#270 - No. 1 Songs with Only 1 Writer + Jameson Rodgers In Studio On How Luke Combs Discovered His Music + Having a debut No. 1 Song + Best New Music Releases of the Week!

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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode two hundred and seventy. We will talk to Jamison Rogers. Got a number one song, got a really cool story, so hang out for that. Also number one songs with just one writer, which is a rare thing. Now Eddie comes in to talk with me about that. Let's get to the new music Top five though. At number five on my list of new music, I'm excited about food Fighters have a new song called Shame Shame. I love food Fighters, just pumped about that. Number four. Thomas Repp put out a new song earlier this week that you may have heard. It's called What's Your Country Song? Bad a Story? They have a bad Kaylee Shore has a new song called Lying to Myself, which I'm putting at number three. At number two, Shannon do I have a new album with a lot of features on. You may know them from the nineties nineties country music Awesome. They have a new album called Every Road and this is every Time I Look At You with Lady An Catch You. And they also have a new song that came out today called make It Summertime with Luke Brian and here's the clip of that. If I can make it two summer Time, I gotta spot down for a blanket nade the Georgia Pine. And finally, my number one is obviously christ Appleton's new album called Starting Over. It features well starting Over, It'll be myvel, Holy Arkansas Down, I'm Sorry, and a new song called Maggie's on What You Told Us? He wrote about his dog who passed away, and here's a clip of that. Be pretty. Those are my favorite five happening this week. Other new songs, there's a band called out Skirts who I like. They have a new song for the Tennessee Titans called Get Loud, Tightened Up. I wanted to feature that. Kelsey Ballerini put a Hole in the Bottle featuring Shania Twain, so this is already hit, but Shania is on it now here's the club of that. And Little nos X has a new Christmas song called Holiday Albums and EPs a C d C Eastern Corbin Josh Abbott band playing White Teas, Cranberries, Elton John. That's a Rarity's box set all with music out So if you're looking for new music, go get it. There's a lot. This is actually a good week. Last week's sock this week is better. This week great. There's also a podcast called Vets you Should Know. It's a four part podcast series. I'm hosting it. I talked with remarkable vets and learn about their struggles, their accomplishments while enlisted and beyond. So check out Vets you Should Know, Proud of it, Love our Vets on the I Heart Radio app or wherever you listen to your podcast. Wherever you listen to on right now you can find it. Just search for Vets you Should Know and check it out. Music News that that uh, Eric Church wins Entertainer of the Year at the c M as Marion Morris also One Big and Luke Combs also won a couple of spots too, so congratulations to them. The Eric Church Entertainer of the the Year was well deserved. I don't think you're gonna have anyone that argues that he didn't deserve it, So congratulations to Eric Church. This Phil Collins story, him and his ex wife are going at it. Man. It's getting dirty because they were married and divorced and married again, and now she's saying that he stinks, and now they're dropping personally from me. It's just the whole sour situation. His ex claims that Phil was depressed, with drawn and abusive due to a recent back surgery. He was abusing alcohol, paint killers and a depressants, and he stunk and he smelled. That's over the line. It's harsh. You gotta add the smell thing. No truth to Florida Georgia Lamb breakup rumors. I never thought they were breaking up. I didn't think they are pretty bus at each other. Though. You don't unfollow someone on Instagram unless you're really mad. Otherwise you just let it go and you don't only care that much. Morgan Wallen, Brian Kelly and more want tours to start after seeing victory celebrations. Here's the thing that's the dumbest thing. First of all, the people shouldn't be out cramming together. But that also doesn't mean you should have shows. They're both wrong, so you shouldn't have shows because one group people are doing something dumb. You can't look at something to go, well, they're doing something dumb. We want to do something dumb. That's not how it works. They're doing something dumb. Also, that's not a sanctioned thing. There's no promoter underwriting it. Dealing with lawsuits, which not a bunch of people walking out of their house and doing stuff for that. So I to see Chase Rice sand stuff. I like it. Don't be a dummy. It's not the same thing, but they're both. We just want this to go away. The best way to get it to go away is to chill out for a bit. We don't need to start having shows and make it worse. Right now. I can't wait for shows. I can't wait for Ticketmaster to do that. Prove that you have had a test or a vaccine, you can go to a show. It's gonna be great. Yeah, the whole Brian Kelly, Chase Rise, even Morgan Waler. We're gonna have shows because they're together. No, don't be a numb nut. They shouldn't be together, and you shouldn't have shows right now. But we're about to get there. It's about to get close finally. American Idol sets early debut on ABC February fourteenth. I'll be there. I'll be on that show. I like that. It's a good show. That show pays me money, very good show, very good show. That shows my favorite show. That's it. That's your music news, Thank you very much. We're gonna talk about number one country songs with just one writer rare, very rare, because I think back in the day that's what people did. They just got a guitar, piano and wrote a song. But in the Land to Nashville and even in pop music now, it's such a everybody get together, a cumulative effort to write a song because maybe somebody's good at the melody, which is like da do du dudune, what's that? I don't know that on no place? But you don't have the words, but you just have the melody. Maybe then you have a great lyricst melody makers. Maybe then you have to can make a track while you're there on the fly. So a number one song with one songwriters very much becoming a thing in the past. Back in the seventies, of number one songs had a single song writ in the two thousand tents, only four percent did. So far this year, no number one songs have had one songwriter. Yeah, it's it's kind of uh like, it's not recommended to songwriters really, Like, you know a lot of people are just like and I think it takes away from the confidence of a songwriter to like, I bet a bunch of these songwriters today bones could probably write number one hits, but the confidence isn't there anymore because they're used to doing it with two other people or three other people, or if I can throw a different approach, they can write a song faster with three people. And if you have three songs, the odds of them catching are better than one. Sure, you're only getting thirty of the pay, but the odds that it goes number one anyway isn't good. So I don't know what what the reason is. It's just another way because I think, you know, Shane mcinni, I can write down, sit down and write a number one song himself, but he probably also is using all his ideas all the time, and other people are bringing ideas in the room and he's like, oh yeah, I can help with this a lot too. So anyway, let's go to this. According to Billboard, it's a thing of the past, but we're gonna look at some of them. The last song written by just one person to reach number one was Ed Sheeran's Perfect BB. It reached number one in December. That's the last one. The last song written by a solitary female songwriter was Alicia Keys Fallen, and that's two thousand one. This her first song too. That's why I kind of long start Fleetwood Max Dreams, which has been big for a long time, but it's back popular again. It just hopped into the charts again because of the TikTok video. It was written by Stevie Nicks. Is that one person? Turn that out there? So let's take a look at the biggest number one songs written by just one songwriter in each decade since the fifties. In the nineteen fifties, Frankie Avalon's Venus, written by him, spent five weeks at number one. Do you know the song out here for Love by Have Two Men? As long as fleet Cha the nineteen sixties, two hundred and three singles reached number one of the sixties fifty eight and then we're written by just one person, So you're looking at about a quarter of those songs. Back in the sixties, the longest running number one of the decade that was written by just one writer was Percy Fate's instrumental The Theme from a Summer Place. I love this song. That's a real song. There's just no words to it. Interesting. Turn it up. I'm Jane, I'm bobbing my head. Yeah, that slaps uh. The longest running number one that had lyrics and music was by The Monkeys. I'm a Believer. Do you know who wrote that? Jones? Turn it up? Neil freaking Diamond. Oh God, you know what I think? I didn't know that. I spent seven weeks at number one, wrote that by himself. I'm in Loo made real popular by Shrek smash Mountha. That's right, thank you, smash Mouth. In the nineties seventies, almost half the songs were written by just one songwriter. The longest running number one of that decade was written by just one writer, Debbie Boon's You Light Up My Life, written by Joe Brooks. I mean that one song and Joe Brooks a lot of money event ten weeks at number one. How crappy was music that? That was number one for ten weeks. I didn't know you. I didn't think you're gonna go there. But yeah, okay, there's there was, But there was so much good music in the late seven In the nineteen eighties, again almost half were written by just one artist. The number one written by Lionel Ritchie Is, Diana Ross and Lionel Richie Endless Love which I Love the song, and it sounds very similar to the Debbi Bons song. I think you know, maybe it's just what you grew up and you heard, because obviously I was born close to this, but and also I love Lionel, so maybe I'm a little biased. Okay, well the nine did you start to see it fall? But a quarter of songs again. The longest You're Gonna Like This one, the longest running number one in the decade, was written by just one writer. There's a tie, but one of the writers was Dolly Parton what song I Will Always Love You at Whitney Houston talk about some money being made wise in the seventies and then just cash money in amazing feeling. That makes me think Dolly's rich. You think The other one that tied for fourteen weeks boys two Men's I'll Make Love to You with Mariah Carrett. No, no no, just the once weekday is Marike Carey. I'll Make ve to You was written by baby Face. Really fourteen weeks and the two thousands people started to go, all right, we're not that good and we need help with friends. Just invite all our friends over and wrote a song. There were a hundred and twenty nine number one is only eight We're written by just one person. The longest running number one of the decade written by one single person was written by Andre three thousand. Okay, what do you think it is? I think I know this? Is this a No? It's um. I don't know why I'm saying crazy, but it's no. I don't know. You're you're in You're kind of in the right spot. It's not crazy, but it's a it's a title kind of like that. It's kind of funny. No, give it to me who was on three thousand? Yeah, he's from uh outcast right now? What's the biggest outcast song for radio? Hey? Correct? Is this album? If I'm remembering correctly, was speaker Box in the Love Below And it was each of them doing their own albums, so they were still outcast, but it was a double album and they h in their own things and this was and I didn't realize that. Okay, that makes sense. I was an outcast guy. Yeah, he was the only guy big boy? Is it? Big Boy? I saw him once in Austin the two thousand ten same thing. Not many. Uh. The number one of the decade that was written by one writer was written by Calvin Harris, and it was Calvin Harris and Rihanna. We Found Love and Tied with It was written by Ferrell Williams. Happy Here you go. Big money on that one and don't have a single one of them er percent. Some of the biggest number one country songs over the past fifty years. One writer, Johnny cash Boy named Sue nineteen written by shel Silverstein's correct. The children's book writer Dolly Partner. I Always Love You nineteen seventy four? Did it twice? Dolly Parton Joe Lene written by Dolly same year. Dolly didn't need co writers? Okay? Who wrote this? Who wrote Kenny Rogers? Lady in nineteen eighty Lady Lionel Ritchie? Correct? Nice now on this one? Both Aerosmith and Mark chestnutt I don't want to miss a thing? Went to number one? Who wrote it? Not Steven Tyler? You can make your own guests. I'll go Steven Tyler. Mhm. This is Mark Chessnager. It's Diane Warree. Who's that I am supposed to know? She's just a very famous songwriter. Lee green would God Bless the USA? Written by one writer? It was Lee Greenwood. It was Lee, you got me Okay, okay, I'm gonna give you one here to make you. Film My Love by Garth Brooks went number one Country. Who wrote It? Bob Dylan correct? The Billy Joel version also went number one, but a lot of different good version of this song the worst version. I think Bob Dylan's give it when they got the great without that, You're right. I just wonder if Bob knows he sucks at singing. I think he knows his strength. He's a great songwriter. How I like some Bob Dylan singing. Sometimes he's a little too Dylan for me, Like my kids can't stand it. I love Bob Dylan, I love all his music. I listened to it a lot, and they can't stand it. It's to me still funny that Jacob Dylan, the lead sing or the Wallflowers, is Bob Dylan's son, and he just didn't want to use that to get famous, so he's going to buy pseudonyms. It's amazing. I love that. Alan Jackson. Where were You When the World Stopped turn Arning in two thousand two was written by who Alan Jack's correct? Taylor Swift Sparks Fly was written by Taylor Taylor's with Hours written by Taylor. She have a lot of songs that she wrote by herself. I think she has this significant amount, and I think she wrote with a lot of people, especially early it was Liz Liz Rose. She had a bunch of writers. But a great thing about Tylor was she actually she knows who to write with. She she builds her team like nobody I've ever seen before, and all elements pretty cool. Someone would say, hey, I got some flowers from Taylor, but it's probably her team. That said I was like, who cares? Her team's her arm. She had to hire those people to make those decisions. That's Blake Shelton, God gave me you two thousand eleven? Who wrote it? Are you? Ups and downs? Dave Barnes? Nice? Who came in here? That's a good one. Good there, because remember Blake and Blake harted on Christian radio Tim mcgrawl. Humbling Kind was written by one writer. Yes, her name is you can do it, give me her first name, first letter of her first name. I'm going, I'm drawing. Come on. The band Lanko has the song Greatest Love Story written by one person, Brandon Brandon Lancaster, lead singer and then honorable mentioned one. You'll know this. We bring it up about once a week. Patsy Klein Crazy. Don't catch me at a bar man having a few beers. I'll tell you the story was written by Willie Nelson. Do you know this song? Crazy? Willie? They're like, okay, so let's talk about nineties hip hop. Hold on, hold on, hold on, before we do, do you see the election results? And I did? I did, but that's not important right now, you know Willie Nelson? Right, we bring this up in some form of passion. All right, thank you guys. Well we'll recording this. You just got the number one song in the country. Congratulations, Thank you man, Thank you. Pretty crazy. We hadn't met until I guess a couple of weeks ago you came in to tape something for St. Jude, which which years later, and I had asked you how long you have been in town? Because what I found is that with most folks that when they come and they have the first number one, they look at you like, oh, I've been here for a while, like it isn't as easy as people think, or you just show up and then it miraculously starts happening. So with you. How long have you been in Nashville and what was kind of the story that brought you here. Yeah, so I moved here in August of two thousand ten, so a little over ten years ago. They called a ten year town. I hit it right on the hill when they first when I first moved here, they would they would tell me that I heard that all the time, and uh, you know, I thought i'd be I thought i'd be the one different. Yeah, but yeah, definitely not. It's funny because I met like, so, there's like a festival in my hometown every year, and uh, Dustin Lynch opened for Justin Moore. This was in two thousand and twelve, So I'm two years into Nashville, still have nothing going on at all. And Dustin really didn't mean he was probably I don't know, he probably didn't even have a hit yet. He was opening for Justin Moore. I don't at my hometown festival anyway. Maybe Cowboys and Angels, Yeah, it was it was going up the chart maybe. And so I walked up to him backstage and I was like, hey, man, what's up did you get backstage? We're forgetting that. I got to I got to play the f I got to play at like one o'clock, okay, and Dustin and Justin obviously played much later in the night, and so I hung around just so I could potentially meet Justin and Dustin. So Justin and Dustin. Uh. So I walked up to Dustin and I was like, what's up, man, big fan? Like how long you've been in Nashville? And he was like, man, I've been there eight years. And I was like, oh god, I've got to wait another six years just even get out of the eight and uh yeah. But man, I so I I was a late bloomer with music. I played baseball. I had the opportunity to play baseball through junior college. I got recruited to go play to school in Memphis called Creighton College, UM, and I went two days in the semester. The coach that recruited us all there UM called a meeting. He was like, man, I got the job at PITT I'm leaving tomorrow. Yeah I know. Yeah, And so we were just like cool. Well, the guy that just recruited us all to come to Memphis and come to school was leaving, so they bring in another guy. I didn't necessarily get along with the new guy, and I it just it. It had already already felt like it was kind of the end of the road in my baseball career. Anyway, I was kind of playing, you know, I was I should have quit. I should have just retired after junior college. Anyway, long story short, that's when I picked the guitar up. Junior in college picked the guitar up. You know, I wanted to kind of started writing songs at the same time. And uh, long story short, I left Creton College and went down the Southern Myths to finish school. And uh, I had a couple of roommates, one of them that's spoken word poetry and one of them played pretty good guitar, and uh so it's like the perfect combination. We started writing songs and people started requesting these songs that you know, parties and bonfires, and I was hooked. So twenty years older, so is when you first picked up a guitar? Yep? Had you been singing though? Prior? I have? I had always. I was always a guy that sang like I would walk around high school singing. Where did you do talent shows? No? I never did that. I was so I was. I was always so shy, like growing up for some reason, like it took me until my early twenties to kind of come out of my show. Like my buddies would always be like man Jamison, Like we'd be, you know, sitting at a party and have some country music on on the speakers, whateverything, like you should hear Jamison sing, And I'd always be just too chicken to sing like in front of everybody. I was just shy. So it took me a while to come out of my show. But I'm still shy at this day. I mean I'm still I still have some shyness to to get over. But the guitar thing at twenty because you know, when I was nineteen or twenty and I really wanted to do stand up, I thought, and I was doing music, but I was just writing only parody based stuff. And I was like, you know what, I can't make any money using other people's music. So I went to a pawn shop and I paid fifty bucks and I bought a guitar. And I'm left handed, so I had to I didn't even buy a lett an a guitar. I just switched the strings around on a nut and every nut would bust because they're all built for different sized strings. So I was buying this. I bought this guitar, but I was learning to play it from a chord sheet. I bought a Walmart so at, a pawn shot guitar and a chord sheet from Walmart, and I was trying to play these funny songs on stage. Weren't very funny. I wasn't very good. But that was my lessons into learning how to play guitar was buying a prepared from Walmart and looking at it playing guitar. How did you learn? Who was around to kind of help you out? So, my my buddy at Southern Miss he he actually ended up playing. He still plays baseball in the Major leagues. He played for the Twins for like seven eight years. His name is Brian doser Um. He's an All Star year. Anyway, he was, Uh, he taught me how to play I can remember him. Teach me how to play bar course, teach me how to play night moves, um and stuff like that. But I would get on YouTube. I'd get on YouTube and look up, you know, here's a quarter cover song acoustic and you know what I mean, just how everybody does it? So yeah, I did that. It was funny. I was home this weekend and when I got the news that it was number one, and I'm, uh, there's a farm across the road that with me and my dad have been able to hunt for forever. And uh, I was with him and I was like, man, why did you let me go to Nashville? Like I was so bad back then? Like how did you? I was like listening to stuff back ten years ago. Obviously everybody starts out there terrible, but I was bad, Like now, I'm not exaggerating. I wish I had. I probably have a cliff on my phone. It's like it's just night and day. How how how much I've grown? And so I was like, man, why did you Why did you support me doing this? And he was like, man, I just had you know. I just believe. I knew you had it in you. Man, I believe. And it's it's pretty crazy, man, pretty crazy. You know, we have the same management team as far as um, we worked the same company. My guy My guys are are Tom Lord and Tom Betchy, like my direct management, and they have been really high on you for a long time. But but what happens with me is when my my direct management is going, hey, this guy's gotta go. I can't even to do with it. Then you just gotta be quiet because once you're telling me, I feel like I'm I'm I'm polluted now yea. And so I know they had both reached out, um that your number one week, and they're like, we think we got it. We think we got we got Aldine beat because Aldine had number one the week before, Like, we think we got Aldine beat. And once once he's got his number one, you can like him. And I was like, all right, I'm in. But but you know, last on the last episode, we had Tom lord On talking about how vital it is for management when you come to town. How long until you get somebody to think you're good enough to represent you? For me, it was six years. Wow, that that's a long time for someone who ends up making it on a high level. Yeah. Yeah, So I mean, I I mean the first four years I was in town, you know, I didn't even have a publishing deal. I was just working at FedEx Or and Dick Sporting Goods and driving back to Mississippi and playing acoustic shows on on the weekends and just being poor and writing songs with whoever would write songs with me. And so when I finally got a publishing deal, that kind of got me. I call it the cool crowd. I guess that's what you mean. You know, you're getting a circle gets you gotta get in the circle to even have anything going on. And so that that kind of kick started everything for me. And then I got a book and deal. Put an ep ou, I got a book and deal, um ci A and then yeah, management, do you feel like you significantly got better or it just took you long enough to meet folks who could make you, who could put you in a better situation. Probably a combination of both. I mean, I had written I don't know five songs when I moved to Nashville, maybe ten songs. I was a late bloomer, and so it took me, I mean at least four or five years to even figure out. I ain't gonna say how to write a great song, because I don't. I still don't even know if I can do that now, but I learned how to not make a song suck, if that makes sense. Um, And just being around so many other amazing writers. I mean, it's the best songwriters in the world here in Nashville. And so when you go in the room with him every single day, you're gonna learn something new every day. And so you're a FedEx or you're at Dick Sporting Goods. You ever run into any I'm sure you've run into two. Maybe some singers in town you see them, or somebody works at the label. Maybe you didn't know who it was at first, But did you ever try? And I asked this, I'll give you the story. First. My one of my neighbors found out where I live and it's kind of hard to find me here. Yeah, I got walls around and I've had enough situations where now I'm protected. But I made a video. I just got engaged and she recognized my backyard in the video and she came over and I have a security thing at the gate and she goes what she rings and I'm like that, so I'll pull it up and it's she's not in the car. She's on foot. She's looking right in the camera going hey, And I was like, what the there's no car? She was can I I have something for Bobby? And I'm like, oh, what like? Because no, I don't know. I didn't know all I know is there's a lady on my on my phone because that's where of my one of my gate islands. So I'm like uh, and I'm acting like I'm not me. I'm like, well, Bobby's not here right now. It's so obvious it's me because I have the the the least distinct voice ever that you know it's me. And she's like, well, I have something. I'm gonna leave him in. Caitlin was my fiance now, and I was like, why don't you just leave it by the gut. She was I'm gonna put in the mailbox. I said, okay, So she puts in the mailbox. I'm leaving. I text Caitlin, I say, hey, there's some lady that just put something in the mailbox. I'd give it five minutes so she can walk away, but head over. So Caitlin goes over, pulls it out and there's it's like a two page letter. By the way, I'm not totally hating. Once you get into the story, it's like this two page letter. And there was a CD that she put in there of some bald guy with a huge mustache, and she was like, this is his music. Wow. So every out of every fifty of those situations that happened to me, maybe one of them. Do I feel moved to actually spend some time with it, because a lot of them are just weird and and you know, they're leaving stuff on my car and like that feels like it's an invasion of personal space. However, I'm a big believer in shooting your shot, and I probably would do someone sitting on the toilet and I'm a singer, maybe I'll play and stick it under the stall, you know, so they can hear it. So I respect it. But I wonder as you're doing that, whether ever any instances where you saw someone I thought maybe maybe this is my spot to go say something to them. Oh well, I mean, I'm sure there was plenty of times like that where you had to hold yourself back because you're like, I know this would be inappropriate, and I'm trying to think. And there are certain certain stories with artists to who it's happened for them in a good way. Yeah, I encourage people to do I'm not mad at hur at all, but I also have the right to feel creeped out by Yeah, I think I was always here comes the shot thing again with me like I was always is kind of shy and I didn't want to it. Probably I probably stuff would have happened for me sooner had I been more aggressive with this kind of stuff, Probably just because I was always the kind of like, man, I don't want to bother anybody, you know, I don't want to like I feel that way. I don't want them to like, you know, that's just I'm just weird like that. Did you ever see like Ja going and dicks and be like, no, I'm a singer. I'm trying to think. I feel like I have seen people out though, and I was always like, man, I should I think. I saw Randy Howser in Walmart one time and I was like, man, I should I should say something. I want to play a couple of songs here. This is your first number one and debut single. Here is some Girls Get the Trip Back Home Drinking Bottle. You wrote that. I didn't write that. I didn't. I didn't have it up here because I know you're a big songwriter. So my friends are songwriters who end up writing other songs. I always think that's the biggest compliment to other songwriters. Yeah, I always think that's super cool. Because you could be an artist who I'm only doing my own thing. But when you're so sure of your songwriting abilities, I feel like it's a little easier to take a song that that you hear somewhere else. Absolutely, And I mean so this song in particular is a song that so hard Mike, Michael Hardy, Jake Mitchell, and c. J. Soler wrote this song. And you know, coming up in Nashville, we had this group called banda Bros. It was like a little our little fraternity almost is what it is, kind of what it was when nobody had anything going on. We would hang out on the weekends and play songs and and that was a song that they had written. And I was just like, songs really good and like nobody cared about it in town. I was just like, dude, if if, if you know, two or three years down the road, if I have a record deal, I'm cutting this song for sure. And it almost got cut a few times, I think, and uh, you know, it slipped through the cracks. I guess I mentioned your songwriting because let's see songs you wrote. Talk you out of it. F g L. This is a top ten song on you Play You Play, Uh, now your first number one as an artist, it is, But Chris Lane, I don't know about you, was a number one. What's your name sound? So before you have a number one as an artist, you have numb one as a songwriter. That's almost the write of passage for people who last a long time, right right. It's like some of my favorite artists, like I was, I would always be like man Luke Bryan wrote this song for Travis Tritton before he was like Billy Carrington number one for Billy Billy Carrington. Eric Church had like a um Terry Clark cut I think back in the day, just like random so Brantley his all his stuff was he had some big songs as a writer. Um. It seems like though, that is consistent with the folks who stay like they came up, they got a publishing deal as they were figuring out who they were as an artist, they were still just writing, just churning it out because you know, it's a quantity game. You're gonna get some quality if you do enough quantity, but you do you have to just write and work and work and work. And so the significant thing that I see as far as the consistency with artists and country music is those guys that can write they last because even if their shine falls as a performer, it'll be back eventually because they can write themselves out of a hole. Exactly. Yeah. I mean I think for me, I've always gone with good songs take care of everything. I mean they literally do. You can do anything, you could, You could do anything except murder someone probably, And if you have good songs, the fans will not care. They don't care. Yeah, if then you just change your name as the writer and you just keep writing. I'm curious too, because you wrote the lead song from Luke's last record, Born Here to Live Here. You wrote the title track as they were calling when you because there's different stages when they say hey, you gotta cut, or first it's hey looks thinking about cutting, then he cuts it. You're like all right, cool, cool, cool. They're like, all right, we're naming the record after it. Do you go, well, Holy Craft is probably gonna be a single. Oh believe me. I mean, I'm I'm in that. I'm in that mindset right now. I have no idea if it's ever going to be a single, but I'm just like, I'm thankful to even have a chance maybe. I mean, I was hoping that it was gonna be the single. You know that he went with down to One for the single, which is a great song too, and so I was it was kind of a there was nobody saying anything around that camp, Like I was trying to get info from Brian Wright at Universal and you know, carry Edwards, and I was just like, man, it's like almost I have the next single or no, and the just man, we didn't picked anything yet, so maybe maybe next year, maybe next year. Here's one more that you wrote. This is from Jason Audien's nine album. This is called Camouflage Hat, Body Tacking Baby and Your Jacket by the Flag. Yeah, got it bed but goodle a camouflagog and that one, we know will not be a single because he's already working on his next record. I know, I know. And I just found that out like two weeks ago, and I'm still kind of still kind of heartbroken about it. I think you're going all right, though. I think the fact that you now have a number one as an artist kind of cancels that out when you go there and it's your first number one party for for Chris Lane, that's gonna be a pretty cool feeling. Oh man, I mean that's what you dream about, you know what I mean. I mean, I've made a promise to myself I wouldn't go to a number one party till it was mine. I did break that promise because my one of my best friends had a number one and I had to go to that. But that it was Josh Miller. Me and Josh were roommates for a while, and uh what song did he write? There was the number one that you went to? It was, um it was kIPS um uh more girls like you. Yeah, so you go to that one and a little bit you're ashamed of yourself, but your friend your your friendship, and I had nothing going on that afternoon, so I was like, you know, I would have been a butt hole of a friend if I didn't do that. You played the Grand Ol Operty for the first time about a year ago, is that right? Yeah? Last September things when it was again, You've been a town a while to finally get that operay call. That's gonna be pretty freaking cool, Oh man. I mean, that's that's I'm trying to think the coolest thing I've gotten to do that that's probably it. I mean, it doesn't get much cooler than that, you know what I mean, You get to play the I mean, I think of all the people that have played the grand old Operation, and again I got to I got to surprise my grandma and camera with it too. Uh that's the great which sol Man. It was just like, you know, my my dad was named after Ernest tub And so, I mean, it's been some huge country music fans in my family. So that was a big, big deal. I just did a story because I worked with the operating and I've played the operations of Comedian a bunch. But I was doing a story yesterday with with someone who's writing a story in their ninety birthday, and so they were like, yeah, the operation. You know, what do you remember about your first appearance at the opera? Because I think I've probably played the fifteen or sixteen times now. I said, well, what I remember is I didn't see a single face. I was so nervous my first time. You go out and you stand there and it takes a second because the sounds a bit different in that room. It's tall, and I said, I told my first joke and nobody laughed, and I thought, oh crap, this is gonna be awful, but the room is built so tall in different then I felt the laughter. Yeah, yeah, I said, I didn't see anybody's face, cup, so I said, But the second time was my favorite because I got to go out and just kind of sit in it and go, oh, I've been here before, I can do this, and I saw people's faces. I looked in the crowd. I'm gonna ask you the same question, your first time performing at the opery. What do you remember about it that was so significant of the actual performance. Sure. So the whole day, you know, everybody's freaking out. My family, friends are coming up from from Mississippi, and my whole team in Nashvill. It's just a big it's a big night, your your debut with opera. And so I'm I'm pretty good at keeping my cool, like or at least hiding that I'm not nervous, and so I was. I really wasn't that nervous. All day we had played, I felt like a million shows that you're already out with Luke and my home shows, and so I don't know, I felt confident. But when I got side stage, you know, and they're about to introduce you, I was like, oh God, like this is I can't mess up. This could be really embarrassing. Like and uh, anyway I got I'll go out there. It played three songs and I can barely even remember it, honestly. It went by so fast. But Charlie Daniels came up to me after. I was like, man, because I played the last song I played was acoustic, and he was like, man, that last song unbelievable songwriting. And I was just like, oh my god, are you kidding me right now? Charlie Daniels. The opera is cool because everybody that's there is just there meaning have at it. Doors are open hi to anybody if they may comes the high to you. That's cool. Charlie Daniels story. Um, the first that I had known of you really was on Luke's tour. Luke Luke Combs talked about two Luke's here. Luke Holms is like, hey, I like this guy a lot. His name is Jamison Rodgers. How did that relationship come together? So? Uh, let's rewand four years. This was summer of two sixteen. Um, Luke Holms was definitely not Luke Holms. Uh, I get a message on Instagram. I just put out my very first EP right and you know, I didn't even know if I had a fan, and so I put it was kind of like an experiment project. I put it out and people's kind of gravitated towards a song called Midnight day Dream. Anyway, I get a I get a d M on Instagram from Luke Coombs. Uh, he was like, man, uh Nicole his girlfriend at the time, my wife, now I love the song sent it to him and uh he loved it, and he was like, man, we should write some time. And I swear I didn't even know who he was. I mean, this was Hurricane wasn't even on the radio yet, and but he had a blue check mark on Instagram and so I was like, uh, who is this? Did you have one? Though? I would like a two hundred followers at the time, And so I asked some buddies around sound. I was like, have y'all heard of Luke Colmbs? Like he's he has to hit me up on Instagram want to write? And luckily a couple of them are just like, yeah, you should do that. He's got like this big underground following going on, and uh, yeah, we got together and I didn't even finish a song. We got one halfway finished and uh kind of just put put press Paul's on that. And then fast forward like a year too later, Um, I put another EP out with some girls on it, and he hits me up and he was like, Man, this EP is insane. You want to go on tour with me next year? Just like that? Yeah? Pretty much. Well maybe maybe like you know, a random text here and there, but we have I mean, he was so busy, you know what I mean. He was blowing up at the time, and uh, he was never in town. And so yeah, he he hit me up and he was like, man, I'm going out on a We'll do thirty arenas. Um, I want you to be the first of three play thirty minutes and go kick some ass. And I was like, yeah, that sounds pretty I mean I didn't even have any I had no interest from a record label at the time. You know. It was. I barely even had a management deal at the time, I think, And so that that really got the ball rolling from me. You think him putting you on tour absolutely yeah. I mean the lets so Lynn Oliver, who was Luke's manager and signed him to River House and Sony she signed me, and the rest is history. Pretty much. Here is a Colby Are Calling My Name? It's you and Luke Combs right here. There's a cold bit trawing my name. Feel good time coming, got a new song and a sencest and this thing feel luck, he has said, has sometimes said that is a packet balla cream in my baby, but sugar only. Yeah, soopin a pretty damn good day and there's a cool bit coming. Is that a I call you're nervous about going? Hey, man, you want to hop on a song? Yeah? I was for sure because he's never on anything, Like he's just never featured on anything. And so I text him. I actually text Lynn first, his manager. I was like, you think Luke wood would want to sing on Colby Are Calling My Name? Because I knew he liked the song. She had sent him a bunch of my demos and whatnot, and so he was he was a fan of the songs. And I was like, man, I'm going in and cutting or I had already cut it, I think, because when I cut it, I didn't even have the intention to Luke being on it at the time. And then he asked me to go on tour and I was like, man, it would be a cool song for him to jump on. Anyway, I texted me. He was like, dude, that would be awesome. Please let me do it. And I was like okay. And this was like this was also to two and a half years ago, So it wasn't he's the man now, you know what I mean. He wasn't quite the man. He was one of the big guys then. Now he was definitely going in the right direction then. But he's like, yeah, he's Elvis now, I'll call him Elvis. I was talking to Chris Lane maybe a week or so ago, and I had seen that picture on Instagram of all you guys playing ball together the recoupables, Chris Lane, Morgan Wall and Hardy, John Linkston, Jordan Davis. I mean, that's a lot of ex athletes, all trying to be at maybe not trying, still being trying. It's a big trying. Yeah. Anyone anyone got hurt yet? Uh no, not yet. Luckily, I have no idea how tonight is the first night of the playoffs. Actually, so I'm what time in the game, it's I'm lee, I'm pretty much position do you play in the I play second base? Um? But tonight, you know, it's been a battle. So I'm the I'm the coach. Big quotes here, big quotes for the quote for the coach. Um I did. I did put it together, and I was like, man, when's the next time all of us are gonna be in town this much and be able to play softball together? And so I put the put the team together, and you know, I had to hand pick some some guys that I thought were athletes, you know, And it's been fun. It's been a blast, but it is a headache usually every week. I mean, I'm having to deal with like ten artists, you know what I mean. It's like it's a logistical like now your respectually deals with you a little bit more. Who's the most surprised? Who's the best athlete who can still play? Um? Man, Chris Lane is really good? Now? Outfield? Um really good? Are you guys just ringers? Good? Lord? Do you play other teams that every least solid squad too? So it's probably we went five and two and then we lost a couple of games. Yeah, we lost a couple. We got we got got to talk in a big game after we were four. No, that's when everybody started posting the pictures, right, and the next two games we just got smart and we're just like, oh god, we shouldn't have done that. What kind of teams beat you though they got? Are they the softball guy who they have really good teams. They're playing a long time and maybe they didn't play college baseball. But yeah, I mean, it's a so it's a mix, like it'll be two or three Like on the good teams, it'll be two or three players that are like really good, and then it'll be three or four that are they're good, you know what I mean, And then it'll be you know, it's never we don't play anyone that's just like top to bottom. Like I'm scared to death when I'm on the infield, you know what I mean. But there's there is like a couple of guys that have played pro ball like that are out there and just like, oh god, please don't hit it at me. The most annoying thing about having friends out here, because you know, it's it's a lot of folks who come from all over. Right, We're a hub. We're a hub of creativity in different ways. We have big basketball games, have a basketball court down there and like Matt Still came last night. He's just so freaking good. Yeah, and he played college basketball, but I don't know him as Matt Still the college basketball player. But he shows up and it's like, yeah, and I know Matt, it's markets sophomakets. He's like, yeah, let's play just killing folks. Well, it doesn't hurt that he wakes up and he's six seven and seven. But he also had ball handling skills as a six seven guy. Yeah, you can tell he's played a lot of basketball, so he dominates. Like Brett Eldridge comes over. He's a good friend. He plays a lot down here, and he didn't play ball outside of high but he's still so freaking athletic that you're just like, even you pick something, give us something like you can't you know, you shouldn't be good at everything. Yeah, so I have to beat up on Still on the golf course. That's the only sport I can beat him in. Right now. You just played Pinehurst. We did Me and Matt, Me and Matt and like it was he went and played Chris Lane and Hardy and Charles Kelly, Jake, and I mean it was a ton of people that went it was. It was honestly one of the most fun golf trips I've ever been on in my life, just because, I mean, the courses are unbelievable and you know, the hang was awesome. Yeah. With so I I played golf a little bit, probably not at the level that you do. I shot at eighty two that it's pretty happy. It's pretty happy with that struggling though, as you as you know, sometimes something weird just starts happening with you and you can't it's hard to diagnose it. So Jake and I are close, and I said, Jake dudase, Jake is really good. No, he's really it's Jake the best of that group. Or I've played with Charles before. Charles good. Cult Forward I think was the best. Yeah, cult is really good, but Jake is top two three because Culture played on like the Hooters Tour or something. Colt is unreal, which is crazy guy. He's lost a ton of weight actually, but but yeah, I mean even look, I mean he's just yeah, you would not think cult Ford be an incredible golfer, but he is unbeatable really yeah, I mean he's he's just so steady. He never messes up. Ever, he I played. I want to say I played three rounds with him that week. I don't think he missed a fairway. I don't think he did not one fairway. What do you shoot? I think I shot an eight three it on the pine Hurst number two. And what teas were you playing? Do you have to if you're playing well, they don't even have the They have a back tea, but that's not even the US Open tea. When the US Open is there, they don't even have those teams available to play. But no, I played the whatever the second to last tea. I'm not trying. You know, I'm not that good. Well, my my point with Jake was I could I just had something and I could not fix it. And I said, hey man, I'm gonna send you a video. And he goes, hit four or five balls and send me a video. It's so great. So I sent him over and he goes like fifteen minutes later, he's out in the yard of the clubs and it's like here's here's I swear to god, it took four strokes off, just like like he's that good, not just playing, but also going this is what you're doing and this is the easy thing. The small thing you can do to make it better. Colt did the same thing for making weird pine hers because I was. I was. I had the chipping yips when I was out there. For some reason, my short game was god awful, and I was like, could help me out, man, help elding this chipping. And he would just be like, man, pretend the end of the club is a gun barrel and it can never point at you. It has to always be pointing forward, if that makes sense. And so I was like, all right, it sounds weird. And I got out there hit a perfect I was just like, you gotta be freaking kid me. What's this thing? Did you used to noodle? Noodle? Okay, maybe it's we call it different things. Are you talking about grabbling like the catfish? Okay, go ahead, I've done it. No, if you're going by that picture I posted, I did that one time. And I was like, oh, I'm good, I did it. Okay, Yeah, we used to do a bit of that. Yeah, oh everybody back I grew up right next to a big lake, two lakes, and it's a big thing back home. But yeah, I'm good on that. You. I am just got engaged to CONGRESSA. Thanks. When did you get engaged? I got engaged. I think it was the very end of September, so about a month ago. Do you sing to her? Is that how you got her? No? Definitely not, she'd probably laugh at me. Um. So she's a singer songwriter. So we met at the Bluebird Um in two thousand eleven. We have both new in town, and we went to a songwriting workshop. It was like, um, Barbara Cloyd play for publishers. They'd bring in three or four publishers and you got to play a song or two for them and it's a class or whatever for two or three days. And she was in there, and uh, I thought she was pretty whatever all that good stuff. But it took a few years for us two. Uh we and we wrote we right here once or twice a year, and uh, we're friends for a few years and then decided to start dating. And yeah, the rest is history. Are you shy where you because are you're not present tense talking to girls? Were you shy towards women as you were towards generally of folks? Um? Yes, and no, how did you get her? I don't even know? It just kind, It was just kind of a nat. I think we both had had a crush on each other for forever and at the time I was dating another girl. Um, when I met her at the workshop, I was dating somebody else, and I think she was dating somebody else too. So it took, for whatever reason, the stars to align. It took a few years for the stars to align and even consider going out with each other, you know, And you did the proposal at the Bluebird, I did. I saw, I tricked her. I was like, Um, I got my manager to send this crazy long email about this documentary, made up documentary that I just made up, and uh, he was like, you know it's gonna be three cameras. You know you need to come camera ready all this stuff, because you know nothing. Girls want to look good when you get engaged to or when they get engaged, and so um, she walks in and I had it all decked out with some roses. Did she know immediately? I think she did. So if I could go back and change one thing, and I don't there it would be impossible to even change because it's a pandemic year. I wasn't even thinking about her walking in with a mask on because she thought it was gonna be a whole film crew and stuff in there. And uh, she walks in with a mask and and I'm standing up on the stage and it's decked out with candles and stuff, and I was like, take your mask on. You're getting your picture made right now. But it worked out good. Where did you do it? The barn? We have a barn back behind the house, because this is about five acres or a nice little spot, and so there's a barn and we're renovating the barn because it's so old. You used to have horses on this property and they haven't used that barn in twenty years. And so I was like, hey, let's get the barn innovaded. And so I had workers out here that I was off shooting my Natjo show. I mean, we come back on Sunday afternoons. We've we're gonne, you know, Friday, Saturday. We come back Sunday. And so I said, hey, they've been working on the barn all weekend and I'm severely color blind with the dark. And so I said, hey, there's some there's some paint samples down there. I need you to help me because I can't tell the difference in the colors. She's like great, but like you, I knew that she wouldn't want to have a video or she wasn't looking great for engagement because a lot of people going to see that. And I said, hey, we'll we have dinner with a couple of friends. And I never go anywhere. I'll lock myself up. Listen, if you don't have a corona test, I ain't gonna get around you. And she was, and she was like, we're gonna dinner. I said, yeah, we need to get out a little bit, and so she's like okay. So she gets dressed up, but we haven't had a date night in six months, not like that. And so she's dressed up, and I knew she would feel like, man, I've done this in a while. Let me look good. So I was like, okay, we have to go on to dinner, but let's walk down to the barn real quick. So we walk down to the barn and she's like, going, do not do this Monday? And I pulled the door open and like that, it was just candles everywhere. She started crying immediately. Did what did you have planned to say? Did you have something? You know? Your songwriter? The pressure is on yeah, I mean I can't put short and sweet. I mean, but I definitely had something in my brain. I was like, and I don't know, me and her, we don't have to like, I don't know, we're just simple folks. I don't know. We just don't have to like say, I didn't have to be a big speech or anything. I think she was just and we never even talked about getting married ever, Like she never kind of I mean we've been if she would say yes, I mean I had a feeling she would say yes. I mean it was like percent sure, that's a tough five and so I don't know, Yeah, it was I can't put short and sweet. And we went and had a nice dinner after. It was nice. It's a big moment. It's on it's on tape or whatever you call it. You haven't recorded, did you post it? Not? The video just just pictures. Are you saving that video for something? I don't even know if if I'm trying to think if it even got videoed. You're saying the cameras were all set up. Well, I just had I had Kurt. It's he's actually in Luke Comb's band. Uh. He was there taking pictures and stuff. I don't. I don't even I don't think he took a video, though I should ask him. I should have got that video. But oh, well, what are you gonna do to celebrate this song? We celebrated last night pretty hard. Yeah. We we toured down last night. Yeah, so that's it. That's the only big celebration you're gonna have. Well, well we'll we'll throw down again, like uh at the number one party. Yeah. Yeah. Are you guys saying what the next single is yet? Yeah? I mean it's a it's gonna be the one with Luke Colmbs Cold your Colma, Is that right? Yeah? Oh cool? Yeah, Well heck, that's what a great second song to come out with. And here's the great thing about not having that as your first single. People can't go, oh look, Luke Holmbs got you at number one. Yeah. I'm really glad some girls went to know it would have sucked if if it would have got to Twilve or whatever. But I'm really glad it went to number one because Luke would for sure make me know that, you know, I was the reason for the first. Well congratulations man, thank you man. That's really cool. Like I said, people that are in my immediate circle have and sing your praises for a long time. And they also know that's dangerous with me because I'm like, well, I can't do anything about it now because but um, for me, it's exciting to see them so excited about someone, so congratulations and good luck tonight. Yeah, I appreciate it. Don't hurt anything. I have a calf innger, a nagging calf injury from playing ball that's five weeks in. I can't shake it. Once I hit about thirty five, I don't know, how do you Okay, You've got about two more years before they just bit. Something gets tweaked on me every Monday night. I am just in a I have a Peloton treadmill now and now I do the five minute classes sometimes where a few years ago I was like nothing less than sixty. Sometimes I'll be like I'm hurt and I'm gonna do the five minute one today. That's coming to get the blood flow in a little bit. Follow Jamison at Jamison Rogers on Instagram, Twitter, all that you have it all right there, Congratulations on your engagement, Congratulations on the song. You are the shiny toy right now, which is a great place to be because you've got to be that before you're the long, long lasting superstar. So congratulations, thank you. All right, there you go. M hm