Wall Street Braces for Jobs Report, Buffett Sells More BofA

Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:10.160 Good morning. 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:13.039 I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:14.520 stories we're following today. 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.120 Karen, it is the big report Wall Street's been waiting 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:21.279 for all week, the August Jobs report. Economists are looking 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:24.040 for a gain of one hundred and sixty five thousand jobs, 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:27.040 with the unemployment rate ticking down a tenth to four 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:31.280 point two percent. We get a preview from Bloomberg's Michael McKee. 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:33.960 And now the main event. August Jobs is the biggest 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:36.760 data point ahead of a data dependent fed's next meeting, 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:40.120 at which they're expected to begin lowering the nation's benchmark 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:43.760 interest rate. How much they cut will depend on today's numbers, 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:48.040 or so. Wall Street thinks week job creation and or 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.680 a rise in the unemployment rate will pressure them to 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.760 lower the rate range by half a percentage point. The 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:56.600 opposite makes the case for just a quarter point reduction. 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:00.400 Something else to watch, average weekly hours. If the economy 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.360 is indeed slowing a lot, companies may cut back on 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:08.600 ours work for now rather than employees. Michael McKee, Bloomberg Radio. 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.560 All right, Mike, thank you, wil Chicago FED President Austin 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:15.959 Golesby sees mounting warning signs from the labor market. Speaking 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.800 to Dow Jones market Watch, Golesby said it's pretty clear 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.319 that the path is not just rate cuts soon, but 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:24.800 multiple cuts over the next twelve months. That sentiment was 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:28.319 echoed by billionaire investor John Paulson, who told Bloomberg Shanali 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:31.720 Bosik that the FED waited too long to ease. 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:35.520 Inflation Now is somewhere around three percent. Interest rates are 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.840 five percent, so real interest rates are too hot. So 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.040 the FED I think, waited too long to bring interest 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.800 rates down. So I think the likely course of action 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.960 is going forward is the FED will start to cut 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:48.720 interest rates. 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:50.920 What should they be by the end of twenty twenty five. 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.080 It's difficult to predict, but my best guesstimate would be 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.800 around three percent, perhaps two and a half percent. 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.960 John Paulson is known for making a massive bed against 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:03.080 the mortgage bonds before the two thousand and eight financial crisis. 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:06.200 He's been among those talked about as a potential Treasury 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:09.600 secretary if Donald Trump wins the presidency, and Karen. 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.040 John Paulson was among those in the audience as former 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.720 President Trump delivered a speech to Wall Street's elite at 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.799 the Economic Club of New York. The centerpiece of his 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:21.200 address was a promise for a big corporate tax cut. 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.679 My plan calls for expanded R and D tax credits, 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:31.520 one hundred percent bonus appreciation expensing for new manufacturing investments, 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.720 and a reduction in the corporate tax rate from twenty 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:40.520 one percent to fifteen percent solely for companies that make 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:42.000 their product in America. 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:45.160 And that call four of fifteen percent corporate tax would 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.120 be a big drop from the twenty one percent in 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:51.160 Trump's own twenty seventeen tax law. The former president also 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:53.720 made a pitch for Elon Musk to take a role 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:54.639 in his administration. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.800 I will create a Government Efficiency Commission task with conducting 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:03.160 a complete financial and performance audit of the entire federal 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:07.840 government and making recommendations for drastic reforms. Need to do it, 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:12.120 and Elon, because he's not very busy, has agreed to 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:13.720 head that task force. 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.320 Former President Trump's speech to the Economic Club comes as 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.919 the latest Bloomberg News Morning Consult poll shows Trump's tax 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:24.959 ideas resonating with swing state voters. Forty six percent say 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.079 they trust Trump more on taxes, compared to forty four 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:30.600 percent for Vice President Kamala Harris. 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:32.560 Well, Nathan and Update Now on a pair of back 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.840 to back legal hearings involving the former president and Bloomberg's 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:37.160 Amy Morris reports. 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:40.320 Today's hearing is before the Second US Circuit Court of Appeals, 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.880 which will hear arguments in Trump's appeal of a jury's 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.640 verdict last year that ordered him to pay five million 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:49.080 dollars to writer Aging Carroll after finding him liable for 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:53.040 sexually assaulting and defaming her. Yesterday's hearing was over whether 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:56.960 the former president can be prosecuted for election interference after 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:00.840 the Supreme Court indicated that presidents have some immunity. Special 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:04.640 counsel Jacksmith's office has until September twenty sixth to file 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.720 an opening brief on that issue. Trump's lawyers have to 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:12.200 respond by October seventeenth. In Washington, Amy Morris Bloomberg Radio. 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:12.720 Thank you, Amy. 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.840 President Biden's son Hunter is avoiding another federal trial with 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:19.240 a surprise move. He has pleaded guilty to tax charges 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:23.600 hours before jury selection was supposed to begin in Los Angeles. 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:25.520 Abby Lowell is hunter Biden's lawyer. 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:29.640 Like millions of Americans, Hunter was late in filing and 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:34.560 paying his taxes. Unlike those millions of Americans, he was 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:38.920 charged criminally for his failures that occurred during the depths 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.560 of his addiction to drugs and outcome. 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:45.720 Abby Lowell says Hunter Biden wanted to spare his family 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.159 the pain of another trial after he was convicted on 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.800 federal gun charges in Delaware earlier this year. Biden now 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.719 faces up to seventeen years in prison on the tax 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.640 charges when he sentenced in December. Federal sentencing guidelines mean 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.200 he will probably face much less time than that. 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.599 Well, Nathan. The money keeps pouring in for Kamala Harris. 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:07.600 She raised three hundred and sixty one million dollars in August. 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.679 That's almost three times more than Trump did last month. 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:14.160 Harris has now raised six hundred and fifteen million since 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.880 President Joe Biden announced he would stand aside on July 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.760 twenty first. The flood of money for Harris highlights hower 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:23.920 candidacy has galvanized Democrats, fueling a surge in pulling numbers 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:25.440 and in fundraising. 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.520 Turned back to markets now Karen Warren Buffett continues to 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:32.800 unload shares of Bank of America. Bloomberg's John Tucker is 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.320 here with the details. Good morning, John, Do we know 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:36.920 why Buffett is selling? 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:40.800 Simply put no, Nathan A. Buffett has offered no public 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.880 explanation for his decision to pull back. In the latest 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:47.880 round of these transactions, Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway liquidate at seven 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.640 hundred and sixty million dollars of the stock since Tuesday, 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.919 So this extends his sales at Bank of America since 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:57.640 mid July. The selling means he's reaped about six point 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:03.440 nine seven billion dollars. This was all disclosed in regulatory filing. Now, 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:06.120 if Berkshire keeps selling at stake in the second largest 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:09.000 US bank could soon slide below ten percent, that's the 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.840 threshold for quick disclosures. Once he controls less than that, 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:15.800 the transactions become a little murky. The ninety four year 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:19.320 old began building Berkshire's investment in Bank of America with 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.880 a five billion dollar deal way back in twenty and eleven. 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.279 Know you are coming, John Tucker, Bloomberg. 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.640 Radio, All right, John, thank you well. Shares a broadcom 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.320 er down about ten percent in early trading that ship 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.120 supplier for Apple and other big tech companies, delivering a 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.440 disappointing sales forecast it was hurt by the portion of 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:43.160 its business that is not tied to artificial intelligence. It 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:44.359 is time now for a look at some of the 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:46.799 other stories making news in New York and around the world, 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.599 and for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. Michael, 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:51.080 good Morning, Good morning, Karen. 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:53.920 The fourteen year old boy accused of fatally shooting four 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:57.040 people at a Georgia high school is expected to make 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:01.320 his first court appearance today. Colt Gray has been charged 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.440 as an adult with four counts of murder. Authority said 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:08.039 the teen opened fire at Appalachi High School in winder 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:12.239 just outside Atlanta, killing two students and two teachers. Nine 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:16.760 others were wounded. Meanwhile, his father, Colin Gray, was also 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:20.600 arrested for allowing his son to possess a weapon. Georgia 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:22.720 Bureau of Investigation director Chris. 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:28.240 Hosey Colin is Colt Gray's father that was arrested yesterday. 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:33.200 He is charged with a following four counts of involuntary manslaughter, 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:37.960 two counts of second degree murder, and eight counts of 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:39.160 cruelty to children. 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:43.480 GBI director Chris Hosey says Colin Gray, who is fifty 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:47.040 four knowingly allowed his son, Colt to possess a weapon. 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:50.800 The FBI says they received tips last year about possible 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:54.760 threats posted to social media by the teenager, but authority 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:58.080 said Colt Gray denied ever making the post, and no 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:02.480 arrests were made lacking probable cause. Secretary of State Antony B. 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.320 Lincoln said he expects the US and other mediators to 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:09.400 present a new proposal for a hostage exchange and ceasefire 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:13.120 between Israel and Amas in the coming days. Secretary Blincoln 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:16.840 said every day without an agreement makes the ceasefire and 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:18.960 hostage release harder to reach. 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.600 Close as I believe we are to getting a ceasefire agreement. 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:24.480 Every day that. 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:28.400 Goes by where it is not finalized and the parties 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:32.000 don't say yes period is a day in which something 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:36.000 else happens and there is an intervening event which simply 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:37.600 pushes things off. 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:41.920 Secretary Blincoln made his comments while in Haiti. Blincoln also 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:45.640 announced another forty five million dollars in USA to Haiti. 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:50.480 Sweeping federal raids targeted several top mayoral aids and officials 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.640 In New York City. Federal authorities issued su poenas and 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:57.520 sees new York City Police Commissioner Edward Caban's cell phone. 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.800 The Mayor's Chief Council says there is there's no indication 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.360 Mayor Adams is the target of any investigation. For months, 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.640 the FEDS have been investigating whether Adams and his twenty 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.679 twenty one campaign took a legal foreign money, but according 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:14.480 to ABC, this investigation is different. Global News twenty four 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:16.640 hours a day, whenever you want it with Bloomberg News Now. 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:19.080 I'm Michael Barr. This is Bloomberg Cameron. 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:26.440 Sorry, Michael Barr, thank you time now for the Bloomberg 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:29.680 Sports Update, and we welcome back John stash Hour, John, Good. 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:30.680 Morning, Good morning, Karen. 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.079 Hecky be a way to start a season. 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:36.000 Rematch of last year's AS Championship game, quarterbacks with multiple 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:40.160 MVPs and the game literally not decided until the final play. 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.480 The Ravens and Chiefs both scored on their first possessions 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:45.360 of the season. Kansas City went up by ten. Baltimore 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.760 was down seven when it took over and its own 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.040 thirteen yard line out of two minutes left, the Ravens drove. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.320 It appeared that Lamar Jackson had hooked up with Isaiah 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.959 Likely on a touchdown, but was zero's on the clock. 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:59.440 Replay determined likely had his toe out of bounds. The 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.439 Chiefs won twenty seven to twenty. Patrick Mahomes twenty of 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.959 twenty eight rookie Xavier Worthy two Casey touchdowns, wanted to 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.640 catch the other on a run. Jackson in defeat ran 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.320 for a game high hundred and twenty two yards come back. 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.760 At the US Open, Jessica Pagoula shrounced in the first 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.760 set by Carolina Macoba six to one. She came back 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:19.920 won the next two sixty four six ' two. 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.679 Looking a little rough there for a while, but somehow 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.000 I've found away and was actually able to play some 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:29.240 really good tennis and keep that momentum, you know, a 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.120 lot through that third set and close it out. But yeah, 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.160 I thought in the third we had some really good 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:37.040 tennis under the second and third. But yeah, happy just 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:38.360 with the way I was able to compete. 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.000 So Pagoula, who was in her first Grand Slam semi 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.319 final that on the Open final tomorrow, will take on 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:46.480 Arena Sablenka. She took out Mma Navarro the American, but 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.839 with Pegoula's win and with two Americans, Taylor Fritz and 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.559 Francis Tiafo facing off Antonit's men Semi's an American will 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.600 be in both singles finals. The Mets were off, will 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.120 host Cincinnati tonight, going for an eighth straight winner. Now 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:02.640 tied with Atlanta Yankees first series at Wrigley fieldsince twenty 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.720 seventeen day game with the Cubs. John stashed with Bloomberg 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:06.839 Sports Karen Nathan. 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:12.920 Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.000 and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:19.440 Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.680 Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager, continuing our focus on politics 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.920 and the economy with hedge fund billionaire John Paulson. He 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.880 joined Bloomberg Schanelli Bassek for a conversation on the Fed 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:32.360 interest rates and Donald Trump. Paulson has served as an 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.440 economic advisor to the former president. The interview began with 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:37.600 a question about the deficit. Let's listen in. 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:42.960 I'm not that concerned because the reduction in corporate taxes 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:47.080 was just for a segment of the corporate population, and 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:53.880 it concern those that are involved in US manufacturing overall. Currently, 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:57.959 we have about a two trillion dollar deficit under the 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:03.160 current administration. President Trump feels confident that could be reduced 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:10.240 several ways. One is through the revenue earned from tariffs, 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:16.079 which could be substantial. Two is by cutting wasteful spending. 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:20.920 The most important item he alluded to was the Green 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:24.200 New Deal, which over time adds up to somewhere around 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:28.800 a trillion in spending. And the third is not providing 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:36.800 federal benefits to illegal immigrants. So net, these revenue generation 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:44.000 and savings will offset any minor adjustments to the tax code. 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:46.280 You have obviously been a very large supporter of the 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.720 former president in this cycle. What underpins your faith in him? 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:54.439 First of all, his policies, which under his administration were 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:58.960 very successful. While people or these studies referred to, are 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:03.560 concerned about potential inflation or deficits. Under his four years, 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.520 the average annual inflation was only one point nine percent, 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:11.640 interest rates were very low, and oil prices were very low, 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:17.559 and real wages for the average worker increased. Under the 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:24.240 Biden administration, which is supposed to be for the average worker, 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:29.680 real wages declined because inflation was so high, interest rates 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:33.240 are much higher, and oil prices are much higher. So 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:36.400 when you look at the benefits four years under Trump 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:40.320 or four years under Biden, the average American has done 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.160 much better under Trump. 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.360 I also want to talk about interest rates because at 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.719 the end of the day, there has been a lot 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.280 of concern on Wall Street about what a Trump administration 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:53.160 would mean when it comes to the Federal Reserve. There was, 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.280 of course, that Wall Street Journal report a number of 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.599 months ago that question whether the Federal Reserve would remain independent, 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.840 And then we also have the former president commenting in 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.160 an interview with Bloomberg as well, saying that the President 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.800 can certainly be talking about interest rates because he has 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.520 good instincts. That doesn't mean he's calling the shot, but 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:12.320 it does mean he should have a right to talk 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:16.040 about it like anyone else. Do you share that concern 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.400 that you could potentially damage the reputation of the Federal 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:21.800 Reserve as an independent organization. 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.440 No, I don't share that concern. I think it is 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.360 important for the President and the White House and the 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:33.480 Treasurer Secretary to comment on economic policy, including interest rate policy. 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:36.640 But ultimately the decision is up to the Fed. But 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:41.800 it's important for the Fed to hear other viewpoints and 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:45.560 to make sure the Fed policies then sync with overall 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:47.360 fiscal policy to that end. 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.000 What do you believe should happen with interest rate policy 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:50.760 through the end of the world. 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:54.720 When you look at inflation now is somewhere around three percent, 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.400 interest rates are five percent, So real interest rates are 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:01.600 too hot. So the FED I think, waited too long 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:05.120 to bring interest rates down. So I think the likely 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.560 course of actually going forward is the FED will start 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:09.960 to cut interest rates. 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.400 What should they be by the end of twenty twenty five. 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.320 It's difficult to predict, but my best guesstimate would be 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:18.240 around three percent, perhaps two and a half percent. 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:20.720 And what would that mean in terms of ripple effects 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:22.120 across the economy. 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.640 Well, it's generally beneficial. The major cost when you get 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.880 a mortgage is the interest rates. So if mortgage, if 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:32.560 the cost of mortgages come down, the cost of buying 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.800 a home would also come down, and that makes a 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:40.600 housing affordability go up, and you know that would spur 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:42.520 a new housing development. 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:46.560 So another thing that the former president had tried to 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:50.560 do in office the last time around was privatized Danny Freddie, 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:52.680 is that something you think you would be able to 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.040 accomplish or as talking about accomplishing and then a potential 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:55.560 next term. 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:58.600 I think it makes sense. The intention of the Conservative 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:02.320 ship was to temper rarely put Fanny and Freddy in 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:07.000 conservativeship while they built up their capital. Initially, all the 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:10.880 earnings of Fanny and Freddy were swept out by the government, 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:16.240 but after Steve Manuchin left office he no longer allowed 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:21.200 that policy. 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