Best of the Bus: Leonard Fournette On His NFL Journey + Was He Better Than Derrick Henry In College?

Bussin' With The Boys

On this episode of Best of the Bus, the boys were joined by the one and only Leonard “Playoff Lenny” Fournette for what turned into one of the funniest and most chaotic pods ever recorded on the bus. But it wasn’t all laughs — Lenny opened up about real moments from his NFL journey, giving us one of the most well-rounded, entertaining episodes of that year.

The Fournette interview kicked off with Lenny immediately revisiting his infamous fight with Jeffery Simmons at Titans practice, explaining exactly what went down. He then addressed the offseason weight rumors before diving into the unmatched football talent pipeline that comes out of New Orleans. Lenny opened up about getting cut from Jacksonville, shared what it was like asking for his release from Tampa Bay, and even gave an update on Tom Brady — all while sprinkling in some wild LSU fight stories from back in the day.

Things got even funnier during Tier Talk as the Boys debated the best fast-food breakfasts, and Lenny wrapped up the episode by discussing his friendship with Antonio Brown and answering the age-old question: was he a better college running back than Derrick Henry?

Big hugs, tiny kisses — this one was an all-timer.

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2025-11-22 63 min Transcript

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00:00:00
Speaker 1: That's our intur boys. We're gonna jump into this Lennard for an episode. I think you guys gonna fucking like it again. Comment subscribe like the pod do all this stuff for the boys, bigcog Shinny kisses.

00:00:09
Speaker 2: I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. I'm gonna be honest, it was way better when you guys came up here than what. It's hot as fucking Tampa. It is an absolute swamp down there, dude. It was you went to Tampa. We went to Tampa last year, which your boy was coming off the a cl so I was kind of like I was enjoying myself right. And it's a cool city too, Like there's like you have like a water everywhere and there's bridges, a lot of places to eat water and had a lot of stuff. Dude. It's got a good little beach five too at Tampa Bay. But well, we'll we'll Tarantina, we'll go. We're gonna go the end real quick. Yesterday. What's up with you and Jeff Simmons, Dude? Is uh? I heard I.

00:00:45
Speaker 1: Heard from somebody that you guys you're asked well by Jeff Simmons. I just heard that from somebody. Well, you know, I did see and then you.

00:00:54
Speaker 2: And I saw you kind of like get dazed, and then somebody caught you. Yeah, he like he got hit like this and he goes, man, what'd you say? And then Jeff and then he just go so leven and then Vida Bay caught him and he was get you out of here.

00:01:09
Speaker 3: Who I love beat him man, even if it did happen like that, which I don't know. It's a couple of guys who love football, you know what I mean. Yeah, but no, but you know I thought about football. We got into you know, a couple of you know, it was off and on because yesterday or the day before, they got the best of us, you know, I mean we came off flat as you. I mean, he was talking his talk. So we came out the next.

00:01:31
Speaker 2: Day like, yeah, this is Jeff talking, Yeah, talking to talk.

00:01:34
Speaker 3: So after afterwards going to you know, who's gonna fight eventually, Know it's always.

00:01:41
Speaker 2: Gonna be a fighter fight no matter what. So hpe everybody up like hit me, you know two times.

00:01:48
Speaker 3: Then it's like one hundred titans came out of nowhere. Then my team came.

00:01:52
Speaker 2: Well for real, Hey, he messed up. I messed up because we were doing like at the end, we're doing like end of game situations whatever, and you walk towards him, towards our sideline. My man wasn't using his he wasn't using the situational awareness. His matter rating went down a little bit. The sideline, bro, he's like Jeff, and Jeff turned around and Jeff didn't really talk. You can just see him, and then he and Lenny put it in there, and then all of a sudden, there are a lot of blue shirt some white shirts running in. I'm on there instigating that. Yeah, just sell the fight, dude. I was up there. We had a couple of girls and bikinis walking.

00:02:26
Speaker 4: Around round wall and yeah, you're going, they were.

00:02:31
Speaker 2: Going, Who's who's the dude's a three tickney fifty six. He's always got the grill in not shall because I was in there saying a bunch of stuff and he turned around, looked at me, and I was like, oh, he's taking it serious. Listen, I got two kids. I didn't try to fight nobody, you know, definitely, man, Oh yes, thought we won that first day? Huh yeah, yeah, we came off flat. So yeah, I definitely got us that first day.

00:02:54
Speaker 1: What happens in the in the meetings after, because I've been a part of the joint practice. Because there was one time Washington Vrabel was with Houston the Texans.

00:03:01
Speaker 2: Rabels in there obviously scrapping it up. He loves this one. The big nose tackle took that center to the back of the quarterback. Maybe they played for the Patriots for a long time, huge guy, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, what is his name?

00:03:16
Speaker 1: Played it bro Yes, And a massive fight broke out on like both sides essentially, like they canceled.

00:03:23
Speaker 2: The third day of practice and practice the rest of the day.

00:03:26
Speaker 1: But there's always like a fight that's gonna happen because day one happens, and whoever feels like they get the better, Like the coaches kind of rally you up.

00:03:32
Speaker 2: They do.

00:03:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they're kind of like when y'all came down that when he was going against vpp huh, I've seen it. I was like, oh, they did getting after that well.

00:03:42
Speaker 2: The first time. I don't know if you were with Tampa yet, it was like they told me, let me just tell you something. The first do one on ones. In my head, I'm like, I'm about to beat this dude's ass in one on ones and then trip his hands because he just blew his hand off about and tripped the fun out of his hand. Right now he comes in, Dude, I thought he was going out, so I went to punch and he he like clubbed me with that massive club clogs me and I'm like, oh ship, I try to go back, and he hit me again, spun me in a circle. It's the best move has ever been put on me in my life. And he remember it, touches the bag and goes and I did that with one hand. I'm like, everything from me, dude, I didn't stand a chance. Yeah, the whole day we had a we had a gig going. But yeah that was and then Bucks Twitter put that ship on there. Bucks Twitter's got to get me. Bucks.

00:04:26
Speaker 1: Well, okay, you said, oh the JP the JPP one on one reporter Buck as well.

00:04:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Buccaneers put that out JPP move and it's your boys getting put in a blender. And then they showed JP hand bro amazing, amazing. He's a stud. Like, don't get me wrong, I'm not throwing ship at the man. He's a stud. And he does that and they're like getting better, and then what happened. They had Shack Barrett doing a bull rush bull rush boy, Your boy said, your boy, okay, because I did sit on it. I'm glad. I'm glad with that. I'll pull that out.

00:04:59
Speaker 1: He just just getting better and it's just me and like going like backwards and then he somebody goes down and that's a whole pilemy.

00:05:06
Speaker 2: And he put me in the fucking ground too. I gotta stop doing them hard counts. Did you do the pr Do you run the social account? Okay, I guess we'd have to we could. Yeah, we'd have to get the mics out. That deleted immediately. Yeah, that was tough, dude, tough.

00:05:28
Speaker 1: So let's talk about the uh, the off season, the weight, all the fun content that was going around about you gaining weight.

00:05:35
Speaker 2: How much were you weighing?

00:05:36
Speaker 3: That's like around and what do you usually play at?

00:05:43
Speaker 2: So youat he's eleven pound? Yeah, I mean eleven pounds. It is not terrible, but yeah, the jersey, he's definitely an ex healths with the boy help yea, yeah we were because we talked about it on the bus. Ran a hard running. Yeah, you know you put that thing out there. You know what I'm saying.

00:05:56
Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely, But you know, at the time of football wasn't going on, so they wanted to find something to talk about it. I guess that was it. Yeah, you know what I mean. But I didn't. I didn't care. Huh yeah, no, hold on, yeah, but I didn't. It didn't bother me too much.

00:06:16
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

00:06:17
Speaker 3: I know who I am, and uh, my team know who I am when it when it came from for the game and time to prey playing practice, I'm coming with it.

00:06:26
Speaker 2: Yeah. But June and July, yeah, for free time, your thickest what months? Five March?

00:06:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, you can say when the season is over. I mean wife House six o'clock in the morning, All Star Special.

00:06:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know last out there at six in the morning. We're waking up at six in the morning. And we were up waking up.

00:06:51
Speaker 3: We've been whatever, just doing whatever on the game a game to like probably five o'clock.

00:06:57
Speaker 2: And then in the morning.

00:06:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, then I get up while I'm hunger. My chef might cook some health yesday, No, it's come come for lunch, Come for lunch. I'm about to go to waffle house.

00:07:06
Speaker 2: And then he home for dinner.

00:07:08
Speaker 1: Does your alarm go off like for like five fifty and just says waffle house.

00:07:12
Speaker 3: Just naturally my body just knowing what time it is, you know what i mean.

00:07:16
Speaker 2: So the New Orleans guys, man, I'm telling you, but yeah, he's New Orleans is like I dated a girl from back from bat First off, l s US probably my favorite SEC school for football. Obviously baseball. We're as we're a balls team here, but uh bro, I would go down. We kicked your ass though we I went to Michigan. You know what I'm saying.

00:07:37
Speaker 3: It all don't matter.

00:07:39
Speaker 2: That's why you got to pick on the balls. They haven't been like really it since.

00:07:43
Speaker 3: Like the nineties, right right, So I'm saying, so LSU was it's the school for baseball?

00:07:48
Speaker 2: Is it this?

00:07:49
Speaker 3: Dude?

00:07:49
Speaker 2: I did go to a baseball game at LSU and it's crazy. And LSU is known for their baseball.

00:07:54
Speaker 3: I went to Mike the Tiger when I was when I was in college, it was me. I was no one player in foot ball. We have Ben Simmons for uh basketballtball, and I want to say Alex for fucking baseball. You he played for Houston bro Ye, look at you boys have Ben Simmons, that's my guy. What's up with all the I don't even want these? Like I don't know rock you know, I can't get in. I can't get into all that not have that dog in him.

00:08:22
Speaker 2: Alex Brigman, that is Alex Brigman. First round though, so Alice usually just stacked like that always, Well that stadium is pretty dope. I'm not gonna lie. But what's the what's the place to go to? And? Uh was it Tiger Tiger Land? What's it called Fred's, Mike's, Bogies all that? Man? I told you I dated a girl in Baton Rouge. What I was really really gonna say? Because you're on that waffle house, you're a man of the world, like you've been. Yeah, I've traveled all over the continental United States. I've been around the block. Yeah, yeah, I've been around the I've been around these street.

00:08:54
Speaker 3: I mean you've been more than me, probably probably in college.

00:08:58
Speaker 2: Oh, buddy, dude, Bogie's. Now Bogie's is a spot. We would go there and they almost didn't let me in because I had tattoos. That's just a gangster. Yeah, look at me, hear my voice, I'm not.

00:09:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had just my form.

00:09:14
Speaker 2: Just a form, just a form and a red T shirt and they're like, hey, you can't come in. I have my ears pierce then too, like no piercings and no tattoos showing. And then eventually the manager came up and he's like, you can just come in. But Bogi's is really so much fun. But what I was really getting to with the Louisiana stuff is that the food there is you can't eat healthy in Louisiana. What's what? What's the deal? You guys just don't believe in health, don't like that.

00:09:39
Speaker 3: Thick lives matter, man's that's what about. That's what it's about, you know the seafood. I think it's just the culture. We have done the man the season and you know what I mean. And you know, I'm guys like us. We like myself. No, we're big and fast, so that's what we breed, Donna.

00:09:57
Speaker 2: Louisiana is really what are the best athletes come from in New Orleans?

00:10:00
Speaker 3: Uh?

00:10:01
Speaker 2: New Orleans?

00:10:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like no, one's like some people some people say Louisiana.

00:10:06
Speaker 2: Right, So I don't. But they have a lot of like competitive like schools go at. Yeah, but they are you about who the best high school is? How many guys came I here?

00:10:12
Speaker 3: But everything is in New Orleans though, Like a lot of people say, you know some people, somebody somebody myself, I'm from Louisiana. You know, I said, I'm from New Orleans. Yeah, it's a different culture. It's just different on you know what I mean, Like my high school, you know it was it was me time at you went to my high school, Lorenzo tray Turner. So we have a lot of guys who went through. And I played with Trademon freshman year. I was the only freshman to play on varsity. A that's run that time.

00:10:37
Speaker 2: You've just been him since the beginning.

00:10:38
Speaker 3: Huh yeah, number one ninth grader, number one player coming to my senior Yeah, hit me for that, dude.

00:10:46
Speaker 2: This man's really just been playoffmi. You always picked first in school for all sports. You could say that when were you when? When did you know I'm gonna leak?

00:10:54
Speaker 1: Uh?

00:10:56
Speaker 3: To be honest, Yes, we went honestly, be honest, like when I I guess my second year less you oh really? Yeah?

00:11:03
Speaker 2: Oh I thought I was going in the fourth and be like, yeah, I was just in.

00:11:06
Speaker 3: Puberty because you got to think about like, you know, I went through some ship, you know what I mean, And I got put out of six schools coming up.

00:11:12
Speaker 2: So I had the oh, you gotta pulled out of six schools coming.

00:11:15
Speaker 3: Out, put out for fighting all types of things. So I went to Saint Saint August like it's all boys, black school, you know, trying to kind of help you with your behavior and things like that because we had the paddle, you know what I mean, yeah, with the holes in it. Yeah, yeah, for discipline things like that. So uh, carry on. I came number one player, so I got my sophomore year, right, I'm about this is a true story my mom, if you watched this, you know, I mean my mother retired from work real yeah, when my sophomore in high school, I.

00:11:49
Speaker 2: Mean in college, you were getting paid in college.

00:11:51
Speaker 3: No thought I was gonna make it.

00:11:53
Speaker 2: Really I love that.

00:11:55
Speaker 3: So my first four games rush for a thousand yards. After that was history. It was over.

00:12:01
Speaker 2: You did have a crazy man like you made before you even went to the league.

00:12:05
Speaker 3: Definitely.

00:12:06
Speaker 2: Now did you get a little a little something.

00:12:09
Speaker 3: To which I did. I would have they look trusted, look, they would have seen it, I would have I would have bought the baddest car they had.

00:12:19
Speaker 1: You're trying to offer, trying to offer that little you know, that little envelope, that little Alabama old mess.

00:12:26
Speaker 2: Well take you.

00:12:26
Speaker 3: So my my two schools was ls YOU and Alabama. Britan Burns went to my high school, the runner back coach at Bama, and Frank Rolson went to my high school, the running back coach at l s U. So it was so hard for me because like, the backgrounds we have is the same thing, you know what I mean.

00:12:44
Speaker 2: So it just came out.

00:12:46
Speaker 3: Had I had a daughter around at time, too, and I went to Obama like during the off season, like just to check them out and things like that. It's boring and ship up though it's born as hell. So I'm like, I'm like, coach, this ain't for me, Coach, I gotta go way back and forth to see my see my kids and things like that. I just stayed home, man, because before that, Lanta Collins was the number one player Louis and he went to Bama, and I don't remember how much hate he got for that, But there was mad as ship at Landon too.

00:13:15
Speaker 2: Where's landing from? New Orleans, New Orleans. Yeah, everyone's from New Orleans. Where's the Dell from New Orleans? No, he's nice from New Orleans. Is do you all have the best? It's Baton Rouge, that ruge everybody? Uh, I mean there's probably who oh Edwards Alarice? Does New Orleans produce the best players in the game?

00:13:37
Speaker 3: On the New Orleans small You know you got Florida too, You know what I mean? Florida, Florida the state. Florida's yeah, Florida the world.

00:13:43
Speaker 2: Now you have New Orleans. You can say that. You can say that.

00:13:47
Speaker 3: I mean you look up, look up, you look up some of the great great names we come from my high school. Like talking about this athletic wise just put Saint Funk. I don't know what you'll put on now high school and athletes at least in New Orleans. Now we have basketball players.

00:14:05
Speaker 2: When are you done? You're to play in New Orleans? Are you live in New Orleans?

00:14:09
Speaker 3: Sorry? No, no, I'm not.

00:14:10
Speaker 2: I'm not you just you've been hyping New Orleans the whole time, but it's.

00:14:13
Speaker 3: Too close the family, Like, why why would I do that? Marshall fall, Jesus Peyton, Manny and.

00:14:18
Speaker 2: Reed Peyton Manning came from New Orleans. Yes, don't come on, Louis, I don't think it's from New Orleans. Oh no, he's the New Orleans Terry Bradshaw named Matt Folk. Look at the names. This is crazy with Mawaii Hall of Famer, Nias Williams Hall of Famer.

00:14:33
Speaker 3: Why now it's my guy, real Park. He like Manning Peyton Manning. Yes, uh, warrn done?

00:14:40
Speaker 2: New Orleans really like that?

00:14:42
Speaker 3: Comeh that Dak Prescott. I forgot about that. Yeah, oh man, Ben Simmons, Jarvis Landry.

00:14:51
Speaker 2: Simmons again, a lot of he took.

00:14:53
Speaker 1: He's taking a lot of heat because apparently he like sits out of injuries and stuff like that.

00:14:57
Speaker 2: I don't know. It sounds like, you know, there's some I want to hear that knows all about that. There is somebody here that confirm, Hey, Benny, what's up. Dude's Lenny and he's.

00:15:08
Speaker 3: Talk to Ben bro Benn is doing fine.

00:15:10
Speaker 2: Man.

00:15:10
Speaker 3: You know, we all go through our own things. Yeah, so we're talking about sitting out. So when I set out, I saw the first person to skip a ball.

00:15:18
Speaker 2: Game or whatever, right, and it was rewriting history.

00:15:21
Speaker 3: It was on my ass, like when I when I came to the draft and things like that. There was questions that do I love the game of football?

00:15:29
Speaker 2: Things like that, But let's put the tape on.

00:15:31
Speaker 3: They don't know. I played the whole year hurt.

00:15:33
Speaker 2: What'd you hurt? I got?

00:15:35
Speaker 3: I had a high and little angle spring, but I played. I heard it but a training camp and we had a game against Wisconsin two weeks later. I still played on one ass ankle, right, So my thing was, how can you question my passion for football when I'm still playing the half the season with a bum ankle. That's when I ran for sixteen carriages eighty four against Old Miss, when I ran over the dude, things like that on a on a hurd ankle.

00:16:03
Speaker 2: Hey, that's so crazy. That would you say you're the best running back in talasiaball history. That's it.

00:16:10
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of guys I can't. I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't.

00:16:14
Speaker 2: Really What about who's another good back that I want?

00:16:18
Speaker 1: I want him to continue to elaborate on him. The whole sitout thing.

00:16:22
Speaker 3: Hold all up, I heard what you said, right, We'll get.

00:16:24
Speaker 2: Back to that. We won't get back to that conversation. That'll be a fun one because I know it's not I'm taking because I think you're trying to preserve yourself for your future.

00:16:32
Speaker 1: Definitely, the conversation for going to the league, the Ben Simmons situation, the conversation is already there. You're already in the league. We're in playoff time. Yeah, that's not like he's like a playoff Bennie.

00:16:44
Speaker 2: Uh. I don't know.

00:16:45
Speaker 3: I feel like everyone goes today through their own problems and own situations and you never know what's on their mind on how they feel. Yeah, you know what I mean. My from my job, my goal is because Ben, Ben is my brother. I check on Ben, make sure mentally he's okay. You know what I mean, Because at the end of the day, football just something we do. That's not who we are. At the end of the day. You know, we all go to the mental battle. Of course, you played football, you know how it was. You know how it was too It could get it could get rough from dark times out there. You know, especially when you're trying to be the best you can be, you have other problems going on. So I don't know, that's that's kind of like A. That's a hard situation because I've been droor too, and I know how it felt like. Even when I got cut from Jacksonville too, like I was, I wasn't so hurt. I was just embarrassed. I've been number one my whole life at everything get cut and you get cut.

00:17:32
Speaker 2: Hey, GM wants to see.

00:17:32
Speaker 3: You, Yeah, definitely, which I've never experienced that before, you know what I mean. So when I came up there like seven thirty in the morning getting ready for eat breakfast and things like that, they say, coach won't see you. But I'm thinking, you want to talk to me, because you know, I made the team practice like that. You know, we had the things going with the Black Lives Matter thing, right, and we had a big big back and forth thing, go should we practice or should we go in front of the police station, and you know, take a stand. So my biggest thing, like we did the Martians, we did everything right, We did all that one day of us is going in front of police Station's not gonna change. It's not gonna change nothing. You know, Let's go put this work in. And we took a count as a team and that's what we did. And I felt like the next day. That's what it was about. It he cut me, you know, And that's when I had to really understand the business of the NFL football.

00:18:23
Speaker 2: Was there my fault? What did he say to you when they when they cut you? Like how they handle that situation? Because was it was it did? Was there anything at all to you that was like this might happen? What was their contract talks going on? And you were kind of like a cap casual.

00:18:37
Speaker 3: You gotta think about it. So that when they got rid of jailing rid of I got rid of Clais. So there's a lot of the guys.

00:18:45
Speaker 2: From Jacksonville time who made the team. Was was those.

00:18:49
Speaker 1: Are good players too, Like I know Yanick, he's a good leader. I played with them at the Raiders last year. He was like like when he spoke, you listened.

00:18:58
Speaker 2: Kalais is kind of the same way Like Klais seemed like he came in and changed Jacksonville. Yeah, they brought him over from Arizona and they kind of seemed like he just revamped everybody. You know what I'm saying. So was there a coaching changed that year? Nah? Why do you think you got cut?

00:19:13
Speaker 3: We just ain't see to I you know it would be times like the twenty nineteen season, we lost a couple of games around like six seven points and they get on the plane smiling happy. I mean, I'm not built like that, you know what I mean. So when you go to question the coach, like, man, you you're doing all this?

00:19:33
Speaker 2: Man? Were losing? Like what's up? Yeah?

00:19:35
Speaker 3: I knew how I feel to winning. What happens to our team? And you're talking about the money and things like that. When you win, that's when all that comes. And I just think he didn't respect me. How it came at him. I mean, that's all I knew. I got a father who was hard to ship on me, you know, just just keeping it real, you know. So when he said, maybe I have a problem, come talk to me, like a man, I had a problem. We're losing. How can we fix this? I want to win.

00:20:02
Speaker 2: Now, when you look back at that conversation, how did you approach it? It was it like a did you come at him?

00:20:07
Speaker 3: Or was it like let me highlight you, like yeah, we walked in the middle of I'll talk and for my understand I felt like he understood me. But I guess it's too fla males going at it or whatever the case. So now it just carried on to the next off season. You know, we will walk walk walk by each other in the hall. No, don't say a word. But then you're my coach. You know, you're my head coach, no matter how old I am with you a man, I'm a man.

00:20:32
Speaker 2: I respect you.

00:20:33
Speaker 3: You go tell my coach while not talking to me, you come ask me that, right, and I'll tell you why. Like I'm not gonna hide my hand, throw a rock, and I'm gonna tell you what's on my mind. So it was just it's about tilling for me to get out there.

00:20:46
Speaker 2: Man. That's wild, dude. So when you all right, so you get cut, after you get cut, how long are you on the street until?

00:20:53
Speaker 3: Uh, like a week a week. But I just wanted to take I remember the headline. It's like Leonardo was like, let's go.

00:21:01
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We got to play him twice a year, and every time you play Lenning, it's like, hey, we gotta have the run. You gotta stop the run. This guy's gonna they're gonna in the ball thirty times a game. So for us the times and for whatever reason, when you were there like we were just even when you guys were Saxonville for some reason, we just win, you know, man, like you go to relax, be good at any moment. I'm saying back then, back then, every year is a new year. So you're on.

00:21:26
Speaker 1: You're my words, Titans got that Jacksonville ass, which you relaxed.

00:21:30
Speaker 2: Hey, Rabels, now putting this up in the team meeting made me look like will though that's not your words. He's hearing you like, hey, we'll shut the fuck up. No, I'm just say headlines all say the same thing, busting with the boys, say hey, Titans beat the Jacksonville's ass. And it's just it's just a photo.

00:21:43
Speaker 1: I quote tweeted, it's just a photo of me fucking just flexing the entire time.

00:21:48
Speaker 2: So you're on, You're on the street for a week, and I'm sure there's a bunch of teams calling you. How soon after you get cut do you go from being like kind of sad upset to being like, Okay, this huge, huge opportunity, now you can kind of go where I want to get.

00:22:01
Speaker 3: I was still pissed off about it. Yeah, now, like even when huh, you're mad right now, right now you're good.

00:22:07
Speaker 1: I'm good, all right on your shoulder you carry with you because obviously it's like a humbling thing to you.

00:22:12
Speaker 3: Got to because even when, even when, when when time reached out to me, you know, I'm like, all right, I might go ahead, might Now I don't know.

00:22:19
Speaker 2: I was still like.

00:22:21
Speaker 3: At the time, I just didn't really care, you know what I mean. I just want to spend time with my kids and just just whatever. So just be mad. Yeah, I'm gonna keep it real like like that's a that's one of the I don't wish that nobody.

00:22:33
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just want to be mad for a couple of days.

00:22:37
Speaker 3: So I went to Tampa, you know what I mean, started playing things like that, still pissed off about it. It's like I'm with a whole new team. I'm forced to learn a whole new playbook. Uh, things like that. So and then you know, got to me in the mid season and I wasn't starting first time my life ever got to play behind somebody. So that ship ran me high. Mad at maddest ship that each and every day coming into work. So then we played against Carolina away in Carolina and got on the plane. We won a game with I got on the plane, I'm telling Coach BA like, man, I need to holler at you, like like, man, y'all told me all this ship well playing, I'm gonna come in and start and we in like week nine and I'm still behind somebody, you know what I mean. So he was like, man, he's like, what you want to do. I'm like, MANU, it release me in Tampa and Tampa.

00:23:33
Speaker 2: And this is a conversation where you're like, release me, and he was like, now did you make that? Did you make that decision emotionally or did you really.

00:23:41
Speaker 3: Have like think about it? It was it was emotionally, probably.

00:23:43
Speaker 2: Because if you go from Jacksonville get cut, go to Tampa a month later or two months later, they're like Leonard Fornett asked to be released, and then it's all of a sudden, like hey, who want you don't want touch this guy?

00:23:57
Speaker 3: It was it was it was from emotion emotions standpoint of view, you know, I mean, uh. And the thing what I respect about Coach Ba, he's old school too. He's like he's like, well, motherfucker, I don't want to cut you, but if you want to, I'll do it. He's like, man, you're a great player, one of the best. I've seen this that and there He's like, man, this make the decision and let me know when we make it home. And I would think about my kids, my family, you know this, how I provide for my kids?

00:24:22
Speaker 1: You know, certain guys reaching out to you, do you do they are they aware of the situation?

00:24:26
Speaker 3: Now your teammates this had this happened on a plane?

00:24:29
Speaker 2: Oh damn you Lenny in the exit, Roald mat as fuck no one talking to him right now? Yeah, check this out that forensic exactly how I probably went, hey, man, you see this and.

00:24:41
Speaker 3: It was on the plane, so I had to make the decision. And from then on, man like.

00:24:46
Speaker 2: A flourished What changed in your mind from that conversation saying hey, release me, sitting there feeling on the plane, and then obviously it had to be what twenty four hours were another conversation. What changed your mind saying hey, don't release me? Like, do you think I'm just gonna be the stood out? Who was starting in front of you? Ronald Jones?

00:25:02
Speaker 3: Okay, uh, I don't know my my my kids, man, you know, after really my family, you know, because just the whole year there was definitely me talking to me, pushing me, you know, just trying to keep my head on the swivel, make sure I'm doing the right thing. So, I mean, you have to keep fighting, like you never know what's at the end of the tunnel.

00:25:21
Speaker 2: To be honest, I don't get that. That's that's that's uh, that's a wild timeline. Yeah. Now he's like become playing. Yeah, yeah, I'm saying the playoff Lenny stuff is hilarious.

00:25:32
Speaker 3: By the way.

00:25:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, going back on the Jacksonville stuff, like you hear a lot of stories. I don't know, did you ever play with Marshall State? No, uh, but Spade was a linebacker that was at Washington and then he ended up going to Jacksonville. We ended up playing them in the game, and then afterwards He's like, Bro, playing in Jacksonville is fucking wild. You got coaches fighting on the sideline, players fighting on the sideline, just like a real toxic organization back in that back in.

00:25:58
Speaker 3: That back, I don't think we have a have fights on things like that with the coaches.

00:26:02
Speaker 2: Bro. Even last year Miles Jack, who were playing them because it was at home and Miles Jack's I guess at the end of the game, we're winning, He's like, just get us out of here, Like why are we calling time out? Like we're trying to run it like four minutes and he's like, we just stop calling time out, Like let's just get the fuck out of here. Like, great guy, dude, I'm a fan of Miles. I'm like athlete, the dude can move. But when you're you know, it's on the friend, it's on, Like Rabel will never let that happen, you.

00:26:28
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, Like my like, if that was the situation, he heard about it, Yeah, I think there's a difference between here.

00:26:34
Speaker 2: You'd like grave because Rape is a dude that like he's gonna shoot to you straight, and he always says his his big catch phrases, I'm gonna treat you how you treat the team. And so if you're out there, you're working, he's gonna he's gonna treat you right. Yeah, you guys that aren't, he's gonna get on your ass.

00:26:46
Speaker 1: So going back to uh, I won't I've heard stuff, but I won't ask about ice cream and cakes.

00:26:51
Speaker 2: But let's talk about some memories at LSU the Pain Cave. What's the pain cave.

00:26:56
Speaker 3: Oh, the pan caves. So they made a wooden gym, right we lifting? Uh, it's fun memories, you know what I mean?

00:27:07
Speaker 2: What happened? Wooden gym? So what y'all doing there? Left? We have the left lift wood waits but attached to wood. Basically, google a pin cave, dude, See if we can get a picture of this thing.

00:27:20
Speaker 3: Don't have it on a Oh.

00:27:21
Speaker 2: It's just like a secret society at lso you can't see nothing in there. Huh? Oh, was this the thing that happened when he got in trouble or something like? The pin cave is just like a punishment. No, it's just so.

00:27:33
Speaker 3: It's like our weight room was getting built and this is bean like a wooden room in the indoor or whatever the case may be.

00:27:38
Speaker 2: Just lift weeds to now? Oh, I got you? Is there any more context to ice cream and cakes? Ice cream and cakes? Ice cream and cakes?

00:27:46
Speaker 3: What is that?

00:27:47
Speaker 1: What I was told to ask you about? Ice cream and cakes? Who told you me about that? And give up my sources? A good reporter never gives up his sources.

00:27:53
Speaker 2: Hey, bleep it.

00:27:55
Speaker 1: He seemed to think that Lenny would really laugh at that and clear there's been no reactions.

00:28:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're we're in a tough stall, like maybe some bad information right now, we're looking bad, probably bad, he said, say it exactly like this.

00:28:08
Speaker 1: I won't ask you about ice cream and cakes, but let's talk about your time at L s U.

00:28:13
Speaker 2: He just said.

00:28:14
Speaker 1: He goes looks at me, he just goes, Okay.

00:28:18
Speaker 3: It's my guys, Levant and Vita.

00:28:20
Speaker 2: Oh they're here. I love him, he said, I love him. Are you guys a close groupe Tampa? He guys really like that? Like, where's Tom Ben? What's he up to? He's chilling? Man? I love Tom. Well, everybody loves Tom, but Tom I don't even know talking about.

00:28:34
Speaker 3: I love him outside of the football field. Well, when y'all play against him?

00:28:40
Speaker 2: What about with him? Yeah, obviously we don't like him when we play against him, But like you're kind of flex on us as you know Tom with it that is, he's really just the goat of all goats, right, best.

00:28:54
Speaker 3: Time he works his ass off. Here's no question. Like the physical time point, he might not be the biggest you know what I mean? The photos, Yeah, we saw the mental aspect of it. Though he fry your ship.

00:29:07
Speaker 2: There was a he was miked up or you were miked up or something like that, and he's going to fake a play action and goes cover two him. I remember that cover you. Yeah, bro, so you just don't really have to think does he make your game easier?

00:29:20
Speaker 3: I mean, having a great quarterback makes anybody games easier, you know what I mean?

00:29:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, but as far as now that kind of detail, but it's not.

00:29:28
Speaker 3: Yeah he does. But now, like you have, you have guys like Julio, got Mike, Chris has a comeback.

00:29:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, we Shelsey. How's Julio doing there?

00:29:39
Speaker 3: He's great male and he's funny as ship.

00:29:41
Speaker 2: Is your practicing gonna want? Yeah? Okay, yeah, ok he's going. Huh it's going. I saw him the first Damn he's getting him again. Huh yeah he is your bro. My source, I'm oh yeah, my source. Aw some go back to this fucking ice cream thing. No, no, no good. This is topic. I heard that you like post Malone.

00:30:20
Speaker 1: White Iverson was your favorite song until you found out post Malone was white.

00:30:24
Speaker 3: He was white.

00:30:26
Speaker 2: That's just what I heard, White Everson. I love that song, But but where the fuck you? So? I heard you? You're killing us right now? This is hard. I'm sorry, it's not you know, well you may, Hey, do you not like white people? That rap? I love lies? Were you surprised when you found out he was white? Definitely?

00:30:51
Speaker 3: Okay, well yeah, that's probably where it came from. That doesn't mean I didn't like that he was white. You can you can probably understand.

00:30:57
Speaker 1: You can probably understand next to him, who you think would get would try and give me this information.

00:31:04
Speaker 2: He went to l s you with me. Yeah, I gotta be a linebacker.

00:31:09
Speaker 3: No it's not. He played offense. Yeah, gotta be my third, well, my fifth for net brother.

00:31:21
Speaker 2: Your fifth for you, gotta for net brothers.

00:31:23
Speaker 3: He wants to, he wants to be a fet but he can't because he's white.

00:31:26
Speaker 2: Oh I would love to know this, and you might be right.

00:31:34
Speaker 3: I love Foster. Yeah, I love faster.

00:31:36
Speaker 2: So do you have any idea what this ice cream thing is? Then? Yeah? I really said that. He literally was like saying that.

00:31:43
Speaker 3: I can't I can't remember, I don't know.

00:31:45
Speaker 2: He said, he just get it. Definitely gonna watch this.

00:31:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, loosen him up, Not that he wasn't already coming on here, already lying faster. I know because he saw the clip up where Foster talked about the time he got his ass whoped and they l cu locker room. Man, he ends up hitting me up, he goes, Hey, everything Foster said was true because apparently Foster got like jumped by everybody.

00:32:08
Speaker 2: Well, he knew he was gonna get his ass because he started to fight.

00:32:11
Speaker 3: Oh so when our guys got beat, I guess got beat in the football field. So I told the coach. I was like, man, look before we start this ship offense, somebody gotta fight somebody, right, So off the corner like gang like yeah. Our coaches like, yeah, we go, which I'm not thinking when our coach is gonna do that, right, Yeah, so we get to his fight. Man, Foster just cracked back the ship out. Donnie, my guy Donny played play linebacker from New Orleans.

00:32:45
Speaker 2: Of course, yeah, apparently everyone is. He went.

00:32:51
Speaker 3: From New Orleans, and he went like he went so high in the air. Right, we get to the team fight. Whatever you hear Donnie walking down the hall, I'm thinking his mother fucker. So I'm like, I say, Foster run, I'm like, Foster run, so Falster. So he's just he's like what I'm like, faster you about to get your ass with Foster. So be on the fucking bathroom. Bathroom floor is ready, slipper, they got cles on.

00:33:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a horrible bad Yeah, take your shoes off first, like ship, hey piece, I'm gonna kiss your ass. Because he knew he was about to be in a fight with shoulder pads on, everything on. I have my helmet on two if I was, I'm like, why protection, you ask no protection?

00:33:34
Speaker 3: Not get jumped. You ain't cracked back, the cracked back one person.

00:33:37
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:33:38
Speaker 3: So he's just standing there by its about he's about a bathroom. So it's the so Chris, it's the stars right here, you know what I mean? And you wash your hands on the other side, he's just standing.

00:33:47
Speaker 2: There just looking.

00:33:49
Speaker 3: So he watched don he punched him, right, Why he was he watched the ass whoop man?

00:33:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he he says that right, Yeah, he knew he needs Yeah.

00:34:00
Speaker 3: Oh man, he's leaking everywhere, right, he leaking. Not hit him one time, he's leaking. He's like, come on, So I'm like, nah, we're not gonna do that. So they kind of started wrestling.

00:34:11
Speaker 2: I'm like, so then dude in the bathroom wrestling on right, Hey, you guys. Let he goes, hey, we're not going to do that. You're on the ground wrestle.

00:34:21
Speaker 3: So they started wrestling, right, we have to break him up, blood everywhere and ship like that.

00:34:25
Speaker 2: So then he got Foster gets up. Oh we're good. Now, I'm like, Foster, you ain't do nothing. Oh my god. So that they move on, are they boys? Now?

00:34:39
Speaker 3: Yeah?

00:34:40
Speaker 2: So if you were to see Jeffrey Simms r. Now you guys, you boys guys cool now? Yeah, of course I love that.

00:34:44
Speaker 1: It was just the heat of the moment, definitely, And I was joking about the whole ass. I mean, I didn't know that you got like hit in the mouth and something. Actually I didn't even see it. The only thing I didn't know he started it.

00:34:53
Speaker 2: And then he's all mad. He was walking like a letty. What's wrong?

00:34:57
Speaker 1: I forget who I heard it from, but I just heard he was wasn't in and he just comes out of nowhere to go like fight jeff Simmons because he wasn't.

00:35:05
Speaker 3: It was like it was in a practice.

00:35:07
Speaker 2: Was the last place we can all go home? That for practice?

00:35:10
Speaker 3: Right, we did the two minute thing or whatever. Oh, they catch the interception. Then the second team went and then he came. He came out on the sideline. He was talking ship to one office of lineman. I'm like, I'm going to break it up.

00:35:21
Speaker 2: Really yeah, he was like, what the what the fuck you doing? The hold time? Listen what we just met. And I'm really trying to navigate our new friendship. But you can put the film on it, so you're not trying to bring ship up. Your team's over there.

00:35:35
Speaker 3: But we had to play over there. Yeah, so it's a one hundred of yards two of us. Then he already tripping at him the whole practice. Yeah, so you know, I think I think fast.

00:35:43
Speaker 2: What did you say? I can't really see it right here.

00:35:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, but so it was something that instigated a fight. He wasn't really trying to break it up.

00:35:50
Speaker 2: The film was grown on. The film stayed on like the play was over, and they kept the framers running as they pull it up. Who swung first, then Jeff?

00:35:59
Speaker 3: Right, that is?

00:36:01
Speaker 2: But who said words first? We both said words? Oh no, Jeff was walking away.

00:36:05
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no no no he wasn't.

00:36:07
Speaker 2: Jeff was bro I'm telling you here's what happened. The play is done. Teams are literally walking in like this. You see one guy you walking this way, and you see Simmons literally he says something whatever, turns around and takes three full steps and then no to our sideline. The day is over. We're bringing it up. Why turn back then, you because you open them out, dude. They asked white teeth. Dude. You see him say yelling something and turns around and you can see justice. I'm like, would you say, bink? You hit him? But then you came up with two You had two pieces in a biscuit real quick, just real fast. And then all of a sudden, a lot of blue jerseys, A lot of blue jersey, yeah, behind it, and a trash the quarterback, you piece of ship. Were you wondering where all the red jerseys were? No, I didn't care.

00:36:57
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hold my own. That's one thing about me.

00:36:59
Speaker 2: I know how to fight.

00:37:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, ninety of us the most can do kill me, right well, we could. With ninety guys on one, we could kill you playing. You're gonna get charge for murder than what all of us.

00:37:18
Speaker 2: We have A guy like that four string guy, you got what.

00:37:21
Speaker 3: I'm bringing the whole New Orleans to Tennessee.

00:37:23
Speaker 2: But you're dead. No, no, no, they're gonna ride for me if I'm like that. You don't want New Orleans to come out here, New Orleans. You don't want to mess New Orleans. Now. You boys are racy? Yeah, hey, Racy is all time. Now, who's this thirteen? He's a wide receiver for us, you baby, you guy, he's done. I think he's from uh ninth ward New Orleans. I'm out the seventh ward. Yeah, you gotta know, that's why, that's why, that's that's why, that's why I went number seven, really from my hood. Yeah, man, you could have brought that up in the beginning. That's why. That's actually that's why right now, No, you have the seventh from me.

00:37:58
Speaker 3: I thought being that's too much, even though I always think of that though.

00:38:06
Speaker 2: This tattooed for me.

00:38:07
Speaker 1: Should we get into our tier talk it so, you know, are you familiar with our tier talk?

00:38:12
Speaker 2: Basically tier it's like our top three things, but we just call it tier talk.

00:38:16
Speaker 1: Okay, But our tear talk for this show is going to be fast food breakfast.

00:38:21
Speaker 2: Now, waffle house is fast casual, like it has to have a drive through. Yeah, this is you can't say waffle house that's hey. I'll tell you what. Waffles is a fire breakfast spot. We can just put that in God here to make you make you happy. Yeah, has its holes, man, it's better than But if you looked at all the other places. No, I think it's good, but have its holes the same. No, if you're looking for Hey, if you're hungover, you know, if you're hungover, there's really no better spot to go the waffle house. Get the hash brown smothered covered. I don't know, man, get it all done. You you did that a couple of times. Talk about But if you look at a waffle house, walle House beats out I beats out Denny's. Does it beat out Cracker Brow? Yes? I think crack about the breath the men.

00:39:10
Speaker 3: I love Crackerbro pancakes the best.

00:39:14
Speaker 2: I'm not even a pancake guy, really, I'm a waffle guy. Dude, you're literally eating cake for breakfast. What are you talking about. It's the most childish thing you can do.

00:39:30
Speaker 3: We are calling, oh my god.

00:39:33
Speaker 2: All right, So we're gonna do the back too, all right. So basically basically this is gonna go. You're gonna go first. This is tough. I I feel for you, it's gonna be fast food spots. These are just references you're looking at here. So you're gonna go your top three. You're you're number three, you're number two, and you're number one, And feel free to give as much of an explanation as you like. And if you want an honorable mention, you're more than welcome to do that too. Okay, I'll give you a minute, yo, boss Yo.

00:40:02
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting here with your boy playoff Lenny, and I say exactly what you said. I'm not going to talk about ice cream and cakes, but let's talk about your time at l s U.

00:40:12
Speaker 2: He looked at me and just goes okay, And.

00:40:14
Speaker 1: Then I said pivoted to the bank cave, and then I tried going back. I'm like, what's what's going on with ice cream?

00:40:21
Speaker 2: Because I don't know what you're talking about? False? What is that? I don't I don't know if I remember. I don't know if I remember Lenny. I don't know if I remember either. Okay, so listen, maybe it's a side conversation not to have.

00:40:32
Speaker 3: That's clarified, right, You're righty, it's clarified. Listen to me. False, Yo, what is your last name. Oh shit, ship, last time I checked, just.

00:40:41
Speaker 2: Started with it l right, but but what last name? Right there? He said, he said, you're his guy.

00:40:51
Speaker 1: You're like your his fifth for Neet brother or yeah, yeah, fifth for Neet brother. But you can't really be in the family because you're like as.

00:40:56
Speaker 2: Long as he knows, I'm not his son.

00:40:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, that's all I had because they said they call you on the whole ice cream and cakes.

00:41:04
Speaker 2: You you beautiful bastards. I love you too. Yeah. What a squad, what a crew?

00:41:14
Speaker 3: All right?

00:41:14
Speaker 2: I'm tell Lenny's love by his teammates. Yeah, tell, We're gonna see how they interact when we all we're gonna watch that. Make sure you get on film because if Lenny just walks out the door, we know Tampa's in trouble. All right, Top three. I kind of gave him the rundown you can do. You have to do your Tier three three and then two and then number one for you, and I told him you can give an honorable mention. I myself, I'm not ready. I'm not prepared, So I'm anxious to see last I feel my heart beat.

00:41:40
Speaker 3: Can I can I speak the honest truth?

00:41:41
Speaker 2: Go ahead.

00:41:42
Speaker 3: I never had a Starbucks breakfast, that's okay, Yeah, I think.

00:41:46
Speaker 2: I've never had it.

00:41:47
Speaker 3: When I do have my free time off season, my daughter I bring it every day to go for school. She loves white hot coco, like seventeen dollars, right, the white mocha. Yeah whatever, it's like seventeen dollars. It's too high, yeah, too high. But you just get a little Starbucks though. Yeah, your Starbucks over Duncan.

00:42:07
Speaker 2: I know the owners with the owner of Duncan and Starbucks of Starbucks Bucks over Dunk. I wish you invested soon. Let's go, buddy, all right, all yeah, so start with three again. You can throw it off man.

00:42:28
Speaker 3: McDonald's because it's just my childhood thing for me, the mcgriddle biscuit, love it.

00:42:36
Speaker 2: Yeah. Two burking has breakfast. That's obviously to sticks trying to fucking kick a little bit.

00:42:48
Speaker 3: But oh man, I never knew that do you have breakfast?

00:42:52
Speaker 1: You don't have to pick off this list either, Like if you're thinking, like if you're driving around, you want fast through breakfast, Like what three spots are you trying to go to?

00:42:58
Speaker 3: But it'll be spots I never heard off though, Like.

00:43:00
Speaker 1: That's Okay, yeah, you can do your thing. You might get drove by the internet, but that's you.

00:43:04
Speaker 2: Know and them.

00:43:06
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, all up.

00:43:10
Speaker 2: So that fight bro.

00:43:14
Speaker 3: So in New Orleans got this famous is called Mama's. Mama's where they serve anything you want food? Are we talking about you? Like they have a drive through? No draft through, bro I'm go again, but they don't have dropt You gotta walk in and you know, get your stuff old school, all right. Well, I love Chick fil a? So is that your two? I just stopped right there. I ain't got an anable mention. I just stopped at Chick fil a.

00:43:45
Speaker 1: You got three and two and you're fucking You're like, no one, no one. You don't put number one.

00:43:52
Speaker 3: No, I don't have a number.

00:43:53
Speaker 2: One's wild and that's what we should put in there.

00:43:55
Speaker 3: I don't have about it like where we're from, Like our breakfast spots are like our gas stations.

00:44:00
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna tell me on not having your favorite Listen.

00:44:03
Speaker 3: Listen, our gas used to cook better than half of these on.

00:44:05
Speaker 2: Here we are shaking your head for a Garrett. You're not from New Orleans, I imagine.

00:44:11
Speaker 3: Yeah again, listen, listen, work Mama were to my mother and my kids.

00:44:17
Speaker 2: I was late to school in high school every day, every day, right, because I believe it. I do believe in breakfast.

00:44:24
Speaker 1: You if you got pulled from sis schools, I do not down for a second that you relate every day to school.

00:44:27
Speaker 3: Every day. I stop at Mama's and it's sold donuts too, and get my whole class donuts.

00:44:32
Speaker 2: Oh, you never get in trouble. But what he was, man, dude, it must have been amazing being number one.

00:44:39
Speaker 1: Which is Dominus on the bus because everybody he's like the gas station we got in little everybody back there.

00:44:44
Speaker 2: He says, like two minutes late.

00:44:46
Speaker 3: But you know it's right around the corner, like right down the street, walking distance.

00:44:49
Speaker 2: So I just drive up.

00:44:50
Speaker 3: I wait, I can put my all in wait for to school, feeding my whole team.

00:44:55
Speaker 2: You can go two minutes earlier. I look at that sleep I love way. Well it doesn't have a tier one. I'm literally blown away, right. Why I'm blown away because because then just go one and two. You don't have a three. Hey, no, no, no, you you've already say yourself and st yeah and two there's no one. I love it. I'm just blown away that that's mamas. I wish I don't have one? Would you would you say beignets are overrated? Or is that? Is that just a tourist thing? Mm hmm it depends.

00:45:30
Speaker 3: Okay, I've had it my whole life, so yeah, I can go without.

00:45:35
Speaker 2: Yeah you've had you've Yeah, are you trying to figure out if you're you're a man in New Orleans or like if you just didn't. I'm from that Bee's thing. I'm from New Orleans Garden District.

00:45:42
Speaker 3: Okay, let's hold hold up now, let's talk about it. Had Bee's chicken right, all right, I gotta, I gotta. I got an issue with that right now, right, speak your truth. You know we had it a couple of days ago.

00:45:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this way, the whole team right now, the day bring a whole bunch of food.

00:45:57
Speaker 3: There they brought they had the every day, the spicies, the hot chicken and whatever.

00:46:02
Speaker 2: Catered it. Then they brought it down cad it. So you already know food's always better when you go to places than when you get it buffet style. Just as long as you understand that before you say what you're gonna say. Yeah, you like like if you if you you've obviously played. What are you talking about? Think about when you get California and they all get a bunch of in and out burger for people, burgers are a little soggy burgers. Oh that's my that's what my best burger spot? Yeah, don't we're getting where to god, there is one in my head. If you say one the interviews O let me.

00:46:34
Speaker 3: Let me tell you might have ever get ready. I don't like it. I don't I hate what a burger?

00:46:41
Speaker 2: No disrespect to that. You're saying nothing from that trending the way I need you to trend.

00:46:46
Speaker 3: What else?

00:46:47
Speaker 2: What's your what's your number one spot? Okay, what's your number two spot? Because you don't do number one? What's about this food period right now? Right? Yeah? Man? Uh the bacon nata, Oh Wendy oh fire bro running back. We got to talk about that too.

00:47:04
Speaker 1: Were arguing, vain sticking out of her neck about what the best persons.

00:47:08
Speaker 2: Wendy is the best fast food. What he says Wendy's is the best best best food burger. Yeah, he probably says the best fast food too. I mean, if you're the nuggets, what's another burger? Because we can't we all know what I'm trying to get him. This the five guys.

00:47:23
Speaker 3: You five guys, love guys.

00:47:25
Speaker 2: Guys, but we need big dog bro. I never knew that was the most basic I've heard from you. Why I thought you were in it? If you're talking about you're talking he seems outside the bottom a perfect idea.

00:47:37
Speaker 3: You're eating the peanuts while you wait on your food.

00:47:39
Speaker 2: You know what are you doing? Hyping him up? Talk fucking crazy, dude. You don't like it? And ol, have you ever been to this place? If you went inside? I went to one in California? What did you get?

00:47:52
Speaker 3: I don't know. Some ship had my stomach for weeks.

00:47:56
Speaker 2: He's from New Orleans. He's from New Orleans.

00:47:59
Speaker 3: I know, I know.

00:47:59
Speaker 2: Listen, don't Everything they have is.

00:48:03
Speaker 1: The The beginning of that conversation was like, if you get chick fil a after a game, it don't taste the same as when you go into.

00:48:10
Speaker 2: Chick fil A and order chick fil a facts. Who says that I do too? I think I would rather go in and order going away away games? Like who, there's always food there? What do you guys have? We bring our own food, I'm saying, but they have food there too, don't they.

00:48:24
Speaker 3: Like everybody literally brings their own food. Really, hundred one hundred wings from Wingstop, Chick fil A's Burgers, Nuggets.

00:48:33
Speaker 2: Wing Stop. You get the rookies to go, no, no.

00:48:36
Speaker 3: No, the older guys go sometimes too. Okay, take brother, like we don't. We don't like that people live.

00:48:42
Speaker 2: That boy has no judgment on food. I respect it, yeah, but I think it's just it's mind blowing to think that. Like, if you get something.

00:48:51
Speaker 3: To New Orleans, right, I'm going I'm sending you a PJ okay, right, and I'm gonna let my mother cook for us.

00:48:57
Speaker 2: Done, well, we'll film the whole thing. Beans I want, sure, jeez Kate, Sure, but you didn't say a protein at all in there. You just said a bunch of you just said.

00:49:08
Speaker 3: This off time this to seventy lining right now talking to you.

00:49:11
Speaker 1: Oh, my roommate and college's name is Terrence Moore from New Orleans, Proud New Orleans, and his mom would come up and make like the red beans the right, it is fire. It's like a home cooked meal.

00:49:30
Speaker 3: Five on crossfish for you for me, right, yeah, fifteen pounds by myself.

00:49:35
Speaker 2: Man, I see, I'm not sold on craft. No way too much work. You have a bucket across to yourself, like you're gonna.

00:49:42
Speaker 3: Have a barbecue.

00:49:44
Speaker 2: So you're gonna have a little barbecue out there.

00:49:46
Speaker 1: What it's just too much work for little ass meat, Dude, I'm trying to get some some meat out of my you know, if I'm working.

00:49:52
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, No fat, no falls man nom with you port you in this year. I'm telling you no. Coffee is awesome, but it's a social thing, you know what I'm saying. You know, you don't know if you just see some of the potatoes of the corn in there too, wait for a couple of batches to go so it's extra spicy and you're good. Yeah, so you don't like hattie bees? Is that where you're trying to get at? Ye?

00:50:16
Speaker 3: Your princess had it had his bees. Okay, But while I'm from Manchu is the police man chew m A N C h U. Yes, you get listening. You can get listen to me. My people back.

00:50:28
Speaker 2: Home they know love how he engages with you.

00:50:32
Speaker 3: You can get a ten piece, right, ten piece, but seven nine and nine with double fried rice.

00:50:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely organic. JP will blow up talk. Yeah, sorry, yeah it is. We went off. That is baby kness, A piece what Kynes can combo baby yeah, a fall out, extra piece of toast, extra sauce.

00:51:02
Speaker 3: I need you like six six sauces.

00:51:09
Speaker 2: He keeps going, No, I go ahead, so you can get.

00:51:13
Speaker 1: It going because I know we have a couple of guests us waiting and we have we have ah tear talking in our final question brought to us by rowback, which we'll learn about.

00:51:25
Speaker 2: Uh.

00:51:25
Speaker 1: But my Tier three, I think Taco Bell's Breakfast is very fucking I've only hit it a couple of times because I learned about it through the through the bird app.

00:51:33
Speaker 2: I talked about it, the crunch.

00:51:34
Speaker 1: Araps, the the uh it's like the sausage, sausage and a crunch wrap. You're telling you Taco bell Breakfast is fire number two. Hang on, brother, it's it's you had your time. He was we we we he.

00:51:45
Speaker 2: Was very respectful of your time when you were going. Thank you.

00:51:47
Speaker 1: Mi.

00:51:49
Speaker 2: My number two, my number two parties.

00:51:52
Speaker 1: I think they're They're extremely versatile on their menu, their biscuits and gravy, their sausage, egg and cheese, biscuits, all everything that Hardy's does at breakfast time is phenomenal. And their burger they're five dollars burgers.

00:52:03
Speaker 2: Incredible as well.

00:52:04
Speaker 1: You love what is it the Western Bacon cheese cheesurgercross junior but hearty and like the same thing called the Western.

00:52:10
Speaker 2: Western Bacon cheeseburger. Check it out. You got bacon on there, you got cheese, you got onion rings. Wine, yes, wine, you know what important? Okay, you definitely eat port. You just said the Baconators are the best burger that's all season in season. I don't eat the but it was just a segment of our life. You're living your life.

00:52:33
Speaker 1: And number one, you's already alluded to it as your tier three for nostalgia. But I think you cannot be McDonald's breakfast like when you grow up, when your parents take you to McDonald's breakfast, like you think you're doing something. And then when you watch mcdady and the McDonald's breakfast is kind of built around that scene, it's just a mcgriddle, the uh, the little sausage breakfast burritos. They're mcmuffins, their biscuits like Brita, like six of them things. Yeah, no problem, and they're hostels kind of good. Like it's like I like them, sneak of calling them hotcakes. You just me in that little styrofoam box too, Like it's just they do it right.

00:53:05
Speaker 3: So that's that's my that's in high school. This when the Hot Spicy came out right.

00:53:10
Speaker 2: All right, this is pretty I feel like this is really serious.

00:53:13
Speaker 3: It's serious. So you know we play on Saturdays. Okay, I eat at least two High Spices before the game, right every game reflect two ninety Okay, maybe I should have start eating Hot Spices again.

00:53:25
Speaker 2: Unless you play it, Tians, you might be on wants to play it Tians. Absolutely, you might be on the something Hot Spicies. All right, you lost me in the beginning, but I think he picked it up at the end. Just try it inster just in future, like you know, Yeah, Mike, Tier three is going to be uh Jack in the Box. For from a nostalgia standpoint as a kid, that's where we would go. It was right by the Ranchers or Jack in the Box. We'd go over there, we get some brecky. It was. It was really good. My Tier two is gonna be Carl's Junior, which you referred to as Hearty's. The breakfast burrito at Carls Junior is unmatched, dude. The amount hold yourself now, the amount of meat. Bro It's thick, and there's like it's not like little specks of meat where it's like, hey, we checked the box. You're talking about about a piece of ham folded in there like a big ass piece of ham. Yeah, that's swine. I'm talking about little pieces of sausage, a lot of cheese in there. The egg. It's a great ratio. Then you can't beat that. My Tier one's got to be Mickey Di's. That's better to be McDonald's's a batser events is. The more I know it skipped with the mcgriddle, I think is probably the best thing they have. It's unreal, dude, it's so fucking good. The breakfast burritos are delicious.

00:54:49
Speaker 1: And the fact that nobody tries to recreate and make their own version of the macgrids, all of them.

00:54:53
Speaker 2: They can't figure it out. Maybe they can't. I just think that I think the mcgriddle's fantastic. The pancakes, for real, you feel like it's a home cooked meal. When do you get the pancakes, It's it's awesome. And then obviously I'm a big breakfast Brital guy. I love the hot sauce to have there too. It's I was saying, okay, let's go to one thing. You lost me on taco bell. I'm telling you try it out.

00:55:15
Speaker 1: I've only had it a couple of times, but it really is like it made a Tier three after just trying it out. Yeah, trying it out a couple of times, you know how you can do a couple you know, Yeah, like you dip your tone in a couple of times and they can kind of climb the ladder. Another example of that is I learned about penn station. I learned about pin station subs. You never had it when we did the sandwich tear talk And here there's a pin station over over in like the uh is a Belmont Belmont are Bellevue, Belmont you live, you live either one of those areas, Like, there was a pin station there and I tried it out, and it is fire, Tori. If I did the sandwich thing again, I would kind of re rank some stuff. Really, Yes, bro, I swear that ship is fire. You get the Italian heated say less. I'm telling you this and the meat is packed in. I know, I fucking people get me on this all the time, but it is.

00:56:05
Speaker 2: The sandwich, right.

00:56:07
Speaker 1: It is because I went and got penn station in Jersey Mix because I feel like I never gave Jersey Mix a real shots, so I would have both sandwiches Italians on each side by side, and Jersey Mix is just like there's too much bread.

00:56:18
Speaker 2: There's just there's too much going on. I think Jersey Mix is delicious.

00:56:21
Speaker 1: What was the vibe like when you saw Abe take his pads off.

00:56:27
Speaker 2: I wasn't a game. You weren't there. I was hurt. What was the vibe like around that whole situation?

00:56:33
Speaker 3: To be honest, I didn't watch the game. I was sleeping, okay, because like we're playing the Jets outside of.

00:56:40
Speaker 2: The game, Like, what was that whole vibe?

00:56:42
Speaker 1: Like this is this something that you were not surprised about, something that was I was definitely.

00:56:48
Speaker 2: Right. I wasn't at the game.

00:56:52
Speaker 3: I was sorry I was playing, Yes, I was.

00:56:57
Speaker 2: Oh. To be honest, it was the Jets.

00:57:00
Speaker 3: I heard my handstringing that recovers the key to get the hand me back.

00:57:04
Speaker 2: Yeah. Doctor, what do you think when you woke up and you saw that turn of events happen.

00:57:09
Speaker 3: It was crazy, man, like my year, my two years that with him, I love a b I mean, no player worked harder than him. I've heard I'm not gonna lie.

00:57:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, unanimously. It seems like that's the dancer for never worked harder than him.

00:57:24
Speaker 3: But you know, once again, you know, it's like going back to Ben the bench situation. You know, everybody has their own turn of events they go through. So but still, my boy, we talk every day.

00:57:33
Speaker 2: You and mayb.

00:57:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bumpus music.

00:57:36
Speaker 2: Everybody you like his music?

00:57:38
Speaker 3: Oh the everything?

00:57:40
Speaker 2: Can you do the dance? Can you give us a little a for Derek Henry college football? Who you got? Who we got? Who I got? No? I know who you got? But like, give you give me your argument? Why so?

00:57:55
Speaker 3: Me and Derek used to train with each other, right, and I fussed with him every We talked about this, right yeah, you know his last my sophomore, in his last four games, he got the Bowl forty.

00:58:05
Speaker 2: Sometimes, uh huh in.

00:58:07
Speaker 3: The last four games, right, yeah, he played a game, He played one game more than me. You want to finish with two thousand and seven yards whatever? And I finished with nineteen one hundred and whatever, yards, but what one less game?

00:58:19
Speaker 2: Okay, that says it all. Really, it's all I heard in that situation was Derek got two thousand and you didn't.

00:58:27
Speaker 1: You will if you look, if you look up the yards, if you look up yards per game.

00:58:30
Speaker 2: Yards. We looked it up. We were talking about well, we were talking about.

00:58:34
Speaker 3: This the Russian that's right, we were talking about here whatever the see Russian thing. I had one hundred and sixty two yards per game.

00:58:42
Speaker 2: No, that's solid. No, no, no, no, no it's not not he's a grown man. Yeah, would you up? Bro? Yeah?

00:58:58
Speaker 1: The ship talk? Of course, what's it? Let's talk them about Nebraska. What have dogged LSU Nebraska? Yes, bro, you wait till my dog is on the bus. Come on in here, booking.

00:59:12
Speaker 3: You went to Nebraska, right, ask?

00:59:15
Speaker 2: Will you? Have you heard about Nebraska Michigan? Oh, you haven't heard the news. The greatest trophy game in the history of all trophy games is happening November twelfth for the first time the bust and Bowl. Nebraska will fight Michigan to take home a bronze trophy with this bus on top of it. The bust and Bowl for the next eight season. I like the eight. I like that, and I will say it. I'm going to stand it now. I'm gonna say it now. Michigan's gonna win every single one of those games. Question answer, I need you with the Michigan. I think the Michigan could be L s U right now? Win, yes, right now? Yes, Why he's going were garbage last year. What that means your your head coaches is fake Southern accents. We're gonna yes, mister ban Yeah, my family out here. You were saying win everywhere you go. He wins everywhere. I can't believe we have Notre Dame. But why not you go to L s U. I know, but he was, he had been forever coach there.

01:00:15
Speaker 1: But think about how much you can the resources you have to win, and the guys you already have in New Orleans that are going to just come to L.

01:00:23
Speaker 2: S U. I mean they pay. Notre Dame is harder to because they're in the middle of nowhere. I will say this, like, you guys pay you guys pay players. There's no question. In Io they probably do. I don't know you know they did before. In IOL you're the number one player in What that means in the world create bags were just thrown at you, dude, bags were thrown at you. I've heard too many stories from too many other people here.

01:00:46
Speaker 3: So the inn iol right, Yeah, how much money would would have made?

01:00:49
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going off it's a lineman, but I have an outstanding personality. You probably have made seven thousand dollars. What bro I'm gon of If it's a lineman, you would have made eight figures millions. Yeah, sling would have made based off stuff you see out there, Like how the longest last rowback question ever?

01:01:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know because you think about when I was in school, they had my beard, my braces around the whole stadium. Then seven is like a legendary number of the right. Yeah, so they always had that. I probably made ten million dollars I was in college. What I would have stayed in college? Awful years?

01:01:22
Speaker 2: You would have? Why not?

01:01:24
Speaker 1: Because because at the nil Now, like I think if like you left early, right after your junior.

01:01:28
Speaker 2: Year, like Derek only started one years, but keep going.

01:01:33
Speaker 3: Got the ball eighty times in the last four.

01:01:38
Speaker 2: My man doesn't slow down. He just keeps fucking going. Man.

01:01:40
Speaker 1: But say he would have been projected a first round pick. What'd you make. What would you make the first year of your deal?

01:01:47
Speaker 3: Let me think I was four four, Yeah, I don't know. I mean, of course it's on here somewhere.

01:01:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, but let's just say it was a fuck I don't know. You guys were both first round picks. Like what you guys first year went eleven. Let's he made Let's just say you made ten million dollars like l S. You would have had this like the nil world would have had to compete with keeping him there.

01:02:13
Speaker 2: What let's receive seventeenth.

01:02:19
Speaker 1: Four year deal, four year rookie deal. So yeah, you would had to make like eight figures to stay at LSU.

01:02:23
Speaker 2: Probably wish.

01:02:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like, why not stay in college another year? He's not always looked old like that.

01:02:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, legit, when he saw him in college playing, you're like, oh, that's a five year old man. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the paper with the pictures as I am twelve.

01:02:42
Speaker 1: It's like when Rashawn Evans got to the league, Like Rashawan had a weird bald head.

01:02:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you guys, yeah he did. I'll tell you.

01:02:52
Speaker 1: He went to he went to high school Rub of Foston. Popped you in college, it was more than my family. It was my first guy back up. Yeah, but it was more than my first four years.

01:03:02
Speaker 3: A dog I mean here a dog dog kick off though, I really it doesn't fucking matter, Bro, it doesn't count.

01:03:07
Speaker 2: Yeah.

01:03:07
Speaker 1: Ruben Foster like late linked him Bro in college.

01:03:17
Speaker 2: No, dude, I don't. I'm wrong about no pause here. We're all about the no pause. Yeah. We don't let things ride around here. You know what I'm saying. Do it?

01:03:26
Speaker 3: I did it in my mind.

01:03:28
Speaker 2: Appreciate you for.

01:03:29
Speaker 3: Coming on, Bro.

01:03:31
Speaker 2: That was awesome.

01:03:32
Speaker 1: Hey, something about the running backs, Bro, Him and Melvin Gordon, Bro, I mean there's an argument

01:03:37
Speaker 2: About him versus H Derek, Him and Melvin

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