Tracy McGrady talks Knicks, ICONIC Rockets-Spurs comeback, toughest NBA matchup & ‘Cousins’ podcast with Vince Carter

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Speaker 1: You know practice up. He just slopping it. Boy.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm talking running it. I ain't listening to ship running it. First of all, I'm gonna be honest with you. Them shoes so fucking big. I feel like I coulda gun in my feet.

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Speaker 1: Look like.

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Speaker 2: Caliber's shoes. Look like you put the foot up of somebody else. They are in trouble. Yeah, yeah, what up? Yardist? Your boy Joe cracked the dawn.

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Speaker 3: You know what it is, your boy Jada, Mister Joe and Jada's show, every show legendary, every show iconic.

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Speaker 1: My man got the lavender ship on it. They show no but saying slow you looking like Teddy Bucks right now? You got that ship on y'all. Ain't showing a little red little Gucci shit?

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Speaker 2: Yo?

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Speaker 1: You getting money?

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Speaker 2: Man? This god damn this guy right he looked like a Huxtable right now.

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Speaker 1: You think of today's guests.

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Speaker 4: You think of one of the most gifted scorers the NBA has ever seen, right right true, seven time All Star, right, two time scoring champion off the backboard. You never seen him in college because he didn't attend college. Great father, Hall of Famer. Huh, real good person. You know what I mean, if you know him, you know him. If you don't, you want.

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Speaker 1: To know him. Ladies and gentleman makes some noise from my brother Tracy t back. But Greg one time, Nick he yo yo, oh you don't want that one. You don't want that, states yo yo yo.

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Speaker 5: Now if I was t Mac at the time with the next, yeah we could, we definitely could celebrate that. But I had, you know, transformed into Tracy. So yeah, yeah, we're going to stop talking about yea.

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Speaker 2: Why we always getting the players to transform into the They're no longer than that. We got a fucking doing that, motherfuckers did did he not? He just said he wasn't Ta Mac at the time. He was Tracy Government. That's who we be getting all the time. The government name played. We Yeah, he was one most from the Phoenix Sun. Then he come over he's Jonathan william and the Hardaway. He wasn't Penny and Fornie. We got an that's why we don't get organizational problem.

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Speaker 1: That's like something in that sounding personal. Yeah, I got.

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Speaker 4: To ask you before we even get into to the interview.

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Speaker 1: He was on this is your rockets years, the.

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Speaker 4: Amount of points you scored it a couple of seconds with the how did what was going through your mind with well, how many points was it?

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Speaker 1: And how fast was it?

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Speaker 2: Was?

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Speaker 1: Like thirteen points in like thirty five seconds? San Antonio, How did that happen?

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Speaker 5: So it's one of those things man in the league, when you get in that zone, like nobody can fuck with you when you get in that zone.

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Speaker 1: I was struggling, you know, for three quarters in that game.

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Speaker 5: Shoot him and you know we was down in the fourth quarter, and it's something just came over me, bro, you know what I mean. Like I hit a three pointer and we filed, We get the ball back and then I'm coming off.

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Speaker 1: I pump fake.

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Speaker 5: Tim Duncan got him off his feet, another three pointer and one. So once I got the n one on the second period, I was like, start, Yeah, the basket it is huge. Now, Okay, this is a question I always ask. I'm not a supreme basketball player. I love basketball, but I ever wondered if in real life.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about real life, right, does the basket ever get like so big? You see a guy I forget who somebody shot a three over the joker the other day.

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Speaker 1: He was all the way in.

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Speaker 2: There's no way that they just threw it and they just knew it.

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Speaker 5: It's muscle memory. So you know with the basket that no matter who's in front of you and how long their reach is, Like, I know what the basket is, so you can put your hand in my face and try to blind me. Now that once I got that that feeling, it's over, Like there's nothing you could do.

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Speaker 1: Cause we got a sniper here.

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Speaker 2: The other day, the basket was big, the one on the Instagram where you chopped that video of you and the league that.

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Speaker 1: Sits in the road, Like, was the basket looking big that you know when you do this professionally.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, I asked, when you're shooting. Right, when you're shooting and you make a few, you feel.

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Speaker 1: Like you get in as you get us. I ain't gonna lie always.

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Speaker 2: All God's given me a lot of blessings, but he never gave me that one miracle basketball game. Like I've been in celebrity basketball games or pick up basketball game and I pray, your God, let the ship just go in. Let me have one of them likes you Barry Jeremy Lynn games.

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Speaker 1: And you still doubt the basket.

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Speaker 2: Yet I ain't get it. So sometimes when I see this ship going in. I wonder if the guy.

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Speaker 1: Sees the basket bigger than it actually is, because some games, some guys can't miss. That's how it is.

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Speaker 2: Motherfuckers come down, shoot three nine threes in a row.

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Speaker 1: He's seeing that ship like in the NBA come down. Just so that's it.

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Speaker 5: It's just, you know, with anything, man, when you're in that fucking booth, you know what I mean, When you're in the booth and you just got that feeling over you and you start spitting out some ship, you just you get in that zone, you lock in and you know it's not you know, you nice, you know you just killed it in the booth because you man.

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Speaker 1: We gotta be careful with that right there. I love your analogy, but it's a lot of whack niggas out there that are here. But anythink they're in the zone, They're still in the zone at this CENTI zona wack shit. They're still.

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Speaker 2: Track and you're gonna keep doing this ship. You know, I always prayed to God. You know, I've been in some celebrity basketball games. I'm seeing your God. Man, let me see the basket big. It never happened for me.

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Speaker 1: Did you play baseball. I play soft.

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Speaker 2: I was a soft legend in the street to the Bronx softball softball, JJ Sabbati in the Bronx.

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Speaker 1: Strike your motherfuckers out fast Ship. Oh you played fastest. I would have struck you out. Max. I'm not I'm a base.

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Speaker 2: You would have not hit It is a good get you slip under arm ship that ship. Let's say I used to be in the club this six in the morning and pitch at seven thirty in the middle with the sun ninety degrees. I never got tired when I was young, and those shots are fucking it but speeding.

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Speaker 1: I'll strike you out.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, don't disrespect JJ Sebati, J Jason.

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Speaker 1: I mean John. I just want to know crap all.

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Speaker 5: I want to know how many times you winding up though before you really got riser.

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Speaker 1: It riser is forbid.

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Speaker 2: I get two strikes on you say inside this that I gotta place it listening. I got some ship to go like this right last minute, last minute.

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Speaker 1: That just sounded like a funre You thinking you hit this ship here, end up here, and you struck out all these guys, got struck out, all of them. I'm not about a celebrity.

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Speaker 2: You know how many guys are walking around Spanish, all of them and and and fucking the Bronx that I fucking like disrespected them in front of their families.

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Speaker 1: Firemen, all type of hostage that they came into the game with their fai. Not right now, I.

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Speaker 2: Washed up, washed up, all right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm Joseph card Crazy. Was my biggest friend. There was one.

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Speaker 2: Come sit on the side, gun in the gloves. Don't argue with pun about fat Joe. He was my biggest fan. A male soball league cole. You being disrespectful, a male so.

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Speaker 1: Co ed. He's a grown man that smacks Ship out the park. You said he's pitching the man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm pitching fast softball, but fast male softball league, male softball, grown ass man softball league.

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Speaker 1: What you're throwing like? I don't know what I was throwing.

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Speaker 2: No, I was striking everybody out and I made every All Star game, you win.

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Speaker 1: I was. I was at the little celebrity joint, little c C. Joe.

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Speaker 2: He ain't trying to throw your little curve and yeah, yeah, I was watching Ship, damn. That's why I was out distracted. He ain't see me in my prime. He ain't seen me when I was Jay Matten. You saw Joseph Atonio, Carda Gina. You didn't see I'm not. That's why he's put it. They put it. That's why he's talking ship telling player. First of all, real story is coming out, Joe. First of all, real stories coming out, Joe, Real the real stories, rich telling rich.

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Speaker 1: What's the store? Your hold on? What's this store? They used to work out when he was a kid. The mayor. Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 2: We played with the official softball in Yankee Stadium to make it excited. They were playing with corked softballs that if you hit a foul ball, that ship go up to deck.

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Speaker 1: They was playing with them green softballs. They wasn't playing with.

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Speaker 2: The white leather softball they officially your Mandit actually really didn't smack my ship.

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Speaker 1: It was a ball that was like a golf.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell you, hey, Joe, they loaded they loaded softballs. I got a question of why, niggas, I'm telling you that you better go to a softball they got green softballs.

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Speaker 1: Question, your little brother could smack that ship out the park. I just got a question, bro, I was washed up too, I was washed up. I got a question. Hey, Joe, I just got one question. He smacked this ship. These niggas hating.

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Speaker 2: Y'all had little lead baseball, Like yo, baseball all we did baseball well. But I don't know if it's just Bronx Corfu Coacha, but them Puerto Ricans in the Bronx, they played softball and they got wet.

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Speaker 1: My man weeked out so that y'all grew up playing softball.

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Speaker 2: Man, we got guys that parked that ship on top of the roof. Nigga like they don't play.

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Speaker 1: I've seen something. My team dogs on that. That's what we had. Like that, my team that they can place the balls with the elite.

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Speaker 2: I had guys who violated. They could be rough riders d block the best guy in the world. He'd be like, Yo, I'm sorry, Jada, I'm playing with Joe. Could you hit the niggas I hit every time I can control they hitting too. So if I'm batting up and I want to hit it right on right field, right on the fucking line, right stield, and I'm ready right on the side.

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Speaker 1: Every single time I fucked up one time, one time, one time, one time.

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Speaker 2: We're in the Chip Game seven, we got runners on base. Uncle Dan was supposed to bat up. Uncle Dan historically does not hit better than me. I'm on the bench. I pulled him out.

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Speaker 1: I bat up straight, never strike out, but popped out and Uncle Dan, forty years later, you want to kill me, he said, y'all. I was lucky that day.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna hit like yo, yo, forever. But I fucked that game up like I fund you know, I usually get hits that that ship fucked me up and fucked me up. I'm traumatized by that.

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Speaker 1: Big Nick. That was crazy, freaking Nick. That was crazy.

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Speaker 5: Man freat psychology and man hunh. It's just crazy that your mind can can go that way, bro to where you feel like you can't make a shot.

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Speaker 1: Are you scared to take a shot like that's that's.

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Speaker 5: A psychological thing that it was just we had that block.

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Speaker 1: Yo yo.

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Speaker 5: That's what happened to Michael or micheale. Folks, that's a real thing.

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Speaker 1: That's a sad story. What's the nice of that? Like?

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Speaker 2: So it's something yet ct CT not on what's ingel faults? Not not on this one.

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Speaker 1: Bob Simmons, what's the nigga from the next? Ben Simmons, Ben Simmons, Bob Simmon. It was his back, Bob Simmons. Now, guys, real real talk. But they never said it's this bad. Listen.

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Speaker 5: I know a lot of people shipped on Ben Simmons. Dude, could have been could have put up no, no no.

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Speaker 1: He drew Ski gotta sign and bus his back. It was his back.

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Speaker 2: It was his back and then you know his But nobody ever explained us to its just the back. They said it was like ment and then yeah, so that led.

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Speaker 1: To his led to his mentals. He used to do it before his injury. Was good before he was good, bro, he could do everything. He was Oh boy, folks, was good too, till he got mentally ah nah, man, they showed the man.

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Speaker 2: He just thought his mind. He was sad. You know, I was watching it. Whoop, what happened? I guess you want me to talk for really talking, right. I was sad for him for markel foulks, because he was he was nice and then you could tell mentally something happened to him. And I'm watching him at the game and he's just struggling and he just couldn't get.

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Speaker 1: Out of that.

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Speaker 2: Then they moved him all land up, fucked rush number one pick. He was the number one pick. That's pressure. You gotta live up to that number one pick.

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Speaker 1: Crack. So sorry, my brothers, you gotta live up to You gotta do what you gotta do, right. But it's not he played.

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Speaker 5: He played. He played the game meaning college. He didn't know he was getting drafted number one.

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Speaker 2: Fifty cents on your ass and the fucking hip hop this in you every day on World Star and this your mother's a lesbian, the disk that this this, that's fuck. The pressure your kids going to school, they threatening you can't you do the same sun throwing the basketball pressure?

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Speaker 1: Listen, what no telling you? Bro?

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Speaker 2: He should have showed up. Your man's a bus to what's his name? Rich your guy, the Russell guy.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't. He never did.

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Speaker 2: He was number one two, the football player DeAngelo Russell. He wasn't a bus number two. He's not a bus. He ain't nothing compared to what he thought he was. Let me tell you something, do me because it's a laker.

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Speaker 1: Y'all got him two times.

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Speaker 2: Ya y'all spun the block with that nigga. He's still stunk up the place. Let me tell you something. You know why I knew when he got drafted he was so cocky.

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Speaker 1: If we could go back to the cliff, James got this up.

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Speaker 2: You go draft night, that boy nephew, be careful, be careful that we gotta stay hum That man walked up in there in that draft.

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Speaker 1: He was like shit, don't stick records like he was on that ship like this with the shoe. I said, yup, he went up over there. He stuck up the plate. Joe. He never became or he was supposed to become. He had a good career. He had a solid career. No he didn't.

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Speaker 2: He played over ten years. Yeah, but whack years. Ten whack years. You don't go number two and the thing. Let me tell you something, bro, Nah, you can't base it off that. You can't base it off that they ain't drafting themselves.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he ain't good.

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Speaker 2: Nah, they're not drafting themselves. So if somebody, look, you can't put that on here.

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Speaker 1: How about the Knicks?

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Speaker 2: The Knicks drafted that nigga was so trash that guy from France, Michuel Frank mckill. I wanted to kill this nigga, Like, I was like, if I ever see this nigga, say that's the something breaking that Sid sweets. We're getting them out of all that, say lesson even see this niggas seriously.

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Speaker 1: Cleamers from Joe Danziger would have been.

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Speaker 2: A sus Ronde for one night out of be like, get the gotta go? Who was a tough Frankie man? Cow who that was the biggest bullshit? Was your man picked him to Jordan's code fail me? Phil Jason picked that nigga. What you know we do with oh ship, I'm still hey, I'm still having.

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Speaker 1: Show that they ain't one. You have no conversation. I'm overdose writing that down? What's his names? Writing that down? I was like that look from Twitch.

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Speaker 2: Because of that, Nigga Frank would count any other team that called him after us.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not he except oh my god.

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Speaker 2: It was the toughest defense guy, the toughest man.

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Speaker 1: Run run Our test was tough.

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Speaker 5: You know, six eight run run Fridge six eight strong as an ox long wings man.

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Speaker 1: Like that in the Yeah yeah, they one of the bone. They're gonna hurt you every time. It's not.

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Speaker 5: And when I say tough, like no, he's tough, It's like, I know I got a battle, Like I gotta strategize on how I hope tonight. Other niggas, you know, it's just like I'm going through my joint shake ain't nothing. I know I'm gonna get my shot off easily.

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Speaker 1: Run. It's like it's a strategy.

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Speaker 5: I can't I play against him differently than I'll play somebody else, you know what I mean, Because with him, you can't sit there and play with the ball because he's so strong. You're not really going, you know, shake him out of his shoes. It's either a fast, smooth, quick move, get your shot off me. I like to mix it up with him. I like to run him like Steph. So that was one of the dudes. I just didn't have the ball in my hands, like I could run off the screens like Steph. So I'll run him because I know he's gonna make a mistake before I do, like they always gonna make mistakes. He's gonna try to do a short cut, and I'm gonna capitalize off that every single time. So once I get a rhythm off running him off screens, and now I could get the ball, and then I got my rhythm to do whatever I want. So now it's like I'm mixing it up and he can't really just go hang in on one thing that I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: You know, let me tell you something, bag you're talking about Steph Caerry. The original Steph Kerry was Reggie Miller. I believe they invented them picks for Reggie Miller. He would turn around three play them big guys, Rich Smith, what Rick Smith's before you know he was dead alone, just squitch. Reggie Miller was a motherfucker. And I got some real, real legendary players who say he wasn't they took.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you. I can't tell you, but what I can tell you is.

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Speaker 2: Legendary players of all time was like, y'all made him famous. Well, he did the ship to y'all in New York. That's what made him in the Hall of Fame. Other than that, you see what I just told you, he's incredible.

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Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. He went head to head with Mike, But he had some battles with Mike. Did he not? Did he not? Listen? I'm not saying he he's you know, outside Mike way. Did he hold his own against Mike.

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Speaker 2: What I'm gonna say is Reggie Miller left the league three years before he should have. He was still dropping twenty points at night. He was still in great condition, he was still in great shape. I believes a Hall of Famer. I don't know, you know, the time was up, but I believe Fat Joe his opinion on sports. I think Reggie Miller is one of the greatest.

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Speaker 1: Of all time. He is. I don't know who's saying differently.

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Speaker 2: They said the nixt Ship is the only reason why the man caught that Hall of Fame because of that thirteen spike.

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Speaker 1: Still, I still, I can't look at nose every game. I look at fight in the ship and I see this. I said, you see what he did and my game winner. You see what your man was doing to us Hala Burten he beat this thing. He was doing the choke ship too for uh Indiana. That bad funck y'all.

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Speaker 2: The we needed like a fucking ronold test in the game that day to smack him or some ship and get thrown out or something.

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Speaker 1: The guy was doing this. But you know what I love about it though?

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Speaker 5: Last year, foulation your knicks they brought They brought you all back though like that, that defandom and the celebrity and every the energy.

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Speaker 1: It was crazy like that. We need that back in the guard. They made this guy go get the sweat, hey man. Last year last year for the next was amazing.

00:23:08
Speaker 2: What small bull winning put the sweat old tiles come back to see you all in it.

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00:25:16
Speaker 5: Do you think Tim's just supposed to get No, Tims should still be coaching. I like Mike Brown, like him, but TIBs. Tibbs is built for New York Knicks culture, like leading that team. Everything about him bro like strong personality, holding guys accountable, like the toughness.

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Speaker 1: You should be like this, the toughness jen Hey, Mike Brown and coach. I got respect for you, I got love for you. I know somebody gonna tell you about this niggas his snakes is foul. He got like converts on some ship then ship like that the other day. No, the other day, I'm at the game you're checking coach sneakers.

00:26:06
Speaker 2: Coach sneakers, Pie team Pie, Coach sneaks, Pie team Pop. If a nigga come up in there with the espen drills golf for bidd he wear the loafers, he come up in there with them ships, like Yo, stop all right, I'm to trust me. Okay, the sneaker has got something to do with the whole ship.

00:26:27
Speaker 1: I'm their coaching shoe broafers.

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Speaker 2: But listen, what the man that fuck no, fuck no, y'all want to get me thrown out of Madison Square card lifetop guarantee.

00:26:40
Speaker 1: Mike Man, we gotta make they got they throw this motherfucker coaching on TV like a handcuff, Like, Yo, get this nigga out of the building.

00:26:52
Speaker 5: Joe, No, listen, the new balance. Gotta make the loafers the new coaching shoe. It's a coaching sho looks good.

00:27:01
Speaker 1: Just look at the joints. Man, put the penny in there and put you already got some horrible sneakers. But let me tell you, let my last I wouldn't let my pool cleaner with Hey got the hale dollars.

00:27:16
Speaker 2: Dog can sew tomorrow camera, You take one off. Take one off, Andre Eagle, Dog with that put that nickel. Put the quarter right there, Dog.

00:27:29
Speaker 1: The official coaches shrew up the NBA right here, take quarter right here. That ship put a quarner in your ass because you played yourself. This ship here, I love it.

00:27:41
Speaker 2: Hey, nog ship is in the fucking inferno. Those right there. Well, anyway, coach got some ships. Little Lass Brown got some sneakers on every game. It's a little lass than nose got in the other day. Tell your story. We played the whack team Chicago Trash. I've never seen the trash your team, but the man came with some air max on. I stopped in the middle of hall horse head hussy Coach.

00:28:12
Speaker 1: He heard me.

00:28:12
Speaker 2: He looked at me, said, Yo, the sneakers on, Coach. We won bout forty that game. He ain't got them fucking estrajus. Send him some ship, bro, what you wanted to run?

00:28:25
Speaker 1: Send him some you know what he lives near, and me, I'm gonna find out where I'm gonna send him sneakers.

00:28:30
Speaker 2: I got to because I can't see him with them fucking them things. He look like he on the yacht. You in New York City skippies.

00:28:40
Speaker 1: Man, he looks like I ain't gonna lie.

00:28:43
Speaker 2: Them sisters new every time though. He got one hundred pass skippies. Whatever them ships he got on them ships, don't got a scuff. He got a new pair every day.

00:28:51
Speaker 5: We gotta get you on the sideline of over yell, man, you'll be You'll bring us great energy.

00:28:56
Speaker 1: Doog You gotta get him kissed wa yell. I got the one on one league. You know, I can't know.

00:29:05
Speaker 2: You know I coached the other day. Someone was there how much I beat them? Boss, I'm ninety nine and one, Like, I don't think you understand that?

00:29:13
Speaker 1: And the ruck I'm ninety nine and one, the all the game, the all the day at the Nike Jordan's ship. Was you not there, nephew? You think I ain'tn coached?

00:29:24
Speaker 5: Damn Hey, nephew, good job he tell you it was Joe cut Okay, let me tell you something.

00:29:33
Speaker 1: I'm the best coach in the world.

00:29:35
Speaker 2: I took a team in jail. That was the bad news Bears. The Niggas was jail. They was bouncing the ball like this, and I kept seeing them every Saturday out there. The niggas was getting blown out paused, and I went out there one Saturday. I said, you stand here, you stand here, and you here. When he goes, you give it, damn bounce the ball to the thing. They wind up going like eight to zero. The only reason I ain't win a chip they took me. They threw me out to jail. The next week was the chip. I took the bad news bad to a chip in jail. I cannot lose. They stopped me from coaching the NBA Celebrity All Star because I kept winning by forty or fifty. I can't lose a coach. And by the way, I did coach that game. You know what happened that game? It was halftime. First of all, the kid was threatening me. Whatever the young boy what snaps? Good guy read met his whole family?

00:30:34
Speaker 1: Ryan?

00:30:34
Speaker 2: What why he got a white boy named like that? He Porto Rican. But listen this almost like FARESI listen, the man go yoe, the man go talk wild shit right the young boy y'oll y'all you done?

00:30:52
Speaker 1: You washed up? This style?

00:30:54
Speaker 2: Like okay, I get Kareem read terror Squatterer two official. He's coaching. He put the team together.

00:31:04
Speaker 1: This is what happened.

00:31:05
Speaker 2: We went that to halftime, and this is how I coached. I said, what's the score? They was like, yo, we up twelve, us go up thirty triple to pay. Shat back down, dumb niggas winn up forty points. They played the most professional basketball you ever seen it in your life. Give it the shot, clear it out, girett. They start moving that shit around like who it's coaching. You gotta know how to what to say at the right time. Players gotta be coachable. They were playing around, throwing the disc once I told them go up thirty triple to pay. The motherfuckers made the most. They played the most professional systemics you've seen in your life.

00:31:52
Speaker 1: Here you go, clear it out. Back up.

00:31:57
Speaker 5: We got a kiss cup check right here. The owner, he might have to break you in as a coach for his obel team.

00:32:03
Speaker 1: Even I don't lose one on one though.

00:32:05
Speaker 2: This is so my one on one league, crack my one on one league. I created teams with it. It's one on one.

00:32:11
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah so he So he's the owner of the New York team. Kiss cup check. You see to shoot who you use one on one? We had a tryout. We had a whole tryout in the in the day in New York. Man, I would get a guy like May fifteen, Orlando one on one May fifteen Orando. Yeah, so I can you invite me?

00:32:36
Speaker 2: You got a plane ticket for me? Nice hotel? What's the show I got you? Look what's the nice old Joe rich Calton. So look we got we got eight We got eight teams tracked Fred the River. Listen, hey, every time I travel, we get the best hotels of that. I taught you, Yo, Waldorf, storry this this that. Let's go kiss me in the lobby. Yo stuck a right good.

00:33:04
Speaker 1: At the league. So yeah, man, I started this one on one league.

00:33:07
Speaker 5: And for me it's you know, because I got some ownership in the Buffalo Bills.

00:33:13
Speaker 1: And you know when you look around, hold on, hold on slow from the niggas in the James Cook right, James got Sure for Sure, which used to coaching the man, So I got I got some ownership in that.

00:33:27
Speaker 5: And then when you look around, you know, our major sports and look at ownership, it's not a lot of people that look like us, right, So, you know, with alternative sports growing, and it's the thing nowadays, and one on one is becoming you know, real prominent, not just here, but even abroad, like they're playing one on one in China.

00:33:48
Speaker 1: It's crazy over there.

00:33:50
Speaker 5: And I was like, yo, I want to start this league, but I want to do it differently and give ownership to to folks that look like me. So, you know, came up with the eight Cities and came up with eight guys that are influential in these eight cities. So that's why I reached out the Kiss, gave him that New York team, gave Lorenz Tate my brother Lawrenz Tate got the Chicago team, Tim Hardaway Senior got the New York the Miami team, and I got my boy John Wa Yeah man, so I got I got a great guy, yeah man, yeah yeah. And Orlando Vince got Orlando and we're just gonna build. And you know, I got some good, good people behind me. That's that's putting some money into this.

00:34:38
Speaker 1: There's a Puerto Rican gas station they cooked. You got to get you.

00:34:41
Speaker 5: We got to get you a Puerto Rico team. You got some guys in Puerto Rico there, cool, we want to go to Puerto Rico. You got some guys, know, the guy who won the Bad Bunny team there you do, we'll get him in.

00:34:56
Speaker 1: We'll go sure, they.

00:34:57
Speaker 2: Got one guy over there to go crazy, right, just get him a team. It ain't Ryan Witherspoon. That motherfucker got beat his ass lost by forty fucking with me. And the reason I ain't really coach because it was light work. I'm sitting there like, really, I'm sorry to get everybody upset, you know, because everybody was with him. That's the youth. The youth was with him, like yo, young. Some niggas were sad by half job. Everybody wear a home with a posta ledeo in the l Jesus like y'all take your.

00:35:31
Speaker 1: Telling with you and get that ship up out of here.

00:35:34
Speaker 7: You can do.

00:35:34
Speaker 1: He was a Jordan through a Puerto Rican celebration, Puerto Rican vibes, and and it was great. It was great. But you know, I can't lose. I don't lose. So what how does one on one work? Just one on one game fifteen game nine nine?

00:35:56
Speaker 5: So you got four players on your team, and you know it's it's based off of how your players do against the other cities, right, how many wins they get and how many So you got.

00:36:07
Speaker 2: Players of one players, it's four. It's four players on the team. One yes that wow, yes, fire yes. So you know your four of your guys is not gonna play the same team. So one of your guys could play a team from Chicago, one of your team, your guys play a team from Miami.

00:36:25
Speaker 1: Like that.

00:36:26
Speaker 5: It's gonna it's gonna be crazy, man. We're doing it May fifteen in Orlando, real crazy, everybody. We're flying all the boys in.

00:36:35
Speaker 1: Man.

00:36:36
Speaker 2: You know what I'm gonna do because I'm gonna get the Puerto Rico Tom I'm telling you, I'm telling you the Couerto Rico team.

00:36:45
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I talked to I was gonna get loose to the Miami team. I talked a little good. Yeah, you got a Miami team. Tim.

00:36:56
Speaker 2: You know practice up just bopping it by No, I'm talking running it. Ain't listening to ship list running it. First of all, I'm gonna be honest with you. Them shoes so fucking big. I feel like I could have done in my feace that look like caliber shoes. Look like you put the foot up and somebody else they in trouble.

00:37:19
Speaker 1: Big job. Nick came up to me the other day. You seen the guy have the spikes on the on the pants at the show. Everybody got their own swag. Everybody. You can't be mad. If we went right now to Manhattan, there's some white girls walking by swag. You know where I do it. I go to Miami. I go to Bell Harbor.

00:37:45
Speaker 2: It's some small that's really really rich. And I people watch and everybody got they swag. They could be from Texas, they could be from Memphis. They could be for sake, they they throw they ship on that it's in their hood or whatever.

00:37:56
Speaker 1: They good.

00:37:58
Speaker 2: Now, you gotta understand the guy came to the show, and I know he swagged out in his own way. I'm not even trying to disrespect. He has some leather pants on with the spikes all over there. Who's okay it, man? I said, my man, If you kick me with them fucking pants right there, niggas start laughing because Yo, it's like, man, he got he had the spikes on the ship. That's how I feel when I look at them shoes. That they the type of shit. Your mom'sn hit you anywhere in the house with them shits. She'll get your long distance with them shoes like that.

00:38:34
Speaker 1: No, what is he do.

00:38:37
Speaker 6: That?

00:38:37
Speaker 2: Nigga got the fucking peace. But the youth side sixteen uh sixteen height six nine? You the original six nine? How do you feel to be the original system? When this guy's out here? Oh, rat king of the universe?

00:38:55
Speaker 1: How's your rat king? Though? Don't you gotta be from that? We talked about this, we talk we talked about this.

00:39:03
Speaker 5: He's if you're not cut from that cloth, if you ain't come from that, you ain't grow up in that.

00:39:09
Speaker 2: You are sending people to do things. He was there telling them, shoot the place, go get the students.

00:39:17
Speaker 1: Young boy, that young boy. You think that young?

00:39:20
Speaker 2: So let me ask you something because you said twice behind the scene. So for you, you think it's acceptable for people to snitch a rat a normal person, if it's your sister, your mother, a hard working guy, somebody robbed him. I don't have a problem with them saying of supposedly gangster who built their whole empire, the whole image off of data realists. Ever, and they over here talking about this guy robbed me? This guy this, you think that's like acceptable? I answered every question. I'm asking you a question.

00:39:59
Speaker 5: If he didn't come from that, if he didn't come from that. He didn't grow up in that, and he got with a group of dudes that put a battery in there. So we're gonna push you this way to start him. That doesn't make him that. You got got, You got a machine behind you that's pushing you.

00:40:21
Speaker 1: You was never that. He was never that. I appreciate your opinion. He was never that.

00:40:31
Speaker 2: You gotta hear him out. Everybody got a perspective. Everybody got their own ship.

00:40:35
Speaker 6: Me.

00:40:36
Speaker 1: I come from a town where the wrong guy walked past your building and you hear that shit.

00:40:44
Speaker 2: Like like the Cowboy movies. Your mom's closed the window. Motherfuckers. They don't see nothing. I know see nothing. I don't you ever see that comedian and he was on the all what's the shit up?

00:40:57
Speaker 3: Uh?

00:40:59
Speaker 1: The ship?

00:40:59
Speaker 2: Russell Simons had depth jam comedy. You ever see Homeboys say I fuck with Poppy from the fourth floor because he not seeing nothing here, don't know know nothing. That's where I'm from. You don't know nothing. My father was not a gangster criminal in no way I promised you my life.

00:41:23
Speaker 1: My father or my mother.

00:41:25
Speaker 2: Wouldn't be testifying on no niggas. They'd be like, yo, we don't see nothing, we don't know nothing. We keep that ship moving. That's how I was sore.

00:41:34
Speaker 1: Brought up. Family, you everybody brought up like that. Yeah, I'll be asleep in there talking about Yo. It just came out of PC's legendary in there. Is that really a thing? Nowadays?

00:41:46
Speaker 5: We'll see what's going on around this month. Everybody telling bro, yeahbody like that, that's not new.

00:41:53
Speaker 2: And so what we got about was stay legit, guys, because this ship now, it ain't the cam work.

00:42:00
Speaker 1: It's horrible out here. It's cameras everywhere. Like I honestly, honestly, honestly believe, you can't get away with the crime in twenty twenty six. You just can't get away with a crime. Yo. Man, let me tell you something. Man.

00:42:18
Speaker 2: A little while ago on What's his name played some ship and I was like, thank god the rapping, like rap music is.

00:42:27
Speaker 1: Just who's hot now? Who's putting out good music? I think, well, you can't let me because I'm old. So I'm gonna say the old gez.

00:42:36
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that's one why I'm gonna say French Montana Max be with that joint.

00:42:42
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick dumb. That's why I want to speak on So why is it? Why is it the old niggas, bro? Why the old niggas stop rapping?

00:42:52
Speaker 6: Like?

00:42:52
Speaker 1: What is it with wha? Right? So historically, yeah, you wasn't traced. You wasn't t Mac.

00:42:59
Speaker 2: You sir Tracy McGrady, Night and soul when you played for the Knicks. So historically, historically over the years, especially before hour, I'm out to you.

00:43:14
Speaker 1: You older than me, so let me trap. You can't make a hot song right now? Right now? Have you put out one of last when.

00:43:27
Speaker 2: You put out an album like last year and then I got some missiles. Don't play with me, T Mac. I play some ship for you. You'd be like, Yo, that's it, great ship for me. And what I'm saying to you is historically in time, the most legendary of legendary of legends, the best of the best.

00:43:45
Speaker 1: They always got whack when they got older. Don't ask me why it was off feet. They sound like to the hip, to the hot they get. They just they just.

00:43:56
Speaker 2: Later though, like n times have changed, like old niggas are still hot.

00:44:01
Speaker 5: See y'all just put out some hot ship. Niggas, your old niggas can put out hot ship.

00:44:06
Speaker 1: Bro, that's who you want to hear, y'all. I want to hear you. I agree.

00:44:11
Speaker 2: When I'm trying, I can't relate to the news. No, it's not sustainable, sad because I'm about the youth. I'm about everybody winning. I'm about I feel like if a guy he's successful, he ain't got to rob your mom's at the gas love for sure.

00:44:28
Speaker 1: I feel even though they do it, they robing, they get successful. Now this ship out of control out here. Oh but it's crazy because Nah ship out uphot Dawn ship crazy out here.

00:44:42
Speaker 2: But Tea Matt, what I'm saying to you is historically the legends that used to flow like they was the greatest in the world, they try to make music when they was older and they got whacked. I don't know how now with this ever, you got Nah's putting out good music, you got Jayden putting out music, you got friends, you got TI, you got a couple of guys that's putting out.

00:45:05
Speaker 1: Great music, still consistent, great music. And so but that wasn't like that there was before our era. They don't.

00:45:13
Speaker 3: I don't think they figured it out with the age bracket yet, like hip hop.

00:45:19
Speaker 4: Is only fifty one years old, so they don't they don't know what's old. They don't know what and all of that shit is still in an uproar off how they categorizing it. And if you're too old, you're too old, and this and that.

00:45:34
Speaker 2: I know the TI just put one out the park five weeks number one. Sure, I know that French Montana and them got a number one. I think if you make right now quality music and it's a smash hit, it could go.

00:45:49
Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, it wasn't like that. Two three years ago.

00:45:52
Speaker 2: I had a guy I'm cool with a friend because I'm one of the guys that consistently still kept putting music out no matter I old. I got videos two hundred and fifty thousand dollars me. I'm independent, I paid for my own shit, so.

00:46:06
Speaker 1: Work, my radio, work, everything.

00:46:08
Speaker 2: And I had a radio guy that's a boss of bosses, who's my man for thirty years, sit me down and say we are not playing.

00:46:15
Speaker 1: Old nigga music no matter what. I don't care.

00:46:19
Speaker 2: If radio I don't care. If jay Z comes out with something, I don't care. If Nons comes out with something, I don't care. Every j Blige come out with something, we are not playing it, even if it sound like a hit, Joe, save your money, don't because you know, to get radio you got to hire a team that shit a couple one hundred thousand, what my man?

00:46:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on, hold on, don't you take ship free? To get a song on? You gotta have our team. What you mean to see to work out? You got the Cairo practer, you got the shooter, you got the disc, you got that.

00:46:55
Speaker 2: This is to make music fly, you gotta pay somebody who works the recordcause there's a million fucking records come out every week.

00:47:04
Speaker 1: On not less.

00:47:06
Speaker 2: So if I if I, if I want to put out some music and I want my ship, you are definitely not getting to play team man. Maybe on maybe stacked, maybe my nigga stacked, Jack of Play.

00:47:18
Speaker 1: Matt Bonds and them. I'm not talking about let them do.

00:47:23
Speaker 5: So if I want, if somebody wanted to put out some music and they want their ship on a Hot ninety seven, you gotta.

00:47:30
Speaker 1: High got a higher of course, what is the team hit it or Hot ninety seven? What's the bill? Don't you know it's a couple of hundred old world cut Hot ninety seven.

00:47:39
Speaker 5: So that's just one station, right, So that's what that's what I'm getting at this one station. What am I putting in to get my ship played on just one station?

00:47:47
Speaker 3: They got sy indicate they got stations that's connected to fifty stations, or I mean it's.

00:47:52
Speaker 1: It's old pay. So you're paying to get your ship distributed. So all of that need to.

00:47:58
Speaker 3: Get it at point, need to spinning on all of them stations to get to be coming.

00:48:05
Speaker 1: Let me explain a couple of couple of couple one hundred thousand. Let me say a second three yo team, Matt, listen what I'm saying.

00:48:14
Speaker 2: There's one million hip hop records that come out every week, one to millillion day.

00:48:21
Speaker 1: Every day, now one million.

00:48:24
Speaker 2: Right, The radio got twelve to sixteen songs that they play on rotation that you hit all day. You gotta hire a team to get your record, you know, to keep talking to the radio. Yo, coud you play Jada Kiss this week? Did you play Fat Joe? Give us a little something? See if it blow? You got to hire a team to do that. But in any case, my man is the boss of all bosses, the all radio.

00:48:52
Speaker 1: Look me in the.

00:48:53
Speaker 2: Faces to listen forget your old nigga music. I said, what do you mean If Mary J Blosse come out with a hit, now playing it. If jay Z comes out with a hit, we're not playing it. If nos coming, they just letting me know that Fat Jones expendable. He didn't even want to tell me me. He's like, Yo, their ship come out, we're not playing it. So be clear, Joe, you're wasting your money. Why because they got an age limit. Whoever the radio they keep.

00:49:22
Speaker 1: Trying to look after at a younger audience. They did all that bite them in asking young people.

00:49:28
Speaker 2: I think now they don't the young kids stream. So that's what I was just trying to explain it. It takes the old nigga to get in the car right now, New York. You go now and you play the radio.

00:49:38
Speaker 1: You old.

00:49:39
Speaker 2: That's like smoking a cigarette in front of the building. Yo, niggas just smoking a analytic now. This ship is like niggas got the the fate. Nigga, You smoking a cigarette now, you as they smoking with fluidity. Now, niggas ain't it and they keep it moving to the radio. You're a dinosaur. My Thoughter ain't listening.

00:50:03
Speaker 1: His son ain't listening to this fucking radio, but they want them so they like, y'all, we gotta play all the young ship this, that and now if it's a young cat, they got fluidity.

00:50:16
Speaker 2: Who got some hot ship out? I mean, I want to hear it on the radio too. I'm not gate keeping. I'm not telling you that we are. We're gonna fight.

00:50:25
Speaker 3: The music is good music. It shouldn't be We're gonna. We're gonna not just music. And some people get mad that we got a podcast. Now, I don't look at it no different than you. I don't look at it no different than Chuck and shocking them. They played the game. Joe and jadashow dot com.

00:50:49
Speaker 1: We got new first fresh off the Cressens.

00:50:53
Speaker 3: Go get it out of big going jayasshow dot com you can get little cold for t shirt widow.

00:51:04
Speaker 1: I need a ect log show, a jdshow dot com. Go there and get it. Tell us about the Cousins podcast with Jorge Van. I want to Yeah, so we man, you know cousin, I we we talked on the phone often.

00:51:34
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, y'all the first cousin it had to be other cousins in the n B A but I might be the night super. No, I don't think there's no other cousin. Give me nobody's equivalent to UNV have a.

00:51:48
Speaker 5: Cousins in it, not that I can think of, but you know, we have some cousins that are pretty good, Shae and his cousin.

00:51:55
Speaker 1: And Alexander Card and get Trason with Grady. I'm sorry, but no.

00:52:03
Speaker 5: So we we talk on the phone man often our two hours about family, about life, about the game. And the opportunity came up, you know, for the podcast. I mean we you know, we watch all the podcasts and are out here. You know, we're the biggest in the gadget, and you know, when the opportunity came, I didn't want to do it. But then when we start talking about numbers, that really that that that caught my ad.

00:52:30
Speaker 1: How do you how do you analyze numbers?

00:52:33
Speaker 3: Like?

00:52:33
Speaker 6: What?

00:52:33
Speaker 1: What? How do you see your podcast turning into money? Yeah? Monotized?

00:52:39
Speaker 5: Well, I mean that's obviously sponsorships. That the more sponsors you get, the more money you go start making. But I think for us, you know, you see a lot of you know, bullshit out here on the podcast. Motherfucker's trying to create stories and narratives and and and poking and you know, trying to grab your attention on some non authentic ship. But that's not what we want to do. Everything we want to put out is just it's real and authentic and you know, be relatable and not just trying to create a firestorm on social media. That's not that's not my thing. I'm cool on that. So and that ship is not sustainable. You're just creating and trying to make up some ship. Then you get caught at your bullshit. So it was just it was just about man, really with all the ship that I got lined up with my one on one league with ABC D, the camp that I got coming out with NBC, So it was just, you know, it's only right that I started with him personal.

00:53:38
Speaker 1: How's the new broadcasting gig with with Vince and mel Over them.

00:53:43
Speaker 5: Guys, dope dope Hall of Fame class you know Mail, Maria Cuzzo, you.

00:53:50
Speaker 1: Know for them, Yeah, Maria Taylor.

00:53:55
Speaker 5: They put a good team together, you know, Mail Mail Come, he's staying mellow, doing his thing, very articulate, funny pro knicks that's on What What What?

00:54:07
Speaker 7: NB?

00:54:08
Speaker 1: Yeah?

00:54:08
Speaker 2: See, And because then we got my guys over there at Prime. They're getting busy to derk.

00:54:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, for sure, that's cool too. I love seeing all of y'all. I like I like seeing the d ways on NBC.

00:54:22
Speaker 5: Just they got they got the new you know analysts that are spread out different you know, uh companies are doing a great job of pushing the game for it. You know before they were talking about how the old niggas was just you know, shipping on the players. I think, you know, the new regime is doing a great job. Really, I want to be the next analyst. I apply, man, NBC, We're right, we forty minutes. We let's sit when when Stanford listen in Stanford, Connecticut.

00:54:53
Speaker 2: I want a job and Stephen A. Smith was sitting right there. He said, you ain't never getting the job. He said, by the time you explain your story, the whole game will be over. Joe, motherfuckers try to see I forget.

00:55:09
Speaker 1: We told me, yo, you should have told that motherfucker go fuck himself. You could do whatever. Somebody told me.

00:55:16
Speaker 2: Somebody told somebody, analysts told me you should tell him go fuck himself.

00:55:20
Speaker 1: You could do what you want. You gotta be you gotta be quick. You gotta be quick on TV. You gotta be.

00:55:26
Speaker 2: Gotta be quick, I say, you saying like Joe by the time you start to hey, I know whom in kindergarten ship.

00:55:32
Speaker 1: Yeah no, you can't. You can't. Your shower has gotta be e clipped.

00:55:36
Speaker 2: You won't even have enough flags to show you like because they moving, they moving, They playing the game.

00:55:44
Speaker 1: Play by play like the in game play by what was it like?

00:55:47
Speaker 3: That's what he didn't tell you he was He told Stephen Ay he won will Clyde Frazier.

00:55:52
Speaker 1: You look, you don't want that, yo. Story The motherfuckers don't want ten trips. Y'all. You ain't saying a play yet on the plate.

00:56:03
Speaker 2: You gotta give me a shot. Wish I never listen. I come from nothing. I think I could ad just after one game. By the after one week, I'll.

00:56:14
Speaker 1: Be like, you know, I be going No dang that that that ain't it? Yo?

00:56:26
Speaker 5: So I had I had some crazy moments in my career. We talked about one. What is like, give me one of your like, give me your one of your best verses.

00:56:37
Speaker 1: You spiit. I'm gonna tell you his best moment in hip hop history. I already know I'm talking to you. What was it? Ship?

00:56:46
Speaker 5: When he the verses joint versus Yo, the versus joint, he took a shot at me Yo the first said, y'all God.

00:56:53
Speaker 2: Fake New York guys living by I'm looking like Miami. I had to coach Brown's sneak on like I came off the yach Niggas.

00:57:06
Speaker 1: Gote he was talking. Who was shisty? I'm up in there looking like her mad. I'm like it.

00:57:12
Speaker 2: You guys, fake New Yorkers living in Miami, come in my block. When you say kids from outside, No, that was that was fighting. That was like fire eighty one. But you a guy, Joe, how we take one?

00:57:33
Speaker 1: I believe in the verses Joe, your scoring champ asked you a question.

00:57:40
Speaker 2: Nobody thought that you was gonna have a problem, Joe, My best verse I could give.

00:57:46
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now, my best version of.

00:57:49
Speaker 2: All time was with Big l the enemy enough enough fer Rouse trying to set me up, put me in cuffs, and crush what I lost into dust. Plus they want a niggas sold, but they know, Oh big Joey Crack can never read a cat.

00:58:02
Speaker 1: Did he know for show that before the Sinner. Now.

00:58:05
Speaker 2: That one big al was my little brother digging in the craze and he threatened me. We had dn D studio with Primo did the beat and he was like, Yo, I'm gonna take all your fans. He made me right the shit in front of him and he was like, Yo, I'm going And so I take the most pride in that birth right. But I think my biggest moment ever that I ever felt like like a fake versus because he had the world in his head, was leaning back at Summer Jam. That shit was only out two days, right, and Hot ninety seven fronted on me performing there. Hot ninety seven, the our true structure home and hip hop said, Nah, you can't perform. I understand it was only two days old, little John. That's why I said it took a brother in the remix. It took a down South brother to bring your boy out.

00:58:59
Speaker 1: Little Joe. I said, I want you to do that new song two days. My lifestyle was like that in the hood too. Two days.

00:59:10
Speaker 2: And that seventy thownsand started leaning back and that's how we knew that's just got West. We got something in my life. Kanye West was performing that dare I've seen him in the back. Somebody must have told me he gonna do the lean back. He was peeking up the back like and them niggas went quick.

00:59:28
Speaker 1: Two days. The whole stadium was like we did actually did it, I think twice in the row. And it was just it was that was my moment where I was like and I needed it.

00:59:39
Speaker 2: You know, all my hits came at a time where you know, I really needed that hit. You know, financially, you're looking at my man with the spoons on man, you know, Ryan Witherspoon, you got too many. Uh they't just different meaning different feelings, different emotions.

01:00:02
Speaker 1: It's gotta be.

01:00:03
Speaker 4: It would probably be one with X or one with Big, you know what I mean. If those are the days you was able to be in the studio with them and make that's a competition. It makes you say.

01:00:17
Speaker 1: Back in the day the game, so you're actually in the studio with these and all that, all that. He was there.

01:00:23
Speaker 2: Now there, Raycn's there, He's there, everybody's there. Back in the day, it wasn't.

01:00:29
Speaker 1: No, that's separate. I think a little close.

01:00:33
Speaker 3: I think that's the separate the music or today you not. You can be in Egypt and somebody send you the files or the stems. That can never compare the being in the same.

01:00:45
Speaker 2: Stopping man, just magic you have, Like all everybody got a little input, right, So everybody's there working together better, it's gonna come out better. And I believe in great minds, you know, more than one, and so you know, at that time it was it was a great time for hip hop where everybody was working with each other. Another thing for me is I you know this guy, I don't know. You know, jay Z, Big Pun, Jady kiss Eminem. They were just gonna be rappers. There's just no way around me.

01:01:29
Speaker 1: He was born. You know. Some people were fucking carpenters. Some people are bakers something they just born with that ship.

01:01:36
Speaker 2: Me always used my way in as a street hustler and said this is the way out. I'm gonna talk some real ship and work on my ship.

01:01:44
Speaker 1: To get better. Right.

01:01:46
Speaker 2: So when I finally put like a number one out the park, I couldn't believe it. I was on my knees praying to God, like, yo, what the fuck, because it's like number.

01:01:57
Speaker 1: One was the first one? Fuck first one? What's love? And IRV God? He rest in peace? Called me. I was in Houston, Texas.

01:02:06
Speaker 2: I was at a Marriott Marquee and he woke me up and he just was like, it's blood number, it's number one.

01:02:16
Speaker 1: And I was just like what.

01:02:18
Speaker 2: And I went on my knees immediately and started praying to guard because I couldn't believe. Wow, Fat Joey from Forest Projects got a number one. Everybody singing this shit everywhere. That shit was unreal. And every time I did it, every time I had a number one and number two or top ten record, I couldn't believe it.

01:02:42
Speaker 1: I never could believe it. I was just like, Yo, this is crazy. We put one out again. We give it there.

01:02:48
Speaker 2: It's just really nothing like that. It's like you at a dunk contest or some shit. I don't know how to explain it. Here we got like here, we don't well hear him from the hood. Yeah, Miami, I'm bougie, you know what I'm saying.

01:03:03
Speaker 1: So here, we don't have moss. We got like Ford them, bro, we got one twenty fifth. We get you, bro.

01:03:10
Speaker 2: It's nothing like standing out there and you hear every single call bumping your ship, pumping your ship. And then they used to do it.

01:03:19
Speaker 1: No doubt not gonna lie.

01:03:20
Speaker 2: It was a big moment to me when I would be like if I dropped the album and I went to one twenty fifth and every call was driving by bumping that ship.

01:03:29
Speaker 1: You ever did that? No, that's that's like me, man, you never did that going going around going to other countries. Abody did that? Yeah, for sure that so that was the way to see that was that was your work for lit.

01:03:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, you go see wall ship is that you gotta go outside and see they coming by falling?

01:03:48
Speaker 1: I was your ship playing the ship, Yo, the ship is hot? That was it? No, I know that feeling.

01:03:56
Speaker 5: Man, that's that's like you know the first time I saw somebody on my shoes, on my stigmature shoe.

01:04:02
Speaker 1: That shit was dope, and I just that's all I used to look for. Man, Hey, they got the Max song. That's another moment. Let me tell you what happened to me.

01:04:12
Speaker 2: We put out the Terrace squad of Air Force, right, and I think I was in Vegas to somewhere. I had a show man. They send me pictures of the lines out the stores. I was looking at every customer's face, like the sneakers are different, like so I'm looking at every.

01:04:30
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, they fuck with us. Yo, they did for the sneaker.

01:04:34
Speaker 2: That's different putting out a sneaker and it's fucking lines down the block. I still got the pictures on my phone now. I looked at every single person. I was like, Yo, this shit is great. Why should bad house Is send me some pictures from Dubai Dubai. I ain't even into sneaker coaching like that. They had a line out that shit ten minutes. They bought them shits out in Dubai. And I was looking at every single person's face because what kind of love they gotta have to go spend one hundred something dollars on the pier sneakers. It's different for just even the music. But yeah, you know, I'll give you one thing and then we go. Oh when Big Pun died. Right the day Big Pun died, that night, Steph Marlborough used to be you know, we was family. Was with him every day and Steph said, watch the game and and so the strongest Steph was he was more of a finess player.

01:05:30
Speaker 1: He liked to shoot, he liked to lay it up, he liked to cross shot. That night he had a fast break and he did it a winden.

01:05:38
Speaker 2: Bill three sixty boom and dunk that shit And when he landed, he pointed up to the sky. And after the game I talked to him, he was like, that's for pun. You seen the dunk. It's like, Yo, Steph could looking. Man, that shit was crazy that night he did that shit. You know, those are moments.

01:05:57
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

01:05:57
Speaker 5: I gotta create those moments, man, those ones that last. It's all about those moments. That's crazy moments.

01:06:04
Speaker 1: Man.

01:06:04
Speaker 2: I'm tuning into your podcast. I don't watch a lot of podcasts because we number one. So why we're gonna watch the niggas number two and number toys number four?

01:06:14
Speaker 1: This isn't number one.

01:06:17
Speaker 2: Shout out that shut out the Stack. I fuck with Stack. Oh, Matt Bondes, I fuck with they ship a lot of people.

01:06:25
Speaker 1: I fuck. Shout out to my brother Nori for inspiring me to even get in the game.

01:06:31
Speaker 2: Poppy, we love you and uh and so it's a you know, I'll just be talking my ship threatening everybody.

01:06:38
Speaker 1: Just getting money. Got rid of a whole section of dudes. It's enough money to yo yo, your man, dada kiss really for the streets. He really loved the streets. He said, y'all, Mercy. He came to me and said, Mercy Joe, Mercy Joe, you're going too crazy on these guys. Please let them meet man. Stop.

01:06:58
Speaker 3: And I backed up from that from the dirty section, Oh my god, I am the dirty.

01:07:06
Speaker 1: Ye when you're doing that with the hospital shit. All right, now, yo, look real race a dirty sex sometime. Look at this. Now, you want to feel me before I get out of here? Real quick? Feel me? Got a reckless you got a record teammate, Oh night, just the best of Oh you gotta request you want to feel me? I gotta hear feel before I get out of here. I gotta go do it. No, the end of.

01:07:38
Speaker 2: Wasting your time doing the podcast for somebody else. I'm telling you there's no flow with it. You want me to come over here with y'all. I'm just saying, whenever you want to come up and do a podcast, sports, everybody else, trash, all I.

01:07:52
Speaker 1: Want you to do is fill me. Yeah, I'm gonna walk out on this one. You play this in the locker. Come on, Jared thought I knew everything, wanted to do everything. I would spoil you stubborn, only child, only down. Now this is something that I can tell you. Always been wicked with the little kid. First addiction, Jove, the ice. After that it was life, skinned girls and nikes, junior.

01:08:22
Speaker 7: High school, high school, couple of semesters of college and the night school.

01:08:27
Speaker 3: I'm sorry riffing talking about how she can's the water grown man.

01:08:31
Speaker 1: The dogs flipping box used to say ship forever to be much.

01:08:35
Speaker 7: It was like he wasn't even man because we ain't three much going for whole weeks at the time. Uff at one eleven we used to roll three out of dime. I found myself sleeping in late doing nothing, fucking running with the niggas that was us, wasn't opening niggas was working for Ben Jordan's.

01:08:51
Speaker 1: Next two weeks they was broken again. Me and Ka keep having.

01:08:55
Speaker 3: Talks to it and talk again with the blocking crowdy waiting.

01:08:58
Speaker 4: For opening, and meanwhile, sh it's still slow and it's flowing.

01:09:01
Speaker 1: Never stopped to look back.

01:09:03
Speaker 3: You're still going by past the demo, the marriage, she passed it the cousin.

01:09:07
Speaker 1: We thought it was on, but it wasn't.

01:09:09
Speaker 7: And we can't blame nobody look at us now, dogs came in the game, nobody backed up long in the skull with that cake up and we.

01:09:17
Speaker 1: Ain't go platinum, or we made niggas wake up, them all talking about pumping the break and they only go.

01:09:23
Speaker 7: And see Bobby to get something sniffed about the fucking game up for real, Like.

01:09:27
Speaker 1: In the World Series, Nigga that tires.

01:09:29
Speaker 7: You down the field, provide you boss and the cane is invisible, but you can't hide the scars. I'll never be on the level that way, on the ability to have their thoughts, to spit that wrong.

01:09:41
Speaker 1: I'm good just waking up. That's how I know I got one more chance.

01:09:45
Speaker 7: And this ain't that

01:09:56
Speaker 1: You care