Brittish Williams Speaks Out in Exclusive Post Prison Interview

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Speaker 2: British Williams.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Carlos, I'm so happy to see you.

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Speaker 2: You look amazing.

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Speaker 4: You.

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Speaker 1: You know the last time we chatted, you know, before you had to turn yourself in. We'll get into that later, but remember I was saying to you, like you're really pretty.

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Speaker 2: You're like thank you, Yes, you look even better now.

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Speaker 4: Everybody you know what. I don't know if I should be offended telling me that, or how I should feel about it, but I agree, I appreciate it, and I think I'm just I'm a different person a little bit now a lot. Honestly.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, listen, serving time in prison, and you served for two years? Right?

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Speaker 2: Two years? How many months?

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Speaker 4: Nineteen months?

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Speaker 2: Two years and nine?

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Speaker 4: No, two years and nicety ball when you do I don't know time? You do it months? It's like, you know, I had forty I got a forty eight month sins, but I only have to do nineteen months of it. Then I did four months on house arrest.

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Speaker 2: So we'll get into that in a second.

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Speaker 1: But my point is, of course that situation, I hope it would have changed you. So before we get into the particulars, I just want to ask you, like, how are you doing.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing really good. I'm not gonna lie and tell you that I don't have like social anxiety a little bit. Sometimes I'm like, ooh, it's too much stimulation. Like my daughter says, Mom, I'm overstimulated. So I've started being like, maybe I've over stimulated.

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Speaker 2: Oh is she saying that?

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Speaker 4: She's like Okay, this is too much. The dog is over stimulating me, and I'm like what. So I'm kind of at a point where sometimes like a lot of loud noises is a lot for me, or sometimes where it's like people talking to me all at one time, I'm like, oh, I need like a break. Like I've really learned how to use what I call my exit strategy when I think I'm a little bit too overwhelmed. So I still get a lot more over them now than I used to. I think is that it used to being back into the society and the.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's all. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well look, I have to say this, and I do want you to hear this from me as well, and a lot of people do feel this way. Obviously, you did the crime, and you did your time right, and I don't believe in judging anybody when it comes to that, because that's not my ministry. However, what I would like to say is we're happy you're home. So let's go back to listen our interview. You shed so much light on your situation. Not to get into the weeds of it, because we've already talked about that, but obviously you know you were you were sentenced of four years in federal prison where you did played guilty of fifteen counts of felony. Right, some of the things included, you know, things with irs and loans and all the other stuff. I'm not going to read all of that because that's the past. But you were sentenced to four years. Your judge immediately God, you, judge, I'm sorry. Your attorney immediately released a statement saying that the four year sentence was egregious and he felt that you weren't being sentenced for the crime you did. You were being sentenced for being a celebrity who did the crime. At that time when you were sentenced to four years, did you also feel like, listen, I played guilty, so clearly I did something wrong.

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Speaker 2: But did you feel that four years worth too much? Then?

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Speaker 4: I did?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I did?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 4: Okay, Now I've come to a point where I have taken full accountability for my actions. I've come to a point where as I really shit and became these new layers of myself, shared those layers to become the new version of myself. I've realized that there were a lot of things about me that needed to change, and I don't think that those things would have been able to change if I had not went to prison. Prison gave me this new outlook on life. It gave me so much humility. I was able to see other people in different life. I was able to be with the people that I'm like, God, you went through that, or Oh my God, that happened to you. I was able to. Really, I've never had as much time in my life to be able just to have me time to myself, to be able to it sounds crazy, but to be honest with you, I never I never felt free until my freedom was taken away. And that's just the plain that to me.

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Speaker 1: I never felt free until my freedom was taken away.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I think what happened for me was that I learned to know myself again. I think I had got to a point where I wasn't living the reality star, I wasn't living in the reality of the world. I have my own way of thinking or the way that things should go, and not knowing that the rest of the world is not living how I'm living, or the rest of the world is not in that space that I'm in, and that I am totally ungrateful. I was so ungrateful, I was so entitled. I was that had no humility at all, none at all. I didn't and I am just at a point. I've read a book while I was in prison. It is Oprah's her her when she used to do her Soulful Sundays, but she would have her interviews and she took like a correlation to put all of these books together, like all these different interviews and put into a book. And something that I read was you have to learn how to take your taking, taking the things you put expectations and replacing them with appreciation. And that's something that I'm like literally lived by now. Even when it comes to my child, I'm like, okay, you need to appreciate that a little bit more, or like you're very spoiled, and I know it's our fault because we spoil her, but I need you to understand that people have way less than you and that those things can be taken away from you. Being able to be in prison, I went from you know, being able to do anything I thought I could want to do to being able to have to be the same as everyone else. It was wearing green uniforms, eating the same food. Like you you're you're stuck into what you're being told what to do, there's nothing you can do about it, and you're stuck in a place where you can't leave. And it just put me in a different space to where I am now, my health wise, Like when people say health is wealth, it's a real thing for me. Now. I work out six times a week. I'm with my track. Yes, I'm obsessed with working out.

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Speaker 1: I run.

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Speaker 4: It started off from being in prison. Weren't running on the track and going out to like we call it like going outside, like going on the track, and I would go and I would run, and I would go to the gym and I would just kind of work out. But now it's like it's a part of my lifestyle every day. Like this morning, I got up. I had't worke out in three days because it was my birthday this weekend, and I was like, getting up and go to the gym. I did. I did three and a half miles on a treadmill. I was like, yeah, I felt better, you know. So. I think it's just I really had to understand that the things that I thought were okay with me were not okay. Like I really wasn't entitled. Bitch's no other way around it. That's really how I felt, and I really went through counseling, and I went through a program in prison that really had me dig deep into who I was as a person and to dig deep into the people that I've affected in my life. And I don't think that I was able to look at those things from being able to be objective from all parties. I wasn't objective. I wasn't objective person at all. I always saw stuff how I wanted to see and what I thought was okay. And that's just not a way to be able to be to live your life, or to be able to be a part of the world if you want to actually make an impact on the world.

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Speaker 1: To me, that is beautiful because the thing is this, you are such a different woman than who I met, like almost two years ago, right because at that time, look, I'm just being real with you. I even felt that you were in denial about the things you did. Yeah, you know, and I, respectfully, of course, just wanted you to tell your truth. But I really was like, the reality hasn't hit her yet. And the beauty of your situation is you allow yourself to really deal with the ramifications of your actions.

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Speaker 2: So with that being said, can you walk.

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Speaker 1: Us through the first day you were in prison and what that was like, because, again in your words, not mine, here's this entitled bitch walking into.

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Speaker 2: Prison for the very first time.

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Speaker 4: Well, let's let let's take it back a step further.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think I was.

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Speaker 4: I was so entitled at the fact that I didn't even go self surrender on time because my lawyer told me, don't self surrender. It's fine, we're gonna put that pill in. They'll give you this, they'll give you that. Just totally in denial about what was going on, like I had to go to prisons like that is just what it was. And I didn't seb surrender on time. So a week later, the marshals came to my house. They didn't kick the door downs with they have marshals all around my house. They came, they arrest me. You have a federal warrant. You know you're supposed to be in prison this time, blah blah blah. And I was going to a camp at the time. I was going to Alderson Camp. And because I didn't go to camp, I was put behind the wall. So I was really in prison. I wasn't at camp. I was I was behind the wall in prison. So for nineteen months I did. I did all my time in prison, person not in camp.

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Speaker 1: Waste hold on because you did not self surrender. Your punishment was instead of going to camp, they said, Okay, since you did this, we're now going to.

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Speaker 4: Put a management variable on you and you're going to go to prison because that you're gonna go behind the wall because we have to make sure you're not gonna run because the camp you could just leave if you wanted to. Technically, I mean, listen, you gotta I am a firm believer in it doesn't matter what you do. Maybe not two years ago I didn't believe it, but you gotta pay for what you do. That's just what it is, and you have to end whatever whatever you put out in the world. People think karma is not a real thing, but karma is such a real thing. And I think that for me, I was thinking that oh, maybe I was doing all of this, or I was making I was doing these crimes. There wasn't really a big deal because all black people do it, and this and this and that, all these excuses, when in reality, all I had to do is walk on the straight and narrow and to understand that God has given me so many blessings. He's given me so many opportunities. He's put me in position, and he keeps giving it to me, and he keeps giving it to me. He keeps giving it to me. He's like, Okay, I'm gonna get the ball again. Let me see if you're gonna balance it?

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Speaker 1: Are you?

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Speaker 4: Are you?

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Speaker 2: Are you?

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Speaker 4: Are you gonna balance it? Are you? And I think that if I wouldn't have set down and really gotten to the word of God and reading my Bible and reading so many different I've read so many books. I studied forty eight Laws of Power for nine months. Oh It's probably the horrible, most horrible thing that I've ever done, because now I dissect everything. I hate it. But it's like I just really was able to put my all into figuring out what my purpose was. And I think a lot a lot for me. I used to walk in how much why am I going to make? Or what am I going to do for this? And how much money is this going to take? And and now I just don't feel like that no more. Now it's like I'm walking in my purpose and whatever my purpose is that God has given me the money will come with it. That's just where I'm at with it. I've been trying to make decisions about starts. I'm like, I don't know if that really goes. I used to go with things against things that I thought was a part of my integrity, and now I refuse to do anything that I feel I could hinder my brand. And I can feel like that my daughter may look at me crazy for ten years from now. I'm just in a different space about how I do things. And I just think that no matter what, God is going to leave me in the right way and with his grace and his mercy, it's just nothing that I won't be able to accomplish with whatever it is that he wants me to do.

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Speaker 1: Now, what I want to do, I love that. Listen, everybody knows I'm very spiritual. So everything you're saying is gospel. I'm really loving this growth that I'm seeing with you. So what was prison like for you for those nineteen months? Oh?

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Speaker 4: My god? The first day in prison, I walked in, I got I took a bus across. We went from Oh, I flew we call it Conye. It was a private plane, but it wasn't my type of private plane.

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Speaker 2: No plush seats, honey, No.

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Speaker 4: They have you literally chained at your chain, in your at your at your hands, You're chained at your feet.

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Speaker 4: Be honest with you, And it's funny when you think about it, and when I really think about it, it's not funny because it's almost like you look like it's so many cause you're on there with me and it maybe like fifteen women in every the rest of the planet is nothing but men. It almost looks like slaves, like a slavery coming in and out. The planes are coming up, they're coming down, they're dropping them off, they dropping dow, theyre picking them up, they're ropping them down, and it's like so really sad to see because I'm watching like it's like to some of them it's their new normal, like they go to prison over and over again, and it's like they don't understand the capacity of what it is doing to their community or what is doing to their family. I think for me being in prison, it was like I walked in and I had to They put me in this unit and I had these bunks and I was like, this is the cover. The covers was brown covers with holes in them, and we had to figure out how to I learned how to jail. Though I learned. I learned how to jail. And but the first the first six months, I cried every single day I would want a shower, I would just cry. I wouldn't cry because I didn't want them to think I was weak, but I was crying to shower. I'm like, oh my god, I can't believe I'm here. Oh my god. I don't deserve it. Oh my god, oh my god. It was always it was always me telling myself for those first six months that this hit couldn't be happening to me, like I don't deserve this. So I got to the point where I had to really take accountability that British, I need you to understand that this is me talking to myself. You did something wrong. You need to take accountability for that. You need to pay the price, which is at the time of list, which the judge gave you was forty eight months. You have to do the time that he's given you. And it's weird because I told my probation officer, I was like, I really want to talk to my judge and have a conversation on him. And she was like what. I was like, yeah, I kind of want to thank him, you know, And she was like, write him a letter. He was like, he always wants to. They read all the letters. And I was like, I used to be so angry with him, like I thought that he like, I'm like, he doesn't have a heart. He's hardly She took me away from my daughter. He did this, and he said something to me when he sent it to me, and he said you, He said, you just told me in your letter that you knew what you were doing, and you did it anyway. He said, you are a public figure and you have a higher responsibility to the people that look up to you than a regular person does. And when I first heard that then it was like the nerve of you to think that I'm supposed to be better than somebody because this is what I do, or the nerve for you to think that you should sends me based on this, But in reality he was so right. God has given me an opportunity to be able to be in a space to have a platform, to be able to be a voice for them. And instead of me being a positive voice and being there to be as as as a great example of what people should do, I decided to do it the wrong way. So I might have affected some women or girls or whoever that might think that what I did was okay and then when it did that and maybe they could be in the same predicament. Or I might have disappointed some of my fans because they didn't think that I would do that because they saw me as this hard working mother or you know, an entrepreneur. So in reality, he's right. I do hold a higher standard to the world of how I should display and what I should do. And now I leve everybody less. Means I don't even want a handicapped placker. I want nothing to do with nothing illegal. Whatever's going on, please keep me out of it. And I'm acting and I've learned conspiracy is a real thing. Conspiracy is me and you can be sitting here talking and we could be like, let's go rob this back downtown, and whether we go rob it or not, that's conspiracy. They can get you on it. So anybody talks about and oh, I don't even want to hear it.

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Speaker 2: You block it out. You block it out.

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Speaker 1: So the thing is, when you were there the first six months, you're crying every day.

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Speaker 2: Do the women recognize you?

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Speaker 4: It was a frenzy when I went into the prison, like literally to the point where I had to sign something that said that the BOFP would keep me safe because I was a public figure and they had to make sure that the things certain things didn't happen. I would go and take pictures with people on the weekends when we did picture stuff, like I really like, I really had, honestly to be in prison and to walk through all these different lives of people because I've met so many people. I met older people, younger people. They have people that are eighteen that are in prison with girls that's got twenty years or women that I met like miss Bell, which is somebody that I became really close to and she has a life sentence and you know, I really and she's been on the she's been on the list to get to get partned, and I met ms. I don't know if you know who miss West is, but Kim Kardashian was working with Miss Michelle West and she got her partnered. Yes, in February. She was really one of my close mentors while I was in prison, I said, and had conversations with her. She gave she had me read this Langston Houston, this Langston Hughes book that I loved. We would still to have meetings. She was sent and talk to me her daughter, who is a stylist that's out in LA. Like, I met really interesting and good people that really helped me throughout the way. And I was so blessed to watch her go home because she had two life sentences plus fifty years. You know, nobody can do that, but God, there's no other way around it.

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Speaker 2: Were you before prison? Were you always spiritual?

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Speaker 4: I was? I was. I was fake spiritual. I think like I was, like cause I really when I was younger, I thought I was called to be a preacher and like I did, like I would go to Sunday school and I would do this, and I would do that. But I never I never had the relationship that I have with God now, and I wouldn't have because when you're when you're sitting in that space, or you're in prison, or you're in that there's nobody else you can call on but Him. And sometimes God puts you in a space where you only can call on Him and only be responsible for him. And I don't think that's something that I really really understood until that moment came. And I tell people all the time God's grace and his mercy. I don't think I ever could have got through it. I don't ever, I don't think I could have. I think there's no way around it.

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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the shell.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 1: I tell people this all the time, and I tell myself this, right, if we have any tissue we can give to want to make sure because the faces beat, Yeah, listen, God doesn't make mistakes. And one thing I know for sure is God always wants you.

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Speaker 2: To turn to Him.

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Speaker 1: And when we have free will, right, that's the blessing of being on this earth.

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Speaker 2: We have free will to do what we want to do.

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Speaker 1: We're not supposed to do everything we want to do right, and sometimes we make decisions that isn't right, and we sometimes ask God, well, why did you make this happen, versus being like, no, I made this happen, and what I need to do is repent of my sins and really follow God's word to help me out of this situation, because all He wants you to do is rely on him. And everything you're saying is true in terms of sometimes God will put you in a situation where you can only rely on Him and you only know it's Him.

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Speaker 2: And I know that from my life. I know that for lo as.

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Speaker 1: Many people who are in this industry, you are, even in this conversation, changing lives with tons of women because the thing that you did.

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Speaker 2: And I will never forget this.

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Speaker 1: When you and I had our conversation before you went to prison, you were talking about the things you were doing and you were like, everybody does it, and I was like, I never heard of it?

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Speaker 2: What was it?

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Speaker 4: That was CPN?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the CPN.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I know a CPA girl, I said, what's a CPN? And then people were in my DMS like you never heard of it? And I'm like, I wasn't being shady to my girl, like I as a forty something girl.

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Speaker 2: Guy never heard of that at the time.

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Speaker 1: And I love the fact that you're even saying like even saying that, like, well, everybody does it, Well, everybody robs the bank.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean you should do it at all.

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Speaker 1: And I love the fact that you were you were able to allow yourself out to really seek God in those darkest moments because he is the only person that can help you out of the situation. Because let's be clear, you were sentenced to four years and only served nineteen months.

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Speaker 4: So I think, so this is the thing just about that. So people don't really understand the federal system, and you don't really understand it until you have to be in the system where you have a loved one that's in the system to understand it. So people are like, oh, you gotta do eighty five percent, Well not really anymore. So really you're doing happier time now because of the different programs that have been the First Step Act, the Second Chance Act. You have all these different programs that stack on top of your sentence to be able to make you leave prison a lot quicker. So one thing that I was able to do while I was in prison and I did a program car called art app ourd APP is a residential drug residential drug program where you go in if you have an alcohol problem, you smoke weed or people I was in there were people that have really hard drugs that were a heroine I was on, was on heroin or you know, fitting all or things of that nature. And you go through this nine month process of learning and digging deep into yourself to understand who you are from doing all these different kind of assignments, for being able to have to get up every day and do the exact same thing, having to have your bed made, having to be in uniform, having to do all these things until I got to a point where I was a senior guide, which is the person that leads the community within the that leads the community within our app and our depth changed my life. I'm not gonna lie to you, and to the point where I even went and talked about it to the stakeholders while I was still in prison, to the people that was there, because it really really really helped me. I don't and to be honest with you, I didn't have a drug problem. I mean, you know, I smoked weed sometimes during alcohol I didn't have a drug need, you know, but I made it. So I did because when you do our dep you get a year off of you get a year off your.

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Speaker 2: Sentence and and how long is that program?

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Speaker 4: Then when you get out, you have to do four months of T that so that I just got off of T that two weeks ago. What's that T that is when you go and you do one on one counseling once a week and then you do one on one, I mean you do group counseling once a week. So I would go on Wednesdays and Thursdays. And it just gives you another process of being able to process now being on the other side of the gate, to make sure that you're still walking in that straight line to be able. And it really wasn't about drugs. It was about changing your It's about your cognitive think cognitive thinking, so understanding excuse me, I had criminal thinking errors that I hadn't that's what they're called. I had no clue I had them. I didn't know. Entitlement. Entitlement super optimism and thinking that I can get away with something like I have superpower, so I can get away with stuff. What was another one? That was something that was good cognitive indolence, like being lazy or just thinking that taking the shortcut around things that I wouldn't have to do it, or you just learn all these things and then you go and then we learn about these common thinking errors and we like take them about the positive attitude and you try to combat them with them. So for me, mine was entitledment. I'm very entitled. I thought. I was like, you know, top of queen bitch, who's gonna tell me what to do? Who you're talking to? Like, but like in prison, there's no queen bitch like you. Well, so there is some I.

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Speaker 1: Was gonna ask you because there again, I watched movies, so I don't know this is a fact or not, but in the movies and the TV shows, there seems to be in female prisons this.

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Speaker 2: You know, den mother, the queen bee, the one you just don't.

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Speaker 4: Mess well, And they have some that and one. Most of them were the older ladies that have been there for a very long time. And I was really cool with all of them, like.

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Speaker 2: I really, they're gonna try you.

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Speaker 4: No, try me, like try to fight me.

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Speaker 2: And stuff, yeah, like like to test your my gangster.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one time I got tested.

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Speaker 2: It was what happened with them.

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Speaker 4: I mean it was fine. We can't talk about all those prison stories, but it worked out fine. But I really people, really, I think more so for me to be in prison. It really wasn't about I started. You have to have a job where I was at. So I became a teacher and I started an e commerce course where I taught all the women how to start online courses and how to be able to get their LLC's and get their EI in numbers to be able to start their own businesses. So I did that within the prison. That was something I did. You don't have out of eight hundred and something prisoners, there's only eight teachers in the whole entire prison. So if people would come and meet with me, I would go over their business plans with them. I would help them whatever I DIDs they had. They would bring me their scripts about shows and movies they wanted to do. I was like, oh, listen, got a dog, you should tweak this or usually I don't like about it. I don't know about that. So I really like took things that I knew and tried to pour it into other people. And then people really pour stuff into me too. I did a whole I interviewed seventy five women while I was in prison. I did. I'm gonna going to release a book called US Versus the United States of America. Well it talks about all of their things that they the things versus United States said this and what they what the real truth was, and kind of like compare the two base on their cases and just giving people a voice to be able to talk about what happened to them and talk about their children. And I just did. I just I tried my best after I got over being a bitch for six months, to give to get the best experience out of it, because I think when we look at it on TV, for me, I was like, oh my god, they're going to try to cut my face. Oh my god, oh my god, I'm gonna have to watch it. Men prisons are like that, but women prisons are not like that. It's like a big slumber party. Honestly, it's not the best, but.

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Speaker 1: It's not this who as dangerous? No, maybe the men present away.

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Speaker 4: They still are fighting, they still are cutting people's faces. That those things are still happening. Yes, yes, yes I did. I saw somebody get into a fight. I saw somebody take a raise of blade and cut somebody in their face. Yeah, I saw all of it. That happened for sure. M hm.

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Speaker 2: And what would you do? Just mind your business?

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's the best thing for you to do, because if you walk into to try to break up a fight, they'll put you'll be in the shoe too. The shoe is the special housing unit where men call it the whole. Like you literally go and you're in a space for at least thirty days where you're by yourself and of steale. So that's not worth it. You know what, I rarely could do prison I was gonna do that. I celebrate that to I'm like, uhh yeah, whatever you'll got going off the over there, I can't do it.

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Speaker 2: And you know, there was a picture that was viral.

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Speaker 4: I heard a couple of them. Yeah I saw.

00:28:22
Speaker 1: I don't know, but so okay, so explained to the rain drop. There's there's a picture. It's Bredish for her natural hair.

00:28:28
Speaker 4: Uh huh.

00:28:29
Speaker 2: First of all, the body was bodying.

00:28:31
Speaker 4: Was I sitting like this?

00:28:32
Speaker 2: It was?

00:28:32
Speaker 1: It was like a bodies abundant situation and maybe a bag.

00:28:37
Speaker 2: But the body, you'll have to like these You don't like these sweat suits.

00:28:42
Speaker 4: We only can wear sweats. Don't have nothing enough.

00:28:44
Speaker 3: But but the carves and carving, yeah, we get them, We get them altered, We get the sweat since alters in prison, girl, I have never met so many talented people in my life. They do alterations, they make books, they do they do arts and crabs. If you could see the things that they put together for birthday in prison, you'd be like, what the hell? Like literally cakes and flowers out of paper, just like crazy stuff.

00:29:13
Speaker 4: You'd be like, wow, Like I'm telling you, it's like being in a whole other world.

00:29:17
Speaker 1: But no, it was good because it was you and a bunch of baddies and my mad mean beautiful women.

00:29:21
Speaker 4: It was they're all cute, are you?

00:29:23
Speaker 1: Guys were so cute and we were just looking like, wait a minute, y'all look at good in prison. Because again, people really look at some of these shows that they think like, Okay, there's beautiful women who unfortunately are in prison or whatever. But we feel like, okay, you know again, I'm assuming like it's corn rows. You know, y'all take your wig off and when you get there and well you can't, well they.

00:29:50
Speaker 4: Would sneak weaving sometimes, but like I would wear my hair braided, like I get my hair braided or wearing a bun. Sometimes I'll get my hair braided every week, like somebody canna break my hair, and I'll give my heart braided.

00:29:59
Speaker 2: So and who does hair?

00:30:01
Speaker 4: You got somebody that does hair. You got somebody that does nails. You have somebody to do wash clothes. You got somebody to cook. You got somebody do everything. It's the same kind of thing. It's just like it's own little world.

00:30:11
Speaker 2: How was the food?

00:30:13
Speaker 4: Our food wasn't bad? They said, we have our prison that I was that had some of the best food. But honestly, to be honest with you, guys, I would like I learned how to really like prison cook and cook in prison.

00:30:23
Speaker 2: What's prison cook?

00:30:24
Speaker 4: Like? I learned how to make like rice bowls, and like I learned how to make like anchiladas, and I would make tacos, and like you make convasary. No, you have to boil it in hot water. You have to drop it in hot water. You have to put me with cooking bags. Like it's a real thing. Like I went from having a chef to cook it in a bag. I thought about it on Sunday because my birthday we had the chef came a couple of days and cooked for us and stuff. Shout out to my chef. He's really cool and he came and cooked for us, and I was like, I sat there and I started crying. And my best friend looked at me, like, what's wrong with true? I said, because I was just cooking out of a plastic bag four months ago. And my other friend came in, walked up stairs. It was just like, what is wrong with you? She was like, I'm just so happy you're home. She was like, I'm just so happy we could do this, because it's really weird to just I learned how to do things because I didn't have a choice. But it's not it was a It was it was a big, a big not a shocker would be a good word. But I think a very very good reality chick.

00:31:25
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, No, no, no, And I'm glad.

00:31:27
Speaker 1: But it goes back to what you said earlier about having gratefulness because you appreciate what we can, what we take for granted.

00:31:35
Speaker 4: A refrigerator, a mic away, the simple things that we think nothing about. So grateful for this, the smallest things.

00:31:45
Speaker 1: When you talk about your entitlement, were you entitled like as a little girl teenager, or did being famous and being a reality start and making entitled.

00:31:54
Speaker 4: I've been in titleed my entire life to the point where I see it in my daughter now. So it's like I'm read, I'm retaking. I'm trying to readjust her at seven so that she doesn't feel like she's so spoiled. And I think that a lot of us, as women I've watched it, we categorize it as being spoiled. But entitlement is a real thing when you feel like you're entitled to have something, Are you entitled to something, or you feel like you're better than someone so you deserve this more than the other person does. And a lot of us, for me, I used to do it in simple things like well girl, you know, I am like what's up? Like I pay extra? Or like forget her who cares? Like I don't think like that anymore. I'm like, uh uh, like you know if this person was here first, like even I have. So this is what I've been telling people. I have so much patience now, but my tolerance is a minimum. I have so much patience, though I don't have a problem. If the old lady is walking down the street, it's taking her ten minutes in front of me, no problem. It's just that I look at times so much different. Nothing is more valuable than my time now, because when someone takes that away from you, that is the one thing I cannot get back, and that's the one thing I want to allow anyone to waste of my time. So my tolerance for bull is I absolutely no, in whatever case it may be. I'm not arguing with nobody. I'm not fighting with nobody. I'm not letting I'm not allowing someone to use me in any kind of way that is malicious or negative. I'm not dealing with negative energy. I'm just at a space where I just need to be able to walk on the path that I need to do to be able to do the best thing for me and my child. So anything that takes me from that, I'm out.

00:33:29
Speaker 2: Who was watching your daughter for those nineteen months?

00:33:32
Speaker 4: Her dad had her, my best friend had her, my mom. Her dad did a really really good job. I'm not gonna lie. She's very overly spoiled now, but it's fine. But he did a really really good job, and she came to visit me a couple of times. She came to four months. Yes, it was so hard, and she spoke life and to me. The first time she came, she was about to leave and I started crying when she was walking away, and she walking back over and she's like, Mommy, you'll be home. So you're strong, you're beautiful, and she gave me a kiss on my nose and she said, go take a nap. I'll see you tomorrow when she came back the next day. And she's just really, really strong she has. I don't think we understand how much resilience our kids have, because in my mind, I was like, oh my god, my daughter's gonna hate me. She's gonna have abandonment issues like these are all the things I was thinking because my mom wasn't as active in my life as I would have wanted her to be when I was a kid, so I didn't want my daughter to feel like that was the same thing. But she did counseling the whole time I was gone. She did counseling once a week thought the time I was gone, So I made sure that she kind of was in a space where she could talk to someone about something if she needed help with something. And I think that's a big thing that our community doesn't really understand or take value to mental health and being able to talk to someone about the things that were going through and I was. I was a victim of not wanting to. It's not wrong with me. I realized that until I was in prison, I hadn't even a grieved my father passing away the proper way and understanding the level of grief and the stages of grief and just it's just been so many things that I've been enlightened to now that I was able to be open to. I wasn't open to anything. I just thought I knew it all. And I just thought that I knew better than the next person knew. Or she don't know what she's talking about. Or I got my money to her, so what can she tell me? And money has absolutely nothing to do with being able to be objective or money has nothing to do with being a good person. And I'm learning that people, most people that have the most money are not the best people. And I don't want to be that.

00:35:32
Speaker 1: Well, it's being titled, man, you know what I mean a lot of people who have lots of means some of them are ver entitled. Do you remember the day that you were told you're getting out early?

00:35:47
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I've learned. So when I did our DApp, they told me, they were like, you're gonna learn what day you're going home by this day, this day, and let me tell you how I kept getting tested. Ooh, I kept getting tested. I kept getting tested. So I was supposed to get out, and I was supposed to get out in July, like of June.

00:36:04
Speaker 2: We got into June this year of.

00:36:07
Speaker 4: This year, and what happened was our graduation dates got pushed back. So then they were like, oh, well, you guys are probably leaving July. And I was like, okay, so I'll graduate and then i'll graduate from our DAP and I'll leave the next day, or I'll leave a couple days later. Originally I was leaving like the next day after graduation. Well, they came called me back and I was like, no, you're not leaving ntil four weeks after your graduation. I'm like another month and they're like yes. I'm like why you know? And then she ended up calling and they gave me like an extra week to come, and so I ended up leaving prison on August the twelfth, which was on my mother's birthday, which was interesting, and we tried to surprise my daughter, but she was listening to everybody's conversation so she knew I was coming home. And it was It was weird, honestly, like to walk out of those gates and like freely be able to walk out. I was like, WHOA, Like this was like the air smells different outside, and everyone looked different and things were different. AI is this whole thing that I still can't figure out. I've been trying to figure it out and I still not there yet, but I'm trying. And just everything was just you don't realize how fast things change within a short period of time. And I love how everyone was like you weren't going that long. It's gonna get went by so fast. I'll be looking at them like yeah for you.

00:37:17
Speaker 2: Because being in prison, the days fell long.

00:37:21
Speaker 4: Ooh, they're so long. They are long because you're counting them down. I just stopped counting down days two weeks ago. I'm not even being funny. I talked about therapist about this because I was counting down. Today I got out of prison, I'm calming down, so I got graduated, and I was counting down to there I gout of prison. Then I had the ankle monitor on, so I was counting down how many days until I got off the ankle monitor, and then until the day I got Then I heard no. That was another thing. I wasn't supposed to get off until December the sixteenth, and my PARATIONI I was like, oh, no, you're getting off early. And I got off on the fourth, So I was happy about that too. But that was a whole other beast in itself, because you're you're you're out in the free world, but you can't do anything. You have to put in a schedule for every single thing that you do. You can't go anywhere without asking about it. You can't stop at the grocery store, you can't stop at Walgreens. And my daughter and needs better don't have to ask to.

00:38:05
Speaker 1: Do so because part of the conditions of your early release was you had to have an ankle.

00:38:11
Speaker 2: Monitor for how long? Four months or four months? Was it?

00:38:14
Speaker 4: House arrested, I was on what they call federal location monitoring, which is a new thing that the federal system is doing where you go straight home to your probation officer and your probation officer is like the liaison between the BOP, which is the you know, the Bureau of Prisons and then you. But they have to say so because you're still technically an inmate. You're just on the street. Most people go to like to they usually go to like a halfway house or something. But they didn't make me gonna say. They let me go to straight home, which was nice of them, but it gives you more restrictions compared to me, not a halfway house.

00:38:43
Speaker 1: So anytime you wanted to like walk out the door, you had to.

00:38:48
Speaker 4: Have it scheduled. I've just been having my freedom for the real in real life for literally two weeks, to the point where I'd be like if you have to remember, like I'm putting my pants on, like if you don't have anc monitor anymore, or like you can leave the house at eleven o'clock, that you can leave. I would be home by six o'clock.

00:39:03
Speaker 1: Was it was it weird for you to shower by yourself?

00:39:07
Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, it was.

00:39:09
Speaker 4: Well, the thing with the showers is it was weird for me to shower with no shoes on, because the there you shower with shower shoes on. I never want to put it on shower shoes again, Like athletes do it a lot, you know, but like to have every day you have to put on shower shoes. And like I hated looking at everyone's hair. Oh the hair got them my nurse. I have like a phobia with hair now. It's just it's horrible. And then like he's shaken because the guards would walk with their keys. It's just little things. It's like reminding her prison. Oh my god.

00:39:38
Speaker 1: So you as as of today, you've been off of ankle monitoring for two weeks.

00:39:46
Speaker 4: It's been well, that was the fourth about this is the third.

00:39:49
Speaker 1: Week, the third week, so for the past three weeks, how has life been for you.

00:39:54
Speaker 4: It's been refreshing, But it's been weird because I've been so used to somebody telling me what to do for like the past two years. So it's like now I have my own freedom do what I want to do. And I'm really really careful about the things that I said yes and no to, Like I just because I want to be able to walk on that line that keeps me where I need to be. I'm just a lot more cautious now about.

00:40:17
Speaker 1: Things now that you're out, what is your relationship like now with your child's father, Lorenzo.

00:40:26
Speaker 4: Me and Lorenzo have a good We have a good co parents and relationships. Still, Lorenzo did a phenomenal job with my daughter. I will forever be indebted and thankful to him for how he treated her, how he was very acceptive as a father, even with him just helping me with things. Since I've been home, he's always been. He's just a great support system. As far as it's being together, No, he has his own thing going on, all his girls friends, and you know, he's still a ladies man. And you know, I sit and tease him or give him advice about what to do or what not to do. But I love him always. He is always good. He's my family to me. I always got to back. You always got my back, and you know, we just have a we have a great coparents relationship. He gets on my nurse time. I cuss him out every once in a while. I haven't been cussing, I'm just cussing. I was like, you know what, I'm not gonna deal with this right now. You're coming back and you get yourself together. So but we have still have. We have a great relationship period. You we just do.

00:41:18
Speaker 1: When you're out and about, Like, are you trying to meet new guys?

00:41:24
Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm gonna be so I'm gonna so you want me to be totally honest with you, Okay, So I have the past. For the past few months, I have been dating a girl I was. We're not we weren't in a we're not in a relationship, but we were dating.

00:41:43
Speaker 3: That makes any sense, dating virtually or no, just dating like you know, dating.

00:41:49
Speaker 4: But I've been so it's not that I'm not.

00:41:51
Speaker 2: You will come to see you at the house.

00:41:53
Speaker 4: She came before, Yeah, a couple of times. I mean whatever saying did you meet her? I knew her prior to me going to prison. How I met her like within like the realm of some things, like people.

00:42:09
Speaker 1: We knew mutual people, No, damn sliding, but like in person once.

00:42:15
Speaker 4: And then DM and and then.

00:42:16
Speaker 2: You know, Okay, is she a stud?

00:42:18
Speaker 4: I don't know if you would you consider her that?

00:42:20
Speaker 1: Okay lipsick, No, No, she's she's like me with a wig, even though you're gorgeous.

00:42:31
Speaker 4: But we're really good friends and we're for She's really one of my really good friends. And I don't know if that's the lane I'm going to go in because I'm like kind of like, now, I'm like, do I want to date guys? I want to Dating a girl is a lot?

00:42:46
Speaker 2: Is she the first girl you dated?

00:42:48
Speaker 4: No, she's the first girl, but I dated dated? Yeah for real?

00:42:51
Speaker 2: Really did you date any of the girls in prison?

00:42:53
Speaker 4: Yeah? Of course I did, did just one or two. Don't be asking any questions that you want the truth to the.

00:43:07
Speaker 2: I always want the truth. This is reality, reality, just a couple.

00:43:11
Speaker 4: I mean, no big deal. It was it was fine.

00:43:13
Speaker 2: It was fine with y'all.

00:43:15
Speaker 4: It's this own little world in there.

00:43:18
Speaker 1: Would y'all be intimate in the in the cells, we didn't have sales.

00:43:21
Speaker 4: We were like in like cube cubicles. We Ours wasn't like cells like certain prisons have sales. Ours was like open bay, like like like college type like rooms.

00:43:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, where the door is open.

00:43:33
Speaker 4: There was no doors.

00:43:34
Speaker 2: There were no doors. Y'all can see each other's rooms. So y'all would put the sheets over your head.

00:43:40
Speaker 4: They put they what we used to what they call them, uh, they put the sheets up, but they called it what did they call it? Tents? They would call them tents. They would up, that's what they call it, tints.

00:43:50
Speaker 2: And that's when you knew somebody was getting busy.

00:43:51
Speaker 4: Well, you don't know if that's what's happening or if they just watching the movie because they don't want you because of the light. It just you never know. You never know. You in prison, I did, yeah once or twice.

00:44:01
Speaker 2: You know, did y'all have vibrators in prison? No?

00:44:03
Speaker 4: I wish would be it would have been a read commissary. No, you pick that up. But they make like they make like dildos what I don't know. They have like a factory that's within the prison where they can make stuff out of stuff. I wasn't drawing out when I wasn't doing that one, but the people did.

00:44:22
Speaker 2: So the booze you had in prison, are they still there?

00:44:25
Speaker 4: No, they're gonna They're gone.

00:44:28
Speaker 2: Keep in touch. No, okay.

00:44:30
Speaker 1: It's sort of like when you go out of town, out of town, you know you for this time. Okay, so you were dating as a girl post prison release, but now you.

00:44:45
Speaker 4: Know we're friends and we're still like it's dating a woman is toxic. Okay, But I'm at a point now where why is it toxic. It just is just a lot, and I ask emotions. Yeah, it's just a lot. And so but now I'm open to dating, and like, if I'm not gonna be a relationship with her, then I'm gonna date multiple people because that's what you're supposed to do, and so you find who you want to be with right when you're dating people. When you're dating, you should be dating multiple people to figure out which one you actually want to be with. Yeah, so now I'm dating. So I haven't come to the conclusion of how I'm going to do this, but I'm open to dating.

00:45:18
Speaker 2: You know, are you open to dating more women?

00:45:24
Speaker 4: I'm open to dating in general. It doesn't mean I have come to terms that I've always been bisexual. But I was scared to say that out loud, even though I have been playing and dabbling all the time. But I never said that out loud. But it's not like I woke up today and I'm like, oh, I hate men, so I'm gonna date women. I've always you know, talk to women from time.

00:45:41
Speaker 2: Zone Porsche came out.

00:45:44
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I saw that. I saw that would uh when I date Porsche. She's my cousin. Her Na's Porsche Williams right, I don't know. I should always say Porsha Porsia is really Porsche's fine, though, So I don't know if I would not not date her, I don't mean probably.

00:46:07
Speaker 2: It's the girl that you are still friends when you're talking to. Is she in the industry.

00:46:12
Speaker 4: She's not in the industry?

00:46:13
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's not Tie Young.

00:46:14
Speaker 4: No, it's not.

00:46:17
Speaker 2: Old time.

00:46:18
Speaker 4: I'd be like, this is so messy. No, it's not time.

00:46:22
Speaker 2: No, it's not time.

00:46:23
Speaker 4: It's not Tie. It's not Tie. You have my older girls, though I have all the girls. I don't know what's I doing.

00:46:28
Speaker 1: My brother junk because I love Tie and I'm always and I want to interview Tie and Tie.

00:46:33
Speaker 2: I reached talked to her team when.

00:46:36
Speaker 1: Basketball Vise was on to do an interview, and she said she would do it, but things happened, And my joke was, Tie is so fine that I would wear Chasity Bell.

00:46:48
Speaker 2: Like Tie. I have never been with a woman.

00:46:50
Speaker 4: But you would try my hall past gorgeouses.

00:46:57
Speaker 1: Somebody's the body's Megan So but you know Ties number two.

00:47:03
Speaker 4: Let me find out.

00:47:05
Speaker 2: Let me find out.

00:47:08
Speaker 1: I like a couple of dudes like Tie. But I on the conversation Paul the other day. Okay, we'll talk about that later. But back to you.

00:47:16
Speaker 2: So, is there any I mean, you're out right now, you're free. Are there any men's that pick your interest? I mean mm hmm, famous, yeah, oh, Blue Checks, more.

00:47:33
Speaker 1: Than one, oh sports one, Rappers one?

00:47:42
Speaker 2: Is it future or.

00:47:46
Speaker 4: No? No, why would you put that one out there?

00:47:50
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll projected projects?

00:47:56
Speaker 1: No?

00:47:57
Speaker 4: Uh uh I no.

00:48:02
Speaker 2: Okay, so Rapper. I mean I'm just saying maybe maybe it could be reality star.

00:48:09
Speaker 1: No.

00:48:09
Speaker 4: I mean, I just I'm open to dating.

00:48:12
Speaker 2: Period.

00:48:12
Speaker 4: Like, I'm open to a point where I'm like, if it makes sense for me on the alignment that I will, then I'm going to be like, Okay, maybe I'm going to date with him. You know, because I was at a point where at first, when the bark went person like, I'm not going to dab with nobody. I don't want to think they're entitled to talk to me. I want toboy think they gotta deal with me. I just didn't want that to be a thing. And then, you know, I mean, but I'm kind of I'm open to dating. Well, we'll see where it goes.

00:48:36
Speaker 1: Listen, I think you should date around and see what I see what you like because.

00:48:40
Speaker 4: It's time for me to get married. I'm getting old. I'm old.

00:48:44
Speaker 2: You're not old.

00:48:45
Speaker 4: I just turned thirty six.

00:48:47
Speaker 1: Girl.

00:48:48
Speaker 2: You are first of all. Age ain't nothing but the numbers you your spirit gifts. Twenties.

00:48:54
Speaker 4: But I need to But it's time for me to get married and have a child, even if it's with a girl or a guy. Whatever. Way, one more baby, okay? And so that's mama, I do I want a boy?

00:49:05
Speaker 2: You want to use lorenzo sperm?

00:49:07
Speaker 4: And just no. I think that I can move forward and have a child with someone that makes sense for me to want to be with. Even though Lorenzo is a great father, you know for sure. Jeans gray jeans, Yeah, because my daughter's gorgeous and he has his other kids are gorgeous too. But no, okay, I'm cool, Okay, okay, all right, So.

00:49:26
Speaker 1: Look, so what now that you're out, what is next for British Williams? Like, what is it that you want to conquer and do? Base on your experience.

00:49:38
Speaker 4: So we're working on my talk show right now, Conned being British, and it's going to be a show where my hope is to be like you know, Oprah in a way that I can do it because you know, we have the Jennifer Hudson and we have Sherry Shepherd, and we have a Hall, but all of those women are they're categorizing more so women in an older age bracket. So it's like I want to open up that age record for between the women of twenty five to forty five or twenty five to fifty to have those same things that bring those guests on that we would want to talk to and have. And then I have the Saxe Space, which is my podcast, and I'm going to do also too. I've been getting questions about it if I'm going to go back to reality television, and of course I'm going to. I just don't know what platform. If I want to go back to Basketball wives, if I want to do something else. I want to do something though, because I feel like I need to give that side up to my fans, of give them that raw feedback of what happened within me to see those things and to be able to see me being British as a mother, being British as an artist, being British as a talk show Holls, being British as whatever it is being able to see that side of me for sure?

00:50:45
Speaker 2: Were you able to see Basketball Wives?

00:50:47
Speaker 4: I watched it while I was in prison, and when we tell you what was the craziest thing. I had never had to see myself in prison until one night. It was like on at like twelve o'clock at night, and like one of my friends was like, British. They were like, you're on TV. I was like what. They were like, yeah, that's what. We watched the reunion and I'm like, oh my god. I didn't even get up to going there. I was like, I'm not doing it, Like that was just too weird, you know. And they're like, oh my god, you look see She's like you you was bigger out here. You were something. She's like, oh you was talking shit like it's funny. So but we would watch it on Mondays like I would host it, which is funny, Like that was my thing. I that's right. We would watch it that. I watched the girls have with Tie and Me and all them on there. I was like, okay, girls, like they was. You know, Jackie, I've had Jackie block for at least three years now, why are you block?

00:51:27
Speaker 2: Jacket? Christie.

00:51:29
Speaker 5: Now she's lied on me, which lie was exactly I point to you exactly, she lied on me, tried to record, tried to record.

00:51:40
Speaker 4: Me, just like she just is. Just grow up, grow up Jackie, Christie for real, how.

00:51:48
Speaker 1: Did you feel about what was going on between her and her daughter's chantelle?

00:51:53
Speaker 4: Not surprised, unfaced, that makes sense. She just that's a firm person that needs to take countability for their actions because everybody else is fought for hers. This is just how she's always been.

00:52:05
Speaker 1: I would like British wombs to go back on basketball wives.

00:52:07
Speaker 2: If you're listening. Okay, thank you so much.

00:52:09
Speaker 1: But look, I will say this all drugs aside. I am so proud of your growth. I mean this when I say this. I was probably one of the last people you interviewed with before you went to prison, and to talk to you post release, two different women is two different women.

00:52:32
Speaker 2: And I appreciate the fact that you allow.

00:52:36
Speaker 1: Yourself to go through the motions to gain accountability when you were ready to do it, to upgrade your spirituality to where it isn't just like you said, the sort of like dip your toe in and out, because there's so many people who be like God this and God that, and I'd be like, how do you believe in God? But I know for a fact you messy in a sense of like you don't practice what you preach.

00:53:01
Speaker 2: You don't let them fight your battles. You want to fight everything else.

00:53:03
Speaker 1: You do things behind the scene that doesn't that doesn't make sense to what you're preaching to the public on social media. So I love the fact that you're so honest about it. What advice do you have for black girls, whether it's teenage girls, grown women who were doing some of the things, who are doing some of the things that you were doing, and.

00:53:32
Speaker 2: They just think this is the part of life.

00:53:35
Speaker 4: Well, one thing that I have created since I've been out of prison is called my foundation, is called the Brilliance Foundation, And the Brilliance Foundation is what's set to be able to not only do prison reform things where we go in and we help the things that I've saw within the prisons that need to be fixed, because one thing that I saw was the health care for women in prison. Health Care for women in prison is a very very difficult thing because you have women in that are pregnant, you have women in that to have cancer, you have women in there that are sick or have things going on with them, and the process for being able to get in with a doctor or a specialist is like crazy, doesn't even make any sense. And that was something that I noticed, even with feminine care in prison, I noticed that, so I started up. I started the Safe Space feminine Care, which is something where we have bore asset, we have we have more gasses oppositories, we have phone washing. My hope is to get some kind of bill passed that they require certain vitamins, certain things on commisary for women in being state or federal prison where it allows them to be able to have those knees met when it's something to come to their vaginal care. So I want people to remember that when they go to prison that you don't really have any control over the things that are going on with your body. Period. Like you literally are an entity that belongs to the government. You don't go by your name. You go by a number. What's my six, say five one nine, five on nine, Yeah, that's my number. That's my number. It's like forever embedded in my head.

00:54:52
Speaker 2: They call you by your number, you're.

00:54:54
Speaker 4: Called my last name. We me tell you a story. That was funny. When my daughter kind of visit me, they called me Williams. They're like William Williams. My daughter looked at that man, she said, her name is British, her name is not Williams. And she didn't understand it because she's like why, she said, why does he keep calling you Williams. That's not your name. I was like, but they go by last names. There were military time there, so you go buy your last names instead of your first names, and then you have so many Williams, like Williams five or nine and Williams six a five or whatever it is. So my recommendation to women that have or has been through the same thing that I've been through, or doing the same things that I was doing, it's the stop because nothing, no amount of money, no amount of success, no amount of love, no amount of any of those things are worth the time that you have to give back to the to eat, into the government, to the state, whatever it may be. Because when you're sitting in it's sitting in the cellar, you're sitting in that room and you can't leave, and it's Christmas. I cried so hard on Christmas last year because I wasn't there with my daughter. I something I don't know if I'm ever gonna and it's hard for me to say. I you just say, I never regret anything, but I regret the things that I did because those weren't mistakes. Mistakes are something that you do once or twice, and then it once, then twice, after two or three times, it becomes a pattern. It becomes a part of who you are that it comes up something that you're doing purposefully. So to stop that cycle, you have to just tell yourself that the things that you're doing are wrong. Not because I think as a as an individual. I used to go to be like, oh, I'm doing to survive. I gotta do it for this, or I gotta do it for that, I gotta do it for this. But in reality, I did all of that and my daughter didn't have me for nineteen months. I couldn't go to her school functions. I couldn't be there for Mother's Day, I couldn't be there for her birthday parties. You know, I was parenting over a phone on a video visit once a week, and it just wasn't None of it was worth it. Not a bag, not a shoe, not a car. None of it was worth it. And I just recommend that you know, you look at what's really important to you, because at the end of the day, what I also realized would be in prison. Of people that I thought was my friend or people that thought that would be there for me were not there for me. But most of them were Brooke, Bailey, Brandy, all of them sent money all the time, email me all the time. My best friend Raquel always is my ride to dive, you know, my friend Tisha bringing my daughter to see me, even Lorenzo bringing my daughter to see me. My manager at Lesion was there. All the people that most of the people that I thought would be there were there. It was a couple of people that were like, oh really, like that's what you own, you know, And now they just don't get to go on the journey with me, which I'm not upset about it. I'm not mad about it. And I you know, if I see them that I speak, how you doing, But like, you just can't be in that circle of that space with me now because who I am now you deserve that last version of me. You don't deserve this version of me. So I just I suggest that women learn that people that are going through what I've going through or doing the things that I did, learn to just understand that the things that they're doing nothing is more important than your time. It's just not. And you know, some people might not get caught, and some people get caught, but either way you're gonna when you really work hard for the money that you need, you value it differently. The way you spend it is differently. The way that you cherish it is differently. And you know, for me, I was doing legal stuff and doing legal stuff and doing legal stuff for what like it's we think that I think. I used to think, oh, if I go give out, if I go give out turkeys for Thanksgiving, I'm doing good a good deed. Or if I go buy clothes for the shelter for the girls, I'm doing a good deed. But in reality, like I shouldn't be doing that anyway, Like it's not I'm doing it for show or doing it because I'm trying to like off base what I did wrong to feel like I'm doing something right. Just do it right the first time. It's just so much easier now. Listen.

00:58:42
Speaker 1: That's the best advice, because you know, listen in our community. Again, I go back to our first interview, and you're admitting to doing things you thought everybody did. And I believe in education, not education meaning the universities in school, which is import in two, but the education that our community needs in terms of like just because your grandmama put your cousin turned like, that's not legal, but when you grow up in this environment, you think like I thought that was legal, or your five year old, you know child, you put the cable building their name, Like there're just certain things that you know, we laugh at as a community that we just think is normal, but it's not normal in the eyes of a government. And that's why your story to me is so powerful because you're not alone in this, but the fact that you allowed yourself to do the time, you grew so much in those nineteen months that now this platform and everything you're going to do because I believe in you so much, and I know for a fact that a lot of people lives are being changed listening to your story, and there's just so much more room for you to change lives.

01:00:07
Speaker 2: So I'm proud of you.

01:00:08
Speaker 4: I thank you so much, Carlos, and I really hope that people take the things that I've been through, and they take the mistakes that I've made or the lessons that I've learned, they turn they they turned that into something where they don't have to do it. I remember when I was younger, one of my friends used to always tell me that you know what you you smart? You smart. Smart people learn from smart people learn from their own mistakes. Wise people learn from other people's mistakes. So I hope that the people that are watching can be more wise than they are smart, Like, for sure, because I was a smart as it's not a wise person. Now I'm stepping into that. But oh maybe I should do that. If you say it's hot, I believe I'm.

01:00:45
Speaker 2: Not gonna putch it, you know, go have at it.

01:00:47
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, So I think that's that's the most important thing, is really being able to understand that and being able to know that sometimes life is going to give us things and we're going to get there, going to test us to see if we're going to if we're still in that space to do something wrong or we're still face to do something illegal. We're sill in that space where we know that something's wrong, but we do it anyway, And that's just not the best thing to do.

01:01:07
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you, British William y'all follows So Proud of Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King, produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with the Lack of Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube channel at the Carlos King Underscore