Bobby Bones: The Price of Bulldog Ownership, Camel Bites & More

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Speaker 1: Your finger is gonna really stink. Don't smell your finger. Yeah, you're listening to in the Vets Office with Doctor Josie Horshak.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone, welcome to in the Vets Office. I am your host, Doctor Josie, and as always I am joined with the lovely miss Shannon Ella. Hello. Hello, And this week is a big week because we have a really special guest joining us for today's episode. You may know him as being the king of country music radio. I know him as one of my favorite people and my friend. Today we have mister Bobby Bones in the Vets Office.

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Speaker 3: Am I supposed to talk? Yeah? I am. I know if I was like a, he'll be joining us.

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Speaker 1: No, we're having you like the whole first half of this episode. Oh, hi, Hello, here he is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she has her dog here, and that's what she said, don't smell your finger, just for everybody out there. Yeah. So she also Josie said, bring Stanley, and I said, I definitely wouldn't mind bringing Stanley. But I've done things with Stanley before and it's bad audio because all you hear is the whole time snorting. Right. He would have loved to have come. He would have thought it had been awesome, but he just would have lost interest, which is okay, bulldogs do that. But he snores so loud, even not sleeping. He like awakes snores, so he would have loved to have been here. But this is an audio and a video show and it would have been bad for business.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So but thanks for having me. I'll let you guys do your things.

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Speaker 2: Bull Dogs are just not the best when it comes to any sort of microphone. My friend Gie I brought in with me, like when I first started radio to a morning show and they were like, bring.

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Speaker 1: Your pet to work, and I was like, oh, okay, great.

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Speaker 2: And I had to like hide her in the corner because the whole morning show is just her snorting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I can't guarantee Biggie won't start snoring during this, but so far, so good. He did try and bite Bobby once. Already.

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Speaker 3: I was about to say, here's the thing with Biggie, we're now It's like when you get in a fight with somebody when you first meet him, but then your best friends after I respect, I was some with his ear and big. He tried to buy me and I didn't move. I left my finger right there and I said, well, then buy it in big dog, you want to go, let's go. And then he was like no, no, like my hand. Yeah, so now we're buds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's two legends coming together.

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Speaker 3: How old?

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Speaker 1: But he's he's a russ Us. We don't know, probably seven if I had to guess, looks like he's fourteen.

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Speaker 3: But I have a question about dog age. And I know this isn't me interviewing you, but I'll get back to it. So what do we do? What do you guys do first? I don't want to get out of the way. So you're gonna do something without me first, or something with me.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna join us for this?

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Speaker 3: You're good? Yeah, it's all you.

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Speaker 1: These are always on editing this, guys.

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Speaker 3: No, there's no editing. This is what's beautiful about it. If this is mayhem, I just need to know because I tend to take control.

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Speaker 1: Right, I'm going to lead this and then I'll let you know when you can ask question.

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Speaker 3: That's all I need.

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Speaker 1: Got it, my pleasure? Okay. So how we typically start this podcast is we like to go dialve into a case of the week and we're always interesting, Yeah, talk about what goes on behind the closed doors and the trenches of the vet clinic. And for this particular case of the week, I had an owner come in. He is probably like, I don't know, two fifty tat it up. He's like the rock mixed with vin Diesel. And he brings his little Boston terrier in.

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Speaker 3: Hilarious, Big guys, the small dog's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: I love it. And the little Boston terrier has been throwing up. We take an X ray tale as old as time. There's something in there. I go into the owner and I say, you know, I think he's eating an air pod, but I don't know for sure. I never know for sure until I go in and take it out. But I'm highly suspicious this is what it is. And he doesn't say anything, and he looks down on his phone and come to find out, he's pulling up Spotify, and all of a sudden, I hear, do, oh my god, yeah, put your ear up to it.

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Speaker 3: Do you have to put the other the other AirPod next to it?

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Speaker 1: It works?

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Speaker 3: It was that's gray.

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Speaker 1: Fuck dumps the bluetooth. We have Miley Cyrus bumping through his intestines.

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Speaker 3: That's the funniest story I've ever heard about a dogmazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so anyways, go in take it out. The air pod still works. This is not an Apple ad people, but those things are dirty. This is like the Stanley hud for like the on fire thing. Exactly. You gotta go get some arapods.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to cut you're going through like throat.

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Speaker 1: No, this one was in his intestine, so we had to do surgery.

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Speaker 3: And are you kind of guessing? I know you see the X ray, but how do you know the precise spot to go or you know the area and then you just find it within the area.

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Speaker 1: You know you got to go into the abdomen no matter what. So then once you're in there, you use your hands to go all the way through the GI track to figure out where it is.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe it played music. That's played music and so swallows it won't.

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Speaker 1: Pass and a big dog it might pass. In this little guy, no way, I would have been painful.

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Speaker 3: Stanley had swallowed us squeak, and he was feeling terrible. I remember we called you at like midnight. We're like the bulldog's dying. But I heard him we open and that's the only reason we knew he had swallowed a squeak. Then we found a toy where it was gone, and he felt terrible, would be like and so I went and sat with him for like six hours, and they said it's in him right, And I remember sending you the x rays and they were like they they had to. They went into his throat first and they couldn't get it out to scope it out. Yeah, they were like, sometimes we can. We can find it that way because it was the emergency room. It is emergency clinic. And I made friends at night too, because all of us are there with the same trauma, like our dogs are.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you're trauma bonded, Yeah, for sure, And.

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Speaker 3: So they were like, we have to keep them overnight because we have to go in and get it. Stanley's had multiple like double figure surgeries, and they freaking got the squeaker out.

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Speaker 1: So they opened him up.

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Speaker 3: They had I think they went to throw in his buttthole. Can you go on both ways?

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Speaker 1: I suppose you could. Typically we just go through the throat.

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Speaker 3: He went. It's hilarious but awful, and he wasn't gonna die, so that was good. But that the fact that it played music with bluetooth, I mean it still had charge in it.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm telling you.

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Speaker 2: Of that product with like horses, and a lot of people were saying that it was like a scam and that there's no way because I saw him like two days ago.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I am scared to tell you. I wish I would have. I didn't. I was so taken aback and like, for sure a least if this guy's going to play music, it's going to be like run DMC like some and it was Miley Cyrus. I'm like the whole situation too.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I didn't appreciate that much of it. I just couldn't believe it played inside, just the.

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Speaker 1: Whole situation.

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Speaker 3: In the door. It was amazing Stanley want in his bowl just way stomach plays music.

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Speaker 1: Let's not do that.

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Speaker 3: How funny would that be? Okay, sorry, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: It was amazing that he looked up at me dead pan and goes, well, I now know it's an AirPod, And I was like, okay, that is a great diagnostic tool. How long you know it was missing?

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Speaker 3: Is the dog out? When you have to go get it? You have to cut it two weeks?

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Speaker 1: How long is a dog like a cone? Two weeks postop? But like out under in a season. It's like a two hour procedure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I'm not there for that part, but the cone I'm there for.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the worst con.

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Speaker 3: And I know each other very well. Sometimes I just want to wear the cone just so he can experience how annoying it is when someone has the cone on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: I run into him a few times with the cone on it, Like, just sucks getting stuck indoors a story. That's a good story.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great case of the week. And Shannon, you want to lead us into our next part.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this one we're going to do a little differently this week because there's the three of us here. So normally this is the point in the show where we get some questions from some of our listeners and we're gonna actually hand the controls over to you, Bobby, and see if you have any questions.

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Speaker 3: Over a couple because out of Boston Terrier or when I was a kid and it's my first dog that was mine like that I loved and it slept on my chest every night, and I remember it wasn't aggressive generally, but it was that Bossy was so a rat. It was just everywhere all the time that every once in a while it would bite something, and every great once in a while on that side of every once in a while it was a human. Wasn't trying to buite human that it would just bite random things, and sometimes it be a human, right, And so what it happened was and like bit the mailman or something like ninth bite of the day was a human the mailman. So I love the dog and I had bites on my chest because the dog would sleep on my chest and it would have nightmares and wake up and go bite me.

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Speaker 1: What was his name, Bradley, Bradley, Bradley the Boston.

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Speaker 3: Loved again, loved him, just had a whole therapy session about why I love dogs so much. It's because I couldn't connect with humans. So I found a safety in dogs. And Bradley would bite me. I have stop scars. But he but the mailman and the mailmaiin was gonna press charges. Now my stepdad had to we don't want to get sued. But he had a friend that he worked with that had a bunch of dogs on his property, big farm, so he took an and let Bradley live over there. And now I was I just didn't want to see Bradley. Wouldn't let me go see Bradley because I wn'd be sad. I told my wife the story, say by the boy wasn't terrier. I loved him so much. My stepdad put him out and he went to a farm with the guy that. She was like, you never saw him, You never went to the farm and saw No. No, this is too sad for me. She goes, I don't think that the farm was real. And I said, what this is like a year ago? No? I said, what do you mean the arms not real? I started to get mad at her. She goes, I think because it bit somebody. Bradley's now was not alive. After that, my mind's blown. I'm like, there's no way. So I called Arkansas Keith, my step former step bed. Oh no, I get him on the phone through the speaker and I go, hey, man, Bradley, I didn't lead him to it, So what happened? He goes, Oh, it bit the mailman. I shot him. Oh Bradly, Oh no, I went.

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Speaker 2: What.

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: And this is why you're in therapy in Arkansas? Oh?

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Speaker 3: He didn't pay money for a vet if an animal? Yeah, it sucked. That sucks to have it happen, but that's what you do in the country. Yeah, And I was like, well, he didn't go to some guy's farm, he goes You believed that. And my wife is trying so hard not to laugh hysterically because she knows I'm dealing with trauma of my door just now being told at forty my dog's dead from twenty five years ago. And also how stupid I wasn't there really was a farmer although animals went to.

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Speaker 1: Play, right, we all believe that at some point.

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Speaker 3: Not at some point. I don't two years ago. Yeah, yeah, and so I was like, what, but I remember he would just bite. So my question after telling that story, because it made me think about the biting part, do you get bit randomly? And what's the kind of dog that you know it doesn't have to be an aggressive dog. Is there a type of dog that kind of bites the most because they're just nuts.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to stereotype dogs, but there are some When we see the breed coming in, we're like, oh, we should be extra careful. I have a German shepherd, but German shepherd's up there, Rottweilers are up there.

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Speaker 3: Is that because they're bigger, so they're bite This is always in my theory about big dogs. Yea, we think they bite more because but when they do bite, it lasts longer and it's more hard.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, It's not that they bite more until comes in.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, you're a mosquito that the ain't making the news if it bites somebody.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, German shepherd is gonna rip your face off. So it's a little bit different.

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Speaker 3: You think it's they don't bite more, but when they do bite, it's more of a situation because of how severe it could be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say that's probably right for sure. And I mean also they're bread to protect, so they kind of have that like stereotype of being a little bit more aggressive, which may or may not be true. So yeah, I think they've just gotten labeled that.

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Speaker 3: Way out of pit bulls. A great dog I ever had, only if you listened to this, but you just have too many surgeries. We're still getting there. But I had him for thirteen years.

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Speaker 1: He's going to jump into him.

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Speaker 3: He was the Yeah, he was the best dog ever. And people would like be scared for a second, Yeah you got a pit bull? Yeah, And then you're.

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Speaker 1: Just then it was over the biggest baby.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So do you get bitten? What's the worst you've been bitten?

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Speaker 1: I've only ever been bit on the job twice. The first time was by a camel in bet.

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Speaker 3: School, a camel, like an actual.

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Speaker 1: An actual camel.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We were taking care of it and it reached around and it bit my shoulder. And every bite I've ever seen in my entire life, you guys, does not compare to this camel bite. You have scars. It took a big old chunk of skin out and it hurts funny so bad. Is that normal for in vet school that you're dealing with camel?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they have camel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you kind of deal with anything that comes. And this is the University of Cairo. Uh no, this is at a highest state university and they have camel. Yeah, like farmers would have a random camel, or like we took care of a lot of deer, like random things.

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Speaker 3: Did you worry about with deer? Did you worry about like lime disease? Yeah, because since you were.

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Speaker 1: Around really absolutely that.

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Speaker 3: Would be scared because just living in the country or now just being in the wood, you worry about it. Just as existing with a tick.

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Speaker 1: But if you're with deer, yeah, they are the host. They carry those ticks around and those are the ticks that spread lime disease. So definitely top three.

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Speaker 3: Bites Number one a camel, number one.

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Speaker 1: A cammebl was expecting that. I've only ever been bit one other time, and it was a dog waking up from anesthesia. I'm in that school again, so still a rookie. This dog's waking up, he's got his breathing tube in and he looks at me, like wakes up out of nowhere. I look at him, and he goes and bites down on his tube.

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Speaker 3: I did that during my colosk, the same thing, except the tubes.

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Speaker 1: Hope, oh man, this is why I love you. And so he spits out the one half and heals the other, the other piece of tubes going down into his tree. Yeah, And so I being the dummy, I'm like, I'm going to save his life, and I stick my whole hand in his mouth to grab the tube, and he just goes and bit down on my entire hand because he was probably scared that yeah, so afraid and like waking up from anesthesia and it's just their natural reaction.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I find and you're educated on this. I just lived around different animals and living in the woods, even with snakes, and I'll tell folks that don't know wild animals at all, and animals really only going to attack or buy you if he's hurt, he's scared, or he's hungry, per that's it. It's not like these animals wolves are walking around going I'm bored. I show would like to attack a human. Yeah, they don't have anything to do with us.

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Speaker 1: No, ninety nine percent of the time, it's fear. Yeah, they're scared and they're trying to defend themselves hornered.

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Speaker 3: Or yeah, if they're or they're injured, and the fear then comes from I'm now trapped, maybe incapacitated or trapped and I've got to protect my Yeah. And so they can't believe, like on the radio show, that snakes aren't just evil, and I'm like, no, no, no, I love they're not evil, lot of good for the world. Yeah, but you only hear the bad stories because a snake will feel threatened and that's why or hungry, and that's why I will attack. But I can't believe you've only been bet.

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Speaker 1: Twice, only twice. The only other thing that's happened to me is I had a cat jump across the room. I'm talking to the owner. He's all the way on the other side of the room. The exam table's out. He leaps onto the exam table, looks me in the eyes, and goes and then slaps me across the face.

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Speaker 3: Would claws out.

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Speaker 1: He was declased, Oh, thank goodness, well god, I would that thrasher mark across my face.

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Speaker 3: Okay, one other question I get, I have two is that okay, I brought to sure. The second question is what's the weirdest animal that's been brought in other than the camel? Well, that was at school. You were you were given to the camel more than the camel was given to you. But like if professional work is it's someone ever bring in like a bullfrog as a pet or.

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Speaker 1: They'll usually call me beforehand. I'm like, listen, if it's a reptile or bird, like I got to send you elsewhere. But we'll do like a chinchilla or what a sugar glider. I've done a sugar bider. It's like a little monkey bat type thing like zebras and stuff. Because of your horse. No, I haven't done suprahs. I did a tiger in fat school. I got a dental, got a tooth.

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Speaker 3: Was that cool?

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Speaker 1: Super cool and terrifizing and terrifying.

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Speaker 3: They're just so you just like you ever done a dragon?

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Speaker 1: They're so big? Oh my god, dragons and unicorns favorite?

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Speaker 3: Okay, cool? Those are the questions I had. I know I'm not the usually have questions from listeners, but I just am fascinated with and I get irritated to people who classify dogs it's the same as humans, right. We go, well, you're this kind of person, you're this race, you're this ethnicity, you're this dog, you're the short this is about you exactly. Same thing with dog and big dogs or dogs that like my pit bull that I had, or a German shepherd. They go, well, I've just seen the headlines of these certain stories, and I feel like every dog is and it's just not true.

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Speaker 1: It's not true, and it's starge. It's kind of prejudiced. To be honest, this little Chuahua is more likely to bite you than a bag. He's a Chiuala mix, long hair, he's from the streets. We're not really sure.

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Speaker 3: I felt that's why it likes me.

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Speaker 1: No, yea, yea yeah. Big dog's a big dog.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're going to take a short little break and hear from some of our sponsors, and then we will be back in the.

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Speaker 1: Vet's office with our special guests, Bobby Bums. All right, Bobby. So it's no secret you're a dog, Oliver. You talk about them all the time on your show. You do a lot of work with wags and walks here in Nashville. You've written a whole children's book about Stanley. Did your love of dogs? I know you talked a little bit about Bradley, but that this come like straight out of the womb? Is this something that you developed being around Bradley?

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Speaker 3: Like, that's a good question. There were dogs around, but I don't think we ever lived in a place long enough to actually have a dog, because we moved around a lot when I was a kid. I don't know where my affection for us for dogs came from, except for I think it was just the first thing that I felt safety and having an attachment with where it wouldn't leave me unless I neglected it, meaning left the door open, didn't So I love that freaking dog. I love Bradley so much. They slept with on the couch with me every night on my chest until they went to the farm. And when I moved to Austin because I lived in Arket, so I moved to Austin and there was a puppy meal that was raided and so they had all these pit bull type dogs, small pit bull, right, and so I did the story and one got one from the puppy mill. I was talking about on the air.

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Speaker 1: Is this Dusty?

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Speaker 3: It is?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So I was going to say, I filmed this podcast in the iHeart Studio. I work with a lot of your coworkers, and I keep hearing this name and I never got the pleasure of meeting him. So tell me about Dusty.

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Speaker 3: Uh he died not on a farm.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he was. I was twenty two or twenty three again, and we were doing a story on the show in Texas about a puppy mill and they had like thirty dogs and I didn't have a dog, and I was I was like, I like, I have a dog, and so I just went and got one of the dogs and that was it. Came to the studio. I sent somebody from the show to go pick him up and came right to the studio and for thirteen years, like everywhere I went that a dog was allowed, he went, yeah. And you know, I was never in a serious relationship. I lived in a place where I didn't have any family there. But you know, the dog was the consistency in my life, and they sleep in the bed with me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would argue that those I think there's a lot of people out there that can relate in your twenties, your young twenties, that dog that you find that like kind of grows up with you like that bond is kind of undescribable.

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Speaker 3: Loved him and it was I would practice this will maybe feel seem lame or whatever, but I had never told anybody that I'd loved them before. I mean I wasn't said in my family, never set it to anybody, but I'd practice on him. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It probably wasn't even practice, No.

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Speaker 3: It definitely wasn't, but I would practice saying it with my mouth because he didn't english a least I think he did, unless he's tricking me. But he was awesome. And then when he got older, he was here with me for a couple of years and I couldn't tour with him because he was getting old. So then I I the bus company got me a bus that was dog friendly, like yeah, like I had a place for a dog because it gets and so I toured with with a dog bus. That's amazing, and he went everywhere. The forward to my second book, Fail Until You Don't, I dedicate the book to him, and I'm like, hey, I tell you this, but your dog you don't know English, but I's you know. That dog was that meaningful to me because it kind of revealed a lot to me about me because I was actually able to have these certain feelings that I didn't know that we're in there. And then he got cancer, and he got cancer like three times, so he had it, caught it good, had it again, caught it good. And then the third time that he got it, like thirteen or fourteen, way to put him down and it sucked.

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Speaker 1: But did you know, were you like, I know my dog better than anyone. I know it's time or did I just know he was sick?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we'd already beaten it. I also knew he was old. And that was my question about years, because he was thirteen and that the myth or the reality of the seven years equals one. How true is that? And does it ever change from like seven to six to five? Like what's or is it the dog size?

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Speaker 1: That's a great question. I mean I would say roughly, I think it's fairly accurate. And then it's not like science. It just kind of helps us understand as humans to like like anthropomises, anthropomorphizes your pet, And of course little dogs live a lot longer than big dogs typically like humans.

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Speaker 3: Yeah really, yeah, exactly, your heart, your heart has got to keep pumping, right, so you don't see seven foot three guys be eighty one exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's the exactly exact same.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he was if he was thirteen. You know, seven times ten is seventy plus twenty one ninety a ninety one year old for your dogs.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly. And it just kind of helps you conceptualize it a little bit better.

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Speaker 3: I think I was really sad, but it was the one thing that I was really sad about that I was actually just very happy that I was that sad because it meant that much. Yeah, and like that was the thing that showed me something could suck. But the value of it was way more than what sucked. So my net gain was extremely positive. But I think having him allowed me to understand that I could actually get better at certain things as a human. He was the greatest. He was the greatest, and he was also a dick, but it was But that's that's what friends are.

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Speaker 1: They just came out, they just did a study. They said, grumpy dogs are highly intelligent, like usually the smartest dog.

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Speaker 3: Stanley's freaking got He's a MIT grad then for sure. Because but is the unfair thing about bulldogs. There's a lot of unfair things. They're bread. I would never recommend anybody to get a bulldog. I have a bulldog. I love him so much. But if you're listening and you're on the fence about getting a bull dog, don't get a bulldog.

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Speaker 1: So would you not get another one? Then no, Okay, nope, I think that's fair.

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Speaker 3: I got I have Stanley. He's great, right, But even he's had and he's had an abnormal amount of surgeries for even a bulldog. But he's had thirteen or something.

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Speaker 1: You like, I know because I've worked with him. But what are you talking here?

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Speaker 3: Multiple eyes, yeah, two acls, multiple eyes, His nose, yep, nose, the palette, the cuts wiener, he had like a growth on saither him or me one of us had got that cut off. He had like a butthole issue. He got the this this swallow, the squeaky Yeah, and they had to cut so that counts of the shirt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Both of his eyes have also done the weird bulldog eyelid thing.

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Speaker 1: Yep, were they rolling?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

00:22:08
Speaker 3: What is that called? Oh the cherry eye, cherry eye.

00:22:12
Speaker 1: Cherry eye, the little gland in the bright red gland in the middle.

00:22:15
Speaker 3: Wow, all of that happened. And some of them aren't as bad as others. But he was always in the cone after every one of them.

00:22:20
Speaker 1: M hmm.

00:22:21
Speaker 3: Freaking dude lives and he feels most comfortable in a cone. Well, and Nelson used to live on his bus because he even when he was home, because it still does a lot, because he felt more comfortable on his bus because he was on his bus so much. Right, Like, sometimes I'll look over and Stanly went and put the cone on just because he feels so comfortable. Wearing the cone is his comforts. But the question, I would not get a bulldog again. I don't want aybody get a bulldog, and it sucks they have to be bred that way because it's just a bunch of inbreeding. Yeah, and they can't breath. They can't breathe when they're born, right.

00:22:47
Speaker 1: So I was telling Shannon beforehand that in vet school, they make you on your first one of our first lectures, you sit down, you plug your nose, the hand you a straw, and you breathe through the straw. And that's like how a smashta is smushed face dog breathes.

00:23:01
Speaker 3: What would you say about bulldogs to people if they're going but they look so.

00:23:06
Speaker 1: Cute, I would say you need to have a big old wink account ready to take care of this.

00:23:10
Speaker 3: I didn't have a lot of money. We couldn't have no way. We've probably spent eighty thousand dollars on just.

00:23:17
Speaker 1: He's keeping the Nashville veterinary community on.

00:23:19
Speaker 3: Just medical, on bulldog medical. Yeah. But I was gonna say it is face. What sucks about the bulldogs mostly is they always look like they're unhappy, even if they're not, because their face is made like.

00:23:27
Speaker 1: That have RBF.

00:23:28
Speaker 3: It sucks.

00:23:28
Speaker 1: It does suck.

00:23:29
Speaker 3: Because I'm always like, bro, you are all right? You look like you're cranky. But then I realized, no, his face is built like that.

00:23:33
Speaker 1: Yeah he's good.

00:23:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he is awesome. He has a personality. We have obviously, Ella, who we adopted. We found her. She was extremely aggressive, and the I guess what I want to know too, is what we got her.

00:23:47
Speaker 1: She was Wait before we.

00:23:49
Speaker 3: Go to l R, I'm gonna lose my train to think, Hey, we'll come back, but I'm gonna lose it and then I'll forget it forever. But I want to ask about aggressive dogs. Okay, to make a note, make a note, boom go.

00:23:56
Speaker 1: Mental note done. The one thing I want to touch on about Stanley that I find that owners always shocked by is that they have acls just like we do, and they can tear them just like we can. And the really devastating part is that when you find out they tear the one, they're like ninety percent likely to tear the other.

00:24:12
Speaker 3: You said that, you said the other one's gone, the other one's probably gonna go too. Yeah, but I'm like a ready, it's like, well, you got a strategically pick when you're gonna have that surgery. Yes, because he tore one and partially tore the other. Yes, so we had to figure out.

00:24:23
Speaker 1: Which one to do first.

00:24:24
Speaker 3: Yep. And then yeah, it's a it's a nightmare.

00:24:27
Speaker 1: It's a nightmare.

00:24:28
Speaker 3: I'm sure for him it's a nightmare too. But at least he gets to be on pills. Right.

00:24:31
Speaker 1: But the postop process, people don't realize it months. It's twelve weeks minimum, which is three months of like very strict activity restriction. And actually, I have a really funny memory of Stanley. He's probably like three weeks postop. You're having a Christmas party. We're in your living room, and we had you guys had shut him into like his own little private room so he's not out and about because he needs to be activity restricted. And somehow that bulldog gets out of that room and comes full speed rolling through the party.

00:25:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, kool aid man, kool aid man.

00:25:03
Speaker 1: And I'm like, as an animal, and I'm like Stanley, as yes's veterinarian, I'm like.

00:25:07
Speaker 3: No, please don't. Yeah, he has a lot of he still has a lot of energy for a bulldog to be almost four. He has a lot of energy. But then he goes away and he has no energy. But he's still really he looks great. For four and he lost five pounds. Yeah, dude, you saying, hey, he needs lose five pounce. So I you know, he's been losing weight. And I told my wife I was proud of him. I'm like, I'm so proud of me. Lost five pounds. It's hard. She shows what did he do? We just fed him less, and I was like, that's a great.

00:25:35
Speaker 1: Point nine times out of ten as the owner. But you know what we can we can give him some small ones.

00:25:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great point. I really was like proud. I thought I was the biggest loser. I'm like, you work so hard. And then I was like I just edulazed.

00:25:47
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.

00:25:48
Speaker 3: And even I didn't really feed him sometimes i'd still like feed him more than I sure.

00:25:51
Speaker 1: Maybe he's like a little more active. He's putting in some minutes running around the mound. I'll give him credit, but no, yeah, okay, well either way, he looks really great. So good job to you and good job to him. Thank you. Okay, back to let's talk about her anxiety and her you know what you want to dasking about aggressive animals.

00:26:04
Speaker 3: We got her and she was extremely she was a puppy and I think she was younger than what they told us, even what they thought, because you, like you said, when it's a rescue, you're just kind of guessing. And we got her, and I think she was probably a little too young to be just living the free life she was on the street. So they put her in their backyard for a little bit and Wagon walks me, like, we have this dog here. We go over and she's just like bite central, not even teething, bite, scared.

00:26:28
Speaker 1: Bite yeah, Like I'm fearful.

00:26:31
Speaker 3: Are these large ten alien creatures humans us? Yeah, and just fight in her and Stanley. She'd bite Stanley and then Stanley'd be like, I don't eedly bet any more, so he'd be like, wow, back at her right. We took her to an aggression specialist and the trainer aggression trainer said, uh, she'll never be normal, Like.

00:26:49
Speaker 1: I'm always so surprised when I hear that, because when you I know her now, she's so sweet and loving and loves humans.

00:26:56
Speaker 3: And we were like, white she goes, you cannot put She'll grow and she'll be way bigger than your bulldog and she'll kill your bulldog. We were just like, what credit to Caitlin, because I didn't have a chance to have an opinion. She's like, we're not We're not doing that right, We're gonna and so we did. We just we were very consistent with her, and.

00:27:12
Speaker 1: I think that says everything. And really it's like the environment and the owners and old dogs can learn new tricks.

00:27:17
Speaker 3: Oh there's awesome. Yeah. The problem that we have now is that we have a yard. We let her run in all the time, but she doesn't come in the house and eat much. And we finally figured out, well Kaitlyn did that. She goes and kills animals and eats them and that's why she's never hungry in the house. She's wild. She brings them to the house sometimes like so proud I brought you a treat. I rarely eat it.

00:27:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, but sometimes when the zombie apocalypse comes, you're gonna be glad you have.

00:27:39
Speaker 3: Ler saving them. But yeah, and she's healthy as could be. Yeah, she was amazing, Like Stanley King Stanley all the perfect food. Ella goes out, eats squirrels and squirrel poop and comes back and it's just rocking.

00:27:52
Speaker 1: It's the street MutS. I'm telling you, they live forever. Okay, last, but not least and I know for myself. But in the safety of your own home, is there anything that you do where people aren't watching you that you like? People will do weird things, like they sing to their pets, they'll narrate their voices. Do you have like a voice that you do for Stanley? Anything unusual that we would not know.

00:28:21
Speaker 3: I think what happens at my house a lot. First thing that I do when I go home is I'm like, where are my friends? And that wherever they are they're two different places. They both come right to me because they know it's it's where am my friends? Yeah, we do friendship time. Love that as soon as I get home. I love them so much, both of them.

00:28:37
Speaker 1: And are you like on the ground with them?

00:28:38
Speaker 3: Sometimes it depends on Kaitlyn's home or not. Okay, so we're both. I'm very allergic to dog here. Yes, she's allergic to dog here too.

00:28:44
Speaker 1: So is my husband. So I understand.

00:28:46
Speaker 3: And I'm doing allergy shots three times a week. Yep, just for the dogs. They have no idea why. I just need to learn English for five minutes so they know what I'm doing to freaking make sure that they can stay alive. Thought, So are we do that, then that's not that weird. But I do. Where are my friends and they come? But where I get in trouble with my wife? And part of this is because you and the headache you've created in the house. Okay. I was like, they need to be created at night or then to be in their own space. And I'm like, they're let them live free in the house. Let them do. But then Stanley, if they're protectors, they bark if they see something out the windows, and I'm like, I don't want them to be in a room, and She's like, they need to have structure and understand. And I'll sneak out of them all the night and let them out and let them just live. I just don't. I get so sad if they feel like they're being.

00:29:30
Speaker 1: Trapped, like you don't want them to feel punished.

00:29:32
Speaker 3: So that's the weird thing that I do, is I will sneak out if I've put them up and let them out in the middle of the night.

00:29:37
Speaker 1: I like tiptoe around the house at many times.

00:29:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I have to get up at three thirty four anyway, so she's asleep. The only time they get me in trouble is if they see something, they start barking. At two in the morning, you're busting. I'll hop out of bed. There are two things that get me out of bed. That or if I hear a dog vomit. He said, you jump quick.

00:29:52
Speaker 1: To make sure ultimate alarm clock.

00:29:54
Speaker 3: Crazy. Yes, but that's probably the weird thing that I do is free them from prison.

00:29:58
Speaker 1: Okay like that.

00:29:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, I break them out. But my wife Kaitlyn doesn't like that.

00:30:01
Speaker 1: Caitlin's the warden.

00:30:02
Speaker 3: Well, you're the one that told her that they had to be liked. You said they needed to have stroug unless she lied.

00:30:08
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm always gonna take Caaitlin's side show. I think it's good to give structure. Yes, I don't know that they need to be created.

00:30:15
Speaker 3: Every single created have their own little room.

00:30:17
Speaker 1: Okay, well, hey, if that is what's good for her.

00:30:20
Speaker 3: For I never had a bedroom, even a bedroom growing up. These dogs have their own rooms.

00:30:23
Speaker 1: Yeah they do. It's beautiful. They also have their own skyway. I mean they're living the dreams.

00:30:27
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the skyway.

00:30:28
Speaker 1: The Skyway's epic. Can we just touch on that really fast?

00:30:31
Speaker 3: Yeah? And Kaylen never had a dog growing up. Yeah, Ever, and so for her. She was like, I'm not really gonna. I don't know about dogs, not that she didn't like them, she just never had one.

00:30:39
Speaker 1: Right, it's a culture shock.

00:30:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you're like all of them. Yeah, but we built. We couldn't get our dogs into the yard and not have access to the pool. We didn't want Stanley drowning. I've had to save them, not at this house, but I was with them and he found the pool.

00:30:52
Speaker 1: A real concern.

00:30:53
Speaker 3: Bulldogs are just bowling balls, yes, and had to jump in and save them. And so I was like, LA's okay, she can swim, right, even if we don't know she can swim. I know she can swim.

00:31:01
Speaker 1: She's a survivor.

00:31:03
Speaker 3: Stanley cannot. So there was nowhere to put them. So we built with plywood, basically the Vegas Skybridge that comes. We cut a hole in our garage. Yeah, like literally cut a hole, built a platform, and they it goes across the walkway. It's probably forty to fifty feet long, eight feet high, and it goes into a side yard.

00:31:27
Speaker 1: It's the Vegas Skybridge for the listeners. If you think he's exaggerating, like I'm here to delliy is not this.

00:31:32
Speaker 3: Is so up it and it was so rednecks. And now we painted at the color of the house. It's gotten there, but it was straight mountain pine, Arkansas.

00:31:39
Speaker 1: For yeah, it was. It wasn't something.

00:31:42
Speaker 3: I know.

00:31:42
Speaker 1: You've got like little traction on it so they can grit, can get up and down.

00:31:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I watch I had five minutes, and people like I wish I could talk to my dog and know what they said. If we had five minutes, we could understand each other. Wouldn't let them talk. I would just tell them how good they have it. And I built them freaking traction and it's skybridge and they need to appreciate that.

00:31:55
Speaker 1: Crap mic drop.

00:31:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it's like five minutes is up. Don't care what they have to say as long as they know what I was saying. Yep. But I love them. I love and you're the best. And I know it's got to be weird. I feel like we're friends because I feel like we're real life friends, because there are levels of friends. There's friends, there's buddies, and then there's acquaintances. There's people you just know, and I feel like we're real life friends. But when we first were like in that middle area. I was like, I don't want a text her. I knew you, Yeah, but you're a vet. I'm sure people that you don't even know that well that just have your number hit you up and go look at this picture. It's his dog, okay, And that's gotta be so annoying.

00:32:30
Speaker 1: You know, it is definitely one of the more annoying things I'll get. Like this. Two days ago, I had a guy I went to kindergarten with. I'm thirty three since three decades ago, sends me up picture of his dog's butthole, being like, what do you think this is? I'm like, I Jackie Anderson. Sorry I just put you on blast, but like, I haven't talked to you in thirty years. I have no idea what's going on with your dog's but hole? Like take it to the vet. So, yeah, it can be annoying, but you know you probably get the same thing.

00:32:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, in different ways. And I also understand that you'd be like I want to help you, but of course one first of all, I don't even know this number, Like I don't know who. Yeah, it's like you have to give them a new phone. Who dis And then it's also like I'm so far away. I don't have the history of your dog. Yeah, yeah, at least with mine, like you know the dog exactly. I still feel guilty.

00:33:14
Speaker 1: Oh no, we're when we're real life friends.

00:33:16
Speaker 3: You can know. But I sing you my buttole on accident and I was.

00:33:19
Speaker 1: Like, well, remember that, that was crazy.

00:33:22
Speaker 3: Yeah. It was an accent though, Yeah, and I made to send it to your husband. But still whatever. You're doing a great job of this podcast. I'm so proud that we could get it to this point. And you're so good at what you do, and you're so good at what you do here too, which has been crazy to watch. I'm annoyed because I didn't get that good until years and you're alreadily good and that sucks so well.

00:33:40
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but thank you for having me. I love doing this. Your team is amazing and I loved having you go on today.

00:33:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's she's okay. I love you guys, and she's wearing some some Jordan's Low's Panda's some dunks. We went to her h wife, Josie, doctor Josie whatever she called you, doctor Josie, doctor Josie and her husband. We all we were in New York together for a couple of days, and her husband was like, I got to get some of my tops, and that to me is awesome because I love shoes.

00:34:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, he wears the same thing every single day, black shirt, black pants and like these like weird little black shoes.

00:34:20
Speaker 3: But now as you wear his, oh it's awesome.

00:34:22
Speaker 1: He hasn't taken him off. That's like that's want to be cool like Bobby and get cool shoes. I'm like, I'm sure he'll take you.

00:34:27
Speaker 3: It's such a it's such a like a money pit. Yeah, and you can never actually have them all, but it's so it's so much fun. And anyway, thank you for doing this podcast. And now look he's asleep.

00:34:37
Speaker 1: We have a board him.

00:34:38
Speaker 3: You got to board him. I don't know how you end your show, so do you. I don't know if you do like give your guest five hundred dollars or something, but I'll let Yeah.

00:34:44
Speaker 1: So, Bobby, thanks for coming on today. I want to present you with this check for one point five million dollars for Stanley's medical fund.

00:34:51
Speaker 3: Thank you. We're almost even. Then.

00:34:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, but no things are coming on and hopefully you'll be back next season.

00:34:58
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, hopefully I reknew it for season. We'll see.

00:35:01
Speaker 1: Stay tuned everyone.

00:35:05
Speaker 2: All right, Well, that was so much fun having Bobby Bones as our guest today on in the VETS Office.

00:35:10
Speaker 1: Always a good time, always a good time. I love time. I love all of his takes on everything. But it's fun to get him out of his element because I feel like it's always artists and music and fun to listen to him talk about something he's really passionate about.

00:35:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean if you follow Bobby on socials, you know that his pets are huge part of his life. So it's cool to get to hear him kind of dive into that side of dad life.

00:35:29
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:35:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, dad life or dad life, Yeah for sure.

00:35:32
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'm excited to get to this part of the show because this is always a fun time.

00:35:36
Speaker 1: So we are heading into Paw and Order. Yes, we are here, we go, all right, Paw and Order for this week. First on the docket, I would never give my pet an anahistamine without chatting with my veterinarian first. That includes Benadryl, clariton zertech and the real reason behind it is we just want to make sure we never get zertech D, clariton D anything with that D ingredient in it, right, allegrity, Yes, okay, that's a decongestent and one tablet can kill a dog. Yeah, well I did not know that. Yeah a lot of times. Yeah, I feel like you don't really.

00:36:14
Speaker 2: Vet did not specify because we had a frenchy and she was always having allergies. Just to give her, you know, whatever allergy medication you would take cut in half and give her one, yes, but they did not specify.

00:36:26
Speaker 1: That is super duper important. I mean, zirtech at the right dose is safe, yeah, and clarit to not the right dose is safe. But anything with D on it run the other direction.

00:36:36
Speaker 2: And is that like just in case of like bad allergic reaction emergency or would you recommend, like if your dog has like signs of like other sneezing and scratching, take them into the vet and maybe there's a different option.

00:36:47
Speaker 1: Yes. So there's other medications that are prescription coming out of the vet clinic, right, that are more tailored to dogs and cats that are going to be way more effective I think than just your over the counter anahistamines. But you know, if they are having like a vaccine reaction a mild one, and you've already spoken to your veterinarian. Then instances like those, it's it is okay to give an anahistamine at home. You just want to be one hundred percent sure that it's the right one and the right dose. Very important, Okay, good to know. Next is I would never ever take my smushed face dog. The fancy term for that is breaky cephalic to a patio or on a long walk when it's hot outside, So anything like higher than really like seventy eight degrees is really might cutoff. When you're getting up into the eighties, that's when it's like the danger zone. And the reason being is we see so much heat stroke here in Nashville, and so dogs they don't sweat like we do. They regulate their body temperatures through their paws and through panting, and so when their paws are on the hot ground, there's only so much panting they can do. So I mean it can be really, really really dangerous in the summertime. Yeah, and they're panting does not quite do the job like a upherds would exactly, like, please help me. Yeah, and I had to break a cyphalics is that how you say yeah, dog? And like we both did horseshows life and stuff like that, and so I lived in Kentucky. We used to take her to horseshoes all the time and she literally traveled with like a cooling mat and her own personal fan because I was like, everyone thought I was so bougie, but I'm like, I can't have her overheat. It is hot in Kentucky. That's not bougie. That is break acephalic owner. Yes, status, like that is the way it should be. Gold standard. I love it. Yeah, get your little smush faced dogs a little fan and a little cooling mat and they will love you forever. And the shade and water. Yeah all that too. In that school they made us one time, one of our first lectures ever, they handed us all straw and they said, plug your nose and breathe like sick the straw in your mouth and breathe through the straw. That's how a break acephalic like gets oxygen. Really, yeah, I was like, wow, this is a whole new way for me to think about it. Man, I did not realize it.

00:38:57
Speaker 2: They're so dang cute though, Yeah, I mean the amount that they snort. You can just tell there's not a lot of airflow happening in the nostrils, a lot of flapping in the wind back there. All right, what's next on pond order?

00:39:07
Speaker 1: Next, and last, but not least, is I would never not microchip my pets. I hear a lot of owners say, well, I don't really want a microchip, they're not really a flight risk. And I'm sitting here right now with a fat shuahuah in my lap like he's not going anywhere. He would rather die than leave his mom. But sorry, biggie, I didn't mean to body shame you. You're perfect just the way you are perfect. But you never know, like things can happen. And then there's a newer thing going on where designer dogs like Doodles or purebreads like Golden Retrievers are getting taken out of people's yards and then being resold on Craigslist.

00:39:43
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:39:44
Speaker 1: So it happened.

00:39:45
Speaker 2: Around the corner from us once, and it was a French bulldog, and we have a French bulldog. And I was like, honey, do not let her outside because she was not microchip? Well but not yet now I know, now I've learned. But yeah, you can never be too careful.

00:40:00
Speaker 1: Oh it's inexpensive, It's easy to do, it takes two seconds, and it could be all the difference between getting your pet reunited with you. So I'm all all in on microchipping. Go microchip your dogs if you have not yet. Yes, well, thank you. All right, that's good to know, and don't forget that.

00:40:16
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00:40:20
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