Exclusive: Blake Moynes, ‘Perfect Match,’ and the NSFW ‘Paradise’ Moment You Never Saw | Happy Hour
Today on “Happy Hour,” Blake Moynes is here to spill some tea with Rachel and Charity! The Robert Irwin of Bachelor Nation is here to chat all about his work with wildlife, including plans for Charity’s dream vacation with elephants. Then, we get into the juicy, exclusive stuff you won’t want to miss! Did Clayton Echard take Blake’s spot on “Perfect Match”? Would Blake ever be the Bachelor? Plus, we get you all the details behind Blake’s “Bachelor in Paradise” deleted scene: What got his roast locked away in the vault?! We’re here to tell you! Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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00:00:01 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to you Bachelor Happy Hour. 00:00:04 Speaker 2: I'm Charity and I'm Rachel, and today we have a very special guest, one of my closest friends, Blake Mooin's welcome to the new Bachelor Happy Hour. 00:00:16 Speaker 3: Yay, thanks for having me. It's it's fun to see you on here, Rachel. I feel like you're going to deliver. And I've already listened to a couple of your podcast charities, so I feel like you guys are gonna be a great duo. 00:00:26 Speaker 2: Really. 00:00:26 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, thank you so much. 00:00:28 Speaker 1: We appreciate that. I mean, we're honored to have you. I was telling Rachel, I was like, you're like the Robert ern of Bachelor Nation. 00:00:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, to some degree. You know, there are wines are lesson Jerry, so you know, getting to that point is something else. But we definitely share a few things in common. I definitely, yeah, it's like that guy. 00:00:53 Speaker 1: But I think you could Yeah. 00:00:56 Speaker 3: Well if I have a little tequila, right, you know. 00:00:59 Speaker 2: Yes, Fila, Blake, we will get into all that because I feel like we have so much to talk about. 00:01:05 Speaker 4: You were actually just on Happy Hour not too long ago. 00:01:08 Speaker 2: There was some speculation that you might have been on another season of The Bachelorette, Oh tell us. 00:01:15 Speaker 3: More, essentially, there was like a mix up or things. Joe and screen heard my name at the airport around the same time that they were potentially going to film here and there in Salt Lake and all these things, and the producer's name was named, my name was named, but I wasn't there, so I think it was coincidence. And then knowing that my ass has been on a couple of those, it was like not not out of the question that he would maybe go and do something crazy like that again, so speculation but didn't end up happening. 00:01:46 Speaker 4: Absolutely. Where in the world are you right now? You look like you're at home. 00:01:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm at home now for another two weeks and then and then it's an onslaught of craziness again. I don't get back basically till like October. 00:01:59 Speaker 1: Us about it. Yeah, I'm like, I am like so intrigued by like your adventures, so I like, obviously this is like my first real time having a conversation with you. But I'm like, I'm here for it, so I need to know like everything that you do, and obviously you being you're about to be gone like you said, for how many months? That's insane. 00:02:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's where do I start? Okay? So I essentially just work all over the world different nonprofit organizations that focus on different animals. That could be trip specific things like you know Rage came on last year. It could be media film specific. 00:02:35 Speaker 2: Uh. 00:02:35 Speaker 3: And it's basically expeditions and we kind of storytell on all of the species that are at risk and the challenges and the triumphs and and everything in between. And so yeah, we just yeah this year we're going Zambia, Namibia, Kenya, South Africa. 00:02:53 Speaker 4: I want to go to Kenya. 00:02:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, shark work next week or next ye two weeks in Florida, going to Australia, do more manatees in Florida. We're going to the Maldives next month. It's American bison in July, alphant Seel Like it's just like we're all over, We're all over. 00:03:15 Speaker 1: So yeah, I love this honestly, like really fascinating. 00:03:21 Speaker 3: Like, but to charity do you have? Do you have like an animal that you've always had, like a I would love to go and do this, or a place or a destination that you would I. 00:03:29 Speaker 1: Mean, I mean, I'm glad that you're asking me, because I was also telling Rachel was like, for part of our honeymoon, me and Dawton, we want to like do like this like African tour and do like a safari. So like I want to be like, I mean, kind of similar to what you and Rachel did, Like I need to be on grounds, like I want to get in there. So I mean, I'm a lover of all animals and I love that Obviously this is like your passion but also like your career, and I think it's amazing. So yeah, like if the opportunity ever comes for me and Nott to do that, I would love to. But yeah, I was like, Blake needs to come be a little start little tour. 00:04:00 Speaker 3: Gut Well, I can definitely point you in the right direction if you don't do it with me, but if you do do it with me, we can definitely deliver. 00:04:07 Speaker 2: And oh my god, Blake's on their honeymoon. 00:04:12 Speaker 3: I'm the one showing up in the morning with their coffee and waking them up good morning. And you know today we're gonna go do this. Yeah yeah, yeah, but no, I mean listen, if you if you actually are serious about going out and doing that point in the right direction and set you up to do things that exclusive access, stuff that you could not do, you know, pay for technically. 00:04:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, no, I'll have I mean, if it won't be me reaching out, Dotton definitely will. So we'll wat chat after this. 00:04:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, that's so exciting. I truly feel like Africa was the highlight of my life. Like Blake knows this, It was my dream to go on a safari and go to Africa and we just had the best time ever. And Blake, are you playing I guess on bringing more Bachelor people into that world or what do you have planned for the future with that? 00:05:05 Speaker 3: There there's a lot being worked on right now. I think, you know, when it comes to we'll call it influence for impact, right, so you know, even rich, you know, you coming along and doing that, the notoriety exposure that even went to lessons in conservation from just you being there alone and not actually putting even tailor any crazy campaigns to help with that. But you know, more eyes and understanding around these organizations. The work that they're doing is so important and so yeah, we're you know, we've done I think now four or five you know special guests type projects in the past, and we know that how much more we can do when we bring people along and get them out of their comfort zone a little bit. And you know, Rich, you had it fairly easy in some way because that was very like high level. Well you've done well, okay, well this year bots Wanner, I can't tell you who's coming to bots Wanna just yet. Is it a person, Yeah, there's it's a it's a trio. 00:06:15 Speaker 1: Actually there's a tree people. 00:06:18 Speaker 3: Yeah. And so after the and Rachel, it's a different kind of a tinery than what you've done, so we it's a different different location on the second half, same thing, helicopter flying, all these different things. But then it's the package at the end that these that you probably wouldn't have loved. Uh and like tent like tenting out with the rangers, knows. 00:06:38 Speaker 4: I don't camp. 00:06:41 Speaker 1: How did you? Like, I can't how long we were all even there for like forever. 00:06:46 Speaker 2: Well, to me, that was like camping too a little bit because we were in it, like there was like a tent, like we were not inside a hotel. But it like was really nice. Obviously there's like indoor plumbing and there was like a bedroom, but like still that's like camp to me, like knows, I can't do it. 00:07:04 Speaker 3: You did, you did, you did great though on your outfits and like everything. 00:07:08 Speaker 4: Every time he's like the elephants, they were everything. He knows to compliment me on. He's like, your outfits are really. 00:07:16 Speaker 1: Like how was her survival? How was her you know, how is she managing? 00:07:21 Speaker 2: Yeah? How? 00:07:22 Speaker 3: I no, I mean you're easier than I thought that you're gonna be. 00:07:27 Speaker 1: That's good. 00:07:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, no, I mean I listened, Like, you know, we have a bunch of other guests that we're on that trip, and I think the the one thing which is interesting for guests, they don't get to meet people that have been on these shows and things before, and they were all just you know, I love her. I love her because she just you know, it was easy to fit in and get along with everybody. So she you know, like like Rachel, I'm reviewing a lot of that stuff that we've been putting together, these like vlog experiences from no one's seen yet that eventually will come out, but you know, you can see you and you know Sandro and every Yeah, it was a lot of fun. She did great, she did great, and and she dove in. I mean she had little breakdowns here and there naturally. 00:08:10 Speaker 1: Yeah what wait over what please tell me and I'll tell you if it's valid or not. 00:08:16 Speaker 2: When I was on the Africa trip, it was like a couple of weeks before a perfect match was about to air. And while I was there, I was getting texts. Their editing is a little bit different, and they were starting to ask me questions. 00:08:31 Speaker 4: And they're like, what did you mean by this? What did you mean by this? 00:08:33 Speaker 2: And I was so nervous about all the Clayton stuff coming out, and I just was trying to have a good time and put everything out of my mind. And one night I did have a couple of buses in one had a full breakdown next to a hippo. 00:08:48 Speaker 1: Okay, wait, not ballot because I was like, sorry, hippos, yes, come out of the water and they do yeah, like and they run they like charge. So I'm like, that's okay, And that was a I had. 00:09:03 Speaker 4: I think that was it. 00:09:05 Speaker 1: I think that was it. 00:09:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, it's a it's a rule, like there's a there was. You were definitely managing a lot at the same time. It's a very over stimulating. There's all these things that you're constantly on the go. There's no time to really sit and like when you're trying to you manage the overthinking that comes with that and what's going to happen on that There's a lot going on. So yeah, and you know you came over to to my tent just like I just I need a. 00:09:31 Speaker 2: Second dramatics of the impression of me right now? 00:09:35 Speaker 1: Okay, Blake, we know that was really good. I need a second. That was like spot on, I'm. 00:09:43 Speaker 2: Speaking of Perfect Match, Blake. Oh you we're supposed to go on Perfect Match. 00:09:51 Speaker 1: You were I was. 00:09:54 Speaker 3: Very very very close to be going to with Rachel then and the last man I just could not I could trigger on it. 00:10:00 Speaker 1: Wait, okay, no, we okay, we yeah, that tea right because I'm like, I need to talk about this, Okay. It was it like personal reasons like is it public knowledge why you didn't want to like go or what like kind of stuff. 00:10:14 Speaker 3: There was a combination of things. I was seeing somebody kind of at the same time, right, you remember, and so it was it wasn't like a full relationship, but it was like and then at the same time, it's like going to do another show that I was unsure about. I just it was there's too much ah, too too much hesitation, and I didn't feel really confident and excited to go. So it wasn't like the saving grace is knowing that Rachel was likely going when I was at her apartment talking about it, and it was you know, we were close to go. Rachel was only what maybe weeks before or something. 00:10:49 Speaker 2: Uh huh, Well, yeah, I think they were casting. I can't remember when we were talking about it, but you were the only other names. 00:10:56 Speaker 3: I was on the phone at like your place. 00:10:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm not just say something crazy sod did Clayton take your spot? 00:11:04 Speaker 3: Because you know, I don't know. I mean, like I know they were pressing hard, like hard to make it happen. Then when that like they're on me every day, Yeah, I don't know. I think around the same time too, like it was out there, Rachel and I were always hanging out and you know, do the seatral stuff together and all these things. So I think they actually they wanted some type of like hmm, curiosity around who was going to be there with Rachel? 00:11:32 Speaker 1: Yes, wait, I mean I guess we'll never know, but I would have loved to see that play out. I mean like that, I. 00:11:42 Speaker 4: Feel like everyone saw in Paradise. 00:11:44 Speaker 2: We were there together, so it would have probably been like a similar experience I feel. 00:11:49 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, yes, yes and no. I think though too. Like our relationship, our relationship now is is you know, we were like friends there, but now it's like I know you a whole different, you know what I mean? 00:12:05 Speaker 2: Like, there's so much do the Blake to be my friend in Paradise because we were not friends before Paradise. I actually really didn't like Blake before. 00:12:13 Speaker 4: Wait, really this is true, Like do you remember? 00:12:19 Speaker 2: Okay, So the first time I met Blake, he did not say a word. He was there with our former manager and he was sitting at the end of the bar just silently listening to my conversation. 00:12:30 Speaker 4: And by the end of the dinner he. 00:12:33 Speaker 2: Had so many tequilas that he yelled at me for using a plastic straw. And that was the first time we had a conversation. 00:12:42 Speaker 1: Honestly, I fifty because I'm like the plastic straws we do not use. 00:12:46 Speaker 2: I do understand that he had to go at me in the middle of the restaurant. 00:12:50 Speaker 1: The first who are you? Yeah, I was like, who are you? 00:12:56 Speaker 3: First off, I don't yell rach. Is that being a bit of a ship in giving you? 00:13:03 Speaker 1: Yes? 00:13:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, but but I'm like, I'm harmless, I'm just a little bit more out there. I'm chricken. 00:13:09 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:13:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, feel Blake, I feel like the Blake. Yeah? Is that? Like, is that your alter ego? 00:13:17 Speaker 4: I only get to actually, yeah, FeelA Blake. 00:13:22 Speaker 3: The night of the roast, Yeah, that was yeah, that was a little. 00:13:25 Speaker 2: That was a little They had a completely cut Blake's roast because no, crazy, it was I have never heard anything like that in my life. 00:13:36 Speaker 4: And I'm trying to with Mercedes, right. 00:13:42 Speaker 3: Sorry, we had partners, right, Yeah? 00:13:44 Speaker 4: Who was your partner? 00:13:47 Speaker 3: Kylie? 00:13:48 Speaker 4: Kylie, Kylie? 00:13:49 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:13:50 Speaker 2: And that was the day that Katie Thurston came down to the beach and you guys had a little chat and I think you were also going through it. 00:13:58 Speaker 4: A little bit with Jess at the time. 00:14:00 Speaker 2: So Tequila Blake did start to come out early in the day, and by the time we got to that roast, the things that came out of blake Point's mouth, I mean, I'm trying to even remember. 00:14:14 Speaker 1: I was like, don't give us the worst, but like give me like some because obviously I'm like, I don't even I don't even think I heard about this from anyone, Blake, explain yourself. 00:14:23 Speaker 3: I okay, first, So, yeah, I don't have that much of a filter when I'm drinking and I'm not great like just jokes off the cost like a lot of my humor where people are like laughing, like would be like you just said that, Like I'm I can be off the costs and say shit, that's like a little bit fucking wild. Yeah, and so there were specific things I remember. I remember the first thing I came out with was something around Katie and and John Hershey and how something about because she mentioned that I like to be called daddy, which was like there was a joke that I think. Anyways, we went to a little thing and I remember Jesse looked at me right away and was like, dude, this is an ABC show. We cannot put this like you you can't talk like. 00:15:11 Speaker 1: That, Jesse flagging it. It was. 00:15:15 Speaker 3: It was just things that were like a little bit much just just vulgar, not necessarily mean. 00:15:21 Speaker 1: They were just like log not family friendly friendly. 00:15:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, like if the whole thing would have been bleeps, and it was. 00:15:28 Speaker 2: Just I don't even think they could have bleeped it out how vulgar it was. 00:15:33 Speaker 1: I'm screaming. Rachel is like she is double downing on it. She was like, no, it was the most insane thing ever. Yeah, okay, we'll leave it at that. We'll leave it at that. I had to know. 00:15:45 Speaker 4: ABC should release the tapes, that's all. 00:15:49 Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, no, we'll keep We'll keep Tequila Blake in the archives for now. We'll bring him out. We'll bring him out in person, not on Badger Happy Hour. We'll find them in person. 00:16:01 Speaker 3: Yeah. It would be good, though, to see those lines, because I remember them being like the boys coming to me after and being like, bro, you're fucking crazy. 00:16:10 Speaker 4: I mean you and just broke up. Was it that night or like the next day? She was not happy with you after that? 00:16:23 Speaker 1: Speaking of obviously, like you just said that, you guys like didn't really have like a relationship before you guys went on y'all season of Paradise, So like at any point when you guys came on the beach, like I know, like you Blake and Jess y'all peered up pretty quickly, but like, was there ever any interest with you guys exploring like a relationship or what was that dynamic like like at the time. 00:16:46 Speaker 2: I feel like it was like immediately I just forced Blake to be my friend because we were the two like older people on the beach that have been engaged, and it was kind of I just felt camaraderie with you, even though we got off to a rough start. 00:17:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was kind of like a it was almost like a safety feeling in a way. And I think the like I had started talking, I think the first day was when I started talking to Jess and I think what Rachel Sean or something. 00:17:18 Speaker 2: Yes, when I was in a relationship with Seoane, I really liked that one. 00:17:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, I did, you know. Yeah, I was giving my two cents across the board and everything that you were kind of doing, and you know you didn't always listen, which is okay, but I was, you know, trying to be there as much as possible for you. So yeah, it was kind of like we got I think we just felt a little out of it in comparison, everyone else knew each other well and we were the ones that kind of didn't. But I think that's where I think some of the core friendship and trust started coming from it, and comfortability and familiarity, and then from there it was like, yeah, we went did ceatural work and all that stuff, and then I boos wanted and so you know when you when you spend that amount of time with somebody doing some of those other cool things outside of Paradise, ye, you know, naturally just become much closer. So that's where I think majority of it came, Like the friendship kind of came from in like slip yeah. 00:18:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, Blake is the only person in the world I feel like he will actually tell me, like what I'm doing wrong, I give it to me actually so straight, like Blake knows if I ever need an opinion on something, which I do often, he is the one I go to. So we're thankful for Paradise and for our old management, or at least I am. 00:18:42 Speaker 1: Now, you guys have a really like, beautiful like friendship. Obviously, I'm like enough that it keeps the Internet speculating between you two. But I loved, like obviously to hear both sides from you guys of how y'all's friendship formed and all the cool things that you guys get to do together. So I love that. 00:18:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll probably time. Wer She comes back out and doesn't says another thing, another project. 00:19:05 Speaker 4: I wanted to do the manatees. 00:19:06 Speaker 2: I was about to text you about that after because you know that is the one I want to do. 00:19:12 Speaker 3: Well, we can talk about that because there's there's still room to potentially pull that off. 00:19:16 Speaker 4: Perfect. 00:19:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I need to get on on Blake's yea, we need You're trying to get like this. 00:19:24 Speaker 2: And you want to do like if you have one animal that was specific for the chip, what would you want to do. 00:19:30 Speaker 1: I'm like, first of all, actually, Blake, you can correct me if this is like controversial, because I know like a lot of people are like, oh, these are like not good to do, but it is like kind of in conjunction with like my top two things on my bucket list is like elephant, I know, elephant sanctuaries or like you know, they can be like yeah, a little okay. 00:19:48 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean it's it is You're you're very right, and that is it can be controversial and there's a lot of depth to it, and so I wouldn't blanket statement sanctuaries I think the functions and the things you're able to do at certain sanctuaries, and there's a lot of behind the scenes of like, is there a traffic component here? This is actually ethical for the animal? You know, you're supposed to not you're supposed to really limit any human interaction. But at the same time, you know, if that's what's drawing, I say, for example, and that's why we went to elephant Haven, Right, if there's no one coming through those places, there's no funding, and those elephants are all orphans, what happens, right, they're no longer. So I think if it's it's trying to manage each situation and look at them specifically and not throw a blanket statement overall. And there's different regions and areas, and then you know who's the one running the place, like what's behind it, who's who's the You know, there's just a lot to consider. So you're not wrong. There's just ways to go about it in certain places that you'd want. 00:20:54 Speaker 1: To avoid exactly, So trying to do that as ethically as possible. But I love elephants, So I'm like, if I could ever see or just be in proximity close to one. I would be a dream come true. So that's what I want to do. And obviously the Safari already mentioned. 00:21:11 Speaker 2: So charity and Dotan for an elephant project would be amazing. 00:21:15 Speaker 1: No, I would actually, like, you don't understand. I would actually like, I would be crying the entire trip. I'm not Kidding's like it's number one, Like it's number one on my list of anything I need to accomplish in this lifetime. And it's that I'm so serious. So if you make it happen, I owe you my life. I'm laying it downing it down right now. Yeah, No, I love I'll follow, And I'm like, I love that. It's obviously like him explaining the whole like ethics behind it. That's obviously very huge to me because I'm like, yeah, like we're not doing anything. We're not good. I wish see world would be done like it's like stuff like that. I'm like, that's just horrifying. I'm like I can't, I can't bring myself to support. So I definitely would love to do these things the right way. So I feel like, obviously this is your line of work and you have a lot of knowledge about that. 00:22:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's already things coming to mind. In May, we're going to South Africa to execute a film project with a partner that I worked with a few times now, and that's where you know, when they need funding to maybe it's an elephant that's been you know, gored by another elephant through a tusk, or maybe they need to replace a caller for you know, science research purposes. That is an ethical way in which you can never really time it because it's only if the animal needs support funding to which you know, you can get up close and personal in a way that is supporting the reserve or the research initiatives or the vet procedures, and you can kind of help while that elephant's down, you know, taking the hair samples and measuring, and you can be up close in that way where it's you're actually supporting an initiative. And though that is that is not overly challenging to pull off, and probably doing it in May, this may anyways, but yeah, there's there's definitely opportunity. 00:23:00 Speaker 1: For all that beautiful. I do want to ask, like, and this might be it may listen fingers crossed. This might be another like dumb question, but I say, no questions are dumb, but like how like obviously Rachel went on these trips with you, but like say someone that's like listening to this, like, how is that something that's like ever accessible to like the public? Like how do people get to come on these like expeditions and do these types of things that you guys are doing. 00:23:26 Speaker 3: So we have different programs that someone we've done annually for example, you know Botswana with Rachel last year is one that we actually it's one of the ways when we can we work directly with the NGOs, which is what we do differently from any trip advisor. Wherever you're finding a safari, we build them out, not with a lodge directly, you build it out with a nonprofit partner that allows us to access exclusivity and activities that typical operators cannot, while at the same time limiting the funding that goes to operators and it goes directly to NGOs. It's a lot more working our end because we are now becoming the trip facilitator in person and all of that. But that's the way in which we can provide really rich experiences and impactful experiences where you're interacting with the NGO from the people that know it best, and so we create these programs that yes, anyone can come on and we usually run I don't know six dif different destinations a year. This year we're coming out with new ones and Maldis for the first time. Next month, Costa Rica, we'll be going to Australia. There's a bunch of new ones coming. But yes, we do offer up to other people who are like minded and want to go out and do these things and actually do more of an impact trip versus just a passive support. 00:24:39 Speaker 1: I love this. I'm like everyone should everyone should know about this, Like I don't know, Like it makes me sad though, because I'm like, you know, like people like are just so quick to just book you know whatever on their little vacation and it might not be the best like obviously thing for the animals, the environment, whatever, and it's like like, uh, yeah, I don't know, we need to like we could check a word. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:25:04 Speaker 3: I think this. You know, when you guys find out who's coming on the Tip Botswana this year, it'll, I think it'll be fun to fall along with because these people are very entertaining and you'll, you'll it'll make sense to see as you figure out. 00:25:17 Speaker 2: Who know something like Justin, Oh my gosh, it's like Justin Andrew and grud I'm gonna. 00:25:25 Speaker 1: Now is it the way? 00:25:28 Speaker 2: Did we just guess because they were he can't say, Blake if it is? 00:25:34 Speaker 1: If it is Justin, I could you would make it. No, Honestly, I could not go on that trip because I would laugh non stop. 00:25:43 Speaker 2: Can you imagine the content that's gonna come from this trip. 00:25:46 Speaker 4: I will be absolutely fallowing along. I love confirming it. 00:25:49 Speaker 2: I know. 00:25:52 Speaker 4: A treout. 00:25:55 Speaker 3: Well, you're gonna find out very soon because we're we are announcing it very very very soon. 00:25:59 Speaker 1: So exciting legendary and. 00:26:02 Speaker 3: Throwing those guys into the mix of like the you know, we're going out living in like the little little tents tents. No, no, I'm saying we as I'm not telling you, you know, living out little tents, living with the rangers and trackers who go through the habituation process. So they're going to be very out of their element of these people. 00:26:21 Speaker 2: And so so this is going to be very different than the last trip. Last trip was very fun. 00:26:25 Speaker 3: That's that's an add on. So we're going to reduce similar ridge to what you did different second location. Know how we flew or yeah, we flew into the second location that private resort or private lodge, different private lodge, different area, and it's like one of the most densely populated with leopard is going to be the wild dogs. You didn't get to see wild dogs last time. 00:26:43 Speaker 4: But you wanted to see you one so bad. 00:26:46 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're gonna get that this time. But yeah, then we're doing another three day, four day like getting in four by fours, driving into the middle of nowhere, meeting up with the rangers and living with them, boots on the ground doing their patrols and they're so it'll be Yeah, it'd be good to. 00:27:03 Speaker 4: See those guys in that wing. 00:27:05 Speaker 1: Oh wait, okay, wait, before we like switch gears, blake with what you know about me, which is like, I don't know how much, probably limited information. But do you think that I would I would do well in something like this, like a next like kind of similar to what you and Rachel did. Do you think that I would farewell? 00:27:21 Speaker 3: Yeah? I do, I do, And I think that if you it doesn't take very long, especially if it's just something specific around elephants where you're getting to live out a dream or or you just buy in, and I think once you not realize the how rewarding it can be when you're actually doing something that's impactful at the same time and it's not right and you're getting involved. It's I don't know how to explain it, aside from like you just have to do it, but it's you just buy in and and you know you're there to usually once in a lifetime you're probably not going back. And yeah, it depends you know what challenges we throw at you, and we would make sure we navigate that properly, but you know, we would know your limits before going in. But at the same time, we would challenge. We will challenge your comfort zone a little bit. And I think after no matter what, you walk and be like I'm so glad did that, or I'm so you know, you'll be just fine there there you know you yo, you're yeah. 00:28:18 Speaker 1: But there's one oh perfect, he said that one thing which is like, which is buying in. And I'm like, I feel like I do well with stuff like that. It might take me like at least twenty four forty eight hours however long, but it's like once I can see or just like I'm immersed in it. It's like I'm there and like obviously always after, I'm like, yeah, this is the best thing I've ever done for myself, so I think I would would do well. We'll say we take care. 00:28:43 Speaker 3: Of everything away, we take we took like Rachel, like, we just we handle everything. There's nothing need to really worry about at all. And uh yeah, we say up for we set you up for success, so I would not be worried at all. 00:28:55 Speaker 1: Perfect. Okay, well then it's happening. I can't wait. 00:28:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love we plan this all. I'm bachelor happy hour. 00:29:02 Speaker 1: I know we'll do like a pre honeymoon. Since he said me, I'm like, oh, this is quick. 00:29:11 Speaker 4: I need you guys on this trip. 00:29:13 Speaker 1: No, I have to, like I'm literally telling as soon as I'm done. 00:29:17 Speaker 4: Tell him in the AirPod. 00:29:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, hell, Charity, you're in New York. 00:29:22 Speaker 1: Yeah I am, yeah, h yeah. 00:29:26 Speaker 3: So okay, yeah, we can make a cabbin. I'm sure. 00:29:35 Speaker 2: After we plan Charity's honeymoon. Now we're gonna quiz you. What's the scariest experience You've ever had. 00:29:45 Speaker 3: Scariest experience I've ever had? 00:29:48 Speaker 4: Drowning one have you talked about Oh? 00:29:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was Yeah, that was not Yeah, oh man, I'm so sorry. 00:29:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that yeah, that's a bit of a long story, but really quickly. Essentially, I came back from Kenya, was really really sick and had the flu, and you're not supposed to be diving it deathly not coming back from a sickness. Had brand new fins are really really long. I hadn't dove earlier than that day, and I was wanting to get one good, big dive in and I did not realize how far down I dove on This was free diving, so no no tanks. Yeah, and by accident, not realizing that, I went down seventy feet diving with sharks. 00:30:28 Speaker 1: My god. 00:30:28 Speaker 3: And when I went down all the way down there, I remember turning around. The reason I realized that even was so deep was that I saw the bottom and I'm like, I've never seen the bottom here. It's one hundred feet of water. And so when I turned back around, I remember how far like the sun was coming through the light and the people at the top of the water just looked like ants. So I dumb started panicking a little bit, not that I was at air, but realizing I'm deep here and gravity starts to take you after thirty feet and pull. So I started fighting my way back up, expending a lot of energy and realizing then you're getting the gulp feeling of like oh man, and you're like running out of air. And then I don't remember anything about fifteen feet from the surface, and I remember feeling really woozy. I was coming up, and then I don't remember anything. Then I popped up to the top and was face down and my body was convulsive. It was like a jackhammer because I had no auction. My body so very close to having a blackout, which has killed a lot of people. I was very fortunate that somebody was right at the top to be able to put me over on my back and get me out of the water essentially. But yeah, terrifying in that, you know, the multi factors can play into these scenarios, and you know, you really got to think these things through. But it was a combination of unfortunate, unforeseen and not. Yeah, so I've learned my lesson there. 00:31:49 Speaker 1: I'm way more care No, that is very scary. First, thank you for sharing that. I mean, I can't imagine that would actually I would probably never go back. 00:31:58 Speaker 4: In the world I know I would never Yeah. 00:32:00 Speaker 1: No, oh my god, that's you need. 00:32:03 Speaker 4: To come on one time the story. 00:32:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was wild learned a lesson, but and I'm just yeah, way way more we were. I think I can do anything, you know, so like I just like I'll handle whatever album fine, I'm fine. And then sometimes you you know, you do things like that, and there's other wildlife issues like interactions and the. 00:32:24 Speaker 4: Interaction I had. 00:32:27 Speaker 3: To I mean, there's been been a few. I think, yeah, there's been there's been a few, but more so one was a part of the ranger program that I took into my certification South Africa, which was which was scary where there's a poaching incident where I was like outposted in the in the in the middle of nowhere basically with a ranger that speaks Kosa that we were both in the program together and we didn't didn't speak English very well and he had fire but we were there because Ryer would just got poached like two days before or so. We were doing like an outpost that we were in the middle of nowhere in the dark, and I remember we heard footsteps nearby, which we were supposed to like radio. It was like there's like little like there's. 00:33:10 Speaker 2: Talk about all these literally interesting full exclusive interviewing where we have all the time in the world because I'm so fascinated I. 00:33:20 Speaker 1: Do full story. It is like yeah, yeah, it's crazy, Oh my god. But I feel like, yeah, like you said, you have that person, you have to have that type of personality with like the things that you're doing, Like there's no way I'm like I would have one incident. I'm like, I'm so sorry. I love the world, but i gotta go about like that's it for me, Like we're good, okay, Oh yeah, okay, let me see. 00:33:45 Speaker 4: Like, let's go an easy one. 00:33:46 Speaker 2: I know, one of the most traumatic thing you've ever been through. 00:33:51 Speaker 4: Would you ever go back to par. 00:33:55 Speaker 1: Okay? I want to ask this one. This one is probably something Rachel already knows. But is there an animal or if there is, like, which animal are you most afraid of? 00:34:05 Speaker 3: Probably likes primates, chimps, There's something. There's a few animals that make me worried, only because I've never necessarily interact with them and because their intelligence is so high that you know, there was an instance where there's a spider monkey that skelped somebody. You know these are the instance like so, for example, right, you can kind of understand and read behavior of like a lion for example, right that you sure they can act on emotion or be triggered in some ways, but there's typical behavior that you can typically pick up on in scenarios, and you can gauge your red, yellow, you you know, green signs of like when you're safe technically even on foot. But when it comes to primates and you're thinking about the they're almost like children. So imagine that a that's how I take it a child. You take something from it freaks out, right, But this child is actually has something that is extremely strong and if they want something, they're going to take it back and they can really hurt you. And so because you can read behavior, yes, it can be a thing of I stepped on its tail by accident in this instance, right, and it wants to come back and bite. But this woman actually tried to keep it away and kick by accident. She went back into town. This is in the Amazon, in the middle of nowhere, this sanctuary in the middle of nowhere. She came back into town for two days. That spider monkey waited for her to come back on ship as soon as it saw her. Two days later how to grudge attacked her and you know, but like a chunk of her hair gone. So Pride makes extremely intelligent, incredible animals. But I think because I don't know enough about them. And there's all they're more complex than you know, reading an animal based on instinct or natural behaviors. There's other things that can trigger those animals, bam them, motion or whatever it is. And so there's just something I don't something it makes me more respect them more. 00:36:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't you have a spider monkey thing? Something happened with the spider monkey with you? 00:36:08 Speaker 3: No, I've had great instances. 00:36:11 Speaker 4: But yeah, you've had like some sorry about the spider monkey. 00:36:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just had yeah. No, oh oh capuchin. No, I got attacked by a capuchin monkey in the in the wild. Yeah. It was on the trail in front of me, and I was warned, don't go through this region of the Amazon on the way through this other building, and I had seen spider monkeys up in the tree, so I went over by myself to look at them. Kapuchin jumps onto the trail in front of me on the ground and it's being all kind of walking up to me, like turning its head and doing like this this, and I'm thinking this is this is cute. And we had worked because they are partly habituating the fact they'd just had a soft release from this sanctuary to be rewilded again. And so I'm like, okay, I think this this specific individual, I don't know who it is, but it must recognize you from maybe yesterday. I feel comfortable started coming up to me and it was started going it was going like this up like towards me, like so I naturally put my hand down and he didn't. He with his hand. He grabbed my fingers. He came up onto my hip and I'm like alone, and I'm like, this is wild. I know someone around came up onto my shoulder as soon as he came up onto my shoulder, and we were taught this in the interactions with the other putchins. Just be careful. You need to make sure you cover your ears right away if something, because they know your vulnerability and they can rip that thing off. So out of nowhere, not even yeah, out of nowhere. Two more jumped from the trees above me that had not nowhere there landed on my shoulders. I covered my ears right away and and boom, what just exactly what they said? Want one bit into my my thumb here and then bit into the back of my neck, and I didn't think. I just stayed calm. Yeah, and then because I didn't know what to do, so I just like yelled for a buddy of mine who was in a different building further away, and he came out and just like started clapping, and then they just kind of took off. But yeah, then I had like, yeah, so like and I forgot I forgot about that story. But yeah, there's primates. 00:38:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we used to know. I'm like, I learned. This is like, yeah, I'm learning so much. I could listen to I know all day long. I'm like, this is like PBS Kids for me. 00:38:24 Speaker 2: Truly, you are ansty princess like these animals just like sense that he has good intentions. 00:38:29 Speaker 1: And I know, I'm like, we need a we need a show for blank Like that's that's next. We need a little educational education. Yeah, I was, I was listen. 00:38:42 Speaker 3: Maybe one day. We're working on some things. 00:38:44 Speaker 2: So all right, well, speaking of that, would you ever do another dating reality show or you retired? 00:38:58 Speaker 3: I mean. 00:39:00 Speaker 1: That's a long pot. 00:39:03 Speaker 4: No. 00:39:03 Speaker 3: I mean I've it's been it's been three now that I've said no too within the last obviously from last year, and there's two this year, Rich you know about that, well, at least one of them, I think. Anyways, I think would have to be a very specific kind one and the right timing I think right now would be challenging to pull off because I know I know I wouldn't be the I know I wouldn't. I could go on fake it, I could go on and fake and go through the motions of it, but I know I will probably be a shitty boyfriend outside of it, knowing how much travel and stuff, and so knowing that, I know I would fail that person coming out of the show in this current moment. And so if I know that, then I would go in playing the game. And if I'm going to go in, I'd lean in. I do it right. I want to do it right. And actually yeah, you know, so yes and no, it depends on timing what show, but likely you know, going a different direction, probably not a dating one, and maybe leading into the stuff that I actually care about and and you know, more of the wildlife you venture type stuff, if anything, or a competition or something different. 00:40:16 Speaker 1: You know, actually I respect that. 00:40:19 Speaker 3: Ah what would you did you say? Would I ever be? 00:40:23 Speaker 4: Would you ever be? The Bachelor? 00:40:27 Speaker 3: Rachel m. 00:40:32 Speaker 2: So? 00:40:32 Speaker 3: I again, I think it's it's a time, it's a it's a it would be a timing thing. It would be a timing thing. And I think the other thing there is I think that if that was going to happen, people would know who I am, what they're signing up for. It's not me, it's ram coming into a you know, Shay, it was perfect match where they who's this guy? Would you travel? Explain it to me? I think people if you know you're announced, is that people are gonna know is this life for me? I see how much he's you know, and they're gonna so there's more of a guy. I think they would be more understanding, understanding. I think the challenges people don't really understand me that well, and I don't do a great job of Yeah, so mate. It would have to be the right year, and it would have to make sense, and I think a lot of things would have to come to line up, and I just so don't anticipate that ever happening. 00:41:20 Speaker 1: That's such a mature answer. I'm like, Blake, I'm like, if we were to ask anybody else about it, yeah, tomorrow, and it's like, no, damn well that they have no business doing any of that. So I respect that, I actually really do. Like that's a true, honest, genuine response. Yeah. 00:41:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, well listen, you you're not doing yourself any favors. You're wasting time. You're wasting time now. And yeah, like listen, people have a hard time as it's in the dating world, and so if you're gonna be the bachelor, you have to be and you guys know, you have to be completely in the right mindset, right spot in life. Yea. And you know if there's any you know, red flags, things you're unsure of, you know that's all going to come out in the wash in the end, because the hardest part is actually the after. I think probably right and so and so and so that that life. Yeah, listen, you owe it to somebody if they're going to be coming to spend their time and give you and devote it to you during their whole process, you better be fucking ready to give them that on the outside when the time means the most. Uh. And actually, you know, come through as the person you say you're going to be and right in this exact moment be I know it would be extremely challenging for me to that unless they could come along with me if every adventure, but then I'm taking away from their life, you know, so they'd have there's have to be a real good understanding of both parties inside. 00:42:56 Speaker 1: So I love this. Okay, Blake is our next bachelor, will have to get a cast that is purely devoted to his lifestyle. 00:43:05 Speaker 2: I'm so here for it is Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it could be a really fun season because I would think to see them like imagine the challenges like can you put up a tent? Yeah? 00:43:20 Speaker 1: I think he's like he has like the perfect like lifestyle to like honestly curate an entire season around. You know, it's like we already know what the headline would be. The thing, Like, it's just yeah, like finding someone that obviously fits the mode for y'all's lives and compatibility. But I think it would be really fun. So I'm putting your name in that. I've seen I have no powers, but I'm putting I'm putting your name in that. 00:43:44 Speaker 2: People talk about Robert Irwin being the Bachelor. If he can't, we have a Robert Irwin here. 00:43:50 Speaker 1: Robert could be the one in Australia. We love Robert, but we'll take Blake. 00:43:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, it would definitely be wild. It would definitely be wild. Some of the destination be a lot of fun if. 00:44:01 Speaker 1: That's the same. Yeah, but like and me and Rachel could come and host a little date there you got on the elephant date the elephant Oh my god, I love it. 00:44:18 Speaker 4: Well, Blake, thank you so much for being here. We loved having you. We would love to have you again to hear all your stories. But thanks for being here. 00:44:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, so much fun obviously chatting and this being our first official chat, but we have so many more to come because we have a whole honeymoon to plan with you. So you better your word. You better hold your word, Like I'm not kidding. You can't tease elephants with me. 00:44:43 Speaker 3: And the only thing on the page is the only thing on the page. 00:44:47 Speaker 1: I love that. All right, Well, that is all for today's episode. Again, Blake, thank you so much, we loved having you. And to all of our listeners, be sure to subscribe. We have way more bye interviews coming your way with Bachelor nation saves Bye Bye. 00:45:05 Speaker 4: We still don't have an. 00:45:06 Speaker 1: Ending, Yeah we don't. We're like bye, figured it out, Bye bye bye 00:45:14 Speaker 3: H