Mets sign Devin Williams, Sonny Gray shades Yankees, Sheffield take us inside his Justin Bieber convo

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Speaker 1: Devin Williams to the New York Mets. Now, you played krats for David Stearns and Milwaukee. Correct, Okay, he didn't call you. He called Devin Williams and said, three years like fifty ish. There's all kinds of weird stuff in there with the furrals and bonuses and things, but three years fifty ish. It's ironic, isn't it. Devin Williams shows up with the Yankees last year, gets a lot of hate early on in the season, got better. Actually, his home road splits were drastic in favor of him being much better at home. He said he really loved New York and you gotta believe him now or maybe the Mets just paid him way more than everyone else. What do you think about the move?

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Speaker 2: I love that I get to talk about the whole New York not being a thing the reason, Like, it's not the city of New York that makes players bad. It's how you do in the field. Like, it's not the pressure of the spotlight. You could say he's soft or he's not soft. He can't handle any like I want to like disprove that as much as I can. I'll tell you what this couldn't have been probably more of a slam dunk. What does David Stearns do with pitching? How does he go and get pitching when he was in Milwaukee or in New York? Right or wrong? What does he do? Because he's had a track record this year didn't work for starting pitching, but he goes and finds places where you know what, this guy was undervalued because of this. This guy didn't do this. So let's just dive right into Devin Williams numbers with the Yankees. Why do you think he struggled? Wow, he was probably tipping. Yeah, oh so he just picked up a tip while he was in New York. Oh, the American League's tougher. Well, that's not the case. Oh L Central is tough. Wait no, THENL Central's not that tough. Or the fact that his change up percentage, which is his best pitch and is clearly one of his best pitches in baseball, was up almost ten percent to both lefties and righty's. The number is not quite ten percent, but he starts throwing way more of his best pitches, his best pitch, and so teams started to see it. So that could be just I mean, just a surface level. Hey, you know what, why could this guy do better than what he did? He could outperform what he did last year, like just his pitch usage, and who saw him use his pitches correctly and successfully and win the Trevor Hoffman Award.

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Speaker 3: David starts, Yeah, I don't know. Well, sorry I was listening.

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Speaker 4: Oh shit, Oh no, sorry, I've sang with Steve Perry.

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Speaker 5: My bad.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Devin, WiM's good for you, bro. For years fifty one million? Wow, coming off a down year. This is what people expected him to give off coming off a good year. So the biggest question to me is one usage, like Crats was talking about, but are they counting on him just having a bad year and he's going to bounce back?

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Speaker 3: And then two, what does this do for Edwin Diaz. I know they've come out said, oh we're gonna keep Edwin Diaz and it's not a big.

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Speaker 4: Deal, but do you really want to have to back end bullpen guys making over fifty million over life of a contract.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot for most teams. So the Mets can do it.

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Speaker 4: But happy for Devin, happy that the Mets believe he just had a down year. Happy for Mets, fans. But I mean, he didn't perform in the Yankees, so going to the Mets maybe less pressure.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But happy for your Devin. Fifty one million is nice.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Ja, you said you said this is what he would have gotten had he had a good year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean seventeen million dollars a year for I disagree. Pretty damn you thought would got more.

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Speaker 2: I thought he would have gotten more. I thought he would have been a five year I don't think he would have reached I don't think he would have reached the the hater status, you know, because they're linked because they're both Brewers. But I mean, you're talking about a guy who was one of the most shut down closers during his time in Milwaukee. I'm trying to see here the last once he became the closer, so it's basically three years he was a closer twenty two, twenty three, twenty four he had below a two er and his highest was a one to nine to three ra and punching out the world. Punching out the world. I get it he was hurt the year before, But like I thought he'd be a five year, five year, eighty ish million obviously, now it's at seventeen seventeen a year, so that might that might push it a little bit. But I thought he was that So I thought this for three years for the Mets, if he bounces back to where he was, is a great deal.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but what were you thinking if you just said five years eighty He got a better deal than that.

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Speaker 2: Right, No, No, no, five years. I thought he was. I thought he would his contract would go more than I mean, just all about the guaranteed him ount. I mean, he gets eighty eighty five. That's way more than fifty one. I get it. He gets him back to free ag this year.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: If this deal was so, he's getting three years seventeen, So if you had five years and thirty four more, that's eighty five. So this is right on target. I mean, I mean, really, five years for a lever is tough to find.

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Speaker 3: Other than Eater.

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Speaker 4: I know, I know Diaz looking for five years and one hundred probably, but he's like one of the ultimate closers of all time, Devin Wings coming off a bad year.

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Speaker 3: Three years fifty one, it's pretty damn good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but you've maybe gotten more if he was if he goes out and has a zero one two r A.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 4: Sure he might have gotten three years sixty, but three years fifty one for me is pretty good. Doesn't have to move either, He could just stay in the same place.

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Speaker 1: He said he loved taking the train to work, genuinely, he loved it.

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Speaker 3: Just switch his trains.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you do. You love taking the train to work?

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Speaker 3: Craft, I love.

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Speaker 2: I hated taking the train as a visiting player when I played there. I hated driving like it's a daily thing. Like I loved getting on the train, And I forget exactly which train goes to Yonkers, which train goes to seven?

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Speaker 3: And I think five is the Yankee stream.

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Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved it. I hated I hated driving around the city or taking ubers. After I played there for a little.

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Speaker 1: While, I believe it's isn't it four.

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Speaker 3: Seven sounds?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I get sick to trade much these days, even them in the city, because my drive to todd Father does not have a train in the cards when I'm commuting. No, they don't have trades down in Toms River anyway. Let's get some thoughts from the mets up hosts. They've been hot on many topics lately, and this is actually a rare move where they didn't like what David Stearns did. But here's just a little snippet of what they said about Devin Williams.

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Speaker 3: I got the numbers.

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Speaker 6: So Williams inherited six runners when he entered the game this season, he allowed zero to score.

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Speaker 3: I like hearing that. I think that's a good stat.

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Speaker 6: Williams left ten runners on when departing the next relievers are allowed seven of them to score, So seventy percent of the time when he left the game, the Yankees relievers allowed them to score one hundred percent of the time when he came into the game with inherited runners, none of them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So that was just a little clip of them going over inherited runners career worst for seven nine er for him. But if you listen to that whole episode, which I recommend, it's like twenty ish minutes, and they did it last night. They didn't love it. They thought it was okay, And of course we might as well push to the next part of the equation here, which AJ alluded to, what do you think happens? Do you think that this is insurance or that they genuinely are moving on from Edwin Diaz. My guess aj is that the reports are true. He wants another five years one hundred. The Mets don't want to give him that, and they're seeing if anyone else will give him that. And they probably have their numbers set. Whatever they set their line. Let's say it's for eighty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 4: Sure, I mean Diaz and Williams in the back end would be pretty nice. But can they get it done?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Is there another team out there? Is Will the Dodgers come charging in for Edwin Diaz?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Is there somebody out there that once and more than the Mets do? Apparently, because again they already have a guy that can close and can pitch late in the games, and then they can find some other guys. I think this is where David Searns tries to get cute sometimes, instead of just being like, you know what if we have Williams and DZ damn, that's a hell of a bullpen. But instead, you know, is he gonna try and get cute like you did with the starters last year? It didn't work out with the Frankie Montoss and all the people they brought in that weren't the best guys in the world instead of just going get the best guy.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, we'll see.

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Speaker 4: But what if I'm a Mets fan, Do I want DZ and Williams at the back end?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Hell yeah, because then it's like eighth is lockdown, ninth is lockdown. We can find someone for the sixth and the seventh, but then we also got to go get a starting pitcher. So I hope they sign them all. Like I said yesterday about the Yankees, you're the mess. You have the money, go sign everybody.

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Speaker 1: Blue Jays maybe maybe the Blue Jays go after someone like Edwin Diaz.

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Speaker 3: It seems like, what do you do with Hoffman? Then? What do you do with Hoffman?

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Speaker 1: Set up Man?

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Speaker 3: I mean to have problem to have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he excelled in Philly as the seventh eighth inning guy. They had Alvarado in the closer role. I get it. In the postseason, you know what, him and Strom gave it up, but they had he had his best, He had his best years as the seventh eighth inning guy. You know, he kind of shifted a little bit. He did close some, but it was mostly that Strom seventh Hoffman eighth or Hoffman seventh, Straw eight.

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Speaker 1: They might have been a diez away from a World Series win just now. I mean, Hoppin was good for the rest of.

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Speaker 3: The playoffs, wasn't the problem now, But he gave.

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Speaker 1: Up one homer that that did end up costing them, among many other she use that arose.

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Speaker 4: You can make a lot of arguments of this and that and blah blah blah if you lose the World Series.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, come on, he was pretty good for I know he gave it even in the regular season. He wasn't the problem.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not knocking that part. The one other thing to keep in mind here in terms of what the Mets do, and really what any team that has a lot of money does, is that you can't necessarily build a super bowlpen in the off season. I feel like the Dodgers tried to do that a little bit last offseason with Kirby Yates Tanner Scott, and then they weren't factors at all. Because I always think about this a jam, like why isn't every team just try to do what the Padres do? But it's such a vowable market. Yeah, it's not easy to do. It's actually easier to do it often at the trade deadline because you're like, Okay, this dude's clicking this year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because listen, one of the most volatile things in baseball is relievers. Some years they're up here. Some years they go like this. They it's like, oh, look at this guy, he's the best reliever in baseball.

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Speaker 3: And they named Devin Williams. Who good.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Budge Nexter, we think he's gonna be good. I mean, it goes like this, and the great ones, the Marianos, the Haters, the hoff Trevor Hoffman's, those guys, their ups and downs are so much smaller.

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Speaker 3: But so many bullpen guys go like this. It's it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: If you look at the numbers, how many guys fluctuate by a run or two era every year.

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Speaker 3: Oh I had a good year, bad year, good year, bad year, good year, bad year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he said.

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Speaker 1: That's what he said.

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Speaker 2: That's what he said.

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Speaker 1: That's what he said. Sonny Gray is now a member of the Boston Red Sox and he is amped about it. He did not hesitate when the Cardinals called and said, hey, you want to wave your not trade clause for the Red Sox. Why guys, because he has a case of the Eraaldus Chapman syndrome. And you know what that is. That is a player who used to play for the Yankees but now kind of hates them. So let's roll tweets. Three that stand out here from the press conference. This is Gabrielle Star. Sonny Gray said it was an immediate yes when told it was the Red Sox who wanted him, because he had to wave his no trade And he mentioned Steven Matth telling him it was a great experience and the Red Sox having Grek Crochet and a lot of young talent, Okay, and that gets juicier here he said he did not have a good experience with the Yankees. Quote, I never wanted to go there in the first place, but I do appreciate my time there. And then Tim Healy also with this tweet on Gray said he's looking forward to the rivalry with the Yanks. Quote it feels good to me to go to a place where it's easy to hate the Yankees.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Aj Sonny Gray really hated playing with Kratz that much.

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Speaker 4: He did, I mean it was all Krats's fault, I think is what he said, and that's what I read out of that article, was that Kratz was a bad game caller and couldn't frame was what he said. I thought, I swear I read that somewhere in there. But no, I mean, listen, we all know Sonny Gray hated his time. I don't know about Krats, but we all have that place that we played where you're like, wasn't really a fit.

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Speaker 3: I have mine. I'm sure Krats maybe has one or two. I have mine that.

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Speaker 4: Was like, eh, that wasn't really a fit and didn't work out fine, But usually don't go public firing on the whole thing. But Sonny Gray did it. You know why because he's a Red Sox now and you know who he gets to play thirteen times a year, the Yankees, So now he gets to take his shots, and Chapman's on the same team, and good for them, Like, this is what baseball needs, this is.

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Speaker 5: What we want.

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Speaker 3: We want more people to be honest and also we want rivalries to be great. So good for you, Sonny Gray.

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Speaker 4: Let's not criticize him at all. I mean, other than the fact that he got on Crafts. But other than that, it was a great thing.

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Speaker 2: Well, good news was it wasn't my catching that bothered him, because that year when we played together, I just sat the bench the whole time for the month that I was there. But I can tell you the reason he probably didn't want to go to the Yankees was because he had a trade and extension deal worked out with another team. So when Sunny Gray comes on, well, Scott put down a note remember to ask that, so that we asked that question of him. But I think some of these quotes were a little tied together here. I think there was a little bit like he didn't accept the deal because I want to get back at the Yankees. I think Chappie wanted to get back of the Yankees, and that's why he took the Red Sox deal. I think Sonny Gray sees what this team is doing, sees what they did last year, knows they're going to continue to push, knows he's not going to need to be the number one guy, and the fact that he can contribute to a playoff team who needs to continue to take the next steps. That's why. And he got a few troll shots in.

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Speaker 1: I like that, though I totally disagree with you Kratz. I think he cannot wait to shove it to Yankee fans. Remember maybe first Yeah twenty eighteen booed off during about adding and he had been booed off many times prior third inning against Baltimore speaking of my nerdy notes, Well, smirk and that took over the tabloids for a week. Sonny Gray, smirk, what is it? And how rude of him? Blah blah blah. So you agree on that one, right, he cannot I agree, try and shove it to Yankee fans because he hated the way that they booed him.

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Speaker 2: I had. It's only a two hour show, but I have to be very specific. There are Yankee fans and then there's a Yankee organization, and I think Chappy Eradus Chapman was a little bit more mad at the Yankee organization and maybe this gee, these words from Sonny Gray were focused more on Yankee fans.

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Speaker 1: Bingo And what was the thing you wanted me to ask him?

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Speaker 5: For real?

00:16:54
Speaker 1: What do you want me to write down?

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Speaker 2: The pre trade extension that he had he had worked essentially they worked out with another team and then the Yankees came in and traded.

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Speaker 1: For Wow that actually is pretty juicy right there.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm, it wasn't. Can we not get the answer?

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Speaker 1: Do we know who the team was? Are we allowed?

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Speaker 2: I am about eighty five percent sure I remember the team. So that's why I didn't say what the team was. But so I have a division. I had to give us a division. It was a division. But it's all speculation if I don't. If I'm like Ken, I gotta get it one hundred percent across the line before I say it. So when when Sonny comes on, we'll ask him. But it was not in It was not in the Yankees division.

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Speaker 1: Ironic that mister conspiracy theory, which I happen to love, won't give us his eighty five percent likelihood because it makes sunny, do it? I get it will make.

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Speaker 2: Sunny because it was his words. It was his words, not mine. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say definitively it was this team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll make we'll ask Sonny when he comes on at some point. I don't know if you were on with us, AJ, and now I think you're trying to talk to us, but AJ, but.

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Speaker 4: If you had to guess, would you say it was the Reds or the Cubs or the Giant.

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Speaker 2: It was if you had an eighty guess it was.

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Speaker 3: Was it the Marlins? Was it the Race?

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Speaker 4: Was it the Marlins marl was it expos Was it the Nationals?

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Speaker 3: Was it the.

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Speaker 2: Completely different landscape of a team?

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Speaker 1: True? Hey, wait a j I don't know if you were He's not going to say, Adrian, I don't know if you were on with us when the great deal happened. But what do you think about this for Boston, especially as you see that starting pitching is going to be expensive? We knew that, but Dylan ce is getting a good chunk of change in the free agent market, means it's not going to be cheap to get a picture like that. I'm not necessarily comping Sonny Gray to Dylan Cees, but Sonny Gray is a very serves a bule mid rotation starter. Who if he has another nice year, right, I know he was okay last year, but if he has a nice year, he could pitch in a playoff game for Boston. There were many fans like I was disagreeing with on social media that were like, he can't pitch a playoff game. I'm like, yes, he can.

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Speaker 4: Yes, he can, he can't. He won't be a one or two. But didn't Craig Breslow say we're only looking for ones or twos? Isn't that what his quote was? Nothing against Sonny Gray. I love Sonny Gray and when he came on, he was awesome. So when we're in Boston camp, I'll make sure that I make him come on, unlike Kratz and Cardinals camp. But couldn't get him to come on, and they were teammates.

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Speaker 3: I don't get it. Maybe that's why he didn't like Kratz. I don't know, but I'm just gonna say this, okay.

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Speaker 4: Is I think Sonny Gray is a nice three to four and he can pitch it. He'll give you a five solid innings most of the time. If you're looking for seven to eight, might be stretching a little bit. But if he gets in his routine, and he has a very strict routine starting from like four hours before the game, if he gets in that routine and everything goes right, he can give you five to six solid innings and he could be great at times. But is he the one or two that Craig Brezilo said the Red Sox need.

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Speaker 3: I'm not so sure about that, but he'd be a solid starter for it.

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Speaker 4: And yes, he can start a playoff game in an LCS or a World series. He could be a three or four. He could give you a Max Sure's Er gave the Blue Jays. He can give you what you know, Shane Bieber gave the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 3: Can you do that? Absolutely, But he's not going to give you nine innings?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt And most don't. Right, how many guys do you really trust in the playoffs to go deep into games and get through a third, fourth, whatever time through the orders. So I don't know. I felt like some people probably loved the deal, some people that were against it, and like it's like a one year twenty years.

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Speaker 3: Some people are going to be against anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. Yeah, oh man, you should see Padres twitter about Dylan Cees. They're like, if Ruben Diablo can't fix him, nobody can. I'm like, all right, relax, that's a little bit much. They're like, he's cooked, he's inconsistent, he'll never have it, blah blah blah. I'm like, okay, let's not act like this guy's never had good seasons before. His best seasons actually were before San Diego.

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Speaker 3: So maybe Ruban Dieblo didn't fix him. Maybe he was Ethan Katz that had the magic touch with him. I don't know. Listen, Blue Jay's got something. And Pete Walker you know him, you know him walk Democrats. Pete Walker's pretty damn good.

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Speaker 4: He's fixed a lot of guys. I mean, not every guy agrees and does everything that. Every team says. You got two hundred and ten million two according to Scott, but it's just two ten in the contract. Reason to figure it out.

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Speaker 3: You got a lot of hate mail.

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Speaker 1: No, you did think you got one dollar? You think one dollar in eighteen hundred, nineteen hundred, twenty twenty twenty five is all the same money you got.

00:21:54
Speaker 4: Never say that now, Never did I say that, Never ever have I ever?

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00:23:09
Speaker 2: A J can't hear anything, So I'll tell you the Gary Sheffield otherwise known as Bug AJ has nothing, so we never get we never get to hear anything. But our street cred just went way up because Chef is on the show.

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Speaker 1: Chef, good to see you man, How you doing?

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Speaker 5: I see you?

00:23:27
Speaker 7: I just popped my head in the grove and ran to a J. I was in there shopping.

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Speaker 1: You can't hide these days, chef. Basically one event and you and you turn, you might see AJ with a mic and then get caught exactly. Yeah, well, how's the off season going for you? I mean obviously watching all the trades and signings going on, any observations so far?

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Speaker 7: You know, schore Bert I just told you know they talk about the Phillies, going back to the Phillies.

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Speaker 5: I just think that he's the perfect fit for the Mets and that's why I have him.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Okay do you think Yeah, so we were going to get into this, and it's actually good to ask you and AJ, and maybe you can ask AJ after you answer. But there was like a story this past week in the New York Post about, oh, you know, maybe some of the Mets players aren't getting along like you know, Jeff McNeil and Lindor went at it again. Don't you think some of that is good for a team to shake it up a little bit?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely?

00:24:30
Speaker 7: I mean that that tells me they're holding each other accountable. That's what it means to me. You know, you're gonna have teammates that don't get along, that's okay, but you have to have that enforcer to make sure that everybody has the one goal in mind, that's to win.

00:24:45
Speaker 1: So outside of that, who cares.

00:24:48
Speaker 2: Wait to me? Everybody needs an enforcer. But Chef, did you ever play? Who was that guy for you? Because some people will look at Chef and be like, including our EP executive producer, he's scared of Chef, he's scared of you. Okay, So who was the enforcer for you? Who is the guy that would make sure you didn't get out of line? Because you're not perfect, not everybody's perfect, and somebody's got to be able to have the kahones to step up and say, well, whoa chef? Who is that guy for you?

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Speaker 7: Every teammate, every teammate, every teammates get the same treatment. So if you talk to me, I get to because it's that we all is want we want.

00:25:28
Speaker 5: And when we go into the in.

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Speaker 7: The locker room, if somebody see that I'm not doing what I'm supposed to be doing, they should have called me out and vice versa. And I think that that makes for a healthy team because that way the manager can't he can't see everything.

00:25:42
Speaker 1: The coaches can't see everything.

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Speaker 5: You have to police each other.

00:25:46
Speaker 2: Love that. Why do you think, why do you think Schwarber is a good fit for the Mets over over any other team.

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Speaker 7: Well, I just think that the amount of home runs he's hitting at the top of the lineup, I think he'll balance that lineup even better than Peter Alonzo. I think, yeah, you have a guy hitting in the middle of the lineup, But the way the game is played nowadays, hitting deep in the lineup and turning that lineup over is the most important thing.

00:26:14
Speaker 5: And when you're.

00:26:15
Speaker 7: Hitting fourth and fifth, you're kind of irrelevant at that position. You know, you need the one, two, and three guy to have all the juice in your lineup because the way the game is played now, you just want to keep the lineup turning over so those guys could get back up there, all.

00:26:29
Speaker 3: Right, before you let me, before we let you go, I think you can hear me.

00:26:33
Speaker 4: Yeah, if with your waggle the way you waggled your bat, people, it's an iconic stance of all stances.

00:26:40
Speaker 3: Could you hit in today's game throwing guys throwing a hundred?

00:26:42
Speaker 5: Absolutely?

00:26:43
Speaker 7: And that's I Me and my son was talking about this yesterday, and I told him velocity is easy to hit.

00:26:48
Speaker 5: That's the easiest part to hit.

00:26:50
Speaker 7: All the movement that they throw, and they talk about the spin and all of that, I'll have.

00:26:56
Speaker 5: I'll have a lot of these hitters.

00:26:58
Speaker 7: I mean these pictures like Sodo, you know, he has a lot of these pictures behind in the count. If you don't chase, then average picture, because you have a lot of velocity, become below average. And so you can take the top picture right now, right and say who is this guy? And you'll say the guy from Detroit, the guy from Pittsburgh. And basically what you do is make those guys two pitch pictures. All you have to do is make those guys two pitch pictures. And and the pitch that they'd like to put you away with. Tell yourself, I'm not swinging at that pitch. I know what it looks like, i know what it does. I'm not even attempting to swing at that pitch because you can't hit it.

00:27:40
Speaker 5: So you make him a two pitch picture. You make it, you bring them closer to you.

00:27:44
Speaker 4: You're smart, by the way, and I love what he talks about it.

00:27:51
Speaker 1: I do too. I can and listen to it all day. We'll let you go on this chef. So it was an awesome world series. I'm sure you enjoyed it. We haven't had you on since I haven't senior since then. What were you talking to Justin Bieber about? We got a good shot of you and be.

00:28:07
Speaker 5: Well.

00:28:08
Speaker 1: But didn't they say like, oh, there's Bieber And I was like, no, there's chef.

00:28:12
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:28:12
Speaker 7: Yeah, they they noticed him at a baseball game and not me. But that's okay. I was I was doing a good deed.

00:28:18
Speaker 5: You know.

00:28:19
Speaker 7: He was a kid that he talked about. He had a new born. I think it's about his kid is one years old. He was talking about that and how he wanted to get his life on the right track and get it the way it needs to be. And I told him, you know, it's not about your failures in life, it's about your redemption. And I think God has given you another chance to your kids and and so don't ruin it for them. And so that's basically what we talked about. It was all about the family, you know, Haley and his and his wife and his kid. It was all about them, you know, doing it for them. And he wants to do better. That's really cool. That's good stuff family advice to.

00:28:59
Speaker 5: Yeah of it.

00:29:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it went very viral. Well, chef, good to see you man. Keep giving AJ a hard time out there, and we'll see. Will you hit the winter meetings by the way, will we see you there?

00:29:10
Speaker 5: Uh no, I'm going to Miami right now.

00:29:12
Speaker 7: I'm heading down there to a couple of golf tournaments Melbourne Golf and DJ Cally.

00:29:19
Speaker 5: Well they invited me at the last minute.

00:29:21
Speaker 7: So yeah, so I said, I told my wife. I said, I'm getting in the car and I'm gone. So I say, let me stop over the grove and get something to eat and shop a little bit. And I ran into AJ and here we are there you go.

00:29:35
Speaker 5: I love it.

00:29:36
Speaker 1: We'll have fun down there, all right.

00:29:37
Speaker 5: Good to see you appreciate it. Thank you. Guys.

00:29:40
Speaker 2: You're blaming.

00:29:41
Speaker 6: You're saying Francisco indoors relationship with Jeff mcgeeal and wansto doom the season and then you click it. And I also think it's incredibly, incredibly lazy and like some other stuff I won't claim here to be like Wan Soda is a hard working guy Francisco Indoor all. He cares about fashion, makes it seem like Francisco Indoor is not really worried about what's going on the field to see my Francisco Lindor, unlike Wan Soda, which is crazy because the original witch hunt was Juan Soto not being motivated to come play for this team. Now it's Soto is the motivated one. Lindor worries about fashion, that's his big thing, and that feels so fucking lazy.

00:30:14
Speaker 8: Especially when part of the thesis from the first part of this article was about Lindor being too intense about what was going on in the field, letting it defensive laps his frustration boil over after that, but rating a teammate, so it just kind of they kind of lose a point. Ins You kind of go back and forth in between what all this could have been.

00:30:28
Speaker 6: It feels like it's been written at different times and it got put together, which.

00:30:31
Speaker 8: Is also possible, Like that's also kind of it. And then again, I want to go back to Dsha articles. It's a great reporting this article. We hope to have Dshaw on the show soon. Last year was Winter Meeting, so maybe we can make that annual thing. But Lindor talking about Sodo here He's completely different than how I was talking about how he responds to his first season with the club. I tried to hug too much, and he has a good understanding of what he can hug and stay within that. He hasn't changed once, So he's definitely head of where I was and ahead of his age too. It's like understanding that these guys could possibly have not they don't they They probably aren't best friends.

00:31:01
Speaker 6: I think we're pretty certain these two guys are not best friends. Yeah, I'd be making bets that they are. I think realistically they are coworkers. I think they work on the same team together and they're trying to accomplish the same thing, which is when getting games for the New York Mets. There's also like gets underscored a little bit too. There's a variety in difference in these guys too, just personally, Like Jan Sota is a twenty six year old, twenty seven year old who just got seven hundred million dollars and we've known that. Like he pretty much like goes home and watches baseball like he's just baseball, baseball, baseball. He really doesn't do much. He has been out on the town recently, but he really isn't doing much during the season.

00:31:37
Speaker 1: That's good stuff from Mark and James on Mets Uff. They were talking about the article in the New York Post from Mike Puma about the Mets getting into it a little bit with Jeff McNeil and Francisco Lindor part two this past season mid season, and then also the difference between Lindor and so that, Yeah, that one definitely sounds like quite a stretch revealed. And remember the New York Post does put flashy headlines out there. That's just part of their mo so I wouldn't be that surprised about that part of it. If you know their themes, this is how they put titles out there. Lindor McNeil battled again and met shortstops. Chili rapport with Soto helped doom twenty twenty five season. I want to put like a dot dot dot and David Stearns did not believe in buying big starters.

00:32:26
Speaker 2: That's it.

00:32:27
Speaker 5: Stop.

00:32:27
Speaker 3: It's like stop it stop.

00:32:30
Speaker 2: It's like it's like AJ's favorite movie, Moneyball. They didn't say anything about Zeno, Mouler, and Hudson. This article is sallacious because they didn't talk about the fact that they went forty three straight games without a starter going past the fifth inning, Like, let's just let's call spade a spade, that's what doomed the season. And oh yeah, they were still one game out of making the playoffs. So if you don't think the Mets are going to be back next year and playoff contending team, and you're wrong because they can't. Never say this, but they can't be as bad starting pitching as they were this past year.

00:33:08
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna I'm gonna add one more thing to this. Where are the quotes from McNeil. Where are the quotes from Lindor? Do we have quotes from them in this article.

00:33:15
Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk about that though, I'm gonna.

00:33:18
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so I have, so then why not but at least go to him and say, hey, Lindor just declined to comment or McNeil declined to comment, or Sodo declined to comment. Because we showed the tweets of a guy who once wrote an article about me without asking me. His name is Andrew Baggerley. Why not ask the guy? Why not go to the player and say, hey, I'm hearing this about you before I write this article, let me let yourself defend you. But instead they want to get the headlines. And that's I don't care about this. I honestly don't care about this. And we listen. Chef just came on and Chef said, what happens. We won the World Series in two thousand and five and it wasn't all roses and you know, pedals and everything whatever you want want to say, butterflies and happiness. I mean, there was arguments, but amongst players. Hell, we tried to kick off the Marcel Marte. Well not us, but Ozzie in kicked off the Marcel Marte in the middle of the season. And then the players were like, hey, we kind of need them, can we bring them back?

00:34:14
Speaker 3: And He's like, oh yeah, okay. But anyways, like it's not like so this is a non story to me.

00:34:20
Speaker 4: Here's the thing about and this is one of the reasons why I respect Ken and so many reporters out there. Go to the player and ask the player. Ask Jef McNeil, call him. You can get his number. Call Francisco Lindor for call Won Soto and say, hey, man, before I write this article, I want to talk to you. If you don't do it. To me, the story's Nolan Void. But that's the way reporters work certain ones, and if you don't do it the right way, to me, it's Nolan Voyd.

00:34:45
Speaker 1: I want to We're getting close to the show, so I want to get to this part too. For what's the beef? Did you guys see the brandon Neimo comments when he was in his intro virtual presser kind of thing. I felt like you got like a little subtle shot out there. Nimo is very very media savvy, he's a very nice guy. He's always available whatever. So I thought this was this was cute, this was clever. Let's run this.

00:35:09
Speaker 9: You know, the pitching is really the first thing that you need to have, and some guys like to call it run prevention. And when you can, when you, you know, combine the pitching with the defense.

00:35:20
Speaker 1: And what I saw was that is.

00:35:22
Speaker 9: Already there and you're not You're not losing a lot of pieces of that. And I think that that's something that Sey really prides himself on and that's good.

00:35:35
Speaker 1: So for context here, when David Stearns, the Mets president baseball ops, had his press conference after the season, talking about what went wrong, He said the words run prevention a billion times, which, to me and to many on social media cringe, like, let's just say pitching in defense the run prevention thing, like you want to say it sometimes okay, but over and over again. AJ, that was Nemo taking a shot at his former team. Your run prevention sucked, and that's why I got a phone call and asked to waive my no trade clause and move on to a team that has run prevention and also is going to make me millions of dollars more since I'm moving to Texas with no state income tax on my contract.

00:36:12
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, and I like it. You know, he don't play for the Mets anymore. Take your shots. Take your shot, boys, He's not going back to the Mets anytime soon. He's got a long term deal. They asked him to move his no trade.

00:36:24
Speaker 3: He did it.

00:36:24
Speaker 4: Good for you, Brandon Nimmo. And if you feel like it was a shot at you, personally, fire back, dude, fire away.

00:36:30
Speaker 3: Boys.

00:36:31
Speaker 5: I love this.

00:36:31
Speaker 4: Yeah, we want more, We want more of this, and we're getting it.

00:36:35
Speaker 3: And then everyone's like, oh, why is he so bitter? Screw that man?

00:36:39
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:36:39
Speaker 1: Also, it's not like he was he wasn't the problem. He had a good offensive season. He was fine.

00:36:46
Speaker 2: It was great. That's why the Rangers one of them. They didn't have offense. The Rangers are locked in on run prevention. Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna dog him all. You know, his defense has really declined and all that stuff. The Ragers need to hit the base ball. That is why they got him. So good for him. Talk to his boy de Gram says it's awesome over here. Says, you're gonna save fourteen point two percent on your every year's contract, so that'll be a few million back in your pockets.

00:37:20
Speaker 1: Very nice. Yeah, life's gonna be good for Brandon Nemo and never hurts to have an extra little chip on your shoulder. You get a phone call from the team you think you're gonna basically retire with, and they're like, we're gonna trade you. We want to switch things up, and you're like, me, me evolved the switching up you're going to do. But anyway, let's slap all right, let's see krats hats and then we'll show you one story on the way out here.

00:37:54
Speaker 2: I mean, our boy Max Wontcie. Another epic, Another epic time on the show, like he's always so good. So I found my Dodgers had I had to wear it for him. Dodger Blue World Series, Chap Pats.

00:38:07
Speaker 3: And Chef Chef liked your Dodger had to go. He's got Dodger hat on just for you, and he's like, he's a closet Dodger fan.

00:38:14
Speaker 1: I've been called worse Chef's Hollywood. I mean, he's given Bieber advice that was freaking epic right there.

00:38:20
Speaker 3: Did you ask him about that?

00:38:22
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, that's why I asked him. Dude, I asked him so I couldn't. I forgot so I said, hey, well, I said World Series was lit, but like little underrated story. Was you sitting next to Biber for one of the games and he told him he taught him. He was talking to him about, you know, redemption and how to you know, be the best dad he could be, all that kind of stuff.

00:38:41
Speaker 5: It was really good.

00:38:41
Speaker 1: It was really cool. Well, trust me, that clip will get some play.

00:38:45
Speaker 5: That clip.

00:38:45
Speaker 1: We'll see that clip on Twitter soon.

00:38:47
Speaker 4: By the way, when we were talking about the Mets on on certain that's Mets Instagram Twitter, they're talking about Juan Soto.

00:38:55
Speaker 3: He looks jack, dude, the season ended a month ago. Bro, two months ago. You can't get jacked into much crowds. Tell them you can't just like change your body in two months now. Please explain this to people.

00:39:06
Speaker 2: Not at this time, not in this era of baseball, you cannot. There is no detops warrior diet, nothing like that. So relax with that.

00:39:18
Speaker 1: Sitting in Jim hard. But yes, times have changed a little bit in that regard. Yeah, if you do some some things that were done more frequently in the nineties and early two thousands, so you can get dracked pretty quickly. I saw it in my high school. But anyway, all right, let's say bye, we've got I remember i'd work out with the football players. I'm like, how are they doing this? And then like way after this was my freshman year, someone whispering me. He was like, that guy's on steroids.

00:39:47
Speaker 3: I was like, hey, kid, work Scott Scott, Who's on tomorrow?

00:39:54
Speaker 1: Matt Boyd?

00:39:56
Speaker 3: Who else?

00:39:59
Speaker 5: Am I missing someone?

00:40:00
Speaker 1: Why do you know someone coming on tomorrow.

00:40:02
Speaker 4: I'm gonna see you tomorrow if I can get a certain multiple time saw a Young Award winner to join us.

00:40:09
Speaker 1: Oh this is our his initials M S.

00:40:15
Speaker 3: M and he has different colored eyes.

00:40:17
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I like that little teaser.

00:40:21
Speaker 4: Everyone then so, I mean today today was chef and brad hand.

00:40:26
Speaker 3: Tomorrow could be everyone somewhere else. Get him, do it,