Bobby Hall aka Logic

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Nora Jones and today I'm playing along with Bobby Hall aka Logic. I'm just playing long with you. I'm just playing in lone with you. Hey there, welcome to the show. I'm Nora, and with me as always is Sarah Oda. Hi. Hi, Hi. We have a fun episode today.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: Our guest today is Bobby Hall aka Logic.

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Speaker 1: He is an incredible human and I remember after we taped this episode, we were in Malibu and you and I were floating on a cloud.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. It was like the best day.

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Speaker 1: It really was. It really filled us with a lot of love and good feelings. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking today about how and doing this show, we've been so fortunate to have guests that exude positivity, you know, from Mayva Staples to Mark Revie to Valerie June. It's just so inspirational to be around people who have that positive energy. And I feel like Logic Bobby Hall is sort of the mother load of that message.

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Speaker 1: He definitely has that positive energy. His mantra is peace, love and positivity. Yeah, and he lives it. He really is a unique person. I first got introduced to Bobby through a mutual friend deep in the pandemic over text message, and it was really random getting to know him that way, and he always sent me songs and pictures of his family and just real sweet guy. And so we've become friends over the years, and it was so fun to get to dive into his music and play with him.

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Speaker 3: He's an incredible rapper, a producer, a poet, musician. I mean, he's put out so many albums and he has so many more brewing just in his brain is on fire with all these ideas.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: I definitely got the feeling just being in the room with him that he has endless ideas. He's one of those people that I could feel that energy from.

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Speaker 3: The vibe between him and his whole crew is so fun, like just it's such a good group to be around. Like when we were in Malibu, I feel like people know this about me, but I'm not really a hugger, But I feel like when we left, I hugged everybody.

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Speaker 1: I was You're hug adaptable, though I am. Yeah, I'm choosy with my hugs. Though, yeah, you are a little cheosy.

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Speaker 2: They all got hugs.

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Speaker 1: When was the last time we hugged? Oda nineteen kidd. We caught up with Bobby this summer when I was on tour in LA, right after he put out his album Vinyl Days, and we talk a little bit about that, we sing some songs together, and then later in the show he gets some of his beats going and that was actually also really fun for me to play along to these beats that he made. So he's he's an incredible performer, and this is such a fun episode and I think you're going to really enjoy it. The first song you're going to hear of his is well known as the one eight hundred song, and the subject matter and the lyrics does refer to suicide and suicide prevention. If you or someone you know is struggling with suicidal thoughts, please know that help is out there. Caller text nine to eight eight to get the support you need. And now, without further ado, please enjoy Bobby Hall aka Logic displaying alone with you.

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Speaker 4: So it's pretty chill, right, So if I have to P, I can just pee whenever I want, totally. Yeah, my bladder when I'm like nervous or excited is just P A million times.

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Speaker 1: Are you nervous or excited?

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Speaker 2: Both?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Good. Yeah, well, why don't we play a song?

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Speaker 2: Okay, play a song?

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Speaker 1: Is that weird?

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Speaker 2: I mean you play a song?

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Speaker 1: Well, I have. I don't know how this is going to go, but it doesn't matter to me as long as we play some music.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Actually this kind of sounds cool.

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Speaker 1: Actually, well, I know you might be sick of the one eight hundred song.

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Speaker 2: No, I love that song. I was sick of it, yeah, and then I was like, oh my god, this is amazing.

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Speaker 4: When I stepped away and I wasn't doing it, Like, how did you feel about come away with me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Like there were certain songs that I got really sick of, and then they've taken on their own lives now and they're mean different things to me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm like, I mean I was then but so proud of that song, you know, And I think there was a part of me that was like, oh man, I'm like the one eight hundred guy, and now I'm like, I'm the one hundred guy.

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Speaker 2: Man, Like I'm the guy who did that song.

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Speaker 1: I kind of bad ass and the song is deep and it is it's real emotion.

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Speaker 2: That was the last song I made for that album.

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Speaker 4: It was on an album called Everybody, and I was kind of rapping from different perspectives of people, and yeah, that was the last one because I didn't want to do it because I was like, oh, I know, I'm gonna have to like kind of put myself in this dark place to express that feeling on this record. So I just like put it off and put it off. And it's the last song in the world that I thought would be like a hit record.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think anybody was gonna be.

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Speaker 4: Like, yo, we in the club right now, Suicide Prevention. Oh god, they probably didn't play it in the club.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but I think that's how it goes. You know, sometimes if you're not thinking about hits, it reaches people in a different place.

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Speaker 4: And I agree. I feel like I've been blessed to have like hit albums, yeah, you know, and then I had that is a blessing.

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Speaker 2: Now, that's what that is.

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Speaker 1: That is not common anymore.

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Speaker 2: Fans man like people who appreciate you. It's amazing.

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Speaker 4: So every time I tried for a hit, it never worked, and then I didn't try, and then it happened.

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Speaker 2: And then while it happened, I was like, I'm striking while the iron's high. Then I just like had all these like big records in hip hop.

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Speaker 1: But you also you think really fast, and so you're you're creating music that's inspired fast. Oh artists do that.

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Speaker 2: Some people, Yeah, they take like five years, yeah, or they.

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Speaker 1: Put uf out too soon, and there it wasn't really inspired. To strike while the iron's hot. You have the lucky brain firing the neurons. You know.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like there's different sides of myself.

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Speaker 4: So even when I was like, all right, I'm gonna make some dope shit that's just fun, you know. And I worked with this DJ named Marshmallow, and he's like a he's like the biggest DJ in the world basically, and I was like, Yo, let's make something for the party, for the festival. And then you know, when I did my song with Eminem, I was like, all right, let's make some just rap shit, like let's just rap and just have fun. And then you know, different songs that I've done, but that one it was unintentional.

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Speaker 2: It was not planned one hundred by any means.

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Speaker 1: It's really it's an emotional, obviously emotional song for sure.

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Speaker 2: I'm nervous, don't be nervous Jones.

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Speaker 5: Jones.

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Speaker 2: That's how you know you famous.

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Speaker 4: When somebody's like says both of you your names, your first and last name, that's how you know you're famous.

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Speaker 2: Wait, I don't get it, like it's like, oh shit, it's Nord Jone.

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Speaker 4: Eating a sandwich eating a sandwich.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my bad, let me get some let me. I thought you was about to do it.

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, ship, okay, so this is what you meant by doing songs together?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought we explained it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, No, it's all good. This is this is tight.

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Speaker 4: I just think it was hilarious that you were playing and then you were just waiting for.

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Speaker 1: Me and waiting for I was waiting for you, waiting for me. Okay, okay, how how fast do you want to?

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Speaker 2: Like? Yeah, like the original.

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Speaker 4: I've been on a loak. I've been taking my time. I feel like I'm otter my mind. I feel that my life ain't mine. Who can relate who? I've been on a low I've been taking my time. I feel like I'm otter my mind. I feel like my life ain't mine.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be alive. I don't want to be alive. I just want to die today I just want to die. I don't want to be alive. I don't want to be alive. I just want to die. Let me tell you why.

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Speaker 4: All this other shit I'm talking about they think they know it. I've been praying for somebody to save me, no one to rowick and my life.

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Speaker 2: Don't even matter.

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Speaker 5: I know what, I know what. I know.

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Speaker 4: I'm hurting deep down, but can't show it. I never had a place to call my own, I never had a home. Ain't nobody calling my phone?

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Speaker 2: Where you being? You rat what's on your mind?

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Speaker 4: They see every life precious, but nobody care about mind. I've been on a low. I've been taking my time. I feel like I'm matter my mind.

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Speaker 5: I feel like my.

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Speaker 2: Life ain't mine. Who can relate?

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Speaker 4: I've been on a low. I've been taking my time. I feel like I'm matter my mind. I feel like my life ain't mind.

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Speaker 1: I want you to be alive. I want you to be alive. You don't gotta die today, you don't gotta die. I want you to be alive. I want you to be alive. You don't gotta die to day, And let me tell you why. It's the very first breath when your husband drowning underwater. And it's the lightness in the air when you're the chest to chest with a load. It's holding on the road. Who is long see alive in the darkest things, when you start at your reflection.

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Speaker 5: Finally knowing who it is.

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Speaker 1: I know you, Thank God, you Dad.

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Speaker 5: I know where you've been, where you are, where you're going.

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Speaker 2: I know you. The reason I believe in life was the day with that a little night.

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Speaker 4: I'm just trying to shed a little light because it can be hard, it can be so hard, but you got to live right now. You got everything to give right now. And I've been done a low. I've been taking my time. I feel like I'm out of my mind and feel like my life ain't mine.

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Speaker 2: Who can relate.

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Speaker 1: I've been on a low.

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Speaker 5: I've been taking my time.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm out of my mind.

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Speaker 6: I feel like my life I really want to be alive. If I didn't want to be alive, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't want to die today. I don't want to die. If I don't want to be alive, I don't want to be live. I don't want to die today. I don't want to die.

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Speaker 5: You snapped, that's it. You killed it.

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Speaker 2: And it's khalid. Wow, this is weird. I don't think I've ever been so out of my comfort zone. And I fucking love it.

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Speaker 1: But did you like it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't lie. This is tight. I just now I'm like, Okay, I get it, you get it. I know what we're doing. Wow, that was like really pretty. That was that was kind of dope. I really liked it. I gave you that rap without tune rapping.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what it is.

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Speaker 1: Life's hard, Oh my god, but this song makes me cry, especially slow and sexy.

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, I know, yo, you know what's wow your pocket? Do you know who Jay Dilla is?

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about him actually, because he's in that song Tetris.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I referenced Jake Dilla. J Dilla passed away.

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Speaker 4: He's a g from Detroit, one of the greatest producers, arguably the greatest hip hop producer of all time. Was in a group called slum Village, which has inspired me so much. And swing your swing you have like like I mean you know this term?

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so it's like it's insane.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've been listening to him a little bit recently and I wanted to ask you about him. Because of that, I've been getting into it. I've been trying to do it a little bit more. Even in our show, we do this one song and my drummer is Brian Blade, and he's he's got the sickest groove. But I'm trying to do that thing where I fuck with it a little over what he's doing. And I think it's because I was listening to some Jay Dillon.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 4: It's the imperfection, like what you just said about after I completely fucked up the first rendition of the song we just did, but on the second one, it's like it's these little imperfections that kind of make it perfect in a way and make it special.

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Speaker 1: I don't love perfect things in general, but especially in music. And yeah, I think my time is decent, but like I probably you know, I lean back a lot, so.

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Speaker 4: I even vocally, like it's just it's, you know, the closest thing I think I can think is Sinatra for real, the way Sinatra does He's.

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Speaker 2: Like and now, yeah, time, I'm just like, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well, it was hard. I was practicing that. Her name's Alessia. Yeah, she's got such a pretty voice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's she's fire.

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Speaker 1: I love it, and I was practicing it, and I love how like the groove of what she was singing is. So it's so counterintuitive to how I normally.

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Speaker 4: It's almost like saying very it's almost like she wrapped it. Yes, agreed, it's very like in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I had it in the pocket a few times. But I knew my marks, Like I knew like if I lost it, which I knew I probably would because I was trying to hold down the piano part, that I would find it in certain places. So I definitely wasn't able to do the pocket like she.

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Speaker 4: But see, that's what's fun. I mean, first of all, you have a crazy voice. Yeah, it's so good. I wish like I can't sing. I sound like shit, I sound like Bob Dylan.

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Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying. Bob Dylan has got the emotion in the vibe.

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Speaker 1: Well, so you just put out your album about two weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Right, I did. It's my last deaf jam album. So now I'm a I'm a oh wow, Yeah, that's right, it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: That is cool. Do you feel like a sense of freedom.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, like because but also at the same time, especially in my genre of hip hop, like having a label there and treating it like a bank is.

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Speaker 1: Good, Yeah, because they take care of certain things that now you have to think about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And but I'm excited because I'm also older, you know, well older, like, yeah, I'm thirty two. So it's like I feel really rooted in who I am as a person. And because of that, I know how one thing's done and I'm prepared to do it myself.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that kind of the best feeling.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is, especially because I spend so much of my twenties like wanting to be loved and accepted by people, and that's always annoying.

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Speaker 1: That's an intense thing. I mean, I think we're all like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, artists want to be loved by everybody.

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Speaker 1: But they do. But I feel like your genre is extra intense.

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Speaker 2: Very intense.

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Speaker 4: I think it's getting a lot better, and I think I'm one of the people to help pioneer that, you know, just discussing mental health and just being into things that aren't necessarily the stereotypical I don't know hip hop, can I cuss?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hip hop shit?

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Speaker 1: Hip hop shit, But yeah, I did it too.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll I'll try to keep it clean.

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Speaker 1: It's okay. Well, I feel like, also, there's this thing with rappers mcs, how do you prefer what's the I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I like the Yeah, I like that I'm a rapper, but I feel I don't know. Whenever I introduce myself, I just say musician.

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Speaker 1: I definitely think you're a musician. But primarily that's what I think is like with rap there's this whole thing there's there seems to be like who's the greatest at all times? Yeah, you know, like who's the greatest of all time right now or ten years?

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Speaker 2: Like systemically rained in us?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what is that to think that it's just like our forefathers? Yes, you know what it really stems from. It stems from hip hop's essential birth.

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Speaker 2: Essentially, it's birth nineteen seventy nine, DJ Cool Orc right, the DJ Ansom drinking Water.

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Speaker 4: And then DJs began to get these hypemen or these mcs, these Master of Ceremonies and those MC's.

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Speaker 2: It was more about hey, pardy, people in the place to be, Everybody have a good time, you know that, And then they were really there to hype up the DJ. So it was like, oh, the DJ's going crazy eighty and they're turning it into rhymes. And then it became less about the DJ and became more about the MC talking about himself. And then you know, you had these different boroughs.

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Speaker 4: You had the Bronx, you had Queens Staten Island, you had these different DJs and MC's these kind of duos coming together and being like, no, me and my DJ are the best, and it's like, no, well I'm the best, and then it's so I'm the best, and then it becomes this kind of battle. But in a way, it was really built on a very beautiful, happy, cool camaraderie kind of competition, but in a fun way. And then I think that kind of over the years and through the youth wanting to upshine one another, turned into something not.

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Speaker 1: So great all the time, not always great, but it's just a deep thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but hip hop's beautiful and I really love it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I love it too. It's just interesting to me that thing is very specific.

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Speaker 2: Yes to this intense, Yeah, very intense. Everything is intense.

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Speaker 4: You know. I think the way people feel about hip hop, which is now kind of pop culture music is it's like you could release the greatest album of all time, and then if your next one isn't really that good or received or appreciated, or it's a little too different, then it's like, oh, you fell off.

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Speaker 1: That's like Hollywood. That's some Hollywood shit right there.

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Speaker 2: That's which is like annoying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you took some time off.

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 4: I did because I was like annoyed with the Internet and social media and comments and always feeling the need to like be on it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that whole thing. That's very I think I skipped that. Oh yeah, generationally, you know, just ten years older or that is something I don't think I could cope with that in my twenties.

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Speaker 4: The thing is is I that's that's why I'm even here today, like talking to you. So it's because of the Internet and me being able to utilize social media, which is.

00:19:12
Speaker 1: I love that part of your book, which I loved. I loved your book.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Yeah, appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, this Bright Future check it out.

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Speaker 1: It's really beautiful and I liked I liked understanding that that's how you came to people. What was it through? Was it through SoundCloud?

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Speaker 4: Well that was part of it, but it was mainly just like utilizing Twitter and Instagram and you know, like kind of these mixtape old websites. Weird to call them old now, but I mean it's been like twelve years and everything in hip hop is so quick.

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Speaker 2: That's the other thing. It's like these fads are so fast, so.

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Speaker 1: The internet's perfect for that in a way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it is, but then it was so many people get like left behind.

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Speaker 2: Like that's why I'm like, I don't know how I even made it.

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Speaker 4: I mean I do, I do know how I stood out somehow, trying to fit in. I stood out and fans people around the world appreciated what I had to say, and I just kept saying it. I'm still saying, you know, peace, love and positivity, be yourself, do what you love, be kind to others, and also rap really good, or.

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Speaker 2: At least try.

00:20:21
Speaker 1: You're a really good rapper. I mean I was listening to some of this stuff.

00:20:25
Speaker 2: I was like, holy shit, thanks a lot.

00:20:27
Speaker 1: I can't even believe it, because when I met you over text message, you were sending me tunes that you were working on, and they were just they were just it was just you singing and some music.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I thought, well, one, I'm sure you and I know that you appreciate hip hop music, but I thought it would just be kind of fun while I was experimenting to send it to different people in other genres, just for fun feedback, to share it. And that's what's so cool, is like it's weird meeting you today because I really do feel like we're friends, you know. It's like we haven't spent extensive time to get well, this is our first time meeting, yeah, but we're just always talking about life or kids or cool shit and music and sharing stuff, and like that's really special to me. And that's the kind of people that I like to surround myself.

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Speaker 1: It's special to me too. I like, like, you know, you don't want to be pigeonholed as just a rappert you are a musician. I don't want to be pigeonholed as a jazz singer, you know, because I feel like I do so many differs.

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Speaker 2: I never saw you that way, though.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think a lot of people don't and some people do, and I'm not really worried about it at this point in my life, but I do think in my early twenties. It was a lot of like I felt a lot of pressure and a lot of confusion over what I was and then I realized it doesn't matter at all, and it doesn't matter what people see me as as long as I'm comfortable doing what I want to do and being myself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, preach to the choir.

00:21:57
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I feel amazing you've gone through this same kind.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm still there though, Like I mean, I'm definitely past it, but now it's kind of like I'm in this like grieving.

00:22:07
Speaker 2: Period in a way, but I don't know how to explain it, because I feel happier and better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it also was just a big part of my life, like making only rap music and being on the internet and doing all these things. And it's just different, but different. It's not bad, and I like it because it's different, and I love that me and my buddy six, you know, because he's like the illus guitar player just musician in general, but he makes all my beats, like all my rap beats and stuff. And then we've been working on all this indie and alternative music and having fun there as well in that space.

00:22:39
Speaker 1: And that'll open your whole life up to just being free and just playing music.

00:22:45
Speaker 4: You know. Yeah, I always say I say on this skit that I have on upcoming out, because I'm like five albums ahead.

00:22:50
Speaker 1: Yeah you're already thinking ahead.

00:22:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they're done. Yeah, that's what's crazy.

00:22:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like for the most part, And in one of the skits I'm telling my buddy, I'm like, yeah, man, I don't want to be on stage when I'm fifty wrapping like the vein in my foreheads gott to.

00:23:04
Speaker 2: Explode it Like that's a real thing.

00:23:06
Speaker 1: Like trying to keep up.

00:23:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just want to have fun. That doesn't mean I don't want to wrap, like I'll rap forever. But I think this kind of like.

00:23:15
Speaker 2: Hungry starving kid who gets It's like that kid made it.

00:23:18
Speaker 4: And when I say he made it, I mean he had the family he never did, you know, he made that and a beautiful baby and a wife and friends and a family.

00:23:26
Speaker 2: Like that's everything to me.

00:23:29
Speaker 1: You know, I can imagine it is after reading your book and understanding where you came from and what you went through as a kid.

00:23:38
Speaker 4: Yeah, parents on smoking, crack and drinking and all that all the time.

00:23:43
Speaker 2: It's a difficult thing.

00:23:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't. I can't even imagine.

00:23:47
Speaker 2: But it shaped me. Yeah, and I wouldn't be here without it, you know.

00:23:51
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing.

00:23:52
Speaker 2: You can't go back, right, And I wouldn't even want you though.

00:23:55
Speaker 1: No, of course you wouldn't. All you have to do is move forward. That's where I feel like You're positivity is always. Really it's really amazing to meet people who have that positivity to me, because not everybody really has it, And it definitely feels like the people who have it the most have come the furthest from having it having it ingrained in them by others as a child. Does that make sense.

00:24:25
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:24:25
Speaker 4: What's really weird is I don't even know where it came from because I really wasn't surrounded by positivity at all. And because of that, it like freaks me out to this day because I'm like, I don't know, I'm surrounded by all this negativity and violence and guns and drugs and you know, but.

00:24:41
Speaker 1: Were you always like that positive? Yeah, since you were a little kid. Yeah, some people are just born that way or is it a reaction of your surroundings.

00:24:49
Speaker 2: I don't know.

00:24:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll never know, but it's interesting to me.

00:24:53
Speaker 2: A lot of people have asked like, how did you get here? How did you do this?

00:24:55
Speaker 4: And I'm just like, I don't know, almost like that answer like isn't good enough for them?

00:25:00
Speaker 1: You know, I know it's hard to really plot out your life in that way and give answers.

00:25:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, but here we are anxious.

00:25:12
Speaker 1: Are you anxious?

00:25:13
Speaker 2: Yeah? But I'm like, it's I'm excited. What's the what's the joint? What's the isn't it piano or I forget? No, it's not to figure it out?

00:25:23
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, are you sending that?

00:25:25
Speaker 2: Yeah?

00:25:25
Speaker 4: That's something where I was like learning how to have fun with my voice?

00:25:29
Speaker 2: I just forget. How does it go? Oh?

00:25:32
Speaker 4: I thought I knew you, babe. I thought I knew what this was all about. I don't know if I could do it in the key? Play play some ship?

00:25:45
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah? Is that right?

00:25:50
Speaker 1: Are there any more chords?

00:25:51
Speaker 2: I think it's just that simple.

00:25:53
Speaker 4: I thought I knew what this was all about, cause you don't love me lately?

00:26:05
Speaker 2: Some ship? Let me let me get my lyrics. This is this is so fun? Broh like this. Sorry for all the curse words.

00:26:14
Speaker 1: Oh that's okay, yo.

00:26:17
Speaker 4: Can I just say I'm just gonna keep it real for every man in America out there. I've had a crush on you since like forever, and I say that with the utmost love and respect.

00:26:29
Speaker 2: Norah Jones, you're sweet.

00:26:30
Speaker 4: But yeah, since I was a kid and i'm and you're young, what do you like? Forty two, forty three, forty three? So it's like, I ain't trying to date you. No, I mean no, I mean I'm not trying to date your age.

00:26:42
Speaker 1: No, I know you.

00:26:42
Speaker 2: It wouldn't date you.

00:26:43
Speaker 1: We're broken married for a second, I didn't know you even.

00:26:45
Speaker 2: No, I'm not trying to Yeah, yeah, it's not like you're old.

00:26:48
Speaker 1: You're not trying to make me feel old.

00:26:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, but when I was, when I was a kid, I was just like, oh my god, this is like an angel. Yeah, your voice and yeah, you've always just been such a beautiful human being.

00:26:58
Speaker 1: You're sweet. Words about affirmation is.

00:27:00
Speaker 4: My love language mine to dog and my wife, she's she always, she's there for me, which I really love.

00:27:06
Speaker 2: If I can't I think of these these what are the lyrics?

00:27:10
Speaker 4: This is crazy that I can't find keep playing? Can you play a little faster? I don't know what I'm doing I'm just gonna I'm in freestyle because I just realized that those lyrics are written written on a page, and I'm trying to live my life trying to do your right. I've been thinking about my life like every night, you what what really matters to you? I don't know what I'm gonna do, just what I gotta do. They call me Bobby B or double B. Why I don't know logic. I came from MD trying to set them off free. You'm trying to do me.

00:28:19
Speaker 2: So y'all can do y'all too. I'm trying to do me so y'all can do y'all too.

00:28:28
Speaker 4: So break it down one time, Hey yo, I said, I live better Be. I divided beat since nineteen ninety, live better Be, I divided beat like NPC A CA who I named William after because.

00:28:39
Speaker 2: I get bills from these beats. Keep the industry, were keeping it, keeping it real.

00:28:43
Speaker 4: Of Bennie Streets go a little faster for me, a little fastert I actually go crazy fast.

00:28:49
Speaker 2: Were keeping it real.

00:28:50
Speaker 4: Little Benny Streets came up in the world That's Office acts, so all this promised definite taxes. Don't give a fuck? Who be running the fastest. My anxiety make me spin it them like a limited I'm stuck in the clinic.

00:28:58
Speaker 2: Like from the Montgomery.

00:28:59
Speaker 4: You take a step back right now, tell me, boy nuts, what your summary. Creeping through fireside, Smash the window with that fire ride just to see what we can snatch from up inside to the flashing lights.

00:29:08
Speaker 2: Come round that corner.

00:29:09
Speaker 4: Then we run and hide, praying it got up in heaven and living at night and I got no alibi.

00:29:14
Speaker 2: My damn dip to Stewart Town. That's not come riding in these parts.

00:29:17
Speaker 4: If you know in town, wonder what my homies from back in the day living there are doing. Now, runner with my sister Janie, schooling me like mister Feenie. This the first time I heard a gunshot on the block.

00:29:27
Speaker 2: Go on pain Street.

00:29:28
Speaker 4: This the type of shit. Don't never stop. He'll come to cops shooting up the hood like black ops, because trigger happy police tend to trigger happy people, and some people who believe we not equals shoot up to steep. My god, if you exist while you make life so hard, If you exist, then where you think is avant garde. If you exist, you got a funny way of showing it what happens in the after life.

00:29:47
Speaker 2: These people think they know and shit.

00:29:49
Speaker 4: And on that note, I keep a g like track four Kicking the Door by Notori gets Big.

00:29:53
Speaker 2: Don't believe me?

00:29:54
Speaker 4: Look that shit up. I promise you'll find the key to that punchline. I'm feeling just fine. Let the abyss of my mind consume snap my fingers like than on Simbobby Boy bringing the doom because I'm six thirty killing shit, hands down and dirty. That white boy can't wrap me talk good and hat nerdy. I just texted Everko by Dude to let him know what I'm gonna do. Sample Trene Flower by Tarrika Blue.

00:30:13
Speaker 2: That's cool with you.

00:30:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fine, baby, all grave it as long as you know you my baby.

00:30:18
Speaker 2: And that beats your daddy, like if he ever cheat on me.

00:30:20
Speaker 4: I mean, she don't own his sample, but she might as well because her and Diller paved the way.

00:30:24
Speaker 2: For all I've done.

00:30:25
Speaker 4: And well, I'm gonna show my gratitude, no attitude, no autotune like te Pain doing unplugged. I'm unplugged like Trinity. Wonder how the people gonna remember me? God damn switch up the plan.

00:30:36
Speaker 2: We all say it. We all claim it, but it's no use.

00:30:38
Speaker 4: The greatest rapper alive is probably stacking produce. Introduce you to my train of thought. I'm snapping on the track like the illess conductor with no contradiction. I brought my heart to this table fact and never fiction. Fuck of fable ready, And'm willing you better believe it. I'm able to spit power through these lines faster than fiber optic cable.

00:30:55
Speaker 2: I'm gone saying, girls saying something to figure it out.

00:31:18
Speaker 5: Listening, that was cool.

00:31:33
Speaker 1: I didn't really add anything singing, but that was that.

00:31:36
Speaker 2: Was so pretty.

00:31:37
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was so pretty. Yeah, so where did that come from?

00:31:41
Speaker 4: I'm still I'm still hoping I didn't seem like a creep by saying I had a question of.

00:31:46
Speaker 2: Time, Okay. I was just like, oh man, I hope I don't seem like weirdo.

00:31:51
Speaker 1: You're kidding. I loved it.

00:31:52
Speaker 2: He said, where did that come from?

00:31:53
Speaker 5: That?

00:31:53
Speaker 2: Those are already in your mind? Yeah? No, those are lyrics to a song that I've done.

00:31:58
Speaker 4: But I was just like, Yo, it's so cool to it to hear it like this on the on this thing. That's why I was like trying to catch up pocket because then it turned into what I really like is almost like spoken word, so then I was able to like you were just playing it, I was rapping. I love that I'm with you on wanting to work with different people because like, I'm finally gonna meet Seth MacFarlane and we're gonna have dinner and I'm really excited.

00:32:19
Speaker 1: I just was talking to him really yeah.

00:32:22
Speaker 2: Yeah he seems so nice because I did. He has a show called The Orville.

00:32:25
Speaker 1: I haven't watched that yet, so good.

00:32:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm obsessed.

00:32:28
Speaker 1: Well are you in the Star Trek and all that?

00:32:29
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm I'm the biggest nerd ever.

00:32:32
Speaker 1: Because I think that's where that show comes from, is his love of all bro.

00:32:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, if you look at me, I look like a gang member with these tattoos, but you look closer, it's like the Goonies and Bart Simpson and yeah, it's it's pretty crazy. But yeah, so I'm excited to meet with him because like low key, I probably shouldn't be saying this, but I'm going to put it out in the in the ethos because I love is the big band shit he does.

00:32:52
Speaker 2: I want to like do a song and like sample him.

00:32:56
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a cool idea and then like.

00:32:57
Speaker 2: Chop it up and wrap on it. I feel like that could be fun.

00:33:00
Speaker 1: He would love that. He's also just really fun to hang out with.

00:33:04
Speaker 2: Seems like a nice guy.

00:33:05
Speaker 4: Okay, great guy. All right, I'm sorry, I'm getting very distracted.

00:33:10
Speaker 1: So you're gonna go on tour when? Really quick? Soon?

00:33:13
Speaker 5: Yeah?

00:33:13
Speaker 2: I'm going on tour in like twenty days or is it a super long bro? It's insane.

00:33:18
Speaker 1: It's not why takeover, it's.

00:33:20
Speaker 2: Not really that long. It's me and Wis Khalifa.

00:33:23
Speaker 4: It's like a co headline tour, but it's like the worst dates of all time. It's like five shows in a row, six shows in a row, four shows in a row.

00:33:30
Speaker 1: Like that's the that's the boundary you have to start, I know.

00:33:33
Speaker 2: But you all right, let's keep it real.

00:33:37
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:33:38
Speaker 4: So my manager was like this is gonna be great, let's do this blah blah blah.

00:33:43
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, okay, amazing. And first of all, I'm so hyped to do this tour or else I wouldn't do it. No, you're stuck for it, yeah, one hundred percent.

00:33:50
Speaker 4: But I didn't realize it was going to be six shows in a row, five shows and four shows in a row. So I gave my word and was like, hey, I'm going to do this, and then I see the dates. I can't. Who would I be to back out of something like that? That's like would make me. So that's I think when it comes to the industry about sometimes feeling trapped, at least throughout my twenties because it is very different now. But that was one of those things where you're not really given all the information or yeah, it's wild.

00:34:18
Speaker 1: Well, so I was like that too for a long time, and stuff like that would happen, and then I hit a breaking point and I was like, I can't. I'm done if you want me to. I'm not enjoying music right now because of all this BS like you know, just too much press, I know, just stuff that wears you down. And again, very thankful for everything, not complaining, but I did get my breaking point, like I was like maybe twenty four, and then I started being very controlling and micromanaging everything and making sure that everything was exactly how I wanted it, and then it came to a point where I was just like, you guys, I'm exhausted for thinking about this. You guys, just do right and don't you know, don't do anything dumb, you know, don't do anything that's going to physically burn out your artist, because that that's what That's just kind of what happened.

00:35:11
Speaker 2: What year did you put out your first album?

00:35:12
Speaker 1: It was in two thousand and two, so I was twenty two.

00:35:16
Speaker 2: Twenty two, and then you and then you swept the Grammys.

00:35:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the album came out a year before the Grammys, so it was like a slow burn and it kept getting bigger and bigger, and then the Grammys it was just like crazy wow, and then that next That whole two year period was just really a lot. But again, you're riding the wave and you're excited for everything. You say yes to everything until you realize that you don't have to.

00:35:38
Speaker 2: Say yes to Yeah. I didn't realize that until later.

00:35:40
Speaker 4: You're talking about twenty four, Like twenty four is when my first album came out, So I started saying no when I was like twenty nine. Yeah, so I went like wild. And then when I had my boy, Oh that was the easiest thing. I was like fuck off.

00:35:56
Speaker 1: Like plus the pandemic kind of fining down.

00:35:59
Speaker 4: I'm lucky, very blessed because I had put my foot down just to I was going to take a year off anyway to be with my son, you know, for his first words.

00:36:08
Speaker 2: It's first to everything for that first year. And then COVID had happened, unfortunately. But I'm just very lucky that I planned my yeah kind of hiatus during that time anyway. Yeah, yeah, which is wild to think about.

00:36:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, kids change stuff too, you know. It just makes you want to spend your time wisely about it. Well, be careful on the road because that's a lot. But it's going to be so fun. I just got off of two weeks on the road after not touring since twenty nineteen.

00:36:36
Speaker 4: Wow.

00:36:37
Speaker 1: And I don't you know, I don't party too hard, but just the talking. I've talked more in the last two weeks than I have in the last two years, just hanging out on the bus with my band.

00:36:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, just talking. And how's that on your voice?

00:36:50
Speaker 1: It's horrible, Yeah, but singing isn't a hard ship on my voice, it's all the talking.

00:36:56
Speaker 2: Do you warm up? I do?

00:36:58
Speaker 1: I forgot you today?

00:36:59
Speaker 4: It's okay, down great? Do you ever do you ever use that thing that makes you look like Darth Vader. I use that thing all the time.

00:37:04
Speaker 1: Oh the steamer. Yeah, oh I haven't needed that for a while, but that's a good idea. I should get one of those in my case.

00:37:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just started that on my last tour.

00:37:11
Speaker 1: Would do you do you ever lose your voice when you're on tour?

00:37:14
Speaker 2: For sure?

00:37:15
Speaker 1: Yeah?

00:37:15
Speaker 2: Because also I'm like screaming.

00:37:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very physical what you're doing.

00:37:19
Speaker 2: Yo. Yeah, it's like I'm gonna shown I'm gonna really try like the dad bought approach this time, just kind of just be like, yeah, motherfuckers sing it.

00:37:28
Speaker 1: No, you can't because you're gonna be into it. You're gonna be stoked and give it you're all.

00:37:34
Speaker 2: But I'm having fun. This is cool. Sorry, Sorry listeners that I keep going so far away from the mic and back back to the mic.

00:37:41
Speaker 1: They don't know.

00:37:53
Speaker 4: So yeah, once again, you don't have to plan that. You can do whatever you want and then I'll just wrap, okay, and.

00:38:00
Speaker 2: Then you can sing some shit too if you want to, just be like, yeah, it's Nor Jones, dude. I wish I could sing like you.

00:38:09
Speaker 4: Maybe you can, Yeah, I help, my laptop doesn't die, Yo, This is a vibe.

00:38:16
Speaker 2: You can't hear this. Oh yeah, yeah, all right, I'll just just I'll just do these wraps. Hey, it's charging. I've been there.

00:38:25
Speaker 4: If I've done that, done that, This rap shit I run that motherfucker is far from a comeback. If one of us fought and we run back. Can't let that social work and just snatch up my king. Gotta get my sum back because when they coming through that system, don't give a damn about you.

00:38:37
Speaker 2: You everybody gonna die. I'm gonna go one day.

00:38:39
Speaker 4: Maybe, yet it happened on a Monday, dropping to work and get hip on your Honday.

00:38:42
Speaker 2: Fucking let it all go one day.

00:38:43
Speaker 4: I know I'm gonna get it like this, living that life of day y'all running this, never regret it the second I said it. I feel like I'm smarter, but I read it on ready, You're fucking pathetic, my EEDI guet murdered your Reddit.

00:38:51
Speaker 5: Get bitch.

00:38:51
Speaker 2: I'm a head of it.

00:38:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I'm a diabet I don't wonder why, and the hell am I right in the debt of it?

00:38:55
Speaker 2: Yeah? I know no life on nerth is so I'm predictable.

00:38:58
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, let me say yes, I fatal way.

00:39:16
Speaker 5: Fade away.

00:39:19
Speaker 4: Oh okay, all right, tell me what A ready to give for a life like this? So I'm in the leg quite like this, fuck around. When to fight like this, a hight like this, I might just might just I don't know. Mention that's my intention wants so much more than this third dimension. That's not to mention. My truest sension is a bigger picture, no metaphor. I'm being real with you, but it will hit you like goddamn. Go ahead and follow all of them, stay ship. I'm in another system, so futuristic on another mission, on another mission, on another mission is intuition. I got it, and it's switching now. It's off the tip, off the top of that dome. And I'm going home and I'm doing my thing, and I'm loving my boy. I'm loving my wife, I'm loving my life. I'm loving the things that I'm seeing. I'm trying to do me and being the best that I can because I'm the man in this world trying to do what I can. So bring it back, bring it back, We bring it back, bring it bring it back.

00:40:14
Speaker 1: Oh don't you fa away, fa.

00:40:28
Speaker 7: Fa fa.

00:40:43
Speaker 5: This needs to be a real song.

00:40:48
Speaker 2: It is, I know it already is this is crazy? Well? Those those are my raps. Loo Okay you want to do another one? Yes, I'm gonna save this. Yeah, we could do a bunch of these. Let me save this.

00:41:04
Speaker 1: That's what we're recording this.

00:41:07
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, dub Bob.

00:41:10
Speaker 1: I didn't want to mess it up with more lyrics because I didn't want to say something stupid.

00:41:14
Speaker 2: No, it's all good. But what's really cool though, is like we could literally take this demo and then mess with it. These drums, though they're great.

00:41:23
Speaker 1: No, I'm I'm kind of like you. I just want to sort of put my my feelers out there. And that's why I'm doing this podcast because I just want to play with people. That's kind of my my life goal now because I don't feel like I have to do anything unless I want to.

00:41:39
Speaker 2: That's where I'm at. Yeah, and.

00:41:45
Speaker 4: I'm at the beginning of that though, I'm like a couple of years into it.

00:41:49
Speaker 2: But I mean really like having that self like love and also.

00:41:58
Speaker 4: Power to say no because for a long time in my career I didn't know how to say no.

00:42:02
Speaker 1: Well, that's a normal thing when you're young, especially you don't want to let people down. You want to let people down, but you also you need money for show.

00:42:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, but now I'm feeling pretty good.

00:42:12
Speaker 1: If you have financial security, you can kind of do whatever you want.

00:42:15
Speaker 2: That's true.

00:42:16
Speaker 1: But then the ego gets involved and it becomes a thing too.

00:42:19
Speaker 2: That happened, but that's gone.

00:42:21
Speaker 1: Now that's good. So now it's more out of wanting to let people down or not let them down.

00:42:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I just I no, I feel free. I really do feel free.

00:42:33
Speaker 1: Well that's the place you want to be.

00:42:35
Speaker 4: Oh, plush spot, plush daddy. Let me have this guy. This is my plush daddy.

00:42:39
Speaker 1: What's going on with this?

00:42:40
Speaker 2: So this is a this is the Bobby Boy plush toy.

00:42:44
Speaker 1: I love it.

00:42:44
Speaker 4: But and my son saw him and goes daddy daddy, and then he looks at me and goes daddy daddy.

00:42:49
Speaker 2: And then I was like, well, that's plush daddy.

00:42:51
Speaker 1: That's funny.

00:42:52
Speaker 2: So you can call plush daddy plush daddy.

00:42:54
Speaker 4: So he does, and he's been at like all the press and different stuff that I've done since I put out this album.

00:42:59
Speaker 2: There's an other thing too.

00:43:00
Speaker 4: It's like this album just releases called vinyl days and it's super boombab, like just I don't even like using that word. It's just like classic hip hop music boombab exactly. It's like a tea boom bab is like crazy drums, like hip hop drums.

00:43:16
Speaker 1: Like.

00:43:16
Speaker 4: But I just feel like that's kind of a bullshit term that people in hip hop used to kind of put it in a box when it's not. But anyway, Yeah, it's like, at the place I am in my career, I could have made a huge pop album or something, but I decided to do that because that's what makes me happy and that's.

00:43:33
Speaker 2: What I love. You know what I'm saying, as you should.

00:43:36
Speaker 4: Yo.

00:43:36
Speaker 2: I just got these botox injections in my neck because I have this. I've been talking about this. I like it.

00:43:40
Speaker 4: I'm actually so hype. For like three years, I had this thing called a dystonic cervical.

00:43:48
Speaker 2: I don't have a cervix. It's just called cervical. And if I did, it's twenty twenty two no yeah, and it basically the muscle in my neck like fight each other, wow, and it makes my head that go like this. And it was so bad, like really like it was like.

00:44:08
Speaker 1: You were shaking. It was bad, like you thought. Did you think you had Parkinson's or was it a different thing?

00:44:13
Speaker 2: No, because I knew because I also have like a little tremor in my hands, super slight though, so I just thought it was that. And then I found out that it was this thing which is benign, like because there's.

00:44:22
Speaker 4: Nothing so you get botox in it. Kind of yeah, but for three years it like I didn't know what to do. And then I finally got to botox and didn't work. And I did it for a year and a half and just this month it finally worked.

00:44:32
Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy.

00:44:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm so hyped to be able to look at you and like, this is the first time in my life I'm not worried about it when I'm having a conversation. Really, and I don't know if you've noticed this, but I do. I sit with my arms crossed and I hold my head a lot.

00:44:46
Speaker 2: That's why even now, because I had to do it.

00:44:50
Speaker 1: It's just your habit.

00:44:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, now I don't have to do it anymore, and I still do it.

00:44:54
Speaker 1: I'm like, were you self conscious about it?

00:44:56
Speaker 2: Oh?

00:44:56
Speaker 4: Beyond Yeah. I mean it's like for me, that's one thing that I've always hated is like having something on your mind rather than just being able to do an interview or have a conversation.

00:45:11
Speaker 1: I know what you mean. Really, Yeah, I don't get too in my head about stuff.

00:45:18
Speaker 5: But.

00:45:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I feel like now I'm better. But that was a little different, just because I was like shaking and.

00:45:27
Speaker 1: Shit, well that's kind of scary.

00:45:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was never fun.

00:45:31
Speaker 1: I blink my eyes a lot and then I stopped caring though I can control it.

00:45:35
Speaker 2: But is it a tick.

00:45:36
Speaker 1: It's a total tick, and I've had it my whole life. But it comes and goes with stress. And sometimes I don't do it at all, and sometimes I do it a lot, but I think I just don't care anymore.

00:45:45
Speaker 2: Isn't that cool? It makes you you?

00:45:47
Speaker 1: It does, but it's a little when it's intense, it's a little.

00:45:50
Speaker 2: Like, okay, do you do you drink alcohol?

00:45:54
Speaker 1: Yes?

00:45:55
Speaker 2: So when you I feel you, I literally smell.

00:46:00
Speaker 1: It off of mean, I had some drinks last night.

00:46:02
Speaker 4: That response is like, I feel it.

00:46:06
Speaker 2: Does it go away when you drink?

00:46:09
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I've never thought about that.

00:46:11
Speaker 2: You should check it out.

00:46:12
Speaker 4: That's how I knew my head wasn't essential tremor, because in a central tremor, a shake, Oh my God goes away.

00:46:18
Speaker 2: When you're like wasted neurologically.

00:46:20
Speaker 1: Sarah, let's have a drink tonight. You can tell me if I'm blinking my eyes.

00:46:24
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, get you just have like a gnarly scotch. What do you drink? What do you like to drink?

00:46:29
Speaker 1: I go back and forth. I like wine, but then it's too like intense, and I like vodka, but then I don't want to drink too much vodka. I like, I like, I like in my you know, the last few years it's been good to just sort of take it easy and not drink quite as much. I did drink quite a bit in my twenties and thirties.

00:46:49
Speaker 4: I'm on my I'm at the end of that. Now you can't ask my friends. I talk about it all the time.

00:46:54
Speaker 5: End of what.

00:46:55
Speaker 4: Well, I didn't drink so I was about twenty eight, twenty seven. Yeah, okay, So these last four years have been like I've been raging.

00:47:02
Speaker 1: Does that work out with the baby waking up in the mident?

00:47:05
Speaker 2: I have a nanny.

00:47:05
Speaker 1: Oh, there you go.

00:47:06
Speaker 2: I sleep through that.

00:47:07
Speaker 1: Then you can drink.

00:47:08
Speaker 2: No, I'm kidding.

00:47:09
Speaker 4: I was there when before we had a nanny, no, and his mom gets up, then nanny doesn't get up. But anyway, so now like I'm finding that balance, yeah, because it's.

00:47:19
Speaker 1: Hard to find it because sometimes I'll drink too much because I know I'm gonna take some time off of drinking, and it's like this whole weird binge purge thing. But I don't. I really don't have a I don't get super drunk, like I'm done.

00:47:34
Speaker 2: That's how I feel.

00:47:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm usually done by seven o'clock. I really like having wine with dinner now and then I'm done and I go to bed early.

00:47:43
Speaker 2: True.

00:47:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, but on the road, it's been interesting because I haven't been on the road until long.

00:47:47
Speaker 2: You get to vibe so fine.

00:47:48
Speaker 1: I have a drink after the show, but I don't drink during the show anymore. I used to always have a drink during the show, during the show, just to calm my nerves. Not too much, but just a little before and a little on the side during the show. And that's hard. That's a hard balance to follow.

00:48:04
Speaker 2: That sounds awesome, though, that's like some rat pack at the sands. Shit. Yeah, exactly.

00:48:09
Speaker 1: If I had to do verses like you do, I wouldn't be able to do it.

00:48:13
Speaker 2: Wow, I don't know how.

00:48:14
Speaker 4: I recorded like ninety percent of my last album pretty drunk.

00:48:19
Speaker 2: Really because I didn't give a shit. I was just having fun. I was like, I'm getting the hell off this this last album. I'm getting off this, I'm getting off deaf jam whatever, here's this album. And it actually turned out to be like one of the illest albums because I.

00:48:31
Speaker 1: Was free because you were free like that, because I was drunk. No, because I was drunk so kids at home. Yeah no, but I like but that's the balance part is like you you like how it frees you up, and that's why I enjoy drinking and singing sometimes or playing around. But it's just you know, then it gets really I get really I sing really out of tune when I'm wasted, So I definitely can't do that anymore. Really, Yeah, why, I don't know.

00:49:00
Speaker 2: Maybe you're just not like you're so.

00:49:03
Speaker 1: Loose it's too loose. Yeah, I'm already loose enough. I feel like I'm pretty.

00:49:07
Speaker 4: I feel like out a Key for You is like the best song I ever sang for me.

00:49:13
Speaker 1: I had this country band for a while called the Little Willies, and we used to play in the bars in New York and it was just we just drank constantly and singing country songs like that was pretty fun.

00:49:26
Speaker 2: Wow.

00:49:26
Speaker 1: But at the end of the night, I would be like, just it was too much. I can't take it anymore. I don't feel good.

00:49:34
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Do you work out?

00:49:35
Speaker 1: I only started to this year. I try, but I like, I like. I work out like a couple times a week with a trainer on FaceTime, which is great. But then the rest of the week I try to hike or yeah, do a sport. That's how I can do it.

00:49:49
Speaker 2: Do you ever just be so busy?

00:49:51
Speaker 4: Though, Like I feel like in our line of work, and it really isn't an excuse. It's like in between press sessions, recording family like all, it's really hard.

00:50:01
Speaker 2: It's hard to make time.

00:50:03
Speaker 1: It's hard to make time, but I feel like it's something you have to book into your schedule and then you will have time for it. But it's annoying, but it's true, Like if you don't plan it as part of your day, yeah, and you don't carve out that little time. I learned that from this guy who taught me meditation. Do you have you ever tried meditation?

00:50:23
Speaker 2: A little bit?

00:50:23
Speaker 1: I learned how to do TM, the Transcendental Meditation, and it really helped me a lot because I felt like it was a good way to learn how to meditate without having to worry about anything. It sort of freed me up to just like if thoughts come in, it's not a big deal. That's how it made me feel. But anyway, he told me that if I don't put it in my schedule every day, I won't do it, and he was right. And I think it's the same thing with exercise.

00:50:47
Speaker 2: I'll do that.

00:50:47
Speaker 1: Am I preaching now? Am I?

00:50:49
Speaker 2: No?

00:50:50
Speaker 5: Not at all.

00:50:50
Speaker 4: It's like it's a refreshing reminder. I went for a little walk with my son today.

00:50:55
Speaker 1: That's nice.

00:50:55
Speaker 4: It was like five minutes, but it was because then he wanted to go to the elevator because we live in this condo.

00:51:00
Speaker 1: Oh, they love elevators, elevators, elevators.

00:51:03
Speaker 2: So, Nora Jones, you're biracial.

00:51:05
Speaker 1: I am, yeah, how's that? Let's cut to the chase. I grew up with my mom in Texas and my dad is he died about ten years ago.

00:51:20
Speaker 2: But I'm sorry.

00:51:21
Speaker 1: Oh, it's things. He was really old and wonderful. He was a brilliant guitar player, as you know. Didn't you send me that record?

00:51:28
Speaker 2: Oh? I know, yeah, Okay.

00:51:30
Speaker 1: Sometimes I meet who don't know and I'm like, really, like that's like something people know. So, yeah, I grew up with my mom and I didn't grow up around my Indian side at all until I was like eighteen, and then we got really close, which was great, but like I've always felt a little confused about what I am.

00:51:49
Speaker 2: Dude, Yeah, I feel you, yeah, I know you do.

00:51:52
Speaker 1: So because also I grew up in Texas. Oh and I look Mexican. Yeah, so people would always speak Spanish to me and I couldn't speak Spanish, and then I would feel bad.

00:52:02
Speaker 4: Oh man, Yeah, everybody in my house was black. So I'm like, you know, this is a joke. But it's like I go to school and you know, it's my first day at school and I see all the black kids and I go hang out with them, and then you just hear, oh, there's a white boy over there, let's kick his ass.

00:52:19
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, where's he at? And the next thing I.

00:52:22
Speaker 4: Know, you know, I'm walking home with a fat lip, and I look at looking at everybody in my family and their complexion. I'm looking at myself like you guys leave me in a house fire or something like what's going on? But being white and black, but looking white and being black is like the weirdest.

00:52:35
Speaker 1: Thing, well, especially now, and I just feel like it. I'm proud of it, though I know you're proud of it, and as you should be. Who you are is who you are, and it's nobody's business to tell you who you are.

00:52:46
Speaker 2: But people should tell that wrap.

00:52:48
Speaker 1: People share as hell want to tell you who you are, especially in the wrap. You know, the world, yeah, the world, but also just the world right now especially Yeah.

00:52:57
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.

00:52:59
Speaker 4: I think everybody's got I think a lot of people who shouldn't.

00:53:01
Speaker 2: Really this is weird.

00:53:04
Speaker 4: But it's like have a voice, if you will. Everyone has a voice because of social media.

00:53:11
Speaker 1: It's too many voices.

00:53:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like too many voices. It's just like too.

00:53:14
Speaker 1: Many opinions, and it's like it's like sheeple too.

00:53:17
Speaker 4: It's like somebody will say something and nobody even can have their own thought, like even with albums, like music has changed so much.

00:53:25
Speaker 2: It's wild.

00:53:26
Speaker 1: Well, even music critics, you know, like to a point they'll say something is one thing and then people will just kind of pile on to it. But now everybody's a critic. Yeah, everybody's a critic.

00:53:37
Speaker 2: It's so true though, because you know what it is.

00:53:40
Speaker 4: It's like people who used to you know, myself included as a kid my family, like just being at home and like watching a movie and be like this guy's ugly and you just like say that out of your mouth because you're just like ten years old or a teenager or whatever, or.

00:53:56
Speaker 2: Oh this show sucks.

00:53:59
Speaker 4: Now people are tweeting that, yeah, at like the producer of the show, Like it's like, oh my god, it's like not even that you're just saying it. You're like intentionally hitting these people up. It's kind of a weird thing.

00:54:11
Speaker 1: It's it's a completely totally weird.

00:54:15
Speaker 2: Have you ever gotten any hate online?

00:54:16
Speaker 1: I don't go online. I learned that lesson in like two thousand and three. Wow, because when my first record came out also, it was it was just a weird thing. My dad being who he was, I got a lot of the daughter.

00:54:31
Speaker 5: Of Robbie Shunkar don't you hate that.

00:54:33
Speaker 1: I hated it so much, but not because I hated my dad. Of course, I loved my dad, but because I grew up and became the musician, I was separate from him without even having being close with him until later.

00:54:45
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:54:45
Speaker 1: So also, you know, it was just a lot of baggage. I just had a lot of baggage with it. And then people were telling me who I was, and I was like, well, that's actually an interesting part of my story, but it's not the headline. Yeah, for me and my music at the time, you know. So that's what's weird about it all. But that's just human nature. They like people like to put things in compartments and sound bites.

00:55:12
Speaker 4: You know, I agree, you're cool. You're cool too, I try.

00:55:18
Speaker 2: Gaithersburg is where I first listened to your music.

00:55:20
Speaker 1: Ever, that's funny.

00:55:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, you like, walk into Starbucks and it's like, hey, Noah Jones.

00:55:26
Speaker 1: I'm the coffee house queen babe. I hated that too, but hey, really, why I think, you know, any any cliche you become is so not what you think of yourself. Yeah, but it's fine. Hey, you know, when I learned did not care about the coffee house music thing when I went into a Starbucks and they were playing Billie Holiday and I was like, all right, I'm good, I'm in good company.

00:55:48
Speaker 2: True fine with me. Yeah, that's pretty awesome.

00:55:51
Speaker 4: I've actually I forget which album it was I bought from a Starbucks.

00:55:55
Speaker 1: Oh perfect. Yeah, they used to sell albums, which is actually very good for me. Thanks Starbucks.

00:56:00
Speaker 2: I forget which one. It was a fire one.

00:56:01
Speaker 1: I think they helped, you know, make that album big in the beginning, they were selling CDs.

00:56:06
Speaker 2: Why do we run from things as.

00:56:09
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is, it's like, oh no, don't put me in this box, even though it's like it's.

00:56:13
Speaker 1: Like where you live.

00:56:14
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I don't know.

00:56:16
Speaker 1: I think as you get older, it becomes more clear and you embrace certain things. But I think people telling you who you are is really annoying, and that's maybe part of It's.

00:56:28
Speaker 4: Like I've had fun, like, you know, doing my little singing thing and respectfully like yeah, I make jokes and stuff like you're like a legendary musician, like for real, like seriously, right, and so no it's true, like you're the bomb. So but I know I'll never be able to do what you do, and there was a time when I really wanted to be able to do that, you know, and musicians and people like I could never It's just I'm not Freddie Mercury. It's not happening, bro. But I am pretty good at rapping. And so when I understand that I could sing and have fun playing guitar and do all this other stuff, but to know that my secret weapon is rap, Like when I realized that, I was like wow, because even before I was like kind of singing on your piano a little bit, and I'm like, oh, this is fun.

00:57:19
Speaker 2: This is fun. And then I'm like, all right, fuck that, let's go, and then I rap. It is pretty cool.

00:57:24
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:57:24
Speaker 2: So I think it's important for people to know, even just outside of creatives, like whoever you are, Like you don't have to like a TV show just because all your friends like it, or you don't have to be into this band or group or musician just because your parents say so. It's like, it's okay to be you.

00:57:42
Speaker 4: But I think sometimes we want to fit in or be something else, and I don't know why that is.

00:57:48
Speaker 1: I think it's just I don't know the way humans work. But that's so spot on what a fire title, the way humans work, let's do it. But that spot on, and I use that word secret weapon a lot. I feel like I have a superpower. Yeah, and it's you know, when I get in my zone of music and singing and playing, but like in the way I do it. I mean, for a long time, I just played piano and I would sing. But then I realized when I put them together, people really listened. Oh wow, And I was like, all right, that's my secret secret weapon. I sing along and it's going to be cool. And I'm not like it. I mean, I'm pretty happy with the way I played piano now. But you know, I don't play like Robert Glassbert. You know, I don't have those kind of chops. But I have my own thing and I have my own lane, and it's it makes me who I am, and it is important for people to remember that if they're not creatives.

00:58:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, for sure. This is so tight. This is cool. I'm so glad that you like, I'm on your show.

00:58:49
Speaker 4: Me too.

00:58:50
Speaker 1: I'm just playing. You put tetras out a few months back, right, Yeah, I was like, holy shit, who's a badass. I loved it.

00:59:03
Speaker 2: That so the fun beat. Is the thing of the story about that is there's this Jay Dilla song off his album Welcome to Detroit, and it's called shouts Alt version, so it's like the alternate version of the original, which was over a completely different beat. And I took the beat that he did, and I just I had like.

00:59:28
Speaker 4: A little task AM cassette player four track and an SM fifty eight. So for those of you listening, like a stage mic, kind of like a classic stage mic that people are singing to and use.

00:59:40
Speaker 2: And I just wrapped these lyrics. So that's why I say rest in peace, Jay Dillon. I'm like, Jay, you know diyla Beat's got me reckless? Yeah, because I'm rapping over at Dila beat. And then like a week later, I decided, oh, we're going to do Vinyl days the album and we did it in twelve days. We did the whole thirty tracks.

01:00:00
Speaker 4: So we did.

01:00:02
Speaker 2: That, and then that's when I asked six. I was like, yo, can you make drums kind of like these Dila drums? And then I went grabbed a Vinyl, threw it in through my NPC and able to chopped it up and then made the rest of the beat.

01:00:15
Speaker 1: The instrument disagree. I mean as soon as it starts, I was.

01:00:19
Speaker 2: Like, oh, thank you. Did you see the video?

01:00:22
Speaker 5: I didn't.

01:00:23
Speaker 2: The video is like we shot it for free ninety nine on a GoPro and I'm just.

01:00:26
Speaker 4: Like, all right, I'm gonna sound boogie here. But like when I fly, I don't fly private. Do you fly private?

01:00:33
Speaker 1: I'm not that rich.

01:00:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't fly private. I fly commercial, but I'll have like greeters. You know about that.

01:00:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, you know what's up?

01:00:42
Speaker 1: I know about the greeterer.

01:00:43
Speaker 2: Yeah.

01:00:43
Speaker 4: So the greeters picked me up in this Porsche on the tarmac and I'm like, yo, fuck that.

01:00:49
Speaker 2: I'm shooting this music video real.

01:00:50
Speaker 4: Quick, and I'm just like in the airport like runway, wow, just rapping.

01:00:55
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't have greeters like that, but I'm gonna I'm gonna dial that back.

01:00:59
Speaker 2: Oh no, I got you. I could hook it up. Okay, do you want to sing on this or no?

01:01:06
Speaker 1: I don't know what to sing.

01:01:07
Speaker 2: You could just like sing some dope shit at the end.

01:01:10
Speaker 1: Oh dope shit. Okay, yeah, I'll do that.

01:01:12
Speaker 2: So shit, can you play the drums? Bob?

01:01:17
Speaker 1: And it's okay if I don't. She's the chords and side.

01:01:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do whatever you want. I'm just gonna rap. I'm probably gonna mess this up. Are we on different headphones? Can you turn mine up? So, Kyle, if you could, this is where I have to like rap intensely. So I just wanted to be very loud and louder louder, Oh, louder louder. Okay, just don't turn it up, don't turn norsm. I listen to music way louder than I should.

01:01:54
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful, I know, but it's inspiring. I know, I don't I listening with music really.

01:02:00
Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, you can give a fuck about the metrics. Roll up in a beam of belly lexus logic. Stay connected on the block, bitch, I'm tetris. Snatch your necklace. De la beat's got me reckless. Even if you're new the whole plan coodn't protect this, don't deflect it, you motherfuckers is defective. So get back on that assembly line. I'm schooling these them seas with assembly rohms. I'll be goded by the end of my time, more tracks than am tracked. By the end of the line. I'm harder to find membland state of minds, from the wounds to the pond in my room with a pen and the pad and mad lines like.

01:02:29
Speaker 2: A theme park.

01:02:30
Speaker 4: My life was full of action, like when the scenes start, think I need the LSU tripping, like when they playing the part. You know why I've been killing the game for the start. I'm the reason your kids afraid of the dark. I'll leave you bank rough for real. Can't pay your life bill. How you feel stupid? Motherfuck god? Yeah, you gotta deal, but you spent your whole advance on the chain. I invent the mind in crypto and now I'm selling out to Spain.

01:02:50
Speaker 5: Ha.

01:02:50
Speaker 2: My got three hundred feet.

01:02:52
Speaker 4: Everything that I attained all came from cutting teeth han so flow, I'm so sharp A cut the sheet good grief only undercovering from cutting under sheet. No my host style, check the profile, merried man. I ain't fucking with bitches these whole wild I'm so in it that I'm infinite. I'm so in it that I'm infinite. Yeah, So what's the deal?

01:03:10
Speaker 5: Now?

01:03:10
Speaker 2: You know? We keep it real?

01:03:11
Speaker 4: Now strapped to the t, I will grab the t. Now, what's the deal? Now you know? We keep it real now strapped to the t I will grab it still now fuck the metrics roll up in a beam of Billy lexus LOGI stay connected on the block, bitch, I'm tetris. Snatch your necklace then labit's got me reckless with suck.

01:04:09
Speaker 2: Ud It's quick. What's that face?

01:04:58
Speaker 5: He applause? Right now?

01:05:04
Speaker 2: Love it? Okay, bob yo.

01:05:07
Speaker 4: This is like Actually, as I'm doing this, I'm like, Yo, this is the most gangster shit logic.

01:05:11
Speaker 2: And Norah Jones like what has happened acoustically?

01:05:14
Speaker 4: This is so this is like actually really cool. I'm so I'm so upset that I wasn't more prepared.

01:05:21
Speaker 1: Oh no, I think it would have been weird to be more prepared for this kind of thing.

01:05:24
Speaker 4: And I'm a sick oh like I if they're oh you don't even over prepared, bro, yes, because I'm like a professional, Like there's no way, Like I had one the first show I did in three years was sound some bitcoin festival I did in Florida.

01:05:40
Speaker 2: And I was headlining, and I was like, oh snap for two months before I literally lightly jogged on my treadmill mid winter in Oregon and just went over lyrics. I hadn't like songs, I hadn't even performed in seven or eight years.

01:05:57
Speaker 4: I was like, I want to do the class six if you will. From my fans, I.

01:06:02
Speaker 1: Think they were going to give you bitcoin? Is that why you were?

01:06:05
Speaker 2: They actually did pay me partially in bitcoin.

01:06:07
Speaker 1: That's kind of.

01:06:07
Speaker 2: Amazing, that's kind of cool.

01:06:09
Speaker 1: I'm opposite. I'm I think about things a lot, and I'm a procrastinating preparer, if that makes sense.

01:06:16
Speaker 2: How do you remember your lyrics?

01:06:17
Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't, but I don't have nearly as many as you do. Dude, you know sometimes they're just in there somewhere rolling around.

01:06:24
Speaker 2: That's why I'm happy. What I told you about my in.

01:06:26
Speaker 1: Ears, So you what do you tell me again?

01:06:29
Speaker 4: So I have my in ears in and I have playback through Ableton. Do you have playback or is everything live?

01:06:35
Speaker 1: Everything's live?

01:06:35
Speaker 2: That's so tight.

01:06:36
Speaker 1: Well, but the music, you know, your type of music, it makes it? Yeah, No, of course mine it kind of does. I know.

01:06:42
Speaker 2: That's where I'm like jealous.

01:06:43
Speaker 1: Well, that's why my sense of time is so elastic because I like it like that.

01:06:48
Speaker 2: That's dope. Yeah.

01:06:50
Speaker 4: So I use these in ears and I can hear everything. I can hear my microphone. It's just like wearing headphones. Yeah, but they're molded literally for like the canal of.

01:07:00
Speaker 2: Your ear, and.

01:07:04
Speaker 4: The crowd will hear the beat and maybe sometimes some background vocals or I'll let the hook kind of you know, do its thing through the PA system.

01:07:15
Speaker 2: But my actual verses I can hear. And the reason I do that is in case I fuck up. Like it's like a good contingency to.

01:07:24
Speaker 1: Have because there's so many words and it's moving so fast. Otherwise it would be really hard, right Like dude.

01:07:31
Speaker 2: My song with eminem fuck rap us not like an adequar to semi automatic? Who had it any ready for anybody to buck back, hold catcha vib and when we leave, nobody alive even suicide, no fuck that. Bobby feeling villainousity killing do some come up with your man and his lady and even a baby. I'm feeling like I'm you got to get you get slam shady with babies and film at the mouth. Anybody taking me out, every single rep in an industry, yet they know what I'm about, and I did get to test me how one of you motherfuckers like bro Like it's like exactly no it's insane, but but I love it and it's fun. But I think it's good to have that as a contingency because I have so many, so many lyrics in my head and I can't place them. That's really it's weird.

01:08:06
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of wild how many words there are to me? To me like that, you just did one whole song of words for me basically in one tiny verse.

01:08:17
Speaker 2: You're crazy, Yeah, but I see, I think.

01:08:21
Speaker 4: And that's why when I've like kind of experimented with other genres of music that the less you say, sometimes the more you say with the emotion that's in your voice. Or like these runs, these beautiful runs, I can't.

01:08:34
Speaker 2: Run like that. You want to hear me run? That's how I sound.

01:08:38
Speaker 4: Okay, So it's like using this your voice, like you could not say a word and tell a million stories, dude, And yeah, it's crazy.

01:08:46
Speaker 2: You me personally.

01:08:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know on the flip and this is just what we were talking about before. Yeah, Like I can't do what you do, and what you do is super special.

01:08:58
Speaker 2: Mutual appreciation.

01:08:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love you so much. I'm so.

01:09:03
Speaker 2: Awesome.

01:09:03
Speaker 4: Yo, fourteen year old me nor Jones just said, you love me, I love you, and and thirty two year old of me Norah Jones.

01:09:11
Speaker 2: Said she loved you.

01:09:12
Speaker 1: No, I'm just I'm just like so happy we became friends. Yeah, I know, so random.

01:09:17
Speaker 2: It's you know what, I believe, dude, what I don't know why And I don't know.

01:09:20
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to sound weird, like whenever we text we talk about family and things like that, I feel like.

01:09:27
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to sound like a creep, like connected to you, like it like like emotion, Like I don't know how to explain. I'm not really into the stars and shit, but I don't know. You have a beautiful spirit. And it's like I'm talking to like I don't know my sister.

01:09:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I feel the same way.

01:09:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird.

01:09:44
Speaker 1: It was always easy, and I'm so glad we got to finally meet and do this. Shout out Tanner Colby, Tanner Colby, thanks man.

01:09:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tanner Colby helped me make my my memoir what it is.

01:09:55
Speaker 1: And he is the father of one of my son's preschool friends.

01:09:59
Speaker 2: Yeah.

01:10:00
Speaker 1: So he's a friend from like a school kid friend parent.

01:10:03
Speaker 2: What's crazy is he was like he was like, yeah, I know.

01:10:06
Speaker 1: Uh.

01:10:07
Speaker 2: He was like you ever heard of Nora Jones. I'm like what He's like, He's like, yeah, kids know each other. I was like, oh my god. I was like tell her. I said hi, and he was like okay, and I was.

01:10:16
Speaker 4: Like what And then he really did it, and then you were like oh yeah, I know okay, and then now we're friends.

01:10:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, so cool.

01:10:22
Speaker 1: It was so cool and random. Yeah, well thanks for doing this. Oh is that it? So?

01:10:27
Speaker 2: What I say? Do? I say goodbye to the people listening?

01:10:29
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. We can we can fade it out.

01:10:31
Speaker 2: Okay.

01:10:33
Speaker 1: I think we're going to end on you saying that you had a crush on me. Basically, we're just going to replay that part.

01:10:38
Speaker 2: Yeah a thousand times. Oh my goodness, I'm just playing.

01:10:50
Speaker 5: All right.

01:10:50
Speaker 1: That was our show. That was Bobby Hall aka Logic.

01:10:54
Speaker 3: I love that he had no idea what he signed up for and yet he was totally game and was just went with the flow on the spot.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: I love that first song we did where he kept waiting to see what was going to happen and I was just waiting for him to sing and he didn't know because I asked him to do it, and he said, yes, I don't even need to know more. I'm excited to do whatever. And I was like, great, that's nice, but don't you want to hear we're actually going to be playing songs. So it was cool he went with it. This is live people, Yeah, I mean, this is the funnest kind of interaction when somebody's just game.

01:11:29
Speaker 5: Yeah.

01:11:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you discover things on the spot because it's not overrehearsed.

01:11:34
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I'm pretty that's my thing, as you know, I'm not a good rehearser And I'm sitting there and he's rapping and it's really fast and intense, and it's just it was kind of electric. I couldn't believe that it was right there next to me, you know what I mean.

01:11:49
Speaker 3: It was just I felt like it went both ways too, because for him to hear his music in this different, stripped down way was different, a new experience for him too.

01:11:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was definitely a new experience for us both, and I think we both really got into it. That was super fun. Yeah, thanks to Bobby and his whole crew. We had a great time. I'm just playing long Doo Luzy Do Do Do Do Doo.

01:12:21
Speaker 3: This episode was recorded at Woodshed Recording in Malibu, California, by Bobby Campbell. Mixed by Bobby Campbell.

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Speaker 1: Additional engineering by Greg Tobler and Jamie Landry. Edited by Sarah Oda, artwork by Eliza Frye, photography by Shervan Linez, and produced by Me and my olda