WASHINGTON STATE BIGFOOT: I HAD A FEW ENCOUNTERS AND NUMEROUS INTERACTIONS WITH THE SASQUATCH!

<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, and welcome back to Sasquatch Theory. In this episode,
<v Speaker 1>I'm interviewing Brie from Washington State. She has had a
<v Speaker 1>few encounters and numerous interactions with the Bigfoot creatures in
<v Speaker 1>an area near Mount Saint Helen's. Brie is an outdoors
<v Speaker 1>woman who just loves to be out in nature and
<v Speaker 1>enjoys everything it has to offer. Some of my favorite
<v Speaker 1>stories have come out of this area as it has
<v Speaker 1>a rich.
<v Speaker 2>History with Sasquatch activity.
<v Speaker 1>Some of the stories I've heard in this area kind
<v Speaker 1>of relate to people possibly invading the Bigfoot's personal space
<v Speaker 1>or maybe people irritating them in some possible way. For example,
<v Speaker 1>I've heard stories where people have had heavy machinery destroyed
<v Speaker 1>with large omitted tracts being found in the area. They
<v Speaker 1>just don't like certain areas being tampered with by humans
<v Speaker 1>and they will let people know it. Another example is
<v Speaker 1>the Mount Saint Helen's story where the eruption in nineteen
<v Speaker 1>eighty destroyed the surrounding forest. Many strange glories began to
<v Speaker 1>surface from this area later on, where people have reported
<v Speaker 1>the US government and recovering Sasquatch that were killed or
<v Speaker 1>injured from the explosion. We won't go into those, but
<v Speaker 1>I think a majority of you have probably heard of them.
<v Speaker 1>It just seems to me like they want to be
<v Speaker 1>left alone and don't want people messing with their habitat.
<v Speaker 1>I know lately in Washington there has been fires and
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of homeless people living out in the woods.
<v Speaker 1>I wonder how that will affect the Bigfoot. Do you
<v Speaker 1>guys think they will live around the people or do
<v Speaker 1>you think they will migrate to a different area or state.
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure the missing four on one list will be
<v Speaker 1>getting much longer if people don't respect that boundary. I
<v Speaker 1>notice most of the people the sasquatch interact with have
<v Speaker 1>a deeper appreciation for nature. They understand people need to
<v Speaker 1>use the forest just like animals do. I believe the
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch can become acclimated to certain individuals, causing them to
<v Speaker 1>be a little more vocal or noisy, or sometimes even
<v Speaker 1>being caught in plain sight. If you're out there enough
<v Speaker 1>when this type of activity is occurring, you really have
<v Speaker 1>a good chance of seeing a big Foot in my opinion. Anyways,
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to say thank you again to my subscribers
<v Speaker 1>and all the people that watch my videos. I also
<v Speaker 1>wanted to say, if you've had a big foot encounter
<v Speaker 1>and want to be on the show, email me at
<v Speaker 1>Sasquatch Theory at outlook dot com. All right, everyone, let's
<v Speaker 1>get into this next bigfoot encounter from the state of Washington.
<v Speaker 1>All right, Brie, welcome to Sasquatch Theory and I appreciate
<v Speaker 1>you being on the show.
<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no problem.
<v Speaker 1>If you could, could you take us back to your
<v Speaker 1>encounters and tell us where they occurred and kind of
<v Speaker 1>what happened.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Actually it started when I was a little girl.
<v Speaker 3>My grandfather was a logger in Oregon and he was
<v Speaker 3>a total skeptic and he saw one when he was longing.
<v Speaker 3>He saw it walk, I mean right in front of him.
<v Speaker 3>He was on his machine and it walked across the
<v Speaker 3>forest service road in like two steps. And he was shocked,
<v Speaker 3>to say the least. And he would always tell us
<v Speaker 3>that story when we were little, so I kind of
<v Speaker 3>always grew up knowing about them, and we actually even
<v Speaker 3>had a cat with six toes that we named sasquatch
<v Speaker 3>before I was young. That was when I was really young,
<v Speaker 3>and I didn't know what that meant, and they told
<v Speaker 3>me it meant Bigfoot, but I didn't realize. I didn't
<v Speaker 3>connect it to the actual Bigfoot until I got older
<v Speaker 3>and my grandpa would tell me about his stories. And
<v Speaker 3>my first experience was in the woods at the back
<v Speaker 3>of my house in brush Prairie, Washington, and we had
<v Speaker 3>this big huckleberry bush and I don't know, maybe sixty
<v Speaker 3>feet in the woods, and this little footpath literally less
<v Speaker 3>than a foot wide, like a game trail that we
<v Speaker 3>would race or we would race to the hugleberry bush
<v Speaker 3>and pick huckleberries. And this thing was old growth, like huge,
<v Speaker 3>you couldn't see through it. It was way taller than me,
<v Speaker 3>way wider than me. I mean, it was the best
<v Speaker 3>red huckleberry bush I'd ever seen in my life. So
<v Speaker 3>four of my sister, three of my sisters one day
<v Speaker 3>we were racing to that bush, and as I mean,
<v Speaker 3>we were going full speed, and as we were getting
<v Speaker 3>up to it, that bush started violently shaking like it
<v Speaker 3>was going to be uprooted from the ground, and something
<v Speaker 3>was making all of these crazy noises, and it scared
<v Speaker 3>us so bad. We ran back in the house, locked
<v Speaker 3>all the doors. We were freaking out and our parents
<v Speaker 3>thought we were just being hysterical, ridiculous, so they brushed
<v Speaker 3>it off, Oh, it was probably a bear, and we
<v Speaker 3>were like, yeah, it wasn't a bear. Bears don't make
<v Speaker 3>those kind of noises. So that was kind of my
<v Speaker 3>first experience with what I believe was a bigfoot. He
<v Speaker 3>was usually all the black bears I've ran across, and
<v Speaker 3>I've come across a lot in the woods, they run
<v Speaker 3>the other way. As soon as they see you or
<v Speaker 3>smell you, they just run and take off in the
<v Speaker 3>other direction. So that whatever that was, it stood its ground.
<v Speaker 3>It did not want us to be near that bush,
<v Speaker 3>and it wanted us to leave. So that was kind
<v Speaker 3>of my first experience. My first sighting was in twenty
<v Speaker 3>ten and I was up I'll say, in between Mount
<v Speaker 3>Saint Helens and Mount Adams. That's about as close as
<v Speaker 3>you're going to get for a location. And we were
<v Speaker 3>going to a lake and it was in October. It
<v Speaker 3>was maybe a week before Halloween, and we were driving
<v Speaker 3>up to this lake and I had been in the
<v Speaker 3>woods all summer that summer, and it was me and
<v Speaker 3>my boyfriend at the time, and we were driving on
<v Speaker 3>this forest service road. It was a gravel road and
<v Speaker 3>we were kind of up higher and down below was
<v Speaker 3>this gully and it was it had been logged, but
<v Speaker 3>there was like a i don't know, like half moon
<v Speaker 3>shape around at the edge of it was old growth
<v Speaker 3>for ut so just this area had been logged and
<v Speaker 3>I was looking out the window. He was driving my car,
<v Speaker 3>and I looked and I thought I saw an elk butt,
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, whoa, that's a huge elk And there
<v Speaker 3>was some young saplings blocking my view that was right
<v Speaker 3>up against the side of the gravel road, and there
<v Speaker 3>was a clear spot. Well I looked over and I
<v Speaker 3>realized that elk butt was just a tree stump, and
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, okay, that was dumb, and so I
<v Speaker 3>kind of just following. We were driving really slow because
<v Speaker 3>it had been the first snow of the season. We
<v Speaker 3>didn't realize it had snowed because down we were down below.
<v Speaker 3>So at the higher we got an elevation, we realized, oh,
<v Speaker 3>there's snow on the ground and it started to snow.
<v Speaker 3>So we were driving really slow because it was just
<v Speaker 3>my four door car. It wasn't four wheel drive or anything.
<v Speaker 3>And so I look at I realized that elk but
<v Speaker 3>was a tree stump, and I glanced over to the
<v Speaker 3>left and right where the logged part of the forest
<v Speaker 3>met the old growth forest stood this bigfoot. He was massive.
<v Speaker 3>He was standing next to a tree that I would
<v Speaker 3>call like a Christmas tree, like that you would put
<v Speaker 3>in your house, so it was probably the tree was
<v Speaker 3>between eight and nine feet tall, and this thing was
<v Speaker 3>taller than that. I saw every bit of him except
<v Speaker 3>for his feet because there was brush on the ground
<v Speaker 3>so I couldn't see his feet, and he was just
<v Speaker 3>standing there next to this tree, and I like, it
<v Speaker 3>took my breath away. He was ginormous. And I knew
<v Speaker 3>they always existed and I believed in them, but and
<v Speaker 3>I always wanted to see one. And I actually started
<v Speaker 3>crying what I saw it for the first time, because
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh my god, I felt so special, like
<v Speaker 3>I finally get to see one. And I was telling
<v Speaker 3>my boyfriend at the time to stop, to slow down.
<v Speaker 3>I just saw a bigfoot, and he's like, oh whatever.
<v Speaker 3>He didn't believe and he wouldn't stop, and so I
<v Speaker 3>just kind of watched it until trees obstructed my view
<v Speaker 3>and just kind of sat there in silence and awe,
<v Speaker 3>like wow, I really saw one, and this was I
<v Speaker 3>don't know, less than a mile away from the lake
<v Speaker 3>that we were going to and in the general area
<v Speaker 3>that I had been all summer. So I was super stoked,
<v Speaker 3>and after that I was hooked. I basically spent that
<v Speaker 3>whole summer, plus like I had a house. I would
<v Speaker 3>go home and do laundry like for a day or something,
<v Speaker 3>and get like supplies or you know, food and stuff
<v Speaker 3>like that. But for the most part I was camping.
<v Speaker 3>I was either camping in a like camper van or
<v Speaker 3>in a tent, and I stayed up there for about
<v Speaker 3>a year, going in the woods, being in the woods,
<v Speaker 3>looking for mushrooms, for rocks, for berries, I mean, foraging,
<v Speaker 3>taking pictures, just being out in nature. So I started looking.
<v Speaker 3>So the second siding I had was dear Water. Actually
<v Speaker 3>all of them have been dear Water for the most part.
<v Speaker 3>And I was with my brother and taking him on
<v Speaker 3>this road, a gravel road. It was a forest service
<v Speaker 3>road in Washington, and we were looking for mushrooms. And
<v Speaker 3>I was driving really slow because this road has lots
<v Speaker 3>of potholes, so maybe like a couple miles an hour,
<v Speaker 3>definitely under five miles an hour because I literally was
<v Speaker 3>having to dodge potholes like every few feet and they
<v Speaker 3>were super deep. So out of the left window, my
<v Speaker 3>driver's side window, I saw a big foot speeding off
<v Speaker 3>towards the left. We were going straight and he was
<v Speaker 3>going back the way that we had came, and it
<v Speaker 3>happened so fast I slammed on my brakes. My brother
<v Speaker 3>saw left of it than I did, but he did
<v Speaker 3>see something and we stopped and just sat there for
<v Speaker 3>a minute and was like, should we get out? And
<v Speaker 3>we finally decided to get out of the car after
<v Speaker 3>a couple of minutes, and we were looking around and
<v Speaker 3>found this cross in the ground. It was like a
<v Speaker 3>welded metal cross and it had I can't remember the
<v Speaker 3>lady's name, but it was like a memorial. I don't
<v Speaker 3>know if she was buried there, her ashes were buried there,
<v Speaker 3>but it was kind of weird. Well, we were looking
<v Speaker 3>at that, and then I looked and there was some
<v Speaker 3>sunlight shining through the woods and it was shining on
<v Speaker 3>this tree that had oyster mushrooms oyster mushrooms on it,
<v Speaker 3>and that is the area where I saw the bigfoot
<v Speaker 3>and it was a good I don't know fifty feet
<v Speaker 3>in probably at least, and we were kind of more
<v Speaker 3>just a little ways off the road. We were too
<v Speaker 3>kind of too scared to go back there. But once
<v Speaker 3>I saw the mushrooms, I'm like, we have to go
<v Speaker 3>back there. So we walked back there and there was
<v Speaker 3>mushrooms on the ground and they had been picked off
<v Speaker 3>of the tree. They weren't broken up in pieces. Now,
<v Speaker 3>I know bears eat mushrooms, but bears don't have thumbs,
<v Speaker 3>you know, So they were picked off the tree and
<v Speaker 3>on the ground. And I had guessed that we spooked it.
<v Speaker 3>It was picking mushrooms and we had spooked it. So
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, well, sorry, you know, I'm taking your shrooms.
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry. So we're picking these mushrooms and I had
<v Speaker 3>to hoist my brother up on this tree to get
<v Speaker 3>these mushrooms. And all of a sudden, I had this
<v Speaker 3>stench and I couldn't tell where it was coming from,
<v Speaker 3>and my brother could smell it also, and we're trying
<v Speaker 3>to figure it out. We kind of started getting scared
<v Speaker 3>because I figured maybe it's come back and it wants
<v Speaker 3>it's mushrooms. But I figured out the smell was coming
<v Speaker 3>from the tree, and this was like I'm not sure
<v Speaker 3>what tree. It was a deciduous tree, and it had
<v Speaker 3>smooth bark, so maybe like a birch tree or something.
<v Speaker 3>And there was this area on this tree. There was
<v Speaker 3>nothing on the bark whatsoever. It was smooth, but it
<v Speaker 3>stunk to high heaven. I mean it was bad. It
<v Speaker 3>was I don't know, maybe eight nine inches across and
<v Speaker 3>maybe a foot or so tall or in length this area.
<v Speaker 3>And I I mean, I was sitting there smelling the tree,
<v Speaker 3>like smelling different areas. I had my brother hoisted up
<v Speaker 3>in the tree and I'm asking him to smell, you know,
<v Speaker 3>that area of the tree, and he didn't smell that
<v Speaker 3>smell anywhere else. And there was like a residue. It
<v Speaker 3>wasn't like a slime mold or anything like that. It
<v Speaker 3>was kind of like an oily type I don't know,
<v Speaker 3>kind of oily, I guess, like a shed to it.
<v Speaker 3>And I wondered if maybe it had put had one
<v Speaker 3>of its hands on that tree while it was picking mushrooms.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know if that smell came
<v Speaker 3>from him or not, but I know it was a
<v Speaker 3>bigfoot that I saw, you know, racing away from that
<v Speaker 3>general area and then once we saw the mushrooms on
<v Speaker 3>the ground, I figured that he was picking the mushrooms,
<v Speaker 3>but we ended up getting them all. I have tons
<v Speaker 3>more encounters. I don't know how many you want me
<v Speaker 3>to tell, but that kind of I ended up staying
<v Speaker 3>in that area because there was activity that I mean,
<v Speaker 3>there was mushrooms, There was all different kinds of mushrooms.
<v Speaker 3>There was berries, there was water. Where the road is,
<v Speaker 3>there's a river and the road is runs parallel to
<v Speaker 3>this river, and there's a little strip of woods between
<v Speaker 3>the river and the road, and then to the right
<v Speaker 3>side of the road, it's nothing but forest that goes
<v Speaker 3>for miles. And that's where they would come from, is
<v Speaker 3>from that right side, and they would cross over the
<v Speaker 3>road and go to the river, but they would be
<v Speaker 3>on both sides. But that's where they came from. Was
<v Speaker 3>up there because it gained an elevation and it's almost
<v Speaker 3>I mean I climbed it one time and it's super steep.
<v Speaker 3>There's no trails or anything. You're basically billy go to
<v Speaker 3>get up this steep embankment and then it flattens out
<v Speaker 3>a little bit. There's dry creek beds and stuff. But
<v Speaker 3>I think that's where they came from, was back up
<v Speaker 3>and there, because they wouldn't let us go back. Any
<v Speaker 3>time we would go up there and get far enough in,
<v Speaker 3>they would basically break break branches, push over trees, scaring
<v Speaker 3>us to death, and basically telling us to get out.
<v Speaker 3>So we only we went up there a few times.
<v Speaker 3>But the last time we went up there, I had
<v Speaker 3>a guy go up ahead of me and uh something.
<v Speaker 3>It sounded like a tree breaking, the biggest snap crack
<v Speaker 3>you could. I mean, it was loud as scared me,
<v Speaker 3>And all of a sudden, I see him start running,
<v Speaker 3>making a bee line towards me, and I'm asking him
<v Speaker 3>what's wrong, what's wrong? And he's like nothing, nothing. He's
<v Speaker 3>brushing me off like nothing's wrong, you know, being kind
<v Speaker 3>of a jerk about it, like there's nothing going on.
<v Speaker 3>What are you talking about? And I'm asking him, well,
<v Speaker 3>what was that noise? And he would tell me. And
<v Speaker 3>later that night we were sitting around drinking and playing cards,
<v Speaker 3>and I had got up to use the bathroom and
<v Speaker 3>I came back and heard him telling the other people
<v Speaker 3>that were with us that he didn't know what that was,
<v Speaker 3>but he figured it was then telling him to stay
<v Speaker 3>away because he had gone way ahead of me. And
<v Speaker 3>we did find a track that day. Basically, once we
<v Speaker 3>got up to the top where it flattened down a
<v Speaker 3>little bit, we had found a track and I took
<v Speaker 3>a picture of it next to his boot, and I
<v Speaker 3>was picking mushrooms. That's why I had stayed a little
<v Speaker 3>bit behind, and he had gone farther ahead, and I
<v Speaker 3>left them a pile of Chantrell's on this stump. I
<v Speaker 3>usually always leave them things, just my way of saying
<v Speaker 3>thank you for letting me take your food. And that
<v Speaker 3>was when he had went up farther ahead of me
<v Speaker 3>and then had that tree snap. And I'm talking five
<v Speaker 3>six seven inch tree is what it sounded like. I
<v Speaker 3>mean it. I mean it was a sizeable tree, and
<v Speaker 3>it sounded like a shotgun. The the loudness of it,
<v Speaker 3>I mean it was loud. And we never we would
<v Speaker 3>go up there, but we would stay kind of right
<v Speaker 3>on the cliff type area. We would go any farther back.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so real quick, let me do a recap.
<v Speaker 1>You've you've had these sightings and these experiences, and you
<v Speaker 1>were drawn to this area because of the berries and
<v Speaker 1>mushrooms and the river. Yes, for the forest. So you're
<v Speaker 1>experiencing this activity and you're realizing that or you know
<v Speaker 1>that there's bigfoots in there, you've already seen them, you're
<v Speaker 1>seeing evidence, and now you're returning back to the area
<v Speaker 1>to see what else you can experience. Correct, And it's
<v Speaker 1>only happening in this in this area, right.
<v Speaker 3>I've seen them in other areas, but they they really
<v Speaker 3>did want me in those areas. I mean, it's all
<v Speaker 3>in the same general area. It's I'll tell you it's
<v Speaker 3>in the same county. I should say within you know,
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, twenty miles maybe twenty thirty.
<v Speaker 2>Do you want to say the name of the river
<v Speaker 2>or do you want to No? I don't, Okay, Okay.
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you it's in Scamadia County. That's that's That's
<v Speaker 3>as far as I'll go. But there's a law in
<v Speaker 3>Scamadia County that you're not supposed to harass them. So
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if many people go up there, but
<v Speaker 3>I was up there because I had friends that live
<v Speaker 3>up there and that's where I camped.
<v Speaker 1>So there's an actual law that says you're not supposed
<v Speaker 1>to harass the bigfoot.
<v Speaker 3>Is that what you're Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it was in
<v Speaker 3>the sixties or seventies. I think they made a law
<v Speaker 3>for Scamadia County. I think Gray's Harbor County, and Washington
<v Speaker 3>also has the law. I'm not sure, but yeah, it's
<v Speaker 3>it's a I think they dropped it to a misdemeter
<v Speaker 3>It's like, I don't know how many days in jail
<v Speaker 3>or something in a thousand dollars fine or something like
<v Speaker 3>that for harassing them or hunting them or Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So if you go up there and would knock and
<v Speaker 1>do whoops, is that considered harassing?
<v Speaker 3>I don't I wouldn't think so. But again, and I
<v Speaker 3>would be up there with a couple of friends. Most
<v Speaker 3>of the time, I was by myself, Like once I
<v Speaker 3>really started getting into it, I would I would go
<v Speaker 3>out before the sun rose, and I would come back
<v Speaker 3>until the sun was setting. I would be out in
<v Speaker 3>the woods all day. And so I don't know. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>if I would assume if you had a whole group
<v Speaker 3>of people going out with the sole purpose of wanting
<v Speaker 3>to find Bigfoot, and somebody got word of that, I
<v Speaker 3>think they might.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I find your story frighteningly similar to mine.
<v Speaker 1>You were on a road a forested road and you
<v Speaker 1>saw them both times near the road, correct, Yes.
<v Speaker 2>And there's water near the area.
<v Speaker 1>And yes, I find it interesting because I was out
<v Speaker 1>there doing the same thing. I was looking for mushrooms,
<v Speaker 1>Chantrell's or chicken of the woods and of the woods,
<v Speaker 1>anything that was edible and growing at the time, and
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to be out there and join nature.
<v Speaker 1>Well after I had my sightings, i'd find myself going
<v Speaker 1>out there all the time trying to get more and
<v Speaker 1>more answers. Well, I still go out there still to
<v Speaker 1>this day, and like you said, I'll go out there
<v Speaker 1>as soon as the sun comes up, and I'll be
<v Speaker 1>out there when it goes down.
<v Speaker 3>Yep.
<v Speaker 1>So you're the first person that I've heard that does
<v Speaker 1>the same thing that I do and takes the same approach.
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's important for people to to realize
<v Speaker 1>that you have to go out there and kind of
<v Speaker 1>be connected with nature and be doing something other than
<v Speaker 1>just trying to find bigfoot. You know, with the camera
<v Speaker 1>and all this gear, it takes a lot more than that.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Yeah, like I had, I had some bigfoot researchers
<v Speaker 3>that I had talked to Telby. You know, you need
<v Speaker 3>to get these parabolic mics and you need to get this.
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, dude, I'm broke, Like I'm poor, I
<v Speaker 3>don't I don't have money like you do. I don't
<v Speaker 3>have a college degree. Like I'm just a normal person.
<v Speaker 3>And because at first I really was trying to prove
<v Speaker 3>it to people, I was hell bent on showing them like, look,
<v Speaker 3>these are real because people were making fun of me
<v Speaker 3>so bad, and I could like, I'm an awesome storyteller
<v Speaker 3>and I get very like emotive or I don't know
<v Speaker 3>what word you would use. So I think some people
<v Speaker 3>have told me that that kind of makes me not
<v Speaker 3>credible in their eyes. But I'm just excited about it.
<v Speaker 3>So when I when I get excited about something, I'm
<v Speaker 3>gonna You're gonna know it. You know. I can't hide
<v Speaker 3>my emotions like that. And so people were making fun
<v Speaker 3>of me, and I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna
<v Speaker 3>prove it to you. Well, I only had a cell phone.
<v Speaker 3>I did buy an audio recorder, just like a cheap
<v Speaker 3>like olympus, you know, audio recorder, and I tried that,
<v Speaker 3>but I would never get anything. It wasn't until I
<v Speaker 3>started I basically said to myself, you know, what, it's
<v Speaker 3>not gonna work. I know they're here. I'm just gonna
<v Speaker 3>be out nature and enjoy myself. Because it got to
<v Speaker 3>the point where I would, I don't know, it got stressful,
<v Speaker 3>trying and failing, and I was forgetting that I'm in
<v Speaker 3>the middle of one of the most beautiful places on
<v Speaker 3>this planet, in these old growth for us that are
<v Speaker 3>absolutely majestic and beautiful. And why are you wasting your
<v Speaker 3>time doing that when you know they're here. Just be
<v Speaker 3>with them, Just be you know. And so I started
<v Speaker 3>doing it, and I started I would look for mushrooms
<v Speaker 3>every season of the year that I could, Even if
<v Speaker 3>it was snowing outside, I would still go out there.
<v Speaker 3>I'd borrow my mom's truck or something that had four
<v Speaker 3>wheel drive, and I'd go up there. We went up
<v Speaker 3>shooting one time with my dad and there was snow
<v Speaker 3>on the ground. We could only get so far. But
<v Speaker 3>just being up there is magical, and it's even better
<v Speaker 3>when they're actually there. I mean, it got to the
<v Speaker 3>point where I liken it to the Western Lowland gorillas.
<v Speaker 3>They kind of just sit around all day eating and chilling,
<v Speaker 3>like they're just chillax it in the forest or the
<v Speaker 3>jungle or whatever and eating. They might get up and
<v Speaker 3>walk to a different area or whatever, but for the
<v Speaker 3>most part, that's what they do, and in my experience,
<v Speaker 3>it was always by this one area I'm talking about.
<v Speaker 3>The water was a couple hundred feet away, and they
<v Speaker 3>liked that area. There was enough cover so they could
<v Speaker 3>conceal themselves, they could get to water. There was plenty
<v Speaker 3>of food, be it berries. There was a couple of
<v Speaker 3>nut wild nut trees, bushrooms, of course, So I just
<v Speaker 3>kind of would go out and take pictures of flowers
<v Speaker 3>and pick netals or whatever it was that I was picking.
<v Speaker 3>I'm also a rockhound, so I would look for rocks
<v Speaker 3>by the river. They would throw and the river at me,
<v Speaker 3>not at me. They would never hit me, but I
<v Speaker 3>could hear them around. I could hear them moving around.
<v Speaker 3>I could hear them making noise. In fact, one time
<v Speaker 3>I heard them talking like the Cierra sounds. And at
<v Speaker 3>the time I did not know what the Cierra sounds were.
<v Speaker 3>But I was up there with my brother and his friend,
<v Speaker 3>and the river was really high. It was at the springtime,
<v Speaker 3>and so it was really loud and I hear it
<v Speaker 3>reminds me of if you know, the noise that you
<v Speaker 3>get when you're at like a baseball game, but you're
<v Speaker 3>listening to it on the radio, kind of like the
<v Speaker 3>roar of the crowd type thing. That's kind of what
<v Speaker 3>it sounded like out there because the river was so high.
<v Speaker 3>And I do realize that acoustics get weird out there,
<v Speaker 3>but I was hearing this talking, and I thought, well,
<v Speaker 3>maybe there's guys in the woods, like loggers or something.
<v Speaker 3>Because at the end of this one forest service road,
<v Speaker 3>it eventually turned into pavement and they were doing construction
<v Speaker 3>on the pavement, and so I thought, well, maybe it
<v Speaker 3>was them. Well, but they were walking through the woods
<v Speaker 3>and they were making a lot of noise, like crashing
<v Speaker 3>through the woods like a herd of elk would do.
<v Speaker 3>And I was standing there. My brother and his friend
<v Speaker 3>were closer to it. I was over by my car
<v Speaker 3>on the gravel road, and they were on the right
<v Speaker 3>side of that road and they were coming towards that road,
<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden they stopped. I think they
<v Speaker 3>heard us, or at least heard my brother, and they
<v Speaker 3>made this it's hard to explain. It's like a like
<v Speaker 3>a buck snort, but way bigger. But it was an exhaling,
<v Speaker 3>and it was. It kind of reminded me of I
<v Speaker 3>don't know if you've ever seen bear when they go
<v Speaker 3>up on their hide legs and they pound their front
<v Speaker 3>legs on the ground and they huff. That's what it
<v Speaker 3>reminded me of. So at first I'm like, oh, crap,
<v Speaker 3>it's a bear and he's mad.
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you real quick.
<v Speaker 1>Was it like a grunt, kind of like a deer
<v Speaker 1>and then the exhale? Is that how it was?
<v Speaker 3>It was all at the same time, okay, which was
<v Speaker 3>weird to me, Like, I can't, I can't replicate it.
<v Speaker 3>I don't. I like it's At first I thought, oh,
<v Speaker 3>it was an elk. Because of the noise, I thought, okay, there.
<v Speaker 3>I've had herds of elk come from the right side
<v Speaker 3>of that road when I was picking mushrooms and crossed
<v Speaker 3>that road going towards the river before. I've been stored
<v Speaker 3>it at by an elk. I've been screamed at by deers.
<v Speaker 3>I've been screamed at by elks. I've seen bears. I've
<v Speaker 3>heard bears vocalize. There is a mountain lion in that
<v Speaker 3>area that I saw two years in a row. He
<v Speaker 3>comes and makes the same like loop into this one
<v Speaker 3>campground after the campground closes for the season, and like clockwork,
<v Speaker 3>he was there making noises. I even got to hear
<v Speaker 3>him purr, which up until then, I didn't really think
<v Speaker 3>about the lion's purring. I mean, I've heard animal noises
<v Speaker 3>in the woods. I've seen them. This was not that
<v Speaker 3>it And but it happened so fast. All these things
<v Speaker 3>were going through my head. Okay, it's elk, the elk
<v Speaker 3>store did No, it's a bear, because he's pounded the ground.
<v Speaker 3>But the pounding after the first pound, there was more
<v Speaker 3>pounds that came like really fast, and it reminded me
<v Speaker 3>of when gorillas beat their chests. But it wasn't that noise.
<v Speaker 3>It was a little bit different. So and I felt
<v Speaker 3>the ground. Hey, I was a good I don't know,
<v Speaker 3>maybe thirty forty feet away ish Maybe I don't. I'm
<v Speaker 3>not good all that good with distance, but it wasn't
<v Speaker 3>too far away. And I felt the ground when it
<v Speaker 3>was pounding, and I my brother and his friend heard it.
<v Speaker 3>They you know, twisted their necks around to look at me,
<v Speaker 3>and their jaws were dropped and their eyes were wide,
<v Speaker 3>and I just made emotion like get over here now,
<v Speaker 3>with my hand and my finger pointing to the ground,
<v Speaker 3>like get over here now. So they because they were
<v Speaker 3>the closest to this noise, so they come over. We
<v Speaker 3>all get in my car and we just sit there
<v Speaker 3>and we're like what talking about it, like what was that?
<v Speaker 3>What was that? And I'm like, I don't know. I
<v Speaker 3>think it might have been a bear, but I'm not sure.
<v Speaker 3>And every time these experiences would happen to me, I
<v Speaker 3>like I was growled at. I'll tell you about that
<v Speaker 3>in a minute. But I would go online and look
<v Speaker 3>at animal noises, listen to them, to their vocalizations, even
<v Speaker 3>animals that I knew that weren't in our country, you know,
<v Speaker 3>like that were only in Africa or Australia or you
<v Speaker 3>know wherever. And I could never find anything specific. But
<v Speaker 3>we never saw them, but I heard them and it
<v Speaker 3>was like they were speaking. It was almost like gibberish
<v Speaker 3>and mumbling at the same time, but it sounded like
<v Speaker 3>a language, but it didn't sound like a language that
<v Speaker 3>I had ever heard of. And it was so fast,
<v Speaker 3>and there was at least two of them, and they
<v Speaker 3>were talking back and forth like you would if me
<v Speaker 3>and you were walking through the woods having a conversation
<v Speaker 3>is what it sounded like. But they weren't louder, of course,
<v Speaker 3>they weren't trying to be loud, like, they weren't talking
<v Speaker 3>with their voices. Raise that was like their normal voices.
<v Speaker 3>It was just like a casual conversation until they realized
<v Speaker 3>that we were there and that they started huffing and
<v Speaker 3>puffing and pounding. I don't know if they were pounding
<v Speaker 3>the ground, if they were beating their chests, what they
<v Speaker 3>were doing, but they made it clear to us get
<v Speaker 3>away and we got in our car. That was really scary.
<v Speaker 2>But the people never.
<v Speaker 1>Saw them the whole time. You can't see them. They're
<v Speaker 1>like right at the edge of the woods where you
<v Speaker 1>can't see any further. Correct, they're getting like right at
<v Speaker 1>that line most well.
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes, yeah, sometimes I have seen them. Like the more
<v Speaker 3>I got used to them, or that I should say,
<v Speaker 3>the more that they got used to me being out there,
<v Speaker 3>because like I said, would I would be out there
<v Speaker 3>every single day all day. I might go into town
<v Speaker 3>to the store to get something, but i'd come right back.
<v Speaker 1>I mean in that area when they're pushing down trees
<v Speaker 1>and doing the thumping sounds like.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're right at the tree line, but you can't
<v Speaker 3>see them.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I mean they might be.
<v Speaker 3>Within thirty fifty feet somewhere there within the tree line.
<v Speaker 3>But they're so big and they're so loud, it seems
<v Speaker 3>like they're right there.
<v Speaker 2>It's what it sounds like. Have you tried to walk
<v Speaker 2>to that spot after they do it it?
<v Speaker 3>I have, actually, and it's so thick like the area.
<v Speaker 3>There's lots of vine maples, there's lots of Oregon grape,
<v Speaker 3>there's ferns, there's lots of stuff on the ground. So
<v Speaker 3>it's impossible. I mean, we would see indentations, but that thing. Besides,
<v Speaker 3>I mean I have found a few tracks, but those
<v Speaker 3>were like the one track up on the cliff to
<v Speaker 3>the right side of that road. It was a mossy area,
<v Speaker 3>and so there was an indentation, a footprint shaped indentation
<v Speaker 3>in the moths. But I kind of I mostly look
<v Speaker 3>at the trees and the branches as much as I
<v Speaker 3>look at the ground for rocks and bushrooms and stuff.
<v Speaker 3>I've only ever seen a few actual footprints. The most
<v Speaker 3>I would see was from the trees. They will braid
<v Speaker 3>the trees, young appleagues deciduous trees they will braid. It's
<v Speaker 3>like they bring them all together at the top and
<v Speaker 3>they braid them and weave them at the top. I
<v Speaker 3>don't know how they do it, but it's awesome. And
<v Speaker 3>of course the area around it is flattened down, but
<v Speaker 3>you couldn't tell if it was actually from people walking
<v Speaker 3>or if a deer or something else was bedded down
<v Speaker 3>right there, because the brush is just so thick, you know.
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it would always be I would say, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>like maybe one hundred feet up most away from the
<v Speaker 3>tree lined where the visual evidence.
<v Speaker 1>Now, they do get closer than that, but you mentioned
<v Speaker 1>earlier that you just don't realize it when they're getting
<v Speaker 1>that close. Sometimes they pop in and out and it's
<v Speaker 1>like when you got your back turned or when you're
<v Speaker 1>not looking.
<v Speaker 2>But if you take photos.
<v Speaker 1>Around you, yes you'll see more than what you say
<v Speaker 1>all with the naked eye.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, they are like I joke and say that they're
<v Speaker 3>like forest ninjas because you could have one two feet
<v Speaker 3>away from you and not even know it if you're
<v Speaker 3>in thick brush. Like it's At first that that idea
<v Speaker 3>terrified me because every time I would have like a
<v Speaker 3>really close encounter I would say, I'm never going into
<v Speaker 3>the woods again. I'm so stupid for being out here
<v Speaker 3>by myself. And then of course i'd get over it,
<v Speaker 3>because it is when you actually see them, it's terrifying
<v Speaker 3>because you don't know what you're looking at, and they're
<v Speaker 3>so big that you don't know what they're going to do.
<v Speaker 3>Like if they wanted to kill you, they could be
<v Speaker 3>to you within a second. You'd be dead. So that
<v Speaker 3>that idea terrified me a lot. But if you stop
<v Speaker 3>and think, like especially for me, with all the encounters
<v Speaker 3>that I've had, they obviously don't want to kill me,
<v Speaker 3>because otherwise I would be dead already, you know what
<v Speaker 3>I mean. But they will bluff charge. I've been bluff charged.
<v Speaker 3>I've had rocks and sticks thrown at me. I had
<v Speaker 3>one growl at me from thirty feet away. I was
<v Speaker 3>picking chantrelle. I was squatted down on the ground picking
<v Speaker 3>chantrells on this little like dirt mound, and the woodline
<v Speaker 3>was to the back of me, about thirty feet away.
<v Speaker 3>And I was there for fifteen twenty minutes picking mushrooms
<v Speaker 3>with my back turned, singing and humming to myself and
<v Speaker 3>just having fun. And I get up I turn around
<v Speaker 3>and I'm looking at the tree line, and I'm like,
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go in right there and go look
<v Speaker 3>and see if there's any more mushrooms. So I start
<v Speaker 3>making a beeline for this area that I'm looking at.
<v Speaker 3>I took me not even three steps and this thing
<v Speaker 3>growled at me so loud. My knees buckled. I started
<v Speaker 3>to black out. The sound reverberated through my whole body.
<v Speaker 3>Like it it's like if you've ever been to a
<v Speaker 3>concert and you're like right by the speakers and the
<v Speaker 3>base from the speakers just goes through your whole body.
<v Speaker 3>That's kind of like what it felt like. It was
<v Speaker 3>so loud. It scared a grouse out of the trees
<v Speaker 3>from like I don't know, it was like maybe five
<v Speaker 3>six feet up and it flew out of the trees.
<v Speaker 3>Scared me to death. But this thing, I couldn't see it.
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't see it. I stood there at first. I
<v Speaker 3>thought it was a mountain lion, and I'm like, thinking,
<v Speaker 3>cabre are so dumb for being in this place. Just
<v Speaker 3>get out. I walked backwards all the way down. It
<v Speaker 3>was like an old forest service cut that they they
<v Speaker 3>stopped making the road so it was all overgrown. I
<v Speaker 3>walked backwards and it was uphill, so I walked backwards
<v Speaker 3>all the way downhill to the paved Forest Service road,
<v Speaker 3>and then down the hill from there backwards down to
<v Speaker 3>where I had parked my car, and I because I
<v Speaker 3>thought for sure something was gonna, you know, come out
<v Speaker 3>and eat me. And I sat there forever in my
<v Speaker 3>car freaking out. And that's what I've looked up online,
<v Speaker 3>you know, all the animals, and the only thing that
<v Speaker 3>came even close was a Western Lowland gorilla. To the growl.
<v Speaker 3>It was so low and guttural, like a I don't know,
<v Speaker 3>like a crocodile, a lion t rex, all at the
<v Speaker 3>same time, but different. It's hard to explain. It was loud.
<v Speaker 2>Okay.
<v Speaker 1>Now A key point, or a key question I have
<v Speaker 1>is do you feel that they're connected with the Chantrell mushrooms?
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Definitely, yeah, I do too. Yeah. You can find them.
<v Speaker 3>You can where there's food, water and shelter, you will
<v Speaker 3>find them. But the most important for me is water
<v Speaker 3>because they're always by the water. They're always by the
<v Speaker 3>there's always if if you're paying attention, like I don't know,
<v Speaker 3>I sometimes feel weird because I had so many encounters
<v Speaker 3>with them, and there's some people that search their whole
<v Speaker 3>lives and they never get to see one. And I
<v Speaker 3>started wondering, like, is this paranormal? Is? Like what's going on?
<v Speaker 3>Because why am I having so many experiences? But I
<v Speaker 3>think it is. Location has a lot to do.
<v Speaker 2>With it, really does.
<v Speaker 3>Because I've never, like I've experienced paranormal stuff in my
<v Speaker 3>life like scary I've dabbled in in the past. I've
<v Speaker 3>dabbled in voodoo and witchcraft and ouija boards and seances
<v Speaker 3>and automatic writing and all that kind of stuff when
<v Speaker 3>I was younger. I've seen paranormal apparitions. I've seen orbs,
<v Speaker 3>I've seen that kind of stuff, But I've never had
<v Speaker 3>any paranormal activity with the Bigfoots, right, It's always been.
<v Speaker 2>Separate themselves and you've then you have see and.
<v Speaker 3>I thought about that too, because, like I said, I've
<v Speaker 3>seen so many of them, so are they paranormal? And
<v Speaker 3>then there's you get these people that are talking about
<v Speaker 3>they can mind and speak and they disappear they come
<v Speaker 3>from a UFO. And I'm like, Okay, well I've not
<v Speaker 3>experienced that. Okay, I can't. I can't discount those other people's.
<v Speaker 1>It's my thing is like you said, you know that
<v Speaker 1>spirits are real, you've experienced it, and you know bigfoot
<v Speaker 1>is too. But with the mind speak, it's hard to say, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>maybe they did experience it, but how do we know
<v Speaker 1>that's not some type of demonic presence messing with them
<v Speaker 1>saying yep, you know on Bigfoot exactly. But this is
<v Speaker 1>what I am, you know, because they don't. You know,
<v Speaker 1>I believe if the government really does dabble with bad stuff,
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it is connected. You know, it even
<v Speaker 1>says in the Bible that, you know, the devil is
<v Speaker 1>connected in government science and all that. But if that's true,
<v Speaker 1>you know, they wouldn't want us to know this either, right.
<v Speaker 3>And see, And that's funny you say that because I
<v Speaker 3>got saved in twenty ten. So I mean I used
<v Speaker 3>to be really a bad person, like a totally different
<v Speaker 3>life than the life that I have now. I used
<v Speaker 3>to do really bad stuff and mess with really bad people.
<v Speaker 3>So I got saved in twenty ten. And in twenty
<v Speaker 3>ten is when I first saw a bigfoot, and then
<v Speaker 3>I saw I had all these experiences with them. And
<v Speaker 3>for a while I was thinking Okay, maybe they are paranormal,
<v Speaker 3>And then I thought, like you just said, well, it's
<v Speaker 3>probably demons disguising themselves as bigfoots to mess with the
<v Speaker 3>bigfoot people, because you have to admit, once you've seen them,
<v Speaker 3>it kind of takes over your whole life. Like there's
<v Speaker 3>people that they'll see one and then they will devote
<v Speaker 3>the rest of their lives to searching for them.
<v Speaker 2>That's right, and they get obsessed with it.
<v Speaker 3>Well, to me, not to get like super spiritual or
<v Speaker 3>religious or anything, but I am a Christian and to me,
<v Speaker 3>the devil's sole purpose is to lead you away from Christ,
<v Speaker 3>whether you're saved or not. He's not really going to
<v Speaker 3>pay attention to the people that don't know God because
<v Speaker 3>they're already off doing their own thing. It's the people
<v Speaker 3>that don't that can be led astray because I mean,
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna sit until the day we die. So it's
<v Speaker 3>not like we're awesome because we're saved. We're still imperfect people,
<v Speaker 3>so we can be led astray by things. So I
<v Speaker 3>often wonder, is it, you know, demons that are leading
<v Speaker 3>me astray? And I'm like, well, all the encounters I've
<v Speaker 3>had with them have not been paranormal. That's not to
<v Speaker 3>say that it's still not demons, but it's hard for
<v Speaker 3>me to It's hard for me to grasp that because
<v Speaker 3>they look they look private, but they they's very real.
<v Speaker 3>The intelligence in them, which which we would equate that
<v Speaker 3>to human because they're way more they're way smarter than
<v Speaker 3>great apes, great apes.
<v Speaker 2>Well, let me ask you. Let me ask you a question.
<v Speaker 1>Since everything that you're saying is like identical to me,
<v Speaker 1>even like your thoughts and theories and just your overall
<v Speaker 1>thought process, do you feel that maybe with your past
<v Speaker 1>and the way you were living, that God revealed these
<v Speaker 1>creatures to you to maybe change you and give you
<v Speaker 1>something else to look forward in life, Like the Bigfoots
<v Speaker 1>came spiritually for a reason, I guess that's a better
<v Speaker 1>way to say it, not just because you randomly came
<v Speaker 1>across them in the woods, Like they came at the
<v Speaker 1>right time in your life and it affected you to
<v Speaker 1>where it changed you either in a positive way or
<v Speaker 1>in a negative way.
<v Speaker 3>Actually, yeah, because I'll go ahead and say this. I
<v Speaker 3>used to sell drugs for a living, Okay, So I
<v Speaker 3>hug around gang members, I hung around drug dealers, robbers, killers,
<v Speaker 3>Like I was a bad person, and I was around
<v Speaker 3>a very bad crowd. When I got saved at twenty ten,
<v Speaker 3>I realized I had to stop doing that, Like I
<v Speaker 3>can't live like this anymore. I can't dress like this anymore.
<v Speaker 3>I like, I can't be like that anymore. Not because
<v Speaker 3>it was the thing to do, because now I'm a Christian.
<v Speaker 3>Because when I got saved, it was God saving me
<v Speaker 3>against my best wishes, if that makes sense, Like it
<v Speaker 3>was totally him. It wasn't anything that I did. So
<v Speaker 3>but when you get saved, he kind of opened your
<v Speaker 3>eyes and you're like you realize the folly of your
<v Speaker 3>ways and your sin, and you're like, yeah, I can't
<v Speaker 3>live like this anymore. So it was.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you're realizing your downfall, and are you going
<v Speaker 1>out to the forest to kind of get away from that?
<v Speaker 2>Use that as a well, that's kind of what happened.
<v Speaker 3>I went to It was oddly enough, one of my clients,
<v Speaker 3>for lack of a better word, had been murdered, and
<v Speaker 3>his brother asked me to come up to the beach
<v Speaker 3>because every fourth of July they would have all their
<v Speaker 3>family would get together and they would camp out. They
<v Speaker 3>had a beach house and they would go crabbing and
<v Speaker 3>you know, all this stuff, and they're like, please come,
<v Speaker 3>he would have wanted you to come, and I'm like,
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Well, I decided to go, and there
<v Speaker 3>I met this guy and I had just gotten out
<v Speaker 3>of a really abusive psycho relationship, and I met this
<v Speaker 3>girl that I used to go to school with, and
<v Speaker 3>there was this guy there and we kind of hit
<v Speaker 3>it off, and he was the one that brought me
<v Speaker 3>out to the woods to meet some of his family
<v Speaker 3>members and we were camping and doing all that kind
<v Speaker 3>of stuff, and then that kind of didn't work out
<v Speaker 3>between us, but I stayed out there and it was
<v Speaker 3>actually with that guy that I had met at the beach.
<v Speaker 3>That's when I first saw Bigfoot. And I think that
<v Speaker 3>me being out there and staying out there kept me
<v Speaker 3>from going back to my old job, if you know
<v Speaker 3>what I mean, Like it kept me. It kept me
<v Speaker 3>away from the people that I needed to be away from,
<v Speaker 3>and it kept me occupied with do and I had
<v Speaker 3>the money to be able to be out in the
<v Speaker 3>woods for a year, you know what I mean. So
<v Speaker 3>I do believe that that was God, because I was
<v Speaker 3>very When you go from being very, very wealthy too broke.
<v Speaker 3>It's very humbling and humiliating, and you can't do the
<v Speaker 3>things that you used to do. So I had the
<v Speaker 3>money to do it. I often wanted to go back
<v Speaker 3>to that lifestyle for the money because I lost all
<v Speaker 3>of these things. But I do believe that he kept
<v Speaker 3>me from doing that by being in the woods. And
<v Speaker 3>had I not seen Bigfoot, I don't think that I
<v Speaker 3>would have been out there as beautiful as it is
<v Speaker 3>and is. I mean, I grew up in the woods.
<v Speaker 3>All my uncles are fishermen and hunters. My dad like,
<v Speaker 3>I grew up like that, camping and fishing. But I
<v Speaker 3>had gotten away from it because I moved to the city.
<v Speaker 3>And but once I went back into the woods, I realized, gosh,
<v Speaker 3>this place is magical and beautiful and you're away from
<v Speaker 3>the hubbub of life. And you know, but if I
<v Speaker 3>still wouldn't have been out there as much as I
<v Speaker 3>was if I had not Bigfoot.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that makes complete sense. And that's how it
<v Speaker 1>was for me. You know, I didn't really have any money,
<v Speaker 1>and I was going out there and just trying to
<v Speaker 1>get away from all my problems, and it seemed like
<v Speaker 1>the woods was you know the best cure for that
<v Speaker 1>at the time. And then once I had my experiences,
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was hooked. And for me once I
<v Speaker 1>saw them, because I was having strange things happened too.
<v Speaker 1>You know, my life was, you know, at its worst point,
<v Speaker 1>and I was trying to find a way out. When
<v Speaker 1>I did see the Bigfoots, especially the second time, it
<v Speaker 1>really confirmed to me. Like one of my first thoughts
<v Speaker 1>when I was looking at it was that God was
<v Speaker 1>real for sure. One because you have all these people saying,
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not real, Bigfoots, just a big scam,
<v Speaker 1>and you know, you look at past stories, you know,
<v Speaker 1>kind of like with Jesus, they said the same thing.
<v Speaker 2>You know, even people today it's just a scam, you know.
<v Speaker 1>So once you see this, you realize that all those
<v Speaker 1>people don't know what they're talking about exactly. Your entire
<v Speaker 1>brain just shifts everything, like the way you look at
<v Speaker 1>the news, the media, even doctors when they're trying to
<v Speaker 1>prescribe you medications. Like for me, I'm like, I can't,
<v Speaker 1>I can't trust you, Like I don't care what you're saying.
<v Speaker 3>Like same dude, totally say.
<v Speaker 2>It beats it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm like I'm not going to take that pill
<v Speaker 3>that has like fifty million side effects just to cure
<v Speaker 3>one thing. What I'm going to have to take fifty
<v Speaker 3>other pills for all the fifty side effects that one
<v Speaker 3>pill caused. Yeah, don't get me started on that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, you have to once you see them, it is.
<v Speaker 3>It is a life changing experience. You can't go back.
<v Speaker 3>You can't see that, you can't forget about it. I
<v Speaker 3>know that there's people that do or try to, and
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of people that won't talk about it,
<v Speaker 3>but you would be surprised if you just ask people.
<v Speaker 3>Like we were in North Carolina. My husband's family is
<v Speaker 3>from North Carolina, and we were visiting his granny and
<v Speaker 3>she lives in the Smoky mountains, like literally on the
<v Speaker 3>side of a mountain. And I was in a really
<v Speaker 3>small town and I was asking people have said, do
<v Speaker 3>you have any bigfoot stories? Have you heard a big foot?
<v Speaker 3>And everybody, of course was kind of looking at me
<v Speaker 3>cock eyed, but there was lots of people that were
<v Speaker 3>telling me about their experiences. And the same goes for
<v Speaker 3>at home in Washington State or Oregon. You will get
<v Speaker 3>some people that will be like, oh, no, I haven't
<v Speaker 3>seen them or no, I won't talk about it, but
<v Speaker 3>more often than not, if you're I don't know, some
<v Speaker 3>people don't act right. I think they're kind of fake,
<v Speaker 3>and I'm not a fake person. I don't do fake.
<v Speaker 3>I call it how it is. I am who I am,
<v Speaker 3>And so I think that helps a little bit when
<v Speaker 3>asking people, because I'll just flat out go up and
<v Speaker 3>ask people, and you would be surprised at the amount
<v Speaker 3>of people that have had sightings, especially in the Pacific Northwest,
<v Speaker 3>that you just have to ask. So like, for all
<v Speaker 3>the people that I don't know, they might be too embarrassed.
<v Speaker 3>I really don't have any shame anymore. The older I get,
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yeah, I don't care. I don't care what
<v Speaker 3>you think of me, don't care what you think about
<v Speaker 3>what I wear. I just don't care, you know, So
<v Speaker 3>I ask, and knowledge is power, so ask. But yeah,
<v Speaker 3>they you can't unsee them, you can't forget it, and
<v Speaker 3>it makes you want to know what they are. I
<v Speaker 3>personally don't know. I tend to think because I'm a Christian,
<v Speaker 3>I don't believe that we evolved from apes. Yeah we
<v Speaker 3>share the same DNA, but we also share the same
<v Speaker 3>DNA with a mosquito. So I unless it's something biblical
<v Speaker 3>like the descendants of Cain or the Nephilim, I could
<v Speaker 3>buy that, but I don't. All the experiences I've had
<v Speaker 3>with them tell me that they are an undiscovered primate,
<v Speaker 3>but they're highly intelligent. I could be wrong, and if
<v Speaker 3>I'm wrong, I'm totally okay with being wrong. There's a
<v Speaker 3>lot of bigfoot people out there that are set in
<v Speaker 3>their ways. This is what it is, and I know
<v Speaker 3>what I'm talking about, and I that just rubs me
<v Speaker 3>the wrong way. I don't.
<v Speaker 1>That's why my name's sasquatch theory. Some people get mad,
<v Speaker 1>They're like, why is it called theory? It's not really
<v Speaker 1>a theory. Aren't you saying you know what you saw?
<v Speaker 1>But that's the thing. You have all these people saying
<v Speaker 1>it's this, it's that, or we don't know, or it's paranormal.
<v Speaker 1>So even if you saw them, you don't know where
<v Speaker 1>they're coming from, how they're living exactly. You know, like,
<v Speaker 1>there's still so many more questions when you see him,
<v Speaker 1>just you just have more questions.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like me, they look like apes, but because they
<v Speaker 3>walk on two legs, they look human. You could look
<v Speaker 3>in their eyes and you can see that they're intelligent.
<v Speaker 3>Like I can look at a gorilla and I can
<v Speaker 3>see that he's intelligent. But bigfoots are on at that
<v Speaker 3>whole other level, Like they're way more intelligent than apes.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they can really talk. I don't
<v Speaker 3>know if they really have leg which or not. I
<v Speaker 3>just know what I heard and what I saw m M,
<v Speaker 3>so I can say, yeah, my opinion based on my
<v Speaker 3>experiences is that it's an undiscovered primate that's way more
<v Speaker 3>intelligent than apes or chimps. But then you have these
<v Speaker 3>other people that are saying that bigfoot talk to them,
<v Speaker 3>and they've seen them coming out of UFOs and they
<v Speaker 3>get zapped at all this other stuff. I'm not necessarily
<v Speaker 3>discounting those, but I can't really offer an opinion audit
<v Speaker 3>because I haven't experienced it. Some of the people are
<v Speaker 3>just whack jobs in my opinion.
<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, they distort the subject.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but there's other people that are genuine saying people
<v Speaker 3>down to earth people that say that they've experienced that stuff.
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing is, like, you know, I try to
<v Speaker 1>be nice to these people that, you know, say it's
<v Speaker 1>you know they're coming from a UFO.
<v Speaker 2>Or their nephelom.
<v Speaker 1>But you know they they tell me exactly how it is,
<v Speaker 1>and they got a whole book and they send me pages.
<v Speaker 1>This is why they're doing this, This is why you
<v Speaker 1>can't do that. But the reality is, you know they're
<v Speaker 1>they're telling me, this is why you don't find any evidence.
<v Speaker 2>This is why you don't get any pictures.
<v Speaker 1>Well, for one, I'm showing evidence where I'm getting sounds
<v Speaker 1>and vocalizations. I'm checking that area and I'm finding huge
<v Speaker 1>structures and I'm showing that.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't they Like the one person I was
<v Speaker 3>telling you about that was a bigfoot researcher that I
<v Speaker 3>was asking for advice. They were telling me get parabolic
<v Speaker 3>microphones and get all that stuff, and yeah, if you're
<v Speaker 3>really serious about it, like like you are, then go
<v Speaker 3>for it, do all that, like try. But for me,
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I don't have the money to do that,
<v Speaker 3>I don't have the timee to do that. Like eventually
<v Speaker 3>it's going to need to get a job to take
<v Speaker 3>care of myself. You know now that I'm not doing
<v Speaker 3>what I used to do. And I kind of got
<v Speaker 3>in the mind frame of like excuse my language, but basically, like,
<v Speaker 3>screw you. I'm not going to prove anything to you
<v Speaker 3>because of your attitude, you know what I mean. Like
<v Speaker 3>I've seen them. I know they're real, and if you
<v Speaker 3>don't believe me, but you're asking me, Like when I
<v Speaker 3>had Facebook, I would post pictures and they're like, we
<v Speaker 3>need before and after pictures and this and that, and
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, okay, so I think there was one where
<v Speaker 3>I actually did go back specifically because they asked to
<v Speaker 3>take after pictures.
<v Speaker 2>Facebook's the worst.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's like asking a bunch of demons with
<v Speaker 1>what they think. You know, I'm not saying they are,
<v Speaker 1>but just the critical people in there, right, even if
<v Speaker 1>you had a perfect picture, they're going to say it bes.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because like I have a lot of blob squatch photos.
<v Speaker 3>I'm not even gonna lie and like but because I've
<v Speaker 3>encountered them and I knew that they were there, I
<v Speaker 3>know that that that's what they are. Now some of
<v Speaker 3>them you can't really tell, but there's some where it's like,
<v Speaker 3>well it's shaped like a big foot. And the thing
<v Speaker 3>is they love hiding in the shadows. So like if
<v Speaker 3>you get like thick vegetation and there's dark spots because
<v Speaker 3>of the shadows. That's where they're gonna be. They are
<v Speaker 3>masters at camouflage. They will be the little nooks and
<v Speaker 3>the crandies and the places where you just glance over
<v Speaker 3>with your eyes because you think it's just shade. It's dark,
<v Speaker 3>it's too dark to see it there. That's where they're
<v Speaker 3>going to be.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's the thing, even with blurry pictures, you know,
<v Speaker 1>nobody really knows except for the person that took it.
<v Speaker 1>You know, they're the ones that experience it. So it's
<v Speaker 1>hard to say, yeah, I completely understand what you mean
<v Speaker 1>by equipment. I make like ten fifty an hour and
<v Speaker 1>it's not even a full time job. But yeah, money's rough, and.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah it's it's expensive to buy.
<v Speaker 2>It really is.
<v Speaker 1>And even if you had it all, like, to capture
<v Speaker 1>something when it happens is hard to do.
<v Speaker 2>You know.
<v Speaker 1>If you get screamed at, it's like, oh now I'm
<v Speaker 1>gonna pull out the parabolic microphone. But it's like nothing
<v Speaker 1>else happens. The wood's dead after that, like you just
<v Speaker 1>missed it. So now you go out there to that
<v Speaker 1>same spot, let's say, for a whole year, and you
<v Speaker 1>don't get nothing. I mean, maybe you hurt a knock
<v Speaker 1>or something and just had little things, But then again
<v Speaker 1>you didn't.
<v Speaker 2>You weren't ready, right, So it is tough.
<v Speaker 3>It's impossible. It's almost impossible to do like audio I
<v Speaker 3>think would be the best bet audio, But still they're
<v Speaker 3>gonna there's some skeptics that you will literally have to
<v Speaker 3>put a dead big foot in front of them and
<v Speaker 3>like rub their nose in it before they would believe.
<v Speaker 3>And that's where I'm like, I, why do I care
<v Speaker 3>about people that I don't know, that don't pay my bills,
<v Speaker 3>that don't they aren't even friends with me? Why do
<v Speaker 3>I care about it if they believe me or not.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, only you know what I saw, and you shouldn't
<v Speaker 1>care what other people think.
<v Speaker 2>You know what you saw. They don't.
<v Speaker 3>But and I was going to ask you too, because
<v Speaker 3>I was listening. I didn't watch the whole thing, but
<v Speaker 3>I watched some of it when you were on Danielle's
<v Speaker 3>channel with Larry Batson and he was drawing the one
<v Speaker 3>that you saw, and you had mentioned to me that
<v Speaker 3>the juvenile one that you saw had a pointed head?
<v Speaker 3>Now did it? How juvenile? Was it? Like? Was it toddler.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was odd.
<v Speaker 1>I used to call him the baby sasquatch, but then
<v Speaker 1>I was like, man, I guess everyone says juve, so
<v Speaker 1>I would just call him a juvenile. But to me,
<v Speaker 1>it looked like a baby because like how tubby he was,
<v Speaker 1>and you know, like how babies have like the tubby
<v Speaker 1>shoulders and like forearms that just that baby look, even
<v Speaker 1>like when you see like a fond ear, like they
<v Speaker 1>have that bottle nose, Like that's how this thing was,
<v Speaker 1>and like it's looking its eyes were so innocent, like
<v Speaker 1>if you're looking into like a baby's eyes, you know
<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, you know that you're not looking into evil.
<v Speaker 1>Like this thing is innocent and it's just trying to
<v Speaker 1>live out there, right.
<v Speaker 3>And you said that one had a code shaped head.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it had a cone shaped head.
<v Speaker 1>But it was very gorilla like if you saw like
<v Speaker 1>a baby gorilla at the zoo.
<v Speaker 2>It was exactly like that, except the face.
<v Speaker 1>It looked like, you know, the baby gorilla is off Tarzan,
<v Speaker 1>the ones that go in the camp and tear up
<v Speaker 1>everything when nobody's in there and then when they come
<v Speaker 1>back it's a mess.
<v Speaker 2>It looked like that.
<v Speaker 1>The rose o'donald one like the big white eyes, but
<v Speaker 1>not not necessarily as goofy and cartoony like that.
<v Speaker 2>But let me describe it better, like.
<v Speaker 1>A gorilla looking face, but it had big white eyes
<v Speaker 1>and little black people's. But the skull went up about
<v Speaker 1>I would say, like two feet and it was massive,
<v Speaker 1>like the conical shaped head like it went up about
<v Speaker 1>like two feet above its eyes, like above its eyebrows.
<v Speaker 2>It was insane.
<v Speaker 3>That's a big baby, Okay. So that's because I've seen
<v Speaker 3>a baby. What I say, I I kind of equate
<v Speaker 3>it to humid age because that's the closest thing that
<v Speaker 3>I can easy. It's the easiest way to explain it.
<v Speaker 3>So the one that I saw then it must have
<v Speaker 3>been like literally like less than six months old.
<v Speaker 2>Oh so it was a baby baby, like a toddler.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because it looked like it does it does. It
<v Speaker 3>looks like a baby. It looks like a baby gorilla
<v Speaker 3>more than it does a baby chip.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>But see that one was like three or four years old,
<v Speaker 1>I would guess, and it was like four four foot tall.
<v Speaker 3>Dang. Okay, So because the one I saw was little,
<v Speaker 3>he was probably not even uh maybe two feet tall.
<v Speaker 3>If that maybe did you just.
<v Speaker 2>See him move or did you have like a face
<v Speaker 2>to face with them.
<v Speaker 3>Well, I knew that they were there. I was on
<v Speaker 3>the same road that I that I talked about. I
<v Speaker 3>knew they were there, and they were on the left
<v Speaker 3>side of the road, so I heard them, and I
<v Speaker 3>later I didn't realize this until after I got hold
<v Speaker 3>because I was taking pictures, but I was picking mushrooms.
<v Speaker 3>I heard them, I knew they were there. I figured
<v Speaker 3>that's who they were, but I did not act like
<v Speaker 3>I realized that they were there, if that makes any sense.
<v Speaker 3>I was just going about my business because I wanted
<v Speaker 3>them to get closer. And and what had happened. I
<v Speaker 3>saw a flash of something crossing the road and it
<v Speaker 3>was dark colored, but it was really small, and I'm like,
<v Speaker 3>that couldn't have been a big foot because it was
<v Speaker 3>too small. And I'm, you know, just thinking this in
<v Speaker 3>my heads. I'm continuing picking mushrooms and stuff. Well, I
<v Speaker 3>heard rustling on the left side of the road, and
<v Speaker 3>I was on the left side of the road, but
<v Speaker 3>this was like one hundred feet down for me, and
<v Speaker 3>it was on a part of the road that's a straightaway,
<v Speaker 3>so I could see straight down and I had a
<v Speaker 3>full view of both sides of the road.
<v Speaker 2>Mine was in July. What month was this real? Quick?
<v Speaker 1>Uh?
<v Speaker 3>This was in.
<v Speaker 2>Was it summertime?
<v Speaker 3>It was like late summer, I think.
<v Speaker 2>Was the baby alone?
<v Speaker 3>No, it was with its mom. But what had happened
<v Speaker 3>is they were both on the right side of the road.
<v Speaker 3>The baby being obnoxious wet across the left side of
<v Speaker 3>the road, climbed a tree wet to go hang on
<v Speaker 3>this branch and this this whole branch. This branch was
<v Speaker 3>like twenty feet long, but it was dead, so it
<v Speaker 3>broke off and fell, and I heard the crash, and
<v Speaker 3>by the time I looked over, I see the last
<v Speaker 3>part of the action of the branch actually hitting the
<v Speaker 3>ground and this black fake going it to the woods.
<v Speaker 3>Well I immediately at that point because this was closer
<v Speaker 3>than it had been, So I just start taking pictures
<v Speaker 3>and I get home. And now, granted I take lots
<v Speaker 3>of pictures, like all when I'm out there, all throughout
<v Speaker 3>the day, I'm taking tons of pictures, and then I
<v Speaker 3>go home and within the next day or so, I
<v Speaker 3>would look at the pictures or on my phone if
<v Speaker 3>I was, you know, staying out there I didn't see
<v Speaker 3>this until it had to have been the winter, because
<v Speaker 3>I got home. I put all the pictures from my
<v Speaker 3>phone on my computer and was looking through them on
<v Speaker 3>my computer screen, and I saw this female. Well this
<v Speaker 3>is what I assume. So I can't say for sure.
<v Speaker 3>I have the picture, but I can't say that that's
<v Speaker 3>what it is for sure. But this is what I see.
<v Speaker 3>It's obviously it looks like a gorilla sitting.
<v Speaker 2>Damn, I've one that looks just like that. I'm yeah kidding.
<v Speaker 3>It looks like a gorilla sitting on the forest floor
<v Speaker 3>on the right side of the road. And she was
<v Speaker 3>it was a she and the baby had crossed the road,
<v Speaker 3>climbed up, you know, playing being rabunctious. But she was sitting.
<v Speaker 3>It's not like she could walk across. And I got
<v Speaker 3>a picture of the baby. But it's so blobsquatchy and little.
<v Speaker 3>He was like you know how little kids, well, especially
<v Speaker 3>like little like monkeys, they'll like roll, do like somersaults
<v Speaker 3>and like have be in all these weird like contorted positions,
<v Speaker 3>just like playing around. I got a picture of that.
<v Speaker 3>So on the right side of the road is the
<v Speaker 3>mob and on the left side of the road. Is
<v Speaker 3>this baby at the edge of the woodline, and if
<v Speaker 3>you blow it up, it looks like a baby chip
<v Speaker 3>or a baby gorilla. They in a weird position, of course,
<v Speaker 3>But I went over there all my way out. I
<v Speaker 3>when I was driving by, I stopped by there to
<v Speaker 3>look to see, you know, was that a tree route?
<v Speaker 3>Was it? You know, something else? There wasn't anything else there.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I gotta tell you the story because I saw
<v Speaker 1>one just like that. And people aren't going to believe me.
<v Speaker 1>They're like, all right, you've seen too many. But at
<v Speaker 1>this point I don't care. I got to tell my
<v Speaker 1>stories because they're true.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I'd been going to my spot every morning, you know,
<v Speaker 1>all day, every time I could. Well, this was last
<v Speaker 1>year and it was in the middle of the summer,
<v Speaker 1>and I'd been sitting in the same spot. I set
<v Speaker 1>this area up, and I would just sit there every
<v Speaker 1>day and listen, listen to them would knock and move
<v Speaker 1>around and crash down trees, and I would do this
<v Speaker 1>all the time. Well, I made the decision that year
<v Speaker 1>that I wasn't going to walk around like I did
<v Speaker 1>last year, because I felt like that just got me
<v Speaker 1>less activity. So I've been sitting there for weeks, maybe
<v Speaker 1>even months, just every time to sit there, go there
<v Speaker 1>and just sit. Well, one day I was like, oh man,
<v Speaker 1>I'm wearing these croc shoes and those are the same
<v Speaker 1>ones I had when I had my sightings. Mind you,
<v Speaker 1>they're super quiet. It's like walking in socks or barefooted
<v Speaker 1>out in the forest. So I went down this trail
<v Speaker 1>and I did what what I was doing when I
<v Speaker 1>had my encounters. I would take like two or three
<v Speaker 1>quiet steps, as quiet as possible, and just stand there
<v Speaker 1>for five minutes and listen and observe and then take
<v Speaker 1>another few steps.
<v Speaker 2>Why I did that.
<v Speaker 1>And I got about fifty yards down the trail and
<v Speaker 1>I looked to my right or no, I get down
<v Speaker 1>about fifty yards down the trail and I hear this
<v Speaker 1>grunt call and I got this deer call right now,
<v Speaker 1>but it sounded like this, like you know, and I thought,
<v Speaker 1>what the heck is that a deer? And I looked
<v Speaker 1>over and all I saw was this thing take this
<v Speaker 1>huge breath like it was like loud. But when I
<v Speaker 1>saw him, it was early in the morning, so you
<v Speaker 1>could see his breath like it looked like it was
<v Speaker 1>a lot of like fog or you can see its breath.
<v Speaker 1>But when he did that, he did the grunt and
<v Speaker 1>then that blow, and I looked over at him and
<v Speaker 1>I thought, I saw exactly what's in your picture it.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was so quick that it just turned
<v Speaker 1>into a blur. And I don't know if it went
<v Speaker 1>left or right or just disappeared. I don't know if
<v Speaker 1>there was something paranormal. Yeah, it was so fast. There
<v Speaker 1>was no noise. It just looked like someone threw sand
<v Speaker 1>up in the air. It just disappeared.
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know.
<v Speaker 3>See the bears, bears could run fast, they could outrun humans.
<v Speaker 3>These things are faster than bears, Like I've never seen
<v Speaker 3>anything like it. Like maybe if I lived in Africa,
<v Speaker 3>there might be animals that could compare to the quickness
<v Speaker 3>the speed that they have. But these things are staked fast.
<v Speaker 3>And that's funny that you say that about the breath.
<v Speaker 3>I was mushroom hut take is what I call it.
<v Speaker 3>But I was getting chad trails at nighttime and I
<v Speaker 3>had a spotlight on my head. I was out there
<v Speaker 3>all by myself. This was in the same area that
<v Speaker 3>I ala go in. It's easier because the brush is
<v Speaker 3>so dense on the forest floor. It's a lot of
<v Speaker 3>times easier at night time to just have that spotlight
<v Speaker 3>on your head. And because they the at least the
<v Speaker 3>well the orange and the white ones, they stand out
<v Speaker 3>so they're easier to see and you can pick quicker.
<v Speaker 3>So that's what I was doing. And I hear exactly
<v Speaker 3>what you just described. It was like a grunt and
<v Speaker 3>a breath, and I'm thinking that I've been pitch black okay,
<v Speaker 3>in the woods by myself. There's no other people around,
<v Speaker 3>no other cards around. I'm probably a good five miles
<v Speaker 3>away from my camp, and I'm thinking in my mind, okay,
<v Speaker 3>that's a moose. That's a really big moose, and I'm
<v Speaker 3>just going along to Now looking back, I'm like, tambour,
<v Speaker 3>you're crazy like that. Why were you out there? But
<v Speaker 3>at the time, I had no fear. I wasn't worried
<v Speaker 3>about it. And I'm thinking, yeah, that's a moose. That's
<v Speaker 3>a big moves. He was really close by, and I'm like, well,
<v Speaker 3>I better go back the other way because i don't
<v Speaker 3>want to be by this moose. Now there's no moose okay,
<v Speaker 3>where I am in northern Washington there might be moose,
<v Speaker 3>But where I am by Mount Saint Helen's. There's no moose, yeh.
<v Speaker 3>And I've heard elk breathe. I've had them stored at me,
<v Speaker 3>I've had them call at me, I've had them charge me.
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't an elk and it wasn't a bear. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>this thing's the first thing that popped into my head
<v Speaker 3>was moose. And I've seen moose in Montana and Wyoming
<v Speaker 3>and that, so I think that that was a squatch.
<v Speaker 3>I think cougars can't make noises that big.
<v Speaker 1>I mean this was massive, massive, And you're in the
<v Speaker 1>same area, correct.
<v Speaker 3>The same area, yep, except for I was on the
<v Speaker 3>left side, so I was closest to the river this time.
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it had been There's nothing that makes that noise.
<v Speaker 3>And like my husband hunts, we have deer calls. We
<v Speaker 3>don't have elk here, but my uncle's hunt they have
<v Speaker 3>elk calls. Like I know all that stuff. I know
<v Speaker 3>what that sounds like. I know what bears sound like.
<v Speaker 3>I know what cougars, I know what foxes sound like,
<v Speaker 3>bobcats like you name it. And I would even look
<v Speaker 3>up online noises of animals that I think I already
<v Speaker 3>know what they sound like just to make sure because
<v Speaker 3>I'm okay with being wrong. I'm okay with being proven wrong,
<v Speaker 3>and sometimes I wanted to be proven wrong because I
<v Speaker 3>was so terrified. There was one time my nephew, he
<v Speaker 3>was like twelve at the time, and we were watching
<v Speaker 3>Finding Bigfoot on TV. And he's like, anti Tabby, that's
<v Speaker 3>what he calls me. He said, anti Tabby, I want
<v Speaker 3>to go up and do bigfoot calls in the woods.
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, okay, you don't have to ask me twice,
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't need an excuse to go into the woods.
<v Speaker 3>So we drove up. It was like an hour and
<v Speaker 3>fifteen minutes away. We drove to this to my spot,
<v Speaker 3>and we got there at like nine point thirty at night,
<v Speaker 3>and he was scared to roll down his window and
<v Speaker 3>we're driving really slow because, like I said, there's lots
<v Speaker 3>of potholes and I'm not thinking anything is going to happen. Okay,
<v Speaker 3>there was not one percent of anything in my mind
<v Speaker 3>that I thought, oh, we're going to see a bigfoot.
<v Speaker 3>So we're driving. I had just gotten hip to roll
<v Speaker 3>down his window because he was being a big scaredy cat.
<v Speaker 3>Mind you, we had firearms in the vehicle. We had snacks,
<v Speaker 3>we brought like we were. We were loaded and ready
<v Speaker 3>to go. But he was still scared. And I'm like,
<v Speaker 3>you wanted to come up here and do this, I
<v Speaker 3>brought you up here, So roll down your darn window
<v Speaker 3>so we can do it. So he rolls down his window.
<v Speaker 3>I see a huge pothole, and so I go to
<v Speaker 3>the right side of it to dodge it. And I'm
<v Speaker 3>almost off the road trying to dodge this pothole. It
<v Speaker 3>was huge. Well, I had my high beams on and
<v Speaker 3>it lit up this tree that had moss on it. Well,
<v Speaker 3>that caught my eye. So I'm looking at that tree.
<v Speaker 3>He's talking to me about something. I don't know what
<v Speaker 3>he was talking to me about. And I'm following that tree,
<v Speaker 3>just kind of in a daze. I guess following the
<v Speaker 3>tree with my eyes and I'm following it. And as
<v Speaker 3>we're passing it, and so I look out the passenger
<v Speaker 3>side window that he had just rolled down, and literally
<v Speaker 3>four feet away from the passenger side of my car,
<v Speaker 3>I see these hairy man lakes and I lost it.
<v Speaker 3>I started cussing, and I hadn't cussed in forever. I
<v Speaker 3>was dropping F bomb's yelling, screaming. I started to black out,
<v Speaker 3>like to fate again, freaking out, scared the crap out
<v Speaker 3>of my nephew. And he's like what And I came
<v Speaker 3>to and I'm like, oh, did you see the moss
<v Speaker 3>on that tree? I'm like, it scared me. I just
<v Speaker 3>made up like some random, lame excuse and he's like, yo,
<v Speaker 3>you scared me. Don't do that. I'm like, I'm sorry, Micah,
<v Speaker 3>like I didn't mean to do that. The whole time,
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking, you are so stupid for bringing your little
<v Speaker 3>nephew up in the woods at night. You guys are alone,
<v Speaker 3>You're away from any kind of civilization. You're dumb. I
<v Speaker 3>just kept beat myself and I knew that I was
<v Speaker 3>going to have to at some point turn around and
<v Speaker 3>go back the other way. I mean, I was terrified,
<v Speaker 3>absolutely terrified, and thinking it literally could have reached out
<v Speaker 3>and snatched my nephew out of the car and there
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have been anything that I could have done about it.
<v Speaker 3>And that like messed with me for a long time,
<v Speaker 3>because it's okay if I go out put myself in danger,
<v Speaker 3>but it was literally four feet away from the car,
<v Speaker 3>and that I should say, knowing that is the closest
<v Speaker 3>that I have known that I have been to one,
<v Speaker 3>and it was that is what prompted me. Like I
<v Speaker 3>was telling you about how I would go online to
<v Speaker 3>listen to like vocals, I went online and I looked
<v Speaker 3>at bears because I'm like, it had to have bit
<v Speaker 3>of bear, it had to have bit of bear. Well,
<v Speaker 3>bears don't have me caps, they don't like. This was
<v Speaker 3>literally bigfoot legs, like it looked like hairy man legs,
<v Speaker 3>is how I would describe it. And I did see
<v Speaker 3>the feet because of course there was a whole bunch
<v Speaker 3>of Oregon grape on the insilal and stuff on the ground.
<v Speaker 3>But I saw from like I don't know, a little
<v Speaker 3>bit above his ankles up to like mid thigh, probably
<v Speaker 3>because the way that the terrain was is that we
<v Speaker 3>were the road that we were on at that point
<v Speaker 3>was lower than the ground next to us, so I
<v Speaker 3>only saw a little bit. The ground was higher, but
<v Speaker 3>it was dark brown hair, maybe I don't know, a
<v Speaker 3>couple inches in length, and I could see the skin underneath,
<v Speaker 3>and the skin was like you said, like I was,
<v Speaker 3>I've heard it before, but it's always refreshing to hear
<v Speaker 3>other people say the same things as you, So, like
<v Speaker 3>when you were on Dad Yellow's Live talking about the
<v Speaker 3>skin color, that it was like a charcoal gray color,
<v Speaker 3>or like what I would say would be like an
<v Speaker 3>ashy gray color, but dark, like a charcoal ashy charcoal
<v Speaker 3>type color with dark hair. And I could see the
<v Speaker 3>skin through the hair, and I clearly saw its knee caps.
<v Speaker 3>That wasn't a bear's hide legs, that wasn't a bear's
<v Speaker 3>front legs. It was man legs. But because of the
<v Speaker 3>size the thighs, even though I only saw maybe midway
<v Speaker 3>up from the knee, you know, halfway up from the knee,
<v Speaker 3>the thighs at the time were bigger around than my waist.
<v Speaker 3>And I at the time, I think I was like
<v Speaker 3>a size thirteen, so I was pretty thick, like it
<v Speaker 3>was huge, but it still wasn't as huge as the
<v Speaker 3>ones that I've seen. So I figured that it was
<v Speaker 3>probably like a teenager maybe, or like a young maybe,
<v Speaker 3>like a preteen to teenager, just based on the size
<v Speaker 3>of his thighs. But yeah, that that scared me. I
<v Speaker 3>said I was never going to the woods again, and
<v Speaker 3>I had nightmares all night, and then I convinced my
<v Speaker 3>brother the very next day to go up with me
<v Speaker 3>because it was standing next to a tree. So we
<v Speaker 3>went drove down and I finally found the tree that
<v Speaker 3>it was standing next to, and sure enough, it was
<v Speaker 3>all trampled down right there. There was ferds and salal
<v Speaker 3>growing right there. The ferds were all trampled down, so
<v Speaker 3>it was obvious that something was standing there. But what
<v Speaker 3>it was, obviously I don't know. Well, I know I
<v Speaker 3>know what I saw. It was hairy man lakes. It
<v Speaker 3>had to have been a bigfoot.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, the other encounter you had with a past boyfriend,
<v Speaker 1>when you guys are driving, he didn't want to stop.
<v Speaker 1>Could you describe the bigfoot that you saw? I know
<v Speaker 1>you said it was over nine foot tall.
<v Speaker 2>What color was it? And can you describe the facial features?
<v Speaker 3>It was dark brown. I have seen black ones, but
<v Speaker 3>this one was like a dark brown color. It actually
<v Speaker 3>looked a lot like the one that Larry drew for you,
<v Speaker 3>except for mine had a more conical head. The hair
<v Speaker 3>was longer. It's still the hair was shorter around the face,
<v Speaker 3>but the hair on its chest and arms and everywhere
<v Speaker 3>else was longer, and it looked longer it could have
<v Speaker 3>been dirty, it could have had moss on it. I'm
<v Speaker 3>not sure, but it looked like it had a lot
<v Speaker 3>longer hair. The drawing it was almost spot on. I
<v Speaker 3>was like talking to my phone as I'm watching it,
<v Speaker 3>because when you were trying to explain that it dead
<v Speaker 3>in the cheeks, like right below the cheekbone, I knew
<v Speaker 3>exactly what you were talking about because that's exactly what
<v Speaker 3>mine looked like. And so I'm like, no, do this,
<v Speaker 3>you know, talking to my phone like no, it's like this.
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I know what you're talking about. And it did.
<v Speaker 3>It had really defined cheek boats, but it was very
<v Speaker 3>sunken in. It kind of reminded me of like some
<v Speaker 3>Native American tribes where they just had the prominent cheek bones.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, but.
<v Speaker 3>They're so chiseled, you know what I mean. And then
<v Speaker 3>they sunk it in that goes vertical. It's like a
<v Speaker 3>vertical sinkik in and mind. Because of how far away
<v Speaker 3>it was, I couldn't see like super duper details, but
<v Speaker 3>I did see the eyes. I didn't see white in
<v Speaker 3>the eyes, but I could have also been far away. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>the ones that I have seen, even if it's just
<v Speaker 3>for a split second, I just see dark. I've never
<v Speaker 3>seen any whites in their eyes.
<v Speaker 1>The juvenile, it was almost its entire eyes were white.
<v Speaker 1>Like this one had like you know, the the drawing,
<v Speaker 1>the way the eyes were. The juvenile's eyes were completely different.
<v Speaker 1>They're big and around and they were dental white, you know.
<v Speaker 1>Same with its teeth. That had like two canines that
<v Speaker 1>stepped down from the top and they were dental white.
<v Speaker 1>And I'm mean it's fur was clean. But yeah, that
<v Speaker 1>photo or that drawling that Larry made on Bigfoot Odyssey,
<v Speaker 1>I was freaked out once once he got to the
<v Speaker 1>eyes and it started coming together.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it really.
<v Speaker 1>Brought back a lot of stuff because I did that
<v Speaker 1>video like two or three hours, I don't know. I
<v Speaker 1>decided to take it because some lady couldn't do it,
<v Speaker 1>and Danielle got a hold of me and I was like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I'll do it. And I was like, man, this is
<v Speaker 1>kind of early because I hadn't been thinking about it.
<v Speaker 3>But right, yeah, I've always want to tell people, but
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be on video because I do now.
<v Speaker 3>Granted I don't live there anymore, but I planned to
<v Speaker 3>move back. I just don't want. I don't know, I
<v Speaker 3>just kind of I think it's from my old life.
<v Speaker 3>I'm just kind of paranoid like that, Like I just
<v Speaker 3>like to be to myself and like I mind my
<v Speaker 3>own business and I just don't. But I enjoy sharing
<v Speaker 3>my encounters with people, especially like it's so refreshing talking
<v Speaker 3>to you because we've had similar experiences and like you said,
<v Speaker 3>we do have the same opinions on certain things. And
<v Speaker 3>that's refreshing to me because I don't care if you
<v Speaker 3>were five feet away from what they're still part of
<v Speaker 3>your mind that is going to say, did I really
<v Speaker 3>see that? Was it really? Is that really what I saw?
<v Speaker 3>Could you know? Even if it's just for a split second.
<v Speaker 3>So it's refreshing and it confirms in my mind, like, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I know what I'm talking about, I know what I saw.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, And I really appreciate you and you know,
<v Speaker 1>you tell me your story and just the things that
<v Speaker 1>line up.
<v Speaker 2>That helps me out a lot.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And see, like you said about the canides, I've
<v Speaker 3>heard them have caneides and I've heard them have block
<v Speaker 3>teeth like the chips.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're all completely different.
<v Speaker 1>I mean a lot of them are similar from area
<v Speaker 1>to area, But as far as family group members, they're
<v Speaker 1>all different individuals.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I just recently started thinking like that, like, just
<v Speaker 3>like we're all humid, we look totally different with different
<v Speaker 3>skiinded toads, different hair, different shaped eyes, and it could
<v Speaker 3>be I mean, you could say the same for them.
<v Speaker 3>I just haven't experienced that much of a difference with
<v Speaker 3>the woods that I was around, you know what I mean.
<v Speaker 1>M Okay, So you're living in Washington at the time,
<v Speaker 1>and not to mention, this state's like most known for
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot activity. I mean, I'm pretty sure it has like
<v Speaker 1>the highest number of sightings, if not one of the
<v Speaker 1>highest numbers. You have these stories that are being passed
<v Speaker 1>down from your family. You know, they're calling things sasquatch
<v Speaker 1>and you're asking what it is and not knowing exactly
<v Speaker 1>what they're talking about. You also have this these laws
<v Speaker 1>that are in certain counties in Washington that portrayed to
<v Speaker 1>the protection of these creatures. And not to mention, you
<v Speaker 1>have all these experiences and you've found an area that
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's rare to find where these things like
<v Speaker 1>to hang out from time to time. Yeah, what are
<v Speaker 1>your plans in the future?
<v Speaker 2>Do you plan on returning. Do you want to do
<v Speaker 2>more of your own personal research?
<v Speaker 3>Wow?
<v Speaker 2>Where are you going to go from here?
<v Speaker 3>I want to move back home. Like where I live
<v Speaker 3>now is ridiculous about the East Coast, It's absolute rat infested.
<v Speaker 3>Just this, I hate this.
<v Speaker 2>Foreign to you your nature?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was boarded, raised in the Pacific Northwest, and
<v Speaker 3>like I've lived in big cities. I lived in Seattle
<v Speaker 3>for three and a half years. I've lived in Portland
<v Speaker 3>before it went to.
<v Speaker 1>Heck, I lived in Louisville, Colorado, and it's like in
<v Speaker 1>the outer city, was by Boulder in the mountains.
<v Speaker 2>But man, I hated it. Just I hated living in
<v Speaker 2>the city. Yeah, it sucks.
<v Speaker 3>I hate it.
<v Speaker 2>So not to say it's a bad place.
<v Speaker 1>Just I'm like you said, I'm from the country and
<v Speaker 1>I enjoy nature and wildlife and just solitude and having
<v Speaker 1>my own time.
<v Speaker 3>Right. Well, I and I didn't realize until I started
<v Speaker 3>going back out the woods again in twenty ten how
<v Speaker 3>much I missed it because I grew up camping, fishing,
<v Speaker 3>Like I grew up kind of like a tomboy. Because
<v Speaker 3>all of my mom had died or eight brothers and sisters,
<v Speaker 3>and all of them were hunters and fishermen. My dad
<v Speaker 3>was a hunter and a fisherman. So that's how I
<v Speaker 3>grew up. But then once I got grown and thinking
<v Speaker 3>that I knew better, I lived in the city for
<v Speaker 3>a long time, and then in twenty ten, I started
<v Speaker 3>going back in the woods and I'm like, this is
<v Speaker 3>where I want to be. So I got married and
<v Speaker 3>I moved out to the East Coast with plans of
<v Speaker 3>moving back at some point, even if it wasn't in
<v Speaker 3>Washington State. The way the laws are and the way
<v Speaker 3>things are going now in that area is crazy, So
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I will get to move back there.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because like if you can move to I don't say,
<v Speaker 1>like Kentucky or Idaho and it's all surround by forest,
<v Speaker 1>you're fine with that?
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah? And I mean that's actually what we want
<v Speaker 3>to do somewhere in the woods, in the forest. And
<v Speaker 3>like I always say, if I could find a place
<v Speaker 3>that is buy water, even if I don't have water
<v Speaker 3>on my property, even if it's you know, ten minutes away,
<v Speaker 3>fifteen minutes away, where I can get to it easily,
<v Speaker 3>than good. Yeah, Because I like, I'm going back in
<v Speaker 3>October for a month and specifically for mushrooms. I might
<v Speaker 3>have gauged it too late. It's been years, but there
<v Speaker 3>we also had wildfires out there, and where the wildfires were,
<v Speaker 3>I don't think they got to the specific area that
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about that was like my spot, but it
<v Speaker 3>got right up to it, so close to where the
<v Speaker 3>fire department was actually setting up in that area to
<v Speaker 3>block the fire from coming to that area. So I
<v Speaker 3>haven't seen what it looks like, so I don't know.
<v Speaker 3>I was so upset when I heard about the fires
<v Speaker 3>because I'm like, oh my gosh, that's where my squatches are, Like,
<v Speaker 3>what are they going to do? Where are they going
<v Speaker 3>to go? They're probably going to be pushed away, or
<v Speaker 3>because of how the area is, they could be pushed
<v Speaker 3>across the river. And once you crossed at least that
<v Speaker 3>specific river, it's not the Columbia, just so you know,
<v Speaker 3>it's a smaller river. You get more in towards civilization
<v Speaker 3>if you go in a certain direction, So that kind
<v Speaker 3>of I mean, I was kind of okay with that,
<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, it's like they're so special
<v Speaker 3>to me because they literally like let me be around them,
<v Speaker 3>even though I didn't necessary I interacted with them everyone
<v Speaker 3>in a while, like I could call them in. I
<v Speaker 3>called them in one time. I don't know if you've
<v Speaker 3>ever seen Renee on finding Bigfoot, which she does that
<v Speaker 3>like blood curdling scream, Paul. She never likes to do it,
<v Speaker 3>but they always make her do it. Well, I did
<v Speaker 3>that for the very first time. I was up with
<v Speaker 3>my mom, my brother, and my nephew in this spot
<v Speaker 3>in this area, and there's actually a camping spot there.
<v Speaker 3>It's just someone made it into a camping spot. It's
<v Speaker 3>not an actual campground. And they're like, call what in?
<v Speaker 3>Call on in? And so I did that scream. It
<v Speaker 3>was the first time I had ever done a scream
<v Speaker 3>like that, and I haven't done a scream like that
<v Speaker 3>since because it hurt my throat really bad. But sure enough,
<v Speaker 3>I did that scream and they start throwing rocks at
<v Speaker 3>us after a couple minutes. And I'm so thankful that
<v Speaker 3>my mom and my brother and my nephew were there,
<v Speaker 3>because my mom and my brother were kind of skeptical
<v Speaker 3>about it. So what I would tell him about my stories.
<v Speaker 3>They're like, yeah, right, you're just crazy whatever, You're the
<v Speaker 3>crazy Bigfoot lady. But they can't deny that, you know,
<v Speaker 3>bears or bears don't throw rocks. They were throwing pebbles
<v Speaker 3>at us. They were bluff charging, they were breaking branches.
<v Speaker 3>They were making clicking noises with their mouths. I'm not
<v Speaker 3>sure how they do it, but it's like a I
<v Speaker 3>don't know, like a like a tongue clack, but way
<v Speaker 3>louder and sounds way better than what I just did.
<v Speaker 3>They were making those noises and they were doing that,
<v Speaker 3>and they were looking at me like, oh my gosh,
<v Speaker 3>you really did it. I'm like, I told you they're here,
<v Speaker 3>Like now do you believe me? Like they're here? And
<v Speaker 3>my brother went still kind of thinking, oh yeah, right,
<v Speaker 3>And so he went in the direction of this noise,
<v Speaker 3>and I'm telling him, please don't make light of the situation,
<v Speaker 3>like I didn't want him to disrespect them because this
<v Speaker 3>was like my area. I'm like, don't go in there
<v Speaker 3>being a jerk or because he was like shaken branches
<v Speaker 3>and shaking trees, like oh, kind of making fun of them,
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, don't do that, Like I won't be
<v Speaker 3>mad or be surprised at all if one of them
<v Speaker 3>snacks you or throw something at you, like, don't do that,
<v Speaker 3>and he went away for a while. Could he wasn't
<v Speaker 3>answering us when we were calling him, and we didn't
<v Speaker 3>know where he went. Well, he had went across the
<v Speaker 3>road to the other side of the road and came back,
<v Speaker 3>and he's like, came here, I want to show you something,
<v Speaker 3>and he brings us We're still at this point on
<v Speaker 3>the left side of the road where the river is,
<v Speaker 3>and it wasn't maybe thirty feet ish away from where
<v Speaker 3>we had been standing in this homemade camp spot. He
<v Speaker 3>found a whole bunch of trees that had been braided
<v Speaker 3>together at the top. They were all I'm talking maybe
<v Speaker 3>a couple of inches in diameter, but they were like
<v Speaker 3>fifteen plus feet tall, and there was like, I don't know,
<v Speaker 3>six or seven of them that were all brought together
<v Speaker 3>like how you gather flowers, but they were gathered at
<v Speaker 3>the very top and they were all woven in where
<v Speaker 3>the foliage of the leaves were all woven in together.
<v Speaker 3>And he's like, what did this. I'm like, I told you,
<v Speaker 3>like they do that. I don't know how they do it.
<v Speaker 3>If they bend them down more towards their height, because
<v Speaker 3>at that point it's a good fifteen feet up in
<v Speaker 3>the air, so I would assume they would have to
<v Speaker 3>gather them all down lower to them, even though they're
<v Speaker 3>much taller than us. I don't think we have fifteen
<v Speaker 3>foot big foots walking around, you know. But I don't
<v Speaker 3>know how they do it. But they did it, and
<v Speaker 3>they finally believed me. Okay, I think you. I think
<v Speaker 3>that you're right. I think that there's something going on,
<v Speaker 3>So I hope I can go back there. Well, I
<v Speaker 3>am going back there next in October, and I'm going
<v Speaker 3>to go back to that same area and see what
<v Speaker 3>I can find and spend as much time as I
<v Speaker 3>can up there. But if I do, when I do
<v Speaker 3>move back, no matter what the area is, I want
<v Speaker 3>it to be around woods, and I do plan on
<v Speaker 3>going out and exploring.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that would be awesome. And let me know what
<v Speaker 1>you find when when you go out there again.
<v Speaker 3>Oh I well, definitely, I'm going to take lots of
<v Speaker 3>pictures too.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, real quick, I wanted to ask you. I wanted
<v Speaker 1>to ask your personal opinion on what you think. Since
<v Speaker 1>you're a pretty critical person when it comes.
<v Speaker 2>To analyzing things, and you're genuine and.
<v Speaker 1>You'll tell people how it is, how do you feel
<v Speaker 1>about me starting a PayPal. I mean, I already have it,
<v Speaker 1>but how does that make you feel personally?
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think it's a case by case basis. This
<v Speaker 3>is my personal opinion for me after talking to you,
<v Speaker 3>I don't see any problem with it. Now. I could
<v Speaker 3>nave a few other people that do it, and I
<v Speaker 3>absolutely just it chaps my hide, like I cannot stand
<v Speaker 3>it because there are people out there that yes they're
<v Speaker 3>buying the equipment, Yes they're doing this thing, but it's
<v Speaker 3>more self driven, if that makes sense, and clout driven
<v Speaker 3>more than uh tipic or uh documentation driven.
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I won't say, we won't say any names here,
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I agree. And I just kind of wanted
<v Speaker 1>the listeners to know that I do plan on using
<v Speaker 1>the money for the channel, and I want to get
<v Speaker 1>a high end camera to make documentaries kind of like
<v Speaker 1>small Town Monsters or you know, kind of the stuff
<v Speaker 1>that Mountain Beast Mysteries puts out, just higher quality because
<v Speaker 1>I got some blowing gear, but it's not bad for
<v Speaker 1>what I got.
<v Speaker 2>I'm also wanting to.
<v Speaker 1>Get a DGI drone to do like over headshots when
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing like the documentaries down there at the current river,
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like my videos are really.
<v Speaker 2>Missing that aspect, you know, of just like seeing the area.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, what I'm really hoping for is to make
<v Speaker 1>like I wouldn't say weekly videos. But you know when
<v Speaker 1>people see my documentaries, you know, the drones being used
<v Speaker 1>for that, when I go out and do research videos,
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's all going to be used. But it's
<v Speaker 1>not going to be like, Okay, you know all this
<v Speaker 1>money is going to be used for this one documentary,
<v Speaker 1>like it's going to be something that continues forever. So like,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, how do you feel about that? Do
<v Speaker 1>you think that's a do you think that's wrong? Or
<v Speaker 1>do you think the approach that I'm taking is the
<v Speaker 1>right way to go about it.
<v Speaker 3>I think it's the right way. I mean, how else
<v Speaker 3>are you going to do it? Unless you, like you said,
<v Speaker 3>you'll leave a ten to fifty an hour, unless you
<v Speaker 3>save up forever to get one camera.
<v Speaker 1>Like people say, people are like, oh, you got that
<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel, but the reality is that it only makes
<v Speaker 1>so much money. And the money I made, like I
<v Speaker 1>dumped it all and like all the money I had
<v Speaker 1>saved up in my account for those cameras well, I
<v Speaker 1>guess you guys haven't seen the new documentary. But I
<v Speaker 1>got like seven new cameras, took like over forty eight batteries.
<v Speaker 1>I had to buy a bunch of SD cards, and
<v Speaker 1>I bought a microphone for the go Pro and this
<v Speaker 1>attachment that costs like seventy dollars, a new case for
<v Speaker 1>the attachments, and I mean SD cards, So like there's
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff that goes into it, and I
<v Speaker 1>just hope people realize that.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like, for me personally, what I was thinking
<v Speaker 3>about trying to prove it, you know, and just the
<v Speaker 3>way that I am now, I'm kind of like ADHD,
<v Speaker 3>like squirrel type, Like I jumped from fig to fig
<v Speaker 3>and I'm kind of I don't know, I'm just not
<v Speaker 3>that especially because I have a chronic illness. It messes
<v Speaker 3>with my braid, so I get brain fog a lot.
<v Speaker 3>I get really foggy and thinking and I'm not very technical,
<v Speaker 3>So that stuff really doesn't matter to me personally. But
<v Speaker 3>for you, you're wanting to do it, You're wanting to put
<v Speaker 3>out quality information and documentation and whatever. But like there's
<v Speaker 3>I won't name names, but there's some bigfooters that aren't
<v Speaker 3>very they're known, but they're not like in the clicks,
<v Speaker 3>if you know what I mean. Like they're not in
<v Speaker 3>the cool kids group, and they are working with what
<v Speaker 3>they have. They're just normal people, and I will watch
<v Speaker 3>their videos any day over other people that have all
<v Speaker 3>the fancy equipment. But I've also seen like just like
<v Speaker 3>it is with like the Bigfoot movies. I'll watch a
<v Speaker 3>be Bigfoot movie, like a total hokey, stupid one if
<v Speaker 3>it's well because it's Bigfoot number one.
<v Speaker 1>But.
<v Speaker 3>If it's good. There's some Bigfoot movies that I've watched
<v Speaker 3>that have a lot of nudity or inappropriate stuff in
<v Speaker 3>it where I'm like, that's just crap. I'm not watching that,
<v Speaker 3>you know, But it depends on the person. So I
<v Speaker 3>don't have a problem with with people asking for donations
<v Speaker 3>to help further it because they want to prove it
<v Speaker 3>they exist, or at least document that they exist. Maybe
<v Speaker 3>if you're not trying to prove it, you're just wanting
<v Speaker 3>to document how they function in their habitat or you know,
<v Speaker 3>for me, it's not a matter of proving because I
<v Speaker 3>already know they exist. So if I were to do
<v Speaker 3>something like that, which it kind of sounds like what
<v Speaker 3>you're trying to do. It would be. Of course you're
<v Speaker 3>going to prove it in the process that that's part
<v Speaker 3>of it. But the main focus of it is just
<v Speaker 3>to document them. Yeah, and learn, because you learn the
<v Speaker 3>noises they make, Like there's I've heard them make so
<v Speaker 3>many noises. I can't tell you exactly how they're doing it,
<v Speaker 3>but I can tell you what it sounds like, like
<v Speaker 3>with the tongue clacks and the mouth pops that they
<v Speaker 3>make when they heard you out of areas. If they
<v Speaker 3>don't want you in, you will. You'll think that you
<v Speaker 3>just have one and then all of a sudden you're
<v Speaker 3>hearing the same noises coming from five different areas and
<v Speaker 3>they're all pushing you in a certain direction. Yeah, they're
<v Speaker 3>using those noises with their mouths with it a crowd.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what they're using, but they're making noises
<v Speaker 3>and they're doing it for specific reasons. Now that stuff
<v Speaker 3>is interesting to be.
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, I mean, it'd be cool to get all
<v Speaker 1>that documented. And it may seem like, let's say you
<v Speaker 1>just get like the tongue clacking once on audio and
<v Speaker 1>people are like, oh, well, we don't know what that is.
<v Speaker 2>Or what to make of it. It could be anything.
<v Speaker 1>But let's say you get that three or four times
<v Speaker 1>on audio and video, and then you get like the
<v Speaker 1>sounds of the trees getting pushed over, you know, a
<v Speaker 1>couple of times, and you get whoops, and you get
<v Speaker 1>a collection of everything. Well, once you look at that hole,
<v Speaker 1>you know, now it's something. But you know, when it's
<v Speaker 1>just one thing isolated on its own, you know it.
<v Speaker 2>Could easily be dismissed. But yeah, like you said, well,
<v Speaker 2>the thing.
<v Speaker 3>With for me is like I used to think like
<v Speaker 3>that too. Well I still think like that, but in
<v Speaker 3>my specific area, I would hear like what sounded like
<v Speaker 3>a tug clack noise. Well, it kind of sounds similar
<v Speaker 3>to a woodpecker, but usually I mean woodpeckers will peck
<v Speaker 3>just once, but usually they're pecking in succession, quick succession
<v Speaker 3>or whatever secession however you say it. But it still
<v Speaker 3>sounds a little bit off or like would they bibic
<v Speaker 3>crows or other animals? It sounds like a crow, but
<v Speaker 3>it's just a little bit off or a little bit louder,
<v Speaker 3>right a crow would be, you know, And so I
<v Speaker 3>would do that too. But yeah, when you have you
<v Speaker 3>know ABCD, and they're all coming together, and you know
<v Speaker 3>that they're there in the area that yeah, and of
<v Speaker 3>course you'd want to document that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that's the thing you know in your mind too,
<v Speaker 1>like you only want to spot A, B and C
<v Speaker 1>and you found bigfoot activity, but all these other areas
<v Speaker 1>that you've been to, you didn't see these structures or
<v Speaker 1>hear that, so you know that those spots are special. Well,
<v Speaker 1>then you have all these people saying, well, I've been
<v Speaker 1>in the woods a thousand times, why don't I see them?
<v Speaker 1>You know, you kind of know why you're when you're
<v Speaker 1>in there and you're hearing all those noises and the activity,
<v Speaker 1>you know exactly why you're the only one experience in it,
<v Speaker 1>because you're in the right spot. They trust you. It's
<v Speaker 1>just the perfect area. There's the river, mushrooms. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it's all coming together in your mind, right.
<v Speaker 2>But not for the skeptics.
<v Speaker 3>I think they have. I don't know how to explain it,
<v Speaker 3>but I think they know they can sense who's a
<v Speaker 3>threat who's not a threat. And I think that maybe
<v Speaker 3>that's why I had the encounters that I had. Would
<v Speaker 3>because I'm a female, I don't care what anybody says
<v Speaker 3>they like females. They are not threatened by febales.
<v Speaker 1>That's a really good point. Like if a hunter walked
<v Speaker 1>in there going real slow and he had a high
<v Speaker 1>powered rifle all camo and he's analyzing everything, looking at everything,
<v Speaker 1>these things take notice of that. That is not a
<v Speaker 1>good thing. But when a female goes in there, no rifle,
<v Speaker 1>she using whatever clothes, you know, probably bright clothes. She's
<v Speaker 1>talking loud, and she's looking down at the ground and
<v Speaker 1>just focused straight down at the ground, not what's out there.
<v Speaker 1>But you know, you're looking for mushrooms and little things.
<v Speaker 1>You're getting on your hands and knees picking these things,
<v Speaker 1>and they appreciate that.
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's what they do.
<v Speaker 1>You know, now you're in their natural habitat kind of
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, I've seen people do this and
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of weird.
<v Speaker 2>They'll just start eating.
<v Speaker 1>The grass and like, I don't know what animals are around,
<v Speaker 1>but the animals seem to calm down when they're doing
<v Speaker 1>that and they'll just do their natural thing.
<v Speaker 2>But now if you're in there focused on.
<v Speaker 1>Them, they're gonna any animal is gonna know like you're
<v Speaker 1>looking at me, you know, you're singling them out.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, they trust you for sure.
<v Speaker 3>They know what guns are. They've seen hunters kill deer.
<v Speaker 3>There's accounts of hunters killing deer and the bigfoots take it,
<v Speaker 3>or they'll leave the half of it or a part
<v Speaker 3>of it, or you know what I mean. They know
<v Speaker 3>when you put your hands up at the air like
<v Speaker 3>you would for a cop to show them that you
<v Speaker 3>aren't armed, they know what that means.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that doesn't mean they're going to flee and
<v Speaker 1>go forty miles away because there's a hunter in the
<v Speaker 1>area with the gun. That just means they're just gonna
<v Speaker 1>shut down. They're still going to be around you. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be watching you the whole time and be like,
<v Speaker 1>we don't trust you at all.
<v Speaker 2>We're not going to give you anything nothing.
<v Speaker 3>People don't understand, Like, granted, I might be a weird
<v Speaker 3>special situation because I've had so many encounters and I
<v Speaker 3>had a good spot, but I've been to other areas
<v Speaker 3>where I've encountered. Then there's a lot more than I
<v Speaker 3>think people realize.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, like the gorilla was encrypted, the octopus, the
<v Speaker 1>giant octopus was encrypted, The giant squid was encrypted the
<v Speaker 1>little people like in Indonesia that was a CRYPTI all
<v Speaker 1>this has been discovered.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the Africans were telling tales about the gorillas for
<v Speaker 3>hundreds of years and it wasn't a tell a white
<v Speaker 3>man came in there and said, oh, yep, they exist.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know people that lived.
<v Speaker 3>There twenty four or seven when I think they were
<v Speaker 3>discovered in maybe like I can't remember the eighteen hundreds.
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think it was later than that. I
<v Speaker 1>think it was just like one hundred years ago that
<v Speaker 1>we actually really.
<v Speaker 3>Eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds. But it's like they knew
<v Speaker 3>they were there, they knew and these are people that
<v Speaker 3>live there.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the panda bear was the same story.
<v Speaker 1>You know, the people that live there, they're crazy, that's
<v Speaker 1>not you know, they're just making stuff up.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now we got them.
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of them, and there's two like I
<v Speaker 3>know that the government knows about them. They like obviously
<v Speaker 3>were a big logging state, so there's logging going on.
<v Speaker 3>But they will take areas where I know for a
<v Speaker 3>fact there's big foots there. I've seen them, and they
<v Speaker 3>will shut them down. It's areas where people are close
<v Speaker 3>by or they go up to or they ride their
<v Speaker 3>dirt bikes or ATVs or whatever the case may be.
<v Speaker 3>I've seen them personally shut down two areas where and
<v Speaker 3>one of them has a cave. It's on the river,
<v Speaker 3>on a river it has a cave where. I've seen
<v Speaker 3>them in the cave. And I don't know them. I
<v Speaker 3>always I never got too close or did anything like
<v Speaker 3>super crazy to the ones that weren't in my area,
<v Speaker 3>because I don't know who they are, if they're nice,
<v Speaker 3>if they're you.
<v Speaker 2>Know what I mean.
<v Speaker 3>So they'll they'll shut down those areas and say it's
<v Speaker 3>shut down by some not named company you've never heard of.
<v Speaker 3>Now in Washington State, we have Warehouser that's one of
<v Speaker 3>the biggest wood companies. They have a lot of land
<v Speaker 3>and they'll open it up for hunters.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's an institution from New York. They own a
<v Speaker 1>lot of National forests around the United States. They buy
<v Speaker 1>the property and make whatever they want a park there.
<v Speaker 3>But and I was telling my husband, yeah, I think
<v Speaker 3>one of the reasons why they started the National parks
<v Speaker 3>is two I wouldn't say protect them because I.
<v Speaker 2>To get them their area to get away from exactly
<v Speaker 2>people exactly, And.
<v Speaker 1>I mean that opens up all kinds of cases, you know,
<v Speaker 1>where people are like, well where the hook are the bones?
<v Speaker 1>Why when people dig and build houses, you know there's
<v Speaker 1>no bones, But what if they bury them there in
<v Speaker 1>the conservation sites? Because I say that because if you
<v Speaker 1>go and dig, see what happens. See what the government
<v Speaker 1>will do to you if you go and dig in
<v Speaker 1>these areas, even if it's for an arrowhead, I mean
<v Speaker 1>they will freak out on you.
<v Speaker 3>Well not only that, but you I think it was
<v Speaker 3>an episode of Monster Quest Baby where they took a deer,
<v Speaker 3>they staked it down to the ground so it could
<v Speaker 3>be ripped away, a dead deer, and they recorded it
<v Speaker 3>and it was like seven days or less that that
<v Speaker 3>deer was gone and the site what are the scientists
<v Speaker 3>that was on the show or whatever, It's like, oh,
<v Speaker 3>it'll be like a couple of weeks. No, there's there's
<v Speaker 3>there's predators, there's the forest that I mean, it just disintegrates,
<v Speaker 3>it gets dispersed and.
<v Speaker 1>Right yeah, I mean the fossilization process is rare itself
<v Speaker 1>to happen, you know, super It's got to be at
<v Speaker 1>the right place, the right time, just the right conditions.
<v Speaker 1>But yet as far as the parks, yeah, I do
<v Speaker 1>find it strange. You know, they got these rules. You
<v Speaker 1>can't be in there after ten, you know, they shut
<v Speaker 1>down early. And that's you know, that's the public's land.
<v Speaker 1>And they've they've turned to at least in Missouri, certain
<v Speaker 1>areas they've turned into wildlife management areas and you can
<v Speaker 1>only bohunt there are only archery areas. Really yeah, I mean,
<v Speaker 1>so you can go in there at night, but that's
<v Speaker 1>like to recover your deer, drag it out, you know,
<v Speaker 1>get in and get out. But you got you can't
<v Speaker 1>camp in these areas. There's a lot of areas that
<v Speaker 1>are closed off. Nobody can go in there, you know.
<v Speaker 3>And right are the area that I'm in, there's a
<v Speaker 3>couple of homemade camp spots. It is near a campground,
<v Speaker 3>a couple campgrounds actually, but they're old. They're seasonal campgrounds,
<v Speaker 3>so they close in like sometime in September, I think
<v Speaker 3>into September maybe, and uh, but there's no hunting in
<v Speaker 3>the area. The one place where I sent you the
<v Speaker 3>picture last night, up by Mount Saint Helen's, that is
<v Speaker 3>in a wildlife management area. I've an every time I've
<v Speaker 3>gone there, well the two times, two times they've paralleled
<v Speaker 3>me in that area down it goes down into a
<v Speaker 3>big holler and it's really super steep, and they were
<v Speaker 3>down there making talking noises, but I couldn't understand what
<v Speaker 3>it was. And they they were they were being loud
<v Speaker 3>enough to where it told me that they wanted me
<v Speaker 3>to know that they were there, and they were made
<v Speaker 3>they were stopping around, they were making weird noises, and
<v Speaker 3>I got the picture. And that is one of the
<v Speaker 3>instances where I did go back. I don't think I
<v Speaker 3>took a picture of it, but I did go back
<v Speaker 3>to make sure that wasn't a tree stump, like it
<v Speaker 3>wasn't just dead tree stumps and there there wasn't anything there,
<v Speaker 3>so I know that whatever was, I believe it was
<v Speaker 3>a sasquatch. It looks like a sasquatch. The I mean,
<v Speaker 3>some people were even going as far as saying you
<v Speaker 3>could see the muscle and the hair and the there's
<v Speaker 3>three of them, there's two of them. There's that, you know,
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, I don't know about all that. I
<v Speaker 3>just know about the main one that I saw. I
<v Speaker 3>know that there was more than one, and I know
<v Speaker 3>that they wanted me to know that they were there,
<v Speaker 3>but they stayed down in that holler, but they were
<v Speaker 3>paralleling us, but we could hear them clearly. We walked
<v Speaker 3>down for like a quarter a half mile down that
<v Speaker 3>road and then walked back. There's at some point where
<v Speaker 3>the road just ends and it just ends and there's
<v Speaker 3>like a pond, kind of like a marshy pond area
<v Speaker 3>back there. And we walked back and it was all
<v Speaker 3>the way back when I took that picture, and they
<v Speaker 3>followed us the whole time down and back, and they
<v Speaker 3>let us know they were there the whole time.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>So, but that was a wildlife management area. And so
<v Speaker 3>though the like national parks, wildlife management areas, or even
<v Speaker 3>areas that just say no hunting, even there, like in
<v Speaker 3>the area where I'm talking about, there's lots of there's
<v Speaker 3>one person that owns a lot of land and it's
<v Speaker 3>all forested. He sold some of it. But I mean,
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking like thousands, hundreds, if not thousands of acres
<v Speaker 3>of land, and uh, that's where they're gonna go. They're
<v Speaker 3>gonna be in the places where you can't hunt. Now, granted,
<v Speaker 3>there's lots of hunters that see them, they kind of.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they basically can go wherever they want. If
<v Speaker 3>you think about it, that's their home. They can.
<v Speaker 2>You gotta wonder.
<v Speaker 1>You got to wonder how many people from the big
<v Speaker 1>city at like the big city's own property out there
<v Speaker 1>in Washington and never go out there, like you know,
<v Speaker 1>five hundred acre pieces and you know people that are loaded,
<v Speaker 1>you know, and they get out there just to camp
<v Speaker 1>fish a couple of times a year. Those are the
<v Speaker 1>places these things are going to be at where nobody
<v Speaker 1>else is at.
<v Speaker 2>Not I don't know. I mean, it could be so random.
<v Speaker 2>They can be anywhere, so that's not for me to say.
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, but in my experiences, it's been in national
<v Speaker 3>forests where there's no hunting allowed, or wildlife management areas
<v Speaker 3>where you're there's no hunting allowed. Yeah, I off the
<v Speaker 3>top of my head, I can't think of one place
<v Speaker 3>where I've seen one that's been in an area where
<v Speaker 3>you would hunt. Now that's just my personal experiences, you know.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even if it is random, it all favors the bigfoot.
<v Speaker 3>Right, and the thicker it is. But I'm telling you
<v Speaker 3>water is key water and shelter well shelter. But I
<v Speaker 3>not really sheltered cover. I should say, yeah they could,
<v Speaker 3>so they could, you know, get behind the trees or
<v Speaker 3>get the bushes like I've been. I've spooked an elk
<v Speaker 3>literally two feet away from me. I was walking by
<v Speaker 3>this bush to get out on this little volcanic little
<v Speaker 3>rock jetty thing on this lake to fish, and there
<v Speaker 3>was this ginormous bush. It was so thick and it
<v Speaker 3>was literally I walked right past it and this elk,
<v Speaker 3>this ginormous elk, hops out of it, and it scared
<v Speaker 3>me to death. But I'm thinking, how did you even
<v Speaker 3>get in that bush like that? Like I would think
<v Speaker 3>only a rabbit would be able to get in there.
<v Speaker 3>And this thing was huge, it was its back was
<v Speaker 3>almost as tall as me, and I'm like five six.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, only if that elk was humanoid and had others
<v Speaker 1>working with it, could it had gotten away and not
<v Speaker 1>been seen exactly?
<v Speaker 3>So, like if a huge elk could hide in a
<v Speaker 3>bush that, I would think no big animal or human
<v Speaker 3>for that matter, would be able to get in. And
<v Speaker 3>it was obviously taking a nap who was bedded down.
<v Speaker 3>Imagine what the bigfoots can do.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right.
<v Speaker 1>If you don't even see an eight hundred and twelve
<v Speaker 1>hundred pound elk sitting there. Plus how do you know
<v Speaker 1>if a bigfoot's near you when you can't hear them?
<v Speaker 1>People say they blend in so well and they work
<v Speaker 1>together with others.
<v Speaker 2>How are you going to know it they do?
<v Speaker 3>They like I had one I went into It was
<v Speaker 3>it was still in Schimedia County, but it was in
<v Speaker 3>a different area, and I would just go up in
<v Speaker 3>the woods and explore. So if I wasn't at my
<v Speaker 3>specific spot, I would be driving for service rows purposefully
<v Speaker 3>to get lost. Like I didn't know where I was going.
<v Speaker 3>I was just driving, you know, to see where the
<v Speaker 3>road would take me. I'd get out if I saw
<v Speaker 3>a cool area or whatever. And I went to this
<v Speaker 3>one area knowing that there was a or a river nearby,
<v Speaker 3>but I didn't know exactly where it was, so I
<v Speaker 3>pulled off. There was a couple of homemade camp spots there,
<v Speaker 3>but it was getting higher in elevation, and I was
<v Speaker 3>with my aunt actually at the time, and all of
<v Speaker 3>a sudden, I got this vibe. I call it a vibe.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what else to call it, but it
<v Speaker 3>was this feeling of get out of my house or
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to kill you. It's not like something spoke
<v Speaker 3>to me and said get out of my house or
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to kill you. But it was just this
<v Speaker 3>overwhelming terror of you need to leave right now. You
<v Speaker 3>don't belong here, and I was freaking out on the inside.
<v Speaker 3>But I didn't want to scare my aunt because she's
<v Speaker 3>a big, scaredy cat, so I didn't want to upset her.
<v Speaker 3>I just was like, there's no water here, you know,
<v Speaker 3>let's just go because I wanted to be by water,
<v Speaker 3>and she's a photographer, so she loves taking pictures and
<v Speaker 3>stuff and likes to be by water too. And finally
<v Speaker 3>I got her to leave, but it was at the
<v Speaker 3>point where I had a knife around my neck and
<v Speaker 3>a sheath and my knife out, and I had my
<v Speaker 3>pepper spray in my hand, and I was armed, but
<v Speaker 3>I would never shoot one, even even if they were
<v Speaker 3>to come at me. And I saw them coming at
<v Speaker 3>me and they were gonna attack me. I don't think
<v Speaker 3>I could do it. But I was so terrified that
<v Speaker 3>I had both of those out and she didn't notice.
<v Speaker 3>I just kept saying, like, we need to go, and
<v Speaker 3>I saw footprints on this steep little embankment. It was
<v Speaker 3>probably ten feet from the ground, and there were slides
<v Speaker 3>in it, but it was like human slides, like if
<v Speaker 3>you were to walk down that embankment, but it was
<v Speaker 3>way bigger, like way bigger than a big man's boots,
<v Speaker 3>you know. And I knew that they were there and
<v Speaker 3>they wanted us to leave, but I never saw them.
<v Speaker 3>I never even heard them, but I knew it was
<v Speaker 3>them because they've given me that vibe before, just not
<v Speaker 3>as intense, if that makes sense. And I don't know
<v Speaker 3>how they do it. That's one of the things where
<v Speaker 3>when you talk about the paranormal stuff where it's like, well,
<v Speaker 3>could that be paranormal or are they using infrasound or
<v Speaker 3>you know, what is it? Because you literally feel like
<v Speaker 3>you're going to be murdered, like brutally murdered any second
<v Speaker 3>if you don't leave. Is the easiest way I can
<v Speaker 3>explain it. And I felt that feeling before, just not
<v Speaker 3>that intense when they don't want me in an area,
<v Speaker 3>but it's also been accompanied by the mouth clocks and
<v Speaker 3>the clicks, and then I find out there's five of
<v Speaker 3>them at least and they're surrounding I'm going towards an area,
<v Speaker 3>and they're coming towards me where in the direction I'm going,
<v Speaker 3>and they're pushing me like I know what I'm being herded,
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean out of areas. They've done
<v Speaker 3>it to me enough times where I know that's what
<v Speaker 3>they want, but this was something different. And I've never
<v Speaker 3>gone back to that place since because it was so bad. Now.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if there was young ones there and
<v Speaker 3>they didn't want me around the young ones, or if
<v Speaker 3>it was just a rogue mail that was just a jerk.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Because the teeth, like the teenager, the
<v Speaker 3>teenage aged ones or the young ones I should say,
<v Speaker 3>they're kind of I don't know, like kind of cocky
<v Speaker 3>and like rambunctious m hm sore. They're the ones that
<v Speaker 3>are going to be more in your face with it.
<v Speaker 3>They're gonna be the ones that well, in my experience anyways,
<v Speaker 3>I can't speak for anybody else, but in my experiences,
<v Speaker 3>they are the ones that do the bluff charges. The
<v Speaker 3>older ones are more chill unless you are by their
<v Speaker 3>babies or if you're getting too close to where they sleep.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree.
<v Speaker 1>I think the juveniles are the ones that interact the
<v Speaker 1>most and once they get older and develop a different
<v Speaker 1>sense of maturity, they are a completely different animal, completely
<v Speaker 1>different animal. The mature sasquatch compared to the juveniles are
<v Speaker 1>completely different. And that makes me wonder that many people
<v Speaker 1>are probably around sasquatch when in the woods, but they
<v Speaker 1>don't get that interaction. Maybe people that find giant structures,
<v Speaker 1>those are older groups. But if you can find a
<v Speaker 1>group that have young ones, you'll get sasquatch activity, I
<v Speaker 1>believe well.
<v Speaker 3>And if you also notice, especially by water, you know,
<v Speaker 3>and granted, trees fall in the woods. Okay, everybody knows that,
<v Speaker 3>and granted they fall by the water, but what I
<v Speaker 3>noticed in a lot of these areas is that they will.
<v Speaker 3>It's like they're making jungle gyms for the kids. It's
<v Speaker 3>what it reminds me of. They're putting the trees in
<v Speaker 3>such a way that they can either cross the river
<v Speaker 3>or they can climb up to get up to a
<v Speaker 3>steep cliff. I don't know. It's hard to explain you because, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>trees fall, and they fall. The time they fall off cliffs,
<v Speaker 3>they fall. I realized that, and I get that, But
<v Speaker 3>the I guess the way that they're positioned is how
<v Speaker 3>I should say it. It literally looks like it's a
<v Speaker 3>kid's jungle gym, Like it makes me want to go
<v Speaker 3>climb on it, and I don't like climbing things. But
<v Speaker 3>it reminds me of like the structures that we would
<v Speaker 3>have on the playground as a kid, where like the
<v Speaker 3>monkey bars and the and the the slides and the
<v Speaker 3>things that you could you know, climb up and go down.
<v Speaker 2>And that's a good point.
<v Speaker 1>Like parents when they have kids, you know, they go
<v Speaker 1>through that stage where they set up, you know, a
<v Speaker 1>swing set, and you know they buy them toys. But
<v Speaker 1>what if the older sasquatches are making these structures so
<v Speaker 1>the little ones, you know, have play areas you know,
<v Speaker 1>they like to play.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe that's.
<v Speaker 3>What I mean. I think that it's only under their supervision.
<v Speaker 3>I don't Just like how baby deers can lay all
<v Speaker 3>day and the mom will leave them and only come back,
<v Speaker 3>like what's a day to feed them or whatever, and
<v Speaker 3>they could just lay there and be out of sight
<v Speaker 3>and whatever.
<v Speaker 1>It reminded me of like you know when people have
<v Speaker 1>a house cat and they buy like that jungle gym
<v Speaker 1>for the cat and it like, yeah, it funnels all
<v Speaker 1>the way up and goes to the ceiling like and
<v Speaker 1>they climb up it and they enjoy it.
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know just what they do, you know,
<v Speaker 2>it's in their nature.
<v Speaker 1>I kind of got that sense about what we were
<v Speaker 1>talking about, you know, the juveniles will run up the
<v Speaker 1>big structures and just playing them and hiding them, and
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.
<v Speaker 3>Especially when it's around water, I'll take notice because the
<v Speaker 3>way I mean obviously lots of other wild animals will
<v Speaker 3>probably use those down trees to cross water or to
<v Speaker 3>get up to a steepid bake bit or a cliff
<v Speaker 3>or whatever. But I always take notice, and then I
<v Speaker 3>look at like how it's made, Like where did that
<v Speaker 3>tree come from? Did it come from right there at
<v Speaker 3>the top of the cliff, and that's why it's city down,
<v Speaker 3>Like if it's near like a waterfall, like we have
<v Speaker 3>lots of waterfalls, is it because it came off the cliff?
<v Speaker 3>Did it get washed down the river during you know
<v Speaker 3>when the in the spring didn't get washed down? Like
<v Speaker 3>I kind of just take notice and that those kind
<v Speaker 3>of things because I don't know, I think that too
<v Speaker 3>many people go out in the woods and they're they're
<v Speaker 3>seeing the trees they're seeing nature, They're they're being observant,
<v Speaker 3>but it's totally it's a totally different thing to be
<v Speaker 3>observant when you have bigfoots in mind and you're specifically
<v Speaker 3>looking for the certain things. Now, granted, not every tree
<v Speaker 3>break is going to be from a bigfoot. I will
<v Speaker 3>joke with my husband and he hates it because I'm like, oh,
<v Speaker 3>look at that tree break, and bigfoot did it just
<v Speaker 3>to And I'm totally joking, but I think part of
<v Speaker 3>him thinks that I'm serious. I know that not everything
<v Speaker 3>is bigfoot, but you once you've seen them, you look
<v Speaker 3>at that kind of stuff. You pay attention more to
<v Speaker 3>that kind of stuff than somebody that just goes out.
<v Speaker 3>Just like how there's people that are really good at
<v Speaker 3>seat deer from distance or just a slight movement, like
<v Speaker 3>hunters especially, they can pick up on that. I got
<v Speaker 3>pretty good at knowing when they were around to see
<v Speaker 3>the flash see especially black or dark really have black bears.
<v Speaker 3>A black bear, if it knows I'm there, it's not
<v Speaker 3>going to stick around. I've never I mean, I granted,
<v Speaker 3>I know if it's like diring right where they're gonna
<v Speaker 3>get ready to hybridate or if it's a mama with
<v Speaker 3>young they might be more defensive, but for the most part,
<v Speaker 3>they run, so they're not going to stay around, you know,
<v Speaker 3>in the area, no ink that I'm there, and you
<v Speaker 3>just kind of get you pay attention to certain things
<v Speaker 3>that you know. Okay, I see this, this, this, and this,
<v Speaker 3>and I know that they're around.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I completely agree.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Bree Well, I think we're getting towards the end
<v Speaker 1>of the show. But yeah, it was a pleasure having
<v Speaker 1>you on the show and I had a great time.
<v Speaker 3>B two. Thank you for letting me ramble on for
<v Speaker 3>so long, especially what I'm sick with the stuffed up nose,
<v Speaker 3>but I appreciate it. I had fun.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no problem.
<v Speaker 1>And when you get back out to Washington, I'm send
<v Speaker 1>me some pictures and let.
<v Speaker 2>Me know what you find.
<v Speaker 3>I definitely will.
<v Speaker 2>All right, Brie, Well, you have a great day and
<v Speaker 2>you take care.
<v Speaker 3>You two fakes. Bye bye.
<v Speaker 1>I found that breeze activity in Washington was very similar
<v Speaker 1>to mine here in the Ozarks. It seems that most
<v Speaker 1>activity takes place near some type of major waterway or
<v Speaker 1>water source, and of course, where there is water, there
<v Speaker 1>is life. When I had my sightings, a few years ago,
<v Speaker 1>I noticed that there were chantrelle mushrooms growing all over
<v Speaker 1>the place around the property, and of course there was
<v Speaker 1>a big creek system nearby, so I wasn't surprised to
<v Speaker 1>hear Bree say that she was getting all kinds of
<v Speaker 1>activity around the mushrooms. She also mentioned them using the
<v Speaker 1>high ground to their advantage. I have noticed they will
<v Speaker 1>use the high ground as a vantage point and I'm
<v Speaker 1>sure they can hear better from up there. I also
<v Speaker 1>wanted to say thank you for sharing the photos. They
<v Speaker 1>were very interesting and you could definitely see something.
<v Speaker 2>Hiding behind the trees there.
<v Speaker 1>Anyways, thank you again Brief for telling us your encounters,
<v Speaker 1>and I hope to have you back on the show soon.
<v Speaker 1>That's all for now, and take care of everyone.