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<v Speaker 1>He'll be Gon'll be beer. It's the Internet. You're busy.
<v Speaker 1>Let's do this for November thirteenth, twenty twenty four. For
<v Speaker 1>the next hour or so, let me help you sort
<v Speaker 1>through the world of gaming on gamess Mornings Live with
<v Speaker 1>Me Jeff Grubb Today, fans should expect a new PlayStation
<v Speaker 1>showcase before the end of the year, and does Phil
<v Speaker 1>Spencer think the new next Haylo could release on PlayStation five?
<v Speaker 1>Will answer both of those and more, But first please
<v Speaker 1>join me and welcome you today's co host in Game
<v Speaker 1>or two Gameless Mornings, It's Lucy James. Everybody, Lucy, how
<v Speaker 1>are you feeling.
<v Speaker 2>Uh, broadly fine? In spite of in spite of factors.
<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, we're hanging in there, right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hanging in the I've gone through very sad couple
<v Speaker 2>of weeks. Not to bring the tone down at the
<v Speaker 2>beginning of the show, but it's been of our emotionally
<v Speaker 2>fraught a couple of weeks over here, and James Towers
<v Speaker 2>and so on the the on the on the other
<v Speaker 2>side of it, kind of excited to be hanging out
<v Speaker 2>with you guys again and like doing like looking forward
<v Speaker 2>to TGAs and seeing my pals in person and you.
<v Speaker 1>Know, yeah, we got going through it. We have some
<v Speaker 1>like light, you know, some light at the end of
<v Speaker 1>the tunnel, right, we get to do some fun stuff still.
<v Speaker 2>So well, I think you're about to say we have
<v Speaker 2>some light things going on at the game wards and
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Jeff, that could not be further from
<v Speaker 2>the truth. We have so much going on.
<v Speaker 1>Je pretty busy. Yeah, but but we're we definitely have
<v Speaker 1>reasons to uh like okay, well things that like can
<v Speaker 1>distract us from all this other stuff for sure. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>but it's a uh, you know, like you said, been rough,
<v Speaker 1>but uh, whenever we get to do this show, I
<v Speaker 1>was feel a little bit better. So you're right, that's nice. Uh,
<v Speaker 1>there's some video game news to talk about it at
<v Speaker 1>the very least.
<v Speaker 2>So there is a lot of video game news to
<v Speaker 2>talk about, which is because it feels like there was
<v Speaker 2>sort of a bit of a fallow period of like
<v Speaker 2>not really munch of beak shit happen.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we we do the you know, we do the
<v Speaker 1>Wednesday show together and uh and for a while there
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh yeah, that's usually when a lot of
<v Speaker 1>the news was happening. And then these past like a
<v Speaker 1>couple of months, it was I think a lot of
<v Speaker 1>these companies were, uh kind of I don't know. It
<v Speaker 1>seems like they were taking a break from announcing stuff
<v Speaker 1>and having things to talk about. And now does feel
<v Speaker 1>like maybe we're back getting into the holidays. Uh, and
<v Speaker 1>you know, play Station five pro is here and Nintendo's
<v Speaker 1>got to start making moves and uh in election is over,
<v Speaker 1>so it feels like this.
<v Speaker 2>Xbox is talking about ship.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, yeah, for Sports is doing interviews again. So yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's that's uh, there are things are happening.
<v Speaker 2>So things are happening.
<v Speaker 1>We'll get into all that first. Let's explain what we
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<v Speaker 1>lot to get into, so let's start the morning mess
<v Speaker 1>with that first story I alluded to. This is from
<v Speaker 1>Ethan Gotcha Kotaku. Is Sony teasing a December PlayStation showcase
<v Speaker 1>in its latest PS five ad. That's definitely some of
<v Speaker 1>the things that some fans are talking about on places
<v Speaker 1>like Reddit. Let's read what Ethan wrote here. Sony released
<v Speaker 1>a new play has No Limits ad for PlayStation five
<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday to mark four years since its twenty twenty
<v Speaker 1>launch of the PS five. No one would have thought
<v Speaker 1>twice about it, except that fans spotted a seemingly innocent
<v Speaker 1>but potentially telling split second reference to a December date.
<v Speaker 1>Could Sony have an eleventh hour PlayStation showcase plan to
<v Speaker 1>coincide with this thirtieth anniversary. The discovery was shared on
<v Speaker 1>Reddit and points to the forty seven second mark. In
<v Speaker 1>a u T video that has this ad, a train
<v Speaker 1>station schedule appears with the numbers three, twelve and then
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four. As the mbound column turns into PlayStation symbols,
<v Speaker 1>that will be the third of December. They're not March twelfth.
<v Speaker 1>The inbound columns turn to the PlayStation symbols. Some fans
<v Speaker 1>wonder if it meant a hint at a potential December third,
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four event, perhaps one last state of play
<v Speaker 1>or bigger livestream event pointing to what's ahead for the
<v Speaker 1>PS five. It's a reach, but there are a couple
<v Speaker 1>of things that make it feel within the realm of possibility. First,
<v Speaker 1>commenters have noted that there is precedent for Sony holding
<v Speaker 1>December events. Once upon a time, during the PS four generation,
<v Speaker 1>it hosted fan oriented PlayStation experience events. Those were fun.
<v Speaker 1>I went to a couple. That was a good time.
<v Speaker 1>And while those were retired many years ago at this point,
<v Speaker 1>Sony did hold a special December State of Play in
<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen to mark the twenty fifth anniversary of PlayStation.
<v Speaker 1>It included announcements of Resident Evil three remake, Kingdom Hearts
<v Speaker 1>three DLC, and a Ghost of Sushimatise. This December, meanwhile,
<v Speaker 1>marks the thirtieth anniversary. So while to reach this is
<v Speaker 1>kind of why people are lucy are coming to this,
<v Speaker 1>maybe the possibility that this could be happening now, you know,
<v Speaker 1>I did look into this, but kind of like we'll
<v Speaker 1>get your first like blush of this. Does that sound
<v Speaker 1>reasonable or does it sound like maybe people are kind
<v Speaker 1>of get some opium going feel.
<v Speaker 2>A little hopium. It feels to me like maybe PlayStation
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It feels weird to do it so
<v Speaker 2>close to the Game.
<v Speaker 1>Awards, right, That is a you know, twenty nineteen is
<v Speaker 1>when they're saying, the last time something like this happened,
<v Speaker 1>the game words were there, but the Game Awards is
<v Speaker 1>bigger than ever, and yeah, sort of a known factor,
<v Speaker 1>a much more known factor at this point, where it's like,
<v Speaker 1>if you have something to talk about, it's right there
<v Speaker 1>and it's going to have just as many views and
<v Speaker 1>be able to speak to audience. Is actually beyond what
<v Speaker 1>even your PlayStation directs can do. A place that stayed
<v Speaker 1>to place, I should say, or PlayStation showcase. Now, when
<v Speaker 1>I say PlayStation State of Player showcase, I always forget
<v Speaker 1>a lot of interchangeable Yeah, people they yeah, but really
<v Speaker 1>the state of plays are the smaller direct like things.
<v Speaker 1>And then they've done showcases that are supposed to be
<v Speaker 1>in many people's estimation closer to something like the Big
<v Speaker 1>E three Blowouts that has all this different stuff in there,
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of times it does get used interchangeably.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm trying to think, like what else they could do,
<v Speaker 2>I mean thirtieth anniversary, Like they announced that concert thing
<v Speaker 2>for next year. We already had like a reveal for
<v Speaker 2>Ghost of Yota.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think it's it's it's worth, it's worth
<v Speaker 1>thinking about what else it could because when when I
<v Speaker 1>did ask about this, a couple of sources were very
<v Speaker 1>close to sure, but not like close to sure that
<v Speaker 1>this is not a state of play or or a
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation showcase.
<v Speaker 2>This feels like the time to do for thirtieth anniversary.
<v Speaker 2>This feels like the time to do a celebration something.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Rather yeah, these infographics. This is so many times the
<v Speaker 2>cross button has been pressed in the last thirty years,
<v Speaker 2>or some ship.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a series of bigger blog posts, Yeah, something along
<v Speaker 1>those lines.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're still working on PSVR two promise.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so yeah, I wouldn't expect to show a showcase,
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't expect to stay to play. If those things were happening,
<v Speaker 1>these people probably would have heard about it. So yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it is. This probably takes the form of we will
<v Speaker 1>maybe have some some Twitter announcements, a YouTube video that
<v Speaker 1>talks about, you know, the history of PlayStation March March exactly. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that sounds right to me. You know, they have already
<v Speaker 1>celebrated the thirtieth anniversary in some ways with the you know,
<v Speaker 1>the PS five special Edition that they sold and things
<v Speaker 1>like that, and they had a special controller, the you know,
<v Speaker 1>the great paint on the PlayStation five products that I
<v Speaker 1>was so excited about and then couldn't get.
<v Speaker 2>Oh you tried.
<v Speaker 1>I definitely tried. Yeah, yeah I was. I was there
<v Speaker 1>and then I like, I got in the queue and
<v Speaker 1>the virtual Q thing and it was like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna place you in randomly, and it's like, I
<v Speaker 1>don't think this is random you that's yeah. So yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I would like to see a state of play. I
<v Speaker 1>would like to see a showcase from PlayStation. I think
<v Speaker 1>a lot of PlayStation five owners are at a point
<v Speaker 1>where it's like, okay, yeah, we had We've had a
<v Speaker 1>couple of of of like things where they would stop
<v Speaker 1>and do a state of play and they announced Ghost
<v Speaker 1>of Yokah. That did happen, and that was nice. But
<v Speaker 1>it also feels like there's a lot of studios inside
<v Speaker 1>of PlayStation who we don't know what they're working on,
<v Speaker 1>and they're probably pretty close to being ready to at
<v Speaker 1>least show something, right Sony, Santa Monica, things like that.
<v Speaker 1>So when do if it's not in December, Lucy, Like,
<v Speaker 1>do we get like a showcase earlier next or you know,
<v Speaker 1>maybe a stay to Play earlier next year, or maybe
<v Speaker 1>do we get something close to an E three style
<v Speaker 1>showcase next summer?
<v Speaker 2>I wonder. I mean, at this point, PlayStation is desperately
<v Speaker 2>needs stuff on the calendar, and I think the best
<v Speaker 2>way to do that would be this big, all out showcase,
<v Speaker 2>like bring back the E three twenty fifteen style of showcase,
<v Speaker 2>that one, the one will forever go down in history.
<v Speaker 2>I think PlayStation kind of needs that moment. I think
<v Speaker 2>gaming in general needs that moment. Like you've got the
<v Speaker 2>launch of the PS five Pro. That's going fine, but
<v Speaker 2>for a lot of people like me who are on
<v Speaker 2>the fence about getting one, it's like, well, what games?
<v Speaker 2>What games am I getting this for? You know, if
<v Speaker 2>you are giving me, especially because I guess exactly, oh no,
<v Speaker 2>because everything else I'm on PC?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, right, monster I'm looking at Monster Hunter been like,
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, I'm sure it's gonna run better on PS
<v Speaker 1>five Pro playing that on PC, thank you?
<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing where I'm like, I want to
<v Speaker 2>be excited about PlayStation exclusive so I can reinvest in
<v Speaker 2>the PlayStation ecosystem. And other than Ghost what we got,
<v Speaker 2>what we got for twenty twenty five and beyond, you know,
<v Speaker 2>like there's nothing really to be excited about that other
<v Speaker 2>than Hey, we know that Santa Monica is working on something.
<v Speaker 2>We know that Bend is working on something. We know that,
<v Speaker 2>like you know, all the studios that are under the
<v Speaker 2>stable are working on something.
<v Speaker 1>But what right we have yeah, like Blue Blue Point right,
<v Speaker 1>they we've known for a while that they're working on
<v Speaker 1>a new IP and it's probably a big single player thing.
<v Speaker 1>That's been years since they put out that they did.
<v Speaker 2>Shadow Shadow was well, like well, Demon Souls was twenty twenty.
<v Speaker 2>Shadow Shadow was twenty like eighteen, I think seventeen.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's they probably had something working in parallel
<v Speaker 1>alongside Demon Souls. So we're talking like, you know, four
<v Speaker 1>or five years of development. So you know, I don't
<v Speaker 1>know that. I don't know if that means a game
<v Speaker 1>is ready but maybe ready to show here pretty soon.
<v Speaker 1>You know. Gorilla, we know that Gorilla actually is busy.
<v Speaker 1>Like last that we heard it was busy working on
<v Speaker 1>the multiplayer Horizon game. So that's going to probably be
<v Speaker 1>in a weird spot because of all the live service
<v Speaker 1>problems and uh and the fact that's probably gonna take
<v Speaker 1>a long time itself. You know, Housemark that they you know,
<v Speaker 1>they'll probably have something new. They'll probably have returnal too
<v Speaker 1>to talk about at some point, something along those lines.
<v Speaker 2>Uh.
<v Speaker 1>You know, Insomniac, we we get what's happening there. And
<v Speaker 1>Sony Santa Monica, Corey Barlock's game is you know, supposed
<v Speaker 1>to be very deep into the into development. That's another
<v Speaker 1>one that feels like they could talk about. Now. I
<v Speaker 1>get why they haven't taught like pro made these promises
<v Speaker 1>where it's because it's it's we're at a point in
<v Speaker 1>game development where these games take so long. That's stopping
<v Speaker 1>to make an asset for a revealed trailer for a day,
<v Speaker 1>for something to play at a showcase, you know, show
<v Speaker 1>for if you show up at something like that, that
<v Speaker 1>takes a lot of effort and resources away from the
<v Speaker 1>main project. And so wait until you're really ready and
<v Speaker 1>then just have something that is easier to produce at
<v Speaker 1>that point, because you have a game that is mostly finished,
<v Speaker 1>it seems like that's the strategy that Sony is going
<v Speaker 1>with at the moment. I get that, and I think
<v Speaker 1>that's probably the right choice. But you know, people, I think,
<v Speaker 1>even despite Ghost of Yota getting announced, feeling a little
<v Speaker 1>bit antsy about the state of PlayStation first Party, especially
<v Speaker 1>coming off of Concord and all the promises of what
<v Speaker 1>was going to happen with live service. It's like, is
<v Speaker 1>the reason that so many of these studios that people
<v Speaker 1>have come to rely on to deliver these massive cinematic
<v Speaker 1>experiences is because they got caught up in this distraction
<v Speaker 1>that turned out to be live service games.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, who's to say that could be a
<v Speaker 2>multiple council project because what is it, like Sony Green
<v Speaker 2>at twelve or something of them and then get to.
<v Speaker 1>The number bloomed up to twelve at some point, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and then they's definitely not there anymore.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And so I don't know. But also, you know,
<v Speaker 2>we talk about this all the time. Games take longer
<v Speaker 2>to make them more expensive than ever. The team sizes
<v Speaker 2>are out of control, right, Yeah, I'm just I'm just
<v Speaker 2>like this this generation has been so so weird. For
<v Speaker 2>all the hype that we had going into this generation.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think we were really. I mean, I think
<v Speaker 2>Sean Layden was, but like, I don't think we were
<v Speaker 2>as consumers prepared for just the gap between releases in
<v Speaker 2>such a way like there are always, of course, amazing
<v Speaker 2>games coming out every single day. Steam is absolutely full
<v Speaker 2>of them, but like those big tentpole releases, Yeah don't.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think we were because like and also obviously
<v Speaker 2>Covid impacted a lot. So yeah, this has just been
<v Speaker 2>a very weird generation and like I'm hoping for the
<v Speaker 2>latter half of it we sort of get back on
<v Speaker 2>track and have those big games to justify having a machine,
<v Speaker 2>but to enjoy on our little boxes underneath our TVs.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it is strange, just like look at the
<v Speaker 1>trajectory of it all of uh, you know PS three
<v Speaker 1>what excuse me? We got several Uncharted games from Naughty Dog,
<v Speaker 1>and then Last of Us, right, and then on PS
<v Speaker 1>four we got Uncharted four and Last Us Part two
<v Speaker 1>and then some you know, relatively big expansions for games
<v Speaker 1>like that. Yeah. Yeah, and then and then this generation
<v Speaker 1>like for like it was like just sticking a Naughty Dog.
<v Speaker 1>It was like nothing original so far, and we might
<v Speaker 1>get to the end of the generation, maybe get one
<v Speaker 1>thing from them and uh that level of output. While
<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, we get it, the games are getting bigger,
<v Speaker 1>you're right, we I don't think we were mentally prepared
<v Speaker 1>for the like it would be that drastic, that fast
<v Speaker 1>from one generation to the next. We were getting such
<v Speaker 1>a reduced return on the investment we were making out
<v Speaker 1>the console from these studios that just you know, two
<v Speaker 1>generations ago, we're producing three to five games in one
<v Speaker 1>generation and three games in one franchise on in one generation.
<v Speaker 1>And it's like that felt like the sweet spot. And
<v Speaker 1>because games have gotten so big and require so many people,
<v Speaker 1>now that's just impossible. But it's okay, how do we
<v Speaker 1>return to that a little bit? And you know, I
<v Speaker 1>think some studios Insomniac have clearly been able to make
<v Speaker 1>that work for the most part, but it's not been
<v Speaker 1>a thing for everybody. All right, let's keep moving here,
<v Speaker 1>Just a quick PSA. Sony is ending adapter that makes
<v Speaker 1>PSVR work on PS five. This is from Andy Robinson
<v Speaker 1>at VGC. Sony Interactive Entertainment has confirmed that it will
<v Speaker 1>soon stop supplying a PlayStation five adapter that allows the
<v Speaker 1>original PlayStation VR headset to work on the console. In
<v Speaker 1>order for PS five owners to get the original PSVR
<v Speaker 1>headset to work on the console, they need to request
<v Speaker 1>a free adapter for the PlayStation camera, which is the
<v Speaker 1>only method of support since PS five's HD camera does
<v Speaker 1>not support the old headset. I have one of these things.
<v Speaker 1>I might have to request another on because I have
<v Speaker 1>no idea where it is. And there's just a couple
<v Speaker 1>of PSVR games that I want to replay, but sometime
<v Speaker 1>like I never played and I always think about going back.
<v Speaker 1>There's this one where you hold the PlayStation dual Shock
<v Speaker 1>for whatever it is, and you can see it in
<v Speaker 1>the game, but as you press the buttons, it's like
<v Speaker 1>it or actually what you see is like a handcuffs
<v Speaker 1>wrapped around you, and as you press the buttons, you
<v Speaker 1>have different interactions with the handcuffs that are on you,
<v Speaker 1>and it's like you can try to figure out ways
<v Speaker 1>to release your hands from this contraption. And I'm like,
<v Speaker 1>I always wanted to play that and I never did,
<v Speaker 1>so I'm like, I want to make this happen, but
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm not taking this as a larger sign,
<v Speaker 1>Lucy that Sony is leaving behind VR in general. But
<v Speaker 1>this is also like the kind of thing where it's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>this was going to happen eventually. And also PSVR two
<v Speaker 1>is not some major pillar for Sony at the moment, right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it a suddenly doesn't feel that way.
<v Speaker 2>I might be risk remembering, but I don't remember the
<v Speaker 2>last time like we had like a big showcase that
<v Speaker 2>featured PSVR two. Those obviously the closure of the London
<v Speaker 2>studio V are in general kind of a weird, weird spot.
<v Speaker 2>METSA is the only real uh posting in the game
<v Speaker 2>at the moment, at least, I mean in recent that's
<v Speaker 2>you know, bias, I'm recency biased with Batman.
<v Speaker 1>But like, but I mean like Apple did uh you
<v Speaker 1>know the the what I forget the heads it's even
<v Speaker 1>called now and that thing. That thing's done?
<v Speaker 2>But did they yeah is it? Is it done done?
<v Speaker 2>Did they finish with that?
<v Speaker 1>I mean it sounds like so like Eric Apple was, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it sounds done done. Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like you can't charge three thousand thank you,
<v Speaker 2>Dan Vision, Yeah, it can sound like three thousand dollars
<v Speaker 2>for a bloody headset. And then wonder why no one
<v Speaker 2>buys it.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, it's clearly like it was just like h and
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't sound like they're going to necessarily followed up
<v Speaker 1>quickly with something that is more consumer friendly in terms
<v Speaker 1>of price. So yeah, yeah, but real quick, doctor Ryan,
<v Speaker 1>thank you. The game I was talking about was called Static,
<v Speaker 1>he says it rules. I tried it at like a
<v Speaker 1>I demoed it at some event, and I was always
<v Speaker 1>meant to play it. I thought the developers were very
<v Speaker 1>had something very cool, so maybe I'll get that up
<v Speaker 1>and running. We've been we keep talking about doing a
<v Speaker 1>new rodeo, and I would like to break that out.
<v Speaker 1>I never finished Astro for VR Astro's Escape or whatever
<v Speaker 1>it's called.
<v Speaker 2>Did you ever play the Resident Evil seven VR demo?
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm a coward, No one tell him? Please play it.
<v Speaker 1>It's that sounds like literally the rescue Mission. Thank you.
<v Speaker 1>That sounds like literally the scariest thing in the world.
<v Speaker 2>I would be, well, it's just because when you said
<v Speaker 2>that you were handcuffed. It's what reminded me.
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, so that's great. That's when that's what I
<v Speaker 1>would want to have happen in that situation. I should
<v Speaker 1>I should do that. I know people swear by Resident
<v Speaker 1>Evil seven and VR. I remember Martin McDonald over at
<v Speaker 1>eighty four talking about it and being like, I would
<v Speaker 1>play it, turn off all the lights and it would
<v Speaker 1>be nighttime and playing out like that just sounds petrifying
<v Speaker 1>to me.
<v Speaker 2>John John Luke played the whole thing in VR. But no,
<v Speaker 2>this is this was I think a standalone demo. I
<v Speaker 2>think it was called it was it Kitchen one. I
<v Speaker 2>can't remember what it was called, but I remember we
<v Speaker 2>had a guy who used to work with us. He
<v Speaker 2>went and like tam filmed him and he basically just
<v Speaker 2>went like the.
<v Speaker 1>Whole time, would I'll put it? I should put on
<v Speaker 1>a heart monitor and do that, and that.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you should, or even just like an
<v Speaker 2>Apple Watch if you want. I'm I'm like heaving my
<v Speaker 2>way through Batman because I have a bad VR tolerance.
<v Speaker 1>But you're still trying to do it though.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm doing like ten minutes ago. So I stopped
<v Speaker 2>before I get like, right, I get a little bit uneven,
<v Speaker 2>but then.
<v Speaker 1>It's worth it because you're having fun with the game.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's really good. Yeah, it's really good.
<v Speaker 1>That's That's one of the things we want to do
<v Speaker 1>in the far adio.
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna it's like it's a fucking Batman game. It's
<v Speaker 2>like they've they nailed it.
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna maybe we can fit it in sometime this
<v Speaker 1>week because I want to get in the Batman costume
<v Speaker 1>and play it.
<v Speaker 2>I think you showed. Yeah, it's just and it's like
<v Speaker 2>my first experience other than like the only thing I
<v Speaker 2>can plain VRS Beat Saber, So it's nice to.
<v Speaker 1>Sure, Yeah, that be Saper's very good though. All right,
<v Speaker 1>let's kind of in the sony section here. Secret Level
<v Speaker 1>creator says he hopes the Concord episode will show the
<v Speaker 1>potential the story had. This is from Chris Scullion at VGC,
<v Speaker 1>the creator of Prime Videos. Upcoming video game anthology, Secret Level,
<v Speaker 1>says he hopes the Concord episode will show the potential
<v Speaker 1>that the game had. Secret Level, which was announced during
<v Speaker 1>Games Comm's opening Night Live presentation this year, is a
<v Speaker 1>new adult animated anthology series featuring original stories set within
<v Speaker 1>worlds of various video game franchises. There are fifteen episodes
<v Speaker 1>in total, including stories set in the worlds of such
<v Speaker 1>video games as Pac Man, Armored Core, Mega Man, Splunky,
<v Speaker 1>The Outer Worlds Two, Seafu, Unreal Tournament, and Exodus Now.
<v Speaker 1>In an interview with Rolling Stone, series creator Tim Miller
<v Speaker 1>said there were never any plans to remove the Concord
<v Speaker 1>episode following the game's disastrous launch and Sony's decision to
<v Speaker 1>remove it from sale after just eleven days. Miller, who
<v Speaker 1>directed Deadpool and Terminator, the Dark Fate, and Love Death
<v Speaker 1>and Robots, said that during the course of the three
<v Speaker 1>years he spent working on the series, he enjoyed a
<v Speaker 1>healthy relationship with the team at Concord developer Firewalk and
<v Speaker 1>feels bad that their efforts ended badly. He said, basically
<v Speaker 1>goes on just like I said. They were very nice to
<v Speaker 1>work with and he just wants to do right by them.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, sorry, I just had to google which one
<v Speaker 2>was Terminate A Dark Fate?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Which which one? Is that one?
<v Speaker 2>The bad one, I mean, the really bad one. It
<v Speaker 2>is the one with the twenty nineteen the one.
<v Speaker 1>With not Christian bed Right, No.
<v Speaker 2>Sarah Khana comes back, has the weird deep faked ed furlong.
<v Speaker 1>Oh right, jesus, I listen. I think he did fine
<v Speaker 1>on Deadpool, but uh look, I think Secret looks good.
<v Speaker 1>I think it looks very interesting. I will I will
<v Speaker 1>watch excuse me, I'll watch some of this. I don't
<v Speaker 1>know if I'll watch all fifteen episodes. I don't even
<v Speaker 1>know if i'll watch the Concord. One part of me
<v Speaker 1>feels more of the curious to watch that, so I
<v Speaker 1>probably will. But but yeah, I mean, this what choice
<v Speaker 1>they have. They made this episode, they're not gonna not
<v Speaker 1>air it and like do right by the people that
<v Speaker 1>worked on the television show. So yeah, I'm do you
<v Speaker 1>think we get like on the other side of this,
<v Speaker 1>and maybe maybe not like right away, but maybe a
<v Speaker 1>few years removed, and people feel like, man, I wish
<v Speaker 1>I wish we would have like given Concord a chance,
<v Speaker 1>Like people are gonna that could become a thing.
<v Speaker 2>People say, right, there'll be a YouTube video essay, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>given Concorde a second chance, or like, yeah, the decline
<v Speaker 2>of Concorde or something. I mean, I don't know, like
<v Speaker 2>maybe with the rose tinted goggles on it, and it's like,
<v Speaker 2>I don't I just don't think Conclode's coming back like
<v Speaker 2>Firewalk has gone on that.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I really I really don't see how much impact secret
<v Speaker 2>level can have on reigniting and bringing.
<v Speaker 1>That right good one.
<v Speaker 2>However, I think I think it is I think it's
<v Speaker 2>good that they are still airing it, and I think
<v Speaker 2>it's yeah, like you said, it's less like this is
<v Speaker 2>what you could have had. It's more just like, hey,
<v Speaker 2>here's something that we thought was really cool, multiple people
<v Speaker 2>worked for multiple years on. You should still be able
<v Speaker 2>to watch it, because yeah, like that what was it
<v Speaker 2>the Coyote versus Acme movie that Warner Brothers just shelved,
<v Speaker 2>and like back Girl About Woman, which one which I think, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>And so I would rather we got the chance to
<v Speaker 2>watch something rather than it just like live in a
<v Speaker 2>Vault where.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. It's like you know this, these these episodes
<v Speaker 1>were never going to go out to the theater, so
<v Speaker 1>it was never like this considered like the you know,
<v Speaker 1>box office versus a tax break if we just put
<v Speaker 1>it on a shelf somewhere. But yeah, maybe they there's
<v Speaker 1>a chance. It's like, oh that would be weird. We
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be associated with failure. And it's like,
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad they're not going that route. Yeah, I will
<v Speaker 1>show up at least for the first episode, and then
<v Speaker 1>I'll probably like watch the Mega Man stuff and things
<v Speaker 1>that are that might be appeal to me.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I just it depends
<v Speaker 2>on what they do with my I guess, like, I'm
<v Speaker 2>not really interested in Hacman, but I'll watch it. Maybe
<v Speaker 2>we'll do something cool with him.
<v Speaker 1>All Right, Abini going going to take a quick break.
<v Speaker 1>When we come back. Stellar Blade's coming to PC. Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>talked about more two D Zelda. We'll talk about all
<v Speaker 1>that after this. I'm all right, thanks for hanging with us.
<v Speaker 1>Let's get back into it. Stellar Blade is coming to
<v Speaker 1>PC in twenty twenty five. This is from Sal Ramano
<v Speaker 1>at Gamatsu. Shift Up expects to release a PC version
<v Speaker 1>of Stellar Blade in twenty twenty five, the company said,
<v Speaker 1>and it's Q three twenty twenty four earnings report. We're
<v Speaker 1>aiming for twenty two, tenty five releafs. Shift Up said
<v Speaker 1>in response to a question about when a PC version
<v Speaker 1>of Stellar Blade will come out. Given recent trends like
<v Speaker 1>Steam's growing presence in the Triple A games market and
<v Speaker 1>the global success of Blackmith Wukong, we are expecting the
<v Speaker 1>PC version to perform even better than the console version. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>its growing.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it seems growing presents in the Triple A games
<v Speaker 2>markt Hi.
<v Speaker 1>That's a weird one. Huh. All right, Like finally Steam's
<v Speaker 1>living up to the name of Stellar Blade for us,
<v Speaker 1>Okay whatever, Uh, Stellar Blade is the it came and
<v Speaker 1>it went a little bit. I think they're definitely made
<v Speaker 1>some of a splash. It did not make a Blackmith
<v Speaker 1>Wukong style splash that was so much bigger than that. Actually,
<v Speaker 1>but I think Stellar Blade could do very well on PC.
<v Speaker 1>Are people still going to care when it comes to
<v Speaker 1>PC in twenty twenty five?
<v Speaker 2>Will it have mult support?
<v Speaker 1>Okay? So yes, So you're suggesting that the hornies out there.
<v Speaker 2>Will well, No, I think again, it'll like it'll be
<v Speaker 2>one of those games where it just yeah, like people
<v Speaker 2>will have heard word of mouth for it and just
<v Speaker 2>yeah and just and get it. Like, I think you'll
<v Speaker 2>probably do very very well on PC.
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I think it's gonna I won't match Blackmith
<v Speaker 1>bookong numbers, but it'll do very well. Uh and uh yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I started on PS five. I enjoyed it as an
<v Speaker 1>action game. I didn't play too much of it, and
<v Speaker 1>now I'm at the point where it's like I think
<v Speaker 1>I will just wait for it to be on PC
<v Speaker 1>and I'll play it there, played on the Steam Deck.
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully it runs well on that and that that would
<v Speaker 1>be ideal.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that'd be good. Well are you wanting to
<v Speaker 2>play that in public? Though?
<v Speaker 1>Well? That can? I have dark corners in my home
<v Speaker 1>where I can play it. So yeah, like, what are
<v Speaker 1>you saying that I could take my shame and not
<v Speaker 1>be seen by the world.
<v Speaker 2>That's all I mean, the shame cupboard.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, the shame shame coverard. Sorry, Jeff Grubb lives. That's
<v Speaker 1>for sure, all right. Nintendo devs still want to make
<v Speaker 1>more too D zeldas. This is from Ethan Gotch at Kotaku. Sorry,
<v Speaker 1>Dan Sley. I stayed in the dark corners of Greb's
<v Speaker 1>home home. It's nice there. Yeah, I have nice dark corners.
<v Speaker 1>Let's be clear, all right, Ethan writes. Despite the phenomenal
<v Speaker 1>success of both The Legend of Zelda, Breath of the
<v Speaker 1>Wild and Tears of the Kingdom, developers at Nintendo still
<v Speaker 1>have a special love for the two D style games
<v Speaker 1>from the series's past. In fact, this year's top down
<v Speaker 1>Zelda Echoes of Wisdom may have convinced them that there
<v Speaker 1>are still new ideas worth exploring in future two D
<v Speaker 1>Zelda games. Nintendo producer ig alan Numa helped oversee Zelda
<v Speaker 1>Echoes of Wisdom's development in partnership with outside studio Grezo.
<v Speaker 1>He recently told the BBC that it can feel impossible
<v Speaker 1>to do anything new with the two D Zelda format,
<v Speaker 1>but they ultimately found a way in the twenty twenty
<v Speaker 1>four spin off about Zelda cloning objects to solve puzzles,
<v Speaker 1>and so this game made me realize that there's still
<v Speaker 1>a lot of possibility for these top down Zelda games
<v Speaker 1>as well. Alanuma said. While nothing is set in stone,
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like the team hopes they can continue a
<v Speaker 1>dual approach to developing Zelda games in the future and
<v Speaker 1>then quote continues and so we will also have those
<v Speaker 1>dynamic three D Zeldas as well, he told the BBC.
<v Speaker 1>But in addition to that, we're also hoping that we
<v Speaker 1>can continue with these two D top down Zeldas. Lucy,
<v Speaker 1>this is exactly the kind of thing I want to
<v Speaker 1>hear as someone that always enjoyed having you know, Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>had their home console and their portable console, and this
<v Speaker 1>gave them multiple avenues to be like, here's the big
<v Speaker 1>game and then here's a smaller game for thirty to
<v Speaker 1>forty dollars. Now, that's not the way it works now,
<v Speaker 1>it is. Hey, here's Echoes of Wisdom, and that's also
<v Speaker 1>sixty dollars. But that is personally something I'm willing to
<v Speaker 1>accept if it means we keep getting these sort of
<v Speaker 1>different tiers of games enfranchises going forward. And I wish
<v Speaker 1>it's something that you know, we talked about Sony and
<v Speaker 1>we you know, I look over at Microsoft as well,
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of other publishers. I kind of wish
<v Speaker 1>they could do this as well. Of yes, you're going
<v Speaker 1>to have your big games that you want to sell
<v Speaker 1>north of five million and in Nintendo's case of Zelda,
<v Speaker 1>north of twenty five million copies. But let's just kind
<v Speaker 1>of keep things interesting and spice things up every couple
<v Speaker 1>of years with something smaller, something that it's supposed to
<v Speaker 1>be contained, supposed to look smaller two D. It looks
<v Speaker 1>cheaper and that, and looks like it was probably much
<v Speaker 1>more affordable to make, and yet there's still something to it.
<v Speaker 1>You put a lot of effort into it, and it
<v Speaker 1>can live side by side with those bigger games. I
<v Speaker 1>really appreciate this.
<v Speaker 2>How about you, me too. I think Nintendo's you know,
<v Speaker 2>just it has such an insanely huge install base, and
<v Speaker 2>like they know that they have all of those pockets
<v Speaker 2>of fans who want something a little different, who will
<v Speaker 2>come out and will buy those games. And I think
<v Speaker 2>it's really great that they're still supporting them. Like, say
<v Speaker 2>what we want about Nintendo and the community and everything, but
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to games, as long as it's but
<v Speaker 2>the fun factor, they will you know, that will make it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right. And it's a you know, this is
<v Speaker 1>always why Sony struggled when it had its handheld. It
<v Speaker 1>tried to like have the console games just on handheld,
<v Speaker 1>so you know, here, here's a uncharted Golden abys or
<v Speaker 1>whatever it was called. And yeah, and it's like some
<v Speaker 1>people liked it, but it's like it always felt like, hey,
<v Speaker 1>this was made by a team.
<v Speaker 2>It feels like a compromise. It feels like the compromise
<v Speaker 2>version of the game that you want. And that's the
<v Speaker 2>problem with putting a lot of third party on Switch,
<v Speaker 2>because again it's the worst way to play the game
<v Speaker 2>because of technical limitations. However, when you make something for
<v Speaker 2>that console specifically that just like works and works with
<v Speaker 2>the uh the key what do you call it? Like
<v Speaker 2>the only had one coffee? Like the key features of
<v Speaker 2>the handheld constantly you're designing it for it is going
<v Speaker 2>to be a better experience for everyone, especially when it's
<v Speaker 2>full of nostalgia. Jelly Bean, What is going on here?
<v Speaker 1>Jelly bean? Because I can hear it. That's oh dude,
<v Speaker 1>you hear yeah, yeah, normally you can't. Normally are hard
<v Speaker 1>to hear on microphones, but jelly Bean's just right there.
<v Speaker 1>Hey kitty hello, kitty cat. Ye love cats. Yeah, I
<v Speaker 1>am glad to hear them. Be like, hey, we two
<v Speaker 1>dzeld from Groso work great. We want to do more
<v Speaker 1>of that.
<v Speaker 2>I forget about you.
<v Speaker 1>I want yes, and I want to make sure that
<v Speaker 1>we like like they did that two d Zelda METROI
<v Speaker 1>dread not too long ago. It's like, let's just keep
<v Speaker 1>making more of those. Uh and I pardon me, hopes.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, okay, so you're doing this with franchises in
<v Speaker 1>which you do have the big three D games as well.
<v Speaker 1>Is that where this is going to happen or is
<v Speaker 1>there a possibility that, like some franchises that maybe you
<v Speaker 1>think don't make sense to spend major money on to
<v Speaker 1>make a big, new three D blockbuster version of could
<v Speaker 1>we just get the smaller two D? Like, could there
<v Speaker 1>be a new Fox? Yeah? Right? Could there? Yeah? Star Fox?
<v Speaker 1>That just looks like it's a N sixty four sequel
<v Speaker 1>or something like that, or a punch Out game where
<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, punch Out can only be so big.
<v Speaker 1>I don't want like some cinematic story mode in there
<v Speaker 1>to make it feel bigger or whatever. And listen, I
<v Speaker 1>thought that we won was very good. Next Level did
<v Speaker 1>excellent work on there with the animation, but it doesn't
<v Speaker 1>need to be much more than that. Could we just
<v Speaker 1>get that again? And you sort of position that as
<v Speaker 1>here's the scrappy little punch Out sequel. I hope they
<v Speaker 1>can get to that point, but I think we've seen
<v Speaker 1>up to this point it's it's very difficult to allocate
<v Speaker 1>those resources to across the board to all these other franchises.
<v Speaker 1>They are kind of picking and choosing their battles, and
<v Speaker 1>that's true across this industry.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think you know, they have a real
<v Speaker 2>embarrassment of riches when it comes to franchises that they
<v Speaker 2>can pick from and like Nintendo, if you look at
<v Speaker 2>Super Mario Brothers, wonder you know the way that they
<v Speaker 2>approach making that game, like just letting everyone just like
<v Speaker 2>throw ideas out and sorry to foster new and younger talent,
<v Speaker 2>generations of talent. Yeah, Like you've got to wonder, like
<v Speaker 2>there'll be some upstart at Nintendo who goes, hey, remember
<v Speaker 2>that franchise that we forgot. I've got an idea, and
<v Speaker 2>I hope that Nintendo's in a place where they would
<v Speaker 2>again foster and encourage that kind of stuff.
<v Speaker 1>Yep. And there was definitely talk in one of the
<v Speaker 1>recent financial parts of hey, we are looking to work
<v Speaker 1>with more smaller third party studios to expand our you know,
<v Speaker 1>expand the people that work with our IP And I
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's what that's actually gonna end up
<v Speaker 1>looking like, but I hope that can be more stuff
<v Speaker 1>like what Grezo is doing with Zelda. All right, that
<v Speaker 1>is is that what I he That's what I have
<v Speaker 1>from Nintendo. So then let's get to these Xbox stories.
<v Speaker 1>Xbox is building a handheld, but it's very likely years away,
<v Speaker 1>says Boss. This is from Andy Robinson at VGC Xbox
<v Speaker 1>Boss Phil Spencer has confirmed that Microsoft is working on
<v Speaker 1>a handheld gaming prototype, but claimed that any potential device
<v Speaker 1>is still years away. Microsoft's gaming CEO has repeatedly hinted
<v Speaker 1>that it could create its own steam Deck style Xbox device,
<v Speaker 1>and in a new interview with Bloomberg, the execs said
<v Speaker 1>that the expectation is that is that we would do
<v Speaker 1>something in the category, saying that like the expectation within
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft is that they would do something. Microsoft is working
<v Speaker 1>on prototypes and considering what it might do. Spencer confirmed,
<v Speaker 1>and he's asking his hardware team to analyze the market
<v Speaker 1>and develop its vision based on what it learns. Any
<v Speaker 1>device is a few years out, he said. In the
<v Speaker 1>near term, Xbox will focus on making its apps work
<v Speaker 1>better on existing portable devices and partnering with hardware manufacturers
<v Speaker 1>to make sure their products sink. He added, I think yes,
<v Speaker 1>in the meantime, if you could just make Windows better
<v Speaker 1>on handheld stop. That is always going to be my
<v Speaker 1>hand up with using stuff like the Roger ally, which
<v Speaker 1>I always say, once you're in the game, it's great.
<v Speaker 1>I like the spies using Windows on that thing, But it's.
<v Speaker 2>When is They said that stem Os is coming to
<v Speaker 2>the Roger. Yeah, like cannot cannot be sooner, Like I'm
<v Speaker 2>dying for that.
<v Speaker 1>But in the meantime, it's I think what what's happening here, Lucy,
<v Speaker 1>is that they are trying to make sure that they
<v Speaker 1>get everything aligned with like what the next Xbox could be,
<v Speaker 1>with what the hardware strategy, GET strategy is going to be.
<v Speaker 1>Because right now, as they're standing here, I think it's
<v Speaker 1>very easy for people to go, hey, just make just
<v Speaker 1>take the Xbox one, CERRU six Xbox Series S and
<v Speaker 1>put that in a handheld, and that is probably not
<v Speaker 1>viable even in the next two ish years three iss
<v Speaker 1>years to shrink down that X eighty six system on
<v Speaker 1>a chip and put it in a handheld, make it
<v Speaker 1>cost effective, and make a battery that can run for
<v Speaker 1>longer than a half an hour. So we have heard,
<v Speaker 1>like you know, they through those leaked documents as part
<v Speaker 1>of the acquisition of Activision, that they were looking at
<v Speaker 1>the potential of using something like ARM processors, which is
<v Speaker 1>what we have in phones and you know iPhones, and
<v Speaker 1>now Apple switched to it for Apple Silicon, a silicon
<v Speaker 1>where it's like all the M chips are all ARM
<v Speaker 1>based processors, and that stuff is is much more energy efficient,
<v Speaker 1>and it's much and it could be just as powerful,
<v Speaker 1>if not even more powerful. Now, So the problem there
<v Speaker 1>is that Microsoft is true to putting out games that
<v Speaker 1>run on x eighty six architecture, which is like basically
<v Speaker 1>just PC architecture PC architecture, and you have your library
<v Speaker 1>of games. They have several services that just run on
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. So they're probably like, can we make a
<v Speaker 1>shift to ARM or do we just wait until x
<v Speaker 1>eighty six is more efficient, wait for Intel to kind
<v Speaker 1>of you not Intel, but AMD, well, until NAMD in
<v Speaker 1>conjunction with one another, to get their shit together so
<v Speaker 1>that you know that stuff is much more energy efficient,
<v Speaker 1>and then just kind of hope for the best. At
<v Speaker 1>that point. I think that that their timeline is too
<v Speaker 1>is probably too ambitious. I know he talks about year
<v Speaker 1>like year is off, but I think that means like
<v Speaker 1>something by like twenty twenty six, right, like two years
<v Speaker 1>off is what I think that means? What do you
<v Speaker 1>think I think?
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, twenty twenty six seems to be ooh god, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>AMD just laid off four percent of his employees yesterday,
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, well Jesus, oh my god, beans, come on, yeah, no,
<v Speaker 2>it feels ambitious, but it also feels like if you
<v Speaker 2>wait any longer, you're just losing that market because of
<v Speaker 2>Steam Deck and rock Ally and everything, and so it
<v Speaker 2>does like, yeah, and also we don't know what's gonna
<v Speaker 2>happen with things like tariffs and importing and.
<v Speaker 1>The Acarnemy, so that Nintendo was smart to not announce
<v Speaker 1>anything with the switch to until after the election.
<v Speaker 2>They were, Yeah, that was a real queen's dying, let's
<v Speaker 2>not announce tears of the Kingdom moment, right.
<v Speaker 1>It's like the uncertainty now is real for that kind
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. So yeah, I think that twenty twenty six
<v Speaker 1>is going to be a big Xbox year where they
<v Speaker 1>will try to like reset what their hardware deck looks like.
<v Speaker 1>But that's not a lot of time between today and
<v Speaker 1>then if they're still kind of analyzing what they're going
<v Speaker 1>to do with their handheld hardware, it's so it's my
<v Speaker 1>guest here is they've been analyzing it for a while
<v Speaker 1>and they do have a pretty good idea what they
<v Speaker 1>want to do, and if they can like launch a big, new,
<v Speaker 1>super powerful Xbox console that you know has that's more
<v Speaker 1>open than ever, you know, there's those rumors that would
<v Speaker 1>you can install Steam on the next Xbox things like that,
<v Speaker 1>if they have something like that ready to go in
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six, to sort of uncouple themselves from the
<v Speaker 1>generational reset that Sony's been on, so they're no longer
<v Speaker 1>like side by sids. We think the next Sony generation
<v Speaker 1>probably starts in like twenty twenty eight ish. Okay, that's great,
<v Speaker 1>But then at that same time, as a sort of
<v Speaker 1>the other pillar next to instead of you having the
<v Speaker 1>Xbox One or Xbox Series S, you would probably want
<v Speaker 1>the handheld to go alongside that. It would it would
<v Speaker 1>be tough to get to that point, but I think
<v Speaker 1>that they can probably make it happen, And especially if
<v Speaker 1>they get very aggressive about it and they just go
<v Speaker 1>full full speed speed ahead into using our architecture. You know,
<v Speaker 1>the question will be can they get a translation layer
<v Speaker 1>that makes all that stuff that you are owned run
<v Speaker 1>really well on a device like that that's not nothing's
<v Speaker 1>guaranteed there. So that's probably what's holding them up from
<v Speaker 1>from thinking, hey, we can have this thing ready to
<v Speaker 1>go and you know a year and a half.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean they've already dipped toe in. You know,
<v Speaker 2>they had like some kind of deal with the Rock
<v Speaker 2>Ally they had that, remember was it the Lenovo game
<v Speaker 2>Pass x cloud machine thing for a few years ago
<v Speaker 2>as well, So definitely keeping sort of like a presence
<v Speaker 2>in the market with strategic partnerships.
<v Speaker 1>Right when you've got the Roger, we got the Roger ally, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you would get the Yes game passing exactly, yes, yeah, right, yes,
<v Speaker 1>So I think I think they want to be present
<v Speaker 1>in the space they want to have. They want to say, hey,
<v Speaker 1>you many of these devices you are using Windows still,
<v Speaker 1>And I think if they while they are getting this whatever,
<v Speaker 1>the Xbox side of things looks like you know, ready,
<v Speaker 1>if they are improving the PC Windows side of it
<v Speaker 1>to the point where it's like, okay, we understand what
<v Speaker 1>people need from a portable operating system and a portable
<v Speaker 1>gaming experience, that would be great. It's just like my
<v Speaker 1>issue continues to be I already know what it looks like.
<v Speaker 1>It looks exactly like exactly like steam Os. Steam Os
<v Speaker 1>is what I want a portable gaming experience to feel
<v Speaker 1>like when I turn on a system or you know,
<v Speaker 1>or a switch, you know, switches how to write it
<v Speaker 1>for a long time as well, So it's like okay, yeah, Kim.
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft gets to that point. Maybe it's just like I
<v Speaker 1>do think they do need the Xbox side of it.
<v Speaker 1>So it's people don't have the expectations that come with
<v Speaker 1>having Windows installed on a device because have carry forward
<v Speaker 1>all of that history and all of the support there
<v Speaker 1>for all the deal, Like I don't I don't need
<v Speaker 1>Photoshop running on this thing. No.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And sometimes like I'll boot up my rogueline, it's
<v Speaker 2>just like, oh shit, I don't know, and then you
<v Speaker 2>have to like reboot and stuff. I'm like, what is this?
<v Speaker 2>What is this?
<v Speaker 1>It's like gasps, like, oh my god, what's wrong? And
<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, which of these three software these services
<v Speaker 1>do I need to open up to update to get
<v Speaker 1>it right? And it's like, oh no, it's the one
<v Speaker 1>that's buried that I never remember, the my ACER experience
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, my a SEUs experience whatever it's called. Yeah. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>So they definitely need to improve that. And I think,
<v Speaker 1>you know, clearly, for me, the right answer is, don't
<v Speaker 1>deal with any of that bullshit, just have an Xbox
<v Speaker 1>handheld and yeah. Then they're working towards that. We'll see
<v Speaker 1>what it looks like. I very curious to see if
<v Speaker 1>they're able to pull off a transition to arm Again,
<v Speaker 1>there's no guarantee that they will actually do that, but
<v Speaker 1>I think they probably will, so we'll see. Uh. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>let's see here the last story I have written down.
<v Speaker 1>Xbox Chief says no red lines on Xbox games coming
<v Speaker 1>to other platforms. This is from my Nintendo News. The
<v Speaker 1>head of Xbox Phil Spencer, told Bloomberg in an interview
<v Speaker 1>that he sees no red lines where it comes to
<v Speaker 1>bringing major Xbox games to other platforms. This is in
<v Speaker 1>upfront change from Spencer, who previously wouldn't be drawn into
<v Speaker 1>saying if key Xbox games would come to other platforms.
<v Speaker 1>It seems now that nothing is off the table for
<v Speaker 1>the Redman based company. Spencer also told Bloomberg that the
<v Speaker 1>business is much healthier now as the result of cuts
<v Speaker 1>and games appearing on other systems, and that they are
<v Speaker 1>working on Xbox themed hand on an Xbox Team handheld
<v Speaker 1>that is a few years out after releasing the first
<v Speaker 1>batch of Xbox games for Sony Group, Cores, PlayStation and
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo companies switch, Spencer's pleased with the result. Microsoft will
<v Speaker 1>do more of that, he said, and won't rule out
<v Speaker 1>any game in Microsoft Stable. I think that's a quote
<v Speaker 1>taken from the Bloomberg story. I do not see sort
<v Speaker 1>of red lines in our portfolio that say thou must
<v Speaker 1>not He said, it's too early to make any sort
<v Speaker 1>of decision on the next version of Halo, for example.
<v Speaker 1>So okay, let's start there. Lucy James, do you think
<v Speaker 1>the next Halo is on a PlayStation?
<v Speaker 2>Yes?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this time.
<v Speaker 2>I think going forward, I wouldn't be surprised if everything
<v Speaker 2>comes to PlayStation eventually.
<v Speaker 1>Because I think the way they need to look at it,
<v Speaker 1>Lucy is maybe timed exclusive, but me bright maybe, but
<v Speaker 1>it's like the way they need to look at it is,
<v Speaker 1>what is this going to look like in ten years?
<v Speaker 1>In ten years, you probably have fully sort of completed
<v Speaker 1>the process of turning Xbox into this thing where it's
<v Speaker 1>just the games are everywhere. So why delay it? Why
<v Speaker 1>like sort of, you know, do these little tap dances
<v Speaker 1>around what eventually is going to happen. Just accept that
<v Speaker 1>that's the way it's going to be and just rip
<v Speaker 1>the band aid off, and the band aid would be
<v Speaker 1>Halo on PlayStation now. That is still going to be
<v Speaker 1>a kind of a painful thing for a lot of
<v Speaker 1>those fans to have to go through. But whatever, it's like,
<v Speaker 1>it's just a game that other people can play. And
<v Speaker 1>I think Microsoft once you get used to that idea,
<v Speaker 1>and I do think that more now than ever, Microsoft
<v Speaker 1>is operating under the belief that third party stores will
<v Speaker 1>become regulated as such that that platform holders will have
<v Speaker 1>to allow them onto their store, onto their stores. So
<v Speaker 1>you can get the Microsoft Gaming Store on Google Play, sure,
<v Speaker 1>but in ten fifteen years time you will also be
<v Speaker 1>able to get the Microsoft store that has Call of
<v Speaker 1>Duty and Diablo and all this other stuff on PlayStation,
<v Speaker 1>and PlayStation will not be able to take a cut
<v Speaker 1>of it because that's the way it's going to work
<v Speaker 1>on mobile. And what's the difference. I think Microsoft thinks
<v Speaker 1>that's going to happen now. We don't know that's going
<v Speaker 1>to happen right now. There is no regulation that is
<v Speaker 1>forcing console manufacturers to do the same thing that's happening
<v Speaker 1>on smartphones. But what's the difference. There's very little difference.
<v Speaker 1>People will point out a difference, but there I think
<v Speaker 1>as far as regulators are concerned, there isn't one. So
<v Speaker 1>I think Microsoft's thinking about that future, wanting to be
<v Speaker 1>ready for it, and being ready for it. Men's like, hey,
<v Speaker 1>if you have the Microsoft Gaming app of you know,
<v Speaker 1>the gaming store available on place, why wouldn't I be
<v Speaker 1>able to buy Halo on there? So, yeah, I think
<v Speaker 1>you're right. It's weird, but that's the future they're heading toward. Now,
<v Speaker 1>do you think this is the answer to what ails
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft currently?
<v Speaker 2>I think we'll be able to more accurately discuss that
<v Speaker 2>one when they start putting games out, Like twenty five
<v Speaker 2>for Microsoft is going to be according to the Summer
<v Speaker 2>Game First presentation we had this year, like allegedly a
<v Speaker 2>lot of bangers coming out for them, like a lot
<v Speaker 2>of titles that I've been waiting for for a very
<v Speaker 2>long time. I don't know. Microsoft has been very bullish
<v Speaker 2>about acquisitions. They are obviously still always looking around for
<v Speaker 2>acquisitions and like bringing everyone unto the stable. But I
<v Speaker 2>think in terms of the console war, the console race,
<v Speaker 2>like I think they are seeing a different path and
<v Speaker 2>like I'm really interested to see how it plays off
<v Speaker 2>for them. Like they are making these really long plays,
<v Speaker 2>they're making these investments, but then at the same time,
<v Speaker 2>the human cost they're laying off thousands of people. So
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, all of Bethesda Zenomaxillon strike today, So I
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I'm really interested to see where it goes.
<v Speaker 2>I think one of the things that's going to be
<v Speaker 2>strange to decouple is the tribalism that everyone, like our generation,
<v Speaker 2>kind of grew up with because you were like a Dreamcast,
<v Speaker 2>or like a PlayStation or like an Xbox like you were,
<v Speaker 2>you were defined by the console that you have, and
<v Speaker 2>so moving into this world where everyone is able to
<v Speaker 2>play everything is going to be really interesting. And some
<v Speaker 2>people will really embrace that and be excited about the
<v Speaker 2>fact that hey, I can just buy one box and
<v Speaker 2>have everything, and then some people are going to be
<v Speaker 2>clinging onto the aldways.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, just fill in a little bit there. From Shanloo
<v Speaker 1>in verse. Hundreds of Potesta video game workers who work
<v Speaker 1>on titles like Fallout seventy six and Elder Scrolls are
<v Speaker 1>going on strike across the country. Workers in Maryland and
<v Speaker 1>Texas are walking off the JA claiming that the company
<v Speaker 1>has failed to address their remote work concerns at the
<v Speaker 1>bargaining table and has begun outsourcing quality assurance work without
<v Speaker 1>the union's agreement. Yeah, that's uh. They unionized like in
<v Speaker 1>like the last year, right.
<v Speaker 2>They Uh, yeah, it was pretty recent.
<v Speaker 1>It was pretty recent, But it was the one that
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh man, that's that's the like wall to
<v Speaker 1>wall union over there, that they have a pathesda. That's
<v Speaker 1>that's new and they are already showing their power, so
<v Speaker 1>hopefully they're they're able to get what they want. There.
<v Speaker 1>The remote work thing there is something that really sticks
<v Speaker 1>to my crawl because it is that is such a
<v Speaker 1>clear thing of you could see how these executives are thinking.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, this isn't like a new way to treat workers, right,
<v Speaker 1>this is a new lever we can pull when it's
<v Speaker 1>time to reduce our head count. We no longer have
<v Speaker 1>to fire people. All we have to do is say
<v Speaker 1>mandated return to office. And we know but just by
<v Speaker 1>you know, we know the math that when we pull
<v Speaker 1>that lever, we will lose ten percent of people who
<v Speaker 1>don't want to make that change, and so we just
<v Speaker 1>save money and there we go. We watched it and
<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know that you cannot treat that that
<v Speaker 1>that that way. These are people's lives, people building their
<v Speaker 1>lives around this thing. This is not some new magical
<v Speaker 1>thing you could do to save costs. Uh and and
<v Speaker 1>but they're gonna keep treating that way until it gets enshrined,
<v Speaker 1>either through union contracts or labor labor laws, which in
<v Speaker 1>the United States, good fucking luck. So oh yes, so right,
<v Speaker 1>go for it. Get get you get what's yours bethes
<v Speaker 1>the workers, uh, you know, solidarity with you all. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I think that. God, God, I forget what where we
<v Speaker 1>were going to talking about. Oh, yes, the games come
<v Speaker 1>in other platforms. Yeah, they look at Call of Duty
<v Speaker 1>Black Ops six, that was one, Like, there was so
<v Speaker 1>much talk will it be exclusive to Xbox? Looking at
<v Speaker 1>black what Black Ops six has done, that's just an
<v Speaker 1>absurd notion at this point, that would be a completely
<v Speaker 1>baffling world to be in where Black Ops six came out,
<v Speaker 1>and it's just this, it's big, a bigger success than
<v Speaker 1>Call of Duty's had in a very long time, if
<v Speaker 1>not ever, And there's just no world in which they
<v Speaker 1>kind of go back from this. Hey, these games are everywhere,
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, when when you have something like this,
<v Speaker 1>you're like, we should try to replicate what Black Ops
<v Speaker 1>six is with more games, And part of that is
<v Speaker 1>you could play that game anywhere, So that's why people
<v Speaker 1>continue to show up for it.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, What did Matt Piscusella call it. I think
<v Speaker 2>he was like, the results are in for black Op
<v Speaker 2>six and then Bunkers Bonkers.
<v Speaker 1>Yes it is, but the engagement numbers are completely off
<v Speaker 1>the charts, and I think he's going to have the
<v Speaker 1>sirkana Us sales results here in the next two weeks.
<v Speaker 2>You just don't hear the word bonkers so much anymore.
<v Speaker 2>I love I love that that's what he pulled out
<v Speaker 2>for this.
<v Speaker 1>I remember when all the guys left Joystick to go
<v Speaker 1>start Polygon. They did a pack spanel and I was
<v Speaker 1>there for it and they were like they were they
<v Speaker 1>had announced the name of Polygon yet and they're like,
<v Speaker 1>we registered bonkers dot com and justin it was very
<v Speaker 1>much like I wanted to be Bonkers dot Com. I
<v Speaker 1>keep pushing for that, and uh, they ended up going
<v Speaker 1>with Polygon instead of Bunkers dot Com.
<v Speaker 2>Now I think I think, I think you shout Bunkers.
<v Speaker 1>I think very good.
<v Speaker 2>I think I've seen I've seen that panel. Yeah, have
<v Speaker 2>you ever gone back and watched the first of a
<v Speaker 2>Polygon video whether all walking on the streets of New York?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Arthur Geese is getting a tattoo, right is
<v Speaker 1>that Yeah, Arthur, Yeah that is that still available somewhere
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like I can, Okay, send it to me.
<v Speaker 1>I want to watch it again. Yeah, good time, all right,
<v Speaker 1>I am going to get to the pole question. Let's
<v Speaker 1>do that. Let's see here, I've got it already ready
<v Speaker 1>to go. Okay, which game are you most looking forward
<v Speaker 1>to for the rest of the year? Stalker two, Dragon
<v Speaker 1>Quest three, h D two d Indiana Jones or Rise
<v Speaker 1>of the Golden Idol. Rise of the Golden Idol got
<v Speaker 1>nine percent. Uh, people don't have days, people don't have taste. Lucy,
<v Speaker 1>you're playing it? Yes? Shit, does it rule?
<v Speaker 2>It's so good, my god, it rocks.
<v Speaker 1>I'm just every like I'm at a point with it
<v Speaker 1>where every time I pick it up and look at
<v Speaker 1>it again, like I am flooded with dopemine. I'm like,
<v Speaker 1>we're back in it. Oh my god, this is so exciting,
<v Speaker 1>a new mystery. I just get happy every time I
<v Speaker 1>go to play it again. It's so like punch in
<v Speaker 1>the air. Yeah, Dan beat it last night and he
<v Speaker 1>was he was running through We talked about it on
<v Speaker 1>the BombCast yesterday. Everybody, so definitely definitely checked that out.
<v Speaker 2>The music in it is great because it's obviously bringing
<v Speaker 2>the story up to like the seventies, so there are
<v Speaker 2>some good beats.
<v Speaker 1>And it's deep, creepy beats. Yep. I just love the
<v Speaker 1>way it looks. God, what a cool thing. Okay, And
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm finishing the driving thing right now. That's
<v Speaker 1>my That's the mission I was on. So I have
<v Speaker 1>the next mission after that that I'm getting into. Now.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, you're still pretty pretty early.
<v Speaker 1>I'm in chapter two. Yes, yeah, I haven't had a
<v Speaker 1>lot of time for it, but I am he okay.
<v Speaker 1>So the results from this Rise of the Golden Idol
<v Speaker 1>nine percent in third place, Dragon Quest three h D
<v Speaker 1>two D with twenty six percent. I'm I'm looking forward
<v Speaker 1>to that. That's out pretty soon, although Stalker two at
<v Speaker 1>thirty one percent also out soon and then thirty four percent,
<v Speaker 1>say Indiana Jones, I'm thot that was.
<v Speaker 2>Out coming out. I'm before that'll me my Christmas game. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited. I am genuinely excited for Indiana Jobs, even
<v Speaker 2>though I'm not in Indiana Jones like fun, Yeah, I do.
<v Speaker 2>I love machine games, so.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, machine games. You know that gameplay reveal trailer definitely
<v Speaker 1>looked like or the gameplayed Deep Dive. I should say
<v Speaker 1>they've done a reveal previously the Deep Dive. It was
<v Speaker 1>like fifteen minutes showing stuff up. I'm looking like, this
<v Speaker 1>looks like a game that was made by people that
<v Speaker 1>worked on Chronicles of Riddick and it really yes, and
<v Speaker 1>it is. So I'm like, I want to play this
<v Speaker 1>game very bad. I'm really looking for work to it
<v Speaker 1>at this point. But yeah, I'll try all these Well.
<v Speaker 1>I wish I would have made time for Stalker one
<v Speaker 1>this year. I always intended to play.
<v Speaker 2>I've never played it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it would be so, yeah, we'll see. Okay, yep,
<v Speaker 1>that's the result of that poll. We got a new
<v Speaker 1>poll question that I'll get to here in a second
<v Speaker 1>before we do. Lucy James, why don't you tell people
<v Speaker 1>where they can find you on the internet what you
<v Speaker 1>have going on all that good stuff?
<v Speaker 2>Well you can find me in about three hours time
<v Speaker 2>when we return to Kong Blight Islands.
<v Speaker 1>Blight Club returns.
<v Speaker 2>Like, what was the name of this game?
<v Speaker 1>It's Skull Island, Rise of Kong. I believe it took
<v Speaker 1>me a long time to commit that to me.
<v Speaker 2>I'm very excited to get back into it. I am
<v Speaker 2>ready to face the same enemies over and over and
<v Speaker 2>over again.
<v Speaker 1>You made real progis last time, you made real prom.
<v Speaker 2>I made a lot of proggies for shoot.
<v Speaker 1>For shoot, you made proot.
<v Speaker 2>I've made proggies.
<v Speaker 1>No notes you thank you?
<v Speaker 2>Uh so yeah?
<v Speaker 1>Doing that?
<v Speaker 2>And then what else am I doing this week? Prepping
<v Speaker 2>for Game Awards?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>Stuff? Please be excited.
<v Speaker 1>Meeting Still, I'm out next week. So it's like I got,
<v Speaker 1>you know, we I got. Everyone knows that we do
<v Speaker 1>have the GB at night, the night before the Game Awards. Lucy,
<v Speaker 1>you'll be on that last segment hanging out with us.
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a good time. Looking really looking forward
<v Speaker 1>to that. Uh And I have the assistant that helped
<v Speaker 1>out last time is helping me schedule this time, which
<v Speaker 1>has just been saving me from an ulcer. It's been
<v Speaker 1>really good.
<v Speaker 2>People are messaging me asking to come by the way
<v Speaker 2>like some cool people, so.
<v Speaker 1>Loop me in. I love I love having cool, especially
<v Speaker 1>cool friends of yours. That'd be great. Let's let's make
<v Speaker 1>it happen and we'll get that going.
<v Speaker 2>Wendy helping out.
<v Speaker 1>Wendy is helping out, Yes, yes she is, and she's
<v Speaker 1>Christing and so so yeah, if again, I mentioned this
<v Speaker 1>last time and it worked. But any developers that you
<v Speaker 1>think you might be in LA around that time, you
<v Speaker 1>or you know, if your PR and you represent developers,
<v Speaker 1>reach out to me. We'll see we can make something happen.
<v Speaker 1>We don't have a ton of spots. We're just doing
<v Speaker 1>the one night, so it's gonna fill up fast.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, there are some people who are just wanting to
<v Speaker 2>hang out.
<v Speaker 1>Oh for sure, yes, and that you were more than
<v Speaker 1>welcome to do that. It's going to be a fun time.
<v Speaker 1>We you know, we we do. We've done at the
<v Speaker 1>office now but a bunch of times. It's been great
<v Speaker 1>every time. It's actually not a bad hangout spot.
<v Speaker 2>No one's thrown out everywhere, you know, like we've never
<v Speaker 2>had that. We never had anyone throw up or ruin anything,
<v Speaker 2>which is nice. Good, it's nice.
<v Speaker 1>Good. Everyone keeps their shit together. It's good to see.
<v Speaker 2>Nick you just said I can fix that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's go play call It Duty with Ricky last night.
<v Speaker 1>That was fun. Were we fished on my other podcast
<v Speaker 1>and me and the boys from the podcast were hanging
<v Speaker 1>out and then Nikki you just joined and we just yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we played for like an hour. It was a good time,
<v Speaker 1>all right, new pole question. Do you think the next
<v Speaker 1>Halo release on a PlayStation? Will We will release on
<v Speaker 1>a PlayStation as well as Xbox fix that Shawn jan
<v Speaker 1>whoever posts that I didn't write that, well, yes or
<v Speaker 1>no are your options? Looking forward to the results of that,
<v Speaker 1>which we will talk about on games Morning's here on
<v Speaker 1>giant Bomb tomorrow. Speaking to Giant Bomb. As Lucy mentioned,
<v Speaker 1>tune in for Blake Cold later today. We'll get some
<v Speaker 1>other fun stuff on the website. I'm going to try
<v Speaker 1>to play some games here or there. We'll see and
<v Speaker 1>again out next week. We're going to try to make
<v Speaker 1>the most of this week, but game most mornings. We'll
<v Speaker 1>return for the rest of the week, so look out
<v Speaker 1>for that. Anything else we should mention, I can't think
<v Speaker 1>of anything else, so let's get out of here. Lucy James,
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for hanging out with me today
<v Speaker 1>and talking about video games. I really appreciate it.
<v Speaker 2>Well, so this is always a highlight of my week.
<v Speaker 1>Yep. And there is to confirm Yes, Blake Club three pm
<v Speaker 1>Eastern time. That's right, yep. Thank you all for listening,
<v Speaker 1>Thank you all for watching. Thanks for coming in late
<v Speaker 1>as we got a late to start here, but we
<v Speaker 1>did great. I think we did a good episode. So
<v Speaker 1>until next time, have a good one, take care of
<v Speaker 1>yourself and goodbye.