TURNOUT Episode 4: ‘Young people are the moral compass of the country’

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Listen to new episodes of Get Real with Caroline Hobby every Monday on the Nashville Podcast Network, Available on I Heart Radio, app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you list in the podcast. I think the most important thing for my generation, whether you know John Lewis was in Alabama, whether it's Jewelry Lattin and Joyce Lattin and Mississippi, or myself in New York. The murder of Emmett till was I mean a singular moment for a whole generation. My name is Cartland Cox. I participated in the Student and Volutordinating Committee organization from nineteen sixty to nineteen sixty seven. During the early week sep February sixty the demonstrations that came to be called the fit In movement exploded across the South. Even in New York. We all understood the question of race. If you were in high school, people try to tell you to take shop, don't take the academic subjects, because you're not gonna go anywhere with that. You had a place with in this society, with something deep down with fin you moving me that I could no longer be satisfied. I'll go along with an evil system. You were at the bottom of a hierarchy. There was no place for you in the economic world. There were no models for you in the political world. African Americans were second class human beings. I'm Katie Couric, and this is turnout. We had about a hundred and thirty this week on the podcast. Many of us didn't realize just how important our movement was growing the power and drive of youth activism. I was fourteen years old. I was a little eight year old girl, fifteen and maybe sixteen years old something like that. From the right to vote, to climate protests to Black Lives Matter, So many of the movements for change in this country have been led by young people just being on the front lines with the people that looked like me as also for their lives are now Also it's the same age as me or younger were trying to stay wrong, were up in jail, old and old again. I don't care, and I'm more than ever with all these protests. As long as they don't guys allow, I feel like we can definitely make more of a difference. We want our freedom and we wanted now. When you are twenty something, right, you don't understand all of the dangers. I mean you you know, you hear it, right, but it doesn't sink in. But we we were very, very conscious of what we were doing and we just kept moving forward. When he was a teenager, Courtland Cox learned of the lynching of a boy his same age and another state. It was a national addity that led Courtland, like so many others, to join the civil rights movement. For me, the singular issue was the question of Emmett Till. I was fourteen years old, and I remember it because you know, I was reading it in Jet Magazine on the subway in New York. The thing that was important for for the black community was the Jet Magazine. That was our Facebook, that was our Twitter, that was where we got the news and the decision of Emmett Till's mother to have his disfigured body on there, and it was in Jet magazine. That was the most profound place that could have been. It couldn't have I mean there no newspaper could have done what Jet magazine did. You found out about the black community By reading Jet Magazine, we knew that if we did not break that system, then many more people would be killed, Many more people would be you know, suppressed, many more people would would not have a life that they could pursue. That men had any meaning to it. Let's saales Emett Till for John Lewis's generation. But the fact that we have access to so much information because of Twitter, because of Instagram, because everyone has a supercomputer in their pockets. We've heard about every single one that has happened everywhere. Tyler okay K is a nineteen year old activist from Los Angeles who's in his second year of studying public policy at the University of Chicago. The death of Trayvon Martin the moment he died, I don't think I've worn a hood outside of my home ever since. I remember exactly where I was when I heard about the news in Florida, Parkland. We're on a bus heading actually to a Youth in Government conference where we would model the California state legislature in court. And it was that buzz full of students my age that we heard that seventeen students died because of a mass shooting incidents at a high school. Also hearing about families being separated at the border, and and a myriad of different losses. Right there have been so many, just little events of politicization and little events of reckoning that have really molded our generation into what we are now. In Tyler's junior year of high school, he was elected to be the sole student representative on the Los Angeles Unified School District Board. I wanted to uplift the voices and the issues that marginalized people in my community faced. But when he actually sat on the board his senior year and realized his vote didn't count, that he was simply in an advisory role, he decided to do something about it. He formally proposed that the school board consider expanding voting rights to sixteen year olds. The rationale was that at sixteen, we are deeply affected by decisions that are made throughout our political systems, but most directly by the decisions that are being made at our local school boards. His resolution passed, and Tyler continues to organize around statewide campaigns that expand voting rights to sixteen year olds. In fact, this November, there are three youth vote initiatives on the California ballot. The statewide effort is Proposition eighteen, which expands voting rights to seventeen year olds in primary or special elections if they turn eighteen by the next general election. The next one is Measure G, which is a local measure in San Francisco which would allow sixteen and seventeen year old citizens to vote in municipal elections in San Francisco. Another one is also still in the Bay Area of California, and it's in Oakland and measures called Measure q Q, which would extend the right to vote in school board elections to sixteen and seventeen year olds in that city. Tyler believes more young people would turn out to vote if they could be involved in the election process earlier. Eighteen is a very transitionary time, right. It's when people move off to college, they leave home, they find new jobs, they start to leave their own unique mark as an independent individual, and that makes voting even more complicated. Right. I'm someone who is deeply civically engaged, have every intention voting in this election. But it took me an arm and a leg and grappling with bureaucrats just to get my ballot, my l a county ballot since all the way to Chicago. And we believe that when we introduce voting at sixteen, when folks are in stable environments, sixteen year olds, juniors in high school across the country are taking us history. And once we have folks vote in at least one election, but preferably two elections, the statistics show that they're more likely to be lifelong habitual voters. It allows us to really grapple with America and the process of democracy, and it's a learning experience for us, and it's strengthens our democracy and make sure that we continue to have a culture of voting in the United States. Already get sixteen, But for Tyler, civic engagement doesn't stop at the ballot. I will always maintain that voting is the bare minimum that you can do. Voting is something I spent a lot of time talking about, mostly because of the vote at sixteen resolution I introduced when I was on the school board. But it is by no means our pathway to liberation and is by no means our pathway to freedom. M okay, so that the United States was the greatest purveyor of violence both here and abroad, but that's not something we hear often. So we can't say that we believe in liberation. We can't say that we believe in freedom for all. But our advocacy and our solutions end at voting every two years. It just does not make sense. So it's important that we understand we vote because we have to, and there's immense change that can happen within government, and we also organize outside of it because we need to and we have to. And it doesn't matter who the president it is. The violence of the United States isn't gonna end overnight. Coming up where youth activism and turn out collide, reclaim your Saturday's under God jump, and too smiling happy people will magically appear at your front door. They'll be driving a clean, shiny trout and they'll be wearing snappy, happy uniforms. All you have to do is point point point point, and that junk will be con gone, gone, gone, hooray. You have this Saturday. Give us a call and we'll give you back your Saturday's under God Jump or visit god junk dot com. I call the Union Hall as his male life, and there I think these peeps of planning to kill Dr King. On April four, Dr Martin Luther King was shot and killed in Memphis. A petty criminal named James Earl Ray was arrested. He pled guilty to the crime and spent the rest of his life in prison. Case closed right. James hill Ray was upon for the official story. The authorities would parade, Oh, we found a gun. The James el Ray bought in Birmingham that killed Dr King, Except it wasn't the gun that killed Dr King. One of the problems that came out when I got the ray case was that some of the evidence, as far as I was concerned, did not match the circumstances. This is the MLK tapes. The first episodes are available now. Listen on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, and welcome to our show. I'm Zoe de Channel and I'm so excited to be joined by my friends and cast mates Hannah Simone and Lamar and Morris to recap our hit television series New Girl. Join us every Monday on the Welcome to Our Show podcast, where we'll share behind the scenes stories of your favorite New Girl episodes, revealed the truth behind the legendary game True American, and discuss how this show got made with the writers, guest stars, and directors who made the show so special. 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The State Highway Patrol and the National Guards swarmed the St. Louis area using the same tactical get up and the same weaponry we've come to expect an urban warfare in Iraq and Afghanistan. Police and Ferguson, Missouri once again had to put down and head off violence in the streets following the shooting days ago of a young, unarmed black man who was supposed to head off to college this week, but protesters and activists came to joining the voices of the heartbroken community, among them Deray McKesson. In so many ways, it feels like it was just yesterday when the protests erupted. Deray was twenty nine and working in Minneapolis as the human resources director for the city's public school system. He drove out to St. Louis that first weekend and eventually stayed, leaving his job and dedicating himself to the streets, where he documented what was happening on social media. Today day of protests, We've been out here every day fighting because we know what's happening right now is wrong, and we'll continue fighting. The unrest and Ferguson set off Black Lives Matter protests all across the country, and Dray became one of the movements most prominent voices. The thing about the movement is that it was organic. People just came outside. People saw his body, and they came, and people stayed and people fought. And I think that like as much as people want the end of hierarchy, and that people want this narrative that like a person started it and did that, and I think that narrative is really sexy, but it is not true. So when we think about Ferguson is anybody who was in St. Louis will tell you that this was really organic. There were a set of people who had outside roles. I had a big platform. I was like sort of the town crier, but I was one of many people who had a big role to play, and like, I don't lose anything by saying that it is true. And it changed so many of our lives. And there's this weird sort of like way that people act, Like the protests like emerged out of the air. You're like, no, there was like a whole foundation that was set in uh set in St. Louis and in Ferguson for four hundred days straight with like no money. If you remember the press was not on our side then, I mean it wasn't. People weren't really celebrating activists. Now it's like it feels like everybody's an activist. Activism is sort of like mainstream. That was not the I remember like defending everything in because the press was so hostile to us. Dray is an activist, author and host of the podcast pods Save the People, and he traces the work that he does today back to his early years I ran for a rep in sixth grade to be like the sixth grade class rep. And that like put me on this path where I was like, I think I want to I think I want to do this. And because of some student government people, I found an organization to organize within the city, and like that changed my life. So I was in student government from sixth grade to a year in college. I like it was the most consistent thing I've ever done in my life. It's where so to learn what policy was and programming and how to be in meetings and with like how to fight, like you know, a ton of things. Hey, when I ran for a president of my elementary school and one just by eleven votes, Stephen Russell's read the word that I only won by eleven votes, I said, People wonder why I'm always smiling, It's because I'm happy, happy to go to such a wonderful school. Guess Jamestown is a wonderful school, and I'd like to keep it that way. Anyway. It's so weird that I remember that, But I mean, it's such a great point because getting involved in student government, it sounds like it really did give you the building blocks for what later would be your life's calling and your career. UM. You were saying you learned about public policy, you learned how to conduct yourself in meetings. You said you learned to fight, and I was like, what I just learned? You know, It's interesting. It was a combination of student government and then college, and I was in the student government. I was class president of student body president at Bowden UM. I learned both how to sort of like fight institutions and press, but also how to imagine. That was sort of the gift of boding. At Bowden, I learned what it meant to dream big, like what it meant to like live in a world where you can move constraints out of the way, like you could ask the biggest question, and and those things have helped me I mentally, So like in the work I do now around policing and incarceration and racial justice. So much of it is like we're telling a story about a world that has not yet existed, but we believe in. And that skill is something I learned at Bowden. At Bowden, how much pushback did you get for dreaming big, for being a disruptor, for imagining a world that did not yet exist? Yeah? So it wasn't. I don't even know if I would call it pushback as much as I would. It was like I had to like help people see him, like we can do this, we can totally do it. They're like, I don't know. I'm like, but but that's what happens, right, that people grow up seeing constraints. That's how you stay safe. That's how you're secure, is that you're like, Okay, here's where the limit is, and I'm not gonna go pass the limit. Here's how much money I have. I'm not gonna dream bigger than that. Here's how much space that Like, the constraints actually keep people safe. So I never blame people for starting from a place of constraints. Part of so much of my work is saying like, Okay, I totally hear that, but what about this, Like what do we do this? So at both and I think I refine that so now in the movements face so I'm like, oh, we can totally change the felony theft amounts, so we can ban on our grades, or we can like starting from a sense of possibility as an orientation is something I just like learned how to do and how to help people take that journey too. Do you think because the protests now are more diverse and encompass sort of more people socio economically, ethnically, racially, that that's why it's been celebrated in a much bigger way than the protests in Bergison. No, I think that. I think some of it was like Ferguson, like the groundwork. It was like the Ferguson protest, changes the language and did dada. I think that the hard part is that if you remember after, it was like a lot of panels, right. It was like people were like, oh goodness, I didn't know, I need to learn, and there was a lot of learning. So it's like a million panels, a million talks, a million like it was just like a lot of that. I think by the time came around, people were like, I know, they were like I get it. They were like okay. And and the hunger I see in is people trying to figure out what to do. I didn't see a lot of people trying to figure out what to do. I I saw a lot of people trying to make sense of what was happening, just trying to understand it. And I don't see that this time. This time I see people being like, oh, hey, got it, now, what like what do we do to fix it? I'm always mindful that a change in conversation is not a change in people's lives, right that, Like, the conversation is more mainstream than it's ever been, but the outcomes are literally the same, Like no change. How much credit as Black Lives Matter deserve for an increase in student activism and all kinds of social justice issues. He's when I think about Black Lives Matter, I think about a movement, and the same way that when we think about the Silver Rights movement. It was a broad collection of people, all fighting for black people in a specific way. And I think that it is undeniable that if the protests had not begun in Ferguson Feen, that there would not be this level of activism. Then I think that there was something incredible about seeing people standing in the street that empowered other people to stand in the street and seeing it online on social media, Like, I think it was a game change. I think that people understood that they have power. That's what the best of organizing is, right, The best of organizing is helping you realize you already have power. I can't give you power. You had it already. I can help you use it. I can help you see it and name it and marry it to policy. I can do that for you. And I think that the protests in fourteen did that for a ton of people. And then I think we just saw it tang you and continue. I think that we saw a sort of a zenith of it right now and in June, and I think that it wavers a little bit, and I think there will see it again, But I think is the beginning in so many ways. Do you think this kind of activism translates into voting, because historically many of the young people who are out on the streets protesting don't turn out to vote. What is that about? Yeah? I think some of it is like the messaging right there, Like I think that we can't shame people into voting. I think that's just a bad strategy. So I think I'm happy to shame people. I'm happy to do anything that gets them to vote. To ray, Yeah, I just don't I think that what we've seen those that it doesn't get them to vote. I think it doesn't get young people. I don't know if it might get older people, it doesn't get young people so saying things like if you care about the country, you vote, and I and I say that as somebody who like the first person ever permanently banned from Twitter was banned for raising money to try and get me killed. I've been dragged out of a police department by my ankles. My phone has been hacked. I get all these things happen to me. I voted. I voted every time. I didn't miss a vote. That like, voting wasn't the thing that like made America kind to me? It wasn't. I also don't expect there to be one thing to do it. Voting is like one of the tools and the tool kit. I think that there's a way for people who are willing to put their life in the line, especially in this to now moment, where when you tell them like if you care, your vote, people like if I care, if I care, I put my life on the line. I did that right. So I think that some of it is like the nuance with which we tell people that it's not this either or. It's not like vote or hate the country or like vote or do it is vote and do all the other things right, that this is not like an either or moment. Early evidence from the primaries, Tore suggests the youth voter turnout is going to be low again on Super Tuesday, fewer than one in five young people past their ballots. So why the why the disconnect? Yeah, I think we'll see, you know, I think of it's sort of a weird moment, but I think a lot of young people will vote. I think one of the things that the right does really well is that the right is always talking directly to voters, not to the elite, not to like this academic class. I think that the left is always talking to the elites. It is always talking like the MSNBC college degreed crowd, uh and only talking to like voters in their living rooms in the final moment. So, in this last couple of days, I've been on a lot of outreach to black men who are like oddly leaning Trump, and it's not hard to convert them. Board I realized it's like nobody's ever talked to them that like people just assume. One of the things that we learned right, which is interesting, is that racism alone is not a disqualifier for black men for Trump, which is interesting. And the reason it's not is what they would say, is that, like the whole systems racist, So like, okay, he's like another racist person in a racist system. The impact of racism is actually the disqualifier. So I'm like, did you not see the kids in the cages? They're like what kids in Kate? Right? Like they literally there's like a set of people who actually don't know the stuff that he's done. So part of it is like how do we actually tell stories that like Reinforth, they hear him and they watch Fox sometimes, but they actually don't see what he has done. So like it has been a lot of storytelling. And if there's anything that I understand more intimately than I did in is like the way and misinformation moves and the way that these narratives become spun so that we get people on our side who actually repeating, like top cop, repeating all this stuff that is like not true, but they've heard of a million times. I've learned that it's actually not enough to be right. That like you actually have to be a good storyteller and be right. If you have to do a p s A to get young people to vote, what would it say? Yeah, so I would say that like the vote is three things, that the vote is a power to hire fire in shape, and we want to make sure that you use all the power you have right that that's a part of this game. That we want to make sure that you choose the right people, get rid of the bad people, and that your values are represented in the panopoly of people, so that we can shape an agenda that values you and will take care of you. The second is that when you think about politics, I've heard a lot of people say that, you know, I don't do politics, and politics is always doing you. That the judge who decided on those sentences was probably elected, That the sheriff who enforced that eviction was probably elected. That the police chief is reporting to a person who is elected. That the laws that people are operating under like somebody chose them, that people who we chose. I'm making these choices that shape our lives, and we have a responsibility to make sure those are good people. And the third thing is that this is never either or that, like this is about doing this one thing right now, but holding people to the fire as we keep going, and hopefully you'll be one of the people that we vote for one day, so we won't have to say like, I'm disappointed in this person, had disappointed this person, I will actually just already have the people who represent so much of what we believe in. Tyler okayk is the nineteen year old voting rights activists. We interviewed him for this podcast and he said it's a symptom of what it looks like when young people finally have candidates that they can believe in a get behind, and he was citing people like aoc ilhan Omar, Katie Porter and other progressive candidates. Do you think that's what is going to motivate young people to get out there and vote when they have candidates they can really believe in. Absolutely. I think that some of it is, like, you know, people want to see that their values are clearly represented and not have to search for them, and I think that's hard for a lot of people. I think that, like, there are a lot of people who are like, you know, the right is trying to kill me, but like I don't really like the left. People like they're like lukewarm, But you know it is there are so many people that look like career politicians who like they've been in these roles for thirty years, they've been in the roles for fifty. You know, they've represented the district since I was born, and people are tired of that, you know, and they're certainly tired of it when like their community hasn't gotten better in any way that they can feel. And I think that we need to respond. That That's why AOC and Omar and Katie porter All. I think that that's why Corey Bush, that's why some of the new members in Congress and resonate with people because they're at least, like, you know what, you might not have done any of this political stuff before, but at least I know you've got my values with you, Like, I don't have to question that as someone who knows the power of social media very well. Should our election process be more online focused in your view? No, I think that we should just make a voting easier. Right, it should be a holiday. I think that's easy. I think that people should be able to register same day, Like we should just take all the burden off of voting. Everybody should be able to get a mail in ballot without without a reason, like all of that should just be easier. That. Yeah, I don't, so, I don't. I'm not convinced that the Internet is securing that friend now for this, but definitely we need to make it easier when we come back. How youth activists then and now keep the fight going. Reclaim your Saturday's God Jump and too. Smiling happy people will magically appear at your front door. They'll be driving a clean, shiny truck, and they'll be wearing snappy, happy uniforms. All you have to do is point point point point can that junk will be con gone, God, God, hooray. You have the Saturday. Give us a call and we'll give you back your Saturday's Got Jump or visit got jump dot com. 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But I think that that has always been the nature of this work, and I've always come to it with understanding that this is what we do for our communities, because the violence of poverty, the violence of police violence, the violence of climate change are all things that I prefer not to feel and not to impart on. Folks. The most important thing about young people, it's not that they're in the street once again Courtland Cox, veteran of the Student Non Violent Coordinating Committee or SNICK as it's known. It is that they have seen something and they've said, I Am not going to tolerate this injustice anymore. Now. It's gonna take them on a path. And it's taken me on the path over sixty years. It is them getting on the path that's the inspiration. The most humbling thing that I've found in my life. I'm now seventy nine years old. You know, the most important thing is that we did things that are necessary, but we will never do things that will be sufficient. And I tell young people that because they have to understand that this is a very long struggle, and you need these young people because they begin to imagine the world that is different. Whether they're talking about environmental stuff or whether they're talking about guns, or whether they're talking about race. They're able to see with their minds and create a different reality that benefits us. All I mean, that's to me is the aspiring piece. If you do nothing, nothing changes for the better. Documentary filmmaker Judy Richardson is another veteran of Snick. She co produced the Landmark PBS series Eyes on the Prize, which documents the history of the civil rights movement. We were interviewing E. D. Nixon, who was one of the major folks leaders in the Montgomery Bus Boycat and I remember we were interviewing him and at some point he said, you know, I've been working for for this stuff all my life, he said, And I always figured I was doing it for the folks who came behind me. But then I said, you know, I want to enjoy some of this stuff myself. Okay, but that's what you got from all the folks who were older than us. There was always a sense that they might never see the change that they were working for, but that if they did nothing, nothing would change for all the folks who came behind, or wouldn't change for the better. So I think part of it is is having been surrounded by those kinds of folks who had seen neighbors old for just trying trying to register, not even voting, for trying to register to vote. So they're used to all of these inequalities, have to fight tooth and nail just to get a little bit out, but they don't stop. That's what's amazing. And so I think part of the reason that all of us are still going um and I often say, you know what's amazing to me is that because we were so young when we started. I don't know any of us who were sitting around, you know, didn't baby booties. We're not doing that. You know. Now we may be doing that too, I shouldn't say that, but that's not all we're doing. You know that we are still I'm surrounded by people who are my age, who are in our seventies, some in our early eighties, you know, who are still working for justice. We haven't stopped. That's that's amazing to be and that's that's the energy that allows us to enjoy and reap the benefits of what all of that work did, right the fact that I can vote freely, and now my fight is not making sure that African American people have the most basic right of a citizen, but expanding it to young people and expanding it to more people, and um, it also allows me to do it with much less at stake. And that's that's what we That's what I hope to have contributed to for future generations, moving us a little bit closer towards the world that we want to see. There will be a moment where gen Z needs to defer to the generation below us because the visionary power that young people hold, and that is something that we need to continue to follow. Young people, not a certain generation, are the moral compass of the country. And I think right now this is our moment, and we're going to continue to develop our ideas and I think we will take our world further than we than any other generation has. But I hope that the generation that comes after us takes us even further than how far we've gone. And that's that's the idea I like to adopt about movements and young people's role in it, and also the potential that a generation brings to the table. Next week on Turnout, this is going to be a fraud like you've never seen. A conversation with the top Republican election lawyer on those baseless voter fraud claims. Where's the evidence? I think there's a lot of evidence, but will provide you with some. Okay, Benjamin Ginsburg's blunt rebuke. 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