Revisiting Lucha Underground S1 Episode 2 - Mil Muertes Debuts, Chavo Guerrero Turns Heel

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty four. Today we might be doing a first
<v Speaker 2>time here in Deadlock. So we had such a good
<v Speaker 2>time on Luca Underground Season one, episode one, we thought,
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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get into Luca Underground Season one, episode
<v Speaker 2>number two.
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited, dude, Okay, is this a is this a
<v Speaker 1>first here where we did a back to back maybe?
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there was a lot of people that were
<v Speaker 2>super hyped to see Luca Underground on this, I was
<v Speaker 2>super hype just to see the follow up episode one.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, episode one is always one thing, but how
<v Speaker 2>good is episode two? Really? Hmmm?
<v Speaker 1>How do they continue the momentum? I mean yeah, like
<v Speaker 1>I don't, I don't know if we have It's it's
<v Speaker 1>few and far between of a you know, one episode
<v Speaker 1>followed with the next episode. But yeah, everybody was, like
<v Speaker 1>James said, was super excited and like this felt very
<v Speaker 1>fresh to us, and we were like fuck, like we
<v Speaker 1>could win a couple weeks. Did Luchona Ground episode two
<v Speaker 1>or we could just do it? And we said, let's
<v Speaker 1>just do it. Why not? So before we get into
<v Speaker 1>Lucanderground episode two from season one, I have a little
<v Speaker 1>bit of observers here for everybody I know, on the
<v Speaker 1>last episode we kind of went over the beginning stages
<v Speaker 1>of Lucanderground and the name and YadA YadA, YadA, and
<v Speaker 1>kind of how the first taping went. Well. I have
<v Speaker 1>a little bit just from around the time, so from
<v Speaker 1>probably going forward for Luchona Ground episodes, I'll just do
<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, the week after a show air,
<v Speaker 1>just to kind of see what was going on here.
<v Speaker 1>So from the wrestling observer newsletter November seventeenth to twenty fourteen.
<v Speaker 1>In CMLL news, now this is a weird one only
<v Speaker 1>because there's a company name here that made me think
<v Speaker 1>maybe I was doing the wrong time period. So in
<v Speaker 1>CML news and a Crazy Story, Meltzer writes, it now
<v Speaker 1>looks like la Park isn't returning after all, although people
<v Speaker 1>are skeptical of that one as well. All Elite Wrestling,
<v Speaker 1>which is running a series of shows in cml's arena
<v Speaker 1>this week, announced that la Park was still an independent
<v Speaker 1>and you can only see him work with CMLL talent
<v Speaker 1>on their shows. So I was reading this and I
<v Speaker 1>was like, man, that's fucking weird. AW like had an
<v Speaker 1>issue with CMLL, And I'm like, wait a second, this
<v Speaker 1>is twenty fourteen. There was a different AW that ran
<v Speaker 1>in Mexico that I didn't know about.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't know that either. That's I mean, was
<v Speaker 2>the chance of that happening?
<v Speaker 1>I mean, dude, it legit threw me off really bad.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh man, I'm wasting my time, Like
<v Speaker 1>what was going on here? I'm reading the wrong fucking notes.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I was trying to find info in
<v Speaker 1>this company. I really couldn't find anything though, So if
<v Speaker 1>anybody has any info on the original aw number one two,
<v Speaker 1>we would like to know about it and why LAPARCA
<v Speaker 1>or CMLA had issue with them. Looke Underground News here, James.
<v Speaker 1>This was one we talked about last week, but I'll
<v Speaker 1>bring up up here just because it's really into this episode.
<v Speaker 1>Lutra on the Ground on November fifth, which is this
<v Speaker 1>episode here, did twenty nine thousand viewers, up from about
<v Speaker 1>twenty thousand the week before. Although the eighteen to forty
<v Speaker 1>nine demo went from eight thousand to twenty one thousand,
<v Speaker 1>Unama's ratings, which would be considerably higher having come out.
<v Speaker 1>At the very least, there was an uptick.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that's pretty exciting. I'm sure that people
<v Speaker 2>working on the show are pretty excited about that. You know,
<v Speaker 2>a lot of times you expect with the hype and everything,
<v Speaker 2>people checking out for the first time, Like the first
<v Speaker 2>episode is going to do super well ratings wise, probably
<v Speaker 2>near the peak of where you'll be at for at
<v Speaker 2>least a few months, right until people start really catching
<v Speaker 2>on to like the schedule and everything. But going up
<v Speaker 2>in episode two, I mean that's a sign of good
<v Speaker 2>things for sure.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean how often, like you said, like, is
<v Speaker 1>somebody just going to check it out and probably not
<v Speaker 1>follow up, you know, even if they were like, oh
<v Speaker 1>this is cool, Like you know, if it's not a
<v Speaker 1>part of your routine, it's easy to forget something. So
<v Speaker 1>going up like almost ten thousand viewers is pretty fucking good.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I bet everybody there was super excited about that
<v Speaker 2>for sure.
<v Speaker 1>With wrestling too, dude. I mean you can look at
<v Speaker 1>it on I mean even nowadays or you know, in
<v Speaker 1>the past, like how often is there you could argue
<v Speaker 1>like a year over year like thirty to forty percent
<v Speaker 1>decrease of viewership, so you know how quickly that can
<v Speaker 1>turn is And I think they only keep doing better.
<v Speaker 1>This goes on for four fucking seasons.
<v Speaker 2>That's true. Yeah, and I think they get more money
<v Speaker 2>as time goes on.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so yeah, that's right. Meltzer says. I haven't seen it,
<v Speaker 1>but I'm being told the Unamasa version of the show
<v Speaker 1>is better than the l Ray version, which got me
<v Speaker 1>a little tilted because I was like, oh man, maybe
<v Speaker 1>I should like try to watch like both versions and see,
<v Speaker 1>like maybe I'll do that for the third one. I'll
<v Speaker 1>try to find the UNAMAS like Spanish version of the
<v Speaker 1>show and watch it and see, like if there's any differences,
<v Speaker 1>because he says here that Hugo Savinovich is one of
<v Speaker 1>the commentators in Vampiro is a commentator with him on
<v Speaker 1>that as well, but he's Vampiro is like a full
<v Speaker 1>heel on that one.
<v Speaker 2>Wait wait, wait, so Vampiro does both commentary tables for
<v Speaker 2>this show.
<v Speaker 1>He does English and Spanish and it's two separate recordings. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Wow, I didn't know that.
<v Speaker 1>That's a lot.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah dude, wow, he was locked in.
<v Speaker 1>Meltzer also says another reason the Spanish show is better
<v Speaker 1>is because there is different production on these early shows.
<v Speaker 1>A lot of the people involved have never done pro
<v Speaker 1>wrestling before. To add those issues like in show one
<v Speaker 1>that in theory will go away as the crew gets
<v Speaker 1>more experience, but the production in putting together show on
<v Speaker 1>UNAMAS were done weeks after and the crew had more
<v Speaker 1>experience with it. So I mean, I don't know if
<v Speaker 1>that keeps going or how different the shows may be,
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna have to check.
<v Speaker 2>That out, take a look at it, right.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, I mean that'd be crazy if
<v Speaker 1>there's just a whole different fucking world over there, like
<v Speaker 1>Childo is a top baby.
<v Speaker 2>It changes the whole show they recorded like extra shit,
<v Speaker 2>and it's split between the two channels.
<v Speaker 1>Dude, it's like fucking power Interests as super Za Time.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's nice. You get like Bizarro World, Luca Underground.
<v Speaker 2>That's that's pretty interesting.
<v Speaker 1>No, Martez is actually like a super nice dude. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>If you don't like yeah, if you don't like how
<v Speaker 2>it is here, you can go watch it on this
<v Speaker 2>other channel. It's the exact opposite. Maybe you'll like that one.
<v Speaker 1>Holy shit, that'd be what a fucking crazy concept. That
<v Speaker 1>would be like an alternate universe that's always running at
<v Speaker 1>the same time.
<v Speaker 2>If you were a streaming only show, you could maybe
<v Speaker 2>do that. I mean it would take a lot of shooting, dude,
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, you could try it. I mean it would
<v Speaker 2>be It would definitely be something to talk about.
<v Speaker 1>The next set of tapings begins on January seventeenth. There
<v Speaker 1>is talk of more wrestlers from Triple A in the
<v Speaker 1>second season. They're also looking at new US wrestlers Jeff Cobb,
<v Speaker 1>who was the star of a trial at Camp Conan
<v Speaker 1>and San Jose A long time back is among those
<v Speaker 1>under consideration, which spoilers that does come to be Jeff
<v Speaker 1>Cobb does join this fucking place, and I mean, what
<v Speaker 1>a what a get? Because like Jeff Cobb is, I
<v Speaker 1>feel like just around the time he's probably just getting
<v Speaker 1>in a p BG.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't remember the exact timetable of all that stuff,
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I mean I've I've obviously seen the clips
<v Speaker 2>of him and Luke junder round and tour the Islands
<v Speaker 2>was super over too.
<v Speaker 1>So totally shit. Yeah, dude, I mean his gimmick in
<v Speaker 1>the Junderground as fucking sick as fuck too. So that's uh,
<v Speaker 1>we'll get there, actually we I hope. So Meltzer says
<v Speaker 1>under producers, the first name listed was Chavo Guerrero Junior.
<v Speaker 1>This is based on this show we're about to watch here.
<v Speaker 1>He said they should have enough quality control to leave
<v Speaker 1>his name off as a producer if he's going to
<v Speaker 1>be talent or at least just listed as Salvador or
<v Speaker 1>sal Guerrero four or something like that, which I guess
<v Speaker 1>I understand, right, like, especially with what happens on this show,
<v Speaker 1>just seeing how the show ends. And then the first
<v Speaker 1>name U see is who put the show together was Java. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>He had a great idea for the main angle on
<v Speaker 2>the show.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the beginning of the show, the middle of
<v Speaker 1>the show, and the end of the show. He had
<v Speaker 1>really good ideas for.
<v Speaker 2>Who together is doing a great job with Java Guerrero.
<v Speaker 1>Last thing here really important. It was about Raw. By
<v Speaker 1>the way, Grumpy Cat, the viral Sensation will be the
<v Speaker 1>guest star on the November seventeenth Raw.
<v Speaker 2>That's so exciting. That's so exciting. I gotta say how
<v Speaker 2>excited I am.
<v Speaker 1>Taken over the world and they were on a Raw.
<v Speaker 2>Versus t Anda's keyboard Cat.
<v Speaker 1>Well, that is it for the Observer. Now let's talk
<v Speaker 1>about Lucha Underground season one, episode two.
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get into the temple. Lucha Underground episode two,
<v Speaker 2>season one. We get a code open that goes over
<v Speaker 2>everything that we saw in episode one, which is quite
<v Speaker 2>a few storylines.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so the match Shreker voice over here, they try
<v Speaker 1>to you know, kind of piece some stuff together here,
<v Speaker 1>by the way, just for prosperity sake. This was taped
<v Speaker 1>September seventh, twenty fourteen, and aired November fifth, twenty fourteen.
<v Speaker 1>Here and yeah, so Blue Daymond Junior to beat Chavo.
<v Speaker 1>Dario Aquato called Chavo Abama and said his family thinks
<v Speaker 1>he's a.
<v Speaker 2>Bit all right, well let's do it's right the show
<v Speaker 2>this week.
<v Speaker 1>Buddy Matt Striker calls the Son of Havoc and Sexy
<v Speaker 1>Star match a battle of the sexes, and boy, oh boy,
<v Speaker 1>they really really drive this one home this week. And
<v Speaker 1>they also say again that he pulled the tights. Just
<v Speaker 1>not a single piece of footage exists that shows him
<v Speaker 1>the tights.
<v Speaker 2>He went for it, though you saw it, just.
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see it happened. Dario also refused to give
<v Speaker 1>Johnny Mundo the one hundred thousand dollars despite him having
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess it's just implied that he had
<v Speaker 1>the best performance because he beat Prince Bumba, but he
<v Speaker 1>refused to give him the money. And Ricky Reyz and
<v Speaker 1>Little Cholo and Big Rick came in here and started
<v Speaker 1>whooping their asses and and got the money. And they're
<v Speaker 1>the new big guns in charge here.
<v Speaker 2>So we started with the city shot here and the
<v Speaker 2>executive due users of the show. Mm hmmm, this might
<v Speaker 2>be like the most executive producers I've ever seen on
<v Speaker 2>any TV show. Maybe I just don't pay attention.
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people need a lot of credit, especially
<v Speaker 1>in pro wrestling, James, and you should know that.
<v Speaker 2>True. Well, we see the sign and then we head
<v Speaker 2>into the temple here.
<v Speaker 1>This shot is pretty cool though, by the way, you
<v Speaker 1>mentioned it last week. How they have a lot of
<v Speaker 1>cool you know, the cars going by and the lights
<v Speaker 1>and the highway shots. They show barbed wire graffiti here
<v Speaker 1>and there, and yeah, I mean again, presentation is super fresh,
<v Speaker 1>especially you know when you know at the time like
<v Speaker 1>this is nothing like any of the other wrestling shows
<v Speaker 1>on TV, So getting a feel for a just a
<v Speaker 1>produced show like this is still pretty cool.
<v Speaker 2>So we start with Dario's Men town hall. I didn't
<v Speaker 2>know what else to call it.
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty good.
<v Speaker 2>We don't know who these people are yet.
<v Speaker 1>Oh you're about to learn, buddy, you are about to learn.
<v Speaker 1>And I mean, how much heat can two can three
<v Speaker 1>guys have? This crowd is so mad?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course they are. I mean the AC hasn't
<v Speaker 2>been on. They're probably our thirteen. In about forty five hour.
<v Speaker 1>Taping, Geches announced Ricochet and Rich Swana against Chuck, Taylor
<v Speaker 1>and Trent they'd rather go watch that. So Ricky Rayz
<v Speaker 1>is the first man to talk here on on on
<v Speaker 1>this one here, and I was very excited. Roight widlerds.
<v Speaker 2>Nobody ever said that, like, no.
<v Speaker 1>No one was ever. Yeah, Julie Smoke said it. So, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>Ricky rays is the first talk here and he tells
<v Speaker 1>everyone to shut up. Big Rick is in the ring
<v Speaker 1>and he's smoking a penis, which, uh, you know all
<v Speaker 1>all bosses do that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyone named Rick also does that.
<v Speaker 1>That's fucking actually true. What the hell?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just a long term thing.
<v Speaker 1>Meltzer in his review of this, by the way, said
<v Speaker 1>that they said that Big Rick spent his money the
<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousand dollars on cigars. Did they say that?
<v Speaker 2>Oh I didn't hear that.
<v Speaker 1>If they said that, Yeah, I missed that too. That's
<v Speaker 1>fucking funniest shit if that's the case here.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought maybe he would, you know, maybe give
<v Speaker 2>the guys that did a lot of the work some
<v Speaker 2>of the money.
<v Speaker 1>His boys at Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Cool.
<v Speaker 1>Well, Ricky Rea says, we're not here to play no games,
<v Speaker 1>and we're here to beat up people and take their money.
<v Speaker 1>And there's only one name you need to remember, and
<v Speaker 1>that's Cortes Castro, which all right, not Ricky rez is
<v Speaker 1>Cortez Castro. But I don't know. Saying there's only one
<v Speaker 1>name you need to remember while you're state to what
<v Speaker 1>two your boys sounds a little ridiculous.
<v Speaker 2>You also have two names, which Matt Striker doesn't know
<v Speaker 2>any of them through the show.
<v Speaker 1>Then little Cholo grabs the mic and he says, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and they call me Cisco, all right, when do they
<v Speaker 1>add the mister I'm not sure it might just happen naturally.
<v Speaker 1>He just gets a lot of respect.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Big Rick just gave him an honorific They said, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>go and mister yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Throw him on there. Respond well, Big Rick does. He
<v Speaker 1>says he's the boss, and he says he's Big Rick
<v Speaker 1>in the crowd, I mean, unreal heat here for Big
<v Speaker 1>rig And he says, Johnny Mundo, you knew my face,
<v Speaker 1>but last week he found out who I am, and
<v Speaker 1>Johnny Mundo took it as a sign of disrespect because
<v Speaker 1>he immediately hits the ring and double leggs Cisco not
<v Speaker 1>mister just Cisco U and I mean he's whooping him
<v Speaker 1>and and and Cortes's ass immediately running a train on them.
<v Speaker 1>Kicking the shit out of them. So Cortes, Castro and
<v Speaker 1>Cisco grabbing wooden chairs from around the ring side because
<v Speaker 1>that's all they had. There was no other than obviouslyeel
<v Speaker 1>One's here, Chavo's hoarding all those and they're you know,
<v Speaker 1>surrounding the ring trying to go for Johnny Mundo, but
<v Speaker 1>Prince Luma hits the ring to even the odds and
<v Speaker 1>we you know, have a little stand off until Dario
<v Speaker 1>Quato comes out from his office, which also looks way
<v Speaker 1>nicer than the temple itself. Again, another place in this
<v Speaker 1>building that just looks way cooler, uh than and more
<v Speaker 1>in enjoyable to be in in the temple the ring area,
<v Speaker 1>and Dario comes out from his office and says, hold on,
<v Speaker 1>if you guys are going to beat the hell out
<v Speaker 1>of each other, let's make an official give me a
<v Speaker 1>referee because we're gonna have a tag team match right now.
<v Speaker 1>And that sets it up. We have a tag team
<v Speaker 1>match start off the show. Its Prince Puma and Johnny
<v Speaker 1>Mundo versus Cortes Castro and mister Cisco, and Big Rick
<v Speaker 1>is chilling on the stairs looking big.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so was the office like? Is that like beside
<v Speaker 2>the ring. I don't know if if he had like
<v Speaker 2>any talk about this yet. They actually don't even bring
<v Speaker 2>it up on the show yet. I was so I
<v Speaker 2>saw him walk out and then get on a mic
<v Speaker 2>and start talking, but it was a shot that was cold.
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like connected to the rest of the shots. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>so I actually didn't know where the office was, and
<v Speaker 2>I also didn't know it was right to out the ring.
<v Speaker 2>I just kind of figured it out, right. I was like,
<v Speaker 2>it must be like pretty close to where they're at.
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, the office is right beside the fucking ring.
<v Speaker 2>So he's like watching everything right here from the office, right,
<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of the idea.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly. Yeah, he's like he's go to the action.
<v Speaker 2>M that's pretty cool, dude.
<v Speaker 1>It's super cool actually, And I mean as we go
<v Speaker 1>on here, not to spoil stuff, but there is like
<v Speaker 1>interaction with it and stuff, and I always uh had
<v Speaker 1>hopes I mean Lucha Underground video game, because there are
<v Speaker 1>so many places that they could have did stuff like
<v Speaker 1>with here.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, as we see later in the evening,
<v Speaker 2>there's like nine different areas in this temple. I mean
<v Speaker 2>it's huge. This is like the biggest warehouse in this barrio.
<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing yes, it fucking feels like it, especially when
<v Speaker 1>they do the wide shot. It takes up a full
<v Speaker 1>block or two. It looked like Also, yeah, so as
<v Speaker 1>you as you said, yeah, he's his office is legit.
<v Speaker 1>He opens a door and like, I mean, he could
<v Speaker 1>if he wanted to, he could jump from his office
<v Speaker 1>onto the stairs. Like that's how close it is.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm kind of surprised that, uh like after this match,
<v Speaker 2>you know why Johnny Mundo and Prince Pumaden just walk
<v Speaker 2>over the office day man? So what was that deal
<v Speaker 2>last week?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right, there was none of that. Huh yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I guess.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, like maybe there's like a bodyguard or something
<v Speaker 2>outside the door. I'm just kind of piecing together thought
<v Speaker 2>as I was watching, you know, just wonder it could be. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>what what the deal is with this? But I assume,
<v Speaker 2>like I said, they'll they'll get into this as the
<v Speaker 2>season goes on.
<v Speaker 1>You don't just storm into Lafe's office, Are you fucking
<v Speaker 1>kidding me? Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean it would have been cool if they
<v Speaker 2>did and then just got beat the fuck out of,
<v Speaker 2>like just.
<v Speaker 1>Two big security guards throw them out through the door
<v Speaker 1>fucking fresh print style.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would have been sick. So we have the
<v Speaker 2>tag team match here, Johnny Mundo and Prince Puma versus
<v Speaker 2>Cortez Castro and Cisco. Puma and Mundo take advantage early
<v Speaker 2>here with a great shine, Striker and Vampiro put over Puma.
<v Speaker 1>On commentary, Dude, yes, Striker says, Prince Puma is one
<v Speaker 1>of those guys you call your friends about, and so
<v Speaker 1>you gotta watch this guy. Oh well, I don't really
<v Speaker 1>watch wrestling, trust me. This isn't wrestling you're used to.
<v Speaker 1>All right, Why you fucking make like making up a
<v Speaker 1>scenario where I'm calling somebody that I know doesn't like
<v Speaker 1>wrestling to talk about fucking friends Puma.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, Striker actually had a lot to say here.
<v Speaker 2>Striker says Puma is learning a lot from Conan. Uh
<v Speaker 2>and if he as stops him just immediately and says, hey,
<v Speaker 2>no he's not you know, he's corrupting that young man. No,
<v Speaker 2>he's not. Look, bro, this guy's evil.
<v Speaker 1>Conan should die, Buddy, Codan should fucking die. Oh all right,
<v Speaker 1>well I'm gonna call my friend about it who hates wrestling.
<v Speaker 2>Tell him Codan is gonna die on this.
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't like coonan and I don't know who
<v Speaker 1>that is. You trust me, you should tune into this.
<v Speaker 2>Oh this is going to podcast. Doesn't know where the
<v Speaker 2>office is? Yeah, well guess about tune in, buddy, you'll
<v Speaker 2>learn something.
<v Speaker 1>Well, what if I watch a Spanish version? I don't
<v Speaker 1>know what's going on. You should watch them both versions.
<v Speaker 2>Oh I don't, I don't have the already. Nowhere, go
<v Speaker 2>I can't watch this shounder and call your friend, get
<v Speaker 2>an XWT account watch it. So we go back into
<v Speaker 2>the ring. Here, Mundo does a spinner Rooney kick into
<v Speaker 2>Cisco and I swear to God, just kicked him right
<v Speaker 2>in the top of his head.
<v Speaker 1>Dude, he dums him with this kid. It's actually awesome.
<v Speaker 2>I expect to see like a cartoon, just big bulb
<v Speaker 2>on the top of his head.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, miss Cisco has a question. Well, you gotta keep
<v Speaker 1>orkings are busy later.
<v Speaker 2>So Striker asked Cisco earlier today what is his style?
<v Speaker 2>And apparently Cisco told him that it's prison shower style.
<v Speaker 2>I have many questions here, but I'm just going to
<v Speaker 2>tackle the most obvious one. When did Striker see the
<v Speaker 2>hired gun Cisco earlier today to ask commentary questions. Was
<v Speaker 2>he just hanging out backstage?
<v Speaker 1>Matt Striker, known for hanging out with all the heels here,
<v Speaker 1>He was probably going back there to tell him about
<v Speaker 1>Fritz Buma.
<v Speaker 7>This guy came in and hurt somebody and then ran
<v Speaker 7>away with money, and Striker.
<v Speaker 2>Had time to go ask him. So, what do you
<v Speaker 2>want me to call you on commentary?
<v Speaker 1>Heydeed, I know he just ransacked the company and fucking
<v Speaker 1>beat up our top babies. Can you tell me how
<v Speaker 1>you wrestle? Like? What should I say? How did Striker
<v Speaker 1>know he was going to wrestle on this show?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it wasn't a it was it was a match
<v Speaker 2>that got made right then too. So Cortes grabs Mundo
<v Speaker 2>when he goes for a sling shot and bumps him,
<v Speaker 2>which allows Cortes and Cisco to take over.
<v Speaker 1>Here.
<v Speaker 2>Striker says that Cortes's name is inspired by Cortes, the
<v Speaker 2>killer who came into Mexico and ended many of the tribes.
<v Speaker 2>I am glad that they touched on that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dude, Okay, That's one thing I do really like
<v Speaker 1>about kind of the entire presentation here, is you know.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, everybody gets an explanation, even these guys, you know,
<v Speaker 1>like which again, I don't know how they got this
<v Speaker 1>much information, all these guys, but at the very least,
<v Speaker 1>you know they it adds a little something to like
<v Speaker 1>their character.
<v Speaker 2>Big Rick is sitting on the steps watching this match.
<v Speaker 2>He's got the sick gar puffing that thing crazy. Uh,
<v Speaker 2>great character here, I'm already in love with it. To me,
<v Speaker 2>this is his defining character.
<v Speaker 1>Dude, Ivy, this is fucking like a boss. Like he
<v Speaker 1>calls himself the boss. I mean, when you think of it,
<v Speaker 1>like this is a boss and yeah, like he looks
<v Speaker 1>big as fuck and he's got henchman. What more could
<v Speaker 1>you ask for?
<v Speaker 2>I don't even need to see him wrestle, and I'm like, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>this is like the coolest wrestler ever. Dude.
<v Speaker 1>By the way, Striker so they're doing some shit here
<v Speaker 1>in Striker says, you know, it's the style of Cortes
<v Speaker 1>en Castro that is going to clash with the style
<v Speaker 1>of Mundo and Puma. So Cortez Castro is one guy,
<v Speaker 1>just the one. Well he has two names, I don't
<v Speaker 1>I mean, fucking can we show us some respect to
<v Speaker 1>Cisco I think Cisco needs something before his name to
<v Speaker 1>really set him apart.
<v Speaker 2>Well, Mundo uses his Parkour moves to duck and dodge
<v Speaker 2>into the Puma hot tag.
<v Speaker 1>Very cool.
<v Speaker 2>Puma comes in. He has two back elbows, two lines,
<v Speaker 2>and then a ddt into new breaker combo for a two.
<v Speaker 1>I mean vampiro is I mean he's losing his goddamn
<v Speaker 1>mind at Principluma breathing, let alone, doing his fucking shitty ere.
<v Speaker 2>Puma hits a handspring drop kick into a shooter for
<v Speaker 2>a two. Mundo comes in. He hits a rona on Cortes,
<v Speaker 2>then misses when he goes for a sling shot.
<v Speaker 1>Tornido fucking on like he eats shit on that too.
<v Speaker 2>Cortez and Cisco hit a sick kick into neck breaker
<v Speaker 2>double team for a two.
<v Speaker 3>Uh.
<v Speaker 2>They look for the shatter machine here, but Mundo grabs
<v Speaker 2>Cortes and Puma rolls up Cisco for a two.
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was gonna be it, to be honest
<v Speaker 1>with you, that felt like a TV finish to me.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I definitely thought they were taking it home there.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, okay, he'll beat him that way. It
<v Speaker 2>kind of protects him a little bit, but uh yeah,
<v Speaker 2>there was a back end of this match that ended
<v Speaker 2>up being good too, So.
<v Speaker 1>I actually wouldn't have been like, and maybe that's just
<v Speaker 1>what I'm used to right with watching TV stuff. I
<v Speaker 1>would have been totally like, okay, yeah, like he got
<v Speaker 1>the roll up and that leaves more for next week,
<v Speaker 1>but there's actually more and it's awesome.
<v Speaker 2>Mundo hits a moonlight drive on Cisco two. Puma hits
<v Speaker 2>a sensational flip dive on Cortes to the outside, but
<v Speaker 2>Cisco rolls up Mundo using the ropes for a tube.
<v Speaker 2>Once again, I thought it was it right there.
<v Speaker 1>Dude, fucking super feet on the ropes too. I said, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>that's the end of the match, which again I would
<v Speaker 1>have been fine with.
<v Speaker 2>Puma and Mundo do the inner City machine gun spot
<v Speaker 2>where Mundo up and overs and Puma hits a drop
<v Speaker 2>kick into the corner on Cisco.
<v Speaker 1>Which a great fucking spot. And I mean, the is
<v Speaker 1>it the finish of this is also an inner city
<v Speaker 1>machine guns finish, isn't it?
<v Speaker 2>It is a lot of times they would do it.
<v Speaker 2>Rich One would do the one where he's standing up
<v Speaker 2>and he jumps and does the four oh oh yes, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that was awesome. Fritz, Puma and Johnny Mundo head to
<v Speaker 2>the top on opposite corners and hits stereo four fifties
<v Speaker 2>to pick up the win.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is so cool these guys are I mean,
<v Speaker 1>what a great Babyface tag team, especially for the top
<v Speaker 1>end of the show, right like this, these are the
<v Speaker 1>guys like that are doing all that. Like you hear
<v Speaker 1>lucha and then you see two guys like this going
<v Speaker 1>ballsla wall and doing double four fifties, Like, yeah, okay,
<v Speaker 1>I completely understand the show. Vampiro says, Oh man, I've
<v Speaker 1>never seen anything like that. Vampio, don't go down the street,
<v Speaker 1>stay out of receiint it. It'll fuck this show up
<v Speaker 1>for you.
<v Speaker 2>Puma and Mundo like they hit the stereo four fifties
<v Speaker 2>in the back. You can hear Big Rick yelling I
<v Speaker 2>can't do any of that shit. Oddlie. So we got
<v Speaker 2>to a pre tape here Conan is at the Temple
<v Speaker 2>in the locker room and he's talking to Prince Puma.
<v Speaker 1>I was confused for a second because they showed like
<v Speaker 1>a sink and then it pans over to Conan sitting.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, is this like him taking a shit.
<v Speaker 1>But no, it's it's it's a lot more mature than that.
<v Speaker 1>I'm just a child. He's just yelling. Uh, he has
<v Speaker 1>a cane. By the way. He did have hip surgery,
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I did, and I did read that.
<v Speaker 1>So like during this first out of tapings he had
<v Speaker 1>the hip replacement. I think that's what it.
<v Speaker 2>Was, which is a huge surgery.
<v Speaker 1>It's unreal. So the fact that he's even here at all,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, good on him. Fuck and cause that shit
<v Speaker 1>sounds horrible. Conan says, you know, I was right about you.
<v Speaker 1>You're what everyone's talking about. You are Lucha underground. But
<v Speaker 1>Johnny Mundo, you need to stay away from him. His
<v Speaker 1>fight ain't your fight. And he definitely hit your friend.
<v Speaker 1>In this business, you got one friend, and you're looking
<v Speaker 1>at him and Prince Puma. You know, he doesn't seem uh,
<v Speaker 1>he's not thrilled with this information, but he trusts Conan.
<v Speaker 1>He gives him a nod, and Conan of course says,
<v Speaker 1>odla and he says, let's bounce P.
<v Speaker 2>Well, let's bounce P.
<v Speaker 1>Like I I again, this is something that like kept
<v Speaker 1>me watching this show for so long, Like this is
<v Speaker 1>a twenty thirty second backstage that like just again just
<v Speaker 1>planning seeds.
<v Speaker 2>So it shows Matt Striker and Vampiro here. Uh, they
<v Speaker 2>have a new setup from the first episode and uh
<v Speaker 2>it looks awesome.
<v Speaker 1>Is this like from a different episode? Huh was this
<v Speaker 1>put in like separately because the table they show here
<v Speaker 1>definitely doesn't look like the table that they interact within
<v Speaker 1>the main event.
<v Speaker 2>Oh maybe there's like a well, like maybe they have
<v Speaker 2>like a table that they record stuff after a cold shot.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just to sort of preempt the pre tape.
<v Speaker 1>Here, because there's shots later where they show the commentary
<v Speaker 1>with Jeff Jarrett or somebody looks just like Jeff Jarreed
<v Speaker 1>sitting behind them, and that's not the shot here. So yeah,
<v Speaker 1>maybe they had to redoce some shit or added some
<v Speaker 1>shit in after to talk about milmoretz YadA, YadA, YadA.
<v Speaker 2>I like the shot though, it looks nice.
<v Speaker 1>It does look cool. Yeah, not as much of your
<v Speaker 1>your camera this week, though, the little h the side camera.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I guess the go pro they got off
<v Speaker 2>of a garage sale website probably just wasn't gonna cut it.
<v Speaker 1>Vanfer kept standing up and fucking up all the shots
<v Speaker 1>so they had nothing to use.
<v Speaker 2>Well, Striker says that milm ware Tes is coming tonight
<v Speaker 2>and he's coming for you.
<v Speaker 1>Hell, mel Mortz translates to one thousand deaths, which that's
<v Speaker 1>fucking scary at shit.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with that, there was a Spike TV show called
<v Speaker 2>that or something A thousand Ways to Die. Yeah, that's
<v Speaker 2>probably right.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and every week for some reason there was just
<v Speaker 1>some iteration of guy wants to have sex with a
<v Speaker 1>really really big woman and dies.
<v Speaker 2>We know what pops are ratings.
<v Speaker 1>Mil Moritz is here to show you one thousand other
<v Speaker 1>ways to die or he just kills you. So we
<v Speaker 1>get a mill morts hype video here. There's a female
<v Speaker 1>voiceover talking about talking about what I'm saying. You know,
<v Speaker 1>one thing is certain, A thousand deaths are coming and
<v Speaker 1>mil Mortes will make his debut tonight. And this dude
<v Speaker 1>is a I mean, he is a staple of this show.
<v Speaker 1>So this is a pretty big debut already.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I love the I love the way the pretape
<v Speaker 2>was here. It was very unnerving. We don't know who
<v Speaker 2>the woman is doing the voiceover, but I believe it
<v Speaker 2>ends up being Katrina here in a bit, Yes, we
<v Speaker 2>are in the bowels of the temple. It zooms in
<v Speaker 2>on milm waretes and he's screaming great masks.
<v Speaker 1>Its shot right, like you kind of see him, but
<v Speaker 1>it's not yeah, a full view. You just kind of
<v Speaker 1>see his jump, yeah right, yeah exactly, and he walks away.
<v Speaker 1>You see how fucking big he is?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, great use of Judas mas see us here,
<v Speaker 2>because like I don't think in the end it ever
<v Speaker 2>really worked out for him in TNA, Like people really
<v Speaker 2>just didn't buy into it. But he's huge and like
<v Speaker 2>this mask is awesome, Like everything about this just screams
<v Speaker 2>like this is gonna work. So it's dope to to
<v Speaker 2>see this.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, his most important run was in a company
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people compared to this one, of course,
<v Speaker 1>being Wrestling Society.
<v Speaker 2>X oh that's true. Sure if that was his defining run, Like.
<v Speaker 1>How do you I'm surprising Vampiro and commentary should have
<v Speaker 1>been talking about this. Hey fucking this guy throw a
<v Speaker 1>fireball at me and killed the company. Milmore says, being
<v Speaker 1>a thousand deaths means a thousand bad companies I'm working for.
<v Speaker 2>I've killed a thousand companies. I about to make one
<v Speaker 2>thousand and one and he does. So we have Son
<v Speaker 2>of Havoc and Evalis versus Chava Gerra Junior and Sexy Star.
<v Speaker 1>There was a cool shot, by the way, just a
<v Speaker 1>transition out of the commercial here where they they showed
<v Speaker 1>and you you talked about it before the biggest sign
<v Speaker 1>that's on top of the temple. They did a shot
<v Speaker 1>that went from super close on that to zooming down
<v Speaker 1>and that which went into the temple, which I was like, wow,
<v Speaker 1>that is fucking awesome.
<v Speaker 2>We have Vampiro here. He says that Chavo seems to
<v Speaker 2>be in good spirits seeing they tapped out the blue Damon,
<v Speaker 2>something I would never do. By the way, this dude
<v Speaker 2>is so funny man, Like, there's just something so funny
<v Speaker 2>about everything. He says.
<v Speaker 1>He's such a shitter, like you know, he's riven the
<v Speaker 1>boys crazy too, like god damn. So this is of
<v Speaker 1>course a mixed tag matches, as you mentioned the participants,
<v Speaker 1>and if you didn't know it was a mixed tag match,
<v Speaker 1>if you just if you didn't, if you close your
<v Speaker 1>eyes during this match, you would know, because they don't
<v Speaker 1>fucking stop talking about it this whole time.
<v Speaker 2>They don't.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Striker says, normally a mix tag matches. The men
<v Speaker 1>wrestle the men, and the women wrestle the women, but
<v Speaker 1>not here, and Vampiro says, the other guys. Other promotions
<v Speaker 1>won't let girls mix it up with the guys. But
<v Speaker 1>this is twenty fourteen. This is looch underground, this is
<v Speaker 1>equal opportunity, dog, And I'm like, okay, listen, not a
<v Speaker 1>fucking bad way to go, Dick. I don't remember, you
<v Speaker 1>know how things were twenty fourteen. I remember Candice Larraye
<v Speaker 1>just getting annihilated every show I watched. I don't know, dude,
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of intergender stuff going on on
<v Speaker 1>the wrestling I was watching, but maybe not as much
<v Speaker 1>on TV regardless.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they didn't compare themselves to that. They compare themselves
<v Speaker 2>to a WWE.
<v Speaker 1>So right, yeah, exactly, And I guess yeah, see, I mean, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's mostly WWE, right, Like, I don't know
<v Speaker 1>how much TNA was even a factor at this point.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean ODB and Eric Young, were they not? Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>True, that's true. Yeah, so you know again not I
<v Speaker 1>I totally get it. But they spend this whole fucking
<v Speaker 1>match like harping on the fact that these dudes are
<v Speaker 1>wrestling women and stuff, and he like it takes It's like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>this isn't normal then, huh, Like you have to keep
<v Speaker 1>fucking telling me that this is what this is and
<v Speaker 1>this is how it should be. You're ramming it on
<v Speaker 1>my throat like okay, holy shit, Like if you keep
<v Speaker 1>having to make me look at how different it is,
<v Speaker 1>it's not different. You're making it not normal.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the other promotions don't let the girls mix it up. Well,
<v Speaker 2>guess what, it's twenty fourteen, dumb ass.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you earl.
<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah, no problem. I just thought I.
<v Speaker 1>Would also, So yeah, they do all that right. And
<v Speaker 1>then immediately after that, fucking Matt Striker says, well, you know,
<v Speaker 1>son of Havoc needed to pull the tights to beat
<v Speaker 1>a woman. Okay, what like, which way we're going?
<v Speaker 2>Can you show can you show us where you pulled
<v Speaker 2>the tights?
<v Speaker 1>Please? Fucking any proof of that?
<v Speaker 2>Ball? Vnpira also says, uh, if you want to fight,
<v Speaker 2>just show up to the temple. If you got the
<v Speaker 2>right size cock and balls, you come down here to
<v Speaker 2>the temple and you try to fight, you try to
<v Speaker 2>fight me.
<v Speaker 1>He legit says, you got the right sized balls?
<v Speaker 2>He says, you got the right size three piece set,
<v Speaker 2>you come down here to the temple.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, this.
<v Speaker 2>Guy is so funny, like it's it's nuts.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I've ever heard dick of Balls
<v Speaker 1>described as pretty set to take that up here? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I like that.
<v Speaker 2>Well that's it's loaded. Yeah, so son of Havoc and
<v Speaker 2>Chavo start off. Of course, the chops sound insane here.
<v Speaker 1>It's the whole show, dude, like you got your You'll
<v Speaker 1>get used to it, but it's legit. Every strike like
<v Speaker 1>that will be that sound.
<v Speaker 2>I will say. Uh, the audio mix here is a
<v Speaker 2>lot better than it was in week one, dude.
<v Speaker 1>It actually was so much better that I thought the
<v Speaker 1>commentary was like all redone, But right.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was either. I definitely think some
<v Speaker 2>parts of it were U in this match specifically. I'll
<v Speaker 2>talk about it here in a minute, but sure I
<v Speaker 2>did just about dieing this part. Matt Striker says Sexy
<v Speaker 2>Star would love to get her hand on Havoc, and
<v Speaker 2>Vampire says, technically, Matt, that's not Havoc, that's having Sun.
<v Speaker 1>Matt Shriker ignores them immediately and says, I have it
<v Speaker 1>going for h.
<v Speaker 2>Chase due, So I wrote it.
<v Speaker 1>I legit wrote down here. Fucking he said, Matt, that's
<v Speaker 1>not having that's having sun It right after I said,
<v Speaker 1>oh no, shot the possum.
<v Speaker 2>That shit hit me like a brick. That's haavcs sun Heart.
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, wow, yeah, just an all star Vampio episode here, man.
<v Speaker 1>Dude, all right, if we're gonna keep talking about Vampire,
<v Speaker 1>there's a part a little bit before that where Chavo
<v Speaker 1>is grabbing Havoc's beard and he's pulling him by the beard,
<v Speaker 1>and Vampiro say, is careful, get that beard right off
<v Speaker 1>of his face. And he's an ugly bastard. You don't
<v Speaker 1>want to.
<v Speaker 5>See that, hey man, he did say it on the
<v Speaker 5>Spanish one.
<v Speaker 2>So Sexy Star gets the tag. She goes to town
<v Speaker 2>on Son of Havoc. Of course she lost to him
<v Speaker 2>last week. Evalise and Sexy Star faced off for a
<v Speaker 2>minute here, and the editing here is so absurd.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.
<v Speaker 2>There are three different cold lines from commentary. We are
<v Speaker 2>cutting to full shots of Son of Havoc. We're switched
<v Speaker 2>to the top cam for no reason. I had to
<v Speaker 2>literally like take a second pause because my brain couldn't
<v Speaker 2>comprehend what the linear shot was supposed to be. I
<v Speaker 2>didn't know what was happening.
<v Speaker 1>It felt like a bad recording, right, Like I thought
<v Speaker 1>something got like cut out like of what I was watching,
<v Speaker 1>like the upload. But no, it was like.
<v Speaker 2>They just just how it was.
<v Speaker 1>They couldn't cover up for them fuck.
<v Speaker 2>It up here, Yeah it was. It was like it
<v Speaker 2>was a lot.
<v Speaker 1>Sadly, it was probably the best they could have done
<v Speaker 1>with what they had, unless they legit cut out a
<v Speaker 1>full segment of like their shit here, which I don't
<v Speaker 1>know if they could have because it leads to like
<v Speaker 1>an outside spot that leads to the rest of the match,
<v Speaker 1>like just tough.
<v Speaker 2>And then it cuts to Vampiro, who says, son of
<v Speaker 2>hev it kind of looked like a sixteenth century executioner.
<v Speaker 1>That Striker like ignores him ninety percent of the time,
<v Speaker 1>just fucking lets him go, oh.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is this is an all star performance. I
<v Speaker 2>gotta say one of my favorite commentary performances, uh for
<v Speaker 2>Vampire or.
<v Speaker 1>Which is I mean, he like gets crazier, dude, like
<v Speaker 1>he's on all four seasons, dude. Striker at one point
<v Speaker 1>says Java was ranked one of the top ten loutra
<v Speaker 1>doors in the world at one point, and Vampiro says, yeah, well,
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Sona Havoc was, and I think Chevo's
<v Speaker 1>stock is dropped. Last week very Son caught him, Shavo.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, Vampio would have never tapped out of Blue d.
<v Speaker 1>He might be to you, brother.
<v Speaker 2>So Sexy Star blocks the standing moon saw, which leads
<v Speaker 2>to Chavo getting a hot tag. Chavo comes in with fire,
<v Speaker 2>hits a Coppo kick in the corner on Son of Havoc.
<v Speaker 2>That was cool, and Evelise breaks it up. Uh. Sexy
<v Speaker 2>Star hits a meteor off the apron to Evelise.
<v Speaker 1>That was fucking pretty, like she almost jumped over her
<v Speaker 1>like missing.
<v Speaker 2>Chavo goes up, he hits the frog splash. He tags
<v Speaker 2>a Sexy Star who comes in with a victory roll
<v Speaker 2>and picks up the wind.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I get again, I get what they were going
<v Speaker 1>for with this match. The fucking harping on the ship
<v Speaker 1>just really took me out of it. Son of Havoc
<v Speaker 1>is dope, though I like him a lot.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I believe from what I remember reading, Sona Havoc's
<v Speaker 2>gimmick changes quite a bit or at least his character
<v Speaker 2>not its gimmick.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, he kind of on the show changes. Right,
<v Speaker 1>that's right.
<v Speaker 2>We go to a pre tape here Blue Daymon is
<v Speaker 2>working out in full gear at the gym at the
<v Speaker 2>bottom of the temple.
<v Speaker 1>I think he's got some weights. And uh, is this
<v Speaker 1>the same area you think Prince Puma also worked out
<v Speaker 1>in or is this a different one?
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't know. I did see some equipment here
<v Speaker 2>on the ground Puma usually works out. There's some ring somewhere.
<v Speaker 1>Which is a different like that's not the Temple ring,
<v Speaker 1>it's a different.
<v Speaker 2>Rich underground had like pe See.
<v Speaker 1>They were way ahead of the time here. You think
<v Speaker 1>Blue Demon also not using any of this workout equipment.
<v Speaker 1>He was just warming up like we was just.
<v Speaker 2>Kind of moving left and right right. It was like
<v Speaker 2>one of those deal wrestler you hit the ropes right, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>get a little loose. Yeah, right. Well, a woman walks
<v Speaker 2>up behind him. He doesn't see her or hear her.
<v Speaker 2>She goes to touch him on the back and when
<v Speaker 2>he turns around, she disappears.
<v Speaker 1>He's going senile.
<v Speaker 2>And then she just walks in front of him. Oh,
<v Speaker 2>sorry to me, Garry.
<v Speaker 1>So this is she introduces herself. She says she's an
<v Speaker 1>associate of mil Mortez and she's Katrina, and mill sends
<v Speaker 1>a message and then Katrina licks his face and I
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, that's a mighty interesting message to send.
<v Speaker 1>And she says a taste before one thousand deaths. And
<v Speaker 1>then there's someone this shot here the actually show is
<v Speaker 1>really cool. It's a close up shot of Blue Damont's
<v Speaker 1>face and there's intense music playing and he wipes his
<v Speaker 1>face off and he's looking like not too thrilled again.
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was cool, just funny. Milmore Tes sends
<v Speaker 1>a message.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he was gonna do this, but I guess
<v Speaker 2>I'll do it. So this is the debut of Katrina
<v Speaker 2>and putting her here with milmare Tez. This is the
<v Speaker 2>debut of two new characters here in the main event.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and they're like yeah, like like I mentioned
<v Speaker 1>they you know, they are staples of this show for
<v Speaker 1>a while after this, I think, guess we didn't talk
<v Speaker 1>about it. I don't know how many people would remember her
<v Speaker 1>in WWE, but she was in WWEH for a cup
<v Speaker 1>of Coffee? She was Maxine in WWE. She might have
<v Speaker 1>been was she like nxt GM or some shit like that.
<v Speaker 1>Am I remembering that wrong?
<v Speaker 2>I remember her being around Johnny Curtis.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, that's right. I do remember that as well.
<v Speaker 2>It's pretty much it. I don't know she was actually
<v Speaker 2>doing anything with Johnny Curtis or she was just around him.
<v Speaker 1>I think he was just maybe he was around her,
<v Speaker 1>is what it was, because he was a weirdvestar.
<v Speaker 2>So we go to a pre tape here Prince Puma
<v Speaker 2>is training with Conan, and Conan talks about, you know,
<v Speaker 2>more about Prince Puma's tribe in the Aztec and things
<v Speaker 2>of that nature.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Puma's going to town on a heavy bag. Blue
<v Speaker 1>Damon's looking at him like this kid's fucking just lost it. No,
<v Speaker 1>Blue was not here. She was the funny shit. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>Conan's hyping him up. And he says he's always scouting
<v Speaker 1>for talent. But one of close friends, someone you might
<v Speaker 1>all know, said he found a new star for me
<v Speaker 1>to train. I never thought he would have found him
<v Speaker 1>in the worst bodios in the country, And he said
<v Speaker 1>he found him in a back alley literally fighting for
<v Speaker 1>his life. Normally his pal would have stepped into help,
<v Speaker 1>but he didn't need any help. I'll be honest, I
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure this is explained. I don't fucking remember who
<v Speaker 1>they're talking about, though, that's got to be the Rock
<v Speaker 1>was definitely talk Oh you know what, I wonder if
<v Speaker 1>it's fucking Ray Oh okay, because he comes here spoilers.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, right, which is a good seed to plant, by.
<v Speaker 1>The way, yes, oh my god. Yeah, I mean even
<v Speaker 1>if it's not Ray, right, like just having something to
<v Speaker 1>kind of throw back to here, But I think it
<v Speaker 1>might be because remember they were in the Filthy Animals together, right.
<v Speaker 2>Of course they're gonna hump you like the dog, right,
<v Speaker 2>calling a soldier, I'd be pretty cool.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Ray saw this Prince Puma guy fighting and
<v Speaker 1>didn't step up to help him. He just said, ah,
<v Speaker 1>fuck you got something your kid?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, cool, good deal. You know, Conane only has a
<v Speaker 2>couple of rules here when train hard and fuck Johnny Mundo.
<v Speaker 1>That's fun with me.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I'm not seeing this evil part that Vampire is
<v Speaker 2>talking about yet, but you will. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I think he says Prince Puma is a direct descendant
<v Speaker 1>one of the fiercest renegade tribes of the Stext and
<v Speaker 1>he's bringing Prince Puma Alucha Underground because it's his calling.
<v Speaker 1>His past may be dark, but his future is very bright.
<v Speaker 1>And then Prince Puma hits a big ass shot on
<v Speaker 1>this heavy bag and knocks it off the chains, which
<v Speaker 1>is cool.
<v Speaker 2>Street fighter asque. Yeah, he hit the bag, it falls down.
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was gonna go to like a still
<v Speaker 2>shot where it's like Prince Puma joins the fight.
<v Speaker 1>He should have jumped on top of it and started a
<v Speaker 1>ground and pounded. Conan has to pull him off. I
<v Speaker 1>took it too.
<v Speaker 2>You're killing him. You don't kill here in the Temple.
<v Speaker 1>It cuts from an alternate shot. It's not actually a
<v Speaker 1>heavy bag. He's just beating the fucking a Blue Demon.
<v Speaker 1>Oh fuck, oh fuck, I didn't realize.
<v Speaker 2>So we have the main event of the evening here,
<v Speaker 2>Blue Damon Junior versus milm ware Tes. Blue Damon is
<v Speaker 2>undefeated here in the Temple, and will uh, I'm gonna
<v Speaker 2>fuck his name up here. Milt Tests is making his
<v Speaker 2>debut with Katrina.
<v Speaker 1>From Beyond the Gray. That's what an awesome place to
<v Speaker 1>be from beyond the grave, dude.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so this is my first time really getting a
<v Speaker 2>full picture here of Milmour because Blue day, Mond's already
<v Speaker 2>in the ring and we get the entrance here the
<v Speaker 2>lights go out. Mill comes out here with Katrina. Katrina
<v Speaker 2>looks great the way they have her set up here
<v Speaker 2>on this show. It really compliments Mill and looks like
<v Speaker 2>a main event act. They make their injurant the lights out.
<v Speaker 2>You know, she has something in her hand is wrapped
<v Speaker 2>in red vlore. I think we find out eventually it's
<v Speaker 2>some sort of stone or something like that, dude, which
<v Speaker 2>is an Easter egg we've gotten to tonight is coming
<v Speaker 2>to Underground.
<v Speaker 1>Wow, I mean, like fuck, dude, there's so much to
<v Speaker 1>catch up on here. I'm excited.
<v Speaker 2>So Katrina gives Mill this, uh it's a stone I'm guessing,
<v Speaker 2>and it's wrapped around you can't get blood from the stone.
<v Speaker 2>Is coming to the temple, That's right. The cat.
<v Speaker 1>Just shipped to be honest, but yes, it gives him
<v Speaker 1>the stone and he becauses it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you know, I'm just trying to take in
<v Speaker 2>this whole, this whole gimmick here. Nothing really comes to
<v Speaker 2>play with the stone in this episode, so I'm interested
<v Speaker 2>to see how that kind of plays out over the
<v Speaker 2>next couple I imagine with how crazy this show seems
<v Speaker 2>to get because you already told me about Dario's deal
<v Speaker 2>what happens to him later on, This stone might as
<v Speaker 2>well steal the souls of the people in the ring
<v Speaker 2>and they die. I don't know what, but I imagine it's
<v Speaker 2>something pretty insane.
<v Speaker 1>I will keep I've enough for you. I'm gonna try
<v Speaker 1>not to going forward. It's a little hard, but I'll
<v Speaker 1>do my best.
<v Speaker 2>But as I mentioned, Katrina looks great. Here really compliments
<v Speaker 2>I made of act is this. I'm guessing most people
<v Speaker 2>that know her probably know her from this role. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>she didn't do very much in w w E from
<v Speaker 2>what I remember now, Yes, yeah, and like this is
<v Speaker 2>probably her defining role in the business, which is pretty cool. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, it's a good act.
<v Speaker 1>She's she's fucking fantastic, dude. And yeah, like the this
<v Speaker 1>is even like barely even scratches the surface of what
<v Speaker 1>they do with her.
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, like I said, like Mill has a great mask.
<v Speaker 2>He's massive, you know, he's got I mean, he just
<v Speaker 2>he's got muscles on muscles, He's popping out of these
<v Speaker 2>these big tights he's got on. He's got a great cape,
<v Speaker 2>good entrance, I was super surprised though in my head
<v Speaker 2>from the pre tapes, I expected like ninety six Undertaker.
<v Speaker 2>Mmmm okay, and then we start the match and he
<v Speaker 2>takes all the gear off and the lights come on
<v Speaker 2>and he's got the blue stripe pants.
<v Speaker 1>Dude, Okay, this is uh you are you are truly
<v Speaker 1>becoming a loot underground fan. This was made fun of
<v Speaker 1>immediately at the time.
<v Speaker 2>Really okay, okay.
<v Speaker 1>A talking point. Yes, no, this was a talking That's
<v Speaker 1>why I waited to the show h to talk about it. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>The the pinstripe blue pants look, at least in my circles,
<v Speaker 1>was talked about. Is this looks fucking ridiculous, Like this
<v Speaker 1>is not intimidating at all, Like it does not fit,
<v Speaker 1>like it felt like he didn't have gear ready because
<v Speaker 1>this is just so you know, this does change.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Right, There's a couple of things that threw me
<v Speaker 2>off here about this character because the way they set
<v Speaker 2>it up here. You know, he's a thousand deaths. You know,
<v Speaker 2>there's this big stone that he carries around that seemingly
<v Speaker 2>can kill people. I'm just guessing that's what it does.
<v Speaker 1>Sure, Sure, you know he's.
<v Speaker 2>Got a valet who who had who has her own gimmick?
<v Speaker 2>So like, yeah, it is a very like I think
<v Speaker 2>it's supposed to be, like not Undertaker esque, but in
<v Speaker 2>that same vein of.
<v Speaker 1>Like he right, he's a he's a beyond this world
<v Speaker 1>kind of saying.
<v Speaker 2>Up blood from himself. He's not. Yeah, yeah, that's a
<v Speaker 2>business half brother, but this guy. Yeah, just a couple
<v Speaker 2>of questions. I'll follow up here as we get through
<v Speaker 2>this match here. But overall, by the way, I was
<v Speaker 2>impressed with uh with.
<v Speaker 1>Us all here, So this is obviously the first time
<v Speaker 1>he's doing this right, Like, so you'll see as it
<v Speaker 1>goes on here. I mean even little things like when
<v Speaker 1>he was getting into the ring he pushed the camera.
<v Speaker 1>The camera thing actually becomes like a staple of his entrance.
<v Speaker 2>So like, yeah, I heard is like scared when it
<v Speaker 2>comes out.
<v Speaker 1>Dude, I mean he fought like he figures this. They
<v Speaker 1>kind of get to where this should be pretty quickly.
<v Speaker 2>He should like hold the stone up and the red
<v Speaker 2>valor and the camera starts like goingating. Yeah. Seven, he
<v Speaker 2>comes to the ring like seven, and then Katrina grabs
<v Speaker 2>the mic and says, this gimmick almost ruined his career
<v Speaker 2>to nineties Judas must see us terrorist and it is
<v Speaker 2>half brothers here too. So we start the match off here.
<v Speaker 2>Moretez immediately takes it to Blue Damon. Here they head
<v Speaker 2>to the desk and uh Moretez bounces Damon's head off
<v Speaker 2>the desk.
<v Speaker 1>He's whooping his ass.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah really. Damon does a standing shotgun drop kick and
<v Speaker 2>does the ar Fox clap.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Oh see, this is this is why,
<v Speaker 1>like I mean, like you're you're the best, like I
<v Speaker 1>legit wrote. Uh, Damon ducks two punches and hits a
<v Speaker 1>front dropkick air Fox style clap.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he really full sends it.
<v Speaker 1>Like I I in my brain. But maybe dude, maybe
<v Speaker 1>that's the Blue Damon clap. Maybe were credit wrong?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe Fox like wrestled in Mexico and saw it
<v Speaker 2>or nothing. I don't know how that works. Or maybe
<v Speaker 2>Damon saw it was.
<v Speaker 1>There is a good chance. I mean, listen, air Fox
<v Speaker 1>might end up here too.
<v Speaker 2>Is air Fox? He's in a Oh my god, he is.
<v Speaker 2>We watched the fucking match, right, wow? How about that?
<v Speaker 1>That's exciting it all comes.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was a great match too. So Blue Daymon
<v Speaker 2>is up in this match here till Katrina distracts him
<v Speaker 2>on the apron.
<v Speaker 1>That's where he wrote this segle from sorry On.
<v Speaker 2>So Mouretz distracts the referee here, and Katrina kicks Daimon
<v Speaker 2>in the head with her heels.
<v Speaker 1>Fucked up man.
<v Speaker 2>Daimon hits a bulldog for two. He climbs the ropes here,
<v Speaker 2>but wil Ware, I'm gonna fuck this guy's.
<v Speaker 1>Name, dude, it took, it takes forever. You're good.
<v Speaker 2>I have to almost like full stop after I say
<v Speaker 2>his first name, uh mil Wuertas.
<v Speaker 1>You got you say it how Melissa Santo says it
<v Speaker 1>yield from beyond the great.
<v Speaker 2>I'll say it like that every single So Mauretes stops him.
<v Speaker 2>He hits a code breaker for a two or was
<v Speaker 2>it a backstabberd.
<v Speaker 1>All long blower? Yes, it's all the yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Right right, okay. Daimon has a d DT for a
<v Speaker 2>two and chops down Wheretes in the corner until the
<v Speaker 2>crowd just starts counting with them.
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was they love that ship they I mean,
<v Speaker 1>they're begging for some crowd participation here.
<v Speaker 2>Wheretz then uses a closed fist and just punches Damon
<v Speaker 2>in the head. I love that.
<v Speaker 1>That's one of his moves. Yeah, dude, he's a and
<v Speaker 1>you get the loose on the ground slap with it
<v Speaker 1>as well. Of course.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's Memphis where tes right there did a little heat.
<v Speaker 2>Uh So Muertz spears him and then he hits a
<v Speaker 2>flat liner and he wins.
<v Speaker 1>That's his move, the flat That's.
<v Speaker 2>What I wanted to talk about with you too. Did
<v Speaker 2>not expect a flat liner to be the finish?
<v Speaker 1>No one did.
<v Speaker 2>Is this is finished the whole time it is.
<v Speaker 1>It's called the straight to Hell.
<v Speaker 2>All right, I'll take it hell yeah, down to hell.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Well, like most of the guys he faces have, like
<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing they have top rope moves, he didn't want
<v Speaker 2>to do like a twoy choke slam as his finish
<v Speaker 2>or something like. He always cuts them off and choke
<v Speaker 2>slams them.
<v Speaker 1>He's I mean, his body might be beat the ship
<v Speaker 1>already here in twenty fourteen, he's been going.
<v Speaker 2>He definitely was. Yeah, it definitely was already.
<v Speaker 1>Because I want to say he's still he's been wrestling
<v Speaker 1>since the nineties.
<v Speaker 2>I want to say, but like, if your body's beat
<v Speaker 2>the ship and your finishes, you taking a flat.
<v Speaker 1>Bat Dad's swell. I didn't say it was smart. Is
<v Speaker 1>there any flat liner that's like good?
<v Speaker 2>So I like the flat liner like as a regular move,
<v Speaker 2>I just as a I mean, okay, especially with the
<v Speaker 2>way they position him here. Sure you know, while this
<v Speaker 2>might be like nitpicky, I think if you're presented as
<v Speaker 2>a thousand deaths.
<v Speaker 1>And you're huge, you should have a killer move.
<v Speaker 2>You know, you have a main event push and you're
<v Speaker 2>seen as like the facto number one guy.
<v Speaker 1>M hm.
<v Speaker 2>Can't be a flat liner. It just can't be.
<v Speaker 1>You're right, No, I don't. I don't. I legit, And
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that you bring that up too, because like
<v Speaker 1>this is stuff that I am like I've already I've
<v Speaker 1>seen it so much that like I've just accepted the
<v Speaker 1>flat line, like yeah, that's his fucking kill move, like
<v Speaker 1>I'm there already, but like hearing it from somebody that
<v Speaker 1>is not used to it is it's an interesting look
<v Speaker 1>on it. I like that, uh and usually and I agree,
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's also it's not a great flat liner either,
<v Speaker 1>Like it's not like Shelton Vegamin or whatever he's like
<v Speaker 1>for it.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm already used to it, like by the
<v Speaker 2>next episode, like, flat liner will be cool. It was
<v Speaker 2>just something that stuck out to me. Those are the
<v Speaker 2>two big things that stuck out to me in this
<v Speaker 2>pants it was it was damn near perfect. It was
<v Speaker 2>his pants right, and the flat liner finished like everything else.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Wow, this is like super dialed in.
<v Speaker 2>They've already got this idea down. Maybe Damon got a
<v Speaker 2>little too much in the middle there. Sure here, but
<v Speaker 2>I imagine Blue Demon say, if Champa Grea is gonna
<v Speaker 2>beat my ass, then I better get something in this
<v Speaker 2>main here.
<v Speaker 1>Dude, Okay, that's one hundred percent what it was. Like.
<v Speaker 1>You gotta make me look like I'm I mean, which
<v Speaker 1>isn't a bad argument, right, Like, if people are going
<v Speaker 1>to give a shit that I'm gonna die, you gotta
<v Speaker 1>make it seem like I meant something when I was alive.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, Muertees hits the flat Liner, he wins the match,
<v Speaker 2>He mounts Daimon, he punches the shit out of him,
<v Speaker 2>and this is where Katrina gives him the rock, which
<v Speaker 2>is an Easter egg for what's to come.
<v Speaker 1>Which is awesome. Yeah, I mean, he gives him that
<v Speaker 1>that stone.
<v Speaker 2>Katrina brings in the rock and Codin and Puma bringing
<v Speaker 2>Stone Cold.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, just one, and we have the games
<v Speaker 1>hell of War with Austin and Rock.
<v Speaker 2>That's their last match ever is Lucia underground Hell of
<v Speaker 2>It would have.
<v Speaker 1>Been sweet, would have been awesome. But uh, you know,
<v Speaker 1>Chavo's here.
<v Speaker 2>Oh right, we're still in that era, right, m.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I gotta get through that first.
<v Speaker 2>So Katrina givesim where tes the rock and Chava makes
<v Speaker 2>the save with the.
<v Speaker 1>Chair steel chair by the way, which you know, of
<v Speaker 1>course the Castro and Cortez. Oh no, that's that's fucking see.
<v Speaker 1>I'm Matt Striker, that one. Cisco and Cortez had the
<v Speaker 1>wooden chairs earlier. Chavo the holder of the steel chair.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So Damon comes over and he pats Chavo on
<v Speaker 2>the back because everything. Hey, man, make sure you don't
<v Speaker 2>have me too hard now. Chavo then turns around and
<v Speaker 2>hits him in the head with the chair.
<v Speaker 1>Come on, man, why why Chava? Why?
<v Speaker 2>Then the refs come in and Chava bumps them too.
<v Speaker 1>Dude. Rick knocks with the He's already got a broken
<v Speaker 1>freaking arm. He laid him out.
<v Speaker 2>Fucked up bone, still bumping for Chavo here like, crowd, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I know, good guy.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Chavo's beating the ship out of Blue daymon
<v Speaker 1>crowd shanning why Chavo hy? Uh they can't believe that
<v Speaker 1>he would do this.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then uh, some more Luca doors running the ring.
<v Speaker 1>Did you recoon? One of them you should recognize?
<v Speaker 2>One of them was Bee Boy.
<v Speaker 1>That was gonna say one of them should recognize because.
<v Speaker 2>You yeah, he was the.
<v Speaker 1>B Boy DPW alumni. B Boy, dude, you can't.
<v Speaker 2>Be Indiana legend. Pick one was that that was the
<v Speaker 2>same not you type.
<v Speaker 1>BoJack too, that's right, yeah him and uh, yeah, that's right.
<v Speaker 1>It was BoJack and Jay and became Lucky jumped them
<v Speaker 1>and the other the belt up and then we were
<v Speaker 1>off to the races.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's right. Uh that that led like a year
<v Speaker 2>and a half DPW stuff.
<v Speaker 1>Really, that's fucking good memories of that me too. Man,
<v Speaker 1>what a what a time.
<v Speaker 2>So Sexy Star runs in and pleads with him to
<v Speaker 2>stop Chavo. Then brain Sexy Star with the chair h
<v Speaker 2>and that is a huge.
<v Speaker 1>Moment, lays her out, dude. Crowds like, oh what the fuck?
<v Speaker 1>And uh, I mean they are god God bless I
<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, God bless them. I mean, I guess
<v Speaker 1>i'd be blessing Chavo. God blessed Chavo for trying to
<v Speaker 1>get this much heat on Chavo.
<v Speaker 2>Just so you know, if the rock doesn't go anywhere,
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be so fucking upset.
<v Speaker 1>We'll see, we'll see rock. I mean like, there's a
<v Speaker 1>lot of things. There's a couple of things you haven't
<v Speaker 1>even noticed that become of importance here that I'm I'm
<v Speaker 1>keeping really cool. Okay, yes, yes.
<v Speaker 2>Well Chavo brain's sexy star with that chair. We're going
<v Speaker 2>somewhere with Chavo now he's turned heel infinitely more interesting
<v Speaker 2>than face Chavo of course, And the EMTs come out
<v Speaker 2>here with a stretcher and they put Blue Demon on
<v Speaker 2>the stretcher and Chavo sits in the chair and laughs.
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was that, you know, they come out
<v Speaker 1>one stretcher, two amts. There's like a litany of bodies
<v Speaker 1>just sprawled out, like of course they're going to go
<v Speaker 1>to Blue Day Mom. But I was like, okay, like
<v Speaker 1>maybe one of the refs got killed more. Blue Day
<v Speaker 1>Moon's probably used to getting hit with a chair prot
<v Speaker 1>doesn't get stretched out.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I actually really liked that the EMTs went through
<v Speaker 2>all the steps, Like they locked him into the gurney. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>but the neck brace, they put the head stabilizer on,
<v Speaker 2>they forgot to oxygen ate his.
<v Speaker 1>Eyes, which is a big part of that, and that's,
<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously comes part of the story.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they locked him into the gurney here, and Chavo
<v Speaker 2>then goes and attacks him while he's on the gurney.
<v Speaker 1>He's like trying to drag him back into the ring.
<v Speaker 1>That EMTs physically have to hold onto the fucking board
<v Speaker 1>that he's on to keep them from sucking them back
<v Speaker 1>into the ring and kicking his ass. I thought that
<v Speaker 1>was pretty funny, actually, I like that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, reminded me of the big Shug grabbing raymisterio and
<v Speaker 2>smacking them against the turbocle post.
<v Speaker 1>Dude, I mean, like, that's unbelievable. He smacks him against
<v Speaker 1>a turnbocal and drops him in Raylan's with his arms tied,
<v Speaker 1>head wirst on the ground.
<v Speaker 2>Dude. Yeah, bounces too. It's tough.
<v Speaker 1>He should have did, I swear?
<v Speaker 2>I remember maybe it's Mandela effect, but there was something
<v Speaker 2>that happened in some company where like a guy was
<v Speaker 2>on a stretcher and somebody double foot stomped him from
<v Speaker 2>like the top or something. Oh god, Uh, someone somewhere
<v Speaker 2>will remember what I'm talking about, or we just all
<v Speaker 2>have the same Mendela effect.
<v Speaker 1>The one that's coming to mind for me is Jacob
<v Speaker 1>Fatu doing that to somebody on a board in MLW.
<v Speaker 1>He did the like double dash. Was it the moon salt?
<v Speaker 2>Oh maybe it was the moon salt?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the best whatever ship that hasn't happened. I mean
<v Speaker 1>the double stomp I swear happened. I just don't remember who.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe somebody remembers. I just remember seeing that and
<v Speaker 2>just thinking it was maybe I dreamed about it. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>for some reason, my brain does go to low key
<v Speaker 2>too right in the little suit. Yeah yes, yes, but yeah,
<v Speaker 2>maybe somebody knows. But either way, if it hasn't happened,
<v Speaker 2>you should give it a go. I mean, whoever does.
<v Speaker 2>It's got to be a little mean, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I mean you have to mean it has to fall
<v Speaker 1>over at least.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it's got a break or yeah, I mean it's
<v Speaker 2>a dangerous ass spot but damn pretty cool would be sick.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, Chavo beats his ass again. They pull him away,
<v Speaker 2>They take him to the back, They put him in
<v Speaker 2>the ambulance. The ambulance speeds off, music starts playing. Chavo's
<v Speaker 2>in the ring, taking in all the heat.
<v Speaker 1>The crowd channing, uh culero, I think, which I believe
<v Speaker 1>means asshole. Oh okay, yeah, I think that's that one.
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, I didn't know that, all right.
<v Speaker 1>I hear that a lot. When if you fucking every
<v Speaker 1>West Coast pro shows that, yeah, Scott shout, they would
<v Speaker 1>know better than me. But I believe that's what that is.
<v Speaker 1>Now he'll make fun of me if he hears this.
<v Speaker 2>And that is it for Luca Underground, Season one, Episode two.
<v Speaker 2>A lot of stuff happened here on this episode.
<v Speaker 1>You get a lot, dude, and I want to just
<v Speaker 1>to go back just the second here. I actually really
<v Speaker 1>like how they framed the end of the show like
<v Speaker 1>it felt super television right. Like they have the ambulance shot,
<v Speaker 1>they got the music playing, the crowds pissed, Chavo's getting
<v Speaker 1>his heat. They showed the ambulance going away, and the
<v Speaker 1>last thing you see is the wide shot of the
<v Speaker 1>city with the siren in the background, like it's again
<v Speaker 1>it's a Chavo heel turn angle. But I was like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>that like felt really important. This last like two minutes
<v Speaker 1>of this.
<v Speaker 2>I swear to god, there was a Jersey Shore episode
<v Speaker 2>that and just like this, Oh.
<v Speaker 1>My god, probably situation got punched at a bar.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it was that or snooky or something. I just
<v Speaker 2>remember that happening at the end of the episode. Was
<v Speaker 2>the ambulance blow off in the watch.
<v Speaker 1>Shot, dude happened. Yeah, uh but yeah, man, I mean
<v Speaker 1>there's shit's developing, right, you know, Milmore test is here.
<v Speaker 1>That's a big deal and uh yeah, I mean Big
<v Speaker 1>Rick and the boys and you fucking building up. Puma
<v Speaker 1>and Mundo got the sexy star stuff going on. Like
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot going on here. There's I mean, like
<v Speaker 1>it's it's nice to look back at it because a
<v Speaker 1>lot of this I really don't remember, Like there's bits
<v Speaker 1>and pieces I'll be like, oh, yeah, of course that
<v Speaker 1>part was like I know where this goes. But there's
<v Speaker 1>some stuff that I'm like, oh wow, fuck, that's where
<v Speaker 1>that started.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, right, And they picked up on everything really well.
<v Speaker 2>I like that Mundo and Puma picked up the wind
<v Speaker 2>with Big Rick like being pissed off looming because yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it leaves a lot to like wonder like, Okay, well,
<v Speaker 2>what the hell happens now with that? And I assumed
<v Speaker 2>this last for a little bit here in season one
<v Speaker 2>the very least. Uh So, I mean, does Big Rick
<v Speaker 2>he wrestles, right, I'm pretty sure he does? Yeah? So,
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's huge, man Like, Yeah, dude, he looks insane.
<v Speaker 1>He I mean he was. I don't know how much
<v Speaker 1>you remember him, w I mean he was a huge they.
<v Speaker 2>Do, yeah him? And yes, yes, yeah, they were both huge.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so he's still I mean, with.
<v Speaker 2>The little fucking shirt he's got on here, he looks
<v Speaker 2>just insane.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm I'm I don't want to say for sure
<v Speaker 1>because I just don't remember, but I'm fucking fairly positive
<v Speaker 1>he's not just here to be a manager. So yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure he wrestles.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, also, I think one of the cool things
<v Speaker 2>about having him here in Luca Underground is a lot
<v Speaker 2>of people here are smaller, so like he looks in
<v Speaker 2>comparison just even bigger than usual.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, especially fucking next like Puma and Chair
<v Speaker 1>right yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and and Cortez Castro and Cisco. He looks like
<v Speaker 2>a literally.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's the boss. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>And smoking cigar is such like a nice piece. There
<v Speaker 2>is like a cherry on top. Yeah. Just like I said,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he hasn't even touched like anything concerned with
<v Speaker 2>wrestling yet, and I'm like, wow, this is one of
<v Speaker 2>the best wrestling characters they got at.
<v Speaker 1>That's what I can do.
<v Speaker 2>It's important to be able to recognize that, you know,
<v Speaker 2>like it is super important to be able to recognize that.
<v Speaker 2>I'm interested to see if how many episodes it takes
<v Speaker 2>for mill ware Tes to change the pants.
<v Speaker 1>To dude, I'm actually excited. There's so much here to
<v Speaker 1>uh to look forward to. Yeah. Man, like I said,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is the first time I think doing
<v Speaker 1>a back to back kind of a serious thing here
<v Speaker 1>on the pod, just because we're we're just excited to
<v Speaker 1>talk about this stuff and and and everyone else is
<v Speaker 1>you know, all all you listening. Uh, you know, got
<v Speaker 1>a pretty big reaction to us reviewing this, so uh yeah,
<v Speaker 1>let us know what you think. Keep it up and
<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, I mean, uh, let's uh keep it going here. Well,
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