#317- Inflation vs. Gunpowder: The Truth About Reloading Costs

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You know. Is reloading still a good idea?

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It does.

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Does reloading cost more than it ever did?

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And I think there'll be
some surprising answers there.

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Yeah. And and should you.

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So yeah.

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Let's do it.

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Good morning Roy.

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Good morning.

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And I am ready to go on desktop.

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You are you're you're fired up.

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Well, today
we're going to talk about something that

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it started as just a little conversation
between Roy and I,

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which is how a lot of our shows
end up starting.

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But Roy found a relic.

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The other day, and, there
I gave you the slow pitch softball.

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Roy, tell us about this relic
you found and what was unique about it.

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Well,

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actually,
I was doing a video about reloading,

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and there was a can of unique powder
behind me.

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Something
that I got in a garage sale or something.

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So it was probably from the 70s,
early 70s,

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and the price tag was still on it,
and it was like 795

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or 895 and,

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and a reader commented on and a reviewer
commented, he said, yeah, sure.

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Go ahead.

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Just, you know, make us all envious
because you have a pound unique for $8.

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Yeah. So yeah.

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So it caused me
to do a little bit of research.

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And so that's why I thought today would be
interesting is a

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you know, is reloading still a good idea?

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It does.

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Does reloading costs
more than it ever did.

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And I think there'll be some
surprising answers there.

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And and should you.

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So yeah. Let's do it.

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So so you did the,
the math on the internet and basically

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that pound of unique in $2,025 is about,

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you know, what
what a pound of unique runs.

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Well, you know,
I did the call it $8 and 1973.

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What is that? In 2025?

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Now $2,026.

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And it was like $70, you know, $665.

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And so and it made me think
because in retrospect,

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if I was going to spend $8 or something,
I mean,

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because it was rare that I had more than 3
or 4 or $5 in my pocket.

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I mean, that was a chunk of change,
you know?

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And I was thinking, well, okay.

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Then I made, dollar

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45 an hour at the time,

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you know, in a job which was minimum wage.

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And so if I wanted to buy that powder
that would have been what?

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I can't do the math.

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Five hours of work, right?

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I mean, that's almost a whole day of work
to buy a pound of gunpowder.

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And so then I translated
that in today's world.

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I mean, the minimum wage or average

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wage now is close to $20 and so.

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Well, then if you work for three hours
or for four hours,

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you could buy a pound, a unique powder.

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So it's the same. Yeah.

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And you know, that that really struck me
because I, I like everybody else.

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Well man, powder and bullets and dyes
and everything so much more expensive now.

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Well, I mean, relative to, like you said,

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how many hours you need to work to buy it.

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And of course, not everything is

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1 to 1 and all that, but overall, yeah.

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And I did a little bit of my checking
after you.

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You told me that.

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And it's, it pretty much works out
that stuff is relatively the same.

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So I think, to answer question
number one, is the cost about the same

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as it's always been?

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Yeah. In in today's wages.

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So then we got to get down
to that question.

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That really is kind of the heart

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of what this episode is,
which is, is reloading really worth it.

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And, you know, back in the day
is they say, well, yeah,

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I used to save a lot of money
by reloading.

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Well, did you actually and can you today
and it's not a black and white question.

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You know, what do you take into account?

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And as you, Tom McHale
and I discussed one time,

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do you have to take your own labor
into account?

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But the so the question is very
multifaceted and not black and white, but,

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I'll throw it to you.

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Roy is reloading. Really worth it?

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And let's just say in dollars and cents
right now. Yes.

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And and the reason I say that is
there's the the reloading market

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was, was sort of artificially kept
affordable for years.

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I mean, just a few years ago,
unique was still $20 a pound, you know,

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and it wasn't because of this collision
of culture with wars and

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and a lack of, manufacturing ability
and whatnot that drove the prices up.

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A lot of powders that we use are

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from overseas
Australia and, and, other countries.

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And so there's import taxes and, you know,

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transportation costs
more, shipping costs more.

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And so it's kind of caught up to probably
what the real value of it should be now.

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And so we're looking back at, well, hey,
I mean,

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five years ago
I bought a pound of unique powder for $20.

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Now it's $65,
you know, when you can find it.

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And I know the gut knee jerk reaction
is that's too much money.

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But that's like saying,
you know, if like right now, gasoline

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here in Missouri
is about two, ten a gallon.

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You know,

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I know it's it's like it's cheap.

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Yeah.

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Because, you know, whatever,
six months from now could be $4 a gallon,

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which may or may not be
maybe what it's supposed to cost.

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And so, yeah, we get fooled into that,
you know, we think, oh, well, that's not

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you know,

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if McDonald's is having a 99
cent hamburger sale, but next week

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they go back to the normal price.

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We think we're getting screwed, you know,
when in actuality that's an arm price.

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I looked at components.

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I still have some component boxes
from the 70s and early 80s.

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Like,
here is a box of bullets that I bought,

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and I paid X amount of dollars for.

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So I did the math

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and they were
actually more expensive. That

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other was

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my 500 count, 240 grain

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led, semi wide cutter cast bullets
that I used to buy.

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And a box was actually about 25%
more than I.

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What I would be able to buy that same box
today

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and and component price. I'm sorry.

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Like reloading equipment
prices are amazingly affordable.

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I mean, in the in the early 70s,
a rock chucker

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reloading press was $65.

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Well, if we do the math on that,

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I mean, that's like 7 or $800. Wow.

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So and I remember

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coming up with that money
to buy my first press

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in 1970, 71 or 2.

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Yeah.

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That was a huge expenditure for me.

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And my dad thought I was insane.

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Yeah.

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You know, I mean,
because I can understand that now, and,

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and and other

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the powder measures
were X amount of money, but the components

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now are so cheap,
you can buy a Li single stage

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entry level press for $50.

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I mean, think about that.

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You know, you can buy a progressive press
for basically $200.

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I mean, these are still $35 to maybe $50.

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Well,
I mean, they were 15 to $20.50 years ago.

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So, so things are cheaper
now than they used to be.

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They really are.

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And so people it's like what. Yeah.

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Oh I used to pay a penny apiece
for primers. Right.

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I used to pay $0.24 a gallon
for gasoline in 1968.

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About a penny

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apiece for primer in those days

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would maybe be $0.10 apiece today, right?

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Yeah.

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Well, guess what?

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When you do the math,
that's exactly how much they cost today,

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you know? So.

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So I think we older guys tend to do that.

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You know, we look and we say well,
well I was good.

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I paid this one.

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Yeah. You're right.

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And it has no bearing on today.

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You know I, I wrote up
something about a Python catalog

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or I showed one of the new pythons
in a video.

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They're 1500 bucks.

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And of course, the comments were like,
well, you know, I remember my first Python

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I bought in 1971, and it was $165

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while I did the math right.

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And anyone can Google it up.

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What is, $168 in 1973 or 71 worth today?

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Well guess what?

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It was almost exactly $1,500.

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Yeah.

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You know, so so they don't cost more.

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The the number is higher,

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but in

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reality it doesn't cost more,
if that makes sense.

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Yeah.

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So so let's zoom in on this this,

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the economy of reloading.

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And again, you know, it's not a it's
not a black and white answer

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to you. Right?

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When you're reloading a box of ammo,
you can find components

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to where here's factory
ammo, basically the same thing

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in, you know, the the ammo I reloaded
was cheaper because I cast my own bullets.

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I found cheaper powder,
but it's basically the same.

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So I don't think there's anybody
that would dispute that other

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than the commodity rounds have gotten
so inexpensive, it's hard

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to beat those using top quality, factory.

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But when you're when you're looking
at the economy of reloading,

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do you include, things
like the cost of your equipment?

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Because in a strict, dollars and cents
accounting,

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you know, the hundreds or thousands
you paid for all the gear, the,

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reloading dies and all that.

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What's your whole take when somebody says,

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can I save money by buying this, this,
this and reloading?

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Three 5758 grain.

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I think
if you're being a mercenary about it

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and if you're only getting into reloading
to save your money,

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then you need to amortize
the cost of the equipment.

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Right?

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I got into reloading because I thought
it was interesting and fun.

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And you?

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I happened to save money too.

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I mean, I agree with you. It's you.

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You almost can't reload a box of 59mm

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for $10, you know, so.

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So the commodity ammo like that,
I mean, I agree, you know,

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I just, I, I still can't throw empty nine
millimeter brass away.

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I donate it to people. I know. Right.

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But I think with rare exceptions

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and depending on your components,

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it's between a half and two thirds
as expensive as a factory load.

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Especially when you're talking
with the bigger bore stuff.

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45 Colt, 45 ACP,
you know, 357 Magnum, even 38 special.

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I load a lot of 32 Magnum wide cutters.

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I do it very affordably,
but as far as amortizing your equipment,

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I mean, you will earn that back relatively
fast, depending on how much you shoot.

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Think about this for a minute.

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I still use the loading press
that I bought in

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19, I don't know, 70 or 71.

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The Rcb's Rock chucker press.

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I still use that.

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So you know, has that pay for itself or.

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Yeah, like maybe 100 times over, you know.

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Yeah. Or more.

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So I think

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you shop smart.

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It's like I bought a 5 pound
container of powder not too long ago.

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It was a lot of money.

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It was like $350 or something like that.

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It was still cheaper
than buying it by the pound.

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But I haven't allowed
38 special in 32 Magnum with it.

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Well, it's it's
thousands of rounds are in that

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5 pound bag or box of powder and

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so while your initial

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expense sounds
holy cow, that's a lot of money.

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Actually it's not
you know, when you break it down,

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like I like to use berries, bullets
and berries.

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Bullets are extremely affordable.

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They're easy to load. They're clean.

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They're available, you know, so,
I mean, all this stuff, like anything,

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if you're going to buy, bananas,
you don't buy one, you know?

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I mean, you buy a bunch of bananas
and you'll get a better deal.

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And so reloading
components are the same way.

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Now, I will say this, though,
if you're brand new to reloading,

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you know, get yourself a little loader,
get yourself a, you know, a

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single stage press from Lee or one,
you know, one of the real affordable kits.

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You know,

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get a pound of some powder that's useful
for some of what you're loading.

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You know, get yourself 500 primers
or something and and buy some

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bullets and then try it out.

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And if you like

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it, well, now you know that
you can make an investment.

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And so, so both enjoy your hobby
and you will definitely save money.

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You will always save money.

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You know, if

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even just give it a little bit of thought,
it may not be a huge amount of money.

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It's 10 or 15 or 20% say,
but that's still saving money.

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And for me,
I know there are the mercenary people.

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It's like, well, I can't reloaded that
for the same for cheaper

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than what I can buy for it,
I got it, I understand that,

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but but just the other day
I reloaded about 200.

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Mild 30, 30 loads, you know,

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and I don't even know if I saved money
because I didn't

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pay any attention to how much
the components cost or anything.

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I just did it because it was fun
and it gave me

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something, a load that I wanted to use,
you know?

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And so I don't know,

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you know, you don't make money if you fly
radio controlled airplanes, you know.

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Yeah, it costs you to do that.

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Yeah.

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So virtually, virtually any hobby
and that that's kind of the perspective

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I wanted to, to bring out
because I represent probably

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the complete opposite use case of Roy
when it comes to reloading.

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I came to reloading only a few years ago,
and now I don't do a lot of it.

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All my gear is virtually brand new.

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I reload pretty much all rifle cartridges.

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I reload because a I'm chasing primarily,

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accuracy.

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And in the case of, you know,
the six Creedmoor or some of these others,

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it's hard to get even get the cartridges
from manufacturers.

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And if I've got to do a review,
I'm kind of up against it.

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I have to have the ammo.

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So the best way to do it is reload myself.

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So and then you get into the question of,
am I enjoying myself?

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Am I having fun?

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My time does have value,
but if that's what I'm looking at of

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you know, my time is worth
3.5 cents for every loaded round.

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I don't think that's
a good measure of a hobby.

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So to me, I probably save money strictly

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if you don't count the cost of
of amortizing all of my equipment. But

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when you look at availability, convenience
and the ability to chase accuracy,

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I think it comes out net positive for me.

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But in terms of dollars and cents,
I don't know that it would yet.

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I don't know that I broke even
on recovering the cost of all my gear.

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So that to me is,

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way down on the list of positives,

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for reloading.

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I do it because it
it helps me in my shooting.

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Not necessarily because it's putting
a little bit more money in my pocket.

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Yes. To all of that.

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You know, I think the thing to do is
if you're just getting into it

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to save money,
you may have to reevaluate it.

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You know, I agree.

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But for instance, I have this single shot,
30, 30, chip, a little Sharpe's,

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but when you shoot it
with a standard 3030 load, even though

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it's not a big, you know, serious
cartridge, it's still kicks.

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You're pretty good
because it's a lightweight little rifle.

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And so I load a 150 berries
around those bullet

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at about 1300 feet
per second, 13 to 1400 feet per second.

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So still got a little thump.

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You know, it
clangs the target really nicely.

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But it's extremely fun to shoot.

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And the cases lasts forever.

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Well, unless I was a freeloader,
I probably couldn't do that.

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I mean, there are some low recoil,
you know, loads out there,

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but they're expensive.

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I was at a gun show about two weeks ago.

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I was appalled at how much factory
ammunition costs.

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You know, you're. Still talking about it.

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I know,

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but I mean, yeah, there's commodity $10,
nine millimeter, that kind of stuff.

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But that's about the only commodity
there is out there.

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I mean, a a box of premium
hunting cartridges for the art.

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66.5 Creedmoor, you know, Remington,
federal, Winchester, you name it.

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I mean, they're like $60,

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you know,
I mean, can you get them a little cheaper?

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Maybe sometimes you're like a white label
something, but.

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And I got it.

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If you're a hunter
and you shoot once a year,

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that one bullet you shoot,
you're going to get a deer.

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So if you buy a box of 20, that's 20 deer,

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you know, okay, that's
probably a good investment.

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But if you want to go to the ranges
this gives me this weekend and sight

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and a rifle and you plan on shooting
20 or 30 or 40 rounds.

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So if you're paying $50 a box, you
just burned up 200 rounds of ammunition.

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Well,
that's way more than it cost for a basic

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reloading kit from Lee precision,
for instance, you know.

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Yeah.

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So that's all
I think you have to be positive.

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Don't be that negative Nelly guy or girl.

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Yeah.

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Actually, that I just accidentally said
something interesting.

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I spoke with a couple women lately
who have gotten into reloading

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and basically it was there were two,
two ladies, a very young gal, in her late

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20s, who just took up shooting,
and then an older lady who was in her 60s.

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She said, you know, I watched my husband
do this for the last 40 years,

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and I'm kind of tired and knitting.

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And so I thought, I'm going to I'm
going to try this.

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Well,
and it's like her new favorite thing,

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you know,
as she says, it's it's so interesting.

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She likes to tumble the brass
because it comes out shiny.

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You know,

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she wears rubber gloves, though, when
she handles the lead bullets, you know.

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Right.

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But she says so
because you go from nothing to something

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that's assembled, you know, you've
you've actually done actual work

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and made something, you know,
rather than just kind of nothing,

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you know,

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and then the other gal that it because
it was first she did it to save money.

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But then she as her shooting
sophistication level

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got higher, she realized the versatility
that reloading gave her.

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You know, that if.

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Yeah, if she wanted a lighter
weight bullet at a lighter velocity,

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she could do that, you know,
without having to shop every gun store

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and trying to find
just that load from somebody. So.

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Well,

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you know, I was sitting here,
I've got a kind of a standard,

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answer to the question, because,

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again, doing what
we've done, people ask it quite a bit.

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And, I'm going to ask you,
is that that new reload or new shooter?

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Maybe.

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And but I'd be interested
on hearing the Roy Huntington response.

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And that is okay.

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You've just asked me, you know,
is it worthwhile to reload?

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And I would say that overall it's a wash.

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Sometimes you save money, sometimes
you might actually spend a little bit

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more money, and then you throw
in all the support equipment

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and the time you've got invested.

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It's kind of a wash overall,
but if you're focused

399
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on saving pennies,
then you're focused on the wrong thing.

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When it comes to shooting.

401
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So your thoughts right?

402
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I agree completely.

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If somebody says, hey,

404
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I want to get into reloading,
the first thing I ask him is, why?

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And if they say, well, I want to save
money, I have that conversation with him.

406
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Well, you're
probably not going to save a lot of money,

407
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especially because you're going
to invest something upfront.

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But if they say, well, you know,

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I mean, I've read these articles
about guys

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and they reload because they can
tailor loads for different guns.

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And, you know, and I say, well, yes,
then you should.

412
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And here's why. Yeah.

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You know, the other thing I ask people
is, do you like to work with your hands?

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Do you do crafts?
Do you work in your shop?

415
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Do you work on your car?

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Do you do things like that?

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If they say yes, then I usually say, well,

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then I think you'll enjoy reloading
because it's it's very tactile.

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And as that lady said,
she likes the fact she goes

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from nothing to something that she's done
herself.

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And I think if you are a craftsman,

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a model builder of, you know, a machinist,

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these are all people who are freeloaders,
too, usually, by the way.

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And there's a reason for that.

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But if if what you like to do is like

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I read and I watch movies

427
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and I go for walks with the dog, you know,

428
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I don't know that you're going to like,
reloading.

429
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I would encourage you to, because it's fun

430
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and you may develop
some new skills that you'll enjoy.

431
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But but I hope that makes sense.

432
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I mean, I think the people get caught up
in the initial investment,

433
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and I think you need to not
I mean, because really think about it,

434
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people will spend $150
to go out to dinner, right?

435
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Well, 2 or 3 of those
get you into reloading.

436
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,560
Yeah.
And you never have to buy that again.

437
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Yep. So, yeah, I just don't get

438
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caught up in the nickel and dime of it
all, so I just recommended it.

439
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I find it fulfilling and fun.

440
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Totally agreed.

441
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And, you know, I got to address
this, though sometimes it's a matter

442
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of trying to justify those expenses
either to yourself or to a loved one.

443
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Well, I'm honey,
I'm saving all kinds of money here.

444
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We've all said it.

445
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Of course they've done it to us.

446
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Well, I had to, but
look at how much I saved on those shoes.

447
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Okay, I get it. We all play the game.

448
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So I guess my point is, yeah, you're
going to do that and maybe to yourself.

449
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But don't get don't
get wrapped around the axle as they say.

450
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Do it for all the right reasons
not to save those pennies and nickels.

451
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Yeah.

452
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And I'm a strong advocate of look,
look in your gun

453
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safe or your gun closet or your gun,
whatever.

454
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If you've got a dozen guns, are there.

455
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Look at that.

456
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Maybe two that you don't even really use.

457
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You know, you
maybe you haven't shot them in five years.

458
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Right? Well,

459
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get rid of them

460
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and put that money to work,
you know, and and use that money

461
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as an investment in a fun hobby,
you know? So.

462
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So yeah. There you go.

463
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So don't let the money scare you away.
Yeah.

464
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Take a bite at a time.

465
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You know, maybe buy
your first pound of powder

466
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and then, you know, your next paycheck.

467
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Then you buy some primers
and your next paycheck,

468
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you buy some bullets, and, you know,
that's all.

469
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It's like anything, if you if you enjoy
it, I promise you it'll be fun.

470
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:32,880
Exactly.

471
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,840
Well, one thing
we we haven't talked about, do you think

472
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we're going to get banned because we've
we've covered that in a couple of,

473
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episodes here of late.

474
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,000
One of the things that YouTube says

475
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you're not supposed to talk about
is manufacturing ammo.

476
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And I don't I don't understand it.

477
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,560
And I think what they intend is
like how to make like counter

478
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,080
anti-personnel rounds or something.

479
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:02,520
But we're treading on thin ice here,
so I, I, I hope this doesn't get banned

480
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,600
out of the gate because we're still on
double secret probation, so.

481
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,600
Well, you know, dumpster reloading stuff
and not got any.

482
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:14,040
Well I have I yeah, I have you know
and that's where they talk about that

483
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,120
I've done I hear people being banned
because they're showing how to reload a 38

484
00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:19,080
special or something.

485
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,720
We've certainly done videos like that.

486
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,680
And then I, I as a matter of fact,
I think we had the got hit one time

487
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,160
because Hodgdon Powder was, was a sponsor.

488
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:29,760
Yeah.

489
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,760
And it was
I don't even remember what the topic was.

490
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:37,360
It was I think it was something unrelated,
but yeah, they we got Bing for that

491
00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:38,920
because we were encouraging

492
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,960
buying or selling ammunition or something,
you know, and it's like, what.

493
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,160
You know,

494
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,400
so I don't I mean,
all we did was talk about a hobby today.

495
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,800
We didn't tell anybody
how to reload anything.

496
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,280
Exactly.

497
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,120
So we didn't even really encourage it.

498
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:55,520
We just said, no, investigate and do it.

499
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,240
Do what you feel.

500
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,080
Yep. There. What you feel. So.

501
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,560
All right, here
I say something though. Okay.

502
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,480
So you're probably just going to say it
is, is that

503
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,480
if you have more specific questions, I'm
not sure you will be able to cover them.

504
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,840
But if you do have more
specific questions,

505
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,600
make sure you post them in the comments
and I promise I'll get back to you.

506
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,720
Weak minds think alike,
because that's exactly where I was going

507
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,240
with that reach out
editor at guns podcast.us.

508
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,440
Or of course,
you can leave a comment on YouTube.

509
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,320
And as we said last week,

510
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,960
be a decent person about it
if you were going to get fired up.

511
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,520
But most of them are.

512
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,400
So we we do follow those.

513
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,840
And Roy makes it a darn near
full time job to follow those comments.

514
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,360
So we certainly appreciate that.

515
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:42,480
So of course, do not forget
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516
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519
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520
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:04,240
And on behalf of our sponsor, our sponsor,
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521
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,320
on behalf of our co-host, Roy Huntington.

522
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,960
As always,
I'd like to remind you, reload some,

523
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,360
and then now get
out there and get shooting.