Winter Meetings Wrap-Up: Where Do the Braves Go From Here?

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, What to Episode one two five of the Hemry Territory Podcast. I'm your host of Brad Roland, coming to you on a Thursday evening. Winter meetings are over, and I'm joined by Scott Coleman Scott Shirley. The Braves did all kinds of things this week, right, It was really busy for everybody.

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Speaker 2: So this is going to be like a seven hour episode, Brad, because there is so much Atlanta Braves news and transactions to talk about. Yeah, I mean, obviously, if you're listening to the show, you know it was a very very very quiet couple of days for alex Anthopolis and the team in Dallas. That does not mean he is not working on other things. It just means he, like, frankly, a handful of other teams. I mean, you know, the Phillies I think have signed a reliever so far, and that's it. The Padres, who might have been the second best roster in the game last year. Padres haven't done much. They are contending teams who have not made a bunch of splashes yet. And it is still early mid December. There's plenty of time. But man, I'm jonesing just like everybody else. Is for a couple of moves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we all are.

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Speaker 1: I know, listening to Sean and Stephen the other night talking to them offline to Steven's about to punch someone to get a transaction of some kind. I love you, Stephen, but no, it's we're all in the same place. Everybody's kind freaking out. We'll talk about that more as we get into this podcast. But if you a new listener, welcome aboard to the podcast. We cover the braves here at Hammer Territory on a three sixty five day basis. Basically, please subscribe, rates and review the podcast, and we are part of the Foul Territory Network where we cover the whole league across the network, team shows and the flagship over at Foul Territory. But we teased about it obviously we do free shows.

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Speaker 2: This week.

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Speaker 1: We were kind of trying to do a show every day of the winter meetings and then literally nothing happened in the last day, so we skip the day. But we did cover it in full form despite nothing really happening. I think the headline thing is still and Steven and Sean did react to this yesterday. The headline's for me and you talking about briefly. As Max Freed is no longer a member of the Braves officially, I don't have much to add from what Steven and Sean said, I thought myself nodding along with their reactions and the farewell of Max. But I wanted to give you a chance here Scott's weigh in, because you know you and I covered Max for a very long time world series and all, and what was your reaction to Max designing a very very lucrative deal.

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Speaker 3: With the Yankees.

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Speaker 2: I think I can give my Max Free take, very very shortly fantastic picture by all accounts, a really good dude, and frankly, I mean Max Freed is, for my money, like a top ten pitcher in franchise history for the Atlanta Braves. But eight years and two hundred and eighteen million dollars, Brad, I don't blame the Braves for not doing that deal. And honestly, like you know, with Dansby and Freddie, I thought it was much more of a decision and a choice that the Braves made. They could have afforded to pay either of those players, the Max Freed one, even like the most diehard Max Freed fans on the Internet. I don't think anyone was really super bummed that they couldn't beat that deal. I mean eight years to eighteen. Even if Max would have given the Braves a discount it like eight years and two hundred million, I would have had no interest in that. Wish Max all the best. I hope he gets a chance to pitch against the Braves this summer when the Yankees visit Truest. But yeah, I mean, I think we all saw the writing on the wall for probably the last eighteen months, and Max is now a Yankee. It is nice that he didn't go to the Mets or one of the Braves's division rivals or the NL rivals that they have. But yeah, best of luck to Max. Enjoy that money. I would love to know what the first couple of purchases are going to be when a man gets a two hundred and eighteen million dollars guaranteed to his name. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I joked with Steve and I think it was Monday night about Max pulling the Tom Glavin and going to going to the Mets. I would not have enjoyed that. So this this is better than that. I hate the Yankees, but in a different way. At least they have to see them all the time. And you know, I know some of this is my cold dead journalistic I cover sports for a semi living heart that I'm not as emotional as some. But I think this is one where very few Braves fans that I've seen, like really really were mad about this as far as like the Brave's not paying Max this this contract. There were some out there, you know, there's there are people that are just like done with Alex and the whole thing, and it is what it is. But yeah, I mean, this is a deal that even Yankees fans in my life, people the cover Yankees, like everyone kind of agrees. And I think everyone kind of knows this. It's a pretty big overpay, like it's not. It's not like a huge mystery there. And they can afford it. I've Steven said it beautifully on the show yesterday or two days ago. The Yankees can't afford to do this. And if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. If the Braves do it and it blows up on them, it's a little bit harder to with stand with their model of how they do things. So that's that, and I was we wish Max the best, good god by all the council, Like Scott said, but a deal that was you reference stands being freddy and with that going down a rabbit hole too much. This is the one that's very very clear to me why they didn't do this. It's a pitcher who's thirty one years old for eight years at top billing. Those deals just don't work. It's basically worked one time ever Max Scherzer. In this new era of baseball where these guys in their thirties get these huge long term deals at pitcher, like the odds are against you, all those things, So Tipper Captain Max out with him at all.

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Speaker 3: Just for the record, I give him zero blame. You take the money.

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Speaker 1: If the Braves offered him seventy five million dollars less, you have to take the money. It's just what it is, responsibility wise. And uh yeah, good times great pitcher hopefully does well with the Yankees and mix us all. What kind of silly and for doubting the contract. But in the end, I think it's a pretty easy one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah me too, man. I mean I hope in nine years from now Max Freed is a is a Hall of Famer and and maybe we look back on and go ah, Man would have been great to have Max, but for everything we have talked about on this podcast this winter, a ton of risk, a pitcher who has dealt with arm and elbow injuries in the past. And again, Man, somebody offers you two hundred plus million dollars, you have to take it. And now we'll see kind of what the Braves decide to ultimately do to fill that hole in the rotation with Max. He has been one of the true steady constants in this rotation for years now. And you also have Charlie Morton who's not with the team either. So a lot of innings from not just this past season, but the last three or four years that need to be filled.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna spend a time in a second kind of going through who's left in forre agency, taking a kind of stock after winterings, and a lot of business still to be done across the league. First thing, though, beyond Max, there was some reporting from Bob Nightingale, and it is Bob Nightingale, so grains of salt appropriate here, but he was he reported the Bravesborough finalist for Garrett Crochet who was traded. He is, of course the hot shot Pitcher traded to the Red Sox for a very large package. The Red Sox to give up a lot for Gary Crochet, which is all it was always going to be for a picture like him who was so cheap. But I believe that the brains were in on him. That makes total sense to me to some degree. How far they were in is a question. But what did you make of that reporting? And you know, given like I mean, I saw you actually I saw what you wrote. I won't give it away, but let's get let's get folks to comparison for what the Braves would have given up, uh for basically the Red Sox version of what the Bras would give it up, et cetera, etcetera.

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Speaker 3: It would have been a lot.

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Speaker 2: It seems like, yeah, yeah, there was a report that when Boston made the trade for Crochet on Wednesday, that they really upped their deal on Wednesday morning in order to get the deal done. And Boston has, by everyone's account, a top five or so farm system. Not only do they have a lot of depth, but they also have high end talent, which is what teams look for if you're trying to trade away a Garrett Crochet who on a per innings basis, was one of the best pitchers in the game last year. You know, to give folks an idea, and this is not a perfect one for one comparison with Boston's prospect package, because it's possible to do that. But ye, if the Braves wanted to trade for Garrett Crochet, it would have been something like Drake Baldwin and A. J. Smith Shauber and Nacho Alvarez and more. I mean the lot that is a lot, and it would have completely decimated the farm system for Atlanta. You know, I think historically, Brad and tell me if you feel differently, but we both are the we lean more on the trade your prospects side of things. But even I would tell you that I would have not given up all of that plus more to get Garrett Crochet. Pitchers make me nervous. He is two years away from free agency, so you have to now give him an extension of some kind, and I'm guessing it's probably going to be for a lot of years and a lot of dollars. So a bummer that the Braves couldn't get Crochet. He was a player who we talked about quite a bit where if the price maybe wasn't astronomical, then I'd be all for a deal. But as we kind of suspected, the deal was astronomical. Good for Boston for giving up some pieces. They had to kind of pivot after missing out on Juan Soto and Max Freed probably didn't want to give Corbyn Burns two hundred plus million dollars and that's you know, when you have a deep, rich farm system like Boston has, you're going to go out and be able to win a prospect battle if you will, with other teams, and the Braves just really aren't in a position to do that right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we do agree on that.

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Speaker 1: I tend to lean towards trading guys that are not like the campus variety, and those are That list is short of the people think that it is. Ron McCune is the only prospect really in the last several years that I had on my like you cannot trade that guy list, and we saw that became Obviously I won't always work out that as well as that did, But most of the time I'm kind of leaning toward the trade side. If it's if it's for a reason, like Okay, let's say this, if Garrett Crochet was a position player. Let's say great Crochet was a high end, reasonably cost controlled shortstop. Yeah, I could see trading four top prospects for that guy. When it's a picture with two years left, I'm under control. Who's gonna want a lot of money beyond that? I don't want to pay market value in a trade for that guy. And look at that's one that might look great. He might he's already really good now maybe it looks awesome, But pictures are a little bit more voluable, as we talk about all the time, and just generally speaking, I don't want to do that for Yeah, two years is better than one year of control.

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Speaker 3: Who won't get on this rabbit hole right now.

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Speaker 1: But Kyle Tucker is a big name right now on the market and he has one year of control, superstar level player in the outfield. But the Astros apparently want the moon for Kyle Tucker, as they should. But like, you can't do that for what that's the mark to share vibes there where you can't. You can't trade your whole artist for one year of a guy. So there's a there is a medium where occasionally a guy will come, will come, come, available, and I'm like, hey, actually I would do the massive hole, but you're crochet as good as he is, it is not that guy for me, So yeah, I'm fine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree, And I think it just kind of proves not that it need improving, but proves that Alex Andthoppoloss is working on stuff. I know it can be infuriating that nothing has happened, not only in like the month than a half since the offseason began, but it's been like two and a half months since the Braves last played a baseball game. Brad, It's been a long time since we've had good positive news to talk about with the team. I know it's frustrating. I'm frustrated too. I promise you we would love to do a show on a trade or as signing then having to spitball and kind of do a reset of the free agent market like we're going to do here in a little bit. But I think you just have to be patient. Again, I said it the other night, I'll say it again. I think Nthopless in the front office have more than earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to building this roster. It may not always be the most obvious player available. It feels like he likes to work on the margins and grab players who maybe aren't presumed to be available. But as long as we're not having this same conversation in February, I have no problem with being patient, not overpaying and giving you another two extra years and another twenty million dollars to a free agent just because the prices are so inflated right now. I think he deserves some benefit of the doubt and patience here, And ultimately we're going to have to see where this roster shakes out, but I'm confident that it will be a really good roster when it's all said and done.

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Speaker 3: That's very well said.

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Speaker 1: I have no notes on what Scott just offered, so we are in full agreement on that. With that said, let's go to the free agent reset of sorts, And I think the big thing is what's the biggest thing right now as far as attention is concerned around the Braves. You can correct me if you think I'm wrong on this is starting pitching. Both from the beat guys. I think the fan base a lot of attension on the pitching market, and part of that's because a lot of guys have signed already, which I know Stephen and I talked about you and I talked about Stephen and Shawn talked about this week. Not a huge surprise, but a lot of pitchers are off the market, and with every guy that comes off the market, either in trade or in free agency, the pickings get slimmer in some respects. So I want to just kind of go through some names who are still available in semi tears Scott, and maybe we'll riff on few of these. You mentioned Carmin Burns earlier. He's the one, like top top top guy available. Still we've been in agreement before that the Brays. It would be a surprise at the pres got the corn Burn's bidding. Do you feel the same way now, just to check that box.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And there was a report that Corbyn Burns likely wants to pitch on the West coast and there he's a California kid, he has a house in Phoenix. I think so yeah, I mean it makes sense he wants to be out west. I think the Giants are probably the heavy leaders in the clubhouse for Burns right now.

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Speaker 1: So sure, if you want to get into Kurban Burns, we'll talk about it. If that happens, but until we get a rumbling there, I would probably assume no. Then you have Jack Flaherty, who is kind of in that second tier down along with maybe Sean and I. I think Flaird's like a half tier higher than Shaan and Ia probably as far as like how much they're gonna get. Manai's probably in that tier that was previously occupied by guys like Nathany Vivaldi you said Kakuci Etctera, whereas Flarity's kind of in the middle, like one hundred million dollars ish projections for Jack Flarity. Those guys would be interesting additions. And then there's Rookie. There's there's Rookie Sasaki, who's the wild card who we have discussed before. But it's a posting system that there's no bidding war there. There's been zero Braves buzz.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Those are those are three names, Scott, That's all I'll say. Those are three names that are out there.

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Speaker 2: Still, I would not order a Jack Flaherty, Rookie Sasaki or Sean Maniyah, Braves Jersey maybe if they're still floating around. I mean, I don't know, man, I guess I guess the real takeaway is guessing what Alex Ntopolos is going to do.

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Speaker 3: It's probably probably a.

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Speaker 2: Losing game, but I don't especially Flarity, I would be shocked.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I think I think Manaia seems more plausible to me. I'm not saying it's going to happen. It probably won't. He seems like that is if the market's not there, like if he signs a deal that's in the range of what Kakuchi got or something like that, or even what you've already got, Like I wouldn't like fall on the floor if they give up that contract to shaw Manyah, I'm not projecting it to happen, but right, I mean, Flarerty's market will have to be wrong. And basically every projection of every player so far has been too low for the most part, with very few exceptions, and Flary was getting projected to get like one hundred million dollars, So I would be surprised if the if the Briggs beat him, beat that projection object player, that's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. And then another pitcher who's really interesting, We've talked about him quite a bit is Walker Buehler. Yep, Now you know I kind of felt like Buehler might need like a one plus one deal or a one year bounce back or a mutual option in there. But there was a report today, and of course this is it makes sense if it's coming from an agent, But there was a report today that Walker Buehler is looking for a multiple year deal with player opt outs. Uh. Those are like the worst contracts imaginable for a team from like a team perspective. I don't think Anthopolis has ever done a player opt out deal either, So that's really the case. If teams are willing to give Buehler multiple years and opt outs, maybe plural opt outs, I'm gonna guess that Buehler is not a realistic option, even if we kind of felt like he might be an option a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: I would agree if that if that report is real, and we don't know, but if that is real, I teddergree with you. And you know, Evaldu was very clearly the number one guy as far as like how often they were linked to the Braves. Viewer's probably second on the list publicly, but uh, I would not cross him off, but that he falls down the list.

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Speaker 3: If that report holds up, so we'll see on that.

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Speaker 1: And you know, again, just to rehash a little bit, he used to be a ACE level guy, got hurt last year, was not very good, but then got Stummer's Heason went on like intriguing, like in theory Alex Alex style move. But if the market's there for him to get a lot of money, then maybe maybe not.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll spend like three years since Walker Bueller was like a legitimately good pitcher, so we're not We're not talking about a guy who missed half a season here and he's gonna be an ACE. I mean there's a lot of risk and yeah, so that was again just one report, but I did want to mention that because I know Bueler is a popular name on everywhere. Basically makes sense to me.

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Speaker 1: The only other guy who I think is like a legitimate potential top three guy in a rotation that's still available in free agency. Again this is all free agents, not trades free agents, is Jeff Hoffman. So Jeff Hoffman is a Ronaldo Lopez style reliever who could who has started before it could start again. So there's a little bit of like, all right, well, well there won't they on the whole market with Jeff Hoffman. But Steven our colleague pointed out today on Twitter, I'm not sure, I'm not sure if you saw this or not, but that Jeff Hoffman has the same agent as Ronald Lopez and that is very obviously the natural comparison. That's not just a brain comparison. I see that comparison made across baseball of like, hey, remember last winter when we'reald A. Lopez was a reliever, got a bargain beIN contract compared to what he could have been as a starter. They can vernon him. That was the plan the whole time. We kind of honestly we doubt that they were gonna do it. They ended up doing it. It worked out great, et cetera, et cetera. I'm not saying they're in exactly the same situation, but if Jeff Hoffman is willing to start and would sign for a cheaper deal than someone like Sean Manya would, it becomes pretty appealing at the brace believe that you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I am officially intrigued by Hoffman. I think the real appeal is, Okay, you sign him as a starter, maybe he really wants to start, Okay, make him a starter, Say Jeff, we're gonna let you start for April and May. We're basically gonna give you Spencer Striders spot in the rotation until Spencer comes back. And if you have a three ERA, you're a starter. If you have a five ERA and you're struggling to get through the fifth inning, you're going back to the bullpen where he has been a dominant, truly elite reliever for years with Philadelphia. So in that sense, it's kind of a no loose proposition in my eyes. If you get Rinaldo Lopez two point zero, I mean, there is so much or plus value in that. And if he stinks as a starter and he or just you know, he's just not that good because he hasn't been a starter for a long time. Okay, you make him a reliever. He's your eighth inning guy along with Pierce Johnson and Dylan Lee and whoever else. There are avenues for that contract you really pay off. And again, as long as he isn't going to get like a four or five year deal, which would be kind of crazy to me, I am officially in on Hoffman. If he really is kind of open to being both a starter and or reliever, depending on how things go.

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Speaker 1: It's ironic that pitch you just gave was very similar to what we thought was gonnapen with Ronaldo back on our old podcast about what ten months ago when they signed Rolopus. Yeah, and we were like, all right, the Braids were saying the right things. They were like, all right, we're gonna let him start. We're signing him to start. We'll give him a chance to do that. They never wait from that. But the reality was it didn't happen. But the reality was if he didn't look good doing that, he was going to the bullpen at some point. And that would be the case with Hoffman too. But again, there's a price point where that's okay. Renald's press point was three years and thirty million. That was totally fine. If you're giving him four years and sixty billion, that's not fine, you know what I mean. There's a happy medium there if there's a possibility him being a reliever. So that's all, that's what it comes out to, Like, is there a real betting of work with off the.

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Speaker 3: We just don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and one other just quick note on Hoffman, then we'll move on, you know, right, sown Iglesias is only signed for one more season after this, so the Braves might need their closer or yeah, I know there's a never ending debate about closers. Verst just have good relievers and figure out roles. But Hoffman did close out games for Philadelphia, so again, Man, there are avenues for him to have a real role with this team, whether it's a starter, a reliever, setup man, closer, and down the road, whatever it might be.

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Speaker 1: I want to stop here for a second and insert the name of Charlie Morton, not from my own personal gratification Scott, but because he makes sense in this slot. We talked about the guys who were all better than him, like clearly better than him. Now a gatt to the tier where it's not clear that they are than him, and he has the Braves connection. Relatedly, this week, Jason Stark of The Athletic and Real Reporter reported that Morton is still deciding if he even wants to pitch next season. There's been some reporting locally that Moore wants to pitch more and wants to pitch I trust to the Stark reporting. I'm might say he's right, but that's a real report to say, Morton's not even committed to pitching yet. Also, Dob of The Athletic as well reported this week that the Braves and Charlie have not been really talking lately, which doesn't mean they're not going to talk again, but they haven't been talking.

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Speaker 3: That was notable to me as well. But when I will say this, like.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm the Morton guy, so paint me the picture of you that you want to His projections for next year. I know he's old, we all understand are kind of the same almost to the tea of guys who are getting like fifteen million year on this market because the market's so inflated. I'm not saying pay him that. To be very clear, he is forty years old, but like he's still as good as like the rest he's got. They're about to talk about, like pick your guy here, Nick Plavetta, Andrew, Kyle Gibson, Like Morton is still on the same level as these guys. It's just maybe a one year commitment versus maybe you have to give Kyle Gibson two years or three years. Like That's that's kind of where emotion towards Charlie's side it might be appealing to Alex to just have a one year deal because he loves one year deals.

00:22:15
Speaker 2: I don't know, like objectively, Charlie Morton is a fourth fifth starter. And if you're gonna pay a fourth fifth starter ten twelve million dollars, that is the going rate in today's game, very much so, so you know.

00:22:29
Speaker 3: It's fifty fifty month. Just for the record.

00:22:32
Speaker 1: Matthew Boyd, who is not very good, honestly, hasn't he's been okay, he got two years twenty nine million.

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Speaker 2: M hmm.

00:22:37
Speaker 1: Frankie Mantas got what three years? It was at least two at fifty to sixty million dollars Like those those guys are not better than Charlie Morton. It's kind of it's kind of crazy where the market's gone. But just for just to use the actual names of people who are basically in Charlie's neighborhood, if nothing else, they're getting real money.

00:22:54
Speaker 2: Man.

00:22:54
Speaker 1: This market is not just for the top guys. This this market's all lot for everybody. It's been heated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. If you have a young one at home and you're listening to the show tape a baseball, Yeah, tape a baseball and his rider left hand and say go get them, kid. You're going to carry this with you everywhere because pitchers are getting paid at crazy levels this winter. So I think for Charlie I wouldn't be shocked if they circle back to him at some point this offseason. I do think you probably can and should aim higher and then just see where prices are, what prospect costs are for players, if you're going to make a trade again. I would certainly not put it at zero percent that Charlie's coming back, but it might be more like twenty twenty five percent to me. And as you said what Jason Stark reported that Charlie might decide, you know what, I'm done, or you know what, the best deal I have here is eight million dollars and it's just not worth it to me as someone who's made one hundred and twenty five million dollars in my career or whatever it is. So Charlie, I think he's on the back burner. If the Braves reunite again, it seems doable. He would have a role on this team for sure, even if it's just kind of a fifth innings, fifth starter innings either. Yeah, teams need that and uh, we'll see where where Charlie ultimately lands, assuming he wants to keep pitching.

00:24:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone does.

00:24:11
Speaker 1: And I'm trying not to be the Morton guy because I'm we agree by the way, he is not some high profile got to have him that guy, even for me, Like, I just think he's a reasonable option that they have a relationship with. And uh, maybe this is for later on the off season, but I kind of maybe hooke's not the right word. I can imagine Charlie deciding he doesn't want to pitch and then pulling a Roger Clemens and coming back in like may hmm, you know what I mean? Brave specifically, because the Braves have relationship, Like somebody goes down and they're like, hey, Charlie, you sure you don't want to pitch, buddy, here's eight million dollars for four months, you know what I mean. Like, I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but it's like that relationship and the geography of it all. He likes to pitch in the Southeast, all those things, Like I just wouldn't close the door. But you're right, it's not likely to happen. I don't think anybody's saying.

00:24:56
Speaker 3: That it is.

00:24:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, Charlie will be around, Braves have time again. I know everybody is fiending for a move anything. Hell, I would take a j mintor re signing. I don't care.

00:25:07
Speaker 3: Oh that's even that, that's higher that I was. I would.

00:25:10
Speaker 1: I would take a platoon left fielder signing right now to give.

00:25:14
Speaker 3: Us something to talk about. Uh you know what I mean?

00:25:16
Speaker 2: Just we would set records on the show.

00:25:18
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's true, if they just cyber more Loreano back, it would be like shattering our downlads record right here in mid December.

00:25:26
Speaker 3: So no, I think we're in agreement there. I threw up these names a couple of these games.

00:25:30
Speaker 1: Already in regard to in regard to Morton, but just to say them out loud. Andrew Heaney interesting fourth fifth starter type. Nick Pavetta, same thing. Kyle Gibson is like the most ning Zeter guy ever, not very good, just but as a professional pitcher, like it doesn't is it gonna kill you? Then you have like Hosey Kintana, not very good, but same thing, veteran fifth starter type. They're not none of None of these guys that are remaining are particularly awesome names. The two old guys shurez Er and Verlander out there. Lance Lynn is pretty old lower Those are lower costs than I think what you have to pay he Need or Pavetta. But just to say, a bunch of names in a road. Does anyone do you like? Anybody of this list? Anyone appeal to you?

00:26:11
Speaker 2: The only one I think I would be excited about would be Nick Pavetta. He does do some things that are interesting. He's not a perfect pitcher by any means, but if his market maybe doesn't develop. You know, Pavetta also has a qualifying offer attached, which I forgot.

00:26:29
Speaker 3: I forgot about that, right he does.

00:26:31
Speaker 1: That's that's not gonna be Uh well, I should I should say what I always say. It wouldn't scare me off, but it might scare some teams off. That's all I would say about that.

00:26:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I mean the hit rate. I know, I know the MLB draft is very unique with money and slot bonuses and all that, But I mean just saying what it is. The money allotted to a.

00:26:52
Speaker 1: Third round pick or whatever the Braves would lose because of that is is so small potatoes in the in the grand scheme. If you want the guy, like you have to Yeah, honestly, you have to really want the player to do this. So it's not like, all right, well, I guess we'll sign it Pavetta. Like you have to actively want him to make it worth it. But if you do want him, I personally don't care as much as some seem too. There's some fans that even media members are like, oh, Qualifi offer attached, cross them off.

00:27:17
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know about that. I wouldn't do that necessarily.

00:27:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not that impactful. Like you said, the Braves are not just actively looking to get rid of their draft picks by any means. But if the Veta's price is kind of in their sweet spot and they do like him, I think at the start of the off season, I want to say, Jeff Passon said the Braves were interested or at least had some level of interest in Pavetta. Who knows that it's been a week since then, And I really, I mean trying to guess the market for starting pitchers right now. Whatever you think it is, yeah, whatever you think it is at a year and twenty million dollars more. But again, man, I mean the Braves have to add somebody, and if they don't want to unload the farm for a picture, then maybe you do have to overpay a bit for Pavetta or one of these remaining arms, because I mean, you can't go into next season without doing anything. That would be terrifying to me.

00:28:09
Speaker 1: And Alex has kind of said that, and we won't do the whole spield now, but you do need ten eleven twelve storry pitchers. It's something that's been researched that we've laid out on the podcast before, Like people always ignore it and point to like the top five or six, but no, you got to have nine, ten eleven. Anyway, let's move one to the outfield and we'll be shorter on this. There are not that many options available on the outfield. The top two as far as projections are concerned, Anthony sent Tender and Tasker Hernandez not connected to the Braves at all, either one of them right now. Doesn't mean they can't sign them, but certainly not screaming off the page at me as like super alexy targets. And then you have Jerks and Profar who is kind of in the I think he actually might be a little bit alexy to be honest, I've circled him a little bit, not that I've heard anything, but I think he'd be more of the Braves speed.

00:28:58
Speaker 3: But I might be wrong about that.

00:28:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that trio. I think Profar is probably the only one who I could really see the Braves going for. I mean, Santander can really hit, but I mean I'm guessing someone overpays. Maybe one of the teams that did not get Soto overpay for him. You know. The other outfielder who's kind of interesting to me, Brad is Max Kepler, a guy who we've talked about. I know Sean and Steven have talked about. We don't have to do twenty more minutes on Max Kepler because frankly, he's just not that good of a baseball player. But you know what, he is totally fine if you tell me the Braves add him as an outfielder, Okay, it'd be all right.

00:29:39
Speaker 3: You know, I wouldn't be.

00:29:39
Speaker 2: Super pumped, but you can do worse, and he's been better at times, although he's coming off a down year in twenty twenty four. But you know, to me, of all the free agent outfielders, that kind of group of four I think are we'll call him needle movers, and then there are a few others who I mean, sure they could sign him, but I'm not sure it really does anything more than like a Jared Kellneck could do next year.

00:30:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of treated by Alexfordugo, not blown away but intrigued.

00:30:06
Speaker 3: Old Pad Jason Heyward.

00:30:07
Speaker 1: I'd like to see back in a similar role that he's been in before.

00:30:11
Speaker 3: With some teams.

00:30:13
Speaker 1: There are a couple of like dash leaning guys Jesse Winker and old pal Jack Peterson. But the problem is that defensively it's not great, and Jock's like almost a basically at this point.

00:30:26
Speaker 2: Jock is probably a moderately better jorgees Solayer. But again, I mean he he was basically a full time DH. He's getting older, even even when he was younger.

00:30:35
Speaker 1: Josh too, so like Jock would mash Righty's and that is very useful, which is I think it's appearing to a lot of different people. But uh, the defense is probably what stops the brace. But look, maybe there's a price where it's worth it. I don't I don't think that they would just cross the relationships there, of course. I just think that there will be a team that could him, that will give HM money in the brace do that.

00:30:56
Speaker 2: So yeah, Jock is definitely going to have suitors. I would be shocked if he's sitting around on February first looking for a place to play.

00:31:05
Speaker 3: He will not be.

00:31:06
Speaker 1: The exact opposite of Jock is Harrison Bader, who is a great defender who can't hit. I shouldn't say can't hit, but it's a blow abagator. I don't know if the Braves want that kind of player. I mean, I wouldn't be the worst idea in the world, but they kind of don't need him. If they did not Michael Harris, then sure, but Baterer's value is kind of tied to his glove. And then the other guy will just say I think I mentioned him earlier, but Ramon Loreano's out there. Uh, he won't move the needle. But if you were to go into the season without the guy that you actually wanted, and you wanted to just get a right handed bat somewhere and the outfields a pair with Kellnick.

00:31:38
Speaker 3: Ramond come on home for a reunion, maybe.

00:31:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's funny. I just did a write up for Battery Power on Ramon Loriano's season, and again we'll say it out the jump. Ramone was a godsend for this show. Was like capital letters. This dude saved the outfield. Everybody was hurt, nobody was hitting. But Loreano carried a three ninety batting average on balls and play for those who don't love that stat that is ninety points higher than league average. And Ramone carried like a three percent walk rate with the Braves.

00:32:13
Speaker 3: Yeah it is.

00:32:13
Speaker 2: You are tiptoeing a very fine line of offensive production if you don't walk and rely on a three to ninety babbeb to get you get your home on offense. Again, man not taking a thing away because he was.

00:32:26
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, Loreano was like the third best hitter in this lineup behind Ozuna and Olsen the last two months of the season.

00:32:33
Speaker 2: But I you know, if they want to bring him back, sure, but I don't think you can count on Loreano to do much other than be a fourth outfielder for this team.

00:32:42
Speaker 1: We agree horribly on that. So that's the outfield market as far as again just free agency. There are trade targets too, and we've said this more than most have, but Alex is not afraid to make a trade Chris Sale as a recent example. It's not always free agency with this team. It is often trades in fact, so keep that in mind. Shortstop, we don't have to do.

00:33:00
Speaker 3: It again, do we.

00:33:00
Speaker 1: It's hass On Kim or nothing. It feels like, yep, are we good on that? Scotts on Kim and nothing and shortstop, okay.

00:33:05
Speaker 2: Move on? Yeah?

00:33:07
Speaker 1: And then and then there's the relievers. Tanner Scott's the big is the big name. I don't think there are gonna sign Tenner Scott if I had to guess, but he's out there. Honestly, after him, it's probably a j minter for me anyway, as like the best guy available maybe David Robertson, who is the Charlie Morton aged reliever who will never die, who's still good after that, it's like a bunch of like guys, ironically, a lot of former Braves still available, a lot of old guys who are former Braves. And also Michael. Also, Michael Soroka is a by all accounts in a pre appealing reliever free agent again, a stress reliever. Most teams view as a reliever at this point, but he'd be pretty interesting in that role.

00:33:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Siroka, Kirby Yate came off a great year.

00:33:47
Speaker 3: He was Chris Martin. Maybe bring him back Chris Martin. Yeah, you're right.

00:33:50
Speaker 2: There really is a long list of.

00:33:51
Speaker 3: Like, oh wow, old Braves guy Kelly Jensen is still there too.

00:33:54
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not kidding Honestly, some injections they're like they're like five of the next seven really or former Braves.

00:34:00
Speaker 3: It's actually quite funny.

00:34:01
Speaker 2: So, yeah, the Braves are gonna add something to the bullpen. I think maybe the bullpen.

00:34:07
Speaker 1: Might be a trade that they traded for all the guys that they all the all the recent editions like you know, Pierce Johnson and Aaron Book, they're all trades everybody got.

00:34:17
Speaker 3: They all traded for these guys. So it's not like they just you know, do this.

00:34:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, like literally more than half of the bullpen, we're all traded for.

00:34:24
Speaker 1: A Gleasis was basically a fraid and signing. But they traded for him, like they traded for a four year contract more than anything else. But they did trade for him. It wasn't assigning, like he wasn't just available. So Alex is not afraid to make trades. Anything else to add here. Scott on on on players that are available in free agency. That's kind of the rundown. If the list is like cut, it's been like cut in half, but there's still a lot of names here. It's just more of the exercise of like trying to be comprehensive to say, all right, there's always so many names available, So as they keep come off the market, the market gets smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller. It's still relatively early, but everybody hates that is relatively early, but it's gonna get late faster and faster.

00:35:04
Speaker 2: Yeah. Usually with pre agency, there's the winter meetings, and then there's usually like a two week period between the Winter meetings and Christmas when all the front office is closed down between basically Christmas and New Year's. But even though the Braves didn't do something during the couple of days at the winter meetings, a lot of times you'll see a lot of activity, like the following weekend or even like the following Monday and Tuesday. It just takes time to get these deals together and see and then once things kind of ramp back up, usually it's not until like the second week of January when stuff starts to happen, but there's usually a second wave from maybe like January to the beginning of February, and then you're to like pitchers and catchers reporting and kind of the stragglers who sign on for late for whatever reason. But again, I feel like we're broken records, but we know Alex is working. I don't want this to sound like we're Alex fanboys and we're just banging the drum. We really want to move and all that. But you know, patients, I know it's frustrating with patience is a virtue, and we just kind of got to wait and for that blue square to pop up and then see what way they're going, because there are a lot of questions about this team still.

00:36:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, the idea that Alex is just like sitting on a beach somewhere, which people are literally saying like Alex is just like meddling it in.

00:36:16
Speaker 3: I'm like, you guys are out of your mind.

00:36:17
Speaker 1: So you know, I could guarantee he's making twenty calls a day, or fifty calls a day, or a hundred calls, whatever it is. Uh, it's just that he works quietly, which is usually a strength I think of Theirs.

00:36:27
Speaker 3: But well we will see.

00:36:29
Speaker 1: Speaking of the of the Blue Square, they did make a couple of Rule five additions. We don't know nothing about these guys, I will say, beyond their box scores. I don't maybe you do, Scott. But they brought in Anderson Polar. I think it is from the Marlins right headed pitcher Christian Cairo, a short stot for the Guardians organization. Both guys could be in camp looking for depth roles, but there are the intriguing sort of circumstances with Rule five picks where you've gotta have to keep him around.

00:36:55
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe the Braves.

00:36:57
Speaker 2: The Braves really have not done a ton of Rule five drafting in recent years as a just a quick refresher. So basically it's it's players who were not put on forty man rosters by other teams who have contract stipulations or rules that you either have to be on the forty man or you risk losing the player to the Rule five draft. When the Braves took two players, I was like, wow, okay, they haven't done that in a minute. But essentially, if they want to keep Anderson Polar or Christian Castro around. They essentially have to be on the twenty six man roster all year long or they risk being returned to their old team. Yep. It only costs one hundred thousand bucks to draft these players, if you will. So it's kind of.

00:37:41
Speaker 1: That is that is basically free? Yeah, that for a baseball team. That's the that's that's free for you and I, Scott, we couldn't afford to pay.

00:37:49
Speaker 2: You know, that's one hundred grand Brad, that's right.

00:37:51
Speaker 1: But no, I mean, okay, ask you this symbill move a lot of promise. What are the chances that they both are on the team all year long?

00:37:59
Speaker 2: Oh? I was gonna say two percent? Okay, So I actually I actually think Anderson Polar, the reliever from the Marlins, has a it's pretty interesting. You know.

00:38:08
Speaker 1: He has relievers too, Like relievers ye come out of nowhere. I mean, I will say this, I kind of trust Alex to find relievers. He's been doing it his entire time in Atlanta. They've been good or always better than the people thought they were going to be at the bullpen. I'm not saying I'm not saying that he's going to be one of them, but they see something that they like and for that be the eighth man of the bullpen. Like it's pretty low bar so like I kind of think he might be a relevant piece.

00:38:34
Speaker 2: Chelsey. Yeah, it's effectively one hundred thousand dollars tryout to spring training. If they're not good or you just squeeze them off the roster, you give them back, more than likely you're not out anything at all. And but yeah, so we'll keep an eye on these guys in the spring and maybe they flash. It's not I mean, there are stories of Rule five draft picks being I think Justin Turner is like the most famous who went on to have an incredible career. I think I think Turner was a Rule five pick, unless I'm mixing him up with someone, which I don't know, but regardless, actually you know who.

00:39:04
Speaker 3: You know who else was?

00:39:04
Speaker 1: I remember this now from looking at something else. Uh, Anthony said, tend there rule five pick. Oh wow, and now he's gonna get Now he's gonna get a hundred million dollars probably from somebody, so not a bad lie. Yeah, I mean, that's that's again, that's mostly the outlier. It's usually not guys they like like that, but they do happen every once in a while. Scott before me that here I got a pretty interesting mailbag question. And it's not from me, folks, I promise it's from Brad F. Not Brad or Brad F set this question into us. Didn't make it up, I promise. He asks us, if all of the Phragian deals so far that have been signed, are there any that you flat out wish the Braves would have signed for the price that they actually got, And Brad throws out that his pick is Kakuchi, which is three years asking some three million dollars.

00:39:52
Speaker 3: Not an a reasonable pick.

00:39:54
Speaker 1: You go, fort Scott, anybody you want, anybody you want that's been signed so far, you could say once, so if you want to, it just wouldn't have would have never happened. It's us not the craziest answer that I would that you could give. But okay, yeah, well, also we'll try to be realistic ish with the Braves constraints. You and I are very big on the it's not our money thing, which I still stand by, like sign everybody you want to, all of you come down.

00:40:17
Speaker 3: But it was cross Soto off because that.

00:40:20
Speaker 1: Was not going to actually happen. But I guess everybody else is for sure, you know, of all the deals so far, it's good question. Blake Snell got a ton of money on a yearly basis. We got the big signing bonus, but you know, five for one eighty two. The fact that it's only five years for Snell made it really intriguing to me because when Max got eight. That's the thing, like, compare those two guys. Snell is probably better than Max right now and I've got three three last years. Yeah, and Corbyn Burns is probably going to get eight years as well. So I would have done the Blake Snell deal and.

00:40:55
Speaker 2: Just pray that he stays mostly healthy for those five years because it is a lot of yearly You know, Nathan Eovaldi for three years seventy five million didn't like make me fall out of my chair. It's it's more money than I was thinking or what I would have wanted to pay. But you know, at the end of the day, if I was down with like a three year, sixty million dollar contract, is five million dollars more a season when the team's running a two hundred and fifty million dollars payroll, Is it that much? No? Not really, so Snell and Eovaldi were the kind of the bigger, more recent signings I would have been cool with. And then Shane Bieber, who there was some reporting that Bieber took less money to stay in Cleveland, where he's been his whole career. I would have done Shane Bieber. It was ten million bucks and then a sixteen million dollar option next year. That kind of feels like a no lose proposition to me, unless he gets hurt again. But really, of all the deals, you know, Williadamas, I love Willia Damas, but man, seven years for a guy who's going to be like thirty six or thirty seven when that deal ends, that's kind of scary. Yeah, So I would say, if I had to pick one, I would be down with Blake Snell just because of how I mean, he was literally the best pitcher in the game, up there with Chris Sale pretty much once he got healthy and returned in the middle of the summer. If if he's anything close to that going forward, I mean, goodness, gracious.

00:42:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, the high dollar, high dollar guys, that's probably the right answer. I agree with you a whole heart of that.

00:42:27
Speaker 2: They of aaldi.

00:42:28
Speaker 1: I would have if you said okay, right now on December twelfth, knowing when we do what we know about the market and what's left, I would have done that. I think it's a little bit of an overpay free Evaldi, but I would have done it. It's only three years, which is a big part of that too. I like the Cuuci too. I think that you could argue he's a better value than he of Aldy, Like they're pretty similar pictures at least last year, and he got four million a year.

00:42:49
Speaker 3: Less, Like that's not that's not nothing to uh for that.

00:42:54
Speaker 1: I think Tyler O'Neill not what the Braves needed as far as like he's a right headed bat all those things like that's probably when they didn't get.

00:43:01
Speaker 3: And that was it.

00:43:01
Speaker 1: That was probably the most reasonable value of anyone that's signed so far. This winner three for forty nine over that was Alex Cobb is like extremely brazy. They didn't do it, but it was one year, fifteen million. That's like an Alex contract. Bieber's the right answer, Like it's kind of a cheat code because, like you said, I got reported multiple times for multiple people that he took less money. So it's like, hey, give me the guy took Less to stay. But we were not revigious there.

00:43:26
Speaker 2: I was on.

00:43:27
Speaker 1: We brought Bieber early. We were all like, hey, sign Shane Bieber, like that was like two months ago.

00:43:31
Speaker 3: We said that. So I don't know if if.

00:43:32
Speaker 1: I gotta pick one, I don't want to agree with the question. It might be Kakoucie, but I'll say I will say Eovaldi still, even though that's too much money for him. But there's the old adage that I think Steven and Sean brought up the other day that it's an Andrew Friedman quote. But if you're if you're in on every free agent, and you're and you're trying to be rational, you'll finish third and every free agent.

00:43:55
Speaker 3: That's kind of where we are right now.

00:43:56
Speaker 2: Man.

00:43:56
Speaker 1: The market is what the market, what the market is. And I'm not kidding you. I looked today again just to make sure I wasn't crazy. There is not a single deal of a top fifty ish free agent that I think was actually a bargain. The closest one is Tyler O'Neal I think, and besides Bieber, who again took Less and as a recogbection project coming off of an injury et cetera. Of the guys who are healthy, every single person got as much or more than they were projected to get. That's it's kind of crazy. That's just where we are.

00:44:24
Speaker 2: Man. Everybody's getting paid Yeah, ten to fifteen to twenty percent across the board, and not just one projection. Like, it's not only MLB trade rumors was low on these guys, ESPN, Fangraphs trade rumors even like the crowdsourcing numbers that fangraphs does where all of them players by the way, you know, players get like five thousand predictions from from like knowledgeable fans, fans who go to fangraphs, like you're more than your casual baseball fans, and even they like blew away those expectations.

00:44:56
Speaker 1: We should do a show about this at some point. Maybe, I just it's just kind of occurring to me now in real time. This is like Alex's nightmare market.

00:45:04
Speaker 2: Oh, like, just gave it.

00:45:06
Speaker 3: It's not like breaking news or anything. I'm just saying that.

00:45:07
Speaker 1: Allow like Alex tends to not like to be the top person on the top sexy free agent, and that's when every single, every single one of these guys has been like that and it's kind of crazy, like I'm sure he's pulling his hair out right now. And look, there's a whole debate maybe we can have on a podcast in the near future that I'm not blaming fans, Like there are fans that are just like, do something now. I don't care. Pay the guy whatever Alex stinks, Fire him because we won't pay somebody that's all silly. Of course, there are degrees to this, but I get that there's a school of thought that Alex is too patient. And I know myself enough to know that I am dead inside and I cover I cover sports more professionally, less emotionally than most, So it doesn't bother me because the results have been so good for so long from Alex. He's not foolproof. He misses, he misses on stuff, no question about that. But like it's easier for me to be like, guys speak. I know you said this earlier, Scott, you're saying it too, but I do get it, especially winter meetings when like the whole world's throwing money around and you just do nothing. Like even I, the dead inside person'saying, all right, guys, well what are we doing?

00:46:12
Speaker 3: It's time to do something?

00:46:14
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know what, rad if we were here and a dozen free agents had signed contracts that were like very fair and reasonable, and if there had been two dozen trades already where it's like damn okay for like the ninth prospect in the Braves's mediocre system would have been you know, enough to get a player who would have been an impact edition, then I think we'd be pounding the table a little bit harder. Again, it might get to that point in the offseason where we're doing a show it's like, what the hell, what are they doing?

00:46:44
Speaker 1: Like we've already said that, but like and we're not afraid to do that, Like if they get if they don't do anything, if they dunk the luxury tax for money reasons, like.

00:46:52
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call them out for it.

00:46:54
Speaker 1: I'm not.

00:46:55
Speaker 3: I'm not afraid of doing that at all.

00:46:57
Speaker 1: It's just that it's December twelfth, and I think some of the reaction is acting like it's February twelfth. If it's February twelfth and this is the roster, we're gonna have some pointed questions. Yeah, I just don't think we're there yet another month. Questions get louder a month after that, it's like, all right, we're gonna have meltdowns, and not just for the content and look substantively, we want content to talk about the podcast, but also as people that are covering the team and looking at baseball all day long.

00:47:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, just go ahead and get in the market. So I think Alex could do something. I'm he's just never not. It's not it's not.

00:47:30
Speaker 1: It's not like copy where there was a deal every five minutes. But Alex, it's not a passive executive. He's been very creative aggressive. You know, he's not gonna sit back and do nothing. I just don't see that happening.

00:47:42
Speaker 3: So we'll see.

00:47:43
Speaker 2: And when so much of your core is signed to long term deals.

00:47:47
Speaker 3: That that's the thing.

00:47:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like you there is there is left to do for the brains that there are for a lot of teams. And that's the thing about signing everyone to that blue square is that you're just locked in. Like how many teams in baseball have seven of their nine positions just totally locked in on December twelve?

00:48:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, very few.

00:48:07
Speaker 3: The Breds will maybe go.

00:48:08
Speaker 1: Only one like and I mean not even locked in, like firmly locked in, like with a guy that they like, super duper like at all of those spots like it's hard. It's hard to do that and also make a ton of moves.

00:48:20
Speaker 2: So yeah, patients, we will get there sooner hopefully rather than later. But yeah, I mean, I know, if we don't get a move in like a week, Brad, the Twitter streets might be set on fire.

00:48:35
Speaker 1: But Steve off the air at some point we don't get a move, Steven's gonna have a mount down on the air if we don't have a move, high Steven, just to take listeners behind the curtain. I texted Scott today and said we should we should do a show. How how about twenty twenty five minutes or at the fifty minute mark because Scott and I are talking about baseball that's what we do.

00:48:54
Speaker 3: So sorry about this for the long give up. Probably like this though we're.

00:48:57
Speaker 1: Going to the weekend, a little longer episode, a little bit, a little the loose episode on a Thursday night. In some respects, other people enjoyed it. Scott, anything else to add? If not, please tell books that might be new to the podcast. They're just finding us now. By the way, if this is your first episode, God bless you. We're button up sometimes. But hey, Scott, what's going on where if people find you on social media and such?

00:49:16
Speaker 2: I am at Scott Coleman fifty five wherever you do your social media. Nice to do one of these extended shows with you, Brad on a Thursday night here. Hope everybody out there is doing well, and yeah, man, let's get a deal. Well, I'll I'll get on the phone with Alex and say, listen, buddy, I know you promised me me directly a deal over the weekend for podcast content. But I stuff happens. Let's let's get it going here. Maybe like a nice Monday morning deal or something like that for the people.

00:49:45
Speaker 1: That would be nice for everyone involved, other than maybe me, because I'm going to Las Vegas to cover the Atlanta Hawks, the red hot, scalding hot NBA Cup semifinal team, Atlanta Hawks, Scott, your favorite basketball team.

00:49:57
Speaker 3: I'm kidding.

00:49:58
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00:51:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun, man, Like you know, it's another place to talk ball with other Braves fans. And sometimes other fans like we you know, we had like a Padres fan in our comments not too long ago, like you know, it's it's a good place, and hey, it's it's the winner. We still got three and a half months until we have real baseball games to talk about. Why not let us know what free agent deal you would have done for the Braves and and yeah, it should be fun. Hopefully next couple of days we get some action.

00:51:30
Speaker 1: All right, folks, it's all we have this evening. There will not be another show until next week unless there's a move. If there's a move, we will spring into action. If not, it would be sen there we have a new podcast. But anyway, please stay tuned and please subscribe the show and we'll see you all next time.