Players Who Could be Traded on Draft Night with Josh Norris

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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're trying to ignore that draft buzz, but it's hard out here.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited. We're only two days away from the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: I'm here in my garage in front of a painting of my dead turtle rest in peace, and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Joined across the country. Bye. My friend Josh Norris of Underdog.

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Speaker 1: We've had him on for years back with the Around the NFL podcast from Brooklyn, doing great work with Underdog course, working with Dan and Mark over there and putting out a lot of great YouTube content. Josh, I've been enjoying all your videos. Are you Are you ready for this draft? Have you crammed enough?

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Speaker 3: Nope? I am not.

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Speaker 4: You and I were talking about this that you know, I could go on for another three weeks, and Daniel Jeremiah just put out a prospect at one twenty three overall that I've never even heard of, so I'm not going to get a single look at him. But here I am sitting in my draft dungeon, and I'm the opposite of you. Give me all the buzz, give me all the dms. Yeah, give me all the rumors that you want. My messages are open. I wanted all fans.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you can do that, and you could have actionable things that you take away from it with your mock drafts, which you famously had the best one in the country a few years ago.

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Speaker 3: Just ever, ever, not just the country, ever ever.

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Speaker 1: With gambling, you know, underdog and whatever you want to do, whatever is going on, I'm not allowed to do all that.

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Speaker 2: That all makes sense.

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Speaker 1: But what I would caution is, I feel like you need to be someone like Josh or you know, to pat myself on the back of someone like myself who has all day to be going through this and sifting through kind of the connections and the what's a coincidence, what you can and can't trust, what, what are some things that are collating, what you can just throw out and.

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Speaker 2: Totally who has time for that?

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Speaker 1: For the most part, I think if you completely ignored what was going on from Monday, let's say morning throughout Wednesday night, you might be fine. You might be fine with that, you might be fine Thursday. It starts coming in.

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Speaker 3: Two thoughts.

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Speaker 4: One, I hear a lot of people this week, especially say all of the news that comes out as just smoke screens. Now I almost want to do a one to eighty from that, I think it's the opposite because the last two weeks are when, as you know, the scouts come in for all these meetings. Then they get the medical information and take guys off the board, and then I think the most dangerous thing for these front offices are these scouts having the information of knowing how the board is stacked, and then another five six days waiting until unleash that until the NFL draft they have to tell someone they have all this stuff. And so I think some of this that does get leaked actually does come true, and that's you know, what we kind of try to do is sift through that and find the gold.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but there are also consensus opinions that form, like Will levis going, you know top three that lasted until Wednesdays ridiculous, you know what I mean, where where it's hard to get to know. And we're gonna we're going to piece through some of that. We'd be here all day if we tried to go through everything that's out there, but we will go through a couple of little items that I'll throw at you later in the show. And what you think, I also just want to get a couple names from you where you're a little further high or low on a player than consensus. Later, I feel like I've almost given out my all my like draft opinions. If you go back in NFL daily, they're out there. I don't know if I have anymore. But first we're going to talk about potential trade candidates. This is this show I've wanted to do the whole time, and we hadn't gotten to it yet. And Josh, I usually have you on for your your draft nuggets and your tape watching expertise.

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Speaker 2: You do a great job, but this you know you're from road A World. You graduated. How many years ago did you go away from Gosh?

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Speaker 4: I was probably there for eight years, so even was the twenty nineteen so twenty nineteen, twenty twenty ish.

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Speaker 1: A lot of successful graduates from from road A World and Double Major. We we like to focus on the pro side when we were back there and like what kind of pro trades are going to happen, So we will do that.

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Speaker 2: I do want to remind.

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Speaker 1: Our listeners, tell them really for the first time about our draft covered Zoe this year, because we hadn't given the details that on draft night we will be going live after the first round is over, so we will send out a link for that.

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Speaker 2: You can save it.

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Speaker 1: You can join me, you can join Patrick Claybon, you can join Steve Weisch heavy hitters on Draft Night, and we'll be doing draft shows obviously throughout the week after after Friday Night as well.

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna be live Friday night.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe.

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Speaker 4: What's up, Gosh, Greg, I hate to say this, and I want to know this. You and I will be Draft Night competitors then, because we will also be going live right after round one. I think we're the only two shows that aren't doing livestreams during and then stead after, and so I'm glad that you were my foe in that regard.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can watch us live and you can catch Josh the next day or the opposite.

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Speaker 2: It will still be there.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go through and let's organize these potential trades by most likely to be traded on Draft Day, because I don't want to waste our listener's time here, and so we'll start with the ones we think are most likely.

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Speaker 2: I'll let you get going. We'll just go back and forth here.

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Speaker 4: Oh, and you know these trades are important because you know, Randy Moss was traded during the NFL Draft, and then a couple of years ago we had you know, DeAndre Swift move from the lines of the Philtoph Eagles. So these things happen, and usually they're quite bargains, and oftentimes it's directly correlated to a new rookie selected at the same position. So the name I'm going to suggest first is Kevon Thibodeau of the New York Giants, Okay, with Abdul Carter most likely being the number three selection here for the Giants. I know that local media fan base have you know, brought back the days of Michael Strahan and Ocu Maneura and Justin Tuck and Matthias Kiwanuka. I think there's a big difference between those massive bodies that could play from a whole different alignment and a whole bunch of different positions than all the guys of the Brian Burns, Abdul Carter, Kveon Thibodeaux body types where they are best as true edge rushers. And so if you're going to move forward with two heavy investments of Burns and Abdul Carter, that one of these guys is going to get left out who is nearing the end of his rookie deal. So I think Kaveon Thibodeau has a high likelihood of getting moved this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you went right off the bat with speculative. I'm going more with just guys that have said they wanted to be traded off the bat. But I like that because I think it's smart. I do think the fifth year option timing puts a certain sort of pressure on a certain sort of player this weekend. There's another one I'll bring up later where teams and they haven't said what they're going to do with Kaveon Thibodeau's fifth year option. They have to make a decision on that by May first. So the timing on that is perfect for a team not only that would want to trade Thibodeau like the Giants. Okay, now we have Carter, he doesn't make sense, but a team that would want to trade for him because I think they would have him under contract for two years, they would certainly pick up that fifth year option. You would think if they're going to trade for him, He's been a solid starter, probably hasn't lived up to where they wanted him to be. He is a Joe Shane draft pick, so that that makes it less likely.

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Speaker 2: To me that he'd be giving up on his own guy.

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Speaker 1: But I could totally see that, and I think there's a handful of players like that where if a guy gets drafted, then they might trade the other guy at the position.

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Speaker 4: And you know, you remember that team because they beat up on your Patriots of all those different pass rushers that they moved all around, and I'm seeing that with mentioned you know, the abdu car selection at three. I just think you don't have a justin Tuck of that group that can play inside in pass rushing situations. So like, you have to make room for this guy to play seventy eighty percent of the snaps. And if Kevon Thibodau is that guy, then isn't it best to maybe get I don't know, a fourth round pick, a fifth round pick for him.

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Speaker 1: Man, if that's all you're getting, I don't think they would trade trade him two or two years troll.

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Speaker 2: For kve On Caveon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe like a late compensitive best friend or yes, uh, Kate Keveon back back in the day, great great multi time guest of the Around the NFL podcast, although I was not there uh for the famously for the second one, but I okay, I could see that happening. I also worry with the Giants, like, are they thinking at all about the future when when Joe sr and Brian Dables are are there? Uh, I'll go most likely, I'm just going Jalen Ramsey. I just think when he made that trade request and they said it was mutual, and listening to Chris Greer, a belieguered Chris Greer by the way that the GM of the Dolphins never has a guy given off more I'm probably not long for this job vibes than Chris Greer at his pre draft press conference. I've thrown it out there a couple of times this offseason that like, if there was one GM that gets the post draft firing, Chris Greer would would be my pick for that.

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Speaker 2: And it seems like they're on the same page here. Jayan Ramsey wants out.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if the Dolphins were totally thrilled with him either, and so I think he's almost definitely gone. And I think the Raiders and the Falcons, who have been reported to be two teams that are interested make all the sense in the world to me, one of the two, and that he had spoken Jordan Rodriguez the Athletic and Our show and he had the call.

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Speaker 2: Has mentioned that he's talked to Raheem Morris.

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Speaker 1: About possibly moving to safety in the past, So that makes a lot of sense to me. But the Raiders, the Raiders could get in some of these players.

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Speaker 4: You and I even exchanged texts on you know, these draft press conferences, both pre imposed. I think it's from my Runer Rold days that we actually enjoy those because to me, you can take a lot from them, not just of what they say, but who was saying it and the body language of the person next to them at the desk. I'm right there with you with Chris Careers. It's a really weird Dolphins situation here and it's there. Yeah, terrible is another word for that, And I don't know if like the root of that from just a player standpoint is, and tell me if I'm off base and you disagree, is that they know if their quarterback takes one terrible hit, then their season is basically over. And on top of that, this team has not invested a lot in the offensive line over the last two years, So are those hits more likely? And if that's the case, then once again, the season just is kind of pointless beyond that. But then it's just seems like a whole bunch of characters and maybe not enough leaders. And when Chris Green was asked about that, he did not have a great answer, and he vote Tyreek Hill's name, the guy who literally quit on his team at the end of last year.

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Speaker 1: Right, and who might not be on the team this year. Yeah, they asked him, and he I forget who. He threw out quickly, as is one name for a leader, and then he was just struggling to come up with other names he did not throw out to And I'm with you. It seems like does a collection of guys that have been brought together and sometimes it works. Their free agency class last year was really good, but it's just.

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Speaker 2: Like each great defensive coaching.

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Speaker 1: I think they're just like adding guys and they don't necessarily fit. No one seems particularly happy there. It seems like they are less than the sum of their parts. All right, give me another one another trade?

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Speaker 4: Can I'll go with another name that's being rumored to move, that has yet to move, and that's Dallas Goddard.

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Speaker 3: Of the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 4: I think that this team has kind of not maxed out on the contracts that they can give, but they kind of understand what the allocation is for certain spots that they are willing to give money to. And if Dallas Goddard, who I actually think is one of the more complete tight ends in the league and can go to a whole bunch of situations and really help them, but we've seen him miss time here or there, and I think that now in this draft class at the tight end position, maybe we talked about this a bit later on, and I'm sure you already have is just fantastic and a whole bunch of different types, that maybe this is the year that they reset at that position and just move off of a near thirty year old Dallas Goddard and go after one of these twenty two to twenty three year olds in round one a round two.

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Speaker 1: Yep, I think he could get replaced by It could be Mason Taylor at thirty two, who has been compared, but it could be someone else in the second round or the third round. Either way, the way they've talked about God It has been weird from the beginning. Bo Wolf I had on two days after the Super Bowl from phl Y and he thought Goddar based on and he's not just throwing this out there. He talks to people there. He thought, God, it was probably a Gonner this offseason. And he was the first person I heard say anything like that. And I think the Colts would would make a lot of sense for obvious reasons.

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Speaker 2: They need a tight end.

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Speaker 1: Shane Stiken is there, and if you are willing to take on his contract, you're not going to get.

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Speaker 2: Much for Dallas Goddard right now.

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Speaker 1: I you know, whatever it is, some move up to the third round or fourth round or something like that, but you have to give a pick back.

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Speaker 2: I think something like.

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Speaker 3: That could happen. Can I throw another team at you?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 4: And it's it's the Patriots, Like I don't think Josh McDaniels is going to be able to resist this Tiden class in any way, shape or form. You know, you've heard me tell the story before when I was with the then Saint was Rams in their twenty eleven draft room. He literally walked in the door in round two and Billy Devanni, who was a GM at the time said we're taking Lance Kendricks because he wanted Josh Matanos. I think lone season as the offensive coordinator that year, wanted to turn Lance Kendricks and Michael Jjo Manawanui into his new version of Aaron Hernandez and Rob Gronkowski. And we've seen him at basically every single stop invest in the tight end spot. And now they really haven't this offseason. Like I still think Hunter Henry has game left in him and Austin Hooper is the vetan that they resigned. But I think at the very least we get one tight end investment coming up this week for the New England Patriot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, it just seems more likely that it would be it's a young guy pick, but you're right, it could be they'd be a draft pick to bring in with Henry. They did resign Austin Hooper and not the Austin Hooper or Hunter Henry I think is going to change their draft.

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Speaker 3: Didn't They doubled dip a couple of years ago too.

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Speaker 4: It was like Dalton Keene and whoever the u CLA Titan was as well, like round three, you know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: The Belichick last draft classes, like the last three.

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Speaker 3: Here, they all blurred together.

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Speaker 1: They were rough, and they did not work out. But you're right, they double dipped and didn't get anything out of it. But a lot of cursed images and names you just brought up there, Billy Devanny, Saint Louis Rams, Josh McDaniels with the Saint Louis Rams not great.

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Speaker 4: That was the Austin Pettis and Greg Salas draft as well.

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Speaker 3: There's a whole bunch of stories I'll go into another time.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 1: So I only had four players that I wrote down that I thought were more likely than not to be traded, like more than fifty percent. God it was one of them. He was the fourth of my list. JayR Alexander. We just have kind of forgotten about him. Rob Demowski of ESPN was on a show this morning and said that ninety nine point five percent certainty he had that Gyre Alexander is not going to be on this team, that they have no interest in having him, that it's gotten dragged out way longer than anyone expected, but that he's not going to be on this team. So it's I don't have any logical landing spots. For him, but he's in a boom er bust type of pickup for some team out there that I think they could get at least a pick swap, but the contract complicates thing like like a very late pickswap at worst, and if not, it sounds like he's just gonna get caught after the draft is over. So Gyr Alexander is another one.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the Gyr Alexander story arc has been fascinating. I mean, a couple of years ago he was kind of mentioned, I'm not going to say to the same degree that Patrick Sartan was this past year, but he was up there as one of the best young corners in the league. And it's just like falling completely flat. Been some really odd on field stuff where he like stepped up as a team captain when he wasn't directed to be a team captain.

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Speaker 3: I think right.

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Speaker 1: He's also he's not young anymore now like age age quick. It's already such an up and down position that like, I do not think of him as a young player.

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Speaker 2: And we'll see, but he's a good player that should be traded.

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Speaker 4: Who else he got, I mean mine might be a bit further down the line than the nears because I had another replaceable player, and that's a Travis Etn of the Jacksonville Jaguars. I'm glad because I don't even know if this has to be an ash and gent selection at number five overall for Jacksonville to make this work. But whoever lands with Liam Cohen in that running game is going to produce yards and touchdowns and be high up there in terms of fantasy upside. And I just think at this point Travis Etn is just a volume sponge and kind of a plotter, and that's about it. He was billed as this big play artist coming out of Clemson with Trevor Lawrence. I think injuries have kind of taken that away. That was apparent to me in the first game of last year when Tank Bigsby just looked far more explosive. And Tank Bigsby's a very incomplete player, definitely, But I just think that Liam Cohen, as soon as he turned on the tape, is like, Okay, we can use some of what Tank Bigsby has here if anyone offers us anything for Travis Etn where we know we're going to replace him as the one A in this backfield. And so we'll try to recoup whatever assets we can there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's have our Genty conversation now, because I think that wherever Genty goes could make a candidate to be traded. Wherever he goes, I haven't totally mentally crossed out the Patriots just taking him at four and then Remandri's available the Jaguars at five. I just did the forties and free agents with Daniel Jeremiah on Monday, and Genty to the jag seems to be something that more people. It's the book inside the league thinks possible. And if they're thinking about gent there, yeah, Etn, they'll probably be thinking about a running back in the second round two if if they don't end up with Genty and Etn could leave. You also heard some like, hey, bris Hall is not necessarily the Jets new staffs cup of tea or that just they're going to look for their own guys, and so if Genti falls to seven and goes to the that's pre Saul could be another guy. And then around all this is the gent Raiders combination, which has been so talked about for a month among smart people that this was the week where I started to think like, wait, why has this been talked about for so long? This is where we start doubling back on the things we think we know about the draft, and we're actually going to listen to John spy Tech. It's the only sound for today here, Josh, we're going to listen to spy Tech at his pre draft press conference right now.

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Speaker 5: I don't try to devalue any certain position. I mean there's times in games where there's there's nobody you'd rather have than the best kicker in the league, too, right, I mean in that moment.

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Speaker 3: So there's certain.

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Speaker 5: Ways to build a team, and I just I don't know where we got to a place where we don't feel like running backs are value. I come from University of Michigan to my core, and those guys were certainly really valued there. So it's hard for me to get away from that.

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Speaker 2: Josh, what do you think this was?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: Worthy of second in the Stack on ESPN dot com over the weekend?

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Speaker 2: The news was so late.

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Speaker 4: The most telling phrase from that presser with Pete Carroll actually came from Pete Carroll, in my opinion, because when asked about Ashton gent Pete leaned over to Spytech and said, Hey, be careful with this one. Pete Carroll freaking loves the draft game, okay, and him saying that and maybe this is ten four hot theory makes me think it's even less likely they take Ashon Gent. Pete Carroll is the type that in previous years with the Seattle Seahawks would tweet hints of what kinds of picks the Seattle Seahawks were going to make, and so Pete wouldn't just lean over and say, Oh, we're interested in this guy. So this was a misdirection that people took as, oh, we're actually interested in him. So I think I would go the opposite way. I would be shocked if the Raiders select Ashon Gent at number six.

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Speaker 1: Overall this point, I know we've all been on this Gent to the Raiders thing for so long now that it makes me wonder, is this telegraphed?

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Speaker 2: And so why would that.

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Speaker 1: Tom Pelisara is on NFL Network on Monday morning saying that Genty could potentially be a trade up candidate, and so are the Jaguars letting this be known behind the scenes that they're into Gent because they don't want teams trading up for Gent with the Raiders. Are the Raiders just doing this the whole time? Who really would trade up for a running back? Or have we gotten that far that running backs are back?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 2: If that's the case, hell trade up with the Patriots? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: The Bears were mentioned and have been buzzed about as a potential team that could could trade up to take Ashton Genty. The Saints are another team, weirdly, even though they just gave Alvin Kamara a ton of money, they're the Saints and they're just bizarre. Another team that could be in on Ashton Genzy. I don't know if I'm all the way there that a team is going to trade up for a running back, I don't. I don't see it, even him. But maybe that's why the Raiders are putting this out there.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: You follow the Saints closely. Think about all those years when Sean Payton was there, when he like finds a target in round one, whether it be you know, Marcus Davenport, I know these are different pillar positions. He'll move up for him. He did it in his first draft when they barely had any picks to go get Marvin Mems. I believe at like the end of yeah, round two, Like, is it a ridiculous thing to suggest that the Broncos can move up from twenty to eight or twenty to six or twenty to seven or any of those spots.

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Speaker 1: And maybe the price wouldn't be as much. You're not trading a quarterback. The class isn't quite as good. So the Broncos have been mentioned by Adam Schefter as a potential trade up candidate just about the only one. But okay, that's our gent fallout. Quickly, a couple other names that could be traded. One that I think as fairly likely is George Pickens, and it hasn't gotten like a ton of pop. But since since my podcast co host Jeremiah threw that out there, I've just been thinking, yeah, like, this does seem like a two part move. I don't I don't know who takes on George Pickens. It's sting a buyer, beware, considering what happened with him. It's his last year of his conduct. You're not gonna get much for him. But you know, the teams that are needy of a wide receiver, the Patriots certainly come to mind. The Browns have been willing to just take chances on guys not not care about anything other than are they good on the field or not. The Panthers need a wide receiver the ring, but would they.

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Speaker 4: Do that right after the Deontay Johnson deal, after Mike Common and company being okay to let someone leave and then you trade basically nothing Dante Jackson for Deontay Johnson and then he doesn't even make it, you know, halfway through the season.

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Speaker 1: I mean Dante Jackson started for the Steelers, it ended up kind of being a nothing burger for for both teams. The Raiders certainly need a wide receiver. Maybe they would take a chance on him, but he's in the last year of his contract.

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Speaker 4: That's one I can definitely see George Pickens in silver and black, can't you, Like that's almost predestined at this right.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they be into Michael Mayer because it's kind of gotten lost in the shuffles. Another Raiders kind of put it out there that Michael mayor their second tight end who that could be a Patriots target too.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned then possibly trading for.

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Speaker 4: Kyray Wilson's another one from the Raiders too that's being mentioned as well, Like this is someone who was just draft in the top ten and hasn't produced at all because of injuries in the NFL, and it seems like they're picking Michael Koontz ahead of him, who missed all of last season as well.

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Speaker 3: So that's just an has been a bust.

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Speaker 1: Michael Mayer's looked like an NFL player when he's been out there, so I would think he would have a market. I can't imagine Tyree Wilson would have much. But yeah, that's that's fresh in my mind because my son Walker was watching old drafts on the Roku channel over the weekend. He's got the sickness, he really does, and we did it, did an exercise or he does it, but he then he checks with me afterwards if I agree, like hit miss or meh for for every pick and he doesn't really know the defensive or offensive lineman once and he's like, Tyry Wilson, that's that's a miss.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, that's that's a miss.

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Speaker 1: I was like listening to the coverage and everything they said after. I know that's only two years out, but that's been a Hayden.

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Speaker 4: I always have this conversation, specifically around genty and I don't want to bring it up here, but he's like, well, you know, Jalen Carter is going to get a much massive, much more massive deal than Bijon Robinson got. And I was like, well, then the pick just ahead of Bejon Robinson was Tyree Wilson. So it's not like you can just take these pillar positions and they absolutely work, Like I understand the contract values and the positional value and all that type of stuff, but those guys miss at the exact same time. So it's, uh, I think this type of draft too, it might be a little bit different on top of.

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Speaker 1: It, right, and maybe a better Colm because I kind of had forgotten then he went sixth that draft was Paris Johnson and so then that's one where it's like, Okay, I think we hit. We hit, Like I said, that's a that's a that's close to a hit.

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Speaker 3: I think tak K Johnson's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So you take a tackle at six instead of Bejohon Robinson, Where's I think you could reasonably debate like which way to go, but like Bajon was a better prospect certainly overall.

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Speaker 2: But I think the Cardinals are probably pretty happy.

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Speaker 3: Are we gonna get spicy Go Go. The one name that keeps getting floated out there by multiple people's Jamison Williams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the Deer, the other fifth year option guy was mentioning or thinking about earlier.

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Speaker 4: Albert Breer brought this up this morning. I know others have in recent weeks as well. I'm not sure if it's a Jamison Williams give him extra money and extra contracts and we're not sure how that's going to pan out, or that we already have our assets allocated to a whole bunch of situations, or is it Ben Johnson maximized on what the talent that is Jamison Williams, where he almost took over what Sam Laporta was doing in the previous year. I know that they are very different body types, but in the people just think of Jamison Williams as these vertical nine routes stuff, and he definitely has those highlights, but a lot of the production also came on these crossing routes, like these short routes that these were runway stuff. Get him up to speed and then he just rooms around linebackers and secondary people with his four to three whatever speed, And so that was a pivotal part for them last year, but we also know what has gone on kind.

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Speaker 3: Of the past two years.

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Speaker 4: Where I do it alerts me a little bit when someone like this who was that impactful his best year and he's already being mentioned as well.

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a cell high and I think it's the Lions getting out in front potentially. And I don't think this would get out there unless they were open to it. Of the assets being allocated, as you mention in trading him high, like you still have two years left on his contract when you have that fifth year option, which for a player like him is a good deal, that fifth year option, So you have him cost controlled for two years for less than two two at well is going to make over the next two years, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And so that's a tract see Tommy Brown. You know, but you also know we're.

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Speaker 1: Not going to give him market value because we have these sort of people maybe because of how he's been in the suspensions and everything like that, Like can we get a pretty reasonable pick here or can we use him to move up for our next star? That is that is a really intriguing one. Yeah, that I noticed as well.

00:27:20
Speaker 2: A couple more.

00:27:21
Speaker 1: I'm going to just fly through here and then we'll take a quick break. Tyreek Hill, I still think that's possible. I don't think it's likely. I think it's possible. Mark Andrews maybe to the Chargers. I feel like it's still possible. Although Eric the Costa their GM pointed out when was the last time we traded a veteran like during the draft. Has that happened, So that's kind of been out there and they I don't think that's gonna happen, and then some lesser players will Will Levis, I think we'll end up on another team, maybe the Steelers or Saints or Giants, like whoever's Whoever's just out of quarterbacks. Sam howel Is on.

00:27:55
Speaker 2: The markets, Drew Locke again.

00:27:58
Speaker 1: We're getting and at the bottom of my li as Drew Hendrickson, Trey Hendricks said, rather because I was like, I don't think he's going to get traded, so I'll just okay, I've got.

00:28:05
Speaker 4: One more spicy name. Okay, one we even't heard about this guy all offseason. Kyle Pitts isle Pits going to be usable in Atlanta. No, he's their fourth fifth pass catcher at best, now Kyle Pits has not been asked to run like the gimme real tight end routes, and now he's basically replaced as does he do the tight end stuff on an NFL field. But if they are going to get anything for Kyle Pits, I feel like it is this offseason and this NFL draft if there's someone and a team that is.

00:28:35
Speaker 3: Still like attached to the draft grade that they gave him.

00:28:37
Speaker 1: Teams love their draft grades, and that's that's part of all of these values. It's why Will Levis will be somewhere because they get attached to those draft grades. And Kyle Pits doesn't have the best NFL tape. It's not the worst NFL tape. That's not a crazy one either. I do have some real long juts. Actually, let's hit them. After the break. We'll be right back with Josh Norris. We're going to get the players he's furthest from consensus. We're gonna get some more long shot possible trades, and then a little bit of.

00:29:04
Speaker 2: Draft buzz and we will send you on your way. It is Draft week back on NFL Daily.

00:29:15
Speaker 1: It is Draft week, and we're talking about possible guys who could get traded. So I went through like the likely names, and Schefter throughout a bunch of possible names that are in their rookie contracts that to me are just not relevant enough to you know, no shade, Yeah, just to have like long con discussions about. But Evan Neil and Jalen Hyatt of the Giants, Trailon Burks, you mentioned Tyree Wilson, Kayshawn Booze. I'm like, you're gonna get something for Booty, who's actually, you know, an NFL player. Adafayoa actually was an interesting guy that he threw out there as guys on their rookie contract who's he's been okay, So him throwing those names out there is not nothing. But if I'm gonna throw out some other long shots, AJ Brown has been dismissed by Schefter, by other people, So stop thinking it's going to happen. Patriots fans for some reason thinks AJ Brown was somehow going to go to them. It's never gonna happen. Jeffrey Simmons is one that's been thrown out. Oh yeah, I feel like that. I feel like that's more of a long shot. But the thing is, I don't think you're going to get enough for Jeffrey Simmons. And this is true for most of these veteran types of guys, where if they're at on the team at this point in the offseason, they're probably going to stay there. And so I would include Jacoby Myers, James Cook, really any of the Browns starting cornerbacks. They've got three of them, and like if Martin Emerson or Denzel Ward or Gregg get you excited, Like I don't think they'll get traded, but they're possible. And then Devin Lloyd, if they're not picking up his fifth year option, I think he would have some value out there. Our guy Ali Connolly thought he played like an all Pro last year, that he really took a huge third year leap that not a lot of the media has noticed, I think except for in Jacksonville. So maybe he'd be another guy. But those are some just surprise long shots. All right, let's talk about your players. Josh, that you think you're further from consensus than any other so you do a great job. And I really recommend everyone check out Josh Norris and Hayden's YouTube page, which has like one hundred and thirty five thousand followers shout out.

00:31:19
Speaker 4: To we're only going to have like forty six prospect profiles, but yeah, we have about eight to fifteen minutes on the positives, the concerns, the underlying metrics, and then some player comparisons for all these guys on quarterbacks, wide receivers, tight ends, running backs, all that stuff.

00:31:37
Speaker 1: It's the right balance between diving deep but not too deep, you know what I mean.

00:31:43
Speaker 2: It's like it's perfect. It's not just two minutes on the guy. You want more.

00:31:46
Speaker 1: You want to really learn something, but you do it in a really concise, entertaining way.

00:31:50
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

00:31:51
Speaker 1: So you focus on the skill position guys, so I know it'll come from those guys. Who of those guys are you furthest from consensus.

00:31:58
Speaker 4: I'm going to lead off with Trevion Henderson out of Ohio State, who I have my running back too in this class, and I know a lot of people are expecting that to be a Marion Hampton. It might be he might even go round one.

00:32:11
Speaker 1: Oh, he might go to I think I think Trayvon Henderson might go top ten. I don't think it's that crazy that he would go to there.

00:32:17
Speaker 2: Yes, well, I.

00:32:18
Speaker 4: Have a heavy investment on a Marion Hampton over nineteen and a half, so we can all be rooting for that Trevion Henderson, though I think the Broncos at number twenty. When you think of where the draft will be when they're able to pick again at number fifty one, there's like a grand canyon of picks, and then there's no one that, to me, can do what Trevon Henderson does after he goes off the board. And from that, I mean, I guarantee you every single play caller, often as a coordinator that watched him left saying I would want that guy in my team because he changes the fabric of an offense. He's an explosive player who is also arguably the best pass protecting running back in this class. And you can find guys who or one of either of those sides, but rarely does it become that he's like a blend of the two. So he was a lead workhorse for a while at Ohio State. Then they tried to do the Detroit Lions running back room with he and Quinnchhn Jenkins this year and he dropped about five or six touches per game. But I'm just in love with what he brings to an offense and how he changes it now, and how the league is all about creating explosive plays in the running game because they're so difficult to achieve in the passing game.

00:33:27
Speaker 1: Now too great on passing downs and explosive is a great combination in a great blocker.

00:33:34
Speaker 2: He just didn't.

00:33:36
Speaker 1: I didn't get there some vision moments as a runner, Yeah, he didn't. I don't feel like I'm that far from consensus on a lot of these guys, and I think it's probably because I'm nagging this entire draft class, because I generally I generally watch like the first round guys as much as I can, and then beyond that for the skill positions because it's just more fun and you know, and I just I could I almost could feel that some of these guys are getting pushed up, and Travon Henderson was one of them for me where it's like, ouch, I'm not that excited. I mean as a runner, and that's what I look for first, Like to me, Amari and Hampton, I think is a really great prospect and it would be getting even more love if Jent He wasn't in this class.

00:34:19
Speaker 2: And I do love me some Hampton.

00:34:22
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think who i'd be furthest from consensus at at running back. I do like Dylan Sampson, although I think people like Dylan Sampson.

00:34:29
Speaker 3: They do.

00:34:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he has different flavors, but it's more than I just think that the top guys are great.

00:34:35
Speaker 4: So the knox in Henderson, I'm not saying that this is from you, is that he also like doesn't bring power elements. I kind of disagree with that. There were times when I thought that his when he knew the run was going to end and there was like a square defender in the lane, that he did try to run through them. He was a lead blocker for his quarterback and the against Penn State near the goal line and just flat lined a dude. So if you want to watch one game of his pass protection state is that he is asked to do everything and you know, pick out who's blitzing from where from multiple fronts, and he does that exceptionally. So I think Trevan Henderson is a guy that can be like a twelve to eighteen touch runner and like almost take the career arc. I'm not saying's Jamior Gibbs, but like what James Cook has done over the past couple of years, where he went from like, you know, twelve touches, then to fourteen to slash sixteen touches and then grew into that inside the ten yard line work too. And I think Trevian Henderson's game can grow into that as well.

00:35:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense, and it reminds me of James Cook coming out when he just looks so much like Dalvin Cook, and I swear I was like, isn't that worth a lot? I was like, Everyone's like, he's eighty percent Dalvin Cook. I'm like, well, that sounds great. Isn't that gonna work?

00:35:45
Speaker 2: Isn't the Cook? Isn't that gonna work? Yeah?

00:35:48
Speaker 1: Trevion, I guess I have certain types. It doesn't doesn't feel like he has as natural like a feel of how to get five if you only blocked for three. And I think those are my types of guys, which are not. No, there's a lot of those class right. It's like Devin Neil.

00:36:01
Speaker 4: If you want one of those, like, let's just pair Devin Neil and Trevoran Henderson together and we'll have a like.

00:36:06
Speaker 2: Kyrin Williams types.

00:36:07
Speaker 1: I tend to tend to like those types which are maybe a little less a little less flashy.

00:36:12
Speaker 2: All right, another guy, you're you're far from consensus.

00:36:16
Speaker 3: I'll bring up two.

00:36:18
Speaker 2: Okay.

00:36:19
Speaker 4: I have Colson Lovelin as my tight end one over Tyler Warren. And I don't think that Tyler Warren is worthy of a top ten selection, even though he probably goes in the top ten, because I know a lot of teams absolutely love him. Uh And that's not to like bury Tyler Warren is because I know a lot of draft evaluators love him. He was the entire Pennstde offense. But then they like geared everything around him, like the wildcat stuff was like truly amazing. But I just think for a position that is so traites based, like when you look at tight ends, the Pro bowlers, the one thousand yard receivers, that's a very small list. You have to be an elite athlete. Eighty percent of those guys are truly elite athletes, and we just like don't know that of either of them, these guys. Right, But then there's GPS tracking, there's also just using your eyes, and I just think like Colson Loveland is just so much more of an easy mover who offers like legit wide receiver stuff as your in line tight end and also does more than enough as a blocker onto it that I think he is the superior tight end prospect than Tyler Warren.

00:37:21
Speaker 1: I agree, and the arc I've talked about being a little down on Warren, it's just it's just you can see a player like him going really wrong that it just doesn't work at all. And that's the thing that I've I've had in my mind too much in this draft process that you know, all these guys that we talk about like half aren't going to work for what the team is true, you know, and yet it's hard to come up with You want to talk them all up, but that's it's just the reality. And Warren is a little more scheme dependent. And yet if if like he faults the ten and Genti's off the board and the Bears take freaking Tyler Warren, like they're gonna make that thing work, like.

00:37:56
Speaker 6: Totally, he is a unique runner of the mentality like just just being a bully and a hammer like I truly appreciate that from him, But I don't know if that's like tight end skills.

00:38:08
Speaker 3: He plays like George Kittle in ways, but he's.

00:38:10
Speaker 4: Definitely not the athlete that George Kittle is and like a difference maker in that regard in my opinion, and.

00:38:15
Speaker 2: A lot of these guys, it's very tough.

00:38:17
Speaker 1: It's the same thing with the wide receivers, like none of almost none of them block in a way that NFL teams look at and you're like, already, I got something great to work with. They all have to improve that, and it's so important for the tight ends. But but Warren is certainly in that category. I'll give you one more if you have one that you want to you want to throw out.

00:38:38
Speaker 4: This is going to get me in trouble. This is going to get me in trouble. I mean, I want to see what Jalen Milroe becomes in the NFL.

00:38:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, I keep big up in Jalen Milroe. I don't know.

00:38:48
Speaker 4: Yeah, And look, Kim Ward, I understand why he's going top ten, right, that is absolutely happening. But when you look at the Shador Sanders versus Jackson Dark debate, those guys have obvious flags and flaws to their profiles. You know, like Jackson Dart had total meltdowns in multiple games this past season and he plays, in my opinion, maybe the best organized and run offense in college football right now. And Lane Kiffen, who has Hey, if we have single high stuff, then we have these ball winners on the outside, and then because of the spacing and two of those guys outside the numbers, then the middle of the field isn't a traffic jam like it typically is in the NFL. So you can pick that apart. And then shad Or Sanders, I think his game, and this is where he won at Colorado was winning pre snap and winning post snap with his brain. I think he's a really intelligent player, but that offensive line was absolutely dreadful, and then the environment led him to, you know, be this retreater in the pocket. And I just think from a traits perspective, I'm not that into Shadoor Sanders as a trades guy. So like, if we bring those two red flag to the table with those guys, sure, Jalen Milroe has his flaws as well, but like it's not that dissimilar to the ones that are being.

00:39:59
Speaker 3: Mocked in the first round.

00:40:01
Speaker 4: And he's a truly electric traits player, you know, So I'm a bit there's a.

00:40:06
Speaker 1: Good tap there if he had just got after the Georgia game, whatever that was, like, was that like week four when he was still flying. I think people would view him differently. And there's good tape the year before, and he's not perfect, but I'm with you, and I was higher, I think than content. It's when I see, like Jeff Legwell of VSPN did a top one hundred board and Kim Ward was like eighteenth overall, and some people don't see him like that. He's just getting pushed up and I don't see that at all. I like him a lot more than I like Piker or McCarthy coming out to me, he is a guy that fits in as a number one quarterback in a lot of classes in a He's very similar to me, just in like level that I would have him too, when Kyler goes first or Baker Mayfield goes first, or you know, darnold people love like I think there's a lot to be excited about if if to me, the floor get It's hard to say floor with these prospects, as you never know, but I really think like I see a Cutler type career worst case, and like I hate to tell you that's number one overall pick worthy, Like if you think that that guy is going to be worst case that you get like the twelfth best starter in the league, or some years he's the seventh best starter in the league. Like, that's ass what's going to happen in a quarterback draft? All right, those are your players from consensus. Since we're talking shaudor all right, let's just hit a couple of little items of the buzz that's been out there. One from Schefter, and he put out a lot of stuff on Monday that I think was interesting.

00:41:35
Speaker 2: Because it's him.

00:41:37
Speaker 1: First of all, I said, the Giants and the Browns both tried to trade up to one, the Giants even harder, and the Titans, you know, weren't really listening, which is just interesting backstory. I think they saw cam Ward like I did, like that he was clearly far and out in a way the number one guy. But then with shadur that the question is do the Giants take him at three? That's sort of where the draft starts, and Schefter's reporting indicates there's a divide in the Giants organization, and it sounds like the divide is essentially Brian Dabeles not into him, and the front office is like, hey, can you really look at Shauduur, and that it's already being put out there that no Shouldur wants to go to a place where everyone's in on him, and they almost know Dable's not in on him, and so I have a hard time imagining that he will be a New York giant, and Schefter smartly pointed out, look, they spent a lot of time with JJ McCarthy, and they spent a lot of time looking at a lot of the prospects last year that they didn't take either. So I think he slips past and then he has information that the Saints aren't necessarily that high on Shoulduur, that they're looking up to move up from the second round, maybe to take someone that they would already calls, right that they've already made calls, and that would probably be for Dart, although our friend Adam West at Saints Block Party podcast that at one point that building was huge on Milroe and so for the right price, maybe Milroe is an option there as well, And so that would lead you to believes should or maybe not as likely to go nine. How do you pick apart all of this, because I've thought that the Saints at nine were his floor this whole time, and I might be wrong about that.

00:43:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want to be too harsh, but it kind of reminds me of that Will Levis draft where I got to it the night before and then you just like start crossing out and saying, this doesn't make sense, this doesn't make sense. And I think I was the only mock draft in the country that didn't have Will Levis in the first round when at the end of it, and it kind of feels that way now, I do think.

00:43:30
Speaker 2: That's the one you had the best one in the country.

00:43:31
Speaker 4: Or no, No, that was a different one. I did terrible in that one. That was just a little Leves draft for me.

00:43:35
Speaker 3: That's it.

00:43:37
Speaker 4: The twenty one to Pittsburgh. You know, I think Schefter someone had mentioned that, you know, they didn't expect to start the process, that Chador was a possibility. But then maybe it's grown in that direction as they've gone along. The window was just like so wide open here that it's just so difficult to pin one down and it's to the point where I believe someone is going to have to make a move for him. If it's not twenty one to the Pittsburgh of theirs, like they're the only ones that sitting in their slot make the most sense to draft him, and if not, someone will be moving up, because, as we have talked about, at the top of round two, you know you have Cleveland at thirty three, Giants at thirty four, and then even some teams that might be looking in the future, the Saints obviously at forty, and then heck even like yeah, it's it gets really interesting once you get into the second round.

00:44:28
Speaker 2: Too, Saints. Saints aren't afraid to trade up.

00:44:31
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers would draft Shoulder if they fail to if he failed to them, and I have a feeling they would just sit there and wait, and Schefter says strong consideration.

00:44:38
Speaker 2: That's really interesting.

00:44:39
Speaker 1: The other the other item from him that was interesting that was that Kirk Cousins was, you know, on the trade block, even though the Falcons have said they're not, and that in initial talks about kirk Cousins, they were asking teams to pay twenty million dollars of his thirty seven million dollar salary, not moving off of that, and that some teams would be willing to maybe pay which no one's going to pay. Kirk Cousins twenty million and a draft pick, I don't think. But he mentioned the Vikings as one of the teams that would pay the ten which is which is just delicious. And by the way, was thrown out on the very first forties and free agents back in February by Daniel Jeremiah that he heard that that could be something even before free agency happened, so he threw out I think he throughout the Giants actually as another potential team that would pay ten million dollars.

00:45:26
Speaker 4: I would I would be shocked if Kirk Cousins ends back up with the Minnesota Vikings, just from a oh, how do I want to put this a personality standpoint, like those types of things are you have to be in control of the room, you know, and Kirk Cousins does not want to go back to an organization where he is going to be second federle to JJ McCarthy. And then at the same time, if they liked him that much, like there was a clear ending that we knew for a very long time what was going to happen between him and the Minnesota Vikings the last time he hit for agency.

00:46:04
Speaker 1: Well, they tried to pay him though, I mean they tried to pay him way more than any other day. They were trying to pay three something million. I mean, now that deal looks good. They weren't trying to pay him as much.

00:46:14
Speaker 3: Very skeptical of that.

00:46:16
Speaker 2: Oh I like that all right.

00:46:19
Speaker 1: The other the other thing that I saw through out there that I found interesting Pete Schrager now over at ESPN. He always has a couple of good drafting nuggets, and he said hit the two names he thought would get drafted higher than people expect that he's heard from a lot of people were Michael Williams the Edge from Georgia, and then Colston Loveland from Michigan. And Loveland could go as high as seven. And to me that wouldn't actually wouldn't be a surprise to me. But Michael Williams, that's an interesting name to me because he's a guy I struggled with when I did go back and watch, because it's just like people say, oh, he was hurt, and it was like, okay, his his previous years he really wasn't much of a pass rusher either. So you're taking an edge that has no it's it's not just production. It's just like, I don't I don't see it, but he is a trades guy, and you love trades guys, Josh.

00:47:05
Speaker 3: Well he is.

00:47:05
Speaker 4: He's very young that system. Obviously you're working on the inside technique quite often. I wouldn't be shocked if Michael Williams is the pick at number eight to the Carolina Panthers. I think like they might prefer Jalen Walker, but to be honest, Michael Williams and just his body type kind of fits what they're doing along the defensive line a bit more. When you look at Gjeveon, Clowney, dj Wanam all the big, massive dudes that they have on the interior, Michael Williams at eight makes sense. Can I throw out my Peter Schrager He's going to go earlier there. I expect Playes Yes Gray's Abel, the intier offensive lineman from from North Dakota State. I would expect him to be drafted ahead of Tyler Booker out of Alabama. I wouldn't be shocked if we see Grays Abel to like the Indianapolis Colts or the Seattle Seahawks. He'll go somewhere in the teens. And okay, you know that that's an FCS prospect. But Grey's abel might be like one of the first intier offensive linemen.

00:47:57
Speaker 3: Off the board.

00:47:57
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:47:57
Speaker 1: For mine, it is just because he's probably the defensive player I'm higher on than consensus and maybe in the whole draft in terms of just I think he'll get taken higher than where his consensus board is is Walter Nolan and Breer throughout Albert Breer of SI throughout that he's in strong consideration for the forty nine ers at eleven, just because when I watched him, I thought in this class he seems the most likely to be like an Albert Hainsworth type of player. I don't know why I'm parrying him with another guy who, like people questioned his motor. Maybe that's but just like he could easily to me he could be the number one defensive player from this draft. So I just don't buy in this in this class where there's not a lot of premier talent, the good tape is so good that he just looks like one of those dudes.

00:48:45
Speaker 2: I just don't.

00:48:46
Speaker 1: I don't buy when there's so few blue chips that all these teams are going to let him pass because he turned it on and off and there's some question about how much he loves football. It's like those guys get taken high all the time. If they've got great tape, and his great tape is great, it's probably greatter than just about anyone else that plays defense other than Travis Hunter in this class. So that one stuck out to me. I didn't mention, by the way, when we were talking Eagles and being smart and having their assets allocated, that Cam Jurgen's got a big contract since we last did a show, So congrats to him. We talked about that a few times on this show, that they're going to get him locked up. He's locked up through twenty twenty nine. They've now given a contract extension to four of their five offensive linemen in the last year alone. That includes Lane Johnson who just had one year attacked on.

00:49:29
Speaker 2: But that's how.

00:49:30
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty nine is a specific year where I believe the TV deals and everything are up with the exact send get.

00:49:35
Speaker 2: The Eagles getting it done.

00:49:37
Speaker 1: The Jets picked up the fifth year option that they're going to for Sas Gardner, Garrett Wilson, and then the interesting one was Jermaine Johnson, who's going to make about thirteen million dollars so that they like what they've seen out of Jermaine Johnson on tape. And then Ryan Ramcheck has retired from the Saints. Just happy trails. That was more of a procedural mood, but a guy who was part of one of the best draft classes of the last twenty five years, the best and yet it fell apart quickly. But one of the best right tackles in the league the minute he entered the league for about five years.

00:50:06
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not because of Ryan Ramcheck but Saints and it might not be quite to you, but I think to the nation a quiet offensive tackle team, even after taking one last year, I believe.

00:50:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if one of the bigger picture questions to me is how high the tackles go and in what order. I don't personally believe that Will Campbell's gonna go ahead of Membu because I just don't think it makes sense that a guy that looks as talented as meant like, I hope that's the Patriots pick at four if they stick, stick and pick, and then I think the gap between Campbell, if there even is one, and the next Coleven Banks, like if it's Kelvin Banks or Josh Simmons or whoever it's gonna be, Like, I just feel some of these tackles are going to get pushed up, so how high No.

00:50:51
Speaker 4: I agree in a class that we've kind of been talking about where you're not exactly sure what you're getting, offensive line and defensive line will probably go very early. I would Expectkevin Banks to be a top ten selection.

00:51:02
Speaker 2: Oh man, and he's got some bad tape out there.

00:51:05
Speaker 1: But that's the thing with the tackle position in this class especially, there's like five guys people like and then there's a pretty big drop, so that's just going to push everyone. That's why Josh Simmons from Ohio State, who's maybe the biggest boomer Bus prospect in the class because of motor because of injury to me if you told me he went in the top ten ahead of Will Campbell, Like, we're going to be surprised, Josh Norris Will, we'll be covering it all and yeah, he'll be doing it at the same time as Legal Live. You can you know what split screen like this show enough to make it to the end. Just put them both up. You can put Josh on mute, but give him the view he won't know the difference. Listen to us and it'll be fun.

00:51:43
Speaker 2: Draft night.

00:51:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, m I put myself on mute. After that, we'll.

00:51:46
Speaker 1: Say yes, only one more show to go until then, right, is that right? Yes, we're going to be back on Wednesday. Thank you, Josh hit the music. We got Jordan Rodrieg. We're going to do a mock draft. We're gonna do it for you. Find We're gonna collect our two thoughts and we're gonna do a mock draft together. So that will be up on Wednesday, and then yes, we'll be live for the draft.

00:52:06
Speaker 2: And you know what.

00:52:08
Speaker 1: Voluntary mini camps started on Monday. The Jacks, the Bears, the Raiders. They're on the field. That means football.

00:52:13
Speaker 2: It's back.