Ep:206 Injured Bigfoot On Military Base

<v Speaker 1>My dad is full blood American Indian and he was
<v Speaker 1>into the all Indian sports in the seventies and eighties,
<v Speaker 1>and some of the ball fields would be like on
<v Speaker 1>you know, restricted land, which meant you know that there
<v Speaker 1>probably wasn't anybody but natives out there. I remember them
<v Speaker 1>playing ball and everyone puting their headlights on so there
<v Speaker 1>would be lights for them to see.
<v Speaker 2>So there was, you know, weird stuff out there.
<v Speaker 1>Like you just knew at certain places you didn't go
<v Speaker 1>into the woods after dark. There would be whistling, big
<v Speaker 1>shapes moving between the trees. So even as a little girl,
<v Speaker 1>I knew that there was weird stuff.
<v Speaker 3>Just to get us started. Tell me how all of
<v Speaker 3>this began for you.
<v Speaker 1>I think that the first I've seen weird things my
<v Speaker 1>whole life.
<v Speaker 2>But I think the first weird thing that I've seen.
<v Speaker 1>I was about to saw a Native American man in
<v Speaker 1>my closet, and when you know my parents would fight,
<v Speaker 1>he would put his finger over his mouth like to
<v Speaker 1>tell me to be quiet, you know, and not make
<v Speaker 1>any noise.
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, So that's the first thing I remember.
<v Speaker 1>But my dad is full blood American Indian and he
<v Speaker 1>was into the all Indian sports in the seventies and eighties. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and so for all of my childhood was spent you know,
<v Speaker 1>doing with him, you know. And in some of the
<v Speaker 1>ball fields would like on you know, restricted land, right,
<v Speaker 1>which meant which meant you know that that there.
<v Speaker 2>Probably wasn't anybody but the natives out there. And so.
<v Speaker 1>I remember them playing ball and everyone turned their headlights
<v Speaker 1>on so there would be lights for them to see.
<v Speaker 1>So there was you know, weird stuff out there, Like
<v Speaker 1>you just knew at certain places you didn't go into
<v Speaker 1>the woods after dark, there would be whistling, you know,
<v Speaker 1>or you know, big big shapes moving between the trees.
<v Speaker 1>So even as a little girl, I knew, you know,
<v Speaker 1>that there was weird stuff. But I got divorced my
<v Speaker 1>senior year of college, and I had two boys and
<v Speaker 1>I needed to figure out how to feed them. So
<v Speaker 1>I could not find a job, and my ex husband
<v Speaker 1>had been you know, the main breadwinner, and I needed
<v Speaker 1>to feed them babies. So I got convinced by a
<v Speaker 1>recruiter to join the Army reserves, right, And he told
<v Speaker 1>me that I would just go to basic training and
<v Speaker 1>then I do drill you know every once in a while,
<v Speaker 1>and I would not have to leave them right right.
<v Speaker 2>That was not true, which I found out.
<v Speaker 1>So I joined in two thousand and three, and then
<v Speaker 1>in March or two thousand and two. But in March
<v Speaker 1>of two thousand and three, I went to basic training
<v Speaker 1>at Fort Leonard Wood in miss Eira. And I don't
<v Speaker 1>know if you've ever been by there, but they call
<v Speaker 1>it Fort Lost in the Woods because it is so
<v Speaker 1>heavily wooded.
<v Speaker 2>It's beautiful there.
<v Speaker 1>And I hadn't been there very long, probably within the
<v Speaker 1>first week of basic training, I got very sick, and
<v Speaker 1>so they put me in the hospital. And while I
<v Speaker 1>was in the hospital, the President declared war on Iraq.
<v Speaker 1>So we were kind of on like high alert, right.
<v Speaker 1>But I had been in the hospital for a few days,
<v Speaker 1>and it was early morning and the sun was just
<v Speaker 1>coming up, and I hear like an alert, like a
<v Speaker 1>siren go. It almost sounded like a tornado siren, you know,
<v Speaker 1>but different, And so I thought, what the uh? So
<v Speaker 1>I got up and I went to the window of
<v Speaker 1>my hospital room and I.
<v Speaker 2>Was looking around.
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see anything, you know, because in my mind,
<v Speaker 1>like I thought, iraqis might be like, you know, rushing
<v Speaker 1>the base or something, right, I didn't know what was
<v Speaker 1>going on, But.
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna go see if I could find out.
<v Speaker 1>Right, So I'm looking out the window and it was
<v Speaker 1>it's from you know, outside of the window. It was
<v Speaker 1>heavily wooded there too, And all of a sudden, I
<v Speaker 1>see this, what I thought of the time was a
<v Speaker 1>very big monkey. And he came running. I guess it
<v Speaker 1>would be from the east towards the west, I guess.
<v Speaker 1>And but he was holding his arm like you would
<v Speaker 1>if you'd hurt your elbow or your wrist.
<v Speaker 2>He was holding it with his other arm, and I thought,
<v Speaker 2>what the help?
<v Speaker 1>But he was, you know, he was big, like because
<v Speaker 1>I think I was on the second floor.
<v Speaker 2>I know I was on the ground floor. It was
<v Speaker 2>the second or third.
<v Speaker 1>Floor, because he wasn't very far below the bottom of
<v Speaker 1>my window. And I was like, so then my thought
<v Speaker 1>is okay, so do they do animal testing here? Because
<v Speaker 1>I was like, how why is there a monkey in
<v Speaker 1>the middle of Missouri running through an army base. So
<v Speaker 1>he takes off, I mean he was so fast, like
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't limping, but he was running and holding his arm.
<v Speaker 2>I didn't see any injuries on him or anything.
<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe a minute later, all these military police come
<v Speaker 1>behind him like they're on you know, ATVs. They're running,
<v Speaker 1>they have weapons, and in my head, I thought, you know,
<v Speaker 1>there's got to be an animal testing facility and he's loose.
<v Speaker 1>And my next thought was, I hope he doesn't have
<v Speaker 1>some kind of weird disease, you know that everybody's going
<v Speaker 1>to catch. So I only saw him for a brief time,
<v Speaker 1>but he was because he was so freaking fast, and
<v Speaker 1>the military police they weren't messing around. They were after
<v Speaker 1>they went the same way he did, you know. So
<v Speaker 1>like then I thought, well, you know exactly how sick
<v Speaker 1>am I? So I rang the nurse and she came
<v Speaker 1>in there and I asked her if there was an
<v Speaker 1>animal testing facility on site and she was like, what, no,
<v Speaker 1>And I said, She said, why would you ask that?
<v Speaker 2>And I said, well, I just saw a huge.
<v Speaker 1>Monkey's gonna buy and I know they had locked the
<v Speaker 1>building down because it came over the speakers. So she
<v Speaker 1>told me, and she was kind of grumpy, you know.
<v Speaker 1>She told me to stay in my bed, get away
<v Speaker 1>from the window, and don't get out of the bed
<v Speaker 1>unless I needed to go to the restroom, and then
<v Speaker 1>I need to call her.
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, okay, but and that was it.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't I never did hear, you know,
<v Speaker 1>any weapons fire. I didn't you know, never saw him
<v Speaker 1>again after about maybe an hour. They I guess lockdown
<v Speaker 1>was ever with because I did get out of the
<v Speaker 1>bed and was still looking out the window and people
<v Speaker 1>you know, had started moving around.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah again, so how far away was it from you?
<v Speaker 2>Oh? He wasn't far at all, Like I can still
<v Speaker 2>see it in my head.
<v Speaker 1>Probably maybe ten or fifty maybe ten yards maybe ten yards.
<v Speaker 2>So he was running through the trees. He he had this.
<v Speaker 1>Look on his face like, you know, I felt sorry
<v Speaker 1>for him because he he had this look on his
<v Speaker 1>face like he was scared.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so like I just felt sad for him.
<v Speaker 1>But I also was trying to figure out, you know exactly,
<v Speaker 1>you know, do I have a head injury or yeah?
<v Speaker 3>You know what what a crazy scenario, Like I've that
<v Speaker 3>was not what I was not expecting.
<v Speaker 2>That what were you expecting? You know?
<v Speaker 3>I've heard a few stories from people, you know, from
<v Speaker 3>military bases, and it's usually just you know, they're on
<v Speaker 3>a drill or they're standing guard or something. You know,
<v Speaker 3>they're at post, and like they catch a glimpse of something,
<v Speaker 3>but I mean, like this thing was injured and then
<v Speaker 3>you had, you know, basically in hot pursuit after it.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, so clearly this was like they knew what
<v Speaker 3>was going on, they knew.
<v Speaker 1>It was there, and they didn't seem, you know, like
<v Speaker 1>they weren't freaked out like I was, right. So that
<v Speaker 1>made me later when I was trying to think about it,
<v Speaker 1>that made me think that they you know, I mean,
<v Speaker 1>because most normal people, if they see something like that,
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be freaking scared to death, and they weren't.
<v Speaker 3>You saw it, and your head just immediately goes to,
<v Speaker 3>you know, monkey, That's the the closest thing that you
<v Speaker 3>can probably associate it with, Like why on earth is
<v Speaker 3>there a monkey on the military base? But that would
<v Speaker 3>be the only thing that would even make any sense,
<v Speaker 3>Like you're talking about animal testing stuff like that, But
<v Speaker 3>definitely you associated it with an animal, is kind of
<v Speaker 3>what I'm getting at. So I'm thinking from the perspective
<v Speaker 3>of military police, if they saw an injured animal on base,
<v Speaker 3>of course they would radio that in. It wouldn't be
<v Speaker 3>like a pursuit type situation where they're chasing it down
<v Speaker 3>or anything, right.
<v Speaker 1>And it was like, you know, if you kicked a
<v Speaker 1>bee hive, because they were in hot pursuit and there
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of them and they had weapons.
<v Speaker 3>Which is crazy, Like that's crazy. I mean, So how
<v Speaker 3>big was this thing? What did it look like to you?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you know, he was huge.
<v Speaker 1>Like, like I said, I was on not the first floor,
<v Speaker 1>so I think I was on the second street and
<v Speaker 1>he was not. His head was not that far below me.
<v Speaker 1>But he's like the skin on his face was gray,
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a like charcoal ash if it's kind
<v Speaker 1>of been rained on. Yeah, and so were his hands
<v Speaker 1>and his face kind of because the first thing I
<v Speaker 1>thought of was chimpanzee. But I thought there must be
<v Speaker 1>something wrong with him because he have you ever seen
<v Speaker 1>people who have like rose sha really bad and their
<v Speaker 1>nose gets kind of bubbly, you know, and big.
<v Speaker 2>That's what his nose looked like. It was a it
<v Speaker 2>was a big nose. It was gray.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not seeing it look like it had like rose
<v Speaker 1>sha or anything, but it was.
<v Speaker 2>Big. It didn't look I mean.
<v Speaker 1>His face did not really look like a chimpanzee, but
<v Speaker 1>his body kind of did.
<v Speaker 2>If it was a really big, big chimpanzee.
<v Speaker 1>Like the expression on his face, like he had an
<v Speaker 1>expression and he looked scared and like he was in
<v Speaker 1>pain because he was definitely holding his left arm with
<v Speaker 1>his right arm and like you know how if you
<v Speaker 1>would hurt your elbow, you would grab a hold of
<v Speaker 1>it and kind of hold it to you.
<v Speaker 2>That's what he was he was doing.
<v Speaker 1>And he was running like fast. But if we were
<v Speaker 1>to run and hold our elbows, you know, we'd kind
<v Speaker 1>of bounce, right, And he didn't do that. It was
<v Speaker 1>just really slick kind of the way he ran.
<v Speaker 3>No bounce, no bounce.
<v Speaker 1>But his so like when I when you know, when
<v Speaker 1>the first play of the Apes movies came out, Like
<v Speaker 1>when I saw Caesar, it freaked me the hell out
<v Speaker 1>because he looked like that, not so much a chimpanzee.
<v Speaker 1>Is the expressions that he had on his face, right, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>And I did feel sorry for him.
<v Speaker 3>Like if we're just using that movie for instance, Caesar
<v Speaker 3>similar type hair head shape, all that stuff.
<v Speaker 2>His head was round, I know that.
<v Speaker 1>And his hair like his hair was and it was
<v Speaker 1>hair like you know, it wasn't like fuzzy or fur
<v Speaker 1>or anything. And it was either a very dark brown
<v Speaker 1>or black, but he was there. There's a lot of
<v Speaker 1>trees there, so he was kind of running to the
<v Speaker 1>shade and the sun was just coming up, so I
<v Speaker 1>couldn't really make out for sure whether it was.
<v Speaker 2>Brown or black.
<v Speaker 3>So this was early morning, and he.
<v Speaker 1>Like his shoulders were huge, and his hair was all
<v Speaker 1>over his body, but it was thin, like you could
<v Speaker 1>see through it. You could see muscles, you could see
<v Speaker 1>skin under there, and the skin on his face and
<v Speaker 1>his hands. It was darker than the skin on his
<v Speaker 1>chest and his belly. It was it was still a
<v Speaker 1>gray color, but it didn't seem to be as dark.
<v Speaker 3>Now did you mention this or ask anybody else on
<v Speaker 3>the base after this event?
<v Speaker 1>No, Well, after after I got out of the hospital,
<v Speaker 1>they started to discharge me because they didn't think I
<v Speaker 1>would be because the unit I was in they were
<v Speaker 1>going to send straight to Iraq as soon as they graduated,
<v Speaker 1>so they didn't think I would be able to go
<v Speaker 1>in at that point. It was fine with me. I
<v Speaker 1>did after I talked to the nurse and she was real,
<v Speaker 1>real grumpy about things I just didn't say. I thought, well,
<v Speaker 1>maybe you know, I they must have animal testing and
<v Speaker 1>it must be a secret.
<v Speaker 3>So this is not something you should continue asking about. Yes,
<v Speaker 3>So at what point did it click for you that, hey,
<v Speaker 3>maybe that was a bigfoot.
<v Speaker 2>Oh?
<v Speaker 1>It took a while, I you know, I think maybe
<v Speaker 1>two or three years later, because my ex husband he
<v Speaker 1>had seen bigfoot before and he you know, we have
<v Speaker 1>a word for it in our language, and that's just
<v Speaker 1>the word that we always used for it.
<v Speaker 2>So he'd seen it before. And we we.
<v Speaker 1>Go to ceremonial grounds and there are oftentimes people and
<v Speaker 1>things to keep others out who shouldn't be there. So
<v Speaker 1>he was very knowledgeable, knowledge knowledgeable about those things. And
<v Speaker 1>I guess it clicked in my head when I had
<v Speaker 1>asked him what is that over there one night when
<v Speaker 1>we were at a dance, and he was like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll talk about it later. And then later
<v Speaker 1>he told me that sometimes they come to the dances. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>they don't, you know, as far as I know, they
<v Speaker 1>don't come in and dance, but they are there.
<v Speaker 3>That is something I have heard before, is it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when we do our dances, it is in places
<v Speaker 1>that most people wouldn't know how to get there.
<v Speaker 2>You have to be invited.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's way often, you know, way off in
<v Speaker 1>the woods.
<v Speaker 2>I tell you one time I went to one.
<v Speaker 1>Up in the Cherokees area, and you know, it was
<v Speaker 1>I saw some things out there and it was pretty creepy,
<v Speaker 1>but you know they were something was in the woods
<v Speaker 1>whistling and you know, making all kinds of noise, and
<v Speaker 1>then you.
<v Speaker 2>Know, once things got started, it kind of calmed down.
<v Speaker 1>But it was you know, the rule that you didn't
<v Speaker 1>go out there to try to look for what that
<v Speaker 1>was just left him alone.
<v Speaker 3>So what was the overall belief with the Creek and Bigfoot?
<v Speaker 3>Did they feel that it was a good thing or
<v Speaker 3>a bad thing.
<v Speaker 1>Well, what I just told you about is the first
<v Speaker 1>time I've the only time I've seen one close up.
<v Speaker 1>But that's not the only time I've seen one. But
<v Speaker 1>we still have our healers involved with us, so I
<v Speaker 1>go to him when I need him. Yeah, and you
<v Speaker 1>know I have been told by not only him, but
<v Speaker 1>an elder that you know they're you know, we don't
<v Speaker 1>can really consider or at least the people I've spoken to,
<v Speaker 1>you don't really consider them to be animals, right, and
<v Speaker 1>you don't do anything to them that you don't want
<v Speaker 1>them to do to you. So like if you run
<v Speaker 1>into one if you're fishing or something, you know, you
<v Speaker 1>you leave your fish there and then because if you
<v Speaker 1>take a step back, they'll do what you do, so
<v Speaker 1>they'll step back or you know, have been told not
<v Speaker 1>to look in their eyes. It's just something that we've
<v Speaker 1>always lived with. I believe in even now where I live.
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's in the woods and it's dark, and
<v Speaker 1>one of my grand babies, you know, has I had
<v Speaker 1>gone to our healer. I don't really want to say
<v Speaker 1>medicine man, because that doesn't that's not the right word.
<v Speaker 1>But I had gone to him for something else. And
<v Speaker 1>the way he works is he's old, but you don't
<v Speaker 1>I don't ask him, you know, direct questions. But I
<v Speaker 1>was going to and it's like he knew what I
<v Speaker 1>was gonna ask him, because like we have big dogs
<v Speaker 1>out here, you know, because we have farm animals, and
<v Speaker 1>the dogs had started cowering, you know, under the bedroom window.
<v Speaker 2>We could hear him.
<v Speaker 1>Crying, you know, and my my grandchild was scared.
<v Speaker 2>Before I even got to he said to me.
<v Speaker 1>That boy knows that something is out there, but it's
<v Speaker 1>it's just there watching.
<v Speaker 2>You know.
<v Speaker 1>It's not going to hurt you. It's not going to
<v Speaker 1>hurt the dogs. It's just there. It's just watching, and
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, I don't want to watch. I'm a little
<v Speaker 1>scared about it myself, you know, especially if they're all
<v Speaker 1>that the size, the size of the one I saw, So.
<v Speaker 3>Do you think it was coming up to like the
<v Speaker 3>windows or anything.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it came into the yard. I've seen
<v Speaker 1>a trackway in the snow in the so we the
<v Speaker 1>way the yard, the front yard of the house is
<v Speaker 1>is there's probably about oh, there's like maybe twenty yards
<v Speaker 1>in the house.
<v Speaker 2>There's a.
<v Speaker 1>Chain link fence, and then another twenty or thirty yards
<v Speaker 1>you know, is like barbed wire. So the main chain
<v Speaker 1>link fence is where the dogs kind of stay unless
<v Speaker 1>we need them to go out and you fight off predators.
<v Speaker 1>And we saw in the snow, probably maybe about five
<v Speaker 1>years ago, a trackway across the front you know, in
<v Speaker 1>between the fences in the snow.
<v Speaker 2>So we have pictures of that somewhere.
<v Speaker 3>Huge, but it's respecting the boundaries and the dogs are behaving.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the dogs don't want any part of that, so
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're around we do, hear, Okay, the
<v Speaker 1>first time I heard a scream, it scared me to
<v Speaker 1>death because I it sounds like there's like three vocal cords.
<v Speaker 1>It sounded like like a dinosaur, you know, it sounded
<v Speaker 1>like a dinosaur kind of yeah, And I was like,
<v Speaker 1>what the you know, every dog in the county got
<v Speaker 1>the heck out of there at that point. You know,
<v Speaker 1>we hear hoops all the time. We hear what sounds
<v Speaker 1>like really big big men, you know, screaming really loud, far.
<v Speaker 2>Often up close.
<v Speaker 3>Do you hear talking?
<v Speaker 2>I have not heard talking.
<v Speaker 1>We have, you know, of course I have the the
<v Speaker 1>tradition not you know, nobody better go outside and whistle
<v Speaker 1>at night anyway, right, but there, you know there are whistles.
<v Speaker 1>So I haven't seen I don't think that because we
<v Speaker 1>have baby, you know, baby animal that we keep.
<v Speaker 2>Inside the yard until they.
<v Speaker 1>Get big enough to go out into the pasture, just
<v Speaker 1>because of that, just in case, just in case.
<v Speaker 2>So I don't think they're getting in the yard.
<v Speaker 1>But I do know, Matt, that we went to we
<v Speaker 1>were going to buy some more land just last year,
<v Speaker 1>closer to Lake Ufalla, and so you know, this land
<v Speaker 1>had been abandoned for a while. There was a burnt
<v Speaker 1>down structure. It was cheap and you know how land
<v Speaker 1>has gotten in the past few years.
<v Speaker 3>Here, especially anywhere near a lake.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and it was you know, if you looked down
<v Speaker 1>the road it was on, you could see the lake
<v Speaker 1>from there. And it really wasn't built up. There weren't
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of people around. It was just that
<v Speaker 1>piece of land. So we go out there and are
<v Speaker 1>looking it over. It had a little loafing shed, it
<v Speaker 1>had a pond that needed to be cleaned out and everything,
<v Speaker 1>and we thought, well, this is this is good.
<v Speaker 2>We like this, you know, we can at least put
<v Speaker 2>animals here or you know something.
<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't. It's not too far from this house.
<v Speaker 1>So we decided to bring the grandkids out with us.
<v Speaker 1>The next time. We go out there, and all of
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, kids quiet. There's no other than the ticks
<v Speaker 1>crawling and everybody, you know, there's no sound.
<v Speaker 2>There's no I don't remember any wind or anything like that.
<v Speaker 1>And it was hot, it was summertime, and we all
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden we hear rock clacking.
<v Speaker 2>Uh. And I looked at my partner and.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, did you hear that? And he's like, yep.
<v Speaker 1>And so my oldest grandchild heard it. And she was
<v Speaker 1>out of there. She was like, you know, don't you
<v Speaker 1>have to have films to clack rocks together?
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so she quick one.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she got in the truck and so I started
<v Speaker 1>backing up. But when I did, we start kind of
<v Speaker 1>just you know, taking pictures, just snapping pictures, and we
<v Speaker 1>did see what looked like a face, but it could
<v Speaker 1>have been paradiy because it's really grown up in that area.
<v Speaker 2>So we decided to pass on that land.
<v Speaker 3>Probably a wise choice.
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. That's what I thought too.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's there's so many people that are like, oh,
<v Speaker 3>I want to see one so bad, and I would
<v Speaker 3>love if there was bigfoot on my property and everything.
<v Speaker 3>But honestly, most of the people that I've ever talked
<v Speaker 3>to that have them on their property, they don't like it.
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, the medicine man says to me that
<v Speaker 1>that he thinks that my youngest grandchild has away with things, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and knows things that he doesn't really know how to
<v Speaker 1>tell us about yet. And you know, I don't want
<v Speaker 1>to take a chance that that's why.
<v Speaker 2>Things are here to watch, you know.
<v Speaker 1>So and he's he's not about to be outside after
<v Speaker 1>darket either. And he's a rough little guy. He likes
<v Speaker 1>to play outside everything else. But once it starts getting dark,
<v Speaker 1>he's in the house. He's got the drapes closed, and
<v Speaker 1>he's not. You know, it's too bad for me if
<v Speaker 1>I need him to help me carry on groceries, and
<v Speaker 1>I don't like to be outside after dark.
<v Speaker 2>In fact, I will wait until my partner.
<v Speaker 1>I'll wait at the store until my partner you know,
<v Speaker 1>comes home in the wintertime, and drive home together because
<v Speaker 1>I'm not you know.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I.
<v Speaker 1>Can't say that I was afraid of the first one
<v Speaker 1>that I saw, but I wouldn't want to be in
<v Speaker 1>front of something that big, just in case.
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, I think it's also a little bit
<v Speaker 3>different whenever you're someplace and you know that you can
<v Speaker 3>leave there and it's going to stay there, hopefully, But
<v Speaker 3>whenever you're at your house, I mean, where are you
<v Speaker 3>going to go?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>For real, we deer hut out here, and I won't
<v Speaker 1>look at the trail cam pictures just in case, because
<v Speaker 1>if I see something then I'm out.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean, has he experienced anything out there?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, And he's you know, he's he's retired military
<v Speaker 1>from Special Forces, so he it takes a lot to
<v Speaker 1>get him all, you know, flustered or you can't even
<v Speaker 1>jump scare him. So he's just like, well, you know,
<v Speaker 1>he's lived out here a lot longer than I have.
<v Speaker 1>And he says, oh yeah, you know sometimes we hear that,
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh really, uh yeah, like, oh yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it happens all times of the day. You know, We've
<v Speaker 1>noticed a lot towards the evening time, but it can
<v Speaker 1>happen in the middle of the daytime. There is a
<v Speaker 1>lake close by, and they had a concert a few
<v Speaker 1>years ago, and we just kind of made We're sitting
<v Speaker 1>out on the front porch and kind of made the joke,
<v Speaker 1>well that's going to piss him off, and it did,
<v Speaker 1>because there was hollering all night after that.
<v Speaker 2>I have seen Okay, you're gonna love this one.
<v Speaker 1>So a close friend and I were driving from Tulsa
<v Speaker 1>to Bartlesville on Highway seventy five. Now, when you get
<v Speaker 1>past Oschleda before you get into Bartlesville, there's like a
<v Speaker 1>small I don't know whether it's a river or a
<v Speaker 1>creek or whatever. You know, you pass over that and
<v Speaker 1>then to the left hand side, so the west side
<v Speaker 1>of the road is a field. It's got some of
<v Speaker 1>the coond trees in it, you know, it's kind of
<v Speaker 1>its bottom land. Well, there's also a pond there. So
<v Speaker 1>we're driving on Highway seventy five and actually she was driving,
<v Speaker 1>and I was, you know, looking around, because I'm always
<v Speaker 1>looking around, you know, But there were a lot of
<v Speaker 1>geese on this pond, and all of a sudden we
<v Speaker 1>see this figure burst out of the trees, headed towards
<v Speaker 1>that pond where the geese are, okay, so fast. And
<v Speaker 1>our first thought was I was like, look at that,
<v Speaker 1>What the hell? And she said, that man's huge. Now, okay,
<v Speaker 1>so it wasn't goose season, it wasn't duck season, it
<v Speaker 1>wasn't any kind of season.
<v Speaker 2>And we thought at first we thought this man, you know,
<v Speaker 2>isn't a gilly suit.
<v Speaker 1>And then we could tell that it was not a
<v Speaker 1>man because it was huge. It got all the way
<v Speaker 1>to the pond before the geese got the heck out
<v Speaker 1>of there, and he did.
<v Speaker 2>Not catch one.
<v Speaker 1>So stood there for a second, you know, because we
<v Speaker 1>had slowed down. Stood there for a second, and then
<v Speaker 1>he took off back into the trees. So my friend
<v Speaker 1>is native American too, and so she was like that
<v Speaker 1>was that was the big man, and I was like
<v Speaker 1>it was. So We're like, well, okay, so let's try
<v Speaker 1>to debunk this. So we got off of the highway
<v Speaker 1>and tried to find, you know, any like their roads
<v Speaker 1>around that area, if somebody had maybe parked, you know,
<v Speaker 1>their truck and they were actually hunting when they weren't
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be. But clear's day right there, and it
<v Speaker 1>was probably ten o'clock.
<v Speaker 3>In the morning, just off the side of the highway, yep.
<v Speaker 2>And that's I saw another one off the side of
<v Speaker 2>the highway. It was in June of twenty twenty three.
<v Speaker 1>I was headed to the Lake of the Ozarks for
<v Speaker 1>work with my boss and just probably I don't know
<v Speaker 1>how far east of Joplin we were, but I was
<v Speaker 1>in the passenger seat. On the right hand side of
<v Speaker 1>the road. There was a field and they had been
<v Speaker 1>There were round bells out there, you know, are freshly cut,
<v Speaker 1>and I see someone stand up on the other side
<v Speaker 1>of a round bel Now I was not close, but
<v Speaker 1>this person, you know it you know how tall round bells.
<v Speaker 3>Are, Yeah, they're huge, and.
<v Speaker 2>He I mean it looked like he had I've.
<v Speaker 1>Heard this before, but that's just I just have to
<v Speaker 1>say it, because that's what it looked like. It looked
<v Speaker 1>like there was a huge, huge person out there in
<v Speaker 1>a black hoodie in the middle of June. You know,
<v Speaker 1>it was probably about five o'clock in the evening, and
<v Speaker 1>he stood up from behind that round veil and just
<v Speaker 1>started walking off. And I could see past his well
<v Speaker 1>almost down. Knew his abs when you.
<v Speaker 3>Stood up, like lower stomach area.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, you know, I did a double take,
<v Speaker 1>and you know, she was like, what are you looking at?
<v Speaker 2>And I was like.
<v Speaker 1>That, and she was like, well, that's a big man.
<v Speaker 1>I was like that, I don't.
<v Speaker 2>Think that's a man. You know. Of course he's like okay,
<v Speaker 2>and only went you know.
<v Speaker 3>Round bells depending on the bailer and all that, or
<v Speaker 3>anywhere from we'll say four to six feet tall. So
<v Speaker 3>and I was like five feet tall coming up to
<v Speaker 3>your mid stomach, your lower stomach area, I mean that
<v Speaker 3>would put it at least seven to eight feet tall.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, that's a big man.
<v Speaker 2>He was. You know, he was in no hurry.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what he was doing behind the round
<v Speaker 1>bell but you know, and that's you know, a major
<v Speaker 1>highway there, you know, just like Highway seventy five is.
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't concerned. He just started walking off towards the woodline, and.
<v Speaker 3>Your boss just passed it off mentally as just some
<v Speaker 3>big guy.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because that's all I said. I was like, okay,
<v Speaker 2>so when.
<v Speaker 3>We went I mean, I think that happens a lot.
<v Speaker 3>You know, you were talking about them like coming around
<v Speaker 3>the dances and everything, which I know with pretty good
<v Speaker 3>certainty that their relationship with natives is different than just
<v Speaker 3>a typical person. Obviously if that's due to history or
<v Speaker 3>you know, who knows why, but that's the way it is.
<v Speaker 3>I think that they've had relationships sort of lived in
<v Speaker 3>harmony with one another for a long time. But it
<v Speaker 3>seems like there's just certain ones at least that just
<v Speaker 3>don't care and are aware that the humans aren't really
<v Speaker 3>going to pay attention to them.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I think that, you know, I think that they they
<v Speaker 1>are smart enough to know that you know, these people
<v Speaker 1>gone by in these cars when they're not going to
<v Speaker 1>look right or two, they are not going to take
<v Speaker 1>the time to turn around and see if that was
<v Speaker 1>a you know, eight foot farmer in a black hoodie
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of June, you know, on the side
<v Speaker 1>of the road.
<v Speaker 3>And I mean by the time you got turned around
<v Speaker 3>in everything, it's going to be long gone anyways.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, because it was it.
<v Speaker 1>You know, by the time she looked said, that's a
<v Speaker 1>big guy, he was already almost to the woodline. And
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how far that was, you know, I
<v Speaker 1>was quite a ways from him. I couldn't far enough
<v Speaker 1>that I couldn't see any features, just you know, this
<v Speaker 1>big black or dark colored figure.
<v Speaker 2>So and I think, you know, I've heard.
<v Speaker 1>People say that that sometimes that people who have had
<v Speaker 1>some you know, some interaction are marked or whatever. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I think that for personally, for me, I'm just always
<v Speaker 1>looking because I know, I know that they're out there,
<v Speaker 1>and that's why I see things. It's because i'm looking.
<v Speaker 1>I'm even when i'm driving, I'm looking.
<v Speaker 3>Deer Hunters have a lot easier time spotting deer than
<v Speaker 3>non deer hunters. Yeah, and I think it's sort of
<v Speaker 3>like that. I think once it's clipped in your brain
<v Speaker 3>that they're out there and you've seen one, it's easier
<v Speaker 3>for you to notice them. Do you think that there's
<v Speaker 3>anything that people would consider paranormal about them or do
<v Speaker 3>you think they're just another living creature like a deer.
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I I am someone who believes in
<v Speaker 1>strange things happening and in the paranormal. I know, for me,
<v Speaker 1>I know that that stuff is real and can happen.
<v Speaker 1>But anything that I've seen look like, you know, I've
<v Speaker 1>seen tracks, I've seen you know, I've heard noises. But
<v Speaker 1>like those tracks in the snow that we had in
<v Speaker 1>the in the front yard. They started at the edge
<v Speaker 1>of you know, a gravel driveway. Now there was snow everywhere,
<v Speaker 1>clear snow. They started there and there was snow, you know,
<v Speaker 1>on the gravel. They started there, they went to my
<v Speaker 1>fence where my piglets were, and then that's all those
<v Speaker 1>tracks on the other side of the fence. There's no
<v Speaker 1>tree there. So I you know, I think they can
<v Speaker 1>do things, just like you know, between me and you,
<v Speaker 1>I think that there's some people that can do things.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would one percent agree with that.
<v Speaker 1>There are there are people who know old ways in
<v Speaker 1>things that many many people have forgotten, and so why
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't they.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's something I've talked about recently actually with
<v Speaker 3>someone one of my friends, about how I think that
<v Speaker 3>it's just more of a case of there's probably some
<v Speaker 3>out there, just like humans, that may have abilities or
<v Speaker 3>knowledge of things that others don't. There might be one
<v Speaker 3>who can just make its tracks look like they disappear,
<v Speaker 3>and there might be some that run through a military
<v Speaker 3>base holding their arm because they're hurt, you.
<v Speaker 2>Know, yeah, bless his heart.
<v Speaker 1>See you know, like my grandparents were from southeastern Oklahoma,
<v Speaker 1>all right, and yeah, so we never really specifically and
<v Speaker 1>talked sat down and talked about Bigfoot.
<v Speaker 2>They were just.
<v Speaker 1>Country really, it's but they had nicknames for things that
<v Speaker 1>they had, Like something would come through the middle of
<v Speaker 1>their little town sometimes at night, scream and bloody, murder
<v Speaker 1>all the way through town and keep writing into the woods, right,
<v Speaker 1>you know. They they called that like uh, yahoo and
<v Speaker 1>something else.
<v Speaker 2>There was another word that my grandmother used to use for.
<v Speaker 3>That, Yeah I heard before.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can't remember, but you know, so I'm pretty
<v Speaker 1>sure that's probably what that was.
<v Speaker 2>You know.
<v Speaker 1>My grandpa would say, oh, no, that was a cat,
<v Speaker 1>you know, but my grandma was like, no, that wasn't
<v Speaker 1>a cat that you know.
<v Speaker 3>What's wrong with you? You know what that was? My
<v Speaker 3>granny she used to just give me hell. You know,
<v Speaker 3>Relatives would come over and do you know what Matt's doing.
<v Speaker 3>He's going out there looking for those big feet, you know,
<v Speaker 3>and she just thought it was so funny, you know,
<v Speaker 3>like what is wrong with you? Have you lost it?
<v Speaker 1>You know?
<v Speaker 3>And then you know, I saw one. So there was
<v Speaker 3>that whole thing because she was outside of a few
<v Speaker 3>people that were there at the time. Whenever I got
<v Speaker 3>back home, she was, you know, the first person I told.
<v Speaker 3>And you know, that was a very emotional conversation because
<v Speaker 3>I was processing all of it and unpacking it and
<v Speaker 3>you know, like, holy crap, these things are real, you know,
<v Speaker 3>dealing with that. And after a while, I don't remember
<v Speaker 3>what it was, but at some point in time I
<v Speaker 3>said something about a booger. I referred to them as
<v Speaker 3>a booker, and her eyes got big and she said, well, boogers.
<v Speaker 3>I know what boogers are. And I thought she's going
<v Speaker 3>to make some joke, because that's how she was. And
<v Speaker 3>I said, oh, do you And she was like, are
<v Speaker 3>you telling me that bigfoot is the same thing as
<v Speaker 3>a booger? I grew up with the Those are the
<v Speaker 3>old hairy men that live up in the mountains, and
<v Speaker 3>she knew exactly what they were. And it turned out
<v Speaker 3>one year at Thanksgiving, another uncle of mine kind of
<v Speaker 3>got me cornered off by myself and he told me,
<v Speaker 3>he said, so I heard you go out looking for sasquatch.
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, uh, yeah, here it comes, like,
<v Speaker 3>get to hear it from you now. Well, it turns
<v Speaker 3>out that he used to go out looking for him
<v Speaker 3>whenever he was young, and my great great grandmother who
<v Speaker 3>passed away whenever I was like a year and a half.
<v Speaker 3>So it was like his great grandmother growing up. She
<v Speaker 3>had a sighting one whenever. They lived in the you know,
<v Speaker 3>the hills of the Ozarks in Arkansas. And one night
<v Speaker 3>they heard a big ruckus outside I think it was
<v Speaker 3>raining or something. They had a bunch of hogs and
<v Speaker 3>a pin out in front of the house they lived in,
<v Speaker 3>just like a little dirt floor cabin, and her husband
<v Speaker 3>grabbed the shotgun and she grabbed the wintern, and they
<v Speaker 3>went out there and one was standing at the pig
<v Speaker 3>pen and reached over and scooped up one of the
<v Speaker 3>pigs and put it under one arm and just walked
<v Speaker 3>off into the woods. They never fired a shot or anything.
<v Speaker 3>They just went back in the house. And she had
<v Speaker 3>told my uncle that story whenever he was young, and
<v Speaker 3>I guess my mom and her other siblings knew it too,
<v Speaker 3>but they never mentioned it to me, of course, but
<v Speaker 3>I just couldn't believe it. It was like some family bigfoot history.
<v Speaker 3>But here they're making fun of me all these years.
<v Speaker 2>And they don't want to talk about it.
<v Speaker 3>Huh, don't want to talk about it.
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing.
<v Speaker 1>As someone who has had experience to some pigs very recently.
<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine they able to pick one up and
<v Speaker 2>stick it under your arm and walk off with it. Yeah, Like,
<v Speaker 2>that's that's crazy.
<v Speaker 1>You know when things the batteries will go dead or
<v Speaker 1>car won't start or whatever. Well that's a thing because
<v Speaker 1>Dad told me about that in like nineteen eighty seven.
<v Speaker 1>So there is a trackway, but they knew that at
<v Speaker 1>a certain time of the evening, if you were driving
<v Speaker 1>down this road, you shouldn't go down this road because
<v Speaker 1>there was a light that came from east to west
<v Speaker 1>and it crossed the road and it took all the power,
<v Speaker 1>took all the you know. And one night he was
<v Speaker 1>out dicking around with his cousin that my grandparents were
<v Speaker 1>raising also and they were coming from the house and
<v Speaker 1>they've waited too late and the car died.
<v Speaker 2>You know. They were absolutely terrified because they could see the.
<v Speaker 1>Light coming and it came and went, and about thirty
<v Speaker 1>minutes later the car started up and they went on,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that is, and they don't know
<v Speaker 1>what it is.
<v Speaker 2>They just always had the you know.
<v Speaker 1>The history to stay away from there at that time.
<v Speaker 3>Those lights are so weird. There. There's one up by Miama.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, my sister has seen that one.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>I've talked to a couple of people. This girl I
<v Speaker 3>know lives up there, and her and her sister have
<v Speaker 3>you know, gone out and messed with it or whatever.
<v Speaker 3>And it's just some don't sit right with it.
<v Speaker 2>I know it's to me, it feels bad, you know.
<v Speaker 1>And I know you went out and looked for bigfoot,
<v Speaker 1>and I think you're freaking crazy for doing that.
<v Speaker 3>But I don't you know, I also quit going out
<v Speaker 3>and looking for bigfoot.
<v Speaker 1>I did. I do know that I've heard you said
<v Speaker 1>that people don't realize they're understanding in all ways. You know,
<v Speaker 1>if you hear scary stories and say it must be
<v Speaker 1>on a native burial ground.
<v Speaker 2>Well, this whole country is a native burial ground.
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, yeah, everybody is.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I mean, and there are certain spots where,
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think things are still there because they
<v Speaker 1>have to take care of the people.
<v Speaker 3>With that being said, there's definitely some sort of connection
<v Speaker 3>between the old burial grounds and them. They hang out
<v Speaker 3>there for whatever reason. I don't know what that reason is.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and other things too.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So speaking of other things, have you heard about
<v Speaker 3>anybody having any experiences with what people are now calling
<v Speaker 3>dog Man.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's bad, Okay, it's it's like you know, you
<v Speaker 1>know how with us if like with with you know, Bigfoot,
<v Speaker 1>it's like we.
<v Speaker 2>Know they're there.
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know what kind of relationship we
<v Speaker 1>had in the past, but if they're coming to the grounds,
<v Speaker 1>they're there to get medicine, and you know, you know
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Yeah, and we I've been told that
<v Speaker 1>they keep people because you know, there's rules when you
<v Speaker 1>go out there, like you can't be drinking, so they
<v Speaker 1>help you keep people out that aren't supposed to be there.
<v Speaker 1>So that because you know, like for us, if we
<v Speaker 1>do our green corn, you know, in June or July
<v Speaker 1>that's new year for us. And also how we you know,
<v Speaker 1>we ask God to make the upcoming year good.
<v Speaker 2>Right, right, So it's important that things go the way
<v Speaker 2>they're supposed to go.
<v Speaker 1>And I have no idea how things, you know, I
<v Speaker 1>don't know what everybody's saying when they're singing, you know,
<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff.
<v Speaker 2>But my son, he he went.
<v Speaker 1>To a different ceremonial ground than what we're used to
<v Speaker 1>going to, and he's saw something like that, like, I
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I don't think we have a word
<v Speaker 1>for dog man, or if we do. I've never heard
<v Speaker 1>anything like that. But he saw two different things. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>he saw a very big dog that would appear and disappear,
<v Speaker 1>you know, and you know the elders that were like,
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, he's he's you know, he's keeping people out right.
<v Speaker 1>But then he also saw something that looks like a
<v Speaker 1>dog man, right, And and that has always been my
<v Speaker 1>You know, how you're when you're a little girl or
<v Speaker 1>or a little boy, you're afraid of things, right, And
<v Speaker 1>I tried to rationalize, you know, well, how are you.
<v Speaker 2>Going to kill a were wolf?
<v Speaker 3>Right?
<v Speaker 1>Nobody's got silver bullets hanging around if you hide in
<v Speaker 1>the house.
<v Speaker 2>It can smell you, you know, all that stuff. So
<v Speaker 2>that was that's like the.
<v Speaker 1>Thing that I'm scared of, Like that's the worst thing
<v Speaker 1>he could ever see. So he did see that, And
<v Speaker 1>I have heard of people seeing those things. Some of
<v Speaker 1>them look like coyote, which really coyotes.
<v Speaker 2>Freaking freaked me out.
<v Speaker 1>Like I know they're small and they're you know, we
<v Speaker 1>have them a lot of them around here, but I
<v Speaker 1>don't like them.
<v Speaker 2>They give me the creeps.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're scary.
<v Speaker 2>I know.
<v Speaker 1>I will almost really see bigfoot than a pack of
<v Speaker 1>coyotes for sure. Well I'll tell you what my youngest
<v Speaker 1>son saw at my house. We hadn't lived there very long.
<v Speaker 1>It is my younger son. He's four years younger, so
<v Speaker 1>he he was probably fourteen or fifteen, I think.
<v Speaker 2>And my house backs.
<v Speaker 1>Up to woods to straight woods and then a pasture.
<v Speaker 1>So and it's this little neighborhood. There's like it's like
<v Speaker 1>a horseshoe and I'm on the bottom of the horseshoe.
<v Speaker 1>And at that time, there weren't very many other houses
<v Speaker 1>in the neighborhood. But we had just gotten street lights,
<v Speaker 1>which I wasn't happy about. So he they used to
<v Speaker 1>get up on the on the roof you know where,
<v Speaker 1>because we used to have a big Fourth of July celebration.
<v Speaker 1>Like some of them families down there had lots of
<v Speaker 1>oil money and so they would pay for it, and
<v Speaker 1>that's they would get and the boys would get up
<v Speaker 1>on the roof of the house and watch. So had
<v Speaker 1>decided to go on the roof of the house. And
<v Speaker 1>it was, you know, after dark, and I was, I
<v Speaker 1>don't know, in the house, probably reading something, and he
<v Speaker 1>sees what he thinks is a coyote come trotting down
<v Speaker 1>that road.
<v Speaker 2>No, we hadn't at that time.
<v Speaker 1>There weren't too many houses in the neighborhood, and we
<v Speaker 1>had a next door neighbor on both sides. And so
<v Speaker 1>he sees this coyote go behind our next door neighbor's house,
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I said, we just got in street lights.
<v Speaker 1>And then like so he's looking at it and deciding
<v Speaker 1>whether he needs to get down off the house and running,
<v Speaker 1>and decided to stay up there because it can't climb right.
<v Speaker 2>Well.
<v Speaker 1>The next thing he knows, you know, about four feet up,
<v Speaker 1>a hand like a raccoon grabs a hole of the
<v Speaker 1>side of our neighbor's house, and the head that kind
<v Speaker 1>of he's head peeked around, oh and looked at him. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>it was standing up, you know, and so he was like,
<v Speaker 1>I hear this blood curling scream, like mom. So I
<v Speaker 1>ran outside, and of course I can't find him because
<v Speaker 1>the little butt head's on the roof, right yeah.
<v Speaker 2>But of course when I got out there, it wasn't there.
<v Speaker 2>And even to this day, he you know, if he
<v Speaker 2>takes it.
<v Speaker 1>He's got a pit bull named Obie that he rescued,
<v Speaker 1>and he is in his thirties now. He if he
<v Speaker 1>goes back behind the house in the woods, he's back
<v Speaker 1>before it gets dark. So I don't know what that was,
<v Speaker 1>but it shouldn't have been there.
<v Speaker 3>That's kind of like one of my concerns with all this,
<v Speaker 3>because you hear stories about dog man. I've never seen one.
<v Speaker 3>Don't want to see one. I'm like you, I grew
<v Speaker 3>up calling that idea werewolf and they eat people, so
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to have anything to do with it.
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, also growing up in Oklahoma, I mean,
<v Speaker 3>there's several different possibilities to what he saw that night.
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of possibilities, right, Yeah, So the first
<v Speaker 1>thing I did was.
<v Speaker 2>Contact the medicine man. I got some stuff to put
<v Speaker 2>around the house.
<v Speaker 1>He now, this is the only time he ever did this,
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't ask him why, but because I don't,
<v Speaker 1>I don't question him. But he gave me a knife
<v Speaker 1>that he'd done something to and he told me to
<v Speaker 1>put it under the doormat facing you know, outwards, like
<v Speaker 1>to point out.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And then he gave me some tobacco, uh for evening
<v Speaker 1>or morning and evening. And then he told us to
<v Speaker 1>stay out of the damn woods. And then he asked
<v Speaker 1>me who I pissed off?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So he kind of thought that, you know, mm hmm.
<v Speaker 3>Option number two.
<v Speaker 2>Yep.
<v Speaker 1>His thought was it was something you know that we
<v Speaker 1>don't want to say. Yeah, just coming to check out
<v Speaker 1>the house because we hadn't live there very long, just
<v Speaker 1>to see where we live.
<v Speaker 3>Again. I appreciate it. I'm glad you reached out.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, this holler whenever, and thank you so much for
<v Speaker 1>letting me talk about my bigfoot or what I guess.
<v Speaker 2>He's a big fit to me, you know, Fort Leonard would,
<v Speaker 2>so I appreciate it.
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