MLB Power Rank 1-liners, Pitch tip W’s, NL Cy battle, Cal v. Judge

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Aaron Jones takes it. Do you think no chance? It's not close, no chance for the first chance, Color should win it.

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Speaker 2: Where I was going, but I'll take it Boxer Day?

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Speaker 1: What's Boxer Day? I bet that was after Christmas?

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Speaker 2: Holiday starts with the letters b oh b B Why bringer old beer?

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Speaker 1: No damn?

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Speaker 2: What's that spelled B?

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Speaker 1: Why he o b B? Why Bobby? Bobby space Oh Bobby? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Happy Bobby Bania Day.

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Speaker 3: Obody nobody one nine three million dollars Bobby bo nobody?

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Speaker 2: Did he get it through twenty thirty five?

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Speaker 1: But here's my thing about that, there's so many guys that do this now, it's just because he was the first one. Gilbert at Beverly Hills was the guy who negotiated this contract. And now if everyone still talks about some good for Bobby plus, I mean, god knows how much he's making when the Players Association, so he's getting paid a lot.

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Speaker 3: Still, we're going to have Shoho tany day in like twenty eighty nine or something like that. But for Bobby, the incredible part is that the last game he played was in two thousand and one.

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Speaker 1: He's got like ten more years too.

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Speaker 2: Twenty thirty five.

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Speaker 1: Good for him from good for you, Bobby, bo I love you, your fun golf guy, fun golf partner.

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Speaker 4: He would have gotten more money had he gotten upfront. Really, yes, none of these deferred money. Now of deferred money is like, oh wow, the player's making out so well, it's just cool to get the check. Had he gotten the money upfront and invested it the same way the team invested it, like, the team's not paying him more, They've just used that money.

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Speaker 3: I thought in this case they were paying him more because they thought that their return were from already made off.

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Speaker 2: Who was saying that everything was turning into gold. I thought there was, okay, well a little bit of that.

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe maybe they're so different, but yeah, he always want the money and.

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Speaker 1: He's an interest on his though. I thought he started at one and it slowly has gone up.

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Speaker 2: I think so so. I wish whatever work, but I.

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Speaker 1: Mean nice to be sitting at home and get a check for one plus million dollars every year for no reason. Griffy stills like the third highest paid red guy Griffy Still yeah, I mean Max Sures is going to be getting money for like twenty more years. Actually has got like fifteen a year from the Nats.

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Speaker 3: For a minute, yet, we'll do a deferral segment in the off season. I think that'd be fun.

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Speaker 1: Deferral Max Sures is getting paid from like seven different teams this year. Show Hayes is going to be ridiculous. Let's just be of course it is. He's earning eight million a year. He is ten years.

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Speaker 3: We played a little poker last night, or they did. I broadcasted it. If you want to check it out, it's on our YouTube channel live for a few hours. Congratulates to Delan Betansas. We'll talk more about that in a little bit. But Dylan's pretty good at poker. After the poker tournament that he won, what did he do? He played more poker, He went playing more poker, he got play more today.

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Speaker 1: Yes, here's my thing with that, Like, there's only one person that has sat at that table and taking Buttansas out and it was me, and they all ganged up on me to get me out early. And then so once I was out, there was no chance. I was sitting there, Mark was texting me because I left to take a nap, and Mark was like, he said, he was sending me screenshots of the chip gun. I'm like, but Tanzas has got this. He's like, what do you mean? Polara has a huge lead. I'm like, but Tanzas has got this. He did. Dylan was the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: He is, but he almost went down early. He almost went down in the.

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Speaker 4: It was not it was not he. I mean he went because he had a little he had a small stack and he got called I think by chef. Yeah, it was good. He's a good player. There's no there's no denying it.

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Speaker 2: It was fun.

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Speaker 1: He gets what's going on.

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Speaker 3: Yes, all right, let's have some fun with some baseball action yesterday, because then eventually we're gonna have three good guests.

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Speaker 2: Let's charge.

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Speaker 1: Let's charge about.

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Speaker 3: Red Sox beat up on Chase Burns and the Reds will you or bray you with a regular homer? And and inside the parker was Chase Burns.

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Speaker 2: Tipping in his second start.

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Speaker 1: Apparently listen he got what one out and had like zero swings and missus throwing one hundred with the slider and change up six runs. It was. And when you see a player go over to another player and it's a pretty good dead giveaway. And if they're like first pitch changeups and sliders and they're hitting them four hundred feet with his stuff, something's going on. And Alex Cora is one of the best, legally or illegally finding ways to find tips.

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Speaker 2: To even know my epic line, Sorry, I mean it's true.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't mean that I love Alex.

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Speaker 2: On the resume it is.

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Speaker 4: It's one hundred percent true. You're always looking for that stuff. People think like all of a sudden, the trash can scheme was like, oh, you know what, let's try this.

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Speaker 1: No, they're exhausting all other things.

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Speaker 4: They're like they've thought about doing the Victor Martinez and having somebody in center field, like they've they've like, they think of everything. So to find something from a rookie's first start, it's probably not that big a deal for him. But that's yeah, was he tipping?

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Speaker 1: Yes? I guess we'll never know. Yes he was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys don't know what it was.

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Speaker 1: I didn't watch the game. I was too busy getting my butt kicked in poker, true, and taking a nap, can take a nap, yeah, but by the time poker was done that the game was already almost over.

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Speaker 4: What's impressive to me is that if it was tipping, young guys don't necessarily know how to use a tip like that early in the in your big league career, some young guys are like, I don't trust it. I don't trust what you guys got, or I don't see it. So I love seeing young guys who can learn that who else is on that team, who else is on the red Soide team on pregnant take good? Also legally or illegally of using tips.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you know what amazes me from a fan perspective, even if you do know what's coming.

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Speaker 2: Chase Burns has.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you eliminate things. Here's what you do. So if you're if you're when I knew it was coming, I could eliminate pictures like I wanted to know if a guy had a split when he was throwing the split, because until you got two strikes, it was just an auto take it, not swinging, because if you threw first, because there's very rarely a strikes, you just wouldn't swing at it right but the thing was he was throwing them for strikes, so they were like, oh, here comes a slider, or he throws it for a strike and it's not the best slider and they're whack, change it, whack, fastball, whack. That's that's where it is.

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Speaker 2: Is.

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Speaker 1: The biggest thing is is your takes. Your takes, your takes, tell your takes to Like I remember in two thousand and nineteen ish when the Rays played the Astros and glass Now started and they had his pitches. It wasn't the swings, it's the takes. Like he was throwing hammer breaking balls and they're just like not even there's even like they were just like nope, and they throw a fast whack. I mean in the first inning. I'm like, they got his pitches. But it's weird. On the air, you can't really say that I did, yes, because it's kind of maybe you can't as the local guy, but as a national guy, you kind of just hint at it because because you're not picking a team. Yeah, you're not picking a team, and you don't want to say like if I was. I think lu Maloni was on the Red Sox saying like, oh, like if I was the red Sox. I'd be like, Lou, shut up, dude, we won't have to play this guy later.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that you or anyone else on the national broadcast is the only one at that point that knows a tip if you guys are finding it when there are people on I think every team whose job is th.

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Speaker 1: Others, some teams really do not care about it. And it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Really, it's crazy to me because of the level of stuff that's out there in the game and you're sitting there going like you don't want to know what's coming. There is not a pitch in the game that, if you know it's coming over three pitches that a big league hitter can't do damage on it. Now, if you only have one chance or it's like, well, every time he tilts his glove up it's either slider or change up it's off speed, then you might not have But if you know the pitch specifically what it is.

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Speaker 1: It's damage.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to bring some outliers up. I knew what pitch Marianna Rivera was throwing, and I knew a pitch Tommy Camley was throwing the playoffs last year.

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Speaker 1: I can't figure out Tommy Camley finally show hey did the smart thing and just sat on it. I remember mister Homer by about two inches in the World Series, and he was the first one that finally just went up there and sat on it. And the other thing is is Mariano was just a different animal because his ball moved like thing you've ever seen before. I can't unless you faced him and stood in the box. People are like, I don't understand why you couldn't hit Mariano until you stood in the box and understood what his ball did. You can't. You can't make it up. Like that's why if you remember Chef talking yesterday, they the Red Sox saw him all the time, so they got to a point where they were kind of could anticipate his movement. But when like for me, I would see him once a year, twice a year, it was like, okay, this is impossible because he would throw and then it also helped it. The umpire strikes in with him was like because they didn't know either there there was balls. I swear there was one. Bob Davis and I love you, and he was with the buddy of mine. He called me yesterday. He threw me a pitch in it and he called it a strike. He struck me out on it, and I was like, Bob, the ball like literally wants hit you. Like I felt that Nick my jersey's like Oh, that's a good pitch.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, there's no way, but you're talking about you're talking about an anomaly pitch. You're talking about a glitch like you talk about haters fastball as a glitch, Like your eye is processing things at a rate higher than in your mind is like able to like conceptualize it. Mariano's fastball would not only would it cut and maybe you see that cut. You have to swing in an area where you're not used to swinging to be able to make contact with it, and then it's moving also in a horizontal direction. So it's just, yeah, those are those are glitch pitches.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair. It's a good combo though. It's interesting, but it leads to the victor.

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Speaker 1: Next time he pitches, he'll do something different. Even if they didn't have anything, he'll Frank Cartito and Derek Johnson, they'll have him doing something different. Yeah. I mean there was a thing where Ryan Dempster used to do his whole glove like this. I mean, it didn't stop me from hitting my favorite home run of all time off.

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Speaker 2: Of them, but you know, to try and throw people at.

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Speaker 1: The anniversary to me, I was gonna say it wasn't that the anniversary? That the anniversary? To me, it was riot. It was almost a riot. It regally it was awesome. They said to stop the game for like twenty minutes because all the Cup fans do garbage on the field.

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Speaker 2: Classy, yeah, stay.

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Speaker 4: Classy, stay classy.

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Speaker 3: All right, So the Red Sox win, I mean, they've lost seven of nine, but they're only three games back of a wild card, so we'll see what happens. There are a lot of teams that can go on a run and get themselves right back in the picture right now.

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Speaker 1: In the picture and in the lead are two different things.

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Speaker 3: But three games back of a wild card spot. The orioles, I think are only you can't be six games back. You can't be hot and get to three games. You can't win seven in a row and get the three games back. That doesn't that doesn't get you back in because then you need to be hot. Win you're three games back.

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Speaker 2: No, they've lost seven of nine in their three games.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, are the marlins in it?

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Speaker 2: They're just as and it has the braves are hey too soon? Wait a few weeks and then we'll find out.

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Speaker 3: Better than box scores we'll hit a few more games from Monday night, starting with Zach Wheeler making a little.

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Speaker 2: An Elsie Young run. Perhaps with his eight innings of shutout baseball, is.

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Speaker 1: He going to be out there too much to lose the award.

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Speaker 2: Like he did what three years ago? Maybe who did he lose it to?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Burns had like thirty less innings but almost the same amount of strikeouts. So I guess it's it's whoever, whoever the voters think is most dominant. Right now, he's been he's been the most consistent wire to wire. I think he had one Clonker Yamamoto has been like ridiculous early and then he's just kind of been regular Cy Young level. But the best to me, I think the best way Obviously a voter, people who vote on it have to give their give their take on it. But if you're doing it down the stretch. I don't think June's down the stretch, But if you do it July, August, September, that's who wins it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like MVP, he's your judge. To me, the National League is more a little bit more condensed. The American League, to me, has more options. Hunter Brown Scooble. There's there's better options in the American more options crochet you can throw in there. Right, there's there's more in the American League that you can throw with the National League. To me, Wheeler Skiings Yamamoto is gonna get there. He's gonna go on the I L. Let's be He's gonna go on the IL at some point they're gonna five or sea. That's what I'm saying. I mean right now, to me, in the National League, it's it's Skiings and it's Wheeler.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: And there's not really I mean, you know, Christopher Sanchez is having a good year, but is he gonna keep it up? Freddy Peralta is having a really good year. Is he gonna keep it up? To Graham is in the American League, you don't got to worry about him anymore, right, I mean, I don't know, there's not there's not Gallons not having a good year. Logan Webb's having a good year, but he's seven and six and I know that doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: But also pitches too much.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's the guy that takes the ball ands like, oh you need me to go eight, I'm gonna go eight, and I might give up an extra run in the eighth. We're winning five to two save a bullpen, So I don't know. To me right now, it's Skeens and Wheeler in the National.

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Speaker 2: They also pitch.

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Speaker 3: I mean they are like Web with the innings one oh six for Skiens, one oh seven for Wheeler. Let's see how much Web has I can also just go to the innings.

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Speaker 4: I feel like this thirteen three guys who pitch, Yeah, throw a lot. It may push out of Yamamoto because it's not like Yamamoto's strikeouts are like other worldly strikeouts. Listen, he'll be a top five because even even with his quote iel stint or his they just can't have him go over his starts that he's most starts he's ever had in his career.

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Speaker 2: And he's going to do an extra month. Wheeler might too. Skeens won't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're not worried about Wheelers used to it though they're not worried about Wheelers.

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Speaker 3: But Yamamoto is potentially going to do an extra what five starts or so in October.

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Speaker 2: They're going to make sure.

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Speaker 3: That he may be like he'll go on the eye phantom Ale at the least.

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Speaker 1: I just never had more than twenty six starts every in his life. Especially if they get a little bit of a lead, you're starting to they're starting to kind of creep away from starting to build. Get a seven and a half game lead right now, they're gonna but.

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Speaker 4: Really, one Ilston could technically be one start for him. So because he's throwing, because he's throwing once every seven days, it's a fifteen day I l you bring him back on the fifteenth day and he starts, so you know it's gonna be there.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's flip to the American League.

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Speaker 3: Cal Riley homeward again two for a roserain last night, but Cal's at thirty three home runs. You weren't with us last week when we did some Cal talk, including Cal versus Judge for MVP.

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Speaker 2: Have you waited in on that one yet for first half MVP? Would you like to?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Aaron Judge takes it out. No chance, it's not close, No chance to me for the first No chance Cal Ray should win it. Okay, Cal should win it. Catcher Premium position. Okay, Platinum Glove winner, Premium position, and last but not least, he's got more homers than Judge and he's having an all time historic year. To me, that's MVP. No, can you keep it up to the second app I don't know, but if he hit sixty homers as a catcher, you gotta win the MVP.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry there was the question was first half.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll still take Raley. He's got more homers than Jude. Judge hits homers. Any plays position of much importance. Do you know what Judge is Batting average? Don't care. Batting average doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: That's the writer, someone who had a good batting average.

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Speaker 1: Just the writers as the front of writers.

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Speaker 2: War writers will tell you war sur.

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Speaker 1: Rise, Louise a rise with batting average doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: Irony Judge six point three, Fan grafts War at the moment, Kyle Riley five point six.

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Speaker 1: Okay, if if I'm that's close, that's.

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Speaker 2: Close that you go by other stats.

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Speaker 1: If car Rawly wins a Platinum Glove and he hits fifty five homers as a catcher of the all time record, you don't think he deserves a win MVP. Oh, yeah.

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Speaker 4: For the season, absolutely, but for the first half it's still Judges Award.

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Speaker 1: The question was I'll die on this sort.

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Speaker 4: First half MVP as Aaron Judge, Cal his team's in first place.

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Speaker 1: Cal's team doesn't. That doesn't matter. The writers have proven that doesn't matter because when a Rod and some of the other guys win it with their last place team Mike Trell there had never made the playoffs. You want it, it don't matter. They don't care about that.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's why I probably have grammatical errors when I text people, because I'm not a writer.

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Speaker 1: They don't care about it. Ask We asked Ken Rowley, Ken.

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Speaker 2: Rawley, Ken Rosenthal.

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Speaker 3: The Mariners are in a playoff spot, by the way right now, so he is helping them.

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Speaker 4: Historic season by Cal Rawley. More historical season by aa Ron Judge.

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Speaker 1: This year, this halfs no chance, no chance.

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Speaker 4: From until two days ago, three days ago, he had a twelve hundred OPS for the first half of the season. Eighty one games any twelve hundred ops. Okay, his OPS was almost two hundred points.

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Speaker 1: He's also been going like this, I'm not Cal Rawley just keeps bashing homers. I'm not saying Cara has a better nickname, and Aaron Judge has to do something special to win it because he's already won it so many times. So therefore, like when Raccoon, you won it, who had a better first half? Question Cal Ray because he catches. Sorry, I'm a catcher. I'm biased. I admit it. I am awesome. I am also biased. But if somebody does something that's never happened before in the history of baseball, There's been two guys that have hit more homers in the first half than Cal Raley, Barry Bonds and Mark McGuire right, and they set the all time home run records both those years. I'm not saying that's gonna happen to kl Rawley. But if you do something historic like that for a catcher, all time home run record for catcher's like forty four. He already got thirty four. That if he hits fifty homers as a catcher, he wins it. I'm sorry, I don't care. I know New York bias, Seattle bias, whatever you want to call it. He should win. That's it. I ask Andrew Jones when he comes in here what he thinks. He'll say, Aaron Judge, because he played for the Yankees, which is a lie because he liked it in Homers, and.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't even say that's necessarily the case.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to see if I can find any of the late clutch stats, because I know I'd seen some with Cal but I haven't really searched Aaron Judge on that front, because that should matter too, right.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Aaron Judge versus the Red Sox when they got swept, how do you do? Here's the real question? Whose third?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 4: Is this more of a like? Nobody's even close type of thing. Nobody even in the conversation.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy one that Cal Ray has even brought himself up to this level.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, but no nobody else. I mean, I'm looking at the American League teams. Wilson, No, there is a clear questions. Now he just got hurt. Jeremy Payne, Oh, incredible season.

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Speaker 2: Now he just got hurt.

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Speaker 1: He's not even in the conversation as good of a year as he's having.

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Speaker 2: No, those two are a step ahead by far.

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Speaker 3: It's good debate, though. Anyone that's out there, it's like, it's not close.

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Speaker 1: It's full of.

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Speaker 2: Come on, it's close.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean it's not close?

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Speaker 2: People are saying that a lot of people are just already won the award.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, WHOA A lot.

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Speaker 2: Of people are saying it's not close. It's ridiculous and now appointing to that.

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Speaker 3: You know a few of the the slash line stats and then stop him there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they look at the slash line, but then they forget cal a catcher. He's a catcher, and he catches every day. It's not like he takes days off. He catches six out of seven games and then the other game DHS or pinch.

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Speaker 2: It's every game more important position catcher or right field.

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Speaker 1: Stop right field and Yankee Stadium where it's like two hundred and seventy five feet.

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Speaker 4: Right, and he's a very good He's a very good thrower, catcher of the ball. It's not even close. It might be the best right fielder defensively in the game, just as far as like range and.

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Speaker 1: I'll take a breaki. He has to cover Fenway.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean he gotta be a center fielder to play in right field.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's an upper echelons defensive pretty good. Yes, Kyle Tucker's crazy good in right let's show this tweet from Buster only Trek Scuble and the Tigers created a huge rating Sunday night two million, with a peak of two point three miles sending a. Baseball ratings are up eleven percent over last season. It's good when you see the Tigers on that march.

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Speaker 1: It's also the fact that Schooble was pitching fine, crushed.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't that play to the back. We need more.

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Speaker 1: That's why I said when it was MS versus Schemes, that should have been a national game on one of the channels. And here's the other thing. Good job. ESPN ratings a double percent. By the way, you're done, get out.

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Speaker 2: That's what are you doing.

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Speaker 1: You gave it up and you wont ned to give it up. But they want the NBA. They have the NBA. It's ratings just keep going down and MLB's ratings keep going up. Someone there chose poorly.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we should interview someone at some point about it.

00:24:10
Speaker 1: Only we knew somebody that used to work there.

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Speaker 3: I think times like these are a message to MLB that they need to figure out a way to incentivize teams that are developing starters who go deep into games and become marquee names.

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Speaker 1: In the sport, but after trying to get trying to get back in. Yeah, at probably a cheaper rate. Obviously.

00:24:38
Speaker 3: It's like a classic high school relationship, like they're breaking up, they're back together, they're breaking up, they're back together.

00:24:43
Speaker 1: Just kidding. No, I really do love you. I can't live without you.

00:24:49
Speaker 3: We're going to take you through the latest card that I pulled in my arena club slam pack Aja, And here it is. I pulled a Jared Jones card. So Jared Jones is going to be out for minute, but I'm gonna hold on to this one for the long term. He was nasty in his rookie season.

00:25:05
Speaker 1: Agreed, this is a great card to pull. It's gonna go up in value once he comes back because this guy dealt in his rookie season, gets punch outs, he gives the innings once he's back. Scott, you're in it for the long term. Don't give up on Jared Jones or this card you got from Arina Club.

00:25:21
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00:25:46
Speaker 2: If you buy, sell, trade, collect.

00:25:48
Speaker 3: Go for it all right, Let's dissect other power rankings, not ours.

00:25:52
Speaker 2: We did ours recently.

00:25:54
Speaker 1: I gotta change one.

00:25:55
Speaker 2: Well, that is how it works.

00:25:57
Speaker 1: Rodgers are still one, So still one. You had the Mets is won before. I have never had the Mets at anything. I had Dodgers at number one. Check all the power rankings. Dodgers are not going to be No. Number One until they little too above the Phillies that you did.

00:26:16
Speaker 2: Maybe do you know where the athletic put the Mets twentieth seven.

00:26:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you lose thirteen out of sixteen and fifteen out of eighteen, my power or whatever, it look a little better. I got a little roasted before because the Phillies had lost some games.

00:26:31
Speaker 2: I'll take it, though, I'll take it well.

00:26:33
Speaker 1: When you do power rankings, you're not doing it for the long term, you're doing it for that. It's exactly so. At the time, the Mets were better than the Phillies.

00:26:40
Speaker 3: Oh and now things have changed. So the Athletic came out with some words to describe certain teams. So being that you brought up the Mets, the word for them was roller coaster, since they had been on a heater fifteen of eighteen at one point, and then now.

00:26:55
Speaker 2: Finishing up June, they lost thirteen of sixteen.

00:27:00
Speaker 1: Fifteen eighteen to thirteen of sixteen.

00:27:02
Speaker 3: Roller I'll give you one. They have the Giants at nine and they said super weird.

00:27:07
Speaker 1: Man.

00:27:08
Speaker 2: I agree. I'm like they've got Ever since they.

00:27:12
Speaker 1: Got divors, they can't hit. They lost, they swept by the Martins and lost two out three to the White Sox.

00:27:18
Speaker 2: That's bad.

00:27:19
Speaker 1: And they lost last night to the Diamond Back.

00:27:21
Speaker 2: Were they not as good as we thought they were. I don't know.

00:27:23
Speaker 1: But ever since they got divors, they can't hit. They couldn't before now they really can't. But now they really can't. It's weird.

00:27:30
Speaker 4: They're better. They're good because they pitch. I really felt like even when the last time we did the Power rankings after six or seven teams, it kind of just feels like teams with big, gaping holes that they have to fill. I mean, I had I had the Padres in that in that yeah, but what are you gonna.

00:27:51
Speaker 1: They had to start in Matt Waldron last night?

00:27:54
Speaker 4: Serviceable, But if you're talking about a team that's gonna make a deep October run, you would.

00:27:59
Speaker 1: Rather have the Giants pitching staff.

00:28:02
Speaker 4: I get it, they can be up and down Robbie Ray is, but if you look at the numbers, you have an ace in logan web and then you have other guys that can fill in through it throughout that time. And I just think, I just think there's a wide gap after that six or seventh team in baseball right now. And so I mean, I guess it's good that we have the expanded wild card because those teams can get in. I think the most underrated of all of these, and I'm not saying that they should be higher than this. The Rays, Well, the Rays have done with who who have they done it with?

00:28:40
Speaker 1: Random? Kevin Narrow? Yep, that's who it is.

00:28:42
Speaker 4: Jonathan Rondas should be starting in the All Star Game. That's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen. I get it, especially when he hit what do you hit a four hundred and seventy foot homer the other day.

00:28:53
Speaker 2: He's just been incredible offensively.

00:28:56
Speaker 4: Three point fifty the whole season. He's got ten nine or ten pumps like but out of nowhere, out of nowhere, and the Rays are still there. Who's who's less surprising that they're winning? The Astros or the race? Astros? Have you seen the Astros lineup.

00:29:13
Speaker 2: Right with who you're saying more surprising?

00:29:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're saying more surprising.

00:29:18
Speaker 2: Astros are more surprising than the race.

00:29:20
Speaker 1: The Rays. Listen when the race starters are healthy and even their lineup listen, you can camin Narow, Diaz. They have some dudes that have done it, Jansen, you know, some guys are in law low and right field. I mean, they have some guys that have kind of done some things. But you look at the Astros lineup. Al t is not hitting. He started hitting in June, but no Alvarez well now no painya, Tucker's gone. Diaz isn't hitting like he did last year. Jake Myers is hitting unbelievably well. It's like trust you go look at the Astros lineup and you say, how how are they doing this? Again? I did know I had them on Saturday. First question, I look, Joe spot right in the camp right here for me to the right here, Joe, how are you guys this far in first place? And he just laughed right in my face and I go wow, and he goes, because we can pitch, which it can. Hunter Brown fromber has been unbelievable for this last month. Right eighth and ninth is Locke. Colton Gordon has been really good for him. All their starters have been incredible. And then you go, yeah, hater and the brave you have been them. But the other guys Oker, Susa, some of these other guys that no one's ever heard of, have been unbelievable. That that's the thing I think. If you would if you would have looked at the standings right now, if beginning here into the Astros would have a six game lead, nine and a half over the Rangers, you would have ten and they lost one, you'd have said, there's no way, there's no way. What they've lost the last few years. Here they are once again, we guess we'll never know.

00:30:45
Speaker 4: I don't know Bregman, I would have changed what that's said.

00:30:49
Speaker 1: What did it say?

00:30:49
Speaker 4: What's their dominance, June dominance, it says June Trent. I would have said trust. I would have said this Astros organization US, Dana Brown trusts what they've built. They they got rid of Tucker. I think they got rid of Tucker because they were like, well, we're not paying Juan Soto type of money to this guy, and he's gonna get four hundred, so we're getting value. They trusted that east Op Baratis was gonna do what he's gonna do.

00:31:18
Speaker 1: Biggest thing. Do you remember what Cam Smith started out hitting?

00:31:22
Speaker 2: Not well?

00:31:23
Speaker 1: Do you know what he's at now?

00:31:24
Speaker 2: Very good?

00:31:25
Speaker 1: Seven seventy seven ops. He was in college lush year in the College World Series.

00:31:31
Speaker 4: College World Series. You think you think that's you think that's just Dana Brown going hmmm, he's a pretty good player. Look at his spring training stats like this. They trusted what this guy did and trusted his makeup because when we went to Houston spring training they talked about that. I get it, Cam Smith isn't the guy that's carrying this team, but it's the idea that we trust you as a player, that means so much more to a player that already has elite skills, and now look what they're getting. This guy could be at an eight hundreds by by the All Star break, and he was in the College World Series last year.

00:32:11
Speaker 3: Dana Brown is one of the best evaluators of talent in baseball for a long time.

00:32:19
Speaker 1: This is why the astros I mean lun now and who's the guy next to GM? They got James Click and they won a World Series, fired him running.

00:32:28
Speaker 2: Dana Brown all super different too. All three of them are very different.

00:32:35
Speaker 1: I mean, Dana Brown and Jeff lunar about as far ends of the spectrums you could ever get ones a scout. The other one is all analytics heavy, dah D whatever. But they've all worked. That's what's crazy. The question is, is I guess what's the common thread there at The common theme is the owner is the only Jim Crane is the only common thread theme And this whole thing is is Jim Crane is the guy. So what is Jim Crane doing? No one else is doing.

00:33:01
Speaker 4: My interaction with Jim Crane obviously people are going to say he should have been more at fault for things. All this stuff he shouldn't have fired certain whatever. I don't think he should have fired a j Hinch. You know I had to.

00:33:13
Speaker 1: I get it.

00:33:14
Speaker 4: I'm a big Age Hinch fan, so that's my bias. But my thing is Jim Crane. When I was there, I was there for six weeks. He was integral in telling some of those young guys how he wanted them to act as.

00:33:30
Speaker 1: A representative from their organization.

00:33:32
Speaker 4: He would sit those guys down and go, I want you to sign autographs. I want you to I want you to be somebody that's forward facing for the organization. People will be like, Okay, well that's going to make you money. If your superstars are out there for facing, like, maybe you should pay them more if you're going to do that. He is involved in those things, but I never saw him overstepping into the baseball like I remember him talking. Remember Dallas Kichel had that perfectly manicured beard. He's like, none of my other businesses, would anybody ever have a beard like that? He's like, but I kind of like yours, Dallas. He wasn't like, I think you start throwing more change because that area of struggle a little bit. I think you should go back to throwing more change ups and the breaking ball below the zone.

00:34:18
Speaker 1: I never heard him, and I think he was in the He was in the clubhouse more than.

00:34:21
Speaker 4: I'd ever seen any owners, But I never saw him talk about baseball.

00:34:27
Speaker 3: Let me just bring up a counter or some clarity for fans. I don't think during the season he's going up to a guy trying to tell him anything. But I have heard he is super involved on moves, but he knows ball, just like John Middleton knows ball.

00:34:44
Speaker 2: There are some owners, most of them.

00:34:46
Speaker 3: Are supers, yeah, but most of them are super involved, but there are a few that really know ball. And yeah, he's not making the decision on optioning so and though you know it's not the little stuff, but I mean every owner's involved in the big moves, the free agent signings, the trades.

00:35:02
Speaker 2: He's good at making decisions like that.

00:35:04
Speaker 3: Everyone makes their mistakes, right, they signed a bray you that didn't work out. But he's had a lot of hits, but he wants to win and he put the right guys in place. Dandon Brown's doing a great job. Dana Brown is doing an awesome job with that team as the GM right.

00:35:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the two owners that you brought up.

00:35:22
Speaker 4: In my opinion, I feel like they just both want to win, whether they know ball or not, how what level.

00:35:28
Speaker 2: They're making decisions.

00:35:31
Speaker 3: Even if you say they want to win, Okay, well, I have this much to spend on a player, which one, and they're part of the decision making process.

00:35:38
Speaker 2: They're making the right call more often than not.

00:35:41
Speaker 1: You wants to win, but they don't win.

00:35:43
Speaker 2: Right, So he's not making the right call as much as those guys.

00:35:48
Speaker 1: AJ.

00:35:48
Speaker 3: Let's show this all the Gonzales tweet first, just to show the parody. It's July first, and all but nine teams are within four games of a playoff spot. The nine teams Royals, Orioles, Braves, mar A's Pirates, Nationals, White Sox, Rockies.

00:36:05
Speaker 1: Which which are those are the most surprising? Oh, come on, I'm gonna say Braves are probably the most surprising. Or not right, Braves, Orioles, Royals are the.

00:36:15
Speaker 3: Three, Orioles are the most surprising over the Braves. No, you're right, Braves, Braves are the most surprising, then Orioles, then Royals Oriols has just been going on for the whole season, Yeah, Braves is.

00:36:25
Speaker 1: They's been going they started owing to seven scot that's not the whole season.

00:36:28
Speaker 2: The Braves and the Marlins are a half game apart. That is wild.

00:36:32
Speaker 3: We're halfway through the season and those two teams are in the same spot. I think that says a lot. But anyway, the rest of the teams obviously are all in the mix. Even someway they're like, I don't know if they're that good.

00:36:43
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was watching the Pirates game. It was on yesterday, and they were like, since Don Kelly took over there like fifteen and fifteen or something, they're doing so much better.

00:36:53
Speaker 2: When you're setting that as your bar or.

00:36:56
Speaker 1: Chuck Garfine tweeted about the White Sox. They won twenty eight games. The didn't won twenty eight games August first last year. They also had the all time record for the most amount of losses last year. That's what you're comparing it to. They're never going to be that bad again.

00:37:08
Speaker 3: Well, inside edge data dish stat Luisa Rice Man of the Hour, he's missed on five percent of swings over the last fourteen days, best in baseball.

00:37:19
Speaker 1: Only fourteen days.

00:37:21
Speaker 2: They were just doing a shorter sample.

00:37:22
Speaker 1: At one point, he had we were into June and he had twenty twenty swings and misses on the year, so five percent it might be up for him.

00:37:30
Speaker 2: True, I don't know what it is on the season.

00:37:32
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, this guy gets hits. He's down a little bit this year, but he gets a lot of hits. And we tell and you know, the funny part is Crafts earlier brought up judges batting average. Well, how many times we heard from analytical people batting average doesn't matter. It matters if you can get hits. I'm sorry it just see Luisa Rise missed on four percent, so he's actually worse.

00:37:51
Speaker 2: Here's my thing.

00:37:52
Speaker 1: In the last two weeks while we're doing that, it should be like this whole season, he's only swung and miss four percent.

00:37:56
Speaker 2: We'll talk to our inside staff. Yeah, the scenes, Well, no, we do. We often do this thing, I know.

00:38:05
Speaker 1: But it's just funny that's actually gone up at five percent.

00:38:08
Speaker 2: He's off his game.

00:38:09
Speaker 1: Yes, he's hitting like what to eighty ish.

00:38:12
Speaker 3: Which actually surprisingly is kind of low for him battel three years in a row.

00:38:17
Speaker 2: My thing with him is the variety that he brings to a lineup.

00:38:22
Speaker 3: I get it where some teams are like yeah, we can't have nine of those with no pop and he's not.

00:38:27
Speaker 2: A good defender. What I'm like, you should have one?

00:38:30
Speaker 1: Oh, guy, that's a pest.

00:38:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of minutes of bonus time and then we're gonna go play poker.

00:38:47
Speaker 2: Tucker Barnhardt to be the CAP just retired.

00:38:52
Speaker 3: Congratulations, two time goal Glover, two time goal Glover.

00:38:57
Speaker 1: This twenty twenty count people I talked to said twenty twenty Award shouldn't go because he played thirty eight games a year, so did everybody else.

00:39:05
Speaker 2: We should bring him on and ask him.

00:39:07
Speaker 1: I mean, it's great, he got to go golos. It's awesome. But what I'm saying is like people will say, oh that you talk to people like Cosey, you want to MVP that year?

00:39:15
Speaker 2: Ready too? Right? Didn't Freddy win that?

00:39:17
Speaker 1: Yeah?

00:39:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's two first.

00:39:18
Speaker 1: Basement sixty games or whatever it was. I don't like we talked about the first half. Aaron Judge would be your first sixty game and we had to.

00:39:26
Speaker 4: Do half of it with a mask on, so I think it gets extra doubles. It's ninety games, plus you had to sit out and sit and wait.

00:39:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, baseball could have come back so much sooner, but we don't have time for that.

00:39:36
Speaker 2: Crafts AT's on the way out.

00:39:40
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00:39:44
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00:39:50
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00:39:52
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00:39:55
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00:39:59
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00:40:08
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00:40:25
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