Game Mess Mornings 11/20/23
Grubb is joined by Jordan Middler to chat about the Last of Us Part 2 Remaster, Valve celebrating Half-Life's 25th anniversary, David Hayter hinting at future Metal Gear, and more!
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2023-11-20
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Be bad. It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do this for November twentieth, twenty twenty three. For the next hour or so, let me help you sort through the world of gaming on Game mess Morning's Live with me Jeff Grub. Today, gamers are bewildered by Sony's latest new game announcement and a major game hits a big anniversary. But first, please join me and welcome in today's go host coach the Gameless Mornings. It's Jordan Middler. Everybody, Jordan, how are you doing. I'm good man, I'm back. I'm out of the gates. Hell, I've been released from Robinson's peasant camp. All verything about Call of Duty Lloyd does, and I'm ready to talk about the news. How are you, man, I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good. You were you were in the guide mines like all year long. It was one of those years. Huh very much. I don't know if you've heard of that's Google. But the algorithm robot across the across the whole space of games has decided that we're gonna make you make so much less money than you said last year. So everyone's shutting themselves. Yep. Guides, GUIDs, guides, and there's been a general downturn and press and the big games of the year generally compared to the pandemic. Here man, the money we were making them. Pandemic off, bring it back, Bring it back. But yeah, it's not where I've been, you know it was. It's strange because it's like, you know, it is high tide, low tide. Elden Ring was a gold mine. Uh, and then earlier this year it's like, oh, yeah, we're gonna have several of those this year, and it's like, no, Actually, the kind of cancel each other out in some ways. I mean, uh, people, and really the people are playing so many games, they do get to a point where like, actually, we just want to know how to beat this thing. Can you just tell me that so I can get back to playing my game. I don't care about any of this other bullshit you're writing about there. I'm just playing games right now. So tell me how to tell me how to beat the fucking boss on level three so I can get back to playing this game. I want nothing else to do with you. And it's like, oh, you know what, at a certain point, fair, fair enough, I get it. But it's uh, it's difficult to like put your finger on that pulse and figure out where or put your figure to the air and figure out where it's gonna blow next. Right, And also because Google or Robin bastards have started doing this thing where they will steal like a line of text that basically gives the game away and just put it on the page. And you won't get a page for your well not even they pay you for that content. I mean, that's not theirs, right, So no, no, no, no, weird. And they so here's the thing. They've created an ecosystem where then we have to write guides of four hundred words to answer a question that can be answered in three words. Yeah, robots, just I love words, Give me more words, repeat that keyword, repeat the type. People have seen that and being like, oh, we don't, we don't, that's that's a bit too much. Didn't read And we'll just steal your content and put it on the front page and give you absolutely fuck all for it. And the Internet is going down the tubes. Support independent media. I'm so glad you're here because this morning, just this morning, I was like I could just like start my own website, like just just like, should you start my own website? I could probably make money. I'm so glad you're telling me how stupid I am. What a stupid bastard I am for thinking that the web is dead on I p you dead? Yeah, it's I mean, listen, at some points it lived. In some points, it's it's fucking dead pretty much. Yeah, but how you've been otherwise? I mean listen, it's it's uh, it's still busy er. You got to make you got to make do with what you got. But did you were you able to like keep up with the games you wanted to play all that stuff? Or was it just a hot mess? Oh? Brother? I reviewed everything, basically, I played everything. The only game this year was I Am Adio Wonder. I've been playing that in my spare time. Cool ottle game. I can see why. It's why it's doing my own game of the year. It's no star Field. But yeah, you know, here's the thing, and this is going to get me roasted a live by people who alread Do you think I'm a shell? You know? The thing that's been the biggest surprise for me last year, The good old, the good PSP PSP. I'm still trying to get my hands on one. But I knew I would love that thing the second I saw it, So I'm glad. I'm glad to hear so many people seem to be like, yeah, no, actually this does make more sense than we originally thought. A big part of it is like it's just well made, right. It seems like a like they did a really good job with the build quality and the quality of the streaming and all that. It's the thing is Sony makes brilliant hardware. It's the same with the PlayStation VR. All their stuff feels so good to talk, like all their controllers in that. So, yes, it's a it's a really nice piece of cat that wouldn't it worn't wouldn't fat everyone's lifestyle, But it seems still fat enough people's lifestyle because I don't know how as in the US, but it's completely sold out in the UK. Yeah, So the Jim Ryan Swan song, I think we can really just say absolute salute to the one and only the legend himself, m Ryan. Of course. All right, let's explain what we do here most week days, I Jeff Grub will help piece your gaming life back together. That includes breaking news and maybe even some of our own original reporting. For all these topics, I'll get the input of a Bone of Fight expert who will make me look smart. If you were watching live on twitch welcome, You can always listen to the show later on podcast fads by searching for Game Mess Mornings, or find the RSS on Giantbond dot com. You can also catch the show later with chapters and timestamps on YouTube. Speaking of course, say hello YouTube, I know, I know everyone's waiting for it, blue ball and everybody speaking of a show later, Hey, everybody, More tickets are on sale for our live show in Los Angeles, California, on December ninth, Saturday at noon. We've moved to a larger venue, so more tickets are on sale. We'll probably have a link somewhere someone can drop in the chat here, We'll have it in the description and all that stuff. But yeah, if you were like, oh man, it sucks sold out so fast last time, now you have a chance to go ahead and get tickets. I think that. I'm pretty sure pricing is the same. I'm pretty sure seating all works is the same, where it's kind of first come, first serve sort of thing. But yeah, go ahead and grab those tickets, come hang out with us. It'll be our Game of the Year finale. We'll be doing a lot of other Game of the Year content leading up to that, a lot of other podcasts, other categories in the days before that, but this will be the finale with a couple other categories and actually crowning Giant Bombs Game of the Year. So really looking forward to that. We've got special guests, We've got the whole crew coming out to LA. It's gonna be a good time. Any chance you would be in LA for the Game Awards? Jordan? Look, brother, I was on the I was on flight Trackers about five minutes before the show, and I was like, how much back paid the Giant Bomb? Actually only at this point that we could make us work. I'm presuming that I wouldn't need to pay for a tecer because you know, I'm a part of the family. Yeah, it's genuinely only five hundred quids to fly there for like a day. I get a hotel, then fly the next day, So I'd be flying longer than I was. I would be in that hell hole of Los Angeles. But you know what, you know what we'll see. You might hear my music right right as the show goes off the air, and then let will corporate logo comes up. I'll come backstage smashed down over the head. Yeah, don't tell me, just tell Jen. He'll make it happen, all right. He'll be able to make the music cap and all that stuff. So we'll see that beauty. All right. So here we are, everybody you ready? Hello YouTube? All right, we have a lot to get into, so let's start the morning mass with the Last of Us Part two Remastered officially announced for PS five upgrade path of detailed. This is from Jordan Midler at VGC. Following earlier leaks, Naughty Dog has officially announced the Last of Us Part two Remastered for PS five on a Friday night. The game, which will be released on PlayStation five on January nineteenth, twenty twenty four, will also receive a physical deluxe edition. The WLF edition will include steelbook display case, four enamel pins, a Washington Liberation front patch, and a total of forty seven Society of Champions trading cards, including eight holographic cards. This version of the game will be exclusively available at PlayStation director in the United States, United Kingdom, Germany, France, Benilux, Italy, Spain, Portugal and Austria. Did I say Benilux, right, yeah, that Belgium and luxembark. Well it's just Belgium and Luxeburg. There's no no third one in there. Oh man, Yeah, that's right. You don't have to know that anymore. That's right, You're scott free, as they say, all right. Naughty Duck is also confirmed the PS four anders we'll be able to upgrade to the PS five version of the game for ten dollars. Saves from the PS four version will also carry over into the Last of Us Part two Remastered. The Last of Us Part two Remastered officially announced for PS five. The upgraded details are I mean, hey, it's it's that game again, and there are some improvements. Allegedly, some screenshots comparisons were circulated online. At first I thought they were joke, and they looked exactly the same. It's like, no diminishing returns. This is just how it works. I get why this is happening, Jordan, Right, they have a TV show that's very popular. They need to These games are so big and expensive that they kind of can't just have one round of making money off of games. Like this. They need to go back to the well over and over again and whatever. I get it. They have fans that will that will show up for that, and also there are new fans all the time thanks to the TV show. So you have Part one and Part two on store shelves, maybe eventually Part one and Part two together in a single box. That makes a lot of sense. But I think a lot of games are like, this is a three year old game already being remastered. What the hell is happening here? People need to calm down. Okay, people need to relax about that situation. I think Naughty Dog didn't help themselves because the last thing they put out was that Part one. And if this had just came out at the same time as all the other ten dollars upgrades to PlayStation five that happened early in the gen, yeah, no one would buy an eye. Also, the compartison screenshots are very funny. I did like that very well. Be able to see the differences when it runs, though I think it will run like beautifully. It's already it was already like a ridiculous looking game one PS four, So who cares if Alias here is a bit more like scraggly or whatever. Right, But yeah, I'm going to play it again. I think the Last of Us Part two, for my money, as the best game ever made. So if they're going to put it on a on a new console, I'm going to play it. I've not played it since twenty twenty, so it's I'm just glad it's not a director's cut situation where they're trying to charge seventy credit for this, because that's that would be pest taking. It has new content. It has like these lost level sequences that they're they're adding into. It has a roguelike mode. Yeah, that's the thing that really gets me because I'm I'm the one of the guys out there always saying this game would be better if I had a ruguelike mode, And well, now the Last is part two, diyes, So I got to put my money where my mouth is and actually play that. Yeah, and the I think it's a it's a bigger it's a better package than people are given at credit. I don't know if they're even given at credit. They're just meming on it, which is fair enough. We lost to meme in this community thing. Like on its face, it's it is absurd, like three years later, we're we're already remastering a game. But yeah, if you dig into it's like, actually, they're they're kind of just charging ten dollars for something in between an expansion dates. A lot of these things feel like they would come in other games as updates, But those games aren't the biggest fucking game ever made in a lot of ways, Like those games aren't two hundred million dollar projects the way that this one is. So again, I mean, I'm a little bit understanding of Sony trying to be like this is these are the games you want, if that's if this is what you want from us, this is kind of how it has to be in terms of the business model. Uh. And most fans who do show up for these games, I don't think are complaining. They seem pretty excited to have any new thing happening with the last of Us. Yeah, and that WLA F edition will sail out immediately, like the Yeah, the physical version of the Part one did. And although if you remember, they shipped those and like paper bags, so by the time they go up to people's houses, they were kecked cull to shit. So I'm sure they'll do that again. Oh yeah, put PlayStation's right, it's a wonderful service. But also if you think new drug Comman is set and working on this, you have rocks in your head. Yes, like they are on their new thing. This is like a wetworks team getting like people need their relax about that. Yeah, I mean that's not only is that like how that happened? Like that's entirely the point, right, is that the next big game takes so long and Naughty Dog is so big. They have all these people who kind of would be doing nothing until that next project is in a position where their work can actually apply to that, and that's happening for seemingly most of their projects. That's why we got the Last of US one remaster one. And it's like, well, they already have all of those skills in place. Why wouldn't you just have them continue working on that stuff for the next thing so you could so they can be you know, they could stay sharp, and also we could have a new product of some sort. Yeah, it's it's almost like it happens as a natural process of figuring out a way to keep everyone busy at Naughty Dog and keeping everyone employed and not having to do the thing where it's like we just released the game, and now we don't have any work for these people for a few years, we might as well lay everyone off, Like this really is an alternative to that. And again, so as I look at this, I'm like, I am very forgiving of these things for the most part, even though it is absurd. Well, because we just don't we don't think about that stuff too much. We're just like a three year old game doesn't need to be remastered. What the fuck are you talking about? But it's like remaster, it's just a word we use to position something as a product on a shelf, and it does apply here whatever buy it or don't. I will be interesting to see how much of a difference we will see when it's running. The sixty frames per second update already happened for the PS four version, and this will be four K as opposed to the fourteen forty P that was upscaled to four K on for the PS four version. But I can't tell the difference between fourteen forty P on a TV and four K, especially when it's upscaled. So I'll be interested to see if people really do notice that stuff. These siyes ken, these eyes can do it. Well, yeah, you're you're a superhuman and just about of insight baseball here. You think about the way that's all went down, because obviously there'd been west but it's about that's for a while, people and the no kind of knew what was going on, but then appeared on the PlayStation database and all kind of crackled out, And then was a pr to be like, yeah, his website, do you think games don't really get games? Sometimes got noticed on a Friday, but all like a Friday night before. Now we can yeah, we don't think that's what's gonna go downe we know. I mean I think we kind of like can reverse engineer what happened here a little bit. Right, It's the thing leaked. It was pretty clear and because what everyone did know about it pretty clear that it was true. And that created the puddle news cycle of everyone going are they going to charge seventy dollars for this? Are they? Are they psychotic? And so the anxieties are blowing up, and and so's naughty Dogs going like, please, we don't want to spend our weekend having people message us about selling this thing for seventy dollars. Can we just tell them what's going on? And everyone's like, yep, we have to let's just tell them what's going on, and it's it's that simple. And at a certain point, I'm like, I'm glad the industry is at a point where it's like they're tapped in enough to be like, let's just call these anxieties right now. It's just a little bit frustrating that we are still so uneasy all the time about how the industries go to treat us and treat our wallets. So yeah, I mean, I don't know how did you end up feeling about it? I thought it was if it wasn't going to be announced on the Friday, It felt like it was going to be announced sooner than like the Game Awards, because they were very ready to roll with with full blog posts and stuff like that of stuff. It's like, feels like it should could be at the Game Awards between now and like that Dragon's Dogma too stuff, It's like, why wouldn't that be at the game It's it's just not going to fucking be at the Game Awards before that, as I totally agree with you, I liked how they were they came on Twitter and they were like, Okay, it's leaked fifteen minutes till the real trailer, fifteen minutes till all the information you need, all that stuff, and they kind of wrestled back the narrative as soon as you could put up that image that was like ten dollar ps four Updred that's that. That was like the counters. Oh my god, we're charging a million pounds for a game from twenty twenty. But yeah, it doesn't make me wonder though, what what the token PlayStation thing is for the Game Awards, because Naughty Dog are great for a week trailer like that just just shoved in there, Like what's it going to be ever going to get? Is it going to be a Barlogs game? Is it going to be this weird Gold of warhaf sequel that is on the way I think that's going on here. Like I'm at a point with with Sony where I'm like very afraid to build up people's hope because I thought that last place in PlayStation Showcase and I was told that they were very proud of that PlayStation Showcase before I knew it was in it, And so when it was getting promoted I'm like, no, let's get our hopes up that this is great. And now we've like that happened, and no one was happy with that, And they haven't made any real big announcements about their future lineup since then. So there's like this big gap of like expectation for PlayStation. A company has historically been very happy to be like, hey, and three goddamn years, you're gonna be playing this gigantic game and that gigantic game and maybe even this, and they've sort of scaled back on that stuff for I'm sure a variety of reasons. We can diagnose those, I'm sure here, but it's like, for the most part, it's like, oh, gamers are just like they're used to it, being one way, knowing a lot about PlayStation's release lineup and now not knowing so much what there's death straining to Wolverine and I'm not sure if there's much else. But so yeah, every time we have an opportunity for them to announce something big, I'm like, yeah, they probably could, but I doubt it would be something as big as Barlocks game. I think they would just be I think they're going to just say that stuff for the next showcase for the most part. I'm also I totally agree. I cannot believe they didn't at least logo Sushima too, Like that seems like that that is one that'veually been hiding for so that's not so I'm like, oh my god, I can't believe they're doing that kind of situation. And they have enough. They have enough stuff that us was stuff wasn't really actively coming out, but they had Spider Man on the way, they have Death trying to woverene where you can afford a logo or two, Like, I mean, it's not we don't have to go back to the days. Persony just did a complete conference. It was like, here's ten logos and that's it. But yeah, they should be a bit more. I think there should be a wee bit more forward looking. I don't know if that's a big gym Ryan call or if it's certain right, who's the one that's saying this is when we are saying about this kind of stuff and a lot change and though that Jambo is on his future day of our show. Yeah, if I either like guess and this would be a complete guess. But I think Jim Ryan inherited a lot of previously announced things that became maybe slight headaches for him, and so he was just like, let's just be careful about that. And we like, we're looking around the industry. No one really sees a detrimental effect from announcing a game six months before it's released, and actually we probably save a lot of money on marketing by waiting until that six to three month window before we really kick things into gears. So let's just do that going forward. So yeah, I mean Jim Ryan was big on saving money on that stuff. He was. He was the one that pulled them out of BE three. So it's like him looking at that, but like, this is a big expenditure and we don't need to do this. Let's save that, you know, two million dollars, save this two million dollars earned at a certain point. Yeah, go ahead, Just Betty b Flay, slacker Chan on the chot says, wasn't there twisted O game? Hotman and VGC reporters on that there still as a test. Yeah, there's a twist mental game. That's yeah, we reported it here as well, Like that's the one that was started at god who can't remember anymore. The Studio one, Studio and it moved to another and now I can't. Yeah, yeah, Sony Loverpool or Sony Loverpool still kicking up all it was good as as as keeking about the Yeah, it got restarted to the point where it's like it was never going to be able to come out in time for that TV show. But maybe season two. I mean that should seem to do fine. So yeah, we'll see, uh real quick before we get to the next story I have Martyr. You mentioned Whispers, and it reminded me I wanted to clarify something so that that uh uh story about the good Knights of the Old Republic cannot being worked on anywhere anywhere. I want to clarify that, like that comes very much from like Sony just kind of wanting to be done with it. Like my stuff mostly comes from that side. Maybe I heard a little bit from Lucas. It's like they it seems deader than dogshit, because that game feels like it cannot happen unless it has a partner like Sony, and because Sony is out that they seem to be out uh, and Lucas does not like spending money on games anymore. What they do is they find partners who want to develop, and then they have those partners either find a way to self fund or to find a partner of their own. And that's what the con nights of the Old Republic process was, Hey, we found a story that wants to make it, and we found Sony who wants to help fund it, make it happen. Well, with the big funding kind of being pulled, it seems like to me, it's like, oh, that's definitely done and there's no reason for anyone to be working on it now. The reality is maybe someone somewhere is still imagining that that game could happen, and there could be someone working on it. I don't know that far. I don't know what's happening inside Embracers, so to clarify, maybe something's happening there. The reality is, though, they would have to find someone to make that game happen with, and I know that Lucas is very horny to make it happen, like they've been wanting to have a Knights with the Old Republic remake for years. So I think if Embracer can find someone, maybe that could still happen. But I don't know. So there you go, clarified as Dead that's gone. Yeah, it's coming out the same time as The Agent, the the like. Listen, the bottom line here that people care about will I ever be playing that game? The answer to that is almost certainly not. I mean that's you know, as we try to as I try to clarify here that if that's your focus, that's still the answer. Yeah. I'm just gonna I'm just gonna pouse for when less is clept. Yeah, hand on, there we go. There were good stuff, all right, all right. Valve marks Half Life's twenty fifth anniversary with game update and documentary. This is from Andy Robinson at VGC. Valve has marked Half Life's twenty fifth anniversary with several several promotions and content drops, including an extensive new update for the original game, as detailed on the new twenty fifth anniversary site. Valve has added new multiplayer maps, restored game content, graphics options, and full Steam Deck compatibility. Valve is also making the occasion by marking the occasion by making Half Life free to keep for anyone adding it to their Steam library this weekend, and putting the rest of the games in the franchise on discount. Finally, Valve has released an hour long documentary made in partnership with Secret Tape, in which the original development team share their memories of creating Valve's first game. The last Half Life game vir title Half Life Alex, was released in twenty twenty. This is pretty cool. I'm at a point where I am very nostalgic about about not just like playing the games, but hearing from the people involved in making them. One of my favorite experiences this year was the making of Karatica, and this is in that realm. I'm like, I almost wish it's like this could work like that, where it's like play the game and have it all kind of exist in that in that same piece of software. But hey, I mean if they're doing all this work and creating a standalone documentary, that's great as well. This is pretty cool, right, Yeah, this is great. Be FOBREADI himself, dannield Wire for making us happen. Yes, be good work over there. He's been talking about doing something on Half Life since the day No Clut launch, Yes, so this must be a huge kind of relief for him. Obviously, this wasn't No Clut. That's has like new kind of boutique and house agency for companies that want to sell fund it because obviously, as if it's Valve's money, is going to be a certain way of how this is going to go versus yeah, crowdfunded. But yeah, I think this is this is great, especially for Valve, a company who loves to have people decippeate onto it and you never hear from them again, and you never hear what games that we're working on. That's kind of controlled access, I think is brilliant. I've have you watched any of it? I've not. I've not watched yet. I intend to watch it this week if I get some time, although it's going to be kind of tough with Thanksgiving come up over here. But but yeah, I mean, you know, you're right. It reminds me a little bit of The Last Dance with Michael Jordan, where it's like that is Michael Jordan's production company, and that's not really journalism. But let's be clear, Danny knows what he's doing. He's good at He's good at getting these companies, even when they are funding the project, to talk about things in a candid way that is useful and and I mean I think he's one of the best at doing that. So uh, yeah, I'm not like mad about this in any way. The reality is it wouldn't happen any other way. I mean, the last time it did like it did happen was with did Keiley do a the Last Hours of Half Life Alex? I can't remember, or he did on one before that? Maybe yeah, it was Half Life two, I can't quite remember, Like Alex is the only Half Life game I've ever played. The funneling off really just to see these as a blame spot for me, like when when it was coming up, I don't have access to PC against the first time I ever owned it was the Orange Box on three Sex Days, so I I didn't have a great PC at the time, and I was definitely playing more mostly console games, but Half Life was the one making enough ruck is that I checked it out. I'm like, yeah, I get it, this seems pretty good, but I didn't fall in love with it the way a lot of people did. So too busy playing Golden Eye with Travis Kelcey. Of course, all right, we're gonna take a quick break. We got a lot more news to get to after that. I'll still be here with the beautiful Jordan Midller until then, see you soon. We're back Jordan Midler, and we're talking about Warner Brothers denying that the Wonder Woman game will be a service game. After that job listing that mentioned that this is from Ryan Densdale over at IgM, a Monolith Productions job listing suggest the upcoming Wonder Woman game we'll have live service elements, but one of my brothers is saying that it's focus will be squarely on single player. It's originally reported by w ccf Tech Monolith of Middle Earth, Shadow of Mordor. Fame's currently looking for a lead software engineer of gameplay on Wonder Woman and what's the candidate to have experience in helping maintain a live service product or game when this happened, Jordan, I'm sure like if you guys wrote about this, you guys might have mentioned this as well. When people put this in job listings, it doesn't mean all that much. Like what was the big basis of our conversation when we originally talked about this, You can only take so much from a job listing. People want a variety of skills for any number of reasons, not because it's like, oh, the game is one that people do that with With Mentroy Prime four all the time those there's a million job listings for that, and people like this is what this means for Metro Prime four And the reality is it means jack shit for for these games? Yeah, and was this was a great another great example of how news is disseminated on Twitter now because not Joe Westing became Wonder Woman as a live service team. As the end of the one would we've seen it get a new truth rule with plus three? I canna say on it, but yeah, it's nice to see what you're about to read happened. Yeah, let's see here. This comes despite Wonder Woman being announced as a single player, open world action game feature an original story, with neither developer Monolith or publisher Warner Brothers Games mentioning live service elements previously. Wander Brothers responded with a statement to ig and denying that it will be a live service game. Wonder Woman is a single player action adventure game set in a dynamic open world. The third person experience will allow players to become Diana of the Missouria and introduce an original story set in the DC universe, while also featuring the Nemesis system. Wonder Woman is not being designed as a live service, Warner Brothers spokesperson said. Now. Previously, Warner Brothers CEO David Saslov said the companies focused on transforming our biggest franchises from largely largely console PC based with three or four year release schedules to include more always on gameplay through live services, multi platform and free to play extensions, with the goal to have more players spending more time on more platforms. Now, David Zaslov obviously muddied the waters there a little bit while this was all happening. He basically said that and then a couple of days later if this job listing happened, so everyone's like, well, clearly one in one makes too. But again it's like, you know, I think we would have heard one way or the other if that was the case. And turns out no, that's not what they're making. At least that's what their claim. Now. I bet, I bet Wonder Woman has some sort of like live service shadow inside of it where it's like, yeah, they might have updates that game over time, or they might like it might get a rogue light mode. That's a very popular thing to do with a lot of different games, and so maybe that comes eventually. Is they want someone who has the ability to build a game that could turn into that through an update at some point of time, but clearly as the product will be sold, it's going to be a single player a game. But boy, that the specter of live service is a thing for a lot of gamers right now, right yeah, it must really send the ships up a lot of teams that are currently working on live service games to see every single they must just collate a doc of every time one of these happens to send it to upper management to be like, this is what is going to happen, and it's only going to get more toxic the later we leave this. How do how does the how does WB not see the massive success of single player asks Spider Man one and two and not go okay, let's just do one of those or even more so, we made the best Superhero well that that too, and also a generation ago we made three of the best superior games ever and they had not one lick of like online component to them. It's yeah, it's I'm glad it's going to be single player. Is reaffirmed that they're going to use the Nemesis system. Got to use that pattern. They got to get the money out of that. Yeah, but yeah, it ends about half expired by now, right. Yeah, so they only had ten more. They're gonna get like maybe one or two more games out of that before that expires. Yeah, although it's going to be like when was it Namcore or something had the patent for any games in the loading screen and no one that anything with it, So just like exactly, that's a lot of work. Fuck that. Yeah, when did you think this game is? Wait? Five? Uh, that seems that's it's probably twenty six. I would say, like we got a story coming up next, We're talking about Wolverine, and it's like, okay, I mean listen, I didn't necessarily really think that would definitely be twenty twenty four, But it's like, if that's getting pushed out a little bit further. I think Wonder Room it's twenty twenty six to the earliest probably, and even that seems like who knows, that could be further along or further out than that. What do you think? I wonder if we got a Hogwarts sequel before we get Wonder Woman. Hogwarts sequel is almost certainly all already in full development now right. They've got the castle, they've got the water. You don't need to change it, you just need to like beuld. I suppose like another section. Let people go through the other bets of the story they want to. But the money that game made, like come on now, Yeah, I wonder what will happen with us. I also wonder if suicide Squads scared them a little bit, they're like, okay, we need to We can't have a suicide squad game that comes in a little bit med. Although from what I'm hearing, your loving suicide squad now your team suicide. Oh yeah, that's right. This might be in this number one hater I got. I'd spray paint and purple spots all over my body just let people know. Then I am weak for suicide Squad. Yes, but yeah I could I could see maybe twenty sex for wonder Woman, late twenty five for I suppose three years pretty quick. But if it's just the same world, I could see I could see them fitting Wonder Woman and Hogwarts too, and within twenty sex if you get me like before that kind of area, and God love us, if we ever get another fucking Batman gave me that's just terrible business making another Batman game. People don't like Batman and it's never been popular. Who is Batman? Bat Who? Yeah? I mean okay, I mean at a certain point, like you get it, like if rock Steady wants to do something different, it's like then you get to a point where it's like, hey, well, now you've been making a suicide squad a squad game for a fucking decade. Is that what you really wanted? Are you fucking serious? The people that came to work at rock Steady because they love the Batman games have been making a bucket suicide squad for eight years. That's not what anyone wanted. So, I mean, at least I don't believe that's what anyone wanted. Maybe I'm wrong. We'll see you gotta think that. Look, rock Steady is in the UK. You're not wrong, You're wrong. Good luck to everyone over there at rock Steady. If you can get through this, maybe we'll get back to some real shit. Uh you know what, suicide squad. It's probably gonna be fun though, Jordan, come on, man, let's play. You can come play with the Sun Giant Bob when that thing's out. That would be fun. Yeah, yeah, I being captain Bam is not one of them. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, Captain mister Boomerang is definitely sounds like one of them. But who It's impossible. It's impossible to know at this point, all right, And sami I Wolverine won't release until twenty twenty five, it report claims. This is from Mike Straw at Insider Gaming. Marvel's Wolverine game from Insomniac won't release until twenty twenty five. At least, that's what a new report claims. According to known leaker Daniel Richmond, not only will the upcoming game not be released in twenty twenty four, but will also feature a darker and more violent tone than past games from the studio. And this is something I said before when I mentioned the hard R thing, and everyone got very upset with me because that means something different than the last time I heard the term used. As far as location, it's set to be in Madropore, a Southeast Asian city within the Marvel universe. The city has long been used as a haven for pirates after being built upon the back of a dragon. Fucking comics are stupid. Its proximity to the most important as reports makes it a largely lawless haven for smugglers, secret societies, and warlords. We saw that in the trailer Wolverine, where Logan was hanging out at a bar in madropor and kind of setting a tone there. Yeah, I mean, listen, even if this game comes out in twenty twenty five, that's like, that's still in Samniac sticking to their rapid release schedule. That's just it will be you know, a year, two years off of Spider Man two. That's really impressive, right, yeah, very much. So don't Twitter report me on this. But I had the conversation about Wolvering a while a while ago, and it seemed that things are going at Insomniac pace. And the biggest sticking point was with Disney Slash PlayStation Slash all rights holders. Let them make it, yes, horrifically violent like Wolverine ass Wolverine game. Durdy's out on that, but yeah, I could, I could see twenty twenty five. There's been a lot of conversation about does so no spoilers for Spider Man two the game, but there's ways in which Spider Man two sets up potential like half games in DLCs, Like is where does that fit in Insomniac has the two teams, where's my boy Ratchet? When are we getting back to another Ratchet game? So yeah, twenty twenty five sounds all right. Yeah. Do you think they're doing a second Ratchet a generation these days? Or do you think they just do the one Ratch again per generation. I think I asked you just the last time, how do you feeling about it? Now? I think we get one back half of the get in Maybe I think it's just like, yeah, me too. I thought I thought if the part was great, I guess my favorite fag game. Yeah, you just you just wonder like you don't want Insomniac to just get bogged not bogged down, but you don't want the exclusively to do licensed Marvel stuff. You want them to have their like silly fart and dick jokes, right or when one for me sort of thing. I want them to still be able to pull that off. And I think I think we probably do that. We should pour water on people's hopes and dreams. You're never getting another Sunset Overdrive game. Yeah, you're never getting another Sunset Over The PlayStation doesn't want to do that. Yeah, they might re release the first one if they can legally do that, but there's not going to be a Sunset Overdrive too. But yeah, maybe Spider Man DLC next year, Wolverine the following year, Ratchet again, and then Spider they've talked about. Brian Anahar has been all over the shop talking about how Spider Man's a trilogy. So maybe you close out of the gym with Spider Man three like you keep that going, so we'll see. I could I could see that, dude. If the Spider Man DLC, do you think they do an expand alone or do you think they just add a DLC to this one this time? I think Miles Morales so pretty damn well. So if they can, yeah, they can justify it. They stuck that on a desk and go here you fucking go, here you go. Yeah, here's a who who they keep teasing for that, the uh the blind guy Daredevil? Is that who they keep teasing. Yeah, so people think Daredevil might be the DLC because he has reference wasn't in the Bass game. Then they updated it to put it back and has been talking about been teasing it hard. Yeah. Yeah, it almost feels like a Red Harring the way he's been teasing it though, where he's like, look at this ship. Eh, he closed out a livestream, but he's like, where's Daredevil. I'm like, oh, briand or have you finished Spider Man two? I guess I have. So the way that game ends, theor to do a half game or a d C, it would have to somehow fat meds storyline of the actual game, because what happens at the end can only really be addressed by a full sequel. Yes, exactly. Yeah, so it's a weird situation. But yeah, but I mean I think that's maybe why you do like a completely new character or something along those lines. In that same John John Cena meets the Spider Man. That's the greatest thing since John Cena meets the fucking Mystery Machine Team. Scooby Scooby the mesty. You have kids? Are kids not in Scooby Doo anymore? Kids don't get a fuck about Scooby Doo. I don't show brother. I could show my children a picture of Scubert do right now and they would be like, what is that thing? Yeah? Those those live action Scooby to Them films are pretty good. I think James Gunn, Yeah, James Gunn, Yeah, that's a wild thing. Yeah, yeah, I think I like those the Yeah, but some of the kids, My kids don't even like Bluie. My kids are weirdos. They are They're dark and demented and so they austrillions. Yeah, ohay they eve don't despise them, Yeah, absolutely all right. Borderlands four and Tiny Tina's Wonderland two mentioned on LinkedIn profile. This is from Jordan Miller at VGC. Borderlands four and Tiny Tina's Wonderland two have been mentioned on a LinkedIn profile of a former Gearbox employee. Mention of the games appeared on the LinkedIn profile of former studio technical director of Lost Boys Interactive, Randall Reese. Lost Boys Interactive worked with Gearbox as a support studio on the first Tiny Tina Tiny Tina game and the other Take two properties, such as w W E two K twenty three. Borderlands three was released in September twenty nineteen, with the spinoff Tiny Tino's Wonderland releasing in twenty twenty two. In twenty twenty two, Gearbox CEO Randy Pichard said new Tiny Tina Tina's one. I can't fucking say that Tiny Tina's Wonderlands experiences were in development after the first game shattered the company's targets. Wonderlands shattered all of our target expectations, both critically and commercially. And I'm thrilled to report then, and I should do this as a magician voice to report that, in addition to the great financial rewards from this victory that will be coming our way in the coming quarters, we've established a firm beachhead man this fucking we have now clearly, we clearly now have a new franchise on our hands, with future experiences already under development at Gearbox and Roddy patchword, just gave me this USB drive to the Oh yeah, let's go just like boot it up. Let's boot it up raw without looking at it first. Right here on the string, there's a folder here that says magic. I'm just I'm not sure. Maybe it's gonna explain how he does some of those wonderful tricks of his, those holby grade trucks, those hobby grade tricks. If we're I'm very serious right now. Uh yeah, no shit, I mean the Borderlands and tiny tenas Wonderlands two, Uh seemed inevitable at a certain point because they're now they're under Embracer, and Bracer was going to green light anything that made any money ever, and these ones were like made real money, both of them do. But it's not I suppose it's maybe a little bit surprising that they have both ready to go right away, but that might makes sense at a certain degree as well. How do you feel about it? Yeah, the I think both Bartolines are still a big still a big or like Barboline four seemed like the most obvious thing in the water. I really really Bardolines two, I think is an incredible game. The humors aged tertably, but the gunplay is still good and like Barlines three was fighting piny Tina fighting also, but less so. It's just there's a lot of Take two properties and a weird malaise of the manna that they need to kind of where the fuck's this Bioshot game. I was talking to someone about this Bioshot game two years ago and they were like, yeah, I feel like they're gonna have I feel like we're getting to the point where we're probably gonna see something from it. And it was just they like, they it's weird over there because they had that that like BioShock like game that I can't even remember the name of it, that was long like long into development, that got canceled a few years ago, like right before the Game Awards and stuff like that. So like they're in a weird situation with a lot of those games over there. Yet I don't know what's going on with that BioShock game. It's like so like again a borderline four there buying if Tiny Tina made a lot of money. Cool Tiny Tina, I feel like was maybe I can't remember specifically when it came out, but I feel like it might have been caught up in the wave of everyone buying games during the pandemic. But yeah, the I wonder if both of these survive the embrace are crash. You wonder if when Embracer all goes to Hell and a handcart FM so Big Strauss's Ownik was talking he wouldn't be drawn on whether or not Take two would buy a Gearbox, but Take two would buy Gearbox, Yeah, like they would. I mean because it like, if we look like past this precedent, it would be very similar to the THHQ thing, where it's like if things didn't get sold off before the bankruptcy, these things would go to auction and take I mean take two at that point. Could not afford to let someone else get a Gearbox at that point, right, because there's too much money. Yeah, Like they're too they're too tied and entangled with that, with that stuff. So it would make sense. I wonder if, like, I bet, like the reason two K didn't buy Gearbox originally is like they probably don't love working with Randy Pittrick. And I'm just guessing and I'm maybe I'm projecting, but they're like, ah, yeah, well buy it. But Randy, you've got to sit on the side, go make your movies, but you got to sit on the sideline or something like that. And they would probably be able to make those demands at a certain point. Uh, if that's how it worked out, I'm hearing, I'm hearing. I'm hearing news the Embracer is in the process of buying Mike Manaughty so well as everyone knows he's for sale. I was thinking, Uh, I like, Mike's from a small enough town that we could probably get him famous enough that they would build a statue of him, maybe maybe before he died. And I think that would be very cool. I'm like, what can we do to make that happen? Did we just dup him in bronze as he was dying and make that the statue? I mean we definitely couldn't. Maybe should we? Absolutely? Real quick, let me help this kid. What do you need to get up? Will you let me run the show? Yeah? Yeah, run? If you're not already subscribed to VGC, a video game podcast, that's a podcast weekly from VGC. See all this news you hear on games mess morning and they mispronounce her names, are like, who is this from? It's from VGC. Go on to VGC series podcast. You'll get a lot of podcasts about Pokemon. VGC the Competitive Video Game Championship. That's not us. We have bad SEO. But yeah, VGC a video game podcast. Jeff was on a million years ago, but he's been dodging me ever since. That bastard. I'm busy that day. What day is it? What day is it? What day is it? Jeff? That day? Okay, okay, I was. I was helping her and she looks over at the computer and sees you talking, and she goes, that's a Mike Manati from the bout of Babes. I don't have one of the hats. I don't have one of the hats. Wait, let me take the glass and the glasses off. I wish I was on mute because I cracked up over there, but I had myself muted. You kidding, you got it? You're right over there. There you go. Someone on Twitter put a thing that's like last of us PS four PS five compatison photos and as me and Mike MANAUGHTI first person to do that earns fifty retweets. That's why I'll give you. Oh yeah, easy, easy, all right, kiddo, there you go. You should be able to just turn on the PlayStation now and it should just work, and I'll get you to Spider Man there in a second, all right. David Hayter hints that he has more middle Gear Solid on the way. This is from Johan mccaguard Hanson at Game Reactor. Before Jack Bauer actor Keeper Southernwood and took over the role of Snake and middle Gear Solid five the Phantom pain It was David Hayter, who was known as the voice of the iconic Superspy while you left. The series has various explanations, but one of them is that hide hit hdeo Kojimo simply wanted to attach a bigger name with the role. That's one hundred percent. He's the biggest starfucker in the world. Of course, that's what it was, despite a hater's great support among fans. Now, however, it seems that the original voice behind the Solid Snake and Big Boss may be heading back to the series. This after he posted a cryptic tweet on on on Twitter where he poses with old Snake from Middle Gear Salad for with the text had a pretty cool meeting the other day. He's been doing like promotional work for that that trilogy, the Master Collection that just came out and stuff like that. They're obviously bringing him back. Do you think they have him do like new lines for five? Oh, that would be such a kick in the deck. I would actually, I think that would be very very funny. I don't know if they actually do it, but yeah, it's nice to see David Haytor back involved with the franchise because obviously means I hell a lot to him. And there was those kind of Marque Meddle years, so it was like it was like fuck it, the Fresh Prince. It was like, why you don't want me? Man? Like that kind of stuff. But yeah, I think we wait and see. Maybe one of these remakes they do ends up being more expanded and they have to like recording their lines for it. I don't know. I think just getting him on side is a good step. I still can't believe. And maybe Dijama's too prideful to do this, and maybe Kanami's too prideful to do this. I by the time we get through all these remakes that are in development from Ogier, one of them has Kajima's like blessing on it, Like they just they wheel them out on stage, and maybe like Sony or Microsoft puts money into this or something like that, but it's like he's not doing any work on it, but it is produced at his executives, produced once again by the O Kajima, while Kajima's off making like a hyper realistic eight K Timothy shala Man. Yeah, yeah, I think that is on the grand scale of time of the video game industry. I think everyone always comes back. Yeah, everyone always comes back. If it happens in wrestling where people are like legitimately murdering each other and yet everyone eventually goes back and works for Vince McMahon it's like it's gonna happen in the games industry, which is just wrestling diet wrestling at a certain point. So yeah, I mean, I think Kojima eventually will forgive, especially if enough money is involved, and uh forgive, he will accept the check and then I do exactly what you said. Now. I don't think it'll happen with this one. I go happen down the line a little bit. If that one's good, bet, if that one's like well received and seems pretty respectful. I feel like the Kajima is the bright heart of video games. You know, it can come across a bit better, but if things work out, he'll go back and protect the legacy. Yep. The last thing Kajima wants it's for Konami to make a canonical metalgear sex that he has nothing to do with. YEA that will really fuck come off. So we'll see. Uh. Speaking of the man himself, Hideo Kojima and Timothy Shallomey the collaboration we didn't know we needed. This is Malex Hopley at Game Reactordeo. Kajima is a pretty popular guy. He's linked up with plenty of big name celebrities, including Norman Ritas, Lea Sodu, Margaret Quality, Ellie Fanning, and more. Also all name all the names I just listened to either appear in Death Stranding or said to him appear in the sequel. So a lot of the time when people see Kojima Kochama leaking up with celebs, it seems like there's business to be had. Most recently the video game I'll Turn met up with Timothy Shallomey the Dune Part two start. Might have a lot on his plate right now, but he still had time for a visit to coach of the studios coaching my productions. Excuse me, do you think what movie do you think Hideo just watched that made him want to have Timothy Shalloon be innes? It was probably doing right. He got a preview of Wonka and it was like, I need to get to get him and there, and I think this ends up being, you know, in the first Death Stranding, like there was some celebs and it, but they didn't voice themselves. They were just like the people you went in to PA. So yeah, yeah, Edgar right, people like that. I bet you this is a that here thing, because I know someone who did like a documentary and Jus Studios, and it was like every time he gets one of these people and he scanned them because it makes like no time at all. So he adds them to his collection of humans. Yeah, very much, And so yeah I can see this. We know Tenz Shalom is like a gamer. He used to have a YouTube channel where he reviewed Xbox controller and he would he would paint custom Xbox controllers. Yes, I think I did a story on that on this show. Yeah, so I think that it makes total sense. That's not that saysn't Kama just dragging in has like his favorite boy of the week. He was probably like Tempsey Shalome was probably probably hate to go there. Oh yeah, I mean this is this is coach of his favorite boy of the week. But it's that's not all it is. Yes, yeah, so I pointed this out on Twitter. I think if Cojima is still involved in the Matle Gear movie, Chalomy for riding would be perfect. He's get little bet ch energy, so I think he'd be the I would love that. That would rule our wolves. Assays Giant Bob should buy a scanner and start collecting at TGA. Don't give jan ideas, all right? He won one million percent. Want to do that. Don't give jan ideas, don't give him more work to do. You can just scan Mike Manotti and change the accent for me. That's like a feede right there. It's perfect. You've heard his pack impression. He's he could do it himself, all right, let's see here. EESRB listing reveals Konami is looking to bring back Felix the Cat came for Switch, This is her mind, Nintendo News. The Entertainment Software Ratings Board is a great source for unannounced games, and the latest game which has been rated is The Felix the Cat. The game is set to land on Nintendo Switch and other platforms and has been given an E rating by the US Rating Board. The Felix the Cat game originally launched on Nintendo Entertainment System and was developed by Hudson Soft and published by Konami. Uh there's a summary here. But there's a bunch of Felix the Cat games. This could be a collection. Hey, I I remember playing these games back then and being like, man, the Depression was a fucked up time. They had some really wack cartoon characters, but hey, they were fine. It was Konamia Hudson working together. It was pretty good. How do you feel about all this Felix the Cat is I'm gonna put in a list of things that I know absolutely that call about tell me and three sentences. What kind of game as any good? Will anyone care? Uh? Most people won't care. They're okay games and they're they're they're like they're platforms. From what I remember is this bubbzy g it's like proto bubbzy Felix cat is. You know, there's like garth Field and then like Heathcliff, and then like Felix was below Heathcliff in a certain way. So yeah, yeah, I used to like cartoonist, only knew how to drew a couple of draw a couple of things back then. So yes, that's we just kept getting all these cats, okay. At someone points out that there was a rapper known as Felix the Cat. I used to have a cat cold Felix because I don't know if this is in the US, but there was a cat foods brand called Felix where they have a little Maggie cat black and white. So very unimaginative seven year old me named the cat Felix and he loved to be about three hundred years old. So I'll wesh every good fortune through the Felix the cat heads out there. My first cat was named Slimer from the Ghost Pusiders. Yeah, all right, last story here, and this is more like, hey, hey, everyone go read this how Black Myth Wukong developer's history of sexism is complicating its journey to the West. Adaptation from Rebecca Valentine and Key Hoogton at IgM and this she'll acclaim. Okay, actually, I kind of just broke down a bunch of stuff here trying to like make this like a version. Really, what this is is a really good breakdown of this studio getting built up in a big way based on the virility of the original reveal for Myth Wukong, Black Myth Wukong, and then the sort of a lot of criticisms coming out of the developer because they speak in at least some of the people at the studio speaking a very crude way, often about women. And for me, Jordan, I'm always in a position of like it's tough for me over here in the United States to criticize developers in other countries where their culture is different, while we still have people in our culture that behave this way or worse. So what I'm very thankful about this story is and this just shows the hard work of hitting the pavement that Rebecca Valentine and Kihu Chan did, of speaking to women in China who voice their own criticisms, and there's a lot of this in that story, and I'm just like deeply appreciative of that work, a really good story that breaks that stuff down. I don't think it's some like thing where it's like this game can never recover from this, But I'm like, at the same moment, very glad that this criticism is happening, because I always feel like a little bit like, oh man, this this game feels like it's coming from a place of a lot of talent, but maybe their sensibilities are a little bit behind where I would prefer my creatives to come from. Like a lot of these other the people that I follow all my life, they've been through the Ringer and have learned how to treat people, or at least have learned how not to treat people, and this feels like maybe that those lessons haven't been learned here. But again, who am I to say, well, you know what, these women in China, they're the ones to say and they are saying it, and it's been a nice thing to read. Did you get a chance to look into this? And I just I just saw it pop pop as I was kind of bom reb as our friend. She's one of the very best of us. So I'm really interested to look at this. People need to stop conflating reporting like this as like a takedown all of the game itself or a preemptive review, and that stuff is important. Where your games get made math or who makes them math, and that's this is doubt the kind of thing about I'm so glad that IGN's paying company as putting money into though they're they're willing to let people like grabbing, people like go and do this stuff. And so yeah, as a as an obsolute recommendation, yeah, brilliant, brilliant stuff. Yeah, I agree. And it's like, I mean, the power of an apology goes a long way. So it's like, oh, I mean, all they got to do is just connot say we're sorry, we learned, and really that will do undo a lot of the damage. It's not a permanent fix. You have to actually be better in the long run. But saying you're sorry really does work. And it's like, this is an opportunity for this company and the people there to do that and see if they're cable at or if they double down, and we'll see, we'll see what they do. But I know what I prefer, and I know the kind of people that refuse to apologize for like making like just kind of crass jokes and then be like, oh, I was this just an al bundi joke? God, It's like, oh, just say you're sorry, Homy, and people would be much better off with with you. And it's like, no, you refuse to We know what you are. So yeah, we'll see how this goes down. Looking forward to seeing more reporting from this as well. And you missed the most important story of the day. Jef o'h hit me with it Returnals director is leaving. How smart? Oh that's right, Yeah, that's I did see that. Meant to include that. Yeah, what was his name? Paddy Krueger? Hardy Krueger is a lovely, lovely man and he directed the very best game on the PlayStation five, So happy happy trails to him. Pound for I've said this on Twitter between Housemark and remedy pound for pound, population for population, Finland is the greatest country on Earth for developers. It's maybe land size. It is the same as Japan, but there's one hundred and twenty five million people in Japan and there's like five people in Finland. And and they all worked at Rovio and then left and I think it was Finland. I can't keep track of it anymore. And then started their own studios, and yeah, they're doing pretty good work over there. I am very curious about like where how I mean this. I always say that people leave these companies because there's a lot of opportunity to start your own studios. I'll be interested to see what that looks like for Harry Krueger, who almost certainly will not be leaving the game industry permanently. But oh no, definitely no. If he can, he can go and do his own VC stuff. A see very very quickly. I thought the best game on PS five was Teelu Park two. It's not on PS five yet, it will be soon. Jordan Medler undefeated. Thank you all right? I got a pollhole from Friday. Would Taylor Swift have enjoyed playing GoldenEye with Travis Kelcey, yes or no, I'm gonna say no. Said no and forty said yes. That was two thousand votes there, So shout outs to the uh all the idiots out there willing to go along with me on these stupid polls. Did you see that that Travis kelce was like, oh, halo gaealo, but the real people played gold and I Travis Kelcey is on a profession, but it takes a lot of hats to the head. And that's all I'll say on that matter. Are yout Are you swifty? I'm not, but I'm also not a juggle, though I try to stay independent. I'm a I'm a huge swifty. I think Taylor Swift is absolutely fantastic being a swifty before this TikTok generation. You know what sick individual turned me on to Taylor Swift. I'm going to say Greg Miller correigt Im going to I'll give you a clue. He's seven foot ten, he is he has the wingspan of a golden egle, and he just yeah, that sounds right. But yeah, the I think they're nice together. Look, I spent a lot of my time on the Galer subreddit, which, like the ongoing I don't want to say conspiracy theory because that is a bit of a pejorative. The ongoing theory that Taylor Swift is a bisexual woman and that she previously had relationships with women and she's not coming out because of the media, et cetera. And they do not like Travis kelse over there. Oh really, I've talked to some Swifties and they seem like, oh no, we're very happy with our new dad, Travis kelcey. But those that I do not believe that they are frequenting the the r slash galer. Is that what you said? Yeah, okay, I mean that's a I'm glad the internet's out there, still doing its thing in a kind of a beautiful way. You guys, you guys, Yeah, they take care of yourselves. Now, all right, don't go too wild with that stuff, all right, Newpole question, are you going to update the Last of Us? Part two? For ten dollars? We'll talk about that on Giant Bomb on Wednesday. We should have a show. Who knows, we'll figure it out. It's a short week because of American Thanksgiving. While we figured that out, Jordan, what do you have going on? Where can people find you all that good stuff. Oh, what the hell is going on this week? I'll ask you that. I'll ask you this question and do an answer if you're all our towns. Are you playing the Apatar yet, because we're not. No, I'm not playing kind of. I guess that's coming out soon. What the fuck? Oh, holy crap, that's coming out soon. They're not going to send that out before Thanksgiving, I don't think. Yeah, it's like that. They would have to answer emails and stuff and they're just not going to do that over here in the colonies, So there are no Thanksgiving. Like, I'm wondering what's going on with that, because look, it was a dog shit game, but the last Barcry we had a lot of time with it, So we'll see what happens there. VGC podcast on Thursday, a whole lot of Oh something's happening tomorrow that I went to see last week at two pm UK time, come to VGC and we'll have a nice, very a preview that is going to very limited amounts of people. Great, I've thought it was six baby, let's go pretty much. Yeah, not much, man, just trying to chill ax, relax out, cool, hang about with my PlayStation portal, the world, the greatest handheld device, better than the switch. Some may say, also, sorry, well I've got this platform. Tie and crack. On Twitter yesterday a lot of people went crazy because I responded to a friend saying that I'd heard that, and the Last of Us at Part two is not the only thing going on at Naughty Dog. Of course, it's not the only thing going on a dog that saysn't news. Yeah, you can get a fucking life. Okay. People were very nice about it. People were very excited. But one person told me this, relax, if it was news, it would be on VGC. God bless you heard it from him. Everybody, get those rocks out of your head. God, damn it, all right, think for once, use your noggin. Jordan, thank you so much for hanging out today with me talking about video games. I mean, I really appreciate it, of course, brother, thank you all for hanging out. We're gonna go figure out what's going on this week. I honestly don't know. I kind of I want to play some more Allen Wake two. It's not there's not a lot of time to fit that in, but I think ideally I will least have one session of Alan Wake two today or either this week, either today maybe Wednesday, we'll see. We will have a BombCast tomorrow. I kind of want to like started like a Thanksgiving tradition for BCR, but I don't know if we're gonna have time to record that. Like I just I just can't commit other people to do and stuff yet, and really I don't know when we'd fit it in. So look out for some stuff this week, but we'll be back in full force next week. I hope everyone in America has a nice Thanksgiving. Everyone else everywhere, you know, be unthankful, folks. I don't care until next time, have a good one, take care of yourself and goodbye, bye bye
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