The Woods Came Alive: A Missouri Hunter’s Terrifying Encounters | What Stalks the Mark Twain Forest?

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In this episode, I interview Randy, a lifelong outdoorsman whose encounters with Sasquatch, Dogman, and the unknown stretch across five decades. His story begins in the 1970s in Van Buren, Missouri — an area known for deep wilderness and historic Bigfoot sightings. While hunting, Randy heard a massive wood knock and an echoing roar that would mark the beginning of a lifetime of strange experiences.

Over the years, Randy found enormous tracks, witnessed huge figures moving silently through the forest, and encountered vocalisations that terrified both wildlife and seasoned hunters. His journey takes us from Missouri’s Mark Twain National Forest to the St. Francis River, through Pike County’s MOMO territory, and eventually into the mysterious forests of Lincoln County, Mississippi.

From telepathic warnings while sitting in his truck before daylight… to gigantic wolf-like creatures standing upright in the Arkansas woods… to woven tree structures, rock circles, and signs of something intelligent living off the land…

Randy’s encounters tie together generations of family stories, local legends, and firsthand experiences that suggest something ancient still walks the forests of the Midwest and Deep South.

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<v Speaker 1>In this episode of Sasquatch Theory, I'm joined by Randy,
<v Speaker 1>a man whose encounter stretch across decades and multiple states.
<v Speaker 1>His story begins in the nineteen seventies while hunting near
<v Speaker 1>Van Buren, Missouri, in the Mark Twain National Forest. One morning,
<v Speaker 1>Randy heard a powerful woodknock, followed by a roar that
<v Speaker 1>echoed through the timber. A year later, he found a
<v Speaker 1>massive track in the same area and saw a large
<v Speaker 1>figure moving through the thickets, leaving him with questions that
<v Speaker 1>have never faded. As Randy moved from Missouri to Mississippi
<v Speaker 1>over the years, the encounters followed him. Strange vocalizations, spook wildlife,
<v Speaker 1>missing food, and rocks being left on his vehicle. In
<v Speaker 1>Bowling Green, Missouri, right in Momo Territory, he witnessed a
<v Speaker 1>massive creature on all fours cross a hayfield and crouch
<v Speaker 1>behind a hay bill, watching him with intent. Later, he
<v Speaker 1>experienced an overwhelming and oppressive presence that delivered a chilling
<v Speaker 1>message in his mind, You're not welcome here. You're going
<v Speaker 1>to die. Randy's encounters even connected back to his own family.
<v Speaker 1>His father, before passing, revealed that he once saw a
<v Speaker 1>huge wolf like creature near the Saint Francis River, a
<v Speaker 1>beast that stood upright and watched him with intelligence. Tonight,
<v Speaker 1>Randy shares a lifetime of encounters involving Sasquatch, dog Man,
<v Speaker 1>the Momo, and the unsettling structures and signs left behind
<v Speaker 1>in the deep woods. These stories don't just describe sightings,
<v Speaker 1>they reveal patterns that stretch across generations. Settle in and
<v Speaker 1>join us as we dive into Randy's extraordinary journey into
<v Speaker 1>the unknown. Like the video and subscribe to the channel.
<v Speaker 1>And if you have your own bigfoot encounter you would
<v Speaker 1>like to share with me, feel free to reach out
<v Speaker 1>some time at sat Squatch Theory at outlook dot com.
<v Speaker 1>With all that being said, let's dive straight into Randy's
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot encounters here on Sasquatch Theory. All right, Randy, welcome
<v Speaker 1>to Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today?
<v Speaker 2>I am doing very well and hope you're doing the same.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I am doing excellent. It's an absolute pleasure to
<v Speaker 1>have you on the show today, Randy. If you would
<v Speaker 1>tell me a little bit about yourself, where your experiences
<v Speaker 1>took place at and if you can guide me through
<v Speaker 1>each encounter one after another.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I've kind of been collecting all these thoughts
<v Speaker 2>together over a period of probably forty some years. And
<v Speaker 2>you know, I grew up in the the the era
<v Speaker 2>of Bigfoot coming to Fruish, and I guess you might
<v Speaker 2>say my experience starts with the Patterson Gimlin film, which
<v Speaker 2>actually a documentary, came to my town somewhere around nineteen
<v Speaker 2>sixty eight sixty nine, and I saw that and I thought, man,
<v Speaker 2>this is something else. You know, I'm a guy from
<v Speaker 2>southeast Missouri, farmland and all of this, and all of
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, it looks like the world has something bigger
<v Speaker 2>than what I ever imagined. It was really funny because
<v Speaker 2>I told my dad about it. He said, you know what,
<v Speaker 2>there's some things out there that we don't understand. That
<v Speaker 2>really kind of got me rolling. But then you know,
<v Speaker 2>you have influences of predominant thought and that you know,
<v Speaker 2>everything that I heard was against the existence of Bigfoot
<v Speaker 2>or sasquatch. So that is where the beginning was. To
<v Speaker 2>zip ahead a little bit. I lived in farming country.
<v Speaker 2>Everything in the Missouri boot hills flat trees are not abundant,
<v Speaker 2>and I was not a deer hunter until some friends
<v Speaker 2>of mine said, come on deer hunting with us. We
<v Speaker 2>hunt around Van Buren and mark Twain Forrest, and why
<v Speaker 2>don't you come with us? And so I got everything
<v Speaker 2>together and we hunted west of Van Buren and near
<v Speaker 2>the Eastwood Community community, and it was pretty exciting for me.
<v Speaker 2>I was in the big woods and all these things.
<v Speaker 2>There were tree stands that people had built. Nobody wanted
<v Speaker 2>to claim them because they were illegal, so it was
<v Speaker 2>kind of like a first come, first serve if you
<v Speaker 2>found one. So I picked out one that had been
<v Speaker 2>constructed fairly recently, and it was overlooking a pond that
<v Speaker 2>the Forest Service had built. They built a number of
<v Speaker 2>ponds back in the early seventies. This would have been
<v Speaker 2>probably somewhere around seventy two to seventy three. And I
<v Speaker 2>got up in the stand and immediately I heard a knock.
<v Speaker 2>I thought, who's going to be out here chopping wood?
<v Speaker 2>You know? And then I heard another one and a
<v Speaker 2>couple of others, and it seemed like they were in
<v Speaker 2>different places, and I thought, okay, somebody's shopping with So
<v Speaker 2>the longer I sat there, the more I began to
<v Speaker 2>wonder if I was going to see anything that day.
<v Speaker 2>Then I was kind of startled by something. It sounded
<v Speaker 2>like somebody was yelling off in the distance, and I thought, well,
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there are all that many people around here.
<v Speaker 2>In fact, there was only one little patch of of
<v Speaker 2>private land and belonged to the Partney family, and they
<v Speaker 2>had everything really signed off and you know, not trust
<v Speaker 2>asking and all this, so we knew not to shoot
<v Speaker 2>in that direction or whatever. Anyway, this was in the
<v Speaker 2>opposite direction and I heard heard it off in the
<v Speaker 2>distance and it was like a kind of sound, and
<v Speaker 2>I thought, well, this is this is kind of crazy.
<v Speaker 2>But that was my first experience. The next year, I
<v Speaker 2>picked out the same tree stand and got in it.
<v Speaker 2>And when I was scouting that year, I looked around
<v Speaker 2>the pond as I always did. There was some odd tracks.
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was like like large feet that had
<v Speaker 2>buried up in the mud. It was a real wet year,
<v Speaker 2>and there were some deer tracks. But there were these
<v Speaker 2>these tracks, and it was really odd because I looked
<v Speaker 2>where the the mud was really stirred up, and I
<v Speaker 2>saw what appeared to be like somebody had stuck a
<v Speaker 2>rack deer rack in the mud. There were these holes
<v Speaker 2>account of there were ten. I thought, well, if that's
<v Speaker 2>a ten point, but what deer falls down that way?
<v Speaker 2>And looking back on it, I think it was a
<v Speaker 2>man or or someone or something that had actually gone
<v Speaker 2>down with hands into the mud. So later on during
<v Speaker 2>deer season, I was there and I saw movement off
<v Speaker 2>to the across the pond, which was in an area
<v Speaker 2>where the ground really drops off, and I saw what
<v Speaker 2>I thought was a hunter moving through a thicket, right
<v Speaker 2>right at the edge of a thicket, and it appeared
<v Speaker 2>like he had a head down on like what we
<v Speaker 2>would use in bow season. Well, uh, he was. He
<v Speaker 2>was moving, And I thought, this guy, this guy doesn't
<v Speaker 2>move at all when he walks, and I'll see him
<v Speaker 2>when he comes out because the logging road that I
<v Speaker 2>was on this it got really thick in that area,
<v Speaker 2>and so he would have to come out to the road.
<v Speaker 2>Well he never did, and so I let that pass.
<v Speaker 2>And uh, I asked the guys later, I said, any
<v Speaker 2>of you guys down where I was, Oh, no, we
<v Speaker 2>want to stay away from You don't want to get
<v Speaker 2>in the way. Well, you know, you you file those
<v Speaker 2>things away and you don't think about what everybody says
<v Speaker 2>doesn't exist. So as as time goes along, I moved
<v Speaker 2>from Dunklin County up to Wayne County, which is the
<v Speaker 2>Greenville area Peedmont area, and being an avid hunter, that
<v Speaker 2>was just right for me. The Saint Francis River was
<v Speaker 2>it is a ten minute walk behind my house, and
<v Speaker 2>you know, as one of those things that there was
<v Speaker 2>a shoal there. I could cross the river because the
<v Speaker 2>river is pretty narrow in that area, and I could
<v Speaker 2>walk across in the shoal with boots on and hot
<v Speaker 2>on the other side and such as that. Uh. Not
<v Speaker 2>far from where I crossed, there was a huge tree
<v Speaker 2>down and this thing was it was close to four
<v Speaker 2>feet in diameter, and I thought, what a natural deer
<v Speaker 2>deer stand and I was able to get up on it,
<v Speaker 2>walked over and sat down, and the sun was starting
<v Speaker 2>to come up, and got a I got a really
<v Speaker 2>eerie feeling, kind of like the little kid in the
<v Speaker 2>dark feels like somebody's behind him. And I sat there
<v Speaker 2>for a while and didn't see anything, and I thought,
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's just really time to get out of here.
<v Speaker 2>So I went on and found another place to hunt.
<v Speaker 2>But uh, it was I think it was probably One
<v Speaker 2>season later, I went into that same area and I
<v Speaker 2>found a place when I was scouting to sit on
<v Speaker 2>an outcropping of rocks, and so I picked that out
<v Speaker 2>for for the opening morning. Well, as I sat there,
<v Speaker 2>the sun was coming up and I didn't realize it,
<v Speaker 2>but there were turkeys that had roosted all in a
<v Speaker 2>tree behind me. And turkeys are really funny because when
<v Speaker 2>they start waking up, they they they're kind of like
<v Speaker 2>little gooney birds up there. But I was sitting there
<v Speaker 2>and I kept looking over my shoulder and I thought, well,
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to be able to watch for a
<v Speaker 2>deer for looking at these crazy turkeys. And then all
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden I heard something and I thought, that's
<v Speaker 2>not really a turkey sound, and I heard turkey do that,
<v Speaker 2>but it it was in behind me and in the
<v Speaker 2>direction of the turkeys, but it was it was kind
<v Speaker 2>of a bloop bloop, and the turkeys were not coming
<v Speaker 2>off the roost and it was time for him to
<v Speaker 2>be flying down, but they were sticking right where they were,
<v Speaker 2>And that the sun got up, it was pretty bright,
<v Speaker 2>it was good daylight, and they were not flying down
<v Speaker 2>from the roost. Then it suddenly they all took off
<v Speaker 2>flu over my head across the river into a field
<v Speaker 2>across the way. So later on I asked a buddy
<v Speaker 2>of mine up there, I said, have you ever heard
<v Speaker 2>a turkey make of bloops out? No? And he looked
<v Speaker 2>at me, like, what's wrong with you? But and still
<v Speaker 2>I'm operating in this framework. Okay, everything is what we see,
<v Speaker 2>and if we don't see Bigfoot, bigfoot doesn't exist and
<v Speaker 2>all of this. So anyway, we keep going there. And
<v Speaker 2>then another guy who worked in an agricultural line pit.
<v Speaker 2>I saw him probably about a year later. He said,
<v Speaker 2>you know, we got bears in this area. He had
<v Speaker 2>some little polaroid pictures and I've never seen a bear track,
<v Speaker 2>and he said, here, look at this, And so when
<v Speaker 2>I looked at it, I said, oh, these there are
<v Speaker 2>some pretty big tracks. He had tracks that appeared to
<v Speaker 2>be a hindfoot, and he had a twelve inch ruler
<v Speaker 2>laying on the inside. It probably would have been about
<v Speaker 2>fourteen inches. And then he said, I got some front
<v Speaker 2>feet here too, and front foot tracks. And so I
<v Speaker 2>looked at that and I said where were these? He said,
<v Speaker 2>wether beside the other. I said, this bear must be drunk.
<v Speaker 2>He's walking sideways and he said, well, he said, where
<v Speaker 2>these were, there weren't any others behind them. Where these were,
<v Speaker 2>there weren't any others in front of them. And I said, well,
<v Speaker 2>it looks like two walking on their hind legs together.
<v Speaker 2>And so you know, here we are again. We have
<v Speaker 2>things that are put in front of us, and every
<v Speaker 2>teaching and all of the influences are that these things
<v Speaker 2>are just phenomenon and Sasquatch does not exist. And so
<v Speaker 2>you know, I just kept going along and in writing
<v Speaker 2>all these things off and explaining them away. Then we
<v Speaker 2>zip into the eighties. I moved again to Bowling Green,
<v Speaker 2>Missouri in Pike County, and it was that was like
<v Speaker 2>a totally different area. We had different people talking about
<v Speaker 2>Momo and the Missouri Monster, and you know, I want
<v Speaker 2>to talk to some people. They said, wow, that's just
<v Speaker 2>a stunt, because they have Momo Days in Louisiana, Missouri,
<v Speaker 2>which is about ten miles from Bowling Green, and that's
<v Speaker 2>just a way to have special sales and all of
<v Speaker 2>this stuff and make a little more money. And so
<v Speaker 2>they were throwing that out there. Then there were some
<v Speaker 2>old salts from around there who who said, well, you know,
<v Speaker 2>you never know one. I said, I think I saw
<v Speaker 2>Momo one time. You know, I thought, okay, okay, But
<v Speaker 2>it was another one of those things I just kind
<v Speaker 2>of stuck in the file in the back of my mind.
<v Speaker 2>And I was working as a family counselor in that area,
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I always referred to the thing, Hey,
<v Speaker 2>I've got a master's degree. I'm not one of those
<v Speaker 2>people who who thinks they see things and all of this,
<v Speaker 2>I just I just counted it all as as myth
<v Speaker 2>and let it go. I I guess, you know, really
<v Speaker 2>you get into the habit of denying reality. And I
<v Speaker 2>was counseling people, trying to get them to accept reality
<v Speaker 2>and see reality for what it was. And still I
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to do the same thing. So I was
<v Speaker 2>a deer hunter in those days. I hunted in Renniker
<v Speaker 2>Wildlife Area and then my neighbor Alan said, Hey, my
<v Speaker 2>uncle has one hundred and twenty acres. You want to
<v Speaker 2>want to hunt in there? He said, that's where I hunt,
<v Speaker 2>and I said, sure, I was going to be there
<v Speaker 2>about totally. It would be about four years. So I
<v Speaker 2>hunted most of that time there, and Alan and I
<v Speaker 2>tried not to hunt at the same time because it
<v Speaker 2>was a little close to hunt and shoot. So anyway,
<v Speaker 2>he he had full permission for me to be there.
<v Speaker 2>And there was one large hayfield. There was some draws
<v Speaker 2>and saddles in the area. It was one part was
<v Speaker 2>really hilly. There was a little pond there, but there
<v Speaker 2>was a lot of thick growth around the backside of
<v Speaker 2>the property. Plus there was a thicket where we drove
<v Speaker 2>in and parked. There was an old abandoned house there,
<v Speaker 2>and there was a cut bank that we had to
<v Speaker 2>go down to be able to walk through the thicket.
<v Speaker 2>And so there was thicket on both sides and we
<v Speaker 2>could go down then't make a turn, and there was
<v Speaker 2>a tree stand that was built back there. The hayfield
<v Speaker 2>was probably about sixty seventy yards from that tree stand,
<v Speaker 2>and the deer liked to come up and be shielded
<v Speaker 2>by the thicket, and they passed where the tree stand was.
<v Speaker 2>And so I think it was the second year I
<v Speaker 2>hunted in there. I had gotten out to the tree
<v Speaker 2>stand and there was a long line of rolled haybials
<v Speaker 2>and everybody's I'm sure I've seen them out on the fields.
<v Speaker 2>They're about five feet tall. They lay on their side,
<v Speaker 2>and so these were all lined up so it could
<v Speaker 2>be loaded whenever they were needed. And I saw a
<v Speaker 2>movement in the thick growth on the other side of
<v Speaker 2>the hayfield, and so as I I watched it, it
<v Speaker 2>still wasn't really light, and I could tell it was.
<v Speaker 2>It was something on all fours, and so as I
<v Speaker 2>watched it, it came up behind the haybils and turned
<v Speaker 2>and I could see just the top of its back,
<v Speaker 2>and I thought, you know, hey, this isn't a deer.
<v Speaker 2>This is more elk size or something like that. And
<v Speaker 2>so it moved along until it got to the end
<v Speaker 2>bail stopped and it was like it crouched down behind
<v Speaker 2>the veil, and I sat there and I wanted to
<v Speaker 2>see what this was, if it was going to pass
<v Speaker 2>from behind the haybil well, I watched and suddenly here
<v Speaker 2>came what I perceived to be ahead, looking out, and
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was like the nose of an elk
<v Speaker 2>sized animal or something that was the It poked its
<v Speaker 2>head out, no antlers, and I thought, well, that's really
<v Speaker 2>really kind of crazy. Then it drew it back in
<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, just probably a couple of
<v Speaker 2>feet below that it poked out again, and I thought, wow,
<v Speaker 2>this is this is kind of crazy. And then as
<v Speaker 2>it drew it back again, I didn't see it anymore.
<v Speaker 2>So I just continued to sit there. I didn't see
<v Speaker 2>any deer, no activity at all anywhere. So here we go.
<v Speaker 2>That goes in the file in the back of my mind,
<v Speaker 2>and it it was really a puzzle. But the hunting
<v Speaker 2>day was over and I went back several times, never
<v Speaker 2>saw it again, and I always wanted to see what
<v Speaker 2>that was that was on the other side of the haybills. Well,
<v Speaker 2>never again. So it was my practice whenever I was
<v Speaker 2>going hunting there in the mornings, I'd usually get up
<v Speaker 2>about three point thirty get everything going because it was
<v Speaker 2>a fair drive from my house and I wanted to
<v Speaker 2>get there before the sun came out. So I'd just
<v Speaker 2>fry a couple of eggs, make a sandwiches, and that
<v Speaker 2>was my breakfast in my break time, and I'd usually
<v Speaker 2>hunt till one o'clock, two o'clock something like that. Well,
<v Speaker 2>generally I had a little bit of a sandwich left,
<v Speaker 2>i'd just pitch it out out the window of the
<v Speaker 2>car and then i'd get everything together and go back
<v Speaker 2>and hunt. I bowl hunted, and I also gun hunted.
<v Speaker 2>So I was there from the first of October to
<v Speaker 2>the end of the year, at least a couple of
<v Speaker 2>times a week. Well, when i'd come back to the car,
<v Speaker 2>most of the time that little bit of sandwich would
<v Speaker 2>be gone. So I thought that was you know, I
<v Speaker 2>was feeding the raccoon community pretty well. One day I
<v Speaker 2>came back from hunting and I'd stayed a little longer.
<v Speaker 2>It was probably two thirty three o'clock, and I noticed
<v Speaker 2>that it was gone, and I saw something on the
<v Speaker 2>fender or hood of my car. I drove a little
<v Speaker 2>pent old wagon, so it was it was kind of
<v Speaker 2>obscure in the in that brush. And I walked over
<v Speaker 2>and here was a rock up on the hood of
<v Speaker 2>my car. And I picked it up and looked at it.
<v Speaker 2>It was a chirt or flint, but it was white,
<v Speaker 2>and it had some jasper red jasper veins in it.
<v Speaker 2>There was a cute rock. Alan must be out here,
<v Speaker 2>and he just let me know that he's here. So
<v Speaker 2>I stuck it in my pocket and it was probably
<v Speaker 2>three and a half four inches in diameter flat. And
<v Speaker 2>if you know what shirt, how shirt is it chips
<v Speaker 2>up and that's what they made arrowheads out of a
<v Speaker 2>lot in Missouri. In fact, I think there's a shirt
<v Speaker 2>variety that's the state rock of Missouri. But anyway, asked,
<v Speaker 2>I got my pocket, got in the car and went home,
<v Speaker 2>set it up on a shelf. And I saw Alan
<v Speaker 2>in a couple of days. I say, hey, what you
<v Speaker 2>don't put a rock on my car? You know, Kidnam?
<v Speaker 2>And he said, I don't put a rock on your car.
<v Speaker 2>He said, I haven't been in your backyard. I said, no,
<v Speaker 2>this is out at your uncle's place. He said I
<v Speaker 2>hadn't been out there in two weeks. And I said, okay.
<v Speaker 2>So I kept the rock. I've lost it in these
<v Speaker 2>forty years since then. But anyway, I you know, these
<v Speaker 2>things come and they go, and that goes in the
<v Speaker 2>file in my brain and we have all of this
<v Speaker 2>that plays out. So anyway, along as we go along,
<v Speaker 2>and I think this was probably the next bow season
<v Speaker 2>that I went back to that hunting spot, just like
<v Speaker 2>I'd been doing. And I got there way before daylight,
<v Speaker 2>and I thought, well, I'll sit in the car for
<v Speaker 2>just a little bit, and all of a sudden, I
<v Speaker 2>got this horrible sense of foreboding, and I mean it
<v Speaker 2>was a very oppressive feeling. And and suddenly and the
<v Speaker 2>hair standing up on my arms right now because it
<v Speaker 2>was a voice in my mind. And I've called it
<v Speaker 2>an intuitive conversation. I hear people talk about mind speak,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure this is very much the same thing.
<v Speaker 2>But it says you're not welcome here, and I thought, okay,
<v Speaker 2>this is going over the line here. And then almost
<v Speaker 2>immediately is you need to leave now? Or it said
<v Speaker 2>leave now? And I thought, you know, if I leave,
<v Speaker 2>I'm never gonna hunt again. This has drawing the line
<v Speaker 2>and I've got to stay here. And then it a
<v Speaker 2>few seconds it says you need to go, and I said,
<v Speaker 2>now I'm a little on the stubborn side. And then
<v Speaker 2>and it was the expression of what was in my
<v Speaker 2>mind changed with each one of these things that got stronger.
<v Speaker 2>And then after a pause, it was so impressive, saying
<v Speaker 2>you're going to die. And I said, if I don't
<v Speaker 2>get out of this car, I'm never going to have
<v Speaker 2>the guts to hunt again. So I got out. I
<v Speaker 2>opened the hatch of the little station wagon, I took
<v Speaker 2>the bowl out, set it on top, and I don't
<v Speaker 2>know if I'm sure that you experienced the same kind
<v Speaker 2>of thing when someone stands behind you and you don't
<v Speaker 2>see them, but you just know they're there. This was
<v Speaker 2>like it was almost touching. And you know, you talk
<v Speaker 2>about your old crap moment, here's an old crap moment.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I had the strength to run, so
<v Speaker 2>I thought, well, I'm just going to go ahead. I
<v Speaker 2>reached up, closed the hatch and put my hand on
<v Speaker 2>my bow. It wheeled around. Nothing was there. It was,
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was just that strong, I believe oppressive feeling.
<v Speaker 2>But I thought, okay, maybe this is over. So I
<v Speaker 2>turned around started the walk down the little little clearing road.
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't even a gravel road. It is just a
<v Speaker 2>dirt road. I went down through that cut bank and
<v Speaker 2>it was like the thicket on my left came alive.
<v Speaker 2>I've never experienced anything like. It was just as though
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's you take the old movies where the
<v Speaker 2>hands are re out of the darkness. You know, it's
<v Speaker 2>such a thing. It wasn't that, but it was that
<v Speaker 2>simkom of feeling. And I got about halfway down and
<v Speaker 2>my feet wanted to turn around and go the other way,
<v Speaker 2>but I walked on. I gritted my teeth and I said, Lord,
<v Speaker 2>if you've ever walked by me, you need to be
<v Speaker 2>walking by me right now. I got down to the bottom, turned,
<v Speaker 2>went to the tree stand, climbed up in the tree stand,
<v Speaker 2>and all of that stopped. It was like there was
<v Speaker 2>it was no more opposition. That I sat there and
<v Speaker 2>I said, this has got to be some kind of
<v Speaker 2>demonic thing. And I was still denying the fact because
<v Speaker 2>I'd never heard anything about mind speaking. I'd never heard
<v Speaker 2>of all of the things that we hear today. This
<v Speaker 2>is nineteen eighty three, eighty four, So it was everything
<v Speaker 2>was just full of ignorance. I guess you might say
<v Speaker 2>in those days, Momo was a hairy guy, you know,
<v Speaker 2>that appeared in people's yards, and that's all that anybody
<v Speaker 2>ever said. So anyway, that was the last time I
<v Speaker 2>still hunted. I never saw anything else. I never experienced anything.
<v Speaker 2>And there was deer movement after that, But it was
<v Speaker 2>so funny anytime there was any of this other going on,
<v Speaker 2>I never saw a deer all day long. Well, if
<v Speaker 2>we go from that time to one of my moves
<v Speaker 2>after that was to the state of Mississippi, and I
<v Speaker 2>moved into Lincoln County, Mississippi. It's really funny. In Missouri,
<v Speaker 2>there's Pike County in Lincoln County Highway sixty one from
<v Speaker 2>Saint Louis, and there in Mississippi there's also Pike in
<v Speaker 2>Lincoln County that had joined. I moved to Lincoln County
<v Speaker 2>this time, and as almost immediately I started hearing people
<v Speaker 2>talking about animal mutilation that had been going on. Started
<v Speaker 2>with goats and moved into calves and such as that. Uh,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I thought, well, that sounds like the occult maybe,
<v Speaker 2>or or some kind of cults that are uh trying
<v Speaker 2>to gear up whatever. And so I continued to be
<v Speaker 2>a counselor and uh worked some with the state of Mississippi.
<v Speaker 2>And so as we went along in that regard, I
<v Speaker 2>started to feel a little more comfortable with doing some
<v Speaker 2>deer hunting there and such as that, and became acquainted
<v Speaker 2>with another guy named Alan, and Alan and I hunted
<v Speaker 2>together quite a bit. Well. We he he had told
<v Speaker 2>me of an area that bordered on the Homuchhead of
<v Speaker 2>National Forest, which would have and Lincoln and Pike County,
<v Speaker 2>and so we had to cross private land to get
<v Speaker 2>to this area, and he got all the permission for that.
<v Speaker 2>We had across one place where I lived, and this
<v Speaker 2>guy had twelve kids, and so we had to make
<v Speaker 2>friends with all the kids when we went in and
<v Speaker 2>all of that. But with twelve kids, he had a
<v Speaker 2>lot of toys strewing around in the yard such as that.
<v Speaker 2>So we began to pick out places to hunt such
<v Speaker 2>as that. So anyway, Alan called me one day and
<v Speaker 2>he said, I went out yesterday and he said, there's
<v Speaker 2>the weirdest thing. He said, it's on the hillside. And
<v Speaker 2>next time you go out. He told me how to
<v Speaker 2>get there through the woods, and he said, next time,
<v Speaker 2>take a look at that. You said, I think we've
<v Speaker 2>got some homeless people maybe that are living in there. Something.
<v Speaker 2>So I went in a couple of days and I
<v Speaker 2>walked up there, and you have to remember, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I'm still not a believer. I'm not putting two to
<v Speaker 2>two together like most human beings. I just kind of
<v Speaker 2>kept everything going, and all of these things are happenstances.
<v Speaker 2>I was a victim of I guess drinking the kool
<v Speaker 2>aid of down or something. So I go in there
<v Speaker 2>and I'm looking around looking for deer signs such as this,
<v Speaker 2>and I walked up on the hillside that he was
<v Speaker 2>talking about. When I got there, it was really odd
<v Speaker 2>because here was what appeared to be almost a perfect
<v Speaker 2>circle on the side of this hill, rocks and poles
<v Speaker 2>that were not cut, they were broken, that were leaning
<v Speaker 2>up in like a tepee shape, and there was some
<v Speaker 2>brush on top. But they weren't around the entire circle.
<v Speaker 2>It was like a half or maybe a little more.
<v Speaker 2>And some had been knocked down they were laying on
<v Speaker 2>the ground and such as that, but there was enough
<v Speaker 2>still standing that I could see how they were put together.
<v Speaker 2>They were stacked against a tree in the center, and
<v Speaker 2>there was like a part of a little tree or
<v Speaker 2>a limb or something that was stuck in the fork,
<v Speaker 2>and they were leaned against it. And I thought, well,
<v Speaker 2>somebody just builtimate clubhouse. I think is what it is,
<v Speaker 2>because there were no signs of any cooking or anything
<v Speaker 2>like that. But what I was seeing was that the
<v Speaker 2>poles were arranged on the north side and downhill into
<v Speaker 2>this really would would have probably been the south west
<v Speaker 2>uh was built open UH. And so I walked up,
<v Speaker 2>went inside that circle and began to look around, and
<v Speaker 2>here here were rocks UH and trinkets I would say, uh,
<v Speaker 2>and even a couple of the the toys that could
<v Speaker 2>have come from the fellow's yard who had all the kids.
<v Speaker 2>And I thought, well, there's somebody that's uh that's either
<v Speaker 2>from that house playing or uh, somebody maybe has just
<v Speaker 2>stolen something or put it in there. But I saw
<v Speaker 2>cans with coverful labels, uh, just like probably two or
<v Speaker 2>three of them. But these were arranged around where the
<v Speaker 2>rocks were. And so I told Alan, I said, I
<v Speaker 2>looked at that. That weird. He said yeah. And I
<v Speaker 2>also noticed that there were trees, small trees that were broken.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I said anything about it, but when
<v Speaker 2>I was in mark Twain Forrest near Van Buren, I
<v Speaker 2>saw trees that were broken. I'm six feet tall, and
<v Speaker 2>they were at least had high where the brakes were,
<v Speaker 2>and they were up you know, anywhere from two to
<v Speaker 2>four inches in diameter, I guess. And these it was
<v Speaker 2>the same way there in Mississippi, and it was like
<v Speaker 2>they they didn't have any regular pattern to them that
<v Speaker 2>I could see. But that it seems like as as
<v Speaker 2>time went along, there was more and more evidence that
<v Speaker 2>was being thrown in my direction, and I just wouldn't
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't pulling things together on it. So anyway, I
<v Speaker 2>had a young guy who had lost his dad, and
<v Speaker 2>I used to take him hunting and fishing and such
<v Speaker 2>as that. And we went into the Homa Chita forest
<v Speaker 2>and somebody had put up a tree stand. So I
<v Speaker 2>got out of the truck and Jamie said, I'm going
<v Speaker 2>to go over here to the right. He said it's
<v Speaker 2>kind of easy walk, and I said, okay, I'm going
<v Speaker 2>to get in the old tree stand down here, and
<v Speaker 2>so I went down. I got in the tree stand
<v Speaker 2>and the squirrels were all over and they were making
<v Speaker 2>noise and all kinds of things. And I thought, well,
<v Speaker 2>you're going to hide my noise from the deer, or
<v Speaker 2>it's going to keep the deer stirred up and they're
<v Speaker 2>not going to come around. But I was bound and
<v Speaker 2>determined to stay until it was almost dark and then
<v Speaker 2>go back to the truck. I knew Jamie'd be coming
<v Speaker 2>back to the truck too. So anyway, it came to that,
<v Speaker 2>and as it was really starting to get dark or
<v Speaker 2>get the sun was going down, I saw a movement
<v Speaker 2>in the This was a pretty flat area and there
<v Speaker 2>was a thicket, probably again about seventy yards from where
<v Speaker 2>I was, and I saw someone walking in the thicket
<v Speaker 2>and I thought, well, Jamie, what are you doing in there?
<v Speaker 2>And instead of walking on the outside, at the outside
<v Speaker 2>of the ticket, this guy was walking probably five six
<v Speaker 2>feet inside the ticket. And I looked and there were
<v Speaker 2>a couple of distinctive things. I thought, he's got the
<v Speaker 2>strangest hat on I ever saw for a hunter. And
<v Speaker 2>then I thought of the guy that I saw. They
<v Speaker 2>had the head net on, and I thought, well, maybe
<v Speaker 2>that's what it is. But the other thing was to
<v Speaker 2>be walking through a thicket, his head and shoulders weren't
<v Speaker 2>really moving. It was almost like that part of his
<v Speaker 2>body was just gliding along. He went up and turned
<v Speaker 2>before he got to the road and went on, and
<v Speaker 2>I thought, well, if that's Jamie, how did he get there?
<v Speaker 2>And why is he walking away from the truck because
<v Speaker 2>the truck was straight up from where I was, So anyway,
<v Speaker 2>I got down from the stand and I thought, well,
<v Speaker 2>maybe I better go in case he's getting lost. And
<v Speaker 2>I got up there here stands Jamie beside the truck.
<v Speaker 2>And I said, I said, why were you doing down
<v Speaker 2>by my stand? He said, I've been off the other side,
<v Speaker 2>he said, I didn't move it on. Well, we got
<v Speaker 2>in the truck and drove out the gravel road and
<v Speaker 2>there was no vehicle. Until we got to the main road,
<v Speaker 2>we saw nothing, and here we go with another puzzle.
<v Speaker 2>And it's you know, it's just one of those things
<v Speaker 2>that you think, how in the world, How in the
<v Speaker 2>world am I going to fit this in? But anyway,
<v Speaker 2>looking back on all of my life, I think that
<v Speaker 2>there were realities there that were presented to me, and
<v Speaker 2>the fact that I was following a mindset I did
<v Speaker 2>not recognize them. I was talking to my wife yesterday
<v Speaker 2>about when I was a little guy, we'd have dinner
<v Speaker 2>with my grandparents, who they just lived around the corner,
<v Speaker 2>and my grandpa and my dad was sitt on the
<v Speaker 2>front porch and talk about all sorts of things from
<v Speaker 2>the past. And I was a little guy, and a
<v Speaker 2>little guy run around barefoot, and I knew not to
<v Speaker 2>get out in the yard because somebody invariably had thrown
<v Speaker 2>a cigarette out there somewhere and I was going to
<v Speaker 2>step on it, and I didn't want that. So I
<v Speaker 2>just sat there and listened to him, didn't say very much,
<v Speaker 2>and my grandpa was talking about different things when he
<v Speaker 2>was a boy in Arkansas. From where that porch was
<v Speaker 2>to Arkansas, it was only about thirteen fourteen miles and
<v Speaker 2>he grew up in Nimon's, Arkansas, was born and grew
<v Speaker 2>into an older boy there, and it's right on where
<v Speaker 2>it was, was right on the Saint Francis River, and
<v Speaker 2>he talked about different things. He and my grandma were
<v Speaker 2>always funny. I'd say, well, I'm going to go here there, Well,
<v Speaker 2>don't let the boogers get you. If you're getting in
<v Speaker 2>the woods, I don't let the boogers get you. And
<v Speaker 2>I always wrote that off. As you know, they were
<v Speaker 2>all My grandma also said, don't tell a lie of
<v Speaker 2>the boogerman will get you. And so I'm thinking the
<v Speaker 2>boogerman that's what she was talking about. And so anyway,
<v Speaker 2>my grandpa said, uh, you know, there's boogers down there,
<v Speaker 2>and obviously they're looking at him. My dad said, you know,
<v Speaker 2>you just never know what's out there. And so my
<v Speaker 2>grandpa was talking about bull snakes. Well, that's the same
<v Speaker 2>thing as a gopher snake, I found out. And they're
<v Speaker 2>they're kind of crazy snakes. They act like rattlesnakes. They
<v Speaker 2>shake their tail and they hiss and all that. But
<v Speaker 2>he said, we used to hear something and people tell us,
<v Speaker 2>ask your those oh bull snakes, said they bella like
<v Speaker 2>a bull. And so it made me want to find
<v Speaker 2>out about bull snakes. So I found out that bull
<v Speaker 2>snakes don't bellow like a bull. And so now since
<v Speaker 2>I have some knowledge about uh, the realities of of
<v Speaker 2>what's really in the woods, I wonder if they weren't
<v Speaker 2>experiencing some some cryptid uh vocalizations in those days. And
<v Speaker 2>so uh he also uh. They moved into Missouri, which
<v Speaker 2>was still along the uh Saint Francis River, and he
<v Speaker 2>grew into manhood, living in the bottoms there out from Campbell, Missouri. Well, uh,
<v Speaker 2>he had a uh an experience, he said, Uh, he said,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I saw, but he said, he
<v Speaker 2>said it was the biggest wolf I ever saw. And
<v Speaker 2>he began to tell us about it, and he said,
<v Speaker 2>you know, we'd still hear the hear the old bull snakes,
<v Speaker 2>and he said, I never knew if that was connected
<v Speaker 2>or what. Well, my grandpa he liked to embellish some things.
<v Speaker 2>I thought, well, okay, maybe this is one of his
<v Speaker 2>times he's making the story more interesting, and so his
<v Speaker 2>time with a log. Yet I'd ask him some different things.
<v Speaker 2>And his mother was a Quawpau full blooded Quawpaw Indian,
<v Speaker 2>and he said, my mama told me about a lot
<v Speaker 2>of stuff. And he said, if you go to the woods,
<v Speaker 2>just be careful. He said, if you if you go
<v Speaker 2>out in the woods, even squirrel hunt, and he said,
<v Speaker 2>be careful. So anyway, my you know, my head's full
<v Speaker 2>of all this stuff. And I'm struggling with it because
<v Speaker 2>I you know, since nineteen sixty seven, I've been convinced
<v Speaker 2>there's something in the northeast, but I mean in the northwest,
<v Speaker 2>but nobody's told me that it could be right where
<v Speaker 2>I live. And so anyway, time passed. We moved back
<v Speaker 2>into Missouri, and my folks were getting older, so I
<v Speaker 2>was kind of watching after them. And it would have
<v Speaker 2>been somewhere around nineteen ninety three ninety four. I got
<v Speaker 2>all this stuff in my head and it can't be
<v Speaker 2>It can't be real because people will say it's not real.
<v Speaker 2>Even my education told me that there are strong figments
<v Speaker 2>of people's imagination. But the thing I could never figure
<v Speaker 2>out is why so many people have the same imagination.
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, my dad contracted cancer. He was he was
<v Speaker 2>still doing rather well. And I went by one day
<v Speaker 2>and he said, you're going a minute and I will
<v Speaker 2>tell you something, And I said sure. My dad was
<v Speaker 2>one of the most truthful people as far as I know.
<v Speaker 2>He never told me a lie. He was a man
<v Speaker 2>of character. And he said, I want to tell you
<v Speaker 2>what happened to me one time. He said, you were
<v Speaker 2>still a baby. And in those days, we're talking early fifties. Uh,
<v Speaker 2>he was. He was quite a hunter, and he helped
<v Speaker 2>to feed his family on game that he brought in.
<v Speaker 2>And so he went to squirrel hunting, rabbit hunting something. Uh.
<v Speaker 2>Drove drove his truck down to those same bottoms out
<v Speaker 2>from Campbell on the Saint Francis River, and he said, uh,
<v Speaker 2>I walked down this field road and started into the
<v Speaker 2>woods and he said I saw something ahead of me.
<v Speaker 2>And he said it wasn't really good daylight yet, and
<v Speaker 2>he said, I just saw something and he said, I
<v Speaker 2>took a few more steps and he said it moved
<v Speaker 2>its head and he said it had a really big head.
<v Speaker 2>And he said it had ears that stood up. And
<v Speaker 2>he said, I don't know if that's a dog, or
<v Speaker 2>if I've found a wolf, or if it's cold or what. So,
<v Speaker 2>he said, he took a couple of more steps, and
<v Speaker 2>this is the thing that's burned into my memory, he said.
<v Speaker 2>And then it stood up, and the hair on my
<v Speaker 2>arms is standing up right now. And he said I
<v Speaker 2>could see its eyes. He said it had teeth, and
<v Speaker 2>he said it was almost as tall as me and
<v Speaker 2>my dad. I think six one. So, uh, he said,
<v Speaker 2>I've I stopped. He said, I started to walk backwards
<v Speaker 2>and kept He said, I kept my eyes on it
<v Speaker 2>until I got to a point that I thought, well,
<v Speaker 2>maybe it can't catch me, and so he said, I
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to run. He said, I walked as fast
<v Speaker 2>as I could and got back to the truck. He said,
<v Speaker 2>I never looked back. He said, I started the truck
<v Speaker 2>and drove home. And he said, I've never told anybody
<v Speaker 2>about this. This. You're the first person I've ever told.
<v Speaker 2>He said, I'm afraid people will tell me I'm crazy
<v Speaker 2>and believe that. And my dad was. He was a
<v Speaker 2>construction superintendent. They built hospitals and all of this. He said,
<v Speaker 2>I never wanted to be branded as somebody who's crazy.
<v Speaker 2>And I might lose my job. But after he told
<v Speaker 2>me that, I began to put together all of the
<v Speaker 2>things that had happened and just really began to wonder.
<v Speaker 2>And I thought, Man, if these things are real, I
<v Speaker 2>want to see something. I want to see something definitive.
<v Speaker 2>But still, you know the old thing of where are
<v Speaker 2>the bones? Where are the bodies? Where are all of
<v Speaker 2>these things? And I live in Florida now, and so
<v Speaker 2>I after I moved here, I began to get hold
<v Speaker 2>of some YouTube stuff and some of the stuff about Ohio,
<v Speaker 2>and some of those things just really began to make
<v Speaker 2>an impression on me. And I began to read what
<v Speaker 2>I could, and I saw that people were experiencing the
<v Speaker 2>same things I experienced all over and I begin to
<v Speaker 2>see that it most likely is a reality. It wasn't
<v Speaker 2>long ago my wife and I went to an Indian
<v Speaker 2>powwow they had. It was an inner tribal thing, and
<v Speaker 2>she had never been to one. I'd only been to
<v Speaker 2>one myself, and so we went in. And I have
<v Speaker 2>a shirt that says Bigfoot the World Hide and Seek Champion,
<v Speaker 2>and I was wearing that shirt that day and one
<v Speaker 2>fella said, Hey, what do you think about Bigfoot? I said, well,
<v Speaker 2>seemed to be some reality there. And I said, I
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure what all the forms are and everything else,
<v Speaker 2>but I said, it looks like there's something real. He said,
<v Speaker 2>he said, I think they're a Neanderthal that got caught
<v Speaker 2>up in an evolution. And I said, I'm not sure
<v Speaker 2>what you're talking about, but you know that's entirely plausible.
<v Speaker 2>Then another fellow, I mean, he wasn't twenty feet from
<v Speaker 2>where this guy was. He said, my wife and I
<v Speaker 2>we believe something. He said, I'm not sure what to believe,
<v Speaker 2>but we believe something. And so you know, the whole
<v Speaker 2>thing is is getting more and more widespread. And my
<v Speaker 2>mind's a whole lot more at peace now with putting
<v Speaker 2>together these things. And I'm talking over you know, forty years,
<v Speaker 2>forty five years of all of the things, the input
<v Speaker 2>that has come into my being, and it's just one
<v Speaker 2>of those evolving things. I guess in my mind that
<v Speaker 2>says we're a hold of something here. So anyway, that's
<v Speaker 2>that's a compressed time, Miguel of what I've experienced, and
<v Speaker 2>if you allow it, I believe that there's some reality
<v Speaker 2>that may come about. Now. My wife and I are
<v Speaker 2>looking at moving to Tennessee or Alabama one or the other,
<v Speaker 2>and this whole thing is become full circle because I've
<v Speaker 2>been doing some research into sightings and different things in
<v Speaker 2>that very area and just south of Land between the Lakes,
<v Speaker 2>and I know a lot of stuff goes on there.
<v Speaker 2>But that's that's Randy's story and he's sticking.
<v Speaker 1>To it, all right, Randy, I appreciate you so much
<v Speaker 1>for sharing your experiences and the encounters with me when
<v Speaker 1>you were hunting and Van Buren, Missouri, was this close
<v Speaker 1>to Big Tree. I don't know if you're if you're
<v Speaker 1>familiar with the area.
<v Speaker 2>Big Tree. No, I'm not familiar with that. I know
<v Speaker 2>that where I hunted was at one of the corner
<v Speaker 2>posts of the fence, which would have been the north
<v Speaker 2>west corner of Big Spring Park.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the same area Big Spring. Yeah, Big Tree
<v Speaker 1>Campground in the Ozark National Scene up riverways right there
<v Speaker 1>by the Marketlane National Forest.
<v Speaker 2>Yes. Absolutely. If you go sixty Highway west of Van Buren,
<v Speaker 2>you come to see highway and it was off sea.
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I've had people on the show in the
<v Speaker 1>past that have had encounters out there, and I mean
<v Speaker 1>it definitely looks like a squatchy area. Like you said,
<v Speaker 1>it's vast forests out there. There's been missing people reports,
<v Speaker 1>cryptid creature encounters, and strange unsolved mysteries that have been
<v Speaker 1>taking place there for many years. And the current river
<v Speaker 1>has had a long history of bigfoot reports. When you
<v Speaker 1>witness this creature walking around, did you notice any features
<v Speaker 1>on it that really stood out?
<v Speaker 2>Uh? The terrain dropped off too, you know, away from me,
<v Speaker 2>and this little pond had a had a burm around it,
<v Speaker 2>and so he was obscured by that head and shoulders
<v Speaker 2>was about all I saw. And uh, you know, the
<v Speaker 2>the thing of it is looking like a head net,
<v Speaker 2>and it was dark. The head area was dark, but
<v Speaker 2>it made it a peir conical. That's all I could
<v Speaker 2>really see. And so if you can imagine just seeing
<v Speaker 2>that much and knowing that the terrain drops off, I
<v Speaker 2>couldn't see how tall or anything else. But he I
<v Speaker 2>could see him above this berm. And he wasn't struggling
<v Speaker 2>to get along, wasn't u you know, getting caught up
<v Speaker 2>in limbs and vines and things. He moved really pretty
<v Speaker 2>smoothly and quickly. But as far as features, I really
<v Speaker 2>could see it was still, you know, fairly dark, but
<v Speaker 2>he would have been coming from a thick area going
<v Speaker 2>into an area that had been log so, you know,
<v Speaker 2>the the whole thing was And I just thought this
<v Speaker 2>is odd because he never came out he had All
<v Speaker 2>I could see was a head, no no eyes, no nose,
<v Speaker 2>no anything that I could see. And he was coming
<v Speaker 2>from a heavily forested area through this beside this thicket
<v Speaker 2>and going into a more open area. And so I
<v Speaker 2>I would take it that he had to be pretty
<v Speaker 2>large and muscular not to get caught up in the
<v Speaker 2>brush and such as that. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. And the first read flag that you had was
<v Speaker 1>it sounded like someone was chopping wood. I experienced this
<v Speaker 1>a handful of times in the past, and it just
<v Speaker 1>sounds like somebody's hacking away on a tree with a
<v Speaker 1>with an axe or like a Louisville slugger. What were
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts in those moments? You thought somebody else was
<v Speaker 1>in the woods with you?
<v Speaker 2>Right? Oh yeah, oh yeah, And I would say at
<v Speaker 2>least at least one hundred yards away from the sound
<v Speaker 2>of it. And you know, looking back, and uh, what
<v Speaker 2>I have heard in recordings as far as wood knocks.
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what it sounded like. But the only reference
<v Speaker 2>point I had was somebody's chopping wood and why are
<v Speaker 2>they doing it at four point thirty in the morning,
<v Speaker 2>you know?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely. And the vocalization that you heard. Can you
<v Speaker 1>compare it to any known animal or anything that you've
<v Speaker 1>ever heard before?
<v Speaker 2>No, you know, the thing of it is, it was
<v Speaker 2>like a roar when you go to the zoo and
<v Speaker 2>you hear a lion on the other side of the
<v Speaker 2>zoo cutloose with a roar, maybe something like that, but
<v Speaker 2>nothing that I nothing I really could put my finger
<v Speaker 2>on as being just closely similar.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the vocalization echo through the forest. You definitely know.
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't any new animal that should be there right
<v Speaker 1>right right.
<v Speaker 2>See, that's not the first. That was the first that
<v Speaker 2>I had heard, but it's not the only thing I've
<v Speaker 2>heard around Van Buren. It just came to mind. We
<v Speaker 2>were camping at the Watercress campground on Current River and
<v Speaker 2>it's within the city limits of Van Buren, and my
<v Speaker 2>son and I were sitting at a campfire there and
<v Speaker 2>upstream I don't know how far there. We were sitting together.
<v Speaker 2>Everything was quiet at all of a sudden, I hear
<v Speaker 2>this same kind of sound and it went on for Uh,
<v Speaker 2>you don't I'm going to guess ten seconds. I mean
<v Speaker 2>it just I didn't think it was going to stop.
<v Speaker 2>And it started low and got loud and higher pitched
<v Speaker 2>and then tapered off. And I thought, my goodness. And
<v Speaker 2>I looked at Matt and he's looking at me, and
<v Speaker 2>he said, I think he was about eleven. He said,
<v Speaker 2>what was that? Dad? I said, I think that's somebody
<v Speaker 2>that just had way too much to drink and got
<v Speaker 2>too much time on your hands. And I and looking back,
<v Speaker 2>and how in the world would somebody have that kind
<v Speaker 2>of lung capacity. It has to be something vastly different
<v Speaker 2>than what we have reference to. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And that's not too far away from where you
<v Speaker 1>encountered this thing. When you were hunting a year later
<v Speaker 1>you found tracks in the area, And did do they
<v Speaker 1>resemble like bigfoot tracks that you've seen before, like on
<v Speaker 1>TV or on the internet?
<v Speaker 2>It? Uh, well, it was like they were trampled. It's
<v Speaker 2>like something got mired in the mud and such as that.
<v Speaker 2>But I could tell that the spacing, like from front
<v Speaker 2>to back, seemed to be long. It was there was
<v Speaker 2>nothing distinct in that it was just like holes. And
<v Speaker 2>if you've ever walked in gumbo, you know you when
<v Speaker 2>you take a step, it doesn't make us you print.
<v Speaker 2>It's just a hole and you're lucky to keep your
<v Speaker 2>boot on. Uh. And that's the way this looked, that
<v Speaker 2>something had really been mired up. I didn't see anything
<v Speaker 2>distinctive as far as toes or or instead or the
<v Speaker 2>arch or anything like that. Heel.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And what were your thoughts in that moment when
<v Speaker 1>you witnessed this huge creature walking through the woods. Did
<v Speaker 1>you did you feel afraid? Did you want to get
<v Speaker 1>out there out of there? Or did you think maybe
<v Speaker 1>it was just one of your friends.
<v Speaker 2>I just thought it was another hunter. And you know,
<v Speaker 2>when something happens like that so much much of the
<v Speaker 2>time you don't really think about it, and then later
<v Speaker 2>on you think about it. Where was this guy going?
<v Speaker 2>He was going into the thickest part of the forest
<v Speaker 2>in that area, and if he didn't come out to
<v Speaker 2>the to the road. And so the more I thought
<v Speaker 2>about it, the more I thought it was like less
<v Speaker 2>of a hunter and more something you know that I
<v Speaker 2>couldn't explain. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And when you were watching the turkeys that were
<v Speaker 1>flocked up in the tree by Greenville, Missouri, off the
<v Speaker 1>Saint Francis River. It seems like these turkeys knew exactly
<v Speaker 1>what was vocalizing, and perhaps the sasquatch had been taking
<v Speaker 1>turkey out of those flocks for food.
<v Speaker 2>That's what I thought, because usually turkeys will just fly
<v Speaker 2>fly down out of the tree. But these, let's see,
<v Speaker 2>where I was sitting was twenty yards from the edge
<v Speaker 2>of the water, let's say they were They were probably
<v Speaker 2>about fifteen feet behind me in the tree, and I
<v Speaker 2>had a turkey hunted there, and I know I've seen
<v Speaker 2>them come off the rooft in that area and they
<v Speaker 2>just fly down and then kind of get their bearings
<v Speaker 2>of what they're going to do, or they'll start feeding immediately.
<v Speaker 2>And it's like they didn't want to come down, they
<v Speaker 2>weren't going to do that, and they just waited and waited,
<v Speaker 2>and finally they didn't touch down until they got i'm
<v Speaker 2>going to say thirty forty feet on the other side
<v Speaker 2>of the river. They flew in the air across there.
<v Speaker 2>So I would say that they knew what the score
<v Speaker 2>was and they had to they had to do what
<v Speaker 2>was out of the ordinary for them, So it wouldn't
<v Speaker 2>surprise me at all if the creature had gotten a
<v Speaker 2>few lunches out of those turkeys. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, They're no stranger to Bigfoot. And when you moved
<v Speaker 1>to Pike County, Missouri, the locals were talking about the
<v Speaker 1>legendary Missouri Monster. And later on when you went hunting,
<v Speaker 1>you encountered yet again another creature that was moving through
<v Speaker 1>the thicket. And it hid behind a haybail and was
<v Speaker 1>kind of peeking out and repeating the pattern back and forth.
<v Speaker 1>Did you notice any anything that really stood out on
<v Speaker 1>that creature that said it wasn't human?
<v Speaker 2>I could tell it was not human. The thing that
<v Speaker 2>got me was, I believe from the way that I
<v Speaker 2>saw it, it was on all fours when it came
<v Speaker 2>from the thicket up to the hay bales, and if
<v Speaker 2>it were on all fours or crouched over, its back
<v Speaker 2>was more than five feet tall, you know, above the bales,
<v Speaker 2>because the bales are just right at five feet. And
<v Speaker 2>then I could not see eyes, couldn't see anything else
<v Speaker 2>but the primary feature looking back, I thought it was
<v Speaker 2>an animal with it it's snout sticking out. I think
<v Speaker 2>actually that might have been the top of its head
<v Speaker 2>because it was it was conical, you know, And I,
<v Speaker 2>of course I didn't think anything about it then. But
<v Speaker 2>with what I've seen and what people describe, I think
<v Speaker 2>that would have been at maybe maybe on all fours
<v Speaker 2>and just looking out, probably in my direction, head first,
<v Speaker 2>looking down the side of the haybial.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, a creature the size of an elk moving
<v Speaker 1>on all four is displaying odd, odd behavior is definitely
<v Speaker 1>not human. And do you remember the color of the creature?
<v Speaker 2>Dark? Very dark? Okay?
<v Speaker 1>And what do you think it was up to?
<v Speaker 2>Uh? Maybe it was as curious about me as what
<v Speaker 2>I was about it. But uh, the thing of it is,
<v Speaker 2>and and you know my habit was to take a
<v Speaker 2>break and throw some some leftover sandwich out. And maybe
<v Speaker 2>he would have been going for that the the gifting
<v Speaker 2>when I when I really began to think about that,
<v Speaker 2>I thought, evidently they liked what I was giving them,
<v Speaker 2>and they thought I was giving them something, And maybe
<v Speaker 2>that was it. Where I parked every time the car
<v Speaker 2>could be seen across that field, it wasn't obscured in
<v Speaker 2>that in that regard and in that area, So who knows?
<v Speaker 2>It could have been the treat he was looking for.
<v Speaker 2>It could have been that he knew exactly where I
<v Speaker 2>was and I was just trying to see what I
<v Speaker 2>was going to be doing. That was that was during
<v Speaker 2>gun season.
<v Speaker 1>Wow, Yeah, that's an excellent theory. And I didn't think
<v Speaker 1>of that. Maybe this creature had been around all along,
<v Speaker 1>and you were throwing out the scraps from the breakfast sandwiches,
<v Speaker 1>and when you were out there in the field was
<v Speaker 1>kind of circling, circling you to see if maybe you're
<v Speaker 1>going to throw out some food. He's like, Man, I
<v Speaker 1>know this guy, and he usually tosses us some food.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I think that's entirely possible. And you know,
<v Speaker 2>the thing of it is, why did why did this
<v Speaker 2>suddenly back up on me? You know? Okay, maybe we're
<v Speaker 2>friends at first, and all of a sudden, maybe I
<v Speaker 2>I had not come often enough for him, or maybe
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't leaving the scraps like I had before or something,
<v Speaker 2>you know, and suddenly I was unwelcome. So I think
<v Speaker 2>all of that probably fits together absolutely.
<v Speaker 1>And they left you a rock on the hood of
<v Speaker 1>your vehicle, letting you know that they've been watching you,
<v Speaker 1>and maybe that was a token of their gratitude.
<v Speaker 2>I have read a lot about the gifting, and a
<v Speaker 2>lot of times I think they are. They are doing
<v Speaker 2>some things in exchange.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so too. The Native Americans talked about
<v Speaker 1>trading with these creatures, and I don't think it was
<v Speaker 1>so much in the sense of them coming up and
<v Speaker 1>they're trading like mushrooms and dear me and the Sasquatch
<v Speaker 1>are giving them something. I think they're referring to gifting
<v Speaker 1>right right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And with the thing in Mississippi, these where the
<v Speaker 2>structure was, I think it was the same sort of
<v Speaker 2>thing because these were not ordinary rocks. I used to
<v Speaker 2>kid about it, as you know, I come from Missouri
<v Speaker 2>where we have these huge outcropping of rocks. In Mississippi,
<v Speaker 2>the biggest rock you find you can put in your pocket,
<v Speaker 2>and I found those size rocks. But they were decorative,
<v Speaker 2>you know, as opposed to just a gray rock. They
<v Speaker 2>were they were special. They might have been a fossil
<v Speaker 2>or something like that. So I think all of that
<v Speaker 2>fits together with things that may impress them.
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, absolutely. And when I was referring to the
<v Speaker 1>Native Americans gifting with them, I kind of picture in
<v Speaker 1>my mind, like when they get out of their tps
<v Speaker 1>in the morning or whenever they waked up. Whenever they
<v Speaker 1>woke up, there would be like a deer right there
<v Speaker 1>in camp. And they would perhaps leave items out in
<v Speaker 1>the woods for these things. So it wasn't like direct gifting,
<v Speaker 1>but the same activity that we experienced today. And yeah, right,
<v Speaker 1>you have the rocks in a circle that definitely lines
<v Speaker 1>up with bigfoot activity. The tree breaks, the tepee structures,
<v Speaker 1>and the voice in your head. That's terrifying. This things
<v Speaker 1>telling you to get out of the area and it's
<v Speaker 1>going to take your life. That's that's frightening. And you
<v Speaker 1>mustered up the courage to push through the forest to
<v Speaker 1>go hunting because you didn't want this to ruin the
<v Speaker 1>area for you. I can't imagine how you felt when
<v Speaker 1>you were walking through there and the dread that overcame you.
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, absolutely, any time I think about it, to
<v Speaker 2>hear him arm still stands up after all these years.
<v Speaker 2>But I I really had to talk to my to
<v Speaker 2>my feet and tell them to move. That's how how
<v Speaker 2>terrifying it was. But I I I'm not gonna let
<v Speaker 2>this overcome me. And because I at that time, I
<v Speaker 2>was looking at it as spiritual rather than material, and
<v Speaker 2>then looking back, I can see that it was very
<v Speaker 2>much material, and so it's kind of a huge reversal
<v Speaker 2>inside of my being of really how everything stacks in
<v Speaker 2>regard to these these creatures.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely, I see it as physical evidence and
<v Speaker 1>spiritual And a lot of people have talked about the
<v Speaker 1>telepathic messages that they've received from the Sasquatch, and it
<v Speaker 1>blows my mind, and it makes me wonder of their
<v Speaker 1>true origins and what they're truly capable.
<v Speaker 2>Of, right right, I I look back on it, it
<v Speaker 2>makes me wonder if are they are they capable of harm? Uh?
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's it's a fearsome thing, but if it
<v Speaker 2>wanted to kill me, it would have.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I'm sure they can. I
<v Speaker 1>mean they can rip trees out of the ground. And
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of people that have went missing. Maybe
<v Speaker 1>maybe the fact that you pushed through it, you know,
<v Speaker 1>it made them second guess themselves and they didn't want
<v Speaker 1>to mess with you. I know your dog wants to
<v Speaker 1>go outside. I can hear them whinding. But I just
<v Speaker 1>have I have one more question or one more thing
<v Speaker 1>that I want to bring up. Your father encounter to
<v Speaker 1>wear a wolf creature. He said it had plenty ears
<v Speaker 1>and it stood up. And this happened in Missouri off
<v Speaker 1>the Saint Francis River, correct, correct, Yeah, and this is
<v Speaker 1>in the Mark twenty National Forest.
<v Speaker 2>Uh No, this was Uh did you say it was
<v Speaker 2>not in it? Or it was? It was?
<v Speaker 1>Correct? Because that area is Okay.
<v Speaker 2>It was. It was near Campbell, Missouri, which is in
<v Speaker 2>Dunklin County in the boot Heel Okay, but still plus
<v Speaker 2>Market Francis in the the bottoms of the Saint Francis
<v Speaker 2>where borders Arkansas.
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Well, I've had reports off the Saint Francis River
<v Speaker 1>of bigfoot and dog man and people encountering the same thing.
<v Speaker 1>So I definitely believe your father. And yeah, the fact
<v Speaker 1>that he waited to tell you after he got cancer
<v Speaker 1>just makes it that much more believable. You can tell
<v Speaker 1>that he had been holding onto that for a long
<v Speaker 1>time and he wanted to share something really important that
<v Speaker 1>he truly experienced with.
<v Speaker 2>You, right right. He said it was when I was
<v Speaker 2>a baby, and so when he told me, oh I was,
<v Speaker 2>I was forty probably about forty five. So he had
<v Speaker 2>been hanging on to it for a long time. Oh, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Do you have anything else that you would like
<v Speaker 1>to share, anything else that you can remember, anything that
<v Speaker 1>anyone else told you.
<v Speaker 2>There's one one incident of a fellow and he he said,
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to tell you everything. This guy was
<v Speaker 2>in Bowling Green, but there's an area off of seventy
<v Speaker 2>nine Highway between seventy nine and sixty one that is
<v Speaker 2>they call it, I think it's they call it Little
<v Speaker 2>Africa or something like that, but it's really, really dense.
<v Speaker 2>He said he got up there, got lost and had
<v Speaker 2>to spend the night in the woods, and he said,
<v Speaker 2>I'll never go in there again. He said, they talk
<v Speaker 2>about Momo. He said, I think that's too good of
<v Speaker 2>a name. And he said that's all I want to
<v Speaker 2>tell you. But he said, if you ever go in there,
<v Speaker 2>I be very careful, you know. And that brought back
<v Speaker 2>my grandpa's thing of you know, watch out for the boogers.
<v Speaker 2>That was his They watch out for the boogers. They'll
<v Speaker 2>get you in the woods. And when this fellow was
<v Speaker 2>telling me, I said, oh, sound like the boogers that
<v Speaker 2>my grandpa was talking about. So anyway, he was a believer,
<v Speaker 2>and evidently he experienced something that it was really scary,
<v Speaker 2>he said, I don't I don't want to even talk
<v Speaker 2>about it, but he said, be careful in that area
<v Speaker 2>if you ever out there. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. I've also had a guy on from Pike County,
<v Speaker 1>pretty close to Troy, Missouri, and he had some serious
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot encounters that took place on his farm. So it
<v Speaker 1>can be too far away from where you had your
<v Speaker 1>experiences at right right.
<v Speaker 2>My experience was north of Highway fifty four and east
<v Speaker 2>of Highway sixty one. Yeah, okay.
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you for being very transparent with the details,
<v Speaker 1>and it really builds up a better report. A lot
<v Speaker 1>of people hold back on the details the location. Some
<v Speaker 1>people don't even want to mention the state and definitely
<v Speaker 1>not their name. So you being open with all this
<v Speaker 1>definitely helps out a lot more with people who are
<v Speaker 1>experiencing the same thing in those particular areas, and it
<v Speaker 1>helps other people open up and share their own experiences.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I'll tell you what. It's been such a long
<v Speaker 2>trick for me. If I can make it easier for
<v Speaker 2>someone to understand part of it and give some credibility,
<v Speaker 2>I want to do that.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely, And it also helps out with people
<v Speaker 1>who are trying to find answers, and it's not helping
<v Speaker 1>anyone if people aren't sharing the locations. Because people go
<v Speaker 1>and and venture in these areas, whether they're hunting, fishing,
<v Speaker 1>or camping. They take their kids there. And I feel
<v Speaker 1>like people need to know because a lot of people
<v Speaker 1>they don't think these things exist, that it's not it's
<v Speaker 1>not actually happening, but it is, and people running run
<v Speaker 1>into these things and without having prior information, it really
<v Speaker 1>flips their world.
<v Speaker 2>Upside down, right right. Yeah. And you know, when I
<v Speaker 2>started really doing some study on this, I all of
<v Speaker 2>this star to the gel together in my mind and
<v Speaker 2>I thought, hey, Sasquatch has been standing out of here
<v Speaker 2>saying here, I am here, I am here, I am
<v Speaker 2>What are you gonna believe? Oh?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, And I completely understand where you're coming from
<v Speaker 1>as far as not putting all the clues together and
<v Speaker 1>knowing exactly what it was. Back then, there wasn't that
<v Speaker 1>much information regarding the subject. And nowadays there's all these stories,
<v Speaker 1>podcast books, movies, and people are able to quickly pinpoint
<v Speaker 1>exactly what's going on. But back then, you know, it
<v Speaker 1>was hard to say what truly was happening. And I
<v Speaker 1>experienced the same thing. I had many experiences scattered throughout
<v Speaker 1>my life, and I always just thought it was mountain
<v Speaker 1>lions or homeless people out in the woods, or maybe
<v Speaker 1>like spiritual activity, like there's ghosts out there in the forest.
<v Speaker 1>But once I put a finger on what was going on,
<v Speaker 1>a light bulb clicked in my mind, and I can
<v Speaker 1>see how everything unfolded for you and where you were
<v Speaker 1>able to find clarity with the experiences that you.
<v Speaker 2>Had right right, And you know that when you when
<v Speaker 2>you hit the light bulb moment, then things really it
<v Speaker 2>seems like everything accelerates, and then you start to remember
<v Speaker 2>other things. I sat down and when before we talk
<v Speaker 2>this time and try to put together all my thoughts,
<v Speaker 2>and just driving down the road, I will think of
<v Speaker 2>something else because everything starts to fall together.
<v Speaker 1>Then oh yeah, absolutely, And it sounds like all the
<v Speaker 1>areas that you've moved to in the past just happened
<v Speaker 1>to have bigfoot activity. And I know there's Sasquatch areas
<v Speaker 1>because I've had people on the show from those particular
<v Speaker 1>spots and more America. So you just happen to bounce
<v Speaker 1>around encrypted areas unknowingly.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know. It's almost like sometimes I've looked
<v Speaker 2>at it and I think, we don't choose them, they
<v Speaker 2>choose us. Oh yeah, who's your receptive here? You know?
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know. It seems like once you begin
<v Speaker 2>to see some things, you see a lot more. Now.
<v Speaker 2>It may be that all of that's presented to everybody.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but it's almost like those experiences have
<v Speaker 2>followed me everywhere I've been.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was the exact impression that I had as
<v Speaker 1>you were telling your telling your experiences, that you were
<v Speaker 1>either marked, tagged, or chosen by these creatures. And it
<v Speaker 1>could be a spiritual thing, it could be a chemical
<v Speaker 1>that your body puts off a frequency, or they just
<v Speaker 1>like you. It's really hard to say, but I definitely
<v Speaker 1>understand where you're coming from. And I've experienced the same
<v Speaker 1>thing myself.
<v Speaker 2>Right right, Well, I was a bee keeper when I
<v Speaker 2>was still living in Missouri, and bees are uncanny in
<v Speaker 2>that one bee can map your face and they more
<v Speaker 2>or less mark you, and within a couple of days,
<v Speaker 2>every bee in the colony knows you. Now how that works,
<v Speaker 2>nobody knows, but if you're marked as a good pheromone,
<v Speaker 2>they all mark you as a good pheromone.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. I've discussed that in the past on the channel,
<v Speaker 1>that perhaps the Sasquatch have a hive mind and they're
<v Speaker 1>able to find you no matter where.
<v Speaker 2>You go, right right be And I know a lot
<v Speaker 2>of people talk about portals, and it would be an
<v Speaker 2>interesting thing if it was the same guy following your
<v Speaker 2>around two.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've thought about that myself. Maybe these things are
<v Speaker 1>utilizing portals. Did you ever experience anything strange out there
<v Speaker 1>in the woods as far as orbs, the sounds of
<v Speaker 1>like metal doors slamming shut, any weird energy anomalies.
<v Speaker 2>No, that is and I've thought about that, and I've
<v Speaker 2>thought back because I know that there are accounts where
<v Speaker 2>there was a light, there was an orb, there was
<v Speaker 2>this that that accompanied big foot activity, and no, I
<v Speaker 2>didn't have anything like that. One of my guys that
<v Speaker 2>I hunted with said that. He uh, he said, man,
<v Speaker 2>he said, they always talk about foxfire. He said, I
<v Speaker 2>think I saw that or swamp gas or something. But
<v Speaker 2>it was, uh, you know, it was just kind of
<v Speaker 2>like business as usual until I would have something that
<v Speaker 2>would come along. I'll tell you something else too. It
<v Speaker 2>just came to mind in uh near Van Buren. I
<v Speaker 2>used to hear it sounded like a cackle almost, And
<v Speaker 2>there was one of the guys I hunted with. I said,
<v Speaker 2>you hear this thing sounds like some kind of weird
<v Speaker 2>bird and he said yeah, he said, God told me
<v Speaker 2>that's a wood hen. And it sounded like a whole
<v Speaker 2>lot like a wood picker. I don't know if you've
<v Speaker 2>experienced that or not, but they have a kind of
<v Speaker 2>a cackle that they do. But this was deeper, and
<v Speaker 2>I said, well, what is a wood hen? Well, I
<v Speaker 2>don't know. Well I did research and I couldn't find
<v Speaker 2>a wood in anywhere, So I wonder if maybe that
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a vocalization.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very well could have been. And like I said before,
<v Speaker 1>the Vanburian area is a spooky area and it gives
<v Speaker 1>me the feeling that I had when I was in Alaska,
<v Speaker 1>just like so quiet. You can hear a pin drop,
<v Speaker 1>like the barometric pressure is really high, and you can
<v Speaker 1>feel all the hairs on your body standing up like
<v Speaker 1>something's watching you. Maybe it's just because it's big woods,
<v Speaker 1>but there's definitely a feeling out there. And like I said,
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people have made reports from that area
<v Speaker 1>in the past, and yeah, if I researched there, I
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't even know where to begin. It's huge, huge woods,
<v Speaker 1>and you could easily get lost.
<v Speaker 2>Right right. It's well, I have been lost, but not
<v Speaker 2>to the extent of taking more than like half a day.
<v Speaker 2>I remember getting on a trail and I thought it
<v Speaker 2>was going somewhere else and really got turned around. Didn't
<v Speaker 2>take long to get that way either, and it took
<v Speaker 2>a lot longer to find my way out. But I
<v Speaker 2>told you about the big tree that was laying down
<v Speaker 2>where the eerie feeling was. It just happened to think
<v Speaker 2>there was a cave up the ridge from that thing.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if Bigfoot lives in, you know, in
<v Speaker 2>a cave or or can stay in a cave or whatever,
<v Speaker 2>but all of that really bothered me in that it
<v Speaker 2>all fit together to be just a really spooky experience.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, that's what the guy said that I interviewed
<v Speaker 1>in the past from Van Bura, and the area that
<v Speaker 1>he was hunting at was by big Cave or Big Springs,
<v Speaker 1>and he said there was a cave up on the
<v Speaker 1>hill and like these food plots, maybe it's the same area.
<v Speaker 2>Could be, could be.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's very possible. All right, Raandy, Okay, man, no, no,
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, finish what you were going to say.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I was just gonna say. I never did experience
<v Speaker 2>the smell either of an anything it was. You know,
<v Speaker 2>if if I smelled anything like rotting flesh, I usually
<v Speaker 2>found the carcass and it would be a deer or
<v Speaker 2>something in the woods, cow wandering cow or something. But
<v Speaker 2>that's one of those things that it's kind of pleasant
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't experience that.
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, absolutely, But yeah, you did an excellent job
<v Speaker 1>at sharing your experiences here on sasquatch theory. I know
<v Speaker 1>your dog has hit the point of no return, and
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate his patience.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well i'll tell you what Clancy is quite a dog.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, he sounds like it. And hopefully we can
<v Speaker 1>meet up in the future. If you're in Missouri again,
<v Speaker 1>let me know and we will meet up and talk
<v Speaker 1>about everything.
<v Speaker 2>We usually come up on a holiday, so we'll be
<v Speaker 2>in the Saint Charles area, no doubt.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, We'll keep in touch and I look forward to
<v Speaker 1>meeting you in person. All right, man, all right, you
<v Speaker 1>take care, Okay, you thank you so much for listening
<v Speaker 1>to Sasquatch theory, and those were absolutely some incredible experiences
<v Speaker 1>and encounters. And it amazes me how people have these
<v Speaker 1>encounters throughout their life and they're just not able to
<v Speaker 1>put a finger on exactly what's going on. And back
<v Speaker 1>then there wasn't as much information about these things as
<v Speaker 1>there is today. Randy's life is a reminder that some
<v Speaker 1>people don't just have an encounter. They live with the
<v Speaker 1>unknown following them from place to place, from Missouri to Mississippi.
<v Speaker 1>Whatever these beings are, they leave signs, they leave tracks,
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes they leave warnings. If you've had an encounter
<v Speaker 1>of your own, please reach out and share your story
<v Speaker 1>with me. Your experience might help someone else understand what
<v Speaker 1>they've seen out there in the dark. Timber until the
<v Speaker 1>next time, keep your eyes open, your sense is sharp,
<v Speaker 1>and remember the woods doesn't always belong to us.

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