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Speaker 1: No, we're gonna forge ahead. We're gonna forge ahead.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Ken's going.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to watch the incredibly similating Gish fiancee Chin one Jung match that is currently taking place here in your living room.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great. Say that again, because you lived in China and you're the only one that I know that looks like you that could say that.

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Speaker 1: Probably I will ignore the racial undertones of that comment and say thank you. Her name is pronounced chin one jung, which sound is how you pronounce a q in Chinese, and jung is the j sound that the company is a z and h.

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Speaker 3: I lived in Beijing for.

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Speaker 1: A little while, and I am trying to relearn my mannerin on dual lingo because it's fun but good.

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Speaker 3: I would say that war Shung shirt.

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Speaker 1: She wons tennis Shojigga Tobia Plian. It's very beautiful to watch her tennis because she gets really smooth. She's only twenty and she and eager Shpantac had a incredible match at the French Open this year where Chin one was the only person who took a set off of Ega. And so I've been pretty pumped about watching these two play each other because they were young and they're both up and coming, and you know.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting to see how Eager handles it, because look, you know, after the US Open, you're tapped, and especially for her having won the us SO Show, having had the year that she's had, you can't. This is what's so hard about being a tennis buyer is that it is a year long slog. And you know, currently she's obviously she just played a tournament in the Czech Republic. She lost in a very very very good tight match with Kudjikova, and kudos to Kuchikiva, like, way to go. She's had a rough year. But we'll get into that after this. But you know, to that match, I know she wasn't feeling that great last week, like physically, like I think she had a cold and then to get on a plane immediately after that match and fly, you know, a long way from Europe to California to play outside. So this is it. I know, it's those days. She's had four days, three days to adjust, but three days is not a lot, and especially if you're not one hundred percent and you know you've played a lot of tennis, So this is not going to be an easy match. Obviously, by the time we put this part out, well, no the victor of this match, but I wouldn't be surprised if she looked if IgA does not win this match, even though jange Is is a lucky loser she lost in the qualies. But that just shows you the depth of women's tennis that you know, this is not a given. You know, if the number one player in the dominant, number one player in the world is playing a lucky loser, you'd be like, this is easy. But I was like, oh, this is not going to be easy. So that just shows you the depth that not only does the San Diego Tournament have, but women's tennis in general.

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Speaker 1: For sure, this leat season swing is super super super were exciting. You know, I was eagerly waiting for this match to come on all day because I really you really were.

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Speaker 3: I was texted me this morning. I know, I'm desperate to see this. I'm like, I'm watching the generally sixth.

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Speaker 4: Like the Insurrection Trials, the Nuremberg, the Nurremberg Trials. I love watching tennis outside. I watched a lot of men's tennis this morning in anticipation of this as I did some work and was on some calls, and you know, it's cool to see some of the indoor court color schemes.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at Giron, Spain in particular. They did a good job. But like indoor tennis, you know, men's tennis is in Florence right now, it's in Sweden.

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Speaker 3: It's you know, it's.

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Speaker 1: Women are include indoors. But this this little swing here, now we have San Diego, the first time San Diego's had a WTA tournament in a long Finally, I.

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Speaker 3: Was literally one of my it was close to my place, the favorite place to play.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 1: Also, San Diego is a hotbed of tennis.

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Speaker 3: Yes, south of Palestoria is a great great you know fans there, yeah great, and they love the doubles there. I always had such you know a lot of people come and watch.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the stands are packed right now as we watch this. And then the tour is going to go to Guadalajara for a one thousand, which is so cool, and I'm so excited that Guadalajara gets a really really prominent tournament and it's going to be outside and I've already heard some of the plans for what they're doing in the tournament. You know there's going to be Mariachi's. In fact, Patrick Kvito just showed up. Might you be doing something down there? I wish I were. I would be dying too, because I would love to throw a Mucheres and Mezcal event. So get at me, sponsors, Let's do a big racket. I'll tell you, shindig.

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Speaker 3: I told you I went to Guadalajara last year for the WT finals. It's the first time I'd been to Mexico, and I was like, why.

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Speaker 1: You've only been to Mexico one time ever?

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Speaker 3: Come here.

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Speaker 1: Mexico's the best.

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Speaker 3: I know it's the best, and don't worry. I'll be trying to get back there.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm trying to do tough in the next year, twenty things in Mexican. I'm trying to do an event in Monterey. I'm trying to go to I'm trying to go to Mexico City and convince them to have a bigger thing like I'm My parents used to live in Mexico City, Mexico. My Mexican is great. As a matter of fact, I was speaking Spanish yesterday ordering some breakfast tacos, and the guy next to me was like.

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Speaker 3: Where did you learn Spanish?

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Speaker 1: Because I have it, I said in Spain. So I have a Spanish accent a little bit, which is the most assholy thing. If you know me, you know, of course I do, because I'm like, I'm impossibly.

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Speaker 3: Difficult in this way.

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Speaker 1: But I also speak Mexican slang because my parents use it, so like ola is like a word that you would say in like Mexican slangs.

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Speaker 3: It's called chilongo. Like specifically, God, here's me. I'm just a dummy.

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Speaker 1: No you're not, You're just.

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Speaker 3: Just I've just got my Aussie accent, which is kind of cool.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a foreign language of its own. Believe me, nobody can understand what the fuck you're talking about, especially when you use all of your Australian athletes. I agree, although you know, sometimes other Australians confirm that in fact, you guys do stay stuff like that, so I but I do have to fact check it. But anyway, I love the fact that tennis is big in Mexico. Watching Garbinia win Guadalajara with all those stiff stands full of people in Mariachi, it was it's like bring tennis to places that are pumped to get it. It's that are going to localize the experience for the fans. And by the way, it does it hurt that they have an incredible tradition of art, music, culture, food, and you know, it was vibes.

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Speaker 3: I was. I can't believe I've never been.

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Speaker 1: Mexico is the ship I was so I was.

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Speaker 3: So happy to and the people are so freaking nice.

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Speaker 1: Now, Mexicans, they're just the best, the best. Yes, I agree, So I'm pumped for this little swing. And then obviously we're going to go into Fort Worth where the w t A Tour Finals is being held a new location. Obviously somebody like EGA is coming across to do that. Our friend, as you noted in Alumni of the Pod, Jessica, just a couple of days ago, for the first.

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Speaker 3: Time, for the very first time, she's qualifying for the WTA Finals and singles, which is an incredible effort. And for those who don't know, it's an accumulation of points throughout the entire year and she has already qualified and sometimes it comes down literally to the last week of the year for the last couple of spots so the fact that she's already solidified it this early is fantastic for her. So Jess, well done. Hastulations, What does it mean. We've got a few alarm that are in. Yeah, Jazz, I'm planning on getting eager, you know, once she stops winning one hundred matches every year.

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Speaker 1: But she has grief had Sabalanca Sabalanka Sabalanka definitely.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'd have to look it up.

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Speaker 1: She's she was one of my favorite part guests, mainly because she's crazy like a fox.

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Speaker 3: I mean, she's she's great.

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Speaker 1: I really love Sabalanka and I'm happy to apparently she has a secret Instagram that she announced on her main instagram. So how secret could it be? I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: Coca GoF we need Coco Coco. Caroline Garcia what an effort to get into the She's close to me.

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Speaker 1: Caroline has had a great year.

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Speaker 3: Sabalinka is seven, but you know the Sabalanka Halup is eighth, and I don't think she's going to keep She's done for the year, I believe.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that a little bit, just because obviously you were at the tour finals last year, you were at the Tour Finals a couple of years ago in Singapore. You've coached players who've made it. Obviously, it's a ton of money. And if it's in a place like Singapore, which I love, or Guadalajara where there's a big, cool vibe going on, that is a bonus. But what does it mean in terms of you know, obviously you might want to win a slam before you would qualify for Oh, it's not the tour finals, but it's it's it's definitely is it rate in terms of No, it's definitely up there.

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Speaker 3: It's uh, you know, I mean I valued it a lot. Yeah, you know when when Lisa and I want it, it was fantastic.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, does it feel special like it's a special invitation only like your VIP? Like does it No, No, it's hurtain like you did the thing.

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Speaker 3: It's very special. You walk around there being like, yeah, we're pretty cool. We made it, like all of us, like we've had a great year. No, everyone's pretty pretty everyone's excited to get there. Trust me, what I tell you. The amount of choking that happens in the last couple of weeks of the year, of the regular season, of the regular season to get into. This is like monumental. I mean, probably the most well probably the most nervous I've ever been as an older player, especially was making my last one. And I made thirteen crime and the last one I made was with Lisa Raymond, and it was kind of like it was a bit of a you know, full circle moment to play again with Lisa, which we'd made like I think we made it every year that we played together, like six or seven years, and then we started playing again so to make our last one, and I remember we had to win one more match, just one match to make it into the Championships. And we were in China and it was like nine it was like eight all in the match tiebreak or eight seven in the match tiebreak up, and I double folded twice in and I have when I tell you, I never double folded like that. I had a pretty solid serve two six back to back. I looked at Lisa after we lost a match, I stop, like, okay, what am I doing. We ended up getting in in the end, but I was so nervous because I wanted to get in so bad. I mean, Carolina Plish go over, like a number of years ago, was up against like Sloan. It was like a Sloan Stevens, Carolina Burton's and married to Malfi's. Oh my god, Elena Switzelena, Like the four of them were going for the last like two or three spots and they just kept losing. They all went to Moscow, they all lost first round. It was like, oh my god. And then Hallette pulled out of the tournament and they all got in. None of them even had to go to Moscow. But it is such a stressful time.

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Speaker 1: In the year this year, so it's really meaningful.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah, it's very meaningful to make this tournament.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about the Asia swing. Obviously there's not happening anymore, neither tour or going to Asia this fall, mainly on the men's side. They have not take in political stand as have the women. But COVID restrictions mean there's no way that you're saying, where do I think it's going to go in the future. No, I'm saying talk a little bit about how, first of all, the season is too long. It just is it is, And what is the psychology of a lot of players not going to China. It's got to be better to be having them. I mean, I am all for tennis flexing in all different parts of the world. Like, I think that's a really cool thing. I think the fact that the tennis has been in Tokyo and in Seoul, and you know, obviously it's going to Mexico. Like, I think this is a great thing, and I think there should be a thoughtful distribution of tournaments and events to make the global nature of it, you know, really emphasize. I think that's cool. But I also think there's something to the fact that in China anyway, Sure, the time zone seems like it was very difficult, the time of year seems like it was very difficult because everyone seemed pretty burned out. But also like you couldn't get around the fact that the fact that, at least on the WTA, the fact that these tournaments were putting up tremendous sums of money, but not tremendous amounts of people to be fans.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'm sorry, but like it's you know, Chinese and you know this, Caitlin better than I do. They don't have money to be paying for that sort of stuff. The people are either working, the ones that have the money are not really going to the tennis.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what it is. There's plenty of money, but there's plenty of traditional seeing tennis. I mean basically, the amount of people who became new drivers and owners of Audi's in the short span of time that I live there would indicate that it's not an economic viability issue. It's a cultural tradition.

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Speaker 3: They're getting so much money from different companies there, and then they want the tennis there because it gives them credibility. So what is going to happen in the future there, I doubt. I don't know. I don't know if the WTA will ever go back there. I mean, has anyone found Pung Shwi.

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Speaker 1: No, it's definitely getting re educated in a way that's pretty horrific and terrible.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean we have talked about that for how long? No, you know, like, yeah, pretty crazy that we haven't talked about it at all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think the IOC really has a lot to answer for by giving China basically a pass and being like, well, they said they found her.

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Speaker 3: Well, hopefully we'll never ever ever take an Olympics back there for a long time, because that first of all, they've had way too many in the last like ten years. I feel like every fucking Olympics is in the is in China. That's it's been over indexed. Yes, sure it's that and Russia. They can both go walk into traffic. Because you'd like to sell a little something that we I want to get out to is that we had a bit of a disappointing situation happen a little over a week ago and a couple of weeks ago in Tokyo against Naomisaka Dasha Gavrilova, friend of the pod Torah ACL. Dasha, we are thinking about you. We are thinking of you. You've been through hell over the last five years, and not only just the last five years. Like she taught her ACL at the start of her career and then she's torn now the other ACL. She had surgery on her foot a couple of times. She's been through but she's lost like legit, legit easily four years out of her career at her peak, and you know, she went from like outside the thousands to come back this year with a protected ranking and now is now inside the top fifty. Yeah, I mean it's unbelievable what she's made an incredible effort to.

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Speaker 1: Get back to the level. You guys had a fantastic chat and a lot of that chat was about you know, mentality and staying positive and working through injury. And she's just such a joy to watch. She's so fun on the phone. She's got such a good energy and you can just tell that she's a classic yeah, I mean shit out of her mouth. She's just super enjoyable to be, you know, to be on a court watching and cheering for. And then you know, you have to imagine that because she's such a positive, sort of bubbly personality person Obviously she got married in the last year. She's you know, got the companionship of a dog. I don't particularly like dogs, but some people do, you know, like good.

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Speaker 3: The only person that's happy about this, or the only thing that's happy about this is Tofu, a toxin who is going to be now having dash because you know she was Tofa was pretty much a pandemic dog and had dash it around all the time. And now all of a sudden she's gone. She's like, what the buck, you just abandoned me. But now she's back, and she's going to be back for it's going to be a solid year before she's back on tour, and that's just I'm just so sorry for her. It's just terrible.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, in terms of all of the players that you've seen throughout your career and playing and broadcasting and coaching, who's had the worst luck.

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Speaker 3: Oh, this is going to be She's got to be up there. I think del Potro for injuries, definitely on the guy's side. I think what happened to Dominic team after he just started playing great tennis and having that erist injury is really hard to come.

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Speaker 1: Back, especially when you hit one hand.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's just it's just such a hard injury I had myself, and it changes a lot of things in your technique, and I think that that's terrible for Dominic. I think that's unbelievably unlucky. But yeah, I would have to. I mean, shit, our buddy Andrea Peckri had a lot of injuries throughout her career career, but Dasher's got to go down to me. Of the current players, it's the most unlucky injury prone kid I've ever been around. I mean, the amount of injuries she's gone through has just been unbelievable. Yeah, so, Dasher, we love you. I know you like to listen to the pod sometimes, so and you have not a lot to do now, buddy, But but hang in.

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Speaker 1: There, keep making TikTok.

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Speaker 3: Hang in there. That's she's the best. She is the best TikTok.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about Nomeo Sakon just because she.

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Speaker 3: Was the Where is Naomi Osaka? I'm playing this week? She's not. I mean, you're worried, right, you think she's I don't.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't look good, it doesn't. She looks miserable. And I think based on the stuff that she's been seeing and tweeting, and you know, listen, nobody defended her more vociferously than we did when she was, you know, sort of in a conflict with the French Twans Federation, and uh, you know, I I stand by my critique of a lot of the tennis apparatus as being dated and ossified and not in step with, you know, sort of the modernity of how to deal with talent. On the other hand, it seems like she's kind of a shell of a person and other than her many many many, many, many, many sponsorship obligations that was a lot. I would not be even turning up.

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Speaker 3: She's not a tennis player.

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Speaker 1: That's like tennis or is her friend Craig like to say, if you want to be a tess player like tennis like And there's a tournament in her backyard right now in San Diego, and it wasn't even a question if she was going to play it or not. It was just assumed she wasn't going to.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy. I don't know what's happening. I don't know. I mean, she's got her dad now coaching her again, and she's got no coaching and I don't even know if I would take that on.

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Speaker 1: Like, that's a lot, Yeah, that's a lot. I think in a lot of these cases, you really have to think about, like, you know, you as a coach, you have the experience working with a lot of different types of people. But if the desire or the love isn't there, yeah, I mean I.

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Speaker 3: Do never worked with anyone that didn't want to get better. Yeah, And they all got better because they want to get better. Yeah, you know, and that has nothing to do with the coach, you know. I mean, the coach can help, There's no question about it. You can lead them and steer them in the right direction. You can say that things that can help them sure get into that mindset, but in the end, you're like taking a horse to they got to wand it so so I don't know what's happening here, which which is the interesting thing about this, you know Jang Shun tech match that's going on right now, is that you know, it's a set to eager and eager just I mean, her name is perfect, right, She's an eager she wants to play. She's you know, coming from Europe, she's getting on a plane traveling for it's motivated to be the best player. And she's young. And let's hope she keeps that mindset because it's going to be it's going to be a slog for the next couple of years. I mean it's a lot, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're making.

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Speaker 3: Ten to twenty million dollars. To keep motivating yourself like that, it's not easy. That's why Serena and Roger and Rafa Novak, you know, they've got so much respect from the tennis community.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Andy too, and knows what it takes to do what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: That's why they're so respected.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, and you know, I think the tennis world could and should help them out by being thoughtful about the amount of events, by being thoughtful about how much distance there is between some of these events. You know, Ego was very unhappy with the if or scheduling some of the BJK Cup matches in Europe right after you know, this swing in North America is happening. But I think, yeah, that was terrible, and I think she was right to critique it. But you know, everybody wants to get If there was one thing I could immediately wave my magic wand and change about tennis professional tennis anyway, it would be the fact that there are seven governing bodies, each of whom are good luck out in their own well. I think it's just you would force some of them to be subservient to others. And then, you know, I hope more than ever that private equity comes in and buys a whole chunk of these this tournament landscape and governing buddies and makes them cooperate.

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Speaker 3: It's not a great time of the year to be in southern California. I mean, they've had some pretty shitty days of rain, and you know, some of like the heart. So like being Scotland, you know, in the coastal parts of San Diego, you get that sort of miss that comes in. So the weather hasn't been great. And I used to play there in July, so the weather was just absolutely ideal and perfect. So ideally it would be better to have this tournament in July. Yeah, and then maybe have some indoor tournaments in the US. And that's the way we used to do it. We had Philadelphia and Chicago and that was such great tournaments. So and of course we had the WTA finals at Madison's Madison and I played my first ever championships were their finals and I played that a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: So MSG needs to be the Yeah, needs to host that.

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Speaker 3: Majors. Yeah, we just got to get the sponsors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, Bill gits aig.

00:21:10
Speaker 1: Oh, let's talk about some of the power plays currently happening in tennis.

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Speaker 3: We're hearing a lot of rumors.

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Speaker 1: Nothing we can confirm about the Tennis Channel, but it seems like things are in a major period of upeople over there. Todd Martin is leaving the International Tennis Hall of Fame to go join Ben Navarro, the new owner of Cincinnati This is the kind of inside baseballly stuff, but it's the stuff that I'm watching to sort of be like, huh, if there are signals being sent because of the increased popularity of tennis, both recreationally and in terms of viewership, sponsorship, ticket sales, attendance, all this stuff, what a great time it might be to get some group together, yeah, and get some consolidation happening in this sport where instead of getting everyone battling against each other, you had a few. You know, I don't like turning on the tennis channel and hearing one voice doing a match.

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Speaker 3: It kills me. I so honestly would rather have nobody calling it.

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Speaker 1: There's so much critique about the Tennis channel.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's I mean, listen, it's a tough business, right, and it costs a lot of money to have talent called tennis matches and produce them and all of that sort of stuff. So you know, look, I know how hard hard it is to do that, and you too. But they're having the one person do on tennis channel like me, and they're putting people on there that are not experienced at all in broadcasting, and so they're not giving them a great player. They're sort of throwing them to the wolves.

00:22:44
Speaker 1: And I think it's fantastic to watch a match with no commentary.

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Speaker 3: I wish that was more of my actions.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you accept if I'm doing. Of course, nobody.

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Speaker 3: Would argue thank you with that, but I do.

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Speaker 1: I watched Tunisia last week and you know, not a lot of the matches, not every match had I think that's great. I will dine turn tennis on for the commentary, right, and so if you're mean tennis match will be really thoughtful about being additive. And I think the Tennis Channel, yes, it has a tough road to hoe, but I try to listen to World feeds whenever possible.

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Speaker 3: Well then I come on, No, Weld feeds are horrendous for sure. I just think for me, there is so much room.

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Speaker 1: For improvement with with the product of this, and I think I would say that as you know about everything. I think it's the fashion. I think it's I think it's the commentary. I think it's the events. I think it's the design. I think the way that you know San Diego got a great field, their merch is embarrassing and there's not great brand equity in that space. Listen, we'll do it for you next year. But like, there's there's ways that this stuff can be so much better, and I and I want it to be so that I can you.

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Speaker 3: Know, we We've literally got the Tennis channel on right now watching this Eager issue on tech Match, and she just hit the most amazing sliding on the line. She is so fun to watch because her sliding, her ability to get around the court, and her mobility is really fun to watch. This match so far has been pretty good. So what are you saying. You're saying the future of tennis is in whose hands? We just need to find somebody who wants to be creative.

00:24:21
Speaker 1: And if you get a lot of money and you've got some big ambation.

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Speaker 3: It's something for you buy.

00:24:27
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I just think like so much of what we look at in this sport is defined by what's come before. And I just really want to emphasize when you spend time outside of the world of tennis, maybe it's in in my case media or in your case broadcast, that's not just tennis related. It's looking at the world in a bigger way. You spend a lot of time in the art space. You see how fast and how enthusiastically spaces are are modernizing and innovating.

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Speaker 3: And also I cannot believe how many people, for example, in their art world, are absolute diehard tennis fans. I absolutely love tennis fans. I mean, you know, like Jerry Saltz sent me a book here it is right here, sent me a book because he's become a friend of mine and he loves tennis and he watches and I go to ant Fizz.

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Speaker 1: And Jerry Saltz is a Pulitzer Prize winning art critic. Yes, and there's so many ways in which our world of tennis talks to and is in dialogue with these other worlds. And I wish the tennis powers that be would have a little bit more of imagination about embracing it and taking lessons out of it.

00:25:35
Speaker 3: Right, bring the people into the sport more.

00:25:38
Speaker 1: I just happened to meet a gentleman who owns that one a couple of hours ago. I know, you've become friendly with and just thinking about the innovations in the way that the sport was broadcast, the fact that all of a sudden, allowing the cameras, cameras and the commentary and the media and the storytelling and the documentary films and the play.

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Speaker 3: Interesting to see how that goes right to share content Netflix. Yeah, I mean, I.

00:26:06
Speaker 1: Hope that tennis is looking outside of its borders and allowing a little bit more porousness based on the tennis world's reaction to racket and finally sort of accepting us as at least not going away. I'm encouraged that you can, by being persistent, sort of convince people to that change is not always scary. But I do wish it were faster and a little bit more nimble, and that the same old men who were in charge of everything, would you know, make some room.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we're gonna find out. We're going to see the end of this year. Obviously, Novak won the tournament a couple of weeks ago, and after what happened to Wimbledon, he's, you know, climbing Greg getting some more points. So I think everybody that got screwed there in the point situation that was rough on everyone. Look, the last couple of years has been tough on a lot of people with the pandemic, but tennis is healthy, very healthy. We added five million people that want to play tennis.

00:27:04
Speaker 5: In the USCA in a study added five million people, many of them black and brown, in the US alone during the pandemic alone.

00:27:15
Speaker 1: That number dwarfs the total amount of people who play other pretend.

00:27:19
Speaker 3: Sports that are pickable.

00:27:21
Speaker 1: Well. I don't even like to use the name. It's the NFT of sports.

00:27:24
Speaker 3: What are we calling it? West minton?

00:27:26
Speaker 1: Worstminton? And that indicates to me that whatever.

00:27:31
Speaker 3: I got a great text from Mary Trump saying what last week or the week before? And she does listen to a podcast, Mary, and she texted along something along the lines of I just turned the tennis channel on and they've got fucking pickball ball on. What the fuck?

00:27:46
Speaker 1: Well they're getting paid, which I understand that, which indicates the tennis channel might not be doing very well financially. Tennis is not great about telling its own story, because if it was, we would be hearing about how it's outpacing the growth of all of the racket sports combined. And that's the sport that I play, that's the sport that we love, and that's the one that in some ways is for sale. So anybody listening to this with giant bags of money, who wants to grab up a bunch of stuff that's undervalued and under optimized. Thank us out for dinner, but beloved, take us out for dinner.

00:28:13
Speaker 3: And that's it. That's it, all right, I'm not I'm gonna go and cook some dinner for your family.

00:28:16
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make stick.

00:28:18
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go. You know what I'm doing Right now, I'm about to get dressed, undressed, just an fyie for everybody. But I'm about to get changed, and I'm gonna go meet my five of my oldest friends. Two of them I've been known since I was five years of age, Rosemary, and they're still racy with and we're still friends. And they've flown all the way from Australia to New York and we're gonna have Girls Week here in New York. We're gonna have loads of fun. So for everybody that likes my Twitter feeds and my Instagram, shit, you might not hear from me as much on Twitter because I'm gonna be a little busy having.

00:28:51
Speaker 1: Fun making out my new Australian freezers to spring on us. All yeah, all right, until next.

00:28:57
Speaker 6: Time, Until next time, everybody, extrall listing They and Caitlyn, you didn't come to the block party last week in Brooklyn and Bedstide.

00:29:09
Speaker 3: But I just want to give.

00:29:10
Speaker 2: A huge shout out to our DJ who does the music at the start of our show, Stretch Armstrong, who was just pumping out the absolute best hip hop, R and.

00:29:23
Speaker 3: B rap from the nineties and it was just so much fun and it was so great and stretched my head of the last and you missed it, Kaitlyn, But I'm sad.

00:29:32
Speaker 1: I was cooking dinner.

00:29:33
Speaker 3: I know, I know, so Stretch. It was awesome, much fun and I'm definitely coming to the next one.