San Leandro PD on body cam shown to be dumping homeless person in Oakland

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Speaker 1: And we continue at two to five in the afternoon on John Phillips Show, Mister Randy Wings in Culver City.

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Speaker 2: John, first they were living in the storm drains. Now Matthew Seedorf has found the homeless living in the La River.

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Speaker 1: Where are they not?

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Speaker 2: Good? Question?

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is the telephone number? What eight hundred two two two five two two two. Well, if you've listened to this show long enough, you know that the homeless are all over the state of California. You know that what our elected elite leaders are telling us is not true. They're telling us that people are homeless because of the high cost of housing. And if you just open up your eyes and open up your ears, you can tell when you see them in the encampments, on the streets, the parks, the libraries, the beaches, that they are in fact severely mentally ill and or addicted to drugs. Gavin Newsom and our establishment in Sacramento, they refuse to see it that way, and therefore our programs are geared towards affordable housing and not treating the underlying cause of why these people are living on the streets or in the storm drains. Or the river, god knows where else. Because we won't build insane asylums to put them in, they continue to live on the streets, which means if you're a city that doesn't want it in your community, you can't fix the problem. You just have to keep them moving, and you have to keep them moving until they find a city that's willing to put up with them, and then they all end up there. In northern California, that city is Oakland. In southern California, that city is Los Angeles. However, we now know, thanks to police body cam footage, that that is in fact what has happened, and not just a theory.

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Speaker 2: This is a wild story from Dan Nois following the bodycam of police from San Leandro as they pick up a homeless person that was loitering and drop him off seven miles north in Oakland.

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Speaker 1: That's what I do too.

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Speaker 2: For more, here's ABC seven in the Bay and Dan Nois.

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Speaker 3: You're being.

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Speaker 4: Answer.

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Speaker 5: San Leandro police handcuffed this homeless man at a strip mall, got into a violent struggle, and then dumped him, in their words, seven miles away in Oakland. Officers did that even though they concluded the man had committed no crime. An internal affairs sergeantist filed a nine page complaint with the city on this and other issues.

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Speaker 6: ABC seven Eye Witness News iteam report, Daniel, what's the problem.

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Speaker 1: If I lived in San Leandro? That's exactly what I want my tax dollars going to.

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Speaker 2: You think that it is an appropriate use of police to kick them out of the cities that don't want them and give put them in the cities that do want them. We saw this, by the way, notably when someone in Burbank got picked up by the Burbank PD and was dropped off in North Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And you know what, it goes the other way too, because how often do you have some kid who has all kinds of problems with the law, problems with gang affiliation and the like, And what did the judges say? The judges go, you know what, I think you would be better off not being around your bad friends. So why don't you go live in Victorville? Why don't you go live in the Analope Valley? And then they turned Victorville into a hellhole by sending all the badasses from La there.

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Speaker 6: ABC seven Eye Witness News item Reporter Dan noise has a story that you will see only on seven High Dan Ama and Jr. I obtained that body camera video the arresting officer left at rolling the entire time, so we can follow it along as she decides to dumple a homeless man in Oakland. At San Leandre Police internal Affairs Sergeant Mike Olivera was going through old body camera video when he came upon this one.

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Speaker 2: That's got to be an interesting job.

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Speaker 1: Oh, everyone in the department must hate you.

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Speaker 2: When he came that is part of this story.

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Speaker 6: When he came upon this violent incident from December twenty twenty four, any use of force, it's supposed to be thoroughly documented by the resting officer. This one was not. Mike Rains is all, okay.

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Speaker 1: You're dealing with crazy people with fried brains. Every interaction that you have with them is going to be a bad one. If you filled out the forms every time you had a bad interaction with a homeless person, you'd have carpal tunnel.

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Speaker 2: That's the policy. Though, if any kind of force is used, you got to fill out the form.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's stupid because when you allow crazy people who are schizophrenic and on fetanyl on the streets. Isn't the working assumption that all of it's going to be violent?

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Speaker 6: Mike Range is Oliveer's attorney.

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Speaker 7: When you apply force to people, you handcuff them, and that happens, you have to make sure you're making a record of it. And the best record you can make is you take them into custody, You tell them they're under arrest, you write a report, you let the DA sort it out.

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Speaker 8: See.

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Speaker 2: The thing with this story is this guy was never arrested or charged with anything. They picked the market, then they dropped him off.

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Speaker 1: The thing is is there's been a complete breakdown because the das don't charge people with crimes because we know that if you just put them in there, they're going to be released immediately. That's not going to solve the problem. If you're going to solve the problem of that individual in your community making life worse for everyone, you have to remove them from that community. So just send them someplace where they're happy to have them.

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Speaker 6: It all started with San Leandro said safety ambassadors.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, they have those there too.

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Speaker 1: The most worthless people unplanet are of course they'd make an appearance in this story.

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Speaker 6: It all started with Santa Leandro's safety ambassadors there on the left, tried to make thirty three year olds to Kille Coleman leave a shopping area. A clerk at the natural food store pushed an alarm button because you thought Coleman and the ambassadors were about to fight.

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Speaker 1: What do you know? The ambassadors weren't able to make the situation better.

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Speaker 2: To Sante, they did not de escalate the situation.

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Speaker 1: Nope, and then the cops had to come in. What do you know?

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Speaker 6: To Santa Leandrew police officers arrived.

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Speaker 9: I'm asking you, who are you?

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Speaker 10: It's an awful order.

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Speaker 11: I'm asking I'm a person that'd be around is do you have here?

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Speaker 7: And sometimes?

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Speaker 3: Are you just going to be difficult?

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Speaker 12: Or can we just get through this easily?

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Speaker 10: It wasn't a problem, okay, cool?

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Speaker 6: Suzanne Mann and another officer tried to I.

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Speaker 2: Was just making people feel incredibly uncomfortable in this shopping center that I was loitering at.

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Speaker 1: That's what they do. That's what they do. And when they're on drugs, who knows they're talking to themselves, they're threatening you, they're menacing whatever.

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Speaker 6: Suzanne Mann and another officer try to handcuff Coleman, so they can search him, but they can't until a third officer arrives.

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Speaker 8: Just like your back.

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Speaker 6: None of the officers told Coleman he had committed a crime. He did have a receiving stolen property conviction in.

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Speaker 2: His past, well of who hasn't.

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Speaker 6: And he balked when they tried to put him in the police car.

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Speaker 7: On the ground, No, sir, no, what are you doing?

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Speaker 8: What are you?

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Speaker 4: Hunts? Police?

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Speaker 2: Really feels like an episode of Cops Now.

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Speaker 1: Oh I missed that show so much.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing?

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Speaker 10: What are you?

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Speaker 13: Hunts?

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Speaker 6: A police supervisor, Lieutenant Antoinette Turner, arrived in time to see the interaction turn violent. Stop kick in, I stopped playing.

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Speaker 2: Officer Navarro apparently pulled one of his corn rows.

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Speaker 1: Uh oh.

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Speaker 6: Officer Navarro ripped out Coleman's braids, trying to pull him into the car.

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Speaker 4: Well you do after my hair?

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Speaker 14: Right?

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Speaker 1: What does he have a photo shoot coming up?

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Speaker 6: Coleman finally complied. After Navarro pulled out his taser. You could see the green dot on Coleman's chest. The body can continued to record while Officer Man tried to figure out what to do next. She considers what san Leandro police call a green sheet, a fifty one fifty or psychiatric hold. She even starts filling out the paperwork before realizing she doesn't have a case.

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Speaker 8: Well shot, actually he's they're saying he didn't do anything.

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Speaker 6: Man decides she doesn't have evidence that Coleman was a danger to himself or others.

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Speaker 2: So so what do you do?

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Speaker 1: Then? Well, see, this is the problem when someone is clearly crazy and they're on the streets and they're creating problems. And clearly he was created problems for those ambassadors and for the store to call nine to one one. These are the interactions that they just have on a daily basis. This guy should be in a metal institution.

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Speaker 2: What if the ambassadors started it.

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Speaker 1: Well, a lot of them are ex con so who knows. But if you have a crazy, homeless person that is causing problems at a shopping center, those things happen every day. How often do you see that when you go shopping in California? I mean I can't count the number of times I've seen incidents similar to this. And what happens is people just pretend like they're not there and hope they don't get hit.

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Speaker 6: So she comes up with another plan.

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Speaker 13: We're gonna go way north and then jump them, and then we're gonna.

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Speaker 6: Go back to them.

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Speaker 2: Well, they don't call it for the city a dumpy for nothing, very on brand.

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Speaker 6: Wherever you think there's a propriate I'll follow Mantel's officer Navarro and her supervisors, Lieutenant Turner, that she wants to dump Coleman and Oakland, but not near any bart station.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you this is the unofficial policy of every single city in Alameda County.

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Speaker 1: And if I were on that city council, I would tell the police to keep going.

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Speaker 2: It's the same thing in southern California. This is what Culver City does. This is what else the Gundo does. This is what Burbank does. It might not be on the books, but we all know the.

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Speaker 1: Alternative is just to let the homeless do what they do, which is harass people when they're pumping gas, harass people when they're leaving shopping centers, harass people when they're walking down the streets, occasionally go off and start attacking people. And then we're just supposed to pretend like it didn't happen because oh, they're sick.

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Speaker 9: Because then he just.

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Speaker 13: Come back or.

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Speaker 10: No, he's just going to come back and be a problem.

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Speaker 2: They're going to make sure if they dump him in Oakland, it's not anywhere near a bart station.

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Speaker 1: No, of course not, Lieutenant.

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Speaker 2: I will get him out of here, and there's no bar station.

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Speaker 8: Is take a while you're back from the side.

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Speaker 6: Officer Man gave Shaquille Coleman a choice Santa Rita County jail or ride north.

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Speaker 1: To Oakland, which one Saturday. I don't know which one I'd dig.

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Speaker 13: I want to ride up north and then you could walk off and then go figure your life out, all right, Maud, North we go.

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Speaker 6: They take surface streets to Phive eighty north, past the San Leandro city limit, past the Oakland Zoo, past Mills College. They take them Acarthur Boulevard exit to a gas station just off the highway, seven miles from where they picked up Shaquille Coleman his hair.

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Speaker 2: I wonder what you're looking for, and you're looking for a spot to dump a homeless guy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but let's just hope they didn't leave broadcrumbs with his hair.

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Speaker 6: Hold the officer Navarro retrieves Coleman's braids. Officer Man removes her pink handcuffs.

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Speaker 2: All right, sir, can you grab your stuff and take off Man?

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Speaker 6: As Shakille Coleman gathers his belongings, Her partner motions for Man to get back in the police car.

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Speaker 3: I find this incident really disturbing, to the point where I almost didn't want to weigh in on it because it's so disturbing.

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Speaker 1: Former they should have dropped him off at this idiot's house.

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Speaker 6: Former SFPD commander and police practice this expert Rich Korea is critical of Officer Man's decisions, saying they could have violated Coleman's civil rights.

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Speaker 1: But he's most rich North Korea, I see.

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Speaker 6: But he's mostly critical of Lieutenant Turner, the supervisor who told Man, I'll let you do whatever wrong. I'll let you do whatever you want. She said, you.

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Speaker 3: Can't in the twenty first century go to a scene as a boss and not do anything. If there's some.

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Speaker 2: Well, the boss wanted him out of there too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone in that town.

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Speaker 3: Support some action. You need to take some advice, some guidance. You're not there as a passive observer. You're there to add value.

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Speaker 6: Antwina Turner left the San Leandro Police Department. This past December. I reached her by phone at bart Police where she is now Deputy Chief in charge of the Progressive Policing and Community Engagement Bureau.

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Speaker 1: What why is that even a thing?

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Speaker 6: Deputy Chief in charge of the Progressive Policing and Community Engagement Bureau.

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Speaker 2: If you're wondering why Bart is broke.

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Speaker 1: There's so many problems going on right now in that area.

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Speaker 6: Turner would not answer any of my questions about her role in the incident through a spokesperson, Chief Angela Averrett declined to be interviewed, so I met her one day after work.

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Speaker 2: This is the ultimate Dan Nois. If you don't respond to dan Neys's questions, he comes to your house.

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Speaker 1: We saw that with Brian Ossevedo and Gavin.

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Speaker 6: There's your officer's dumped man up in North Oakland. Is that the way you do with this here?

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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it is. Barbara Lee wants us to bring them in.

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Speaker 1: Not only would I not deny that, I would paint that on the building the city hall.

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Speaker 6: Chief, you have to answer to the public to realize that right. To follow up, I sent a detailed list of questions to the city and received a response that said. After Sergeant Olivera's complaint last month, Chief Averett launched an independent, third party investigation that found certain personnel violated department policies and that they faced corrective action. That's news to Sergeant Olivera. It's been one year since he first complained about this incident. His lawyer says, Olivera is facing repercussions.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they don't like the tattles.

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Speaker 1: Good. You know what, nobody likes a snitch. I hope they ruined this guy's life.

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Speaker 2: He was just doing his job.

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Speaker 1: Nah nah, Now what he wanted is for that town to be taken over by the nuts and the bums. If he got his way, that's what would happened.

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Speaker 2: I think the Eternal Affairs officer just wanted to make sure they filed a report when they shoved this guy into Oakland.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh.

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Speaker 7: He feels like the result has been that he's been shunned, he's been discriminated against, he's been retaliated against the treatment he's received within this administration.

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Speaker 6: I reached out to all the officers in this report and left messages, but did not hear back. Tomorrow. I report on another controversy for Chief Everett. He was investigated for a hit and run while off duty and driving an unmarked police department jeep.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, San Leandro peed. He's got a lot of issues.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot going on in that town.

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Speaker 6: No charges were filed in that matter, but you'll hear from the driver in the other car.

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Speaker 2: That's tomorrow. So there you go. The latest Dan noise piece, the body cam footage of San Leandro police officers picking up somebody in San Leandro, not arresting him, but dumping him in the city of Dumpy. And this guy at Internal Affairs is lucky I wasn't one of his co workers, because I would have made his life real comfortable. Eight hundred two two two five two two two is telephone number one. Eight hundred two to two two five two to two two. Let's go to Walter in Santa Clarita. Walter, Hello, Hello John.

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Speaker 13: Listening to your to your The topic there reminded me of a story I heard years ago.

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Speaker 4: In Rio de Janeiro.

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Speaker 13: The merchants were having trouble with the young men glue sniffers harassing the tourists, so they created a private security Wink Wink company, and all of a sudden, these blue Huffers were disappearing into the jungle. I'm not promoting that, but that's this one solution that they came up with.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's a tale as old as time. In the old days, the Mob used to take care of that for different businesses. They called them protection rackets. So if you had street tufts that were robbing your store or causing problems for your customers, the mob would come in and take care of it, and they would take care of it the way that the mob handles problems. The problem is now you owed the mob a monthly installment that only goes one way and that's up. Otherwise you become the problem.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I know, it's not a perfect solution, definitely.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you know what I regard as modern day protection rackets. No what hoa's.

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Speaker 13: Oh yeah, yeah, there we go. That's a that's a can of worms.

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Speaker 1: I think I'd rather deal with the mob. Thank you for the call, sir. Let's go to Dan and Chino Hills.

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Speaker 8: Dan, Hello, what's happening to John? You know what, why don't you have people call in and see what they what their recommendations are to do with these crazy people? As a police officer. We do that all the time. We used to dump people off in other cities if there's nothing we can really do with them.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, if you know who else gets in trouble for this. Hospitals, the VA gets in trouble for this because someone who's in that hospital is homeless. They treated them, they need that bed for someone who's sick, and the homeless person goes, well, I don't have a home, and so they dump them off in downtown LA on skid Row. Well they got in trouble for doing that. So what are you supposed to do? Turn the hospital into a homeless shelter so you have no beds to treat sick people.

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Speaker 8: Well that's what we did when I was doing police work. We always took them to skid Row. And now what the camera is everywhere, you can't do it. So I was just wondering what people think we can do with them there? There don't fit the fifty one fifty criteria, they ever really committed a crime. What do we do with them? Just throw them in the ocean.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know how much pushback you'd get for me. How about just taking them over to that internal Affairs guy's house. Leave them right on the front porch. Eight hundred two two two five two two two is the telephone number one. Eight hundred two two two five two two two. If you'd like to email the show, you can do so at Johnny don't Like show at gmail dot com. That's Johnny Don't Like Show at gmail dot com. And if you'd like to listen to a past episode the program, Randy, that's easy to do.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's time to open up. The California crime Blodder is cashis dummy.

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Speaker 4: We couldn't make this stuff up if we tried.

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Speaker 13: I said, hell no, ready, boy, let me get up one out of here.

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Speaker 4: It's the California Crime Blodder.

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Speaker 1: And Randy. This piece of Bay Area news went national.

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Speaker 2: A bunch of jackass teens on e bikes tried to take over the Bay Bridge, but SFPD and the CHP said hell now.

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Speaker 1: They finally put their foot down for more. Here is Karan.

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Speaker 14: Four eighty five people were detained a lot of people after trying to take over and stop traffic on the Bay Bridge. They were all on bikes this weekend. The CHP and the SFPD worked together to stop the crowd in its tracks and the whole thing was caught on camera.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, our cron first w Rothman joins us now live in studio with the latest on this.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Quite a situation.

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Speaker 10: It's a lot and it's scary for people on the road and not I mean law enforcement. They were standing firm tonight saying that this is.

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Speaker 4: Not child's play.

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Speaker 10: These are dangerous tactics that could lead to mass injuries, but.

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Speaker 4: Not this time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but kids are dumb.

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Speaker 1: And you put them on an e bike and they become a demon.

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Speaker 10: On Saturday, eighty five bicyclists were called on SFPD drone cameras swerving it.

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Speaker 2: See those drones are great. We should really invest in them in every city in the state.

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Speaker 10: Eighty five bicyclists were caught on SFPD drone cameras swerving in and out of traffic in downtown San Francisco, catching the attention of concerned drivers and California Highway patrol.

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Speaker 11: This isn't a group of cyclists that are just out for a Saturday ride. These are individuals who are intentionally wreaking havoc in our communities.

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Speaker 2: They even have a phrase for it. The kids call it a ride out.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you know what would happen if a motorist didn't see one of them and ran them over and killed them, it would be that person's fault.

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Speaker 2: Well, for that situation to happen, you would have to imagine that someone was going faster than five miles an hour on the Bay Bridge.

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Speaker 11: That's true, riding at other vehicles, riding at pedestrians, and then when they get up on the freeway, they have no concerns with the fact that they are shutting down a major transportation route in the Bay Area.

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Speaker 2: Have some respect that bridge is named after Willie Brown.

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Speaker 1: People have places to go.

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Speaker 10: Sergeant Andrew Barclay with a CHP's Golden Gate Division says they had to act fast, deploying units to cut them off before they entered the bridge.

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Speaker 11: If they did take a ramp, then our biggest goal would be to stop them before they got to the top of that ramp. And that comes to the planning of having CGP units stationed to kind of leapfrog for lack of a better term, to say, Okay, they've passed this ramp let's stage for the next ramp. They passed this ramp let's stage for the next one.

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Speaker 2: So it is boy this they really knew what they were doing here, and there's so much work they have to do to make sure that they intercept these jackasses on the right ramp.

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Speaker 1: Could you imagine if you were late for something because all this nonsense was going on.

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Speaker 2: It is I guarantee there are people listening right now that have been late for something because jackasses on e bike shut down traffic.

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Speaker 1: Imagine if you missed a flight.

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Speaker 8: It is.

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Speaker 11: It is an incredibly fluid process, a lot of moving parts, a lot of communication. But when that all goes right, you see the result.

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Speaker 10: In the past, law enforcement has been unprepared for unruly behavior.

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Speaker 4: For this weekend.

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Speaker 10: Sargent Barclay credits learning from previous incidents, nearby patrol, and real time monitoring for their success.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, the game changer here is that real time information center which operates like the bat cave, and the drones which they can they can launch from all different kinds of corners of the city, way faster than any police vehicle can get around San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: I wonder how often this sort of thing happens where we don't even hear about it because the cops just don't respond.

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Speaker 10: And if you're thinking of taking a joy ride yourself, do you.

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Speaker 11: Want to go to court? Do you want to be held accountable? And do you want to lease your bicycle?

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Speaker 2: So that's the new thing. We're taking away the bike.

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Speaker 1: Good you know, don't risk it's not worth it.

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Speaker 2: Well, c HP said.

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Speaker 10: Eighty five people weren't attained and cited for riding a bike on the freeway. They were all released but the bikes happened taken away in the studio, Stephanie Rothman, back to you.

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Speaker 2: There you go, the SFPD and the CHP shut down, the attempted takeover of the Bay.

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Speaker 1: Bridge and Randy, it's time to reopen the California crime Blodder.

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Speaker 4: It's happened yet again.

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Speaker 2: This whoa, whoa, what's not weird?

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Speaker 15: Dum dum dunk dun dun dun dunk.

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Speaker 4: Reached the Califonia crime Blodder with.

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Speaker 1: Jong and on this one, I think I can speak on behalf of the late great Tony gwyn and say if he was aware of what happened, he'd be shaking his head.

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Speaker 2: Is that a baseball reference? Yes, Oh, we're doing that story. I don't know. I only did sports here for six years. There was a fight at the Padres game. Here's cvs. Eight all right.

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Speaker 12: There's always a lot of excitement at the beginning of a baseball season, and sometimes that can go too far.

00:26:06
Speaker 6: Take a look at this.

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Speaker 2: What if Tony Gwynn was an uber driver, then we'd be doing cut twenty three.

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Speaker 12: Take a look at this video shared with Newsa's showing a brawl in the stands last Friday night, that ultimately led to arrest.

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Speaker 16: And tonight I saw.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if people are on edge because San Diego jacked up the parking at Petco so much could be.

00:26:28
Speaker 16: And tonight I spoke with the Padres, San Diego police and a witness about what went down at the ballgame.

00:26:40
Speaker 2: That sounds like fun, and you pay a fortune to go there, as the Pasres took them to, well, I guess the thought process is, while I paid twenty dollars for this beer, I better do something stupid with it in my system.

00:26:55
Speaker 16: As the Pasres took them the Detroit Tigers Friday night, up in the stands at Petco Park, punches were thrown. It appears to have started with two people before others joined in.

00:27:12
Speaker 2: And this is that mob mentality with the kids on the e bikes, drunk people at a baseball game. One of them gets angry, they all get angry.

00:27:20
Speaker 1: You know, you can take the Raiders out of California, but you can't take the Raider fans with them.

00:27:26
Speaker 16: It appears to have started with two people before others joined in, and at one point they slammed into other fans.

00:27:39
Speaker 9: Then it turned in from two people to a group, and then within you know, thirty seconds, All of a sudden, they come flying down the stairs right into the woman that was on my right. I didn't know her, but.

00:27:51
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone was actually watching the game at this point.

00:27:54
Speaker 1: I'd be watching the fight too. That's more interesting. Right into the woman that was on my you're operating.

00:28:00
Speaker 2: The jumbo tron, do you zoom in or do you gotta turn away?

00:28:04
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just turn it into a hockey game and show the fight.

00:28:07
Speaker 9: Right into the woman that was on my right. I didn't know her, but I got to know her because she can't find into me. Unfortunately.

00:28:14
Speaker 1: That's the Padre safe in case you're wondering.

00:28:17
Speaker 16: That's the Padres fan who witnessed, recorded and shared this video with me. He requested to remain anonymous.

00:28:24
Speaker 2: What you're afraid of retaliation from other Padres fans? Probably maybe it's like with the police, you can't snitch on your fellow friars.

00:28:37
Speaker 16: What led up to the fight, that's still unclear.

00:28:39
Speaker 1: Alcohol, lots and lots of alcohol.

00:28:46
Speaker 9: The only thing we heard that really drew our attention was we heard someone yell super loud, like do something about it then.

00:28:53
Speaker 2: But you know how there's never a fight on aa night at the baseball game. They may be grouchy, but they're not throwing fists.

00:29:05
Speaker 4: The only thing we.

00:29:06
Speaker 9: Heard that really drew our attention was we heard someone yell super loud like do something about it. Then, but like really loud, like do something. And then that's when all of a sudden, we turn around and it's just, you know, everybody like they just they went at it.

00:29:21
Speaker 2: He tells me, Lawn, this society is done right.

00:29:25
Speaker 1: Well, I guess a lot of people did something.

00:29:28
Speaker 6: He tells me.

00:29:28
Speaker 16: Law enforcements soon arrived to break up the brawl. I spoke with the San Diego Police Department Monday afternoon and they told me two people were arrested, cited, released, and ultimately expelled from the game.

00:29:44
Speaker 2: No more pet co for you.

00:29:48
Speaker 1: You know what I think causes a lot of these fights at these sporting events. What's that nobody sits in the seats that they're assigned to, and then if you show up to your seats, someone's in there. You go, hey, you're in my seat. About half the time they go, we'll go sit somewhere else. I've seen that happen, not at Angel Stadium. Well, there's a lot when I go at that stadium, but I go with friends to other parks, that is a very common confrontation.

00:30:20
Speaker 2: At the Big A. You might have a whole road to yourself. Hey, it's like flying on a holiday.

00:30:28
Speaker 16: I reached out to the Padres, who tell me they have a zero tolerance policy for behavior that disrupts the game day experience. They went on to say that anyone who violates their policy will be subject to immediate removal from the ballpark, lost of future ticket privileges, and face potential criminal prosecution.

00:30:50
Speaker 2: Only two got that punishment. The rest of them, well, they didn't start it, but they finished it.

00:30:56
Speaker 1: Well, this is why if I'm not going to see a game in Orange County, I insist on getting there super early. Because if you get there super early, you're in your assigned seats and no one's going to squat in your seats, so you don't have to have a confrontation.

00:31:11
Speaker 9: The mood in our section was definitely like everyone wanted to get out of there, right it was.

00:31:15
Speaker 15: It was the Padres were losing, They already wanted out. Keep in mind, these are adults, so the whole crowd, which.

00:31:26
Speaker 2: Dodger fans are a different breed though. The Dodgers could be winning and they want to get out of there. I don't care how exciting this game is. That traffic's going to be hell.

00:31:37
Speaker 9: The whole crowd was just you know, watch that whole fight, that whole brawl go down, so it kind of did take away the fun of the you know, the end of the game.

00:31:48
Speaker 16: Meanwhile, STPG added that during the game, San Diego police officers work with Padre's guest safety representatives and security to monitor the crowd and address issues like this as they arrive.

00:32:00
Speaker 4: Rise.

00:32:01
Speaker 2: Honestly, there you go, that's what happened, the big old brawl at the Padres game.

00:32:07
Speaker 1: Is this something new for San Diego because I've always known the Dodger stadium is aggressive. When the Raiders were here, whether it be in Los Angeles or in Oakland, their fans were aggressive, But I've never thought of the Padre fans as being that aggressive.

00:32:24
Speaker 2: San Diego is supposed to be like the ultimate expression of California, laid back. But maybe that's why this made news because this happens all the time at Dodger Stadium. But because it happens so often, it ain't newsworthy. Unless someone gets a concussion in the parking lot.

00:32:38
Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is telephone number one. Eight hundred two two two five two two two. We have some breaking news. President Trump has just weighed in on the insurance companies who were servicing the homeowners whose homes burned down in the fires in Pacific Palisades and Altad, and he's telling the insurance companies that they're now on notice for not fulfilling their obligations in those contracts.

00:33:07
Speaker 2: I'm very kind of sketch the post reads. I have just met with various political representatives of the tragedy that took place in California, considering the burning of thousands of once beautiful homes. It was brought to my attention that the insurance companies, in particular State Farm have been absolutely horrible to people that have been paying them large premiums for years, only to find that when tragedy struck, these horrendous companies were not not there to help. I have asked the administrator of the us EPA, Lee Zelden, to give me a list of the companies who acted swiftly, courageously, and bravely in order to make their clients happy, and even more importantly, in order to fulfill their legal obligations. Likewise, I have asked to see those companies that were particularly bad. A wait till you find out what the California Fair Plan is, Buddy. The names of some surprise me, but in a world which we live in, nothing really surprises me. State Farm and others should get their act together and treat people fairly. The government is looking into this matter as we speak.

00:34:17
Speaker 1: Good for him, because whenever we talk to a fire victim, we hear the same story over and over and over again. The insurance companies are no help and they will not give them what is owed to them. And the two worst ones that we keep hearing about from just about everyone is the Fair Plan and State Farm.

00:34:36
Speaker 2: Do you remember when Karen Bass held that really pathetic press conference in front of the first house that was rebuilding in the Palisades and they just had a couple of studs up and she's like, look, progress is being made. We're so much faster than Paradise. And Channel four asks the homeowner, Hey, how's this going. He says, well, this is about as far as I can go because State Farm won't pay out my claim. I wonder if the federal government starts turning over stones in the Pacific Palisades in Altadena and they're looking into the transgressions of State Farm, how long it takes before them to be hot on Ricardo Laura.

00:35:16
Speaker 1: I'm very kind of sketch.

00:35:17
Speaker 2: Well, based on the investigations that we already know about Ricardo Laura, not only did he give State Farm an emergency rate increase when they haven't paid out those claims, but we now know that State Farm was aware of all the deals he was going to make when it comes to his insurance strategy, which in effect incentivized companies like State Farm to drop as many people as possible to create the conditions where they could get anything that they wanted.

00:35:45
Speaker 1: And if those companies are not fulfilling their contractual obligations, and the California Department of Insurance exists to make sure that they do that, and he's not doing that, and then they're paying his way to all of these junkets all over the globe so he can live like Elime Klampett. That's not going to look good.

00:36:05
Speaker 2: If anyone can get a hold of lee Zelden, they should have him meet Stephanie Sierra at ABC seven in the Bay, so they can learn about all of Ricardo Laura's taxpayer funded travel that he was doing instead of making sure that we had an insurance market in this state.

00:36:24
Speaker 1: As you mentioned, that's already been broadcast on local television stations in California and certainly on this radio program, and I assume on others. At this point, one would assume that his transgressions are on the radar of the federal government and the FBI.

00:36:43
Speaker 2: If he's not under any kind of investigation, I'd be shocked. Well, we know that California won't do anything to him because Rob Bonta is about as crooked as they come, and he would be the one in charge of investigating Ricardo Laura. So either the Feds do something about it or nothing happens. All right, Randy, what do you say we take a call. It's going to John in the East Bay. John.

00:37:11
Speaker 13: Hello, Well, you know you've really given me a target rich environment here. I was calling originally on the San Leandro police caper where they shipped the guy up to Oakland, and apparently the lieutenant was on the scene, took no action, and she got promoted and there's now the deputy chief Deputy chief at the bart Police Department. The fights at the Oakland Raider Games. I used to have some really choice seats behind the first base dugout, and I used to give him frequently to my son and his friends. Well, they preferred sitting in the bleachers. And he told me, Dad, we just go out there to watch the fights. They're fighting all night long the capitals. Hey, I'm paying thousands for these seats. No waste money. We'll sit in the bleachers, just watch, just to watch the fights. The San Leandro capern that when Jerry Brown was the mayor of Oakland, he got upset about all the prostitutes on MacArthur Boulevard in Oakland. And I had one of my buddies call me up about three weeks later and he told me, who's twenty years after I left. He says, they drive down MacArthur Boulevard, you won't find a prostitute in sight. And I said, well, I'm not looking for any, but I'm curious where the hell they go. And he said, basically, they harassed the John's to the point that they the prostitutes asked him what was going on, and they ran up by him and told, you know, San Francisco will not prosecute prostitution, and they all went to San France. They all went to San Francisco.

00:38:47
Speaker 1: It's a give and a take, that's for sure. Thank you for the call, Sar