AO Recap Day 12: The Silhouette Test

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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, and welcome again into the Renee Stubs Tennis podcast. Well it really should be the let's call it the well we nicknamed ourselves hashtag Petubsi, Petco stubbsy.

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Speaker 2: I think that's still pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, welcome to the Petubsi podcast. I think we should start calling it. But what a day yesterday, of course Women's semi Finals Day was played in the evening and Petco what do you think about the two back to back matches in the evening before we get into the actual matches.

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Speaker 3: Well, I know what you think, and I'm sure we will get into it into a five minute trand from Renee Stubbs. But I agree with you. We talked about it on the way back in the car. I agree with you one hundred percent. I'm all for a night session because the atmosphere was absolutely electric. It was fascinating to see, especially the GoF Sabalnka but also the Jong and Yes Gem Scum match. The atmosphere was great. It was amazing to play underneath the lights. It was raining in Melbourne, so the roof was closed. It really had an indoor feel. However, start at six, yeah, start or six thirty or six thirty because again we were home at one thirty am, and that's us. That's us, So we don't sleep before two and think about the players, you know, because they are riled up even more than and we already have adrenaline flowing through our bloods. We both called the second match as well, so you get excited for these players. You see these great narratives and stories play out, and you can't go to sleep. Imagine what the players feel like who have played on the big stage, who have felt the atmosphere. They won't be able to sleep until three four am. We talk about this all the time and it's really rough to come back from that and play the biggest match of possibly your life. So yeah, just start a bit earlier, just a bit. It's one hour and.

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Speaker 1: At least at least you know, I understand there's a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: That go into it.

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Speaker 1: Clearly, we both work in television and you know, we in production meetings, so we hear all the time. And I'm sure and I know from working here for Channel seven, the Channel seven network, when they covered it, they want they want to start after the news, like the news is very important for people to watch on TV, and then they want to put the tennis on. So then that's why they started seven. Well, then start at seven, don't start at seven thirty eight. You know, there was you know some there was some announcements made before the match, which was fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Ivon Colie.

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Speaker 1: They announced that the Indigenous Day at the Eustrain Open is now going to be called the Ivon gool On Colie Day, which is all great. So there's all some really wonderful things. And you know, we had the Women's Inspirational Series with el McPherson and Yvonne over there yesterday and that was great and I really appreciate it. Tennis Australia do that, you know, have all these wonderful women like come together and have this great day. But like I think, starting at seven essentially seven forty.

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Speaker 2: So therefore, by the time.

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Speaker 1: The first couple of games has done, it's already eight o'clock. So I mean, if Coco and Sablenka had gone three sets, I mean the second match when I got on the court till like eleven o'clock or something, I just think it's too late for the people to be sitting there as well, like to go to go and sit and watch a second match.

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Speaker 2: I mean I saw people.

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Speaker 1: Yawning at like twelve ten, which is when they finished or something.

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Speaker 2: It's like I was yawning. I mean, it's just I think it's just too late.

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Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned, I know the rest of the world don't really care because the rest of the world like, oh great, it's on.

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Speaker 2: Our times now.

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Speaker 3: That also plays into the global sport, and our stars are global stars. They come from all over the world. As we see now.

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Speaker 1: Is China ahead, China is ahead of Australia, a little bit behind, a.

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Speaker 3: Little bit behind, and the yeah, it would have been picked our And I've heard, for example, from the day before when Coco gov got scheduled at one one pm. Normally they started at twelve and then they played this long match when Coco played costume. So I heard ESPN actually requested the one pm start because there would have been primetime in the US and they had Coco and Ta Fritz playing back to.

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Speaker 2: Back, so they wanted that in the lot.

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Speaker 3: There is a lot to go that goes into But we're of course we've both were former players.

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Speaker 2: We're arguing from.

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Speaker 3: The perspective of the players, and we're arguing from the perspective of how recovery works and how sleep works. And I think that's why we would like to have it start maybe just one and one hour.

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Speaker 2: Just one hour earlier.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, besides that, what a great first match that was played, No question, I watched Coco play every match. That was by far the best match she's played the tournament. I think she came out hitting her forehand really clearly, aggressively swinging through it, which is literally the biggest issue that she has. She sort of has that windscreen wiper forehand finish and if you don't accelerate through that, it's going to be in the bottom of the net.

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Speaker 2: And then when you get.

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Speaker 1: Nervous or when you get nervous, if you don't swing, it becomes just a little too short and it sits there. And at I thought Coco did a great job of not panicking at the beginning, because Saballanka came.

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Speaker 2: Out like she's done against everybody. It was just like seven.

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Speaker 1: Points in a row, like oh my God, goes up to love It's like here we go. But then all of a sudden, especially from courtside, you could see the shift with the anxiety level of Sabolenka when Coco broke back to go to one, and then all of a sudden, it was like, oh, we've got the match that we expected on her hands, Coco making a million balls, Coco not missing the forehand, Coco hitting her back end great, Coco started to serve well, and then you saw all of a sudden, Saballanka went from controlling it to oh shit, she's back to lockdown mode of not missing. And then you could see the anxiety level grow. And there was one point on her serve when she lost her serve. I think it was at four to three, where she won a point to go like fifteen all or something, and she screamed really loud for the first time, like god, And I thought, oh, that's a lot of anxiety for someone who's leading us Upper Break right now.

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Speaker 2: And sure enough, that's the game she lost.

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Speaker 1: Because when Sabalanca is obviously always a bit of a nutter and always a little bit anxious looking, but you can tell when the anxiety grows just at ten percent, because all of a sudden, her timing goes completely off on her groundies and she misses by a way like in the bottom of the net or twelve feet wide and you're.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh shit.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, she's starting to press, knowing that Coco's getting the ball back.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't know what to do.

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Speaker 1: I could tell that, like all the anxiety from the US Oprah was like entering her body.

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Speaker 2: And then it became a match.

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Speaker 1: And then Coco was five four thirty love and missed relatively easy FOURHANDIX five yeah, but the first set and I was like, yeah, six five, and I was like, oh boy. And then you could see Coco just realized, oh no, my forehand, because the next point she had a relatively easy forehand and just hit it so badly with no racket heead speed whatsoever. And I hadn't seen that for at least the whole set, and I went, oh boy, this is going to be a tie break again, and sure enough she was.

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Speaker 2: Broken into a tiebreak.

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Speaker 1: It was, but it was so emotionally up and down that first set.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy. It was.

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Speaker 3: It was really really high quality, I have to say. And two things on Coco's forehand. I think when she plays people like Saballeenka, she knows she has to hit it right. When she plays Marta Costuk, she feels like she can get away with just putting it in and scraping by. Yeah, and scraping by on her athleticism, right, And I think she likes the pace. I think when somebody hits with and the thing is with Sablenka's forehand. We talked about it over the course of the fortnite many times. Yes, it's fast, but it's also a bit heavy, so she can get under the ball. It's not necessarily as flat as other girls play it, and so she.

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Speaker 2: Can get under the ball.

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Speaker 3: And I think that suits her really well, that ball, because it's fast so she doesn't have to generate too much, but it still sits up enough that she can get under the ball with that extreme of a grip. And I think that's why the head to head is slightly in favor of Coco, because I don't think the Saballenka forehand bothers her as much.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't.

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Speaker 1: And it was interesting because I saw them both, and I saw Saberlenka in particular, who had so the choices of where she was going to go with her backhand, and rather than go to the forehand, she went big to the back end, which is normally something where she's like, oh, I'm going to win this battle. I'm going to win back in to back end against anybody, and arguably you could say that, but against Coco negative, she's not going to win that battle. Coco loves you hitting the ball hard to her back end and her back end because she's so athletic, she's going to win that boar a lot. So you could tell that she was like panished, but she was like trying to almost make a statement, I'm going to hit you off the backhand, and then she's like, oh shit, that's not working. So it was just so fascinating to watch this sort of like this whole matchup. And you're right because in the next match with the Stremska and John they both hit the ball harder than Sablenka. We showed it on the stats and because I said, I said something alike, yastrems.

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Speaker 2: Skeetz the ball so big, both of these two.

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Speaker 1: And then the guy that was working with, Chris Fawler, He's like really, and I was like, oh, yeah, I think you get. You get a little bit confused because the grunt is so loud. It sound like you're like, oh my god, that ball's coming so big. But it isn't, because we proved it by showing that those two after them actually hit the ball harder.

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Speaker 2: So I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to Sevellanca, particularly the forehand, she puts just enough spin, which is by the way, while she's playing better yeah, on the ball, which allows Coco to actually get under it a little bit.

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Speaker 2: So, but the tiebreakers, it was it was.

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Speaker 3: I think two things about Coco. I think she lost the first set because of her serve. Again, it just let her down with the double faults in the most important moments.

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Speaker 2: I think at thirty fifty in the first set or something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think on the after she missed the forehand, she had a double fail to go thirty all.

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Speaker 2: And that's the best feeling in the world on the other side.

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Speaker 1: Because you're like, oh, her weaknesses are cracking exactly, because that's just the mental signal I got her.

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Speaker 3: She's choking, she's tied, she's tense. But then I have to also say, Coco water competitive her, Yeah, because just looking at the tennis arena, Sablenka should win this match and the form she's in right now six two sixty three, but just by sheer competitiveness and mental strength and mental fortitude and athleticism. Of course that back end cocoa almost and I swear to God, if she had won that first set, it would have been seven five sixty three, because you could exactly what you said. And I was watching in the green room getting ready for the next match, so I was like a million miles away, and the anxiety was bouncing off of the roof, and you could just feel that US Open trauma, let's say, because she should have won that final.

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Speaker 1: And the crowd was loud last night, the well because the roof was closed also, it was even louder, and you could probably think in some respects As for Sabileanka that oh god, there was no question of scar tissue. I actually, after after the match, I did the flash interview with her for ESPN and I did ask her, was there a moment the US Open came into your mind?

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Speaker 2: And she said absolutely, which is.

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Speaker 1: Interesting because some people say no, and Sabalanka is not a bullshitter.

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Speaker 2: She's going to tell you the truth. She's like, yeah, there's no question.

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Speaker 1: That started to creep into my mind a little bit because it was very similar upper set and a break, like looking comfortably in the crowd brought it back, and there's no question in the crowd. I think the crowd were very even in that match last night, but of course they always root for the underdogs.

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Speaker 3: When what happened, yes, exactly, because Arena was up the entire first set until Coco turned it around.

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Speaker 1: She want seven first seven points, so the crowd are like, oh, no, this is going to be a Pooper Scooper match, you know, and then all of a sudden.

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Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, we've got a match.

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Speaker 1: So I think they're really and frankly, I think the Sabalanca grunt kind of gets to people and gets annoying, and I think some.

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Speaker 2: People that are really truly neutral starts.

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Speaker 1: Sort of shifting towards at the player that's not making the noise and not being like, you know, obnoxious in their eyes, and they started pulling for Coco, I think in that regard because of that.

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Speaker 2: But you know, we know that arenas.

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Speaker 1: Well a nice girl.

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Speaker 2: Both of them are really likable. I have to say.

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Speaker 3: I think you can tell that audience just flock to both of them because they are an arena different than than Coco, also a great competitor, just in her very expressive right, you see the anxiety, you see the she's a classic, She's a classic, but just both in their own ways. And this is what I really like about them. And I want to put Ega and and Rebeckena.

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Speaker 2: Into this as well.

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Speaker 3: Like we talk about lack of personalities, and yes, maybe Ega and Rebeccna a little bit more introverted, but they all have their very own thing on court if you think about it, the Ega nervousness, the anxiety that propelsal to do better than the Rebeckena ice queen type of thing where she never reacts to anything. They all have their own manner and how they behave on court, and I have to say I really like it. I feel like there is this theory, the silhouette theory. I don't know if you know that, and it's about how somebody is iconic when you can just tell them by the silhouettes, like the Michael Jordan classic Elvis.

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Speaker 2: You know, just by seeing the hair, you know.

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Speaker 3: Exactly who you're talking who it is Emmy Winehouse. And I feel like if I could just glance at one of these players and see how they walk and behave on the court, I could ride away place them. And I think it's a it's a great moment for women's tanners, and yeah, the future looks bright because let's talk about the second match.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so chinwin Chin.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's interesting to me because I'm just gonna toot my own horn here because you know how I like to do that. But ESPN sent out an email every single tournament proprior to okay, who's you know, who your two picks and who your two picks outside of the top ten to do well in the tournament? And I picked much enough in the men's and I picked Q. I picked chinwin. He gets to do well in the women's. Now did I think she make the final? I didn't know, but I certainly knew she had the capability of doing that, just because the last twelve months has been an epic rise for her and she's now with that win in the top ten in the world. So you know, admittedly, I picked Eager in the tournament and I picked Novak so for just to be honest, but my outsider is looking really good.

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Speaker 2: But boy, talk about great composure.

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Speaker 1: Yustramska came out, I have to say, considering they've never been in a semifinal, either of them, considering you know, the enormity of the crowd and the moment. I thought they both came out looking very composed. Yustremsis obviously composed because she's got to be fucking exhausted, and she's played like forty eight matches, you know, to get their seven matches to get to the semifinal, which is pretty extraordinary, especially.

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Speaker 2: In the quality. She won every match in three.

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Speaker 3: Sets, and in the when she got to the manger, all her opponents were top fifty opponents. She only needs top fifty with Bondrishiva at number seven in the world in the first round, but she beat all top top fifty opponents and interestingly in two sets, so clearly the outside the top one hundred players somehow harder for her.

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Speaker 1: To I think she doesn't focus maybe on them or just overplays, who knows, But her ranking will rise tremendously after this.

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Speaker 2: She'll be almost seeded for the next Grand Slam.

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of players will appreciate that they don't have to play her. But you know, it was a really, really good competitive match. There's no question that Astronska came out playing unbelievable got up to love as well.

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Speaker 2: Last night you're like, okay, But then Q.

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Speaker 1: Has this amazing ability to be so composed. And I love her personality on the court because I think she's super composed. She doesn't show a lot of facial expressions or being upset or being happy. But then when she plays a great point and she lets out there cool. Yes, I love that because she's letting her opponent know that, you know what, I'm composed, but I'm also to step on you when it's time, and very similar to Pete Sampress.

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Speaker 2: Pete Sampress was like that.

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Speaker 1: He's like very very cool, and then when he went on that one time, you were like, oh shit. Roger was like that federer very rarely let out to come on. But I love qu'es personality like that.

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Speaker 3: And what you said, what you just said, now, I want to pick up on that because that is such astute observation that you said about when she's there, when she's in front, she steps on you because she is a front runner. We had the stat and the booth. When she breaks early, she wins eighty two percent of sets. That's an incredible value. And she also is eighteen and one when she wins the first set in Grand slams, and the only time she lost was the Ego Shiantech match at the French Open when she had the period crams. Do you remember that she's and she's playing on ego and clay, so even without period crams, it would have been really tough to pull through. And she was so young and that was two years that was two years ago, So exactly what you said, she's an app front runner.

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Speaker 2: And who do we know to be front runners? The se Arenas, Arenas, that's it.

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Speaker 3: Well, the big champions, right, the Rogers, Yeah, the Rafas, the Novaks when they break early. You can go take a photograph of yourself how you looked at that moment.

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Speaker 1: You can walk to the net and shake hands. But I thought she was great. Yustromska, you know, had the trainer outd at one point. I'm not sure what happened there, but you know, she has played a lot of tennis, so wouldn't surprise me if she's a little injured. But just overall, I think chin Win is a player that you know, there is so much about her game that can get better too, as particular the second serve her volleys because she hits such a big ball and heavy ball. It's going to actually allow her to come into the net more than she realizes because women on the run, you know, whether it's a back end or forehand, is that when the balls hit with that top spin, it's jumping out of their head zone. So there's going to be balls that they just get to, but it's going to be in the air.

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Speaker 2: And if she can learn to just.

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Speaker 1: Take that out of the air, I think that'll be even an added thing for her. So there's so many things that she can get better at.

00:18:05
Speaker 2: So let's play it.

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Speaker 3: But both players, really, I think Diana also, I think also that she played good. I think she probably had matches where she would say she played better, but she played, as you said, seven thousand matches coming here, so she clearly was a bit tired. She returned so hard and it was really, oh my god, so hard, yes, so hard, by far the hardest of all the eight quarter finalists actually, And it was so great to see how chin Wen got used to it. In the beginning, she was overwhelmed by the pace that came at her, but then she just got used to it and she kept doing this little pick up and utilizing the rally, and oh god, on the forehand side with that extreme grip. I was like, oh my god, that's really hard. And I think if Diana can develop her defensive game a little bit, because you can see it.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when she's on the Dame run, she still tried to go for the most.

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Speaker 3: She goes for a winner, but you see why because she never actually catches her body weight to cover the other core or she always runs through it. And if you run through it just a few steps, you have to hit a winner because you're not coming back. And so if she can develop that maybe a bit more, maybe it's a strength thing.

00:19:11
Speaker 2: Maybe she just needs.

00:19:12
Speaker 3: To get a bit stronger and the legs and the glutes that she can catch her body weight.

00:19:17
Speaker 2: And chin Wen does that amazing.

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Speaker 3: And I really think, and you'd asked her in the interview about it, I really think her defensive game yesterday, which was the difference because she got a few slices back where you thought the point was over. Diana doesn't like the short slice into the that's the only shot she accelerates her wrist on and her stroke on is when she gets that short slice into the Like Taylor Fritz, we talked about it in the other day, and so for both players, still very young, incredible prospects. If they improve a few of the aspects of the game, I think they will be contenders at every single Grand Slam if they put their mindset. And you know, there are so many things you have to stay healthy, you have to learn to deal with the expectations that now come your way, and so on and so forth. But just strictly tennis wise speaking, I think both of these players have incredible potential, especially chin When because she has pois Yeah.

00:20:10
Speaker 2: The poisons.

00:20:11
Speaker 1: Although Ystremsk has improved hers as well because she used to be a little bit more petulant and she default matches and call the trainer out and all the bullshit that she does and had done in the past. I think she's hopefully realizing that that's actually A not.

00:20:24
Speaker 2: Cool and B.

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Speaker 1: I don't need to do that, No, I'm too good, Like I gotta get the respect from the locker room back, and that's you know, slowly, hopefully with these results, she'll get that respect back in the locker room because of it, because she's had.

00:20:38
Speaker 2: Some dobus defaults in the past.

00:20:40
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say that, Like six Love five love and they said.

00:20:42
Speaker 2: I've had enough classic dds the classic d default.

00:20:46
Speaker 1: Yes, that's it and we'll get that put on a T shirt. So finals, Sabolenka, chinwin.

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

00:20:53
Speaker 3: I think so Arena, I'm I'm going to back Zabalenka. I think she's I said it before, I'll say it again. She's the player to be that this Australian as this year is Australian Open. I think she should be at this form, she should be unplayable. I think she has these quirks where she just wanders off for a few games and overplays and instead of just you know, putting the ball in and waiting for the right volley, she sometimes just gets nervous and anxious.

00:21:25
Speaker 1: But she is.

00:21:28
Speaker 3: Just, I want to say, two levels ahead of the pack right now.

00:21:31
Speaker 2: I will say though.

00:21:33
Speaker 3: The most impressive thing about Gin went to me was she had all the pressure ever since the quarterfinals on her shoulders, even though the first time she reached the second round, second sorty, second round, second week of a Grand Slam was four months ago at the US Open. So she's not experienced and she did it so well. She was expected to make the final. That's the toughest place to be in, especially as a young player, and she made the final and now lutely nothing to lose. She can play with full freedom, she can go for it, she can swing freely, and it's going to be interesting to see how Arena reacts to that happiness off the forehand, because she hasn't had that so much so far.

00:22:12
Speaker 1: I did interview Ginuin after the match and her when I asked her about playing the final, because the last time they played, she got absolutely smacked of the court at the US Open by Sablenka. But she's a more experienced player now and she's arguably a better player now. But I did ask her about how she's going to turn it around, and basically she said, look, it's a final. Anything can happen in a final, and you just never know. And I thought that's really smart. She's not like, oh, it's my first, it's her third, Like you know, she wasn't thinking about Sabolenca being this player.

00:22:43
Speaker 2: She's like, there's vulnerabilities there.

00:22:46
Speaker 1: Everyone has vulnerabilities in finals, and I'm going to take advantage of that.

00:22:49
Speaker 2: So we'll see.

00:22:50
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's a competitive match, because if it is, it'll be great.

00:22:53
Speaker 3: And I have to say one thing, and I have to make this point. Remember five six days ago when everyone was talking about how the women's draft fell apart and how all the seeds are dropping like flies. In the end, all is good because we have the second best player in the world in one of the bottom halves that came through, and we have a young, very talented now top ten player on the other side. So if we could have signed this before the Australian Open, all of us would because chin Wen has been the hope for the last two years and Arena obviously has played so solidly on the Grand Slam stages. So really nothing went that much awry.

00:23:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I can tell you the tournament's happy about it, especially Australia. The Australian Open is the Oceania Pacific Grand Slam. Yes, And so trust me, when you have a Chinese player in the final and you've got six billion people literally I'm not making that number up this time, like are going to be watching this match, and the interest in tennis in China again with what happened with Lena, who's here at this tournament because it's a tenth year anniversary, which is fantastic, and I have a feeling and I don't know this, I have a feeling she might be the one giving the trophy out.

00:24:03
Speaker 2: Oh, that would be cool because that's one of the.

00:24:04
Speaker 1: Reasons why they probably you know, she's down here, so we'll see. I don't know who's going to be, that's just a guess.

00:24:09
Speaker 2: And wouldn't it be.

00:24:10
Speaker 1: Great, Yes, and amazing if it was Chinwin who ended up winning the tournament and getting the trophy from Lena, But either way, it's going to be a great fin Yeah.

00:24:19
Speaker 3: And just a little anecdote with our booth is next to CCTV. Oh, so we ran into the Chinese reporters after Chin win one and they were besides costs, beside themselves, and we asked them, how many people do you think we'll watch? And they were just gesturing like they can't even place the number.

00:24:38
Speaker 2: How many? Well, they were so excited. It was really fun to us.

00:24:41
Speaker 1: And she is going to influence some little eleven year old kid to take up tennis and play tennis, because that's what happened when we've all seen the photo of Chinwin watching the women's final when Lina won it, and this big smile on her face, and who would have thought ten years later she'd be having a chance to do the same thing.

00:24:57
Speaker 2: So role models are very.

00:24:59
Speaker 1: Very importan just real quick, because we don't we don't want to keep going on and on forever. Novak and Sinner, It's going to be a great match today.

00:25:07
Speaker 2: I cannot wait for both.

00:25:08
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, all semi finals, the laymen's and men's side are just little cupcakes with a little bit of jam filling, a nice frosting and frostings.

00:25:21
Speaker 2: Yes, no sprinkles, just a little bit of sprinkle incline. Yeah, what you know what the sprinkle is? Yeah, that you and I get to announce the matches. Oh, that's true. That is the sprinkle. And just two words.

00:25:33
Speaker 3: Because the Germans were in the doubles semifinals Men's Cup, Fat and Huntman, so I watched the entire doubles I think maybe this was the first time I watched the doubles from first point to last and both men's semi finals, I know, and in the third set tiebreaker and it was incredible. It was so exciting and a true nail bier Rohamopana forty three years old. I mean, honestly, re name, I'm a little bit this pointed by you, because I still expect you to come back and show these girls and get your shit together, start working out, fix your shoulder, fix your neck, and stop being a pussy as bitch.

00:26:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's the problem. The shoulder is not going to be hitting serves the way I used to. But I'll tell you what, if I could, I would definitely get back out there. Having said that, speaking of doubles, what about Siuewey shape. I know drew to another final aget in women's doubles. That was an amazing match yesterday. There were some crazy points and Shue is just Suwey is just classic. I mean the ship that she can pull off on the doubles court. I mean I played against her a couple of times and she's just hilarious. Zero power except when she wants to, she can slap a winner here and there. This is what the women and in particular the guys are still playing sort of traditional doubles, especially Rohan Bapana and Nat Ebden.

00:26:50
Speaker 2: They're serving and bowling, They're coming to the net.

00:26:52
Speaker 1: Doubles is always going to be about taking away certain angles and being at the net is a very important thing. But also Doubles is not about eating the shit out of the ball. Doubles is about placement of the shot. Doubles is about putting your opponents in difficult situations. Doubles is about rolling the ball to people's feet they can't volley instead of just bashing every ball. She's the one player out there, and merchants, I have to say, to a certain degree, they are creative. You have to be creative in doubles, and you have to play certain angles and certain shots and understand why your opponents are And no one does it better still to this day than Suway.

00:27:26
Speaker 2: And so she show to another Grand Slam and steps.

00:27:28
Speaker 3: It wouldn't be as if we didn't mention two frosty handshakes on the women's side, Sinakov and Krichikova, who splits, played.

00:27:36
Speaker 2: Each other in the quarterfinals.

00:27:38
Speaker 3: Frosty Kova with storm Hunter went through frosty handshake yesterday.

00:27:43
Speaker 2: Elise Matt and so used to play with storm Hunter. Frosty handshake. Frosty handshake.

00:27:48
Speaker 3: So we're just going to put it out there in the universe without commenting on it further.

00:27:53
Speaker 2: Frosty handshakes.

00:27:54
Speaker 1: All right, Medvedev, this should be another t shirt, frosty handshakes and then on the back of photo of Osto Penko.

00:28:02
Speaker 2: Because she's the queen.

00:28:04
Speaker 1: But anyway, Medvedev and Verev in the evening, I'm pumped about that as well. Hopefully Medvedev can like finish this Zverev off and have him like deal with his court case, because if I have to listen to one more fucking person talk about, well, is Zverev still playing, Well, it's the way the law works. Kids, you can't stop him from playing. But I just hope that Medvedev makes it through to another final. He's played more freaking tennis this two weeks he's been on the court. He looked like, as I said, looked like the guy that walked out of the desert after like trying to find his car and he got lost because he lost his keys or something that, you know.

00:28:39
Speaker 3: He looked like he looked like he was in the basement and the apocalypse happened and he walked out and the humanity was wiped off of earth, my god, and.

00:28:49
Speaker 1: He walked around for three days getting sunburned, like his hair, and he's like, anyway, I freaking love the guy so much, so hopefully he can get through that match, and I'm not. I listen, I am so beyond respect. My level of respect for Novak is through the roof like he's And it would be kind of fitting for him to break the twenty four, even though Serena didn't do it, to beat it with Margaret Court, Oh yeah, because you know, I'm desperate for someone to like knock Margaret caught off of her perch of the having the most Grand Slams even though she won ten of them down here with like half a field. But I just but I would love to see Yannick breakthrough. I said that I think he can win a Grand Slam this year, and I thought the Austrain Open was actually a really good place for him because I think the court suits him, the ball suits him. So over five sets, Nianik has to compartmentalize every set, one set next, one set next, Like you can't be like, oh my god, I've got to win another set. You just have to compartmentalize and go set by set, And I think that he's going to do that today.

00:29:50
Speaker 2: Can he win? We'll see.

00:29:51
Speaker 1: I can't wait for these matches today. Thanks for joining us today.

00:29:55
Speaker 2: You little added anything. I don't I don't.

00:29:58
Speaker 3: I sign most of the things you say, except for the controversial stuff.

00:30:03
Speaker 2: I hope you get the only heat for that.

00:30:06
Speaker 1: But that's why i'm here, kid, that's why I'm here.

00:30:08
Speaker 2: But anyway, all right, guys, thanks again for listening to us. It's daytime.

00:30:12
Speaker 1: We're gonna go shower and get ourselves ready for the day, so thanks for listening.

00:30:17
Speaker 2: So everyone cheers.