its shipyards in parts.

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<v Speaker 2>True.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, that was cool.

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<v Speaker 2>So nothing supernatural there.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing supernatural?

00:41:25.510 --> 00:41:27.159
<v Speaker 2>Just a lot of superstition.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I would say it's supernatural, I guess at the end there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He, I think a giant wave came and everyone like quick sell your soul.

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<v Speaker 2>And he did and he did.

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<v Speaker 2>And he survives.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's now without a soul.

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<v Speaker 2>But as he knows he's a mortal.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean how he's a mortal?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>How does he know?

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<v Speaker 2>Kill himself?

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<v Speaker 2>No, because now he doesn't have joy and right.

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<v Speaker 2>All of those things.

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<v Speaker 2>She took that from him, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Survivor's guilt.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, not really, but yeah, a lot of PTSD.

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<v Speaker 2>They're sure this story works from so many angles.

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<v Speaker 2>I like this one a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well one of my favorite stories that have been read so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you just saying that?

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<v Speaker 2>Cause my dad wrote it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, first off, I love nautical themes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So does he.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a fun one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I really liked this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I love all of this a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>She loves the sea.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the sea.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>What'd you think?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We should do another nautical themed episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you guys, thank you so much for choosing to spend precious time with

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<v Speaker 3>us right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Um, and certain tiers on lock zenes magazines, stickers and kind of like very consistent posts from me on there with extra spooky stories.

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<v Speaker 3>We're worries, you know, if I have enough money gets you anything.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>You just talked to us.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll work it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of asking favors from literally everybody during this quarantine era, we are trying to think of new and exciting ways to expand this podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>And also very related.

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<v Speaker 3>And Ms.

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<v Speaker 3>Allen is going to be a surprise for you in this moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, but we've put out a call on Instagram and we have a few people who have recorded their own paranormal experience stories to send them in.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>So keep doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>You can email them to films about what it takes and they can just be recorded on your phone.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't need to be perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>The stories we definitely want like better quality but, but you're a firsthand accounts.

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<v Speaker 3>We could definitely have your phone recordings of, and I would love to start playing those on the mini episodes.

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<v Speaker 3>So regardless of topic, but yeah, just to kind of like everyone has a story, not everyone, but a lot of people have a story, so feel free again, record those.

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<v Speaker 3>The quality doesn't have to be perfect and send them to films about lunatics@gmail.com and we will play them on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>The spring issue of lunatics magazine is now available.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you know that Allen?

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it's true.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fairytale and folklore themed and despite all odds and quarantine, I think we did a pretty good job.

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<v Speaker 3>She does all the design, she puts it all together and has tons of illustrations.

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<v Speaker 3>And in this one photographs, are you saying that you and Emily put this together?

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<v Speaker 3>Despite all odds, despite all odds.

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<v Speaker 3>Incredible, incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm, I'm really, truly happy with it.

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