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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Let's bringing Al Michaels the Hall of Famer Thursday Night football on Prime. I'll look at you with your La Kings hat. All right, hockey season, that's come on.

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Speaker 3: Oh we have we have Panera now from the Rangers. So here we go. Oh we lost, we lost in the Olympics, but that's all the NHL talked. Let's go to the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you the poll question, would you rather win the Olympic gold or Stanley Cup.

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Speaker 3: I'd probably rather win the Olympic goal. But if I was Ken Morrow, I might take the four Stanley Cups that he won with the New York Islanders in the wake of his gold medal in Lake Placid. But I mean, there's nothing like an Olympic gold medal. That's that's going to be at the very top.

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Speaker 2: You know, the first professional hockey game I saw in person was Ken Morrow's goal at Madison Square Garden. M And my producer, who was from New York says, just to let you know, not all hockey games are like this, No.

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Speaker 3: They're not. You know, I was thinking last night, Dan is hockey the only sport where at the end of the game the fans are more exhausted to the players. It's I mean. And also I keep thinking Jason Gay had a fantastic column in the Wall Street General, number of them past couple of days. But the other day he described hockey as croquet for people who like running on the tops of speeding trains. It's perfect.

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Speaker 2: Gonna take a little while like visualize that, but you know, he but of all the sports, hockey always delivers more consistently than the other sports when it comes to a big game, you know, Game seven, playoff hockey. It's just there is something about it that's different than every other.

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Speaker 3: Sport, especially when it ends at like one in the morning. We've seen a few of those games. It's phenomenal. The other thing about hockey, he said, it's it's so continuous. I mean. I was texting with Doc Rivers, my old NBA partner in the Milwaukee coach yesterday and I'm going, uh, is anything better than hockey? And he goes, well, the NBA, I said, Doc, I said, the last two minutes of a hockey game can take two minutes. The last two minutes of an NBA game, you need a calendar, he said, I know, and as I talked to Adam about it all the time, they got to fix that.

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Speaker 2: Did you do play by play at all when you're watching yesterday?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Not really.

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Speaker 3: I'm just you know, I just enjoyed the game sitting back and you know, being a fan, it's the edge of the sheet that Kenny did a tremendous John Kenny Albert and Eddie oldcheck is is phenomenal. Eddie's the best. What did Eddie say yesterday? You know when Brad Marsham and you know who gets in the face of the American team right in front of the bench, and Edie was talking about how much Brad likes to talk, and he said he can talk a stamp off an envelope, which was a phenomenal line. Fifth grade.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like it was forty six years ago that you gave us miracle on ice.

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Speaker 3: No way, man, no way. But it's you know, it comes and it goes. I mean, the story is still great. People still love the story. You know, it'll resonate, you know, for the rest of my life, clearly and a lot of other people's lives. But it's it was just it could not be replicated, You know that, because that game was so much more than a hockey game. You needed to know nothing at all about hockey or care about hockey. That was all about us and our arch enemy. And we're actually playing with amateurs and they're playing with in effect, professionals in our you know, home country in a game where somebody asked me, what you know DraftKings might have had that game at back in nineteen eighty fifty to one, sixty to one, you name it. It was a massive upset, massive.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that it wasn't for the gold and the amount of pressure that was now on Team USA that you can't come this bar and you don't win the gold medal. But can you remember what that feeling was like or what these players talked about?

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Speaker 3: Well, I remember vividly in the next game against Finland Sunday morning in Lake Placid, they were down two to one end of the second period, and that's the famous Herb Brooks quote before they took the ice in the third period. If you lose this game, you'll take it to your ref and grave. And he said it again, and the boys basically said Herb Brooks never swore, but that the one time he swore and if you think about something that rang so true. If those guys had gone through the rest of their lives and had lost the game to Finland, people would go, Let me get this straight. You beat the Soviets and you lost to Finland. So you know they came back and won the game. Had you know they had to kill a penalty toward the end of the third period leading three to two and got a short handed goal. So that was gigantic.

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Speaker 2: People.

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Speaker 3: You don't forget in those years. It wasn't like it is now where you have a semi final game and then the final. They had a round robin. We played the Soviets on Friday, Finland on Sunday, and here we go forty six years later.

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Speaker 2: What would that have done to your call if they don't win the gold medal? Do you believe in debacles? I think I think that's what the Soviet announcer must have said at the enough fright.

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Speaker 3: Think about that. I don't even want to think about that. None of those guys, Uh, that would have been just horrendous, Yeah, horrendous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Did you have a backup call for do you believe in miracles?

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Speaker 3: Dan? I walked over to the arena with the great late Ken drive in the day and I said to him, I said, Kenny, we can only hope to keep an audience that the game is something like three to one, no worse than three to one middle of the second period. Otherwise, knowing Ruin arlis running ABC Sports in those days, he would have he would have brought you, you know, women's ordinals or something, or you know, ski flying or something, or she jumping. Uh, they would have cut away from from our game. So I had there was no chance the US could win that game none. Kenny and I had been to the Soviet Union. He played against them, We saw them. We weren't a match for them. So when that game, you know, is one to one, two two, uh three to Soviets, then we get a Tian Gole, then a Rouzioni scores at the ten minute mark of the Now it's like WHOA. So I'm not thinking about anything to say at the end of the game because this is so crazy, this can't be happening. But at the end of the game, Reber, the Soviets were putting intense pressure on the US, and I'm just calling the game because that game could have ended with a goal by the Soviets or a great save by Jim Cray. So I don't have in my mind. I can't think of something to say because I'm going to call that game right to the very end. And I got very lucky when the puck came out the center. I saw about five seconds to play, and now I knew the Soviets couldn't mount another attack. And the word that came into my head was miraculous. It got morphed into a question and an answer. I had no idea of the impact of what I said, or even what I said at the end of the game. I was working in such an intense state of concentration, but then here we are. It's you know, I guess I put a pretty good code.

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Speaker 2: On the game. Did you ever hear the Soviets call?

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Speaker 3: Well, that might have been the debacles call. No, I never heard that call.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't either. I'm curious though, how that Because of the importance of hockey, and you're a hockey power, and sure you know, people pay a price in some of these countries when they disappoint, and I'd be curious how the Russian announcer called that I think he had to be sunned.

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Speaker 3: First of all, they never lost, so people also forget that the Soviets down by a goal and putting the pressure on in the American and never even pulled the Goldie because they probably never practiced it. Well. They don't lose, so they could have had a six on five at the end of the game. But you know, you know what dance. So many things I'm thinking about this morning too. So when I'm a kid in the fifties and sixties in New York and I love the Rangers, and in the NHL in those years, there were like two or three or four guys born in America, And in nineteen eighty, I think I looked it up, there were like eight percent of the rosters were American born. Now it's thirty percent. So what eighty did, and I think what yesterday did is it makes kids more excited. More kids are going to play hockey now because of what took place yesterday. Wow, look at this, and they play it all around the country now. And again, when I was a kid, the number one draft choice in the NHL would always be a kid born in Moose Joe, Catchewan or in Northern Manitoba. But one of the seminal moments to me was the American captain Austin Matthews, who was drafted number one by the Toronto Maple Leafs about ten years ago, and you know, played extremely well in the Olympics. Austin Matthews grew up in Scottsdale, Arizona. It's a long way for Moosee's catchew On. So that's where the sport of hockey is coming. Is great.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to al Mochuel. Al Michael's the Hall of Famer. It's almost like what the Dream Team did to the rest of the basketball world, maybe the nineteen eighty Olympic hockey team. What that did to US hockey.

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Speaker 3: Oh for sure, no question, Because I mean even Jeremy Ronick, who went into the w All of Fame had a great NHL career, Jeremy said that he would watch that tape and that would inspire him to play hockey and be a great hockey player. And I'm sure he's not alone in that regard. So there's no question that that in nineteen eighty that made a lot of kids more interested in playing. I thought HBO did a fantastic documentary in two thousand and one that helped. Miracle came out in two thousand and four with Kurt Russell. That's certainly helpedy is all the kids have now seen that and now well you have it. By the way, Netflix has a documentary which has been out about two weeks called Miracle of the Boys of eighty, which is phenomenal. They brought all the guys back to Lake Placid, you know, four and a half decades later, and you know, you see parts of the game obviously, but you hear about those guys and their lives and what that meant to them. It's a phenomenal documentary. Netflix.

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Speaker 2: Did you save notes from the Miracle on Ice?

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Speaker 3: You know? I think I had some in a folder, probably in a storage bin or something, but you know, I didn't have that many notes. I just you know, you did it on the fly. So we were doing a lot of games, so I had to all all of those other teams to in Norway, Sweden, Czechoslovakia who we beat in that game. But I had done that, you know, and people said, well, how did you get all those names down? I said, hold on a second. I started my career in Hawaii doing a number of sports, including high school basketball where we had five samoens on a fast break and the ball was loose and it's going back. I said, Believe me, that paid off in the Adirondecks for me.

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Speaker 2: How many more hockey games did you do after the eighty Olympics?

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Speaker 3: After the eighty Olympics, I did well. I did the eighty four Olympics. We did, but our team wasn't very good. So Kenny Dryden and I did those games, but they would, you know, come to us for like fifteen minutes at a clip because we were always losing. And then in eighty eight I did it again in Calgary, but we weren't very good, so it wasn't it bore no semblance to Lake classes. And then when ABC got the NHL rights in the mid nineties, Dennis Swanson asked me to do a couple of games. So I did two Kings Calgary playoff games I think in ninety three, and then I wanted to do Wayne Gretzky before he retired, so the Kings were playing in Chicago. I always wanted to do a game in Chicago Stadium, and that's it. That's it. So I've done a handful of games. But I love hockey, and you know I'll be there. I want to see Conno McDavid in person, so that Surgeon and Edmonton at the Kings, I'll be there.

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Speaker 2: How many hockey games had you done prior to the eighty Olympics.

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Speaker 3: One nineteen seventy two. I think I told you. I've told you this story about I'm on a staff. Remember it's I'm the kid on the staff. It's Mount Rushmore, Howard Cosell, Jim McKay, Keith Jackson, Frank Gifford, Bill Fleming, I'm the kid. So one of my I wanted speed skating because Eric Hyden was going to be the big star, and he did win the five gold medals, but they gave that to Keith Jackson and they gave me hockey. And I said, you know, I'm thinking Winter Olympics. It's always good to have an indoor sport, right for starters. And I loved hockey. And I was the one guy on that staff. Nobody else had done the game. I hain't done one game, and I knew what icing and offside were, and that's how I wound up getting that assignment in Lake Placid howless is that?

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Speaker 2: Would you rather be Mike h Rouzioni or Jack Hughes. Oh, it's interesting, well this morning, probably Jack Hughes. But over the course of time, Michael Rouzioni, I heard you before. You guys have a poll going on where you'd rather be? Use me or Kurt Russell. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to take whatever votes I get, and I'm gonna apportion them to Eruzioni, Craig and Herb Brooks. There you go, there you go. If elected, I will not serve. What can I tell you?

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Speaker 2: I don't I mean, Jack Hughes probably doesn't even realize how big this is. This, you know, this is one of those viral moments. This is this is forever that look it deals his teeth being chipped, you know, drafted in the flag. Your brother's there, you know. The Gudreau moment, I mean it was it was movie like the interview with Catherine tappened. How was that?

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Speaker 3: How great is that? You know, at a time when so much is politicized, and you know, and people are going this way in that way, and with a lot of people are going I don't hear that. And what Jack Hugh said at the end of the game. I thought it was phenomenal. It could have scripted that. You know, how much it meant to him, how much it meant to being a part of this country and the affiliation that he has, you know, and what it means it was. I mean, you're you're right. You couldn't have couldn't have put that in a movie. But the question now is is Kurt Russell does he play Mike Soulivan in the next movie or what? You know? The this thing goes on and on, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it does.

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Speaker 3: Forty six years ago. Forty six b whoa, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's It's insane. Everything's forty six years ago. I mean, now it's wild.

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Speaker 5: They did.

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Speaker 3: You know, you and I we lived in our love of Johnny Bench and I announced, you know, for the Reds, and you were such a fan. So this year, this past baseball season, there was a game that had ended on catcher's interference fifty four years ago, and I'm going, wow, that's a long time ago. Maybe you know Bill Dickey played in the game or something, and I looked it up and I said, wait a minute, I did that game and Johnny was the guy in nineteen seventy one Reds at Dodgers. That's the game I called you, you know, I said, Johnny, this is insanity.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't help but think about how close Canada came to winning yesterday, and how close Toronto came to winning the World Series.

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Speaker 3: No question. Yeah, and think about you know, how about how close Seattle came to advance answering in baseball, right, and what a tough loss that was for the Mariners. And then at least, you know, the Seahawks lebel to to get their championship. But I mean, but it's it's hockey. And it's like I say, you're exhausted because you almost score, they almost score, and this goes on for for for sixty minutes of action, so and the and then the double post. And I'm thinking that, you know, uh, Kenny or Eddie could have called it. You know what, Chris Collins was called the Cody Parky field goal, except that was a double Doyt yesterday that could have won the game. That's courts, that's why we love sports.

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Speaker 2: Right there are you playing golf today?

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Speaker 3: Of courses closed? You want to talk to the grounds keeper. It's Monday. It's Monday. I'm not happy. First of all, what do I need to you know, my my list of swing thoughts? Right, So I showed him Rory showed to Rory McElroy a couple of years ago. He goes, what.

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Speaker 2: I told you. It's Johnny, Johnny, that's it four.

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Speaker 3: Y jo mil. But the problem I have is I go bag john.

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Speaker 2: L Johnny gentle.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for sharing this always, uh Danny, anytime, every forty six years, We'll do this.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Man.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned that I thought it was a joke. When I saw it, I still think it's a joke, but it's actually real. And that is Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather in September at the Spear Sphere in Las Vegas. Last time they thought, I believe, was May of twenty fifteen. I don't know who was asking for this, and I you go back to that eleven years ago. We found out after the fact that Pacquiao had an injured shoulder, and I would say that it got too far. Now I remember talking. I can't even say who I was talking to. Wow, gotta be natural limitations. Now it got it felt like that somebody wanted to call this fight off and they were told, you can't. It was too deep, you know, too deep in the game. And there's a lot of money, a lot of money at stick and obviously they you know, Pachil got in there, but he wasn't throwing any punches. And Floyd Mayweather is a boring fighter. I mean, you know, the presentation is flashy, but he's a defense first fighter. There's nothing too When you watch him, you go, oh, okay, didn't get hit again, and he didn't get hit again. You know, tactically he's brilliant but not exciting. So hey, if you sign up for it, go get him. It must be. It'll be September, so maybe it's a slow night for you and you go, well, maybe I'll just buy this fight. Let me let me see these two guys lean on each other. But I don't know if this has to do you know, boxers never retire. Sugar Ray Leonard told me this when I went to his first retirement in Baltimore, and he talked about fighters never retire. The phone stops ringing, and that's it. Like you could get some of these guys to come out of retirement and be like, you know, hey, Tommy Hearns, Marvelous, Marvin Hag come on, Roy Jones, come on, who wants to fight? Yeah, I'll do it. Mike Tyson, he'll fight again. Let Tyson fight the winner of this. But you know, maybe you know, financial issues could be affecting one or both of these fighters, and that's why you're doing I don't I don't know why you watch this unless the undercart is really good. Maybe the novelty of being in that building having a boxing match in the sphere, but it's real, it's real. Does Conor McGregor get the winner of this fight. I mean, now, if Conor McGregor got to do MMA against Floyd, now that would be fun. That would have been interesting. But it was like, and then if one of the brothers would what are their names? The Paul brothers? Do they get to fight some? I mean, is this where boxing is?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 2: How did we get here?

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Speaker 4: I guess UFC, Yeah, PAULI Mayweather pack you out twenty fifteen. They estimate that it was the biggest single fight revenue ever, four hundred and ten million in revenue, seventy two million in ticket sales at the gate on the property.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I always thought that Floyd was a brilliant businessman. But you start to read articles of you know, he's got things in foreclosure and I can't imagine that you would lose one hundred Well but they Mike Tyson did. But then you know we had people stealing right in front of him. You know, that was the difference here. But with Floyd. I thought Floyd was like a Darrell Reebs kind of businessman. So that's if he's coming back because he needs money, that is sad, Yes, Todd how much money?

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Speaker 5: And I don't understand the financial part of like how they get millions of dollars to have these fights that supposedly are kind of ridiculous and it's like an exhibition.

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Speaker 9: Nobody wants to see.

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Speaker 5: How much of that money is based on who goes to the fight, and as far as people that are buying like pay perview, Like what if so many people decided I'm not going to the fight, I'm not going to watch them pay perview, They're still going to get.

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Speaker 9: Millions of dollars. There's still enough money out there to pay these guys.

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Speaker 2: PAULI just gave you the numbers. It's it's a rep share. I mean they share. I don't know how they divvy it up. I'm sure Floyd got more money than Pachio, but you know, you might get forty percent of the gate. Pacio gets, you know, twenty five percent of the gate. But it's foreignhundred million dollars.

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Speaker 9: So I guess how do they come up with that number?

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Speaker 5: Not knowing just yet who's buying the tickets and who's doing the pay per view.

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Speaker 9: And maybe I'm being ignorant, but I don't know how they can.

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Speaker 2: Guarantee now this is the last fight.

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Speaker 5: Right, But I'm saying for this fight coming up, if he was saying that, maybe rather that has all these financial problems.

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Speaker 9: What if people didn't go to the fighter?

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Speaker 5: Didn't you know as far as pay per view, where's or where are all these millions of dollars coming from to pay these guys.

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Speaker 9: If people decide not to buy the fight or go watch it.

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Speaker 2: Well you only get paid based off who shows up or who watches.

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Speaker 5: But they're expecting to get several millions of dollars to do this the fighters.

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Speaker 2: Why is this complicated?

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Speaker 9: It's a little complicated to me to say.

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Speaker 2: In demand, you either show up or you don't, and if you don't show up, then they don't get as many millions as they would have if you did show up.

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Speaker 5: Okay, which could end up being nowhere near the amount of money that Mayweather needs to get out of his financial s.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what his financial situation is. I'm saying there are articles talking about that, but it's if you show up, then you get paid. If you buy pay per view, then you get paid. If you don't buy pay per view, then you get less of the gate. Oh, it is his supply and demand, and if there's not a demand. Then maybe these guys get twenty million, twenty five million, fifteen million, but the first one made four hundred million. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Point, I'm reading about Floyd and his next fight might be against the irs. He's had three things in his past settled.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he had all those cars. Wow, that's in September. You've been warned.

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Speaker 2: Live combine getting underway. We'll talk about that. In fact, let me start there with the combine. You got players who are going to be arriving today or yesterday, coaches and GMS are still talking. The media gets an opportunity. This is this is sort of the woodstock of you know, off season where you get local reporters. Everybody gets a chance, and it's just you know, a massive media there to be able to ask coaches in GMS questions and then of course the players are going to be there at the combine. And you know, when you look at college football, it's amazing. I looked at Mel Kuiper's latest mock draft, and you go Man, Ohio State had more talent than anybody else in the country, at least according to Mel's draft. So he's got Caleb Downs, a safety, going number two to the Jets. I think he's got five Ohio State players who could go in the top fifteen. Carnell Tait is a wide receipt, he could be going. Sonny Styles, a linebacker, he could be going. They got an offensive lineman who could be going first round. And what did Ohio State have to show for this? I'm looking at the schools that are most represented at combine, Texas A and m thirteen players, Alabama twelve, Ohio State eleven, LSU eleven, Georgia ten, Oklahoma ten, Miami ten, Clemson nine, Indiana nine. And that's the unique part of this is you can have individual talent, but a team will carry you through the playoffs. And you saw that with the Indiana Hoosiers winning the national title. Because blue chip depth at premium positions great, a few programs can match the ceiling. But Ohio State didn't win the Big Ten, got man handled by Miami in the playoffs. But they're still sending eleven players to the Combine. And you're probably going to have five of those players drafted in the first round. See let's pull question for the first hour of the program. We got some options here for you.

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Speaker 6: I think maybe we start with the combine though, I'm going to talk about is arm length the new hand size?

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Speaker 2: Is arm length the new hand size. I was hoping to get five minutes into today's show. Oh, I couldn't do it. Four minutes and twenty two seconds into the show and we've brought up arm length. You know, I love hand size, you know I do.

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Speaker 6: I think this is actually a movement by the small hands community to take the focus off of them. Marvin, do you care to comment?

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Speaker 8: How would you guys even figure that?

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Speaker 6: I think the small hands lobbyists are working. You know, it's actually more about arm length than it is hand size, just saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why is it we don't make a big deal about hand size for wide receivers. It's easy to throw a football, it's hard to catch football are easier to throw a football. But you know, the patron saint of small hands, Kenny Pickett. We got to get an autograph jersey of Kenny Pickett. Yeah, and you know you're in good hands with Kenny Pickett. How did they? How did Allstate not do something with Kenny Pickett like little good hands? Yes, Todd, I don't.

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Speaker 5: Think we make a big deal about the size of the hands of receivers because that's sticky stuff that got.

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Speaker 9: In the gloves. Works in all sizes.

00:28:26
Speaker 8: Fair.

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Speaker 9: Are you worried about the.

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Speaker 3: Size of your head?

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Speaker 2: All right? That's fair? Yes, Paul.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Dan, we've been tracking this year at the Dan Patrick Show and peak hand size of development and talk was twenty twenty two around Kenny Pickett out of Pittsburgh. Last year, the spike was Will Campbell, the former LSU offensive lineman. I think he was taken fourth overall, but at the combine his arms measured sit down if you're ready to hear this thirty two and five eighth inches.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It was shocking and it became one of the bigger topics early in the draft.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, So my arms are longer than his?

00:28:57
Speaker 4: Not wing spin each arm?

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know how long your arms are? Yeah?

00:29:02
Speaker 8: You do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you keep that in your head at all times.

00:29:05
Speaker 2: Well, no, you've been measured for a shirt, a dress shirt, or you know, a sport code.

00:29:11
Speaker 8: I have it.

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Speaker 6: Well, I don't know that I have not since my brother's wedding. I think, Yeah, well, shirt length, Yeah yeah, I've been measured for that. Yeah yeah, we're doing the longest arms.

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Speaker 4: We are doing that tomorrow. We're doing arm length on the show. Okay, but Will Campbell was a big topic last year. I could find you a dozen articles talked about his arm length and whether it's a negative going into the league.

00:29:37
Speaker 8: Yes, Marvin, please, please, somebody have shorter arms than me.

00:29:40
Speaker 2: Please.

00:29:41
Speaker 8: I don't ask for much in this life.

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Speaker 2: Now, all of a sudden, I'm looking around here. I don't know, Well, you could have long arms and small hands. Marvin.

00:29:50
Speaker 8: Oh great, thanks, I'm still mad at Canny Picky.

00:29:53
Speaker 2: Oh god, what a great day that was.

00:29:56
Speaker 6: Yeah, top three greatest days of my life.

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Speaker 2: I know you got married, you had your kid, and you found out your hands are bigger than Marvin's.

00:30:03
Speaker 6: Essentially that I don't have the smallest hands here.

00:30:07
Speaker 2: It was awesome. And the fact that nobody knew what the results were. We all got our hands measured by Ray, one of the back room guys, and kept it secret. So as we're unveiling this and the smallest hands and Seaton's ready to go, it's obviously me I know that I have tiny hands. I'm aware. And then all of a sudden, Marvin as the smallest hands. Yes, mart I knew it.

00:30:32
Speaker 8: Was bad when we measured the hands back with Ray R. Ray just kind of looked at me. Oh, not as big as I thought.

00:30:41
Speaker 2: So arm length is going to be a big deal and we'll be all over that, you know, once the results come rolling in here, I'm still I'm focusing on hand size here. Of course that is so two yeah, I know, Paulie said, you're you know, you got to get up, you know, caught up with you're in the dark ages here. Don't care about the hand size. And there here's another thing. Why don't we measure fingers not your hand size? Because if I'm a quarterback, I got to put my fingers around a football. Because you can have a big palm.

00:31:17
Speaker 6: What do you have against palms? What do you have against palms?

00:31:20
Speaker 2: Hey? When I was in Panama, When I was in Panama, I palm Sunday went got my you know, I went to Salo and I got my ashes down there in Palo Yeah, I walked into a church there got.

00:31:33
Speaker 6: The ashes on Sundays or Wednesday there.

00:31:36
Speaker 2: I think it was a Wednesday. Wednesday for the ashes. Yeah, but maybe Palm Sunday is involved in that, right, it's in the process. Okay, that's coming up a week before Easter. Okay, so it's a bad reference there, but I did get the ashes. Unless you time traveled, I know, Palm Sunday is going to be a big day. Are you going to aim off of pumps? No? No, no, only I was just down there then pan him off for stem cell and my wife goes, hey, ash Wednesday, and I go all right, So we walked in, walked into a church, boom, got ashes on our forehead, and then went to dinner. Yes, Paul, back.

00:32:18
Speaker 4: To arm length. Ground zero for arm length this year at the combine is Miami defensive end Ruben Bain. He's six two two seventy seven and they're still gonna We don't have official arm length on him yet or hand size, but he's a big topic.

00:32:34
Speaker 2: Yeah. Did he talk about this, Marvin? Okay, go ahead.

00:32:41
Speaker 10: None of the teams seem to be too consigned with it. As long as I just talk to talk and walk the walk, play the technique. Nobody really asked me about it, so I really don't give the kind of time a day for it. That's just all stuff I feel like you said on social media. But none of the teams had a sound so I'm not to designed.

00:32:58
Speaker 2: Okay, So he doesn't have long arms? Is that what he's saying? This is this is already a concern.

00:33:05
Speaker 4: Some scouts are saying they might be under thirty three inches and that is a red flag for a defensive end who you need to get people off you.

00:33:13
Speaker 2: But I'd rather have my offensive lineman have long arms.

00:33:17
Speaker 9: Right.

00:33:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, he sounded very defensive in that.

00:33:20
Speaker 2: Oh oh he is. He's defensive, but.

00:33:24
Speaker 4: He was good enough to play well for Miami for yes.

00:33:26
Speaker 2: Yes, well they got to talk about something here, you know. But yeah, the arm length, that's a big deal, yes, Todd.

00:33:34
Speaker 9: But maybe you can sneak holding with shorter arm length.

00:33:36
Speaker 5: It's tougher to see the holding if you've got these big long arms like an octopus.

00:33:39
Speaker 9: It's very easy to see if you're holding somebody.

00:33:42
Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Ton, welcome, uh Seaton. What's pull question for the first hour. Well, we're going to have two up there now. What are you most looking forward to from this year's NFL combine? Hand size or arm length? And we're also putting up there. Do you know the length of your arms? Okay, do you guys have any idea?

00:34:00
Speaker 4: My dress shirt is thirty two and a half inches the arm month.

00:34:04
Speaker 2: Your arms are as long as the Patriots off inch of line.

00:34:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, those are the shirts I bought. When I purchased shirts thirty two and a half inches, I like to pop my cuffs.

00:34:17
Speaker 2: Yes see.

00:34:17
Speaker 6: I don't know what this says about me, but my shirt size has always come with an SM or an L. I've never seen numbers attached to it.

00:34:28
Speaker 2: You've never gone to a tailor, you know. I did.

00:34:33
Speaker 6: When my brother got married, I did well. I guess when I got married I did too. But I don't remember any of that. Uh No, I haven't, not in eighteen years or whatever. Okay, yeah, it's been a long time. There's no judging here. Yeah, it's usually L or XL AM, I an M. These days, it's one of those letter combinations.

00:34:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, when you buy a dress shirt, you do neck and then arm length, so it would be like seven teen inches, thirty two thirty three. Yeah, thirty two thirty three is short, thirty four to thirty five is medium, thirty six thirty seven is long with shirt length.

00:35:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, back to you. Yeah, all right, Marvin, do you know your arm length?

00:35:15
Speaker 8: L XL.

00:35:16
Speaker 2: I'm in the same boat as Fritzy, same with you.

00:35:19
Speaker 5: Yeah. I go to the end of the alphabet and see how many ex'es are involved, and let's uh, don't have numbers on that.

00:35:24
Speaker 3: I know.

00:35:24
Speaker 9: My neck size, unfortunately, has grown.

00:35:26
Speaker 5: I used to have like a sixteen and three quarter or seventeen and a half, and it's definitely somewhere in the nineteen ballparkouts it was. It's impossible to close any of my if I gotta wear a dress shirt, now we have to go buy a new shirt.

00:35:37
Speaker 2: What's bigger your neck or your arms?

00:35:41
Speaker 9: That's a that's a good question, you know arms. I'm proud of the neck thing and the double chin thing.

00:35:45
Speaker 5: That's just a problem when you can't close that top button when you want to put in time, it.

00:35:49
Speaker 2: Is pretty deflating. Where you gotta put your shirt on.

00:35:51
Speaker 6: You're getting all dressed up and you're like, damn man, I'm gonna look good tonight.

00:35:53
Speaker 9: And then you're like, and it come close to closing.

00:35:56
Speaker 6: You do the you put your tie on and then unbutton the top button.

00:36:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, get a little breathing.

00:36:03
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:36:03
Speaker 2: My wife was bringing this up because my daughter's getting married later in the summer, and she said, are you going to get a tuxedo? I said, I got one. I got one for my son's wedding. She goes, do you think it still fits? I was like, wait, where did that come from? What am I taking shots for? It was a shot, It was a shot. So now I'm in my head, you know, Now I got to try on the tuxedo, see if it works. You see if it fits?

00:36:32
Speaker 6: Are you intermittent fasting until I want to jump on something, just saying I know