Club 520 - Starlito & Don Trip on Luka Doncic & LeBron James, Step Brothers 4 drop

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We’re back with Season 3, Episode 46 of Club 520, and Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by Starlito and Don Trip where the guys discuss the Los Angeles Lakers trading for Luka Doncic from the Dallas Mavericks to pair him alongside LeBron James, their favorite hoopers, coming up in the rap game, and announcing their Step Brothers 4 mixtape.

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The volume. 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:08.039 All right, man, we're back another episode of Club Our 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:08.799 twenty podcasts. 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:09.239 I'm the host. 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:11.600 My name is DJ Wells. We got some special special 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:14.040 guests in the building. Man, glad we could finally make 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:16.040 this happen for show man. We got a special setup. 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:17.800 That's only right, man, We got the whole game with U. 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:20.040 We're gonna introduce them last. But to my far left, 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:22.079 we got my dog should be hearing out the prail least. 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:24.960 How you what, nasty, Let's get to it. It's gonna 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:26.160 be a good one right here now. 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:27.880 Listen, man, Know we asked I guess on this show, 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:29.600 and I'm saying how they feel about the mountain, the 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:32.240 pile of black forces with the white lecens Alito put 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:34.479 up with his own man, you said the tall I 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:39.040 like it. I appreciate that. Love. 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:41.200 Man, when you see somebody walk up in them, shoot, 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:44.960 what you think of trip? I don't know, man, only 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:49.240 with Jordan's show like that's a unique kind of I 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:54.000 don't know. It took some effort because some ships don't 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:59.680 come with white lady either both of white ones took 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.720 the lake is out and dished them, or he purposefully 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:05.520 went and bought white laces and dished the black laces. 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:06.720 But either way, that's. 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:10.200 A whole lot of some blacks. Man. 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:12.559 But that's just a staple man, That's. 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:17.240 What I did. That's like putting the big ass roll 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:19.360 Rose Ross grill on your crushing. 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:29.520 Three bro got the black and for's all, it's crazy. 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:31.480 Did you ever picture the white laces and that joined 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:33.600 it up? No? Not. I started watching, y'all. 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:35.959 I appreciate. 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:41.800 The trip for showt it's throwing the blacks. 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:45.039 It's more around this too. 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:48.000 That's a definitely to my far right, my dog, you're 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:48.760 not your young tig. 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.320 How you what? I'm chilling and I'll still fu Stacey 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:58.280 Dash I felt what he. 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.400 Said you out of the podcast. 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:10.800 I'm I'm excited, man. This should be a good show 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.440 for the show Man listen special special guests. Man, glad 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:15.600 we could finally make this happen. Man freaking Mikeer was 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.560 early in this podcast. We all had our list of 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:19.959 people we went on this show off the rip. He said, 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:22.320 we got to have the step Brothers made it happen. Man, 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:24.800 Do trip appreciate y'all pulling up the five twenty minutes 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:30.880 show Man Real Man. Glad we can finally make this happen, 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:32.919 like we said, all our homeboys, even though we big 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:33.720 fans man. 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:35.880 Especially our homeboys, they pressed a lot with this too. 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:41.959 For sure. Shout out to Jamar. Let's say your name, Yeah, 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:43.560 my brother. 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:46.559 And everybody. 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:51.959 Keys Key's gonna call me. He was playing street ball 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:52.960 the other day. He's called me. 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.799 He was like, oh no, no, no, no, my nigga back 0:02:55.919 --> 0:03:01.519 play street ball. I'm like, I got you man about 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.920 keith Man for sure. Man, listen, we appreciate you. Oall 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:06.760 slide on this man. It gets firstly into it, man, 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.880 what made you both start making music? 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:10.920 What was your inspiration? 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:12.440 Who was some people I looked up too early on 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:14.440 to kind of molded Joe sound of how I wanted 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:15.000 to get to it. 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:20.959 I guess I'll leave that, uh Man. Chris Cross is 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:23.880 who made me want to be a rapper, want, you know, 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.160 being a I don't know how much older they are 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.000 than I am. When I first seen them, you know, 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.880 it was a fucking you know, it was a marvel 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:38.720 to see kids rapping. So of course I know I 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.600 gained the inspiration to become a rapper. I thought I 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:44.560 would become a rapper right then, which I'm glad I didn't, 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:47.600 because what I had to rap about then wasn't worth 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.640 Uh wasn't worth me rapping about in the first place. 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.240 But that's where it started, you know, the idea or 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:57.400 the passion. I think it grew from that to see 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:00.320 that kids could do it, and it ain't really started 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.240 working out for me too, you know, mid twenties. But 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:07.200 you know, I think, you know, it's like it happens 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:10.119 how it happens, you know, the you know, things had 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:11.880 to take place in order for me to be in 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:15.720 the right space and I think not to be arrogant 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.560 and amount of but I they had to grow to 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:21.320 become an artist, and you know, but that's where it started. 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.279 Once I seen them, it was a light bulb. I 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:25.919 couldn't them for sure. 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:29.240 Yeah, it was probably ice Cube Snoop Dogg earlier like 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:34.479 West Coast, West Coast, but oh, lifestyle aesthetic O like 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:37.640 just you know, being a little kid and seeing that 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.880 this thing that was cool and imagery from the movies 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.479 and all that a little lighter probably the hot Boys 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.560 for show the next thing or like that was the 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:48.520 time period when I probably started rapping. 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:51.120 Before then, I just thought, you know, rappers were cool 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:51.680 or whatever. 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.520 Yeah, by the times in high schools like wanting to 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.599 want some money, you know, I want to look like 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:01.159 it and et cetera. And the when I actually started rapping, 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:04.040 it was like more lyrical rappers that kind of got 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:08.799 my attention to Jay the Kids, Fab East Coast, DJ 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:12.400 Clue mixtapes. But it was still you know, the hog 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.600 Boys and Wayne the squad Up e was probably like 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.480 the biggest influence at the time that I started rapping. 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:23.320 Damn. Yeah, when Wayne turned into a whole different kind of. 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.040 Rapper, that's crazy. You said squad up taps. People forget 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.200 how fired and squad up types. That was before the 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:34.839 dedications do your research for show. Yeah, man, first of all, 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.039 we we're gonna get to the music. But guying that, man, 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:38.840 we put up to the game. I know y'all both 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:42.440 love basketball. What's your first thought process when you see 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:47.279 Luca and Lebron on the same damn team, Because that's. 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.200 It's still surreal to this point. I just watched the game, 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:49.839 still crazy. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.640 When I walked in, I was like, them tickets so damn. 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.560 But it was I mean, I'm like, you know, to 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:01.120 legendary players, like really almost a generational part. Yeah, seeing 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:03.200 him on the same team like that, it's like, damn, 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:05.360 I still don't know how they pulled that out. 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:09.159 Yeah, that's where I think when I see that, I really, 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:13.000 you know, what's really going on? Highway ropper something. 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.960 It's also interesting to see Lebron the fight to somebody 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.279 like I ain't you know, Lebron never been I ain't 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.320 don't necessarily say, the second best player on the team, 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.719 but that's kind of a rolly player, and that's that's different. 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:28.360 I never thought about that because he was chilling the 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:32.080 whole game, chilling two points vacation. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:33.559 He was killing. 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.560 At first, he was crazy, but it was a few 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.440 times he really like motioning for Luca, like come get 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.799 the ball, like you got it. H I say, Lebron 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:44.719 play off here like three or four times. I ain't 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:45.320 never looked like that. 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:50.240 She did that when I was playing. They got the 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:51.080 ball every time. 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:56.520 Wasn't the fill see them winning the chip? I was 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:01.120 thinking that too, like the roll player stuff like man, 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.600 boy Hayes, look and uh, what's doing. 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:07.200 They getting shots like that? 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:14.760 Time got some bodies, they got a chance out to do, 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:15.400 got a chance. 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:19.120 It was definitely you know your basketball man, your man 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.880 coaching head coach T s U. How is that man 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.360 girl with your party? Now he leading men at the university. 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:25.520 You know what I'm saying around the way. 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.680 He just called me sure, he said, y'all got a point? 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:38.440 Yeah, I swear that's funny as hell. Yeah college yeah yesterday. 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:43.080 Yeah, like that's I mentioned him twice in that song 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:47.040 because like that's one of the you know, my partners 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:50.080 since middle school. He wanted a few people like still 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:53.400 getting paid off basketball for us that came up together 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.640 and it was all our dreaming one time, like he's 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.840 still living and uh so that's real. 0:07:58.920 --> 0:07:59.600 I mean I went to T. 0:07:59.760 --> 0:07:59.880 S U. 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:02.000 So it was just super cool. 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:06.280 You know, you have the long time school asubce you, 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.840 you know, sending some records, tennis records and everything else, 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:12.160 job security and otherwise. 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:15.760 It's I'm just proud of them. That's why I like 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:19.480 to see your hoops, both of y'all hoop. 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:25.480 No, I never really been able to get along with people. 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:33.000 Uh look what I'm saying, Mama said, even when I try, 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.839 I try to try to go like try out for 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:40.840 basketball team. Hell no, Mama, why she said, you don't 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.040 get get you know, you don't play well with others, 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:47.559 and I didn't you know, but I was an angry kid. Yeah, 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:51.280 I had a lot going on. Basketball wasn't gonna work. 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:57.359 I would have probably been like, you know, run our tests, 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.200 Draymond Graen, No, it's been going stand. 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:06.199 He was a real crash out. 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:14.040 Yeah, yeah, it was. 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:13.640 Like the mid times. 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:18.120 It be shipped like I don't know how. I don't 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.560 know how how accurate or how often it happens, like 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.679 when I see like basketball films and I see that 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.240 like the I don't know what the y'all call it, 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:31.640 know that the rookie treatment ship hold another nigga bagh 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:34.480 man to be so many niggas on team with black guys. 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.000 We get to the game we got you know, we 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.640 gotta catch the bus when we get there. I don't 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:48.640 be the only niggas suit up the mother. But you know, 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:53.920 when I realized I couldn't do no, I couldn't be 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:57.360 a team player in that aspect. Yeah, you know, sports 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.120 ain't gonna be for me. I can't you know, ain't 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.120 no work for me. I'm ready to fight, you know. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.160 I don't know how to do the I don't not 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:08.640 take orders and I don't respect seniority when it's you know, 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:10.280 I don't know that ship. It just don't work. 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:12.920 I just talked about that on the show earlier today, 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.760 like that respect your elder ship is overrated. 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.560 I don't know, you're gonna have to. If you don't 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:20.960 give it, you ain't getting it back exactly. You know. 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.360 And when I was little, when I when I was 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:26.840 a kid, I don't know what kind of like I said, 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:28.520 I had a lot going on, a really matter. If 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:30.720 he was bigger than me, I might lose the fight, 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.440 but I'm gonna give you a fight. So you know, 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:40.320 basketball won't don't work out like you know, he won't 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:47.400 start you know, Yeah, we ain't got to the game. 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.240 It's gonna have There's gonna be some fights in practice, 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.600 locker room, all this. It's a lot of ship. I 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:54.880 just you know, I never really been able to tolerate, 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.240 so I ain't really got you know, even now, I 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:01.160 don't got many friends. The friends I got, I know 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.600 since I was ten and eleven. Shot know, IM created 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:09.360 like like fifteen years now. But you know, I don't know, 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:13.000 I just don't work well. We'll play well with those 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:18.800 So I was gonna work out way, gotcha I played 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:20.080 high school you and. 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.400 I wasn't trying to go to small schools. I was 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:26.240 looking at me. I stayed at home. 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.720 Oh then he thought he was all start. 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.680 I was like going to like the bottom of. 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:35.840 My eyes, I'm doing this. 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:38.800 So what you had like some D twos or something 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:39.520 looking at it was. 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.800 Like D twos D three. I had a couple of looks. 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:46.400 But I remember I think Tennessee Tech one of the 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:47.680 coaches kind of hot led me. 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:49.720 I was hyped solid. 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:51.400 I'm trying to tell you what. 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.599 Going to coach's office, they looking at him Ship on 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.200 hype And the first thing the coach asked. 0:11:57.000 --> 0:12:00.560 Me was like, you know the Marco pope out the market. 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:04.200 He was missed the basketball from my way. I was 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:08.120 like yeah, like why, Like basically was like, Ship, we recruit. 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:19.959 You, you can help us get him, and said yeah. 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.680 And t s U coach at the time was Nolan 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:29.240 Richardson third maybe Arkansas coach his son uh he was 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:32.360 at a tournament and his son the fourth played in 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.080 high school the same time and I dunked on the sun. 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:39.040 You know, we knew each other, but it was over with. 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:41.600 You know. That's why I wanted to play the gate. 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.040 Yeah, you fucked up your chance. 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.959 That was like a rival and you like locally or whatever. 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:54.840 So after that, I skipped the great and ship. I 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:56.560 graduated young and it was. 0:12:57.720 --> 0:12:59.920 That's that's why we think we all can relate to 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.200 y'all music, because y'all talk about stuff that like seemed 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:06.000 like around our area, Like you talk about wrestling and ship. 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:07.840 Yeah yeah, And I'm like, damn. 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:09.720 When I first started listening to that, I'm like, then 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:13.040 they wrap about everything I grew up watching and doing's 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.319 like I'm thirty six, Yeah, we ain't the fun when 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.800 right by y'all, I turned forward it this ship. Yeah, 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:21.719 but y'all said all that ship, Like when y'all was 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.920 talking about like Randy Savage, give me Undertaker cast and 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.360 all that ship, I was like, yeah, I'm tapped in. 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:30.320 Because that's when I first started listening because my brother 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.040 then was like you tripping because you rapped like you 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.360 talking wrap you talking like. 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:40.079 That's the whole beauty and keep chilling you like these 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:43.880 hype ass And I'm like this ship cold hard. So 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:46.120 I started listening and they put me on shout out 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.680 to my brother to real man show, you know, shout 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:52.040 out the big bro man. Obviously y'all had Christal I 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.320 got to show. What was the first time y'all linked up, 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.040 y'all first, like, all right, I kind of fun with 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:56.760 him type ship. 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:00.920 Listen my time hard. 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:04.280 Like twenty ten, okay, that's twenty ten on no dates 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:04.720 and stuff. 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:06.720 We like formally met through y'all. 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:10.000 Got it, actually got him, you know, I was in 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:13.199 business with him and he was like looking to work 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:16.920 with trip when he was coming up, and kind of 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.360 you know what I'm saying, play stuff around each other. 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.840 But we started working kind of on our own within that. 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:25.280 Craig can tell. 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:28.360 You, yeah, we just I was on the road we 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:31.000 got it and he had he had to stop in Nashville, 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:33.960 and I don't know what the hell God had to do. 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:38.720 I don't really like, uh, I don't like tagging along 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:42.960 when ship don't got nothing to do with me. I'm 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.600 just saying, you know, he was on the side question 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:52.080 not quite you know, and got it, had ship going on, 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.840 he had business to tend to. I ain't want to 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.360 be the nigga shitting watching him do what he got 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.600 to do. I want to be along for the part 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:04.560 of this that involves me. But certain shit didn't involve me. So, like, 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.720 you know, God is going to go do a verse 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.080 for so and so they might be in the fucking 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.520 studio five hours. I'm just gonna be a nigga sitting 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.440 in the studio. I don't smoke on drink, so I'm 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:16.240 gonna be a nigga sitting in the studio like this. 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.760 So when you know, whatever he was going to do, 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:24.440 you know, it was in that kind of you know, 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.720 he wasn't doing nothing that I needed to learn from 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:32.640 or watch. So while it was doing that, I think 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:36.280 Stenham had lined up a verse for another one of 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:38.760 got his artists. So I was like, all right, I know, 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:42.080 I'll rather with y'all then. So I had no idea 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.680 what he was going to lead those studios. When we 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.400 got to lead those studio, he set them up to 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:50.280 do the feature fast forward, said he. I don't know 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.440 how he did it, but that was our first time 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:56.760 meeting each other. And at some point his people came 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:58.640 down and told me, you know, a guy wanted to 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:00.720 buy a verse for me. I'm like, man, I don't 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:02.760 you know, I don't I don't know anybody in here. 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.920 I just met him. So when I you know, later 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:08.080 on that night I found out that Star pretty much 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.680 was the person that convinced you to to get that. 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:12.240 I don't remember who the hell it was. It got 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:15.320 the worse, but we was on the road and what 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:21.920 I was doing for you know, my my profession at 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:25.160 the moment, well at that moment, I couldn't do that traveling, 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.280 so you know, my pockets was a little light. He 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:30.520 couldn't have knew, you know that that that that me 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:32.960 getting some bread right then was you know, that ship 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:37.040 was like oxygen. So him lining that up, they kind 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:41.640 of on, They kind of changed my perspective of who 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:43.600 he was. You know, again, it was my first time 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.520 meeting him that day and all the way up until then, 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:50.160 me being only familiar with his music, but being familiar 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:55.920 with rappers, I had to was preconceived, preconceived notion that 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:59.080 he'd be more like rappers when you meet you know, 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.320 I can't speak for everybody, but when you meet rappers, 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:05.040 some rappers don't turn the rappers shit off, like you know, 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.240 you can tell that you know you're acting, I don't. 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.480 You know, I don't need to the camera version of you. 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:11.639 I need the real version of you. And for me, 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.200 so many and it still happens even to this day. 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:18.199 But that's how that's how I assume star would be. 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:20.040 So when I met him, you know, I you know, 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:21.600 I met him, I was doing so, you know, I 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:25.239 and I went back downstairs. So later on, after you know, 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:27.840 finding out, he lined their vers so for me and 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.320 we said we rapped for a second, not we said 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:34.159 and we talked for a second. And you know, I 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:37.720 think that was the the thing that made me have 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.199 to be a little more open minded because I'm like, 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.800 you know, I assumed he was this kind of guy 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.600 and he's the total opposite. So he's made me some bread. 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:47.280 He made nothing off of it, and he had no 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.000 there was nothing invested in it for him. He had 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.720 to have just you know, fuck with me for you know, 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.200 he had to have done that just because he fucked 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:56.600 with me as an artist, because he don't know me 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.240 as a person. So from that, you know, I think, 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.440 you know, they gave me the I don't know, like 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:04.040 I said, I don't work well with others. So that 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.159 was I guess that was like the olive branch, so 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:09.280 to speak. And he couldn't have known that, but that 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:11.280 was the you know, the gestion that made me say, 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:14.800 you know, he's a cool dude. You know, I get 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:17.320 you know, get to nor him and see see where 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:18.720 this goes for sure? 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:21.159 For sure? All right, man, before we go to be 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:23.040 here sometime, get some drinks up in here. 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:25.600 I don't know what my guy. 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:28.119 That's freaking out. You gotta you gotta figure out what 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.760 that means. Sometimes big a couple of things. Barbie, what's happening? 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:31.959 What's going on? 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:35.160 What you got for us today? 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:36.640 Okay? 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:39.280 What's in the black bearry and blue bearry? 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:41.400 Okay? 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:46.840 What's up? What? No? 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:52.640 No, no, I don't know what you saying? The mop tail, 0:18:57.440 --> 0:19:02.480 I guess, but it was record time. But about say she. 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:10.200 Was she was on c flip k. 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:13.639 She got to get out of here staying around. 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:30.080 You look for a little chair right shop it up? 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:32.760 Moving on? 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:38.920 So what was that moment y'all knew y'all was gonna 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:40.000 collade and work together. 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:41.360 Yeah, I was gonna get to that. 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:47.280 It was not right away necessarily that first session, but 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:50.960 even proudly then, like from the first. 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.480 Things I heard, like like you said, I rock with it. 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:57.080 I saw promising and I felt like it without knowing them, 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:59.399 I felt like it was going somewhere with it and. 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:04.280 We started working. It was like right away, like one 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:04.760 it was. 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:08.800 It was effortless for him and I just I took 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:11.240 to like the just the new like fresh energy of 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.920 because when we met, I probably was like five six 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.520 years in the game. I think signed a deal like 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.439 five years before then, So I was damn there at 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:22.960 the point almost like turning the corner finally, like a 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:25.920 second win almost and trying to figure the shit out 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:29.320 outside of having a deal Finn to go on my own, 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:32.080 and he was getting a deal, so it was like 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:34.760 part of it for me was like paying it forward, 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:37.840 Like it wasn't like big homie kind of times. 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:39.399 We really look about the same age. 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:41.680 But more so I'm like, man if I can, if 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:44.840 I can help Bro skip some steps so not make 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:47.520 the same mistakes I made or any of that. That's 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:50.000 why I kind of felt like it was almost like. 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:51.200 A roller was due to play. 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:55.199 But as far as making music, it was just effortless, 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:56.800 you know what I'm saying. The first couple of songs 0:20:56.800 --> 0:21:01.200 we did, it was like one he just like killing 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:02.560 the ship right away. 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:05.600 But it was also like the first. 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:08.119 Time I kind of met my match or met my 0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:12.000 equals as far as on just a like talent skill level, 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:14.600 and like, man, this nigga can rap like for word 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:15.560 for word kind of thing. 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:17.480 So and it wasn't. 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:20.719 It wasn't like a competitive like you know what I'm 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:24.520 saying looking over your shoulder. It was more like complimentary. 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:27.359 I was going to ask you because, like I said, 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:29.480 all my friends listen to it. So we used to battle. 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:32.480 We used to wrap your ship and be battering, like, nah, 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:35.439 he beat him here. Did y'all feel like that? I 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:37.280 know you just said it wasn't competitive, But did y'all 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:40.040 feel like that? Like I played my little brother one 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:42.679 on one all the time competitive We family though, at 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:44.280 the end of the dying each other to get better. 0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:47.160 Yeah, Like was it like that for your Nah? 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:47.400 I don't. 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:48.280 I don't think so. 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:51.119 Like that's and I think that's probably why we're still 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:52.520 rocking fifteen years later. 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:54.359 Rap groups don't last. 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:55.240 You know what I'm saying. 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:57.000 You can kind of run down the list, like I 0:21:57.080 --> 0:22:02.560 think what happens is we we might have like favorite verses, 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:05.080 like you know, I would say for every song, I 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:09.800 probably got a favorite verse, But all those favorite verses 0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:12.320 ain't mine. If they're making any sense. You know, I could, 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:15.480 it could be a particular record, and I really fucked 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:20.439 with his verse, and like you said, you know I should. 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:25.560 It's I don't know, because it's not a competition any 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:28.560 shape form of fashion, like if you ever sat in 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:30.680 a session, or any person that's ever sat in a 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:35.479 session like wet even on that kind of time, like 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:39.359 when we started working, we're working in unison, and we 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:43.120 might speak to each other about where we're going, depending 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:45.760 on you know, what kind of record it is. But 0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:48.159 for the most part, our verses all wrote at the 0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:51.720 same time. So when he going to the booth to 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:54.560 do his, I'm going to do mine or vice versus 0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:58.439 whoever's first or whatever order. Most of the time, I, 0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:01.320 you know, our verses of that pretty much at the 0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:03.600 same time. Or I might be well, one of us 0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:06.080 might be closing the verse and the other one just 0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:09.919 finished and go in and record it. And we like 0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:13.679 to at least when it happens, I believe, and just 0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:16.200 let it shit flow naturally. So if I'm writing my 0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:18.520 verse and he says something in in his verse while 0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:21.720 he recorded nine times out of ten, I you know, 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:23.920 I'm probably at the end of the verse. But either way, 0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:26.040 if he said something that inspired me to say something, 0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:28.320 or if I like the line he said, you know, 0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:30.800 we will repeat the line you know where it came from, 0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:33.400 or sometimes you don't. We don't much care because what 0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:36.159 we're doing, you know, we both fully aware of what 0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:38.359 we're trying to build. I want you to like the song. 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:40.800 I don't want you to like a verse from the song, 0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:43.919 so you know, when we're doing the shit, we ain't really. 0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:48.120 I think it's competitive in a sense, but not so much. 0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:50.280 You know, we don't see it and say, oh man, 0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:55.320 I gotta get well sometimes but that happened, But that 0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:58.800 happens on features. Sometimes people will get a verse from 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:02.360 both of us. Just seldom, but they get a verse 0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:06.160 from both of us. And it's only a select few 0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:09.480 people will allow to get both of us on the 0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.600 song because we feel like, you know, that's lending our brand. 0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:17.320 But when it happens, most times, I don't know the 0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:21.080 stars on the song. So when it happened, you know, 0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:25.320 I'm gonna just do what I do and then create. 0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:28.680 It's having a few times great com like they didn't 0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:31.440 tell me you was the verse on it, du. 0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:34.040 Like I know you was on it for the bars 0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:34.320 on the. 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:39.120 Sometimes take over. 0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:42.360 But you know, but other than that, we know when 0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:46.840 we creating, especially like step Brothers music, whenever we create 0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:51.119 music that's step Brothers, we do it in person, so 0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:54.320 you know, I'm fully aware they you know that he 0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:55.000 on the record. 0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:00.400 It's like it's like still sharp and still it's more 0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:03.600 more than yeah, you know, like you said, y'all play 0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:06.800 one on one. It's like sparring in that sense, but 0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:08.639 when we working, it ain't. 0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:12.400 The end game is for you to feel to finish product. 0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:15.600 So it's like, I mean, for sure, there's been times 0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:19.480 I'm like, damn, you kill me, but that's like a 0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:24.040 good thing that the song was better, and I'm supreme 0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:26.320 to confident that when I go in and work with him, 0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:28.960 I know what you're gonna do, so I can't step 0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:31.320 or you know, I know I'm gonna get smashed on 0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:35.359 the song. So it's more so that, like you know, 0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:37.359 you you should want somebody to make you better. 0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:39.200 That's a fun Definitely. 0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:39.400 Sure. 0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:41.640 I want to ask you this question because you said 0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:43.680 when your first inception to meeting each other, you was 0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:45.840 just like I've seen somebody position I can help, like 0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:47.919 like he solid if I can help them skip a 0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:49.639 couple of steps. Because I first heard you know what 0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:51.480 I'm saying, great goops. That's first time I heard you 0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:54.119 early back Chevy days. I was like, okay, he cold 0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:56.280 so that he said time progressive. You's like, all right, 0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:59.720 I learned. I'm gonna help you out being with the major, 0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:01.680 being with other artists, and then having your own spot, 0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:03.840 Like do you see somebody going into that situation? Both 0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:05.679 of y'all obviously give a lot of respect for being 0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:08.000 a great independent artists in your own right. I was 0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:10.120 like to be like, Okay, I know what I've learned, 0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:11.359 but I'm not gonna hear her what he going through 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:13.320 because I want him to still have his journey. 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I ain't start rapping it maybe 0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:11.600 four years before that time. So I'm like it's whatever. 0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.960 I'm just trying to get in where I fit in versus. 0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:17.760 Like he got. He got in the game really more 0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:22.920 so off of like emotion driven, like personal passion record 0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:25.000 like and just like no frills. 0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.960 It was like it wasn't about a single, It wasn't 0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:30.520 about you know what I'm saying. It was it was 0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:32.119 him just kind of being itself. 0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:36.040 I'm like, damn, Like it was more so like on 0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:39.120 the fan level, even like don't change that, don't let 0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:41.120 the game change steer you away from that. 0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:43.520 That's what works, that's what got you here kind of thing. 0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:47.640 And I think it's just like I said, paying it 0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:49.800 forward me. I believe in Carman and all this, so 0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.640 I would want to golden rule like I would want 0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:57.040 to do what I would have wanted somebody to, you know, 0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:59.120 the game that I wish somebody would have gave me. 0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.760 And like it was never like the irony. 0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:06.320 We have made so much progress and history together, but 0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:08.960 it was never about like trying to like make something 0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:10.480 or get in on a situation. 0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:12.400 It was like I met. 0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:14.960 Him at a point where he had options, she could 0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:16.800 have signed with him. Then it was a little bit 0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:19.120 of everybody trying to rock with him. I was even 0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.520 in a position where people was like, man, you should 0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:24.560 get in. I'm like, no, I think, well, you know, 0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:28.400 his trajectory is bigger than the help I could directly offer. 0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:30.440 But that's Trually, I'd just rather be like in. 0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:32.480 There's a lot of artists where like I met him 0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:35.600 early on, I was around and whatever small part I 0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:38.080 might have played, and they story, I'm like, I just 0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:41.000 counted as like that's that's what's up. 0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:42.640 I mean, it's a part of my legacy too. 0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:46.240 I was there, I reach out to everybody too. 0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:50.120 I don't have to know you. I think you know. 0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:54.280 Many people don't respond. I just used That's really why 0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:58.160 I used social media for so I've been feeling like 0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:02.959 if if I know you, you you know about to 0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:05.800 make a mistake, and I don't do nothing to prevent it, 0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:08.800 then I feel like I'm at fault. I feel like 0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:12.280 it's my fault you made that mistake. I don't know 0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:14.760 how much since that that really makes, but. 0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:16.560 I don't know. 0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:18.280 It almost seemed like a dude it, like I have 0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:19.959 to say it. I got a du and you and say, 0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.480 hey man, you know you got this in this movie 0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:25.600 and you should maybe you know, do x Y and 0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:28.560 Z or not do x Y and Z. And you know, 0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:31.560 I try not to give people advice because you know, 0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:34.440 my ship, my path wasn't perfect either, So I can't 0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:37.280 tell you what wouldn't work or what won't work. But 0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.000 I can tell you what I did and how it 0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:41.920 went wrong. And you know you take from that what 0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:43.840 you will, and you know you can make it make 0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:45.960 sense for you. Then that's great. You know we can't 0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:48.440 all dunk, so you know, not for sure. 0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:53.320 Little I wanted to ask you, like, what's the benefits 0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:55.160 of signing to a major though. 0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:59.880 Spending somebody else money number one. Yeah, but on it back. 0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:05.000 I mean, but that's if you don't I mean, if 0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:08.960 you ain't got it like ship. Yeah, but uh, I 0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:11.560 mean it's it's a lot of benefits to it, truthfully, 0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:17.040 Like they moved a needle on stuff. Okay, So it's 0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:23.120 a lot of relationships these companies and partnerships. 0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:26.040 With each other, like back door type of type of situation. 0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:29.240 So it's better to be on that side of the 0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.960 things is moving, I guess tricks of the trade. But 0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:35.400 like Trip said, like you know, whatever you're taking the 0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.520 front end, you're gonna cop them something back the yeah. 0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:41.960 Shout out to the shout out to the game. 0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:45.800 I mean the thing now is just to be independent 0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:47.600 in the rap game, and a lot of people go 0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:49.800 into it with no education behind it. 0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:53.920 And yeah not even at least bit. 0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:59.080 But see, I think it's pros and cons to both sides, 0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:04.000 and music just happens to be at least rap music. 0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:06.440 I can't say music as a wholes, I don't have 0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:11.680 experiencing other genres of it, but rap music don't get 0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:14.400 no free requences. You know, you want to play ball, 0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:17.680 you know, you gotta start ship, damn For elementary school, 0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:20.080 you gotta do aau shits and you know you gotta 0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:23.080 do all them camps and shit. But it's things in 0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:26.720 place to teach you how to become you know, how 0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:30.040 to play team ball, or how to adapt to it. 0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.560 Even you know, as you progress to different levels of it. 0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:35.040 You know, when you get to high school, you know 0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:37.880 you play a little different than you play in elementary 0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:41.080 or middle school. Then you know, same for college, same 0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:43.280 for if you go into like summer league, same for 0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:46.920 when you go to the actual league. It's a learning process, 0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:49.800 but it's it's things and people in place to teach 0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:52.920 you how to move along with that. In the rap 0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:58.880 business man, it's it's more filled with people that that 0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:02.440 gatekeeper anything. But I ain't no, ain't no, ain't no. 0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.320 There's no way to learn this ship before you jump 0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:07.760 in this ship. You almost got to make the mistakes 0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.280 to figure it out. And a lot of the people, 0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.240 like you know, we feel the opposite about it. There's 0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:15.440 a lot of people that feel like, shit, nobody helped me, 0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:19.200 so shit, I ain't helping you. And but that's the 0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:22.240 trigger thing about the music business. So right now, the 0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:24.920 you know the fact, the trend that is to be 0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:29.600 independent because the word independent sound you know, it makes 0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:33.440 you sound self sufficient. You sound like a self made 0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:37.920 artist or self made boss. But in real life, you 0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:43.640 really want to do whatever benefits you. So I wouldn't 0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:46.480 say don't be independent. I wouldn't say go be independent. 0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:48.760 You gotta go with what work. So if you step 0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:52.040 in it and you spent, how much you spent and 0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:55.080 you can't sustain doing this ship because in real life 0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:57.200 you got real life to deal with. You know. That's 0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:59.760 why they say it's a young I don't agree, but 0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:02.320 I'm understand why. But they say it's a young man's game. 0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:05.320 It's a young man's game because you got the time 0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:10.160 to be able to to go through the shit you 0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:12.960 got to go through at nineteen signing to a label 0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:16.880 then oh and m fucking five hundred thousand dollars, Having 0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:19.080 to deal with that at nineteen is a whole lot 0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:22.359 smoother than dealing with that at thirty six. You got 0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:25.759 four or five kids. You know, you got more responsibility. 0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:27.920 You don't got the room to have to deal you know, well, 0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:31.000 you don't have the room to be able to work 0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:34.520 through that to learn from that. But in the music business, 0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:37.520 people think, you know, if they like right now, they 0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:39.920 think sign into a major is the worst thing in 0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:43.160 the world. Real time is not. I think you just 0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.879 got to know what you're getting yourself into. And you know, 0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.480 it's more about your plan, right, you know, and if 0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:49.840 you don't, got to plan out and. 0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:52.920 We sign without a plan and get lost on the sauce. 0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:56.680 So exactly, you know, you can be independent without a plan. 0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:59.439 You're just saying you're independent kind of thing. I think 0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:03.680 signing up or whatever, it's just kind of like being 0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:07.239 able to work. You're playing because even that that's the thing. 0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:11.080 Like the time that I was signed, it was like going. 0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:12.839 To school, I use it. 0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:17.600 I ended up using education, okay, like because it was 0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:20.880 a lot that I saw things working for other people. 0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:23.120 I wasn't in the same position they was when I 0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:26.839 had a leverage otherwise, but I saw like they working, yeah, 0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:30.799 outside of just the machine and all like that. I'm like, man, 0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:33.680 these dudes never stopped working, and so I'm like, I'm 0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:35.480 gonna apply it. I might not be able to scale 0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:37.960 it the same way. I'm gonna take what I've got 0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.920 and just double down on what works for me. 0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:44.600 Okay, Yeah, and that's what's super dope about yalls that 0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:47.759 obviously you put your head down in the music sales itself. 0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:48.920 And y'all both have co followings. 0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:52.719 We talk about the independency like opportunities and stuff. Now 0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:54.120 you think it's a little bit easier for artists to 0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:56.160 jump into the game now because of social media and 0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:58.520 stuff like that, because you got people like jell O 0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:01.120 come in. We know you know him as a rapper, 0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:02.440 yell smack. 0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:10.600 The word Look, I understand the man named wrong fever. 0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:12.200 I was like. 0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:18.440 Yellow or something. He said, Yello, I'm thinking jellale Yello. 0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:23.000 I don't know if you want to. I was like, damn, 0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:29.160 was baffled. It's a rapper name. Access. 0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:32.239 Access is plentiful, man, Like, yeah, you know you can 0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:35.839 you can blow up faster, you you know what I mean. 0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:39.200 You can reach you can go farther faster because at 0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:42.080 the resource of the internet, like the world like very smile, 0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:45.279 So people can get like hip to the same thing. 0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:47.520 Like even for y'all to say, I was on Greg Goose, 0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:50.839 like what it took to get the record high. It 0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:52.719 was a lot of footwork, It was a lot of 0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:56.759 like Vinyl records and delivering them, put them in a 0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:59.600 mailbox and them and the DJ is like going a 0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:02.440 little for Kentucky diarbies. Like there's probably the trickle down 0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:08.120 of it reaching Indianapolis going to all the HBCU Football 0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:11.279 Classic weekends. Like we're jumping out in traffic with like 0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:15.440 gorilla marketing versus now it's like a streamer plays your 0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:19.560 song and it goes everywhere the next day, Like I mean, 0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:22.920 that's that's beautiful for you know, yeah, I guess for 0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:25.520 people that can advantage themselves off of it. But it's 0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:28.120 also like you know, it's like microwaves stuff, like the 0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:29.239 food is good. 0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:33.520 Yeah, and not only that, but like I said, the 0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:36.960 no courses for this shit. So you know, you take 0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:41.920 a nineteen year old that didn't have any aspirations of 0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:46.160 being a musician or being in the business and you know, 0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:49.640 they did a song getting popped and now they in 0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:53.279 the mix. Imagine how easy it is to manipulate well, 0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:57.320 you know, for the industry. That person he learned nothing 0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:59.160 from it. You know, you don't know how this works. 0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.759 All of it is new. And this ship moved fast, 0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:06.399 and ship when you important and you know, and that's 0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:08.960 the trigger thing about it. A lot of times when 0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:12.640 you know a lot of shit. I'm sure we've all 0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:18.439 experienced it, you know, especially you whoever recruited you disappeared later. 0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:21.600 You know, they did all of the fantastic ship to 0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:23.560 get you where you was going. Yeah, and then once 0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:27.160 you got there, you won't Prome Queen no more, they nigga. 0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:29.640 They moved on to the next one, you know, to 0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:32.319 do the same process. And a lot of times what 0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:35.240 happens when you're not you know, when you're not familiar 0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:38.480 with the process, you'll think you're on top of the 0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:44.160 world and you never start adjusting or you never start. 0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:46.399 Like you said, you got to learn from what's going on. 0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:48.399 So if you're on top of the world, you never 0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:51.279 start learning what happens when because there's no way to 0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:54.319 be there forever. So what happens when when that ship 0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:56.680 slowed down? What's you know, what's your next step now? 0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:59.120 And in a lot of cases, that's what create you know, 0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:02.680 we said all it happens. Almost every day you'll see 0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:05.719 a person that was some kind of social media sensation 0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:09.120 and now they got all kinds of weird legal troubles 0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:12.480 and ship. But because they was at you know they 0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:14.120 was on top of the world at one point, and 0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:17.640 they never fully adjusted to know to be able to 0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:20.960 manage not being on top of the world. It's almost 0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:24.400 like a like an instant high, and now you're chasing 0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:27.760 it high and in some cases you'll never get it again. 0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:31.080 But that's because you know, Shi, it's a whole lot, 0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:34.040 it's a whole lot easier to get it popping. But 0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:36.520 they don't necessarily make it easier. 0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:39.200 It ain't no such thing as a street team no more. 0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:47.080 You guys keep media team called game members. I had 0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:50.879 a question. So we was listening to music earlier, and yeah, 0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:53.319 five times one of my favorite songs. But when y'all 0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:58.880 heard Seeing Green by like Nikki Wayne Draking, Now, what's that? 0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:07.080 It's just a song, but well you know what I'm 0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:11.360 talking about. I know exactly what make you look looking. 0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:16.000 Man, it's a song. 0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:17.759 He was a sign simple, I. 0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:22.759 Know the name. I never heard that what you was 0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:23.279 asking about? 0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:26.920 It was like, do y'all be like, damn, Like I mean, 0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:29.080 I know it's a simple, but it's like because we 0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:31.879 knew when I first heard him, Like, damn, I heard 0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:35.880 this before. Man, I want to shout out Shannon Sanders. 0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:40.000 It's a producer songwriter from Nashville that that actually I 0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:42.880 think produced the hell the helly song that that was 0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:46.719 simple somebody I know for like twenty plus years. I 0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:48.799 thought it was cool that they was sampling his work, 0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:50.439 you know what I'm saying, way we did. 0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:53.759 It's one of them situations, man, because it happened to 0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:55.239 me like a. 0:40:55.200 --> 0:41:00.560 Lot of times, like where things getting recycled, re rot 0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:05.480 repurposed and very rarely like I ain't looking for acknowledgement 0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:06.759 because that's her song. 0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:07.439 It's that song. 0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:10.400 It's very. 0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:15.040 And I mean that's hip hop, you know what I'm saying, 0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:18.520 Like people are making the same song down their word 0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:23.719 for word, no for no over. But when I heard it, 0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:26.400 I was just like, I thought it was interesting because 0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:28.200 that's one of our biggest songs. 0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:32.360 Man, well that's that ship was like, I'm like, nah, 0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:43.680 I never heard so yeah here, But I don't know. 0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:47.520 I don't really believe in coincidence, so a lot of 0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:48.799 times I didn't either. 0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:57.600 It's too close. I remember the producer dude doing of course, 0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:00.440 not the one that made the hours, but that went 0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:06.520 viral making it in his car, right, So you know, 0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:11.759 I guess I was already conditioned for I understand the 0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:16.080 I guess the process now for how they make beats. 0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:19.640 It ain't is not to say I don't know, he 0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:20.440 know who made it? 0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:21.680 Street S made it? 0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:29.080 Okay, my bad greeted. You know, shit happens either way. 0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:32.520 Like the sampling process ain't the same no more it 0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:34.880 used to be. You know, they take the vinyl and 0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:38.000 you have to like you had, you had to put 0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:41.080 some work in to to create the sample you was 0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:44.040 creating to make the beat, and now now it's a 0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:46.640 whole lot different, like it's websites. They already got the 0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:51.080 samples already cut up, so take it right, you take 0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:56.800 it and starting drums. So I never heard Nicki Minaj 0:42:56.960 --> 0:43:00.200 song on the beat, but you know I was where 0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:04.319 did they use the same beat? I'm just not just 0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:05.839 when nothing that was interested in show. 0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:11.560 I mean it just when it happens over and over 0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:12.280 and over again. 0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:19.280 He's a big you know, he got he got prior 0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:20.800 experience and such. 0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:23.960 But they are different too though, because I can't charge it, 0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:25.799 I don't know where where it comes from. 0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:29.839 Right, I'm saying it's happened to you more than it. 0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.239 Just happened like that. I don't necessarily. 0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:34.920 I've had scenarios where I got to the source of 0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:38.200 it and figured out, like where the inspiration came from. 0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:45.000 Those the same time, the same like you know, same terminology, 0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:49.000 something like East Nashville slang, Like don't nobody even say 0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:55.080 that if somebody, if a New York artist came out 0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:57.520 making a song saying that, I think everybody from around 0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:03.040 here will be like, especially in real time, you know 0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:05.160 what I'm saying. I put out a song six months later, 0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:13.480 the same song, you know, but every step of the way, 0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:17.080 like especially just growing up, just maturing, I take it 0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:21.000 like it's like complimentary or flatter and flatter, but in 0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:25.080 the way I do, Like I guess that's why I 0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:27.279 think so much when people do give me props or 0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:29.799 salute me, because because you don't have to, it's just 0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:32.120 easy to act like you don't know what nigga is, 0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:34.560 you know. So for a lot of people that do, 0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:36.759 like give it up, like that's cool, because I know 0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:37.799 what the opposite for like. 0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:43.360 To yeah that that was too close. I was just like, 0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:44.000 it's too close. 0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:46.320 I really. 0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:54.040 Looking to see how you react to it. Clearly on 0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:59.680 that first take. Yeah, okay they did, Yeah, they did 0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:03.279 they Yeah, I go ahead, and that's what it was 0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:04.160 called rock ahead. 0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:05.240 My song called. 0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:12.360 Just go ahead. Man, listen, you got it first. My 0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:15.719 song this is when out when you know, this is 0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:20.279 us first working together. So to see him reacting or 0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:23.439 respond to that, man, that ship was the funniest ship, 0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:29.200 like Star Wars on. Some niggas got cameras at my house. 0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:34.880 They did it. It's my ship, Okay, baby, I don't 0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:39.759 really the first Brothers what I'm saying. That's why it 0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:43.920 was funny and me just being me being the permanent 0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:51.560 Devil's advocate matter fact, could google it, man, right. 0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:58.239 Happened. That's that's crazy for sure. Man, we got to 0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:00.919 talk about y'all freak here. I got hell of love 0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:03.000 in the city. They always should love to y'all. Man, 0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:05.160 what's life pulling up to that? Man? For the people 0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:09.560 who don't know, man, man, it's it feels like home 0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:14.319 to me. It's welcome because I've only ever been here 0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:17.000 in the same space and environment, just like where I 0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:18.279 come from. You know. 0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:22.040 We were talking about like where we performed and it's 0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:27.640 been Sweet thirty eight, which was Limelight and like Clown 0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:29.600 been there. 0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:33.160 For every phase of the same every day huge. 0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:40.920 Rock for your features though, shout out a little you know, yeah. 0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:42.960 You know, it's love in the city when you can 0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:45.319 pull up the fusion comfortably. Yeah, that's little. 0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:49.240 That's what'll are good in my city. 0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:50.279 Love. 0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:54.400 That's a wild spot they had to permanently. 0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:03.760 It's like it's y'all and boosy. Yeah, y'all like stamped 0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:04.280 in the city. 0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:07.360 So that's a good space to be in. 0:47:07.920 --> 0:47:10.959 Yeah, he ever try right music from Indianapolis, it would 0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:12.160 not be your typical people here. 0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:16.680 It's boosy, gotty y'all. Like it's like, yeah, plasm here. 0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:18.920 We talk to people out of town that we know about, 0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:21.880 like big artists, you know, future we rock the future 0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:24.680 of course, jay z Ho and people don't understand when 0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:26.520 we tell them, like when they come to my city, 0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:29.880 it's cool, but we more so like people who was 0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:33.719 close to us, like more relatable. So y'all stand out 0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:38.319 like way more than them, like in our city for sure. Yeah, 0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:42.360 it's not for real though, bro, jay z coll be 0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:46.480 like cool, you know, like pulling up I just told you, 0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:48.880 my boy be just said, man asked the nigga when 0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:53.200 he's sliding back down to the city anticipating y'all pull 0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:53.879 up for sure. 0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:58.320 Yeah, it's always I mean, even we there like music 0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:01.640 like new music, current music, it's always a packed house. 0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:05.600 Sowd out them spots like water wall. Quite a few 0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:10.120 times had mikels pop up on stage and snatched the 0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:10.880 mic from us. 0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:14.799 I don't know where he came from, you know. 0:48:16.560 --> 0:48:22.800 Yeah, yeah, like he grabbed y'all got smelled like hot water. 0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:28.879 People in the club, they smelled like hot for sure. 0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:33.279 The way he came from, I thought he was just 0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:36.840 another nigga standing behind us. You know, the whole hood 0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:39.200 is standing behind us on the stage. So you know, 0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:42.080 I don't know who was who. So when he popped 0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:44.160 up and grabbed Mike, you know, I first reasked us 0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:51.120 who the this Mike? We had schlights idea, you know, 0:48:51.160 --> 0:48:53.360 what was really going on. But it was cool, you know, 0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:56.759 and he just was showing love because he handed the 0:48:56.840 --> 0:49:02.120 right back. He said ship but that that was ridiculous. 0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:04.759 It's always been you know, I don't remember the first 0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:06.879 time I came up here, like my long time, but 0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:10.279 it's it's always been a sign, Like went to the 0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:12.960 game earlier, Like we walking to the game, probably take 0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:16.000 four or five pictures and robbed when we took hello 0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:17.560 pictures and inside of the game. 0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:20.560 But it's just like you know, even. 0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:22.440 Going I mean, I've been coming up here to paces 0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:26.359 guns and whatnot. But it's like when people can see you, 0:49:26.480 --> 0:49:29.440 like as far as being stamped like it's it's some 0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:33.840 city's day. We only I only saw one side of 0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:36.080 you know what I'm saying, and that's. 0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:37.440 The hood side of the urban side. 0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:39.480 And I think people appreciate you for it, because I 0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:42.959 do understand a lot of artists don't don't see that side. 0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:45.279 And no knocking them. 0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:48.040 By the time they was coming to a market like this, 0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:52.320 they might almost outgrew the hood or going to the 0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:55.040 part ticket venues or it was on somebody tour the 0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:56.720 while it's like I'm. 0:49:56.640 --> 0:50:01.560 Going wherever they got the bread pulling up to for sure, 0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:03.719 definitely many'll put up to the city one time. And 0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:08.600 before with with the young Jersey, that was less I got. 0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:10.520 I got the picture of that find out. 0:50:11.920 --> 0:50:12.360 The nigga. 0:50:12.360 --> 0:50:15.839 I was started. I didn't know what to hear. 0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:31.879 This was he knew me like. 0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:33.680 This every day man cool. 0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:37.160 I turned up in them well about times in the 0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:42.680 video too. In the bone Shock like video, I appreciate you, man. 0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:48.040 Real fansy all music. Man, let y'all do that for sure. 0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:53.239 I said that mama revenged to my mama. She's like, 0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:54.960 what is it? 0:50:57.520 --> 0:50:58.040 Listen to it? 0:50:58.120 --> 0:51:04.480 She's like this guy for me? Yeah, for me. 0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:08.680 I wanted to ask, bro, how did you cross paths 0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:09.839 with Kevin Gates? 0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:13.280 Our stories is different? 0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:15.719 Who want to tell him? 0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:17.640 Man? 0:51:18.920 --> 0:51:23.360 I say that was like twenty thirteen. It was before 0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:25.880 we actually met this. This is just a strength. Like 0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:28.680 I said, I don't believe in coincidence. So it happened 0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:34.239 like this. I'm pulling to the crib and when i'm 0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:37.160 when I hear my garage, I take it this is 0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:38.720 just dat. It's probably twenty twelve. 0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:38.879 Man. 0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:41.480 I take a CD out whatever I was listening to, 0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:44.400 and so the radio pop song and his satellite radio 0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:45.000 at the time. 0:51:46.000 --> 0:51:46.799 Literally, when I. 0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:49.960 Take the CD out, I hear Case Slaight at the 0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:53.240 time rest of Peace. He like, I hear him asking 0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:55.200 the artists he interview, and it was like, man, so 0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:57.399 what you listening to right now? Like what you got 0:51:57.400 --> 0:52:00.480 in your like if you ever follow this changer, what 0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:03.600 you're listening to? And the artist on this is I man, 0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:06.360 all listening number start leed though. I'm like, I'm in 0:52:06.400 --> 0:52:09.920 the car by myself. The fuck you know, it's just 0:52:10.080 --> 0:52:12.359 I'm about to cut the car. And I sat there 0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:14.560 was like now I'm curious, Like who was just just 0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:17.400 shouting me out on sell like radio. So they played 0:52:17.400 --> 0:52:19.080 some music. When they come back. I figured I was 0:52:19.120 --> 0:52:21.000 like Kevin Guys. I hadn't heard of him at the time, 0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:23.400 and I was like, man, that was real. He was like, man, 0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:26.040 it's the only artist I listened to, and so I 0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:28.359 went and checked his music out from there and was 0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:32.040 I was rocking with it. A few months later, he 0:52:32.120 --> 0:52:34.879 had I Guess signed with Atlantic and one his an 0:52:35.000 --> 0:52:38.239 rs it reached out to me through email was like, man, 0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:40.719 we got this new artist we signed and we want 0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:44.680 to get you on his album one night and I 0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:47.120 was like, yeah, I rock with his music. We can 0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:50.239 swap something out. I do the verse, get him to 0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:52.600 do a churse for me kind of thing, just just 0:52:52.640 --> 0:52:56.000 swap it. They sent the song and knocked it out, 0:52:56.160 --> 0:52:58.360 and uh. I was on the way to Atlanta the 0:52:58.480 --> 0:53:00.839 met trip. We was working on Step two at the time, 0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:02.600 and I was like, man, I'm about to send a 0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:05.000 song when I get to Atlanta. I'm gonna go through 0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:07.680 some beats and send you the song for Bro to 0:53:07.719 --> 0:53:09.960 get on. And they was like, Kevin living in Atlanta 0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:12.520 right now, I'm gonna send you send out each other number. 0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:17.840 This is the man whoever from Atlantic Records, Brian Johnston 0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:22.680 Kyle and so I'm like, cool, you know. 0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:26.400 I reach out Bro, like he liked he rocked with 0:53:26.440 --> 0:53:27.240 the Verse or whatever. 0:53:27.480 --> 0:53:32.040 We went to the studio that night and he ended 0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:34.080 up pulling up at the studio and. 0:53:34.440 --> 0:53:36.680 That was your first time? Yeah, yeah, that was that 0:53:36.760 --> 0:53:37.600 was actually first day. 0:53:38.480 --> 0:53:39.000 Wow. 0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:43.160 So he pulled up to me and Tripp studio session 0:53:43.400 --> 0:53:47.879 and uh like he said, like I said, I guess 0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:52.680 perspectives that was different. But we did at least on 0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:57.840 Life from Step Brothers two, and we did abouttle Bitch 0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:01.600 called Turkey. They had all three of us. Tripping ended 0:54:01.680 --> 0:54:05.440 up leaving and me and Gate stayed there and did 0:54:05.480 --> 0:54:07.960 about four or five more songs and just kind of 0:54:08.000 --> 0:54:11.160 chopped it up from there, you know, just like for 0:54:11.320 --> 0:54:15.600 as the Bond and moving forward like me and Tripping 0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:18.359 ended up joining this tour, Stranging the Fiction tour that far. 0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:21.359 I was on his album the n y B song 0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:24.719 he was on our album toured together, and you know 0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:26.440 the rest pretty much history. 0:54:26.440 --> 0:54:29.319 I talked to Day. It's hard bro y'all. 0:54:29.320 --> 0:54:32.040 I feel like y'all kind of introduced him well to us, 0:54:32.800 --> 0:54:34.880 like it was for me. 0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:40.680 I ain't know that was their first time meeting. I was, man, 0:54:41.320 --> 0:54:44.040 it's never personal. I just don't. I live in the bubble, man, 0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:46.840 it is what it is. So he was like, uh, 0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:50.759 you know my guy Kevin Gates pulling up. I don't 0:54:50.800 --> 0:54:57.200 know who that is. Then when Gates got there, Gates 0:54:57.320 --> 0:55:00.080 went like, again, this is my first time meeting. So 0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:03.879 I'm an, I don't. I guess I don't really talk much. 0:55:04.400 --> 0:55:08.040 So when Gates came in, he sat down and he 0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:12.000 just started talking and he was just I thought that 0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:16.680 niggas knew each other, but Gates was talking talking. He 0:55:16.719 --> 0:55:19.120 was talking about all kinds of ship, A lot of 0:55:19.120 --> 0:55:23.200 ship made very little sense of ship made no sense. 0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:28.680 A lot of ship made since fucking six years later. 0:55:29.719 --> 0:55:32.239 Either way, he was just talking and he was like 0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:35.280 one of the things that it tripped me out because 0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:40.480 it was random, but me, you no, I guess following 0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:44.160 and paying attention to paying more attention to him. Afterwards, 0:55:44.320 --> 0:55:47.000 I understood it for the most part, he just speak 0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:50.239 his mind. But out of the blue, Nigga was like, 0:55:51.360 --> 0:55:54.759 you know, gates goats eat eat cans. They looked at it. 0:55:54.840 --> 0:56:02.279 He's off the cans. I'm like, why it came out 0:56:02.320 --> 0:56:06.560 of nowhere. But then starts where they started playing the music. 0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:08.960 And when they started playing the music like okay, okay, 0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:10.760 I can fuck with it. I fucked with I fucked 0:56:10.760 --> 0:56:14.520 with the passion in it, and all the way up 0:56:14.520 --> 0:56:16.000 into the end, I didn't really I didn't know who 0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:17.320 he was. Ain't know who he was and what he 0:56:17.400 --> 0:56:20.400 do ain't no ship. So when we stopped playing the music, 0:56:20.400 --> 0:56:24.000 I'm okay, No, he got something and start, you know, 0:56:24.600 --> 0:56:28.560 they started discussing making music, and some of the ship 0:56:28.640 --> 0:56:31.880 that he was saying, some of the ship he was 0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:35.359 saying about music kind of changed how I looked at 0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:39.760 certain ship. Because he I can't remember what record, started 0:56:39.800 --> 0:56:43.719 playing him on record, and the record was either too 0:56:43.760 --> 0:56:46.319 long or too short, I can't really remember. But Star 0:56:46.480 --> 0:56:48.480 was like, nah, it was he was scared he was 0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:51.200 gonna make it too long. He was like, well, you know, 0:56:51.280 --> 0:56:53.360 I don't want to do or add another verse to 0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:55.239 it or something, because then the song gonna be too long. 0:56:55.320 --> 0:56:59.120 Gays like, man, how long the song is? Just forty seconds? 0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:01.160 That's all you got, That's all you got to put 0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:03.239 this ship out, eat this ship up. And when he 0:57:03.280 --> 0:57:06.000 said that, I'm like, that's crazy. Listening for the second 0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:10.279 song and then sucking two three years later, everybody's got 0:57:11.280 --> 0:57:15.160 fifty second songs. Nigga was onto something and you know 0:57:15.640 --> 0:57:19.440 the delivery, which was, you know, a bit of odd 0:57:19.480 --> 0:57:21.640 to me, but it made why I said, you know, 0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:24.760 some of the ship makes sense later. But me and 0:57:24.880 --> 0:57:27.080 him then, I could have sworn them niggas had already 0:57:27.120 --> 0:57:30.360 knew each other. But you know, Gates was having like 0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:37.640 personal conversations. I knew the niggas each other, Well, what. 0:57:40.120 --> 0:57:42.000 Haven't met his music prior to then? 0:57:42.320 --> 0:57:45.480 And I think the relationship we had with my music, 0:57:45.600 --> 0:57:48.760 and he like wasn't shy about it. Yeah, a lot 0:57:48.800 --> 0:57:51.040 of it at that point to me, was just kind 0:57:51.040 --> 0:57:53.520 of listening or you know, hearing them ound because he 0:57:53.600 --> 0:57:55.720 was explaining like how you got how and when he 0:57:55.800 --> 0:57:57.880 got introduced to my music, which made a lot of. 0:57:57.880 --> 0:57:58.320 Sense to me. 0:57:59.040 --> 0:58:02.000 And I spent a lot of time in Louisiana, so 0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:05.600 like it was, I think I could. 0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:07.880 I think I. 0:58:07.840 --> 0:58:13.640 Understood what's peculiar, and I just say that, yeah, he 0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:15.120 knew exactly what the nigga. 0:58:14.880 --> 0:58:17.640 Saying, and we bonded right away. And it really wasn't 0:58:17.720 --> 0:58:20.080 much different than than me and Truck working together, like 0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:25.760 the work pay. So the work just kind of just 0:58:25.840 --> 0:58:31.560 natural exactly like effort six seven songs in one session. 0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:33.920 It was all like out of here, you know, that 0:58:34.080 --> 0:58:35.920 was all smashes. I think he was on my call 0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:39.680 talk like four times something like that. As much as 0:58:39.680 --> 0:58:41.840 like you know, some people I get there, like the 0:58:41.840 --> 0:58:43.920 first time I heard and was here for sure. I'm 0:58:43.960 --> 0:58:45.760 sure a lot of people may be heard me for 0:58:45.800 --> 0:58:48.160 the first time on this project, and that was the 0:58:48.160 --> 0:58:48.960 same thing I'm saying. 0:58:49.000 --> 0:58:50.200 That's how I feel like it should go. 0:58:51.040 --> 0:58:56.200 Trying because there's a lot of artists trip early on 0:58:56.240 --> 0:58:59.880 with Yo Gotti working working with dogs, and it's like, 0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:05.560 for sure, we try the audience somewhere and it's some overlap. 0:59:05.680 --> 0:59:10.040 And however, whoever you heard first, how have you heard us? 0:59:10.080 --> 0:59:12.480 Like that's what it's all about, Like me working with 0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:14.240 the younger artists, working with a little baby and no 0:59:14.360 --> 0:59:17.680 cap and et cetera, Like I'm getting new fans, new 0:59:17.720 --> 0:59:20.680 audience even tho I'm ten years older than these as artists, 0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:23.520 and it's just I mean, it's just really just a 0:59:23.600 --> 0:59:27.560 solid But I feel like when it's easy and fun 0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:31.080 and and creative and make music with artists, you gotta 0:59:31.240 --> 0:59:34.520 just like you gotta ride that way. 0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:37.800 I want to ask you this question because you both 0:59:37.800 --> 0:59:39.920 are very vulnerable in your music. You get a lot 0:59:39.920 --> 0:59:41.880 of your fan base like feel like they know everything 0:59:41.880 --> 0:59:42.960 about y'all when they meet y'all. 0:59:42.960 --> 0:59:44.520 Like you said, you just make gates and y'all locked 0:59:44.560 --> 0:59:45.439 in because of the music. 0:59:45.480 --> 0:59:47.800 People hear y'all music, they feel like they know y'all 0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:49.000 instantly when they meet y'all. 0:59:49.240 --> 0:59:55.320 Yeah. Yeah, in most cases it get real awkward. Well, 0:59:55.360 --> 0:59:59.200 you know, I appreciate it, I value it. But I 0:59:59.240 --> 1:00:03.360 think sometimes as people get they get so invested in 1:00:03.440 --> 1:00:07.280 it that they forget that you don't know me. So 1:00:08.880 --> 1:00:10.760 even like, you know, if you're listening to my music 1:00:10.800 --> 1:00:13.720 and you listen enough for you to feel like you 1:00:13.840 --> 1:00:17.760 know me, then one of the first things that should 1:00:17.760 --> 1:00:24.000 stick out is that I not I'm not welcoming. I 1:00:24.080 --> 1:00:27.840 guess if that's the word, you know, So what happens, 1:00:28.360 --> 1:00:30.720 you know, we may be moving around people called I 1:00:30.800 --> 1:00:35.480 was in the airport yesterday and women walk past said, hey, Chris, 1:00:39.040 --> 1:00:42.520 I don't even know you, like I love your music, 1:00:42.760 --> 1:00:45.880 like you love enough to think you could call me Chris. 1:00:46.600 --> 1:00:49.320 But that's how you know some people, some people be 1:00:49.400 --> 1:00:53.800 so into it that the line between you know, entertainment 1:00:53.840 --> 1:00:57.800 and reality is is almost invisible. And again, you know, 1:00:57.880 --> 1:01:06.520 I appreciate it, uh respected, But I think I think 1:01:06.560 --> 1:01:12.200 you know, we're aware of it enough and background is 1:01:12.520 --> 1:01:16.720 pretty much the same, so we make sure to keep 1:01:16.760 --> 1:01:22.480 the boundaries, uh present, if that makes sense. So you know, 1:01:22.600 --> 1:01:24.560 you walk up to me and I'm with my kids, 1:01:24.560 --> 1:01:26.880 I get it. You might not know. You know, I 1:01:26.880 --> 1:01:30.600 ain't done trip with my kids, So you know, I'll 1:01:31.200 --> 1:01:34.320 politely tell you. You know, you know this, I ain't ain't 1:01:34.360 --> 1:01:36.960 doing no pictures or none of that. I got my kids, 1:01:37.200 --> 1:01:39.640 and you know, some people get it, more people get 1:01:39.640 --> 1:01:43.040 it now than you previously. But you know, if you 1:01:43.040 --> 1:01:45.520 don't get it, and so you know, I know that 1:01:45.680 --> 1:01:49.680 if this go sideways, I ain't really gonna get I 1:01:49.720 --> 1:01:52.120 ain't gonna interact with it. You know a lot of 1:01:52.160 --> 1:01:54.800 what's the word, I'm trying my best of diffuse even 1:01:54.840 --> 1:01:56.920 if all I'm gonna do is walk away. I was 1:01:56.960 --> 1:02:00.640 in the fucking put putt one time with my whole 1:02:00.680 --> 1:02:05.480 family and uh, a couple asked for a picture and 1:02:05.520 --> 1:02:07.880 I was like, you know, you know this, ain't you know? 1:02:07.920 --> 1:02:09.760 I can't really do that right now with my family. 1:02:10.240 --> 1:02:12.800 And guy just starts snapping. He was like, man, you 1:02:12.840 --> 1:02:15.400 Hollywood ask niggas a nigga think he this? He think 1:02:15.440 --> 1:02:23.320 you that? And I was like, damn no, see, but 1:02:23.440 --> 1:02:26.959 that's the thing. See earlier I told you I don't 1:02:27.000 --> 1:02:29.480 play well with us, and. 1:02:30.400 --> 1:02:32.680 You sound like him when he the. 1:02:32.640 --> 1:02:36.240 Way my family, the way we was raised is come one, 1:02:36.320 --> 1:02:40.000 come off, So you don't mind if you four feet 1:02:40.080 --> 1:02:43.000 or nine feet, you're gonna get everybody's feet on your ass. 1:02:43.680 --> 1:02:45.440 So you know, but I got my kids, so I 1:02:45.440 --> 1:02:47.920 got to be a father right now, a role model 1:02:48.040 --> 1:02:50.240 so to speak. She can hit the fan. When it 1:02:50.360 --> 1:02:53.560 hit the fan, you vastly out my entire It was 1:02:53.600 --> 1:02:56.720 thirty of us in there, and that's just how we rock. 1:02:56.840 --> 1:03:00.280 So if I, if if any physical altercation would have 1:03:00.320 --> 1:03:03.320 broke out, it would have been the worst case scenario. 1:03:03.880 --> 1:03:07.360 This ship wasn't gonna end lightly. And no, I gotta 1:03:07.400 --> 1:03:10.080 think thirty you know, thirty people stumping you out might 1:03:10.160 --> 1:03:13.680 kill you in him. On top of that, you know, 1:03:13.760 --> 1:03:15.960 what's the effect that have on our kids? He's a 1:03:15.960 --> 1:03:18.560 small you know at that time they were small, but 1:03:18.600 --> 1:03:21.360 he's a small children and you know, there's gonna be 1:03:21.400 --> 1:03:24.280 complete chaos. They the ship they came to putt put 1:03:24.440 --> 1:03:26.480 it be at a fucking I don't know what you 1:03:26.560 --> 1:03:29.120 call it. Was that is that considered an amusement park? 1:03:29.480 --> 1:03:35.800 What it is they can't have They ain't come, you know, 1:03:36.280 --> 1:03:39.320 they ain't come to see a brawl. So you know, 1:03:39.360 --> 1:03:42.400 I gotta you know, I gotta be you know, I 1:03:42.520 --> 1:03:45.600 have to, I gotta think think about the you know, 1:03:45.640 --> 1:03:48.400 the consequences of how far it can go. And I 1:03:48.480 --> 1:03:51.480 get it. You love my music so much that you 1:03:51.560 --> 1:03:53.959 blurred the line. You don't get it, So I'm gonna 1:03:54.120 --> 1:03:56.440 excuse you, even though you know, and they're getting louder 1:03:56.480 --> 1:03:59.920 and louder. I'm like, man, And at this point time, 1:04:00.040 --> 1:04:04.760 my brother was alive, and my brother is what was was. 1:04:06.520 --> 1:04:10.640 He was extremely welcome, but it was a facade. He 1:04:10.760 --> 1:04:13.880 was fake welcome. Like you know, yeah, man, were cool. 1:04:14.480 --> 1:04:17.560 They plotting to rob you, like twenty minutes as soon 1:04:17.600 --> 1:04:20.480 as y'all go to whatever the they for the know 1:04:20.640 --> 1:04:23.760 they're on your ass. So even then, I you know, 1:04:24.400 --> 1:04:27.200 I got to diffuse him because again the way my 1:04:27.280 --> 1:04:30.080 family rocked, if he would have set it off, it 1:04:30.080 --> 1:04:31.800 would have been you know, I wouldn't have been able 1:04:31.840 --> 1:04:34.720 to diffuse it after that. Ain't no a man, it's 1:04:34.760 --> 1:04:36.800 a one on one. We don't we don't know what 1:04:36.920 --> 1:04:39.680 those are. Ship would have gotten. 1:04:40.840 --> 1:04:44.800 Niggas know now, yeah, I see trip, he got the baby. 1:04:45.520 --> 1:04:49.080 If I got, you know you ain't got. So you 1:04:49.080 --> 1:04:51.280 know he ain't. That's severe way. You know, you can't 1:04:51.320 --> 1:04:58.480 speak or don't do the no and don't get up 1:04:58.480 --> 1:05:01.360 said with me because I ain't. You know, I'm standing 1:05:01.400 --> 1:05:03.480 on what I'm standing on and I'm father more them 1:05:03.480 --> 1:05:07.560 and fun because I think you know what happens when 1:05:07.760 --> 1:05:10.200 I turn I take all these fucking pictures with you. 1:05:10.720 --> 1:05:12.440 And now I got to go to the front and 1:05:12.600 --> 1:05:15.000 had them call due to fucking all call because I 1:05:15.040 --> 1:05:17.720 can't find one of my goddamn kids. I was taking 1:05:17.720 --> 1:05:23.360 pictures with joy. Now I'm a bad parents. You know 1:05:23.680 --> 1:05:25.160 I had to. You know, I got a picture of 1:05:25.200 --> 1:05:27.760 time and a place for everything, and you know, if 1:05:27.800 --> 1:05:30.960 I'm in target solo I'm with it. You know, I 1:05:31.080 --> 1:05:32.800 take as many pictures as you want. She was just 1:05:32.880 --> 1:05:35.000 at the game. I ain't turn a single picture down 1:05:35.280 --> 1:05:37.840 when we performed, we know, shit, we will to take 1:05:37.840 --> 1:05:40.560 a picture with every person that's in there. If I 1:05:40.600 --> 1:05:43.120 got my kids, we ain't taking not a single picture. 1:05:43.160 --> 1:05:47.320 And I don't I don't agree with the idea of 1:05:47.400 --> 1:05:50.360 my kids being famous until that's you know, until they 1:05:50.400 --> 1:05:53.000 old enough to make the decision for themselves. So I 1:05:53.000 --> 1:05:54.840 ain't for to sit here and let you take pictures 1:05:54.840 --> 1:05:57.160 of me and my family or you know, you got 1:05:57.240 --> 1:05:59.720 videos of me. And you know, if you you know 1:06:00.240 --> 1:06:01.880 with me in any sort you check my ship. My 1:06:01.960 --> 1:06:05.680 kids ain't all over my social media. And I feel like, 1:06:06.880 --> 1:06:09.280 I think it's a very thin line between that ship 1:06:09.360 --> 1:06:12.280 being cute and that ship being exploited. And I ain't 1:06:12.280 --> 1:06:14.760 trying to get no points off my cute kids. And 1:06:14.800 --> 1:06:18.040 it ain't fucking adorable to me, But dang, what I'm 1:06:18.040 --> 1:06:20.960 in this for? And I feel like I feel like 1:06:21.000 --> 1:06:24.560 in some cases, you know, the more you let people 1:06:24.560 --> 1:06:27.720 blurt the line, no more bleard is gonna get and 1:06:27.840 --> 1:06:30.800 you know, and that shit make my kids extremely uncomfortable, 1:06:30.840 --> 1:06:33.280 and people don't get it I was in came my 1:06:33.400 --> 1:06:36.520 target one day. I have my two oldest kids, and 1:06:37.920 --> 1:06:40.000 you know, I'm naturally with paranoid because we know we're 1:06:40.000 --> 1:06:42.160 come from where we come from. So you know, when 1:06:42.160 --> 1:06:44.040 I come out, I picked this guy standing by this 1:06:44.080 --> 1:06:46.040 truck and keep staring at me. I'm like, man, you 1:06:46.040 --> 1:06:52.040 know I had again paranoid. I've already talked my kids. 1:06:52.160 --> 1:06:54.520 I won't say talking, never been in the scenario. So 1:06:54.520 --> 1:06:57.560 I've already talked talked to them about what to do 1:06:57.600 --> 1:07:00.480 with ship. You know, shit go sideways when we out about, 1:07:00.520 --> 1:07:03.520 and I've explained to them I got enemies I've never 1:07:03.640 --> 1:07:08.520 met because because I'm successful, that's what success brings. So 1:07:09.040 --> 1:07:11.280 you know, when I peeped the dude, I keep walking 1:07:11.480 --> 1:07:13.800 and you know, I'm walking on one side of the 1:07:13.800 --> 1:07:16.320 parking like he on the other side. So I peep 1:07:16.360 --> 1:07:19.760 them crossing, So what's up? And I tell my kids 1:07:19.760 --> 1:07:22.520 to keep going, you know, because if something happened, I 1:07:22.560 --> 1:07:25.520 preferred them to be away from right here. He was like, man, 1:07:26.040 --> 1:07:28.120 I've been circling the park I saw you go in. 1:07:28.200 --> 1:07:31.080 I've been circling the parking lot until you came out. Man, 1:07:31.160 --> 1:07:33.200 fuck with your music so much he was a fan. 1:07:34.080 --> 1:07:35.959 I was like, man, you know how weird that sound? 1:07:36.080 --> 1:07:38.120 You circled the parkam lit. I'm like, in real time, 1:07:38.640 --> 1:07:41.120 I don't know who you are. Like, I appreciate the love, 1:07:41.160 --> 1:07:44.240 I really do. I'm like, man, you know, while I 1:07:44.280 --> 1:07:46.320 was saying that, he looked at my kids, and my 1:07:46.400 --> 1:07:48.880 kids was like this. He was like, damn, man, I 1:07:48.920 --> 1:07:51.880 ain't think about that. You know, I fanned out, and 1:07:52.160 --> 1:07:54.120 you know I ain't peep. I just made your whole 1:07:54.680 --> 1:07:56.240 whole family. But you know, I mean you and your 1:07:56.240 --> 1:08:00.040 family uncomfortable. He was apologizing to them and shit, and 1:08:00.040 --> 1:08:02.920 and when I got in the truck, I asked my kids, 1:08:03.800 --> 1:08:07.360 y'all good. And it was crazy because they, like I said, 1:08:07.360 --> 1:08:10.640 I'm paranoid naturally, and I ain't know that that rubbed 1:08:10.680 --> 1:08:12.760 off on them too. They was like, yeah, Dad, we 1:08:12.840 --> 1:08:15.080 seen him as soon as we walked out. We seen 1:08:15.160 --> 1:08:18.200 him staring at you. So they never stopped paying attention 1:08:18.280 --> 1:08:20.519 to him. And I told them to go to the truck. 1:08:20.560 --> 1:08:25.320 When he stepped over, and when he pointed to my left, 1:08:25.320 --> 1:08:27.360 that's when I realized they only moved like two or 1:08:27.360 --> 1:08:29.240 three cars down. They didn't go all the way to 1:08:29.320 --> 1:08:31.000 the truck. But that's because they trying to make sure 1:08:31.000 --> 1:08:33.439 they see what's going on. But I saw all that. 1:08:33.479 --> 1:08:36.960 You say, you know, if you running to me and 1:08:37.200 --> 1:08:57.320 with my kids, you know, tone it down, you look good. 1:08:57.640 --> 1:09:06.559 You know, sometimes it should just go too. 1:09:06.439 --> 1:09:07.000 Far, man. 1:09:07.520 --> 1:09:08.720 And what's that feeling like? 1:09:08.800 --> 1:09:12.000 Man? When people wrap y'all, y'all, y'all, perform y'all something. 1:09:12.040 --> 1:09:14.719 But you can see the crowd wrapping every word for word, 1:09:15.240 --> 1:09:17.800 Like I play basketball, so you know, you see people 1:09:17.840 --> 1:09:20.640 fan out, they cheerful, you like your stuff, they have 1:09:20.720 --> 1:09:23.760 your jersey on or whatever. But somebody wrapping something you 1:09:23.800 --> 1:09:26.840 wrote word for word, bar for bory. What's that like? 1:09:32.040 --> 1:09:35.280 It's it's a real and it's it's still as surreal 1:09:35.320 --> 1:09:36.599 as the first time. 1:09:38.200 --> 1:09:41.320 It would probably why I could imagine it would be 1:09:42.280 --> 1:09:47.120 it would feel the same way it would feel when 1:09:47.160 --> 1:09:50.240 you when you leaving the game or any time in 1:09:50.280 --> 1:09:54.920 life when somebody got like a basketball called to you. 1:09:55.040 --> 1:09:59.640 Nah, that's different though, because people buy basketball cars or 1:09:59.640 --> 1:10:00.599 sell them. Yeah. 1:10:00.680 --> 1:10:03.000 I don't about that part. 1:10:03.600 --> 1:10:04.800 I can't. I can't see me. 1:10:07.760 --> 1:10:11.240 I think that ship is you for it, you know, 1:10:12.720 --> 1:10:15.080 I don't know, it's I don't know a better way 1:10:15.160 --> 1:10:19.600 to explain it. I think I think that ship, you know, 1:10:19.960 --> 1:10:22.519 it's a special feeling. Yeah, I ain't. 1:10:23.320 --> 1:10:27.240 I ain't never like imagine like none of this for myself. 1:10:27.439 --> 1:10:30.200 Like you said he was listening to the street Ball 1:10:30.360 --> 1:10:34.639 song like I was. I woner who said that should 1:10:34.640 --> 1:10:38.080 have sided want to wrap just on some cool ship 1:10:38.280 --> 1:10:41.160 or or you know, trying to make some money, trying 1:10:41.160 --> 1:10:41.599 to get the. 1:10:41.560 --> 1:10:43.360 Girls, whatever it was at that time. 1:10:43.560 --> 1:10:48.559 Like, I ain't never like expect or you know, look 1:10:48.640 --> 1:10:52.240 at it as being like embraced, well received. Like I 1:10:52.320 --> 1:10:55.680 remember the first time somebody I didn't know telling me 1:10:55.760 --> 1:10:58.080 I was cold, you know what I'm saying, and that 1:10:58.080 --> 1:11:00.479 that meant so much more just truthfully, and like my 1:11:00.720 --> 1:11:02.840 friends and peers people that I was only they could 1:11:02.920 --> 1:11:05.840 just say that it because I'm like, I'm on the 1:11:05.880 --> 1:11:09.280 other side of town and these these dudes don't know me, 1:11:09.479 --> 1:11:11.400 or I'm you know, I'm up at TSU in a 1:11:11.560 --> 1:11:14.960 parking lot like and a cipher just wrapping a cappella, 1:11:15.080 --> 1:11:17.640 and people like or the next day, people. 1:11:17.479 --> 1:11:18.720 Like, man wrap some of us. 1:11:18.880 --> 1:11:21.760 I'm telling my homeboy about you, and it's like, you know, 1:11:21.920 --> 1:11:23.960 so the level up from there to like you said 1:11:24.040 --> 1:11:26.880 something that I wrote down something I put together composed, 1:11:26.960 --> 1:11:31.360 and I'm four or five hours working home, or I'm 1:11:31.520 --> 1:11:33.760 ten hours work from home, or we're on the tour 1:11:33.840 --> 1:11:36.400 and it's like night or night or just just period 1:11:36.439 --> 1:11:39.760 even like the new music just being received, but like 1:11:39.840 --> 1:11:43.120 you said, seeing people really rocking out to it and 1:11:43.160 --> 1:11:44.599 it's like like it's day song. 1:11:45.120 --> 1:11:48.439 Yeah, like damn like cause, I mean, it's a special feeling. 1:11:49.479 --> 1:11:53.679 I always wanted to ask this question, especially for y'all, where. 1:11:53.479 --> 1:11:55.040 Do you get more joy in making the music or 1:11:55.040 --> 1:11:56.760 actually getting able to perform and to share with. 1:11:56.720 --> 1:12:01.000 People, Like it's like even for me is like fifty 1:12:01.040 --> 1:12:04.880 to fifty. I think making the music sometimes I was 1:12:04.960 --> 1:12:09.080 like therapy. And then to the last question, when it's 1:12:09.400 --> 1:12:12.439 received well and it's appreciated, like it's a whole another 1:12:12.520 --> 1:12:15.760 high to share it or like yeah, we might have 1:12:15.840 --> 1:12:18.840 made music a month or two prior or over the 1:12:18.880 --> 1:12:21.160 course of time, but like at the time I'm putting 1:12:21.200 --> 1:12:23.840 it out, I'm almost like enjoying it all over again 1:12:24.120 --> 1:12:26.719 the other people listening to it in real time. 1:12:26.840 --> 1:12:30.400 But that that feedback, that reception, Like. 1:12:32.400 --> 1:12:35.960 The last question that kind of skipped over of how 1:12:35.960 --> 1:12:39.360 do you balance like giving so much personally to people 1:12:39.360 --> 1:12:42.400 feel like they know you. That's the give and type 1:12:42.439 --> 1:12:45.559 of that. It was like for me, my music is 1:12:46.760 --> 1:12:50.200 my personality. My music is like I'm this is all 1:12:50.280 --> 1:12:52.920 I know how to be. You know, once I tapped 1:12:52.920 --> 1:12:54.640 into that, once I got out of like trying to 1:12:54.640 --> 1:12:57.840 work within the system, like I just went with I 1:12:57.920 --> 1:13:00.839 don't be the best me and be the best for myself. 1:13:00.880 --> 1:13:03.920 So people taking it that, it's like I don't really 1:13:03.960 --> 1:13:04.720 get no better than that. 1:13:04.760 --> 1:13:07.240 I don't have to put none on that the good, bad, happy, 1:13:07.280 --> 1:13:11.240 say in between. Because the crazy part is people tend 1:13:11.360 --> 1:13:14.320 to like gravitate toward the darkest. 1:13:14.080 --> 1:13:15.000 The most extreme. 1:13:15.160 --> 1:13:18.320 So you know what I'm saying, I made music that 1:13:18.720 --> 1:13:20.799 for me, I might have been crying on it inside 1:13:21.000 --> 1:13:24.719 making it, but somebody else like, man, this changed my life, 1:13:24.760 --> 1:13:27.120 this got me through this, or like it was right 1:13:27.200 --> 1:13:28.080 with my life right there. 1:13:28.439 --> 1:13:31.000 Damn I was right in my life. But the fact 1:13:31.040 --> 1:13:33.679 that they had that effect on you, like it keep 1:13:33.720 --> 1:13:35.120 me doing it. You know what I'm saying. Let me 1:13:35.160 --> 1:13:36.519 know I ain't doing it for nothing. 1:13:37.280 --> 1:13:40.439 I said, it's saying I think I think the joy 1:13:40.520 --> 1:13:45.160 come from I don't get joy out of creating the music. 1:13:45.280 --> 1:13:48.640 But like you said, creating it is the therapy for me. 1:13:50.960 --> 1:13:57.040 Creating the songs keep me from from the creating the song, 1:13:57.160 --> 1:13:59.280 keep me from doing other ship. I just say that. 1:14:00.760 --> 1:14:03.479 I think the you know, the creating process is more 1:14:03.600 --> 1:14:08.000 like the release. And then you know, the joy comes 1:14:08.000 --> 1:14:12.000 from another person being able to relate to something they 1:14:12.120 --> 1:14:14.960 wasn't president for if that makes sense, you know, to 1:14:15.200 --> 1:14:17.040 meet me and say you went through so and so, 1:14:17.040 --> 1:14:19.640 so and so, because when I'm making the record, I 1:14:19.640 --> 1:14:21.439 ain't thinking about what you're going through, Like you said, 1:14:21.439 --> 1:14:24.320 I'm thinking about what I'm going through, and I think 1:14:24.360 --> 1:14:26.400 that's refreshing for all people to know you ain't the 1:14:26.400 --> 1:14:30.559 only one in that certain battle, whatever that battle is. 1:14:31.400 --> 1:14:34.080 So you know, I think for the most part, the 1:14:34.200 --> 1:14:38.639 joy come from, you know, receipting from from meeting people 1:14:38.680 --> 1:14:39.920 that received the music. 1:14:40.760 --> 1:14:43.160 Even when you said, like the wrestling stuff or like 1:14:43.240 --> 1:14:46.879 generational stuff, like a lot of music is a time capsule. 1:14:47.240 --> 1:14:50.800 So it's just speaking from this the era. This is 1:14:50.800 --> 1:14:53.559 a generation we grew up in. Like it's music that's 1:14:53.560 --> 1:14:55.920 made today that I just don't get. I don't understand 1:14:55.960 --> 1:14:56.280 because I. 1:14:58.600 --> 1:15:00.960 Grow up like you know, saying you'll not be trying 1:15:01.000 --> 1:15:02.840 to put us off you're trying to put us on 1:15:02.920 --> 1:15:03.320 every day. 1:15:03.360 --> 1:15:04.720 I just can't get with it about them. 1:15:05.120 --> 1:15:08.879 But like it's still to say, it's still somebody speaking 1:15:08.960 --> 1:15:12.160 for us or speaking the language that we understand, because 1:15:12.439 --> 1:15:14.880 a lot of my favorite artists that I came up 1:15:14.920 --> 1:15:17.400 on don't do it for me anymore. Like you know 1:15:17.400 --> 1:15:20.439 what I'm saying the same when. 1:15:20.240 --> 1:15:22.800 They making music present day, they trying to keep up 1:15:22.840 --> 1:15:25.960 with a new wave, and it's like, man, just give 1:15:25.960 --> 1:15:28.480 it to me straight the way that you are. 1:15:29.240 --> 1:15:32.639 And so that's that's just something that we tap into. 1:15:32.880 --> 1:15:36.519 Like even even the project Dude, well, I don't know 1:15:36.560 --> 1:15:37.799 if y'all gonna ask about. 1:15:37.560 --> 1:15:40.400 It, it was gonna don't worry about it. 1:15:40.479 --> 1:15:44.240 Yeah, But I mean, it's it's like speaking a language 1:15:44.280 --> 1:15:48.280 that if it's if you know, you know that people 1:15:48.320 --> 1:15:50.080 that relate to it can understand. 1:15:51.400 --> 1:15:52.400 It's like a sweet spot. 1:15:52.920 --> 1:15:54.040 Man, Let's get straight to it. 1:15:54.080 --> 1:15:56.679 Man, it's very hard to make projects with the same 1:15:56.800 --> 1:15:58.759 name and they are still great y'all. 1:15:58.800 --> 1:16:00.840 On the fourth version of this man new Step Brothers 1:16:00.840 --> 1:16:04.920 on the Way Man, indeed, indeed, indeed by your baby 1:16:05.040 --> 1:16:06.080 getting dated away. 1:16:06.439 --> 1:16:09.400 Yeah, we came here really to drop the day it's 1:16:09.400 --> 1:16:12.800 gonna drop it on fire twenty uh may knife step 1:16:12.840 --> 1:16:13.960 Brothers for Life. 1:16:13.800 --> 1:16:15.839 And we're getting the drop. 1:16:17.120 --> 1:16:19.640 Stay Brothers for life. Can I ask you this? Yeah, 1:16:19.680 --> 1:16:23.320 I'm married. I know you're married to Are you still 1:16:23.560 --> 1:16:23.800 you're not. 1:16:34.000 --> 1:16:38.320 Off for the purpose like that? I'm very too well. 1:16:40.640 --> 1:16:42.880 Leave it up my wife. 1:16:43.800 --> 1:16:56.559 Yeah kind of ship start you started, brother to stop 1:16:56.640 --> 1:16:57.320 you in your track? 1:16:57.960 --> 1:17:05.920 Start said Brothers three? Off with that perform that's don't 1:17:05.960 --> 1:17:10.760 say that line, no more respect actually sensors. So I 1:17:10.800 --> 1:17:11.640 had to say it for him. 1:17:13.680 --> 1:17:16.599 We'll let you'll figure that out. How to be responsible. 1:17:23.760 --> 1:17:25.800 For man? But listen, man, you're blessed us somebody you 1:17:25.920 --> 1:17:27.760 for it. Man with made the decision y'all to spend 1:17:27.800 --> 1:17:28.639 it black. Just talk. 1:17:29.640 --> 1:17:37.280 See, I think we ain't never were never not in 1:17:39.080 --> 1:17:41.760 I don't know how you will put that to the 1:17:41.880 --> 1:17:44.840 audience or to the people who listen to our music. 1:17:44.960 --> 1:17:49.120 You'd assume that in between step Brothers three and now 1:17:49.760 --> 1:17:54.320 that you know, we ain't a group or tandem. I 1:17:54.320 --> 1:17:56.280 don't know how you look at it. I understand why 1:17:56.320 --> 1:18:00.320 people think that in real life, in between that we 1:18:00.360 --> 1:18:03.160 ain't miss a beat like he was in the witding, 1:18:03.960 --> 1:18:06.920 We like we know each other, were around each other, 1:18:07.040 --> 1:18:10.680 We talked to each other. We have an actual relationship. 1:18:10.680 --> 1:18:15.760 It's not just music. And even with music, like if 1:18:15.920 --> 1:18:18.280 I'm sure somebody's going to go and do it, if 1:18:18.280 --> 1:18:21.640 you said and counted all the records we've done in between. 1:18:21.640 --> 1:18:27.120 Don't worry about He just asks this this morning. He 1:18:27.320 --> 1:18:29.559 was like, besides, step brother, know how many songs you 1:18:29.560 --> 1:18:31.760 think they actually on each other's album all the time. 1:18:34.520 --> 1:18:36.920 You couldn't count. Okay, but you get what I'm saying 1:18:37.280 --> 1:18:42.800 that our relationship was never contingent on us being the group. 1:18:43.000 --> 1:18:45.519 When we met, we was two solo artists. So we 1:18:45.680 --> 1:18:49.360 just worked so well with each other that we never 1:18:49.439 --> 1:18:53.880 really it don't feel like work. So at some point 1:18:54.720 --> 1:18:57.120 he good with timeline. I don't know how long it's been. 1:18:57.840 --> 1:19:01.599 So at some point, you know, people keep asking about 1:19:01.600 --> 1:19:05.080 step brother's foe, step brother's foe, and I was like, 1:19:05.200 --> 1:19:07.479 you know, ship, we'll get to it when we get 1:19:07.520 --> 1:19:09.840 to it. And somebody, so I think it might have 1:19:09.880 --> 1:19:11.519 been him. How long it's been. 1:19:11.880 --> 1:19:17.439 For years and years and eleven. 1:19:17.280 --> 1:19:20.479 When he did that ship, I was like, oh, that 1:19:20.560 --> 1:19:26.240 makes sense. Then people assume no step brothers folks. Yeah, 1:19:26.280 --> 1:19:27.559 but it's just been life. 1:19:27.840 --> 1:19:30.840 Yeah, and that's I mean, the iron all the album 1:19:30.840 --> 1:19:34.960 being called step Brothers for Life, is we really you know, 1:19:35.160 --> 1:19:38.280 really thugging it out, We really living this and it's 1:19:38.520 --> 1:19:42.640 our music is transparent. Our music is full disclosure if 1:19:42.640 --> 1:19:45.280 you will. But like you just said, every step of 1:19:45.320 --> 1:19:48.920 the way we've been and when we've been at birthday parties, 1:19:49.320 --> 1:19:53.479 funerals for his work, like like every highs and lows, 1:19:54.120 --> 1:19:57.960 and we actually truthfully like on the ground that much 1:19:58.000 --> 1:20:00.679 closer in the time between Step Brothers three and now. 1:20:01.120 --> 1:20:03.559 So I don't I don't think it's felt like eight 1:20:03.640 --> 1:20:06.280 years for us because it was going through everything every 1:20:06.320 --> 1:20:08.920 step of the way to get here. But I also 1:20:09.040 --> 1:20:12.240 think it's like perfect time in divine time. And the 1:20:12.320 --> 1:20:15.360 original plan we dropped three was to drop again that. 1:20:15.479 --> 1:20:17.599 Year, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, he said it, 1:20:17.680 --> 1:20:21.040 and people never let us forget it. 1:20:22.640 --> 1:20:26.320 Like life happened. Yeah, you know, just I mean we 1:20:26.439 --> 1:20:27.519 got to r. 1:20:29.360 --> 1:20:30.960 Real tricky a way. 1:20:31.240 --> 1:20:31.439 You know. 1:20:31.640 --> 1:20:36.679 I think I think right now we're in the space 1:20:37.120 --> 1:20:42.840 or in a in a accessible enough space for us 1:20:42.840 --> 1:20:45.240 to sit down and like I said earlier, we do 1:20:45.360 --> 1:20:49.439 all the Step Brothers records in person, email and that ship. 1:20:49.760 --> 1:20:53.160 Yeah, we never sent a song over for nothing. 1:20:53.160 --> 1:20:57.559 That's every step Brother's tape was recorded in person. And 1:20:58.600 --> 1:20:59.439 how long those take? 1:21:00.080 --> 1:21:03.000 How long does it take? Yeah, like the process if 1:21:03.000 --> 1:21:05.840 you had the first one we did in three sessions. 1:21:06.360 --> 1:21:11.040 Damn. The second one, I don't know, it wasn't that. 1:21:11.479 --> 1:21:11.959 Yeah. 1:21:11.760 --> 1:21:14.800 The second one we started around the time of that 1:21:15.000 --> 1:21:19.320 session with Kevin Gates, which was like early twenty thirteen, 1:21:19.640 --> 1:21:24.280 and we finished it like early summer by the time. 1:21:25.160 --> 1:21:27.559 Is that the one we did the mixtape for two. 1:21:27.520 --> 1:21:31.639 Nah, that was three, but it was it wasn't three sessions. 1:21:31.680 --> 1:21:34.599 It wasn't quite as fast as the first one, but 1:21:35.320 --> 1:21:37.600 we just would link out of town and it was 1:21:37.640 --> 1:21:40.080 going to Atlanta a lot and just getting in the 1:21:40.200 --> 1:21:41.519 last it wasn't many sessions. 1:21:42.200 --> 1:21:45.719 And the last one same thing. We just get together. 1:21:45.720 --> 1:21:49.080 We did like an ep a short mix tape and 1:21:49.200 --> 1:21:51.280 the album at the same time. And that was over 1:21:51.320 --> 1:21:53.560 the course of like really the majority of it in 1:21:53.560 --> 1:21:57.519 about two months two months time, maybe five or six sessions. 1:21:57.600 --> 1:22:02.040 And with this one, we we've gotten with maybe four 1:22:02.120 --> 1:22:06.200 or five sessions and got the majority of it together 1:22:06.760 --> 1:22:09.479 just I mean, even our last session we did four 1:22:09.560 --> 1:22:14.160 songs in one session, just not even. 1:22:14.000 --> 1:22:16.040 Really thinking about it. But in that time between, like 1:22:16.080 --> 1:22:18.880 we had sessions where we ain't even probably play no beats. 1:22:18.880 --> 1:22:21.360 We just sat in there chopping it like this, look 1:22:21.439 --> 1:22:24.040 up and everybody tired, and we're just going our way 1:22:24.080 --> 1:22:28.960 because it just might be necessary as homeboys just to talk, 1:22:29.320 --> 1:22:31.160 you know what I'm saying, and them conversations that won't 1:22:31.160 --> 1:22:32.439 make the best records anyway. 1:22:33.040 --> 1:22:36.559 Yeah, it turns it into the art, But we don't 1:22:36.640 --> 1:22:40.360 really like you know, like I said, you know, that's 1:22:40.400 --> 1:22:44.960 my brother. So we on no schedule, so to speak. 1:22:45.520 --> 1:22:47.439 So when we when we do go win of course, 1:22:47.439 --> 1:22:50.479 you know, when we booking time, we keep that in 1:22:50.560 --> 1:22:54.280 mind that you know, we got paid into whatever, but 1:22:54.360 --> 1:22:55.960 we don't really you know, I don't know. It don't 1:22:55.960 --> 1:22:58.479 feel like work, so I don't much keep up with. 1:22:58.520 --> 1:23:01.720 It just happens how we have and we don't do 1:23:01.840 --> 1:23:05.000 the you know, like when you're sitting saying, man, we 1:23:05.080 --> 1:23:07.760 got to come up with a fucking single or catch 1:23:07.800 --> 1:23:09.600 it this or whatever. The fuck. We ain't in no 1:23:09.640 --> 1:23:12.080 none of that. We go and whatever happens when we 1:23:12.080 --> 1:23:14.240 were in there, and it happens, and that's what we 1:23:14.320 --> 1:23:17.720 go with, and so far, that's what our careers have 1:23:17.840 --> 1:23:20.919 been based off you know, us individually and as a tandem. 1:23:20.920 --> 1:23:23.920 It's this has worked because we've been who we really are. 1:23:24.400 --> 1:23:26.519 And you know, it don't make no sense to try 1:23:26.600 --> 1:23:27.360 reading at the wheel. 1:23:27.400 --> 1:23:30.800 Now. I'm just trying to think, like y'all don't I 1:23:30.960 --> 1:23:34.320 never hear y'all recycle shit, But y'all dropped so much music, 1:23:35.080 --> 1:23:37.960 Like I ain't gonna lie probably to recycled so much 1:23:37.960 --> 1:23:38.840 shit and I. 1:23:38.760 --> 1:23:43.280 Can't remember all this shit. Yeah, you drop thirty six. 1:23:43.120 --> 1:23:47.479 Albums, Yeah, that's why you do that. Like what what 1:23:47.520 --> 1:23:49.519 made you just get in the studio? Like, man, I'm 1:23:49.600 --> 1:23:52.080 dropping twenty five albums in two years. 1:23:52.360 --> 1:23:58.040 Man, we let people believe that me and him made 1:23:58.080 --> 1:24:01.679 some kind of bet, but real time because he dropped 1:24:02.360 --> 1:24:08.920 two times. I said, just dropped. I sat in it 1:24:09.080 --> 1:24:13.200 and I was in the studio where one of my 1:24:14.120 --> 1:24:18.000 rap friends he paid passed away U long lived Casino Jiggle. 1:24:18.560 --> 1:24:20.599 But while I was in the studio, I was working 1:24:20.680 --> 1:24:22.800 on the record. I was working on the record. Well, 1:24:22.960 --> 1:24:25.639 I was doing a verse for him, and he was like, man, 1:24:25.640 --> 1:24:29.600 when you're gonna drop something else? I was like, you know, 1:24:29.640 --> 1:24:31.200 I just dropped him. He was like, it's been about 1:24:31.240 --> 1:24:33.599 two years and said what and you know, we said, 1:24:33.640 --> 1:24:37.040 we do the go through my timeline, and this was 1:24:37.120 --> 1:24:43.400 like maybe twenty twenty one, and maybe either way, you know, 1:24:43.760 --> 1:24:46.320 I looked at my last release and him like, damn, 1:24:46.320 --> 1:24:48.880 you know it has been a minute, and I had 1:24:48.920 --> 1:24:52.840 no excuse for why I hadn't released. So actually that 1:24:52.840 --> 1:24:54.800 that kind of spawned the idea of mind, I'm gonna 1:24:54.800 --> 1:24:56.439 put a tape out, And every time I said I'm 1:24:56.439 --> 1:24:58.600 put the tape out, I didn't put a tape out. 1:24:58.920 --> 1:25:01.519 And are you to overthink it? You know, I sit 1:25:01.640 --> 1:25:05.000 and do fucking forty songs and then pick fifteen songs 1:25:05.400 --> 1:25:07.800 and then everything else just sit on the hard drive. 1:25:09.280 --> 1:25:11.439 So at some point I don't really know what it was, 1:25:11.560 --> 1:25:13.880 but I sat and I'm looking at all these fucking 1:25:13.920 --> 1:25:16.960 songs on this hard drive. It's just there. Nobody's ever 1:25:17.040 --> 1:25:19.479 heard any of it, and I said, man, fuck it, 1:25:19.520 --> 1:25:21.920 I'm gonna put this shit out. Then I thought about 1:25:21.960 --> 1:25:24.759 it again. I said, no, fuck it, I'm just gonna 1:25:24.920 --> 1:25:27.840 put everything. Y'all that shit's still on the hard drive. 1:25:28.160 --> 1:25:30.559 I'm like, you know, fuck this, I'm gonna put every 1:25:30.640 --> 1:25:33.960 From from that moment forward, I said, every record I 1:25:34.080 --> 1:25:37.040 record I'm gonna release. They don't much make sense to 1:25:37.040 --> 1:25:40.120 hold on to it. I ain't I don't have to 1:25:40.200 --> 1:25:43.000 answer to nobody, so don't much make any sense. And 1:25:43.080 --> 1:25:46.320 then I'm in my own studio, so I ain't even 1:25:46.400 --> 1:25:48.920 on no clock. So I said, fuck it, I'm gonna 1:25:48.920 --> 1:25:52.840 put out everything, and uh, well, the first one, the 1:25:52.840 --> 1:25:56.320 first tape is eight records. So I told myself I 1:25:56.360 --> 1:25:58.960 wouldn't ever put something out that's less than eight records. 1:25:58.960 --> 1:26:01.320 I feel like people do it all the time, and 1:26:01.800 --> 1:26:05.920 each his own. I felt like that wouldn't be I 1:26:05.920 --> 1:26:09.439 felt like I'd be doing my audience at disservice to 1:26:09.520 --> 1:26:13.320 give you less than eight records. So I had no 1:26:13.439 --> 1:26:17.759 goal you. The end of that month, I called is Distributed. 1:26:17.800 --> 1:26:19.640 I'm like, you know, hey, I got eight records. I 1:26:19.680 --> 1:26:22.439 want to put this tape out, so let's do it. 1:26:22.560 --> 1:26:25.080 I did that. I said, you know, do the same 1:26:25.120 --> 1:26:29.080 thing and ship. After about four or five of them, 1:26:29.120 --> 1:26:30.880 I say, you know, I think I can do whole 1:26:30.920 --> 1:26:34.000 gear work for this ship. They said, yeah, sure, you know. 1:26:34.880 --> 1:26:38.320 They've heard it all from everybody, So even a distribution 1:26:38.479 --> 1:26:42.080 company didn't know why I was dead ass serious. So 1:26:42.200 --> 1:26:44.720 when I did them twelve really on the eleventh one. 1:26:44.840 --> 1:26:48.599 On the eleventh one, I don't pay attention to the numbers. 1:26:49.280 --> 1:26:51.400 So you know, they calling me and they telling me 1:26:51.479 --> 1:26:56.120 how successful the ship was. I said, oh, I can 1:26:56.240 --> 1:27:01.519 do this with twelve moments. Man. When I started, when 1:27:01.520 --> 1:27:05.160 I started on that second twelve Oh man, I was 1:27:05.160 --> 1:27:08.400 so exhausted. When I got to fucking twenty fourth tape, 1:27:08.920 --> 1:27:12.680 I said, it could the way I my process is 1:27:12.680 --> 1:27:14.879 different now. I used to be one of those artists 1:27:14.880 --> 1:27:17.559 always in the studio every day. I record a record 1:27:17.600 --> 1:27:21.760 every day. Now, throughout the whole twenty four tapes I 1:27:21.880 --> 1:27:25.360 probably recorded, I probably was in the studio for three 1:27:25.439 --> 1:27:28.639 days out of every one of those months now, And 1:27:29.000 --> 1:27:31.679 I mean, Craig can tell you we I don't remember 1:27:31.680 --> 1:27:34.120 what tape it was that I was in New York 1:27:34.200 --> 1:27:37.519 doing the press run and man, him was on the phone, 1:27:37.600 --> 1:27:39.360 was on the phone for a while. We was on 1:27:39.400 --> 1:27:42.280 the phone, and I want to say, called me about 1:27:42.280 --> 1:27:47.360 a particular song that he was working on. And throughout 1:27:47.360 --> 1:27:51.480 the conversation, you know, it really was this particular conversation, 1:27:51.560 --> 1:27:54.479 I was more an ear than a voice. I'm just 1:27:54.560 --> 1:27:58.760 listening to him, I'm hearing him out. So at the 1:27:58.880 --> 1:28:02.680 end of the conversation, I think I was like, you know, 1:28:02.720 --> 1:28:04.720 I got to call our engineer because I can't get 1:28:04.720 --> 1:28:06.200 this ship to work like it was to work, like 1:28:06.200 --> 1:28:09.120 you know, trying to record here in the hotel, and 1:28:09.160 --> 1:28:10.559 I can't get this ship to work. 1:28:10.640 --> 1:28:10.800 Right. 1:28:10.880 --> 1:28:15.080 He said, okay, you know, and he's fully aware of 1:28:15.200 --> 1:28:18.760 the time frame you have to release music. And it 1:28:18.840 --> 1:28:21.640 might have been like a Sunday or Monday. We on 1:28:21.680 --> 1:28:24.559 the phone and he was like, okay. When you dropping 1:28:24.600 --> 1:28:27.680 him like Friday, You're like, okay, okay, shit, hapn't you 1:28:27.800 --> 1:28:31.040 got not a single fucking song. I don't have anything. 1:28:31.360 --> 1:28:33.479 And she's got to be turned in like Tuesday or 1:28:33.520 --> 1:28:36.840 Wednesday for the shit to really be released. And Craig 1:28:37.000 --> 1:28:40.479 was like, man, how the fuck you got nothing? I 1:28:40.680 --> 1:28:45.360 got ship, And you know, by Wednesday I had leased 1:28:45.520 --> 1:28:47.479 fourteen or twelve songs at least. I don't know how 1:28:47.520 --> 1:28:49.840 many it went on that tape. I had the whole tape. 1:28:49.920 --> 1:28:53.760 I don't know, man, Just time's twenty four like he 1:28:53.800 --> 1:28:54.920 did this twenty four time. 1:28:55.160 --> 1:28:59.160 Yeah, like, hell, bro, I have no idea, man, I really, like, 1:28:59.200 --> 1:29:02.320 I said a second, just let whatever happens happens. If 1:29:02.360 --> 1:29:04.840 you go to each one of those. Every song is 1:29:04.880 --> 1:29:08.120 probably three hundred some songs. No two songs are the same. 1:29:08.240 --> 1:29:10.680 I didn't sit and say, you know, I'm gonna do 1:29:10.720 --> 1:29:12.759 this kind of record or make this kind of song. 1:29:13.360 --> 1:29:17.360 I cycled through beats and whatever popping my head. That's 1:29:17.360 --> 1:29:19.360 what I say. That's what I'm saying. With it be 1:29:19.400 --> 1:29:21.719 in my real life. I don't have to worry about 1:29:21.920 --> 1:29:23.320 saying something I can't stand on. 1:29:23.680 --> 1:29:27.519 That's that's amazing to me, Like how y'all can think 1:29:27.560 --> 1:29:29.760 of this ship like I don't. 1:29:29.960 --> 1:29:31.559 I can shout out to y'all man. 1:29:33.520 --> 1:29:37.320 Everybody process is different. And when he was going through that, 1:29:37.680 --> 1:29:39.479 like at some point he said he was gonna do 1:29:39.520 --> 1:29:42.840 it for a year, maybe halfway through or through the 1:29:42.840 --> 1:29:46.280 first year. So I hadn't dropped in like three years. 1:29:46.320 --> 1:29:50.479 Just I was kind of like fuck and seeing him 1:29:50.520 --> 1:29:52.880 go through that and conversation was happening because I was, 1:29:52.960 --> 1:29:55.240 you know, I was on about half of those projects. 1:29:55.600 --> 1:29:57.680 I kind of worked my way out of out of 1:29:57.720 --> 1:30:00.360 that rug or that space, and I did I Love 1:30:00.439 --> 1:30:03.160 Drug album, And it was kind of like at that time, 1:30:03.200 --> 1:30:05.280 like all right, I'm gonna drop. In December, he had 1:30:05.320 --> 1:30:08.600 dropped eleven projects already I thought he was about to 1:30:08.600 --> 1:30:11.719 turn the corner and do step Brothers after that, because 1:30:11.720 --> 1:30:13.599 he's gonna do the twelve. 1:30:15.040 --> 1:30:17.160 Yeah, I'm trying to get right and kind of like 1:30:17.560 --> 1:30:20.640 I got when he did the twelve one and I'm like, 1:30:20.720 --> 1:30:22.320 all right, what's good? Bro? 1:30:22.400 --> 1:30:24.880 He was like, I'm about to drop this January. I'm like, 1:30:25.680 --> 1:30:26.639 you just did twelve. 1:30:26.640 --> 1:30:27.960 He's like, do it again. 1:30:29.200 --> 1:30:33.759 You know, look what happened when I did the twelve. 1:30:35.439 --> 1:30:37.960 People people would cut you know, some people are gonna 1:30:37.960 --> 1:30:40.200 give you credit, and a lot of people liked to 1:30:40.200 --> 1:30:43.960 give back hand compliments. So one person to say, man, 1:30:43.960 --> 1:30:46.800 it's amazing he did twelve records in the year. And 1:30:46.840 --> 1:30:50.880 then somebody pop up and say, Poos did it first. 1:30:51.120 --> 1:30:55.599 Then somebody said Currency did it first. I'm like, man, 1:30:55.680 --> 1:30:57.120 I don't know if they did it or not, but 1:30:57.439 --> 1:31:00.000 that ain't the point. That's like saying, man about it 1:31:00.080 --> 1:31:03.400 house and shit. Yeah, but my brother bought one before 1:31:03.439 --> 1:31:07.720 you that matter. And I never respond to it because 1:31:07.760 --> 1:31:09.760 I know how quick get and get twisted, and you know, 1:31:10.680 --> 1:31:15.519 my response could couldn't make Currency turn around and read it, 1:31:15.560 --> 1:31:18.559 and you know, because naturally you'd be like fuck him. 1:31:18.880 --> 1:31:20.519 It's I got nothing to do with him. But it's 1:31:20.520 --> 1:31:22.519 easy for that to be misconstrued. And that's the last 1:31:22.560 --> 1:31:25.280 thing I want is for somebody to be able to 1:31:25.280 --> 1:31:27.400 take something I said and turn it into something. I 1:31:27.479 --> 1:31:30.639 pride myself on what I say, so when I start 1:31:30.720 --> 1:31:33.400 seeing it, I said, all right, okay, edy time somebody 1:31:33.400 --> 1:31:37.519 mentioned fucking twelve, y'all got somebody else did it? Showed 1:31:37.520 --> 1:31:41.519 me somebody done twenty four. Now toil you show me 1:31:41.560 --> 1:31:44.040 somebody that done twenty four. I don't respect your coming 1:31:44.280 --> 1:31:47.519 by somebody else did it before I did it. I 1:31:47.560 --> 1:31:49.280 had to. It was I had I had a point 1:31:49.280 --> 1:31:54.000 to prove to you for a whole year. 1:31:54.080 --> 1:31:55.799 Yeah, it was so much music. 1:31:55.960 --> 1:31:57.000 Like me and Mike. 1:31:57.120 --> 1:31:59.080 Like I told you we'd be sharing the music. He'd 1:31:59.080 --> 1:32:01.639 be like, you heard a trip out. I'm like, damn, nigga, 1:32:01.640 --> 1:32:05.360 I just played it. He's like, now he dropped another. 1:32:05.439 --> 1:32:07.240 I said, all right, I tripped out. He had lost me. 1:32:07.280 --> 1:32:11.840 Now say, looks I'm on half of them. When I 1:32:11.840 --> 1:32:12.559 still call. 1:32:12.560 --> 1:32:16.800 Over, I was about to say, I think that's the 1:32:16.800 --> 1:32:19.360 beauty of it. I ain't put all the music out, 1:32:19.880 --> 1:32:22.120 but I mean it happened. There are people who like 1:32:22.280 --> 1:32:26.400 listen to every record when it dropped, and I appreciate 1:32:26.479 --> 1:32:31.080 that well. I also value the person who you know, 1:32:31.160 --> 1:32:34.040 out of twenty four tapes, they didn't make it past thirteen. 1:32:35.040 --> 1:32:38.479 That thirteen tape, they was living in that space, and 1:32:38.520 --> 1:32:40.799 that's that tape speak to him. I had. It happens 1:32:40.840 --> 1:32:44.600 all the time where people reach out and tell me 1:32:44.600 --> 1:32:47.960 about old records. They just not hearing this record, like, man, 1:32:48.080 --> 1:32:50.360 what you said on so and so so and so record? Man, 1:32:50.560 --> 1:32:53.400 it spoke to me. I had been playing say let's 1:32:53.400 --> 1:32:55.320 for so long, you know, I was, you know, I 1:32:55.360 --> 1:32:57.720 was stuck on that and then I heard this new ship. Man, 1:32:57.760 --> 1:33:00.439 I fuck with it, and I kind of look at 1:33:00.479 --> 1:33:03.479 that ship like Netflix series and shiit like, you know, 1:33:03.960 --> 1:33:07.320 you might not be hip to the film or the show. 1:33:07.360 --> 1:33:11.400 They came out four years ago. Younounced enough of it 1:33:11.479 --> 1:33:14.280 for you to binge if you want to binge if 1:33:14.320 --> 1:33:16.640 you know some of us only like what we like, 1:33:16.800 --> 1:33:19.120 like if shit. I got a playlist right now. It's 1:33:19.160 --> 1:33:21.880 all R and B and it's probably field. It's probably 1:33:22.720 --> 1:33:25.080 there might be ten records that's been put out in 1:33:25.280 --> 1:33:28.479 since twenty twenty that's on this in this playlist. Everything 1:33:28.479 --> 1:33:31.320 else is from me growing up or you know, whatever 1:33:31.439 --> 1:33:34.519 time period it was when I heard it. So I 1:33:34.640 --> 1:33:37.560 understand when people, you know, when they live with the 1:33:37.640 --> 1:33:41.280 music so tough that they got no no, no ear 1:33:41.360 --> 1:33:43.639 for anything else. I don't want to hear the newer shit. 1:33:43.960 --> 1:33:45.840 I want to hear this. This is what I love, 1:33:46.080 --> 1:33:48.200 you know, this is what drives me. And if they 1:33:48.280 --> 1:33:50.280 never move on to another record, so be it. 1:33:50.320 --> 1:33:52.360 I know you. 1:33:53.840 --> 1:33:54.400 Hold on to it. 1:33:57.320 --> 1:34:00.760 I think I was good rappers my They all know 1:34:00.800 --> 1:34:04.400 my wife obviously, but my wife, she don't listen to nothing, 1:34:04.520 --> 1:34:08.639 really listen to Spanish music and occasionally Little Waye. 1:34:08.880 --> 1:34:11.880 So she was like your wife Spanish. Yeah, okay. 1:34:11.960 --> 1:34:18.960 So I was like, that's different, don't start it makes 1:34:18.960 --> 1:34:22.360 sense now, but she like out of nowhere. 1:34:22.439 --> 1:34:23.120 I swear to guy. 1:34:23.160 --> 1:34:25.040 I never talked to her about music because me and 1:34:25.080 --> 1:34:27.599 her argue about music. And she was like, the startle 1:34:27.880 --> 1:34:46.120 guy can rap. He's pretty good. I'm like, I swear. 1:34:46.400 --> 1:34:48.519 I started laughing and she was like what. 1:34:48.680 --> 1:34:50.960 I was like, you don't know that. She was like, no, 1:34:51.479 --> 1:34:53.759 I like their voice and she was like trip down trip. 1:34:53.840 --> 1:34:56.559 I started crying and I was like, I'm gonna tell 1:34:56.600 --> 1:34:57.639 him that were about the interview. 1:34:57.640 --> 1:35:00.280 She's like, you about the interview though, right them in 1:35:00.320 --> 1:35:04.240 the morning, I got I really didn't know where to 1:35:04.640 --> 1:35:11.000 heard like k. 1:35:13.600 --> 1:35:13.960 Like that. 1:35:15.560 --> 1:35:20.840 In the morning, like in the morning, while bro, just 1:35:20.880 --> 1:35:22.000 you actually. 1:35:24.760 --> 1:35:27.840 What I saying this is a cool incidence. 1:35:29.800 --> 1:35:38.719 About to get you. That's really I mean with that. Yeah, 1:35:39.400 --> 1:35:40.360 that's back to that. 1:35:40.560 --> 1:35:44.240 Like for for us as artists, I could never like 1:35:44.360 --> 1:35:47.600 imagine the reach of the music where it's gonna go. 1:35:48.560 --> 1:35:52.240 I made songs where I would have thought women would 1:35:52.280 --> 1:35:55.000 have hated me for making a song and they be 1:35:55.040 --> 1:35:57.400 the one that they take to the one that they love, 1:35:57.720 --> 1:36:01.400 or you know, I make something so personal, what's so vulnerable, 1:36:01.680 --> 1:36:03.640 and I'm like, maybe nobody else will be able to 1:36:03.680 --> 1:36:06.559 feel this because it's just uniquely my own experience and 1:36:06.600 --> 1:36:09.320 then it's the standout record or whatever. 1:36:09.439 --> 1:36:12.599 So like, I mean, that's that's what's so I love 1:36:12.640 --> 1:36:13.639 to know what it was. 1:36:15.280 --> 1:36:19.000 Me too. I was hell a few. 1:36:19.640 --> 1:36:22.080 Definitely appreciate your longevity and this ship. 1:36:22.120 --> 1:36:22.280 Man. 1:36:23.240 --> 1:36:29.400 Definitely appreciate y'all for pulling up to Yeah, definitely for us. 1:36:29.439 --> 1:36:30.360 I can't wait for ste. 1:36:32.320 --> 1:36:36.479 Tap In you got to drop onlub five twenty. We 1:36:36.600 --> 1:36:37.479 appreciate that. 1:36:37.800 --> 1:36:40.120 Come on, man, you know we supported up here in 1:36:40.240 --> 1:36:42.479 may knife tap in sir brothers about life. 1:36:42.800 --> 1:36:45.080 We appreciate y'all. We're gonna have to do this again. Man, 1:36:45.479 --> 1:36:48.080 man with it. Man, I ain't you know, I don't 1:36:48.400 --> 1:36:53.160 much agree to traveling to people. 1:36:53.280 --> 1:36:58.960 So because you don't get along with nobody, no no 1:37:00.120 --> 1:37:04.600 for me, my bad for me. I don't know. 1:37:04.960 --> 1:37:09.160 It always means something to me when when people really, 1:37:09.320 --> 1:37:12.000 you know, really rock with us. You know, I don't 1:37:12.040 --> 1:37:15.880 got no you know, I ain't no coach sign. Nobody 1:37:16.120 --> 1:37:18.439 hit you and say, you know, here's my artist or 1:37:18.479 --> 1:37:21.240 here's the guy we're working with or whatever. You know, 1:37:21.280 --> 1:37:23.480 if you fuck with me, you fuck with me genuinely 1:37:23.520 --> 1:37:28.559 because of me. You know that ship I I couldn't 1:37:28.600 --> 1:37:31.559 go without showing my appreciation back. 1:37:31.600 --> 1:37:33.040 So love bro. 1:37:33.680 --> 1:37:34.800 I was like, ship, let's do it. 1:37:34.840 --> 1:37:35.280 I'm with it. 1:37:35.720 --> 1:37:37.800 We appreciate it. We definitely fun with y'all. 1:37:38.280 --> 1:37:41.639 Like I mean, obviously from the shoes, you can say, 1:37:41.680 --> 1:37:44.880 I'm a fan fan of the platform. 1:37:46.680 --> 1:37:51.479 I wanted to talk more basketball. It was a couple 1:37:51.520 --> 1:37:53.719 of things. One of my partners wanted me to bring 1:37:53.840 --> 1:37:57.759 up and see if you remember playing Nashville Celtics, saying 1:37:57.800 --> 1:38:01.240 he gave y'all thirty five my home, Jamie Graham. 1:38:01.640 --> 1:38:05.640 That was that was one thing. You might damn thirty five. 1:38:07.040 --> 1:38:07.599 Then we win. 1:38:08.520 --> 1:38:10.920 I think you said y'all might have won that one 1:38:10.960 --> 1:38:13.320 and they beat on another tournament that was that was 1:38:13.360 --> 1:38:14.000 pretty fun. 1:38:14.800 --> 1:38:17.400 But Ship, I ain't gonna lie never playing no defense. 1:38:20.360 --> 1:38:24.639 He probably had thirty five shouting Bro shouting gay because 1:38:25.520 --> 1:38:26.120 no defense. 1:38:27.520 --> 1:38:35.640 Jam he played evanderbiltball. 1:38:34.479 --> 1:38:40.000 Did playing I'm here to shoot this ball. That's what 1:38:40.120 --> 1:38:40.360 I was. 1:38:41.400 --> 1:38:44.080 I wanted to ask God, it's just add ball question. 1:38:44.160 --> 1:38:47.240 What's your favorite basketball movie of all time? 1:38:47.880 --> 1:38:48.839 My Blue Chips? 1:38:51.520 --> 1:38:54.040 He got a game, bro, No, Ray Allen is the 1:38:54.120 --> 1:38:56.800 greatest basketball movie character ever. 1:38:57.040 --> 1:39:01.120 The basketball movie with the word script of all time. 1:39:02.720 --> 1:39:03.120 I like. 1:39:07.960 --> 1:39:09.040 My Who Dreams? 1:39:09.720 --> 1:39:10.240 Who Dreams? 1:39:11.200 --> 1:39:13.880 It was like almost like that was a documentary. 1:39:14.439 --> 1:39:16.960 That was that was too real. 1:39:18.240 --> 1:39:20.160 That was my and I ain't going to the NB 1:39:20.240 --> 1:39:21.040 A moment. 1:39:23.200 --> 1:39:28.120 Just period like was on the like Sunday Park. 1:39:28.920 --> 1:39:32.400 But I like Blue Chips, damn trip part give me 1:39:33.360 --> 1:39:40.200 part that the part was cool, butter, I guess about saying, 1:39:40.200 --> 1:39:44.080 but playing the ball, my boy blue the ball. 1:39:50.640 --> 1:39:55.120 Like Blue Chips. 1:39:55.040 --> 1:40:00.920 So got because it was you know, they was good, 1:40:00.960 --> 1:40:04.759 but the way they was man Vin Shepherd and the thermer. 1:40:04.840 --> 1:40:05.920 Bro was putting in work. 1:40:05.960 --> 1:40:06.080 Bro. 1:40:06.360 --> 1:40:07.760 He shot the same shot. 1:40:07.680 --> 1:40:12.000 Twenty three the same min was like quarters in a 1:40:13.120 --> 1:40:17.960 fresh offen. I ain't never was a space GM fan. 1:40:19.240 --> 1:40:21.280 I didn't like like toy movies and stuff like that. 1:40:21.360 --> 1:40:24.120 Yea disrespect for the first place gym classic y'all say. 1:40:26.040 --> 1:40:35.960 Acting that ship Tren. 1:40:36.200 --> 1:40:38.280 Know if you love basketball when you was a child, 1:40:38.479 --> 1:40:42.000 that you might like. I grew I got older brothers 1:40:42.000 --> 1:40:47.479 and sisters, so I ain't really okay. I watched like 1:40:48.240 --> 1:40:51.559 sneak and watch contas. Yeah, I don't like him. I 1:40:51.560 --> 1:40:56.240 grew up thinking Alan Iverson was a creative player for real. 1:40:56.360 --> 1:40:58.920 My brother was like, excuse me, no, you got know 1:40:59.040 --> 1:41:02.559 my brother, like you know, I'm younger, it's real, Like, Yo. 1:41:02.479 --> 1:41:05.640 You're gonna play like I'm like, who the fuck is that? 1:41:06.040 --> 1:41:08.920 He's like, yeah, you're gonna play just like him, thinking 1:41:08.920 --> 1:41:10.479 he didn't create this nigga in his head. 1:41:10.560 --> 1:41:14.000 Something he showed me, and I was like like this 1:41:14.080 --> 1:41:15.240 nigga good? 1:41:16.240 --> 1:41:16.439 Yeah? 1:41:16.520 --> 1:41:27.320 Then I got break. Y'all know it was outside. 1:41:27.320 --> 1:41:31.439 I an't really watched unless it was was crazy. 1:41:32.160 --> 1:41:32.360 I was. 1:41:33.120 --> 1:41:37.559 I was really I didn't bro. My brother told me 1:41:37.760 --> 1:41:39.840 all we watched wrestling, bro, that's all I watched. 1:41:40.320 --> 1:41:42.960 Dig it, Yeah, you should watch it out and wrestling 1:41:43.120 --> 1:41:46.760 That's all I watched growing up. Dang, and it probably 1:41:47.479 --> 1:41:52.600 was not a good thing because I was already. 1:41:52.240 --> 1:41:54.560 He took that wrestling ship to the n B. 1:41:54.640 --> 1:42:00.960 A like character came on the show. He's got start player, 1:42:02.600 --> 1:42:04.599 Like I said, why I couldn't play man, I would 1:42:04.640 --> 1:42:06.679 have definitely been I would have been running on test. 1:42:08.200 --> 1:42:10.640 I had some glimpses around our choice. Yeah, like, man, 1:42:10.680 --> 1:42:15.120 he's been injected for the first seven games, every game. 1:42:16.520 --> 1:42:19.479 Who is your favorite player? Growing up? Hard? 1:42:20.120 --> 1:42:20.559 For sure? 1:42:22.160 --> 1:42:22.879 He had laid. 1:42:25.479 --> 1:42:27.280 Who is your game? Like if you said you played 1:42:27.280 --> 1:42:29.800 like somebody? Man? 1:42:29.800 --> 1:42:38.519 That's at the time because the time I graduated too. 1:42:40.000 --> 1:42:46.439 At one point it was like the miles tall, slim 1:42:46.479 --> 1:42:46.880 and ship. 1:42:47.520 --> 1:42:49.080 Is that the one wagon quass too? 1:42:49.800 --> 1:42:50.200 Oh too? 1:42:51.040 --> 1:42:55.519 I think so year before bron that's JJ Redick in 1:42:55.560 --> 1:43:01.360 them class yeah, mar Stout, Marimellow, yeah a class yeah. 1:43:01.120 --> 1:43:08.240 I felt running felt and cans. We played them Junior Olympics. Hm, 1:43:09.040 --> 1:43:10.040 did you give them buckets? 1:43:10.800 --> 1:43:13.320 And people don't? 1:43:14.000 --> 1:43:18.640 Sean mccams was the best player I'll call against the 1:43:18.720 --> 1:43:24.160 court for real, Like at the time I graduated court 1:43:24.200 --> 1:43:26.200 brus in my in my district in high school. 1:43:26.320 --> 1:43:28.720 But he's like a couple of years behind me. He 1:43:28.880 --> 1:43:32.200 was nice, Okay, you. 1:43:32.160 --> 1:43:34.719 Played against some you just wann't no regular Rake ball player. 1:43:34.760 --> 1:43:36.360 You played against the NBA time. 1:43:36.600 --> 1:43:40.679 Yea, we played like hollo you Yeah. You can hear 1:43:40.720 --> 1:43:43.360 in his rats, like when he talked about basketball, like 1:43:43.880 --> 1:43:46.280 the way he talked about him, like he really played basketball, 1:43:46.439 --> 1:43:49.439 and some people who played basketball like I get thirty, 1:43:49.520 --> 1:43:50.000 like Curry. 1:43:50.080 --> 1:43:50.479 It's like. 1:43:53.360 --> 1:43:55.240 Said, was that one of your boys. 1:43:58.320 --> 1:43:59.040 That can. 1:44:04.040 --> 1:44:04.320 Come on? 1:44:04.439 --> 1:44:05.040 DJ man? 1:44:06.560 --> 1:44:11.599 What's another team? We said, you know, you know, exact 1:44:11.680 --> 1:44:18.280 studio my house. For the wrong reason, I just wanted 1:44:18.320 --> 1:44:24.720 to make the video getting cracked on that sail board man. 1:44:25.160 --> 1:44:26.080 What that means. 1:44:29.439 --> 1:44:32.760 Say not trip starling, we. 1:44:32.920 --> 1:44:36.200 Out of here, bro, but lively out. 1:44:37.080 --> 1:44:43.000 So the volume

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