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seen for the record. Yea hey man, it'd be like
that sometimes. I'm saying.
It's like, once you make the decision that you're gonna
go for it, you might as.
Well go all the way.
Yeah, they're gonna take the money and time no matter what.
What's the same by the way to no matter what
I mean, it varies, but like if you're gonna if
you're gonna wild out, you gotta go all the way
with out. Heah, you gotta get your money's worth, get
your money's worth.
That's good to know this. I got a couple of
good ones. You know what I'm saying.
Now, do y'all say that on your statement? Like the
little part minser, they go ahead and take it out
like immediately they take they should like support come off
the top. That's come out to check. That's going right
off the top. But you could you could fight some
of them boom. Yeah, the ones I did you can't
know that. I was actually happy the last one that
I was. I had a very good phone call, like
I appreciate y'all. You know what I'm saying. I thought
it was gonna be worse. I thought it was gonna
because he jumped. Like when he jumped, it made like
like I hit him. I got my phone after the game, like,
oh we hit the ref. I'm like, man, we I'm
six ft away from him. He jump, he flinched. Yeah,
that damn knowing that all of them is the same,
that's pretty dope. Though the regular tech regular check.
Is what it's sorry, something like that, you know, keep
God of your life.
Might be ricky.
I think Moms was like fifty k okay.
But what about what about the niggas the big eyebrow,
the one that said something about dudesny brothers. Yeah, yeah,
so you you just was like nah, I cussed him out,
but he kind of was like, I ain't know it
was your mama, bro nigga that resurface recently.
Two I did. Yeah, this is a crazy list right here.
The first one two bands, six and ten, three eleven
to fifteen, four, sixteen and up. Damn man holding it
down in the local boar, damn five a piece, it's crazy.
Then It's like the main thing for me was like
you see the reputation then, like I had a whole reputation.
I still got the reputation, but the rest of that
year it was ugly. I mean, I don't shoot no
free throws. I might be decent now because I'm the
president again, but yeah, other than that, it was ugly,
like I'm like.
Yo, y'all painting me like I'm one of them. Yeah,
when he talked about all the time, what's your name
in that reco and yeah, Zebra Rico different, it's hard
to get that back.
Man Midwest guy for Shaw growing up in Illinois hoops
and was crazy Chicago.
How was that? Like, I know, obviously you was killing,
but they say you didn't get as much.
Like love or deserve well deserve love because you didn't
play on the A U circle around the white Yeah
it was cool. I mean we played everywhere. We played
Indiana a lot, probably more than the Illinois. I mean
you go to Chicago sometimes, but in Indiana had the
better tournaments.
Like you're from the Maryville two one area.
They had the speech joint out here. Yeah, yeah, he
used to play the Indiana teams in my class was
all the good teams, so I should love playing who
was your class?
Yogi oh sho Yogi, Indiana Legend.
Indiana the League, yeah speech heat. Yeah yeah. We played
a couple I think Glenn Robinson. Yeah, yeah, so I
played against them, Hannah Perera, like all of them teams,
the didas joint. So ship, We've come out here and
get some bump and then know it was it was
tough By Parker was younger than me, but that that
that era. But yeah, I mean, you know, you circ
and then like maccurby fire and by the time I
got to the point where I was like a teenager,
I thought I thought I was grown. So it's like
they was already too late. They coming like with the
shoe bag and all that ship, like come play for us.
I'm like, man, I'd rather just play my homies because
I'm not from the city. I'm from down the way
you're from. Yeah, Hey, y'all got a motherfucker restaurant. Y'all
got salt down there. It's so good. Yeah yeah, that's
about like forty five minutes, like you know that. Yeah, yeah,
what wrong? Yeah, yeah, promised Nigga salt. It's so good, bro,
and that right, that's the best one. Why Jesus Christ,
I got a c bag.
They got a written by But like, why did you
glass potatoes?
Huh? Yeah? Did you go? Why I got put? I'm
gonna stay in the city. You can stay outside of
the Rockford, you know what I mean. It ain't a
bad drop to go over to the city, like forty
five minutes from all with free. I know why you
was out. You know what I'm saying.
Expect I had a move, a little tournament get back,
said Mark, you throw the rock for big sure, but yeah,
as quick overhau.
It's definitely out the way, definitely. That's fun still.
Yeah, So it was cool, like I'd rather play my
homies and you know, trying not to get caught up
in that other ship.
And that was it.
And then by the time I was in high school,
we was beating all the good teams. So I was
super cool. We just ain't had the shoot ship, the
sponsorships and all that.
Ain't it crazy now?
Obviously it was about the college situation where you went
to man, you made your move saying what you state
with the n IL and stuff. Now, how you think
it would have been, especially the way I had that camp.
It's rocking when you was there. Yeah, we could have never.
We could have never had the teams that I had
with in I would have been gone off there. Yeah,
two one hundred thousand, I'm out, so I don't even
need too much. But it is money in Wichita and
the coach that we had, yeah, he would have got
the money out the community. But yeah, I mean it's
so much, bro. You eighteen nineteen, Like, that's just a
lot of money.
Bro.
You know what I'm saying. It's really fucking up the
game in terms of like your mindset, because my whole
mindset was like I'm going to Wichitar. I'm kind of
out the way. I ain't really have like no college life,
the shit you see when you're growing up, like the
parties and all that, which you time have none of
that shit. You go to the bar and I was
in a laugh. I'm like, man, I'm trying to go
to the league. I'm gonna have no fun in the league.
So if we would have been getting paid back then
it would have been stupid. Yeah, you talk about that
all the time, Like you said, if I'm getting paid
one hundred bands, two hundred bands at eighteen, where's my
hunger at?
Because I already made it and most people it would
have been over from over It was all right, you've
seen me my rookie year. He was over man.
But it just I don't know, man, I think that
I'll come from the crib too though. It was cool.
Yeah, yeah, I'll be cool with that little cheese.
Bro. Think about if you get in. Let's say you're
a top top player, you get a million your first year,
and somebody tell you can get this for the next
four years.
I'm not thinking about the NBA at all. Yeah, all
million dollars. If I'm the top motherfucker, I'm out of
there for sure.
But it's a lot of other players that, like I'm saying,
I'm just speaking for myself, Like I wasn't on these
draft never none of my four years, so it's like
I had to keep. But if I would have been
getting like a seven fifty or something, I would have
been like, like, you know what I'm saying, And Overhead
went to Miami, Nagel ranging up, start throwing parties, r
Alklahoma got another bang, right, I wouldn't been thinking nothing
about that would have brought a you know me, I'm
crap prob about Lambeau.
At no bills.
You had sent something to the crib follars. Make sure
mom and them straight and dad five bands a mom outside.
You're a teenager, still really real, real, Fred? I was live. Yeah,
I was burning maxwell that thing I'm saying. But if
I'm there, I still want to go to the league.
Did you have like aspirations to go to the league
or did you want to be the best college player
you want to Hell? No, I hated college. I wanted
to go to the league. My sad every day we
trying to get to the league. I just was crazy
enough to think I was going to go right away,
you know what I'm saying. I didn't even start my
freshman year, Like, I came off the bench till like
the once we went to the tournament, I started playing
more and more, and then my sophomore year we had
a real good team. We was number in the country
that year. Yeah, so that's when the scouts started coming
to practice and ship. Okay, I'm lit, but I had
a good miss ship. I set up with Sweden College.
I wasn't trying to lead too fast. You know what
I'm saying. I was trying to get drafted. That was
my main thing. Like I thought I could work up
the draft boards, but that shit don't work like that. NA.
Like you said I had a whip, Well Clinstone was there, Yeah,
Ron Baker, Yeah, Ron Baker, I had a whip.
I had pros on that team. Yeah, we had a
good ass team, bro.
But I think I had a good coach too, And
I was just because, like we got a lot of
young guys on our team. Now, like a lot of
the kids that's come to the NBA now, they don't
know how to play, damn. So like I was just
happy that I had a good coach who taught me
how to play. So by the time I got to
the league, I kind of you know what I'm saying,
the transition was here. I had a good foundation to
go off of that helped me a lot. Yeah, you
always talking about that email. As a high schol coach,
like I'm having to teach stuff that we should learn
the elementary school now that kids they're not kids, but
should against the NBA and having to learn how to
pick a rolling ship. They learned their game backwards. Now
ship you do. You do all the difficult ship first.
You know what I'm saying. By the time you get
you know, it's like a certain age, like if you
can't shoot by the time you eighteen, you probably cooked.
You know, you ain't so gifted that you can't deny it.
Damn If you can't shoot right now, you're kind of caught.
And it's the NBA. It's hard. It's hard to add it.
Ipecting the job boyout. If you can't shoot by eighteen
and you got to be six eight, I'm saying, so
you got to have something, got to jump off the screen.
I used to scout. We need to say, what's this superpower? Right?
So if your superpower is I can't find it when
I'm looking at you, ship you cook. I need to
come in the gym and be able to see your superpower.
Media like.
He can shoot you. Shooting the most important thing to
get somebody into the NBA right now? Yeah, I think,
so what what's what they're paying? Yeah? I think I
mean size, just being tall, just you know that's always
gonna win. Oh yeah, athleticism because that's what it is.
It's like you gotta be a freaking nature out there.
That's what everybody got to survive. But I mean shooting
is the separator to me, Like if you can shoot,
the better, the more better you can shoot, the better
your chance is gonna be. Because that's what they're paying
for right now, Stason and shooting, you know what I'm saying.
And so if you don't have that, you just have
more of a disadvantage. So your other ship gotta be
off the rule you never got to be a superior
athlete much better. Yeah, you gotta have a competitive nature too,
Like that's the one thing I always appreciated about your game,
even being a smaller guard, Like I wasn't a defender
at all, but you was actually known for your defense.
So when you came in the league, I was like,
it's my fucker really be guard. I was like laughing
at him, like a try hard as fuck, like I
don't know. And then he started scoring. Always been a
good shooter, but then he started to adding more and
more to his game, but he was known for defense.
Like when I watched you in the finals, guard and Steph,
yeah he really guarding stuff, Like he doing a good job.
Like what the fuck, man, you gotta be cool with that.
I knew niggas was laughing at me. I ain't you
know what, I just don't talk like I'm just from
me being in Houston. People just realize I'm not from Canada,
you know what I'm saying, So like you don't know
I came.
I ain't had no VC, I ain't have no nothing
like got out the mud.
You know what I'm saying. But I'm out that bitch
picking up full court. I remember my rookie year. I
think I played in ok SEE or we played OKC
and I picked up Russ full court, and I remember
everybody's like, what the fuck you doing? Man? Like nobody
picked him up full court. I'm like, shit, I'm trying
to figure it out, you know what I'm saying, Like
I gotta find a way somehow fucked. So I was
willing to do whatever damn to make my way. So
now that was the way I got in. I was like,
all right, you gotta play d you gotta change the
game and change the temple. That was like the two
things that I tried to do, and then the offense
came later.
I was just.
About to ask you that, like we transition from college
to going to the NBA, what was that, like, bro Man,
it was cool. It was hard because I was trying
to make it like I was trying to find some security,
you know, from being undrafted, Yeah, not having a guaranteed contract.
I was just trying to get some security, like a
year or two then I could work on my game.
So that first part was tough.
And then once I realized, like I wasn't playing, I
was just enjoying it.
You know what I'm saying, I'm in the league. I'm chilling.
I mean skittles on the bench, like I'm just watching
the show.
You know, That's how I go. And then like when
you don't have no chance of playing, you really just chilling,
traveling and you outside. Sure, so I did that, but
I worked on my game every day and I studied
every day, you know what I'm saying, And I just
stuck close to the vest that I had. And so
that was like that first initial transition. And then once
I started playing, then I built it a little bit,
you know more from there.
But at first I was just happy to be here.
I'm still happy to be here, but I was just
super happy to be in the league at that point. All. Yeah,
obviously a lot of respect how you got to the
NBA and came grinding and like major way in the situation,
very admirable. But it's funny. Now you went to the
G League and made the most of it and got
back in the league. Now you got people in the
G League trying to go back to college, like like, yeah,
I'm in the G League, fucking back to my school.
The times is wicked what I think about that, because
I don't know. I got a different couple of opinions
on that, because I feel like.
Ship saying, you gotta get back.
If I played in the NBA, if I guarded Fred
van Fleet and I played the whole season or two
in the NBA, NIGGA, I'm not going back to goddamn
at Boston University.
I'm not knowing that, Bro.
But if you're not getting I think it's been nobody
that did that. I think it's like it's bro, it's
to be people that small. I mean games and he
playing in the league. They said, That's what I'm saying, Like, Bro,
if you if you because they're young, right, That's what
I'm saying, they're young. Yeah, so if you young, and
just Ship, you jumped early and they ain't work out
for you. They getting paid anyway. All that college right,
you should have. It's just really the new G league,
the better league. It's a better G league. The only
thing I was gonna say was we let the the
European can come up whenever. Yeah, that's a fact. He
could sign with college. They can go pro. They can
do it. There's no restrictions on them. Let's see, I
ain't no band on European.
So they I'm not argue I'm saying. I'm saying.
But then, like the kid from Baylor got all the attention.
I don't know how many of us done it. Ye
seen the kid from Baylor, But.
Like, man, he ain't impacting the game, like you know
what I'm saying. Like if he was.
Coming like he was a National Player of the Year
and be like, all right, you're tripping still Bailey. If
he get to play college, he gonna have a run.
He gonna kill you know what I'm saying. But ship
they pros now, so you know the pros gotta play
against pro That's like Charles Dago when they played forty
yesterday and they start beating they was just like GE
league drop out. I'm like that's yeah. Now you go back,
you gotta kill. That's my problem. Got to kill if
you go back average ten.
Niggas putting pressure on down gotta go back.
Average twenty five. Don't make more money. Yeah, everybody CROs
at this point. Yeah. I never going to stop you anyway.
So he going back. He ain't never go but it's
your time. Old Sea coolb twenty with Brownie probably twenty three,
probably twenty three. Now that was the thing that will
to suck it up and brought it went back to
USC had been fired.
That's hard, but he bad. I think Brian and Brownie
should go to a house state.
Front, all three of them anywhere twenty three, so he do. Hey,
bron got four years, he need to go to Marquett
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Well that's like the they average age like twenty five. Yeah, yeah,
I told hold on hold one of them digga. Nobody
say nothing about that. We were resparing to take the show.
See look after age is twenty three. That's hope we
hear we good money.
I just don't they all seen.
Just being pros and went back to play with the
young pro That's crazy because if I'm not going to,
if I'm not going and I don't have better years
to aj at the bassa or oh boy from Kansas
is quiet, bro.
I think that I think the real issue they're not
better than them.
Jeff probably know you coach in high school, So like
I think the high school kids get the short end. Yeah,
all the this ship because it's likely your coaches just
in the portal or they're going to get yes, bro
pro So like that. It's harder for a high school
kid to get recruited and come in and play. You
gotta be like stupid, nice, you gotta be McDonald's all
American now. Yeah, but like you said, you look right now,
and the best player of some of them at least,
and they say it right now, all freshman with show
and they putting them to automo niggas. But I like
it because like if you you know, a lot of
people want to go high major and they go there
and they don't play right away or get a chance,
so they might play junior senior year. Now you can
go to a lower level school D lower D one
be and major. If you're really good, you're gonna shine there.
I agree with you on that. I like that.
I'm saying, do you bring these motherfuckers back to the
to the college. Do they get drafted? Now it's quiet,
it's over.
You ain't going back back then.
Life. Y'all drafted twice. Make sure y'all trying to get
higher level for oversea. Hey, y'all remember this day. But
I went drafted twice. It's crazy. I wait for the
person to go back and really killed. I wait the
one twenty five go back to college and go to
the final fours. Bro, I want to see that. Yeah,
I do too, I do.
I think should be the same.
If we're gonna let Europeans do, or people from overseas
or form people like, let them come. Whatever they should
be able to do, we should be able to do.
And I think the NBA is going to step in
at some point and make it makes sense because like, ultimately,
the league would be better if those leagues are better.
If college and the G League is better, that's gonna
give us better players too. They'll step in at something.
League gonna have to step in because I would never
go to I wouldn't go straight to the G League.
You got, I would never go to college. I go
in to G League first and see if I can
make it to the league. I can't going to college.
Yeah whatever, step on college campus first for what. Yeah,
I got a chance to go back, I go overseas.
I'll do all that stuff first. Damn, that's funny for sure, man,
that is crazy.
I'll go back.
It's a hell of a fallback player. But it just
looked crazy. Bro, Like we're talking about it. You've been
on campus with fucking nineteen year old Yeah, Bro, I
mean that's college. So I see why people will go though, Like, true,
it's pretty money. They need to open a straight out
of high school again though, because like yeah, because Darreon
Peters said he did the best.
That was pointless.
Bro. Yeah, big players, Yeah, it's pointless in college right now.
I know they're making a lot of money, but what
we're doing bro, yeah, they both of them is bro.
Yeah who we're black?
He did a year, come on bo, pointless years? Yeah, yeah,
that is crazy. Shout the stack house, stack house, I
got Jamal Mashburn. Bro. Cooper Flag would have been top
five this year as well. Bro, he said he was
this year he reclassed for a reason. I'm like, nah, bro, respect,
I know that the freshman's cold, but Cooper Flags just
didn't have fifty.
Bro said he wouldn't have been top up.
Yeah, he said he'd have been number sick. He put
the doctor Lamar on it. So I ain't mad at it.
I get just like his three month I'm rolling as well,
But Cooper flagging drop fifty. He nice if he was
at Duke with Gambos right down, Oh my god, yeah
he nice. He probably be the number two picks the age. Yeah, yeah,
he gonna be a step ahead.
And then he got a year on Now he nice.
I fuck with his game.
Back to you, bro, when you first got your real
footing in the league, how that feels? Man?
We got your shot?
Man? Uh, my first deal, My first deal was two years,
and I signed another two years. Yeah, and then so
it was like two years eighteen man, Man, that was it.
I was cool. I never looked back. I ain't going back,
you know what I'm saying. I played a little bit
like forty games my rookie year. I was like a
backup my second year and then I got a contract.
I'm like fuck. And then my third year we won
the chick Hell. Yeah, like shit, I'm lit, you know
what I'm saying. Twenty five got paid, made some money.
I was. I was like, I'm here because like, you
think you're good, you got confidence, you know you're good.
You play against your peers and shit like that, but
you're always waiting on us, Like, like I said, some security,
you know what I'm saying, especially when you come in
and you see like a guy that's drafted lottery or
the first round, they get four five years to figure
it out.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
So you had time, Like my ship was like, you're
just waiting on the opportunity, you know what I mean,
gotting down no deals? No hell no. I mean I
always tell people like they're begetting that shit misconstrued, bro,
Like you only can operate with the deal that's on
the table. It's a fact what's on the table. So
you be turning down some ship that's on the table
for some ship that is imaginary. Yeah, So whatever the
best deal on the table is, That's what I'm going
every time. That's about right there right here.
I still like for gave Queen grown getting money. But QG,
what's the hell of again? I told cam Thomas said, though,
yeah on leave that change.
I like that money. Bro, you don't know what's gonna happen.
Part about the NBA is damn you dirty black if
you don't take it. Yeah, President still y'all you ain't
to say, yeah, it's just business. Yeah, I think even
more so the basketball just business? Like how can you
negotiate with some ship that you don't even have available
to you. Like, I know I'm worth more than that. Like,
all right, you work for they tell you what you're working. Yeah,
you work market willing to pay you. So then when
you don't, you're in the tunnel trying to smack people
the market. You gotta put hands the feet to people
that disrespect your paycheck. Did you do something crazy for
the first piece of change? Nah, I'll really be chilling.
I bought it roly. Yeah, that was like my first thing.
I bought it.
Really, I already bought my Mama crib.
When I on my first deal, I was making like
five hundred thousand my first year that my second is
nine hundred. So I bought my Mama crib. And then man,
we went to Vegas though, we definitely went to Vegas
at the game. Took all the guys in Vegas. We signed,
and then we flew with the with the management from
Toronto to Vegas for summerly and yeah, we had a time.
We had like a three four day trip. Yeah, fresh
after Fresh after bag about a roll lead. That was it, though,
I don't know, I just he's from a small town.
Yeah, different he had a fight for that spot. He
was like, I'm enjoying this, Bro, I'm happy I got it.
I'm not. I was like a regular person before I
was in the NBA, Like when I was in college,
I was lit, but like, Bro, I was, I was
a regular person, Like nobody know who I am. You
know what I'm saying, Like I wasn't coming in I'm
just a superstar and everybody kissing my ass. Like I
had to grind for that ship. So that's it was
a little bit easier for me when I got the money.
Now I still fu some money up. Yeah for sure,
for sure what I'm saying, as we all do. But
I think like jury and ship like that cars. But well, no,
I worked too hard for mine for that. Like you said,
getting into rotation, You look at that squad of people
I had. Everybody, damn are still around, still thriving. All
Star Yeah yeah, he got squad.
Come on, bro, everybody became all.
And Pasy got his first All Star fish Peasy Yeah,
you know, my god, freaky pig, my god peace skills
for a time first ballot now being balance skills, I'm
fucking with it. I just think you know, pee skills,
you holler at me if you feel the way I
thought you had to be a winning team to make
the start game. No, I don't hate nobody all startized,
but it's the east Man. Anything goes in the East.
He's still living off the twenty fifteen snub of LaMelo ball.
That's what he all right now, well last year, yeah,
like LaMelo didn't make it, Bro and Peace Skills got in.
That's bullshit. I ain't gonna hate it, Bro. I think
real like none of the rules.
I think you the president all look, I think when
it comes down to it, now, when you get to
that point, you you're gonna pick somebody that's already been
in there open, somebody that's never been in Like I said,
you gotta you gotta have repeat years.
Yeah, I'm defending my man obviously.
At the same time I think that dude, dude like you,
you u picked somebody that already been an All Star,
then you would pick somebody that's not all It don't
work like, oh he not an m v P. That
give to somebody that never had it before. They do
like doing that ship voter Fatigua is real MVP.
But I don't know this.
The coaches so I think you know the coaches play
for the reserves. That's that's what you need to be
talking to an international player though, Yeah, so you know
they got the international world World creg USA versus the world.
You ain't rolling.
I ain't mad that.
I don't want friend you feel me, he I don't
want to mantroll the too bush, but no ship. I
want to hear what you think. But because there's too
many rules to make the All Star teake, I swore
to God the needle moves every year. But trash bro
kills is a killer.
Oh god he can.
Oh my mama, you shouldn't be no all war. So
you like Team Horrible Bro?
Like MPJ over him? Yes, Yes, I left my track.
I left my fuck that six seven. I left my
trash ass team that didn't fuck with me. Yeah, and
I'm over here killing now, Bro. No, I'm killing. I
got my own team, like, I left a championship team.
My fault, not trash ass a championship team. Now I'm
the man, I'm average twenty five. No, he's very deserving.
I think I'm never taking him over Pascal anything basketball related. No,
y'all real basketball players though, Bro, But All Star game
Nigga though that between his legs, that's the other thing.
That's the other thing too. That'd be My argument is,
like I think those lists should be different lists. Who's
gonna put the best All Star Game on? Yeah? All
Star Game should always have a Trey Young, a Lamello Kyrie. Yeah,
that's exciting, but we're talking about just like the best
players or like the best season. I'm not taking him
over pastcal Bro. I respect you. Nah if we if
we're doing the draft, don't God give me pass every
time I'm talking about for the excitement of this game,
like respect Bro, we need thirty and to see Lamello
and Ascal. It's always Bro. He's African too, so you
know on the world ship. Yeah, but it's always that's
deserving to be All Stars that don't make it every year.
In fact, it's gonna be a snub every year. Be out.
You just don't want it to be. Yeah, but I
deserve to be in there. That's a factor year because
they castulated in there this year New York. Yeah, that
is crazy, respectfully, I mean it's costing the towns. But
All Star year, I'm sleeve. But he really his numbers
like his numbers still say, say he's playing like a
what's what's kind of numbers two and thirteen? That's gonna
be respectable? Because for sure, what top for the All
Star playing like an All Star? Bro? We just expected
to play like twenty and eleven? All right, eleven, twenty twelve,
I'm round up. I got around that I'm respected twenty twelve,
killer Bro, all.
These niggas, I just be.
I just a bad year for CAS, that's all. I'm
gonna join B numbers I know. I know a't gonna
ever qualify because a different look for the league because
people are pulled away from it.
So what right?
So now, because I'm in the seat now and I'm
in the conversation, what would y'all change?
Go back to the regular jerseys? Now that I talk
all out? And B I know he'll play that much,
but twenty seven fucking crazy balling? Now that I'm talking
to the morotherfucker president, get this off, my goddamn.
Let's get it. Listen. I don't get right all these
goddamn I get it, bro, the foreigners, they run the league,
top players, I get it, But all these people playing
these the American play the foreigner and then you got
them play the G League niggas. Then you play the
American team, then the winners out of that play each other,
then the first to twelve. Like all this bullshit, bro
go back to when it was a regular nigga match ups,
like yeah, the best twelve versus the best twelve, no
matter where you're from, you like East West or yeah
East West or just blended. We just want to see
the All Star Game be a regular NBA game again.
Bro with you, I'll be having these same conversations. But
I think I think the fans got more more input
than they think they got because Adam, ultimately the league
is listening to what the fans want, what they want
to see.
He don't have like a.
Bias either way, you know what I'm saying. But we
do gotta fix this shit. We gotta address it, you
know what I'm saying. I think my thing was I
said the jersey. It was a simple thing, like I
come on back to like the jersey's Nike used to
do the shoes everybody had, like s Pacific shoe. And
I think you just get the best twenty four, the
top twenty four, and you're out of way to separate
the All star from the NBA.
Shit, you know what I'm saying, because it's like two
different things. I'm Roland.
I might want to be an All Star just for
my contractor for my purposes on some Jimmy Butler ship,
but I might not even actually want to play fact,
you know what I mean.
Or I'm hurt.
Yeah, but then you're taking away from somebody else that
could get in there too. So no, I'm with you.
But NBC Olympics coming up, you know, that's where the
world should come from.
And the.
European stuff, I'm certain years old has played in America. Man,
damn man, take that.
Having games or take that ship to China. Bro do
all these playing each other? Bro? I will play bring
bring back the vibes Man. They s something bro It
used to seeing Jordan's and goddamn Iris in Shaq and
whoever else bro others like that. Though. I think he
will talk to a couple of young guys this year
that said they're gonna they're gonna go put on the show.
So I'm hoping. I ain't gonna say who it is,
but he said, he said, I don't know everybody playing hard,
but I am. I'm hoping that I'm young. The young
next guys.
Once the old guys get out the way, the young
next guys can't bring that back because like the old
I mean, but Bro twenty two years in the road,
like you know what I'm saying, and he put on
the show every year, but it's just hard like for
them to fly somewhere and then put them in these
bullshit cities. You know, I want to see you go ahead, Shae, Yeah,
like call him bout me and yes, Bro, we need
to have to play harder.
Yeah, they didn't do that. We need we need, we
need to have to play what do you shoot? All
left hand shots?
Left year? We need have to play locky bro, compete
the dunk contest already gone. Bro, that's the smither rings.
Uh yeah, it's not coming back. What's what's that should cook?
What's my what's my? White boy from Georgetown? Y'all didn't
y'all didn't wash that niggain rinsed team off and Ruggie
mounted washed him and rink like he's cooked. He is
the fourth time, henb ain't that and that nigga can't
stay in the league. It's like they put the pop
ups on the next game. We don't like this for the.
Day right everywhere. He might get a ten day tomorrow. Bro,
that might be one hundred thousand, and listen, don't play
with my emotions. Y'all be having this.
Niggas go and do all this ship jump over people
and cars and ship sign the nigga nigga play twelve
games contest because we'll tell you next year. Yeah, bro,
it's me.
Because Jackson hangs a lot of rimes though.
But listen, if you get all that that, if you
get the name that you want in there, and they
go out there, I'm gonna coext you and miss and
do all that.
Then people gonna about to have a dunk contest between
tw Listen, nobody.
Disrespect to Max. Didn't nobody give a if he made
a mister No, I'm with you on that. DJ and
them young niggas get out there and now I didn't
get out there and try some crazy ship. It's gonna
be exciting. Yeah, they might miss it, but at least
you get to see the best players in the league,
or you didn't even got to be the best players.
It could be a medium tier guy. I look at
somebody a good example for me, Like I think Jaylen
Brown did it a year or two ago. Yeah, or when.
You know what I'm saying, that's what I'm don't know.
No turbo dunk don't help, Bro, I ain't Mike. I
ain't gonna say nothing.
When's Zach? When Zach and Aaron Gordon did it? Bro,
best players in the league.
They are like special dunkers. Though.
That's what we needed.
No more dunks, Bro, it ain't no more.
Yeah, it is all the conferences getting there. These YouTubers
be clowning, Bro. They dunk every single day. They are
basketball players. Bro. They moved there because you put them
in dollars up and think that would entire people to
do it. All right, contest, But also we just had
this conversation, so I also, I don't want to I
don't want to keep like throwing money in niggas face too,
Like I figure everything got a dollar amount to it, Like, oh,
y'all got to play hard, We're gonna give you money.
Like no, some ship gotta be for the love of
the game too, like because that's gonna bring more out
of it then, Like, yes, it should be a prize
some type of in center. But at some point, like
come on, bro, this is what we love to do too.
I don't think I e you a million dollars to
play in it because y'all get out their bullshit.
To win it. Yeah you got a chance.
Yeah, but then you're leaving it up to the judge
and now you're ready to fight. I'm something, Well, if
you give me for the time. Another thing y'all need
to do. How only do you you over the All Star?
You help pick we had coming? All right, y'all need
to get some niggas who ain't see now that's will
just get some motherfuckers who can see straight. I think
NBC doing I think, uh man, that's like.
The mail box. Yeah, they're and you talking a joys.
I meant you feel like like me right now.
I don't don't want to listen, friend, my guy, you
don't have to wish fine to nothing that I'm saying.
I want you just to hear what I'm saying. Let's
go all the way I said the mill Man.
Any nigga that played in the eighties, you can't mother
fucking watch these young niggas. You Paul Paul nigga, you
know what I mean. Throwing water get I think we
got convinced t Max here it is, You're like, yeah,
the dumb context because all them had hops, all of
them understand what to look for and some ship like that. Okay,
the judges this year, Kevin Garnet, I'm rolling Tracy McGrady,
Baron Davis and Jason Richards.
I don't got no live I'm talking with that.
That's what's happened. That's all I'm saying. Listen, That's why
I'm asked y'all because I funk with y'all. Just don't
be with them motherfuckers. That just up being just ship
on ship. Give us some solutions.
I'm rolling.
Listen, people listen to trying Bro. I'm saying I don't
be trying on that, but clearly somebody listen, y went,
I just got there there.
Let me yo.
Now.
My next motion is Jericho says, can never do the
dunk contest again?
After that.
That's one contest. I thought that was a wrestler.
Listen to Jake and he knew Joe fifty, ain't no
more dunks, bro.
Yeah we ran out no more. Listen. It's a kid
every day, would you nigga? This is some dump slip.
Like which I think about like a horse or some
ship like that, or won't we want some Pro Bowl
ship or won't we want like something else different than
what we don't got right now? I would like to
see one v one we all Star ones or King
of the Hill, three dribble something anything. I'm worried about
what that might. Yeah, ones don't look like how I
look on Instagram real lite of fact. God, that's like
you might shot the next chapter, like you run a
team minutes well making a shot.
So I don't know if that make good TV. Nah,
you need a rep too, and you need a rap.
If y'all went to five, you got three dribbles or
seven seconds? They have to play off like not live.
They have to just show it like that's what that's.
Don't worried about what one like. It don't really look it,
don't really go like that in real life. People playing
hard because the three point contest is going to be
the three point that's exciting.
That's the best thing.
But I'm like, there's got to be something else. You
could do some type of of course. So but been
so exciting. Yeah, I'm cool with that, bro. They kept that,
But that's a shoot. It's only so much nigga. I
mean it's a preem leg everybody many ways you can
shoot the three. I fuck with it because they get hot.
Probably the whole rack on, Yeah and be crazy. I
was in it right or y'all kicked him out. I
didn't do nothing. I just got in there. He I
don't know what's got, what they got going on? I supported,
I support the women. Shout out to the w at all.
What's going him? Every Yeah, I hope y'all know that.
We just walking around like I might change up a
little bit. I might be like a little more political correct.
We all came my I really die. Yeah, he said this,
nigga here, I'd be like.
No, I didn't mean to say that. I had to
be to ask you that.
No. I really don't know.
I have nothing to do with skill challenge, didn't you. Yeah,
I'm talking about I'm saying when he did that ship, bro,
it was to look it up. But what I'm saying
he missed everything that he did that they could have
gotten rid of that ship.
You were servis bro. You didn't want to do it.
He didn't want to do it. First, lay up, nigga. Yeah,
you don't want to be out there. That's what I'm saying.
No, I tried to win the second time I did.
I was I was trying to block. Yeah, I was horse.
I'll fun with that.
I think people literally love this ship and they care
about it, so we talk about it. But like you
look around, don't nobody else cared about MLB, n NFL
Pro Bowls and joke like everything else, everything else is
just like when it comes to the All Star Game,
it's just like everybody got something to say about it.
The only thing that's let me be.
There. Now, I missed the layer because Kevin Hart gonna
say you for he said, hey, nigga, don't miss the
layup and what I do.
The one I was trying to win. Oh yeah, this
is a different one. This is when I was trying
to win.
What city is this?
This might be New York? That's New York. Oh damn,
I want no passor Yeah? What went on for the sist?
What the fuck?
Aw long? Too long?
What the hell? Jared Smith show man? I don't know
what year is for?
Know what I'm saying. They bullshit and bro it's thirty
sav it's over cut the ship off out of the man.
You know, if you don't hear.
We don't worry about shot.
I shot my first three other side of the backboard
point contest. Damn. I was mad as I was mad
as fun and I was hurt.
Was you nervous? What? I ain't never been nervous in
my life. I'm talking, ship, I'm doing my thing. I'm
feeling good. I went to pick the ball up, Bro,
my bicycle shrink. Bro, I picked the ball up. I
shot that motherfucker and from the corner off the side
of the backboard, my homie that morning. Because they talked
me into doing it, I didn't want to do it.
Bro, we all start, Bro, you from Ryford do the
three point contest. Wife and Rfer never made to the
All Star game.
That's right, we go. I'm like, all right, big ship,
Yeah Bro, I was so nervous. The only thing going
on in the whole Yeah, Bro, you want to they
who replay on my I did the practice upstairs just
in Cleveland, So we did the practice them upstairs. I
broke a record. The dude was gassing, like man, nobody
never practiced like this before. You're gonna do great, Yea,
he got wake you the early thing.
On the court.
I've never been nervous like that ever in my life.
Kind of pressure, man, ar start weekend, Like you said, MLB,
at least they put it to where the winning hopeful
advantage in the World Series, and that'd be crazy in
the NBA if that happened, because a lot of people
be pissed off. I think this year is gonna be better, man.
I'm hopeful because it's l A. Yeah, you know what
I'm saying. We got a good mix, It's NBC. I
hope this year is better. And I'm not going off
for ratings. I'm not going off none of that ship.
I'm just going off all I care about the vibe
in the game. Yeah, I don't even care about Saturday.
I want the All Star Game to the people watch
like they hooping, you know what I'm saying. And I
think it will be like you said, concentrate efforts. Everybody
talking about it for years now. Even the player has
been more vocal, So I think it'll be dope for sure.
What was that like for you though?
Making an All Star team? Hearing your name club?
But she was unbelievable, bro, Like, I still can't believe it,
you know what I'm saying. I'll be laughing you I'll
be talking about the one time All Star shit. But
like like I was cool, you know what I mean,
Like it just came to the point where, you know,
my whole story up until that point, Like I thought
I could do it because the year before I was
like nineteen or something or eighteen and I was twenty
some shit like that, something in that range. And before
the season, Nick Nurse was like, man, we might need
you to score twenty four to twenty five nights. I'm like,
oh shit, I never had nobody tell me nothing like that.
I always gave like a play defense, get guys the ball.
I'm like, oh, okay, they see it. So I'm whooping
that year. You know what I'm saying. I'm like first
option type shit. Pascal was hurt, but it was dope
to come all the way down to that point. And
then only what.
Fucked it up was I got hurt.
I hit my knee on the floor like a week
or two weeks before Austin, but I ain't tell nobody
because I didn't want to give them on spot at
the game. So I was limping around the whole weekend.
So that part kind of ruined, and it was Cleveland.
It was ass, it was cold. It was just I
didn't have a good experience like making it to the
All Star Game and being in the locker room. And
it was the NBA seventy five that year when they
need to legends back. So like it was all of
us and all of them, Like that's something that's something
that I'll never forget. I couldn't never imagined nothing like that.
You know, you was there because we had different people
tell us about like when they said Michael Jordan name
compared to everybody else, what was it like? So it's
exactly what they said, because you gotta think I mean
you so like you got like the rehearsal. So, like
I said, we was upstairs, were taking pictures and I
was kind of like just chilling off to the side,
like behind was watching everybody. I'm looking at Ai, I'm
looking at everybody, and everybody's in there, everybody except for Mic.
So like you know, the chatter started, you know, like
oh Mike ain't coming, heren't fuck with us, or he
don't fuck with them. You know, they got the old
they got going on. So all the way down to
they doing the intros, they walking out, you know, what
I'm saying, nobody ain't seen them, so he nobody didn't
see him until they called his name, that's crazy, until
he was walking out, right, But he was tuk out,
So it was like the seventy five was going crazy.
The guys on the court was going crazy first, So
then when they called him out, it was like he
was like the last one, you know what I'm saying.
So yeah, and he different in that world. He different.
That's what showed for me because like, you know what
the fans think or you know what I'm saying, media
or whatever, but like for your peers, guys, that's older
you guys, that's younger than you guys you played against,
so respect him to be the guy in that setting
right there. I was like, damn, okay, that's different. That's
what they be talking Yeah, he number one that make
you look at somebody. Yeah, that's what they be talking
about when they like, ain't nobody fucking with Mike. I've
seen it in real life. You know what I'm saying.
For sure, he's automatic.
Was at LA somewhere right there. That's what I need
to do All Star weekend. Isaiah Thomas brother that lining
up the first one if we want MJ. Isaiah Thomas,
I ain't a lot of z ain't going. They're gonna
be banging.
Man's gonna fight. They still reacting to this day. They're
gonna be banging. What was that moment?
Like, obviously you was in Toronto, you had the corner
stocks of the franchise with Kyle and tomorrow that trade happening.
What was your first reaction to that that?
It was crazy? It was like, man, that was like
my welcome to the business moment, you know what I'm saying.
It was like, obviously you have. Everybody had they welcome
to the NBA. But that was the first thing. It
was like, Oh, this shit ain't no game. It's not au,
it's not college like because I was with Damar in
Vegas and this when the rumors started coming out, and
so basically the rumors started coming out and then they
was like, nah, it ain't true. True Like I seen
him in my sade talking, I'm not you know, whatever
they talked about they talked about, but like from seeing
them talking that summer league. So we had a like
a team dinner. Some teams do team dinners that summer league.
They bring him up because he had made All NBA
the year before. They bring him up in front of
the whole team, like, hey, tomorrow, you know what I'm saying,
All NBA whatever it was, I forgot the specific award.
They like, yeah, next year, tomorrow he gonna be playing
defense and he gonna take another step and we're gonna
come back. And then it was like a couple of
days later the trade. I'm like, dango, crazy, crazy game
bro wow, So imagine you know what I'm saying, just
knowing him and how he felt he got his own
you know, story of how it went. But from my position,
I was just like damn. And then the flip side
was the first report was that Kawhi didn't want to come.
That made it even work. It was like we traded
our man for somebody that don't even want to be here.
This was the narrative at the time, but all that
ship had worked out. Kaui is the OG definitely did
be here. He's OLG to DPU.
I want to show that's the reason why I made
it up.
And then at that point I hadn't played against Kawhi,
I think, but one time that was my first two years,
because he was hurt so I only played again, I
didn't see him. We didn't need to.
Here.
I ain't know what he was getting because he was
going through the injury thing at the time. Like I
ain't know what he was getting. I'm just like, man,
damn tomorrow is my brother, like to the de Bosn,
like that's my dude.
So I was fucked up about that.
And then Kawhi came and we was in training camp
and I was like, Okay, I get it, I get it.
I know why they did it. You know what I'm saying. Business,
it was tough hearing you talk about your potff, but
just what he was just like I don't know why
he traded for me, but fucking I'm here. Yeah, and
like that was just the move because you got to
think he really only talked to Kyle and maybe like Serge,
you know what I'm saying here and there, But like
he's not like a big energy guy.
Clearly we see he cool though in real life he's way.
More than what he do to the media. But like
if he come in the room and everybody in there,
he's not gonna just be the class clown in the room.
So I ain't really had that many conversations with him.
But his whole thing was just like ship. I told
y'all before y'all traded for me, like I ain't doing man,
But that makes it even more impressive to me because
like he still came and did what he was supposed
to do. He the first first ANA player to get
a want to done situation like, yeah, I got your ring, all.
Right, cool. I can't believe I wouldn't left. I don't
know how he left, bro. It's him, Yeah, the only
person in the history of the world that would have
did that. Only yeah, I too. He got to work
from home for the Clippers. You see what he was on.
He's like you had to be there, bro, talking about
have a whole country, Bro, like bound down, like a
whole country.
They said, we'll give you free rent what you need.
I wasn't throw one of that championship because I don't
do that. I can see it load, Oh do do it.
I don't want to talk about the Milwaukee Bucks nothing.
You don't matter. Wonder about that, brother, You were not
the only I don't respect. Before we get before we
get to the ship, y'all reaction with QUI hit that
shot to get over the sixers.
That was crazy.
Yeah, I was jumping around like a little kid because
you think I had a terrible series, worst basketball of
my life, saying I was just happy we was getting
more gang. You know what I'm saying, Like, I ain't
want to go out like that. My whole probably wouldn't
even be sitting here. The whole rest of my career
would have been different if am we lose that Game
seven because I didn't get hot till after that. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying.
I was shipped.
I was shipped up until that point. So to see,
like you know, I'm on the bench, it was in
front of our bench to see I'm like, damn, I'm
talking about We always just happy to get out of
that series that they Philly gave us a hell of
a series. That was a tough team. I know it's
different times when we talked about it. That was the
being same as that we all grew to love that
Ben Simons was cold and b too. They had a
with Yeah, he was different, Ji, Jimmy j It was
a big ass team. I think James Ands was on
that team squad. Yeah, that was a good team. Was
that deal bro? He special?
That's the best.
That's the best ship I ever seen, like in person,
Like watching him not k in the playoffs, I ain't
seen the playoffs is different. You know what I'm saying.
KD changed the way I view everything this year because
it's just like it's so easy for him.
Yeah, just he really be chilling, like he don't like
do too much.
He just wait. He can go a couple of minutes
without touching the ball. He won't say nothing, gonna stand
in the corner. He ain't a thirsty who nah. And
then he he just don't miss, like he don't miss.
You think makes it look easier him or se Kady?
I think so, Yeah, Shade ship looks so easy, Like
when I watch him play basketball, Yo, he's not eating
sweating brok. Yeah. I think I'm only saying from the standpoint.
Shady's seven ft tall, so like watching him shoot a
MIDI over Wimby. He don't see Wimby. That's crazy, you
know what I'm saying. He don't see bodies, he don't
see the help, he don't see the third guy. He
don't touch the rim. Shaye is special though. That's kind
of how I feel about Shadeough Like you know, I
watch him, I feel like he don't see nobody.
He get to that MIDI step back. Yeah, look like
the bickele. He working out, but he's doing the workout. Yeah,
he's doing the work.
Was sixty percent almost yeah, yeah hard, that's just insane.
And he just thirty Saturn So it's like yeah, and
it's still looks crazy. He's still the greatest score I
ever say that. What it's like, you just can't bother him,
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, you can't. You can't
make them do nothing you don't want to do. And
it's just every day. So you see KD in the
finals though, what was that like? Actually making it to
the finals, and it was like playing in the moment
You played to get some of the greats too in
that situation and you got your shut off as well. Yeah.
No, it was a blessing. It was an opportunity.
That's all you want, just like have an opportunity to
be there and still our heartest series with the Philly Series,
we went to Milwaukee, Milwaukee went down two and then
we beat them four times in the row light work
and then we go finals. KD was hurt, so we
win game one easy. Like I remember walking out, like, man,
we weren't celebrating or nothing. We was walking out. We
went in the locker room. I'm just like, damn this
shit sweet, you know what I'm saying. Because they was
built to be with KD. Without KD, we felt good.
But yeah, I mean shit, Steph Clay like to be
chasing stuff around. Were playing Boxing one and Ship in
the NBA finals and I'm the one. You're the ones
chasing them around like man was. It was just a
credible opportunity and you know, being able to make the
most of that Ship was special.
Yeah, you got to get a ring and gets some
of the greats too. That's fire.
Yeah. And I like I always tell people because they
was like when you go to stuff so good, I'm like, bro,
I'm playing the man in box and he still had
fifty in the finals, like he gave me fifty. Like,
and I was in the Boxing one and we was
trapping him every time and he was out there by hisself.
Oh god, you know what I'm saying, Like he said, Guard,
it's different. Kyrie is different from me, Yeah, because he
like Kyrie don't run no plays.
He's no like welcome to this island. Yeah, he's not
passing it.
He might dribble it twenty seven times, ugly, Like I
always after the game, like I need to see the
chiropractor and ship like you know what I'm saying, stop,
go boom, push off like he I love playing against Kyrie.
He the most challenging for me. Steph is just like
you need you need to hold full team because hes
running off of all the screeners and you can't fall asleep.
You can't. That's why I hated guards, Yeah, because I
like people will go one on one. I know where
you're gonna be at. Yeah, when you start running around,
I'm good, it's gone. I lost him one time, I
think in the finals. The whole time I was I
lost him one time he got a wide open three.
Every other time was on him. I just looked like
he was on the other side of the court. I'm like,
you can't even prepare for those like that. But like,
like I tell everybody the toughest person to guard with
de Rose like you feel about Kyrie. Yeah, yeah, you
knew where de Rose was gonna be at and he
wasn't doing fifty moves and it was no jumpers. It's
like straight ye rim like, yeah, he's one of my
favorite shout out to do, bro, legend do the.
Easiest to go.
I'm yeah, I am, but I ain't gonna lie to be.
I feel good out there, bro, Like now you be
cooking the guy, the guys that that that y'all love
the guys everybody love.
I feel good against me off, Bro.
My thing always came down to, like how play I
wish I would have played more like how I play
a pick.
Up in the NBA, But the way I had to
come in, I had to like go roll by roll
by role.
You know what I'm saying. I always prioritize winning over
like my own ship. Yeah what I'm saying so, and
I can't right what I'm six feet you know, unathletic.
I can't do that ship every night, but I could
make it dynamic to me though, Yeah, like you're not
like super athletic, but you create space and you get
to where you want to go.
And you're only six ft. You strong than the motherfucker.
Yeah he's strong, but.
My boy runs like howay Like in the summertime, Shi,
it is just different. But when it's time to like
match up against the top guards, is like that's what
I like to do.
That's why. And I like your guard them too.
We know you hurt now, but that's why we was
Like I was so high on your team before you
got hurt, because I believe in your competitive spirit. Like
last year.
You stright.
Yeah you did say that on God. But when y'all
got kidd like, that's what for you? That shit fucked
me up. That was more so like obviously I was
fucked up that I got hurt, but like just the opportunity. Yeah,
I'm saying the season. He havn't the season. We haven't.
They missing this ship out of you know, I just
know what i'd be.
Doing, you know what I mean. And then once you
get to the end of the season, it's like you
want to rise to the to the level too, so
you have all year. Yeah, I mean I'm pushing, but
six months is crazy, Like nobody really come back in
six months. But I mean that's a lot to ask,
you know what I'm saying. I'm not ruling it out.
Let's get back by playoffs, bro, I'm not that would
be insane. It would be insane. I'm not even keep
playing with people. I'm coming.
But like it would be crazy, but I'm not.
Ruling it out.
I'm saying that on the Morning show every day.
How many times you've probably been traded on the Morning show.
I been to trade Ruber. I know that's probably knowing hell,
especially around the.
Right and trade y'all specifically.
Just coming.
I never sent him the sack. I never traded.
I'm always l a. I don't want to talk about
the Rocks so much right here, but I never traded
you because I think got away for you to get healthy. Yeah,
but if you were going to try get rid of
some of the bigs though and bring in somebody to
feel the void at the time.
They got your red Shepherdeine take alumni baby.
Read we ain't gonna talk too much about that eighteen. Yeah.
I like read.
They've been called the cocaine curry.
Yeah, they got to stop.
Clay was just like, hey, respect this stuff. It should
never be Clay was nothing.
I wasn't startin like Clay was disgusted by this. She
was like, what I hate when they do ship like that. Man,
it's bad they did it this in going with Joker, Like,
it's just it's just.
I've seen that argument, y'all.
Had the other day all the same the same building,
just some building. Yeah, let's get the same the same building.
Because he said, no, I'm not doing that. Wasn't it
was a city though, Yeah, he said, I said, they're
in the same building. He said, they're not in the
same city.
Man, I ain't your old.
I think that we're doing both of them at this
service by comparing them.
There we go for it.
That's what I say. Two all stars, two killers. He
is so he is media trained. Yeah, I think that.
I think we both of them pirates. And I told her,
listen after is my dog, like I talked to him.
He talked to him like like we talked, you know
what I tell him to his face, Like when they
came with that Joker shop, I said, stop doing that
ship for real, like doing that because first of all,
you want your own name god. Second of all, y'all
really don't play nothing alike outside of the the the
flashy ship. You know what I'm saying. He coming from
the top of the key like and he on some ship.
But like, come on, bro, I just think joker it's crazy.
But jo one of the best, come on this ship.
Freaking bread comes saying, he said, something different, though, I'm
saying as far I said, they.
Are nowhere near similar. They not besides other bullshit passing probably,
I'm talking about the quality dominate the gap. I think
what you what you finished with was like I think
the ranking.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's y'all having a y'all having
a different conversation. I think if you ranking the top
bigs in the NBA, he belongs in that conversation.
That's a fact.
I just think the gap between one and two may
be bigger than the gap between two, three, four and five.
Like he is like Joker is like a like an
all time great, already four big, he can sit down,
sare I don't want play basketball no more.
Better than everybody with Grew White played him.
So I played him most times where he's had thirty
forty point triple doubles and the ball doesn't touch the
rim and this is this is three mini float lay
up free throw he like multiple times, Yeah the ball
don't touch the rim, bro, I give it.
I am he all time great shade young boy, the
young boy just on the rise. I'm just saying, like
he got to be a really good place been buses
as a couple of times. That's the fact.
So that's the beautiful thing about the game. Like you
still got lace up. You know what I'm saying. But
I would I would never compare them.
To But the whole argument start because I kept saying
quick calling.
Him baby joke. Yeship, he was saying that he got
I hate it's just the last But like you said,
if he was playing, look he was, he's going at
him too. Yeah nice, he's a dog. Yeah, squad right now,
it's crazy y'all. Y'all got some kills over there just
to win it. Man. Thompson is one of the best
athletes we've ever seen the basketball. He do something every
night is just like that shit crazy special special.
When he learned how to shoot, he going NBA.
Just he just now like adding shit like his reads,
like knowing where to pass, knowing where the help is
coming from. Like he just now adding that because that's
a whole nother aspect to his game that he ain't
really tapped into yet.
He got touched. He a dog and he worked hard.
He was one of my favorite favorite kids. Bro. Like,
let me ask you this, Like being out did it
make you like obviously you're gonna play for another ten years, right,
they ever make you like, damn, I could be a
coach too. Yeah, Like, hell no, I think it's showing
me that I don't want to coach out It's like
I'll be going home with headaches and shiit after game,
you know what I'm saying. You know, like it's just
like it's only so much you can do.
The facts.
I like to teach more than I like to coach.
And I always knew like I would give back to
the game somehow. It's like, oh man, you would be
a coach. It's like, bro, the NBA grind to do
that shit for whatever, ten fifteen, twenty years and then
like go back to that again. Like I got kids,
Like I just can't see it. But I would definitely
be around the game in some capacity, you know what
I'm saying, And I know I can do it. I'm
doing it now, you know That's why I was as
I'm doing it in a lesser role on disrespect our coaches,
but like I'm helping them with the in between between
the players, you know what I'm saying. So, so I
got a coach out there on the court anyway. Yeah,
PG become a coach and you're like, I could do
it now. I told I told Rich and them, like
what so maybe I'll retired for five six years. So
it's fifteen years of coaches making twenty twenty five million
a year. That might be out there the game yelling
hey the assistant. Yeah he ain't gonna thousand. Damn the
money going up. Yeah, you give me a hundred. Come coach,
because you're going you go on the same trick.
I'm back.
You want to be back at the bench man, Yeah,
the same thing.
Yeah, you want to do the same hotels and everything.
Yeah, the same. We're making the talk to staff right now.
We got Fred, we got tig Evan Turner, y'all player specialist.
I gotta get one right on the head coach. I
want to see Rondo coaches too. Rondo too serious though,
Yeah you can't. That's a hard transition, bro. He takes
me to play our team in high school next year
with them, like if we want to play all Yeah,
he's smartest. Yeah, Like it'd be hard sometimes for them
from them, guys. A coach to the game ain't ain't
all about that either. Sometimes it's way more simple than
than you know what I'm saying, so I think sometimes
them guys struggle. But he definitely should be on somebody's staff.
He specially got a special basketball man.
Definitely. Hell yeah, I like talking.
Who for you? Yeah? Fred? The rule you got you
can't talk about? Yeah, I respect what man. I'm here, bro,
he retired. I want to hear a conversation to retire.
You want to dance, you know what I'm saying when
I need to. But you want to parade? Like though,
I want to know because we joked about our parade
all the time. Yeah, real celebrations, million people. It's crazy.
I don't even know if like it's supposed to be
that many humans in one place at one time. We started.
First of all, we win in the Bay Game six,
go crazy, ain't ship going on in San Francisco, Jump
on the plane to Vegas. He left on the place.
We go to Vegas for day two days, and then
what happened was we that's when Drake was running around
with it. So like half the team went with Drake
to l A and then the other half went to Toronto.
So like me, Pascal norm some of the younger guys,
we did we go back to the city. So were
the first ones to the city. Yeah, the other guys
went to La so we came and got the love first,
so boom, we all saw we're doing our thing. A
couple of days, then we had the parade, and I
just remember like we had to drive like it was
like a ten minute drive from you know where we
started to where we finish. That shit took like five
six hours because it was just so many people outside
and then we started drinking and man ship, Yeah, it
was it was. That's that's like the most craziest thing
I've ever done. The parade, that whole summer. But that
parade was we had a whole summer, had a whole summer.
Bro Yeah, damn oh summer run around old Track. I
mean you take the trophy, like, yeah, you're going to run.
You go back to Vegas for some of the running
bad come back to the city. Yeah you hear you there,
you everywhere. What's up, Champ? Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Like my ship was even better because like I went
crazy in the fourth quarter. Yeah, the game six, it
was like that ship was on people's mind. Yes, so
now I'm lit and then Kawhi don't go no, I
mean he go places, but like he yeah, was more
I'm outside, you're the base.
Yeah, I don't get none of that.
What was like you you was on the team, your clip,
your clips still going the group project.
They played before the playoffs start.
Yo, they don't they do what you walking through the hall.
It's like you act like I play.
You're playing like he did playing in the final.
He did him playing in the final like three minutes.
Look it up.
He played. I think I missed like six been on
that with him on Twitter. You said they put all
his shids in the finals.
It's this game. You gotta respect. You got a minison
eary game.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Jeff becuse,
I'm gonna help you out here twenty one. When you
came in the league two thousand and nine, so you played, Yeah,
come on, bro, we had a hell of a crew.
We always praises Big was doing this because you retired.
Yeah. Yeah, he was like, come on, bro, you let
my moniscous was gone.
We gonna keep it real because they ain't sunk with
him no more. He wasn't supposed to be there. That
nigga didn't have no knees. Bros will go Yeah, he
got signed off the love. But what I'm saying that's no,
I was good. I tore you could hoop. I'm saying,
like I tour with Milwaukee. Remember I was in Boston.
I had came up game. I got here playing one
on one with Jordan nor Wow.
Legend. I said, I can't be in my knigga. Damn crazy, Bro.
I said, I play Broo joking and ship man. I
don't stop doing that. I love my nigga.
But because he was like, Bro, you're done right.
Playing.
I shouln't let niggas really play with this nigga like that. Everybody,
I don't let niggas if you don't, I don't even
want to dance to get to him. You know what
I'm saying.
Because I don't play about my niggas. But I'm just
saying that year, Bro, it's y'all had a different finals experience.
I mean one thousand percent. Yeah, that's that's just like
just going from Toronto to Milwaukee. You can just start the.
Johnson different wish people that wont that mother Houston laying
on Miami.
That's why I was in Houston. All know that's what
we're gonna be partying, which we're there.
Like you think I want to, don't worry about me.
You can feel, you can feel like the buzz and
the energy in the city, like you know the team
the city know a good team.
You know, hell so is gonna be filtered? Mo Low
you know say, we're not gonna tell you Johnson, come on.
There, run it back. Yeah, exactly, We're gonna be right there.
I hope y'all wouldn't want to after their boy seem
to do it. Thought, yeah, bro, gotta you gotta get healthy.
Y'all already get healthy. Ll crazy what you look about
this rookie class though, we got young, a lot of
young guys getting to You got VJ, you got Cooper
flag kind Kannupple. They represent right now, a lot of
first options. I know the league is a little bit
different now the rookies get to do whatever they want to.
But how has it been obviously you've been observing the
games and stuff like that. Man, I like it. I
think I think this is one of the better classes
that we done had, you know, like, just from guys
that's really you could see what they're gonna be right away. Yeah,
because then then a couple of these drafts we had,
you know, top picks come in and be role players
or come off the bench and don't play, and you know,
ship like that. That is weird because that's not what
we grew up on back Like usually when you get drafted,
you know, they try to make you like a franchise guy.
So to see to see the young guys this year,
I mean, it's a lot of good players in this draft.
And then yeah, obviously everybody's looking forward.
To the next year. But I'm looking at this year
like ship.
I mean, they got they got some at least six, seven,
eight of them, you know what I mean A whip really, God,
that's contributing on winning teams. You got Queen, you got
the care from Memphis. Cent a coward beginning, he's supposed
to be a dukee. He out here do so right
now doing this thing. Little Brot Dylan dealing out here,
killing the limited minutes right now. My fears wabble, everybody.
My boy, rookie class is decent. You got dealing, Yeah, yeah,
Harper this ship.
And then the kid from Toronto is good too, Yeah yeah,
ce hm b hold it down. Some bully game out there.
I like his class. I'm excited, more excited about next
year draft flash. Yeah, just because the freshman man in
college basketball is so many good freshmen. There's a lot.
I've just seen the kid from Houston. I went to
the Houston game Kingston Flemings Rock. He's a pro. They
got the care from Arkansas. That's really good. Cup obviously
the top two boozer, which you think about. I ain't
watching him play yet, dog. He good.
I just think he likes Tyler hans Bro.
Everybody getting mad at me, disrespectful like, no, you gotta
think to Hansborough when he was at Carolina.
Not talent hands. That's my red life, Bro. Disrespectful bro.
Not. You don't know how happy I to see you laugh, Bro,
just to see you smile would have made my day.
It was strange, crazy Bro.
I don't like te No.
The moment is bro, no junk yard dog and I
can put on and pull him for three. You could
do that. He added to his game, called me too.
It's twins though, right, we happened to the other one.
But he there too, hered he's having he's not having good.
Yeah, he gonna be there.
Remember from high school. See, I don't watch you sports
that much. No more used to. I really don't even
like college basketball for real, but I panten twin can hoop.
It's just he's.
Stars like we got a twin two. Yeah, it's star study.
Man.
He got a younger brother, brodu that man. Yeah, remember
he be classed up?
Is he just went up?
Yeah, he would see what I mean.
Crazy, that's family, he said, you got I'm in high
grand I'm not tering to be crazy. I'm just saying
they had to real that, bro. Our journeys is different.
He didn't go with him. Uh no, he's that main
right now. Yeah he went to he went to. Yeah
he's a main university though. Yeah, he's a freshman. I
believe a flag. Yeah, shout out to a flag man.
Here, Yeah, shout out to the family. Hold it down
all right now, look checking me out.
This ain't it's disrespectful, bro, Like, come on, Broycho, team
player the year you want chairmanship? Bred and and nobody
at any given time thought the tall hands was gonna
be the number one pick in the NBA draft? How
tall was taller hands? Bro? Sixth line? What saying?
But and one now waste of movies, Bros.
What he do Okay, okay, okay, I see the screen.
He can do this.
He got that. That's the only thing he and he
can do like this and pull up.
You have a Do you have an NBA? Yeah? Right now? Yes?
Who he played like this in the league? Right?
They say, probably Al Horford psycho's crazy.
Boom singing. Man.
I ain't fucking with child. No, it's not just respecfly Bro,
that's not what.
Man. I know I should have gotta go ahead and tripping. Listen,
the NBA cop is it might not be j Billis
because he's be wilding man j Bill that his friends Brody,
there we go, p fop Julius Randall.
Check out some of the Horford say harps in the league.
I got respect six years chance, nigga, Colin Hans bro
never make appearance of men of them people? Yeah yeah,
when a lottery pick y'all gotta stop, Bro, he should.
It was.
The best one of the best college players ever.
Bro.
I'm with you, play though I haven't. I can't speak
with Tyler Hans world.
I'm gonna right now for the lost one game and
they've been putting to everybody. He number one square next year.
I like that. You guys think, Yeah, what I'm saying
are actually good. It's good Tyler hand I hope that
was I hope it was all coming out. He was,
he was top.
So it just sounds crazy, like you know how you
go like, uh, the kid, what's the.
Kid from Kansas Darren? He liked the next Kobe, and
then you go Demonsa like he liked the next k
d And then you go my man, like, oh yeah,
the next tender he had, He had a good career,
ain't played for the one of the.
Best players, one of the.
Best salon players on the horn bro and now be
here when as that even though we are here that
game versus him and the Boss, they said that was
a deciding factor. Even though you know what I'm saying,
I don't base my thoughts on that. Darn Peterson is
crazy for sure, but.
Yeah, you can't teach hype. Yeah, I want to say
it with some space. I want to see it with
some space.
I feel like the last one was like like Wiggins
was like that for me, Like when I watched The
Man Kansas, I was like, but you gotta think college
everybody right here. You know what I'm saying, I want
to see the bouncer with some more space around him.
But that boy, that boy for Kansas special he bro, Yeah,
he's sharp, like here short for that age to be
that sharp skill set, he's sharp. It depends on who
get to pick too. Oh yeah, sometimes no matter what
you need, you know what number one we have to
get a j I think they should get. But if
the King's the one pick talking about Kings get the
number one Darren Paterson because they don't. But you go
shoot the ball whatever you want to. Yeah, your Hawks.
I prayed that they don't get No. One pick. Oh man,
we got the bad draft. No disrespect to him, but
young xactly exactly.
Exact herd your no got ship.
Injuries on this nigga.
Then you gotta go practice in the G League and
then they bring you back up to play.
Bro. I just hate that he picks you who you
would have took Alex tell him to take him there. Yeah,
but that whole draft was it was due they had
they had read as the number one player in that draft.
But yeah, yeah, we.
Couldn't could have got stepped on castle, y'all the draft
to read a number one. They would have paid it, y'all,
what especially having Trey.
They would have I.
Would have took Castle, or I would have took Alex.
I mean we needed a big yeah, y'all needed repect.
The big oh y'all nede a big way. Y'all picked
what was there to pick. We ain't know much about him.
That's what I didn't like. But anyway, I ain't trying
this my hawks.
No shouts to the Hawks.
Man.
Well, yeah, in town yesterday it happen. Yeah, I talked
to that yesterday. Man, send us some flocks, bro.
I guess can I get some Houston year Bro? What
you need least some shorts work for I worked ship
under the shorts. You want some compressions because that niggaang
gonna life. Frid got cold. Nigga had on these wind breakers.
I said, damn if I had on some tights and
would be flying everywhere.
Come man, on that note, you can't find it so
excite to be here telling people.
Ain't grab shout club on twenty do com man, we
want some tight all froight Fred. We appreciate you, bro
telling people that can find a pot as well. Man,
My boy getting to it off the court.
Man, sure anywhere, man, look it up.
I don't know. We just we just having fun. Now.
Well I'm hurt so type of Instagram but we can
talk to all that. Yeah, pull up whatever, man, I
appreciate you off for having though. I appreciate you man
for sure. Man, like we said shout to boost. Muggle
family tapped in shouts to stock X. You know the
vibes be here the lace. We need a dub Man
for sure. You gotta get this money. I need a
twenty thousand dollars play Bro, I.
Don't worry to talk about that.
Rocket. Play real quick rock.
Shout the song Rocket. We appreciated off
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