Players Say Peter Molyneux's New Game Is Too Much Like Cooking Mama

<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, welcome to Game Mess Mornings with Me Jeff Grub,
<v Speaker 1>your host from GiantBomb dot com. Thank you for tuning in.
<v Speaker 1>In this episode, we're gonna be talking about more switch
<v Speaker 1>to games getting announced, and did Peter Malinu accidently accidentally
<v Speaker 1>make a Cooking Mama game. It's gonna be a good
<v Speaker 1>one because we have Sean Turboshaw McDowell on the show. Sean,
<v Speaker 1>how are you doing.
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing pretty good, Jeff. I've been busy, been playing
<v Speaker 2>some stuff and looking forward to talking about that soon.
<v Speaker 2>Gain some retro achievements. That was my big thing over
<v Speaker 2>the weekend, finally getting cooking on those Wii retro achievements
<v Speaker 2>because I want that profile icon over there.
<v Speaker 1>Right, that's new, right. The Wei achievements we're at in
<v Speaker 1>the last month or.
<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, roughly a month ago, I believe, because they
<v Speaker 2>have any event, the we rollout event where if you
<v Speaker 2>get x number of points by you get one point
<v Speaker 2>for finishing a game, you get a second point for
<v Speaker 2>getting all the retro achievements in a game during games
<v Speaker 2>that are worth a doubler triple points and depending on how
<v Speaker 2>many you get during this three month event or however
<v Speaker 2>long it is through July, you'll get profile icon and
<v Speaker 2>I want to do that. But yeah, I've been working
<v Speaker 2>on Super Mario Galaxy. That was in the mood after
<v Speaker 2>the movie there of course.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, fun, a.
<v Speaker 2>Fun game, a little wonky controls wise. That's always been
<v Speaker 2>my issue with it is like how much we was
<v Speaker 2>in that game.
<v Speaker 1>Right necessarily so right, no, no second analog you kind
<v Speaker 1>of you just have to like go along with it,
<v Speaker 1>and then they kind of simplify some other things because of.
<v Speaker 2>That, right I was. I was streaming it actually, I
<v Speaker 2>fired up the personal stream for a person. I go, well, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>if everyone wants to watch, I'm doing that on the weekend,
<v Speaker 2>Twitch dot TV, Slash Turbo shawn Sahawn, And I was
<v Speaker 2>saying the whole time, when it's just being a three
<v Speaker 2>D platformer, it was just being a three D platform
<v Speaker 2>or no gimmickery. Galaxy is excellent when it's all about
<v Speaker 2>you know, the pointer controls and shaking and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's a little annoying for the platforming gimmicks.
<v Speaker 1>The gimmicks that are platform like the platforming focused all
<v Speaker 1>really good, and then they get even better. In my opinion,
<v Speaker 1>in Super Mario Galaxy Too. You're right, all the we
<v Speaker 1>gimmicks don't hold up.
<v Speaker 2>The one that I think works really well is the
<v Speaker 2>the slingshot stars were sure, yeah, you use the pointer
<v Speaker 2>and like fling Mario around an asteroid feeler sign that's
<v Speaker 2>very fun. But other than that, yeah, I'm looking forward
<v Speaker 2>to get playing Galaxy too as well. I think twy
<v Speaker 2>Princesses give me next for me.
<v Speaker 3>Though, Yeah, it is uh like Mario.
<v Speaker 1>The Three to Mario Platformers is one of the franchises
<v Speaker 1>that helped me realize why I do have such an
<v Speaker 1>affinity for the Nintendo sixty four. It like you kind
<v Speaker 1>of when you look at the complexity of what a
<v Speaker 1>game allows you to do. During the n sixty four hour,
<v Speaker 1>we really did go kind of down in the next generation,
<v Speaker 1>like let's pull back, let's make things a little bit simpler,
<v Speaker 1>make them a little bit more open for everybody, And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I thought, you know, it's definitely admirable, there's a reason
<v Speaker 1>to do that. But I could do a lot more
<v Speaker 1>shit as Mario and Mario sixty four then, or I
<v Speaker 1>felt like I have moretrol over him then a lot
<v Speaker 1>of the other follow ups there.
<v Speaker 3>Odyssey does bring it back in a lot of ways.
<v Speaker 1>But even then, I'm like, I think I still think
<v Speaker 1>Mario sixty four is the right way for Mario to feel,
<v Speaker 1>and that there's a lot of genres that do that
<v Speaker 1>from that generation to GameCube.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Up, Galaxies Galaxy As are still fantastic though that's not
<v Speaker 1>not saying anything against those for still.
<v Speaker 2>Very fun games. Yeah, I just think they have issues,
<v Speaker 2>is all.
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<v Speaker 1>Get into, so let's start the morning mess here with
<v Speaker 1>Geometry Wars inspired hits. Sectory appears on the Switch to
<v Speaker 1>e Shop. It's the biggest story of the year, everybody.
<v Speaker 1>This is Firmley Reynolds at Nintendo Life. Late last year,
<v Speaker 1>a critically acclaimed arcade game titled Sectory launched on PC
<v Speaker 1>and PlayStation five, and now it looks like it's heading
<v Speaker 1>to the Switch. Developed by an ex Housemart employee, Sectorius,
<v Speaker 1>heavily inspired by Geometry Wars, with a mix of twins
<v Speaker 1>day gameplay, hordes of colorful enemies, and levels that morph
<v Speaker 1>at will. Asian e shot pages list a release date
<v Speaker 1>of the fourteenth of May for the Switch. Thanks to
<v Speaker 1>recenter for spotting that. And we seriously can't wait to
<v Speaker 1>get cracking with this one. It's you know, it's that game.
<v Speaker 1>Now it's on switch. We always felt like that would happen.
<v Speaker 3>That that is. That's cool.
<v Speaker 1>I'm a little bit worried about that screen keeping up
<v Speaker 1>with that game, but just a little bit.
<v Speaker 3>I haven't had many issues.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, but that game is crazy enough where it's
<v Speaker 1>like if I was going to notice it in something
<v Speaker 1>the sort of ghosting the artifacts that happen, I might
<v Speaker 1>notice it with Sectory, a game I've played a lot
<v Speaker 1>on an o lead Steam deck. So yeah, now's the time, right, Sean.
<v Speaker 1>Everyone's going to get in.
<v Speaker 2>It's the biggest news story of the day, huh, leading
<v Speaker 2>headline here.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, to be fair, it's not like a heavy news day.
<v Speaker 1>So but I definitely would have led with this no
<v Speaker 1>matter what, Sean. So you got me, You got me,
<v Speaker 1>all right, you had me in the first half.
<v Speaker 3>There.
<v Speaker 2>You do raise an interesting point, though, Yeah, boy, that
<v Speaker 2>switched to screen. The more I play in handheld mode
<v Speaker 2>a fast paced game, I'm like, oh, oh, I revisited
<v Speaker 2>Mario Kart there day I'm like, oh this is Mary.
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, everyone was right, But yeah, Sectory, it'll be
<v Speaker 2>interesting to see how it looks on there. I do
<v Speaker 2>appreciate the extra resolution of a handheld mode. I was
<v Speaker 2>firing up I fired up Pokemon Violet or getting some
<v Speaker 2>Pokemon into Champions for you know, and jan do Pokemonday
<v Speaker 2>Night Combat, and as I was transferring stuff over, I noticed,
<v Speaker 2>dang heny looks sharp. Huh, it looks real nice.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the screen just got big enough where
<v Speaker 1>it's like that ten ADP.
<v Speaker 3>It's like, okay now.
<v Speaker 1>It's specially especially when they just make the game for it,
<v Speaker 1>because you don't have the interpolation there. It does make
<v Speaker 1>a difference.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Sectory definitely one that I enjoyed when I played.
<v Speaker 2>Of not not as hot on it as say you
<v Speaker 2>and Dan were, but I do think it's a very
<v Speaker 2>fun game that I'm glad to see. This is this
<v Speaker 2>The first console version was a PS five.
<v Speaker 3>It was PS five, it was PS five out.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, okay, Well, cool to see you go more
<v Speaker 2>places then, because I think this is a good handheld game.
<v Speaker 2>You really get the zone while you're just wherever you are.
<v Speaker 2>If you think you're gonna be watching TV, you won't be.
<v Speaker 2>You'll be focused on this game or for bedtime or whatever.
<v Speaker 2>I think this will be a fun game for that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a game that overwhelms the census for sure.
<v Speaker 1>You can't cannot. It's one of the things I like
<v Speaker 1>about it. It's a meditative, meditative because it's like, no,
<v Speaker 1>I have to throw every single one of my faculties
<v Speaker 1>into this game to be able to handle it at
<v Speaker 1>the level that I was trying to get to, and
<v Speaker 1>it was really good. I got into the uh I
<v Speaker 1>think I got into the top ten right.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>If not, I was like right there. Maybe I was
<v Speaker 1>like number eleven in the world or something like that.
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember off the top of my head. On Steam,
<v Speaker 1>it is a little bit like, oh man, now there's
<v Speaker 1>going to be a new leaderboard. I should probably get
<v Speaker 1>in there and set a score. That's a dangerous road
<v Speaker 1>for me. I played a lot of this game. I
<v Speaker 1>actually haven't told anyone this yet because it's kind of
<v Speaker 1>kind of embarrassing, and also it's one of those things
<v Speaker 1>where when I say it out loud, it's like I'm
<v Speaker 1>going to be so annoyed by and I'm gonna have
<v Speaker 1>to do something about it, and right now I'm trying
<v Speaker 1>to ignore it.
<v Speaker 3>My steam Deck.
<v Speaker 1>I was on vacation in Michigan last year and I
<v Speaker 1>brought it with me, and I was like, I charged
<v Speaker 1>it before the trip, but I must have like had it.
<v Speaker 1>I must have hit the button in my bag and
<v Speaker 1>it was like running in my bag and it was on,
<v Speaker 1>and the battery just drained to hell. And I was
<v Speaker 1>tired one night and I was trying to turn it on,
<v Speaker 1>like I know, it's got a full battery. So I
<v Speaker 1>was just kept trying to turn on, like what's going
<v Speaker 1>on here? It seems like it's about to turn on.
<v Speaker 1>And by doing that, I was just draining every last
<v Speaker 1>little bit of battery out of that thing, to the
<v Speaker 1>point where it just zapped it and it would not
<v Speaker 1>come back to life. I basically it just wiped some
<v Speaker 1>internal storage. The OS wouldn't work. I couldn't reinstall the OS,
<v Speaker 1>so Steam I worked with rmade it. They sent me
<v Speaker 1>a new one. And the only thing I really played
<v Speaker 1>on that thing for weeks was secretory and to the
<v Speaker 1>point where when I got done with it, I'm like,
<v Speaker 1>all right, I'm moving on to other games. The right
<v Speaker 1>analog stick was squeaking because I had played it so much.
<v Speaker 1>I think I had already wore already worn out the
<v Speaker 1>right analog stick on that thing. It was, and I
<v Speaker 1>kind I kind of have to like blow into it
<v Speaker 1>or use some compressed air and that'll fix it for
<v Speaker 1>a day, and then the next day squeaking again, and
<v Speaker 1>it's really annoying.
<v Speaker 3>I get bothered by that sort of thing, Sean.
<v Speaker 2>This also makes a lot more sense than how you
<v Speaker 2>originally told the story of your system just magically died.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we don't have to get in the details. Who
<v Speaker 3>did who?
<v Speaker 1>And maybe I said some things while I was still
<v Speaker 1>trying to get my replacement unit, so so who could say,
<v Speaker 1>uh but yeah, place Sectory, it's a it's a that's
<v Speaker 1>a real good game. Yeah all right, Yoshi and the
<v Speaker 1>Mysterious Book previews went live yesterday. They also put an
<v Speaker 1>overview trailer out today, so that that's worth tracking down
<v Speaker 1>because it's a little bit more interesting than I was expecting,
<v Speaker 1>and you can see me react to that. Because Backlar
<v Speaker 1>and Will went out to New York City to see
<v Speaker 1>the game. We put the quick Look. The Quick Look
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing that we have of that for the preview.
<v Speaker 1>It's out now. You should watch it because it is
<v Speaker 1>a different game than just a regular Yoshi platformer or
<v Speaker 1>just like a Hey run to the goal and maybe
<v Speaker 1>find a couple of secrets. It is almost combining the
<v Speaker 1>like cozy game stuff with a platformer where you have
<v Speaker 1>these interactions between the different enemies, like what's the Warrial
<v Speaker 1>land game that does that where like when Warrio runs
<v Speaker 1>into a certain enemy, he like catches on fire and
<v Speaker 1>can solve puzzles.
<v Speaker 3>Was that three?
<v Speaker 2>That's like most of them after a certain point, I
<v Speaker 2>want it to start.
<v Speaker 1>Two started, Yes, So it's a little bit similar to that,
<v Speaker 1>and a little bit similar to like Breath of the
<v Speaker 1>Wild chemistry system where these like you could feed a
<v Speaker 1>certain spicy chili pepper to one enemy and that will
<v Speaker 1>cause them to have a different effect.
<v Speaker 3>And then you could take that enemy who's now.
<v Speaker 1>Blowing out spicy bubbles or whatever to go go and
<v Speaker 1>interact with a different enemy, and not because they're getting
<v Speaker 1>hit with the spicy bubbles, they are producing a different
<v Speaker 1>effect themselves. And as you interact with these enemies, you know,
<v Speaker 1>not even enemies, they're just other like wildlife, and Yoshi's
<v Speaker 1>almost a scientist doing research on them, and that's what
<v Speaker 1>he's writing into the mysterious book you get to name them.
<v Speaker 1>There's a real cozy game atmosphere to it that I
<v Speaker 1>was not expecting, and I think it's not going to
<v Speaker 1>change my opinion on these Yoshi platforms of like now,
<v Speaker 1>they're the depth of Yoshi's Island that I loved.
<v Speaker 3>But it could be different in a good way.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so he's not a scientist, he's a Pokemon trainer.
<v Speaker 1>He's got pokea list it is. Yes, I think that's
<v Speaker 1>also a good way of looking at it.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, interesting, Okay, that makes it, uh maybe immediately more
<v Speaker 2>appealing because I think the big question was, what the
<v Speaker 2>hell is this game? What are you doing in this
<v Speaker 2>cute little platformer here? I have not got been so busy.
<v Speaker 2>I haven't even watched the quick look of it. But
<v Speaker 2>that's interesting. So in general people seem a little higher
<v Speaker 2>on it than before. Is like the overall vibe.
<v Speaker 1>I think people are like ready to give this one
<v Speaker 1>the benefit of the doubt in a way that when
<v Speaker 1>this game was announced, I think a lot of us
<v Speaker 1>have gone, We've done that before, We've given the Yoshioshi
<v Speaker 1>games the benefit of the doubt, with the expectations like
<v Speaker 1>maybe this one will be more like Yoshi's Island. And
<v Speaker 1>that's so, I think, because they're not asking us to
<v Speaker 1>do that same thing again. Because they're like, no, we're
<v Speaker 1>doing something different. People are Okay, maybe this could work,
<v Speaker 1>and it's not. It is certainly lack lackadaisical, which is
<v Speaker 1>what I've always said about the recent Yoshi games. I
<v Speaker 1>think that's the best word to describe them.
<v Speaker 3>It's still that.
<v Speaker 1>Now it's sort of like flipping that and like making
<v Speaker 1>it its strength of we're gonna get like, there's no
<v Speaker 1>reason to rush to the end, explore these worlds, jump
<v Speaker 1>around as Yoshi. You're gonna still be able to eat enemies,
<v Speaker 1>turn them into eggs, throw them at things, still find secrets.
<v Speaker 1>There's five of you know, flowers to find in these levels.
<v Speaker 1>All that stuff still here, but now we're adding another
<v Speaker 1>couple layers on top of that and making it complex
<v Speaker 1>in an interesting way. And so yeah, I think people
<v Speaker 1>are a little bit more optimistic than they ever would
<v Speaker 1>have been on this game had it not tried something different.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it seems like it just in general leaning
<v Speaker 2>into the cozy vibe that Yoshi has been going with
<v Speaker 2>for a while now, and so I think, yeah, me,
<v Speaker 2>maybe that's a good sign if people are a little
<v Speaker 2>more optimistic, maybe even that's a strong way of playing it.
<v Speaker 2>But our will, like you said, willing to give a
<v Speaker 2>chance and not just right off as well. This is
<v Speaker 2>a game made for the youngest of kids, and that's
<v Speaker 2>why it's so simple. Maybe there's something else here. I'm
<v Speaker 2>really curious about this one. I'm interested to see how
<v Speaker 2>it lands.
<v Speaker 3>Yep, yep, same.
<v Speaker 1>I am now adding it to the one where it's
<v Speaker 1>like I think a bunch of times me and might
<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, what's coming up with the switch too,
<v Speaker 1>and we name a bunch of games and not this one.
<v Speaker 3>I don't.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna forget this one anymore. I think now
<v Speaker 1>I'm like ready for it. Now, it's out next month,
<v Speaker 1>gonna be pretty easy to remember it. But no, something
<v Speaker 1>flipped a little bit here when Bacilar was showing walking
<v Speaker 1>us through it and back of Ar seemed to enjoy it,
<v Speaker 1>which always like, I wonder what you'r's going to think
<v Speaker 1>of this, and the fact that he seemed to be
<v Speaker 1>coming away being like, h this there's something here has
<v Speaker 1>me has peaked my interest for sure?
<v Speaker 3>All right?
<v Speaker 1>Uh up next, Ye's E's Memoir Revelations in Calsetta, Man,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of fun.
<v Speaker 2>Memoir revelations in Cell SETA.
<v Speaker 1>Cell SETA. All right, close reviews they're in. It's got
<v Speaker 1>an eighty on Open Critic. Seven out of ten from
<v Speaker 1>George Yang at Nintendo Life. Yee's Memoir is a good
<v Speaker 1>entry in the long running action RPG series, but it's
<v Speaker 1>far from the best. Despite the game's title. The plot
<v Speaker 1>is forgettable, but the explosive combat, charming characters, and booming
<v Speaker 1>soundtrack are engaging enough to keep your intention until.
<v Speaker 3>The credits roll.
<v Speaker 1>Adall has had more memorable adventures on Nintendo Switch, but
<v Speaker 1>mapping out the Great Forest of Calcetta SELSETA you said,
<v Speaker 1>still a fun time for me? Then nine out of
<v Speaker 1>ten from Matty Fisher at Dual Shockers. The bosses are
<v Speaker 1>a little weak, and it is a bit on the
<v Speaker 1>shorter side of the j RPG spectrum at twenty hours,
<v Speaker 1>but I feel like there's a genuine strength of the game,
<v Speaker 1>or that's a genuine strength of the game, I should say.
<v Speaker 1>If you've never played yas before, this is a great
<v Speaker 1>entry point for any newcomer, and then seven point five
<v Speaker 1>out of ten from Zoobi Kan at CG Magazine. A
<v Speaker 1>Y's Memoir is another entry into the long running series
<v Speaker 1>of action RPGs by Nihon Falcom, while also serving us
<v Speaker 1>a great jumping off point for newcomers. So I think
<v Speaker 1>there's this a franchise that people often say, Hey, where
<v Speaker 1>should I start?
<v Speaker 3>And it sounds like, you know, if you.
<v Speaker 1>Are if you're okay to spend the money on a
<v Speaker 1>game that people like, Hey, this is pretty good, but
<v Speaker 1>it's a good entry point. I think that makes some
<v Speaker 1>sense to me, although I would probably go like, why
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't Like a lot of people are saying there are
<v Speaker 1>better ones, why shouldn't I just start with the ones
<v Speaker 1>that are clearly better? But hey, I don't know, I've
<v Speaker 1>not played a lot of these games.
<v Speaker 2>Sean, Yeah, I wonder. I think the name might be
<v Speaker 2>because they don't want people to know what this actually is,
<v Speaker 2>which is a remastering of the remake of Ease four.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So the Ease games are kind of weird because chronologically
<v Speaker 2>they go out of order from their number in the series.
<v Speaker 2>They just like put his story in here and there
<v Speaker 2>and a bunch of different places. But I have mind
<v Speaker 2>standing because I haven't played much of the e series.
<v Speaker 2>My understanding is that they are kind of like Final Fantasy,
<v Speaker 2>kind of disconnected from each other, except that this series
<v Speaker 2>has the same main character in each one. It's a
<v Speaker 2>I guess you could say it's like the Ledge of Zelda.
<v Speaker 2>How links adventures are completely disconnected, even if it is
<v Speaker 2>the same link in each one, You'll just get references
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. Yeah, so I don't think this is great
<v Speaker 2>jumping on point necessarily, but they don't want people to
<v Speaker 2>know that because you know, the adventures are all disconnected
<v Speaker 2>from each other.
<v Speaker 1>Right, it can be in that, you know, the big
<v Speaker 1>numbering system that these games often do have, they are
<v Speaker 1>not afraid to go up to eight.
<v Speaker 3>Nine, ten. That's that could be intimidating to people. You know.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wonder if playing you know, his Ease ten
<v Speaker 2>just came out, like the definitive edition, that extra content
<v Speaker 2>just came out recently. I wonder if the ten on
<v Speaker 2>that like maybe scares some people off of like, oh no,
<v Speaker 2>there's nine stories that I have to catch up on here,
<v Speaker 2>and that's why they did. There's also The Oath in
<v Speaker 2>Fall Ghana was also a Ease memoir a game. They
<v Speaker 2>can call it like, you know, Ease Origin or Ease
<v Speaker 2>Book one and two like they have in the past.
<v Speaker 2>They just called it something else, maybe to not scare
<v Speaker 2>people off. I think that makes sense.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>There, you know this idea of a character going through
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of different adventures and having different ways of
<v Speaker 1>doing that, where apparently, yeah, link, it's always a different link,
<v Speaker 1>and apparently for this series it's always the same guy.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, you know, that's a distinction almost without a
<v Speaker 1>difference when it comes down to actually executing on the games.
<v Speaker 1>But you know, if you're a big fan, it can
<v Speaker 1>mean something. But it reminds me so much of those
<v Speaker 1>big franchise book characters that get really popular and then
<v Speaker 1>suddenly there's like seventy Jack Reacher novels and you're like,
<v Speaker 1>how many times can this guy save us from nuclear armageddon?
<v Speaker 1>It turns out seventy times, and it's like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>the stories are connected. It's the same character, but really
<v Speaker 1>one does not affect the other. It's a common thing
<v Speaker 1>in fiction. So yeah, and it has its own version
<v Speaker 1>of that for sure. So what I'm saying is Aldon
<v Speaker 1>is that the character's name is eight. Okay, yeah, he's
<v Speaker 1>a Jack Ryan from the Toms exactly. Yeah, no difference. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>let's get this is the real big story of the day. Sean,
<v Speaker 1>here you go. I knew you were waiting for this one.
<v Speaker 2>Ah uh huh.
<v Speaker 1>Players say Peter Malinu's new God game is too much
<v Speaker 1>like Cooking Mama. This is from Claire Lewis at GameSpot.
<v Speaker 1>Peter Malineu, creator of Fable and various popular God games
<v Speaker 1>like Black and White, has released what he says is
<v Speaker 1>his final game, the culmination of his life's work. That's
<v Speaker 1>a quote from him, and proof that he's done, done
<v Speaker 1>over promising and under delivering. Masters of Albion, a God
<v Speaker 1>game that launched in early access yesterday, is that game.
<v Speaker 1>But rather than feeling like an omnipotent God, players say
<v Speaker 1>that the game makes them feel like they're trapped in
<v Speaker 1>a medieval version of Cooking Mama. The main game This
<v Speaker 1>is a quote from I Believe, a user review on Steam.
<v Speaker 1>The main gameplay loop seems the center more or less
<v Speaker 1>around a Cooking Mama style minigame, one player wrote on Steam,
<v Speaker 1>where the game's user reviews are currently mixed. Master Valbiond's
<v Speaker 1>Steam page describes it as a bold reimagining of the
<v Speaker 1>god game genre from the creator who defined it, and
<v Speaker 1>explains that players can shape a living world as a god,
<v Speaker 1>or step into it and.
<v Speaker 3>Experience it through its people.
<v Speaker 1>The game includes building, town defense, and other typical life
<v Speaker 1>sim meets strategy games genre staples, but it also includes
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of painstaking cooking mama esque sandwich making. Apparently,
<v Speaker 1>for the majority of the time you will be making sandwiches, cakes, soups, pies, etc.
<v Speaker 1>Not being in all powerful godly hand. One thumbs down
<v Speaker 1>steam review adds reads, you literally put the bread down,
<v Speaker 1>then disciple what goes on top of the bread, then
<v Speaker 1>what goes on top of that or what ingredients you
<v Speaker 1>put in the soup. For each and every work order
<v Speaker 1>with a vague hint of what the client wants. The
<v Speaker 1>hints start out fairly easy. For example, the first request
<v Speaker 1>seems to be a sandwich with bread, dairy and nothing more. Clearly,
<v Speaker 1>this customer wants a cheese sandwich, But after watching a
<v Speaker 1>live stream in which the player fulfilled the this request
<v Speaker 1>by making a sandwich with cheese lettuce, tomatoes, wrap, meat,
<v Speaker 1>and vinegar, and was still given a ten out of
<v Speaker 1>ten score by the customer seeking a simple cheese sandwich.
<v Speaker 1>I have even more questions about how this is supposed
<v Speaker 1>to work. There's more to this story here, but I
<v Speaker 1>think we have a pretty good idea of what's going down.
<v Speaker 1>This game is an early access sean we should say
<v Speaker 1>that first. Okay, yes it's early access. It did just
<v Speaker 1>come out. This is the one where I think a
<v Speaker 1>lot of people will will remember when it got announced
<v Speaker 1>it was like, wait, isn't that the setting for Fable?
<v Speaker 1>Is he just like he was stealing from that? It's like, well, no,
<v Speaker 1>Albion is a it goes way back. That's public domain.
<v Speaker 1>A lot of games have used that as a sort
<v Speaker 1>of stand in for England, Great Britain. I'm not exactly sure.
<v Speaker 1>I am no expert and have not read a lot
<v Speaker 1>about it, but and it was always he's doing his
<v Speaker 1>own Fable thing again. It's like, well, no, he's going
<v Speaker 1>to kind of do his God game stuff, kind of
<v Speaker 1>black and white again or populous. And now it's here,
<v Speaker 1>and it does sound like another one of those like
<v Speaker 1>what are you going for, Peter, Peter, what were you
<v Speaker 1>trying to do here. Have you seen anyone, like watching
<v Speaker 1>streams playing this game. I've not seen anyone sort of
<v Speaker 1>pick it up yet.
<v Speaker 2>No, this is like the inverse of people who I
<v Speaker 2>want this is right. I can't imagine anybody I know
<v Speaker 2>picking up this game. Majority of your time making sandwiches
<v Speaker 2>and cakes and stuff.
<v Speaker 1>A majority in the God game you played like Black
<v Speaker 1>and White. You ever play any of his like previous
<v Speaker 1>God games, No, I haven't. Yeah, so like those, that's
<v Speaker 1>one of those games. Whereas like a console gamer, I
<v Speaker 1>still like noticed it because it was getting like ninety
<v Speaker 1>ninety one percent from PC gaming magazines and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 1>And I love the idea of like, oh, you play
<v Speaker 1>us the Hand and you can like sort of pick
<v Speaker 1>up the characters and put them together in situations, or
<v Speaker 1>you could just throw them across the world and punish
<v Speaker 1>them and smite them and all this stuff. And it's
<v Speaker 1>okay that that seems pretty interesting. And then yeah, it's
<v Speaker 1>so to hear like this game doesn't focus on that stuff.
<v Speaker 1>That really sort of made it a bit of a
<v Speaker 1>weirdly viral hitting a time where we didn't have those.
<v Speaker 1>It was it's like, oh, now you're making sandwiches instead,
<v Speaker 1>What were you trying to go for here? This does
<v Speaker 1>feel like filler until they can get the rest of
<v Speaker 1>the game made and they needed to start selling it.
<v Speaker 1>So it's an early access and what sounds to me
<v Speaker 1>like a very incomplete state, and I just been surprised
<v Speaker 1>that that's what happened here.
<v Speaker 2>That's interesting, and people's concerns about it strike me as
<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's a disconnect between how they want
<v Speaker 2>to market the game and maybe what the game actually is,
<v Speaker 2>because I'm looking at the Steam page now and it
<v Speaker 2>looks like what the description says. Yeah, there's parts of
<v Speaker 2>where it's a god game where you're building the town
<v Speaker 2>and then yeah, you had the floating hand. You can
<v Speaker 2>even like send out spells and stuff to affect the world,
<v Speaker 2>or you can like you know, slorp into a dude
<v Speaker 2>and walk around down there and do some stuff. So
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if, yeah, maybe they just have fleshed out
<v Speaker 2>the actual walking around more fably stuff and they haven't
<v Speaker 2>fleshed out the God game stuff as much. That's maybe
<v Speaker 2>might take away from this.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that sounds right, and yeah, there's a
<v Speaker 1>lot of skepticism and chat about like you know this
<v Speaker 1>is just, you know, a half finished game, and they're
<v Speaker 1>just trying to pawn it off as something maybe a
<v Speaker 1>little bit different so they can sell it.
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, probably probably.
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's the early access is and I think
<v Speaker 1>should be the wild West, and that means occasionally you're
<v Speaker 1>going to get something that is maybe even potentially a
<v Speaker 1>little bit deceptive. So don't buy early access games unless
<v Speaker 1>you're sure and you have that refund window. Definitely exercise
<v Speaker 1>you right to refund games on Steam if within that
<v Speaker 1>two hour period you kind of get the sense that
<v Speaker 1>things are off there. Yeah, I just walk carefully with
<v Speaker 1>anything that's labeled early access, and I would certainly do.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, most people are just not even going to
<v Speaker 1>sniff this thing, let alone go and spend money on it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>You know, Fables supposedly maybe still coming out this year.
<v Speaker 1>They have not given us a date yet, hopefully it is.
<v Speaker 1>I'm interested in that game still, although you know, this
<v Speaker 1>one I do not think is going to get to
<v Speaker 1>that point of being able to match the actual Fable
<v Speaker 1>that's coming out.
<v Speaker 3>But we'll see.
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<v Speaker 1>That's Turbo Shawn. I'm Jeff Grubb. Let's get back into
<v Speaker 1>the headlines here with one for our Mikeys. Everybody. We
<v Speaker 1>always do one for the Mikeys. Two Point Museum announces
<v Speaker 1>artsy FARTSI. No, that says Artifacts. That doesn't say artsy
<v Speaker 1>FARTSI at all, although for some reason it's always going
<v Speaker 1>to in my brain artie facts at DLC, which is
<v Speaker 1>another fun pun. This is from Nintendo Everything More. DLC
<v Speaker 1>is heading to Two Points Museum and Siga and Two
<v Speaker 1>Points Studio today announced that Artifacts is next up on
<v Speaker 1>the docket. It'll be available on Nintendo switch To as
<v Speaker 1>well soon. There's a bunch of new content in this
<v Speaker 1>let's see here. The Two Point Museum Artifacts DLC introduces
<v Speaker 1>art focused management to two point County, allowing players to
<v Speaker 1>collect and commission exhibitions ranging from famous work parodies like
<v Speaker 1>two point Gothic to interactive performance arts. Key features include
<v Speaker 1>a new art studio room where experts can create layered
<v Speaker 1>original art, and new museum location called Undie Docs, and
<v Speaker 1>an exhibition map based on Zara Fitzpocket's sketchbook. The DLC
<v Speaker 1>also adds art experts, over twenty seven art exhibits and
<v Speaker 1>themed items for gift shops and cafes. Man, you know, again,
<v Speaker 1>just kind of throwing in there because I know Mike
<v Speaker 1>likes this game so much. I do wonder, like, how
<v Speaker 1>DLCs for this kind of thing do? Is it like
<v Speaker 1>sims like where the people are into these things just
<v Speaker 1>they'll schlurp all these things up and just can't help themselves.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I would assume so, but what do
<v Speaker 3>you think.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I know, I'm not one of those people. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>this is some Micas and Pikes stuff. Hopefully doesn't wander
<v Speaker 2>on in here, and I want to talk about it
<v Speaker 2>for about twenty minutes straight. I'm always glad when games
<v Speaker 2>like this get some neat little DLCs to like, you know,
<v Speaker 2>keep people who are invested in the game interested in
<v Speaker 2>the game, and give them something new to do, because
<v Speaker 2>it does seem like Two Point Museum is a kind
<v Speaker 2>of game that led itself well to just yeah, you
<v Speaker 2>add some new stuff to play around with with the museum,
<v Speaker 2>maybe some new layer of the management sim of it all.
<v Speaker 2>I can see why that would be appealing.
<v Speaker 1>And it's it is the kind of thing where when
<v Speaker 1>you know, I played some of that game, I definitely
<v Speaker 1>felt this, and the way Mike has talked about it,
<v Speaker 1>this is the exact kind of stuff that they would
<v Speaker 1>like where it's say, hey, I like like going down
<v Speaker 1>these new paths of all right, now we're going to
<v Speaker 1>focus on a museum of this kind, and we are
<v Speaker 1>going to be able to do specific sort of rooms
<v Speaker 1>where cool stuff is happening with certain kinds of characters
<v Speaker 1>that I'm building. And it's like, oh yeah, they're delivering more
<v Speaker 1>of that and kind of making it a more fleshed
<v Speaker 1>out experience for a game that was already very well received.
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move on here more shoe Hey Yoshita news.
<v Speaker 1>He's been talking a lot. I think this is another
<v Speaker 1>one where he had a couple of public appearances and
<v Speaker 1>had some conversations. He says he sees gaming future as
<v Speaker 1>indie not quote generic Triple A games. This is from
<v Speaker 1>Devin McClure at GameSpot Shuey Yoshoulda, a prominent figure from
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation plays over two hundred and fifty games annually, focusing
<v Speaker 1>primarily on indie titles due to the time commitment required
<v Speaker 1>by Triple A games. He argues that indie games possess
<v Speaker 1>a stronger creative resolve because developers can execute their specific
<v Speaker 1>visions without the extensive approval processes and market driven safety
<v Speaker 1>common and large scale Triple A productions. Yoshoulda believes indie
<v Speaker 1>developer's lead industry innovation by exploring unique subjects that eventually
<v Speaker 1>inspire large, larger studios. Reflecting on his career, he highlights
<v Speaker 1>the democratization of game development through digital distribution as the
<v Speaker 1>industry's most significant shift, allowing any creator to become a publisher.
<v Speaker 1>While he acknowledges the decline in physical game production volume,
<v Speaker 1>he notes an increase in the variety of physical indie
<v Speaker 1>releases and collector's editions. Looking forward, yo should predicts a
<v Speaker 1>rise in game volume and quality through accessible creation tools
<v Speaker 1>that he warns that the saturation makes building and communicating
<v Speaker 1>with a dedicated community essential for indie's success. This is
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff I think that we kind of
<v Speaker 1>intuitively know, stuff that has been proved like born out
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of times, but I think it's certainly true
<v Speaker 1>at this point for me, that's like the innovation does
<v Speaker 1>come from INDI's and to me, sean you know, innovation
<v Speaker 1>and novelty things that like feel new to games. You know,
<v Speaker 1>there was a time where you could maybe expect that
<v Speaker 1>to happen from the big publishers, but in recent years
<v Speaker 1>and maybe going back for more than a decade and
<v Speaker 1>a half, at this point, it does feel like indie's
<v Speaker 1>are primarily responsible for the new ideas and to me,
<v Speaker 1>and you can tell me if you agree with this
<v Speaker 1>or not, new ideas are still what make video games
<v Speaker 1>go around, Like it still feels like that's the thing
<v Speaker 1>that makes this business sort of feel fresh.
<v Speaker 3>Is that right?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Absolutely, I think you're right. I think he's right.
<v Speaker 2>I think he's on to something here where indies are
<v Speaker 2>more and more important as especially as game prices go up,
<v Speaker 2>people are looking to indies both for affordable ways to
<v Speaker 2>play games as well as those new and interesting experiences
<v Speaker 2>that you're talking about. This is a concern that I've
<v Speaker 2>had a lot lately. I think a lot of people
<v Speaker 2>have just this is like an opinion that I hear
<v Speaker 2>of people I don't expect to be talking about it.
<v Speaker 2>Of just Triple A games feel a bit stagnant right
<v Speaker 2>now because there is that need to make the game profitable.
<v Speaker 2>And if you need to make a game extremely profitable
<v Speaker 2>because of how expensive it is to make a game,
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to take a risk on some bold
<v Speaker 2>new gameplay concept that may fall flat ats face. And
<v Speaker 2>some Triple As have tried that and they just, you know,
<v Speaker 2>they get absolutely roasted in reviews and stuff because not
<v Speaker 2>necessarily what people want out of that series, or because
<v Speaker 2>sometimes you try something it just doesn't land, and that
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's fine when it's a small team. Can't
<v Speaker 2>be that with a big team. And so these more
<v Speaker 2>interesting ideas, these creative concepts. Look it's on like Peak,
<v Speaker 2>for example, you can't have a team of two hundred,
<v Speaker 2>three hundred, four hundred people developing Peak and finding some
<v Speaker 2>way to put all these people to work and make
<v Speaker 2>it a big budget Triple A gaming sell for seventy
<v Speaker 2>dollars and have a bunch of micro transactions to keep
<v Speaker 2>it going long term or something. It needs to be
<v Speaker 2>the kind of thing that is made by a team
<v Speaker 2>of you know, like five, ten, twenty people, and then
<v Speaker 2>they can sustainably sell it for somewhere in that like
<v Speaker 2>eight dollars range five dollars. I hear it is often
<v Speaker 2>somewhere around there, because that's how that's how people can
<v Speaker 2>buy it, that's how the studios stay afloat, that's how
<v Speaker 2>the industry keeps rolling. Yeah, I think both of you
<v Speaker 2>guys are onto something here of just like it's concerning
<v Speaker 2>where Triple A is at. I think indis are a
<v Speaker 2>much more sustainable way forward.
<v Speaker 1>And it's a little bit frustrating, right because we talk
<v Speaker 1>about the risk a version that these big companies had
<v Speaker 1>or have and when it like and you know, it's
<v Speaker 1>like if they were to like talk to gamers like
<v Speaker 1>like showing like even like you you have your group
<v Speaker 1>of friends that like play games, if they were the
<v Speaker 1>focus group, right, if they were going to them, there's
<v Speaker 1>no way that like even that group of people who
<v Speaker 1>are I'm sure like money conscious and want to make
<v Speaker 1>sure that they're getting the biggest bang for their bunk
<v Speaker 1>or buck, are going to be like telling these companies
<v Speaker 1>be more risk averse, be more careful with your games,
<v Speaker 1>and be less weird. I think we all want like
<v Speaker 1>do something interesting, do something that surprises us. And it's like,
<v Speaker 1>if we could just tell these companies that they could
<v Speaker 1>hear us, they would be doing more of that, but
<v Speaker 1>they are like the message is not getting through to them.
<v Speaker 3>It feels like.
<v Speaker 2>Right, and you know, I'm actually happy you brought that up, because, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>my friend group is moving towards indy games. Game pass
<v Speaker 2>was a big part of that, and you know, some
<v Speaker 2>of them are still subscribed, some aren't because of the
<v Speaker 2>price changes and stuff like that. It's funny. When we
<v Speaker 2>got together this week, the talk was, hey, did your
<v Speaker 2>game passes going down in price? Because that was relevant
<v Speaker 2>to them, and so that was very big news. But
<v Speaker 2>you know, we have something like Black Ops six comes
<v Speaker 2>out and it's very fun, and then Black Ops seven
<v Speaker 2>comes out. It was very clearly supposed to be DLC,
<v Speaker 2>but for the sake of keeping the Call of Duty
<v Speaker 2>train rolling, they decide to sell it as a seventy
<v Speaker 2>dollars standalone product. And nobody I know is going for
<v Speaker 2>that shit.
<v Speaker 1>And everyone everyone's savvy enough to know what's going on exactly.
<v Speaker 2>But meanwhile they see something like peak or whatever. You know,
<v Speaker 2>indie game got added to game Pass that week, or
<v Speaker 2>an indie game that they see on TikTok or whatever
<v Speaker 2>and they pick up for like twelve dollars, and that's
<v Speaker 2>something that is immediately more appealing to them because it
<v Speaker 2>is that fresh experience that also doesn't cost a lot.
<v Speaker 2>And you know, it goes back to that thing I
<v Speaker 2>was saying about Triple A Games kind of being stuck
<v Speaker 2>right now is because they can't put out something new
<v Speaker 2>and fresh when the safe thing is right there. And
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I don't think they realize people are
<v Speaker 2>over safe. You know, we we've gone through a lot
<v Speaker 2>of the big ideas in Triple A Games and we're
<v Speaker 2>not seeing a lot of innovation. It takes something like
<v Speaker 2>a pragmata, which is like turning the third person shooter
<v Speaker 2>on his head a little bit to draw attention. And
<v Speaker 2>we see that with you know, sales numbers, like for
<v Speaker 2>a new ip something weird and different as well, like
<v Speaker 2>Visually then turn around and sell a million copies in
<v Speaker 2>just that first weekend is doing really well. And yes,
<v Speaker 2>of course part of that is capcom of course. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but also like anyone I show, like I'm like, hey,
<v Speaker 2>check out a little bit of gameplay from when I
<v Speaker 2>was playing. Here's this cool clip, and they're like this
<v Speaker 2>looks sick as hell. I want to try this. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>like more risks need to be taken.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's uh, And it's you know, we always point
<v Speaker 1>to CAPC on the show about Hey, that's one of
<v Speaker 1>the companies that's doing things right, and I think if
<v Speaker 1>we tried to sort of diagnose, like what is it
<v Speaker 1>that they're doing right, it is the marriage of their
<v Speaker 1>trying by some stuff.
<v Speaker 3>They're there.
<v Speaker 1>They're properly refreshing and sort of refertilizing their most known properties,
<v Speaker 1>and then they're always marriaging that with a level of
<v Speaker 1>quality and and the like we're gonna make these things
<v Speaker 1>look good and look expensive. A lot of these big
<v Speaker 1>publishers are just that they just make it look expensive. Obviously,
<v Speaker 1>some of the ones that are like the top of
<v Speaker 1>the top, like the Naughty Dogs, are like able to
<v Speaker 1>have gameplay innovation and the most expensive stuff, and then
<v Speaker 1>their games cost an astronomical amount of money. But it's
<v Speaker 1>like capcomes sort of figure out how to do it
<v Speaker 1>in a way that feels sustainable, and it's like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>that's what they're doing right. They're kind of just doing
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of everything that has always made gaming good,
<v Speaker 1>and they're just doing it in a way that now
<v Speaker 1>looks like, oh, if I'm paying seventy or in some
<v Speaker 1>case like Pragmato, right, it's sixty dollars, paying sixty dollars
<v Speaker 1>for a game. This is what I can get from
<v Speaker 1>a publisher that really knows what they're doing. That feels
<v Speaker 1>really good. And then on the ending side of things,
<v Speaker 1>it's like, once you get down below thirty dollars, you
<v Speaker 1>have so much more freedom to sort of just like
<v Speaker 1>focus on the ideas rather than hey, this thing looks
<v Speaker 1>big and expensive, and indie developers are running with that.
<v Speaker 1>Of course, I mean Slay the Spire two success is
<v Speaker 1>just oh yeah, that is a cultural thing at this
<v Speaker 1>point that is caught on, and yeah, it does feel
<v Speaker 1>like that is going to be what happens those things succeed,
<v Speaker 1>it will filter up, Epic will steal it and put
<v Speaker 1>it in Fortnite.
<v Speaker 2>That is I think I Slay Aspire two is a
<v Speaker 2>good example of where people actually do want more of
<v Speaker 2>it because it's not necessarily an oversaturated thing. Do you
<v Speaker 2>look for a Slave the Spire clones on Steam, you'll
<v Speaker 2>find them. There's spell out of them, but none of
<v Speaker 2>them are quite lay the spire. None of them are
<v Speaker 2>quite at that quality. And so I think that it's
<v Speaker 2>like tabletop gaming. You know, you a new trading card game, expansion,
<v Speaker 2>a new version of the board game, you like, that
<v Speaker 2>adds more layers. I think adding more of that exact
<v Speaker 2>same thing when you haven't been oversaturated is very appealing.
<v Speaker 2>But the difference between Indian Triple A is like, because
<v Speaker 2>if we get a Peak two where it's like, hey,
<v Speaker 2>everyone's got jet packs, now, everyone's like, hell yeah peak
<v Speaker 2>with jet packs because we don't have a million climbing
<v Speaker 2>games yet. And so yeah, I think there's still room
<v Speaker 2>in that for indies in the way that Triple A
<v Speaker 2>just doesn't have. And playing off weightsit with Capcom. I
<v Speaker 2>think what they're smart about is the fact that they
<v Speaker 2>keep making video gaming ass video games. Really, Capcom's only
<v Speaker 2>downturn was when they tried being generic Triple A video
<v Speaker 2>games that appealed to the West quote unquote in like
<v Speaker 2>the early twenty tens. There. That was the one time
<v Speaker 2>where they had like no real bangers for a couple
<v Speaker 2>of years there, and they had to they had to
<v Speaker 2>turn things around, and so they just went back to
<v Speaker 2>making PS one and PS two games, but with PS
<v Speaker 2>four and five graphics and everybody loves it. And I
<v Speaker 2>think more companies to need to look at what they're
<v Speaker 2>doing if they want to have that success in the
<v Speaker 2>triple A space and not potentially puts one out there
<v Speaker 2>that could see some success or could fall flat on
<v Speaker 2>s face relative to the to the cost of making.
<v Speaker 1>Right and you know, then the costs, I think are
<v Speaker 1>the thing that indie developers would step and at this
<v Speaker 1>point and be like, look, yeah, we are happy to
<v Speaker 1>be the bastions of innovation and novelty. Absolutely, but it's
<v Speaker 1>kind of rough out here for us right now, not
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money going around. And one of the
<v Speaker 1>things that works against them is the recent model has
<v Speaker 1>been a small team sort of funding themselves. Maybe often
<v Speaker 1>developers that have worked at bigger studios that might have
<v Speaker 1>some money in their pocket spend six months to nine
<v Speaker 1>months making a friend slop game. Never a pejorative when
<v Speaker 1>it comes out of my mouth, a friends slap game,
<v Speaker 1>and it sells millions of copies at eight bucks a pop,
<v Speaker 1>and is like, oh, well that's now, that's your gravy train.
<v Speaker 1>And you didn't need a publisher to step in, so
<v Speaker 1>kind of publishers are like.
<v Speaker 3>What are we doing here?
<v Speaker 1>You've got to really tell us why you need our
<v Speaker 1>money to make something, and you're not just one of
<v Speaker 1>these lottery tickets that's like, hey, we're another friend's slop
<v Speaker 1>game or something like that. But that does lead into
<v Speaker 1>the next story of like there are these indie successes
<v Speaker 1>that then sort of perpetuate more money coming into the space.
<v Speaker 1>Vampire Survivor's creator Ponkol has over fifteen projects in the works.
<v Speaker 1>This is from Ben Lanions at Game Reactor. When Vampire
<v Speaker 1>Survivors made its arrival, the game quickly grew and caught
<v Speaker 1>the attention of millions of players, so many, in fact,
<v Speaker 1>that it took the small indie company of Ponkel from
<v Speaker 1>a small fry to a rather large fish. Today, Poncol
<v Speaker 1>is in the business of game publishing two, using its
<v Speaker 1>wealth and poll to help other indies to indie teams
<v Speaker 1>find their footing, But it also has grand plans of
<v Speaker 1>its own, including a massive expansion and development power, and
<v Speaker 1>plans to open new studios around the world. Speaking with
<v Speaker 1>the Game Business, Punkell's chief strategy officer Matteo Sapio revealed
<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of information about the company and its
<v Speaker 1>plans for the future. For one, it was revealed that
<v Speaker 1>Vampire Survivors has now reached as many as twenty seven
<v Speaker 1>million players. Obviously, it's on like all kinds of different services,
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of people bought that game.
<v Speaker 3>It's on mobile. It's huge, and.
<v Speaker 1>This success is enabling poncol to commence work on over
<v Speaker 1>fifteen upcoming projects, with even more ideas in very early
<v Speaker 1>and rudimentary stages. Not all of these will be Vampire
<v Speaker 1>related games, however, as Punk goes exploring some new avenues
<v Speaker 1>where it can, while simultaneously licensing out it's engine to
<v Speaker 1>other creators and brands that want to make Survivors games
<v Speaker 1>of their own. With broad development hopes. Pocos even soon
<v Speaker 1>set to open two new studios, one in Italy and
<v Speaker 1>one in Japan, although this will seemingly be coming at
<v Speaker 1>the cost of its third party publishing efforts, which are
<v Speaker 1>now said to have been paused. So it's like, it's
<v Speaker 1>interesting to see these companies try to navigate this space, right,
<v Speaker 1>I think we hear Indie studio that had big indie
<v Speaker 1>hit is now now has publishing ambitions, and that is
<v Speaker 1>they're going to work with their friends in the space
<v Speaker 1>to sort of publish their games and try to find
<v Speaker 1>the next hit. And some of them have success, and
<v Speaker 1>some of them are very good at that, and some
<v Speaker 1>of them find that pretty challenging. Right, it's, you know,
<v Speaker 1>the hit driven business of picking the next winner. I
<v Speaker 1>imagine Sean, that would be pretty difficult.
<v Speaker 3>Right.
<v Speaker 1>You got to really put your taste on the line
<v Speaker 1>and be like, is this thing going to pay off?
<v Speaker 3>I think it is because I like it.
<v Speaker 1>And say, okay, that's you know, it's a big bet
<v Speaker 1>when you start putting tens of thousands and then hundreds
<v Speaker 1>of thousands of dollars behind something. So in the case Sophuncle,
<v Speaker 1>they're shifting from all right, let's use that money to
<v Speaker 1>find these others, these other studios that are making games
<v Speaker 1>to instead like, let's fund our own studios.
<v Speaker 3>And this is something we haven't.
<v Speaker 1>Seen a ton of from an indie team kind of
<v Speaker 1>taking this stuff on and I'm I'm pretty I'm into it.
<v Speaker 3>What do you think of it?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think I think this is good for indies
<v Speaker 2>in general to like help raise each other up a
<v Speaker 2>little bit. By the way, because Chaw was saying, to
<v Speaker 2>be clear, yeah, this is being passed around initially as
<v Speaker 2>they had fifteen games in the works and fifteen projects
<v Speaker 2>as in a game or two, they have some DLC
<v Speaker 2>they're working on. They have major updates that they're working on.
<v Speaker 2>That's what that's what projects be.
<v Speaker 3>Yees a variety of different yes, yes, writers later on.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very clear on that. Yeah. But when it comes
<v Speaker 2>to things that they're talking about, yeah, like helping other
<v Speaker 2>games get published and like get off the ground and
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. I think that's really cool because we
<v Speaker 2>saw that with what wasn't it when you were talking
<v Speaker 2>last week about dos A Divas? Is that the one
<v Speaker 2>that it has the relationship with what's her name buckle
<v Speaker 2>fish or whatever?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Right, I think there was a relationship with somebody I.
<v Speaker 2>Forget the name because the studios.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so some of these just names that are nouns
<v Speaker 2>kind of just run together my head. Apologies everyone, but
<v Speaker 2>it is cool to see to see these studios like
<v Speaker 2>you know, Rising Tide, right, like helping each other out,
<v Speaker 2>helping get the games out there. Hey we were super successful,
<v Speaker 2>so we'll help you get this thing out the door.
<v Speaker 2>Because we think that your thing is cool and people
<v Speaker 2>buy it.
<v Speaker 4>And we know how to navigate this stuff. Now we
<v Speaker 4>know how to navigate this stuff. We can help you out.
<v Speaker 4>And hey, did you hear that if your thing sells,
<v Speaker 4>everybody makes money. It's kind of you know how selling
<v Speaker 4>games used to work back in a day. We give
<v Speaker 4>you some money, you give us some money. Afterwards we
<v Speaker 4>shake hands in part ways as all good. It's funny
<v Speaker 4>how we just had a good conversation there about INDI's
<v Speaker 4>sort of slowly taken over some of the mind space
<v Speaker 4>of of big triple as Theirpy triple As. And now
<v Speaker 4>we have it where indies have grown to the point
<v Speaker 4>where they're kind of just doing what the game industry
<v Speaker 4>used to be as Triple A spirals out of control,
<v Speaker 4>and it's just all about the Quadruple A budgets that
<v Speaker 4>no one knows how to actually spend.
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's not like CEO's screwing everybody over all up
<v Speaker 2>and down the stack. No, it's just a studio who
<v Speaker 2>wants to make a game makes a game. A slightly
<v Speaker 2>bigger indie studio helps another one out and they get
<v Speaker 2>the thing out the door. As a publishing partnership, it's great.
<v Speaker 2>I'm loving this, and I think that's certainly part of
<v Speaker 2>why indies are just getting more and more successful, is
<v Speaker 2>as you see more and more people kind of just
<v Speaker 2>helping each other out because they're like, hey, we love
<v Speaker 2>video games. We an'll want video games to go away,
<v Speaker 2>and it kind of feels like it might if we
<v Speaker 2>just leave things in the hands of these companies have
<v Speaker 2>grown way too big yep, exactly.
<v Speaker 1>And it's you know, then to that final point about
<v Speaker 1>you got to find those indie communities they could be
<v Speaker 1>a part of so that you can have a conversation
<v Speaker 1>with that direct audience because it's going to get saturated.
<v Speaker 3>There are going to be so many games for people
<v Speaker 3>to spend their money on.
<v Speaker 1>We're already there obviously, and it's only going to be exacerbated.
<v Speaker 1>There is no sort of silver bullet solution to that.
<v Speaker 1>It's just putting effort into being like, hey, when a
<v Speaker 1>coupany like this puts out a game, a certain community
<v Speaker 1>notices because they like the people involved or the people
<v Speaker 1>surrounding it. And I definitely like viewers of view us
<v Speaker 1>over at Giant Bombs, Hey, we're part of that, and
<v Speaker 1>it's like, yeah, we definitely want to continue being a
<v Speaker 1>stitch in.
<v Speaker 3>That thread over there for sure. All right, let's.
<v Speaker 1>Keep going here, shifting Gears. More Call of Duty games
<v Speaker 1>are coming to Xbox Game Pass this year. This is
<v Speaker 1>from Evan Campbell at GameSpot. Microsoft might be dropping new
<v Speaker 1>Call of Duty games from Xbox Game Pass, and that
<v Speaker 1>says in the new ones going forward, but that reportedly
<v Speaker 1>won't stop older entries in the first person shooter franchise
<v Speaker 1>from arriving on the service sooner rather than later. According
<v Speaker 1>to pc Gamer, Activision is looking at bringing legacy Call
<v Speaker 1>of Duty games to subscribers sometime this year. There are
<v Speaker 1>tons of options, considering there are only six Call of
<v Speaker 1>Duty titles on game Pass currently. The oldest is twenty
<v Speaker 1>seventeen's Call of Call of Duty World War Two, while
<v Speaker 1>weirdly twenty twenties Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War
<v Speaker 1>is it included. In fact, it was only last week
<v Speaker 1>that twenty nineteen's Call of Duty Modern Warfare joined the
<v Speaker 1>subscription catalog. That leaves a huge chunk of the series
<v Speaker 1>to pick and choose from, such as two thousand and
<v Speaker 1>sevens Call of Duty Modern Warfare, Call of Duty Black Ops,
<v Speaker 1>or even going back to the beginning with the original
<v Speaker 1>Call of Duty from two thousand and three. Microsoft has
<v Speaker 1>owned Activision blizterd for years at this point, so it's
<v Speaker 1>a bit odd. So many Call of Duty games are
<v Speaker 1>mia on game Pass, Sean, is it odd or do
<v Speaker 1>you have like a sort of a thinking of like
<v Speaker 1>why they've held back and other than god, it it
<v Speaker 1>might be a mess to sort of navigate that as
<v Speaker 1>you try to make sure people are playing the new
<v Speaker 1>Call of Duty while having access to older Call of Duties.
<v Speaker 2>What do you think, Well, these games still sell. It's
<v Speaker 2>a big thing. That's why they're disincentivized for I'm pulling
<v Speaker 2>them in game pass. I don't know if you've ever
<v Speaker 2>looked at buying an old one anytime recently. It's still
<v Speaker 2>that thing. It was kind of a meme there for
<v Speaker 2>a while thereof Call of Duty games don't really drop
<v Speaker 2>the low twenty dollars on sale because Activision knows that
<v Speaker 2>they can squeeze people for every dollar with these things.
<v Speaker 2>Although that luster is quickly fading with the Call of
<v Speaker 2>Duty series, and so I think there's this interesting standoff
<v Speaker 2>between the community and Activision and now Xbox of well,
<v Speaker 2>they could put more of these games into the service,
<v Speaker 2>right are people going to play them? Do people care anymore?
<v Speaker 2>Have we all kind of just like been so frustrated
<v Speaker 2>with Activision and they're handling of the series at this
<v Speaker 2>point that we're all just saying, you know what, no,
<v Speaker 2>screw you guys, I'm gonna do something else, or you
<v Speaker 2>know what, you guys put a war zone for free.
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna play it for free and not give
<v Speaker 2>you any money because I want to give you any
<v Speaker 2>money anymore, and you still give me a little bit
<v Speaker 2>of that Call of Duty itch when I want it.
<v Speaker 2>I think that back and forth has been very odd
<v Speaker 2>for a very long time. And you know, people have
<v Speaker 2>been talking for a bit here ever since the price
<v Speaker 2>drop on game Pass got Now since it's because they're
<v Speaker 2>removing new Call of Duty games, Everyone's like, well, then
<v Speaker 2>what was all of this for? Then? Why did you
<v Speaker 2>go through these lengths Like this all feels very bizarre
<v Speaker 2>that you just pride something with the biggest checkbook in
<v Speaker 2>the world and failed, and we're just not going to
<v Speaker 2>try to remedy that. We're just like reversing course. Altogether.
<v Speaker 2>That seemed like a lot of lives upended, jobs lost,
<v Speaker 2>and just a whole bunch of other crap because you
<v Speaker 2>all couldn't get your shit together. I don't know. The
<v Speaker 2>entire situation with Call of Duty has been messed up
<v Speaker 2>for a very long time, and I think this is
<v Speaker 2>just another example of them figuring out what to do.
<v Speaker 2>How much do we put into our services? How much
<v Speaker 2>value do we give to the customer when we still
<v Speaker 2>know that people will buy these games on sale for
<v Speaker 2>twenty dollars or even by them price for sixty dollars.
<v Speaker 2>There's a bizarre back and forth there that most our
<v Speaker 2>franchises and gaming do not have.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's the call of duty stuff that's made me
<v Speaker 1>realize that while these companies do have all of this telemetry,
<v Speaker 1>all this data on us, and they know what we
<v Speaker 1>don't like the people sitting in the room, then taking
<v Speaker 1>that data being like, all right, and therefore here is
<v Speaker 1>the solution to that. Here's what we can do to
<v Speaker 1>change our fate. This is the easy path forward. They
<v Speaker 1>don't know what they're talking about. They are just as
<v Speaker 1>clueless as any of us about what would work in
<v Speaker 1>this industry, and oftentimes more clueless. And the fact that
<v Speaker 1>they can oscillate back and forth between these different positions
<v Speaker 1>of like what game Pass is whether Call of Duties
<v Speaker 1>in game Pass, whether everything's an Xbox, whether everything's not
<v Speaker 1>an Xbox, just back and forth between all these positions.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, there is no one obvious answer based
<v Speaker 1>on all that data. It is just a bunch of noise.
<v Speaker 1>And they still have to try to suss out a
<v Speaker 1>signal and they're struggling to do that, and it looks
<v Speaker 1>just like any other company that's like, hey, this current
<v Speaker 1>strategy isn't worked. Let's bring a new new leadership. And
<v Speaker 1>the new leaderships like, well, because we're new, we have
<v Speaker 1>to do things a different way. So let's go to
<v Speaker 1>the one alternative here. And it's like, well, that means
<v Speaker 1>Call of Duty comes out of game Pass, the price
<v Speaker 1>goes down after going up, everything is an Xbox, now
<v Speaker 1>everything's not an Xbox. Uh yeah, it's it's weird to see.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, yeah, they don't know what they're doing.
<v Speaker 2>It does seem like a weird thing where maybe Asha
<v Speaker 2>is looking to get a little goodwill going there and
<v Speaker 2>like maybe unilaterally decide we need to lower the price
<v Speaker 2>on game Pass because that will make people happy. How
<v Speaker 2>can we do that? And the only business thing that
<v Speaker 2>they could think of was oh.
<v Speaker 1>Dude, you gotta go then, right, and it's and like
<v Speaker 1>it was probably the easy one because, as you said,
<v Speaker 1>it's it really seemed like an experiment. They were testing
<v Speaker 1>things out in a way where it's like they didn't
<v Speaker 1>know and so where they're just trying all this stuff
<v Speaker 1>out and all of the consequences, any of the layoffs
<v Speaker 1>that might have happened, all this stuff, all that can
<v Speaker 1>be damned because we got to find out.
<v Speaker 3>What happens if we do this all right.
<v Speaker 1>Anna Perna announces switch to ports of five games with Cionara,
<v Speaker 1>Wild Hearts and Laura l and the Laser Eyes out today.
<v Speaker 1>This is from Chris Scullion at VGC and a Purna
<v Speaker 1>Interactive is announced switch to versions of five of its
<v Speaker 1>back catalog games, two of which are available today. Those
<v Speaker 1>are Syonaro Wild Hearts, which is available now on switch
<v Speaker 1>to e Shop at thirteen dollars with a free upgrade
<v Speaker 1>for owners of the switch version the game, which was
<v Speaker 1>originally released in twenty twenty one ABAFTA. The switch To
<v Speaker 1>edition features one hundred and twenty hertz for fresh support
<v Speaker 1>and four K support, and adds the Remix Arcade mode,
<v Speaker 1>which wasn't previously available on switch It's joined by Laura
<v Speaker 1>Li and The Laser Eyes, which is also available today.
<v Speaker 1>That one's twenty five dollars, including a free upgrade for
<v Speaker 1>switch version owners. It also supports one hundred and twenty
<v Speaker 1>hertz and four K and a Perna will be following
<v Speaker 1>this up with a switch to version of Stray, which
<v Speaker 1>is coming May twenty eighth for thirty dollars. A switch
<v Speaker 1>to version will have improved visuals, four K support and
<v Speaker 1>improved frame rate. Then in June, switch to version of
<v Speaker 1>Cada Takashi's Katamari Demassi, The Oh No, The Kanamari Demasi
<v Speaker 1>Guys to a T and Baby Rindon's wander Stop He's
<v Speaker 1>the one that did the Stanley parable to a T
<v Speaker 1>will be released on switch To on June eleventh for
<v Speaker 1>twenty dollars. Wander Stop will be released June twenty third
<v Speaker 1>for twenty five dollars. And has already put out excuse Me,
<v Speaker 1>people of Note, and then mixtape is coming May seventh,
<v Speaker 1>excuse me, Sean, go ahead and talk for a second
<v Speaker 1>white career in my throat.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I was looking at all of these titles
<v Speaker 2>and I was curious how many of these alre have
<v Speaker 2>uh switched versions, and this is more of announcement of
<v Speaker 2>they're getting upgraded to switch to It does seem like
<v Speaker 2>quite a few of them are already at least maybe
<v Speaker 2>all of them are already on Switch one, and this
<v Speaker 2>is more just about getting the enhanced versions exactly. But
<v Speaker 2>for some of these it's going to be really cool,
<v Speaker 2>especially if they are increasing the frame rate, because yeah,
<v Speaker 2>sign O Wildhearts is one of them getting one twenty
<v Speaker 2>I believe the story said, Yeah, so that'll be really cool.
<v Speaker 4>I know.
<v Speaker 2>I just picked up Cinara Wildhearts on sale for Steam
<v Speaker 2>because I had actually never played it before, and over
<v Speaker 2>at My Life and Gaming Corey I think said that's
<v Speaker 2>like his favorite game of that generation.
<v Speaker 3>Wow.
<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, because it's just like, again, I've seen a
<v Speaker 2>little bit of gameplay. I haven't played it before, but
<v Speaker 2>apparently he describes as like it's just a music video
<v Speaker 2>but with gameplay elements, and I'm like, oh, that sounds
<v Speaker 2>really appealing. And so I picked up when I was
<v Speaker 2>like five dollars the our day, and yeah, this gets
<v Speaker 2>the something that we were saying a little bit earlier
<v Speaker 2>in the show. As well of playing these games out
<v Speaker 2>there and gain them to more people, always a good thing,
<v Speaker 2>and that this is the advantage of the Swish too.
<v Speaker 2>They're better than ever and they are more competitive with
<v Speaker 2>how you can play them in our places, so it
<v Speaker 2>becomes less of a you know, you don't have to
<v Speaker 2>think as much about do I get this platform or
<v Speaker 2>that platform because the switch to version, especially of these
<v Speaker 2>indie games are just as good as any of our
<v Speaker 2>version now, which is very cool.
<v Speaker 1>See Yeah, and I also included this story as something
<v Speaker 1>I think you're kind of alluding to here of like,
<v Speaker 1>these are mostly switched one to switch to upgrades, and
<v Speaker 1>so we can have one of these stories and be like,
<v Speaker 1>this doesn't mean anything for like a Nintendo Direct, right.
<v Speaker 1>These are the kinds of things that probably if they
<v Speaker 1>were going to be in a Nintendo Direct, would be
<v Speaker 1>in a sizzle reel or something like that.
<v Speaker 3>Here are some switch to upgrades.
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like if there is a switch to or
<v Speaker 1>a switch to dedicated direct coming up, it's gonna be
<v Speaker 1>jam packed with stuff.
<v Speaker 3>These just wouldn't make the cut.
<v Speaker 1>So a developer like this can announce them all in
<v Speaker 1>one go, make something of a big splash, remind people like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>Cyonara Wildhearts, which I do think I'm seeing some of
<v Speaker 1>that in chat right now, people going yeah, that game
<v Speaker 1>does rule, and oh I always meant to check that out.
<v Speaker 3>Well, now here's another good reason to do so.
<v Speaker 1>And you know they can get a little bit of
<v Speaker 1>that shine of hey, we're on switch to now that
<v Speaker 1>thing that you're playing a lot of, while also probably
<v Speaker 1>not having the chance to be in a direct like
<v Speaker 1>I said, so, yeah, Well, while there's a lot of
<v Speaker 1>like smoke happening behind the scenes with the oh games
<v Speaker 1>that are getting rated for Switch too, and they haven't
<v Speaker 1>been announced yet, not everything is going to be another
<v Speaker 1>check mark in that case, Okay. Tomodachi Life Living the
<v Speaker 1>Dream tops the Japanese charts, out selling the rest of
<v Speaker 1>the top ten combined seven times over.
<v Speaker 3>This is from Chrisco and at VGC.
<v Speaker 1>Tomodachi Life Living the Dream has stormed to the top
<v Speaker 1>of the physical game charts in Japan, easily out selling
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the top ten multiple times over. According
<v Speaker 1>to Famitsu's weekly Software and Hardware Sales, the physical version
<v Speaker 1>of the Switch Life the Switch Life sim sold five
<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty five thousand, four hundred and five copies
<v Speaker 1>between its release on April sixteenth and the end of
<v Speaker 1>the chart period on April nineteenth, half a million copies
<v Speaker 1>physical only in Japan. Yeah, that's a huge, huge launch. Now,
<v Speaker 1>It's not like Tomodaci Life was not popular in Japan.
<v Speaker 1>I think the Tomadachi Collection for the DS sold something
<v Speaker 1>like three million Sean and then Tomodachi Life. I can't
<v Speaker 1>remember what they called it in Japan, but yeah, tomotatur
<v Speaker 1>Life for the three DS was something like six million,
<v Speaker 1>and that was primarily in Japan. I think worldwide I
<v Speaker 1>might have said that was, but yeah, worldwide it was
<v Speaker 1>six million, and a lot of that was in Japan,
<v Speaker 1>and with some success across the world. Now it feels like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>this is going to have a switch bump for a
<v Speaker 1>franchise that was already doing very well. And on top
<v Speaker 1>of that, it does seem like it's going viral in
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the world. I still see it everywhere
<v Speaker 1>on social media. So yeah, this game is just popping
<v Speaker 1>off in a very Pacopia like way.
<v Speaker 3>Right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. This makes a lot of sense too, because I
<v Speaker 2>think Japanese gaming, you know, cass is a little bit different.
<v Speaker 2>They do have tendency to like very social games. Games
<v Speaker 2>that they can quickly share with our person and portable
<v Speaker 2>games as well. That's why I when I switch to
<v Speaker 2>game or switch one game even is really popular, that
<v Speaker 2>does tend to pop off pretty hard because everyone's just
<v Speaker 2>taking with them where they may be, or that's the
<v Speaker 2>system that they can fit into or lies a little
<v Speaker 2>bit easier. So it makes sense when something like this
<v Speaker 2>pops off. But way it popped off is still a
<v Speaker 2>little eyebrow raising. That is because you look at the
<v Speaker 2>chart that they have here and you see, yeah, Tomadacci
<v Speaker 2>Life at five hundred and sixty five thousand, Prince's new
<v Speaker 2>it's a new release, and then the next one under
<v Speaker 2>that another new release, Pragmata, but only at thirty six
<v Speaker 2>thousand and Uh. This is just physical I think it
<v Speaker 2>even if you include digital, it's probably just gonna go
<v Speaker 2>even higher, is the funny thing at this point. So
<v Speaker 2>that is very impressive. See people just love this damn game.
<v Speaker 1>Huh Yeah, I mean it's it's one that's like I
<v Speaker 1>think it always fit well with the Japan and Nintendo,
<v Speaker 1>and then it's carried it has fully carried forward that spirit.
<v Speaker 1>It's not like they've rubbed off any of the edges.
<v Speaker 3>There.
<v Speaker 1>There's definitely some features missing, to the point where even
<v Speaker 1>Emmy was like, hey, I noticed something's missing in this
<v Speaker 1>game from when I played on the three DS, and
<v Speaker 1>that's something that's like the big point of contention on
<v Speaker 1>like the Tomadacci life stub reddit. But my like for
<v Speaker 1>stuff like the singing, like the concert hall is in
<v Speaker 1>and there, like, there's no way we can to the
<v Speaker 1>end of this game's updates and we don't get that.
<v Speaker 1>That's my opinion. Maybe I'm wrong. It will be a
<v Speaker 1>mark against this game if that's the case, but my
<v Speaker 1>expectation is we're just waiting for an update to get
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. In the meantime, it feels more alive than
<v Speaker 1>it's ever felt before, more vibrant. Characters are just more interactive.
<v Speaker 1>They have their own houses in a way that's like
<v Speaker 1>you could kind of do that in the three DS version,
<v Speaker 1>but it took some time and it was always if
<v Speaker 1>they were living together. Yeah, it just is the right
<v Speaker 1>game at the right time once again for this company. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>all right, that does it for the headlines, everybody. We
<v Speaker 1>got to get to the poll question from yesterday. Let's
<v Speaker 1>do that right now.
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to.
<v Speaker 1>Refresh get the most recent results from our page over
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube, Are you more interested in game Pass now
<v Speaker 1>that it's cheaper again? I just did yes or no,
<v Speaker 1>wanted to see how anyone interpreted that. Seventy percent say no,
<v Speaker 1>thirty percent say yes. That I mean thirty percent of
<v Speaker 1>people just saying yes, I am more interested now that
<v Speaker 1>it's cheaper. I mean you would expect definitely a bump.
<v Speaker 1>That's a pretty big number. I think, Sean, again, this
<v Speaker 1>is our audience, four thousand votes, But I think our
<v Speaker 1>audience is the exact audience that Microsoft's trying to win
<v Speaker 1>back over with this move, so it could work. Or
<v Speaker 1>do you think this is like a honeymoon phase.
<v Speaker 2>I think people are smart enough to know now that
<v Speaker 2>it is cheaper than it was when they raised the
<v Speaker 2>price an unreasonable amount, it's still higher than it was
<v Speaker 2>them remember paying it for like why close to a
<v Speaker 2>decade that game Pass has existed.
<v Speaker 3>And also like for now right, and it's cheaper for now.
<v Speaker 1>It's like on both sides of that where it's more
<v Speaker 1>expensive than it was when you were really excited about
<v Speaker 1>game Pass remember those days? And now also it's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we've seen how this works. It goes back down in
<v Speaker 1>price for now and then in a couple of years, Wow,
<v Speaker 1>it's back to thirty dollars.
<v Speaker 3>When did that happen?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I was looking at the I was trying to
<v Speaker 2>find the price history. Really bizarrely hard to find, Like
<v Speaker 2>people haven't been keeping track of this as well as
<v Speaker 2>I thought they would. But yeah, ultimately, because game Pass
<v Speaker 2>went from just being game Pass at ten dollars to
<v Speaker 2>then Ultimate existed bundle with gold at fifteen I believe,
<v Speaker 2>I think it was fifteen, then seventeen, than twenty, then thirty,
<v Speaker 2>and now back to is it twenty three? Is twenty
<v Speaker 2>three for Ultimate? Right?
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's right, that's what it is. Okay, twenty three?
<v Speaker 2>Yes, everyone I know. So just like, uh yeah, twenty
<v Speaker 2>three CPRI and thirty bill more expensive than twenty. So
<v Speaker 2>still not happy about that one, so I O. I
<v Speaker 2>think they're gonna give some people happy er, but it's
<v Speaker 2>there's still a little bad will there, unfortunately.
<v Speaker 1>No, the bad will's here at Giant Bomb. Everybody, make
<v Speaker 1>sure you love the will. All right, let's see here,
<v Speaker 1>new poll question. Let's just do that now. Are you
<v Speaker 1>more excited about Yoshi and the Mysterious Book after the previews?
<v Speaker 3>Yes?
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not reading all that, as in, you're just
<v Speaker 1>not going to read the previews. But yeah, we'll get
<v Speaker 1>your results. Talk about it here on Game Mess Mornings
<v Speaker 1>on Giant Bomb tomorrow to wrap up the week.
<v Speaker 3>Speaking of Giant Bomb, Sean.
<v Speaker 1>We got let's see it, is it Thursday? It's Thursday, right,
<v Speaker 1>voicemail dumb Truck. But we're going to be doing a
<v Speaker 1>talkover right there is that? Yeah, the the Idea x Yes, yes,
<v Speaker 1>the Idea Xbox thing. We're going to talk over. That
<v Speaker 1>Assassin's Creed thing will have happened by then. We might
<v Speaker 1>like talk about that as we get set up for
<v Speaker 1>this show or something everybody, but we're not going to
<v Speaker 1>talk over the Assassin's Creed thing. So one pm Eastern
<v Speaker 1>we'll be back for the ide at Xbox, talk about
<v Speaker 1>some indie games.
<v Speaker 3>Always love to do that.
<v Speaker 1>Then two thirty pm is Voicemail dumb Truck, and then
<v Speaker 1>Marry Me Tomodacci is going to be after that. So
<v Speaker 1>it's a busy day here at gibomb and.
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Mike would be remiss if you didn't mention it's
<v Speaker 2>a very special voicemail dump Truck.
<v Speaker 1>It's a very special voicemail dump truck. Everybody Matt nick
<v Speaker 1>Muscles is going to be on the show.
<v Speaker 3>If you're not familiar.
<v Speaker 1>He's a very excellent YouTuber from the fighting game community
<v Speaker 1>and a bunch of other stuff.
<v Speaker 3>He knows his shit.
<v Speaker 1>It's always worth I would say just go watch his
<v Speaker 1>most recent video because they're always good. But his most
<v Speaker 1>recent one is about virtual Boy and what Happened. What
<v Speaker 1>happened is well, So can I ask you do you
<v Speaker 1>know the origin of because I think I do, but
<v Speaker 1>I could be wrong.
<v Speaker 3>I wonder if there's like a one that you know.
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was just Matt being silly when he
<v Speaker 2>originally came up with because I don't know when the
<v Speaker 2>Mickey Mouse will Happen actually happened. But yeah, I know
<v Speaker 2>he's used it in the videos before.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, because I was like, I'm like, that's from the
<v Speaker 1>Mickey Mouse cartoons my kids watch, but Mick Mickey MOUs
<v Speaker 1>is going, well, happen on and there's so many great
<v Speaker 1>quotes from that cartoon.
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, Okay, Matt mcmussle's cool dude. He knows what's up.
<v Speaker 3>Uh all right, Yeah, that's again. That's two thirty Today.
<v Speaker 1>Hang out for that it's going to be a fun one,
<v Speaker 1>all right, and you're producing everything today, right, so.
<v Speaker 3>Busy, yes, sir, Well, let's let's get you out of here.
<v Speaker 1>Then Sean tell people they could find you on the
<v Speaker 1>internet and all that good stuff.
<v Speaker 2>Burbo Shawn everywhere, Sahawn. Like I mentioned, I got the
<v Speaker 2>Twist streams going once again on the weekend Saturdays and
<v Speaker 2>Sundays at noon Eastern and you'd find me playing for
<v Speaker 2>now some retro achievement games, which is, in other words,
<v Speaker 2>just a chill, hangout, let's play kind of thing if
<v Speaker 2>you want to just hang out, chit chat while I
<v Speaker 2>play some WI games for the moment, made similar stuff
<v Speaker 2>in the future. Uh. And then yeah, Herbo Shawn on
<v Speaker 2>Blue Sky and everywhere else as well.
<v Speaker 3>Excellent.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you Seandring hanging out with me today and talking
<v Speaker 1>about video games. Man, I really appreciate it.
<v Speaker 2>Always a good time, Jeff.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you all for watching and listening. You are the
<v Speaker 1>best audience in gaming. Until next time, have a good one,
<v Speaker 1>take care of yourself and goodbye.