Heavyweight Check In 2

Heavyweight

Jonathan, Stevie, and Kalila check in, to talk about what’s been going on in their lives, and in your lives, too.

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2020-03-27 23 min Transcript

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Pushkin. Hello, Khalila, Hi, Jonathan, let me try Stevie Hello, Hello, 0:00:40.129 --> 0:00:42.290 Hi are you guys? Abr? 0:00:42.930 --> 0:00:43.370 Yeah? 0:00:43.650 --> 0:00:44.730 What does AVR mean? 0:00:45.610 --> 0:00:48.930 Alex Bloomberg rules always be recording? 0:00:49.250 --> 0:00:51.089 That's right. How are you guys? 0:00:52.010 --> 0:00:52.450 Okay? 0:00:53.489 --> 0:00:57.730 My update I guess is that since we last did 0:00:57.850 --> 0:01:01.850 this is my roommate has left to go be with 0:01:01.890 --> 0:01:04.490 her family. So now I'm in the apartment by myself. 0:01:05.250 --> 0:01:09.090 It's like a weird moment where everything that brought people 0:01:09.209 --> 0:01:11.850 to New York is like sort of gone or on hold, 0:01:12.530 --> 0:01:15.010 and like you're left with only the terrible part, the 0:01:15.050 --> 0:01:16.770 worst part of living in New York, which is like 0:01:16.850 --> 0:01:19.210 paying a lot to be in a very small room. 0:01:19.490 --> 0:01:23.490 Yeah, Stevie, Yeah, I'll ask you the question that is 0:01:23.530 --> 0:01:26.850 on the minds of all American minds of the world. Yeah, 0:01:27.290 --> 0:01:30.490 these troubling times. How was your blind date? 0:01:31.690 --> 0:01:32.009 Oh? 0:01:32.410 --> 0:01:33.690 Yeah, my blind date? 0:01:35.170 --> 0:01:36.210 It was fun. 0:01:36.570 --> 0:01:37.250 It was fun. 0:01:38.170 --> 0:01:39.010 What did you guys do? 0:01:39.490 --> 0:01:42.970 We we we just we actually just like hung out 0:01:43.010 --> 0:01:46.330 and talked for like three hours. And the thing that 0:01:46.450 --> 0:01:50.570 was so nice about it, honestly, yeah, because it was 0:01:50.610 --> 0:01:53.370 like in the context of like a first date and 0:01:53.410 --> 0:01:55.730 like completely getting to know a person and they're all 0:01:55.730 --> 0:01:59.050 the questions. It was like three hours where we like 0:01:59.210 --> 0:02:05.610 essentially didn't talk about the virus. Like I think sometimes 0:02:05.650 --> 0:02:09.610 it's nice to acknowledge that things aren't and word and 0:02:09.730 --> 0:02:12.690 to like hold that in your mind. But there was 0:02:12.730 --> 0:02:18.930 also something really nice about like this semblance of like normalcy, you. 0:02:18.930 --> 0:02:21.610 Know, of which there's you know, so we're getting in, 0:02:21.730 --> 0:02:25.210 we're getting all these emails, and there's been this one guy, 0:02:25.250 --> 0:02:27.610 I don't know if you noticed, who's been setting us 0:02:27.650 --> 0:02:32.170 like a poem a day, This guy named Kieran Lennon, 0:02:32.850 --> 0:02:34.570 and he had this line at the end of one 0:02:34.610 --> 0:02:37.290 of his poems that I really liked, which was that 0:02:37.450 --> 0:02:39.210 kind of speaks to what you're talking about in a 0:02:39.210 --> 0:02:42.130 way where he says that, you know, today was more 0:02:42.170 --> 0:02:45.530 normal than yesterday, not because it is, but just because 0:02:45.610 --> 0:02:47.130 it was as strange as yesterday. 0:02:48.770 --> 0:02:49.290 Yeah. 0:02:49.490 --> 0:02:59.410 Yeah, I've you know, been spending a lot of time 0:02:59.530 --> 0:03:02.970 with Aggie and which is great. And so I took 0:03:03.010 --> 0:03:06.610 his tricycle out of the garage, and you know, we 0:03:06.690 --> 0:03:09.049 had the whole alley to ourselves. So I thought maybe 0:03:09.290 --> 0:03:12.170 I could teach him how to use a tricycle. He's 0:03:12.250 --> 0:03:18.370 more into making the sounds like motorcycle sounds. He was 0:03:18.410 --> 0:03:22.250 trying to teach me how to to do proper motorcycle sounds, 0:03:22.250 --> 0:03:24.210 which is something that I've never been very good at. 0:03:28.690 --> 0:03:36.210 He's like talking, WHI shound, your mouth opening like this. 0:03:42.050 --> 0:03:42.490 Is that good? 0:03:42.650 --> 0:03:44.010 You're close to do it? 0:03:44.210 --> 0:03:49.690 Like the way that he understands all of like everything 0:03:49.730 --> 0:03:52.490 that's going on is we've been talking about it in 0:03:52.570 --> 0:03:55.570 terms of germs, because he understands that, you know, like 0:03:55.610 --> 0:03:57.130 about how you have to wash your hands before you 0:03:57.170 --> 0:04:00.610 eat because the germs, right and you know, but occasionally 0:04:00.650 --> 0:04:02.530 the last well, you know, why can't he see his 0:04:02.570 --> 0:04:04.890 grandparents And we say, you know, we have to be 0:04:04.890 --> 0:04:09.410 careful about the germs right now, and he says, you know, well, 0:04:09.490 --> 0:04:13.330 we'll see them when the germs go away. And there's 0:04:13.370 --> 0:04:19.170 something just so simple, and I'm confused about it, as 0:04:19.370 --> 0:04:22.130 as always with a kid, you're always like trying to 0:04:22.170 --> 0:04:25.249 meet them on their level, and in this case, it 0:04:25.369 --> 0:04:28.289 just forces a kind of optimism, like there isn't a 0:04:28.369 --> 0:04:31.849 version of the world where things don't work out. 0:04:39.130 --> 0:04:43.489 Everything makes me emotional lately, like it's like my emotions 0:04:43.489 --> 0:04:45.250 are coming out and all kinds of weird ways. 0:04:45.650 --> 0:04:50.289 Yeah, yesterday, I like I put there's this piece of 0:04:50.289 --> 0:04:52.889 classical music that you guys would know because it's very famous. 0:04:52.929 --> 0:04:56.009 It's this like prelude to this back cello suite that 0:04:56.089 --> 0:04:57.849 I just think is like so beautiful. It's like two 0:04:57.890 --> 0:04:59.929 and a half minutes, and it was sort of like 0:04:59.969 --> 0:05:01.809 stuck in my head on my run, so I like 0:05:01.849 --> 0:05:04.409 put it on to listen to it, and it just 0:05:04.409 --> 0:05:06.289 like made me cry, like just like ball. 0:05:13.849 --> 0:05:15.849 So as as you guys know, so after our last 0:05:15.890 --> 0:05:19.809 check in episode where we asked for people to write 0:05:19.969 --> 0:05:22.689 in and just let us know how they're doing, we 0:05:22.810 --> 0:05:28.409 got so many just really nice, generous emails from all 0:05:28.450 --> 0:05:31.409 over the world. And so you guys started calling a 0:05:31.409 --> 0:05:35.689 few people who you felt especially curious about are connected to, 0:05:36.570 --> 0:05:39.969 and I called a couple of old friends, and among 0:05:40.010 --> 0:05:42.289 them doctor Jackie Cohen. 0:05:43.369 --> 0:05:45.929 Jackie an old standby. 0:05:46.650 --> 0:05:48.409 She's not just like an intro to a show, you 0:05:48.450 --> 0:05:51.809 know what I mean. She's a real person. She actually 0:05:51.849 --> 0:05:56.089 she called me, oh, which was which was kind of nice. Yeah, 0:05:56.330 --> 0:05:57.969 I mean I had left her a message, but she 0:05:58.089 --> 0:06:01.810 returned it, which you know, and she was even kind 0:06:01.810 --> 0:06:02.330 of nice to me. 0:06:02.810 --> 0:06:05.450 Hi, Junny, Hi, how's it going. 0:06:05.849 --> 0:06:11.330 She's been working at a coronavirus clinic in Montreal, and 0:06:11.409 --> 0:06:12.810 so we talked a little bit about that. 0:06:13.369 --> 0:06:16.289 I take these short histories and then I swaped this 0:06:16.409 --> 0:06:19.250 road and then I swap their noses and that's it, 0:06:19.929 --> 0:06:21.610 and then I tell them we'll call them in two days. 0:06:22.250 --> 0:06:23.730 So there's testing in Montreal. 0:06:24.450 --> 0:06:27.169 There's lots of testing, really started up already a couple 0:06:27.130 --> 0:06:27.650 of weeks ago. 0:06:28.169 --> 0:06:30.290 But what does it feel like, Yeah, it feel it 0:06:30.330 --> 0:06:33.609 feels like it feels like it feels like I'm well, lately, 0:06:33.690 --> 0:06:37.689 we've just ramped up the numbers of swabs that we're doing, 0:06:37.770 --> 0:06:40.450 and so it feels like I'm on an assembly line 0:06:40.489 --> 0:06:43.409 working at McDonald's. I mean, it's just like outcome of 0:06:43.450 --> 0:06:45.370 these trays and you just grab the tray and then 0:06:45.409 --> 0:06:47.330 you go to the next person, and so you just 0:06:47.409 --> 0:06:49.490 have to sort of move it along. They're really trying 0:06:49.529 --> 0:06:51.809 to pick up the speed and you have to gown 0:06:51.890 --> 0:06:53.289 up and down between each patients. 0:06:53.289 --> 0:06:56.169 So the gowning, the gowning process is what takes long. 0:06:56.210 --> 0:06:57.369 The rest is super easy. 0:06:58.289 --> 0:07:02.690 And do people come to you sometimes nervous, worried, anxious? 0:07:02.849 --> 0:07:08.010 Oh my god, they're always really anxious. Yeah, either anxious 0:07:08.049 --> 0:07:09.330 and be when I call them up to tell them 0:07:09.330 --> 0:07:11.410 the results are negative, because I've been calling everybody back 0:07:11.410 --> 0:07:13.370 to tell the results of good negative. It's just if 0:07:13.369 --> 0:07:17.410 they've just like won the lottery. They are so happy, 0:07:17.489 --> 0:07:20.569 like they're they're like this palpable release through the phone. 0:07:21.010 --> 0:07:22.809 Does it feel good to make those phone calls? 0:07:26.369 --> 0:07:28.489 Well, part of me, I mean, part of me feels like, 0:07:29.090 --> 0:07:30.810 you know, happy to tell them the good news. On 0:07:30.850 --> 0:07:32.850 the other hand, I'm thinking, I mean, it shouldn't be 0:07:32.929 --> 0:07:36.130 the worst news to get that you have coronavirus, because 0:07:36.610 --> 0:07:37.930 you know, eventually a lot of us are going to 0:07:37.970 --> 0:07:40.050 get it, and it's just feeling like it's so stigmatized 0:07:40.090 --> 0:07:42.170 at this point. So I'm hoping people are to be 0:07:42.210 --> 0:07:44.250 psychologically be ready for a positive. 0:07:45.290 --> 0:07:49.129 And she even thinks that, like she'll probably end up 0:07:49.170 --> 0:07:50.090 getting it eventually. 0:07:50.650 --> 0:07:52.730 Well, at some point, at some point, I. 0:07:52.690 --> 0:07:54.410 Probably will because of the work you're doing. 0:07:55.330 --> 0:07:57.889 Well, yeah, I mean we're we're healthcare workers, we're frontline. 0:07:58.010 --> 0:07:59.010 I mean, at some. 0:07:59.010 --> 0:08:02.570 Point, and then she had to go make dinner. 0:08:03.450 --> 0:08:04.930 I've got to get dinner on I've got to get 0:08:04.929 --> 0:08:05.730 dinner on the table. 0:08:05.970 --> 0:08:10.210 Okay, I've got a life. Before she could blow me 0:08:10.250 --> 0:08:14.890 off the phone, I really wanted to tell her that 0:08:15.210 --> 0:08:21.290 I was just really impressed with her. You know, we 0:08:21.450 --> 0:08:23.850 joke around a lot, but I really do think that 0:08:23.970 --> 0:08:27.210 Jackie is one of the most selfless people I know. 0:08:28.570 --> 0:08:30.689 But you know, of course I said none of that 0:08:30.810 --> 0:08:34.330 to her. Instead, I just kind of said something, you know, 0:08:34.410 --> 0:08:40.170 typically sarcastic, you know, over the top, just to kind 0:08:40.170 --> 0:08:42.890 of grosser out. I would like to be the first 0:08:42.970 --> 0:08:44.650 to thank you on behalf of Canada. 0:08:44.690 --> 0:08:45.570 Stop talking about that. 0:08:45.610 --> 0:08:47.290 Okay, you're just embarrassed. 0:08:49.050 --> 0:08:51.210 You're just now, are you? 0:08:58.730 --> 0:08:58.810 So? 0:08:58.930 --> 0:09:01.650 I also talked to someone I have a long standing 0:09:01.730 --> 0:09:04.050 relationship with. I talked to my brother. 0:09:06.210 --> 0:09:09.650 Hello, Kristens, it's Kaylee Holt speaking. 0:09:10.570 --> 0:09:15.450 Hey, what's that? Oh pretty good? It's driving home in 0:09:15.490 --> 0:09:15.890 the rain. 0:09:16.050 --> 0:09:20.450 You know he's still working. He is in Iowa. He 0:09:20.490 --> 0:09:22.850 works at a car dealer. Should he sells cars? Are 0:09:22.890 --> 0:09:23.770 you guys still open? 0:09:24.210 --> 0:09:28.570 We are still open, which I feel I feel two 0:09:28.610 --> 0:09:31.370 ways about. They sent out a memo the other day 0:09:31.490 --> 0:09:34.650 being like, you know, your safety is our number one concern. 0:09:35.490 --> 0:09:37.370 I want to work. It's it's gonna be tough to 0:09:37.410 --> 0:09:40.290 make ends meet if if I'm not working. But don't 0:09:40.370 --> 0:09:42.570 don't tell me your my safety is your number one concern, 0:09:42.650 --> 0:09:45.290 because if it was your number one concern, you'd close 0:09:45.370 --> 0:09:48.930 us down, right, because all non essential stuff is supposed 0:09:48.970 --> 0:09:53.050 to be closed down, but our service center auto repair 0:09:53.090 --> 0:09:56.970 shops are considered essential. So we're using that loophole to 0:09:57.010 --> 0:09:59.610 stay open, and we'll probably stay open until the governor 0:09:59.690 --> 0:10:04.210 herself comes down and personally closes us down. And people. 0:10:04.290 --> 0:10:07.050 The crazy thing is people are still out shopping for cars. 0:10:07.090 --> 0:10:09.490 I was gonna say, I can't imagine anyone as buying 0:10:09.530 --> 0:10:10.450 a car right now. 0:10:10.930 --> 0:10:13.210 Lots of people are lots of people. Are most of the 0:10:13.210 --> 0:10:15.810 people I talk to are still find to shake hands? 0:10:15.850 --> 0:10:18.090 And are you shaking hands those people? 0:10:18.250 --> 0:10:18.610 I am? 0:10:18.730 --> 0:10:21.770 Yeah, they're like, yeah, media is just blowing this way 0:10:21.810 --> 0:10:23.570 out of a portion, and you know, I'm in sales. 0:10:23.610 --> 0:10:25.250 I can't tell him. They're fucking more on it. You're 0:10:25.330 --> 0:10:27.250 dangering themselves and everyone around them. 0:10:27.330 --> 0:10:27.970 Yeah. 0:10:28.130 --> 0:10:30.250 The past week is like, Okay, today's the day where 0:10:30.250 --> 0:10:33.770 we're just not going to see anybody, and people just 0:10:33.850 --> 0:10:34.690 keep showing up. 0:10:37.650 --> 0:10:39.690 So I just got really kind of scared for him, 0:10:39.890 --> 0:10:42.370 thinking from shaking all those people's hands. 0:10:42.610 --> 0:10:44.730 Does he have any pure l Yeah, he says he. 0:10:44.730 --> 0:10:46.770 Has hand sanitizer at his desk and I'm like, are 0:10:46.770 --> 0:10:49.290 you doing it? Every time he shakes someone's hand, and 0:10:49.330 --> 0:10:50.610 he's like, yeah, I'm trying to. 0:10:55.730 --> 0:10:58.610 So Stevie, who did you talk to? Yeah? 0:10:58.650 --> 0:11:00.770 So I talked with a woman named Lexi. 0:11:01.650 --> 0:11:05.170 Just to give you a quick head up, I'm just 0:11:05.250 --> 0:11:08.490 having some like pretty heavy contractions that I really wanted 0:11:08.490 --> 0:11:11.090 to talk to you. So if I stopped talking, or 0:11:11.090 --> 0:11:13.610 if my voice sounds weird, or if like I have 0:11:13.730 --> 0:11:16.210 to mute you for a second, it's because I'm screaming. 0:11:16.290 --> 0:11:17.650 Wait wait, Lexy. 0:11:17.730 --> 0:11:23.010 Lexi, she is like forty weeks pregnant right now. Her 0:11:23.090 --> 0:11:25.970 due date is March twenty seventh, which is four days 0:11:25.970 --> 0:11:29.890 from now. That's very yeah, very very pregnant. Like about 0:11:29.930 --> 0:11:31.490 ten minutes into the call. 0:11:31.610 --> 0:11:38.930 I work for this music management company. Sorry, I'm letting 0:11:39.010 --> 0:11:39.570 a contraction. 0:11:40.570 --> 0:11:42.650 Wow. Did did you feel like you were gonna have 0:11:42.650 --> 0:11:45.370 to like guide her through the delivery of her of 0:11:45.370 --> 0:11:46.570 her child over the phone? 0:11:46.970 --> 0:11:50.010 I honestly like listening back to the tape is like painful. 0:11:50.090 --> 0:11:53.170 I was like, you got this, Lexy, Like we can 0:11:53.210 --> 0:11:53.490 do this. 0:11:53.810 --> 0:11:54.530 What do you need? 0:11:54.770 --> 0:11:55.290 Oh my god? 0:11:55.330 --> 0:11:55.970 Are okay? 0:11:56.530 --> 0:11:56.650 Uh? 0:11:56.890 --> 0:11:57.410 You got this? 0:11:57.570 --> 0:11:58.410 So it's fine. 0:11:59.610 --> 0:12:01.530 I'm gonna hang on one second, are you are. 0:12:01.450 --> 0:12:02.250 You sure. 0:12:03.770 --> 0:12:06.010 The terror in my voice, I'm sure was doing a 0:12:06.050 --> 0:12:07.689 lot more harm than good. 0:12:10.050 --> 0:12:10.610 But yeah. 0:12:10.690 --> 0:12:17.130 So the interesting thing about Lexi is she had never 0:12:17.210 --> 0:12:20.490 really like thought she wanted to be a mom. Yeah, 0:12:20.570 --> 0:12:23.250 but it is with this partner, and it was important 0:12:23.290 --> 0:12:26.930 to him and to them and their relationship, and so 0:12:27.770 --> 0:12:30.610 it was sort of like a decision she made knowing that, 0:12:30.690 --> 0:12:34.330 but maybe not a decision she would have made otherwise. 0:12:34.930 --> 0:12:37.370 It's this weird moment where like, already she has so 0:12:37.450 --> 0:12:40.650 much fear around it and complicated feelings, and then like 0:12:40.730 --> 0:12:42.770 on top of it, she's like about to give birth 0:12:42.810 --> 0:12:47.530 in the middle of a pandemic, and it's scary, you know, 0:12:47.650 --> 0:12:53.930 like she's scared. But on the other hand, there's sort 0:12:53.970 --> 0:12:59.450 of been an evolution in how she's feeling about it. 0:12:59.450 --> 0:13:01.610 It's a real weird thing for me to say, because 0:13:02.810 --> 0:13:06.450 you know, a month ago, I would have been terrified 0:13:06.530 --> 0:13:09.330 because I don't know anything about babies and and I 0:13:09.330 --> 0:13:12.570 don't I'm afraid to be alone with this baby. But 0:13:12.690 --> 0:13:17.450 now it's almost like, here's an external thing that isn't 0:13:17.490 --> 0:13:19.890 the state of the world that you have to focus 0:13:19.970 --> 0:13:25.209 all of your time and energy on. It's almost comforting 0:13:25.490 --> 0:13:28.410 and maybe this is a good thing. 0:13:31.010 --> 0:13:34.370 Then I spoke with someone who's already a parent, a 0:13:34.410 --> 0:13:38.970 woman named Rachel, and Rachel and her husband Drew are 0:13:39.210 --> 0:13:43.690 having a really different experience of this period of social 0:13:43.730 --> 0:13:47.570 distancing than I think a lot of us are. So 0:13:47.690 --> 0:13:51.170 Rachel is the mother of three out in Colorado and 0:13:51.330 --> 0:13:54.290 her youngest son, Johnny. He's three and a half years old. 0:13:54.690 --> 0:13:57.450 Johnny is like a major daddy's boy right now, and 0:13:57.570 --> 0:14:00.930 since Drew is working from home, he's very excited about that. 0:14:01.370 --> 0:14:06.690 So Johnny has this very rare condition called ACTA two, 0:14:08.050 --> 0:14:13.010 and it means that he is incredibly immuno suppressed, like 0:14:13.050 --> 0:14:15.170 he's just always getting sick, and they have to be 0:14:15.210 --> 0:14:20.850 really really careful. So like for Rachel, social distancing isn't new. 0:14:21.650 --> 0:14:23.610 Like the first thing you see when you get to 0:14:23.650 --> 0:14:26.370 their front door is this sign that says, like, please 0:14:26.410 --> 0:14:28.770 do not enter if you've been sick, or like around 0:14:28.770 --> 0:14:32.370 someone who is sick. You know, like Johnny can't go 0:14:32.410 --> 0:14:35.690 to preschool because it's just like too much exposure to germs, 0:14:35.770 --> 0:14:38.890 and they often like can't don't end up going to 0:14:39.010 --> 0:14:41.410 like parties they get invited to because it's like just 0:14:41.450 --> 0:14:46.290 too risky, like that's just like the reality of how 0:14:46.290 --> 0:14:49.530 they live. And so like right now with COVID, like 0:14:49.930 --> 0:14:52.170 Rachel says, people have been reaching out and are being 0:14:52.170 --> 0:14:56.450 really supportive, but it's like for Rachel, it's almost like 0:14:56.570 --> 0:14:58.250 frustrating in a way. 0:14:58.570 --> 0:15:00.050 You know, people are like, hey, can I go to 0:15:00.090 --> 0:15:02.810 the store for you? I know it's probably hard right now, 0:15:03.530 --> 0:15:06.490 but I'm like going to the store is always hard 0:15:06.490 --> 0:15:09.810 for me, like all the time, because I'm always weighing, 0:15:09.890 --> 0:15:12.730 like can I go right now? Okay, if I go 0:15:13.050 --> 0:15:17.210 at like seven thirty in the morning, then it's probably 0:15:17.250 --> 0:15:19.410 going to be quieter and I won't have people, like 0:15:19.730 --> 0:15:22.330 there won't be as many people, and the carts will 0:15:22.370 --> 0:15:26.330 be clean and available, and I can have time to 0:15:26.370 --> 0:15:28.850 clean the card even more, and people won't like look 0:15:28.890 --> 0:15:33.050 at me funny and be like super judgmental that I'm crazy. 0:15:33.410 --> 0:15:35.530 And that's the thing that Rachel is sort of like 0:15:35.770 --> 0:15:40.890 hoping that like after people have gone through what you know, 0:15:41.010 --> 0:15:46.330 like what we're going through right now, that there will 0:15:46.410 --> 0:15:51.450 just be like a greater empathy and understanding of not. 0:15:51.330 --> 0:15:54.770 Just our family, but like so many special needs families 0:15:55.530 --> 0:15:59.930 because whenever everybody else turns back to normal, life, Like 0:15:59.970 --> 0:16:01.050 we'll still be doing this. 0:16:15.730 --> 0:16:18.050 The last Callie made, I phone to this woman, Emma, 0:16:18.130 --> 0:16:21.930 who works at a zoo in Arizona, and the zoo 0:16:22.050 --> 0:16:25.570 is obviously now shut down to the public, as most 0:16:25.610 --> 0:16:28.650 things are, but she's continuing to work and like take 0:16:28.690 --> 0:16:29.690 care of the animals. 0:16:30.130 --> 0:16:33.690 The animals have been just behaving differently. 0:16:34.690 --> 0:16:35.530 I can tell. 0:16:35.410 --> 0:16:37.210 They're like, what is this? 0:16:37.330 --> 0:16:39.050 Why? So what's going on? 0:16:39.610 --> 0:16:42.090 You know, Like for the for people right now, it's 0:16:42.090 --> 0:16:46.170 a time of like increased anxiety, but for the animals, 0:16:46.210 --> 0:16:48.290 like it seems like kind of like they're more relaxed. 0:16:48.330 --> 0:16:50.530 And she's seeing the animals like play a lot more. 0:16:50.650 --> 0:16:51.970 Oh, because there's nobody there. 0:16:52.210 --> 0:16:56.690 Like, for example, we have a group of painted dogs. 0:16:56.810 --> 0:16:59.130 There are three of them. What is a painted dog? 0:16:59.570 --> 0:17:05.090 A painted dog is a African carnivore. They're also called 0:17:05.129 --> 0:17:09.050 African wild dogs. And so they've just been like romping around. 0:17:08.770 --> 0:17:12.090 In the during the day and playing. 0:17:13.449 --> 0:17:15.850 Normally, they they would kind of hang back and like 0:17:16.290 --> 0:17:18.689 because they can be a little bit nervous around people. 0:17:19.050 --> 0:17:21.169 Man, I got to look up painted dogs after this. 0:17:21.209 --> 0:17:23.609 I feel like, yeah, often like as an adult that 0:17:23.689 --> 0:17:26.409 you like learn about a new animal. So I'm very 0:17:26.449 --> 0:17:29.850 excited painted dogs. Have you guys heard of them? 0:17:30.330 --> 0:17:31.330 No, I haven't. 0:17:31.649 --> 0:17:33.130 I'm going to send you guys a picture. 0:17:36.330 --> 0:17:39.929 Oh, they really look like they're painted. They look like 0:17:39.970 --> 0:17:43.210 they're like painted by like an abstract expressionist. 0:17:43.330 --> 0:17:46.170 It's like a hyena and a panda bear had a baby. 0:17:46.290 --> 0:17:48.889 It's like a dog that's wearing like one of those 0:17:49.290 --> 0:17:50.249 Mickey Mouse hats. 0:17:50.530 --> 0:17:54.249 Yes, I was Mickey Mouse ears. I was just about 0:17:54.250 --> 0:17:54.770 to say. 0:17:55.010 --> 0:17:55.970 Yeah. 0:17:57.449 --> 0:18:00.690 You know, this thing also came up while we were talking, 0:18:01.810 --> 0:18:04.009 Like she was talking about sort of what it's like 0:18:04.050 --> 0:18:05.489 to be a zoo keeper and you have to do 0:18:05.570 --> 0:18:08.810 things to like manage the animal's anxiety, and you know, 0:18:08.889 --> 0:18:11.769 they're in an enclosed space and sometimes they need like 0:18:11.970 --> 0:18:15.729 certain like activities set up for them are like different. 0:18:15.770 --> 0:18:18.049 She had like more zookeeper terms for it, but like 0:18:18.169 --> 0:18:22.370 toys introduced to their environment to like keep them healthy 0:18:22.369 --> 0:18:26.129 and stimulated. And it's kind of like now during the pandemic, 0:18:26.330 --> 0:18:29.369 like that's the situation that we're all in as humans. 0:18:29.889 --> 0:18:33.649 We're kind of in captivity right now. We really don't 0:18:33.649 --> 0:18:38.969 have a lot of choice and control, and so if 0:18:39.409 --> 0:18:41.810 you kind of get lost in that, it can be 0:18:41.929 --> 0:18:43.650 really scary. 0:18:44.409 --> 0:18:47.009 It's like we're the zoo animals kind of where we're 0:18:47.010 --> 0:18:50.290 in some code space and we have to figure out 0:18:50.290 --> 0:18:52.210 the things that are going to make it manageable for us. 0:19:13.530 --> 0:19:18.050 We've been getting a lot of really lovely, thoughtful emails 0:19:18.050 --> 0:19:20.810 from you guys, so please continue to send them to us. 0:19:20.970 --> 0:19:26.170 We really enjoy reading them. Also, you may be thinking 0:19:26.609 --> 0:19:29.970 lately about reaching out to someone who you haven't spoken 0:19:30.010 --> 0:19:32.689 to in a while. And if that's the case, and 0:19:32.810 --> 0:19:36.209 you'd like some interlocuting or just you know, someone to 0:19:36.290 --> 0:19:39.330 talk talk about it with, and you know, maybe help 0:19:39.369 --> 0:19:42.330 you make that call, Please let us know. You can 0:19:42.369 --> 0:19:46.170 email us, or you can record a voice memo and 0:19:46.449 --> 0:19:55.729 send it to Heavyweight at Gimbletmedia dot com. 0:19:55.889 --> 0:20:02.570 Hello, Hi, Paul hid Uh, you know hanging in there. 0:20:03.209 --> 0:20:07.330 I know, it's it's it's I don't know, it's been 0:20:07.330 --> 0:20:10.170 hard to like to do anything actually, even with all 0:20:10.169 --> 0:20:12.489 this time. I don't know, Like a lot of people 0:20:12.490 --> 0:20:15.209 are on Facebook and they're all like being all productive 0:20:15.209 --> 0:20:17.369 and I'm seeing like what they're working on and stuff, 0:20:17.369 --> 0:20:19.489 and I'm like, man, I just feel like the exact 0:20:19.490 --> 0:20:22.850 opposite of that. Yeah, I just hadn't a whole lot. 0:20:22.889 --> 0:20:25.570 But I'm like all my work got canceled, so I 0:20:25.570 --> 0:20:28.770 don't I don't know what's gonna happen after this. Yeah, 0:20:28.770 --> 0:20:29.530 it's pretty bad. 0:20:30.050 --> 0:20:30.330 I think. 0:20:30.369 --> 0:20:32.770 I think that's sort of I'm like kind of not practicing. 0:20:32.970 --> 0:20:35.009 Sorry to make you practice when you're when you're not. 0:20:35.649 --> 0:20:39.450 It's good, it's it's it's it's really, it's great. Actually 0:20:39.810 --> 0:20:45.050 it feels good. Okay, so are you ready to should? 0:20:45.050 --> 0:20:49.129 I I'm ready, Okay, let me. I'm just gonna speak 0:20:49.129 --> 0:20:52.330 a phone role. I'm just gonna hate record and then 0:20:52.369 --> 0:20:58.250 I'll just play it through. Okay, and here we. 0:20:58.209 --> 0:22:56.129 Go, stop star stuff to boot. If if I can give, 0:22:56.330 --> 0:23:04.369 give give it. If not Bell, give them, and. 0:23:06.209 --> 0:23:09.249 If one give me the 0:23:11.490 --> 0:23:28.730 Bali became

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