Live! from President's Circle in Orlando

Advocacy Scoop Podcast

Live from the stage in Orlando, Shannon and Patrick explore the "Magic Kingdom" of advocacy, including the latest on tax reform, the new appointments at HUD, FHFA, Labor, and the CFPB - and what the advocacy team is doing to build relationships with the new members of Congress and the Administration in this new, fast-paced policy making world.

2025-03-07 23 min Transcript

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- Welcome to a very special edition

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of the advocacy Scoop
podcast, where we are pleased

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to be coming live from Orlando.

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- We do want to talk a little
bit about President Circle,

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and I know everyone here knows
what the program's all about,

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but we have some listeners
that might not know about it

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and might want to get
on the track to join.

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So tell, tell us a little
bit about, about PC

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and some of the latest stats.

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- Sure. Well, first off,
I do wanna mention that

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with very kind introductions from the,

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the voice of God here.

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But Patrick Newton has
had a promotion recently

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and just yesterday was announced
as our new Vice President

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of Advocacy, communications and outreach.

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So a round of applause for Patrick.

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Patrick also is the one who
makes me do this podcast,

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which shows why he is the right guy

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to be running our communications
and all of our outreach.

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So congratulations there. Alright,

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- So tell us, we're,

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we're at about 1600
people in PC this year.

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- 1600? Yeah. All right.

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Well, I know because we
ran out of chairs earlier,

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so apologies for those of
you who were looking for it.

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So we had around 1100 members
as the goal for the year,

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but last year we hit 140% of that goal.

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So hopefully we'll be able to top that.

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But because I don't do math,
Patrick did this math for me,

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out of the 530,000 RPAC investors, so

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that's roughly the population
of Atlanta, 530,000.

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We have 1600 members currently.

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So you all aren't the 1%,
but you're the 3% of the

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- 0.3%
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Yeah. Yeah. 0.3%. Sorry.

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You are the 0.3 percenters
of, of who we have

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as our investors and what
you do with this program

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and what you do with those contributions

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that you are making directly

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to a bipartisan slate of candidates.

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As we heard from the videos,

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as we heard from the two
members who were here yesterday,

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they come up to the advocacy team

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and say like, Hey, how do I get on

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that President's Cup Golden Circle thing?

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You know? And they, they,

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they talk about it back in
dc It has become a program

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that other organizations, they
don't even try to replicate

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because it's, it's so
difficult for them to do

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- That.

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Yeah. Thank you for being here.

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And we, we had some awesome
PC speakers here in person

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yesterday, of course, Luke Reya

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and Katie Britt to, to New faves of ours.

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- Senator Britt has been like texting me.

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Oh my gosh, that was absolutely amazing.

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Thank you for thinking of it.

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I know Congressman Correa,
when they come out here

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and actually see this program,

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it just makes a huge difference

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and we're striving to do more.

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One of the things that President
Circle program over the

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last couple of years
since the pandemic, is

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that we've actually been
going out to the states

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and having in-person
events in their district,

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in their state with all of you, so

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that we can help them get
those numbers, get to goal,

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and then have that face-to-face contact.

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- Well, well, president Circle
talk, we do want to get,

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so last year on the podcast
we did a lot of primers,

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so we kind of wanted,
went through each part

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of n NA's advocacy operation and,

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and sort of explained it to, so

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that our members can know all the things

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that Shannon's magical kingdom.

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See, I got another Disney joke
in your, your Magical Kingdom

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and advocacy does, because
there's, there's just so much.

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This year we're trying to focus a

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little bit more on current events.

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So when we do wanna talk
about what's been going on in

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Washington, especially the last 30 days,

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but let's just check in on
like our federal priorities,

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because we do have, we do, we've sort

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of refreshed those recently.

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- So we're talking about tomorrow
land or fantasy land here.

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Which one is it? So, so

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as you all are aware,
as advocacy pros here,

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we have our legislative initiatives

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that we push out every year.

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And congratulations to Patrick

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and his team for last month,

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putting together our
first ever advocacy week

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that combined our realtor
party training conference,

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our public policy coordinating
committee, FPC training.

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Do we have any FPCs in the house? Woo.

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Federal political coordinators.

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And if you don't know that, I don't,

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I'm, I'm impressed you're here.

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But for our FPC training

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and also our policy summit,
which ended the week,

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we had about 900 folks in
DC and the reviews are back.

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I think you got a, I think
you got five stars, Patrick.

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- Yeah, well, you know, it's,

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it's like everybody left the conference.

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I was like, five stars. Five stars,

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- Five stars,
- Like when I get out of my Uber.

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But yeah, it was, it was like four

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and a half out of five was the, was the,

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- Which is the highest that
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of events, including the, the

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realtor party training conference.

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And so during that event,
we unveiled our, another one

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of your, your passion
projects fly in.realtor,

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where we include all

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of our legislative priorities
going into the year.

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So FPCs met with their
members of Congress.

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We have had these meetings
ongoing with the advocacy team.

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Last year we had 5,000 different meetings

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or contacts, but between
our advocacy team and FPCs

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and folks around the country,

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and we are hitting the
ground running this year,

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we've already met with all 72

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of the brand new members of Congress.

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We've already had meetings
with the transition team

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for the White House, for hud,

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for FHFA and others.

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So these are all important
things that we're doing.

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But the, the key is
what are those policies

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that we are fighting for

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with these connections that we have?

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And so the first one

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that you heard from
our speakers yesterday,

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and you're all aware of
the expiring provisions

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of the Tax Cut and Jobs Act,

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I worked at the Treasury department

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and that's, you know, that
was seemed like forever ago.

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And now we're right back into it.

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And these are the key
provisions that we're going

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to make sure either don't expire

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or that are changed as we move forward.

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So that includes Inc asking for provisions

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that would impact housing
supply and bring down costs.

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We know that there are likely

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to be multiple bites at the
Apple with the tax bill,

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the ones that they have to keep,

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and then the ones that
they strive to add onto it.

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But we have things like the
more homes on the Market act

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that would decrease the capital
gains penalty that you have

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for selling investment property.

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And that would incentivize
more folks to sell homes

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and potentially get more owner
occupants into those homes.

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We have the supporting
the revitalizing downtowns

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and Main Streets Act that I spoke

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with Senator Britt about yesterday.

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That's the commercial conversion.

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Converting them into residential units

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and having tax credits
to spur that growth,

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that Neighborhood Homes Investment Act

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that we have long supported

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and has long had bipartisan support,

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but just needs that little
bit extra effort in the Senate

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to get it through the committee.

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And then they support,

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we also support the Yes in
My Backyard, the YIMBY Act,

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which had near unanimous
support in the House

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of Representatives last year,

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but still hasn't gotten
over that finish line.

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So these are the asks that
we have when we're meeting

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with members of Congress to
support these bills, to serve

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as co-sponsors and to push

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that they actually move
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- Process.

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Well, speaking of meeting
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and you just said this a second
ago, last year, 5,000 plus

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meetings with members of Congress

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and their staff between the
lobby team and our FPCs.

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We were doing the math
on that, it's like 14 a

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day on average.

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I mean, there's no other organization

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period that can pull that

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- For just 14 meetings a
day. Yeah, right. Two can

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- Have.

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Well, and stellar, you know,
we, we, we broke that up

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as well because your
advocacy dues, what was it,

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like $6 a month?

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- About $70 a year

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that goes specifically
from NAR dues into the

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advocacy efforts.

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And I don't, I have the back
of the envelope map, I think

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that was about 17, like six a
month cents a day or something

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- For
- All these advocacy efforts. Drop

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- $6 a month and, and all of her efforts.

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And, and speaking of all
those meetings, like one

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of the things that came out of
those meetings last year was

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the real estate caucus and caucuses.

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You know, we both worked
in the, in the house

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as congressional staff and,
and there's lots of caucuses

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and you know, it's
different than a committee.

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You have to register a caucus,
it has to be bipartisan.

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They have to, you know, it has
to be a group of, you know,

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people, members of the house

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who have like a common mission or goal.

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And so we've been working

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to get this real estate
caucus introduced for a couple

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of years, and last year we did it.

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- Exactly, so during the
legislative meetings last year in

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May, we worked with members of Congress

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to unveil the introduction
of the Real Estate Caucus

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that started with four
members, two Republicans,

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two Democrats, including
Congressman Correa,

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who you met yesterday.

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And it is expanded, it did expand

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to 52 at the end of last year.

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And we just had three more members join.

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So we're at 55 members of
the Real Estate Caucus now.

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But what's important is not
just the why it was created,

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which is to ensure that even
if you're not on a committee

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that is directly handling
real estate issues,

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that's primarily the House
Financial Services Committee

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where I used to work or the
Senate Banking Committee

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or the Tax Writing Committees.

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But there could be folks
on other committees

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who have a background
in real estate and they,

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or a passion in real estate
and they want to hear more.

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And they're looking for
information like the great research

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that Dr. Lawrence Yoon
and his team put together.

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So it's not just that's the
why and that's the when or

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or the, the who belongs to it.

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But the, when this was developed
in spring of last year,

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maybe some conversations at a
tiki bar, ask Ryan Rusal about

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that later at the hotel bar.

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But it was developed over the spring

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and then it was launched

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during the legislative meetings in May.

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During that time, we had a
massive class action settlement.

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We were in the news

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and there were, are, there were other

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factors that were involved.

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And we found that these
members of Congress said,

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let's get this done.

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Now we understand there's
misinformation out there about the

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industry and we understand that,

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that we have these relationships

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and that we can go out there

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and help to better explain
this to our colleagues.

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So the fact that that came
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I think is very significant.

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- Well, let's, let's move on now.

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'cause we we're about 30 days plus

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into the new administration.

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It, it feels a little bit like 30 years

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and a lot has happened
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There's been a lot of new secretaries

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and, and, and directors
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And so let's sort of popcorn through these

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'cause we're, you know, don't
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but we've issued a lot
of letterers of support

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and for some of these, these folks.

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So tell us about the, the
new HU secretary first.

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- Sure, sure. So this is
a, a, a season two of the,

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the Trump administration.

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And so we have a lot of references

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and relationships from, from season one.

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as a new HUD secretary.

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He did work in the White House
previously on the opportunity

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zones initiatives and
wealth building areas.

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And so we have great
relationships through many

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of our, our former colleagues.

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And then he went on to
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and he Texans here who Oh,

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oh, that's kind of like a
plurality of the, so, so, okay.

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So heard from our, our, our folks in Texas

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that they had a great relationship with

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Scott Turner back there.

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So we did a letter to support him.

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And so he has come out

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with some pretty significant
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and this is happening across the board

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and I know we'll, we'll we'll get

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to all of those issues too.

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And so we have had some
communications with HUD officials

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and others saying, these
are our priorities.

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We want to make sure that
Fair Housing is being enforced

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and it's being enforced
with in a way that is

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not going to be diminished
because of these cuts.

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And that the staff who we
work with at the, at FHA and

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and others, that this isn't
going to impact the ability

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of people to, to buy and sell homes.

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And so they have been hearing

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that we are tracking these
staff cuts very closely

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to monitor the impact
that it will have on any

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of the public policy or, or
the programs that we work with.

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So we, I had the opportunity to meet

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with Mr. Turner about a month or so ago.

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And so he has, he's very excited

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to develop this relationship as well.

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- Nice. Let's check in an
FHFA, this is an important one

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'cause Fannie and Freddie Regulator,

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- Fannie and Freddie Regulat.

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So I did meet with, so
Bill Pulte is the nominee

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and he's going through
that confirmation process

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and I did meet with him while
we were in line together

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for about three hours
in at an inaugural ball.

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Oh. It was quite the show.

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We, people were waiting in
line in the freezing cold full

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black tie strappy shoes and it
was like 12 degrees outside.

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So anybody who went to the
inauguration and got Yep.

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Did you make it in? Made it in. Okay.

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I know many people who didn't,

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but I did get an opportunity to hang out

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with Bill Pulte there.

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And so he comes from a real
estate development background.

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I had worked on economic
revitalization in Detroit.

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We have great relationships with the staff

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and his transition team.

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And so we have put together
a letter of support for him.

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And one of the key areas,

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and I I think Lawrence
hit on this earlier,

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is if there is a change in how Fannie

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and Freddie the, to the larger
GSEs are handled, you know,

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they've been in conservatorship
since the financial crisis.

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But our, our concern is
that if we are doing this,

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that we have our eyes wide open on

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what are those market implications

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and that the number one priority
is that there is no change

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to the 30 year fixed rate mortgage

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that has guaranteed more
people having access to a home

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and having access to
equity than anything else

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that's happened in our
housing finance system.

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- Alright. Secretary of Labor,

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we have a good relationship here.

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- Fantastic relationship.

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So this Lori Chavez Reamer,
who is a former member

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of Congress from the
great state of Oregon.

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Any Oregonians here, Jenny got
your folks here. Fantastic.

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We have a fantastic relationship

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with the former
congresswoman in her office.

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And so she called me up

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and said, Hey, I'm having a meeting

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with President-elect Trump

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and I would like to be able
to say that if nominated

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for the Department of
Labor, that I'll have the

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support of the realtors.

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And I said, well, I don't know
who else could be nominated.

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You know, we could have somebody here,

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but yes, if you are the one
who is nominated, we have

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that fantastic relationship
that you will have the support

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of your National Association of Realtors.

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Chavez Dreamer is very well respected

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in the labor community.

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Her dad is a teamster.

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She had the support of the
teamsters, met her dad.

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He's fantastic. So we have
to look at the whole of what

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that person is standing for

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and that she has fully supported n ar

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and our ability to maintain

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that independent contractor status.

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And we're very excited to work with

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her as this moves forward.

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We actually think she might get some

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more democratic support.

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- Oh, nice. You're do you,
do you ever get one of those

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popups on your, on your
phone that tells you

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how much screen time?

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- Oh, are, are we sharing
screen time right now, Patrick?

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- No, I just wanted, like,
she, you run this whole

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place off of your phone.

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It's, it is like, it's just blowing up all

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the time with people and it,

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- It's about 20 hours a day of screen time

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that I, I have on my phone.

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- So quickly.

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Let's just CFPB, we did a
letter of support there, right?

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- Letter of support there.
We've had a long relationship

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with Jonathan McKernan
from, from his staff days,

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and he's at the FDIC right now.

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And this is one of those areas

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where the CFPB has an
interim director right now

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who I've known and worked
with for many, many years.

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And we had an issue come up as
soon as there was a directive

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that went out for CFPB

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to basically a stop work
order while we're waiting

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for somebody to come in to just pens down.

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This one was more extreme
than what we've heard before,

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but it's not atypical when an
administration changes from

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one president to the other

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and they're waiting for a
cabinet official to come in

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for folks to say anything
that you're working on, slow,

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slow it down and let's wait
until we have somebody in here

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to help maybe redirect it or end it.

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Or oftentimes what they wanna
do is just make some changes

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and then take full credit for it.

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So we're used to that.

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And so one issue that came up is

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that if they do this stop
work order, that there's a,

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a program called a POR, AP OR that is a,

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a report that comes out on a weekly

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basis, I think twice a week.

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And there was a chance that
that would not come out.

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And so all the trade
associations are drafting these

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strongly worded letters

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and saying, you know, this
is why, you know, we have

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to, we have to change this.

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And said, we can do that,
that it, that's needed.

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If we think that this is
that severe of an issue,

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however, we can also make
a couple phone calls.

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And we made a couple phone
calls and that report went out.

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They realized that that was
needed for, for folks to be able

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to access their mortgage

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and to be able to close on their homes.

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So when you actually get into
the, to the policy makers

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and you explain the consequences,

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and you do so in a way that
is respecting that they are,

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they have their own process and things,

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typically those things can happen very

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quickly. And we've seen that so far

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- And I, you know, that's,
that's where you're so great and,

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and our advocacy operation is so great

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because we don't just,
you know, fire off letters

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and statements, you
know, condemning things.

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It's like you are always
working the phones.

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I mean, I make a joke about
how much you're on the phone,

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but I mean, you're, you,
you pick up the phone,

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your phone every day and solve problems

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and get through to people
who are making the decisions.

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And that is what it's all about.

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It's so many other organizations
do, do not do that.

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- I think you all know a thing

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or two about picking up the phone and,

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and having those relationships.

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And then, and, and letters
are a very effective tool

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and we are the most
transparent organization.

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You can go on our advocacy
resources on the website

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and see every letter
that we have sent out,

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but oftentimes letters are
looked at as a press release.

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You're, you're, you're
pushing that information out

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to the public, but you're not
necessarily getting it done.

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What we've also really
increased is the use

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of our Washington reports.

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If you see that on our, on our
website, we will have weekly,

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if not near daily updates on

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what are these different
administration changes

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that are happening, how we're responding

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to it, are we monitoring it?

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Is this something that we
think we need immediate action?

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But as we have the beginning
days of this administration,

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we're making sure those
relationships are solidified

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and that those, that
communication's happening,

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- We're keeping an eye on the,
on the budget cuts and the,

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and the is it do, do, I
don't know. How do you say

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- It? I don't know how you say it either.

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- Yeah, I don't either. But we,

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we did put out a short
Washington report on that Yep.

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To address it. But you're
keeping an eye on, on all that

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and, and working with the agencies

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- And making calls.

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We made some phone calls
when the Office of Management

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and Budget said, we're going
to stop all federal funding.

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It was a kind of an oddly
worded memo that went out.

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I said, I don't think that
this is constitutional

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or this is accurate, but
let's see what the intent was.

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Again, made a couple phone calls.

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They revoked that memo,
did a clarification.

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None of our programs were
touched. All was good.

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- Alright, well we do want

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to spend some time on the tax reform bill

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because that's obviously one

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of the most consequential things.

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We'll, we'll have, we, you
know, we follow the news

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and politics and, and,

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and they're using this
process called reconciliation.

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And, and, and as the
president likes to say,

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it's one big beautiful bill.

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I, you know, there's somebody
back there that can do

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that way better than I can.

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- You know, Patrick, I
think this is a fantastic,

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fantastic conference.

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I really enjoy it. You
know, I love my plan

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and I love my one big beautiful bill.

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You know, people are saying
it's tremendous. It really is.

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Right? Well, it's gonna be great.

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It's gonna be having a
lot of beautiful things

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and we're gonna have my no tax on tips

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and, you know, maybe I think
I have a brand new idea.

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I don't know, what do you all
think? No Tax on commissions?

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How about that? Yeah.

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- Oh, Ryan. Oh, that wasn't
President Trump that it was.

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- Oh, you guys want me
to come out on stage?

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I say say, okay, well this is,

492
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I didn't know this was happening, so,

493
00:19:46,290 --> 00:19:47,290
- All right.

494
00:19:47,290 --> 00:19:48,090
Ryan Rus Bolt

495
00:19:48,090 --> 00:19:49,500
who was upset he didn't get any stage

496
00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:50,805
time apparently. So, you

497
00:19:50,805 --> 00:19:51,925
- Know, I gotta say, I think

498
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,510
you all are really, really
fantastic and beautiful people.

499
00:19:57,510 --> 00:19:58,830
I think that, you know, I really love you.

500
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,770
Well, you know, I let
those smarter people talk

501
00:20:01,770 --> 00:20:02,850
and I'm gonna actually go back,

502
00:20:02,850 --> 00:20:04,350
I didn't actually know
it was coming up here,

503
00:20:04,350 --> 00:20:05,700
so this is a little bit embarrassing.

504
00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:06,700
So say,

505
00:20:08,100 --> 00:20:09,245
- Well thank you Ryan.

506
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,260
- Every time I say big beautiful Bill,

507
00:20:16,260 --> 00:20:19,380
or read it in my mind, I'm
hearing Ryan, Russ Bolt say it so

508
00:20:19,380 --> 00:20:22,320
- Well after that
performance, Ryan, I need you

509
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,490
to open up your laptop

510
00:20:23,490 --> 00:20:26,460
and send me five things that
you did at work last week

511
00:20:30,900 --> 00:20:32,160
- For those
- No one else does. Just Ryan,

512
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,860
- For those of you that
don't know Ryan, he's our

513
00:20:34,860 --> 00:20:37,685
lead on our, on our
Republican house lobbying and,

514
00:20:37,685 --> 00:20:42,210
and is is awesome and
hilarious at the same time.

515
00:20:42,210 --> 00:20:46,350
So, and is beloved by many
members of Congress because

516
00:20:46,350 --> 00:20:47,810
- He has hang out with him, competitions

517
00:20:47,810 --> 00:20:49,510
with members on like who
can do the best Trump boys.

518
00:20:49,510 --> 00:20:52,570
Yeah. It's actually quite the
bonding experience, but yes.

519
00:20:52,570 --> 00:20:54,760
Well, Ryan, you should be
monitoring the floor right now

520
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:59,050
because we do have the first
budget bill coming to the floor

521
00:20:59,050 --> 00:21:00,460
for a 6:00 PM vote today.

522
00:21:00,460 --> 00:21:02,440
So we're getting real
time updates on whether

523
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,640
or not those votes exist.

524
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,850
I worked in congressional
leadership long enough

525
00:21:06,850 --> 00:21:08,230
to know you don't call the vote if you

526
00:21:08,230 --> 00:21:09,340
don't think you have the votes.

527
00:21:09,340 --> 00:21:12,730
So that'll be the first
tranche of this to see. That

528
00:21:12,730 --> 00:21:14,411
- Includes,
- That's tonight, right?

529
00:21:14,411 --> 00:21:15,580
That's tonight. Six o'clock
is when they're expecting it.

530
00:21:15,580 --> 00:21:18,400
So they're expect that's the 4.5 trillion

531
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,780
to spend on tax cuts.

532
00:21:19,780 --> 00:21:21,760
4 trillion increase and the debt limit

533
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,900
and then the 1.4 trillion in
spending cuts over 10 years.

534
00:21:25,900 --> 00:21:29,170
What the president did campaign
on is the no tax on tips,

535
00:21:29,170 --> 00:21:33,820
no tax on Social security
and fixing the salt problem.

536
00:21:33,820 --> 00:21:35,560
And we do have a SALT caucus,

537
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,690
which has great overlap
with the real estate caucus.

538
00:21:37,690 --> 00:21:40,930
You knew, and those are the
areas that we would expect them

539
00:21:40,930 --> 00:21:43,150
to address in this first tranche for sure.

540
00:21:43,150 --> 00:21:45,970
- Yeah. So we're, we're on top of that.

541
00:21:45,970 --> 00:21:48,040
You guys have been working on
that for, for several years

542
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,155
and we've got all of our,

543
00:21:49,155 --> 00:21:51,040
our tax information on at flying realtor,

544
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,080
but the clock is ticking down for me.

545
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,380
So that means you get to give
us this closing time here,

546
00:21:56,380 --> 00:21:57,880
you get to give us the scoop on something

547
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,585
and this is some brand new information.

548
00:21:59,585 --> 00:22:04,090
- So we are always monitoring
what is the intensity of our,

549
00:22:04,090 --> 00:22:06,790
our membership and the
activity of our membership.

550
00:22:06,790 --> 00:22:09,910
And we just got the data
back on voter turnout

551
00:22:09,910 --> 00:22:12,640
for realtors in the 2024 election.

552
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,580
Based on that, we have 89%

553
00:22:15,580 --> 00:22:19,270
of our realtor members voted
far surpassing the national

554
00:22:19,270 --> 00:22:21,760
average of 64%.

555
00:22:26,410 --> 00:22:27,820
That level of participation,

556
00:22:27,820 --> 00:22:29,410
we heard this from the senator yesterday,

557
00:22:29,410 --> 00:22:30,760
we heard this from our,

558
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,640
our guests throughout the
last couple of days, is

559
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,840
that it's not just that
we are here to invest,

560
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,210
but that we show up at the ballot box

561
00:22:40,210 --> 00:22:42,820
and that we get people to
show up at the ballot box.

562
00:22:42,820 --> 00:22:45,760
And so those numbers are, are fantastic.

563
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,090
I don't understand why they
are not a hundred percent,

564
00:22:49,090 --> 00:22:51,310
but, so you would ask
that, we're gonna make sure

565
00:22:51,310 --> 00:22:53,080
that we're working on those
numbers, getting those up

566
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,550
to 90, 91%.

567
00:22:54,550 --> 00:22:57,580
But those engaged citizens
are what's making all

568
00:22:57,580 --> 00:22:59,620
of the difference and we
appreciate your leadership.

569
00:22:59,620 --> 00:23:03,070
- Yeah. So nine nine outta 10
realtors cast ballot in the

570
00:23:03,070 --> 00:23:05,560
last election and six outta 10 for

571
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,520
- Yep.

572
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,500
- The average American. Yep.
So we're ahead of the game.

573
00:23:08,500 --> 00:23:09,700
- Your vote matters.
- Awesome.

574
00:23:09,700 --> 00:23:11,530
- Vote matters.
- Well, thank you very much, Shannon.

575
00:23:11,530 --> 00:23:11,985
- Well thank you Patrick.

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