Dorit's C word stands for Camille: RHOBH recap

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality the King. It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and one of the most sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and tweeting about.

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Speaker 2: Hey, rain drops.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode of Reality with the King, We're not going to be using the C word unless it's Carlos, but we have to talk about this amazing episode of the Dureach. I'm sorry, I keep forgetting the name of the show. I keep calling it The Real derte of Billy Hills. Who is Diana Ross? Who is t bos Oooh Boss?

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Speaker 2: We got T Boss?

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Speaker 1: The lead singer TLC Beyonce, the lead singer Destiny Child.

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Speaker 2: She is the coach Shirtzing of, the lead singer of.

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Speaker 1: The Pussy Car Dolls. She is also the whole group Wilson Phillips. At this point, but any who, we have to talk about the latest episode of the Real House Spots of Beverley Hills.

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Speaker 2: And rain Drops.

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Speaker 1: I'm bringing on a new guest to recap this episode with me. I discover her on TikTok. Yes before he gets banned. I discover her on TikTok. Her name is Chloe. She's a beautiful black woman who gave this fuddy ass recap of Beverley Hills.

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Speaker 2: I hit the follow up button.

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Speaker 1: I called my assistant and I said, find me Chloe. I need to invite Chloe on the podcast. So you never know who's why you out there, TikTokers, So give it up for my special guest. Her name is Chloe and her TikTok name is Hot Bravo Takes. So ladies, gentlemen, and bay do a warm welcome.

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Speaker 3: We're clo.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I did not know you followed me from Beverly my Beverly Hills take. If anything, I thought that you found me for my new Jersey Takes. And I'm a little bit intense with that one love with that, but oh my gosh, I'm so excited to be on this podcast. I've been listening to you forever. I actually want to talk to you about this one episode you had about the Garashians with Blue Telousma and I you said you were going to do with this Chris Jenner recap or whatever, and I've been waiting for it for a whole year. Carlos, I'm pet.

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Speaker 1: Is it okay? So busy, you know with everything going on? To call Blue Telusma, who I love because she's my girl, and we need to do the decoding of Chris Jenner, so that will be coming up sales.

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Speaker 2: But thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy to recap Beverly Hills and listen, I want invite you back to recap Jersey because I'm also a little cuckoo when it comes to Jersey too, as we all know. But are you Teamalyssa or Team Teresa?

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Speaker 4: Who is team illusion in this day? And if they've ever really sat and watched the show? I mean, Teresa is the queen. Teresa doesn't need anyone for Cloud, she doesn't need anyone for a business venture. Teresa is doing her own thing. So I respect originality, I respect individuality. That's the kind of girl I am. I don't believe in coming behind people's backs and doing low down, grimy stuff. I believe in authenticity. And Teresa reminds me of one of my aunties. One Team Teresa, though I'll just say that we're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna buy a baseball cap that says black people for Theresa.

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Speaker 2: Because you and I we see each other.

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Speaker 1: We also love see is how the real House possor Billy Hills. This episode my love was so good. I just want to dive right into it. Chloe, we have to talk about because again my my recaps, I don't go over every single scene because who cares. I only want to talk about the ship that matters, okay, and that is how dree Kimsley is single handily the anchor, the force multiplier, the villain the most like. It's like a mock election in high school. I won class gossiper no shocker there. I also won most liked in the mock election, and I feel like I'm passing the torch to Derey, who was killer.

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Speaker 2: In this episode.

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Speaker 1: So, Chloe, what did you think about this episode of how Derie handled the girls, including I love her Camille Grammar.

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Speaker 4: It amazes me, It truly amazes me how Durite hasn't lost a single argument the entirety of this season thus far, and she's been in the center of literally everything, And it's so obvious to me that these women got together, and they're like, hey, we're gonna go against her this season because this girl is looking bad with the entire audience because now we've painted her as this microaggressive racist, whatever they want to call her. I'm truly like baffled by it. I'm mind blown. I know what you said about her and Lisa Renna getting together beforehand.

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Speaker 1: Wait okay, wait, wait wait girl, pause, but the calls. Hold on, I'm about to have a charity event here. Okay, I'm about to give dollars to what matters here, and that is the fact that you just cooked. So you're telling me that Deree is killing it better than Lisa Rena this season.

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Speaker 4: Correct, absolutely, because she does it in a likable way. Lisa Renna she lost herself in a moment because she was going after these girls. She was attacking them left and right, you know, in the worst way. It didn't make her likable. Meanwhile, Deree is the one being attacked right, but she's coming at them with that Lisa Renna fire, you know what I'm saying. So it makes it so much more. It's alluring. I don't know how else to describe it. I'm obsessed with her. I'm infatuated. She is everything to me. I love how she remembers every single thing that she says, okay, because it's a talent. I can't even remember what I ate this morning, and she's over here, like I didn't call you at.

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Speaker 1: It like the fact that Okay, let's let's let's let's go back a little bit, because at least something is trying, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Something is trying to make a moment happen.

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Speaker 1: We'll think about Bibley Hills and I'm just gonna say it, You're right what you said earlier. I feel like Biverley Hills is the only franchise where they decide that one girl is going to be in the hot seat for the entire season. It seems to be the makeup of that particular show. Right we're at in Atlanta. It depends on the episode, It depends on the on the dinner party, it depends on the on the trip Jersey, Let's be real, it's either Melissa, Teresa or Margaret, right like, depending on who's in the hot seat on Potomac, that's another show where it depends on who's going to be. But Beverly Hills, to me is always one girl, right, right, So Sutton is trying to do her job by conspiring against Dery gas lighting her. And I think it's so funny because when it comes to the gas lighting on the show, I spoke up about how I felt that Garcella was gas lighted a few seasons ago, and even something was trying to make the girls aware of how Garzilla's been gas lighted. But what's interesting is Sutton is the gas lighter, and no one is clocking her like the way she is trying to make it, the way she's trying to sell to Dere like I want to be here for you.

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Speaker 2: You do not. You want to stay on the show, which is fine.

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Speaker 1: You want to have a storyline because you don't have any the friendship we.

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Speaker 2: Have a Garcil.

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Speaker 1: I said this to Sutton and and and Garcil personally. I said, look, I apologize if it came across I was talking about you guys as human beings.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't. I merely spoke about the friendship. Right.

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Speaker 1: Sutton is trying to get a rise out of Deriy, and I'm going to call Deriy Pillsbury dough boy. I'm gonna I'm about to call her the Queen of yeast. Not the infection, but the way she rose. Okay, like the Doe brand the oven on Thanksgiving morning, Honey, on a nice Thursday Thanksgiving morning, Dread rose to the occasion like a good old yeast. Okay, and Sudden half flower blown up in her face. But talk to me about the gas lighting Sun is doing or if you don't feel that way.

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Speaker 4: No, I definitely do feel that way. What I don't understand about Sutton is why she always puts herself in these situations where she's going face to face with somebody.

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Speaker 2: Loses every time, and lose every time.

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Speaker 1: Check and says Erica J checked her ass at the dinner party at Kathy Hiper's house and said, well, shut the fuck up. Sutton has lost every argument known to man. She is literally the the losing lightweight champion of the Beverly Hills Boxing Arena.

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Speaker 2: But go ahead, girl, exactly.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand why she can put herself in these positions. Sudden, you are a confessional gangster. Stay as a confessional gangster period. You know it's not working for you. You get clocked every time you etther start crying or screaming, and the funniest part about the whole episodes when they're like, you're volatile, you know you're an overreactor. She's like no, I'm like, oh my god, one second didn't even it didn't even take one second, said half of a second for you to prove their exact point. You don't know what you're doing. I really don't know how you got on my show, But I don't know. Sutton triggers me in a weird way because I'm Southern and she's just the typical Southern manipulative kind of chick. And I hate to bring this up, but I have to bring it up. I don't understand how Garcel spent an entirety of last season saying how Theresa's microaggressive kind of person, when Sutton is like the worst of the worst when it comes to that, I don't see color. Yeah, you know in the after show at one point this season, Garcel and Bo's won the Kathy Hilton thing or whatever and they didn't get their prize, and Son was like, well, I would have taken you to be really heals the hotel, but you didn't choose me like that. That's micro aggressive, that's micro aggressive. Garcel just the case, you don't really understand what that means, because, by the way, you sign up for a show that's about attacking each other. Let's just call a spade a spade, that's what you signed up for. So I don't understand what you want this special treatment. But whatever, what I digress with that. But at the end of the day, Sudden is so microaggressive to Garcel's face. But we don't hear anything about that at all, because I won't say that's a microaggressive thing towards black people what she said to her with the Darby Hills Hotel. But I'll say it's a microaggressive thing towards someone of a lesser you know, class than you in a sense. And even though Garcela's a very like, she's well off, she's not hurting by any chance like. But at the end of the day, she's not Sudden, and Sudden basically said that to her face. It's ever Garcel, you know, did that choosing bows. But everything about the TJ what she literally she beat Dap down about being this microaggressive person, and then now this season she's attacking her every chance she gets, and dar can't say anything. She can't say anything like, oh my God, I feel attacked because you already put that narrative out there for the whole world to see, and I just want to let people know in my TikTok. In my TikTok, I said, garcel is upset that Dread's close with bos because it's getting close with Bose because now she can't pay her to be a racist. I don't want to clarify for you people.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying just because someone has a black friend that that you know, absolves them from racism.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that. Obviously, I know that's not the truth. I trust me, I've been there. But at the end of the day, Beverly Hills's audience is predominantly a Caucasian audience, and it's easy for black people to know and see, Hey, like, yeah, just because this person's best with black person doesn't mean they're not racist. They're still racist. They're still being this way or that way, that way. That Garcela isn't trying to cater to that audience. Garcela is trying to convince the white audience that this woman is racist because that is the majority of that's the majority of the viewership. So that's what I mean when I say that, I'm not saying that this absults Three from any fault, even though I don't think that she didn't be wrong last year. I'm gonna be honest because I think Three just sees everyone as everyone. She doesn't see color like oohlone.

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Speaker 1: I listen, Honey, I love a brave girl and a brave boy and a brave ay. So I appreciate your brave take, my sister. Okay, So, but let's get into something go back to the sun too, because some may argue this, and I want to get your take, Chloe, that because Sutton felt she was attacked by these girls two seasons.

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Speaker 2: Ago when Diana Jenkins was on the show.

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Speaker 1: Some people are arguing that Sutton doesn't like these girls and she doesn't trust them because the reason why she's going to jump in into everybody's business of conversation that doesn't involve her, it's because she wants to call everybody out who called her out two seasons ago when it was her against Diana Jenkins. Do you think it's fair for her to feel that way and make sense as to why she's behaving this way towards dark.

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Speaker 4: I'm so sorry, child, we are just getting started.

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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't follow because Diane Diana just blew me. Sorry, I'm not over.

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Speaker 1: Because you're like, Carlos bullshit, what are you trying to like cons miss me up?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: Okay. Some people are saying that Sutton.

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Speaker 1: Is getting in everyone's business this season, especially dread, because she felt that these girls two seasons ago did not have her back when it was her versus Diana. Remember that scene where it was Diana, Sutton and Kyle and Kyle was like, you know, According to Sutton, she felt that Ky was trying to like defend defend Diana. So a lot of people are saying, because you know, Sunn has fans, the Sudden fans are saying, no, these girls came from her two seasons ago when they did not have her back against Diana Jenkins, and therefore Sutton is going to make sure that every girl gives in the hot seat because they did not defend her.

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Speaker 4: Okay, First of all, Sudden's getting everyone's business because Sudden doesn't have a storyline, let's start there. Second of all, do they not know what kind of show that they're watching. This is Real Housewives. So in Real Housewives, what we do it's like an etch a sketch, you know. You know, we have a season, it's over. You move on to the next thing. You don't keep up with, like the Revenge of the Seasons when Diana Jenkins was on four score and five years ago. You know what I mean. I don't understand. I don't get it. They're reaching, but you know they have no they really don't have anything to like defend her with because Sutton's.

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Speaker 2: Way, Let's just be honest.

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Speaker 4: I don't find her likable. I think that she's very she's super emotional. She she never she has built her brand on just attacking and attacking and attacking whoever like her, and Garcela chooses for the moment. That's her brand. She I don't think she's ever had a storyline. And I'm not even the type of person that's like, oh, somebody is a storyline every season. No, you don't need a storyline every season. Sometimes you can just like be in the group and enjoy the group. But Sutton has never happened. How long has she been here at Carlos? You know, yeah, yeah, do you know anything about her. Besides she got like a pretty good lawyer feeling her divorce and she's which is funny.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, the only thing I know about Sutton is the fact that she gets three hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 2: Thousand dollars a month in alimony.

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Speaker 1: But that's it now, and then listen, I hope you can stay that way, girl. But again, we got to be honest here, and this is let's have a conversation.

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Speaker 2: I don't know anything about Sutton.

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Speaker 4: No, you know that she attacked Erica and everyone loved her for that. That's what we know, and that's what got her the fans that she has today, and they still on Erica's neck. I mean, and Erica. I'm liking Erica. Erica doesn't have a storyline the season, but she deserves a brain.

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Speaker 1: Let's be real, because she carried Erica carried two consecutive seasons, and and this is no shade, but let's let's have a real conversation.

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Speaker 2: Erica Jane exposed her life.

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Speaker 1: We knew that she had a son, we knew that she was a waitress when she met Tom.

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Speaker 2: We saw the fabulous life of her. We saw her with.

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Speaker 1: Her mom, we we saw her go back home in Georgia and got a slice of life of what her childhood was like.

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Speaker 2: In and again conversates with her mother.

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Speaker 1: She talks about her son being a cop and what that was like for her as a mother raising a son who you love. Obviously, Tom Gerardi changes your life. Your son is a cop and you got to worry every night in the phone rings. We know a lot about Erica, We know a lot about Dreed, we know a lot about Kyle, we know some things about Garcell, right, But when it comes to Sutton to your point, and I just thought about this, she doesn't have a storyline this season, but if we look at her start on the show, she never had one. And when I find some interesting about Bravo Twitter, and when I say Bravo Twitter, I've done me the verified account. I mean the fans of Housewives who are on Twitter, which represents two percent of the world. They pick and choose who to read. You know, they love to talk. They love to talk about Giselle Bryant not having a storyline, but Sutton is our fav So y'all move the gold post all the time. You know, My thing is this, If you want to attack one of the housewives verbally on Twitter. Okay, fine, it is what it is, but at least be fair. I don't understand for the life of me why they give Sutton a past I don't get it. But now you made me realize it's possibly because the same two percent of the world that represents Twitter, they did not like Erica, and when challenged her and lost, that's how she got I never realized that it's like Melissa Goorga. Melissa Gorga doesn't have fans, she has haters. So I think, well, I'm realizing, thank you the Sun half fans are Suns fans Erica Jane Hayters.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Claude, you keep talking. Girls keep their education.

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Speaker 4: That's actually why I started my TikTok account, because I realized these people aren't watching the show the same way that I'm watching this show. People I think I'm thinking of, like, Okay, what's production thinking, what's the psychology behind these women? What's going on? A lot of these people are looking at the show in a very surface level. So if Sutton says, hey, Erica stole from Orphans and Widows, They're like, yeah, she's still from It's like Okay, girl, okay, Like y'all don't even understand marital relationships. Let's start there. Actually, older man, older older older man, younger woman, what does she look like asking him about what's going on with the finances? Whenever he's funding the life like she doesn't, it makes sense. It's an abusive financial relationship. I never understood why she got so much hate and so much black I felt so bad for that woman.

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Speaker 1: I did too. I did too. I never understood the patrol that you don't ericaceive because to me, and again, this is me. And when I say this, I'm not trying to be mean.

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Speaker 2: Some not all. Some of the audience is.

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Speaker 1: Not smarter than an average fifth grader, right, because if you really look at the psychology of a relationship I just said earlier, Erica Jane was, I believe, in her twenties or thirties. Right when she met Tom, she was a waitress. He was a high powered attorney. Okay, he retired her, funded her lifestyle and her career, gave.

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Speaker 2: Her the means in order to have her dreams come true.

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Speaker 1: There is a sense of control there, right, And what people don't understand about relationships, control does not always mean physical control is financial. He financially controlled that relationship, right, He mentally controlled that relationship.

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Speaker 2: Because if you guys paid attention and my.

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Speaker 1: Danielle stop boys, pay attention please, you would have remembered the scene where it was Lisa Vander Pumpkin, Erica, Jane, Tom and some other people.

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Speaker 2: I think, oh, maybe it was a double date.

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Speaker 1: And Erica tried talking and Tom stopped her and said, Erica, I'm talking now, and she stopped talking and she got quiet. That showed you, Yeah, that showed you the controls that we met on her. So to think for a second, to think for a second that this woman knew about his transgressions, his alleged you know, listen, I like to be legally careful, his alleged scheme and scams in terms of what he did with the money.

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Speaker 2: Yes, to think she knew about it.

00:24:26
Speaker 1: To think that this man would tell her about it. You guys aren't that bright?

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Speaker 2: Okay? And yeah, it never made sense to me.

00:24:36
Speaker 1: So I've got you, Saton. Let's get into the Camill Grammar of at all.

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Speaker 2: Now. Look, I love Camill Grammar.

00:24:43
Speaker 1: I was obsessed with Camille Grammar season one. I love a self deprecating unaware the Lulu reality star, and Camille Grammar gave all of that her first season. She got read for philth and Camille said, I'm off this bitch.

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Speaker 2: I can't take it. And that's fine.

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Speaker 1: The way Duriy clopped her when she said, you are trying to have a moment, get into a Chloe girl.

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Speaker 4: Period, that's tea. I mean, because the whole time I was thinking, Okay, why did cop well, I know why Kyle invited Camille over there because she wanted to get her whack at Derey. She thought that Durik couldn't handle it for a moment. Kyle doesn't even really like Camille like that. We can tell that from the first thing that they were talking to each other. She's like, career, Camille, you have problems at my problems. That's basically what she said. And she's in her mind, the bank of her mind, regretting every inviting this girl. But she's like whatever, she's gonna get her whack at Deree, So I'm good. So they bose initiates this you know, tribe what she say, tribal group or whatever. I don't know what she said. So this happens and whole time, I'm thinking, what Camille there sitting there for free accused. I'm confused. So when Dury said you need a moment, why are you here? Why are you here? I'm like peeriing at Doury, I'm glad you said it. At the end of the day. And it's so funny the timing when Camille decided to chime in, because it was right after Bows was like, okay, well, Sudden, you're coming at her when she's at her lowest. You're going the lowest that you could ever go. And Sudden looked like the fear of God got installed instilled in her because at the end of the day, all of those women are scared of I hate to bring it up again, all those women are afraid to try the black woman in the group because Garcel instilled the fear of God in them after they saw what happened in Derry. Okay, this is why I don't like. I don't like unfair advantages. And Bose isn't even trying to play on that unfair advantage. But looking at Sudden space, as soon as bo started talking, I was like, dang, this woman is scary. She stopped talking and then That's when Camille went in and she's like, oh, you know, I didn't I lost my assistant, like Camell, Camelle, Cameille, Let's be serious. Let's be serious. You lost your assistance, your assistant in your house that you got insurance coverage. Bro, I couldn't even imagine that insurance payout. I can't even imagine it. So I don't care what you're talking about. At what point you're trying to make And I love how Kyle the entire time and it lets your girl, But I love how Kyle the entire time was just I was like, Kyle, you produced this like and I appreciate you. But at the end of the day, like I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I don't even think.

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Speaker 2: I think it's hilarious what you just outlined.

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Speaker 1: It's look, it's obvious production said we need some we can't continue this Kyle versus to read for another week. Let's see who else we could bring on. Because one thing that Beverly Hills does right that I do. I do like this is when they bring back some of the ogs. I love it, like I like when you see Camille or Urderam maloof you know what I mean.

00:28:22
Speaker 2: I love that.

00:28:23
Speaker 1: So I love you Camille, Camille, I love you down and we follow each other on Twitter, but.

00:28:30
Speaker 2: I know, but I gotta be honest to.

00:28:33
Speaker 4: Re clomp you.

00:28:34
Speaker 2: Camille.

00:28:36
Speaker 1: Camille has never met a camera to didn't like you, know, like Camille Grammar has never met a co aclan that didn't frame her profile. Camille likes the way a microphone feels on her body. Camille likes the way she gets to look through these girls if there's a camera pointing her left side, which is her best side. So Camille would show up to the opening of an envelope, Camil would show up to an opening of a Twinkie. Camil would show up to the opening of a Grand Marshall like she'll She'll do whatever it takes a good camera time. And I'm not mad at it. That's why I'm not I'm Camille, I'm.

00:29:20
Speaker 2: Not mad at it.

00:29:21
Speaker 1: Okay, but if you're gonna show up, you have to be prepared. And when Dereet Kimsley leaks and I'm calling her leaks because Derek gave me Niini leaks seasons one through four, she said five and she gave it back to some eight nine, ten, and eleven, and she.

00:29:38
Speaker 2: Gave it back twelve before she left the show.

00:29:40
Speaker 1: That was a Ninny Leaks read when she said, like you said, dress memory, she needs to be a brain surgeon because the way she's able to like remember things and and and go back to her memory brain and and resurface what she said when she said, like you said, I just called you the sea word. I called you a stupid sea word. And the gag on Camille's face. Camille looked like, I know a dozen of eggs, okay that you throw away after Eastern April.

00:30:21
Speaker 2: Like Camille's face was cracked.

00:30:24
Speaker 1: And in that moment, Chloe, I'm being real with you, and everybody knows I love me some copperatures and that will never change. In that moment, however, I sat back on my couch and I said, we are witnessing the birth of an iconic housewife who is going to take over the real housewives of Belly Hills. I have never I have never been impressed by a Belly Hills housewife who had the ability to stand up for herself since Ka Jane did it for those two honey.

00:31:04
Speaker 2: She could.

00:31:08
Speaker 4: Thanks she could. I've been I've been saying, I was like, wow, out of all the times that these women have ganged up and ganged up and ganged up, is the best to ever do it period, Even better than acause Erica. You know, her situation is a little bit more personal and like you know, it was more intense for her. But Dearie's the best to ever do it. She's the best ever handled this gang up. She hasn't lost a single like we said, she lost a single.

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Speaker 1: Call.

00:31:37
Speaker 4: I call Anngie k Mohammed Angie, but I need to find like a.

00:31:43
Speaker 1: The kik is an Angie k stand account. I call her Hurricane Angie. You call her Mohammed Angie. That's hilarious, but no, it is really is Jake Paul. She you know Jake Paul recently, you know beat up the iconic legend that is Mike Tyson. To read is the blonde bombshell who who? Who is taking out every woman that comes her way?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I wonder if Kyle actually notices what's happening right now that her show is being taken from her single handedly. Do you think she understands that or do you think that she's going over her head a little bit. I'm genuinely. I want to know your take, because bring Camille in like that, like maybe her last.

00:32:35
Speaker 1: Honest I think the reason why Kyle brought Camille is because she knew that I need somebody to like get her, because let's be clear, Camille is good at a read. I mean between Camille and fay Resnick, you know, yeah, like break faiths versus fate, so evolution, Alex Baskin, I'm thing you guys some free advice. Have fay Resnik read the funk out of de Reed because you may actually get somebody that can handle her because the rest of these girls are feeling miserably. To answer your question, Chloe, do I think Kyle realizes that Deuriy is becoming the star of the show and the show may be taken away from her. If I was a betting man, I think Kyle realizes now as of today, that Derey has taken over the show.

00:33:30
Speaker 2: And I don't think any of them saw it coming.

00:33:34
Speaker 1: I for sure know that Sutton nor Garsel saw the audience being on Dert's side. How do you think Sutton and Garsel are handling the fact that.

00:33:51
Speaker 2: The tide has turned, people.

00:33:53
Speaker 1: Are really leaving the island and going over Durret's you know, beachfront property.

00:34:02
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, yeah, I think they're crying in a corner. They're shaking in their boots, like because you know, at the end of the day, suddening Garcel play to the audience. Obviously. I definitely knew that for a fact when Garcel brought up pe K setting up, you know, the robbery of his family, and you know that was a conspiracy amongst super fans, right, So it's obvious that Garcel is reading comments constantly because no one in the general audience is talking about that. No one even thought about that until like Garcel made it a thing, like you know, kind of on the reunion, and then now she brings it up again, and she you know, doubles down on it to make sure they understand exactly what she said and what she meant. I think that they're worried. I really think that this whole Malibu beach house being finished should be Garcel's ending chapter, Like that's her slate and gretchen engagement moment to me, like we finally saw you start something and finish it. That's all we need from you. You're not really necessary for the show because I mean, am I wrong? What does she ring besides being her? And Sudden have their little gossips. I'm sorry, I know I'm all over the place, but I have to say this part I didn't suttain go from guys.

00:35:33
Speaker 3: We can't talk behind each other's backs, evenil S's Beverly Hills, and that's what we do when we do everything behind the camera. We can't talk behind each other's backs. However, you know, I'm gonna stay here with Garcel at her Malibu beach house with no beach, and I'm going to go ahead and talk about pee K setting up, you know, her robbery with Garselles.

00:35:57
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna check.

00:35:58
Speaker 3: Garsel though, I'm not gonna do that, and I'm gonna check all the rest off and I'm gonna check Erica.

00:36:04
Speaker 1: Chloe perst of aal, I can't take you, and then your accent is just even more fuddy or crazy.

00:36:12
Speaker 2: Oh oh, Chloe.

00:36:19
Speaker 1: Chloyd doesn't give a shit and again follow her onto how BRABO takes. So look, I'm gonna disagree with you about Garsell and hear me out, Chloe, hear me out.

00:36:29
Speaker 2: Okay, I think ourselves great for the show. I do I do now.

00:36:33
Speaker 1: Look now, look, I'm gonna be very honest with you because I don't lie. When garcill first got on the show, I was like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, right, an accomplished woman who is a staple on the black community.

00:36:44
Speaker 2: She's gorgeous.

00:36:46
Speaker 1: She we know her as Fancy from the Jamie Foxx Show, Like we love her, right and yes, So when she got on the show, I was like, yes, I enjoyed that she had a real friendship Realise Sarna. I love that whole Like oh nineties Hollywood, like Lisa Rena, Dennise Richards and Garcia were friends, you know, like three hot girls.

00:37:06
Speaker 2: I was.

00:37:06
Speaker 1: I was obsessed with that, and I love that Garcel to me at the time, she was sort of like the voice of reason when it came to like the pettiness of these girls, like Lisa Lorena was Lisa Listen. Lisa Lorena was a great villain. But to this day I disagree with how Lisa Renna handled Denise Richards, and I applauded Garcelfa calling out her friend like that shits fucked up, because it was fucked up. Now with that being said, I do think something happened in the middle. That happens with a lot of reality stars. They starts with the comments and they start to behave in a way to appease the audience. And I do think some of that happened. If I'm being honest, I would like Garcel to go back to being fair and not and not picking sides. I would like to see that the sun of Garcel thing. It is what it is, and I'm tired of talking about it. But I personally, and if I was Garcell's friend or producer, this is my vice to Garcel. I would love for Garcel to truly cultivate some friendships with other women outside of Sutton. Because the mistake that Sutton and Garcel are making, and you're hearing this for the first time, the mistakes that Sutton and Garcel are making right now is they have formed this friendship where they talk about everybody behind their backs and they're not trying to forge a real friendship with anybody, and they're coming across as people who talk about people behind their backs, and when they call them out, there's no real reason because what you said is true for sudden say, well, I just don't think we should talk about eachuck mahone back.

00:39:03
Speaker 2: We missfik.

00:39:04
Speaker 1: You just did it two hours ago, you did it twenty minutes ago, So what are you talking about?

00:39:08
Speaker 2: Like that's bullshit? Says that's not true.

00:39:12
Speaker 1: So I think the reason why the audience is now turning on Syn and garcell is because I think Sna Garcela got comfortable being the fan favorite instead of living in the moment.

00:39:26
Speaker 2: But Garcilla should stay.

00:39:27
Speaker 4: Though, absolutely, And okay, what do you think about that, Carlos? What blew me was last episode? Whenever Garcela and Sudden kind of you can tell that they talked beforehand and they're like.

00:39:48
Speaker 3: Okay, something's like okay, I'm won't talk to Drey, you don't talk to Kyle, and we gonna get together and we're gonna make a mess out of this.

00:39:56
Speaker 4: You know. Like it's like it's so obvious what they're doing and it's so sick into us. But Sudden thing keep up purpose hard for long enough. She's the worst Southern Bello I've ever seen in my entire life. Like, you're not even good at being fake, You're horrible. Now at least her role.

00:40:21
Speaker 1: You are hilarious because those shades some Southern belles are definitely they're known to smile on your face and talk about you behind your back, and that is exactly what sudden gifts.

00:40:32
Speaker 2: Okay, how did.

00:40:34
Speaker 1: You feel, though, Chloe about Garcel intimating and I want to be very close. She never said p K was involved in it, right, But Garcel did intimate that although she believes Dere had nothing to do with the robbery, she believes someone else did, which obviously, if it's not Derie, it has to be PK. Although Garcel did not say PK. So I want to make that very claire. But Piquet also took offense to it and responded on social media and said he says something along the lines of Garcel needing to state this in order to make money by staying on the show.

00:41:23
Speaker 2: What do you make of that? Was? Was Garcill wrong for saying that?

00:41:29
Speaker 4: Okay? I think Garcel was wrong for saying that because personally, I thought that that moment was her playing up to the super fans that are on social media. I genuinely don't think anyone else was thinking not or anything. I don't think that she should have said it because I genuinely don't think she actually believes that. I just think that she saw fan theories reading comments and she was like, hey, let me just say this for cheap pop. Cheap pop is like a it's like a wrestling term for like you know, when you say something that's like low down but like everyone knows about it and the audience just goes ah, like that's like pop. You know. I I didn't respect that moment, But you know, a moment I did respect with garcel was whenever she actually did stand up for Dury in that moment when she was getting her tattoo, and she was like, that's so weird that Kyle is talking about talking to PQU. That's so weird. It sounds like.

00:42:29
Speaker 2: That is weird that one. I think.

00:42:31
Speaker 1: I think it's weird, like if I wake up with my dude or we're separated or going through the doors, you can't talk to my ops, you can't talk to a former friend of my Bob was close to like, it's funny for you, Mauricea to have a frenticeship but to text Kyle and for y'all to talk.

00:42:48
Speaker 2: I agree with garcel one.

00:42:51
Speaker 4: There, and I like that she has enough, you know, integrity to even say that even though we abously no, she doesn't like to eat. The Sudden just.

00:43:02
Speaker 2: Doesn't have that exactly this into earlier.

00:43:06
Speaker 1: Okay, so Chloe, this is what p K said when he saw the sneak peek.

00:43:13
Speaker 3: Uh.

00:43:13
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00:43:52
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00:44:03
Speaker 2: I thought it was a good read.

00:44:10
Speaker 4: It's funny.

00:44:11
Speaker 2: No, it is funny, King Entertainment. Baby, there's something about that I don't like.

00:44:17
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is, but I mean it's t I don't agree with what she got.

00:44:28
Speaker 1: Back, but listen, p K and Dee are Body and Clyde when it comes to shade, they're good at it.

00:44:34
Speaker 2: I like Shade. I think it's funny Shade. Listen. I thought it was funny because he did not attack her as a woman.

00:44:39
Speaker 1: He did not attack her her as a mom.

00:44:43
Speaker 2: He can't you said what he.

00:44:47
Speaker 4: Oh my god, he just called her broke. Hey, gena A.

00:44:54
Speaker 2: Said leave her alone. That's why OC my girl.

00:45:00
Speaker 1: Now, like Gina said, I don't believe for a second that they were swinging.

00:45:09
Speaker 2: Let me just say this, oh fascinating, fascinating story that belongs to the.

00:45:17
Speaker 1: Channel, because you know that's that's more tlc ish. I don't think for a second they there were swingers. I don't think. I listen, Kyle and Derry both give me their very territorial when it comes to their men and the and the idea of sharing their men with each other.

00:45:39
Speaker 2: I don't see it. I I want to.

00:45:44
Speaker 1: Hundred percent, my heart of hearts believe that Dery only had eyes for p K and and and and I do believe that and I and I believe for a very long time Kyle had it for Mauricio. Now rather or not, those two men stepped out. They're not on my camera screen enough for me to to get that from them. But I do not at all get swingers from them at all. So so so you tick, but I'm not buying what you're selling.

00:46:22
Speaker 4: No, not at all. I honestly don't even see what Dree seasons love goggles. That's shocking. Yeah, I mean you don't think she has thus on? How is he denying her and making her look like a fool when she looks like that? He looks like that Chloe problematic?

00:46:44
Speaker 2: Ka's handsome? Oh well yeah he's not. Let's hodey.

00:46:58
Speaker 4: I think she's regretting.

00:47:00
Speaker 1: But we are going to see in next week's episode the Kyle versus derit again in the epic showdown that was featured in the super trailer. So look, I will say this. I give this episode a ten out of ten. Again, Dereed, if you're listening, remain this way. That's my only advice for dere You know you're obviously coming back next season.

00:47:30
Speaker 2: Remain this way.

00:47:31
Speaker 1: You're back to the woman I fell in love with your first season, and I do not want you to go back to being boring. I don't want that for yourself. I want you and Erica to be bosom buddies. I want that friendship to flourish. I believe that friendship. That friendship looks organic to me, and I would love to see a Deret Erica spinoff. I would love to see them doing anything together. I think it's so natural, how funny they are together.

00:48:05
Speaker 4: Can I just say this one thing, like, I genuinely don't think that Erica is on Kyle's side at all. I don't think Erica even likes Kyle. I just think that Erica respects Kyle as the center diamond, and that's just what's going on with that situation, so she has to tolerate the conversation when it comes to her. But I think dere is genuinely her friend and I'm loving the dream team of both Erica. Every time goes through on my screen, I'm feeling it. And when Erica told her, you just need to stay who you are in your greatness, you know, don't soften your sharp I don't know something deep, I.

00:48:40
Speaker 2: Was like, oh noo, I mean I say this every week. Bowse is one of the best casting additions.

00:48:51
Speaker 1: She's She's a ten out of a ten, natural, organic, not picking side, listening, being herself, and I'm into it. I'm just I'm into her. I think she's great. So Bows, keep doing what you're doing.

00:49:08
Speaker 2: Girl. You have a fan on Reality with the King and on Hot Bravo takes.

00:49:16
Speaker 4: Yes, most impressive woman we've seen walk through the Bravo I say my.

00:49:21
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00:49:41
Speaker 4: All Right, you guys can find me at hot Bravo, takes, on TikTok, Instagram, and Twitter, and I also go live every Sunday on TikTok, and I do a recipe from Teresa's Fabulous's cookbook. I attempt to because I'm not the best cook. You know, all fresh ingredients, no added preservatives or stuff that will kill you, like a certain brand that's out nowadays.

00:50:05
Speaker 2: And yes, follow her, guys, I just thought of following her.

00:50:10
Speaker 1: She makes me laugh because as we as I talk about reality starts being herself.

00:50:15
Speaker 2: Chloe is herself and she you guys, are like me.

00:50:19
Speaker 1: You like when people don't have a a popular take for the sake of just wanting to be a part of like the popularity of people having the same thoughts. She has her own mind, She speaks her mind, and you can also agree to disagree with her if you want to. Like. That's the beauty of how the Bravo takes so Rain draws. Please follow and support Chloe. She's great, she's new to the to the team, and I'm looking forward to bringing you back to talk Jersey. I'm ready, all right, Chloe. Thank you so much, my love, and I will see you so Thank you for listening to Reality with the King. New episodes drop on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Share, comment, follow, and subscribe to Reality with the King. Wherever you get your podcast, visit realitywthe King dot com and be sure to follow me at the Carlos King Underscore on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok and Yes Baby my YouTube channel where you could get all of my visuals, baby, my expressions, Yes, and don't forget Tweet me your thoughts and hot takes about this episode using the hashtag Reality with the King. Reality with the King is a production of Kingdom Reign Entertainment, an executive produced by Me, Carlos King, Kingdom Rain Entertainment, Baby