Xavier Becerra scrubs it into third place

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Speaker 1: And very happy Monday to you. At twelve six in the West, it's the Giant Phillips Show, broadcasting live from the state of California. We are back in the Golden State, mister Randy Weggs in Culver City, John.

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Speaker 2: Another one has bit the dust, boring Betty Betty Yee announced this morning that she is giving up on her bid to be governor of California. Notably, she's been the candidate running the longest. She started her campaign in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I don't understand. Why would you pull the plug at this point? You've been running since twenty twenty four. Your name is going to appear on the ballot anyway. My guess is you're going to get one percent whether you drop out or nod. So it's not like it's going to impact how many votes are taken away from the candidates. And right now the deck is shuffling where Eric Swalwell dropped out. A lot of Democratic voters are shopping for other candidates. Why would you kill off your campaign right now, just when you may have an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Well, we are about to get into debate season. There is the next Star Debate this week there's the CBS debate next week at Promoter College, and she's not pulling well enough to get invited to either of those. So I think at some point you got to realize this is not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Maybe she figured, all right, my Southwest tickets are refundable, let's just call it quits.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe she cut a deal with another candidate. Maybe, you know, we haven't seen if she's endorsing anybody yet. Remember when Ian Calderon dropped out, he endorsed Swallwell, how'd that work out for him? The problem is you have to have something to offer, and if you're at one percent, I don't necessarily think.

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Speaker 1: You have much to offer.

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Speaker 2: Those boring Betty supporters are up for grabs, all five of them, and.

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Speaker 1: They all wear the glasses too well. One of the candidates who has been moving up in recent polls is the former Secretary of Health and Education Services Jabbier Bakaria for.

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Speaker 3: Secretary of Health and Educations over I nominated Jabbier Bakaria and Randy.

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Speaker 1: There are even rumors that are swirling that he could be the candidate that Gavin Newsom ultimately ends up getting behind.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, of all of these people. Gavin likes Besara.

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Speaker 1: Scrub it not Nancy Pelosi, she hates them.

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Speaker 2: That's right. When Besarah got nominated to the Biden administration, Pelosi was pissed that nobody talked to her about it because she thinks he's a buffoon.

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Speaker 1: Well, that buffoon may become her governor.

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Speaker 2: Javier Bessera got a big bump in the latest next Our poll, the poll that qualifies people for the debate this week, which means on Wednesday, Bakaia is going to be on the debate stage, and everyone's being like, what's going on with Bakaia? Well, Bakaia sat down with Alex Michaelson of CNN. Notably, Bakaria when he announced he was running for governor, sat down with Alex Michaelson of then Fox eleven and said, this nonsense a thousand times, but.

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Speaker 1: When you do the scrub, that was the worst interview I've ever seen a politician give launching a campaign.

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Speaker 2: In this cycle. And we have played and I have listened to even more interviews that we have not played on the air. That is, hands down, the worst interview I have ever heard of anybody that's been running for this governor. Seat.

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Speaker 1: It was as if he didn't even bother to read the newspaper before he sat down for the interview.

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Speaker 4: Scrub it.

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Speaker 2: And he said scrub it over and over and over again. And the funny thing is he was so sure that was gonna be his campaign slogan. Alex does the interview, we cover it, the weekend passes by, and he scrubs the phrase scrub it from his campaign scrub it.

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Speaker 1: He came off like a dental hygienist.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's see how things go now. As Javier Bessera six down with Alex Michaelson of the story is, by the way, Alex will be on this show at one thirty. But here is Besarah and Alex.

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Speaker 5: Javier Bessara, welcome to the story is for the first time. Good to see you, Nice to.

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Speaker 1: Have you here.

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Speaker 5: Why do you think you, in particular of all the candidates are sort of getting this second look in this bump right now.

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Speaker 2: We should point out that is one poll, so it could be an outlier. He could he could be on the debate stage on Wednesday and a new poll comes out showing him back in the low single digits.

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Speaker 1: Well, he is entirely underwhelming. So if he's doing well in one poll when people take a look at him, that may be.

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Speaker 6: I think folks feel very deceived and voters want to see someone they can trust. It's a tough time in politics, and I believe voters.

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Speaker 2: I was in Congress for twenty years. I didn't never snapchat my interns.

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Speaker 1: What a low bar he's setting. He didn't slip someone a mickey, so he should be governor of California.

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Speaker 6: It's a tough time in politics, and I believe voters are looking for someone that they can trust. And I believe one thing that makes him have that trust is experience. And I think if I have something in it's experience.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean a resume of these very, very big jobs. And yet we've seen in the months that you know, voters have not been paying Peckle's attention to this race. About twenty percent of the electric still undecided. Governor Newsom maybe one of them. CNN's Edward Isaac Dovera reported this this week and put up on the screen. According to people who've spoken to him, Newsom feels just as blase as many Californians about their choices for a larger than life job. Once held by Ronald Reagan and Arnold Schwarzenegger.

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Speaker 2: Well, and it goes deeper than that. The staffer that talk to CNN specifically talks about every single one of Gavin's gripes with every single candidate that's still on the stage.

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Speaker 1: And Gavin thought that Javier Bacheria was an awful attorney general.

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Speaker 2: And he said Katie Porter would drive business out of the state.

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Speaker 1: Along with the population.

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Speaker 5: And that traditionally has been the governor of California. Are you larger than life? And what do you say to critics who say you're too boring for this job?

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Speaker 2: Well, now that Betty's out of the race, he can brand himself as boring.

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Speaker 1: Bacheria, I'm alive.

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Speaker 4: I could tell you that, Alex. What I can tell you is I get the job done. I may not.

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Speaker 1: The cliche, it must come with that job of being Attorney General of California. There must be something in the water fountain up there, Bob Bonta.

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Speaker 6: I may not be the flashiest, I'm sure certainly not the richest, but I certainly know how to get things done.

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Speaker 5: In terms of the big issues, gas prices remains a huge issue. We want to put up on the screen. The gas prices right now in California. The national average is four oh seven, which is way up since the war with Iran started. In California, we're at five eighty.

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Speaker 2: Five where in like the Central Valley, because it's six point fifty in La.

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Speaker 1: How about at that one station on Los Enego.

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Speaker 2: That one's always extremely high. The Gordon ones at nine to ninety nine. And I was actually driving around yesterday. Do you see what diesel is up to in California?

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Speaker 1: Diesel is cl crazy expensive right now.

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Speaker 2: I was on Balboa and Roscoe, and I saw two gas stations back to back where the diesel was over eight dollars a gallon. And when diesel is eight dollars a gallon, that means your eggs are going up.

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Speaker 1: My god, just hearing you mentioned diesel reminds me. I have a friend who just went to a wedding in Portugal and he drives a Tesla here, which means he never puts gasoline in the car at all. And he was driving to this wedding and wine country in this rental car and then all of a sudden the car breaks down, so he calls the car rental company and he tells them to come pick up their piece of bleed car and bring him a new one. And as it turns out, the car broke because he put diesel in a car that doesn't take it.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 5: And the gas tax in California is sixty one cents a gallon, and the mayor of San Jose, fellow Democrat who's running, has said we should suspend the gas tax temporarily to try to give Californian some relief. You agree with that.

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Speaker 4: How about we suspend Donald Trump?

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Speaker 1: He really is dim, isn't he?

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Speaker 2: Look? Obviously all of these people have accomplished something in their lives. I'm just going by what I hear in these interviews. But Sarah does not come off as a smart person.

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Speaker 1: No, No, he comes off with someone who has the IQ of an ice cube.

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Speaker 6: In August, and we can bring the price of gas down much more than the sixty one cents that we get from the gas tax.

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Speaker 4: If you don't have a gas tax, how do you keep.

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Speaker 6: Your roads repaired? How do you build the bridges that you need? How do you fill the potholes?

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Speaker 2: The gas tax only brings in eight billion dollars of our three hundred and fifty billion dollar budget. There's money in a whole bunch of places.

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Speaker 1: And the gas tax goes to the general fund, does it not. Yes, they'd like to trick us into thinking that the gas tax goes to the roads. It doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Well, and let's not forget the gas tax is one piece of it. But you also have cap and trade and all the climate standards that add another dollar to that gas price as well. And the reason that you're paying more for gas is so cap and invest can spend a billion dollars a year on high speed rail.

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Speaker 5: I mean, what Mayheon would say is that the gas tax is actually not very helpful. When say, folks like have the money to buy evs, they're not now paying for gas.

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Speaker 2: So Alex, don't screw me over, dude, I don't want to pay anything. They're already talking about a vehicle matlo Is travel tax. So the electric car owners that were told, hey, save the planet, you're going to have to pay too.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but Randy, at some point the bell tolls for THEE.

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Speaker 2: I will, and I'll be honest about this. Electric cars are much heavier, which means that they do a lot more wear and tear on the roads. So you do have a whole bunch of cyber trucks that aren't paying Jack to destroy the roads that they're driving on.

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Speaker 1: Oh those things look military grade.

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Speaker 2: It might go down in history as this generation's most ugly car. And I do not understand the appeal of it.

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Speaker 1: It looks like something from the future.

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Speaker 5: So we got to redo this, make this more progressive.

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Speaker 2: And all Elon said, you know what I'm gonna do. This generation's DeLorean. So we got to read don't do ketamine kids.

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Speaker 5: So we got to redo this, make this more progressive. And a lot of folks who have to buy gas vehicles because they can't afford the other are now paying the gas tax.

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Speaker 4: Whether it's an electric vehicle or not. You're using the roads.

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Speaker 6: The gas tax provides us with the resources to fix the roads, to build the roads.

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Speaker 2: Have you been on our roads?

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Speaker 1: But Sarah, it's like driving on the surface of the moon.

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Speaker 2: If you drive on the one to one freeway in between Ventura and Santa Barbara, you will see a stretch of freeway that has been under construction for the last fifteen years and it never seems to finish. And it never seems to actually move. But there's a whole bunch of signs saying this project is paid for by SB one.

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Speaker 1: There are fewer craters on Manuel Noriega's face.

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Speaker 6: How do you do that if you don't have money? And it's crazy. The gas tax hasn't changed in the last two months.

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Speaker 2: The gas tax goes up every single year because it's tied to inflation, which it also causes. But here we go, Besarah gonna die on the hill of the gas tax, and this is the guy who's surging.

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Speaker 1: You know, if he was an attractive woman, everyone would assume that he slept his way to the top.

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Speaker 6: It's crazy. The gas tax hasn't changed in the last two months. The last two months, we've seen massive increases because of things like this Iran war.

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Speaker 2: Let's tackle that's true, that's definitely true. But one of the other things that's going to drive up the cost even more is the new California Air Resources Board fuel standards that were voted on by the legislature. But these are issues you would have to have known about if you paid any attention to what was going on in California, which Bisera has not.

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Speaker 1: And the war in Iran has nothing to do with why gas is more expensive in California than Texas, and sometimes they lose track of that.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you want to have a deeper conversation here, part of the reason that our prices are going even higher, and you have seen spikes in other states, But again the average is about four dollars. I think in New Mexico it was still under four. Is that we get eighty percent of our gasoline from other countries.

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Speaker 1: Why can't he scrub that tax?

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Speaker 6: But when you do the scrub, let's tackle what's really causing prices to spike. And if you want to suspend anything, as I said, suspend the guy who took us to a war.

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Speaker 1: You're doing that catchphrase twice. I think he did it in another interview too. I think that's his a material.

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Speaker 2: He is one of these guys where if you listen to a whole bunch of interviews of him back to back to back to back, it is the same canned response for everything. He does not have an authentic bone in his body.

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Speaker 5: Although a lot of other states pay lower gas taxes and they still have roads that work.

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Speaker 2: Fact check true.

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Speaker 1: Good point. Elex Uh Joe.

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Speaker 4: Let's go take a look and compare.

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, it was just out of state. And guess what. The roads were smooth in Arizona, and they were smooth in New Mexico.

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Speaker 2: They're all smoother in states that have snow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, explain that. Bakarrhea, Uh Joe, let's go take a look and compare.

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Speaker 5: Okay, let's talk about the biggest issue in this race. Every single candidate, Republican and Democrat, see, the biggest issue is affordability. That is just too expensive to live in California. We know they have a different style than everybody else and different resume, but in terms of actual policies, what is one policy difference of you versus everybody else in the field in terms of making it cheaper to live in California.

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Speaker 4: So one of the exive said is that we've lost This is.

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Speaker 2: Just something that drives me crazy. And I've heard him say it. I've heard Viergosa say it, I've heard Steier say it. Something that only a politician says when being asked a question is well, what I have said is who talks like that?

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Speaker 1: Nobody.

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Speaker 2: So one of the exive said it, to his credit, Gavin doesn't do that.

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Speaker 1: No, he has different tics.

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Speaker 6: So one of the exac set is that we've lost the confidence of voters that will actually get things done.

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Speaker 2: And give me four years.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I would like to think we're not suicidal enough to elect this guy, but who knows.

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Speaker 2: We've got a lot more of Alexmichaelson. Sit down with the new surging candidate and by the way, surging for what tied with Katie Porter for third place.

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Speaker 4: But when you do the scrub.

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Speaker 2: Javier Bacheria, when we come.

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Speaker 1: Right now, we're going through the sound of CNN's interview with Javier Bacharia, who is the new candidate surging in the polls and the race for governor scrub.

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Speaker 2: It surging to third place, tied with Katie Porter.

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Speaker 1: Hey. Didn't Bill Clinton call himself the comeback kid after he came in second in New Hampshire.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to Elex.

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Speaker 4: So one of the exive set is that we've lost it.

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Speaker 2: So this question is about how are you gonna make things more affordable?

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Speaker 6: So one of the exive set is that we've lost the confidence of voters that will actually get things done. So one of the things that I've said that I would do is there we know that there are some four to five hundred housing developments that are on the verge of being shovel in ground, that there's something missing. What I've said is within my first one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Days, he just said what I've said about four times and he still hasn't said what he's going to say again.

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Speaker 1: Not bright.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to take it all the look at all those projects stuff total of about forty thousand housing units in those projects, and I will get them clicked over. So we have shovel in ground because they are shovel ready.

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Speaker 2: So if it's that simple, why isn't Gavin doing that right now?

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Speaker 1: And by the way, think about this for a second. Our population is in free fall. Why aren't there vacancies everywhere? Oh?

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Speaker 2: There are, there, definitely are. I mean, if you're looking to buy or rent a house, just go on zillow or apartment what have you. There are plenty of places to live in. They're all still very expensive. I don't know how many it is you have to build for those prices to come down. But then you run to another situation for the people that have lived here in our homeowners, do they really want you building three million more houses and their property values go down? Some to think about.

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Speaker 4: Because they are shovel ready except for something missing.

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Speaker 2: Probably have we bought so many houses that my property values went down to where it's less than what I paid for it. That's not good And that's what would happen if we went on a building spree.

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Speaker 4: Because they are shovel ready except for something missing.

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Speaker 2: Part of the reason that all these three or four bedroom beaters in the valley are worth a million dollars is because nobody wants to build homes well. And it's part of the reason why people, and let's say Santa Barbara don't want developers to be able to build anything.

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Speaker 6: Because they are shovel ready except for something missing, probably the last trant of funding.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's at last permit.

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Speaker 6: But why hold up forty thousand units when everyone's saying the price of housing is so high, we have such a demand that that increases the price of what we have in supply.

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Speaker 5: Do you think there's too many regulations in this state and that makes it hard to build and makes it more expensive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in many areas that's true.

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Speaker 5: So what are some of the regulations to cut.

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Speaker 6: Well, we have started to trim back what we call the California Environmental Quality Act, which really does control how we do some of our projects.

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Speaker 4: We could trim that and.

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Speaker 2: It allows anybody, including people that aren't in this state, to sue and stop any development from happening.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that SEQUA needs to be rained in. I think SEQUA needs to go the way of the DODO. Same thing with the Coastal Commission.

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Speaker 4: We could trim that.

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Speaker 2: See the Coastal Commission told Long Beach they can't have their fireworks show.

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Speaker 1: Do they ever make the news for doing anything smart?

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Speaker 2: Nope? And Gavin's press office said, hey, this isn't us. We're gonna look into it. But Gavin appoints the Coastal Commission.

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Speaker 4: We could trim that back.

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Speaker 6: What we have to do is accelerate the process of developers don't have to wait so long to get permission and then to have finish the build.

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Speaker 4: And we also have to.

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Speaker 6: Remove some of the barriers that are put up by local government as well.

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Speaker 5: Everybody sort of looking, well.

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Speaker 2: We just did that. Scott Wieder took away local zoning with SB seventy nine comes into effect in July. We'll see if it actually does anything.

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Speaker 5: Everybody's sort of looking at everybody's background right now. And you had an incident with your former chief of staff, Sean McCluskey, who pled guilty to committing wirefraud and bank fraud. Prosecutors say that he conspired with Governor Newsom's then chief of staff Dane and Williamson.

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Speaker 2: Dana got a shout out cheers.

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Speaker 5: Governor Newsom's then chief of staff, Dane and Williamson to steal two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars from a dormant campaign of yours campaign account. Now, you have not been charged with any wrongdoing. Nobody suggested that you did anything illegal, right, but it does raise some questions about your judgment.

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Speaker 2: Now, we're not saying that you stole any money, but you decided to trust the person who did steal your money. So what does that say about you.

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Speaker 5: In terms of this is somebody that you empowered, somebody you were close with, somebody you trusted, and this was your campaign that you were overseeing. What do you say to critics that are worried that they hear that you oversaw that. Well, I didn't oversee that part, Alex. What I oversaw was the campaign itself, the stress.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't paying attention to all those receipts that said they kept going to Mexico.

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Speaker 1: Okay, keep in mind, the knock on him is that the California Department of Justice was a disaster under him. The Department of Health and Human Services was a disaster under him, and his campaigns were all horribly mismanaged. Don't forget. It's not like he ran for attorney general as a member of Congress. He was appointed to be attorney general by then Governor Jerry Brown. He would have never been able to get that position had he not been appointed.

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Speaker 2: And in fact, correct me if I'm wrong. But when Jerry Brown appointed him, he wasn't even a practicing attorney in the state of California.

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Speaker 1: No, I think he had to go get his bar card back.

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Speaker 4: Well, I didn't oversee that part, Alex.

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Speaker 2: Plain there. Someday someone needs to a deep dive into exactly why Bessara was appointed by Brown for ag and why Bonta was appointed by Gavin for Aga, because those are some strange appointments.

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Speaker 1: Neither one of them makes sense.

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Speaker 6: Well, I didn't oversee that part, Alex. What I oversaw was the campaign itself, the structure. What was done outside of the structure, how that money was used is what's now under attack.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that, danis all my money to buy a bunch of fancy handbags.

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Speaker 1: Didn't you go on a vacation to Cabo too?

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Speaker 6: Yes, and under investigation by the Department of Justice, I had no sight on that because I.

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Speaker 1: Was think she got the drink baggage. Oh on all inclusive. Probably there were you.

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Speaker 6: And under investigation by the Department of Justice. I had no sight on that because I was a Secretary of Health and Human Services.

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Speaker 4: That was done separately.

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Speaker 2: Wait, that wasn't your job.

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Speaker 3: For Secretary of Health and Educations ever, I nominated Hobbier Bakaria.

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Speaker 6: That's it Health and Human Services. That was done separately. And so the reason I haven't been implicated in this because it's I had no role in those things. When people do something wrong, you have to be held accountable. I think everyone agrees. No one's above the law.

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Speaker 5: I mean, what does it say about your judgment that this was somebody who was so close with that you made as one of your top advisors.

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Speaker 1: People make mistakes, That's quite an answer. People make it perfect.

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Speaker 4: People make mistakes.

00:26:10
Speaker 6: Probably in our family you can think of people who've made mistakes. We all make mistakes. I wish they hadn't made the mistakes. Some folks are going to pay the price.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of HHS, you were the secretary of the last Secretary of the HHS's very different. Speaking of HHS, you were the secretary of the last secretary of the CHHS, it's very different than the current secretary of as.

00:26:28
Speaker 2: This week, Yeah, I don't think Besara ever cut off a raccoon's penis.

00:26:33
Speaker 1: Are you sure?

00:26:36
Speaker 2: I don't know for sure, but I'm going to go on on a limb and say he didn't.

00:26:40
Speaker 1: Do you think Katie Porter has.

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Speaker 4: This week?

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Speaker 5: It was interesting he was on the hill and it seems like he's moved a little bit Robert F. Kennedy Junior in terms of his views on the measles vaccine, saying that it's safe for some people, which is a bit of a change in his position. What do you think of what he's doing? And probably more important, if you're governor of California and he's Secretary of State, what is the relationship.

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Speaker 1: Like Secretary of Health?

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Speaker 2: I mean, we all knew what he meant, not grampy Joe.

00:27:11
Speaker 5: What is the relationship like between California and HHS.

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Speaker 6: Well, the relationship will continue because we rely on HHS to provide his resources with opportunities to try to provide healthcare to our people. What we won't do is follow him when he uses politics instead of science. We should do our We should base our actions on science. Measles, we know how to take care of measos a vaccinate.

00:27:33
Speaker 1: Mind you, he was the Secretary of Health and Human Services during COVID, when they gave us all kinds of great advice like shut the schools down and arrest the windsurfers.

00:27:44
Speaker 2: Well, yes, but a lot of that also happened during twenty twenty they got into twenty twenty one. You can blame both administrations for all that nonsense.

00:27:55
Speaker 1: But to act as if he was a smashing success as Secretary of Health and Human Services is nuts. He was always regarded as one of the weak links in that administration.

00:28:08
Speaker 6: A vaccine that's worked for decades should be used by our children. This guy is out there telling people you should think about whether you should get your kids vaccinated. Kids have died this in the last couple of years, act least under the Trump watch, during the time that this guy's been saying, you may not have to give your kids a measles vaccine.

00:28:26
Speaker 4: That's crazy. Science has proved it saves lives.

00:28:31
Speaker 5: Lastly, let's talk about sort of the state of this race. Debates are about to begin. You just qualified for a debate that's going to be happening next week on Next Star. We've got a debate on CNN on May fifth, Caitln Collins and myself will be moderating it.

00:28:44
Speaker 2: It's three weeks in a row of debates. This week you got the one that's going to be on Next Star, So that's Kate Cla in Los Angeles, that's kron for in the Bay Area, Fox forty and Sacramento. Then next week you got one on all the CBS stations, and then the week after that you got one on CNN and Randy, You and I are going to the one in Claremont. We are it's going to be at Pomona College and we just got invited to watch the debate.

00:29:09
Speaker 5: We've got a debate on CNN on May fifth, Caitlin Collins and myself will be moderating it. How do you sort of see your debate strategy, how you fit in on that stage, and how do you sort of see the next few weeks as we approach ballots going out on May fourth?

00:29:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you right now. Here's a preview. Because I've heard him in a lot of forums. He likes to call himself the healthcare Governor, and I still don't know what that means.

00:29:33
Speaker 1: Well, if it makes you feel aity better, neither disease.

00:29:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, Alex, I think it's the public first and foremost. Give them credit. They're now beginning to focus on a race.

00:29:43
Speaker 2: They were focusing on the sex scandal.

00:29:46
Speaker 1: Could we check in with the average California voter?

00:29:49
Speaker 2: All right, we are two weeks away from the ballots being in your mailbox. What do you guys think?

00:29:55
Speaker 4: No, I don't know enough to give you any good information, but good luck finding someone who does.

00:30:02
Speaker 1: And there lies the problem.

00:30:04
Speaker 4: They're now beginning to focus on the race. They've been bored.

00:30:07
Speaker 2: But could you ask them the name of every contestant on Netflix's season two of Temptation Island. They'll know it.

00:30:14
Speaker 6: They're now beginning to focus on a race. They've been barraged by so much news all over the world. What I think is going to happen is folks are gonna.

00:30:21
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny too. There is only so much attention people can have. And Gavin will even admit he was sucking all the oxygen out of the room and no one was paying attention to the governor's race because he was taking up all of the people's attention in this state with his nonsense.

00:30:38
Speaker 1: Well, Eric Swollwell did find a way to pique our interest.

00:30:42
Speaker 6: What I think is going to happen is folks are going to make an assessment in these times of crises. Do they want someone who's gonna need training wheels when they walk into the governor's office. I don't think this is a place, the governor's office, the fourth largest economy of the world, to actually go through onto job training. You got to walk in there having dealt with crises. I happened to have dealt with a number of crises, COVID, AVM flu, monkey pox.

00:31:06
Speaker 2: Wait, I thought, said we can't call it that anymore.

00:31:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, why is it that we can't call it monkey box? She says, we have to call it empox? Yeah, what is it offensive to Bonobo's Well?

00:31:20
Speaker 2: And apparently when the monkey pox thing was happening, or excuse me, MPOs that was the first time Farrara sent out one of those flyers during Pride, the ones that we can't read on the air.

00:31:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, where she got real filthy on how to properly disinfect your marital aids.

00:31:42
Speaker 4: I have tech issues.

00:31:44
Speaker 6: I happened to have dealt with a number of crisis COVID, AVM, flu, monkey pox. I've had to deal with situations where I've had to declare a national emergency. I'm the only candidate could say that.

00:31:54
Speaker 4: I'm President.

00:31:55
Speaker 5: Biden declared it.

00:31:56
Speaker 6: Well, I'm saying, of the candidates, well, yeah, no, I declared, I'll say to help the emergency.

00:32:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I didn't even know who you were, didn't know your name, didn't know your job.

00:32:06
Speaker 6: I had the power to declare this, obviously working with a White House, but I'm the one that declared him.

00:32:10
Speaker 4: I'd also say this, there's no candidate running.

00:32:13
Speaker 2: Another thing that human beings do not say. There's no reason anyone in a conversation interviewer otherwise says things like this, unless you're a hack politician.

00:32:23
Speaker 4: I'd also say this, that's just not.

00:32:27
Speaker 2: There's no reason to say that. Just say the thing that you're saying. This is quite frankly on steroids.

00:32:34
Speaker 6: There's no candidate running for governor in California who's actually balanced a budget the size of the budget of the state of California except me. In fact, my budget was larger than the budget of the state of.

00:32:43
Speaker 2: Caltiic Well Tony V could say that, but California's budget in two thousand and two was much smaller than it is now, much much, much smaller.

00:32:52
Speaker 6: In fact, my budget was larger than the budget of the state of California.

00:32:55
Speaker 4: Four years I bought balanced.

00:32:56
Speaker 2: Wait, isn't that the budget where they're finding all kinds of fraud now?

00:32:59
Speaker 1: Oh?

00:32:59
Speaker 6: Yeah, four years I bought balanced it.

00:33:03
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:33:04
Speaker 2: There were a whole lot of investigations in a hospice fraud when Bakaria was running the thing.

00:33:11
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what he's going to run on. When he was Secretary of Health and Human Services, people were checking out a hospice care right and left.

00:33:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, those are the things.

00:33:21
Speaker 2: He was such a good health secretary that people survived being in hospice, especially in Los Angeles, at insane rates that you never ever ever believe, but it happened.

00:33:34
Speaker 6: Yeah, those are the things that I thy people will start to look at and if they really do want someone who can day one take the reins and get us out of these crises, whether it's the housing crisis, whether it's the man made crisis coming.

00:33:45
Speaker 4: Out of Washington, d C. I think I've got a shot.

00:33:48
Speaker 5: Javierbsarah, Thanks so much for joining us and look forward to seeing you in the weeks ahead as well.

00:33:53
Speaker 4: Thanks.

00:33:53
Speaker 2: So there you go. Javier Bisera, who is currently surging in.

00:33:58
Speaker 1: The polls, and don't forget CNN's Alex Michaelson joins us. Next Hour. Eight hundred two two two five two two two is a telephone number one eight hundred two two two five two two two. If you'd like to email the show, you can do so at Johnny don't like show at gmail dot com. That's Johnny don't like show at gmail dot com and Randy. As we sit here listening to the interview that Javier Bacharia gave to Alex Michaelson over at CNN, it kind of underscores the dilemma that the Democrats are in here in California, and that is that the party, the California Democratic Party, hates their two front runners, Tom Steyer and Katie Porter. They do not want either one of those two to get anywhere near the governorship. And it's not because of their politics. Both of them are liberal Democrats, as are many members of the state legislature and many voting members of the Democratic Party. The problem is that they don't color inside the lines. And one of the things that happens when your governor is not only do you get to sign or vtail legislation, but you get to appoint people to things like the UC Board of Regions or the cal State Trustees, or the Public Utilities Commission or parole boards, those sorts of things. And typically what happens is the party has an influence on who gets those positions and who gets those jobs. They want to make sure that their judges are taken care of, they want to make sure that their regulators are taken care of, and their spouses are taken care of for plum positions, those sorts of things, and if you have a governor that doesn't play ball with the party, the party loses out on the patronage aspects of running the executive branch of government. And I don't think the Democratic Party trust those two to take care of the people that they want taken care of. And because of that, they have to go out and find an alternative. Prior to the massive scandal that rocked the election, Eric Swalwell was going to be their alternative. Well, now that he's no longer an option, they need to go out and find one and All of the candidates pulling in the single digits are auditioning to be that person. So far, it looks like Javier Bacaria has the inside lane on getting the Democratic Party to support his campaign, But time will tell. Coming in third place isn't going to be good enough. His numbers are going to have to pop a lot more than they have been