Ep:201 The Sasquatch Puzzle

<v Speaker 1>I have no interest in proving they exist. I already
<v Speaker 1>know they do. You know, when I was face to
<v Speaker 1>face that pretty much submitted what I was looking at,
<v Speaker 1>And even though I didn't believe it, I had no choice.
<v Speaker 1>When you're two feet away from something that's about nine
<v Speaker 1>foot four four feet across the shoulders, three feet deep
<v Speaker 1>in the chest, and you're looking eye to eye with it,
<v Speaker 1>its eyes are illuminated, there was no light to illuminate
<v Speaker 1>them with. And it's a series in your mind pretty
<v Speaker 1>much guarantees that you're going to become a believer.
<v Speaker 2>Like right now, this is Bigfoot Crossroads.
<v Speaker 3>My name's Matt and joining me is William Morris. William
<v Speaker 3>is the founder of the Sasquatch puzzle Man. What a
<v Speaker 3>fitting name, William, Thanks for joining.
<v Speaker 1>Me, Well, thank you. I'm glad to be here.
<v Speaker 3>So we were talking a little bit earlier about some
<v Speaker 3>unfortunate news that seems to be spreading around about a
<v Speaker 3>man that seems to be your mentor, Tom Kintrell, someone
<v Speaker 3>who's very well known and well respected throughout the Bigfoot world.
<v Speaker 3>He's a come to the end of this journey and
<v Speaker 3>starting his new journey.
<v Speaker 1>Would you like to talk about that? Absolutely well. I
<v Speaker 1>worked great yards. So when I got home this morning,
<v Speaker 1>I got the news that the Tom had passed. But
<v Speaker 1>I want to let you folks know he's still with us,
<v Speaker 1>but he's in and out. He's in the transition period.
<v Speaker 1>He made it through the night, but he's not expecting
<v Speaker 1>to make it through the day. Tom and I met
<v Speaker 1>when he was writing the book Sasquatch Face to Face.
<v Speaker 1>Somebody had posted a friend of mine had posted that
<v Speaker 1>another researcher that Tom was looking for stories of people
<v Speaker 1>that have had actual face to face adventures with the
<v Speaker 1>Sasquatch people. And well, mine was about as close as
<v Speaker 1>you get to face to face because I could reach
<v Speaker 1>out and touch him. That's how close we were. And that
<v Speaker 1>was in my second sighting. But Tom has been my teacher,
<v Speaker 1>my mentor. He's been there for when I thought I
<v Speaker 1>was going a little bananas because of some of the
<v Speaker 1>things I have witnessed in the presence of these majestic people.
<v Speaker 1>I call him force people because that's what they are.
<v Speaker 1>They are people. But Tom has held my hand through
<v Speaker 1>it all and guided me, and I just wish him
<v Speaker 1>God's speed that he goes quickly and easily with no pain.
<v Speaker 1>And his wish is to come back as a Sasquatch.
<v Speaker 1>So I hope to meaning before I transition as a Sasquatch.
<v Speaker 1>You know, that would be an amazing thing. That would be. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's always been his wish is to become a Sasquatch
<v Speaker 1>in his next life. So we'll see. Should be interesting
<v Speaker 1>because they've told him absolutely, you know, I mean, he's
<v Speaker 1>you know. The whole thing is is when I met Tom,
<v Speaker 1>and I wrote chapter twenty six, which is my own
<v Speaker 1>chapter in Sasquatch Face to Pace. Thank god, that's been
<v Speaker 1>like seven years ago, I think somewhere around near six
<v Speaker 1>or seven years ago. And I never thought I would
<v Speaker 1>be doing what I'm doing right now. If there wasn't
<v Speaker 1>for Tom, you folks would not know anything about me.
<v Speaker 1>I've been having experiences with him since I was sixteen
<v Speaker 1>years old, and I wanted nothing to do with them.
<v Speaker 1>But things changed and later in life here and I
<v Speaker 1>was able to meet people like Cliff Perrikman, Ken Gerhart
<v Speaker 1>and you know, people in that top group that I
<v Speaker 1>was absolutely able to get my experiences off my chest
<v Speaker 1>and had somebody I could actually speak with that didn't
<v Speaker 1>look at me like a deer in the headlights and
<v Speaker 1>like I'm crazy and the risk has been history, you know,
<v Speaker 1>And I probably met with Tom, and about a year
<v Speaker 1>and a half after that, you know, after finally getting
<v Speaker 1>my story out to somebody, and actually it was Mark forself,
<v Speaker 1>our eight canyan expert that I actually first told my
<v Speaker 1>story other than anybody in my family, you know, is
<v Speaker 1>something that I kept secret for thirty eight years. And
<v Speaker 1>now I'm in a year forty five of experiencing these guys.
<v Speaker 1>And it is because of Tom that I decided this
<v Speaker 1>is something I'd like to do. So now I started
<v Speaker 1>as a researcher March twenty seventh, twenty twenty one, and
<v Speaker 1>it was actually to call BS on Tom, which I've
<v Speaker 1>told Tom many times. I said, you know, be honest
<v Speaker 1>with you. I was out there to call BS on
<v Speaker 1>you and your techniques and lo and behold. The first
<v Speaker 1>time I went out with the intention of seeing one,
<v Speaker 1>I actually was in the company of two of them,
<v Speaker 1>and one of them was the one that I saw
<v Speaker 1>when I was not when I was sixteen. It was
<v Speaker 1>a different one, but not soon about eight months later
<v Speaker 1>and I call him Big Sober. I asked for him
<v Speaker 1>to come and connect with me and they did. Wow.
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I was like, Uh wow, Uh there's
<v Speaker 1>something to what Tom does. Instead of excuse me, call
<v Speaker 1>on him out and proven me wrong, I actually proved
<v Speaker 1>him right. And uh so I've been hooked ever since.
<v Speaker 1>I've had eleven sightings right now up to this point,
<v Speaker 1>and uh I hope to have a thousand more because
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm very active in the field. If you go
<v Speaker 1>to the Sasquatch Puzzle on Facebook, uh you'll see the
<v Speaker 1>stuff that's on there. That's a new site. I just started.
<v Speaker 1>This started a team. Matter of fact, Ron Moorehead is
<v Speaker 1>one of my team members who has never been a
<v Speaker 1>part of the team in all the years. Believe it
<v Speaker 1>or not, he's going out with hundreds of different researchers,
<v Speaker 1>but he's never been part of a team. And uh
<v Speaker 1>so it's it's quite an honor to have him there.
<v Speaker 1>And it consists of me, my friend Stan Schumlick. Stan
<v Speaker 1>Shemlick worked in Hollywood, he worked in law enforcement, did
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things. Matter of fact, if you like
<v Speaker 1>Casper the Ghost I do you ever saw Casper was
<v Speaker 1>his baby? Oh wow? He designed Casper for the movie
<v Speaker 1>and did all the effects and everything and stands is
<v Speaker 1>an expert in lighting, shadowing, all that stuff. And one
<v Speaker 1>of the things that was great and what got him
<v Speaker 1>started in this was through to Todd Nice and they
<v Speaker 1>were in a conversation about infrasound. And you know, for
<v Speaker 1>him being in Hollywood and the things that he does,
<v Speaker 1>you know, he kind of has to be an expert
<v Speaker 1>in sound. And that's what brought him into the puzzle.
<v Speaker 1>And because Todd invited him out of the blue to
<v Speaker 1>the last to the last beach pot and that's where
<v Speaker 1>Stanton I'm at. Then I decided to teach him out
<v Speaker 1>for a day just for afterwards, you know, for a
<v Speaker 1>little lesson. I was going to teach him about tree
<v Speaker 1>breakstree structures, staying with a total skeptic, absolutely a total
<v Speaker 1>skeptic on the subject. Matter of fact, if you'd said
<v Speaker 1>anything to him before he got with me, he would
<v Speaker 1>have laughed, you know, if you told him your big
<v Speaker 1>Foot story and stuff, and you know it kind of
<v Speaker 1>mocked you. And you know he had he had no
<v Speaker 1>belief in it whatsoever. So I took him out for
<v Speaker 1>a class and we got together and was the first
<v Speaker 1>day we went out, well, he had two sightings. Wow,
<v Speaker 1>the second day. We went out. The very next day,
<v Speaker 1>he had two more sightings face to face with my
<v Speaker 1>juvenile JJ, and the rest is history. I started. I
<v Speaker 1>asked Tea months that, you know, they really like you.
<v Speaker 1>Four sightings of two days, they really like you, And
<v Speaker 1>so I invited him to start a team. And the
<v Speaker 1>Sasquatch Puzzle was born. So everything that's on that site
<v Speaker 1>is just since August early September. Wow, that's just the
<v Speaker 1>things that we found this year. There's five trackways in
<v Speaker 1>there that we found, and some of it I actually
<v Speaker 1>I found them for the most part, but we went
<v Speaker 1>and all casted them together here recently, and I've got
<v Speaker 1>so many prints sitting on my coffee table here there's
<v Speaker 1>no room for anything. Yeah, we've it's been quite an adventure.
<v Speaker 3>How did this all start for you? You talked about having
<v Speaker 3>a sighting when you were just sixteen years old.
<v Speaker 1>I was. I was sixteen years old. I lived in
<v Speaker 1>Myrtle Creek, Oregon, and I lived about three and a
<v Speaker 1>half miles from town out in the country. And my
<v Speaker 1>first experience it was during the hunting season of nineteen eighty,
<v Speaker 1>which is you know, between It was somewhere in October,
<v Speaker 1>either towards the end of October or early November, which
<v Speaker 1>is at the end of the season, and I was hunting.
<v Speaker 1>I had permission to hunt the property I was on
<v Speaker 1>out there, and I come over the hill right behind
<v Speaker 1>the place where I lived on the property is a
<v Speaker 1>big ranch called the s Diamond Ranch. And as I
<v Speaker 1>come over the hill, which is just fifty yards from
<v Speaker 1>my bedroom, and come down this little roadway that was there,
<v Speaker 1>I saw something move and I looked over and my
<v Speaker 1>brain did not want to believe I was looking at
<v Speaker 1>a sasquatch. My brain wanted to believe I was looking
<v Speaker 1>at a giant rabbit, like there was any such thing
<v Speaker 1>as that. Yeah, this giant rabbit is about seven and
<v Speaker 1>a half feet tall, and yeah, but I'm standing there
<v Speaker 1>with my hunting your right. I never raised it towards it,
<v Speaker 1>you know, because I've always learned, don't shoot in anything,
<v Speaker 1>and once you plan on eating, well, I didn't plan
<v Speaker 1>on eating a sasquash, but or a giant rabbit. So
<v Speaker 1>but that's where my whole adventure began. And I was
<v Speaker 1>at sixteen years old. Then my next sightings were back
<v Speaker 1>to back. Was about eight months later and last end
<v Speaker 1>of May early June nineteen eighty one. I was just
<v Speaker 1>getting out of school. For that I was in high
<v Speaker 1>school and I was actually my mother and I had
<v Speaker 1>gotten into an argument, and so I stormed off walked
<v Speaker 1>to town, which I often did. I walked everywhere. Even
<v Speaker 1>though I had actually owned fourteen cars at the time.
<v Speaker 1>I used to buy them, fix them, sell them. You
<v Speaker 1>know that I was quite I could talk in a
<v Speaker 1>little old lady out of her Faul's chief back. That
<v Speaker 1>was a great car salesman. Yeah. My next sighting was
<v Speaker 1>my face to face that is in Tom Cantrell's book
<v Speaker 1>Sasquashed Face to Face, and we started my adventure with Tom.
<v Speaker 1>But that one I was they had calmed down, decide
<v Speaker 1>I was going to head home. This is like eleven
<v Speaker 1>thirty at night, and I'm walking along. I get a
<v Speaker 1>mile out of town. I still got two and a
<v Speaker 1>half miles to get home, and I hear four footsteps
<v Speaker 1>and they were quite heavy. I was like, well, sounds
<v Speaker 1>like an elephant walking or a horse, or you know,
<v Speaker 1>a could be an elk. I don't know, you know.
<v Speaker 1>And the fourth step, I turned to my right and
<v Speaker 1>it was standing right there was a three about a
<v Speaker 1>three foot drop off a little over three feet off
<v Speaker 1>the edge of the roadway, and we were looking face
<v Speaker 1>to face and that was and I was close enough
<v Speaker 1>that I could reach out and touch him. Wow, I did,
<v Speaker 1>I didn't because I was terrified. I was absolutely terrified.
<v Speaker 1>I heard the phrase, and the phrase that sticks out
<v Speaker 1>in my mind is a bolt of fear. It's like
<v Speaker 1>something just hit you with lightning and you are frozen.
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't move, and all I can say is feet,
<v Speaker 1>don't fail me, now, you know. And it's like, Pete,
<v Speaker 1>you're failing me because I couldn't move and I'm just
<v Speaker 1>sitting there and we're staring at eye. It was probably
<v Speaker 1>for about two to two and a half minutes, and
<v Speaker 1>then he just turned and walked away. Never tried to
<v Speaker 1>hurt me or anything, never was aggressive. We just sat
<v Speaker 1>there and looked at each other and he took three
<v Speaker 1>steps off and I never heard another sound after that,
<v Speaker 1>And so that was my second sighting. Then about week
<v Speaker 1>and a half later, I was getting ready for bed.
<v Speaker 1>I'm climbed in bed. My mom was at the other
<v Speaker 1>end of the place and she was in and I
<v Speaker 1>walked to my back window facing the hill that i'd
<v Speaker 1>walked over to saw the first one, and I saw
<v Speaker 1>the glowing eyes that I had seen when I was
<v Speaker 1>face to face, and it's like always right there. And
<v Speaker 1>he just squatting probably thirty feet from my bedroom window,
<v Speaker 1>up on the hillside, next to a tree, and apparently
<v Speaker 1>stayed there all night long. Well, I crawled in bed
<v Speaker 1>and got in a fetal position, and all I can
<v Speaker 1>say is Blue, don't kill us. Because I knew nothing
<v Speaker 1>about the Fast Watch people. Matter of fact, I wanted
<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with them at all. Even after these sightings.
<v Speaker 1>I wanted nothing to do with them. I was like,
<v Speaker 1>I know you're there, I know you're there. Just please
<v Speaker 1>leave me alone, you know, because who are you going
<v Speaker 1>to tell? First of all, this is back in nineteen eighties,
<v Speaker 1>you know, who are you going to tell? I go
<v Speaker 1>to the place to go report it. They're going to
<v Speaker 1>laugh me out of town because I do them all.
<v Speaker 1>You know, they all knew me. They're gonna go, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>Bill kind of went nuts, you know, And that's all there.
<v Speaker 1>You know, people are gonna you're kind of crazy, you know.
<v Speaker 1>But now it's just it's a common thing, and more
<v Speaker 1>and more people are accepting that, well, maybe there is
<v Speaker 1>something there and there's a lot of things out there
<v Speaker 1>we don't understand. But my mom that night on that
<v Speaker 1>third siding, when he was outside my window, this lasted
<v Speaker 1>all night long and just feeling watching, watching, watching, and
<v Speaker 1>she was actually frozen in her bed like she was
<v Speaker 1>being hit by infrasound. And she says, I couldn't move
<v Speaker 1>all night. And when she got up the next morning,
<v Speaker 1>I kind of rushed out there because the feeling kind
<v Speaker 1>of finally dissipated. And this is about six in the morning,
<v Speaker 1>and I'd heard my mom's stirring and she was finally
<v Speaker 1>able to move and get up, and I was like,
<v Speaker 1>how do you sleep? She says, I didn't And I
<v Speaker 1>said I didn't either. Let me tell you what happened.
<v Speaker 1>And then she understood that there was something there. Wow.
<v Speaker 1>Then about another week went by and her and I
<v Speaker 1>were in and out in the driveway and this is
<v Speaker 1>the fourth siding, and uh, my mom actually caught it
<v Speaker 1>because I told her about his eyes were green and
<v Speaker 1>they glowed, and it's it wasn't eye shine, they glow
<v Speaker 1>from within. You know, everybody talks about eyeshine. No eye
<v Speaker 1>shine is when you get a beer in the headlights, right,
<v Speaker 1>you know, there was no light. You know, when I
<v Speaker 1>was face to face with him, I was in a
<v Speaker 1>spot that was very dark, and the thing I'm looking
<v Speaker 1>at is glowing, and you know, I could just barely
<v Speaker 1>see the outline of what I was looking at. And
<v Speaker 1>probably because when I saw the first one, it's like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>you still don't believe. So he decided I'm going to
<v Speaker 1>make it really close to Paris so he can't deny
<v Speaker 1>what he saw. But we're standing in top of the
<v Speaker 1>driveway and it's dusk, but it's not dark yet, you know,
<v Speaker 1>it's just the sun that just crested it over the hills.
<v Speaker 1>And while I was sitting there talking with my mom,
<v Speaker 1>she she's like, oh, what that and drew my attention.
<v Speaker 1>That way as far across the field from the neighbor's place,
<v Speaker 1>across the way of their pasture, there's a tree line
<v Speaker 1>that goes across their pasture between the two properties, and
<v Speaker 1>it's about less than a quarter mile away, so you
<v Speaker 1>can still see pretty clear and just still very light out,
<v Speaker 1>and we watched him about every third step would turn
<v Speaker 1>back and look our direction as it was across the
<v Speaker 1>property that we were on, across the road and was
<v Speaker 1>going across the property the other side, but it was
<v Speaker 1>in the tree line, and I never seen anything move
<v Speaker 1>so smoothly through the forest. It's like there was no
<v Speaker 1>trees on the ground, no nothing in the way. They
<v Speaker 1>just glided. And we watched him across the through the
<v Speaker 1>tree line and across and then we washed him walk
<v Speaker 1>up the mountain on the other side, and you know,
<v Speaker 1>about every three steps he'd look back directly at it.
<v Speaker 1>And I felt a little different this time when I
<v Speaker 1>saw him. I wasn't as terrified, and it was kind
<v Speaker 1>of like they were saying goodbye. Yeah, you know, like, well,
<v Speaker 1>we'll see in thirty eight years. I got to say,
<v Speaker 1>they're pretty patient. But yeah, we watched him walk over
<v Speaker 1>the mountain. And then I was bodybuilding and I ran
<v Speaker 1>every day getting in shape and staying in shape, and
<v Speaker 1>I was all over those mountains. I used to matter
<v Speaker 1>of fact, there was a mountain I used to run
<v Speaker 1>to the top. I started out in a walk to
<v Speaker 1>get to the top, and I'd have to stop thirty
<v Speaker 1>times before I got there. Then I got to where
<v Speaker 1>I could walk and jog and walk and jog till
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'd get to the top of the mountain
<v Speaker 1>and then I got to where I could outrun my
<v Speaker 1>dog to the top of the mountain. Wow. Yeah, And
<v Speaker 1>so I got in some really good shape, especially running uphill,
<v Speaker 1>you know, because it was over a mile uphill, and
<v Speaker 1>it was not exactly it went to the back of
<v Speaker 1>my uncle's property, and I could not the way he
<v Speaker 1>moved and got over that mountain. That only took oh gosh,
<v Speaker 1>I'd have to say it was only about six or
<v Speaker 1>seven minutes. If I had done the same path, it
<v Speaker 1>probably would have taken me at least thirty to forty
<v Speaker 1>five minutes. Jeez. Yeah. So I was quite impressed. And
<v Speaker 1>then I just tried to forget about all that stuff
<v Speaker 1>after that for thirty eight years, just kept that inside.
<v Speaker 1>Even my mother and I didn't discuss it much, you know,
<v Speaker 1>it was just more like, you know, okay, we have
<v Speaker 1>a shared experience together. A matter of fact, we have
<v Speaker 1>a couple of them together. And because the first time,
<v Speaker 1>you know, when I told her, I said, you know,
<v Speaker 1>I didn't quite figure she believed me. Yeah, But after
<v Speaker 1>you know, she saw it for herself, it was a
<v Speaker 1>whole different story.
<v Speaker 3>Do you recall anything previous to those events where maybe
<v Speaker 3>they were already around and you just didn't realize it.
<v Speaker 1>You know, I didn't know about anything about tree knocks,
<v Speaker 1>structures anything like that, you know, a matter of fact,
<v Speaker 1>they were completely off my radar. We didn't have things
<v Speaker 1>like not finding Bigfoot. Sorry, Cliff, I love you, but
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, to kind of help us kind
<v Speaker 1>of get into the mode of finding different things, which
<v Speaker 1>you know, they didn't even go into depth on a
<v Speaker 1>lot of those things, right, you know, but you know
<v Speaker 1>I learned a lot of it by just getting out
<v Speaker 1>there and doing and finding things going and what we
<v Speaker 1>do as a team especially is look for what doesn't belong.
<v Speaker 1>You know, what is what am I looking at? You know,
<v Speaker 1>I probably walked past a thousand structures and tree brakes
<v Speaker 1>and everything and never knew or even had any kind
<v Speaker 1>of understanding that there could have been something that built
<v Speaker 1>that It wasn't natural, happened naturally. Now I can't unsee
<v Speaker 1>it wherever I go, it doesn't matter. I've been find
<v Speaker 1>structures that have found structures in Canada, in Washington State
<v Speaker 1>with Tom Cantrell. A matter of fact, first time Tom
<v Speaker 1>and I went out, we went up to barber Shops
<v Speaker 1>area where she does one of her camps off the
<v Speaker 1>Green River, and I found footprints that were fresh tree
<v Speaker 1>breaks and some tree weaves and stuff right there. And
<v Speaker 1>what Tom was hoping I would see what He absolutely
<v Speaker 1>took me to. This one spot which is just above
<v Speaker 1>her camp, is just a short little road. It's blocked off.
<v Speaker 1>Is there's a tree, an arch tree. It's actually two trees,
<v Speaker 1>one from each side of the creek weave together in
<v Speaker 1>a large arch, which he did you see that? I said, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>but I got cooler stuff in that in my area
<v Speaker 1>as Tom, Wait, did you see my pictures? Let's put
<v Speaker 1>it this way. I have over fourteen thousand pictures on
<v Speaker 1>my hard drive of the past five years of me
<v Speaker 1>doing my research. Wow, just tree breaks, structures, tree twists.
<v Speaker 1>And you know, if we were live on video right here,
<v Speaker 1>I could show you the prints that I've found, which
<v Speaker 1>you've seen on my site tree breaks. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>if you got to see the really cool tree breaks
<v Speaker 1>that's got like five twists in it, I don't think. So. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>there's a short little video on there. So anybody that
<v Speaker 1>goes there, school down there is got to understand that
<v Speaker 1>this is only this site isn't that old. It's very recent,
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, somewhere around the last of August or
<v Speaker 1>September is when I started the site, and all that
<v Speaker 1>stuff that's on there is everything from that point on,
<v Speaker 1>So it's just the last you know, six months or
<v Speaker 1>so or less.
<v Speaker 3>How did you find that?
<v Speaker 1>I just travel the roots. And the whole thing is
<v Speaker 1>is once you learn what you're looking at, you can
<v Speaker 1>unsee it. You can be going down the freeway at
<v Speaker 1>eighty miles an hour in spot a tree structure and
<v Speaker 1>be hitting the brakes going, well, I got to go
<v Speaker 1>check this out. It's that simple. Once you get the
<v Speaker 1>mindset and what you're doing and what you're looking for,
<v Speaker 1>it's actually everywhere. That's what people don't understand. They're everywhere.
<v Speaker 1>They're not just in one localized area. They're not just
<v Speaker 1>in little spaces here and there, but everywhere I go.
<v Speaker 1>A matter of fact, let me, I wrote down here
<v Speaker 1>just this last year. This is just this is just
<v Speaker 1>in the past year since July. Okay, rain Er, Oregon.
<v Speaker 1>That was Beachfoot. When I got to Beachfoot, I found
<v Speaker 1>my camp. I told Todd which one I wanted long
<v Speaker 1>before I got there, before the season started, and so
<v Speaker 1>I went down found my spot. Then I went from
<v Speaker 1>there up to pavilion where Todd was to check in
<v Speaker 1>and do everything for Beach Book. When I came back,
<v Speaker 1>there's a rock stack sitting at my camp that wasn't
<v Speaker 1>there when I got there. So just in the time
<v Speaker 1>that I went from the camp and it's probably was
<v Speaker 1>probably six hundred yards up to the pavilion, check in,
<v Speaker 1>get my hat, get all my beach foot goodies, and
<v Speaker 1>head back to camp. There's a rock stack there that
<v Speaker 1>happened in that period of time, just kind of like
<v Speaker 1>a welcome here. But Rainier was the first spot. Then
<v Speaker 1>I went from Rainier, I took Marie Dumont and her
<v Speaker 1>partner Bob, and a couple of the boys from the
<v Speaker 1>Red Dirt Cryptids in your neighborhood, Oh, mister h was
<v Speaker 1>Brian Treillah, and we all went out. I took them
<v Speaker 1>all out because Rae went rain and I have been
<v Speaker 1>friends and been talking for a long time and and
<v Speaker 1>she said, well, can you take us on an adventure
<v Speaker 1>after Beach Book because we're going to stay weak. I'ment, oh, absolutely,
<v Speaker 1>you know I will. So I took him out to
<v Speaker 1>Mount Hood Wilderness by near Trillium Lake. We were about
<v Speaker 1>a mile a little over a mile from Trillium Lake,
<v Speaker 1>and uh, I say, to camp because you know, this
<v Speaker 1>was an adventure I was giving to them. That was
<v Speaker 1>my gift to them. And they went out. They found footprints,
<v Speaker 1>they found tree twist and some little oddities and stuff
<v Speaker 1>through there, and uh the first night there wasn't much
<v Speaker 1>going on. But the second night, Bob and I were
<v Speaker 1>sitting up by the fire everybody else had go into bed,
<v Speaker 1>and uh, he thought he heard a dog barking, but
<v Speaker 1>it didn't sound quite like a dog. And he looked
<v Speaker 1>at me and he says, you hear that. I said, no,
<v Speaker 1>I did I miss that? And then I caught the
<v Speaker 1>next one. I went interesting. So we walked over this
<v Speaker 1>area on the other side of where I was camping
<v Speaker 1>to get a clearer listen of it. And what we
<v Speaker 1>heard was like that, and there was five vocalizations like that.
<v Speaker 1>I said, I looked at him. That ain't no dog.
<v Speaker 1>I said, that's a big foot sasquatch vocalization. And we
<v Speaker 1>heard tree knocks all the way back. And then things
<v Speaker 1>kind of settled down for a while, and uh, so
<v Speaker 1>he decided he's going to bed because we hadn't heard anything. Well, actually,
<v Speaker 1>in between there, we heard a nine hundred pound bullfrog.
<v Speaker 1>Because sasquatches like to mimic things, sure, and it sounded
<v Speaker 1>like a bullfrog, but it wasn't a bullfrog. And when
<v Speaker 1>it went off, Bob looks at me and I looked
<v Speaker 1>at him, and he said, gotta sound like a bullfrog.
<v Speaker 1>But that wasn't a bullfrog. It was a bad imitation.
<v Speaker 1>I said, yeah, it's a nine hundred pound bullfrog. We
<v Speaker 1>started laughing, and it's like probably seventy five feet from us,
<v Speaker 1>and so he decides to go to bed. After everything
<v Speaker 1>kind of settled down, I go laying my chant. Next
<v Speaker 1>thing I know, there's tapping. I had a cast iron
<v Speaker 1>pan out because I just bet everybody dinner, made a
<v Speaker 1>nice spaghetti dinner for them all, and I'm laying there
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden I heard a little shuffle outside.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, probably raccoon, you know, coming up because
<v Speaker 1>we're next to this little marshy area. And next thing
<v Speaker 1>I know is there's this tapping on my cast iron pan,
<v Speaker 1>and I consistent tapping, tapped for like thirteen times, and
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, it takes hands and nail or
<v Speaker 1>her fingers. Something do to with tapping like that. So
<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, I got a visitor and he's
<v Speaker 1>right outside my tent, and so I started a conversation
<v Speaker 1>with him. You know, I was laying out. I was
<v Speaker 1>actually playing Soda Crush on my phone. So as soon
<v Speaker 1>as I set that down and everything got the light down,
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it all stopped. So I was like, okay,
<v Speaker 1>I waited a few minutes, Okay, nothing, So I started
<v Speaker 1>playing my game again. It lights up my tent, you know,
<v Speaker 1>because of my phone coming on and tap tap tap
<v Speaker 1>tap tap tap tap tap tap again. So I'm like
<v Speaker 1>to shut my phone down, get it dark, you know,
<v Speaker 1>And I started talking with him, start a conversation with him.
<v Speaker 1>And this let went on for half an hour, and
<v Speaker 1>this little thing back and forth with me and this visitor,
<v Speaker 1>which I pretty much have to assuming was a sasquatch.
<v Speaker 1>And the third time it happened, I'm playing my game again.
<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, I'm playing my game. Do you
<v Speaker 1>mind if I play my game? And I guess they
<v Speaker 1>got frustrated, and when he went off, then I heard
<v Speaker 1>something hit my tent. It was something really light, and
<v Speaker 1>so I told Marie involved and everybody when we all
<v Speaker 1>got up the next morning, I said, yeah, I said,
<v Speaker 1>after all this, I said, something hit my tent. But
<v Speaker 1>it was really light, you know, and I'm out in
<v Speaker 1>an area where there's no trees, you know, I'm right
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the roadway and there's nothing around
<v Speaker 1>me that could you know, hit my tent. You know,
<v Speaker 1>if it fell out of a tree, you know, it
<v Speaker 1>would have to jump about you know, forty yards or so. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>And Marie and I explored around the back of my
<v Speaker 1>tent and I found this crushed daisy and I picked
<v Speaker 1>it up and I went, oh, that's interesting, I wonder
<v Speaker 1>and I looked at Marie and I threw it up
<v Speaker 1>on the top of my tent. That's the sound, I said. Oh,
<v Speaker 1>Sasquatch gave me a flour as he was partying. So
<v Speaker 1>I have that daisy still. I have every gift they
<v Speaker 1>ever gave me. I've got little hearts, set of stone
<v Speaker 1>and stones that and the whole thing is is the
<v Speaker 1>stones that I have a very large quartz crystal stone
<v Speaker 1>that was gifted to me from my Sasquash group. And
<v Speaker 1>then I've seen others post the same exact shape of stone. Actually,
<v Speaker 1>uh Senate posted one and I went, Actually, I got
<v Speaker 1>the same exact shaped stone, and I said, I know
<v Speaker 1>a few other people that have the same exact shaped
<v Speaker 1>stone and which kind of looks like them their head
<v Speaker 1>in a side profile view, you know, with the sagittal
<v Speaker 1>crest in the whole nine yards, but you can see
<v Speaker 1>the nose, the eyes, you know, in the whole nine
<v Speaker 1>yards that when you turn the stone sideways. I went,
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty darn interesting that several of us have been
<v Speaker 1>gifted something like that. So, but the next place I
<v Speaker 1>went to after Mount Hood, well not right after Mount
<v Speaker 1>The next thing I went to was a Sasquash summerfest
<v Speaker 1>and Oakridge, Oregon, with Priscilla Roseman in the Rose and
<v Speaker 1>Ron and I have become really good friends. In Priscilla
<v Speaker 1>and I have been really good friends. And I was
<v Speaker 1>sitting having coffee. My kids were on their way up
<v Speaker 1>because it was the first camping trip. If my kids
<v Speaker 1>are coming up and I get to a camp a
<v Speaker 1>night with my grandkids and there my grandkids were really
<v Speaker 1>interested in sasquatch. But I'm sitting there in the morning,
<v Speaker 1>looking across the Wilamotte River and just enjoying my coffee
<v Speaker 1>and getting myself awake and then out between two trees
<v Speaker 1>across the river, my juvenile pops up. They followed me everywhere. Wow.
<v Speaker 1>So and I have proof of that. There was something
<v Speaker 1>that happened at Oakridge the year before with doctor Arianna Love.
<v Speaker 1>She's one of the actually top naturropathic doctors in the world,
<v Speaker 1>and I'd met her there and there was a whole thing.
<v Speaker 1>I did interviews, which Aeremiah Byron on it. Matter of fact,
<v Speaker 1>to Jeremiah, I kind of helped him facilitate his per
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch sighting on that weekend. So it's there was actually
<v Speaker 1>five sightings generated and most of them were misas questions
<v Speaker 1>that followed me up by the description that they gave me.
<v Speaker 1>Then Uh I went to uh let us say, I've
<v Speaker 1>been to uh Drew, Oregon, which is where my partner
<v Speaker 1>or no true is where my research area is. It's
<v Speaker 1>near Tiller, Oregon. It's pretty much as the Rogue Unquad divide,
<v Speaker 1>so it's basically wilderness area and that's where I've had
<v Speaker 1>all my stuff and that's where I started with my
<v Speaker 1>fist siding calling Tom out and I had my sighting there.
<v Speaker 1>I have stands, had five sidings there so far. Like
<v Speaker 1>I said, they really like him. The last one was
<v Speaker 1>that we were we had just filmed one of our
<v Speaker 1>episodes for YouTube called Twist to Tuesday, and what he
<v Speaker 1>did is he put it in a timeline on that
<v Speaker 1>so you can check a timeline on it as to
<v Speaker 1>every discovery we made that day, and people like Ron
<v Speaker 1>that told us that, you know, my old partner al
<v Speaker 1>Berry would have looked at you guys and said, you're
<v Speaker 1>full of it, that you can't find all this stuff.
<v Speaker 1>So that's what inspired stand to when he did this
<v Speaker 1>video to put timeline stamps on everything we found that day,
<v Speaker 1>so you can see, well, one's like five minutes from
<v Speaker 1>the other one, the other one was like ten minutes away,
<v Speaker 1>the other one's about twenty minutes away, the other one
<v Speaker 1>is another five minutes and this and so on and
<v Speaker 1>so on and so on in only being out for
<v Speaker 1>five hours. And this is my research. These are things
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't even discovered yet that we're there. So it's
<v Speaker 1>nice to have an extra pair of eyes, yeah, you know,
<v Speaker 1>to find this stuff. So you know, because there's another
<v Speaker 1>perspective I.
<v Speaker 3>Wanted to ask you. You mentioned the area being where
<v Speaker 3>you went to originally Tom out on bs M.
<v Speaker 1>That's the one and Drew what happened?
<v Speaker 3>What did you do?
<v Speaker 1>Exactly? And you know, it's what Tom calls in his books.
<v Speaker 1>That was the whole thing is. You know, Tom wasn't
<v Speaker 1>really showing me a lot of stuff. We're talking a
<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff, but you know, we had lots of
<v Speaker 1>conversations back and forth. But he has this thing called
<v Speaker 1>armchair squatching, and this is his thing. That's where you
<v Speaker 1>just kind of pack a lunch, take a book with you,
<v Speaker 1>take a share, whatever you know, and you just go
<v Speaker 1>out in the woods and just get one with the woods,
<v Speaker 1>listen to all the sounds of the woods, everything that's
<v Speaker 1>happening out there, and try to connect with them. And
<v Speaker 1>so I get out there and this is what I'm
<v Speaker 1>calling bs AUDI. And a matter of fact, there was
<v Speaker 1>another guy that was up in the area and I'd
<v Speaker 1>stopped to talk to him because I thought maybe he
<v Speaker 1>was lost or something. He said, I'm just looking for
<v Speaker 1>places to write my quad And my intention was the
<v Speaker 1>whole thing started the a week earlier. Actually, So what
<v Speaker 1>Tom had said in a podcast that they connect with
<v Speaker 1>you mentally and that connection can last for life. And
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, sure. Now I spent an entire week
<v Speaker 1>thinking going, okay, I'm going to really try this out.
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to try to project and connect with them
<v Speaker 1>somehow in my mind and consciously that okay, I want
<v Speaker 1>to meet you. And I would review the sightings I had,
<v Speaker 1>like my face to pace and the one where he's
<v Speaker 1>behind my place, and the one that we watched it
<v Speaker 1>across the field. Those were all three of the same
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch and I call him big Silber now, but then
<v Speaker 1>he was blacker than black. It is like looking into
<v Speaker 1>a black hole because they just absorbed the light. It's
<v Speaker 1>just a It's really a strange thing to see. And
<v Speaker 1>my juvenile is the same way, just blacker than black,
<v Speaker 1>and just it's like a light vacuum, no reflection to
<v Speaker 1>the hair or anything. It doesn't shine, you know, It's
<v Speaker 1>just it's just a black void. And so I decided, okay,
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go up there. So on my way up,
<v Speaker 1>I got to experience my first mind speak, which kind
<v Speaker 1>of freaked me out a little bit. I didn't know
<v Speaker 1>anything about it. I was figuring, okay, this is telepathy.
<v Speaker 1>Everybody calls it mine speak, which I didn't know until
<v Speaker 1>you know, after this happened. But I was getting ready
<v Speaker 1>to turn off on the main highway and I still
<v Speaker 1>have another fifteen miles to drive. But as I'm turning off,
<v Speaker 1>I hear the booming voice in my head, We're not
<v Speaker 1>going to meet you where you want to meet, Because
<v Speaker 1>I spent the whole week of rolling over everything in
<v Speaker 1>my mind that I wanted to meet that particular Sasquatch
<v Speaker 1>and that and where to meet. There's a place that
<v Speaker 1>I've hunted. I've been up there since God, since I
<v Speaker 1>was sixteen seventeen years old. I've gone. I know every
<v Speaker 1>inch of the mountain. I walked every inch of it.
<v Speaker 1>And there's a space, a prairie area that I was
<v Speaker 1>concentrating on and picturing in my mind, you know, because
<v Speaker 1>like I say, I know every square inch of this
<v Speaker 1>mountain and this is where I want to meet you guys.
<v Speaker 1>But as I turned onto that highway, that big booming
<v Speaker 1>voice came out said We're not going to meet where
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to meet. And I'm looking all over my friend,
<v Speaker 1>going where the hell did that come from? Because it
<v Speaker 1>kind of it kind of freaked me out. I was
<v Speaker 1>not expecting that it's nothing that's everything never happened to
<v Speaker 1>me before. Or I just thought, okay, Bill, calm down,
<v Speaker 1>you're starting to lose it. Something very strange is going
<v Speaker 1>on here, and so, you know, I just kind of
<v Speaker 1>put it in the back of my mind. But when
<v Speaker 1>I got up there after I talked to this gentleman,
<v Speaker 1>you know, I drove up as far as I could,
<v Speaker 1>and I hit a wall of snow, you know, about
<v Speaker 1>five feet deep and uh because which means at the
<v Speaker 1>top there's it was probably fifteen feet deep. So the
<v Speaker 1>road didn't go through yet things hadn't melted off because
<v Speaker 1>it goes all the way up over five thousand feet
<v Speaker 1>on this mountain where I'm at, and there's another area
<v Speaker 1>called that I called the truck. I dubbed it's a
<v Speaker 1>triangle marsh because it's a triangle shape little marsh, and
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, okay, this looks like the place.
<v Speaker 1>The other guy caught up with me, and so we
<v Speaker 1>chatted up for a little bit and stuff, and then
<v Speaker 1>he took off. But at the time he and I
<v Speaker 1>were chatting, there was another truck that flew by, and
<v Speaker 1>we're laughing as he goes by and go out, he'll
<v Speaker 1>be back in a minute. Sure enough he's turned around
<v Speaker 1>headed back the other way. Yep, you're not getting through.
<v Speaker 1>So we finished our conversation. I well, I guess this
<v Speaker 1>isn't a good place as any So I grab my
<v Speaker 1>lunch because I'm doing everything that Tom instructed me to do.
<v Speaker 1>And another thing that he instructed me to do is
<v Speaker 1>don't pay attention to him when they're there. You know
<v Speaker 1>they're there. You can look over once in a while,
<v Speaker 1>you know, you said, But the more you ignore them,
<v Speaker 1>the longer your sighting will be. My signing lasted forty
<v Speaker 1>five minutes. Wow that day. Oh well, I've had longer ones.
<v Speaker 1>But so I grabbed my lunch. I went down through
<v Speaker 1>the woods and stuff, and I'm looking around. Okay, worre
<v Speaker 1>it's a good spot. Well, you know, I want to
<v Speaker 1>look out over the marsh, so I have a good
<v Speaker 1>view of the area and everything. And there's this Douglas
<v Speaker 1>spur root that comes out. The thing's geez, probably i'd
<v Speaker 1>say ten inches in diameter that came out into like
<v Speaker 1>a little bench. I went, oh, this is perfect. I
<v Speaker 1>can sit here, I can look out over the field.
<v Speaker 1>And guess what book I brought with me, sasquatch face
<v Speaker 1>to Face by Tom Cantrell. I hadn't completely read it yet,
<v Speaker 1>so I pay, oh, well, this is a good opportunity
<v Speaker 1>to read it while I'm out there. So I sat
<v Speaker 1>down and relaxed for a minute or so, went yeah,
<v Speaker 1>this is a good spot. Kick back on that little bench.
<v Speaker 1>And the first thing in my head is and I
<v Speaker 1>thought this. I didn't say it out loud. I just
<v Speaker 1>thought it, Okay, give me a tree knock. Damn it wasn't.
<v Speaker 1>Just half a second later I got a tree knock,
<v Speaker 1>and it was seemed like it was probably about a
<v Speaker 1>quarter mile away to my southwest. Okay, maybe that was
<v Speaker 1>an anomaly. So I started reading a book. I'm relaxing there.
<v Speaker 1>Then the next thing I know, I hear a whistle
<v Speaker 1>to the south of me, and then I hear another
<v Speaker 1>one to the west of me. Then I heard one
<v Speaker 1>directly to the north of me, behind me on the hillside,
<v Speaker 1>and uh, it was like a tactical whistle, you know,
<v Speaker 1>them telling each other, Okay, I'm here, i'm here, I'm here.
<v Speaker 1>You know, they've got me surrounded on three sides. But
<v Speaker 1>they left aside to my vehicle open. So if I
<v Speaker 1>wanted to make a mark, if they wanted to march
<v Speaker 1>me out of there. They had no problem doing that,
<v Speaker 1>you know, they could just direct me back towards the vehicle.
<v Speaker 1>So here the hell out of me. But by this
<v Speaker 1>time I've already lost my pharaoh, you know. And what
<v Speaker 1>did that was a podcast I've seen that guy said
<v Speaker 1>they never tried to hurt me. And I thought about
<v Speaker 1>it and perseverated on that, which is, you know, overthinking
<v Speaker 1>about it. And I went, you know what, I had
<v Speaker 1>four sightings. Every time there was no aggression. They never
<v Speaker 1>tried to hurt me. Why am I so terrified? And
<v Speaker 1>I dropped the fear And that's what made all the
<v Speaker 1>difference in the world. So I'm sitting on that bench.
<v Speaker 1>The whistles went on, and I'm like, okay, and I
<v Speaker 1>look up and I've looked out field and there's wait
<v Speaker 1>a minute, what is that. I see this sill relooking
<v Speaker 1>bush there, and I'm going, now, I know there's no
<v Speaker 1>bush there? What am I looking at? And I got over,
<v Speaker 1>I got up, stood up and looked at it about
<v Speaker 1>three different times. By the third time, I went, oh,
<v Speaker 1>you're here. Is hairy turned silver? You know it still
<v Speaker 1>has black. You can see both colors it's like the
<v Speaker 1>ends were silver and the inner part closest to his
<v Speaker 1>body were still black, and which would make sense because
<v Speaker 1>we're both probably he's probably been older than me, probably
<v Speaker 1>at least ten or fifteen years, if not more. So
<v Speaker 1>it made sense to me, Well, you know the hair
<v Speaker 1>is going to change color. You know, their's is like
<v Speaker 1>cars or they've reported every color that you could, you
<v Speaker 1>know the humans have of the sasquatches. So I thought, okay, well,
<v Speaker 1>what he was kind of sitting on his heels with
<v Speaker 1>his knuckles dragtly in front of him. And one of
<v Speaker 1>the questions I had was how do they hide in
<v Speaker 1>plain sight and not be seen? Well, he's showing me,
<v Speaker 1>and he showed me. He had his knuckles to the
<v Speaker 1>ground in front of him and his head down so
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't see his eyes, and he just looked like
<v Speaker 1>a bush. If I'd been out there walking, I could
<v Speaker 1>have come within feet of him still wouldn't have recognize
<v Speaker 1>that there's a sassoure sitting there. So that kind of
<v Speaker 1>amazed me. Yeah, I went, oh, I understand, now, okay,
<v Speaker 1>this is how you that's where these people are going. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I was watching a tree stump and it got up
<v Speaker 1>and walked away. I understand that, you know, because they
<v Speaker 1>consider for hours like a statue. He never moved one
<v Speaker 1>single hair, you know. That's in the forty five minutes
<v Speaker 1>he was sitting there. But once I recognized it was him,
<v Speaker 1>I sat down, well, okay, And next thing I know,
<v Speaker 1>directly to my west was three super fast tree knocks.
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was like machine gun knocks. And I
<v Speaker 1>was like, whoa. I should have been able to see
<v Speaker 1>what was knocking. It was that close, you know, because
<v Speaker 1>I can see him and through the woods, and I
<v Speaker 1>didn't see it. I'm like, oh, that's interesting. So the
<v Speaker 1>next time, you know, because I'm still trying to ignore him,
<v Speaker 1>were there, you know, I'd get up every few minutes
<v Speaker 1>to stretch my back and stand up and kind of
<v Speaker 1>look over him. He's still there. And the next time
<v Speaker 1>I got up, I looked over and his juvenile was
<v Speaker 1>standing next to him. And I had to call Tom
<v Speaker 1>after that because I'd never seen a juvenile. I never
<v Speaker 1>even thought about a juvenile, I said Tom. I thought
<v Speaker 1>it'd be bigger. He's like, well, you know, they got
<v Speaker 1>to start out small. You know, he's a kid, you know.
<v Speaker 1>Estimating me was probably about eight years old in sund
<v Speaker 1>squash years, in which Tom agreed, you know, that's about
<v Speaker 1>the age he would have been. Right now, he's right
<v Speaker 1>around preteen or right just turned teenager, and he's filling out.
<v Speaker 1>He's taller than I am, but at the time, it's
<v Speaker 1>about five foot tall, standing next to his head on
<v Speaker 1>his shoulder, and got that little rock back and forth,
<v Speaker 1>you know, left or right, and and uh I look
<v Speaker 1>up and I'm like, wow, sky hmm, that's a juvenile. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>looks like a stick figure with hair because of hair
<v Speaker 1>rut off the bottom of his arms about six inches,
<v Speaker 1>you know. And and I swear you know, if you
<v Speaker 1>ever see these these kids that live in their parents'
<v Speaker 1>basement and the only thing they've ever lifted was a
<v Speaker 1>video game controller, you know, their arms are like the
<v Speaker 1>size of a pencil. And right, you know, that's what
<v Speaker 1>he looked like, except you had hair. And I'm like,
<v Speaker 1>oh wow. You know, I'm being introduced to the juvenile.
<v Speaker 1>And that's the one I interact with most, is the juvenile.
<v Speaker 1>And the citing lasted for forty five minutes, So after
<v Speaker 1>it was over, I walked up th Road because I
<v Speaker 1>knew the juvenile came from the west. So I walked
<v Speaker 1>up the road to go look for Prince and I
<v Speaker 1>found three prints and uh, you know, not a dig step.
<v Speaker 1>The first step from foot the foot heel to heel
<v Speaker 1>was a thirty two inch step. The next one was
<v Speaker 1>thirty four inch and the next one was thirty four inches,
<v Speaker 1>so I could see where he came from and you know,
<v Speaker 1>and then hit it out to where you know, he
<v Speaker 1>ended up with the other side of the marsh there,
<v Speaker 1>which was only about it's about seventy five eighty yards
<v Speaker 1>away and the rest is history. I mean, I was hooked.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Wow, Tom's stuff really worked. It's what he
<v Speaker 1>calls armchair squatching, but it works. And this is what
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be teaching people on the puzzle is
<v Speaker 1>what happens is if you had a siding, they've already
<v Speaker 1>chosen you. And that's the whole thing is. I don't
<v Speaker 1>think she reveals themselves to people unless they choose them,
<v Speaker 1>you know, and that's when they kind of show themselves
<v Speaker 1>and they're kind of fishing poor a reaction like they
<v Speaker 1>did with me when I was sixteen and seventeen, and
<v Speaker 1>you know, my reaction was terror, which it is with
<v Speaker 1>most people. And what I understand about that now is
<v Speaker 1>that it's your own perception. You know. I was raised
<v Speaker 1>with monster movies and everything. I couldn't wait to get
<v Speaker 1>home from school because they were monster movies on. You know.
<v Speaker 1>It was there were a show that was on and
<v Speaker 1>they showed monster movies, you know, at a particular time.
<v Speaker 1>And uh, you know, I watched all the utterly mins
<v Speaker 1>and things growing up. And I'm not sure about your age,
<v Speaker 1>but you know, we had a lot of monster shows
<v Speaker 1>when I was growing up, for sure. And you know,
<v Speaker 1>that's what gives me is everybody calls them, you know,
<v Speaker 1>a monster, and it's like they're actually far from it.
<v Speaker 1>They're so much like us, it's amazing. But they're not us,
<v Speaker 1>you know, they think differently, but they can communicate with
<v Speaker 1>you in any way they wish. They can do it
<v Speaker 1>through mental telepathy, mind speak, they can do it with thoughts.
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm constantly connected to them. They know everything that
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing. And anytime they visit me in my house
<v Speaker 1>and I live in town. They come into my house,
<v Speaker 1>they moved things around to let me know they were there.
<v Speaker 1>They deep gifts and I never thought that'd be happening either,
<v Speaker 1>and Tom never mentioned that part. I actually learned that
<v Speaker 1>from ar Le Collette Williams. You know that, you know,
<v Speaker 1>because they're always leaving her gifts, and I have other
<v Speaker 1>friends that they lead gifts. They've been into their car,
<v Speaker 1>they've taken stolen their snacks. That little turn stole my sacks. Uh,
<v Speaker 1>my son. Even in California, we found a trackway up here.
<v Speaker 1>I had taken squashing them for the first time, and
<v Speaker 1>we found a trackway over four hundred frants in the snow.
<v Speaker 1>It was my entire Sasquatch family. It was from the
<v Speaker 1>smallest one, which I call Toddles because it's toddler. I
<v Speaker 1>still haven't met that one yet. I met the alpha
<v Speaker 1>female and the juvenile, and I've known the other one
<v Speaker 1>for you know, the whole forty five years. So it's uh.
<v Speaker 1>And they've always been there whenever I'm out hunting in
<v Speaker 1>the woods everything, even though I didn't want nothing to
<v Speaker 1>do with them. I've heard them chatting in the woods
<v Speaker 1>when I know there's nobody else out there, tree knocks,
<v Speaker 1>I've had things tossed across my path many many times,
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's the time I never understood the
<v Speaker 1>tree bricks, but I didn't know the tree knocks were them,
<v Speaker 1>you know. I figured that out with before finding Big
<v Speaker 1>Put and Expedition Big Put and all this stuff. I
<v Speaker 1>already knew that that was them. And I hear that
<v Speaker 1>and has heard it my entire life. Everywhere I go
<v Speaker 1>in the woods, I get tree knocks. So it's quite amazing.
<v Speaker 1>And I took a video recently called on my YouTube,
<v Speaker 1>When and How I Became a Sasquatch Researcher, which tells
<v Speaker 1>this particular story. While I was filming it, I was
<v Speaker 1>out there solo. My partner now is going through it
<v Speaker 1>right now and re edited in and what he's doing
<v Speaker 1>is taking out my ms. Dell, you got too many
<v Speaker 1>ums there with a pause, and I'm cutting that stuff out,
<v Speaker 1>you know. He said, I'm trying to make you look intelligent.
<v Speaker 1>I said, you know what, I'm watching the Senate hearings
<v Speaker 1>and these senators out there doing the same thing. I said,
<v Speaker 1>you know why we do it. It's because we're collecting
<v Speaker 1>our thoughts, right So the next thing we're going to say,
<v Speaker 1>you know, So I take this video and it ended
<v Speaker 1>up a two parter. And the weird part is is
<v Speaker 1>he's finding what is most likely infrasound. While I was
<v Speaker 1>videotaping this, there was no wind, and he's looking at
<v Speaker 1>the leaves behind me, going, well, it was windy you.
<v Speaker 1>I said, do you hear wind on the microphone? He
<v Speaker 1>said no, absolutely none. I said, there was no wind
<v Speaker 1>at that time. The leaves behind me were vibrating. Oh wow.
<v Speaker 1>My recorder actually shut off at one point towards the end.
<v Speaker 1>That's why it ended up a two parter. And as
<v Speaker 1>soon as it came back on, it should not have
<v Speaker 1>come back on. Once you turn this thing, shut this
<v Speaker 1>thing down, it stops period. You know, you have to
<v Speaker 1>physically restarted and everything. And I didn't restart it. It
<v Speaker 1>came on automatically, and just after it came back on,
<v Speaker 1>I heard a tree knock. You know, I had no
<v Speaker 1>idea I was getting hit with infrasound or anything else.
<v Speaker 1>But he's working on getting through this one because there's
<v Speaker 1>more stuff he's finding as far as the infrasound goes
<v Speaker 1>and the sound anomalies. So we'll be uh reposting a
<v Speaker 1>newer version of that that's been edited for this to
<v Speaker 1>show the sound bars and everything when the sound went
<v Speaker 1>crazy and he only found it because he was rewinding
<v Speaker 1>and he watched the the sound bars go bananas. He's like,
<v Speaker 1>what was that? And he started playing it back and forth,
<v Speaker 1>going there's something here and it's inaudible. You can't it's
<v Speaker 1>blow our hearing. And that's when he discovered, well, I've
<v Speaker 1>got infrosound on that. So that's what he's working on
<v Speaker 1>right now as well, and that should be out here shortly.
<v Speaker 1>But I did that one several months ago, and that
<v Speaker 1>was when I first started the puzzle because I wanted
<v Speaker 1>people know this is you know where my restart started.
<v Speaker 3>Do you have any answers? So, like, obviously you're talking
<v Speaker 3>about things that many people have repeated and said in
<v Speaker 3>the past. You know, there's people out there experiencing these
<v Speaker 3>things that have no explanation.
<v Speaker 1>We don't.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, how do they do the things they do?
<v Speaker 3>How do they go from this spot in Oregon to
<v Speaker 3>your house to California?
<v Speaker 1>Well they now they go all the way down. My
<v Speaker 1>son lives just out of the Mahabi Desert in Landers, California.
<v Speaker 1>Stan lives in Winston, or not Winston, but ten mile, Oregon,
<v Speaker 1>which from here is right around ninety five miles from
<v Speaker 1>my driveway. Beach Foot was in Rainier, Oregon, way up
<v Speaker 1>towards the Oregon border, across from Vancouver, know than oak Ridge.
<v Speaker 1>They followed me everywhere and they kind of act as
<v Speaker 1>my bodyguard. But as far as answers go, man, every
<v Speaker 1>time we get an answered a question answered, we have
<v Speaker 1>a thousand more. Yeah. That's just the way this is it.
<v Speaker 1>It is a bottomless rabbit hole. And that's the first
<v Speaker 1>thing I told Stan the first day I took him out.
<v Speaker 1>I looked at him, I said, are you ready for this?
<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, yeah, I said, this is a very
<v Speaker 1>cheap rabbit hole that really has no bottom. Oh, I've
<v Speaker 1>been down rabbit holes before. Well oh boy, you said, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>he's got a whole different opinion of the ex now
<v Speaker 1>he's like, yeah, he said. The amazing part is that
<v Speaker 1>once one questions answered, I got a thousand more. I said, exactly.
<v Speaker 1>I said, this is endless, and it's going to be endless,
<v Speaker 1>you know, as long as we do this for the
<v Speaker 1>rest of our lives. But that's the reason I started
<v Speaker 1>the Sasquatch puzzle. It's so hopefully people that work with
<v Speaker 1>us to everybody has a piece of the puzzle. And
<v Speaker 1>I've been saying this for years, and that's where the
<v Speaker 1>name comes from. I've always said everybody has a piece
<v Speaker 1>of this puzzle, and if we all start to communicate together,
<v Speaker 1>we can put it into a bigger picture where we
<v Speaker 1>can better understand them and maybe, you know, form better
<v Speaker 1>relationships with them. And you know, because there aren't a
<v Speaker 1>lot of people that have the type of relationship I have,
<v Speaker 1>Tom had Arla has, you know, and other people have
<v Speaker 1>with them. There aren't a lot of people out there
<v Speaker 1>that are, but they don't talk about it. You know,
<v Speaker 1>they help them on their property, They you know, been
<v Speaker 1>interacting with them a long time, but they don't tell anybody.
<v Speaker 1>You know. There's so many people out of there about
<v Speaker 1>for probably every one siding, there's at least ten that
<v Speaker 1>don't get reported, right or more. I would have to
<v Speaker 1>say more than ten. I would be probably more of
<v Speaker 1>the lines of twenty one in twenty is probably reported.
<v Speaker 1>And who fort it to BFRO? Let me tell you
<v Speaker 1>about this. The BFRO has over sixty six thousand sightings registered.
<v Speaker 1>What do they let us see about six thousand? That's it?
<v Speaker 1>What are they hiding and why are they doing that?
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of it is one thing you
<v Speaker 1>don't find in their sight and in their sightings is
<v Speaker 1>the wu part. They don't believe in any of that.
<v Speaker 1>And the only way you get introduced to that part is,
<v Speaker 1>first of all, if they're comfortable with you, they show
<v Speaker 1>you more things, things that they can do. Why there's
<v Speaker 1>two separate groups, It's ridiculous, it really is, you know.
<v Speaker 1>And I used to be the same way. I was,
<v Speaker 1>flesh and blood all the way. King Gerhart will tell
<v Speaker 1>you he's like, no, no, Bill. And I s out
<v Speaker 1>there and picked apart these other people's little things that
<v Speaker 1>the conferences and stuff. We're laughing out and go, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>other these guys are nuts, you know. L it happening
<v Speaker 1>to me and I'm like, you know, just grabbing the throws.
<v Speaker 1>That's when I started calling Tom, Tom. I think I'm
<v Speaker 1>going banana, I said, you know, Tom, for three months,
<v Speaker 1>I've been hearing my name called in the woods by
<v Speaker 1>a woman. And this led up to my six siding,
<v Speaker 1>which lasted an hour and a half. I actually sat there,
<v Speaker 1>played my guitar to him and chatted with him. And
<v Speaker 1>I actually have a photograph, actually two photographs from that day,
<v Speaker 1>my Sasquatch female and her juvenile my little buddy JJ,
<v Speaker 1>but I haven't had That was taken on a crappy
<v Speaker 1>camera on my phone, my last phone, which was really
<v Speaker 1>not a top of the line phone. But it is
<v Speaker 1>actually fairly crisp and clear. And uh, I've got a
<v Speaker 1>couple of people that are going to work on enhancing
<v Speaker 1>that bring out more detail. I know there's a monkey
<v Speaker 1>business you can do with gray scale and stuff, and
<v Speaker 1>different things said it'll bring it out, but I've given
<v Speaker 1>it actually to four different people and nobody's come through yet.
<v Speaker 3>But you did something that most people don't and that
<v Speaker 3>is you know, you're talking about how much it would
<v Speaker 3>benefit the entire Bigfoot community if everybody had just work
<v Speaker 3>together and share information. And one of the key things
<v Speaker 3>that you did that a lot of people don't do
<v Speaker 3>is you ignored your preconceived opinions and theories and you
<v Speaker 3>just tried it. You just listened and tried it just
<v Speaker 3>to see for yourself. Hey, I'm just going to find
<v Speaker 3>out if this really works or not. And it slammed
<v Speaker 3>open barn doors for you.
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's it. And the thing of it is is
<v Speaker 1>I watched Not Finding Bigfoot for ten years. You know
<v Speaker 1>that Cliff and Bobo and I've never sorry, but I'm
<v Speaker 1>not a moneymaker. Fan. Renne and I you know, chat
<v Speaker 1>on occasion and uh, but all the stuff that they did,
<v Speaker 1>I was sitting here. I'm a critical thinker, you know.
<v Speaker 1>I use reasoning logic, you know. And that's the whole thing.
<v Speaker 1>If you if you don't, you know, there's no point
<v Speaker 1>in doing this right because I'd never do say when
<v Speaker 1>I put out the videos and stuff that this is
<v Speaker 1>actually Sasquatch. It's like I wasn't here. I didn't see
<v Speaker 1>this being built, you know, So I can't say that
<v Speaker 1>this is absolutely Sasquatch. Now I can see the footprints
<v Speaker 1>are and I got plenty of them. But other than that,
<v Speaker 1>you know, as far as proof goes, it's like I
<v Speaker 1>didn't see it being made. So you'll you'll see me
<v Speaker 1>in the video. Well you know, I'll always say, well
<v Speaker 1>what do you think? You know? And that's the whole thing.
<v Speaker 1>Is I put out one this morning. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>if you saw it, but what it is is one. Uh.
<v Speaker 1>It was from one of our videos called dream Weaver
<v Speaker 1>and another researcher in Cottage Grove, her name is Anette Smith,
<v Speaker 1>and the Nett pointed out when we first put that out.
<v Speaker 1>She says the bill you need to go into about
<v Speaker 1>the one minute ten mark. There's something there you need
<v Speaker 1>to see, and we think we got photo bombed. So
<v Speaker 1>Stan actually went in and he blew all that up.
<v Speaker 1>It's only a couple of minutes long to video, and
<v Speaker 1>you can definitely see this thing movie. It pops up
<v Speaker 1>from the side of a tree. You can see the
<v Speaker 1>heads and shoulders, you can see it move you can
<v Speaker 1>see movement and and everything. It's like it wasn't something
<v Speaker 1>we were expecting, and but we've been asking for We've
<v Speaker 1>been telling them, Hey, guys, anybody we want a photobombas
<v Speaker 1>that would be cool. You know, it'll go a long
<v Speaker 1>ways to showing that you know, you are real, you know,
<v Speaker 1>And I think we actually got one. So you'll have
<v Speaker 1>to watch that and tell me what you think.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure. Do you think they have any interest
<v Speaker 3>in being proven to exist?
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have no interest in proving they exist.
<v Speaker 1>I already know they do. You know, when I was
<v Speaker 1>face to face, that pretty much submitted what I was
<v Speaker 1>looking at. And even though I didn't believe it, I
<v Speaker 1>had no choice. You know. It's like when you're two
<v Speaker 1>feet away from something that's about nine foot four, it's
<v Speaker 1>four feet across the shoulders, three feet deep in the chest,
<v Speaker 1>and you're looking eye to eye with it. Its eyes
<v Speaker 1>are illuminated, there was no light to illuminate them with.
<v Speaker 1>And it's a series in your mind pretty much guarantees
<v Speaker 1>that you're going to become a believer. Like right now,
<v Speaker 1>there's no incensor. Buts He's like, now you believe it? Now?
<v Speaker 1>Yes I do. Matter of fact, I was terrified, but yes,
<v Speaker 1>I believe it.
<v Speaker 3>Why do you think that one chose to show itself
<v Speaker 3>to you like that?
<v Speaker 1>Well, probably because of the way I am. I'm very
<v Speaker 1>open minded, very calm, you know. You at the time,
<v Speaker 1>you see, you know, fairly high vibing. It's the time,
<v Speaker 1>you know, life changed me for a long this time.
<v Speaker 1>But now I'm getting back up there and building my
<v Speaker 1>own personal frequencies by changing my outlook on things and
<v Speaker 1>the way I look at things. And I think they
<v Speaker 1>understand that. And I think a lot of their stuff
<v Speaker 1>when they want to interact with somebody is way pre planned.
<v Speaker 1>They already know what's going on and when it's going
<v Speaker 1>to happen, and where you're going to be, and you know,
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not by accident. It is all with purpose.
<v Speaker 1>So if folks are having a sighting, do you want
<v Speaker 1>to have a relationship with him? Number One, lose your fear.
<v Speaker 1>Lose your fear and triggering in for curiosity, and don't
<v Speaker 1>be afraid. They've never tried to hurt me. You hear
<v Speaker 1>all these horror stories, but you kind of realize people
<v Speaker 1>are explaining things from their own perception and their own fears.
<v Speaker 1>I have no fear. The only fear I ever had
<v Speaker 1>was the Sasquatch. I used to be afraid of heights
<v Speaker 1>and different things, and I faced them. I learned a
<v Speaker 1>long time ago. I've read a lot of psychology growing up,
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, you need to face your fears. We
<v Speaker 1>make them up. We make up our own fears. That's
<v Speaker 1>why everybody has different fears because you made it up.
<v Speaker 1>Something happened along the line in your life, or you've
<v Speaker 1>got an example from somebody else that caused you to
<v Speaker 1>fear something like oh spiders, Oh no, you know they're
<v Speaker 1>gonna eat me. No, I catch them up and let
<v Speaker 1>them go outside, you know. So you know, I'm a
<v Speaker 1>lot closer to nature than a lot of people are.
<v Speaker 1>As well, you know, some people are couch surfers. They
<v Speaker 1>live in the city and they never get themselves off
<v Speaker 1>the couch and out in the woods, you know. So
<v Speaker 1>and those are the ones the trolls that we get,
<v Speaker 1>you know, that are calling bs on us because you know,
<v Speaker 1>they don't believe in anything. And there's these people that
<v Speaker 1>i spent my entire life in the woods and I've
<v Speaker 1>never seen anything. Well, you know, first of all, maybe
<v Speaker 1>they don't like you, you know, yeah, you know, you
<v Speaker 1>know they have to. They choose you, you don't choose him.
<v Speaker 1>I never thought I'd be doing this at this point
<v Speaker 1>in my life. Ever, this was not on my radar
<v Speaker 1>whatsoever at all. Sam too, Sand's whole life has changed.
<v Speaker 1>That poor guy Kay has come a long ways in
<v Speaker 1>a short period of time. I've taught him well, and
<v Speaker 1>he's one hell of an asset because he used to
<v Speaker 1>do you know, investigations for you know, the Sheriff's department,
<v Speaker 1>and he's very stup, very observant and just amazing.
<v Speaker 3>Well, tell everybody where they can find your stuff. I'm
<v Speaker 3>sure the listeners are going to want to check out
<v Speaker 3>these videos. You've got some amazing track way evidence posted
<v Speaker 3>on your Facebook page that I was looking over. I'm
<v Speaker 3>particularly fond of the tracks, and I guess we're stalking
<v Speaker 3>a goose.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, I looked up what type of bird? And
<v Speaker 1>everybody's going, well, you know, I'm like, well, what large birds?
<v Speaker 1>Was a print this size? It never mentioned Canadian geese.
<v Speaker 1>It said it could have been an egret, It could
<v Speaker 1>have been a heroine. It could have been a wild turkey,
<v Speaker 1>you know, a very large wild turkey. But we were
<v Speaker 1>there a few weeks ago and we actually found another trackway,
<v Speaker 1>which that'll be up here whenever Stan gets to it.
<v Speaker 1>And that one was a fifty two inch step, fifty
<v Speaker 1>four inch step, fifty four inch step, and we tried
<v Speaker 1>to step it, step it off to see if we
<v Speaker 1>could do it. I was first one to do it.
<v Speaker 1>He filmed it, and I can't do it now. If
<v Speaker 1>I was running, that would be a different thing. But
<v Speaker 1>it was actually a another researcher friend of mine, Mark Gould,
<v Speaker 1>who used to live here in Salem, but he's moved
<v Speaker 1>back to I say, Arkansas. He's not that far from Todd.
<v Speaker 1>Todd d and uh he said, uh, you know, Bill,
<v Speaker 1>I saw that video and it looks like they're stalking
<v Speaker 1>the bird. I'm like, well that makes sense, you know.
<v Speaker 1>And and so we were out a few weeks ago,
<v Speaker 1>Sat and I and uh we were down there. We
<v Speaker 1>found that one track way, but there was some geese
<v Speaker 1>down there, and uh so I'm looking at fresh tracks
<v Speaker 1>from the geese because we kind of chased them off
<v Speaker 1>a little bit because we were looking for tracks. And uh,
<v Speaker 1>I looked down at the footprint the foot and I
<v Speaker 1>went and I measured it, and that's it. He's like
<v Speaker 1>what I said, they were tracking a goose. The goose
<v Speaker 1>makes an imprint just like that. And I said, there
<v Speaker 1>it is right there, that's the same exact imprint, and
<v Speaker 1>so we had ascertaining it. Well, that's it's likely that
<v Speaker 1>they were stalking a goose. Well, you know, we like
<v Speaker 1>to eat goose. They are cuite cristy. So and that's
<v Speaker 1>what it looks like is they were they were probably
<v Speaker 1>stocking a goose, because just after that we're the tracks disappear,
<v Speaker 1>which the goose was probably flying off or you know,
<v Speaker 1>started to leave the ground, and a lot of the
<v Speaker 1>cast we have a lot of toe slips from them,
<v Speaker 1>you know, running or accelerating to maybe running catch the thing.
<v Speaker 1>You know, so it was probably starting to take flight
<v Speaker 1>when the tracks of the goose disappeared. But their tracks
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden you could see all the toe
<v Speaker 1>slips and everything that was happening. Is they're they're going
<v Speaker 1>after it. So it made sense to us to you know,
<v Speaker 1>looking at things and putting it all together, that that's
<v Speaker 1>probably what happened. So it was really interesting. But as
<v Speaker 1>far as finding me, folks on Facebook, just go to
<v Speaker 1>the Sasquatch Puzzle, uh, like and follow. We appreciate it
<v Speaker 1>because we don't charge anybody for our site, our video
<v Speaker 1>or anything else. What we're trying to do is get
<v Speaker 1>up enough people that are on our sites to where
<v Speaker 1>Facebook will pass and YouTube will pass, you know, once
<v Speaker 1>we get up to a certain membership and stuff, and
<v Speaker 1>all you got to do is like and subscribe on
<v Speaker 1>the YouTube channel the same name, the Sasquatch Puzzle. There's
<v Speaker 1>not a lot of videos there because we're just like
<v Speaker 1>I said, we're just getting started with This is actually
<v Speaker 1>a new site and we're just starting from Winstan and
<v Speaker 1>I got together and started this whole thing. So I
<v Speaker 1>never thought I'd be taking on a partner, you know,
<v Speaker 1>But when they liked him, so much that he had
<v Speaker 1>poor sightings in two days. And all the things that
<v Speaker 1>he and I found that were in my own area
<v Speaker 1>that I've been going to for five years and I
<v Speaker 1>never found him. Yeah, and he started spotting all these
<v Speaker 1>things because I taught him very well. He was a
<v Speaker 1>past study, very quick study, and he started seeing all
<v Speaker 1>these things and go, wait, wait, Rakes. You know, some
<v Speaker 1>days we get up there and we go fifty feet
<v Speaker 1>and we found something else. Then we go one hundred yards,
<v Speaker 1>we find something else. You're another fifty feet something else.
<v Speaker 1>And it was just saying after thing after thing, and
<v Speaker 1>it was just incredible. But yeah, the sasquatch puzzle. And
<v Speaker 1>the reason, like I said, I named it is because
<v Speaker 1>we all have a piece of that puzzle. And the
<v Speaker 1>coolest thing is is if we all start to share
<v Speaker 1>and talk with each other about all these things, we
<v Speaker 1>get a bigger picture, you know, because everybody has a
<v Speaker 1>different experience. I think they choose people for different missions
<v Speaker 1>to do things. And part of mine is debunking that
<v Speaker 1>they're monsters. They're not monsters, you know. They think that, oh,
<v Speaker 1>you know, the males wander and they gather somewhere for
<v Speaker 1>breeding season, all what a bunch of bs as far
<v Speaker 1>as I can tell, the ones that I have interacted with,
<v Speaker 1>and I've interacted with five different clans now of Sasquatch,
<v Speaker 1>and but the ones that I mainly go or the
<v Speaker 1>family unit that I study up in the jew area,
<v Speaker 1>and as far as I can tell, they're monogamous. They
<v Speaker 1>stay together. He was the same lady Sasquatch. And you
<v Speaker 1>know the coolest part is she looks like Patty. Oh wow.
<v Speaker 1>And the whole thing is is as far as from
<v Speaker 1>there to Bluff Creek is only around one hundred miles
<v Speaker 1>as the crow flies, so it's a good possibility she
<v Speaker 1>could be related to Patty. That would be something maybe
<v Speaker 1>one of her daughters or her granddaughter. I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>You know, I didn't ask her age. And you know
<v Speaker 1>you've got yeah that's it. Oh yeah, Or you're in trouble,
<v Speaker 1>pack your bag, you camping with the dog. But yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I've had some amazing experiences this year. This last year
<v Speaker 1>has just been totally off the hook. I got one
<v Speaker 1>trackway this on there which I had the prints here
<v Speaker 1>from Blue River, Oregon up in the Lamba National Person.
<v Speaker 1>That's because of the the researcher Annett smith A Nette
<v Speaker 1>had a siding there of two juveniles, and she wrote
<v Speaker 1>me right away when she came back. They were up
<v Speaker 1>there camping with family, and she posted or sent me
<v Speaker 1>several pictures of footprints as well as tree structures, and
<v Speaker 1>then just told me her story. So I went up
<v Speaker 1>there to go investigate it because I used to live
<v Speaker 1>in Springfield, which is, you know, about fifty miles away
<v Speaker 1>from Blue River. And I went up there to go
<v Speaker 1>do this on my own just after it was like
<v Speaker 1>two days after she contacted me and said she just
<v Speaker 1>had the siding up there. So I went up to
<v Speaker 1>kind of corroborate the siding, but I never asked her
<v Speaker 1>where it was exactly. I know where it is now
<v Speaker 1>after the fact. But I thought, well, I know all
<v Speaker 1>the spots up there. I've been going up there for
<v Speaker 1>thirty years, you know, because I lived in the Springfield
<v Speaker 1>Eugene area for a long time. But so I went
<v Speaker 1>up there on my own. The first place I explored
<v Speaker 1>up there, I was hearing what I described as mouth pops.
<v Speaker 1>So there was a juvenile or maybe it could have
<v Speaker 1>been adult. I don't know, but you know, I'm assuming
<v Speaker 1>it was a juvenile because all the tracks. I found
<v Speaker 1>them were juvenile and three different sizes, the same as
<v Speaker 1>up here at the applegate. And I found trackaway probably
<v Speaker 1>over one hundred prince and I casted probably about fifteen
<v Speaker 1>of them. I left several behind because all of a
<v Speaker 1>sudden a thunderstorm opened up on me. I was trying
<v Speaker 1>to get up there before the thunderstorm started, and you know,
<v Speaker 1>so if I found anything, I could cast them with stuff.
<v Speaker 1>And at the last spot, I'm at the backside of
<v Speaker 1>a coffer dam and I just said, well, you know, wow,
<v Speaker 1>when I pulled up there the first time, I looked
<v Speaker 1>down and go, man, that water's way down there, and
<v Speaker 1>it's down a boat launch, which you know, they're pretty
<v Speaker 1>darn steep, and I'm like, do I really want to
<v Speaker 1>go down there and go look around? And uh, well,
<v Speaker 1>I went up the road and I was looking for,
<v Speaker 1>you know, any other spots. It's like, man, that's the
<v Speaker 1>one logical place you know that I could find those,
<v Speaker 1>aside from a campground there, which was closed, you know,
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't want to kind of break into That's
<v Speaker 1>where in that Hatter sighting was that campground, you come
<v Speaker 1>to find out? You know, So I was gonna just
<v Speaker 1>point I'd gone way down the road and turned around
<v Speaker 1>and came back up and went back up to this
<v Speaker 1>backside there, which is where me and my buddies used
<v Speaker 1>to always put the boat in, and we I got
<v Speaker 1>thousands of fish out of that place. But I said, okay,
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking down there, going that's a long ways down there. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do it. So I go hiking down
<v Speaker 1>this thing, and it's like a quarter mile or more
<v Speaker 1>down actually, it's probably closer to a half mile down
<v Speaker 1>down the flats way below the launch area. And I said, okay,
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to take a run down there and go
<v Speaker 1>look around. And as soon as I got off launch
<v Speaker 1>started watering down to the first flat. I started as
<v Speaker 1>I found the footprints, and I found a lot of footprints.
<v Speaker 1>I found the trackways there, and then I was measuring
<v Speaker 1>away and I was like, well, I got three different
<v Speaker 1>sasquatches here, and they're all juveniles, and uh so I'm like, okay,
<v Speaker 1>now I got to walk all the way back up
<v Speaker 1>the hill, go get my casting supplies, then drag them
<v Speaker 1>all the way back down here, which I did, you know,
<v Speaker 1>as quickly as I could, because I know these storms
<v Speaker 1>are coming in and I've got to get this done
<v Speaker 1>before I get out of there. And uh, most of
<v Speaker 1>the casts because they, you know, I couldn't wait long
<v Speaker 1>enough because the storm was hitting. I broke. But I
<v Speaker 1>put them all back together, and most actually most of them,
<v Speaker 1>you can't tell them I broke them. I did a
<v Speaker 1>heck of a job of putting them back together, I'll
<v Speaker 1>tell you. But yeah, with the first crack of thunder
<v Speaker 1>that I actually felt in my chest, I knew it
<v Speaker 1>was time to get out of there, because I was
<v Speaker 1>the tallest thing out there.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's time to go at that point.
<v Speaker 1>So I was a little stressed and nervous and in
<v Speaker 1>a hurry. So I left about five or six prints behind.
<v Speaker 1>You know, I didn't wait, you know, for this thing
<v Speaker 1>to blow over anything else because they were still soft.
<v Speaker 1>They were soft to the touch, and I'm like, man,
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm just going to have to deal with
<v Speaker 1>what I got and sacrifice those and get myself out
<v Speaker 1>of here. You know, this is two hundred and fifty
<v Speaker 1>miles from my house, you know, for me to drive
<v Speaker 1>all the way up there from where I currently live
<v Speaker 1>in Medford. But yeah, it's like I got a beat,
<v Speaker 1>beat get myself out of here. But there was I
<v Speaker 1>counted over over one hundred prints in that trackway, a
<v Speaker 1>three individual, three juveniles, and that's where it started. And
<v Speaker 1>now I keep finding juvenile trackways. I have found in
<v Speaker 1>the past year six trackways, all juveniles, every one of them.
<v Speaker 1>We've found a few adult prints mixed in here and there,
<v Speaker 1>but they were washed out or you know, you could
<v Speaker 1>just see that this is an adult print. You know,
<v Speaker 1>we measure them and everything go, yeah, well that's an adult,
<v Speaker 1>you know, or you know, a young adult by the
<v Speaker 1>size and everything, and it's like, okay. Unfortunately, when I
<v Speaker 1>found the trackway at oh, you've heard of the big
<v Speaker 1>Foot Trap, right, yeah, for sure, Okay, well this is
<v Speaker 1>less than a mile from the big Foot Trap. Oh yes,
<v Speaker 1>that Applegate Lake. But yeah, it's been an insane year.
<v Speaker 1>You know. I found the ones at Blue River, then
<v Speaker 1>see my juvenile at oak Ridge. Then been through Rogue
<v Speaker 1>River National Forest, fine prints there Red Views Wilderness, which
<v Speaker 1>is near Applegate Lake. That's the backside headed towards California.
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm only from there. I'm only you know, about
<v Speaker 1>fifteen miles from the California and the Pacific Coast Trail
<v Speaker 1>it's the road that I was going on up there
<v Speaker 1>with some of the finds I found up there actually
<v Speaker 1>is a drop off and pickup point for the Pacific
<v Speaker 1>Coast Trail, oh Wow, Rogue River National Forests, the Waima
<v Speaker 1>National Forest, Crater Lake National Park, plying evidence a Skylakes
<v Speaker 1>Wilderness excuse me, which is the backside of Crater Lake.
<v Speaker 1>If anybody knows, it's actually called Mount Masama is its
<v Speaker 1>proper name. But you know the lake they called Crater Lakes,
<v Speaker 1>so everybody knows it from by that of course, Rover
<v Speaker 1>National Holders and the Taie Unit in Douglas County, which
<v Speaker 1>is where Stand lives. As a matter of fact, my
<v Speaker 1>last sighting, which was my eleventh siding, I was spending
<v Speaker 1>the United Stands. We'd just done some filming that that
<v Speaker 1>previous day, and I was up at five am and
<v Speaker 1>I had to go. So I was camping in my
<v Speaker 1>vand and I stepped out and uh to get a
<v Speaker 1>little relief, And I look up across the backside of
<v Speaker 1>his property. There's a road back and then the neighbor's
<v Speaker 1>place on the other side of the road, and I'm
<v Speaker 1>looking in the neighbor's yard and there's a sasquatch watching me.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you mind, it's kind of a private moment.
<v Speaker 1>And so there was my eleven siding right there at
<v Speaker 1>stands place. He's got footprints that they leave in his
<v Speaker 1>yard almost daily. It's just been something for him. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>he's he just he still knew it just but he's
<v Speaker 1>still just amazed at everything that happens from day to day.
<v Speaker 1>And he says, you know, I got I got two choices,
<v Speaker 1>either run away from this and let it go, or
<v Speaker 1>embrace it. And he chose to embrace it. And it's
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the history.
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