ESCAPE FROM BIGFOOT | PROSPECTING FOR GOLD AND FINDING BIGFOOT INSTEAD (PACIFIC NORTHWEST)

<v Speaker 1>On this episode a Sasquatch theory. I'm sitting down with Eric,
<v Speaker 1>an explorer, prospector, and adventurer who has spent years chasing
<v Speaker 1>gold in the remote canyons of California and Oregon. But
<v Speaker 1>while searching for treasure, he uncovered something far more mysterious.
<v Speaker 1>Eric and his friends began noticing strange tree breaks, bizarre
<v Speaker 1>sounds echoing through the ravines, and sightings reported on the
<v Speaker 1>BFRO in the exact same regions where they were working.
<v Speaker 1>In what started as small signs eventually escalated into full
<v Speaker 1>blown encounters. They heard ground shaking booms, bipedal footsteps approaching
<v Speaker 1>camp rock, clacks, wood knocks, and an unforgettable night where
<v Speaker 1>he and his girlfriend believed they were being surrounded by
<v Speaker 1>multiple sasquatch. Their most terrifying experience came deep in the wilderness,
<v Speaker 1>roaring voices moving hundreds of feet in so seconds, a
<v Speaker 1>desperate escape through the mountains, and a chilling moment where
<v Speaker 1>they somehow ended up right back where the screams began,
<v Speaker 1>leaving Eric convinced they may have crossed into something like
<v Speaker 1>a portal. Tonight, we break down every encounter, every detail,
<v Speaker 1>and every theory. Stay tuned. This is a wild one.
<v Speaker 1>If you have a bigfoot encounter you would like to
<v Speaker 1>share with me here on Sasquatch Theory, feel free to
<v Speaker 1>reach out by email at Sasquatch Theory at outlook dot com.
<v Speaker 1>With all that being said, let's dive straight into Eric's
<v Speaker 1>encounters from the Pacific Northwest. Eric, Welcome to Sasquatch Theory.
<v Speaker 1>How are you doing today?
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing well.
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you having me on this absolutely, I'm glad
<v Speaker 1>you contacted me. Eric, If you would tell me a
<v Speaker 1>little bit about yourself, where you're from, and your bigfoot
<v Speaker 1>encounters and experiences from the very beginning place.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my name is Eric Heiser.
<v Speaker 3>I've always been an adventurer, traveled a lot, and I
<v Speaker 3>really got into exploring the deep woods looking for gold.
<v Speaker 3>I was determined to get rich on gold. I was
<v Speaker 3>living in California at the time, and my encounters all
<v Speaker 3>started when I embarked on this quest to get rich
<v Speaker 3>on gold. This was about fifteen years ago that it
<v Speaker 3>all began, and I was going deep into the woods
<v Speaker 3>all throughout California, Northern California, Placer County, Sierra County, Plumus County.
<v Speaker 3>Those areas, and gosh, the amount of encounters I had
<v Speaker 3>would just escalate over time, and it seemed like they
<v Speaker 3>got more intense over time as well. And not just me,
<v Speaker 3>but my friends were all having encounters as well, in
<v Speaker 3>the same areas, sometimes the exact same area. So it
<v Speaker 3>really all started. I was going to this creek, actually
<v Speaker 3>it was the rivers, the Major Rivers, one of the
<v Speaker 3>American rivers, and I was going down the river regularly,
<v Speaker 3>and the first thing I noticed was I was going
<v Speaker 3>on the same trail every week. And then one day
<v Speaker 3>I look at the trail and there's all these trees
<v Speaker 3>snapped across the trail and they were What was so
<v Speaker 3>interesting about it that caught my attention, because I wasn't
<v Speaker 3>thinking bigfoot at all at the time, it was the
<v Speaker 3>fact that they were all snapped in the exact same place,
<v Speaker 3>at the exact same height, and they were all healthy.
<v Speaker 3>These trees were about four inches in diameter and there's
<v Speaker 3>probably about six of them snapped, and they were about
<v Speaker 3>a foot off the ground where they were snapped, and
<v Speaker 3>it was clear that they were done intentionally. They were
<v Speaker 3>all very congruent in nature. It was it just looked
<v Speaker 3>very purposefully done and so I looked at this and
<v Speaker 3>I thought, wow, that is so strange. I just it's
<v Speaker 3>just one of those things that takes you back. I
<v Speaker 3>continued on my day trip, had no issues, but it
<v Speaker 3>would be maybe a couple months after this that I
<v Speaker 3>had my first encounter upriver from this location. Now it's
<v Speaker 3>important to note that at this time, the show Finding
<v Speaker 3>Bigfoot was on. I told my friend, oh, this show
<v Speaker 3>is so fake, and he goes, no, you should look
<v Speaker 3>into it. And I'm like, okay, I'm gonna prove you wrong.
<v Speaker 3>So I started doing some reading and I go, oh,
<v Speaker 3>my gosh, I think Bigfoot's real. There's enough evidence to
<v Speaker 3>support this. So I start looking up areas I was prospecting,
<v Speaker 3>and I found that there were recent encounters daylight sightings
<v Speaker 3>with people around Colefax and Auburn at this time. And
<v Speaker 3>so I go up river a few months later with
<v Speaker 3>a friend and it is the summer of I want
<v Speaker 3>to say, it's about twenty fifteen, and we're going upriver
<v Speaker 3>middle of the day, and this was really strange. Situation
<v Speaker 3>is super remote area for a couple miles up this
<v Speaker 3>remote canyon and we're in a bedrock canyon and off
<v Speaker 3>to the left hand side is this steep cliff. It's
<v Speaker 3>just too steep for people, and it's full of trees,
<v Speaker 3>super thick, you can't even see inside. And we have
<v Speaker 3>to pass this along this bedrock ledge and we have
<v Speaker 3>to kind of shimey along the ledge to get further on.
<v Speaker 3>And so we're like, okay, we're looking at it. This
<v Speaker 3>is this is gonna be a little hairy, but we'll
<v Speaker 3>get through it. And just as I'm going up ahead
<v Speaker 3>to go ahead along this little cliff ledge, we hear
<v Speaker 3>this strange sound that goes like wuck. It was so
<v Speaker 3>fast but so loud and so strange, and it was
<v Speaker 3>right next to us in this thick embankment and it
<v Speaker 3>was just like something that you couldn't wrap your mind around.
<v Speaker 3>There's no dead trees, no wind, and it was these
<v Speaker 3>two sounds, these three sounds in succession, like almost like
<v Speaker 3>hitting a tree with a bat twice quickly and then
<v Speaker 3>cracking a tree instantly. But you know, now, in hindsight,
<v Speaker 3>it seems like this was something that was like breaking
<v Speaker 3>something with its hand, hitting something with its hand.
<v Speaker 2>It had this unique sound to it.
<v Speaker 3>It was heavy but soft at the same time, very quick,
<v Speaker 3>breaking up an entire large, healthy tree in a quick
<v Speaker 3>motion is exactly what it sounded like like. It wasn't
<v Speaker 3>cutting down a tree, it wasn't chopping with an axe.
<v Speaker 3>It's very it wasn't a tree breaking slowly.
<v Speaker 2>It was what crack. It's just very strange.
<v Speaker 3>And we continued on our trip no issues. And you know,
<v Speaker 3>some people upriver of that location had reported some encounters
<v Speaker 3>after that, but nothing happened. However, it got the seed
<v Speaker 3>in me. Now I'm going, Okay, there's some weird stuff going.
<v Speaker 2>On, and I'm going in the woods.
<v Speaker 3>I think I want to go out there and look
<v Speaker 3>just for a bigfoot. So me and this friend decide
<v Speaker 3>we're going to go and try to have a big
<v Speaker 3>foot encounter, and I might as well go try to
<v Speaker 3>get some gold at the same time, because it seems
<v Speaker 3>like the really good gold and the bigfoot encounters were
<v Speaker 3>in the same place because they're so remote. So we
<v Speaker 3>decided to go to southern Oregon. And the location I
<v Speaker 3>chose in southern Oregon was near Cave Junction. The reason
<v Speaker 3>I chose this specific location was because I was looking
<v Speaker 3>at some gold miners they were dredging, and they said
<v Speaker 3>that during the day they were dredging. They're getting good gold.
<v Speaker 3>And most importantly, they would look up on the embankment
<v Speaker 3>above them during the day and they would see a
<v Speaker 3>bigfoot watching them while they were dredging. So I go, wow,
<v Speaker 3>recent encounters. They've got gold. It's a proven gold district.
<v Speaker 3>So I bring my detector, I stay light some gold pants,
<v Speaker 3>and we go west of Cave Junction and we're like
<v Speaker 3>twenty miles waist west of Cave Junction. Look at it
<v Speaker 3>on a map, it just disappears into nothingness.
<v Speaker 2>There is nothing there.
<v Speaker 3>It is one of the most remote places and probably
<v Speaker 3>one of the best places to look for.
<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot in California Oregon.
<v Speaker 3>And We're going on these dirt roads and I just
<v Speaker 3>I don't know where I'm going. I'm just taking cuts.
<v Speaker 3>I take a cut, a cut, a cut, and the
<v Speaker 3>road's getting worse and worse, and huge potholes, giant boulders overgrown,
<v Speaker 3>and eventually we get to this point where we're right
<v Speaker 3>along a creek, which is a huge vedrock canyon, a
<v Speaker 3>huge mountain off to the side, massive mountain, and it's
<v Speaker 3>really incredible. When you look at this mountain that's right
<v Speaker 3>next to the creek, you see like plateaus and tears,
<v Speaker 3>and it's just lush and you can see the mist
<v Speaker 3>in the cloud layer in the mountain and super thick
<v Speaker 3>with trees, super steep but like flatter areas, and it's
<v Speaker 3>just there's no people around, no cities, no towns, no explorers,
<v Speaker 3>no hikers, and it just looked like a full ecosystem
<v Speaker 3>unto itself. And I just remember looking at that like, wow,
<v Speaker 3>that would be a good place to like live if
<v Speaker 3>you're just some big animal. And it's the whole place.
<v Speaker 3>There's no people going in there. We didn't see any
<v Speaker 3>cars at all. It was so far from anything. And
<v Speaker 3>so during the day we go, Okay, let's set up camp.
<v Speaker 3>We still had a lot of daylight. I go around
<v Speaker 3>the hillside, I go through the creek and I'm panning, crevicing,
<v Speaker 3>metal detecting, and I also go up on the hillside
<v Speaker 3>towards that mountain. I don't get too high up because
<v Speaker 3>it gets really steep and thick. The forest looked really scary,
<v Speaker 3>and I'm doing whoops, you know, woo whoop, whoop, And
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing rock clacks click click click click clack, and
<v Speaker 3>doing woodknocks bringing my flip flops together wack. I'm making
<v Speaker 3>all sorts of ruckus and it starts to get late,
<v Speaker 3>and we go back to camp.
<v Speaker 2>The sun is starting to set, and I was with
<v Speaker 2>a lady friend. It was her time.
<v Speaker 3>It was that time of month, and we know that
<v Speaker 3>the pheromones from human females can attract all sorts of
<v Speaker 3>species and deadly predators, including bears, mountain lions, and can
<v Speaker 3>really do a number of great apes, which I found
<v Speaker 3>after the fact. And so she goes pee and she
<v Speaker 3>peas at this place and there's this wind like that
<v Speaker 3>just drifted all our smells straight through the canyon, and
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, wow, okay, so we got her smells going
<v Speaker 3>through the canyon. We have all my hooting and hollering
<v Speaker 3>during the day, we have a fire going which you
<v Speaker 3>could see for miles around, especially if you're up on
<v Speaker 3>that mountain across from us. And then to put the
<v Speaker 3>cherry on top. Just as we're getting ready to go
<v Speaker 3>to bed, we put out the fire. I'm I swing
<v Speaker 3>some like piebar I had, and I accidentally hit some
<v Speaker 3>old piece of metal that was in the ground and
<v Speaker 3>it just made the loudest sound in the world.
<v Speaker 2>It was just wo wait wait, and.
<v Speaker 3>It just echoed for miles and it was just so
<v Speaker 3>crazy loud. I'm just like, oh my gosh, if we
<v Speaker 3>weren't going to get messed with before and now we will.
<v Speaker 3>And I had the feeling that we might have an
<v Speaker 3>encounter because the remoteness and the area had recent reports
<v Speaker 3>from the gold Drudger as well as historic reports from
<v Speaker 3>the VFRO database.
<v Speaker 2>There's like one or two from.
<v Speaker 3>Some books from the eighteen hundreds of some hunters that
<v Speaker 3>gave venison to this hairy ape man that approached him
<v Speaker 3>at a fire, and so there was historic encounters in
<v Speaker 3>this area and then recent encounters. So in the back
<v Speaker 3>of my head, I'm thinking, gosh, there's a possibility. And
<v Speaker 3>I had my go pro ready with one button mode
<v Speaker 3>so I could record it in an instant. We're laying
<v Speaker 3>down in our tent. It's dark, it's getting darker, and
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking I'm ready if something comes.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm gonna turn this GoPro on.
<v Speaker 3>I'm just laying on my back on the ground and
<v Speaker 3>it's quiet, and I'm laying there and I'm kind of
<v Speaker 3>feeling anxious because of all the ruck is I caused
<v Speaker 3>during the day and night, and it's peaceful. It's peaceful,
<v Speaker 3>and then I start to hear something that sounds odd.
<v Speaker 3>It sounded like a very heavy thing slowly creeping through
<v Speaker 3>the woods. But I just didn't want to assume that
<v Speaker 3>this could be a big foot tiptoeing through the woods.
<v Speaker 3>It sounded like something on two feet, slowly crunching leaves
<v Speaker 3>and twigs, coming closer to us. We had trees all
<v Speaker 3>around our camp, big trees, all sorts of hiding places.
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of dead leaf litter in the woods
<v Speaker 2>around us.
<v Speaker 3>But it sounded like and then just a little pause,
<v Speaker 3>and then and it just sounded like it's coming closer.
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, this has got to be my imagination.
<v Speaker 3>This can't be happening. It's got to be birds. But
<v Speaker 3>it was just so hard to shake off this feeling like, gosh,
<v Speaker 3>this sounds like something heavy creeping towards us.
<v Speaker 2>But then this sounds stopped.
<v Speaker 3>And I go my imagination, my imagination, my imagination. A
<v Speaker 3>couple of minutes ago by, and I go, h it's nothing,
<v Speaker 3>there's nothing. So I sit there and I'm like, you
<v Speaker 3>know what, I think I might be able to sleep tonight.
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna I'm gonna try to sleep. And just as
<v Speaker 3>I feel like I'm ready to fall asleep, then all
<v Speaker 3>of a sudden we hear and feel.
<v Speaker 2>Oooh boom, boom boom.
<v Speaker 3>It just shook the earth and I felt it through
<v Speaker 3>my body. I was laying on my back and I
<v Speaker 3>could just feel the reverberations go through the earth through
<v Speaker 3>my body. I could feel this thing stopping. I could
<v Speaker 3>hear it, I could feel it, and it was very
<v Speaker 3>obvious as making his presence known. There is no two
<v Speaker 3>legged elephants out there. There's nothing that could have created
<v Speaker 3>this sound. I've been around black bear, grizzly bear, polar bear,
<v Speaker 3>mountain lioned moose, you name it. I've had it around me.
<v Speaker 3>I've been around elephants, I've been around the world's largest
<v Speaker 3>and deadliest predators. And nothing could make that sound. Not
<v Speaker 3>even hydraulic equipment could emulate that sound, the unique biological
<v Speaker 3>bipedal heavy footstomping, which is also a behavior of great apes,
<v Speaker 3>by the.
<v Speaker 2>Way, And so.
<v Speaker 3>I immediately my eyes teared up and I got emotional,
<v Speaker 3>and I turn on my capro and I just say
<v Speaker 3>to my friends, Oh my gosh, Bigfoot, he's here. I
<v Speaker 3>just couldn't believe that this was actually happening that I
<v Speaker 3>knew right away. That's the most logical thing this could be.
<v Speaker 3>We're in an area with recent and historical reports, extremely remote,
<v Speaker 3>no people around, Like, what could this be? Somebody give
<v Speaker 3>me a logical explanation. This is the logical explanation that
<v Speaker 3>is this well known, well evidenced, cryptid bigfoots. And so
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, holy crap, there's a bigfoot outside. I undsit
<v Speaker 3>the tent camera rolling, I shine the light into the
<v Speaker 3>forest and it's just it's black, and it's so scary
<v Speaker 3>because it's dead silent, and I'm scanning the light around
<v Speaker 3>with the GoPro rolling and I just I don't see anything.
<v Speaker 3>But I'm also kind of panicking. My heart's racing, my
<v Speaker 3>eyes are darting around. I can't focus on any one thing.
<v Speaker 3>I'm freaking out. And my friend comes out on the
<v Speaker 3>tent and she just she's standing there next to me,
<v Speaker 3>and she just starts to get really nervous, and she goes,
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be here anymore, and I'm just like.
<v Speaker 2>I don't either. We're definitely not sleeping.
<v Speaker 3>Whatever that was is going to keep messing with us,
<v Speaker 3>So there's no way we're sleeping. It's not showing itself,
<v Speaker 3>at least not right now, so let's just get the
<v Speaker 3>hell out of here. So it took us two hours
<v Speaker 3>to pack up, to set up, it took us like
<v Speaker 3>five minutes to take down. We just threw stuff in
<v Speaker 3>the back, left a bunch of stuff at the camps
<v Speaker 3>like we were so scared. I had to go pro
<v Speaker 3>rolling the whole time. And by the way, this was
<v Speaker 3>several years ago. I still haven't gone through and edited
<v Speaker 3>that footage and combed through it. I posted one time
<v Speaker 3>that I had to take it down, but it's been
<v Speaker 3>many years since I had this footage up. Someone told
<v Speaker 3>me I bigfoot on video, and I didn't review the
<v Speaker 3>footage of the reason being because this is traumatic experience.
<v Speaker 3>It also has an next girlfriend in it, so I
<v Speaker 3>got to edit her out. But you know, there's a
<v Speaker 3>lot of trauma associated with these experiences. Like reliving that experience,
<v Speaker 3>it was very scary, and anybody who was there with
<v Speaker 3>me would agree like that was at least something you
<v Speaker 3>can't put your finger on.
<v Speaker 2>So we high tail it out of there. We're fish
<v Speaker 2>tailing out.
<v Speaker 3>And turned almost crashing the car into boulders and botholes
<v Speaker 3>swerving and trying to get out of here. It took
<v Speaker 3>us forever, and then we go. I think we drove
<v Speaker 3>all the way to Grant's Pass. We were just on
<v Speaker 3>such an adrenaline rush, and we get to a motel
<v Speaker 3>and we just look at each other and we're on
<v Speaker 3>such a high, like, oh my gosh, I can't believe
<v Speaker 3>that just happened. And as intense as that was, it
<v Speaker 3>would get a lot worse in a couple of years
<v Speaker 3>with my big foot encounter that happened a couple of
<v Speaker 3>years ago. But we continued the road trip and I
<v Speaker 3>did have some more incidents. What I would do is
<v Speaker 3>I would drive at night on these forest roads, all
<v Speaker 3>sorts of forest roads that they used to maintain to
<v Speaker 3>have access to for the firefighters to fight wildfires. So
<v Speaker 3>you can go all those forest roads, and we would
<v Speaker 3>I would whack my foot flops together just to get
<v Speaker 3>and I've heard it can get their attention. So I
<v Speaker 3>did that every couple of miles all throughout southern Oregon
<v Speaker 3>for days. And there's a few incidences where we had
<v Speaker 3>immediately immediate responses. One of the times was fair. It
<v Speaker 3>was we're in near Cave Junction and I whacked my
<v Speaker 3>foot flops, and it was just like the whole forest
<v Speaker 3>came alive all of a sudden. It was like there's
<v Speaker 3>a knock to my right, a tree shaking to my left.
<v Speaker 3>There was things getting clocked, but it was like all
<v Speaker 3>sorts of noises at once, and I'm just going like,
<v Speaker 3>this can't all be birds and bears or what have
<v Speaker 3>you at once.
<v Speaker 2>There's so many strange sounds and then it just went quiet.
<v Speaker 2>It's like wa, just all this stuff and I'm like, whoa,
<v Speaker 2>whoa is there just like a whole bunch of like
<v Speaker 2>individual bigfoot around me. Like that's what it sounded like.
<v Speaker 3>But I didn't want to jump to conclusion, so I'm
<v Speaker 3>just like, Okay, that was weird. So I just held
<v Speaker 3>up some apples in the air and laid them on
<v Speaker 3>the sides of the road so whatever it was could
<v Speaker 3>come get the apples. And the rest of the trip
<v Speaker 3>was calm and nothing happened. But I went on with
<v Speaker 3>my quest looking for gold for several years, prospecting mining.
<v Speaker 3>I remember telling my friends a couple months after the trip,
<v Speaker 3>two close friends of mine we prospected regularly, and said, hey,
<v Speaker 3>man did foots real? And man there's all sorts of
<v Speaker 3>people encountering in the mountain. These woods were going to
<v Speaker 3>and they told me, thinkfoot's not real, man, you're crazy.
<v Speaker 2>It's so stupid. Well, I told him, you know what,
<v Speaker 2>just give.
<v Speaker 3>Me a call when use you one, because you guys
<v Speaker 3>are going to some pretty squatchy places.
<v Speaker 2>And actually before.
<v Speaker 3>They had their encounter, me and my buddy were going
<v Speaker 3>down in this deep canyon where they went later, deep
<v Speaker 3>down in this canyon on one of the American rivers.
<v Speaker 2>On the hillside.
<v Speaker 3>At one point, we're finding great gold, so you know,
<v Speaker 3>we're just focused on the gold. But my friend goes,
<v Speaker 3>what's that thing up on the hillside? And I look
<v Speaker 3>up on the hillside and it looks like something shaking
<v Speaker 3>a bush and there's like this figure behind a bush
<v Speaker 3>shaking it like and that's so weird. That's such a remote, steep,
<v Speaker 3>difficult place to get to.
<v Speaker 2>What is that? My buddy's like, is that bigfoot? I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that is, but I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>We just watched it for a while.
<v Speaker 3>We video it, but it's not very good video, and
<v Speaker 3>we're like, whatever, man, we're getting good gold, getting nuggets.
<v Speaker 3>So we just kept digging, and we pretty much forgot
<v Speaker 3>about that experience. And then a couple months after that,
<v Speaker 3>my friend calls me. He had gone into the canyon
<v Speaker 3>is with our friend Sam, and he said, they're going
<v Speaker 3>out at the end of the day and the sun
<v Speaker 3>was setting, and this giant thing walked in front of them,
<v Speaker 3>and this path that they were on was like super
<v Speaker 3>steep cliff on the left hand side, like impossibly deep,
<v Speaker 3>like no person would dare go down this, like you
<v Speaker 3>would just fall to your death, it's so steep. And
<v Speaker 3>then on the right hand side, it's steep but full
<v Speaker 3>of manzanita, like so full, six feet plus tall, so thick,
<v Speaker 3>like we've tried to go through that thing just to
<v Speaker 3>see if.
<v Speaker 2>It's possible, and it's not possible.
<v Speaker 3>And so this figure appeared off the impossibly steep left
<v Speaker 3>side to the left, crossed the road in about a step,
<v Speaker 3>and then went up into the manzanita and disappeared in
<v Speaker 3>another step. It was so fast it traversed like I
<v Speaker 3>don't know, it probably crossed like twenty feet in just
<v Speaker 3>a couple of steps. And this thing, you know, your
<v Speaker 3>typical bigfoot descriptions, nine feet tall, hairy, you know, like
<v Speaker 3>dark brown to like reddish color, and they didn't want
<v Speaker 3>to say it was bigfoot, but we all knew what
<v Speaker 3>they saw. They didn't need to say, oh, you're right
<v Speaker 3>or anything. But they were terrified because they had to
<v Speaker 3>walk past where this thing disappeared in the brush. They
<v Speaker 3>had an encounter shortly after we had one, and then
<v Speaker 3>things kind of you know, actually shortly after that. Gosh,
<v Speaker 3>so much was happening on the American River at this time,
<v Speaker 3>and I think it's continuing to happen. People just don't
<v Speaker 3>talk about it. These other prospectors I was talking to,
<v Speaker 3>one of them was thoroughly working the American River near
<v Speaker 3>where I was going, and he showed me a ten
<v Speaker 3>gramd nugget he got. I go, wow, that's such a
<v Speaker 3>nice nugget. You're gonna get some more. And he goes,
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going back to the location. I'll even tell
<v Speaker 3>you where it is because I'm not going there. I go,
<v Speaker 3>why not? He goes, because bigfoot scared is out of there,
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, what are you talking about? And he
<v Speaker 3>says that he and his buddy just after they found
<v Speaker 3>the ten gram nugget. Of all times, this thing something
<v Speaker 3>on the hillside starts screaming and throwing trees down at them,
<v Speaker 3>and they get so scared they get out of there.
<v Speaker 3>And I mean prospectors don't like to leave their gold
<v Speaker 3>unless they're scared out by a bigfoot. I mean, we've
<v Speaker 3>been scared out by black bear. There's mountain lions, but
<v Speaker 3>that didn't keep us away. But I'm about to tell
<v Speaker 3>you my most intense story and how I was on
<v Speaker 3>the best goal of my life, but then I was
<v Speaker 3>chased out by bikfoot.
<v Speaker 2>So this was the.
<v Speaker 3>Summer of twenty twenty, right before I went on the
<v Speaker 3>reality show Frozen Gold. And I was with my then
<v Speaker 3>girlfriend now wife, and she's from another country, she's not
<v Speaker 3>aware of the big foot phenomenon. And we are going
<v Speaker 3>to an area I had been one time before, and
<v Speaker 3>I found a hidden cave and inside this cave there
<v Speaker 3>was hidden layers of material and it was so spectacularly
<v Speaker 3>rich I couldn't believe it. But I needed a unique
<v Speaker 3>piece of equipment to mine this material. It took me
<v Speaker 3>almost a year to get the equipment made totally customed
<v Speaker 3>for this location.
<v Speaker 2>So I've got the equipment. I've waited a year to
<v Speaker 2>come back here, really excited to mine it. And I
<v Speaker 2>go back there.
<v Speaker 3>I'm there with my girlfriend and I before we start
<v Speaker 3>mining and hiking this heavy equipment down and up mountains
<v Speaker 3>and getting in in caves, and it's a huge.
<v Speaker 2>Pain in the butt.
<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to make sure I could recreate the
<v Speaker 3>results that I had found before and pan out the samples.
<v Speaker 3>So I thought, okay, let's go find the cave are
<v Speaker 3>defined by the way is hidden really well, like I've
<v Speaker 3>passed it multiple times and not found it because it's
<v Speaker 3>like a narrow opening on a cliff covered by trees
<v Speaker 3>and brush. It's so thick it's hard to see. And
<v Speaker 3>then you open up the brush and wailla, here's this
<v Speaker 3>hidden cave. And so we go in there. We go
<v Speaker 3>deep in the cave. It goes back I don't know
<v Speaker 3>at least one thousand feet. I only went in a
<v Speaker 3>couple hundred feet. I couldn't go back much further it
<v Speaker 3>got little hairy. But go back a couple hundred feet,
<v Speaker 3>I'm digging around, digging around. Boom, I find this rich
<v Speaker 3>clay layer, explosive, insane of color in there, just as
<v Speaker 3>good as I remember. And I'd spent fifteen years almost
<v Speaker 3>looking for this gold. So I knew what good gold was.
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't like on some amateur fifteen colors. This is like,
<v Speaker 3>you know, fifty thousand pieces of gold in one handful
<v Speaker 3>of clay. Like this was spectacular. So it's like, all right,
<v Speaker 3>it's game on, Game on. I'm so excited. Let's get
<v Speaker 3>out of here. I'm gonna get the equipment. We're gonna
<v Speaker 3>mine all day today. We're gonna come back tomorrow, like
<v Speaker 3>we're going to camp in the area. We're gonna mine tomorrow.
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, it's so excited. I'm about to get rich.
<v Speaker 3>This is I've been waiting so many years for this.
<v Speaker 3>And so we leave the cave and where we have
<v Speaker 3>to hike out of the cave above a ridge line.
<v Speaker 3>And as we're getting towards the crest of the ridge
<v Speaker 3>line above the area we were, just as we're hitting
<v Speaker 3>the crest, we hear something scream at us and it
<v Speaker 3>was like a roar and a screen at the same time.
<v Speaker 3>But the moment I heard it, I knew multiple things.
<v Speaker 3>One like, this is what it sounded like, but it's
<v Speaker 3>super loud and super deep. I had been in the
<v Speaker 3>uh Rio Portuguero. This the Turtle River in the in
<v Speaker 3>the Costa Rican rainforest. So I had heard these howler
<v Speaker 3>monkeys at night. It sounded exactly like a howder monkey,
<v Speaker 3>but super loud and super deep. Is so strange because
<v Speaker 3>I'd never heard of a recording of Bigfoot or heard
<v Speaker 3>you didn't even really get a lot of encounters that
<v Speaker 3>I'd read about a bigfoot vocalizing, and if they did,
<v Speaker 3>usually it would be similar kind of sounds. But you know,
<v Speaker 3>this was so strange because the moment I heard it,
<v Speaker 3>me and my girlfriend look at each other with our
<v Speaker 3>wide eyes, and I just my heart sinks because it
<v Speaker 3>sounded so apelong, so loud, it sounded aggressive. It was
<v Speaker 3>obviously not a bear, mountaline or a person or a dog,
<v Speaker 3>and I just go, oh no, like just I felt
<v Speaker 3>like I might not be gold mining today, like like
<v Speaker 3>I was here for gold and all of a sudden,
<v Speaker 3>this is a big foot trip and it's not far
<v Speaker 3>from sunset. The sun's probably gonna be setting in half
<v Speaker 3>an hour, and I need to make decisions quickly.
<v Speaker 2>So a lot's going through my head.
<v Speaker 3>I hear this sound and I'm like, okay. My girlfriend goes,
<v Speaker 3>that was creepy, and we're just walking slowly listening and
<v Speaker 3>then we hear it again, We're like, okay, that was
<v Speaker 3>just as creepy as the first time. And then nothing,
<v Speaker 3>oh it was it was nothing, and then we hear
<v Speaker 3>it again. Okay, let's walk back to the car. So
<v Speaker 3>we walk back to the car and we don't hear
<v Speaker 3>anything for a little while, and I just try to
<v Speaker 3>convince myself here was something else. I just eventually, after
<v Speaker 3>a couple of minutes, I convinced myself that it was dogs.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it was a dog.
<v Speaker 3>Like we saw some guys on ATVs a couple miles back.
<v Speaker 3>They probably had dogs, and like it was totally them,
<v Speaker 3>Like they had like some speaker in there playing some
<v Speaker 3>sound or something like. I was trying to convince myself
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't this very ape like guttural, terrifying sound. It
<v Speaker 3>also sounded like a howler monkey and very menacing and
<v Speaker 3>directed right at us. So I'm like, okay, why don't
<v Speaker 3>we eat some food and think about it. So I
<v Speaker 3>get out of sandwich. I start eating my sandwich, and
<v Speaker 3>I've convinced myself as a dog. So I start There's
<v Speaker 3>this like stump next to me. I stand on this stump,
<v Speaker 3>and I'm stand on the stump, and I'm aiming my
<v Speaker 3>face towards this canyon where there's converging creeks where we
<v Speaker 3>heard one sound from one creek in front of us,
<v Speaker 3>and to our left is another creek. The first creek
<v Speaker 3>in front of us is maybe uh, six hundred feet
<v Speaker 3>in front of us, and the once to our left
<v Speaker 3>is maybe two hundred feet down below. And so I
<v Speaker 3>start singing the song from the radio, and immediately my
<v Speaker 3>voice starts echoing through the canyon super loud, and I'm
<v Speaker 3>just like, you can just hear.
<v Speaker 2>My voice echoing so loud. I couldn't believe it.
<v Speaker 3>And just as my voice starts to echo, a huge
<v Speaker 3>uproar of that individual and more it was or in.
<v Speaker 2>Front of us, Oh my gosh. And then to our left,
<v Speaker 2>and then the one to the right again it's like,
<v Speaker 2>oh my.
<v Speaker 3>Gosh, there are two of them, and it's just like
<v Speaker 3>they started going ballistic.
<v Speaker 2>Now they're roaring every couple of seconds.
<v Speaker 3>And then the one to the left is like it
<v Speaker 3>feels like it's just moved two hundred feet in a
<v Speaker 3>few seconds, and now it feels like it's almost right
<v Speaker 3>next to us, and the one in front of us
<v Speaker 3>is getting closer it's closing into the trees near us,
<v Speaker 3>and then we hear a third it's behind us, and
<v Speaker 3>it's just like, because we have it's kind of circuling
<v Speaker 3>us like a semi circle.
<v Speaker 2>The only place we don't have a creek is to
<v Speaker 2>our right.
<v Speaker 3>Whereas a road that we get in and get out of,
<v Speaker 3>and that was the only place we weren't hearing anything.
<v Speaker 2>So we hear.
<v Speaker 3>It's just like they're closing in. It's getting louder and louder,
<v Speaker 3>and it's just like, oh my gosh, I'm so scared.
<v Speaker 3>I'm terrified. I realize, oh my gosh, there's no way
<v Speaker 3>I'm mining.
<v Speaker 2>There's no way we're sleeping here.
<v Speaker 3>I'm not set up to get bigfoot audio recordings, bigfoot tracks.
<v Speaker 3>I just have this like I think I just had
<v Speaker 3>a phone that was in a case at the time
<v Speaker 3>I was recording. But the audio is so bad because
<v Speaker 3>the case it just muffles everything so much. I don't
<v Speaker 3>even know if you can hardly hear those screams at all.
<v Speaker 2>Also have not.
<v Speaker 3>Edited or reviewed this footage, and I think I'm finally
<v Speaker 3>ready to do that after sharing this story with you.
<v Speaker 3>But I don't expect a lot, but so we hear
<v Speaker 3>the roars. It's getting closer. They're closing in, closing in,
<v Speaker 3>and my girlfriend is so scared because she's just like,
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what this is. Something's going on, something's
<v Speaker 3>going on, and I'm just my head is just turning
<v Speaker 3>and turning and turning, and I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna
<v Speaker 3>cut this one off down at the creek below it
<v Speaker 3>because I can hear it moving when it's screaming it's
<v Speaker 3>I can hear that it's moving one direction behind us,
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, Okay, if I run down this little trail,
<v Speaker 3>I think I can surprise it and cut it off.
<v Speaker 2>Because I'm a really fast, quiet runner. I can run
<v Speaker 2>like rolling my feet while I run.
<v Speaker 3>I think I would be able to catch it off
<v Speaker 3>guard and get a video of it. So I have
<v Speaker 3>my video rolling and I start running down this hill
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, I'm gonna cut it off.
<v Speaker 2>I tell my.
<v Speaker 3>Girlfriend just peep up with me, like you got to
<v Speaker 3>stay behind me, keep up with me, like, don't fall behind.
<v Speaker 3>And I start running down this hill and I'm like,
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna catch this thing off, catch this thing off.
<v Speaker 3>And then I'm like I just stop and I'm like,
<v Speaker 3>oh my god, where's my girlfriend.
<v Speaker 2>I turn around.
<v Speaker 3>She's not there, and I run up the hill and
<v Speaker 3>she's covered in sweat and dirt and she's so scared.
<v Speaker 3>She's not a runner, she's not used to the woods,
<v Speaker 3>not used to running in the woods, chased by Bigfoot,
<v Speaker 3>and she's just I just realized, like she's.
<v Speaker 2>Not keeping up. I'm not going to get this thing.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm not going to catch it off guard,
<v Speaker 3>like unless I separate myself so far from my girlfriend
<v Speaker 3>that it puts her at risk. Like I had been
<v Speaker 3>obsessing of her Bigfoot for some time in the off season,
<v Speaker 3>and I remember reading about the the Ural Mountain incident
<v Speaker 3>at the Diatla Pass with the Russians, and these kids
<v Speaker 3>were murdered by bigfoot. It's the most logical conclusion. The
<v Speaker 3>locals warned them not to go there. They had been
<v Speaker 3>abducted and killed by bigfoot, and they set that aside,
<v Speaker 3>that area aside for the bigfoot. The kids went looking
<v Speaker 3>for bigfoot, knowing it was there. They had a photo
<v Speaker 3>of a bigfoot was their last photo, and the big
<v Speaker 3>warned them. Everything was warning them to leave, and they continued.
<v Speaker 3>And that's what I had in my head. I'll be
<v Speaker 3>getting my tongue ripped out, our chests are gonna get
<v Speaker 3>pounded in, We're gonna get abducted.
<v Speaker 2>God knows what can happen to my girlfriends.
<v Speaker 3>Like when bok Foot tells you to leave, you leave,
<v Speaker 3>or else you end up like the diatlav past kids.
<v Speaker 3>Three of them were bludgeoned to death with no instruments.
<v Speaker 3>The only thing you could say it was like a
<v Speaker 3>large fist, but no instruments, no indentations, no marks, tongue
<v Speaker 3>ripped out. Who how do you even do that rip
<v Speaker 3>out a tongue? Well, Bigfoot, It's a very ape like
<v Speaker 3>thing to do. So three of them murdered by Bigfoot.
<v Speaker 2>Dead.
<v Speaker 3>The three died of exposure cutting themselves out of their tents.
<v Speaker 3>For those of you who aren't aware of this, read
<v Speaker 3>about it immediately. So in my head, I'm having these
<v Speaker 3>flashbacks thinking about all these historic situations with Native Americans,
<v Speaker 3>and the kids in the Ural Mountains were murdered.
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, gosh, we have to leave.
<v Speaker 3>Like I've literally we had read hundreds of reports and
<v Speaker 3>it's super rare to have them be this aggressive. And
<v Speaker 3>if they are that aggressive, they're serious. There's a reason
<v Speaker 3>they want you out. So I'm like, we have to
<v Speaker 3>get out of here. And now they're screaming. They're surrounding us,
<v Speaker 3>and I hear stuff cracking not far behind the car.
<v Speaker 3>It's like they're closing in. They could be just feet
<v Speaker 3>away from us. So the car is all ready for
<v Speaker 3>gold mining. And I've been waiting for this for years.
<v Speaker 2>We gotta go. We get in the car.
<v Speaker 3>And I just just backing up, hitting rocks, jacking up
<v Speaker 3>the car, just fishtail out of there.
<v Speaker 2>You know.
<v Speaker 3>The sun is setting and it's just like, oh gosh,
<v Speaker 3>we are going to die if we stay here. We
<v Speaker 3>have to get out of here. And so it was
<v Speaker 3>super hard getting here. The road was very overgrown, super remote.
<v Speaker 3>We're talking. This was in remote Sierra County, California. This
<v Speaker 3>is the most remote place I've ever been in California
<v Speaker 3>outside of like Happy Camp in the Hills and Happie Camp.
<v Speaker 3>Happy Camp is a major city compared to where we were.
<v Speaker 3>There's nothing around. We were like an hour and a
<v Speaker 3>half some from San Juan. It's like this little, tiny
<v Speaker 3>little place is not even a town, you know, but
<v Speaker 3>we're super far from even that. It's just forced in
<v Speaker 3>all directions so we're trying to get out of here
<v Speaker 3>spotty satellite signal. I feel like I have a feel
<v Speaker 3>on how to get out. We drive for one full
<v Speaker 3>hour even more and taking putt turns roads and just
<v Speaker 3>overgrown branches, hitting the car potholes is just so wild
<v Speaker 3>and you wouldn't believe it.
<v Speaker 2>After one hour of driving, we stop and we'll okay,
<v Speaker 2>we're already and we looked to.
<v Speaker 3>Our right and we're exactly where we were one hour ago,
<v Speaker 3>right outside where the screams were, right outside of this
<v Speaker 3>little open area where they surrounded us.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, this is like some crazy nightmare. It's
<v Speaker 2>like some time loop, Like did we just go through
<v Speaker 2>a freaking portal? Is this like some sick, twisted, like
<v Speaker 2>paranormal joke, Like how did this happen? Like I don't
<v Speaker 2>even know how it was possible that we wound up
<v Speaker 2>at the same place considering the way I was driving.
<v Speaker 2>I just drove for an hour, taking different roads, and
<v Speaker 2>we're exactly where we left. It was terrifying because we
<v Speaker 2>knew that they were a big foot nearby. They didn't
<v Speaker 2>want us there, and they could.
<v Speaker 3>Jump in front of the car, push the car over,
<v Speaker 3>grab her, pull her out of the car, destroy the car,
<v Speaker 3>you know, make us a mobile, Like we're in.
<v Speaker 2>A bad situation. This was very scary. So again I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, so I drive drive drive drive.
<v Speaker 3>I just I just throw the phone away and I
<v Speaker 3>just start taking random turns, random turns. After a couple hours,
<v Speaker 3>we get to some rough old road that I recognize,
<v Speaker 3>and eventually we find our way back to a main road,
<v Speaker 3>to a main road to getting more connecting roads, and
<v Speaker 3>we get out of there, and it was like, oh
<v Speaker 3>my gosh, like that was just that was too much.
<v Speaker 2>That was too much. They didn't want us there.
<v Speaker 3>And it turns out this guy who was a friend
<v Speaker 3>of mine, he was buying and selling claims. He sent
<v Speaker 3>some people to the same area. We had met him
<v Speaker 3>over lunch talking about different claim options, and he brought
<v Speaker 3>it up. We didn't tell anybody about our encounter because
<v Speaker 3>nobody wanted to listen. And so this guy starts telling us, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I sent these guys down in this creek and they
<v Speaker 3>had to escape, he tells us. He says, they told
<v Speaker 3>me a bigfoot chased him out, like he was laughing
<v Speaker 3>about it.
<v Speaker 2>And me and my wife, who were married or she's
<v Speaker 2>my wife.
<v Speaker 3>Now look at each other and we just like have
<v Speaker 3>that surprise to look like, oh my gosh, it's the.
<v Speaker 2>Same place we were.
<v Speaker 3>And actually that place had a history of Bigfoot encounters
<v Speaker 3>from the eighteen hundreds as well, So eighteen hundreds encounters
<v Speaker 3>by encounter. And then right after we left, within a
<v Speaker 3>couple of months, there was yet another encounter in the
<v Speaker 3>exact same area. And you wonder why the gold is good, Well,
<v Speaker 3>that's why, because Bigfoot chases you out. So I, you know,
<v Speaker 3>went to Greenland reality show, came back. My life hit
<v Speaker 3>all sorts of snags and turns and had to kind
<v Speaker 3>of rediscover myself. And while I was out here in Nevada,
<v Speaker 3>I moved to Nevada from California. I moved to a
<v Speaker 3>small town east of Carson City, and we're about seven
<v Speaker 3>biles from the eastern edges of Lake Tahoe. Now I
<v Speaker 3>started to I had talked to a few people about Bigfoot.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I think I had a bartender friend. I
<v Speaker 2>talked to him about it, and he talked to everybody.
<v Speaker 3>So he told me an encounter of somebody, a friend
<v Speaker 3>of his who wouldn't tell details because he the one
<v Speaker 3>thing you'll find with these big foot is that people
<v Speaker 3>who know they're real want to protect him because they
<v Speaker 3>just they revere them, they respect them, and they seem
<v Speaker 3>to be able to protect themselves. But it seems like
<v Speaker 3>the government likes to kill them. And people get word
<v Speaker 3>of this. People hear about this, and so they go,
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to tell you the exact location. So
<v Speaker 3>this guy, he was Somemmer. I think he was summer
<v Speaker 3>around Immigrant Gap. Pretty remote area out there, a lot
<v Speaker 3>of peaks, a lot of mountains, not a lot of people,
<v Speaker 3>very very remote out there, and this guy was hiking
<v Speaker 3>towards the top of a mountain and he came across
<v Speaker 3>across a cave and I believe he saw a bigfoot
<v Speaker 3>enter or leave the cave.
<v Speaker 2>It's carried the crap out of him.
<v Speaker 3>And a few reports like this, But this guy, he
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't give a lot of details. I tried to speak
<v Speaker 3>to him directly, but he was very wishy washy, and
<v Speaker 3>I think that kind of points.
<v Speaker 2>Further to the validity of his experience. And then I
<v Speaker 2>met this girl a couple of years after that, and
<v Speaker 2>this was probably just about a year and a half.
<v Speaker 3>Two years ago. I was at the local grocery island.
<v Speaker 3>She worked there, And I'm surrounded by mountains, very big,
<v Speaker 3>rugged mountains that you can't even take a jeep up
<v Speaker 3>some of these mountains because it's that rugged. And this
<v Speaker 3>girl was telling me she was with her friends partying.
<v Speaker 3>I think she was probably about sixteen or so. She's
<v Speaker 3>pretty young, not including the big Foot or anything. She's
<v Speaker 3>just having a good time with her friends. She was
<v Speaker 3>outside of a cemetery, a local cemetery, And I've been
<v Speaker 3>trying to piece this together because I'm ready to go
<v Speaker 3>investigate this situation. But there's only one cemetery in town.
<v Speaker 3>And what she told me was that she's at the
<v Speaker 3>cemetery with her friends, is dark, and something chased them.
<v Speaker 2>Out of the area.
<v Speaker 3>And I started to ask questions because I was thinking, oh,
<v Speaker 3>maybe it was a person, a ghost, a shadow figure,
<v Speaker 3>you know, there's a lot of mysterious stuff that it
<v Speaker 3>could have been, and ask her questions. Was it tall, yes,
<v Speaker 3>very tall, like it was seven feet nine feet? Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>like nine feet okay, that's interesting, Okay. Was it very wide?
<v Speaker 2>Very wide? Okay?
<v Speaker 3>When it chased after you, did you hear it? Did
<v Speaker 3>you feel it? Did you hear the footfall like boom boom, boom,
<v Speaker 3>Like could you feel the power of the stops the heaviness,
<v Speaker 3>And she says yes, ding ding. That to me was
<v Speaker 3>what separated it from something paranormal, to this flesh and blood.
<v Speaker 3>Whether you want to believe it's alien or not, it's
<v Speaker 3>certain states it is flesh and blood. It can step
<v Speaker 3>and make these sounds on the ground. And to me
<v Speaker 3>that was screaming bigfoot. It's just nine feet tall, chase
<v Speaker 3>you out. It's nighttime and you can bipedal. You can
<v Speaker 3>hear the bipedal sounds and it's super loud and heavy,
<v Speaker 3>and I'm just like, wow, that is so crazy, because
<v Speaker 3>like we're in the desert here, and you know, you
<v Speaker 3>have the Red Giants of Lovelock. There's a whole war
<v Speaker 3>between the natives and the Red Giants of Lovelock. And
<v Speaker 3>there's even a recent sighting as early as two thousand
<v Speaker 3>and five outside the Lovelock Cave where they burned them out.
<v Speaker 3>And I actually have a friend who believes that he
<v Speaker 3>might have seen one two in the same area. And
<v Speaker 3>so yeah, I mean you have artifacts from that. They
<v Speaker 3>have fossils that they were on display at the Lovelock museum.
<v Speaker 3>They were taken out for some reason and hidden or
<v Speaker 3>stored away for some reason. So there is a history
<v Speaker 3>of bigfoot in not just Nevada, but all throughout the
<v Speaker 3>desert of the US. That's something to keep in mind here.
<v Speaker 3>And so this girl, I believe did encounter a bigfoot
<v Speaker 3>here locally. And upon doing research, I find that we
<v Speaker 3>have natural caves from gypsum, We have talas caves, and
<v Speaker 3>then we also have man made caves like mine shafts
<v Speaker 3>and at its, and they're very extensive. Some of them
<v Speaker 3>go back hundreds of years ago, all through these mountains.
<v Speaker 3>But there's two mountain ranges in particular, one to the south,
<v Speaker 3>one to the north where I believe this thing came from.
<v Speaker 3>And it's crazy because it's so close to Reno. It's
<v Speaker 3>so close, just outside the cities, but still so remote.
<v Speaker 3>And I believe where I used to live in Marin County,
<v Speaker 3>you know, and even in Padoluma County, California. This place
<v Speaker 3>is like, I don't know, it's just got to be
<v Speaker 3>over fifty eighty thousand people that live in Petaluma in
<v Speaker 3>metropolitan area and the outskirts there's these farm fields they
<v Speaker 3>connect to forests and you know they connect to forest,
<v Speaker 3>connect to forests like a highway throughout the US and Canada.
<v Speaker 3>But it sounds crazy when you say this guy saw
<v Speaker 3>a big foot in Pedaloma. But I know a guy
<v Speaker 3>he saw bigfoot Pedaluma and he was on the outskirts.
<v Speaker 3>When you look at where he was, his farmland is
<v Speaker 3>adjacent to some mountains in a forest where it connects
<v Speaker 3>to highways that go to Oregon, Washington, Canada. And so
<v Speaker 3>when you look at the map, it makes sense when
<v Speaker 3>you tell people it doesn't. But if you look at
<v Speaker 3>bfro Cloverdale, Petaluma, Sonoma County, Marine County, there are historical
<v Speaker 3>reports going back from the seventies sheriff deputy see one
<v Speaker 3>people having multiple encounters. Bigfoot is in very popular places,
<v Speaker 3>Like they are so close to us and we have
<v Speaker 3>no idea. They're all over the place. I have so
<v Speaker 3>many people who have encountered them, like even my dad.
<v Speaker 3>I remember telling my dad about my big foot encounters
<v Speaker 3>and he shrugged it off, and I going, you know what, Dad,
<v Speaker 3>I bet you've had an encounter and you.
<v Speaker 2>Didn't even know it. And he goes, oh, that's crazy.
<v Speaker 3>I'm like I started saying, you might have heard a whistle,
<v Speaker 3>smelt something weird, maybe you heard something scream at you.
<v Speaker 3>And he goes, he did have one thing happen. I
<v Speaker 3>played him the sound of this bigfoot screaming from the
<v Speaker 3>BFRO database and it's what footage is that it's a
<v Speaker 3>famous one is you know, it's a really famous recording.
<v Speaker 3>And my dad tells me to turn it off, and
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't get emotional. He starts to get teary eyed,
<v Speaker 3>and he tells me a story that he's only told
<v Speaker 3>me once, and a story from when he was five
<v Speaker 3>years old. This is the only story I've ever heard
<v Speaker 3>from my dad that young, but he remembered it. It
<v Speaker 3>just goes to show you how emotionally powerful and significant
<v Speaker 3>this encounter was. He was in the deep woods with
<v Speaker 3>his father. They were adventures like me, and they're in
<v Speaker 3>the deep woods hunting, I think, and it was just
<v Speaker 3>the two of them in a tent. His father was asleep,
<v Speaker 3>snoring really loudly, and I think they're in like Idaho.
<v Speaker 3>I think they're in Idaho and late at night, and
<v Speaker 3>as his dad is snoring, he hears this thing scream
<v Speaker 3>at them from what sounds like just you know, twenty
<v Speaker 3>thirty feet away, and he.
<v Speaker 2>Says, it's just so loud, just reverberate your body. And
<v Speaker 2>he said it sounded exactly like that recording, loud, sustained,
<v Speaker 2>guttural lion elephant roar, high decibels. We're talking, you know,
<v Speaker 2>from thirty fifty feet away. This thing is like one
<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty decibels. Like, this thing is loud and powerful.
<v Speaker 2>Nothing this loud and powerful on the Planet's like a dinosaur.
<v Speaker 2>You know.
<v Speaker 3>It's like what I heard, but different because he heard
<v Speaker 3>was more sustained. And so I believe my dad heard
<v Speaker 3>a big foot, and I believe his friend had a
<v Speaker 3>big foot encounter too. His friend also avid hunter. He
<v Speaker 3>was I think in Idaho as well, and he was
<v Speaker 3>doing l hunting and he heard the scariest noise of
<v Speaker 3>his life. He said, it sounded like a woman getting
<v Speaker 3>stabbed to death. And it's funny because when you hear
<v Speaker 3>about female big foot like this shrill scream, you hear
<v Speaker 3>him all say the same thing. They all describe it
<v Speaker 3>as it sounds like a woman getting stabbed to death.
<v Speaker 2>It's like, but it's.
<v Speaker 3>Super loud and shrillly and just terrifying, and it doesn't
<v Speaker 3>sound like a woman because it's too loud. It kind
<v Speaker 3>of has this like animal edge to it. I haven't
<v Speaker 3>I have heard recordings. I've never heard it in person.
<v Speaker 3>You know, owls. I think barn owls sound very similar
<v Speaker 3>to that screen chanl very different, but the I think
<v Speaker 3>it's the barn owl Gary scream different than that though,
<v Speaker 3>because this is very very loud. So I believe my friend,
<v Speaker 3>my friend's dad Jim, heard one as well, and he
<v Speaker 3>didn't even know it. Now here's the crazy story of
<v Speaker 3>them all, and this is really the last of the
<v Speaker 3>unreported encounters I'll be sharing with you. We have a
<v Speaker 3>family friend is a very well respected person in the community.
<v Speaker 3>The doctor had a wife of decades and they're happily married, wealthy,
<v Speaker 3>doing well. You know, life's fine. And his wife was
<v Speaker 3>an avid outdoors woman and she carried a three fifty
<v Speaker 3>seven on her side, very well capable in the woods.
<v Speaker 3>And she was in Montana, you know, bear smart, lion smart.
<v Speaker 3>And she was with her brother at the time. And
<v Speaker 3>she was with her brother and he says, I think,
<v Speaker 3>how did it go? They got separated for just a
<v Speaker 3>few seconds. He goes up ahead of her. I think,
<v Speaker 3>she says, like I'm gonna I don't know if she's
<v Speaker 3>gonna pee or something. But he goes ahead and they're
<v Speaker 3>separated for less than a minute, and he comes back
<v Speaker 3>because he doesn't hear her, and she's gone. There's no gunshot,
<v Speaker 3>no screaming, no clothes, no blood, nothing, she just disappeared.
<v Speaker 3>They did search and rescue and could not find They
<v Speaker 3>search those woods so deeply. Now, if it was a
<v Speaker 3>bear or a mountain lion, she would scream, she would
<v Speaker 3>pull out her gun. But if she didn't scream and
<v Speaker 3>didn't pull out her gun, she would definitely scream. But
<v Speaker 3>let's say somehow she couldn't scream, she couldn't get her gun.
<v Speaker 3>This seem's gonna claw her, put their teeth in her.
<v Speaker 3>She's gonna bleed. She's going to show evidence. You'll see
<v Speaker 3>drag marks. Well, i'll tell you what it is capable
<v Speaker 3>of doing. This is a bigfoot. And when you look
<v Speaker 3>at the historical incidences of Native Americans getting abducted by
<v Speaker 3>bigfoot all across the US, and not just Native Americans,
<v Speaker 3>but people talking about like the grassman in the Midwest, like, oh,
<v Speaker 3>don't go out at night, the grassmen will get you.
<v Speaker 3>All this stuff is rooted in truth because Bigfoot notoriously
<v Speaker 3>abducts people, not just people, but they target women, and
<v Speaker 3>there's been incidences of bigfoot raping women Native American women,
<v Speaker 3>one of which doctor Jeff melder mountlines in his story Sasquatch,
<v Speaker 3>and he talks about how this Native American woman actually
<v Speaker 3>gave stillbirth to a bigfoot human hybrid and she explained
<v Speaker 3>that one of these things abducted her and raped her.
<v Speaker 3>And this happened to multiple Native American women and not
<v Speaker 3>just Native American women, but there are some stories about
<v Speaker 3>this from the eighteen hundreds as well, women having male
<v Speaker 3>bigfoot abduct them and do sexual things with them to them.
<v Speaker 3>Jeff Meldrim also talks about the high preponderance of epes
<v Speaker 3>on women as well, like they love human women, like
<v Speaker 3>even Julia Roberts on the set of one of her
<v Speaker 3>movies was assaulted by I think as an orangutan and
<v Speaker 3>they had to pry it off of her. And another
<v Speaker 3>zoo keeper has been raped by a rang atam. You know,
<v Speaker 3>these are docile creatures normally, but raping women and so
<v Speaker 3>this is something that apes are known to do. A
<v Speaker 3>bigfoot is smart enough to know that it can grab
<v Speaker 3>your mouth on one hand and the other hand wraps
<v Speaker 3>around your body and you can't do anything. It's the
<v Speaker 3>only thing they can get far enough away from search
<v Speaker 3>and rescue, the only thing that won't wait. You drag
<v Speaker 3>your feet, shoot your gun, scream. It's the only thing.
<v Speaker 2>People might say, Oh, well, what about aliens? Well come on,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, it's like bigfoot is actually more plausible.
<v Speaker 2>And I'd love someone to come up with a theory
<v Speaker 2>as to why this woman disappeared. The doctor and the
<v Speaker 2>authorities nobody went to bigfoot, but there's a lot of
<v Speaker 2>bigfoot reports in that area of Montana. It was thickly
<v Speaker 2>forested on the sides of the trail, so whatever it
<v Speaker 2>was was just there following them, I believe.
<v Speaker 3>And I believe once the brother stepped away, the bigfoot
<v Speaker 3>stepped out, grabbed her mouth, grabbed her body, and took
<v Speaker 3>her off deep into the woods where no one would
<v Speaker 3>find her. And I believe her story is more common
<v Speaker 3>than we realize. If you look at all the people
<v Speaker 3>who disappear in the woods and then you cross reference
<v Speaker 3>to those areas with bigfoot reports, you'll find a strong crossover.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, a lot of these people might get themselves
<v Speaker 3>killed and lost dive of exposures. That could be the majority,
<v Speaker 3>but there's certainly a percentage of people in the woods
<v Speaker 3>who are abducted by Bigfoot. I mean, look at Albert Austman,
<v Speaker 3>the greatest Bigfoot abduction story of all time. It's the
<v Speaker 3>most most amount of details and evidence. So that story
<v Speaker 3>I just told you about this woman in Montana getting abducted,
<v Speaker 3>no one has told it like this. The press has
<v Speaker 3>it a woman disappeared. They don't have it. A woman disappeared,
<v Speaker 3>all these strange details that don't add up. But all
<v Speaker 3>that stuff points to your suspect. It's Bigfoot. Bigfoot grounded her,
<v Speaker 3>Bigfoot stole her.
<v Speaker 2>And you know what.
<v Speaker 3>The moral of the story is, Bigfoot is real. If
<v Speaker 3>you don't realize that, go do your research. It's one
<v Speaker 3>hundred percent real. It can be proven by the layers
<v Speaker 3>of evidence which exist in numerous forms and formats. And
<v Speaker 3>you need to know that they're there because they're all
<v Speaker 3>over the place. You wouldn't realize they are California, Oregon, Nevada,
<v Speaker 3>They're in almost every fifty state.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you wouldn't really expect them.
<v Speaker 3>To be in Nevada, but they are, and I think
<v Speaker 3>they're in Arizona, they're in Utah, all sorts of desert places.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if people can live out there, I'm pretty
<v Speaker 3>sure a bigfoot can too. So we need to be
<v Speaker 3>aware of them, aware that they exist, that they're out here,
<v Speaker 3>and that although they are mostly benevolent and mostly peaceful,
<v Speaker 3>men are at higher risk of getting abducted. Men can
<v Speaker 3>get abducted as well, just because it's like show and tell,
<v Speaker 3>like Albert Osman like, hey, look what I found.
<v Speaker 2>It's just cool.
<v Speaker 3>Imagine showing a bigfoot off to your friends or an
<v Speaker 3>alien like that'd be so cool, right, the same thing
<v Speaker 3>for them. For them, the woods is boring. It's the
<v Speaker 3>same all the time. But hey, I got a human
<v Speaker 3>look at this. So you've got to keep an eye
<v Speaker 3>on your loved ones, on your kids when you're in
<v Speaker 3>bigfoot country. Don't lose them for a second, or else
<v Speaker 3>you'll be like that woman in Montana if there's thick
<v Speaker 3>vegetation around you, like, they can.
<v Speaker 2>Grab you so easily.
<v Speaker 3>So be aware Bigfoot's real, and you know, don't let
<v Speaker 3>your loved ones out of sight. So those are my
<v Speaker 3>encounters from me chasing gold in the woods, my friends,
<v Speaker 3>their encounters that not like this stuff has not really
<v Speaker 3>been shared with anyone. None of this is on BFRO databases.
<v Speaker 3>And the people I met when I went on my
<v Speaker 3>Bigfoot road trip and when I went to Happy Camp,
<v Speaker 3>the people people who were seeing Bigfoot, encountering them, even
<v Speaker 3>feeding them on their property, not hand.
<v Speaker 2>To the mouth, not hand to hand. You know, they
<v Speaker 2>don't get that close.
<v Speaker 3>But those people who are having those encounters all had
<v Speaker 3>the same thing in common. No one wanted to share
<v Speaker 3>their encounter. No one wanted to go on camera. They
<v Speaker 3>all wanted to protect the Bigfoot. They didn't want government
<v Speaker 3>blackhawk helicopters, they didn't want any of that. Granted, the
<v Speaker 3>government guaranteed has a live and a bigfoot already, they
<v Speaker 3>don't really need more. But you know, people don't want
<v Speaker 3>to share their encounters rightfully, so it's traumatic.
<v Speaker 2>People won't believe you. You're a crazy person.
<v Speaker 3>You have nothing to gain, and you also want to
<v Speaker 3>protect them because you love them, and it's like a
<v Speaker 3>cool secret little club.
<v Speaker 2>Like I know Bigfoot's real.
<v Speaker 3>I've had encounters, and I don't care what you think
<v Speaker 3>because I know they're real.
<v Speaker 1>All right, Eric, I appreciate you for sharing your experiences
<v Speaker 1>with me, and I thought it was really interesting to
<v Speaker 1>hear the when you went to the first place you
<v Speaker 1>told me about, you you saw these fresh trees that
<v Speaker 1>were snapped, and there was about six of them and
<v Speaker 1>they were all snapped in the same place. What do
<v Speaker 1>you think that means? And how did you perceive it
<v Speaker 1>at the time.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that was really what I would call my
<v Speaker 3>first I don't call that one hundred percent big foot,
<v Speaker 3>although in hindsight, I think it was. So I'm not
<v Speaker 3>an expert, but from what I've heard, the Native Americans
<v Speaker 3>used to do this with each other, and I've heard
<v Speaker 3>that bigfoot are known to do this as well, which
<v Speaker 3>is they snapped the tree in the direction that you're
<v Speaker 3>supposed to stay, and like the opposite side is where
<v Speaker 3>they go.
<v Speaker 2>It's like you go this way, I go this way.
<v Speaker 3>And actually, this is something I later encountered in Oregon
<v Speaker 3>I forgot about. We went on forest roads and we
<v Speaker 3>saw giant logs laid across the trail, just laid across
<v Speaker 3>the trail, like perfectly, Like this is so strange. You know,
<v Speaker 3>some of them are healthy, but this seems to be
<v Speaker 3>something that is common that they put do where they
<v Speaker 3>snapped trees, and I think it's like the direction the
<v Speaker 3>trees pointing is the way you're supposed to stay, and
<v Speaker 3>then the opposite way is their area. And it obviously
<v Speaker 3>also says don't go on this trail, like just don't
<v Speaker 3>go here.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, And up river you heard what sounded like
<v Speaker 1>a would not combine with a tree break and something else.
<v Speaker 1>You said it was like three sounds in one. What
<v Speaker 1>do you think the message was.
<v Speaker 3>I think the message was they are so good at
<v Speaker 3>doing things to just play with us. And if it
<v Speaker 3>had just broken the tree, that would be something that
<v Speaker 3>you would say, oh, maybe a fast tree break, but
<v Speaker 3>even then it was so fast. But then it was
<v Speaker 3>the whack whack crack that all that combined, and how
<v Speaker 3>quickly it happened, how loud and close it was, the
<v Speaker 3>timing of it all that it's just messing with us,
<v Speaker 3>just letting us know that it's there, and just I
<v Speaker 3>don't know, I think they're just kind of having fun
<v Speaker 3>with us, looking at us, like let's see if we
<v Speaker 3>can scare these people.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, that's what it sounds like to me as well.
<v Speaker 1>And when you were west of Cape Junction and Oregon
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned it was I believe it was your ex
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend's time of the month. Do you feel like this
<v Speaker 1>got these these creatures, these beans all riled up?
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? Do?
<v Speaker 3>I mean after me explaining the incidences historic incidences of
<v Speaker 3>humans getting assaulted sexually by apes orangutans, which is like
<v Speaker 3>the most docile, peaceful, great ape there is. And for
<v Speaker 3>you know, so they're known to have strong reactions to
<v Speaker 3>female pheromones, but not just them, female pheromones at bears
<v Speaker 3>and mountain lions, and this is a known thing, and
<v Speaker 3>so female p attracts them, male p deters them, and
<v Speaker 3>being on that time of the month, it's just it's
<v Speaker 3>like this universal it just gets them interested. I can't
<v Speaker 3>say exactly what it is the science behind it, but
<v Speaker 3>this is known science. So I do believe one hundred
<v Speaker 3>percent that being her time of the month could have
<v Speaker 3>just added yet another layers to it. Wanting to come to.
<v Speaker 1>Us, Yeah, absolutely, And it seemed like whatever it was
<v Speaker 1>was creeping towards you guys, And it's scary to think
<v Speaker 1>what the creature possibly wanted.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you could have just wanted to mess with us.
<v Speaker 3>It could have been a lot more aggressive. The fact
<v Speaker 3>that it made the noise and then stayed silent. Kind
<v Speaker 3>of to me, is just it's having fun. It's just
<v Speaker 3>messing with us. It's probably just watching from behind one
<v Speaker 3>of these trees seeing what we're going to do.
<v Speaker 2>If it really wanted us to leave, it.
<v Speaker 3>Would scream at us, maybe jump out of a tree
<v Speaker 3>or something. But you know, the thing is with Bigfoot,
<v Speaker 3>if you really want to go have an encounter, you
<v Speaker 3>can go have an encounter, but you got to be
<v Speaker 3>mentally prepared because the reality of being in the presence
<v Speaker 3>of this nine foot potentially one thousand pounds eight man
<v Speaker 3>with unknown abilities and motivation. You're super vulnerable. There's no
<v Speaker 3>gun that can save you from the situation. There's nothing
<v Speaker 3>that's going to save you. If it wants to abduct you,
<v Speaker 3>kill you, rip you to pieces, it can and the
<v Speaker 3>reality hits you really quickly.
<v Speaker 2>When you're in those situations. No.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you could feel the footstomps vibrating the ground
<v Speaker 1>after you guys got into the tent.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was laying on my back, which was really
<v Speaker 3>good because I could feel it, Like I don't have
<v Speaker 3>any pads or anything, so when it started stomping, I
<v Speaker 3>would Yes, the thing was I don't know. It could
<v Speaker 3>be as close as thirty feet, could be fifty feet away,
<v Speaker 3>which is more impressive. The fact that I could feel
<v Speaker 3>the vibrations through the earth. I mean, like, how heavy
<v Speaker 3>do you have to be to where you can feel
<v Speaker 3>the stops of something like it's very very heavy. You
<v Speaker 3>could just hear and feel the power.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it sounded like it was a really big one.
<v Speaker 1>And then they started wood knocking, doing rock clocks and
<v Speaker 1>moving around. Is that what happened afterwards?
<v Speaker 2>That was separate day.
<v Speaker 3>It was probably a couple days later during the day
<v Speaker 3>outside Cave Junction, we hiked around Cave Junction, no activity,
<v Speaker 3>but doing some some flip flop wax outside on the road.
<v Speaker 3>It was so thickly forested. You can't even see ten
<v Speaker 3>feet into that forest. But I know nothing, nothing, nothing,
<v Speaker 3>And then that one time, it is just like the
<v Speaker 3>forest can't alive. It really seemed like there's potentially two
<v Speaker 3>to my right, one to my left, and they just
<v Speaker 3>whatever they had in their hands or in front of them,
<v Speaker 3>they would mess with, like shake this tree, break.
<v Speaker 2>This branch, you know, hit this log.
<v Speaker 3>Like it was just like all of a sudden, It's
<v Speaker 3>like the Bigfoot jamboree, Like, oh my god, it's crazy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely in the cave that you guys explored, was
<v Speaker 1>that a man made cave or was that a natural cave?
<v Speaker 2>That's a good question.
<v Speaker 3>I'm intentionally I've intentionally left out that detail, but I
<v Speaker 3>think that it's probably gonna be difficult enough for somebody
<v Speaker 3>to find it to where I can give this detail.
<v Speaker 3>It's because of the richness of the area. It was
<v Speaker 3>a man made cave. It was a mine.
<v Speaker 1>Shaft, Okay. Made me wonder if it was a place
<v Speaker 1>that they utilized for shelter, and it kind of reminded
<v Speaker 1>me of the Mount Saint Helen's story.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm not familiar with the Mount Saint Helen's story.
<v Speaker 3>I'm familiar with some encounters up there. But did somebody
<v Speaker 3>see when coming out of a cave?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when Mount Saint Helen's blew up there, there was
<v Speaker 1>mention of a They did mention a cave, but I'm
<v Speaker 1>not really sure if they were living there. I think
<v Speaker 1>what it was was like the Sasquatch guided the government
<v Speaker 1>officials to a cave and that's where like some of
<v Speaker 1>its family members were. I don't know if it's a
<v Speaker 1>true story. It kind of sounds out there, but it
<v Speaker 1>reminded me of that the same setting anyways.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then that story you just told me reminds
<v Speaker 3>me of a story which is to exemplify the other
<v Speaker 3>side of the coin, which is not mourning people that
<v Speaker 3>they are dangerous, but they're also very peaceful and helpful
<v Speaker 3>as well.
<v Speaker 2>Like, there's this story about this guy. You probably heard
<v Speaker 2>it or read it.
<v Speaker 3>This guy like broke his leg or hurt himself on
<v Speaker 3>a trail and he says a bigfoot carried him to
<v Speaker 3>the trailhead and dropped them off.
<v Speaker 2>Do you ever hear that story?
<v Speaker 1>Is that the Albert Osmond story?
<v Speaker 3>No, it's not an Osman one, it's a different one.
<v Speaker 3>This might even be from the two thousands. It might
<v Speaker 3>be like the Marble Mountains or something like that. Some
<v Speaker 3>guy like hurts himself really badly on a hike and
<v Speaker 3>he says, basically a bigfoot grabs him and takes him
<v Speaker 3>to the trailhead.
<v Speaker 2>And drops him off where the cars are.
<v Speaker 3>And that would indicate that they're smart enough to know
<v Speaker 3>that if there's a hurt person, then the woods are
<v Speaker 3>going to start crawling with more people soon, so they
<v Speaker 3>better get that hurt person out of there.
<v Speaker 2>So you know, they're really intelligent. They have language.
<v Speaker 3>This is why I refer to them as people not
<v Speaker 3>as animals, because these things are highly intelligent. They have language.
<v Speaker 3>Many people have heard them and their language, so you
<v Speaker 3>have language. People have seen them with like a makeshift
<v Speaker 3>kind of clothing onto traps in Lake Lake Shasta. People
<v Speaker 3>have seen them messing with what looks to be some
<v Speaker 3>sort of a fish trap. Like the fact that they
<v Speaker 3>have language, like, they're they're wild people. You know, they're
<v Speaker 3>referred to as our brothers by the Native Americans, ancestors,
<v Speaker 3>what have you. Like, they're straight up people like just
<v Speaker 3>don't shoot them ever, give them their respect as wild people.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. The wildest part of your experiences was when you
<v Speaker 1>guys took off out of the area, drove for an hour,
<v Speaker 1>and then ended up back to where the screams and
<v Speaker 1>the roars took place. Do you feel like something supernatural
<v Speaker 1>happened there? He did mention like a portal.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm not going to jump to that. However, you know,
<v Speaker 3>since you know, I have heard you know recently that
<v Speaker 3>there's like people talking about the same kind of thing
<v Speaker 3>with Bigfoot, where they have a bigfoot encounter and somehow
<v Speaker 3>they they like there's missing time or they appear somewhere else.
<v Speaker 3>So I do realize that there is some kind of
<v Speaker 3>similarities with other people's encounters.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to jump there.
<v Speaker 3>It was very strange though, Like I guess it's possible
<v Speaker 3>I drove for an hour, hour and a half and
<v Speaker 3>wound up in the same place, But I just it
<v Speaker 3>blows my.
<v Speaker 2>Mind, like it was just it was crazy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, Was there anything happening when you guys returned
<v Speaker 1>to the area or did you just keep driving?
<v Speaker 2>We were so distraught.
<v Speaker 3>It was it was pitch black dark at that time,
<v Speaker 3>so we weren't going to stay around one more second
<v Speaker 3>than we had to. The second we realized we were
<v Speaker 3>right back with the bigfoot, we just we just left
<v Speaker 3>right away again, because I have heard and read about
<v Speaker 3>stories of people getting grabbed at in their cars. Fuld
<v Speaker 3>that in the cars that they reach into the car,
<v Speaker 3>they throw stuff at the cars. Like we if we
<v Speaker 3>had a car breakdown or something happened, we would be dead.
<v Speaker 2>So this was life and death for us. We just
<v Speaker 2>got out of there.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, I don't blame you. I have noticed a
<v Speaker 1>correlation with bigfoot and areas that hold gold in them.
<v Speaker 1>I actually had a guy named Sergio on the channel
<v Speaker 1>years ago, and he was from California and he was
<v Speaker 1>out there looking for gold and came across a lot
<v Speaker 1>of strange experiences, some strange finds, and yeah, it makes
<v Speaker 1>me wonder. So areas where gold is, where people find
<v Speaker 1>gold that is pretty remote from what I can tell.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the more remote, the better the gold.
<v Speaker 3>And I forgot actually two encounters. There's this Oregon prospector
<v Speaker 3>I was talking to. He lived and grew up in
<v Speaker 3>southern Oregon, and I told him about some of my
<v Speaker 3>encounters and my friends encounters and he said, you know,
<v Speaker 3>I'm not like a full fledged believer, but I have
<v Speaker 3>most of my friends and family have seen them.
<v Speaker 2>So he's like, I'm not going to discount it. And
<v Speaker 2>I said, you know what, just give me a call
<v Speaker 2>when you see one.
<v Speaker 3>He goes, all right. He called me six months later
<v Speaker 3>and said, I saw a bigfoot and walked in front
<v Speaker 3>of my car southern Oregon, middle of the day. He
<v Speaker 3>sought for like ten seconds and you know, going through
<v Speaker 3>the brush and all that nine feet tall. Classic story.
<v Speaker 3>And then he told me about these other prospectors. They
<v Speaker 3>were actually miners. They were mining. They were dredging on
<v Speaker 3>a creek out there in southern Oregon somewhere, and there
<v Speaker 3>was two of them, and I think this day they
<v Speaker 3>had their wives with them. So there's like four people.
<v Speaker 3>Middle of the day and someone has to go to
<v Speaker 3>the car to get something, and when they go to
<v Speaker 3>the car, a bigfoot's there and it just like it's
<v Speaker 3>very menacing. And they run down the trail and there's
<v Speaker 3>another one and they go to the miners and they're like,
<v Speaker 3>oh my god, there's a big foot. And just then
<v Speaker 3>the miners are having bigfoot approached them. They're getting a
<v Speaker 3>from all sides. Everyone's getting surrounded by them, and it's
<v Speaker 3>I don't know a lot of details, but I can
<v Speaker 3>venture to guess there's probably they were very menacing and
<v Speaker 3>they encroached on these people got very close. I know
<v Speaker 3>that these encounters were very close. They showed themselves to
<v Speaker 3>these people.
<v Speaker 2>They wanted them out.
<v Speaker 3>These guys were so scared they left their dredge and
<v Speaker 3>all their equipment. This could have been ten thousand dollars
<v Speaker 3>in equipment, as well as the gold in the sluice box.
<v Speaker 2>The thing that holds all the gold on the dredge.
<v Speaker 2>They left all that.
<v Speaker 3>They went back to the car, which the big foot
<v Speaker 3>cut them off at the car. Like the whole getting
<v Speaker 3>out of there was terrifying for them. And they got
<v Speaker 3>in the car and they left. They told my friend
<v Speaker 3>and they said they're not going back. And they were
<v Speaker 3>on great gold. So yeah, good gold. They put encounters
<v Speaker 3>Southern Oregon. Same thing. And that's what Albert Oustman was too.
<v Speaker 3>We talked about Albert Osman. He was a prospector, and
<v Speaker 3>so you know, you go into those deep woods, you're
<v Speaker 3>gonna find bigfoot like sooner or later.
<v Speaker 2>And here's the thing.
<v Speaker 3>Out of all the prospectors I know, all the gold prospectors,
<v Speaker 3>I would say for people who've been doing it ten
<v Speaker 3>years seriously, like at least once a week for ten
<v Speaker 3>years in areas with good gold, those people have almost
<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent percentage chance of encountering a bigfoot from
<v Speaker 3>people I've talked to, because I'm well networked in the
<v Speaker 3>gold prospecting, gold mining community in particular small scale. Once
<v Speaker 3>you go big scale, it's you know, you have all
<v Speaker 3>these excavators and stuff, and it's a little harder and
<v Speaker 3>you know, more open areas. But these small scale people,
<v Speaker 3>it's usually them or someone else.
<v Speaker 2>They just have a pan.
<v Speaker 3>They're quiet there, they're just sitting there, you know, looking down.
<v Speaker 3>They're very approachable, and so that's why they're encountering the bigfoot.
<v Speaker 3>And so if you if you're into gold prospecting and
<v Speaker 3>you go remote places, it's only a matter of time
<v Speaker 3>for you. Because everyone I know who's been doing it
<v Speaker 3>has had encounters, like everyone, and that show I was on,
<v Speaker 3>Frozen Gold in Greenland. Those were all prospectors, some more
<v Speaker 3>serious than others, but regardless, everybody on that show had
<v Speaker 3>big foot encounters. Most of them had seen a bigfoot,
<v Speaker 3>some of them more than once. The guy Christian almost
<v Speaker 3>hit one with his car. He says, the twins they
<v Speaker 3>had one around them. They had the trash smell. This
<v Speaker 3>girl from Arizona she saw one twice on two separate occasions.
<v Speaker 3>I believe her because she was living in Oregon at
<v Speaker 3>the time. Actually, and then me, I had had encounters.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about Ray. I didn't ask him, but
<v Speaker 3>that's literally five of six of people without asking, the
<v Speaker 3>six had had encounters, so super duper common for gold prospectors.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, I heard stories from Alaska during the gold
<v Speaker 1>rush that they kept finding people panting for gold on
<v Speaker 1>the sides of the rivers and the creeks, and they
<v Speaker 1>said that it seemed like something came up behind them
<v Speaker 1>and bashed them in the head. But they kept finding
<v Speaker 1>that same that same scenario all up and down in Alaska,
<v Speaker 1>which is scary to think about. A lot of people
<v Speaker 1>claim that it was the hairy man sneaking up on
<v Speaker 1>people and smash them in the head like with a rock.
<v Speaker 2>It's absolutely terrifying. I was not aware of that.
<v Speaker 3>It just goes to show you that if you do
<v Speaker 3>encounter a bigfoot and they exhibit any signs of aggression,
<v Speaker 3>especially if they vocalize or tree breaking or grunting or anything,
<v Speaker 3>you need to take it seriously because they can and
<v Speaker 3>they have murdered people. I just mentioned the diatlav pass
<v Speaker 3>I mentioned the woman who's abducted. You're telling me about
<v Speaker 3>these people in Alaska who had their heads bashed in
<v Speaker 3>That to me sounds like a bigfoot. I mean, what
<v Speaker 3>the heck else is going to do that. It sounds
<v Speaker 3>like the injuries were kind of in line with what
<v Speaker 3>a bigfoot would do. And so, like I used to
<v Speaker 3>actually believe that Bigfoot was totally peaceful. But I'm starting
<v Speaker 3>to realize more and more that you really need to
<v Speaker 3>take this threat seriously, that they can kill us. And
<v Speaker 3>this is one of the reasons potentially why the government
<v Speaker 3>hasn't come clean to us about what they know, because
<v Speaker 3>we do have a threat in the woods that's way
<v Speaker 3>more dangerous than that lines are bears.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure, a deer could kill you if
<v Speaker 1>it wanted to. So definitely a sasquatch could rip you
<v Speaker 1>into pieces.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I'm even more scared just hearing what you're telling
<v Speaker 3>me about these guys getting their heads bashed in. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>think about the time you had. It was super remote Alaska.
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's still there's not a lot of people.
<v Speaker 3>But in the places where these people were murdered, you
<v Speaker 3>got to keep in mind, like there's a huge influx,
<v Speaker 3>a caravan of people coming there. So the Bigfoot felt
<v Speaker 3>like they were getting invaded. They see these people and
<v Speaker 3>they see it like a scourge. They're like, oh my gosh,
<v Speaker 3>our privacy are hunting grounds. They're scaring away the deer,
<v Speaker 3>they're killing the deer, killing the game. Yeah, there's some
<v Speaker 3>stories of trappers out there getting killed. There's one story
<v Speaker 3>of trapper getting killed, but I think they had actually
<v Speaker 3>shot a big Foot, so that's a little different. But yeah,
<v Speaker 3>you've got to be careful out there. They are there
<v Speaker 3>and they can kill you and they.
<v Speaker 1>Might Oh yeah, absolutely. And you know, you often hear
<v Speaker 1>people say that they're only aggressive in Alaska. That's not true.
<v Speaker 1>I've heard stories down here in the States where they
<v Speaker 1>display the same type of behavior. And I mean, I
<v Speaker 1>think there are nice ones out there, but I think
<v Speaker 1>a lot of that has to it's probably juveniles and
<v Speaker 1>females that are interacting with people, but the big males,
<v Speaker 1>from what I've seen, they're the same all across the board.
<v Speaker 1>But it's hard to say. I mean, maybe it's like
<v Speaker 1>Native Americans. You had good tribes that were peaceful, and
<v Speaker 1>then you had other tribes that would scalp you and
<v Speaker 1>you know, take you out. And I think a lot
<v Speaker 1>of the tribes were at war trying to escape from
<v Speaker 1>the bad tribes and just live in peace and harmony.
<v Speaker 2>You know.
<v Speaker 3>The irony about this thing is like our relationship with
<v Speaker 3>Native Americans now is kind of like how they were
<v Speaker 3>with the Bigfoot, because they were in the I believe
<v Speaker 3>at one point before Native Americans the Bigfoot, they probably
<v Speaker 3>were still in the forest, but they could.
<v Speaker 2>Kind of roam more freely.
<v Speaker 3>And then these people wander in and they start inhabiting
<v Speaker 3>the plains. These Native Americans, they start getting abducted, they
<v Speaker 3>start getting murdered when they're up against the woods, which
<v Speaker 3>is typically where they were hunting and stuff. So they
<v Speaker 3>actually had relationships with the Bigfoot where they'd say, Okay,
<v Speaker 3>we don't go to that area. That place is for you.
<v Speaker 3>It's like a reservation. They had reservations for Bigfoot, and
<v Speaker 3>then we created reservations for the Native Americans. But like
<v Speaker 3>they had this all throughout the US, places where they
<v Speaker 3>would not go, kind of like the natives of the
<v Speaker 3>ural that warned the kids not to go to that area.
<v Speaker 2>They said, we had issues at the Bigfoot.
<v Speaker 3>We essentially had an agreement with them, not a treaty,
<v Speaker 3>but like, okay, you guys go there, we stay here.
<v Speaker 2>We won't go in your area.
<v Speaker 3>This has happened all throughout the US, and I believe
<v Speaker 3>there are still Bigfoot where this kind of carries over.
<v Speaker 3>There are places in every state where you just can't go.
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter what time of day, it is doesn't
<v Speaker 3>matter what time of year. I believe because they live
<v Speaker 3>there full time, they have to protect it and they
<v Speaker 3>enforce it. Like the place where my wife and I
<v Speaker 3>were screamed at historical recent and then follow up encounters
<v Speaker 3>after us. I think a place like that, and in
<v Speaker 3>southern Oregon, you have enough resources to sustain them year round,
<v Speaker 3>and for that reason they heavily patrol and enforce people
<v Speaker 3>not being there. It's like, get out of here, because
<v Speaker 3>you're not supposed to be here. We're not supposed to
<v Speaker 3>be in the woods. From their point of view, I
<v Speaker 3>think that's how they see it is the woods is
<v Speaker 3>for them and we're just kind of invading.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely, And whether it was designed for that
<v Speaker 1>purpose or not, it seems like government land is their
<v Speaker 1>safe zone and there's no there's not really any houses
<v Speaker 1>on government land, state forests, wildlife refuges, and national forests.
<v Speaker 1>So when people go in there, it makes sense why
<v Speaker 1>these things go berserk. They'll wood knock, they'll slam down
<v Speaker 1>trees or escort people out of an area. And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>they're definitely territorial.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean we only hear the stories where people
<v Speaker 3>survive to tell the story, but those people that go missing,
<v Speaker 3>their stories don't get told. And I think if you
<v Speaker 3>look at how many people go missing in the woods,
<v Speaker 3>like if you just had that on a map, and
<v Speaker 3>you just put that and you can see all these
<v Speaker 3>little dots where people go missing, and then you cross
<v Speaker 3>reference that with bigfoot reports, I bet you'd have a
<v Speaker 3>lot of crossover. And I'd venture to guess maybe one
<v Speaker 3>out of ten of those missing people. Maybe not that high,
<v Speaker 3>maybe more, maybe less, But certainly there's a percentage of
<v Speaker 3>people who are getting taken by bigfoot. I think that
<v Speaker 3>it's happening more often than people realize.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, I've noticed that areas that have high
<v Speaker 1>amounts of bigfoot activity, there's high amounts of missing people.
<v Speaker 1>But again, there has to be just like a percentage
<v Speaker 1>of missing people, you know, being due to bigfoot, because
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a lot of bad people out there
<v Speaker 1>that will do horrible things to other people, and people
<v Speaker 1>that get mixed into the wrong crowds the wrong things, addictions,
<v Speaker 1>mental health, whatever it may be. But I do believe
<v Speaker 1>a percentage has to I don't know it has to
<v Speaker 1>be bigfoot. I'm not sure. Really, it makes me wonder.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, like this this doctor friend of ours, like
<v Speaker 3>he has no idea. He probably never crossed his mind
<v Speaker 3>the fact that his wife was taken by a bigfoot.
<v Speaker 3>And I would better a thousand dollars on it, because
<v Speaker 3>there's nothing else that makes sense. It's just such a
<v Speaker 3>remote place, it's so full of bigfoot, such a thick forest.
<v Speaker 3>You have the report, and you have all these little
<v Speaker 3>things leading up to it, you know, like she didn't scream,
<v Speaker 3>she didn't shoot her gun. She had a three fifty
<v Speaker 3>seven on her side, you know, like that's pretty quick
<v Speaker 3>and easy to shoot, but she didn't shoot. She didn't scream.
<v Speaker 3>No drag marks, no nothing, no blood, no torn clothing.
<v Speaker 3>And they scoured the area for miles. The only thing
<v Speaker 3>they can do that is a bigfoot. And people go, oh, aliens.
<v Speaker 3>It's like, yeah, well that's less plausible. I'm not saying
<v Speaker 3>aliens aren't real and they don't abduct people. It's just
<v Speaker 3>like in that situation, I believe a bigfoot abducted her,
<v Speaker 3>and so many other people throughout the US, Like if
<v Speaker 3>you look up the abduction stories, there's potentially thousands, Like
<v Speaker 3>we don't even hear those stories. But the natives, the
<v Speaker 3>Native Americans have it full of those encounters. They would
<v Speaker 3>say it everyone, and then the early settlers of the
<v Speaker 3>US same thing, and even now you have the exact
<v Speaker 3>same story. Don't go out at night, don't got in
<v Speaker 3>those woods, or the grassman will get you or the
<v Speaker 3>wild man will get you. Either way it's the same.
<v Speaker 3>The same result is the Bigfoot's gonna get you. You
<v Speaker 3>go there, They're gonna grab you and take you away.
<v Speaker 3>It's happening.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. I kind of chuckle a little bit when
<v Speaker 1>I see those people going and marching on the streets
<v Speaker 1>or petitioning in like against Congress for the protection of
<v Speaker 1>the unknown species known as Bigfoot, and I think to myself, man,
<v Speaker 1>we need protection from these things. I mean, it's good
<v Speaker 1>to protect their land, but we need protection from sasquatch
<v Speaker 1>because people are going missing, people are being hurt by
<v Speaker 1>these things, and they're doing just fine out there. If anything,
<v Speaker 1>we need protection, and that would be awareness signs in
<v Speaker 1>these areas where they're at. And yeah, just I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>available knowledg to the public people that they are out.
<v Speaker 3>There absolutely, which leads me into the next question, like, Okay,
<v Speaker 3>we know Bigfoot's real and if you've you know, someone
<v Speaker 3>like you probably heard these stories of government getting bodies
<v Speaker 3>in some way, whether they shoot them, like you have
<v Speaker 3>an ex military coming out saying they're part of a
<v Speaker 3>squad in the woods and they killed Bigfoot and some
<v Speaker 3>guys came and got it, or or some woman's house
<v Speaker 3>gets quarantined and they've seized the house and take the
<v Speaker 3>house and there's just some incident with the Bigfoot, or
<v Speaker 3>like even like Todd Standing he talks about and you know,
<v Speaker 3>love him or hate him or believe him or not,
<v Speaker 3>Like I think there could be some truth, especially when
<v Speaker 3>you see that so many people saying the same thing
<v Speaker 3>about like they're in the deep woods and they hear
<v Speaker 3>automatic gunfire, helicopter comes, you know, with no lights on
<v Speaker 3>and disappears. It's like there's too many stories about people
<v Speaker 3>saying something along the lines of government can killed and
<v Speaker 3>took Bigfoot. So we know, I believe we have the
<v Speaker 3>knowledge that this is the truth. This has actually happened
<v Speaker 3>and is happening. So why isn't the government telling us
<v Speaker 3>that Bigfoot's real? And I think the reason is there's
<v Speaker 3>a few reasons. One which is what we're saying is
<v Speaker 3>they're dangerous and their threat to us but they're unaware
<v Speaker 3>of the full extent of the threat. They don't know
<v Speaker 3>everything about Bigfoot. They can't decode the language. But here's
<v Speaker 3>the two other factors that may be more significant. One
<v Speaker 3>is they live in the forest that we log and
<v Speaker 3>we build for economic growth. If we have to set
<v Speaker 3>aside forests for Bigfoot, that's going to inhibit our economic
<v Speaker 3>growth into the forests, inhibit development into those lands. So
<v Speaker 3>I think that's a huge economic reason why they wouldn't
<v Speaker 3>do this, because they know, oh, now all the forests
<v Speaker 3>are protected. Now we can't build our cities, we can't
<v Speaker 3>expand now that's so much growth we're not going to
<v Speaker 3>be able to capitalize on. So there's that, and then
<v Speaker 3>there's also the whole extraterrestrial element.
<v Speaker 2>You know, in Brazil, my wife from.
<v Speaker 3>Brazil, they have this Project blue Book and they regard
<v Speaker 3>Bigfoot as the Beta race and they have a picture
<v Speaker 3>of basically a Bigfoot they describe it.
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know how the Project Blue Books running
<v Speaker 2>around in Brazil, but.
<v Speaker 3>It's interesting that they regard this thing as an extraterrestrial
<v Speaker 3>alien that happens to live in the woods.
<v Speaker 2>It has these.
<v Speaker 3>Intelligent, incredible abilities, but it chooses to live in the woods,
<v Speaker 3>or it was put in the woods, it's genetics were altered,
<v Speaker 3>and it was designed and put in our woods, something
<v Speaker 3>along those lines. I'm not fully familiar with their beliefs
<v Speaker 3>about this subject matter. So you have the fact that
<v Speaker 3>they can hurt us, the fact that the government doesn't
<v Speaker 3>fully know that it's extraterrestrial, or if it was, they
<v Speaker 3>certainly wouldn't tell us that it was real if it had.
<v Speaker 3>I supposedly people have stories of it coming in and
<v Speaker 3>out of UFOs. I've seen videos where there's there seems
<v Speaker 3>to be a strange correlation between orbs and Bigfoot and
<v Speaker 3>their insane ability to just appear and disappear. The most
<v Speaker 3>compelling video I saw was this Bigfoot show I saw.
<v Speaker 2>I forget what it was.
<v Speaker 3>It was like a it's like a paranormal show where
<v Speaker 3>these woods are haunted. I forget which one. This guy
<v Speaker 3>has the security camera footage. It was so interesting because
<v Speaker 3>it's it's a camera on the side of the house,
<v Speaker 3>middle of the day, and you see clearly this orb
<v Speaker 3>with an irregular orbit go into the tree line and
<v Speaker 3>disappear behind a tree. And then just as it disappears,
<v Speaker 3>a large Bigfoot shape appears and starts shaking the tree.
<v Speaker 3>It was like the Bigfoot just appeared the orbit behind
<v Speaker 3>the tree and disappeared. The Bigfoot appeared and started shaking
<v Speaker 3>the tree. And I don't believe this guy was faking it.
<v Speaker 3>He hit a lot of footage, a lot of evidence,
<v Speaker 3>and it appeared unaltered. And then there's all these other
<v Speaker 3>stories all of a sudden, and I'm not so familiar
<v Speaker 3>with all these encounters, but there's certainly a lot of
<v Speaker 3>encounters with these. So maybe the big the government's not
<v Speaker 3>telling us because it can hurt us, be it hitters
<v Speaker 3>economic growth, and potentially see it is some sort of
<v Speaker 3>high intelligence extraterrestrial alien that like they don't know enough about.
<v Speaker 2>They can't say, oh big, but it's real. Okay, what
<v Speaker 2>is it? We don't know? That doesn't look good for them,
<v Speaker 2>you know, so, oh yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's totally above I don't think it's
<v Speaker 1>just one particular reason. I think it's many reasons, like
<v Speaker 1>you said, from them not acknowledging that there's like mountain
<v Speaker 1>wons in an area all the way up to these
<v Speaker 1>things displaying supernatural behavior as far as like orbs cloaking
<v Speaker 1>whatever it may be, And yeah, I mean it will
<v Speaker 1>definitely damage the logging industry. And you know how many
<v Speaker 1>like deer tags they sell each year in Missouri, it's
<v Speaker 1>like five hundred thousand, maybe even like seven hundred thousand,
<v Speaker 1>and you times that by twenty. You know, they're making
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money. Heck, like in Colorado and Elk
<v Speaker 1>tags like eight hundred something dollars for a non resident,
<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of money in hunting. Can you
<v Speaker 1>imagine what people would think if they saw a sign
<v Speaker 1>that says Bigfoot area, enter at your own risk like that.
<v Speaker 1>There would be a lot less hunters, that's for sure,
<v Speaker 1>you know.
<v Speaker 2>And I have seen signs like that.
<v Speaker 3>I personally believe that if the government came clean, it
<v Speaker 3>would be shocking.
<v Speaker 2>And we'd have like all these people going, oh my god,
<v Speaker 2>big for Goodfoot. But then I think people would.
<v Speaker 3>Come back to reality and be like, yeah, whatever, Bigfoot's real,
<v Speaker 3>Like for people like you and me, when.
<v Speaker 2>We're so aware that they're real, like it.
<v Speaker 3>This is a little bit of the sex appeal, I think,
<v Speaker 3>And I think that would happen with people too. They'd go, Okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>Bigfoot's real, yeah whatever, Like you know, like hunters go
<v Speaker 3>in the woodard, you.
<v Speaker 2>Might see it, you might not.
<v Speaker 3>But the government, they're just they're too slow to come
<v Speaker 3>out with this stuff. I have seen signs about bigfoot.
<v Speaker 3>There's certainly a lot of Oregon. You'll see them on
<v Speaker 3>trailheads campgrounds. They're more open about it. You'll see billboards
<v Speaker 3>like do not kill a big Foot. You know, you'll
<v Speaker 3>see signs like that.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.
<v Speaker 3>I wish the government would come clean, but the reason
<v Speaker 3>they're not coming clean just exemplifies the fact that they
<v Speaker 3>are truly concerned about this thing.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure. And I mean I don't believe
<v Speaker 1>that all sasquatch are killers, Like I think there are
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch out there that are very compassionate towards human beings
<v Speaker 1>and they will save someone's life. And then there's a
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch that will rip your head off.
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, kids, your loved ones out of sight, don't
<v Speaker 3>you got to be super aware that they're real. And
<v Speaker 3>it's the funniest thing to me that people don't believe
<v Speaker 3>they're real without doing any research of their own, because
<v Speaker 3>if they did any real research, without going straight to
<v Speaker 3>some fake popes video, everyone's just pushing the bigfoot thing
<v Speaker 3>to sell whatever beef jerky you're pap or whatever it is.
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's like it's gotten to the point where
<v Speaker 3>it's almost ridiculous to people, but it's real.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm even more.
<v Speaker 3>Cautious about the woods because the little places all I'm
<v Speaker 3>looking at them out and right now, raw Peak, I
<v Speaker 3>believe there could be bigfoot living inside Raw Peak. There's
<v Speaker 3>so many old copper mind shafts. They're all over the place,
<v Speaker 3>and if you're not ready, they'll make you disappear.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure.
<v Speaker 3>And even if you are ready, I mean, there's nothing
<v Speaker 3>you can do. I mean, if you're lucky enough to
<v Speaker 3>kill a bigfoot, if you somehow are able to kill
<v Speaker 3>a big foot, it's already so close that it could
<v Speaker 3>have killed you with a rock. But if you kill one,
<v Speaker 3>then what about the other one that heard the gunfire?
<v Speaker 3>What about the one in the bush fifty feet away
<v Speaker 3>that watched this whole thing, that didn't want you to
<v Speaker 3>kill its friend. It's like, good luck getting out of
<v Speaker 3>there alive. This is why those guns are only good
<v Speaker 3>to you use on yourself. Like, don't ever shoot a
<v Speaker 3>big foot ever, ever. Ever, I don't care how aggressive
<v Speaker 3>they are. It's pointless to shoot a big foot because
<v Speaker 3>it's it's hard. It's hard to kill him, Like you
<v Speaker 3>need a big gun. You got to be a good stot.
<v Speaker 3>You need the right situation, Like if they come up
<v Speaker 3>to you, there's still a good chance they're not going
<v Speaker 3>to kill you. They if they come up to you,
<v Speaker 3>they still might want you to run away.
<v Speaker 1>It'd be like trying to drag an elephant out of
<v Speaker 1>the area. There was that guy in California, I think
<v Speaker 1>it was California, Justin Schmidt, that shot the female and
<v Speaker 1>the two little ones, and he didn't want to take
<v Speaker 1>out the little one because he saw like a ranger
<v Speaker 1>up the road before they they got to that area.
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if you ever heard that story.
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's an awful story, but I believe the guy.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if you're like you and me and we know
<v Speaker 3>that they're real, it's a really hard story to hear
<v Speaker 3>because it just I'm like, what the heck is wrong
<v Speaker 3>with you?
<v Speaker 2>You crazy stupid redneck, Like you.
<v Speaker 3>Shot it because you said it shouldn't exist, Like why why?
<v Speaker 2>And then you kill it?
<v Speaker 3>And then didn't he say he killed one of the babies,
<v Speaker 3>like one of the babies went to the month. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I think he killed and then like killed one of
<v Speaker 3>the babies and then the other one got away. I'm like, dude,
<v Speaker 3>first of all, if I see a bigfoot, he grew
<v Speaker 3>up in Gold Country, He's heard of bigfoot, So the
<v Speaker 3>thing that should go to his head is that's a
<v Speaker 3>bigfoot and he saw in the scope it was too human.
<v Speaker 3>There's dumber, stupid or redneck hicks that didn't shoot these
<v Speaker 3>all around the world who saw them in their scope
<v Speaker 3>and could have just pulled the trigger, and they all
<v Speaker 3>said the same thing, it looked too human. But that
<v Speaker 3>guy saw it human and then killed it, and then
<v Speaker 3>he chased it down and killed its baby like that
<v Speaker 3>is Like I certainly appreciate the fact that he's done
<v Speaker 3>on one eighty like and I believe him because of
<v Speaker 3>a lot of reasons.
<v Speaker 2>But I hate that story, like I hate I hate
<v Speaker 2>hearing anyone.
<v Speaker 3>Who shot a big foot Like it's it's painful for
<v Speaker 3>me to hear that because think of all the times
<v Speaker 3>they didn't kill people when they could have, including the
<v Speaker 3>people who shot him, Like these people are stupid, Like
<v Speaker 3>that's just some stupid redneck crap to me.
<v Speaker 2>Like he absolutely, I believe killed.
<v Speaker 1>He knew what it was or else he wanted to
<v Speaker 1>squeeze the trigger and a second time. And yeah, I
<v Speaker 1>just think he felt awful after that and the reality
<v Speaker 1>of the situation, you know, seeped in. But I mean,
<v Speaker 1>I'm neutral on it. I mean, I can't hate on
<v Speaker 1>the guy, but at the same time, I wouldn't do
<v Speaker 1>it personally. And yeah, it is an awful story, but
<v Speaker 1>I believe I believe the guy. I mean, I definitely
<v Speaker 1>think you.
<v Speaker 3>The only way you kill one is if you're doing it,
<v Speaker 3>because you have to prove their real So if you're
<v Speaker 3>gonna kill one, you better make it worthwhile and cut
<v Speaker 3>off a hand or a toe or something like. You
<v Speaker 3>cut off as much as you can and getting out
<v Speaker 3>of there alive.
<v Speaker 1>I would have brought the whole the whole body of
<v Speaker 1>the little one. I mean, you already shot it, you
<v Speaker 1>might as well take it out if you get caught
<v Speaker 1>with it. I would just say, these things don't exist,
<v Speaker 1>They're not supposed to this. I mean, what are they
<v Speaker 1>going to do?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's a that's a really weird situation to
<v Speaker 3>be and to have the body of this creature. I
<v Speaker 3>can't help, but feel like it's going to jump the
<v Speaker 3>chain of command really quickly, if you.
<v Speaker 1>He did say he did get harassed after that by
<v Speaker 1>government figures.
<v Speaker 2>So oh really, I didn't hear that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a new documentary on small town monsters. He
<v Speaker 1>was on it and he talks about it and that.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a lot more that happened after that.
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, what what did the government do? Did
<v Speaker 3>they want details? Did they interrogate him?
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember what happened, if like they burnt down
<v Speaker 1>his house or if he lost his job. I can't
<v Speaker 1>remember the details on that. But yeah, he definitely got
<v Speaker 1>harassed by government figures telling him not to talk about
<v Speaker 1>it anymore.
<v Speaker 3>He's getting death threats from people in the big fit community.
<v Speaker 3>Everyone else thinks he's crazy, and the government is harassing
<v Speaker 3>him and ruining his life. This guy's literally his life
<v Speaker 3>is getting ruined in all ways possible. Like it's not
<v Speaker 3>like people are He's like, some people call me crazy,
<v Speaker 3>and then other people who believe me want to kill me,
<v Speaker 3>and then the government they want everything he knows, and
<v Speaker 3>then they want him to shut up maybe too. So
<v Speaker 3>it's like, what did he have to gain from it.
<v Speaker 3>What does anyone have to gain from this. I'm not
<v Speaker 3>here selling a book, I'm not here promoting a podcast
<v Speaker 3>or YouTube channel like.
<v Speaker 2>I'm just doing this because I want people.
<v Speaker 3>To know that they're real and that they need to
<v Speaker 3>be aware of this and if they want to go
<v Speaker 3>get their hands on some real information. Like any doctor
<v Speaker 3>Jeff Meldrum has a book Legend Mean Science. It literally
<v Speaker 3>has layers of evidence and proof everything you could want,
<v Speaker 3>and it's it's a total case for it. And if
<v Speaker 3>you if anyone does their own research, they'll come to
<v Speaker 3>the same conclusion if they spend enough time doing it,
<v Speaker 3>like unhoaxable evidence, and it just goes deeper and deeper.
<v Speaker 3>This rabbit hole, it just goes deeper and deeper. But
<v Speaker 3>I don't believe the end of the rabbit hole has.
<v Speaker 2>Men in black. I could be wrong.
<v Speaker 3>It seems like the government's kind of I thought they
<v Speaker 3>were kind of hands off on this subject. I didn't
<v Speaker 3>realize they were trying to cover it up. No, yeah, intentionally,
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, for sure. I mean, like you said, plenty
<v Speaker 3>of people have seen these things. They know they're out there,
<v Speaker 3>and yet they won't acknowledge it. They definitely know what's
<v Speaker 3>going on. And I don't believe they know the full
<v Speaker 3>picture of everything, but they know that they're out there. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's no way they've decoded the language. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>even though it is possible, but it's so impossibly hard
<v Speaker 3>to do. Imagine catching two live individuals who can communicate
<v Speaker 3>with each other. It's where you could have somebody decipher
<v Speaker 3>for the language. These things are like a thousand pounds.
<v Speaker 3>They don't want to get caught. You pretty much have
<v Speaker 3>to kill him to catch them. I mean you could
<v Speaker 3>dart them, I guess. And then like they're in woods
<v Speaker 3>with trees one hundred feet tall, how do you get
<v Speaker 3>them out of those woods? Like, it's just impossibly difficult
<v Speaker 3>to deal with that kind of situation, just abducting one,
<v Speaker 3>getting one out of the woods. People don't understand how
<v Speaker 3>thick the woods are in Oregon. In Washington, the trees
<v Speaker 3>are so thick it blocks out the light. The forests
<v Speaker 3>are so thick you can't penetrate with forward looking in
<v Speaker 3>for red, you cannot penetrate it with cameras. You can't
<v Speaker 3>fly over with the drone and see anything. You can't
<v Speaker 3>Day turns to night in these forests and they weave
<v Speaker 3>through the country like highways and they can travel from
<v Speaker 3>state to state without getting seen.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely, which is weird because the state of
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma has I think it's like a million dollar bounty
<v Speaker 1>for anyone who shoots and kills a bigfoot, which you know,
<v Speaker 1>that's that's weird. I mean, you would think that they
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't allow that, but it is what it is. And
<v Speaker 1>like Florida, it's against the law to shoot a skun cape.
<v Speaker 1>So it's all back and forth. I guess it depends
<v Speaker 1>on state level, and then there's the the federal side
<v Speaker 1>of everything. So it's definitely if he waters when it
<v Speaker 1>comes to taking one of these things out. I know
<v Speaker 1>there's I think it's called the Olympic Project in Oregon.
<v Speaker 1>They're trying to kill one. I'm not sure if that's
<v Speaker 1>the group, so don't quote me on that, but I
<v Speaker 1>know there's a group out there that's trying to put
<v Speaker 1>one down to basically prove it to people and for science.
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, who cares about science, right? We're being
<v Speaker 1>lied to on many levels.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, a lot of these bigfoot, these serious bigfoot
<v Speaker 3>people from what I've heard, are pretty against killing them,
<v Speaker 3>even though they know it's the easiest way to get
<v Speaker 3>one and to prove it, Like even then, they're still
<v Speaker 3>so against it. But I know there's absolutely groups hell
<v Speaker 3>bent on killing one. But I don't know that to me,
<v Speaker 3>is just some dumb red deck crap, Like I mean,
<v Speaker 3>if they see it, if they see it face, I
<v Speaker 3>think a lot of them will come to the conclusion
<v Speaker 3>a lot of other people did, which is it's too human,
<v Speaker 3>you know, because they basically have a human face very
<v Speaker 3>slightly their little gorilla esque features.
<v Speaker 1>I guess, oh yeah, but heck, I know rednecks out
<v Speaker 1>here that have had these things in their scope and
<v Speaker 1>they couldn't pull the trigger. I feel like that's beyond redneck.
<v Speaker 1>It's like barbaric. I wouldn't do it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. It's it's inhuman.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you're you're defying humanity, like you might as
<v Speaker 3>well just go kill a person, like, oh no, it's
<v Speaker 3>an animal. It's it's like, no, dude. People have been
<v Speaker 3>talking about these things for thousands of years. I think
<v Speaker 3>there's even reports of like early clipper ships from like
<v Speaker 3>the seventeen hundred seeing these large, hairy ape men walking on.
<v Speaker 2>The shores of our forests. It's like these these like
<v Speaker 2>there's so.
<v Speaker 3>Many layers of encounters from all the hundreds and thousands
<v Speaker 3>of years, you know, going back to it's one hundred
<v Speaker 3>percent real.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure. And I think with Justin Schmid's
<v Speaker 1>story is that's something to take into account is when
<v Speaker 1>he held this little one up and it was coughing
<v Speaker 1>up blood, that's what he thought was this thing's too human.
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like anyone out there that's trying to
<v Speaker 1>take one out be ready for the realization of what
<v Speaker 1>you shot. And I don't know if you'll be able
<v Speaker 1>to handle it, because that really affected that guy's life
<v Speaker 1>and you know, emotionally, mentally, financially, on every level. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't do it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, I'll ruin your life.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, even if you got the million dollars, like
<v Speaker 3>you could kiss your ass goodbye. Because everyone, Okay, you've
<v Speaker 3>proven the species is real. Now they're going to show
<v Speaker 3>the face of this thing that you killed, and they're
<v Speaker 3>gonna say you're a monster. Everyone's gonna hate you. Now
<v Speaker 3>you've proven it's real and you've proved that you've killed
<v Speaker 3>one of these things. And now like the first thing,
<v Speaker 3>they're gonna do is You're gonna be public enemy number one.
<v Speaker 3>Now you're not gonna be remembered for something necessarily good.
<v Speaker 3>Like in one way, it's great, like you've brought this
<v Speaker 3>attention out. But will you bring the attention out or
<v Speaker 3>will the government suppress the story?
<v Speaker 2>Will they get a hold of the body before you
<v Speaker 2>can share it. I don't even know who's gonna pay
<v Speaker 2>the money.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know who you give a body to do it,
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, who do you take it to?
<v Speaker 2>In Oklahoma? He's gonna give you that money.
<v Speaker 3>I want to see that person with the briefcase that
<v Speaker 3>they'll be like, no, first we need to take it
<v Speaker 3>to zoological.
<v Speaker 2>This or that.
<v Speaker 3>And it's like that, dude, someone's gonna take that thing
<v Speaker 3>along the way. The government's gonna take it before it
<v Speaker 3>gets to somebody. You're not gonna get the money, You're
<v Speaker 3>gonna get hated.
<v Speaker 1>Like you said before, there's probably Sasquatch that have killed people,
<v Speaker 1>they just never lived to tell the story. And I
<v Speaker 1>feel like there's people out there that have shot these things,
<v Speaker 1>but we never heard the story either. They took the body.
<v Speaker 1>Those people are in federal prison on some island. But
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure these things have been shot before. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>there's definitely sasquatch that have been killed.
<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely. And there are no.
<v Speaker 3>Known cannibals in the Lovelock Caves. The red giants were,
<v Speaker 3>And it makes sense for them to be cannibals because
<v Speaker 3>they're large and they need a lot of calories, which
<v Speaker 3>you know, bears are very large as well, and they
<v Speaker 3>don't have hands, and now you had hands, you have
<v Speaker 3>more access. But regardless of your access to resources at
<v Speaker 3>which they have plenty, it's still very efficient for them
<v Speaker 3>to eat each other when they die or when they're dying, right,
<v Speaker 3>So I think that was a smart thing for them
<v Speaker 3>to do. They eat the bone, the bone, marrow, all that,
<v Speaker 3>So you know, that totally makes sense to me.
<v Speaker 1>No, Yeah, for sure. There's a lot of stories where
<v Speaker 1>they've found giants and caves, and a lot of stories
<v Speaker 1>and present day where people encounter sasquatch close to caves
<v Speaker 1>and cave areas, and some have even seen sasquatching caves,
<v Speaker 1>so maybe there's a connection there.
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I mean, and they have resources within caves. It's
<v Speaker 3>a perfect hiding place for them to wait till nighttime
<v Speaker 3>and they can go out. They could probably just eat
<v Speaker 3>bugs in the caves too, if they really wanted to.
<v Speaker 2>It's incredible protein source.
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I'm going to follow up on an investigation
<v Speaker 3>here locally with that high school girl who I believe
<v Speaker 3>encountered a Bigfoot. And it just blows my mind to
<v Speaker 3>the location because there's not a lot of cover except
<v Speaker 3>for night time, and there's this area to the west
<v Speaker 3>of Virginia City and it's just pock marked with mine
<v Speaker 3>shafts and these things go for miles. They're so extensive
<v Speaker 3>and they haven't been used in one hundred and fifty
<v Speaker 3>plus years, and it could be in those man made caves.
<v Speaker 3>There's also natural caves to the east and to the west.
<v Speaker 2>To the west it's gypsum.
<v Speaker 3>To the east you have like some tallis caves where
<v Speaker 3>it's basically just rock formations splitting at the top of
<v Speaker 3>the mountains and creating crevasses. And so I believe this
<v Speaker 3>area around Virginia City is where I'm gonna focus my investigation.
<v Speaker 2>And I think there's a possibility.
<v Speaker 3>To me is like you find a cave, like it's
<v Speaker 3>so dangerous because you've blocked potentially their exit. The best,
<v Speaker 3>the least dangerous thing you can encounter is a big foot,
<v Speaker 3>But you can encounter a mountain line with cubs, a
<v Speaker 3>hibernating bear with cubs, like like you could.
<v Speaker 2>Just fall down the mine shaft. You know, these very
<v Speaker 2>dangerous things.
<v Speaker 3>And then you could also just encounter a bigfoot that
<v Speaker 3>just comes out because it knows you know where it
<v Speaker 3>is and it doesn't want you to know where it lives.
<v Speaker 3>So very dangerous thing, but very fascinating.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure. And I'll keep everything we talked
<v Speaker 1>about in the back of my mind when I'm out
<v Speaker 1>there looking for bigfoot.
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's only a matter of time.
<v Speaker 3>You know, if you really want to go have an encounter,
<v Speaker 3>go to the ground zero, go to you know, southern Oregon,
<v Speaker 3>northern California around Happy Camp. Uh.
<v Speaker 2>If someone wants to go out to Cave Junction, go west.
<v Speaker 3>You don't even need like an Oregon You're big footing
<v Speaker 3>wherever you.
<v Speaker 2>Are, Like especially in southern Oregon.
<v Speaker 3>You'll see when you're driving around how thick those woods are,
<v Speaker 3>Like west of Crater Lake or like Ashland West all
<v Speaker 3>the way to the coast is very very bigfooty woods.
<v Speaker 3>And I invite any of your listeners to go out
<v Speaker 3>there and just walk around, be quiet, make a rockets whatever, like,
<v Speaker 3>just be there and just driving those roads. There's a
<v Speaker 3>chance you'll see when during the day you go out
<v Speaker 3>at night, you've increased your chances. But I don't think
<v Speaker 3>you need to go at night. Closer to the coast,
<v Speaker 3>I think is better. More moisture and more vegetation, more resources,
<v Speaker 3>more encounters. So I think when you're close to the coast,
<v Speaker 3>my company the Olympic Peninsula all the way through coastal Oregon,
<v Speaker 3>northern California, super rich in resources. You have clams, muscles,
<v Speaker 3>galore seaweed for salt and iodine, have all the vegetation
<v Speaker 3>you have salmon runs like. It's so such a planthora
<v Speaker 3>of resources for Bigfoot out there, And I know I've
<v Speaker 3>got to finish my big Foot quest. Not finish it,
<v Speaker 3>I'll probably just take it to another level. I've got
<v Speaker 3>to see one because people don't really care what you
<v Speaker 3>say unless you see it. Granted, somebody who's seen one.
<v Speaker 3>I say, I've heard it and I felt it, and
<v Speaker 3>you just saw it. That's just one sense. I got
<v Speaker 3>two senses, So I want to add another layer of
<v Speaker 3>senses to that. I want to get a track, a
<v Speaker 3>cast of a footprint. They're out there, and I know
<v Speaker 3>it's only a matter of time till I encounter on
<v Speaker 3>one again, because I'm not done going to the deep woods,
<v Speaker 3>and I think I'm ready to go back to the
<v Speaker 3>place where they're screaming at me.
<v Speaker 2>But when I go back, I got to go full
<v Speaker 2>Gilly suit, super quiet only for big footing.
<v Speaker 3>With the right person. They've got to have the right
<v Speaker 3>you know. I got to make sure they're not going
<v Speaker 3>to shoot at it or anything like that. And they're
<v Speaker 3>willing to stay there through the thick and the thin
<v Speaker 3>to try to get the evidence. But it's scary. Why
<v Speaker 3>would I go back to a place where they screamed
<v Speaker 3>at me. I have so many other places I could
<v Speaker 3>go and encounter bigfoot, So I'm still not sure I
<v Speaker 3>want to go back there, but I'm ready to at.
<v Speaker 2>Least that at the footage.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wish you the best of luck man and
<v Speaker 1>be safe out there when you're looking for bigfoot. But yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you Eric for sharing all your experiences with me,
<v Speaker 1>and it was an absolute pleasure to have you on
<v Speaker 1>the show today.
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me.
<v Speaker 3>It's been a pleasure and I really appreciate you what
<v Speaker 3>you're doing and spreading this very helpful information of this
<v Speaker 3>very real, living wild person of the woods.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, if you encounter anything else in the future, feel
<v Speaker 1>free to reach out, but until then you'd be safe
<v Speaker 1>out in the forest, my friend.
<v Speaker 2>I will do. Thank you very much.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, thank you, and you have a good night.
<v Speaker 2>Take care, Michael, thank you, sir.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you all for listening to sasquatch theory and and
<v Speaker 1>Eric's encounters and experiences remind us that campers are being
<v Speaker 1>approached by sasquatch and it could be due to the
<v Speaker 1>presence of a female, especially when it's that time of
<v Speaker 1>the month, but you never know, and it's always good
<v Speaker 1>to keep that in mind because the sasquatch are attracted
<v Speaker 1>to women and children. So he makes some very valid
<v Speaker 1>points to keep an eye on your family because you
<v Speaker 1>never know when they will go missing, and it's very possible.
<v Speaker 1>People go missing all the time in wilderness areas, and
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of variables. You just never know.
<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't mean it was bigfoot that caused somebody
<v Speaker 1>to go missing, but there are many reports where people
<v Speaker 1>experience strange activity prior to a family member or a
<v Speaker 1>friend going missing. So just keep that in mind, guys.
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not here to say all sasquatch are bad,
<v Speaker 1>that you really need to watch your back because they're
<v Speaker 1>gonna take you. But the stories are there. The Native
<v Speaker 1>Americans who lived in the wilderness for many, many years
<v Speaker 1>warned us about these things, and even with present people today,
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of people claiming they got attacked
<v Speaker 1>by sasquatch, or that there's evidence there was something mysterious
<v Speaker 1>happening before somebody went missing. So just keep that in mind.
<v Speaker 1>The woods are deeper, stranger, and far more mysterious than
<v Speaker 1>most people realize, and stories like Eric's remind us that
<v Speaker 1>some places don't want to give up their secrets. If
<v Speaker 1>you've had an encounter of your own, reach out to
<v Speaker 1>me at Sasquatch Theory at oulook dot com and share
<v Speaker 1>your story. Until next time, keep your eyes open, keep
<v Speaker 1>your senses sharp, and don't wander too far into the dark.