Gabi’s Our Comeback Queen

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Speaker 1: What's of Happy Hour listeners. I'm Beccacoufern and I'm Michelle. Yeah, and we are excited to be back with you again this week. Getting into the third episode of The Bachelor, I feel like we're already like flying through this season. But I'm very excited to bring on our guest Gabby today. Yeah. So we're so excited we're going to be chatting with Gabby here all about her journey. It was a slow start, but now she's coming in hot talking about the Bachelor Bowl and her connection with Szach. But first before we bring her on, Becca, I feel like I haven't seen you in a minute. How are you doing, phill us in I know, I feel like you have been traveling all I'm like, I don't even know where Michelle is these days because you are bounds in between states. But I'm good. I have been traveling a little bit to this past week, and I still have more upcoming travels for some really fun stuff that we will soon be announcing. So stay tuned next week. We'll probably be able to talk about it at little bit more on the podcast. But yeah, some really fun things in the works. And yeah, I was traveling this past weekend for my wine line at some events, which was so so fun. So yeah, life's going good. I feel like we're starting to kind of pick up this new year and bounce around and just get going. How are you okay? Wait? I love that. I'm so excited to now hear what you're going to be bringing up. I'll definitely be checking back in next week with that one. But for me, things have been good. I feel like every time I hop, I'm about a happy hour. I'm in a different state right now, coming from Arizona, so I'm gonna be here for some super Bowl activities. And you said that you're going to be in the area tomorrow, right I'm also coming to Arizona. I feel like just going back to you being in a new state all the time. It's like, where in the world is Carmen San Diego? That is you. I'm like, where in the country is Michelle Young these days? But yeah, we'll both be in Arizona for different fun things. It's I didn't even realize, so, like, you know me, I don't watch sports, so I just out yesterday that the super Bowl is in Arizona. Also, the waste Management Tournament is happening the same time, So it is going to be crazy town. And I mean you're there early, like is it already starting to get like super busy there? Okay, So I'm right now, I'm located like in old town Scottsdale. So the super Bowl tailgate, everything that's taking place is legitimately in my backyard, like ten steps to the right, and so it's pretty cool. And so last night one of my girlfriends and I were just walking around and it's like a ghost town, but with everything starting to be like set up, and so I'm sure in the next day or two everything's going to start to get a little bit more lively. But it's like this calm before the storm. But it is going to be fun. Like you said, waste management's going on, so there's a lot of events going on with that. It's like Phoenix's own or Arizona's own super Bowl within a super Bowl, and so it's gonna be a lot so much. Well, it's so fun. Let's get into the episode really quick before Gabby hops on, what were your overall thoughts on this week three? And like, do you have any predictions? I know I asked you this last week of like any standouts or people that you think are going to make it through till the end. I can't even remember what I responded with or who I responded with last week, because I do feel like it changes so quickly, like there is That's just how Bachelor World works. When you're in it, and when you're watching it, at one minute you can absolutely like, yeah, this is the person, and then it can completely get flipped around. But I'll say that Charity. I feel like Charity is just so genuine. I feel like she's gonna make it so far, She's like my number one right now. She's who I want to make it to the end. But if she doesn't end up with Zach or if that's not the right, if it's I'm calling it now. Yeah, And I'm not calling it in the sense of like I'm predicting it. No, she needs to be the Bachelorette, like I'm nominating her. Yes, I stand by that. I really enjoy her. And and this week when I was so happy she got that group date rose, but then when Christina kind of stole that moment, I was like, nobody makes my baby cry. I was I had like this like guard dog, like mama bear mentality for her where I was like, that is not okay, and so um yeah, I agree though she's really standing out to me. I'm trying to think of who else right now. I mean, like just right off of dates, I think he's very into Katie. I think that they are both like fair. They have like a very similar mentality and like way of doing life. It seems like like approaching conversations, like they're very both like even and keeled, like very chill, kind of calm, like very similar demeanors, right in a genuine way. Yeah, Katie. I think just like Katie seems like chill and fun and like honestly, like just as a viewer, I feel like if Katy and Zach were to meet out at a bar away from the television show, they would actually hit it off and like be interested in one another and want to pursue one another. It just seems like that kind of fit. Okay, I have to jump back and ask you this question. At the beginning of the episode, there was this quick overnight Yeah, what were what was it? What were your thoughts when you're watching that? Because when I was watching this, I was like, if I was on the day, it'd be like that's amazing, But then back home. What a way to just totally get a massive mind fuck already so early in the process. I would have been pissed. I I would have died for that date at the museum. I would have loved it. Do you did you throw back to old school books and movies? Did you ever watch or read the night? It was like, no, like the mixtup files of Basily Frankweiler. I have no idea what that is. I've never heard of that. Wait, wasn't the mixtup file something basilely Frank Weiler? Okay, if please DM me, if you know what I'm talking about. It was a book. They made it into a movie. It's basically about this brother and sister who run away from home. They go and live in this museum for a while. They like sleep in Marie Antoinette's bed, and they like have to bathe in the fountains that are there. Only it was like one of my favorites. My sister and I would go to the library and rent it all the time. But that is what I'm picturing. When they had this date, I was like, this is my childhood dream. I would have loved this date and honestly, like the sleepover part. Here's what I'm thinking, And maybe it's just because I know, like the ins and outs, they probably got thirty seven minutes of sleep, like they probably filmed for along. Production was probably like okay, take a little nap and we got to get back to the house at like eight am. Like they probably think they actually got any but right, because but like in fantasy fantasy suits, like you really don't sleep that much. What I'm curious about, though, is like do you think they actually got any off camera time together like you do in fantasy suits. I'm sure they got a little bit. I'm sure they did, just because, like, let's be honest, like their crew needs to sleep and take breaks too, So I really don't think like I don't and I don't think it was like long, and I'm sure there's people like kind of around still outside of the tent, but I don't think. I don't think they were like somebody was in their tent with them the entire time. But yeah, okay, but I also want to ask you about one more thing too, So you mentioned problematic behavior, So we need to just bring up this really quick before Gabby hops on. But the whole Christina situation between not only Brianna but some of the other girls. We see like little comments throughout the episode, like little digs, little I think, just moments that she gets under people's skin. What were your thoughts on that and were you surprised that Zach actually ended up sending her home when he did, and like didn't just keep her around another week to see what would happen. Yeah, I honestly, you and I have kind of spoken about how we thought, yeah, or we thought Christina was just, you know, like gonna be this. She's funny, She's she's the one talking about all these things with the off camera like shots or not off camera, but she's she's the one that was in the bloopers or just like the little after conversations once the credits rolled, right, like that's where we really solid of personality. But I will say that after this last episode, it very much comes off as like read the room, like let's be considerate about other people's feelings, and so it's already uncomfortable. You have to talk about different details of the date, like that's how the show works. It's really awkward as it is, and a lot of times I can see that there's almost oversharing where it's you can answer a question, but you also don't have to continuously bring your like relationship to the forefront and wave it around in everybody's face. And that's what at this point I felt like was being done. And so for me, I'm like, yeah, I don't like that. It's it's it gets old, it's uncomfortable. And even in that whole situation where Charity got this group date Rose and then the whole moment was completely just wiped out, you know, where she expected everybody's support when she came home from meeting Zack's family on the one on one and she the girl supported her and listened to her and for her too. Then take someone out after they get a group date Rose, It's like, you can't ask people to support you, and then you come and pull this moment away from somebody else. I didn't like it. I didn't That's not how I roll. So I was happy to see that zaccent Or. But I also will say that Zach really is eliminating anybody who's problematic or if he really doesn't see a future, he seems to have a strong gut reading. Yeah, and to let him go pretty early on which is his decisive I will say like I actually appreciated that because I was like, we don't need to keep her around, especially if, like you know, she's it's not just a one time instance. It's not just what one person, it's with multiple I totally respect that decision, and also like the I think the thing that really rubbed me the wrong way was the whole charity situation where she's like, that's weird. I don't understand it. I wanted to go through the screen like it's not for you to understand, Like this is Zach's journey. He's the one here trying to find somebody, and if she's not seeing these other conversations with other women, so you don't have to understand it, but you don't have to take away and shine such a negative light to somebody else. Like let that girl have this moment, like it's very fleeting in this Boucher world because so many other group dates come out and it's just there's so much transition that I was like, let her just appreciate it and just close your mouth at some points, like things are funny and it's okay to be loud and boisterous but there are also times we're just like you said, read the room, take a step back. But you know, actually, that's why I'm excited to bring Gabby on, because she lived with everyone, she witnessed all of this, so I do want to just pick her brain and see kind of like not that there was size, but just kind of see like her take on things and if it did seem as heightened as it was like during that pool party. So I think with that we should just bring Gabby on right now. Absolutely well, welcome Gabby to Happy Hour. Obviously this is your first time hopping on here. Have you done any other podcast before? I've never done a podcast, so thank you for having me. I apologize if I have any nervous shitters, but I'm super excited helping her and it totally girl chat. But for those who are listening, can't see this right now, Gabby is in the middle of her work day and she's in her office. Correct. I love this though. I love a focused queen. That's amazing. Yep, the grind doesn't stop. So here we are. She came in hot professional with the blazer. We love a good blazer look. So just to start, Gabby, catch us up on how you're doing. How has it been watching yourself back on TV. I'm sure it's kind of weird and unsettling at times. Yeah, it's, Um, it's been kind of funny, um because I remember how I felt like a doll can relate to this, like how you feel in the moment versus watching it on TV all back you like, it's totally different. Um, but it's kind of funny. I've been watching with my close friends and they just kind of chuckle at me and they're like, now you're being so yourself, and I'm like, well, that's that's all you can be. So I mean, it's been really positive at least for me and my experience so far. So it's been. It's been weird but exciting. I think that's one of the best things though, is a lot of people get negative reactions, like internal negative reactions watching it back, because the camera can kind of be or the show can kind of be a mirror sometimes and if you lose your way while you're there and you're not yourself, then you when you're watching it back, you're like almost not necessarily cringing, right, but you're like uncomfortable. Whereas I love that hearing that your friends and just like the people around you and yourself are like, okay, I'm totally I was totally one hundred percent myself. Yeah, I didn't want to have any regrets, and you know it, it felt weird at first, and it took me a long time to like not a long time, a long time in Bachelor World to get used to the cameras being around. And I think that you can really see that, and I know, like it's kind of like people are joking on the internet, like Gabby how to come back in the last episode. But it took an adjustment for me to like be okay with the cameras there, and like I was still being myself, but it was a lot of stimulation and it was a lot to handle and to process and to like regulate all my emotions. It was a learning curve in a really weird way. But I feel like every side that people saw, people are like callably, like Gabby's all over the place. Yes I am, but it was all me so but it's real. Yeah, And and like I'm I can understand the cameras and just like the crew being around because it's a lot of people and like it's not until you step out of the limbo of that night one where you're like, holy shit, like I did not know what I was signing up for. But not only that, Like also living with twenty thirty girls is a lot too, so many different personalities. It's hard at times, like especially right away to even speak and like I feel like you have a moment when they're so much going on. So I'm sure that had a plane too, where there's just like so many people, so many personalities, and of course like trying to fight for the same guy. So I want to know though, like getting on to Zach's season, were you a fan of the show before? How did you get cast? Like what was that process for you? Yeah, So before I went on the show, I actually had gone through a pretty bad breakup. I dated this guy for a few years and it was just it wasn't the most healthy relationship, and so the breakup was really hard on me. I felt like I had invested a lot of my time and effort and energy into it, and coming out of it, I was heartbroken. And my friends saw me like that and they were like, yeah, you have so much to give. So they all nominated me to go on the show. They're like, you'll be perfect for this. You have to like just at least try, and I was like, okay, I'm not sure. But I spent a lot of time investing in therapy and investing in myself and healing, and obviously a healing journey, it's not you know all of a sudden you're healed. But I knew what I wanted and I was able to really discover that through therapy of like what did worthwhile love look like to me? And obviously trying to find it myself didn't really work out, and so I went on the show. I didn't I'd watched a few seasons, but I didn't. I'm not like a diehard Bachelor fan, but my sister loved a Bachelor. She always would watch with my grandma, which is really funny. So she was very supportive of me going on the show. And she was like, yeah, but you just you gotta do it. And so I was definitely nervous because I had been so heartbroken, but you know, like you can't just stop trying in life. So I put myself out there. I couldn't believe it when I got the call, like, hey, we want you to be on the show. I was like, wait what, Um, I wasn't expecting that, but I'm so so grateful that I that I went through with it. Well, we're incredibly happy that you also said yes, because then we can get to watch you on our screens every week. So you get here, you get to the Vaschelor Mansion, it's night one, taking it from the top. You exit the limo, and you hand Zach maple syrup. Yes, Um, I thought us going differently in my head. Um first, okay, wait take us from what what? How did you want it to go or how did you see it in your head? First? Well, I consider myself kind of like Buddy the Elf. If you guys have seen that movie, I would assume um, and you know, syrup is one of the four main food groups. Um. And as a Vermonter, like, my favorite thing to do is like take my friends who visit me to like maple syrup farm and have them tryal to syrup ups. And like, as a child growing up, going to the maple syrup farm and tasting the syrups was like my favorite thing to do. And um, I just felt like it was like a piece of home with me. And it's so sweet and delicious. I was not expecting him to not like it, but I thought he was gonna throw up. Honestly, I was, Um, I think you can hear me say like, I didn't like that face. Um, he did not like it? So well does he not like pancakes or waffles? Like? Does he eat them plain? Because I'm thinking like, like syrups not that like not polarizing of a thing to drink, Like if we're talking about like taking shots of something, you'd think that. I'm like, I didn't give you alcohol, Like I feel like this is like the win here. Um, but no, the preference I guess for people who aren't from you know, Canada or Vermont, it's fake maple syrups. So yeah, that was really just funny. So okay, wow, well so do you feel like you should have brought something for him to put the syrup on your lips? Yeah? No, I should just put it all over me. And they're like here, here you go, look it off here. Okay, so this man tries to syrup, he doesn't like it. You're not really sure how it goes. You get into the whole night one and you didn't get to talk to him. Were you like holy shit, I'm going home because of maple syrup or what like. Honestly, what's syrup maybe was what might save me because I was like, well, he didn't like it, but he probably remembers it, so at least we have that. So I didn't get to talk to him, but I wasn't the only one who didn't get to talk to him. And you know, we had a fluid conversation when I first got out of the limo, and I was like, you know what, that was really easy. We spent like two minutes standing there talking to one another, and I was like, you know, some of these girls are only getting two minutes, So maybe it's not the end of the world. Maybe it's enough to keep you around. Um, but it was definitely scary. But I think you get to some point in the night and you're like, it's so you know, it's so late and I'm so tired. And I remember I wore my shoes all night long and they were aggressively tall, like probably like six or so inches. Terrible idea, um, not smart on my part, but I wore them all night just in case I would get a chance to talk to him. It didn't happen. Um, yeah, it was. It was stressful, but I just kind of remained hopeful, like, well maybe he'll remember me from the maple syrup who needs an energy drink? Okay, So how did you feel then standing at that rose ceremony, obviously not being able to chat with him? Besides that very first interaction, he does call your name, you do get a rose? What was that feeling? Like? Wow? Um, as you guys probably saw, my reaction was like, oh, like I wasn't expecting that. And then I walked over and um, yeah, I actually tried to grab the rose from him and that's yeah. And then I was like obviously, of course, Um, so I was surprised. I was surprised, like really eager and really excited. Um, but it was I knew I was with Like, as the names were getting called, there was other girls who hadn't talked to him yet, so I was hopeful. I was like, okay, like trying to do the math in my head. I was like, Okay, we have this many roses, this many girls haven't spoken to him. Okay, now two girls have been called we haven't spoken to him? Does that leave how many girls? I was like doing math in my head that didn't make any sense at all, but I was. I was pleasantly surprised when he called my name. Yeah, it was a key moment. I liked your reaction. It so just genuine. Let's quickly talk about last week because you become one of the standouts for sure. You have this one on one time was Zach. It was so sweet and you seemed like you're nervous and because you're worried that I was coming off as like the Gabby show. But can you tell us a little bit more of like that first one on one convo with Zach? Yeah? Um, it was a lot um I think, you know, being the second group date, you have that anticipation where you're kind of waiting around. You're hearing like, okay, I've heard about the one on one, I've heard about the group date. We have two rosens given out, and now it's finally our time to go on our date with him. But it felt like I was so behind everyone else at that moment because he had already had all these other conversations, right, that's like thirteen fourteen him and he's had one on one conversations with and so I was like, I don't know if I can catch up like they had the first night. Now they've had these states, and so I got a little bit in my head to be honest with you, and I think the environment, like I said earlier, it's very overstimulating. And I have ADHD, which I'm totally comfortable talking about, and you know, I'm very aware of it. But there's a lot of emotional regulation that you have to like work on, and that's something I've been working on for years. But when you're in an environment that's so overstimulating, it can be really difficult to find that regulation of your emotions. And so for me, you know, finally getting the opportunity to sit down and talk to him, it's late. I'm tired. You know, there's a lot of comparison you're doing. There's a lot of sensitivities you're feeling, and then there's on top of that, there's the distractions of the environment just in it's and so, you know, I had all these things I wanted to probably talk to them about, and I came up with nicknames. Don't know where that came from. I do love nicknames, and I give everyone nicknames, but that's probably like more it gives some context to the roller coaster that people saw of like my emotions and then the emotions that came after that conversation of the like sensitivity because emotions hit you really hard and really fast when you're ADHD and so a lot of people maybe don't understand that or know that, but I'm comfortable talking about that, but I think it does help people understand, like, Okay, how did you do a one eighty when you talk to him before the rose ceremony? Because I figured out, Okay, what do you need to do to regulate your emotions in this kind of environment? And I'm so grateful that I have had the tools and the therapy and the psychiatrists to teach me those tools to be able to do that. But it was a lot in the beginning. So there's a very long winded and s are for you all, but um no, that's that's how it's feeling. Yeah, it made it made a lot of sense. I actually really appreciate you to explaining that and just being vulnerable to share that side of things, because I think that's a perspective that a lot of people who aren't dealing with you know anything, or dealing with similar similar things might not think about and you add the learning curve of just like you said, the cameras, the lack of sleep, um, just all the commotion that's going on. It would that adds a whole different layer. Yeah, but you did land on Zachie pooh, and I feel like it's stuck. Correct. I like, yah, Zach's cute. Yeah, he didn't seem like he really liked it, And I was like, come on, man, like this gives you some edge, like it's cute, it's sweet, it's endearing. Um okay, So I want to then go into you just you know, like obviously it was kind of a roller coaster that first conversation, and I'm sure also too, like hearing how other conversations with the woman went, Like hearing if he kissed them or not plays a huge role into that, and kind of like the comparison of like, Okay, I feel behind already, maybe I'm getting more behind. But you did turn it around because the next time at that cocktail party, you I loved this. The peanut butter cups was so cute, a little lady in the tramp style move. How did you feel when you finally had like the real conversation with him, and then you got that kiss. What was that Like? It was so reassuring and like I was like finally, like I can take a deep breath, Like finally, I feel like that was a normal conversation that wasn't forced, It wasn't like awkward, it wasn't intimidating. It just felt like finally and I could like take that deep breath, you know. I think leading up to that, I kind of got to a point where I was like, you know, you just need to like relax, take a deep breath, and like try to just focus on this one thing. And that's what I did, and it just felt very finally felt like natural, um yea and not as distracted. Give us the deets I need to know. Is Zach a good kisser? Uh? Decent kisser? Met? Like I really want to know, ge, Yes, honest, you won't get in trouble if you tell us the truth. Well, our kiss was a little bit peanut buttery, um, which was I mean, it's an acquired taste that I love. I think so too. I was like, yeah, a little peanut butter, a little chocolate, I love it. Um. No, I thought we had a good kiss, like rating it on the scale of first kisses. Um, it was long anticipated. I was I don't think I've ever been that nervous for our first kiss in my whole life. Um, but I thought it was pretty good. What I will say about Zach is I think his kissing style is very accommodating to the other person. That's a compliment. He catches a vibe because I was obviously you guys saw us talking about you know, do you use tongue? Do you not use tongue like I think he's good at like reading the room or reading theos and what's going on. Yes, I think he knows how to catch a vibe. That's a that's we have. We like an accommodating man. I like that. Okay, he adapts. Okay. So this week you played in like a long standing bachelor tradition, the Bachelor Bowl. And when you pulled up to the field, what were your first thoughts with what was happening, what was going to be expected on the day. Um, well, I was very nervous. I knew it was all I knew the second we got that day. Card I was like, there's too many girls on here for it to not be the Bachelor Bowl. Was It was it like, are we you excited about that? Or you're like, crap, are you athletic? Like do you consider yourself athletic? Um? Does that face say it at all? Um? Okay? So I would say I work out and I am athletic, but I am not aggressive. So for me, the idea of like being aggressive and like tackling someone is not like let's say we're doing like a like a a race or like an obstacle course. Hell yeah, I'm in there, like so a'mwhere like I will dominate. But the idea of tackling people and then being tackled, that was a lot and I was not ready for it. Well, and there was there was extra stakes because he told you whatever team wins gets to go to the cocktail party, whoever loses has to go home sianara. So like did that change your mindset going in? And I'm sure did in some capacity, but like when you heard that, what was going through your head? Oh? Yeah? I was like, oh perfect, like another missed opportunity to like progress my relationship with Zach, Like no way, there's absolutely no way. Well there was a way. Um uh yeah, So I was stressed. I was angry. I was like are you kidding? Like now another after party that I might not attend so that we can get even more behind. Yeah, so it was it was like a lot. Okay, So were you confident with like your team, like who is on remind us who was on your team? Well? Um, we had me Dhabia, Jen, Um Greer, Anastasia and who am I missing? Oh um Brianna. I think that was it? Okay, quite sure? Who did you think was going to be like the if you were to choose like a captain of your the yellow team, who would have been? Like? Who was? Like? Jen was our MVP all the way. She is very athletic, she knows football, so she was like and I think, see, we didn't have any workout girlies on our season, I guess besides Christina did CrossFit and then Jen was very athletic. And then I somehow got looped in as like one of those workout girlies. I was like, I work out, but like, I'm not I'm not a football girl. And so I think Jen really thought that I was gonna help her a lot with knowing football. But she was doing as all these plays and I was like that sounds awesome. I'm not sure what you're saying. You're speaking a different language, and you can see, like you'll see it's very obvious. I do not know football because in the beginning of the game, I remember I didn't know that you were supposed to like touch the ball. I thought you were not supposed touch the ball. Wait, what do you mean, like not touch them up with that somewhere? So I ran away from the ball. I literally would be you. I feel like during this group, Dad, I would be the same way. I'd be like, I'm just gonna go stand over here. I'm gonna fake an injury so i can hang out with Zachie pooh m. And just you would be the one to fake. You'd be the one to fake in and no, I'd actually probably stay in the game and I would it would take me a little bit to get like acclimated into it, but I'd probably then be like, I'm gonna fucking hit up everyone, give my aggression out. But um yeah, I just want to clarify for everyone because I was like, who is Jen, Like, I don't remember a Jen. Jenevie is who you're talking about? Who's on your team? And shed out like watching the episode, she did very very well, so just for the listeners, who's like if you're like me, and I'm like, I don't know who Jen is, It's jene Be. Um okay, Gabby, I also relate to you in this scenario about the peeing the pants, okay. And I'm not sure if you were embarrassed about that or not, But when I was watching knew, I'm like, we have all been there if you have not peach your pants a little bit at some point, whether it's playing a game, whether it's like when you're dancing, like your line, if you haven't peed your pants a little bit. So honestly, I don't think you should embarrass and embarrassed at all about it. And did you think that that part was gonna be shown? Like, you know, we're always miked up, but there's like some things that you don't think like we'll ever error. Did you think that they would show that? Um? I was. I was quite confident that that would be shown, muse because I went into the day and I was like, yeah, like I'm gonna put my body on the line and I'm gonna crush this, like I'm gonna get aggressive if I have to, Like I'm just gonna come out of my shell and be you know, a football player for the day. Well, you know, there was other plans for me that that blunt force that pulled me down. It was so hard, and I was also nervous, Like do you think, like, Okay, I'm staying hydrated because we're in the California sun. Then I've got these nerves and jitters because the boy I like is watching me try to catch up football run across the field like there's a lot going on. The nerves were giving me the nervous piece in itself and then you throw me to the ground. Yeah it was bad, but have no fear. I've consulted my doctor. We are good. Everything is good. We're working on it. M Yeah, it's going to happen now or when you have kids, And honestly you might your team might not have one, but you definitely won the relatable card. Cheers to you for that. Thank you. I'm actually kind of glad that they showed it because I feel like every episode we get like clips of like realness, and you know, I feel like there's things that people don't always want to talk about it, and so I'm so good that it was the highlight reel highlight reel. Yeah, no, I thought it was. I think it's funny. I mean I couldn't help it. I mean it was honestly like a little bit alarming to me. And actually I was like, oh my god, I'm fine, I just a little bit. That was hard. Yeah, so I got tackled twice, like really hard, and that was one of them. And that did occur. So, I mean, you guys really did give it your best effort though, but unfortunately the Yellow team fell short that day. How disappointing was it that you would not be able to go to this after party? It was very disappointing, not only like emotionally, but like physically. I was drained and hurting, like I hyper extended my knee and I was like, I was like, oh this hurts, and anyone this sounds silly, but anyone who has dipped nails will understand this. I had three of them ripped off, and my fingers were like throbbing from that. I just also peeped my pants, so like, there were so many emotions I was feeling, and then you don't get to talk to the guy who you've just put it all out there for. But I think he saw our effort, so I at least left knowing like, Okay, you put it all out there, you tried your best, like there's only so much you can do, but it was super disappointing. Yeah, oh yeah, the end, the end to an already rough day date. It's hopefully you guys just were able to get home, shower, drink a lot of wine so you couldn't feel the pain as much. But okay, so that night, you know, half of you went home, half still went to the date. And it was in the middle of that cocktail party. Were not cocktail party, but like that evening portion that you guys saw Bailey's suitcase being wheeled out of the mansion, did you expect that, Like, did you think that they had a stronger connection? And were you very surprised in that moment? I was very surprised by Bailey leaving, I mean when we were so actually what happened, Like the way I found out is I got up really early that next morning and and somebody else was up super early before the other girls, And it was almost like word of mouth, like somebody told me. So I didn't know all of the details, but I heard about and I was just like initially so shocked, and I think that's just because she I mean, she's so cool and so beautiful, and like, it seemed like they had a great connection. And from everything you hear, and that's every girl right talking about their relationship with someone else or with Zach, you know they're explaining in you're hearing the highlights of it, right, You're not necessarily hearing all of the like negatives or you know, the parts where it's like not going super awesome. So I probably didn't know all the details or the nuances of how their conversations were going. But from an outsider's perspective, I was absolutely shocked to see her go and really sad because she was, you know, so fun. It's sad to see any girl go, and so you lose a friend, and then you're also like what happened? So it's so many emotions. Who were you really close with in the house, like either night one throughout, and like even though who would you say you're like your best friends from the show are I think we were so lucky with our group of girls. The girls are all so cool, so nice, and I'm friends with everyone pretty much. I would consider myself friends with everyone. I think initially I really clicked with Jess and Katie and Ariel. Those are two of two or three of the girls that I felt like, oh, I really really get these girls and they really get me and we it felt like I'd known them for a really long time. But overall, all of the girls are just great. So we do like the camaraderie we're seeing this season. Yeah, yeah, seems like you guys have each other's back for sure. Yeah. It was like I was so scared because I watched Complete in season before to get output inspiration of all things, and I was marked. Sorry, oh my god, am I about to get like bullied, like crazy bullied on the show. I was super scared. But no, we didn't. It wasn't like that. The girls were so great. So it seems like, okay, let's get into this pool party and some not even like major major drama, but like there was a situation between us Christina and you know, Brianna and some of the other women. Just from your standpoint, since you lived with everyone, can you just speak a little bit about that whole scenario, Like did you witness Christina like ever being too much, like too open about her relationship with Zach and like kind of putting anyone else down. Yeah. I think for me, I was so hyperfixed on like my relationship with Zach and probably a little bit my own world of you know, I need to figure out, like how I'm going to progress my relationship. I was a little bit focused on that. But obviously, like these things happen and you have to be aware of them because it's all around you. So when everything happened that pool party, it was very disappointing because we were having such a fun day and I think that you know, people do have personalities and not everyone is going to click like you put thirty women together. There's no way everyone clicks with one another in personalities and you know, the way people speak are it's going to clash and that's just human nature. So it was unfortunate because I think it really took away from the fun of like the day and the day we were all having together. But I think that it's necessary, you know, if you're feeling a certain way to feel safe with your partner, to go and have those conversations. And I think we are all adults, so having those conversations with other adults that is important, Like how can you. You know, it's only your problem unless you make it someone else's. And so I think that those conversations needed to happen, but it was definitely a little bit disappointing. But people have personalities and not everyone will mesh. So throughout that day, when things started to get more tense, and you know, Brianna like take it. Take it to the moment, like Brianna just left and all of the women are sitting together, you know, you're all hanging out. Zach comes in and he basically addresses the situation of like why she went home and that there he mentions, there's somebody in the mansion that's kind of probably some like multiple not just Branna, but multiple women the wrong way and making comments and just kind of putting them down and making them feel uncomfortable, it seemed, and this and this just could be like kind of what was shown, but like as if you were it seems like when you're all together and Christie is sitting there, like it didn't really seem like she was aware that it would have been directed towards her. You know. Obviously after that he pulled her aside to have a conversation, but at any point, like were you aware that she was the one making some people feel uncomfortable and that she would be the one that he would pull, or like what was going through your mind where you're like, oh, it might be somebody else, it could be her, Like where was your head at? So I do remember in that moment, you know, it wasn't clear if it was like one person or multiple people, and that was like giving me some confusion. But I also remember, you know, the girls saying we had and I tried as remain Switzerland. I'm just gonna say that, like I tried to stay out of the drama. But like obviously you hear things and you hear people talking you're living in a house together. But I knew that there had been something at the date like the cocktail party where I wasn't because it was after the football game and we had lost, and I know that there was some like tensions from that, and but I didn't know like all the contexts, all the details, and honestly, like like I said, like I was focused on my relationship with Zach, so not the time or place where I was like, you know what, I'm about to get myself all into this drama, and like what's going on. So I tried to like take a step back and let everyone figure it out as adults and have conversations that needed to be had, but stay out of it. So I knew that there was already tensions though between maybe more than one person, but I knew it was all going to unfold. Would you say that you were busy daydreaming about spreading sunscreen over Zach at the beginning of the food party? How did you? Well, guys, you've got to jump at your opportunity, and I love them to have a few, few and far between of them in the beginning. Um so, yeah, No, I saw that sunscreen. He said, I'm gonna get a sunburn. I said, well, let me help you with that. Um, you know, got to protect my man's And then the sunscreen just magically appears in your hand. Yeah it was. I was like, oh, perfect, right here, let me just put this all over you. I did put a little bit too much. I think he was like, yeah, we can chill, it's okay, extra rubbed down. I would do the same. I was gonna say, you got to spend more time letting it soak in, you know, I wouldn't. Yeah, No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't have rubbed sunscreen on Zach. But I would say that if the person of who I was going after it just dumped the whole bottle. Yeah, I was like, I'm just gonna put as much on there so I can just keep touching you. Yeah. Um no, it was a great opportunity. You stole it and I love to see it. Um. Okay, before we get into the next part of this interview, I mean, it was a wild week in Boutchelor mansion. We saw a couple of girls go home, like not even at the Roaster money there's only Christina who went home at the rost ceremony. So fast forward to like the rest of the season. Without giving too much away, can you tease anything fun of what's to come, like what we can expect. M m, that's tough not teasing too much. I think that there this season, like you will see a lot of love, and you'll see a lot of emotions and probably some of the most genuine people, Like you'll get to know some of the most genuine people that I've ever met. And I do think that there is a lot of love between the girls with Zach, and I think it's like a really unique It's a unique season from what I've seen of the other seasons. I think this is a actual season. Oh special season. I like it. I'll take it very much. So well, Gabby, We've enjoyed chatting with you so much today. And before we let you go, we're gonna play a quick round of something called rapid fire. So we're gonna give you questions just to get to know you a little bit more emphasis on the word rappids. You don't have to give an explanation, just your answer, and Becca and I will swap back and forth asking you questions. Are you ready to go? I'm ready? Okay, here we go. Are you an early riser or a night owl? Oh? My god, depends on the day. Okay, all right, we'll take it. What is the best stating advice you've ever received? You can't change people? What is your go to pizza order? I'm really boring, I just like cheese. Can't What is one word that your best friends would use to describe you. What is your favorite curse word? You can say it too. You can say everyone gets caught up on this one. I have some weird words I say, like that aren't cuss words that are cuss words, and then I also use cuss words. Um, I probably say I dropped the F bomb a lot, which is pretty bad. I need to work on that. And then you're your your u um, I say, oh my god, there's so many things I say, Like I say fudge a lot, but that's not one of the weird ones. But like I'm gonna know, it's hard to be on the spot, Like I know, see that's a weird thing. I say, my Lanta, nothing to shake a stick at in there, like swimwear mente be. I'm telling you, guys, the nicknames were just about everything. It's len't just shake a stick. And I'm gonna start saying that now. Yeah. Um okay, what is the most played song or artist in your library? I love Drake like I love Drake so much. Um, yes, anythink Drake? Okay? What is your favorite cocktail? Um depends like who I'm trying to embody that night I'm trying to be like frisky or if I'm trying to be feisty. Um My goats would probably be like any kind of like gin cocktail. I love a gin tonic? Yes? And does that? Does that cue the feisty or does that? What? What version do we get with gin? That's like my fun side. Okay, okay, okay, love it. If you could be any animal, what would you be? Um? I would be a dolphin. I could see that. Actually, just friendly sees a dolphin and they're like, I hate that creature, somebody without a soul? No, but what is the current screensaver on your phone? Mine? Is me playing with my dad as a little kid, and I'm going you a kiss on his lap, like, oh little beanie, Oh I know. Okay, that's that is I have to say, one of the best screensavers we've seen. That's he that's here the late Um. Okay, if you could visit one place in the world, where would you go? Um, I'd love to go to like Bora Bora m seems really sexy. Seems really sexy. Yeah, I couldn't be mad at that. And you kind of briefly describe this a little bit. But if you had to choose a different word, if you're describing this season at a Bachelor in one word or phrase, what would it be? This sounds like cliche? But love okay, love love. Well, we are excited to see more of you okay, So Gabby, before we let you go, we always do a couple of fun last housekeeping things. Um, so we always start with our resource, which is just helping keep our listeners informed around timely topics, especially in regards to race in this country, in this franchise. And so I'll kick it off and then I'll let Michelle take the lead and share her resource, and then we'll have you follow up with yours and then we'll get into like the last fun Rosenthorne part. But to start for this week, my resource is an Instagram account. The account is her name is Dara Starr Tucker, and basically her entire Instagram page features videos about every topic from race, like things like blackface, grandfather clauses, racism in politics, etc. But the one that I'm want to highlight today, and I just would urge anyone to go check out her entire page and just follow her is it basically discusses the differences between black pride and white pride. And it's a conversation that she did this real around because she's seen a spark during Black History Month, which is obviously this month, and around why this designation between like black pride and white pride exists, leading from the question of like why isn't there a White History Month, which I'm sure a lot of maybe her white followers are just people on Instagram have asked about. So basically it goes into like how white pride and black pride pride comes across differently in this country, and it's basically because of the way race and culture has developed here. So she discusses the concept of race as a colonial concept to create like this hierarchy to groups of people based on their skin color. She gets into basically like the history of our country and the origins of slavery, and how when they were forced to come over to the United States, they were stripped of basically all of their traditions, Like they couldn't have their culture, their language, basically everything was stripped from them and they were forced into this like completely new social framework. And because of that, they had to really begin to develop like their own distinct culture of their own and a lot of that in part was fueled by like triumph in the face of extreme adversity. And she kind of lays it out as like it developed out of the need to overcome horrific circumstances. So it gets into so much more. And all of her videos are about I would say, like five minutes, so they're really quick, easy things to watch and read if you're on the go. But again, I highly recommend checking that one out just because it is February and we are in Black History Month. But her entire Instagram page is so interesting, so educational, and so again her name is Dara Stark Tucker. So that is my source of the week. And Michelle, if you want to go next, Yeah, so mine, I'm keeping mine short and sweet. As we are really getting into Black History Month, I'll be posting this like one sheet, So this one sheet reminder slash article, it's just the dows and don'ts a Black History Month really kind of focusing on what we can do to celebrate what we shouldn't be doing. Really kind of goes into just like quick little tidbits how to support black owned businesses, how to really raise awareness, how to celebrate and not doing it in a water down manner, and really kind of being sure that we are navigating this month insightfully and intentionally at the same time. And so again, the dews and don'ts a Black History Month, and I'll be posting that as like little one sheet on my resources. Cool. Thank you Michelle, and now Gabby, if you have a resource you would like to share, we would love to hear it. Um. The resource that I was going to share with you because I talked a lot about my therapy and like my journey through therapy was a book that my therapist recommended to me and we would actually like work through different sections of it. Um. It's called Attached and it's about adult attachment styles and how that happens from your childhood and how it like translates into your adult life. And I think it's really important to understand like how you were raised and how that impacts you as an adult and how you can be very mindful of it. So that's that's my resource. Thank thank you. I actually will say I just learned a bit more about I think it's the four different attachment styles, is that right, the four of them? And yeah, and like you could just take a quiz online too to kind of see your attachment style and like why it is to come. I was very surprised by it, I will say. So. I think that's great to share in something that you know anyone at any point can look more into so thank you for that. And then this is the last part, I swear. I know we keep adding on things before we let you go, but this is the fun part. It's your rose and thorn. So basically, your rose is going to be your highlight or your favorite moment of your time on Zach season so far. And then on the flip side, obviously the rose is something messy, awkward, a memory that you like wish maybe didn't happen or was shown. So whenever you want to share your rose and thorn. Okay, So my thorn would probably be the nickname word vomit that happened. It was pretty embarrassing. People are like, is this girl un hinched? Like is she okay? So probably that would be my thorn. But like I said, like getting accustomed to like all of the cameras and everything, I think that was a thorn in itself. My rose would probably be just like the girls that kept me so grounded when I was struggling in other areas. You know, those girls like help boost me up and I'm so grateful for that. And then those conversations that did go well and it wasn't me word vomiting and giving Sacking nicknames that he didn't want. Those were all really positive moments. Good. I love that. Well, Gabby, we are excited to see more of you. It seems like you're finally getting the time, the well deserved time with Sacks. So we can't wait to see where this takes you. And you know, throughout this journey it's a lot. We understand. Michelle and I have both been in your shoes. It's it's a crazy time with social media and just having the world witness you trying to fall in love. So if you ever need anything, any advice to events like we are always here for you, Well, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. And it's so awesome to meet both of you. I feel like I'm having a little fanned girl moment, but it's super awesome. We were very excited to have you. Yeah, you're somebody that we wanted. So I'm glad that we truly saw you. And I'm sure in a few weeks we'll either see you at the tell all or the finale however far you go, so look forward to because keep watching. Yes, well, thank you Gabby. All right, Michelle, that was nice when she seems so sweet, she seems really just sweet and genuine, and I love how open she was just about her all that comes, like all the just different difficulties or obstacles that kind of come with like having ADHD, and I love that she was able to open up about that. And I'm sure there's a lot of viewers that appreciate her having that Cannon conversation. So thank you again, Gabby for being so open. Michelle, I agree with you, and I love people who have like put in work, and you know, we've all been through stuff in our pasts. You know there's no way around that. But somebody who recognizes areas where they could do better or learn or just become more self aware, I really appreciate. I think it's a conversation that we should always be having. And so I'm that it sounds like before coming down the show, she went through some stuff, she did the work, and I love that she can speak on that more so, Yeah, I feel like she I feel like so far, like we've talked to some great women and I'm like I say this every week. I'm like, I think they're going to go far, and I'm always not right, So we'll see. But I really hope she does. She seems like a very just genuine, real, very dumb to earth woman. So thank you Gabby for joining us, and a big thank you to all of our Happy Hour listeners. We love chatting with you all each and every week. And I have to remind you all that new episodes of The Bachelor air every Monday at eight seventh Central on ABC, or you can also stream it next day on Hulu. And another reminder, casting is now open for men to date our next Bachelorette, whoever that might be. So if you are single or no somebody who is single, go to the website to nominate or apply at Bachelor nation dot com slash apply. 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