Hour 1 – Touchdown in Vegas, Ross Tucker

The Dan Patrick Show

Dan and the Danettes are live from the Fontainebleau in Las Vegas, and they’ve already had their first celebrity sighting who recognized the crew. NFL analyst Ross Tucker joins the show and discusses Shedeur Sanders’ upcoming debut as a starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns and what to expect on Sunday.

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00:00:00
Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Well we did it.

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Speaker 1: We made it to Las Vegas, and I want to thank Fritzy for his bedside manner because I've been under the weather the last couple of days, but nobody checks on me quite like you do, So thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's the special nature of our relationship.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you slowly improve it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it was bad yesterday if we were We got to Vegas and I woke up and I thought if I had to do a show, I wouldn't be able to do it. I was going to call Paulie and say, hey, welcome to the Paul pap Show that he was going to have to do the show.

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Speaker 4: But came.

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Speaker 1: I had a doctor who came in gave me a couple of shots, and for the first time and I think forty five years, she said, pull down your pants, and I got a shot in my butt. I rolled up my arm, you know, my sleeve, and I go, okay, just give me the shot and she goes, no, you got to pull down your pants, and I said, how many times have I heard that in Vegas?

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Speaker 2: But got the shots. So feeling a little bit better, today.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Bob, Wait, you went to a doctor called room service and ordered up a doctor order to doctor.

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Speaker 6: They do that here.

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Speaker 2: You can't get anything in Vaga.

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Speaker 5: Actually, this seems like the town where in house doctors could come in handy with performers.

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Speaker 1: Apparently. I forget what her name is. She has a nickname of she's that doctor that goes to people when they need something, celebrities. I'm told she's also working the race here in Vegas. So if Max first stopping needs a shot or something, and then she'll be here to help him out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. See, I like that in this town.

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Speaker 7: People like that always have crazy stories where they're like, oh, yes, anyway, I'm working on Sinatra's back right, and this guy what?

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Speaker 2: And then I slowly worked my way down Yes, ballie, But when.

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Speaker 5: You're getting the shot, do you even ask? Or you just think she knows what she's doing. I'm gonna feel better in twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: I don't know her.

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Speaker 1: I've opened the door and then she says, you know, hi, and then introduced herself.

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Speaker 2: The next thing I know, I got my pants down there.

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Speaker 6: That's Vegas and the nutshell.

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Speaker 8: Yes, yes, DoD, Actually do you take signal you're not at helping that whole props.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have to fill out any paperwork, but I'm here. It sounds a little rough here, but thank you to my my special doc who made a house call, literally made a house call there for him. All right, Ross Tucker, our good buddy will join us. He is going to be on the call for the Browns and the Raiders. Here in Las Vegas. You've got Shdor Sanders making his debut. This turned into this is a big game now now we care about this. Nicole Brisco works for the Mothership covering Formula one. She'll join us here. Frank Callendo. We saw Frank last night, went to dinner with him and he's on fire, ready to go. But you know, in Vegas, you're walking around and all of a sudden, you go, I think that's Michael Douglas, so one of the great actors of all time. And Mario, who is the Eyes and Ears of the show, he said, I think that's Michael Douglas.

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Speaker 2: I go, well, we know Michael Douglas.

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Speaker 1: He was in our fantasy, our March Madness, and I go, yeah, he was in studio. So I said, well, see if Michael Douglas wants to join us. He's going to join us tomorrow on the show. We're coming in from dinner and we're going through like the revolving doors, and I go, I think that's Matt Friend, who is come. He's blown up in the last two years, very very funny comedian. He's gonna join us on the show tomorrow. So you never know who you're going to see here in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 3: Amazing impressionists.

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Speaker 2: Yes he is amazing, Yes, yes.

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Speaker 5: And it was pretty surreal in the moment, and I was thinking about it after. It's We're walking to the Fountain Blue Lobby with Frank Calliendo, one of the most successful comedians who bases a lot of his act off imitations, and here comes Matt Friend, the new gunslinger in town, a tall rangey my twenty seven year old and Caliendo.

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Speaker 2: And firing impressions.

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Speaker 6: Passing each other in the night in Vegas. It was like a movie scene.

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Speaker 1: It was like you're in the middle of the street in the Western and you know, it's like, yeah, you're twenty feet away from each other, Like you go with your impression.

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Speaker 6: What do you got for me?

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Speaker 4: Friend?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, give me your John Gruden, I'm gonna come back with Howard Stern but h and Frank was like, oh man, he's the real deal. So getting Frank so he's been doing this a long time. Matt Friend is like twenty seven years of age.

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Speaker 7: I like the idea that they're in this like shootoff and one is imitating Clint Eastwood and the other one is like.

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Speaker 2: I'm mil Helckleberry.

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Speaker 7: You know, they immediately dive into impressions facing off.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this guy, Matt Friend, three years ago, he was not that well known. He's only twenty seven, but he used the Internet. He goes up to celebrities and imitates them right into their face on red carpets and it's blown up.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 1: He'll join us on the program tomorrow, but we look forward to having Frank Kelly Endo, who flew.

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Speaker 2: In just to do the show.

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Speaker 1: He said, Hey, I can rearrange my schedule and he said, I'd love to come in. So took him to dinner last night. All right eight seven seven three DP show operator Tyler sitting back at the home office. He'll take your phone calls. So here at the Fountain Blue, they rolled out the red carpet for us for Super Bowl when the Fountain Blue was just opening up, and we kind of view it as a home away from home. Great people, and this is kind of our residency. You know, artists will have their residency and this is ours. We not out as my which as we should have or should be for a residency. But you know, it's not like a dal always gonna you know, our Celene Deon.

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Speaker 2: With their residency. This is this is sort of ours, yes see.

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Speaker 7: And you know it's a little known fact, but that six to nine am residency window is highly coveted in this town.

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Speaker 1: Highly coveted. That's where the big superstars are at. Yeah, Mike, Mike and Mike were always looking at that. Oh yeah, not even not a chance. Okay, So Operator Tyler is sitting by. He'll take your phone call, say good morning. If you're watching on Peacock or the NBC Sports Network. Download the app if you haven't done.

00:05:34
Speaker 9: So.

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Speaker 1: We have Football Tonight bills at the Texans. The Bills are favored by five and a half.

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Speaker 2: No CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud here, Davis Mills once again. But a couple of weeks ago, I said the Texans are on the clock. They're coming back, They're going to be like the Ravens Now they're five and five, they have one of the best defenses in the NFL, and there's still time for them. The Jags are six and four, the Culture eight and two in the division. Texans still have the Colts and they have the Chiefs twice, so maybe some tough sledding there for them. But the Bills at the Texans and that's five and a half points. Aaron Rodgers not sure if he right now, and Lamar Jackson if he as well as I don't think they practiced yesterday. And the college Football poll, you know, sometimes you look at the poll and you think that's what's the what the twelve team playoff is going to be, and that's not the case. Ohio State, Indiana A and m Georgia, Texas, Tech, Old miss Oregon, Oklahoma and Notre Dame. And there is going to be some debate, There's been debate. There will be probably some yelling and screaming if Notre Dame gets in and Miami doesn't get in and Miami beat Notre Dame to start the season in Miami. But it's TV, and whenever you factor in TV, you got a factor in popularity. And if Notre Dame and Miami are sort of equal even though they Marcus, so you know Miami will be on the outside looking in.

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Speaker 5: Yes, BOWI, But it's interesting what rationale you use because kirkhirb Street and Rhys Davis were talking the other day and they said, shouldn't you look at the team how they're playing now, not how they're playing in September, because you're building a tournament for December January, and Notre Dame's playing better than Miami.

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Speaker 6: So you could make that case. There's lots of different rationales.

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Speaker 1: And A and M beat Notre Dame at Notre Dame, so you know that's not that strengthens A and M's schedule, but also strengthens Notre Dame schedule that they played A and M, and A and M is one of the top five teams. But if you were going to give me the first round of the playoffs right now, how would that match up?

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Speaker 6: As of today?

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Speaker 5: The first four games would be Notre Dame, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tulane, Texas Tech, Alabama, Oregon, and Miami Old Miss.

00:07:53
Speaker 6: That's saucy.

00:07:55
Speaker 1: Is Lane Kiffin going to be there at Old Miss? Is there there a chance that Lane Kiffin takes a job before Old Miss season is up. Here is Lane Kiffin on Pat McAfee's show earlier this week.

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Speaker 4: That's absolutely not true.

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Speaker 10: There's been no ultimating anything like that at all, and so I don't know where that came from, Like a lot of stuff that comes out there.

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Speaker 6: Like I said, man, we're having a blast I.

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Speaker 4: Love it here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So there's no ultimatum that he had to make up his mind before the end of the month, but at some point he has to have an ultimatum there. If I am Old Miss, I say, you're having a blast here. This is the greatest season we've ever had. Are you gonna stay here or not?

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Speaker 2: Just now?

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Speaker 1: I would ask him what are you waiting for? That'd be the only question I've asked link. What are you waiting for? Just so we know, are we in the game here? Or is this coming down to Florida and LSU? Is it between those two? And that's what you're waiting for? But I wonder does he take a job and he does not coach this team as they get to the playoffs, That would be a terrible look. But if he's leaving, that's probably going to happen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, poem, maybe we should allow trades in college football where you could trade coaches. So Ole Miss realizes we may lose this guy. Let's trade them to Florida for a couple of nice linebackers.

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Speaker 2: And you get the other. Okay, saying you don't want any coaches from Florida.

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Speaker 5: The other funny thing was, I was looking at a picture of James Franklin at Virginia Tech and he's brocking out.

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Speaker 6: He's got the whole thing and the Virginia.

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Speaker 5: Tech clothes had Nine weeks ago, he was the number two team in the country with Penn State nine weeks rapping.

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Speaker 8: Yes, you're having a blast, So what number are you thinking about to have more of a blast than you really really are enjoying being here?

00:09:39
Speaker 2: You how about a financial blast? Here?

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Speaker 1: Let me help understand here, Lane, But Laane is he's kind of the big deal maker here. It's his year with what Old Miss has done, and now everybody's going to go, what can you win a national title at Old Miss? Well, he's done pretty well at Old Miss, and I don't know if I would get to where Brian came lly and go, now, I can't win a national title at Notre Dame, so I'm leaving. Meanwhile, Marcus Freeman has been in a national title game and might be headed back there this year.

00:10:08
Speaker 7: It turns out you can't want to win one at L A few either, you know what I mean?

00:10:13
Speaker 1: Wait, is that your Brian Kelly impersonation? No, if I was gonna do that, okay, Just the fact that Brian Kelly reached out to a pr an image shaping person to help him with his image.

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Speaker 2: Before or after he four I think, well, no.

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Speaker 1: During l s u oh brother, and I would be like, you know, the best way to improve your image, win some games. That'll do it. I don't care what accent you got. You could be be from Belarus, it doesn't matter. Go out there and win a game or two. Classic BELARUSI yeah, yeah, Belarusian.

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Speaker 2: Therefore four and a half point underdogs this week.

00:10:57
Speaker 6: Yes, Brian Kelly should think about it to college.

00:11:00
Speaker 5: It's opens up going back there, go back to his original accent a little easier, Just do it.

00:11:04
Speaker 2: You can match his new England roots back there.

00:11:07
Speaker 1: Then it can sound like the guys from the movie The Townock at the Car, Yeah, or the guys will cack this weekend boys come on the Depotted. Yeah, goodwill hunting God, those accents are terrible.

00:11:18
Speaker 3: And then the Potted.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what number? How about that matter?

00:11:21
Speaker 3: What can I use you?

00:11:23
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about hearing a Boston accent in a movie that doesn't sound real. But when you're in Boston and you hear that accent, you know it is real. And it still doesn't sound real. Actually, there's no way.

00:11:35
Speaker 4: You don't really do that.

00:11:36
Speaker 6: Yeah, And Matt Damon and Mark Wahlberg are on the set.

00:11:38
Speaker 5: You think they'd be like quality control coaches, like, Hey, that's not the right accent.

00:11:42
Speaker 2: You don't say that to Jack.

00:11:43
Speaker 6: You can't say that to you.

00:11:43
Speaker 1: Don't say that, I don't say you. Poll question today, what are we you going with? By the way, I guess celebrity siding on the way out here, Paulie had a celebrity sighting.

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Speaker 6: Did you want to knock it out now?

00:11:56
Speaker 1: It's good, Yeah, because you've been teasing it for I think forty eight hours and I've under meds.

00:12:01
Speaker 6: That's giving you something to look forward to.

00:12:02
Speaker 2: IM coming in and out of consciousness here.

00:12:04
Speaker 6: So I'm at Newark Airport.

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Speaker 5: I'm going up to the United Lounge, and there's two flights of stairs you have to go up to the United Lounge, and then there's an elevator you could take. And as I go into the United Lounge, the door opens up and their guy comes out and we both recognize each other. Shockingly, he recognized me. He's like, hey, and here's the hint, the first hint. Jhon Ham No, Michael Strahan No, I would say more famous than both what this guy no, but different field.

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Speaker 2: But ben affleck Oprah.

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Speaker 5: This guy is an athlete and he is clearly the greatest ever to do what he did where it's not even a discussion. Michael Phelps is that's.

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Speaker 2: A good one.

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Speaker 5: So the elevator opens, Michael comes out, and I look and then I look back and he looks at me, and he double takees, hey, man, and you know he doesn't know, like hey, Paul, he's not gonna say that. Be like, are the guys here? And I go, oh, we're all going out to Vegas. I said, where are you going? He goes, I'll going back to Arizona. And we walk into the thing and of course I said, I go, you took the elevator. Yeah, I go soft which he liked the joke. He actually it was risky. We go into the United posed to taking the escalator, I took no. I walked two floats of se O. You did like a champion. It was like a one hundred meter butterfly for me. Okay, and uh then we walk in. We go up to the bar and I go, I want to drink on buy and he goes, they're free. Okay, that not bad. And then he went and sat. We said goodbye and that was it. But it was nice to see him. Okay, he put the hoodie on though, because people were like this and that. He did say. One time a woman came up to him and goes, you're the guy, You're the Olympic guy. You sing, you sing, and he goes, that's right man. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 3: The odd thing is he was wearing a speed out with a bunch of gold medals.

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Speaker 5: We get it out, but he said hello to all the crew. It was very nice to see.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, that was worth the wait.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Michael Phelps, Yeah, that's a good one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Todd has a rhyme Time a little later on Vegas version of rhyme Time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you're on I don't know if it's good or bed that you're on.

00:14:15
Speaker 2: Marvin was ready to applaud, I was ready.

00:14:19
Speaker 4: Are we not.

00:14:19
Speaker 3: Feeling the support? Not feeling the level?

00:14:21
Speaker 2: That's about rhyme time tomorrow?

00:14:23
Speaker 3: Do whatever? Okay, maybe like noon eastern Friday, that would be whatever one would do.

00:14:27
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00:14:38
Speaker 2: While supplies.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Vegas is great.

00:14:51
Speaker 1: So you know we should see if Frank Kelliendo does a Ross Tucker impersonation on short notice.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna take put me out of business.

00:14:58
Speaker 1: By the way, it's it's heart if he does Andrew Luck and Ross Ducker, You're you're done. But you can have a conversation with Frank Caleendo at dinner without having a conversation with Morgan Freeman, John Gruden Charles Barkley. So it just all of a sudden, it's like you're talking and then all of a sudden, next thing, I know, he's giving you that that John Gruden look.

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Speaker 2: His face starts bending.

00:15:22
Speaker 1: And we went to the Golden Steer last night, which is wonderful, great people there. It's right off this it's old Vegas. In fact, the rat Pack used to go into a Golden Steer had their own little boosts in there.

00:15:35
Speaker 2: It was it was great, really well, yes, Ply.

00:15:39
Speaker 5: And Frank Calandro came off the bench because the man Fritzy tapped out last night, Frank Calando sits in for Fritzy. He did a little Fritzy just face.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't do your voice, he does your face.

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Speaker 6: And as we know it, knew was you in two seconds top on radio.

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Speaker 2: Though a little better on Peacock and NBC Sports.

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Speaker 8: Now, I wonder how much time goes by, I know we're up against the break here. How much time goes by where he slips into doing an impersonation when you're going out socially with Frank Kellendo. Is it after a couple of minutes? How long could he stay Frank Callander before he has.

00:16:13
Speaker 2: To do that's what I just said.

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Speaker 3: No, up said about how much time, basically like not more than a couple of minutes, and then he goes right into it.

00:16:18
Speaker 2: If you would have gone with us, you know I missed it. I can only envision it theos who know exactly.

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Speaker 6: Miraculous recovery minutes eight.

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Speaker 1: Second, No, it's forty two seconds. And then he goes into an impersonation.

00:16:29
Speaker 3: And then I ordered the primary.

00:16:32
Speaker 2: How about we take is that you're all right? You should work on that, Todd. That was good.

00:16:38
Speaker 3: I'm assuming you'll pay the bill.

00:16:41
Speaker 2: And I did it, did all.

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Speaker 4: I did.

00:16:46
Speaker 1: Although Frank had an allergy. Did you notice that he kept rubbing his nose the whole meal? And he goes, hey got an allergy.

00:16:53
Speaker 6: He said, he got pepper in his nose.

00:16:55
Speaker 2: All right, let me take a break here, Hope, it's just an allergy. Just getting started here. Ross Ker will join us.

00:17:00
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00:17:05
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00:17:07
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00:17:29
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00:17:47
Speaker 1: If you do join us in Las Vegas, We're on from six to nine local and you come to the second floor of the food court there at the Fountain Blue Hotel and come in and join us here. We'll be back tomorrow. Michael Douglas, the legendary actor. It's always weird when Michael Douglas came into the New York studio that day. And I've met a lot of famous people, but sometimes you meet people and you go be damn, that's Michael Douglas walking in here, and he goes, hey, Dan, I'm like all right. Canu Reeves was another one where he came in no entourage. He looked like he was thirty five and I think at the time he was fifty and he just came in. He goes Dan, and I go, where's your entourage?

00:18:27
Speaker 2: He goes, I don't.

00:18:28
Speaker 3: I don't have one.

00:18:30
Speaker 1: And I thought, Okay, we doesn't have to. I mean, he's John Wick. He doesn't need an entree mess with John.

00:18:36
Speaker 5: I'm not Yeah, Paul, I remember when Michael Douglas walked into the man Cave.

00:18:39
Speaker 6: He looked like a million bucks.

00:18:40
Speaker 5: He had this tan suit on, his tan, his hair look great and like you said, we've had tons of actors. When he walked out, I look at you, guys, I said that there is a movie started.

00:18:48
Speaker 3: Yes.

00:18:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, We've had a few of those moments, which leads us to Ross Tucker now the CBS UH Ross Tucker Football Podcast, follow him on social media at Ross Tucker NFL in the booth for the Browns and the Raiders. This Sunday, yay, we get to talk about Shador Sanders and I have a reason to here, Ross, good to talk to you. What do you what do you hope to see from Schador Sanders this Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Boy.

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Speaker 10: I guess just making strides and improvement. And I think that he definitely will look better than he did on Sunday against the Ravens, although I would also say this, Dan, I think if you watched each play and the coaching tape of each play, it looked a lot better to me than when I just saw the stats. You know, you initially see four of sixteen interception whatever. When I watched, I thought it was better than that. You know, he made some really good throws. They very much struggled to pick up the blitzes that the Ravens were bringing it him.

00:19:55
Speaker 4: I mean they they threw the kitchen sink at him, and not just at him.

00:19:59
Speaker 10: They threw the kids and sink at the Browns offense, and the Browns offense did not do a very good job of picking it up and putting Shador in a better position to succeed. I think we're all just excited to see what does it look like when the whole game plan is designed for his strengths and to.

00:20:17
Speaker 4: Mitigate his weaknesses.

00:20:19
Speaker 10: He gets every rep this week throwing the ball to Jerry Judy and those guys.

00:20:24
Speaker 4: I'll say this, Dame, we can't look at this one game and make.

00:20:28
Speaker 10: A definitive judgment as to what his NFL career is going to be. But I am really excited, like everybody is, to see what he can do with having everything aligned for him, at least for this week.

00:20:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think everybody seems to pick a side with this topic.

00:20:44
Speaker 2: I just said, let the kid play, that's all.

00:20:47
Speaker 1: I just don't want the media to make him into Tim Tebow, that you're not good enough to start, but there's too much of a distraction to keep you on a roster because I remember when Tebow did he go to the Patriots and know, how do you cut Tim Tebow? Like you get to that point and head coach doesn't want to be dealing with that. I hope Chador can show us that he can either play or he can't play because you're gonna put so much pressure on it a head coach that he's got to deal with the Shador situation.

00:21:16
Speaker 2: And I agree with you.

00:21:18
Speaker 1: When I'm watching that game he had no time, would I would tell him, you got a clock in your head that if it's not there in three seconds, throw it away. Don't try to make a play. You're not athletic enough, you're not your dad. You got three seconds at the most. And Max Crosby's coming after you, so get it, read it, get rid of it, and live to see another play.

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Speaker 10: Your thoughts, well, it's funny that you mentioned, you know, the Tebow effect, because most people I talk to thought he was like a late first round, early second round pick.

00:21:52
Speaker 4: So I believe that. You know, maybe he didn't nail.

00:21:55
Speaker 10: The pre draft process, and you talk to people and they'll tell you that, but I still do think that how popular he is, or how polarizing, whatever word you want to use, I do think that contributed to his fall on the draft because I think people said, Okay, if he's not going to be the starter, we don't want the most talked about person on our team to be a rookie second or third string quarterback.

00:22:21
Speaker 4: And you know, Dan, I think I told you this.

00:22:24
Speaker 10: I've never experienced anything like this calling games, but last year I did Colorado Colorado State on TV for CBS, and Dan, I don't know if it's real people or it's bots or what, but if you say anything positive about Shador, there's a weird group of people or bots or whatever. They jump down your throat right away. That was an easy pass. The receiver made the play. He's not good. And then if you say anything negative about Shador, there's a whole other like group of people or bought army or whatever.

00:23:04
Speaker 4: Nobody's just kind of like relaxed with him.

00:23:08
Speaker 10: It's the strangest thing that And I guess I can see how someone has supporters that are that strong. The weird part of it to me is this group of detractors that seems so invested in him not performing well. I have never experienced it like that any other game. After the game, I looked at my social media mentioned and it's like people were big mad no matter what I said.

00:23:35
Speaker 1: You know, it's agenda base coverage. I see members of the media, it's agenda base that they want to have. They have a relationship probably with Dion. You want to stay in good favor with him. It feels like they're fighting for Dion and Shador and kind of carrying the water or the complete opposite. And as I've said on the show, I voted him third in the Heisman. I thought of him that much, that he played behind a bad line, hung in there, took some big hits, put up some big numbers, and I just said, I think he's going to start this year. Give him a chance. Let's just see if the kid can play. It's hard enough to play the position. Now everybody is going to be watching you, and everything you do is going to be scrutinized.

00:24:17
Speaker 2: Now. Has he invited this?

00:24:19
Speaker 1: Yes, Dion joined us in New Orleans at the Super Bowl and he told us he was dictating the draft of where his son would go or not go. So they kind of put themselves in this position. And it's ironic that he makes his first start with the team I thought was going to draft him, the Raiders, and they passed him up. And Tom Brady has known Dion and Shadoor. He is mentored Shador and Tom is a minority owner of the Raiders. And it told me an awful lot that a team that could use a backup quarterback and maybe an eventual successor to Gino Smith, they passed on him.

00:24:55
Speaker 2: I think, you know, five or six times.

00:24:58
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, he was passed on him a lot of times.

00:25:02
Speaker 4: Although there have been reports that.

00:25:03
Speaker 10: Have come out that evidently, you know, he and Dion told certain teams not to take him because he didn't want to go somewhere where they had an established starter.

00:25:12
Speaker 3: I don't know.

00:25:12
Speaker 4: How accurate those reports are or aren't.

00:25:15
Speaker 1: I'm with you, though, Did I get that Lamar Jackson he didn't want to go to the Ravens because they haven't established starter. That's Lamar Jackson with Gino Smith and the Raiders and Tom Brady, That to me is a great That would have been a great landing spot.

00:25:30
Speaker 10: Especially with how Gino Smith has struggled this year. Which is one of the interesting things about the Raiders is I think they brought in Pete Carroll and Gino Smith to kind of change the culture right and to get a winning culture and to be competitive. But they're not competitive. And yet they're not really playing their young guys yet either, because I still think Pete Carroll's trying to flip the culture that both these teams are in really really fascinating position.

00:26:03
Speaker 2: Is Pete Carroll coaching for his job this year?

00:26:07
Speaker 10: Well, I would imagine that everything's on the table for the Raiders at the end of this year, you know, quarterback, head coach, because if you brought in Pete Carroll for credibility and to write the ship, I don't think that they had delusions of grandeur of being a playoff team this year, but they had been so down for so long.

00:26:32
Speaker 4: I think the goal was.

00:26:34
Speaker 10: With Gino and Pete, we can be a seven to eight win team and start to build this thing the right way and change the culture here. And unfortunately, for a number of different reasons, it just it hasn't happened for him.

00:26:49
Speaker 1: Here's another thing I don't understand. I love Danshton Genty. I love the pick, but I love to pick when I have a good offensive line. I'm want to have a good offensive line first before I draft a running back.

00:27:01
Speaker 10: Well, so there's a couple things there. Number one is their offensive line is not good. Their best player, Colton Miller's hurt, probably their second most talented JPJ.

00:27:11
Speaker 4: The right guard, he's hurt.

00:27:13
Speaker 10: You know, watching them against the Cowboys Monday night, I'm not sure they have a guy starting Dan that is an average starter right now in the NFL. I mean maybe Parham at left guard or Glaze at right tackle. The other thing that's interesting though about gent and I you know, I someday I called the Lions Eagles game for Westwood One, and I'm.

00:27:34
Speaker 4: Watching that game and I'm thinking about Genty.

00:27:36
Speaker 10: You know, usually if you're like a top fifteen pick as a running back, it's Sakwan Bijon Robinson, Jamiir Gibbs like you are electric. I mean when you dan, you can feel when Jamir Gibbs has the ball, he's operating a difference speed to anybody else out there. That's not really genty gent is like an incredible tackle break and making people miss.

00:28:02
Speaker 4: But he's not.

00:28:03
Speaker 10: He's not operating into different speed out there. He doesn't have that level of explosiveness, which I think makes him interesting as a sixth overall pick.

00:28:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Raiders are a mess right now. Pro Football Focus has that offensive line ranked thirty first. We're talking to Ross Tucker the Ross Tucker Football podcast, available on social media at Ross Tucker NFL. He'll be on the call for the Raiders and the Cleveland Browns. You got the Bills and the Texans tonight. This is kind of interesting with that great defense by the Texans. I don't know how good the Bills are. I don't know how good the Texans are either. Texans are five and five no CJST. So how do you can't handicap this that the Bills are favored by five and a half at the Texans against one of the best defenses in the NFL.

00:28:47
Speaker 10: Well, I think the two best deep well, I will say the three best defenses right now would be the Browns, the Texans, and the way the Eagles have play these last two games, holding both the Packers and Lions under double digits. But the Texans edge, rushers, corners, they are elite. This is a major major challenge for the Bills. And I know that Josh Allen had six touchdowns on Sunday against the Bucks, but he also had two pretty bad interceptions. And so this is one where the Bills might have to win it ugly. They might have to win it with defense. They might have to kind of win it nineteen sixteen, sixteen thirteen, and that's okay, you know that works as well.

00:29:28
Speaker 2: Buffalo's defense is.

00:29:31
Speaker 4: Start.

00:29:31
Speaker 10: He's won the first two and he's kind of saved the Texans season. If they lost either one of those, they would probably be done. But they are still very much alive because Davis Mills has done what you want a backup quarterback to do, which is come in and not be the reason why the team loses the game.

00:29:50
Speaker 2: Buffalo's defense, yikes.

00:29:53
Speaker 10: Yeah, they've lost some guys at Oliver Michael Hoyt that I think they were really counting on you know, it's wild because right now, Dan, you know, it's looking like the Bills and Chiefs, maybe even.

00:30:06
Speaker 4: The Ravens are gonna be wild cards.

00:30:09
Speaker 12: But what are people really gonna predict if it's the Chiefs in a wild card game at New England or at Indy or at Denver.

00:30:20
Speaker 4: I mean, we just had it Sunday, the five and five Chiefs. We're three and a half point.

00:30:26
Speaker 10: Favorites on the road against the nine and two Broncos.

00:30:31
Speaker 4: So what they're telling you.

00:30:32
Speaker 10: Is, yeah, we know there's this group of teams at the top that have these nine and two eight and two records, and we know where the Bills, Ravens and Chiefs are. But the betting public or the pros or whoever, when it really comes down to it in the playoffs, people are.

00:30:48
Speaker 13: Still gonna believe that Daniel Jones and May and those guys Bonnicks will beat Josh Allen Lamar and Mahomes and the playoffs when they see I don't think it's gonna be a ton of people picking those home favorites in those playoff games.

00:31:03
Speaker 1: What do you think your opinion is going to be if the Cowboys happened to beat the Eagles this Sunday.

00:31:10
Speaker 10: I think if the Cowboys beat the Eagles, my opinion will be I will say I was a little bit wrong about Jerry Jones trading for Quinn Williams.

00:31:20
Speaker 4: I did not think it made a whole.

00:31:22
Speaker 10: Lot of sense to make that move in the middle of what felt like a lost season, but coming off to win against the Raiders where they looked a lot better on that side of the ball.

00:31:33
Speaker 13: If they now beat the Eagles, and they win back to back and they're very.

00:31:38
Speaker 10: Much in the playoff mix for the rest of this season, then I'll tip my cap to Jerry Jones and I'll say kudos to him for not giving up on the season and letting those guys have.

00:31:49
Speaker 4: A chance to really make a run at this thing.

00:31:52
Speaker 10: Because that offense, with that O line and Dak and those receivers, they have a puncher's chance in any game they play. So if the defense can just be average, and they were better than average Monday night in Vegas, if the defense can just be average and they get to the playoffs, they could be a scary out for somebody.

00:32:12
Speaker 1: You know, I was just thinking about this is Miles Garrett going to be the defensive version of Joe Thomas in Cleveland, where first ballot Hall of Famer but has nothing to show in his resume.

00:32:25
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I mean he already is. You know, think about this.

00:32:30
Speaker 10: I think right now, and they might even be the betting favorites, but I think right now, Miles Garrett the defensive player of the year.

00:32:36
Speaker 4: Clearly.

00:32:37
Speaker 10: I think Carson Schweeshinger, their rookie linebacker, is the defensive rookie of the year.

00:32:42
Speaker 4: They're two and eight. I mean, the defensive player of the year and defensive rookie of the year on a two and eight team. I can't begin.

00:32:50
Speaker 10: To explain Dan how crazy what Miles Garrett's doing is.

00:32:56
Speaker 4: For two reasons. Number One, they never have a lead.

00:33:00
Speaker 10: You know, he's never able to just tee off for the whole fourth quarter because they have a two score lead. You know, the other teams throwing it. These are sacks in regular down and distance. He doesn't have a chance to just pin his years back. Secondly, the entire week, the Raiders this week, all they're talking about is we're not gonna let Miles beat us.

00:33:25
Speaker 4: We're not gonna let it be.

00:33:26
Speaker 10: Miles we're gonna chip, we're gonna slide to them, we're gonna bring the tight end over, We're gonna have a running back b gap like the whole For him to do what he does every week, when I know for a fact, having been a former offensive lineman, that he's the guy that you talk about in game plan and say we're not gonna let him ruin the game, and yet he still ruins games. Is unbelievably impressive.

00:33:51
Speaker 2: Save travels. Always great to talk to you, buddy. Thank you. Ross.

00:33:54
Speaker 10: Yeah, maybe i'll wave as our planes cross tomorrow as I'm flying to Vegas.

00:33:59
Speaker 4: You guys are flying back, Wave you guys.

00:34:00
Speaker 1: Ross Tuckers, CBS Sports Westwood One, NFL College football analyst, and he'll be on the call for the Browns and the Raiders. That's one o'clock start here in Las Vegas, which I find interesting because it is a game that I think people will go out of their way to watch. Usually put your great game. You can't put that game at four thirty, can't do that. But one o'clock that might be the one o'clock must see NFL game. We'll take a break. Our play of the day is up next. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

00:34:39
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00:34:42
Speaker 6: Of the day.

00:34:45
Speaker 2: Play this is the play of the day.

00:34:49
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00:34:55
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00:34:56
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00:35:00
Speaker 3: Has done it again.

00:35:03
Speaker 2: Put some respect?

00:35:04
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00:35:09
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00:35:15
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00:35:24
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00:35:43
Speaker 5: Yes, Paul, and the announcer said, put some respect on his name? Is there a rampant dismissal of Nicola?

00:35:48
Speaker 6: Would you said the last five years.

00:35:51
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's been an anti yeah campaign there call him out rampant disrespect.

00:35:56
Speaker 2: Yeah of that name. Take that. What is the poll question, Seaton?

00:35:59
Speaker 1: I they kind of blew by that with we got started and uh I forgot to get a pole question for the first down.

00:36:05
Speaker 2: Well we got one here from Paul. Which sport do you understand the least? F one? Rugby, cricket, other.

00:36:14
Speaker 5: Like European type sports that we see and watch, Like I've watched cricket before and I seem to enjoy myself when I'm watching, but I really don't understand the rules.

00:36:22
Speaker 2: Well, what's there to understand about Formula one?

00:36:25
Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of nuances of the car that I don't really they blow by me when I watch the races. They're like, well you're talking about the different dietary gearboxes.

00:36:33
Speaker 2: And yeah, but they do that with Nascar.

00:36:36
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I grew up on Nascar a little bit. Just it's it's it's almost like a different language with F one mm hm.

00:36:42
Speaker 1: Cricket I don't understand, but it seems like they go on and on and on, like doesn't a match go for days?

00:36:49
Speaker 4: I think?

00:36:49
Speaker 1: I think so India and Australia seem to be really good. New Zealand I think are really good.

00:36:55
Speaker 2: With that sport. Thoses, I think I think so, Yes, Paul, here's.

00:36:59
Speaker 5: Some thing I don't understand. I like Nascar, and when it rains, they don't drive. They park the car soft but f one, if it's drizzling on the track, they'll they'll they'll.

00:37:09
Speaker 2: Play the ava, they'll play, they'll they'll drive.

00:37:12
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:37:13
Speaker 1: Uh, they had a lot of rain here in Vegas and it could uh. I think the weather is supposed to be nice on Saturday and Sunday, but it wud be uh Chili for Vegas standards. But they were talking about how much rain they've had and they're going to be driving on the streets here, uh, which is that's what's great to see because the city kind of envelopes it becomes the sport and you could see you know, Vegas and different places around around the world that they go to.

00:37:40
Speaker 8: Yes, tod which is more of a concern if you're not driving like Saint Nascar, because it's slippery and can further cause accidents of those don windshield wipers where it's really distracted to see the other cars and see what's.

00:37:50
Speaker 3: In front of you with that line going cross?

00:37:53
Speaker 2: I don't think they have wind show was So how does it work that.

00:37:55
Speaker 3: If it's pouring rain on your winkfield, they just magically dissipate.

00:37:58
Speaker 2: They don't race NASCAR doesn't, but for F.

00:38:02
Speaker 8: One we're saying they do, so rain would do the same thing to a F one. Windshields are like, how distracted? May not be going toward you miles an hour with windshield? Wife is going back and forth.

00:38:10
Speaker 5: The F one cars don't really have windshields. They have this little wind thing that's in front. It's about four inches tall. But there's a car right there.

00:38:17
Speaker 2: There's a car right over here.

00:38:18
Speaker 3: So you're saying I'm advertising my ignorance right now about formulae again, there's no there's no shield at all. It's just an open space.

00:38:24
Speaker 6: There's a car right over here.

00:38:26
Speaker 3: I should probably take a look at that. I walked right by it several times. So there's no issues with winshield. Wipe is on Formula one cars.

00:38:31
Speaker 1: Randy and Pennsylvania serious XM is really good though, Randy and Pennsylvania joining us on the program. How can you help us?

00:38:41
Speaker 9: Randy, God blessed gentlemen who covers Formula one better than the Dan Patrick show.

00:38:48
Speaker 1: No body, but they are trying to learn. We are open, open minded to trying to learn. That's why we're out here doing something a little out of our comfort zone.

00:38:57
Speaker 9: Randy, Yes, no, not at allpreciate that because motorsports is my first sport, which is blasphemed saying that the NFL takes second spot. But I wanted to call let you know earlier before you got out there. If you think you took enough money, double that and take a little more. It's for the beautiful people, not so much for the layman or you know, the Formula one fan like myself who's already been.

00:39:26
Speaker 4: To a few races.

00:39:28
Speaker 3: It's a lot of money.

00:39:30
Speaker 4: Now.

00:39:30
Speaker 1: I found that they this is the third time they've held the race here, and I think they realized the prices tickets and hotel rooms.

00:39:40
Speaker 2: I think they've modified that.

00:39:42
Speaker 1: I talked to a person affiliated with the race and said, you know, we learned kind of the climate here in Vegas, of who's going to come out, what are they going to spend, and they greatly modified that. So, you know, kudos to Formula one for doing that. But yes, I think when you think Formula one, if you saw the drive survive, you get a sense of who those people are who are coming out here. And I think Vegas wants to let Formula One know, and these fans know it's for everybody. But the speeds that you get up to on regular roads that you'll be streets that you would be driving on or riding in a car on, that's what's amazing. And when you go from a couple hundred miles an hour and then you have to go into a turn and you only have a certain amount of time to get to that turn.

00:40:31
Speaker 2: They talk about the g.

00:40:32
Speaker 1: Forces on your neck, like when you know that there's a lot of different things that you think factor into that. But talking to a Formula form Formula one former driver and saying that that is what you know at the end of the race, it's like you could use a neck massage.

00:40:48
Speaker 5: Yes, PAULI top speed in Vegas this weekend two hundred and twenty nine miles per hour. I think the Las Vegas NASCAR track, which is the fastest or one of the fastest, they may get to two eleven to twelve.

00:41:01
Speaker 2: They laugh at NASCAR speeds. I'm guessing blow and by them.

00:41:05
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder.

00:41:07
Speaker 1: You know, there's great respect for anybody who gets behind a wheel. You know, I don't care if it's Formula one, NASCAR, kart, any of that. But I do like when they get into others, you know, the somebody else's car, just to get that feeling and what that's like. Nicole Brisco from the Mothership, she covers Formula one. She'll join us here and Frank Callendo as well, will stop by our two on the way after this

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