Nolan Arenado traded to D’backs, Kyle Tucker's $50mil AAV Mets offer, Yankees-Bellinger talks continue
BREAKING NEWS at the top of the show: Nolan Arenado has been traded to the Diamondbacks. Let’s break down the details of the deal. Did Chaim Bloom make the right move?
(13:42) According to Fansided and FT Insider Robert Murray, the Mets have a big AAV offer on the table for Kyle Tucker.
(24:16) Jon Heyman has reported that the Yankees and Cody Bellinger's camp are still in contract talks. What could the deal look like?
(27:48) The Giants are aggressively pursuing a second baseman, according to Jeff Passan. An addition like Brendan Donovan or Nico Hoerner could make their infield among the best in the league.
(31:11) The Marlins have posted an opening for a Minor League manager. Is AJ a legitimate candidate?
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00:00:03 Speaker 1: Things that make me sad, news breaking two minutes after a show, Things that make prats danced, which is why some people watch the show. I kid you not, news breaking minutes before a show. 00:00:17 Speaker 2: Finally, finally, yeah, finally, we have a Nolan Arnaudo trade, which was supposed to happen last year. 00:00:25 Speaker 1: Let's hit it. Let's just let's hit it as soon as we can so we can just get right into it. Chuck it out, he go. 00:00:34 Speaker 2: If you're a Cardinal fan Nolan Arnaudo, I mean, Listen's been a garula nice player for a long time. People are starting to wonder whether he's on the decline. But the Arizona Diamondbacks don't believe. So now, they didn't give up a ton Jack Martinez, right handed pitcher, but I think the Cardinals are eating thirty thirty one a forty two million. Oh so they two years they just kind of wanted him out and the area is so the Cardinals saves some money. Jack Martinez gets to go to the Cardinals and there you have it. So thirty one of the forty two Okay, But. 00:01:10 Speaker 1: For Arizona, I mean in baseball money, that ain't a lot five mil this year and six mil next year for a. 00:01:18 Speaker 2: Guy that's still productive. Defensively, he's still good, and offensively he's still productive bust, but he's not. Listen, he's not the Nolan Arnado that we came to expect for about ten years. But he's still a good player. 00:01:32 Speaker 1: He can still pick it at third. He's not he's not as good as he was no, but he's still what an above average defender and close to league average bat. So that's what that gets paid on the marketplace. Diamondbacks. We're in the running, and we don't know how much, but in the running at least to some extent for Alex Bregman, and we quickly see this pivot crats to go get themselves. A third baseman who is super well respected, wants to play every day gamer, will set up great tone and join a very talented infield. One of the best infields in baseball in my mind. Perdomo was a top five MVP finisher last year and Cautel Marte is arguably his best second basement in baseball. 00:02:12 Speaker 3: I mean, they're tremendous up the middle. Let's make sure everybody knows that Nolan Ernado's going to give the Diamondbacks. Everything that he has, how much is it? 00:02:24 Speaker 2: You never know? 00:02:25 Speaker 3: Look what George Springer did this year, everyone was like decline. He signed a contract with the Blue Jays, he goes into a different lineup. Who was protecting him in the Cardinals lineup? Was he expected to be the guy in the Cardinals lineup? Yes? 00:02:41 Speaker 2: I get it. 00:02:42 Speaker 3: Contraras was there, but like he has a little bit more around him. Perdomo put up the year that he had. He I mean offensively, he took giant leaps last year. Kutel Marte is an MVP candidate. I think Corbyn Carrol if he takes away like a month and a half of the last two seasons, he's an MVP candidate. So now, all of a sudden, if you have Nolan Ernado hitting fifth or sixth, there's a lot less expected of him. I guess this is the player side of me thinks, why not? Why couldn't he be you know, he was a little bit above average offensively, Why couldn't he be you know, a one ten ops plus one fifteen ops plus with the same defense, Because I don't think his defense is going to decline like crazy here, and he knows the national League West. 00:03:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's the thing, he hasn't He wasn't league average last year he was eighty seven ope les plus, So it's not about who was hitting behind him. The problem is when the Cardinals got Nolan Arnado years ago, he was a twenty twenty one. They got him after the COVID year. He was good. He was really good. He was a one to fifty one that year or one nineteen twenty one, twenty twenty two he was a one to fifty one ops. It was one o eight. Then twenty four he was one h two. So the numbers have kind of slowly gone down a little bit. And then last year he was in eighty seven and he only had twelve homers. The problem with him and the Cardinals people say it is he's lost his power, Like he'll hit you some singles, but he has no power, so you throw him into this Diamondbacks line up. He doesn't strike out a lot, which is nice for the Diamondbacks. He does take his walks, he puts the ball in play. He's not a high he's not a ton of an OHIGOOBP guy. His defense will be solid and if you put him in the six, five, six, seven range in that lineup. I think he'll be fine. I think especially going to Arizona from Saint Louis, which listen, in Arizona is a better place to hit than Saint Louis. Power might go up a little bit. He gets some games in Colorado, he gets some I think this is a nice move for the Diamondbacks. Listen, they were allegedly rumored to be in on Bregman. They clearly weren't going to the numbers that Pregnant got. So this is not a bad fallback option for the Diambacks. It's only two years. It's only two years. 00:04:57 Speaker 1: I agree. I think that's fine. I feel like we actually call this one out. We were like, yeah, if you got him for I don't know, three, four or five million bucks, yeah great. I mean this is still a productive big league player. He's not a star anymore, but this is a productive big league player with a lot of dirt and his spikes, who knows how to win some ball games. We got a super chat here. Tim is cooking for us in Saint Louis Is from Brandon, I'm ready for JJ Weatherhold at third sucks. We're gonna lose s BRender Donovan two, but opens up second full time for Nolan Gorman. Where's Donovan going super Chat, We don't know yet. Actually, perhaps the shirt I'm wearing today Giants perhaps splash territory Giants respond well. 00:05:41 Speaker 2: The question for me is Donovan was supposed to be traded a long time ago. As you know, we all thought Donov would be traded for Arnatto. 00:05:49 Speaker 1: Can tell Marte was supposed to tread. 00:05:51 Speaker 2: Too, but then they pivot into are keeping him. We could be pretty good. 00:05:53 Speaker 1: Teams are stingy with their prospects. 00:05:56 Speaker 2: Teams are stingy with stars too. 00:05:58 Speaker 1: I think Donovan's going to get traded because I think they are going to be enough teams that feel like they didn't do enough. So I mean, I think the Red Sox could be in play for him. I think that we've already heard about the Royals, the Giants. There's another team that Mariners. Yes, so there's a market there. 00:06:16 Speaker 2: He's good for what hein. Bloom is good at what. I'll give him Bloom credit for this. I mean, remember he had to trade Looky Betts. Yeah right, I mean he and he didn't although the return wasn't that great for what he got from Loky Betts, but he's very able to find and places to send guys. At other times they don't think they're tradable. Like Rookie Betts. He made that he got traded. He has now had to trade Arnado right on the job. Right he traded Sunny Gray, he traded mostly Contreras. These are all guys that had no trade clauses, and he convinced them all like, hey, guys, we're not going to be very good. You guys should all get traded. Gray and controus both went to the same place in Boston. Arnatto goes to the Diamondbacks. It's it's fascinating. Hei Bloom is Heine bloom Is. I love Heine Bloom. We had him on at the winter meetings. He's awesome. I think he's great at these making these moves. 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Yes, they had their own analytics system, but they had you know, it was very like, it was very private to the coaches in front office, and the players are like, I want it. I wanted I want it. Other teams are getting this, and so he started kind of developing that infrastructure change. That's all we've heard about the Cardinals for twenty years. They've kind of been like, Hey, we're successful, why do we need more of this? Why do we need more of that? And then all of a sudden they woke up and they were eight years behind, you know, knowing some people from behind the scenes and the Cardinals they were years behind on some of that stuff because they had certain things established in the big leagues. The minor leagues are just like, Okay, we'll just keep status quo, status quo. So he has to change that infrastructure and what people need to understand too. He's been at it for a year talking to him outside of the show, because I wasn't on the day that he was on. There's been a lot of change that's already like, hey, you know what, we can keep some of these coaches, but we need to add more in this area. We've seen success added in this area. And so for me, if I'm a Cardinal fan, I say, heck yeah, time Bloom, Heck yeah, we got all this money off of our roster. It's almost like getting free agents, Like they freed up this money off the roster. And I don't think the Cardinals are going to spend it, but I think hein Bloom. His one chance of setting an organization back on the right track was with the Red Sox, and you look where they're at now. 00:10:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're laking less money this year to the Cardinals. They're part of that. 00:10:27 Speaker 2: The one thing about the Cardinals is they've always drawn really well at Bush Stadium, not anymore, not in this past year they didn't. And now this year they're signaling again they're not going to be any good. Cardinal fans will come out if you're decent, if heck, if you're five hundred Cardinal fans That's one of the craziest plays I ever played. You can be ozer for fifty and they'll give you a standing ovation. And because they're like, oh, we'll get it hit eventually, most teams are booing the crap out of you there. They don't, right, but they don't come out if you're not saying you're going to be competitive. And for the last about twenty years, the Cardinals have signal they're going to be really competitive. And this is the first year where they really kind of just said, you know what, let's give him Bloom a chance to cook. We're going to trade most of our guys and we're going to start over and let him build this roster the way he wants to build it. And it sucks if you're a Cardinals fan, but I think you guys have one of the right guys in the right place in charge to help this go faster than some other teams can do it. 00:11:21 Speaker 1: Hey, they couldn't trade an olanar and Otto last year. Like you mentioned, it took him fifteen months to pull this off. Remember they had a deal to Houston and they ended up Houston pivoting quickly to Christian Walker. They couldn't find a spot for an Olan and he Zach paratees, Yeah, they added him too, that's true. And then apparently this time around, according to Katie Wu, who writes for The Athletic and is a host now on Dodgers' territory, but it is very connected with the Cardinals, she said that the talks this time around were like, Hey, we need more flexibility on your no trade list, and in exchange, we will be more flexible about how much money in the contract we eat so that we can make sure a deal gets done. They were not going to go into another season with Nolan there. It's not like he was bad for the club. They just want to move on. They want to get the youth movement going, they want to save money. They're not a playoff team this year, and so credit to both sides for agreeing to make sense, get this done, send him to a spot that he's probably pretty happy with. As we talked about many times in the show, most guys are a West Coast guy, go to Arizona. He's a West Coast guy. 00:12:24 Speaker 2: Arizon. Other thing is when you can live and play in the same thing for spring training and the regular season. And let's not forget I don't know where Nolan lives in the offseason, if he still lives in California, But if you can move, he can buy a place in Arizona and live there all year round and never have to move, which is one of the huge, huge perks of the Diamondbacks to people. And excuse me, it is one of the wonders why Tampa used to do this. Tampa doesn't do it anymore. But Tampa Bay used to have their spring training right next to the TRUP. Now that's in Port Charlotte, obviously, but if you can do that, it is a huge perk, especially if you want to try and sign free agent guys. The Rays don't do that obviously the same level of the Diamondbacks do. 00:13:08 Speaker 1: But it helps. 00:13:15 Speaker 2: Tell my wife is a player. Hey, honey, guess what, you don't have to move for spring training. You don't have to move for the season. You just have to find one place for the whole year or for multiple years, and you can buy that house and you save the spring training move you spring, save the spring training money, You save the headache that usually falls on not the player but the significant other of the player, and the kids don't have to move their stuff they can go to school year round in one place. It's a huge thing. 00:13:41 Speaker 1: Man INSIDEED insider and FT insider Robert Murray reporting the Mets have offered fifty million dollars per season to Kyle Tucker on a short term contract. We don't know the years, but fifty million dollars, didn't We talk to Ken earlier and he was waiting to Will Salmon on maybe three years. So if we want to guess maybe three years one fifty. 00:14:10 Speaker 2: Is there opt outs? 00:14:12 Speaker 1: There's definitely opt outs. 00:14:13 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, why would guy sign that entered the wuld you just take one year fifty, have a good year, and then then redo it like everyone else has done. 00:14:20 Speaker 1: What if the Blue Jays are offering three hundred? Do you want three years? 00:14:24 Speaker 2: Again? 00:14:25 Speaker 1: Trust years three hundred? 00:14:26 Speaker 2: How much do you trust yourself? 00:14:28 Speaker 1: What would you do yourself? What would you do? Okay? 00:14:31 Speaker 2: If I had six years three hundred on the table and three years one. 00:14:34 Speaker 1: Fifty, well I'll say like eight years three hundred because otherwise the AAV doesn't match up. Yeah, but but eight years three hundred or three years one fifty. 00:14:46 Speaker 3: I take the eight years, crats, it's going to be more like ten years three hundred. I would take the ten years three hundred. Like guy's been hurting, the guy's missed, he played hurt. He's like, well that didn't work out. I was having an awesome year and then I had to play through the injury. And the year before he was having MVP start to the year and then he got hurt. I'm not saying don't bet on yourself. It's not at all saying don't you believe in yourself. But anybody that says I'll just go one year deals if you get fifty million a year for the next ten years, absolutely, but three hundred million, three hundred million for ten years, yes. 00:15:26 Speaker 2: Please agreed. Agreed. By the way, can we just spreading rumors? A little thing in a jigger front end a fee that you guys call it front end? Is that chunky peanut butter? Because nobody really likes chunky peanut butter. 00:15:36 Speaker 1: They if you ever request smooth, then you can make that request. 00:15:40 Speaker 2: It likes chunky. Nobody like because they get the little chunks get stuck in your teeth and stuff like chunky peanut butter is not. Where's that guy? I like smooth? I agree, like Delicio smooth. 00:15:50 Speaker 3: Delicious. Not that I picked chunky, but chunky is still delicious everybody. 00:15:55 Speaker 2: But it gets stuck in your teeth and then you got to get a tooth pick. It's just it's not. It's not where's that it's good, It's not where it's at. 00:16:02 Speaker 1: Is the market telling us that they feel as if Kyle Tucker still has to prove something. 00:16:08 Speaker 2: Yes, because the last few years he's been hurt and he had a no. It is telling us that it is if he hasn't gotten the ten year, four hundred million dollars whatever it is that they were supposed to talk about that Everyone said he thought he would get going into the offseason, and if he has to settle for a short term deal. It told Pete Alonzo wasn't there. It told Alex pregman O one there, told Matt Chavana won there, told Blake Snell it wasn't there. Like all these guys. It's told that the marketsaw there. Like Kratz talked about earlier with Ken Rosenthal, you gotta take what you get. And if you can get three one fifty with opt out after year one, a year two, and you can go two years and get one hundred and then be thirty one years old and maybe get another four or five year deal. If there's nothing else out there, you grab that and you go go to Fort Saint Lucy and smile. 00:16:56 Speaker 1: I still think the blue Jays have a longer term offer going his way. I don't think the Blue Jays are operating like the Mets and the Dodgers where they do the short term AAV and the contract looks like an opt out situation. So I know, you guys say he was hurt right two years ago, I get it. Seventy eight games, that's about half of the season. Although using metrics that front office is like, I know you guys were playing the war game all day yesterday. He was almost a five win player in the season that he was hurt. Ten win players insane, right, And that was the season that he was hurt. In the seasons before that, he was pretty solid games played and a five plus win player one fifty seven fifty one. This past season, I know he dealt with what was it, the heel calf. One hundred and thirty six games played, five hundred and ninety seven played appearances, two sixty six average, three seventy seven on base four sixty four slugging eight forty one ops one forty three ops plus, don't discount that the Cubs ball park played very pitcher friendly this past season. It's not like looked and said, oh man, this guy's got to prove it. I mean, Alex Reigman didn't have to prove it. Kyle market tells much better season than him, and he's younger than him. So why does Kyle Tucker have to prove himself after an age twenty eight season like that? 00:18:13 Speaker 2: Because the market tells him he does? Okay, that's why. There's no other reason he shouldn't have to. But if the market dictates, the market dictates what you were. 00:18:22 Speaker 1: So you have a one year contract to prove it, and you're going to go to a team that is in a what at least top ten pitchers ballpark and just lost quite a bit of AMMO. I'm not saying they're bad. Obviously the Mets should be a contender, but they certainly have lost quite a few pieces. Yeah, you've got so, you've got Lindor. But is that the selection that you make in a high. 00:18:47 Speaker 2: Pressure that your best opportunity? 00:18:49 Speaker 1: Yes, I don't think that's his best opport I think Rogers something out there similar and the blue Jays. Here's the thing, And I've said this multiple times and I continue to believe this because Kyle Tucker not want to go to Toronto. I have it in my head. They definitely have the best offer, and it's a longer term offer. I don't know how long, but there's definitely something there. I don't think the blue Jays fuck around. Do you tell me I'm wrong? I don't. 00:19:16 Speaker 2: I don't think here. 00:19:17 Speaker 1: I don't think it's like, oh, well, the blue Jays only threw him three Okay, If. 00:19:21 Speaker 2: It's not the blue Jays or the Mets and who else, well that he's don't seem interested. 00:19:24 Speaker 1: Those three teams are clearly there's a third involved, the Mets, the Dodgers, and the blue Jays. 00:19:31 Speaker 2: The Dodgers don't have a history of throwing long term contracts out there, so I don't think that he's the. 00:19:34 Speaker 1: Dodgers doing the same thing as Mets. They're saying, hey, if you want to come here, we'll pay you a lot for a season, and then you hit free agency again, we'll give you one, two or three years. That's probably what they're saying. The Mets are going hey, I mean, here's my guess. Ready, Dodgers are throwing two or three years at I don't know, forty ish a year. Mets are like, cool, we love the Dodgers. We want to do what they're doing. We'll do three years fifty MILLI year. And then I think he's had an offer, or at least a conversation about an offer from the Blue Jays for a while now about a longer term contract. Kratz, what do you think? 00:20:05 Speaker 3: I think if it is in this range, if it's fifty million dollars for one not one year, but if it's fifty million for three years, I don't see how the Mets. I don't see how the Mets take this down, because my assumption would be the Dodgers would say, heyo, you're moving over to left field. We were willing to put twenty million into Michael Conforto for a single season. We'll definitely do a single season type of contract and put you in right field. I think it's so to me if this is where he's at and he doesn't want to take say seven years, two hundred and twenty from the Blue Jays, just speculating, just questioning, then I mean, I think it's I think the Dodgers would take this down. I think the Dodgers would take it down over the Mets, don't. I don't think. I don't think that number could get too high for the met for the Dodgers in a one year thing. And I think that's where he would where he would My guess is that's where he would want to go over. 00:21:11 Speaker 2: The Mets. 00:21:14 Speaker 1: Front offices do a great job of analyzing and really picking apart players. 00:21:18 Speaker 2: Right. 00:21:19 Speaker 1: Oh, this part's great, but we hate this part of him. I mean that's common, that's what they do, especially nowadays in free agency with almost everyone. There are two players in the sport that have about an even strikeout to walk ratio over the last two years with the five hundred plus slug percentage. It's Kyle Tucker and Wan Sota. Wan Soto received a lot of love last offseason. What am I missing here? You think it's just injury related. Teams are not trusting the durability suddenly over the past couple of years. It's not like he didn't play last year. I mean almost six hundred played appearances. 00:21:54 Speaker 3: I don't know collusion. 00:21:56 Speaker 2: I don't know why he's not getting the money. 00:21:59 Speaker 1: Just doesn't have the suitors right now. 00:22:01 Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, sometimes it comes down and who's after you? 00:22:03 Speaker 1: I don't know. 00:22:04 Speaker 2: I wish I knew the answer that's got because I want every player to get every dollar they can. 00:22:09 Speaker 1: This is a confusing one for me. 00:22:16 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't Okay, I don't see it. 00:22:19 Speaker 3: I don't You can you can make any any reason to say yes, he's not worth it. You made reasons. AJ made some very valid points of why Jan Soto shouldn't get the money that he got. It takes one owner to say yes, I'll go ahead. You know, before Soto signed, we were like, come on, over seven hundred million. That's a crazy number, Like, how can you lock up one guy for over seven hundred minute? How can you give Kyle Tucker four hundred million dollars? Like to me, I I truly thought he was a ten year, three hundred and fifty three hundred and forty three hundred and fifty million dollar type of player. That's that's what I thought. That's what I thought. The consistency was plays an all around game. People say he's hurt, I'd be like, all right, well where else are you going to get this high? Of a ceiling from any player, and right now, teams are not teams are not bouncing in that category. And I think your first question was do you think teams don't don't believe in him? Or I forget exactly what you said, Scott, but to me, I think he's he's overvalued by the market in the sense of they're not willing to or he's overvalued himself in the market where if a team has come to him and said, we'll give you two hundred and forty million, he says, I mean unless his number starts at three, I don't even want to talk. Obviously, we don't know what's going on in those conversations. 00:23:46 Speaker 1: And hey, maybe he does take fifty million for this season, crushes it with a team and then the right suitor comes to mind. Sometimes it's not about the platform season, but it's also about the market. Right there's a team that really needs, you know, a star outfield, just seems like some of those teams are going to play for him. And it's a large, large ask if he is in the three hundred plus range. There are just not many teams that want to dance like that right now. In general, in baseball, no teams are forced to do that. Okay, let's get to the next rumor. Cody Bellinger conversations continuing with the Yankees. John Hayman reports this morning that talks have continued into this week. The Yankees are trying to bridge the gap in years by enhancing their latest offer, which is a five year offer. They're offering an opt out, They're offering a nice signing bonus. They're offering no deferrals. Parties have possible options, but effort being made to stay together. I continue to think this is the marriage that stays strong. 00:24:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, both sides need each other. 00:24:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can up things. I don't know, does the opt out do anything for you? I guess if it's after one year and he bangs again, and I don't know. 00:25:01 Speaker 2: How because he's done it at years now, I don't know that he wants to do that. 00:25:07 Speaker 1: Again, you know. But if it's if it's that same Let's say, let's say he can't get the sixth year, it just can't figure it out with another team whatever, and it's five and then he says, cool, I want an opt out in case I have another superstar season. And then things change with the next CBA. He could do that. The Yankees might be like, well, we're committing five. 00:25:24 Speaker 2: Years plus, Like I don't want to give you. 00:25:26 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. Maybe maybe they say after year three, right, but then his free agency is not looked at the same way that exactly. 00:25:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't I don't know. This is Bellinger is an interesting one because again this goes back to what other teams are interested. All we've really heard is Yankees, Yankee, Yankee, Yank Yanks. 00:25:46 Speaker 1: At that level, I'm not sure. Clearly the Mets like Kyle Tucker a lot more than Cody Bellinger. 00:25:51 Speaker 2: I think that's you mentioned the Angels. But would they want to do that Dodgers or they want to bring him back he was already there and then't bring him back. 00:25:59 Speaker 1: He's going to cost potentially five to one fifty, which is the same that the Mets probably are offering Kyle Tucker over three years right now with an opt out. But Tucker is a better player, better track record, So we'll see. This is interesting. This is heating up. 00:26:14 Speaker 3: Why not the Mets? Why not the Mets? Jorge Polanka is the answer at first base, Like they have a SUDA, they have a need in center field? 00:26:25 Speaker 1: Is it? 00:26:25 Speaker 3: Is it the years? Is it five years? Is it the look that woh whoa, whoa? You gave Cody Bellinger six years to get him over there. Why couldn't you have given Pete money? Like to me, I think the market should be out there for Cody, I because the whole time it was like the end of his LA career. You look at his war the last three years. You look at his ops plus it was one twelve forty four both injuries shortened years, and then eighty one ops plus. Yes, he had to rebuild his back. But how many times does Cody Bellinger say, yeah, go on, how many times do I have to rebuild my value? 00:27:08 Speaker 1: I feel you? I mean, hey, remember the Cubs traded him to the Yankees a year ago and they had to eat some money. You know, things can change very quickly up and down to the free agent. 00:27:17 Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of all that, we're sprinting rumors, we haven't heard any from ber Valdez rumors. Very few Rangers Suarez rumors. 00:27:25 Speaker 1: Orioles and Mets have been linked to those two for a long time, but nothing like they're in a stalemate. You know why, because they think that they need to get closer to the Dylanc's contract and they're not going They're not. 00:27:35 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, those are some pretty big names that just haven't even really I mean, we haven't talked about a ton. 00:27:41 Speaker 1: Those deals are not going to be as big. I think with Suarez it's some injury history, and with Valdez it's other things that we've talked about in the past. Let's get to one more rumor before we finish up. This is a juicy one. Jeff Passon reporting the Giants are aggressively pursuing a second basement and had been engaged in talks with the cub on Nico Horner and the Cardinals on Brendan Donovan. An infield of Matt Chapman, Willia Domas and either Donovan or Horner plus Rafael Devers would be among Major League Baseball's best. Now we're talking Giants, Hello, welcome to the off season. This is definitely something they should be doing, and I think that they probably land Brendan Donovan if they're serious. I don't think the Cubs are going to trade Nico Horner, but Donovan would be a great fit out there in San. 00:28:26 Speaker 2: Francisco and guess where Nico Horner is from is from? Yeah, he went to Stanford. 00:28:33 Speaker 1: But it's not up to him. I mean, the Cubs are going to ask for a boatload of prospects, and if I'm the Cubs, I do not disrupt that just flow right into the season. 00:28:42 Speaker 2: I say they are, But if they do, I mean, this would be a nice San Francis is gonna be a nice landing spot for Nico Horner. 00:28:46 Speaker 1: It would, But the Cardinals want to trade Brendan Donovan. I don't think that the Cubs want to trade Nico Horner. They're just doing their job to listen. So that's why I wore this shirt today to do something. Splashit territory shop dot com. 00:29:02 Speaker 3: Is this a little No? He worked because they woke up. He worked because they woke up, and there they have a chance to do something. But both those guys would be awesome types of players in San Francisco. Yes, Willie Domas went out and hit his hit, his thirty dingers. Yes, Raffie Devers is gonna hit thirty dingers next year in San Francisco, which is a tough power park. We get that. But two guys in Brandon Donovan and Nico Horner if they could land one of those guys. To me, they go and get value from a guy more than if he were to go play at another you know, one of those guys would go play at another home run friendly park. Like those guys put the ball in play. They know how to hit. It's the hit tool that very got. Very few guys have right now and very few guys know how to use. So to me, I love that if Buster Posey's going after that type of player. Yes, awesome, because you get like I could tell Marte not that he would go from the Diamonbacks Giants, but then it's like, Okay, does his power get squashed a little bit in San Francisco for eighty one games. I tend to think yes, But he's a big doubles guy too. But I would love both of those guys playing at second base for the Giants. 00:30:15 Speaker 1: It appears the Giants are done on the starting pitching side, so it's Logan Web, Robbie, Ray Tyler, Molly who they signed, Adrian Houser who they signed, and Landon wrote and then whatever lineup wise, they're missing a bat Junghu Lee Willia Domis. I'm just going through the fangraphs one through nine. Devers, Chapman, Ramos had a nice season. Bryce Eldridge, I guess they have put at DH right now, a rookie DH. And then Kasey Schmidt is put in at second base. That could be your utility. Patrick Bailey, who hasn't shown the bat but obviously is an amazing defender. And then they got Louis Montos right now in right field. They're at bat short. That would lengthen the lineup quite a bit. Donovan at second and can float around the blow little bit. So I'm into it. Go get it done. San Francisco. They're asking for a lot, and you're gonna have to give up a lot. All right, Let's lap a couple of things. Number one, congratulations to Bucco Territory are pirate show, which is what a month old? They have a thousand subs. That's a big accomplishment. Once you get to a thousand, you can start playing ball Splash. HiT's got a thousand and two. They started around the same time. You want to see this job opening and see if anyone's interested. 00:31:44 Speaker 2: I actually want to take this show. 00:31:45 Speaker 1: I do. How far away is it for Jupiter? Two hours, two hours. Okay, so the yep, I have a minor league manager. 00:31:56 Speaker 2: It's for the Florida Complex League YEP. 00:31:59 Speaker 1: And it pays between forty K and eighty K depending on your experience full benefit. 00:32:07 Speaker 2: I'd probably have to go for the eighty K. 00:32:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be your agent on that one. No fee, twenty five hundred dollars living stipend, one hundred dollars cell phone stipend in season only in season, and they take the phone back a thousand dollars continuing education stipend. So the whole job opening is posted on teamwork online if you're. 00:32:27 Speaker 2: Interested, does really hard? 00:32:29 Speaker 3: Does Aj Prazinski get that job if he applies for it? No chance, no chance you get that job, sorry, Aj? Like not qualified one way, not qualified, not qualified, And some people would say overqualified. Some people would say underqualified. I would just love to be in the room when you have the interview. So can we do like a hidden boss video, like a rolling into the Marlins Complex on the minor league side, Like you're not even you don't even know where the minor league side is. Like you guys come to the big league side and interview me over here. 00:33:09 Speaker 1: I was interviewed by the Marlins years ago for a broadcaster job, and Derek Jeter was on the call but didn't want anyone to know he was on the call. I know that for a fact. Someone who was with him told me after the fact, like, you don't want to give me a little love and say Hi, just want to listen. So Krats can do that for you if you do a zoom call and just be like, hey, guys, just me here, and Kratz is like, what are they saying? So it's a real thing. Jeter did it. 00:33:39 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just I just I'm just Florida Complex League. I mean I played in the Gulf Coast League back in the day. I played in the Florida Complex that I have experience that they have a really hard time of filling this job a lot of times because Zelle sucks. Oh because it's noon games in the middle of summer in Florida. 00:34:02 Speaker 1: You want to get into the coaching world in baseball, it's. 00:34:04 Speaker 2: A good place to stars, but that year is going to suck because you're up at six am and you're having to babysit. Eighteen seventeen eighteen year old kids. 00:34:14 Speaker 1: No state income tax the cell phone is with you for like five months. 00:34:21 Speaker 2: Not even because the Florida Complex is only like June and July. 00:34:25 Speaker 1: No, it's longer than I'm sure you run. 00:34:26 Speaker 3: I'm sure you run extended too. I'm sure you run extended. 00:34:30 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're not giving you know. 00:34:32 Speaker 2: I'm not applying because I never had to go to extended I'm one of my prouder moments of my career is I was a high school draft pick and I did not have to go to extended strid That is, that's a scout's looking at me like, I don't get it. Trust every guy that I think I was drafted with out of high school had to go to extended Speatrie and I, luckily was fortunateough to skip that. 00:34:53 Speaker 1: Life was tough for a young aj Perzentski. He's not hired. I was about to hire him now actually revoking his manager role, so he's staying on FT. We did all of that. 00:35:05 Speaker 3: That job. Whoever gets that job, he's gonna sweat like Max Kepler the drum test. I mean, just sweat time all day. 00:35:14 Speaker 1: Show your hat on the way. I won't say anything, but I. 00:35:17 Speaker 3: Mean I thought this was a team that had the biggest news today. But maybe I was wrong. Maybe I was wrong. The Damacks