Hour 3 - Dan Orlovsky

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Speaker 2: Hour on this Wednesday, Dan and the danau'ts Dan Patrick Show. I think this might be the best crowd that we've had this week. WHOA, yeah, yeah, cool, yeah, I think so. Pressure is on Thursday and Friday. If you'd like to join us, please do Dan or Lovsky of the mother Ship will join us. Coming up. Stat of the Day is always brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of The Dan Patrick Show. All of our guests this week receive a gift bag courtesy of z Kliner, TCL Penske, Panini, Miller Lite, Dude Wipes, RK Spirits, and Heartland Steak Company. It is a Meet Wednesday, Yes, every day. It's going to be a Meet Friday, and well I can't wait till Meet Friday for Meat Friday. But it's a meat Wednesday and Dylan is cooking up carne asada, Mission Burritos, Porterhouse Steak and also the Jlopano chie Korn who has it better than we do? No lot, PAULI can you do some research? I don't know what a mission burrito is all over it, but we're in the Mission area, So I don't know if it's akin to this area or how they make their burritos. We have a poll question, Seaton. We're gonna stay with the one on the eighteen game schedule.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is a fun one the people right now when you add it to if seventeen games versus eighteen games, people in seventeen games, and then when you put in the sixteenth game, that's at about seventy percent of the vote right now, sixteen games over seventeen or eighteen, and you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it is. It's a lot of quality over quantity. EH seven seven to three DP show operator Tyler's sitting by. We'll try to sneak in a few more phone calls. Spend some time with Steve Kerr in the first hour of the program. And you had a situation last night they the game to the seventy six ers. Steph didn't play. But now all of a sudden, you wonder are they going to be able to pull off a trade here before the trade deadline? On Thursday afternoon, the Cavs and Clippers did complete the trade for James Harden and Darius Garland. You know it could be a win win Clippers get a younger player, and you get James Harden. The East is open. He's averaging twenty five and eight. I'd be curious with Donovan Mitchell thinks about that, but might be just the Hey, I'm a team player. Whoever makes us better. I don't he might make you a better regular season team. We've just seen the postseason and it's usually not pretty for him. But take a shot. You know, with Tatum not there, you don't the Knicks aren't as good as we thought they were going to be. You have in you know, the Detroit Let's see what happens when they start to play big games. But that's a quality team. I just don't know if there's a team where you go you don't want to run into them. We already know that, Okac, you don't want to run into them, But if you're going to trade and Draymond Green was it felt like he was kind of saying goodbye last night, and it was like, hey, if this is it, you know, it's been an incredible thirteen year run and all of those things. I mean, I don't know who's going to pick him up because you have to be willing to pick him up. Put up with him, and then he gives you whatever you're lacking. He can be that tough guy, bad guy, enforcerr. Whatever you know is that somebody the Spurs would take a chance on right now and go, you know what, let that guy protect Wemby and he can give you that playoff experience.

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Speaker 4: No don't no, no, no, no, okay, because if Wenby punches him in the face for doing no, don't put you don't have to put up with that anymore.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, this isn't going to be a Jordan poole with Draymond. You don't know, Well, who else did Draymond punch. He punched one guy. He's not gonna punch Wemby on video, Yeah, you're right on video. Yeah. The fact that I still am amazed when I look at that video where Draymond punches Jordan pull and none of his teammates react. Nobody, nobody went, hey, separate the two. They're like, what do you do? He punched? Okay, uh, give me the ball, continue practice, check ball?

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Speaker 5: Please pick up his teeth?

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Speaker 2: Oh, check Paul's and then check ball. Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 4: And even before that, when they were jawing back and forth, you could just see Steph and the rest of those guys just watching Steve Kurr listening to him.

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Speaker 6: Because that seemed like par for the course.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and also that felt like whoever got punched in the face deserved it, like you know what?

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Speaker 6: Good?

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Speaker 7: Yes, Uh, that's what I was wondering. How much is it you don't want to mess with Raymond? He must have had his reasons or they just didn't like pull and he had it coming to him.

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Speaker 8: So that's why why do we run over there? That's the punch he should have gotten.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they weren't surprised by it. It was like, oh man, you knock him out. Yeah still, John.

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Speaker 6: He got traded. Yeah, I know, I got pushed in the face and I go to the Wizards.

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Speaker 2: I know that sounds like a T shirt. You know, I got punched in the face and traded to the Wizards.

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Speaker 6: You know I got everest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all I know, all I got was this shirt. You know, you know my my parents went to Italy. At all I got was a T shirt or solousy T shirt. Yeah, all right, So to yes, only two things.

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Speaker 9: I think the Draymond thing makes a little sense to San Antonio because back in the day, remember they had like Raja Bell and Bowen and guys that would mix it up on behalf of the star players. That was kind of their their thing back in the day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that team needed that because you had David and you had Tim and they weren't going to be enforcers, but you had guys who were willing to rough you up, like Tony Parker wasn't going to be that way, or Ginobili that you I had Sean Elliott, they had it. There's those. If you had a team that was, you know, the nicest to win championships, the San Antonio Spurs would be probably first on the list. I get that was a nice They were a polite, dominating team. Yes, uh yeah, seton.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't want Draymond being dropped in the middle of that San Antonio team right now. Young group right there, and this dude's gonna come in and blow everything up, and he's not gonna come in humbly and be like, hey, I'm just here to help the team.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I got more rings than my team. Now I'm not. I don't want any part of that. Hell no. But it did feel like he was saying goodbye last night when he met with a media, and I don't know. I mean, I don't know how you package a deal. Is it a three team deal? And Golden State? Now I don't know. Can you trade Jimmy Publock Butler's contract, uh, and Raymond and some draft picks and maybe another in Kaminga and you get Jannis. I'm not good at piecing these together. But when this first came up, that was the team. I said, Golden State can package some picks, some players, maybe Draymond, Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 4: So you want to trade one guy that's injured and out for the year and two guys.

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Speaker 2: That this contract his contract?

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Speaker 4: They don't want the contract either because Jimie Rowlers what thirty six and I want a really expensive contract from a guy that's coming off of acl injury.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, then you're gonna get rid of him.

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Speaker 4: I don't want any part of that, not the contract either, just from the money standpointing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you can get first round draft picks, I don't know what you know. Every time somebody mentions Jonathan Kaminga, he's not playing and he's going to be traded like the last three years. But yeah, you know, you take a shot. You never know. I mean, look, at the Luca trade. You never know until you have that happened a year ago too, Yeah today, well during some week, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And everyone's looking at their phones late night, like.

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Speaker 2: Wait, I still had to look, and I go, okay, wait a minute, who else did they get? Wait? Well you text them late at night.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they're a bottle and a half in a wine and you're like, oh, yeah, it's great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, finally dump this guy. Yeah. Do you think he was drinking when he decided that he was going to make that tray? Hope? I hope? So same the thirty for thirty. Yeah, man, I was hammered. Gotta admit.

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Speaker 3: You caught me, just as Dinners ended a couple of cocktails before bottle of wine at the table.

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Speaker 2: I gotta admit.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, eighty that's it, Yeah, eighty, that's it.

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Speaker 2: Rob Polink is going they want to see this Luca for Anthony David. Is he drinking?

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Speaker 10: I don't know?

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Speaker 2: Do it?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: You know you're watching a text and waiting for the next line, waiting for the dot dot dot?

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Speaker 5: Is he is that it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yes, wait wait there is no dot dot dot do it?

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Speaker 6: Do it?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Bo?

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Speaker 9: Just as importantly, Dan a mission style burrito that you asked about is originated in San Francisco. It's a pretty big burrito, larger than a frisbee. The tortilla, and it's beans and different meats, braised pork, stewed chicken, and it's it's you know, just like the ones we had this morning, rolled in tinfoil to keep its heat as you get it to go or have it to stay carne aesada.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very popular here.

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Speaker 2: And then the Porterhouse steaks and the jalapeno cheesy corn as well.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's like everywhere you go here, it's like Mission something that's like where you're stay in Mission Bay.

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Speaker 2: Where's that right off a Mission and four?

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Speaker 3: And then yeah, we'll just take the Mission tunnel over to Mission Park.

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Speaker 2: This didn't exist ten years ago. They've done an incredible job on this side of the stadium. And thank you again to the San Francisco Giants taking care of us. And I think they're taking us out to dinner tonight. Yeah, I think they're taking us now. I don't know if we're having like ballpark franks or something. I don't know where dinner is. If it's at the ballpark, you know, Hey, yes, uh.

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Speaker 7: I think it's at the concession stand stool set up and then we're just going to kind of have hot.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 9: Yes, Paul, I really do think that Monday show they didn't put on the JumboTron or the overhead lights, and you mentioned it. We mentioned them the other day, and since then Tuesday and Wednesday show they've had the JumboTron rolling and all their lights on to start our show.

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Speaker 5: Very cool of then.

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Speaker 2: Well, I asked the CEO and I said, hey, can you turn on the lights? And I was kind of kidding and he turned on the lights for us, So thank you for that. Dan Orlovsky will join us coming up. Sam Darnold met with the media, and Sam's not going to give you any bulletin board material, but he did say something about the Minnesota Vikings that I thought was interesting where he was talking about Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 11: You know, I've been lucky enough to play with a ton of great quarterbacks or receivers and Justin of course being one of them. He's so talented, and you know, I feel like he taught me a lot about sometimes it's about players, not plays.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes you just got to get that guy the ball.

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Speaker 11: So you know, I was always looking for him if I ever needed I'm on a big third downer in the red zone, and you know, feeling, you know, pretty similar to Jay Asen as well. He's he's a great player who can just find the void in any defense.

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Speaker 2: If Sam Darnold avoids the rush the way he did the questions that he was asked, then he's going to win the super Bowl. Because everybody wants him to say something negative about the Jets, and he refuses to do that. It's just not in his DNA, not at all. And he said, you know when he talked to us, hey, I learned from all of this, and you know, maybe going through that experience, but when you consider, okay, he was the safe pick of that draft, you know, I put that in quotations, the safe pick. But he was going to the Jets, and there's nothing safe about going to the Jets. But then you get kicked to the curb where you know, you're kind of the practice squad in Carolina. Baker Mayfield went through the same thing. I think the best thing that happened to him, and I'll ask Orlovsky this. He went to San Francisco and you're around Kyle Shanahan. Kyle Shanahan's going to make you a better quarterback, guarantee and no pressure. I mean we're seeing that with mac Jones. He's he's gonna be a if they decide to trade him, he'll be a valuable commodity because this stay. You know, when he was in New England, he talked about it. It's like, who's my offensive coordinator? Oh, it's a former defensive coordinator. Uh, come on, genius, can you put something together for me? Yes? Yes, Fritzy and getting the last.

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Speaker 7: Lap is reaching the super Bowl and perhaps holding up the Lombardi Trophy.

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Speaker 8: You know what, what's the big gained by making comments?

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Speaker 7: You stick it to a former team and you get some extra Twitter followers at Oh do hear what Darnold said? It's really silly to even say anything bad about your former team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all you have to do is go scoreboard. That's it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Pauling, And you can look at this as maybe the next trend. Daniel Jones gets rehab assignment and plays really well for a while in Annapolis, Sam Darnold Mac Jones would you rather take a draft pick right now? Or go after Mac Jones for sixty million.

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Speaker 2: If you said that I could have Mac or Ty Simpson, I'm taking Mac Jones, Malik Willis. Malik Willis is a valuable commodity as well, because I don't know how good these other quarterbacks are. I mean, Fernando Mendoza is the best quarterback. But you know there's not many quarterbacks in this draft that you go first round picks Trinidad Chambliss. You know, see no offense to anybody.

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Speaker 3: But I don't really feel like the uh, you know, who would you rather have Ty Simpson or Mac? I don't feel like that's as much of a compliment for Mac Jones.

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Speaker 9: As well, more about the philosophy of the rookie quarterback or the second act quarterback for similar prices.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just looking at it as a compliment. I know that you are.

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Speaker 3: I'm just I didn't really take it that way.

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Speaker 2: Are you? Are You not take making this on behalf of Mac Jones? You're not going to accept what I'm giving you.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Mac Jones should be infinitely more valuable than that, even to even get the comparison.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, okay, all right, Yes, Paul.

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Speaker 9: It is really mostly about money as much as his play. Mac Jones, while he's attractive and he's more of a proven commodity, he's going to cost you some dough if you give him a three year contract and Ty Simpson is on a rookie deal that locks him up four to five years, and that's still attractive for these coaches.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know if he can play. I know Mac Jones can play.

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Speaker 5: The contract's more attractive than him.

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Speaker 2: I mean Zack Wilson, I didn't know if he could play. I want somebody who's done it, like I've at least seen something like Malik Willis. I don't think they miss anything. When the Packers had him playing, he looked really good. Is that?

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Speaker 3: Who would rather have Sam Donald or Zach Wilson? You know I'm gonna take Sam Donald?

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Speaker 2: Okay, of course? Are there you go? How about mac Jones, Mac Jones and Malik Willis.

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Speaker 5: Ooh, that's a real debate.

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Speaker 2: How about that one, mac Jones, I'll take it to maxin all day, Paul. Were you taking Malik Williams? Uh?

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Speaker 5: Maybe? Yeah, I'm going with Malik Willis, Okay, Marvin.

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Speaker 4: And also, I don't think we should put Mac Jones and Sam Darnold in the same category as far as their first teams, because I thought Mac Jones got did dirty. Oh yeah, dirty like Matt Patricia with his pencil in his ear for laminated place place she get out of here.

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Speaker 6: They did him so wrong.

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Speaker 2: And they won what ten games? They were playoff team and then did they kept changing coordinators.

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Speaker 3: I mean, who better to call offensive plays than a guy who knows a defense that well.

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Speaker 5: I know what they're thinking.

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Speaker 9: Matt Jones rookie year, he had twenty two, twenty two touchdowns, only thirteen picks.

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Speaker 5: Well, no, that's not bad.

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Speaker 2: It's not bad pro bowler. He wasn't Pro Bowl back when they were real pro bowler in the day. Yeah, somebody in my family who doesn't cover football, they don't watch football very much, and they go, I don't understand that. There's all these guys who were Pro bowlers, And I go, what do you mean? And they thought it was bowling, actual bowling, And I go, so this guy, he's a football player and a pro bowler, And I go, no, it's called the Pro Bowl like the Super Bowl. Then they have a Pro Bowl. And so they were under the impression. It was Pro bowlers, Yes, Tom.

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Speaker 8: Although Jerome bettis was very good. Jerome bett exception too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Mookie Betts he's a really good bowlers.

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Speaker 8: So, Dan, what do you have to have about a one seventy five bowling?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: What do you need?

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Speaker 5: You gotta get at.

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Speaker 8: Least a two hundred to make the Pro Bowlers.

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Speaker 2: Your highest game bowling was what.

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Speaker 8: I think it was like one four or something.

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Speaker 2: Satan, I think I'm a one ninety nine. Oh, okay, yeah, I could.

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Speaker 5: I could roll him maybe like one sixty one.

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Speaker 6: Marvin seventy seven?

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Speaker 2: No, oh, you couldn't find a ball for your hands? A t ball that tav he's walking away. How about we take a break here, Marvin, right, you have the fun. I like the bumpers. Let's take a break here. Dan or Lobsky of the Mothership will join us. We're back after this Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 2: It's official. This crowd is the best crowd we've had this week. Beautiful weather, Sun's coming up here with the ballpark and this is going to be a Although I said, check the weather, Paul, do we have rain in the forecast on Super Bowl Sunday.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't look like it.

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Speaker 9: It's going to be I would say high fifties and overcast with only a fifteen percent chance of humidity and rain.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, dan Or Lobsky of the Mothership. You can see him on NFL Live every weekday at four eastern and former NFL and course a legend at the University of Connecticut, where he lied about his forty yard dash time when he was in high school and he ran like a thirty eight yard forty yard dash and had a better time. But I love the ingenuity here. Let's make way for dan Or lunch kid. Hi, buddy, how you doing. He's I like to calling the standing the standing?

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Speaker 14: Oh yeah, I'm never gonna I'm never gonna like let some of the things of my past go. Huh.

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Speaker 10: That's that story. The end zone.

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Speaker 2: No, that's that One's great. I don't like bringing up the end zone because that's easy to make fun.

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Speaker 10: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, But if you want to retell that story, you can. Dan.

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Speaker 10: This is the forty story, the forty yard dash story.

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Speaker 2: No, No, the end zone one. I'm kidding. Okay, that's not sure serious, go no, because the forty yard dash showed ingenuity.

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Speaker 10: I had no other choice.

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Speaker 14: I realized I was such an unathletic person that if I wanted to go to college, I was going to have to.

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Speaker 10: Cause that was back in the day.

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Speaker 14: If you didn't cross a barrier in the forty yard or they were like just going to push you aside. And so I knew that if I didn't get the forty yard number, at least in their eye, to the bare minimum, that I wasn't going to go to at least the college that I certainly wanted to are the level. So I just kicked a cone forward and went from there, and somehow I stumbled into college football.

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Speaker 2: And what was your time?

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Speaker 10: When I ran the forty that day? It was four to eight. Realistically it was like five eight.

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Speaker 14: I was telling I was telling Marcus So Marcus Spears, we were yesterday just I don't know what the story was.

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Speaker 10: The genesis of it. We were talking about.

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Speaker 14: It was me, Marcus, Ryan Clark, Kelsey were sitting there and we were talking about just how being on the field for the Pro Bowl, everybody's like six', four two hundred and ten plus in a freakazoid. Athlete and we were telling the stories back in the day Of Walter. Camp, obviously you know The Walter Camp All American. Team there's An All american team and Then Walter, camp since it originated In, connecticut always picks a.

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Speaker 10: Player of The year From.

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Speaker 14: Connecticut and So marcus AND i came out of school the same. Year So marcus is telling the story of, Man i'm In connecticut And i'm at This Walter Camp award And i'm there with like, Me Larry, Johnson Larry, fitzgerald all these stars back in the. Day And he's, LIKE i watched this dude walk in AND i go To Larry. Johnson i'm, like who is? That And Larry johnson's, LIKE i don't. Know and someone leans. Over he's, like That's dan R rolovski And larry, GOES i have never heard of that. Person And marcus looks at, me and it looks At larry and he, Goes i'm a play in THE nfl for twenty. Years and So marcus was like telling the story of my, speech and in my, SPEECH i was, like, Listen i'm a kid From, Shelton. CONNECTICUT i ran sick two in the forty my junior year of high. SCHOOL i was one hundred and sixty five pounds twenty one inch vertical And marcus spits out in his drink and he was, like your vertical is twenty one.

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Speaker 10: INCHES i, said, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah so damn, it you fooled. Him.

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Speaker 14: Yeah now my kids are fourteen and one of them is just like. Me And i'm just sitting there and he looks at. Me he's like five foot, five maybe ninety, pounds he's got no muscle on. Him he can, throw and he looks And i'm, like, DUDE i don't know what to tell.

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Speaker 2: You, Man, sorry do you want your kids to play?

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Speaker 14: Quarterback the only one of my kids THAT i truly in my gut think could play quarterback is my. Daughter my daughter's the one who's like the crazy gifted. Athlete she's and she's got the right, mentality and she can throw it from here to the baseball. Park my, boys one boy can, throw BUT i don't think he's got the right. Mentality but they both they both play. Football BUT I I i have no desire for right now for them to be the.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback it's kind of crushing correct THAT i would go and watch my son play. Baseball he, tried BUT i would stand in the outfield because you, know they, think, oh, man you know your son must be really good at. Baseball he, wasn't and it's and it's you can't help. Him there's only so much you can.

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Speaker 10: DO i mean at the end of the.

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Speaker 2: Day but it's crushing and you'd be out there and it'd be last, inning winning run at. Third my son would come to the, plate please, Walk just hit, him get hit by a head, Anything, god, Yeah, God. Okay So Dan orlovsky joining us on loan for The. Mothership when you see Ghost we just HAD rg three on and he said he never saw. GHOSTS i don't know if quarterbacks everybody is going to say they never saw. Them But Sam darnold did admit that he saw Ghost what does that mean to? You and why would he admit to.

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Speaker 14: THAT i think the admission is just his. REALITY i think he's comfortable and who he is and. Whatnot so even back, THEN i still believe That sam had a great comfort in his. SKIN i think seeing ghosts is when you start to chase things that aren't. There you, know from you, start when you're a quarterback and you get the play the play call in your. Helmet the things that come into your, mind the thoughts that happened are in the. Hundreds what's the, play where's this person, aligned what, motion what? Shift what's the down and? Distance how much time is on the, clock what's the? Situation who are they? Defensively what are they? In is this a blitz? Situation is that person the? Blitzer what's their? Coverage so you have this trail of thoughts that start to go into your, mind and you can start to chase things that aren't necessarily. There you have to Imagine, dan like you spend six days getting ready for a, game, right so you're just ingesting this information of game, plan your game, plan their game, plan your tape, study their tape, study and so you have This it's not one or two things that go into the. Thoughts it's this run on sentence of hundreds of nuggets of. Information and then you can see one snap and the defense does one, thing and then you can see a snap or about to be a snap and it looks the. Same but then you might think that another thing is gonna happen when it, doesn't and so then it's just this rat. Race this if you imagine the rat on the, wheel it's just this wheel of information that starts going through your head and you start to chase things that aren't necessarily. THERE i remember doing the breakdown honestly after that. Morning it was one of my first times on get up AND i still to this day am adamant that that wasn't a same darnold. THING i think a lot of quarterbacks would have done that Because New england showed the same thing all the time and brought something, different and so a lot of QUARTERBACKS i think we're gonna struggle with. That certainly young. Kids the first time you're ever experiencing you, LIKE i have no idea what's going, on and SO i think once.

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Speaker 2: The but Here's Drake mayn his second. Year But drake.

00:26:09
Speaker 14: Hasn't really seen stuff like that on a consistent. Basis and also you have to Remember josh McDaniel's twenty four postseason. GAMES i think he's been in THE nfl for twenty plus. Years the way That josh cuts out the fat on plays for him By, Okay i'll take a running back and motion them out. There, Hey, drake if there's a linebacker out, there you know it's. Man if there's not a linebacker out, there you know its.

00:26:36
Speaker 10: Zone all. Right i've just taken out fifty percent.

00:26:38
Speaker 14: Of the THINGS i have to think about motion they're running back In, hey if the guy comes with, them you know it's probably not a. Blitz if the guy doesn't go back with, them you know that it's probably going to be a. Blitz, okay, again cut off all the information that you have to think about Where sam didn't have that.

00:26:53
Speaker 2: Experience but if you look at offensive, minds IF i said you could learn Under josh, McDaniels uh, McVeigh.

00:27:02
Speaker 14: Mcanahan McVay Or Shannan, oh not even. CLOSE i mean, This josh McDaniels is one of the, best no. Question but McVeigh And SHANAHAN i think HAVE i ever told you the golf story the first day THAT i was With sean And jared so One i've played Under. KYLE i was With kyle in like twenty ten and maybe two thousand and nine twenty ten In houston when he was quarterback coach offensive. Coordinator Gary kubiak was the head, coach and Just kyle and his ability to install and the way that he talked about. Football kyle was his install. Meetings it was like speed. DATING i mean he would take ten seconds to install, play throw the paper on the, ground install, play throw the paper on the, ground install play. THRILL i mean the way that he forced you to pay attention with his urgency was, different and just you could see the way that he talked about football from a defensive.

00:27:58
Speaker 10: Perspective he understood.

00:27:59
Speaker 14: It But sean McVeigh in two thousand and, seventeen it's the spring of twenty. SEVENTEEN i had just gotten done In. DETROIT i was In philly with my. Wife we were down in the city with our, family AND i had known McVeigh a little bit just in. Postgames sean called me and he, Said, HEY i got these young Kid. Jared jared go was going into a second. Season he's, LIKE i need you to come out.

00:28:22
Speaker 10: Here just be a. Coach you'll be our third.

00:28:24
Speaker 14: Quarterback you're not gonna take a single snap in the post or the. Preseason you'll be our third QUARTER i just need you to teach him. Football he doesn't have a great understanding of. Football so all, Right SO i go out there for training camp AND i remember it's the very first. Meeting we're sitting in the front. Row it's the situation see in between me And. Jared it's the first team. Meeting of training.

00:28:43
Speaker 10: Camp hand To. God three minutes into the, MEETING i lean, OVER.

00:28:46
Speaker 14: I Tapped jared on the, knees AND i, Said you're gonna be, fine. Dude You you could just Tell sean had a great understanding the way he could, communicate he understood, football his leadership, skills the way that he could control the room with his. Voice so just being around those two, guys not only their football, perspective but just.

00:29:07
Speaker 10: Their ability to. Communicate one of those two guys would be my clear.

00:29:12
Speaker 2: Favorite Tom, brady who has had a rapid rise in improving as an. ANALYST i think he got rid of the. CLUTTER i think he's doing what he did as a, quarterback get rid of the clutter and just talk. Football but he said something ABOUT jsn where he set his shoulder pads never like they don't, change, Correct so what's that due to what defensive bat.

00:29:37
Speaker 10: Everything looks the.

00:29:37
Speaker 14: Same it's Very Tory holt back in the day was the great at. This Marvin harrison as. Well where you know when defensive backs study, receivers there's. Tails there's always tells in, football no matter if it's a big picture scheme thing or an individual scheme. Thing remember the Movie, invincible when he's, like, hey white knuckles the. Rusher there's always those. Tails there's always those individual tells as, players and so as a receiver your. Alignment are you closer to the offensive tackle or the tight? End why are you moving down because you're trying to create space or are you further away because you're trying to go attack the middle of the.

00:30:17
Speaker 10: Field and then there's route tells where, hey if this.

00:30:19
Speaker 14: Guy comes off the line of scrimmage and he's standing, up he's probably going to be stopping on his route sometime. Soon if he's got his shoulders, down that he's probably trying to accelerate vertical and maybe going. Deeper and so these GUYS i have all these. Tails and When jasn, has everything look the. SAME i mean we're across the street from the baseball, park, right and so when these, pitchers everything looks the same from a where's my, glove where's my wind? Up where's the ball coming out of the every so now you have such a smaller time frame to figure out what the pitch. Is it's like that With jaysn when he comes off the line and everything looks the same from his, stride his tempah his shoulders as a defensive. Back now you're guessing the four or five different routes that he could, run six different routes he could, run rather.

00:31:08
Speaker 10: Than he could only do one of two.

00:31:10
Speaker 14: Things and as a great defensive, back then you could take away one of those.

00:31:13
Speaker 10: Things, So, roddy that's a.

00:31:15
Speaker 2: Strength Rodney harrison was kind of auditioning to be On Football night In america and he was talking about because we wanted to, know, like what do you? See what are you looking? For he, said all, right, well look at this play With Tony. Gonzalez he, said you see where he's lined. Up and then he, said look at this other. Play you see where he's lined. Up, now it looked like the same exact. Formation he, says he's about three inches, wider he's going out for a. Pass.

00:31:42
Speaker 14: Correct just little things like there's always a tell, yeah if you put in the time to study. It and that's where we talk about the conversation of watching film versus studying. Film and that's why you see a lot of young quarterbacks it just takes time to. Develop is as a young, quarterback you more often than not you watch.

00:32:04
Speaker 10: Film they're playing cover, Three, okay.

00:32:07
Speaker 14: Now then you as you develop and evolve and be around and repetition your studying. Tape all, right they're in cover, Three but where's the weakness of the cover?

00:32:16
Speaker 10: Three or who is the weakness of the cover? Three or how DO i know.

00:32:19
Speaker 14: That they're not gonna be In cover three and they're gonna go to A cover two or A cover. One that guy's outside, shoulder he's inside, shoulder his inside foot is up rather than his outside foot is.

00:32:28
Speaker 10: Up it's there's always. Tails the more.

00:32:30
Speaker 2: You, study how did The patriots? Win great?

00:32:34
Speaker 14: QUESTION i Think number, one they have to be phenomenal on early down on the interior of their offensive. Line everyone talks About seattle's defense and talks about their, front their defensive, front and they only correlate it to third. Down and it's great on third, Down but if you don't Handle murphy And Leonard williams early, downs you you can't have success against this. Defense and it's not just in the past. Game you have to hit him on some quick hitting runs early downs to.

00:33:03
Speaker 10: Try to get those two to play.

00:33:04
Speaker 14: SLOWER i think the second thing is you gotta handle the edges of their pass rush on third.

00:33:09
Speaker 10: Downs that's gonna be.

00:33:11
Speaker 14: HUGE i Think STEP's got to have the biggest game of the postseason for, him not even. Close if you were going to ask me the one person on their offense In New, england it has to have a big. Game It's STEPH nicki min worry is going to Play. Nickel who's that interior pass game defender For.

00:33:27
Speaker 10: Seattle he's. Phenomenal he's gonna be defensive ricidier in my.

00:33:30
Speaker 14: Opinion he's six foot, three two hundred and thirty. Pounds, wait they already gave it to the guy In. Cleveland that's already been. ANNOUNCED i thought they. DID i thought It's Tomorrow Night. Honors, no, oh maybe he's a. Finalist he's a final. Swuaestionnger, yeah he's he should be a. Finalist, okay, okay BUT i believe it's announced. Tomrow oh, okay.

00:33:50
Speaker 10: Alright for a, SECOND i was, like Oh, god that's gonna go.

00:33:53
Speaker 2: Viral, No, no you only go viral when you fawn all over these.

00:33:58
Speaker 14: QUARTERBACKS i don't understand what why do people want everybody to just say quarterbacks?

00:34:04
Speaker 2: Suck you, know this quarterback. Sucks it's, like oh my, god do you have do you fall in love a little too. Soon with, QUARTERBACKS.

00:34:16
Speaker 14: I always GO i always think THAT i go from the mindset of understanding how hard it is to play that, position and there's so many good players that Aren't.

00:34:26
Speaker 2: Patrick but if you were sending Out Valentine's day, CARDS i probably give.

00:34:30
Speaker 10: Them to eighteen to twenty.

00:34:34
Speaker 6: At a.

00:34:34
Speaker 10: Minimum, okay atam. Minimum all.

00:34:36
Speaker 14: RIGHT i don't, Know LIKE i always, Say, DANIEL i Think i've said, this And i'm, like this is just my. REALITY i think it would be so dumb and disrespectful and ignorant of, me who is a backup ninety nine percent of my, career to just go on the probably the BIGGEST i guess on a day to day basis network and she's, like this quarterback. Sucks you wouldn't have any, respect you know. It that would Be how COULD i then go into A monday night football meeting and sit with that quarterback and be, like, so what's your game?

00:35:10
Speaker 10: Plan he'd be, Like you're an. IDIOT i don't have any respect for.

00:35:12
Speaker 14: You, so, yes there's there's a part of me that probably has a little bit of a find the positive, Perspective BUT i do think it comes from a level of just appreciation and.

00:35:22
Speaker 10: Respect good to see, You great to see.

00:35:25
Speaker 2: You thank you for stopping. By thank you once. Again he cheated on his forty yard.

00:35:30
Speaker 14: Dash the only TIME i ever have a big desire to cheat is in competitive.

00:35:36
Speaker 10: Moments so golf course is very dangerous for. Me i've i've. Wait you can't.

00:35:42
Speaker 14: CHEAT i always have an internal desire. To BUT i Have i've. Learned over, there you want to admit. Something, no, no, No I'VE i, Have I've i've. Learned the competitive environments are.

00:35:53
Speaker 2: Tough of the mother. Shoe you're you're squirming over. There it feels like maybe you cheated a little VENT i have.

00:36:00
Speaker 10: In the many years, ago many years, ago many years.

00:36:04
Speaker 2: Ago you can see him ON Nfl live every weekday at Four eastern ON. Espn we'll take a, break we'll close up shop after.

00:36:11
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00:36:23
Speaker 2: Live let's take a guess the current get in price per ticket including fees for The Super. Bowl, Todd i'll start with. You this is get in price single ticket including fees.

00:36:39
Speaker 8: Two eight hundred and twelve, Dollars.

00:36:41
Speaker 2: Seaton four hundred and ninety nine, Dollars.

00:36:45
Speaker 9: Paul thirty three hundred, Dollars marvin six thousand, dollars four, thousand seven hundred and seventy five.

00:36:54
Speaker 2: Dollars that is the current get in price per, ticket including. Fees of course that's in. Excessive, yes, yes it's never for the. Fans. Never, now that's the, well one of the PROBLEMS i have with, this, it's you, know it's just priced too high for the casual, fan the everyday fan who went to all these games can't. Afford.

00:37:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah it's almost, like you, know the, owners it's a privilege THAT i give, you that you could pay me this much to go to the, game rather than the owners have the privilege of owning the.

00:37:27
Speaker 2: Team, yeah and it's the psychology there is a little.

00:37:30
Speaker 9: Reversed, Yes, PAUL i think this is gonna be the smallest Super bowl in, capacity the least amount of seats at this Super bowl compared to any in the past Twenty.

00:37:39
Speaker 2: Why is it just the stadium as.

00:37:41
Speaker 9: Smaller it's the stadium is smaller and since the last time it was, here they made adjustments so there was actually fewer seats available this time compared to a decade.

00:37:48
Speaker 2: Ago Bo jackson is joining, US i think on the program. Tomorrow yeah that's. Awesome, yeah it's pretty. Serious, Yeah i'm gonna say he'll be the best athlete who will join us this. Week What, YEAH i would think.

00:38:02
Speaker 14: So.

00:38:03
Speaker 2: YEAH i played golf With bo years ago And jim, McMahon And jim plays. Barefoot he had his caddie go get him a twelve pack of beer and he put ice in his. Bag this poor caddy's carrying. Around we've got the clubs in and he's got a bag full of ice and. Beers And Bo bo would get so frustrated because he thought That I'm Bo, JACKSON i can hit it four hundred. Yards and he putted one, handed AND i didn't say. ANYTHING i didn't want, to you, know get him upset by like why are you putting one? Handed but it Was Bo, Jackson SO i was, like SO i started putting one, Handed i'm, LIKE i don't do. It Andrew locke is going to join.

00:38:44
Speaker 10: Us it's like a home.

00:38:45
Speaker 9: Game Then i'm gonna drive the kids to school and then stop.

00:38:49
Speaker 5: By got a fulld ay, ahead old.

00:38:52
Speaker 2: Day kathy In. California good, Morning. Kathy what's on your? Mind Morning?

00:38:57
Speaker 13: Dan this Is kathy In california And i'm a second time, caller but calling today BECAUSE i like to share a little piece of trivia THAT i think is. Important time a, year my husband AND i Attended Super bowl one. Together that's a big. Deal it wasn't Called Super bowl, one remember what it.

00:39:18
Speaker 2: Was it was LIKE AFL nfl.

00:39:21
Speaker 13: Championship you are, right of course you would be, right all? Right And i'll tell you tickets for not four, thousand seven hundred and seventy five.

00:39:30
Speaker 14: Dollars do you.

00:39:32
Speaker 2: Have your tickets Stub. Kathy, No i'm so.

00:39:35
Speaker 13: SAD i don't have my ticket. Set BUT i do remember the game because The Green Bay packers can't See. Chiefs Green Bay packers. WON i don't remember the, score BUT i you know WHAT i was. SEVENTEEN i don't know.

00:39:50
Speaker 14: THAT i was.

00:39:50
Speaker 2: That that's, Okay, kathy thank you for. Sharing what was the score of that? GAME pauli thirty five to?

00:39:58
Speaker 11: Ten.

00:39:58
Speaker 2: Okay on this date in nineteen sixty, nine The raiders Introduced John madden as their head. Coach the impact that he had is there somebody who had a bigger impact on THE nfl Than John.

00:40:13
Speaker 9: Madden, Yeah pauli, coaching announcing and video. Games, yes, WOW.

00:40:20
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's if somebody has had a bigger. Impact should we do this?

00:40:24
Speaker 5: Tomorrow yeah we. Can that's a.

00:40:26
Speaker 2: Biggie let's. See let's go any other this days in supports history.

00:40:32
Speaker 9: Poll we First Winter olympics opened in nineteen twenty four In.

00:40:35
Speaker 5: France and that is?

00:40:39
Speaker 14: It?

00:40:39
Speaker 2: Okay final results of the poll, Question, Seaton, yeah we got up.

00:40:44
Speaker 3: There how many games should be played in THE nfl season right? Now sixteen seventeen or eighteen sixteen has sixty seven percent of the, vote followed by eighteen seventeen games is in? Less, Wow and we'll pass that information onto the Commission we're going to get that right to his office. TODAY i could just imagine somebody's taken in the information of the.

00:41:07
Speaker 2: Commissioner, yeah what's this from The Dan patrick? Show? Oh you mean the show THAT i don't go. On, Yeah twitter polls said sixteen, guy what's reverse? Course?

00:41:17
Speaker 3: Uh?

00:41:17
Speaker 2: Todd would you learn?

00:41:18
Speaker 7: TODAY rg three feels with that roster The seahawks are ready to get their bike back from The.

00:41:22
Speaker 2: Patriots, seaton would you learn, TODAY rg three great, guest four. Daughters by the, way how about, That, paul would you?

00:41:30
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00:41:33
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