Tanner Has No Regrets

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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour. I'm Joe and I'm Serena and we are with none other than Tanner from Vechelor in Paradise.

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Speaker 2: Tanner, what's up guys already? Thanks for having me on this.

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Speaker 1: Thanks of course, we got a lot we want to talk to you about.

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Speaker 3: Is this your first time ever on We didn't have you at Charities Mental hell did we?

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Speaker 2: No? No, it is my first time talking to you guys.

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Speaker 3: So welcome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was listening to you guys all all throughout Charity Season with all my boys like Joey and Dawton on. So this is cool nice?

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Speaker 1: Is this your first podcast?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Is oh nice?

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, you're my first, Joe.

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Speaker 3: Then it's a special moment, special moment for everyone.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's get into a little bit of your backstory. How'd you how'd you get on Charity Season in the first place?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I was just working, living in Pitts living in Pittsburgh and uh my brother just signed me up anonymously. He didn't even tell me he was doing it. So, uh I got a ring them call from a from a cruiter. They said, do you want to be on the show. I was like, I don't know, like probably not, but let's go through the process and kind of see what happens. And obviously I made it to the end, and it was one of those things where it was like, you know, you know, opportunity comes, you got to kind of go that way, and obviously I was single at the time, and so I said yes, and now we're here.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's the thing for a lot of people, especially people that get nominated or like scouted, is it's like do I want to be on the show?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: But do I want to see if I.

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Speaker 1: Could get on the show?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly, And then you.

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Speaker 3: Get to the end. It's such a lengthy process and then the opportunity arises. You're like, well, am I really going to say no to this? Like I did it, I got on, Like it's such a once in a lifetime opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think anyone. I don't think anyone. And I put myself in this group of people that, like, you almost don't want to admit to yourself that like you're kind of intrigued, Like you're like, oh, like they want me, yeah, wait, You're like your wall is instantly up until they finally ask you, and then you're like, well, I got to do it now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even all my friends were asking me, and I kept I didn't really tell anybody I was even going through the interview process because you really can, so I was kind of keeping it pretty close to my chest. But towards the end, once I got the contract, I was like, yeah, we're going to do this for sure.

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Speaker 1: So and are you still in Are you still in Pittsburgh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Pittsburgh, PA.

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Speaker 1: And what do you do for a living?

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Speaker 2: So I was I was a mortgage lender for the past three years, and I've always been part time personal training and working as a fitness instructor. But as of two weeks ago, I finally quit my mortgage job and I'm going fitness full time. So I'm super excited about it.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Thanks. It's one of those things where it's like your your your main hustle funds or side hustle until you can kind of go that way. So I'm excited. So hopefully good things are coming.

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Speaker 1: Do you have like do you have a do you have a gym? Do you have like a and him where you teach classes?

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Speaker 2: I do. I don't own it, but I operated a gym here in Pittsburgh, but I teach like it's almost like a Berries boot camp kind of feel. It's called Walk Run Lift Studio, So I teach classes there and I also film like my YouTube channel there and my own app coming out Probaly later this year.

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Speaker 3: So it'll be cool, big year, big year for Tanner. Well, if you guys live in Pittsburgh, you know where to find him. You know where to go get fit with Tanner.

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Speaker 1: I saw, I saw, yeah, I saw you were in uh, I saw you were in New York and you did that like five You ran like five miles through Central Park, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is the I love the run. I kind of have a love hate relationship with running. I like more of like a weightlifter. But you know, I had a shoulder injury, so I got into running, and New York's my favorite place in the world. So anytime I'm there, I try to go for at least like a long run just to kind of zone out and see the city a bit. So it was cool.

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Speaker 1: Nice, nice, Yeah, I'm doing the marathon and let's go. So yeah, that goes. But yeah, all the money like prepping for for it in all the miles that I'm putting in a week. I'm just like, my body's really starting.

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Speaker 2: How are you? How are your knees? Everything? Okay, my knees are good.

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Speaker 1: I'm more I'm more actually concerned about my ankles. But we'll see. My body feels okay. I'm just I'm it. I have a hard time because I still go to the gym and I'm having I'm struggling now, like lifting weights because I just feel like I'm I'm I'm losing losing, losing strength from running so much.

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Speaker 3: I'll be at the end with the sign.

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Speaker 2: And me too, I'll be at the end. That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into uh, let's get into paradise. Were you were you excited? Were you shocked when they ask you? Were you hesitant? And all? To go back on?

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Speaker 2: You know, it was a full day. I was in Pittsburgh a whole day before I got the call, so they gave me a lot of time to prepare thing.

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Speaker 3: You guys are it's like quick turnaround, but I guess it makes sense with the guy seduling for filming exactly.

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Speaker 2: So I you know, I was definitely shocked. I was like, you know, give me a minute here to kind of decompress from the bachelorette and uh, and it took Honestly, it took a while. I wasn't sure if it was something I wanted to do again. I was looking forward to kind of getting back into my everyday routine and everything. But once I found out, you know that some of my guys were going, and you know, there was interest on the other side with some girls that might be there. And again, I'm a yes man. I usually say yes to fun, exciting things, and you know, a couple of weeks in Mexico sounded pretty good, so I'm happy I did. It was those great.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of women right now that are interested in you, Like they're all been pretty vocal about like you've been like one of the number one guys. Have been waiting to see who on your end? Have were you waiting to see down there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Like who was your list when they asked who you were interested in?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean I even told Kat, I said I had a very very short list kind of going in and uh, and Kat was on it for sure, and uh and Jess was on it as well. So really those two were the only two that was like somewhat interested in. But once I got there, you know, it's like, well, kind of see what happens.

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Speaker 1: So okay, so you go down and you first grab at least we see, so you first grabbed Jess. How was that conversation and did she because we see a lot of things happening right now between her and Blake, Was she interested in going on a date with you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? For me, Jess was kind of hard to read in that first interaction. I was definitely super nervous coming onto the beach in the first place, and I was really looking forward to meeting her, and I don't know, we had We had a pretty good conversation, and to be honest, I wasn't sure who I wanted to take on that first tape, but I was happy to have at least met Jess. I mean, she's obviously gorgeous. He's kind of quirky and funny too, So you know, the conversation went great, but I didn't know if it had I don't know that spark, you know that right off, right off the bat, and to ask her on that date. So okay, yeah, so obviously I chose Kat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So so you choose so you choose Kat, and you guys go on a date. You seem you guys hit it off, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, A quick question, Yeah, before we jump into the date, So when because now we're like backtracking that all in terms of the show. At that time Kat was with Braiden and we saw that as viewers. Was she open about her relationship with Braiden? How did she kind of describe it to you before you asked her on the date?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kat was super excited to meet me, and you know, I obviously asked about Braiden, and she said that they were like, you know, talking right, they were getting to know each other. But she didn't give me any kind of sense that, you know, she was actively pursuing him and that she was like super excited about him. And then obviously things played out a little bit differently after that, but yeah, she didn't really make it seem like they were super super into each other into each other until you know, I kind of found out later on Gotcha.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, so you go on the date, get you, you hit it off with her, and you come back and then we see all the cat braid and stuff come to a head. So we don't really see on the show. We don't really see much interviews of you talking about it, But what's going on in your mind as all this is starting to go down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I tried to try my best to stay out of all the drama as much as possible. So I was probably talking to Wells at the bar, to be honest, But you know, the way I looked at it, it had nothing to do with me. You know. I came in and I asked her on a date, and I started a relationship with Kat. If Kat and Braiden had some kind of relationship prior to me, that's that's up to them to figure out, right. I didn't really want to get involved in that. I didn't really care to know more information about that. All I cared at that point was getting to know Kat and figuring out if we were gonna, you know, make it work or not. So I just tried to stay out of it as much as possible.

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Speaker 1: Smart, I mean smart. Okay, So now we get Cat. You and Cat are kind of you're basically together for paradise terms before Davia comes down, What is your what is your relationship status with Cat?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Where are you at? Like? Are you like, oh, this could really go somewhere. Are you like this is nice, but like we're still open?

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Speaker 1: Have you had Have you had the conversation about being exclusive yet? Is anything anything like that?

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Speaker 2: No? At that point, it was so early, especially for me because I came in a little bit late. So you know, from my perspective, Kat had a few days on the beach in the beginning to date to meet multiple people. She ended up liking Brayden, so she went that way. But for me, I came in and I really only got to really know Kat, so you know, I wasn't exclusive with her. I made that kind of clear with her. But I was excited about it, right, I mean, it was super super excited to be in Paradise. We went on an awesome date. Never rode a horse before, so like that was super fun.

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Speaker 1: Did not to cut you off? Did she? Did?

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Speaker 2: She?

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Speaker 1: You made it clear that you didn't want to be exclusive yet, But what was her opinion on that? Did she want to be exclusive yet?

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Speaker 2: No? She was on the same page, yeah, saying we were on this. We were always on the same page with when it came to that. You know, she didn't really press me to be exclusive with her, and I didn't expect her to be exclusive with me either, you know, someone else came down to the beach and asked her on a date, Like obviously, It's like that's always the hardest part about Paradise, right, It's like you want to try to be cool and like now you can go do your thing. But and I probably and I probably would have played that card. But uh, you know that's paradise, right. We're there to meet people, were there to date, so I wouldn't have tried to hold her back.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So Davia comes down, she asked, I want to talk to Tanner. You guys have a conversation.

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Speaker 3: And how does that combo go? Like I'm assuming she so we know she pulls you first. Are you thinking like she's gonna pull our guys or are you like, oh yeah, like there's a spark here? Does she like kind of like she obviously we know she came down to meet yo. Is she kind of disclosing that to you.

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Speaker 2: A little bit? She didn't say specifically when we had the conversation that like I'm here for you. She said that, like you know, you were on my mind, You're on my list, and uh, and that was great to hear from me, because like, I obviously knew that there was some buy in from her side, and she's like adorable. She was super cute and bubbly and like excited to be there, excited to meet me. So that conversation just flowed really well. But obviously I thought she was going to be pulling other guys too, so I wasn't really expecting to be the only one that she pulled.

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Speaker 1: So how did you feel when she said, Tanner, I don't need to pull anyone else. Would you like to go on the state with me?

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Speaker 2: I got super excited, man, I said yes right away.

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Speaker 3: I like that, and I like the way she said it of like I want to be in intentional. I talked to someone I have an interest in them, and I'm gonna go with that. I thought it was great, and like I can imagine, felt really flattering on your part.

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Speaker 2: Oh for sure. I mean it's a badass move and that's nerve wracking coming down to the beach. You don't know who's there, everyone's looking at you, and you have a date card and there's a lot of pressure. So she came in and I thought she was like she handled herself really really well. And that was attractive to me just to kind of see a strong, confident woman saying exactly what she wants and she wanted me at that point. So I've made me real good.

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Speaker 1: No, that really that that came across. Okay, So you guys go on the date.

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Speaker 3: And first you pull Kat oh okay, yeah, to have a chat with her.

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Speaker 2: That's a key part. I did pull Cat.

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Speaker 3: That is a key part. We will not skim over that. Don't worry, har We know you pulled Kat to have a conversation with her. Were you nervous going to that conversation because honestly from and it's her birthday, it's her birthday.

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Speaker 1: What an asshole she have her birthday that day?

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Speaker 2: I know, I know. And crazy story. I actually broke up with my last girlfriend on her birthday too, So this I know. I know. It's horrible. It's horrible.

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Speaker 1: Jesus should.

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Speaker 3: That information with people yourself?

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Speaker 2: All right? I didn't say that, but no, I mean, obviously horrible, horrible timing with birthday. And obviously don't want to ever hurt anybody, right, That's like the one thing I never want to hurt anyone. But I was excited, I.

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Speaker 1: Thought quick breaking up with people out of their birthday, for one, So we're.

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Speaker 3: Cutting that part out or striking from the record.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so I pulled Cat, and you know, maybe I should have pulled her first, had a conversation and then decided, but I was so in the moment and I was excited, so I responded pretty quickly. But I thought I did the right thing by pulling Cat and just letting her know where my head was at. And I just wanted to let her know that, you know, going on this date is going to give me clarity either way. Right. It's it's one of those things where it's if I go on the date with Dabia and we have a shitty date and it sucks and we don't like each other, then like great, and then come back and Cat and I keep building something that was already pretty strong, or like the opposite happens, right, So, uh, you know, I say yes and yeah, so we'll see.

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Speaker 1: And what was what was Kat's response to basically you saying, like, I'm going to go on this date?

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Speaker 2: She she wasn't happy. No, no, she was she was not not happy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what was her what was her reasoning for not being what was her. Did she tell you, like, I don't think you should go?

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Speaker 2: She didn't know, She didn't say that. She's like she said, she was kind of passive aggressive in the way she was saying, you know, go do your thing, whatever makes you happy. And you know, it put me in a bad situation too, because I wish that you would have been somewhat understanding of the position I was in, but there really was no understanding from her point, and she kind of stormed off. So obviously no hard feelings at that time. I went on and went on the date anyways, but it was it was definitely tough because you don't want to hurt anyone, and obviously it being her birthday, we planned on spending her birthday together at Paradise. So yeah, just just bad timing all around there.

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Speaker 1: So was there anything that she could have said to stop you from going on the date.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, to be honest. At that point, it was so early in our relationship and I wanted to go on a date with Dabya. You know it was she was a gorgeous girl that came down super excited, and I knew we were gonna have fun. So I don't think there's anything that Kat could have said that it would stop me. But I thought of Kat maybe handled it a little bit better. It could have maybe had a better impression in my mind about about Kat right.

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Speaker 3: The way she handled it, Like if she handled it and the conversation had gone really well and she was really understanding that, Yeah, you would have been attractive to that quality and maybe a little more like you probably still would have on the date but been like, oh, like I'm excited to come back and talk to her. Yeh like left you with a good impression before you went on the.

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Speaker 1: Date and that. Okay, so you're having your date with Davia now and it's from our point of view, it looks like it's going great. Could you talk a little bit about just how it went and everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, uh, we went to dinner and we had a beautiful conversation. Honestly, we were so engaged with each other and we shared a lot of deep things about one another, and it was awesome. We really had, you know, uninterrupted time to get to know each other, and we were actually a lot more similar than when we thought, you know, and we had a great dinner. Obviously, we had a little surprise on the rooftop after we had a little private salsa band up there and we danced the night away. And she's honestly a fantastic dancer.

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Speaker 3: Like I was gonna say, was she like a dancer or ballerina or something, because like you guys did the journey dance left, I was like, oh, she's like you say she she's like the way she's holding her body, she's done this before.

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Speaker 2: And I like that big dumb, strong guy like, yep, I can do this part. But yeah, I don't know if she was in ballet, but she was definitely a dancer. So I was just following her lead and we were cracking up like we were having so much fun, and it was honestly, it was a great, great night. It was a great date.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it looked like a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a good time, all right.

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Speaker 1: So then what is give us like a percentage of where is your mind at with who? After this date you're leaning more towards dove.

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Speaker 3: Out, I mean like seventy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like where are you?

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Speaker 2: You know? I hate this about myself, but I'm very indecisive and I try not to be, like I really like, take me to cheesecake factory, and I'll crumble because if there's too many options here but it's too big, like give me eight entrees, it'll be good. But uh, But honestly, between Cat and Doggya, they were so different, and and Cat and I started off so strong, and I went there to meet Cat, so that was always in the back of my head, where you know, I came here specifically to meet Kat. I'm here with Kat. Let's see where that goes. But then Dabia came in and kind of shook things up for me. So I hate to say it, but and that in those moments, I was really fifty to fifty I really was wow. Interesting.

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Speaker 1: See, I would have thought you would have been like especially the way Kat handled the initial conversation before you went on the date. I would have thought that day after watching that date, you would have been like eighty twenty Dabya.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had spent like three days with that, so there's a lot of like foundation there too, I guess, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was tough, and especially because like I wanted to, I never wanted to make too quick of a decision either too. I kind of wanted to see where things played out. So in those moments, it was fifty to fifty because in my head I was like, well, maybe even Cat and I can work on things. Maybe Cat and I can get there. Right, So it's it was tough. It was definitely tough. But yeah, I don't know, I was fifty to fifty in those moments. It was pretty hard.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so then you get you get down, you guys get down to the beach. We we we see in the teaser that you end up Pulley Cat have that conversation. So we can't talk about that. But what are you are you talking to any of the guys? Are you getting in?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Hey, I have a question. So yeah, did you come down late that day?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I don't think we didn't see anybody on the beach when we came back.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's yeah, that would have been part two my question. So it looked like the way it was all showed was you guys came back after everyone had gone to bed, and then you came down to breakfast at lunchtime.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, that's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you came down I'm assuming correct me if I'm wrong. After Kat and Davia had had their morning chat about.

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Speaker 2: Correct, yep, yep. I had no idea that they talked at that moment, but yeah, they had already spoke when.

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Speaker 3: You pulled Kat, Did you know that Davia and her had already had a conversation.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. No, I don't even I wasn't even thinking about that, to be honest, I was just kind of laser focused on the conversation I was about to have with Kat, you know.

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Speaker 3: And going into that conversation, how did you feel, you know?

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Speaker 2: I would I wouldn't say I was conflicted because I made up, made my decision and I went with it. But at the end of the day, I didn't want to have to hurt anybody, and I knew that Cat was into me in that moment, so I was nervous to have the conversation, But with the conversation you need to be had, you know.

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Speaker 1: But did you did you talk to any of your boys before that and kind of try to get the temperature of what happened the night before, what was going on with Kat?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit. I actually talked to Braiden, of all guys in the room a little bit about it. Uh, that that next morning, because when Dogby and I got back from our date, everyone was pretty much asleep. So yeah, I woke up the next day, talked to the boys and the room. I was talking to a then talking to Tyler, talking to Braiden a bit, and you know, I'm not sure if they gave me any advice that made me kind of go either way, just kind of following my heart in that moment. But your boy had to do what he had to do, you know. Wow.

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Speaker 3: So pulling cat aside that morning, and you know, obviously we're going to see how the conversation unfolds, But what are your intentions and your kind of like mental game plan going into this conversation with her? Like what do you want to tell her?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I was going to tell her exactly where my heart was, and I was going to try to just try to stay calm as possible, you know, I'd try to. I pride myself, I'm not getting too high or too low. So I was just trying to stay calm, cool and collected and just let her know exactly where I was, exactly why I went on the date, where I thought we were in that moment, and where I thought we could go, So just trying to wrap my head around all that so I can kind of tell her the best way possible.

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Speaker 1: So did you know where Davia stood before going into that conversation?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Not really, I mean, there wasn't it. We didn't confirm anything, we didn't really talk about it, but we knew we had a really good night and I felt like the energy was there and it was you know, we just had a really fun time and we were kind of meeting each other halfway, so I didn't feel like I had to ask her where we were. I kind of felt like I knew that in that moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, were you ever? And I mean like, obviously Kat is not a scary person, but were you Were you scared or nervous about her response going into the conversation just because the first combo of just going on the date hadn't gone well and now you're about to have a second conversation.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he was, yeh, I mean a little bit. I mean I am scared of Cat. I was. I was scared of Cat in that moment, you know, especially because Kat was super tight with all the girls in the beach too, so you know, if I rubbed her the wrong way, she could, you know, kind of room my reputation with the other girls or something like that. So that was kind of on my mind where I didn't want to hurt her, but I also didn't want to like room when you know, the reputation that I had on the beach.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to feel like you're like public enemy number one now with the.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly. So trying trying to play both sides. It's kind of tough.

00:23:11
Speaker 1: And we see we see a lot of we see a lot of things go down on this episode. What are your thoughts on the other couples on the beach?

00:23:20
Speaker 3: Let's talk through some of the.

00:23:23
Speaker 2: Couple somebody else really, yeah.

00:23:27
Speaker 1: We really do. On your situation, let's talk what is your what are your thoughts? Because we see, just for the first time, kind of open up that Blake is not really her number one.

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Speaker 3: Well she says she he is her number one, but with a lot of hesitancy and basically is just like he's my strongest connection number or like that's basically the tone is like there's no one else that I have a connection with, so because of that, he's my number one. And we're kind of just starting to see their relationship. I don't want to say crumble, but I feel like they're finally being like tested, yeah, tested. What was your take on their relationship at this point?

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Speaker 2: At this point, I mean, it seemed from me a pretty surface level. You know. I saw other relationships that were that were developing and getting stronger, and I can see them interacting, and it seemed like it would work. At times when I would look like see Blake and Jess, it looked like it was pretty surface level, almost like you know, this is my boyfriend, this is my girlfriend, and we're gonna sit next to each other, right, So, but I don't know how many behind closed doors or you know, elsewhere on the beach. I don't know what their conversations are looking like. But from from my.

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Speaker 1: Thing, that's the thing. On the beach, there really are no closed doors, so what you see is usually correct. Yeah, you know.

00:24:53
Speaker 2: That's very true.

00:24:54
Speaker 3: So then in contrast to yeah, I feel like that is what we're seeing as viewers. But it is interesting to hear that.

00:25:01
Speaker 1: Well, I want to ask you, who.

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Speaker 3: Do oh I got a question for me?

00:25:06
Speaker 1: Okay, because I want to hear I want I want Tanner's opinion on this who at this point do you think is Serena do you think is the strongest couple on the beach.

00:25:16
Speaker 3: I'm going to go Kylie and Evan.

00:25:18
Speaker 1: So I think the strongest couple on the beach right now is is Aaron b and Eliza who who in your opinion, is the strongest at this point.

00:25:27
Speaker 2: I gotta go with you, Joe. I gotta go with you. I mean, I'm not not taking anything again.

00:25:34
Speaker 3: That was like my pickers off, I'm not as good as they used to be. So now he's feeling pretty good about himself.

00:25:40
Speaker 2: Joe had me go and top four in the Bachelorette too, and I was one off. I couldn't make them proud.

00:25:46
Speaker 1: Let me down, Let me down, Tanner, Yeah.

00:25:49
Speaker 2: I'm sorry man. But and Eliza, I love them at that point, like they were just they just look great together and I love their energy and like he respected her so much, So like at that point, I thought that was the strongest. Even even Aaron said it a few weeks ago. He's like, you know, if anyone's going the distance, he thought it was going to be them, So yeah, I gotta go with you, Joe. But even and Kylie like that, next that next strongest couple for sure.

00:26:16
Speaker 3: Okay, gotcha.

00:26:17
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:26:18
Speaker 3: I feel like Eliza and Aaron did have that like test of her going on that date with John Bee and her coming back, and I feel like when that does happen, it like really solidifies a couple if you can kind of get through that. And she came back and was like, Nah, it's you.

00:26:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, or you do it, or you don't.

00:26:37
Speaker 2: Don't do it, don't do what I do, what not to do.

00:26:42
Speaker 3: Either thing is a good thing, though, because you either come back and you know one way or the other. It brings you that clarity.

00:26:48
Speaker 1: And then what about what about Tyler and Mercedes? Because we see Mercedes make out with John Henry and then we do see in the super teaser that Jack Tyler and Jess hook Opper makeout. So what is their relationship status because that has to be surface level in my opinion.

00:27:10
Speaker 2: You know, it didn't seem that way to me at that point. It looked like Tyler and Mercedes were actually hitting it off. And I really didn't see Tyler pursuing anybody else on the beach, and I didn't and I talked to Mercedes a few times. She's a good friend of mine at that point in the in the show, and it didn't seem like she was really pursuing anybody else either, so it seemed like there was something there, but they were probably just not exclusive yet, so I guess we'll see how it plays out. But yeah, and.

00:27:36
Speaker 1: Were you said to see how Sewn leave sew Well, Sean Sean's technically at this point, you and Sean went against each other in the in the tu on one.

00:27:48
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you guys did do the two one. Who are your closest friends on the beach You can include Sean, Aaron, and Well in that even though we just saw them.

00:27:57
Speaker 2: Leave, gotcha. Yeah, when John Henry and John B showed up, I was like, oh, let's go my boys here, but definitely Sean. I mean I was blessed. I mean all my guys for my show, for my season were on the beach, right, So yeah, I mean it was really only Tyler, Avan and Blake that really weren't and Will, but I don't know. I hate to give you the answer that I liked everyone, but I really do. So.

00:28:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so funny because when we had Joey on way back when at the beginning of Charity season, He also said John Henry's name, and I feel like we're just getting to know John Henry now as viewers, but he seems to be very well liked amongst them.

00:28:32
Speaker 1: John Henry is a nervous wreck, which understandable. I was like, yeah, I was like that when I was first in the showing. I see him shake, I'm like, oh, but you could tell he's probably very social and personable, but he just he has stage train at the beginning.

00:28:51
Speaker 3: Is that accurate?

00:28:52
Speaker 2: You know? He's he's so dry, So like the more you're around him, you kind of pick up on his humor and then all of a sudden, everything that comes out of his mouth it's hilarious. So he's kind of one of those so you kind of have to be around him for a while he has to warm up to you. But he's just a good human being. I love John Henry.

00:29:08
Speaker 1: I'm not very dry.

00:29:10
Speaker 3: You're not very dry.

00:29:11
Speaker 2: Now.

00:29:12
Speaker 3: Do you feel like it helps or hurts the guys when all of them are friends and buddies, because we do talk a lot about like the guys coming down and like they grow out and that ends up being like to their detriment, and also then the guys don't want to like step on each other's toes. You know, like you just said, John Henry's one of your friends. We see in the super Tease cat going after John Henry. Like, does it create kind of a weird dynamic.

00:29:40
Speaker 2: A little bit. I would say it created a lot weirder of a dynamic for the girls actually. So yeah, even though us guys were super close, I felt like we we knew the roles of like Paradise, right, we're there to date, we're there to meet people. Yeah, we're eventually gonna step on each other's toes, but there was always kind of a respect factor there too. Where the girls. I feel like a lot of the girls actually shut themselves off to dating anybody else because they maybe kissed one of their friends and they were really treating Paradise almost like you're out at a bar and like, you know, someone's talking to your friend, where you know, it's not really like that. We're on the reality dating show. We're supposed to be dating people and meeting people. So I feel like it actually hurt the girls more than hurt the guys because some of the girls really just like close themselves off.

00:30:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you have to have. I feel like you have to have a conversation with your friends going into that show of like, hey, my my number one goal here is to meet someone, so like, yeah.

00:30:42
Speaker 3: But you just never know how it's going to go till you get down there. Like Abigail and I didn't have that conversation, and like we never needed to. We went for different guys. We're interested in different guys, and I feel like you kind of hope that's how it's going to go. And I feel like this season we're seeing a little more crossover, a little more like, you know, people worried about exploring and stepping on each other's toes than maybe we've seen in the past. But that's interesting that it was the girls this season.

00:31:05
Speaker 1: That's why there's a truth box, and that's why there's the truth.

00:31:10
Speaker 2: Truth, the truth box, the truth box. But yeah, that truth box is crazy.

00:31:15
Speaker 3: It was you weren't there for truth and dare the truth? There? You were on your day with dab right, Yeah, yeah, I was dancing the night away. You're dancing the night away.

00:31:23
Speaker 1: All right, all right, we're gonna we're gonna jump in. We're gonna play a quick game Tanner before we do, though, I want to ask you have any any regrets?

00:31:32
Speaker 2: No? Okay, zero, I didn't think so.

00:31:34
Speaker 1: You don't strike me as a guy that regrets things.

00:31:37
Speaker 2: I got a tattooed on my arm.

00:31:38
Speaker 3: Not kidding, I have no regrets.

00:31:42
Speaker 1: Do you do you want to do what you want me to do?

00:31:44
Speaker 2: It?

00:31:44
Speaker 1: You do it?

00:31:44
Speaker 2: Joe?

00:31:44
Speaker 1: All right, rabbit fire. Are you more of an introvert or extrovert?

00:31:49
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm introverted extrovert to be honest.

00:31:54
Speaker 1: Okay, already breaking the rules. What would you what would what would be your go to paradise cocktail?

00:32:01
Speaker 2: Oh, it depends on the time of day. Sorry, It's supposed to be one word answers. It depends on the time of day. It goes early to be Mimosa with Rachel, and if it's anytime past like two pm, probably tequila soda a lot.

00:32:15
Speaker 1: Okay. What is the first thing you would buy if you won the lottery?

00:32:20
Speaker 2: You can answer this so many different ways. Probably real estate, probably by real estate be rich forever, and by beach house too.

00:32:29
Speaker 1: What all time favorite Taylor Swift song?

00:32:34
Speaker 2: You know I'm actually a new Swifty. I used to love Taylor Swift. I'm kind of getting back into it. I love Cardigan Cardigan.

00:32:41
Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, that is a good one.

00:32:44
Speaker 2: It's so good. I listen to that Song's gonna love.

00:32:46
Speaker 1: That Sean Johnson Swifty. He said it eighteen hundred times in the show. What is one item on your bucket list?

00:32:58
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of this is out of my control. But the Steelers ever go to the Super Bowl, I'm gonna go see them with it. Steelers, Well, they say it might not be for a while, Joe, but we'll see. Well, I'm a Bears fan, so you're similar.

00:33:13
Speaker 3: In this recent episodes have done his absolute best to integrate football into every single podcast. We go back and listen to our last like six episodes. Somehow Joe has found a way to brant football just so funny belist.

00:33:28
Speaker 1: The Steelers have have been in the past ten years, They've they've made the playoffs a few times, right, Yeah.

00:33:34
Speaker 2: I mean Mike Tommins never had a losing season. I mean, we kind of had a lot of good teams that didn't win anything. But I don't know, We're used to winning championships in Pittsburgh, so it's been it's been bad recently.

00:33:46
Speaker 1: We're not in Chicago. Do you have any dating deal breakers.

00:33:54
Speaker 2: Not not really. I mean I like to exercise and like live like a healthy life, so they that needs to be a priority for my girl for sure.

00:34:03
Speaker 1: What is your love language?

00:34:05
Speaker 2: It is access service.

00:34:09
Speaker 1: What is your favorite dessert?

00:34:14
Speaker 2: Favorite dessert? I like like a like a hot brown like chocolate brownie with like vanilla ice cream, a little hot and cold.

00:34:22
Speaker 1: Do you think you will end up breaking up with somebody on their birthday in the future, I would never do. What is What is the important item to pack for paradise.

00:34:36
Speaker 2: I've heard people say this in the past, but for me, it's one hundred percent sure. It was bug spray. I got killed with the bugs. Like if you if you watch the show, if you pay attention to my back at any point in time, like I had huge welts all over my back then, that's sorry.

00:34:49
Speaker 3: Crazy. So our season, the weather was too insanely hot, like it was brutal. The only good thing about that is we had no bugs. But we came back the following year and did a little visit and I was getting eaten alive. I was like, what is going on? The weather is beautiful, but I'm like covered in bug bites. Oh my god, the worst.

00:35:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was bad for us. And it wasn't too hot for us either. Down there. It wasn't nice.

00:35:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, lucky it was hot in our season.

00:35:19
Speaker 2: We had made a couple of hot nights like that. The last road ceremony, I was dripping sweat. It looked disgusting, but yeah, the worst.

00:35:27
Speaker 1: All right, Tanner, thank you, thank you for coming on a Happy Hour.

00:35:30
Speaker 2: Thanks yeah, thanks very thanks Joe.

00:35:32
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, guys, and thank you everyone for tuning in. And remember new episodes of Bachelor and Paradise here every Thursday on ABC at nine to eighth Central following the Golden Bachelor, or you can stream them both the next day on Hulu.

00:35:44
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00:35:53
Speaker 1: Thanks again everyone, and see you next time. Bye,