Manny MUA, Mommy Makeovers, and Mayhem at the Oscars

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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Give Them La La Podcast. Did I sound like Heather.

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Speaker 2: McDonald's Oh that's who you were going for? Okay, I thought, Hello, it's juicy scoop. You actually did right there.

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Speaker 1: And every time she does it because I don't listen to very many podcasts, but I listened to hers, and I listen to my own, and I'm like, I always do the intro the same, but then Heather McDonald does hers the same. So I was like, Okay, it's fucking Heather McDonald. I can do the same. If she does the same. People like consistency. They do yeah, And I'm a virgo and if you veer me off the path, I'm not good, not good for my mental So what a fun weekend. We had the Oscars on Sunday. Are you a big Oscars watcher? Be honest.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna be honest. I am not a big a ward show anything watcher. It's just, yeah, it's hard for me to.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know because I just know that behind the scenes there's like political stuff that goes on. I've just never been a big award show watcher. I appreciate it. I appreciate the performances and like the fashion and I'm like, oh, this is fun. And I went to an Oscar watching party and it was so much fun. But yeah, how.

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Speaker 1: About you are you? I'm kind of the same. Yeah, like I can. I can respect the art and all of the hard work that goes into filmmaking or into a song, but award shows are really hard for me to watch because they're very long.

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Speaker 2: There's so long.

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Speaker 1: But this this year's Oscars, Amy Schumer, Regina King, and Wanda Sykes. Yeah, oh my god, they were so funny, hilarious. No, they were amazing, Like they were like they decided to hire three women because it was cheaper than hiring one man, and.

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Speaker 2: I just loved.

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Speaker 1: Like I thought, I thought the Oscars did great this year with like bringing in some fun because I've watched Oscars before and it's super stuffy and yeah, like this looks like torture, Like even the people there look tortured.

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Speaker 2: And the funny, the funniest comedy has that hint of truth behind all of it.

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Speaker 1: It is true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's true, not just a hint that is like wildly true. Yeah, No, they killed it. They were great.

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Speaker 1: They were great Beyonce Slade. But that's like, not a shock to anybody, not.

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Speaker 2: A shock I missed that I showed up at the party late. Shocker Sundays I moved shocked by that, all right, Well, because it's not a shocker, because Sunday's I'm the slowest person you've ever I'm just like Sunday's my day to be slow, to be late, to be like sleeping in. I'm just I'm useless on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I'm useless most days.

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Speaker 2: Not true, Okay, wait, so obviously we have to talk about the Oscars moment, the slap heard around the world thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see it, but I woke up to a lot of texts that were like, please tell me that you saw it, and I was like, I did not see it because I was driving back from Newport Beach right to LA And you were the one that got to tell me because everyone told me do not google it. And I can honestly say I did it. Jessica told me. So you don't get to like so many people were wanting to be the first to tell me to tell you, But why, yeah, why.

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Speaker 2: That's so interesting. It's the same energy as like wanting to say, oh, I knew that band before. You knew that, like, oh yeah, the band's popular now, but I knew them before.

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Speaker 1: Like everyone saw it. I didn't get over it. Get over it all right.

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Speaker 2: It was so I had was home by then because shocking once again, I left the party early. Yea, But I feel like I did a good job telling you from like a non biased standpoint about how it went down. But it was like it was wild from what I told you. What do you think I mean?

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Speaker 1: Granted they are a bunch of actors, But then granted they are a bunch of actors, and usually with quote unquote scenes like that, there's like a double right in there, like if someone's actually getting hit or having to roll down a hill or whatever, like those actors are like, but good double bustle my face. So I just don't think that Chris Rock would be like, yes, and you're just gonna slap the shit out of you.

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Speaker 2: You're meaning like for anyone who says like I think it was set up, are there people that are saying yeah, yeah, Well at first it was like at first, like immediately after, people were like, oh, please, come on you guys, like come on the Oscars were down in views last year. You don't think they're gonna like.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny how people think. Yeah, And I am not comparing the Oscars to like vander Pump Rules in any in any way, so please know that, okay. But it's like when people say, oh, they did that because your ratings were down, it's like, no, this just happened, like I So for me, it's like, the Oscars aren't going to be like, Okay, someone needs to get beat the fuck out of right in order it just it's not gonna happen. Yeah, you know, like, oh shucks, views are down. No one is going to be assaulted right to bring up the ratings right, right, and if they need it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've seen them try and bring up the ratings before and they do their.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that does happen, but that ain't the way that they're trying to bring views in.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, and especially with someone like will Smith, because I think he's always been like he's always seemed to like push, love and push. But I do have to say I think they were both in the wrong. I think they were both in the wrong, and I think both of them can be wrong. And I think that it was a tasteless joke, and I think think that it was an absolutely wild and inappropriate response. And it makes me question because I've worked award shows. I've worked many award shows, never the Oscars, and there are rehearsals, there are things written on the teleprompter, these jokes and these lines go through so many people, and I think, you, guys, there wasn't one person, which there probably was, but they weren't at a high enough level to be taken seriously. But I'm like, there wasn't one person who was like, hmm, Jada Pinett Smith has come out and talked about her alopecia and how you know how that's been such a huge thing in her life. Let's not do this joke. Let's scratch this joke and change it up a little. I'm like, come on, you go what I don't know.

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Speaker 1: There's something about talking about someone's physical appearance that doesn't sit right with me.

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Speaker 2: It's hack, it's lazy, it feels lazy.

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Speaker 1: It's lazy. And again it's like Chadwick Boseman and everybody was commenting on his appearance and then he passes away. Yeah, hello, have we not learned anything enough? Of attacking people's whether they've shaved their head or they're looking thin, or they're looking like they've gained weight enough already.

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Speaker 3: Stop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it feels lazy. The writing of that feels lazy, and it feels like hack and comedians are so smart, writers are very smart. I feel like a lot of these people are too smart to be writing jokes like that, Like you're better than that, you are, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like being a comedian, it's me it's like intelligent work, yes, okay, And I just don't understand how In twenty twenty two, we're commenting on Jada Pinkett. Smith, by the way, is one of very few people that can look so beyond stunning breathtaking. It's like she's and the way she and Will maneuver through things is done with such elegance they manage to take, you know, like when she was talking about the entanglement, how the hell are you making entanglement sound like forty so fucking classy of you? I know, I know, And that's that's why, like I and I get what you mean when it's like they were both in the wrong meaning Will Smith and Chris Rock. Yeah, but I'm telling you what. There are times where people have done or said things to me and I'm like, you deserve to get the shit beat out of you. And there are things that I've done where people have commented you deserve to have the ship beat out of you. And there are times I agree. You can't put your hands on somebody, and I think the way to do it, which I'm learning is silence and pretending like someone doesn't exist. After that, like ha ha ha ha. And then Will Smith never giving Chris Rock the time of day after that, Yeah, is the most shade and the most badass thing that could ever happen.

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Speaker 2: Such shade. And also if he didn't want to do that, he would have gotten and this is just in my mind, he would have gotten his moment for justin he wanted Oscar after that, minutes after that, he would have gotten his moment to come up if he wanted to and be like this is about the Oscar. So grateful, but I'm gonna take ten seconds to say what Chris Rock just said about my wife? Whatever?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the end. You know what, though, can I tell you it's so hard to talk about what you would have done and how you would have reacted because when you're in that zone of someone attacking the person that you love, like Jada is his ride or die, mother of his children, the things that they've been through behind closed doors that none of us know. It's like you see red and you can't you can't come to the table with like this well thought out because like it takes over right and your heart is pounding and you can't think right, and there's some disconnect between what comes out of your mouth and what your mind is wanting to have happened your brain and your body, Like it's happened to me many many times.

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Speaker 2: Oh one hundred, it's happened to me over way smaller things, so I can't even imagine. And it was on TV where he laughs the first couple seconds. Granted some people are like, oh, that's an angry laugh. That's what I'm about to lose my shit laugh, and other people are like, no, he thought it was funny. And then he looked over at Jada and she just looked. There was something that came up like what a what a fucking low blow? Like really you're gonna And then I think that's when people said he just kind of turn, you know, like saw red.

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Speaker 1: So I have. I don't look it up. Now that I know what happened, I will be you doing this today.

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Speaker 2: You have to look it up. You have to look it up because, well simply because I just want to.

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Speaker 1: See your reaction. To be honest, I don't know I have. There's something about someone touching another person that sends me into like I feel ill.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the physical like physical harm.

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Speaker 1: Yes. Like I remember driving through this cute, cute fucking neighborhood. Okay, it was so cute, and then I roll up into where I hit Melrose and I see this group of people filming these two dudes beating each other up, and I wanted to get out of my car stop them from filming. It's like, this is not funny, this is not cool, this is like, we are not animals. Why are you touching another person?

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Speaker 2: It makes me sick to nauseous, like it makes me ill, and I'm angry to a level that it's like my thoughts. I'm like, whoa, I scare myself, Like when I see especially and I've told you this before with children and the elderly, you wanna, I mean, it's like the anger that bubbles up deep inside of me. I'm like, oh, okay, but whoa.

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Speaker 1: I know, like when I saw these two dudes fighting, I was like, I'm gonna come beat the fuck out of both of you. Yeah, because it's wrong. No, it's wrong.

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Speaker 2: And then you have people recording with their phones.

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Speaker 1: It's so it's so gross, Like let's just like not touch other people, yeah, in a harmful way, Like, let's just not do that. I feel like it's not a difficult thing. Yeah, it's not. Yeah. I pushed Kristen Dotie season four, Okay, And I was like when I woke up the next morning, Yeah, I have never been more disgusted in myself.

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Speaker 2: Wait, season four? Was that not sober Lalla?

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Speaker 1: No, okay, sober Lalla? Really sober Lalla happened? Season eight? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you pushed her. I can't remember this, I'm sure I've seen it. But was it like you guys were fighting arguing.

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Speaker 1: She had made a comment and I was and I was upset about what she had said, and my just initial drunken reaction was telling her to set the fuck down and then making her set the fuck down by shoving her. And I was like, what was that? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that crazy? And you think and you would like, I can't even picture you doing that. You think back of you think back at yourself at those times, and you're like, what on earth? I had gotten close to push my friend Angela. I'm going to her bachelort party and I like next weekend in a couple weekends, and we were roommates, and I remember your listeners will love this. I remember her going we were in a fight and like our girls like screaming fight, and there was five of us girls living in a house and I was yelling at her and I was like yelling at her, and she looked at me and she said.

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Speaker 1: Your voice is so annoying.

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Speaker 2: My ears are hurting. And I got so mad and I literally almost pushed her in my girl roommate like hands were up, and she just like drugged me back. And I think back to that time, I'm like I was gonna push her. What a crazy person.

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Speaker 1: Well, the any listener who's ever commented on your voice, you better watch out because Jessica will come and shove you or try to, so you better have someone there to stop her. Now you've asked her my picture, You're like such a little fairy. I could never picture you like wanting to shove something.

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Speaker 2: It was alcohol. It was like alcohol, It's just like you you know, it's released your inhibitions, feel the rein on your skin. It's just like, that's what I mean. I'm not like that anymore having cocktails.

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Speaker 1: But it's just you've grown up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know you're young and you're like feeling insecure. I'm so insecure about certain things. And it just made me like I'm so insecure. So I'm going to be louder and act like I'm not insecure at all, you know.

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Speaker 1: Oskad It is weird. I wear so much that I've done where I'm like, I could never ever imagine, like, who even is that person? I heard you had an amazing weekend at the beach. I did have an amazing weekend at the beach, so I was kind of, I'm not kind of. I was very bummed. So I was supposed to have the boobs done and the airpinned back on Friday, and all last week I was just not feeling good. I just was feeling under the weather. And then I look at my schedule and we have like, by the way, the paperback of Give Them La La, my book a national bestseller is coming out on April twelfth, so we have a lot of press coming up. Traveling that's happening, and I'm looking I'm feeling the way I'm feeling knowing okay, and keep in mind, like I've been under anesthesia before, but there's something about it that makes me nervous. Even though people go under all the time, it is such a small percent chance that you would not come out of it, right, But I have a little girl, and I'm like, I can't chance that I'm not feeling great. You're gonna put me into the deepest sleep I'll ever be in unless I'm dead. The only thing deeper than anesthesia is me being dead being dead. Okay. So I was like that, I don't like that. Then that paired with my schedule in us having to be back at work, which God forbid there's any complication I can miss out on work right now. And I just like took a minute and said, do we do this right now? Or are we rushing it? And there was something about I'm like, why am I feeling like having my boobs done in my earpinned back? Are I'm treating it like it's just no big deal? And it is no big like, it's not like I'm having some big surgery that.

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Speaker 2: Right, But anytime you'll go under anything, my parents say this, anytime you go under, it's a big deal.

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Speaker 1: It's a big deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I know people get their boobs done every second of the day, like whatever. Not really I'm not really sure how people are getting their boobs done a lot, but there's a lot of boob jobs happening, yes, okay, especially in La. Yeah. Correct. But I just was like, you know what, we're going to do this when we have some more like time where I can look at my schedule and I can say, this chunk of time, I'm not doing anything, don't bug me, I'm going to oh. And then the other thing I'm looking at, I'm looking at my freaking sheet of what to do and what not to do. It says avoid taking these over the counters for two weeks before you go in to surgery. And I last week or no, the week before was like constant migraine every day. So I was just popping advil like no one's business, trying to be a functioning person.

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Speaker 2: And that was on the list.

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Speaker 1: And that was on the freaking list, Like what am I doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no reason to rush it. I really like that decision that you made because why no, you're right. You want to feel one hundred percent. You don't want to be like, Okay, I have five days to heal, because God forbid, healing takes a little longer.

00:18:14
Speaker 1: Well, you know me, I am a fragile person. Like the tiniest little things take me out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're also kind of you're really dedicated to your work. And I have, like you've been having the worst migraine and I'm like, can we do this? And you're like, yeah, let's like get it done, get it over with. But you don't want to do that when your body is like you've had like actual incisions and your body's trying to heal. You don't want to be like whatever, let's just work. Like, no, you can't.

00:18:43
Speaker 1: So we pushed the surgery off until May and then and hopefully we get another season by then, and you guys can see my little transformation.

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Speaker 2: That would actually be great too. It like you're healing your transformation, yeah on the show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well my boobs, Jess, I can't even get cleavage because when moms have said to me, if you breastfeed your kids sucks the life out of them, They truly do. Yeah, what are these little half deflated water balloons? What even are they?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: And like the left one got so much bigger, and that's the one that ocean preferred, and that one's like sitting really pretty, but I can't get it up to be like sexy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, right, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: And then my ears. I've been so insecure about my left ear since the time I was a little kid. And there's so many insecurities that we all have. But I feel like as we get older, there are times where it's like I've now accepted it and I'm good with it. You know, it's cute now whatever, I can get over it. Still at the age of thirty one, I'm insecure about the left ear. So I said, fuck it, I'm getting it pinned back. I don't care.

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Speaker 2: We're doing it as you should. Yeah, what makes it feel good?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if we're if we film another season, if we another season, then obviously you know we'll have you guys will be able to see a little bit of my what is it called mommy makeover?

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Speaker 2: Mommy makeover and a lot of slicked back hairdoos with those new ears.

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Speaker 1: I know, yeah, that's gonna look nice. I can't wait. So yeah, I went down to Newport with Ocean. My mom's dear friend has a home there, and we stayed for five days and it was like the best. I left my phone. Yeah, I haven't done that in so.

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Speaker 2: Long, like just left it back at the house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I had my phone with me, but yeah, if we ventured out, it was like at the house, like, don't I don't need to look at it. Everything can wait. I haven't felt like anything could wait in a long time.

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Speaker 2: It's really important to do that. I'm a huge believer. Well I tell you, I'm like a big believer in mental health. Days and then just like unplugging, unplugged, get your brain back to like refresh yourself. You can be like on that phone, not you, but like you as in the general people can be on your phone and it's just it's like hours go by and it's work, it's personal stuff. And then you're like another day of spending eight hours on my phone or in my computer screen.

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Speaker 1: Well and you just realize after you've trolled the gram fifteen hundred times or you've looked at every text message and replied to it like you do feel different. You feel like someone has taken something from you. You feel depleted, you're on edge. You're wondering why you feel on edge. And for me, it goes back to you scrolled too much. Just scrolled too much, you know you scrolled.

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Speaker 2: Don't scroll too much.

00:21:36
Speaker 1: No, avoid the explore page at all costs. So today on the podcast, you guys know him as Manny Mu a makeup artist. God, I mean, he just knows the freaking face so well. But he's self taught. Wow, I didn't know that beyond Like I look at his stuff all the time and I'm like, it's just flawless, you know. And I like when because there's certain makeup artists where I'm like that's cool, But where am I gonna wear butterflies all over my face?

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Speaker 2: You know? Right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's cool to watch, but like, who's actually doing that? It's gonna yeah, right, So Manny does across the board, I'm gonna ask him, like, how does one contour a face? Because I'm still you know, I just like I contour the way that I just I know how and I think it works for my face. Yeah, but I just want to know, like the little details like what should one have at all times, Like what's the game changer where you don't have to put a lot of effort into it and you can just like feel sexy still. So I have all the questions for him. I'm super excited to have him on the podcast, especially because he also has a makeup line, and I think, you know, I'm the type of person where other people that have makeup brands or skincare lines like I don't see. I think there's enough for everybody.

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Speaker 3: M hm.

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Speaker 1: You know, like when you hear like, yes, this business is oversaturated, Like no, not really, yeah, not really. I encourage if you're interested in something and you want to start something, do it. And like there's no such thing as too many cooks in the kitchen, Like I want to pick your brain, how do you make your brand better? I just get inspired by people who are doing the damn thing. So he'll be on the podcast. I want to remind you guys that I'm going on motherfucking toy you motherfucking welcome. We're kicking off in Irvine, which I'm super excited about, and then the next stop is going to be Fort Lauderdale, Florida, which that's going to be a vibe. All the Florida dates are going to be a vibe. We've got Clearwater Orlando. Then I'm going to Atlanta, Georgia. We'll have fun guests there. We'll have fun guests everywhere. I'm super excited Nashville, New Orleans, Hugh Austin, and will wrap up in Dallas, Texas. So if you want to come and play with me, I would love to meet you. I would love to have the best time ever with you. Go to give Them Live dot com. I really can't wait to see you guys there. It is the Give Them La La brand new tour and reminder that my book Give Them Lala is now available in paperback, which is the best day ever for me because I don't really enjoy hardcovers.

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Speaker 2: Paperback's the best. I've said that I travel with paperback constantly because you can just like move it around. It's easier. I love folding back. Folding back.

00:24:37
Speaker 1: It shows me how far I'm getting. I'm like, oh, now I've got to fold it the other way. Yes, I'm so far into it. There's nothing better than flipping the page to a paperback book. And this one I'm super excited about because it has the stamp on it of national bestseller.

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Speaker 2: A gorgeous red stamp National bestseller. And also paperback smells better, you guys. And if you don't believe me, get my paperback book, and like it smells like the library.

00:25:05
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I just think I'm super proud of the book. I really am. And even though there's things in there where I'm like, wow, this is like a whole nother lifetime, it's just like it's a good read. It's a good read, and it's easy. I know you're all shocked by that when people say I loved it. I couldn't put it down. It was such an easy read. I know they're being kind like it was an easy read, because in my mind it was just that good. Yeah. But I'm like, no, it's like an easy read, you guys.

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Speaker 2: No, but it's it's also I'm so sorry, you guys. I'm gonna kiss Lalla's ass again. It was also just a I read it. I got hired with Laala, and then that next weekend I was gonna start and so I bought the book, read it, and it was a very good read. It's like page to page and then the chapter ends, and then you're like, but wait, and I'm not gonna stop at this chapter because like it's a cliffhanger on I go to the next. It's great.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you for saying that. I'm very proud of it. And yeah, you guys should buy it, just saying all right, so yeah, you guys should totally buy the paperback of my book, just to saying, show your girl a little bit more love because I need it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna take a shot. What is it with me and the singing song? It's because I have a kid, yeah, and so everything turns into a song. Anyway, we are going to cut to a brake. We'll be right back, all right, you guys, we're back, and I think everyone's going to freak out because we have Manny. I mean, come on, make up by Manny. I've loved you for a long time.

00:26:44
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. You're so freaking sweet. I really appreciate that.

00:26:47
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just honest. I just think you're fabulous. You're amazing at what you do, and I'm actually in awe and inspired with what you've created. So I want to deep dive into like when you discovered you were like, oh my gosh, makeup is my jam and we're running with it.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah. No.

00:27:04
Speaker 4: So for me, you know, I feel like I started in my makeup journey because I started like kind of doing drag a little bit.

00:27:11
Speaker 3: Okay, this is like ten years ago.

00:27:13
Speaker 4: So I had done drag a few times for friends birthdays or Halloween, and I enjoyed like the aspect of glamming, right. I loved glamming getting ready for it, but I didn't really love like wearing wigs and dresses and heels and nails and all that was just I was like, oh my god, this is like a lot. I really like the makeup. So the makeup is what kind of stuck to me, and I really really enjoyed that aspect of the transformation of getting ready. So that's kind of where I found like my love of makeup and trying it out, and that's like kind of where it really really started me.

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Speaker 3: Was like, kind of doing.

00:27:45
Speaker 1: Drag, were you always good at it or was it something that you like had to work at. I mean, you're fantastic at it now, but are you self taught?

00:27:53
Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 4: I'm self taught, like taught on YouTube. I actually so for me, it was weird. I actually feel like I always had like a very actual affinity for makeup, Like I was like, I mean my first photo was yeah, like they're not good, but I've seen much worse, you know what I mean? Like I wasn't like bad at it because I would also watch my mom glam, like when I was a baby and like when I was a little kid, and she would glam in the morning and she would glimb every single bation as a glam girl too. So I've always just been around it. My grandma was a hairdresser. I've always been around like the glam in my life.

00:28:21
Speaker 3: Okay, it just kind of came natural to me.

00:28:23
Speaker 1: And where did you grow up?

00:28:25
Speaker 3: I grew in San Diego, born and raised Lavissa.

00:28:28
Speaker 1: Born and raised San Diego. Talk me through what like that was? Like, do they haven't like when you, you know, get into your fabulousness and you do drag, Like are people looking at you crazy? Because I live I live in La I've lived here for quite some time. You know, we see drag all over the place and it's fabulous, But like, what was it like down there?

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Speaker 4: I would only go out and drag in the gay area in Hillcrest, which is like the kind of like the gay area of San Diego. And I live in La now, of course, but I was out there, you know, my whole life, and it was honestly being in California. I feel like I'm so lucky and so blessed being in southern California because I feel like I'm in.

00:29:04
Speaker 3: Like this like little liberal bubble.

00:29:06
Speaker 4: Right, and it's like it's not the same as if I would go in like let's say, Men of America going out and dragging might be a different situation. But because it was in San Diego and California, I mean, don't get me wrong, I still definitely got like weird stairs, especially when I worked at I worked at a Sephora and say JC Penny, my first like makeup job was a Sephora in said JC Penny. So I worked there and I would glam to work, but I would like go to the food court to get lunch, right right, Those walks from from fucking Jacy Penny all the way through the food court were long walk so that people be looking at me. They'd be staring at me, like very strange, especially like this is like eight years ago. Okay, so it just wasn't as seen to see boys with beards like wearing makeup, you know, So it definitely was like a very weird and odd thing in the beginning.

00:29:49
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, you're working at Sephora. Do they glam at Sephora? Listen to me, I'm a ninet year old. I'm like, do they glam in that in that place?

00:29:58
Speaker 3: Yes? Yes?

00:29:59
Speaker 4: No?

00:29:59
Speaker 3: So you people that station for.

00:30:02
Speaker 1: You, that was like the ultimate class, right. It was like every day you have people coming in asking what you're wearing. Like that kind of prepped you to be this like makeup mogul and starting your own beauty brand, which is called Lunar.

00:30:16
Speaker 3: Yes, liter Red. You're absolutely right.

00:30:18
Speaker 4: I feel like that's kind of what kind of started me off because I feel like I was working at Sephora and SoDC Penny and I was like loving in and that's kind of what taught me how to be into makeup and skincare and fragrance and that's kind of you know, support has everything, right, So I wasn't like a melting pot of so much.

00:30:33
Speaker 3: So I learned a lot from there.

00:30:34
Speaker 4: But then I started working at Mac and Mac was like more so about like artistry and like teaching me how to do makeup. And that's kind of where I learned the skills on that spectrum when it came to like actually doing makeup. So I was self taught and then I started working at these places where.

00:30:49
Speaker 3: I learned more.

00:30:50
Speaker 1: See for me, I'm a one trick pony when it comes to my my makeup. I'm like, if we're not doing the same thing every day, I don't know how to do it.

00:30:59
Speaker 3: You're over it?

00:30:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm over it. I've watched a million YouTube tutorials on how to contour properly. Manny, I still don't get that shit.

00:31:09
Speaker 3: You don't even need to Your cheeks are so good.

00:31:11
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, doctor Diamond.

00:31:14
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.

00:31:16
Speaker 1: Like the baking process. What when someone comes to you and they're like, I just want to know an everyday look where I can look fabulous. I don't have three hours to bake this space. Do you still have these tips where it's like, oh, we can glam you in fifteen minutes.

00:31:34
Speaker 4: Like there's always like there's always like little things you can do to just amp up your look already, Like adding blush is a big thing, Like adding a little bit of blush gives you like that like kind of rosiness back in the face. Adding some Meskira, adding some gloss, like doing like little things like that really make a huge Adding some concealer, right, make a huge difference to make you feel like an elevated version of yourself. So there's definitely like little tips and tricks you can do to make it look like, Oh, you put some work in, Like, for example, what I have on right now five minutes Max.

00:32:02
Speaker 1: What do you have on right now? Because you look amazing?

00:32:04
Speaker 3: Oh thank you.

00:32:05
Speaker 4: I really I just have like a tinte moistriiser on a little me con See, there's some blush, some faux freckles.

00:32:11
Speaker 3: It's some gloss and some gloss.

00:32:13
Speaker 1: Always have to have the gloss. I love that you're talking about blush because most people, at least for me and people that I've spoken to, when you think about blush, like I think about my mom and her friends going to clinique and getting that like bright pink blush, and you're like, oh my god, this is terrifying. Like what type of hue do you look for in your blush? Does it all depend on your skin tone? Because I tend to gravitate towards more of like a purple hue rather than the pink undertones. Yes, but like, how does someone choose a blush?

00:32:44
Speaker 4: Well, for me, I'm so all about, like, bitch, whatever, whatever the fuck you want to wear, you know, I'm like, if you want to wear an orange blush and you're pale as hell and wear the orange blush like, I don't care.

00:32:52
Speaker 1: I love you for that, that's a no.

00:32:55
Speaker 3: I love you too.

00:32:56
Speaker 4: But so for me, when it comes like, let's say color theory, if you really want to like get into it, I would say, for like fairer complexions like mine, sticking to like lighter pinks look really really good because it just kind of looks more natural, can you know? The more medium, more tanned, sticking to more orange undertones look really really nice on that complexion. So and like if your deeper, deeper in complexion, purples look really really good.

00:33:16
Speaker 3: So it just kind of.

00:33:16
Speaker 4: Depends on your scene tone in that way. But I'm so all about, like I literally don't care, like what's meant for my I will wear orange blushes, I'll wear purple blushes, I'll wear pinky blushes.

00:33:26
Speaker 3: Like I don't mind. I think for me, as long as I want to wear it, I'm gonna wear it. I love that, but really want it to be like, oh, well, what's works for me?

00:33:33
Speaker 4: You know a little bit more of pinky undertone because it's like cool tone, right, if your cooler tone pinks more cool tone than orange.

00:33:39
Speaker 3: Okay, so if you're warmer, the orange works better.

00:33:41
Speaker 1: Judging me through a zoom call, should I be avoiding the purply undertones?

00:33:48
Speaker 3: I don't think you should be avoiding them.

00:33:49
Speaker 4: I just think that if you wore like I would say for your scene to I think like the like apricot orange tones would look really really pretty.

00:33:57
Speaker 1: Okay, I can mess with that, but I love it. I'm the same way, Like I feel like if someone walks out of the house and everyone around is thinking like this is not a good look, but that person feels beautiful and amazing, I'm like, let let the motherfucker live.

00:34:11
Speaker 3: No, literally, like, let that bitch live. That's how I feel too.

00:34:13
Speaker 4: And I'll see it's so funny obviously on TikTok, Like I'll be scrolling on there and then I'll someone put together like the wackiest outfit ever and they love it. So much, and I'm just like, go you right, I would never wear it, But I'm like, as long as you're happy, like you rock that shit, you.

00:34:26
Speaker 1: Know, rock that shit. I want to deep dive into. First of all, your YouTube channel. Your views are insane, Oh thank you? How much time and commitment does it take to build that? I mean even your Instagram is insane, your following is insane. Like how much time do you take on a regular basis to just bang out content and looks like it looks exhausting and I'm fucking inspired and proud.

00:34:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it definitely it takes time. I'm not gonna lie like it.

00:34:55
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be like, oh my god, it's so hard when it's like there are harder jobs out there, know what I mean, Right, But it definitely does take a lot of time. It takes a lot of you know, energy to like put yourself into doing these situations, putting yourself into the content because you want to be the best.

00:35:10
Speaker 3: It can be, you know, of course.

00:35:12
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I mean I've been doing it for so long, since I was fourteen, so I've just been doing it for a good amount of time. I've kind of like have a rhythm down where it's like, Okay, I have like my content days where I'll be like filming a YouTube video, but I'm also going to like double dip and off on like an Instagram reel, but also to film with TikTok at the same time, just so I can like kind of get multiple things done instead of it just being like one after the other after the other. Like I'm like, no, I get busy. I have to like double dip when I'm doing content nowadays.

00:35:36
Speaker 1: Right, kill two birds or multiple birds with one stone? Yes?

00:35:40
Speaker 3: All five birds?

00:35:41
Speaker 1: Yeah? Five birds? Yeah. Do you do multiple looks? Because I can't imagine that. A lot of your looks are quick. I mean they're like you're taking your face which is then turned into a canvas and painting something beautiful onto it. Right, do you do multiple looks in one day? No? Fuck? No?

00:35:57
Speaker 4: I literally like no, no, no, you get the one and that's all you get.

00:36:00
Speaker 1: I feel like I look at your videos and I'm like, these are so spectacular. I first of all, I wouldn't even know where to start. So you you've built something incredible for yourself, and now you have lunar beauty. I want to know anything and everything there is to know.

00:36:17
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, Lunar Beauty has been like my passion project for years, right, I've been I've had it for years now and twenty eighteen, and it's just been like the coolest journey I've ever had because I've done collaborations with brands like I BET where it's like many Inuit X blank with the brands, and that's kind of where I have my passion for creating makeup specifically, And I was like, this is like my I feel like I'm a Pokemon evolving. I'm like, I want to go to the next thing, you know. And so it was like creating content was fun and I absolutely love it, and I still do that, but creating like product where people can actually enjoy it and they know that I put like my heart and soul into it, I just think that's so fun, you know, And I think that's it's probably one of the best things I've ever done with my life, because it truly is like such a passion of mine right to create makeup.

00:36:59
Speaker 1: It makes sense, you would, I mean, who knows makeup better than you? You're putting it on every day, I'm sure you can tell and you know, I have my beauty brand as well. It really is. It's a passion project. And you know, I can tell that you're like me, I'm not just going to put something out that I haven't tried, that I haven't formulated on my own exactly right. So I get that whole process, and I love that you go through that same process as well. What did you start with, Like when you first launched? What did you have? So?

00:37:29
Speaker 4: For me, I started off with a product called Life of Drag and it was a drag inspired palette because you know, my makeup journey started in drag. So it was like this half neutral, half bold kind of palate like anyone can kind of create anything. That was the whole point of it, right, And so I was kind of like an ode to like my beginning, right, It's like, okay, LiF's of Drag. It was really fun and it had like my eyes on it and drag and it was really cute for me. That was like my first wife was the first thing was that n shot of palette, you know, and so people loved it. They loved the formulation, you know, I worked. So I mean for me, like I literally am a beauty groul. I test product for a living. Right, that's literally what I do. So I think that a lot of people can put their trust in me when it comes to products that I create.

00:38:09
Speaker 3: Souse, I'm like, yo, I literally do this for a living, And if you trust my.

00:38:11
Speaker 4: Opinion, and if you think that I like good shit and I'll find good shit for you, then I'll make good shit.

00:38:16
Speaker 1: Too, of course.

00:38:17
Speaker 4: So that's of what it kind of started as I'm like passionate about this, I test make it for a living. You can trust that if I'm testing this all the time and I like it and it's good, chances are you're gonna like it a lot too.

00:38:29
Speaker 1: Of course, because you, like you said, you're a makeup guru, so you would know what people want to put on their face. Right, where did the name come from?

00:38:38
Speaker 4: So I feel like for me, like I've always been more inspired at nighttime, Like I'm like a night person. I'm not really like a morning person. I'm very much like I'll be awake late and like wake up late. So it's like for me, I've always just felt more inspired at night time, Like I felt a lot of ideas come at nighttime.

00:38:53
Speaker 3: And I was also hu trying to see the Moon when.

00:38:55
Speaker 4: I was younger, and it was like my favorite anime growing up, and so like the whole idea of like seeing Moon and like the nighttime, and so Lunar Beauty kind of just came to be when I was like, listen, I'm not gonna have a bitch that's going to be like like naming it after like man emuait beauty.

00:39:11
Speaker 3: Like I'm just like not like that, right.

00:39:12
Speaker 4: I wanted it to be its own thing in a weird way, you know where I was like, I wanted to do this sur vibe on its own, like and if people, let's say people didn't like me, but if you saw Lunar Beauty on its own, you can be like, oh wow, this brand is sickening without me being attached totally.

00:39:26
Speaker 1: For me, it was like I was creating this umbrella and wanted a bunch of things underneath it, and so it was just like everything is give them Laala, So it's give them Laala beauty, and right right, it's great. I love it. And the part where we get to like pick the packaging. I love that we can bond over.

00:39:42
Speaker 3: This, right Yeah, no, seriously, it's the best.

00:39:44
Speaker 1: It's the best. And the naming of the products, and then people that write like all of their reviews and you're just excited. So I totally get that entire process and you're killing it and I'm so honored to have you on this podcast.

00:39:57
Speaker 3: Thank you. No, it really is fun.

00:39:59
Speaker 4: I mean, you have a beauty brand, like you know, it's just a fun thing.

00:40:02
Speaker 1: It is fun, like a gott project. It is, and you wake up every day and you're excited to work Like that was my main thing. As my dad always said, make sure you find something that you love to do and make that your job.

00:40:13
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:40:14
Speaker 1: So I'm proud of us both.

00:40:15
Speaker 3: It's hard work, but does it feel like you're dragging on?

00:40:19
Speaker 1: Right? You're enjoying yourself. So my listeners, I'm assuming and if they're not like me, I'm sure there's a few that are like me, where I'm like, yeah, I think I know how to put my face together, but like, what are some of your biggest makeup tips that you see out there? And you're like, oh, good lord, if I could just teach them how to do these simple things to like really bring this together.

00:40:43
Speaker 4: I mean, for me, I think a really big thing is about being hydrated on the skin, Like that's like a huge thing that a.

00:40:49
Speaker 3: Lot of people like will kind of negate.

00:40:50
Speaker 4: Like a lot of times people won't really use an I cream in the morning before they probably concealer and it looks kind of cracky and kaki under the eyes, or you know, not drinking enough water in your skin looks really dry and thirsty, things like that. I think that the importance of like hydration, using like a really dewey setting miss at the end after everything's set in place to kind of give you that like healthy glow. I think it's really important to kind of bring the skin back. A lot of people will like set their face with powders and then leave it at that, and I'm like, you might want to bring you know, a little bit of moisture back in just to kind of make it not look so dry and make a bee and heavy.

00:41:24
Speaker 1: You know, like get rid of the cake.

00:41:25
Speaker 4: Look Honestly, like a huge scan of setting sprays, whether it's longer ones, you know, moisturizing ones, dewey ones. Just kind of adding that as a final step really does make a massive difference on the skin, especially when it comes to like, you know, wanting to look more on the natural side. Because obviously the skin naturally has a little bit of a do has a little bit of glow, has a little bit of.

00:41:44
Speaker 3: A something to it.

00:41:45
Speaker 4: Yeah, so when you take that away and it becomes all mad only it's like it's a little.

00:41:48
Speaker 1: Jarring, you know, Right, what about your tips for contouring? Can you tell them obsessed with the contouring? I love a good bone structure, No, I love, I love. Can you teach me, like, do you prefer a powder over a cream when it comes to contract book? Both? Okay, walk me through.

00:42:04
Speaker 4: So I always like, let's say I'm trying to find an example. I have like this product from Patrick Tod it's like a cream and powder.

00:42:10
Speaker 3: At the same time.

00:42:11
Speaker 1: Oh.

00:42:11
Speaker 4: So what I like to do is like, let's say if I take my like a brush, right it's on my Luna Beauty brushes, and.

00:42:15
Speaker 3: If I'm going from the top of my ear down to.

00:42:17
Speaker 4: My mouth, like if there's like an advisable line here, Okay, that's why I would probably place my product.

00:42:23
Speaker 1: All right, So I've already fucked up because.

00:42:26
Speaker 4: That's like where like that's like kind of like where it's like kind of just there, like that's where your bone is.

00:42:29
Speaker 1: Like you feel like your bone, and then there's like kind of like an indentation, sort of like you feel the bottom of it. Would you place it that's where it would go.

00:42:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll place like right there.

00:42:40
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, okay, right at the bottom of it, right at the bottom of like the cheek bone, and then.

00:42:44
Speaker 3: Blending and then always blending upwards, blending up.

00:42:48
Speaker 1: So I fucked up twice. Uh huh.

00:42:50
Speaker 4: So you're gonna blend the contour up instead of it down.

00:42:54
Speaker 1: Why is that?

00:42:55
Speaker 3: Because you want to.

00:42:56
Speaker 4: Give it a lift so instead of like bringing If you bring it down too far, it kind of drags your face a little lower. But if you kind of lift up and you go higher, it's gonna give a little bit more of a raised appearance. So I'll use cream first and then I'll set it with the powder so when you take photos, it doesn't get washed out when it's only powder. A lot of times you take a photo, it'ld be like washed out because it's like just powder on the skin, But a cream underneath the powder really reinforces the color.

00:43:20
Speaker 1: Okay, So do you do the cream over your foundation or do you build around or do the foundation?

00:43:27
Speaker 3: Yeah? Either, that's like that's sort of those steps like where it's just like personal preference.

00:43:31
Speaker 4: As long as a product is down, I will so I'll do I'll do foundation, and then I go right into bronzing before I even do concealer and stuff like that.

00:43:38
Speaker 3: So I'll go right into cream right after I do my foundation.

00:43:41
Speaker 1: Okay, And let me ask you this the contouring of the forehead, you know, how they go bring it up? Where where is it supposed to be placed?

00:43:50
Speaker 4: So actually, like a lot of people like, it's kind of depends on like the face shape.

00:43:53
Speaker 1: Okay.

00:43:53
Speaker 4: For me personally, I like to make my face just like a little smaller, you know, I want it to be a little more feminine, a little bit more honed in. So I like to it all around my temples. Okay, an imagine it's like going all around okay, because I wanted to look small. I wanted to be honed in here and like really bright in the center. So I literally do forehead temples and into the cheek. But it depends, like it's say, if you have a square forehead, you might want to just cut off here maybe give you like that kind of oval face. If you have more of a heart shape, just kind of putting it up here to kind of.

00:44:22
Speaker 1: Like right right where the hairline is one like the temples.

00:44:26
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:44:27
Speaker 4: So for me, because I'm a man and I have a bigger face, I want to kind of make it a little bit smaller, a little more oval. So that's why I put it there.

00:44:34
Speaker 1: Yes, give them that oval snatched love.

00:44:37
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm trying to get that over like that like little oval appearance. But and if you.

00:44:41
Speaker 4: Want that pulled out look, which a lot of people really love to, you do conto right here on the sides of the brow into the hairline, and then you leave this for concealer.

00:44:51
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you would take like the end of your your eyebrow right yep, and then the concealer right underh okay, yeah, give you.

00:45:01
Speaker 3: Give you that sweeped back look.

00:45:02
Speaker 1: Oh, give you that little bella hadid action with the eyes.

00:45:06
Speaker 3: Yeah exact.

00:45:07
Speaker 4: A lot of people are really really into that look right now too, which totally makes sense.

00:45:10
Speaker 3: That's gorgeous. Yeah, kind of leaving this part open for concealer.

00:45:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we can all avoid like threading our faces or having injections, you know, right. I feel like you can do so much with makeup, so many people are like, Laala got a nose job. I'm like, bitch, I learned how to contour that motherfucker.

00:45:27
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:45:27
Speaker 4: No, literally, I'm again a huge fan of conjuring my nose or I'll put like freckles down it to make it look smaller. Love love love making it look those small little baby nose.

00:45:37
Speaker 1: Yes, there's so much you can do with makeup where I'm like, you don't. I'm not knocking injections. Lalla loves her injections, right, but you can do so much with just like learning the technique of makeup totally.

00:45:48
Speaker 3: I mean that's literally like I built my entire career.

00:45:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, is making up so Yeah? Like manny, I can give myself some like pretty killer blow job lips with somelipliner.

00:45:57
Speaker 3: Oh my god, of course, are you kidding me? Some d yes, I do that. I always overdraw my top lip too.

00:46:04
Speaker 1: Always before I let you go? Where can people purchase your makeup? I know that most of my listeners don't live under a rock and know exactly where to find you, but still tell us anyway where we get your makeup. Where we find.

00:46:16
Speaker 4: You you can litery dot com. Okay, you know I'm like a direct to commerce kind of website. And then for me, if you man in, you a seven three three.

00:46:24
Speaker 1: Like on all platforms, all platforms.

00:46:26
Speaker 3: Do you find me on? Yeah, Instagram, TikTok.

00:46:29
Speaker 4: You know, as a social media and poser, like I got them all, you got them all, I got them all.

00:46:33
Speaker 3: Damn it.

00:46:34
Speaker 1: I deleted the Twitter because people were mean and I was like, this is hurtful. I'm deleting this ship.

00:46:39
Speaker 3: I'm over. I don't want to see this anymore.

00:46:40
Speaker 1: I was done with it.

00:46:42
Speaker 3: No, I feel you.

00:46:42
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you are a motherfucking vibe.

00:46:46
Speaker 3: We're both vibes.

00:46:48
Speaker 1: We are a vibe today, got a vibe. I am so happy that I got you on the podcast.

00:46:54
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it.

00:46:55
Speaker 1: Oh I'm going to be blowing up your d ms asking you for all the tips. You know.

00:46:59
Speaker 4: I'm a I have a podcast too. I'm obsessed with podcasts. Like it's been a newer journey for me. It's called full coverage. Oh l coverage me my best friend, Like we do like a little like every single week like podcast kind of thing.

00:47:11
Speaker 1: Oh my god, And what do you guys talk about? Like all things beauty or just anything and everything.

00:47:15
Speaker 4: No, actually we talk about like kind of current events, social media, what's happening in the space, like kind of talking about like all the tea going on. We do talk about beauty, of course, but for example, one of our last episodes about like the whole Kanye, Kim, Julia Fox, Pete Davidson like situation.

00:47:30
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a whole nother podcasts.

00:47:33
Speaker 3: And literally that's my podcast.

00:47:34
Speaker 1: Literally I love it. Thank you so much, Manny, And let's be in touch because you're going to teach me how to do all the things makeup that I've obviously been fucking much.

00:47:43
Speaker 3: I will, and you're going to learn quick I can tell.

00:47:45
Speaker 1: Thank you, babe, you're the best. And we'll talk to talk to Bye bye