2026 NFL Draft Winners and Losers

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Speaker 1: It's a tough sports not for everybody. You gotta be a little sick to love this game, and we got some sickos.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're getting used to loving the Cleveland Browns Draft. I'm Greg Rosenthal. I'm here in my garage. The draft is over.

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Speaker 3: Day three was fun.

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Speaker 2: If you wanted live coverage of it, you could have listened to Ali Connolly on the Read Optional live stream Slash podcast. He was taping into the middle of the night all three days of the podcast.

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Speaker 3: How are you recovering right now?

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Speaker 4: Ali?

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Speaker 5: Now, I got some sleep last night with struggling those first couple of days. I'm preparing myself for a wonderful trip to Paris. By the time people listen to this, I will be full of cheese and wine. And nothing gets me fight up like the idea of Tolkien prospects and dousing myself and cheese and wine.

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Speaker 3: So I love the thought of all that.

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Speaker 2: I also I do feel uncomfortable with liking what Andrew Berry did. We'll get to the Browns. We got a lot to get to how I wanted to do it. We're doing it winters and losers style. What we liked about the draft, what we didn't, but just to have some fun. I gave a ton of categories to Ali to come up with answers for in and I came up with the answers myself. So in the winners category, we'll start there. Let's just let's think about it from the player perspective. Let's start with some best landing spots possible.

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Speaker 3: For players, and I've got more than one.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm sure you could go long on this one too, but I'll start towards the top with just man towards Delaane, like the fact that Steve Spagnolo loved him so much that they went and traded up for him and kept mentioning Brett Veach did on the phone call with Delayne that like, man, we love you such like we had to go get you now might have been a situation listening to his conversation, you know, conversation with the media that they I think they really loved Tate and Delaye. They wanted to make sure they got one of those two guys. But man, a cornerback that talented who I know you were really high on Ali in Steve Spagnolo's system just seems like it's gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gonna be wonderful.

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Speaker 5: I think bringing in a guy who was as comfortable up in bump and run coverage, you can playoff as all the instincts in the world, I think it can be a pretty active blitzer for them too. If he goes in place in the slots, has complete versatility playing outside, playing inside is going to be I think more of a shadow player than he is going to be a true playmaker for them. But he I think will fit into all the versatility that Steve Spagnoller wants to do. And they've not had even when they've had really good corners or they've had really good years, whether it was Snead, whether it was McDuffie, I think they've had anyone quite of the caliber of talent of mansor Delaine. So in the spot they were in to be able to move into the upper echelons of the draft and go in ID one, the guy so I think can be one of the four or five best players from the draft over the next six seven years is pretty damn good.

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Speaker 2: They also have a Loie Gilman back there they have Cater Kohu. It's a totally remixed secondary.

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Speaker 3: But I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: That's a bold statement considering Trent McDuffie made an All Pro team. But I agree just in terms of pure talent, like they haven't had anyone like that. They also had our Mason Thomas, the pass rusher in the second round. But we're sticking with like the best fits for players who stands out to you of just like a.

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Speaker 3: Player that ended up like in a perfect spot for that.

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Speaker 5: This one's a slight cheat, but it would be Ruben Baine, Josiah Trotter, and County Scott together as a trio in Top Bowls a system. Everything those guys do is about playing downhill. Everything Top Bowles asked you to do is about playing downhill. I have some reservations, but when we've got a turn and running coverage, particularly for Josiah Trotter, but Kiante Scott was the best blitzing defensive back in the draft. Him and Ruben Bain together. The interplay of how they got after people in the blitz game at Miami, there is all sorts of nuance and subtlety to the mechanics of the blitz game. It's a little two man dance between the guy on the first level the guy who's coming behind him. Those two have such an innate feeling understanding together to be able to keep them on the same team, to be able to maximize Scott, who is still a somewhat limited play despite all the fun of weaponizing him as a blitzer. Being able to get ruben Bain with the fifteenth overall pick and keep those guys together while stacking Josiah Trotter a on top of it, I think is just pretty remarkable to come away with all three.

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Speaker 2: You're a linebacker scout by trade, you have like these, you know, multiple thousand word reviews of all the linebackers on your substack in this class. I mean you have other positions grated, but not the same. What did you think about Trotter? Because you know, I see my guy CJ. Allen on the board. I think he could be an answer for this question too. I mean, he landed in a great spot with lou An Rumo and the Colts. But what do you think about Trotter? Made them take him over over CJ. Allen or just thinking it's like a great fit.

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Speaker 5: Trotta is in the politest way. In absolute Maniac, he only wants to fire downhill. He triggers on the first thing he sees. He blessed people up at the point of attack. You can go and find plays with him where a running back is selled in perfect past pro posture, and he will just dive over the running back to go and get the quote bakes O, the guy's trying to take him out the knees, I was trying to dive or trying to cut him or anything. He will just leap over a running back to try and make could play. He is pretty frenetic. He struggles to find the ball when he just stands off the ball. But in a point and shoot system where it's just firing downhill from depth over and over again. Predesigned rumblants using him in the passing game. That is where he's at his best. He could be a little all over the place, a little chaotic and coverage, but the way the book sat up defensively, they kind of used to this style of player. They used to building game. We'll have our safeties protect some of that space. So I just in another spot. If he played for a Fanjo style defense, but there's a lot of reading and reacting and seeing it and playing it out. I would be nervous that the instincts would maybe catch up with him at the next level, but in that kind of situation where he can just play downhill relentlessly, it's pretty exciting.

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Speaker 2: I love that call, and I love like thinking about also when you talked about Baine and Kante Scott, like the marriage of an edge and a safety, which you don't normally think of. It hurts seeing Kiante Scott Scott fall so far to the fourth round.

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Speaker 3: The fact that he did fall so far.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's not locked into a big role certainly, but I really liked watching him. Tike Smith and him is an interesting kind of combination back there, and I love what Todd Bowles did in general.

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Speaker 3: I think they had a great day.

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Speaker 2: They were one of my answers for a category will do in a second Just teams I feel differently about because you could you could throw ted Hurst, the wide receiver from Georgia State, into their fun draft, and I do think this team found guys that can help them right away, and for ted Hurst it might be like just running twenty routes a game and keeping defenses honest, going over the top, and maybe he has a better version of Kyle Williams's rookie season for the Patriots, which was like, well he only caught this many balls, but like every other one that he did, cap was a long touchdown and helped out the team.

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Speaker 3: So I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I love what the Bucks did for the landing spot question too, Ty Simpson, for him landing in a perfect spot. We'll talk about the Rams a little later in Losers. I think at least I'm going to Hakeei Messidor. I think was a great fit for him, just getting to learn under Khalil Mack.

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Speaker 3: He'll be part of a rotation. I just like that fit there.

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Speaker 2: And then mark al Bell if you're a developmental tackle, he was the tackle that the Eagles took in the third round. Just a big, you know size, really tall, like you know, physical marvel that you want to land with the Eagles. That's a perfect spot for him to potentially turn into the best version of himself.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, potentially the future right tackle when Lane Johnson inevitably retires. He is a ridiculous athlete for his size six', Nine he's got really quick feet for being that. Big it's just the technical. Refinement he really does just rely on being bigger than everyone he could ever faced in college, football and guys can sink underneath him naturally cut just because of the ship's. Size it's just hard for him to sink down and keep smaller guys off his frame. Book as you, said in terms of like developmental factories for, Alignement i'm sure every developmental tackle in the draft was, like just get meet The. PHILADELPHIA i don't have to be thrown out there In week three of the season AND i can kind of loan on my trade over.

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Speaker 2: Time Anthony, hill the line that fell to The, titans What layton round, two the linebackers really did go off the. Board he's another one that like kind of felt like a boom or bust prospect that might not work, Out but Then Robert sala and The titans draft, him and you're, like, well that could be the. Boom, like if he likes, him he's probably gonna make that.

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Speaker 5: WORK i like that for him BECAUSE i do see him as more of a coverage style linebacker than me and a guy who wants to play. Downhill he's got an interesting profile in the sense that when he's allowed. To when he's point and shot downhill by, design so when it's a blitz or when he can just see it. Quickly in the run, game he really brings full throttle down to the line of. Scrimmage but when it's read and, REACT i thought he asked out of too many. PLAYS i wasn't sure he was always up for the. Fight for a guy who has the, size speed profile to have been the second or third linebacker taken in the. Draft he has unbelievably light feet for someone as big and as tall as he. Is but playing off the ball deep in zone, coverage just the long arms that that is What Robert Sala craves, is just clog up the passing, lanes run around rally from. Depth, so as you, said Whenever robert sella id's a day, deal a day three, linebacker they usually turned out to be at least capable stats and then it just depends on what the upside is from THE.

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Speaker 2: I know enough though about you now at this, point if you're saying a guy's not up for the, fight that's the nicest way of saying you're you're not into. Them it's like WHEN dj has the best, characteristics and it's, like like, worker you, know it's like, OKAY i mean that's DJ's.

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Speaker 5: Tell is when on the broadcast they only Show Senior bowl film because it's the only positive film you could find of a. Player you couldn't find it in the game.

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Speaker 2: FILM i Promise i'm not going to give five answers for every question or else we'll be here all. Day so The bucks would have been my one of my answers for a team THAT i feel differently about after the, draft at least in a complimentary. Way give, me give me one team that stands out to you that you think you legitimately look at them in twenty twenty six and think, Like, OKAY i feel a little.

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Speaker 6: Differently there's two that really stand.

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Speaker 5: Though one is The raiders, OBVIOUSLY i mean they would have finally found a potential long ten months or quote. Back but beyond, THAT i thought being able to pick Up trade And stukes And dalton and the two safeties From arizona was really good. VALUE i Love Kyron, crawford the edge, defender kind of mugged up, linebacker can play all over the, front and this is going to be a really attack based defense next. Season it's going to be a ton of blitzing a ton of mugged up. PLAYERS i just Thought crawford was a better player in college Than Keldric. Folk he's got more, juice he's got more, versatility he can play all over the, formation he can drop out into. Coverage SO i think in that, System crawford has a chance to be a really impactful rotational player as a. Rookie AND i like them picking up another lineman In Trey. Zoon he can play all five spots along the Old lion to just try to get the five best out there over the course of this, season and they're able to Steal jamaal. McCoy and INITIALLY i thought when mon baccoy started sliding because of all The nie, stuff and the conversation, was, well can he make it to a second? Contract can you play on the second contract where you have to miss a? SEASON i, thought, well one of the contenders should go do, it because it makes a ton of, sense like why not take the swing on a guy you'd never normally have access to in the. Draft but the More i've thought about, IT i love it for the raid as being like we're at the start of the rebuild this guy based on the injury concaid he may never play football again in two, seasons in eighteen, months whatever it. Is but if he does, play we just got a guy who for some teams was the number one cornerback in the, class just based purely on the. Film and so why not go and take the swing move up trade up to go to the top of the fourth round and have a chance to take a. Play we just normally wouldn't be able to get.

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Speaker 2: Some of the cornerbacks that went in round. Three it's one thing if you're taking a different position or even some of the tight. Ends we'll get to. That it just it just seemed crazy in this draft WHERE i, thought once you got to round three in this, draft it it wasn't as. Spie it wasn't that at spicy to not to take a chance earlier on. McCoy and The raiders didn't, either to be, fair you, know they took a couple third round picks before they even took. McCoy but, man the ceiling on that pick is. Awesome, yeah maybe maybe that's not a great.

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Speaker 3: Answer The. RAIDERS i had them as like my under the, radar great great.

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Speaker 2: Team it's more that we haven't talked McCoy on this show, Yet and, yeah to pair him with the with the rest of the, class which is a little more block and. TACKLE i think trade And stukes the. Safety they're certainly risks. There but they also brought In Ron, johnson so it'll be, interesting like how those two kind of mix in the back and they are a completely different roster right.

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Speaker 3: Now john Spy.

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Speaker 2: Tech HE i don't know if he's, back but if this gets to, be this is, like if they do, well gonna be written about, like, oh this was actually Spy tech's first, Draft like, yes years.

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Speaker 5: Like we don't talk about the pick heroll, here AND i liked. It they announced Trading stukes as a. SAFETY i know a lot of people saw him as kind of nickel hybrid. PLAYER i thought he was pretty sloppy playing in that. Role but he's at his best attacking the ball in the, Air so you move him further back off the, ball you let him just kind of roam around there on the back. SIDE i just think that's a better fit for, him and with them already having someone who can go and play in that nickel role for them down and down, now it makes sense to me that you would move him further off off the. BALL i liked him the. Close so we got to the. DRAFT i just didn't get there where there was some first round buzz BECAUSE i just don't think in that hybrid koop a dejen style, role he really has the, tenacity all the feel for playing close to the, box and.

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Speaker 3: They just needed players back. THERE i, mean, McCoy it's great you got a. Corner they Have Jeremy chin And Polo mao.

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Speaker 2: Who played pretty well last, year but that's a nice or at least an improved safety.

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Speaker 3: Group was your other? Choice The.

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Speaker 5: Cowboys The, COWBOYS i just adure everything they, did so it's almost like, sneaky, Right it's.

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Speaker 2: Not, sneaky but the. TEAM i do feel differently about them after this. Draft for this, YEAR i already was probably gonna be higher than consensus on The, cowboys just BECAUSE i feel LIKE i bet on offense in, general AND i just felt like that would like the defense was bound to. Improve and then to Get Caleb, downs who just feels like a perfect, mature like an, adult even though he's a, rookie got to have SUCH i think a big responsibility in turning that entire secondary Around Malachi lawrence add some juice at a position where they they needed a little more.

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Speaker 3: Juice they're not, AWFUL i would.

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Speaker 2: Say and then you're a big fan Of, barsham who they announced as as a, linebacker AND i think that was interesting because he played edge in his last year at, college but they announced him and they even said in their press conference they're going to start him out at inside. Linebackers so he's either going to be next to De Marvin overshown or just kind of replacing To Marvin. Overshown we've got a report On sunday That overshown's changing agents To David, mullageta who is the thorn in The cowboys. Side SO i Love, overshown but he's been hurt a. Lot either, way that was a position that they. Needed you put downs next To Jalen. Thompson you have a new coordinator In Christian. Parker it's just a team that, Like, OKAY i can see more of a vision of the defense being competitive right away and the. OFFENSE i have no reason to think that it's not going to be.

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Speaker 3: Good, YEAH i agree with.

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Speaker 5: YOU i mean, Downs lawrence And boham with free plays in my top thirty, Five downs is The. No one overall player in my Bull lawrence was the the top edge on my, Board so they really got unreal value based on HOW i saw it With. Bartom they said that they saw him in That Zach borne role of playing some off the, ball playing some on the, edge move them around when they're trying to blitz or get after. People Christian parker comes over From, philadelphia so In downs you have a little bit of A Cooper degene type. Company he's gonna play close to the, box play close to the line of. Scrimmage he'll bring some natural disguise which they're always chasing in That philadelphia system because it's they roll and rotate a lot on the back, end but.

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Speaker 6: It's not a huge disguise based.

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Speaker 5: Team the disguise comes like artificially by just having a play who can play in a bunch of different, spots so you're not quite sure where he's going to. Be And downs has Some buddha baker to his game, too so you can get a little bit, exotic a little bit creative with some of the. Firepower and Then Malachi lawrence you mentioned. IT i truly do think that in three four. Years that's the one people will look back on and, go why did we overthink the, size the, bend the, burst the, technique the understanding of how to take on, blockers purely because he was at a smaller, school didn't have as many rush opportunities as other. People it's, like if you just go through all the pass rush opportunities, anyway you see everything you want to see in A b tier TO b plus tier pass rusher in the, league and then he's an unbelievable player chasing down so against, scramblers if he has to be a pseudo spy on the, edge he just fits the mold of what those get off ben burst pass rushes are like in the. League SO i think they found three Starters. Baham it might take a little bit more time finding in the, role but getting those three together and then adding it on the back. END Lt overton is a rotational interior player taking a flyer On Devin, moore who we talked about in The corner, podcast is this, long, tall boundary corner who's just been decimated by injuries throughout his, career but when he's out, there he's got incredible ball. Skills there's all the length in the world to play some pressman. Corner so to just take those fliers in the back end of the draft when you've already kind of settled players who can be difference makers for, YOU i think it's about as well as you can run a.

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Speaker 2: Draft, yeah it's wild to Me Malachi LaRence ends up getting taken higher than Ez. IRAKU i thought Of asako whole last season as a first round. Pick he, was and he was a high, too and he's a player TOO i think could develop. WELL i think he showed enough as a. Rookie and it reminds me a little bit of lieout To, latu a guy who just does a lot and maybe it just takes them a little. LONGER i always think of it like a like a tennis player who can do. Everything they always mature slower because it takes a while for them to kind of figure out when to use. What And EZRAKU i think is gonna get, better Like latu has and De winters is also part of that linebacker group who was the other team then you felt differently about you had a different.

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Speaker 5: One The, Commanders AND i was unshure all the way through the off. Season IF i was gonna buy the belief That Deronte jones was really going to be allowed to run the defense he wanted to In. Washington and WHAT i like about taking sunny styles in the first round Then Joshua joseph's in the third round is it kind of gives Dan quinn the opportunity to Let Deronte jones have a go with the all attack. Defense but there's such great scheme fits for his traditional style. Too if he have, inevitably WHICH i think he, will pulls the ripcord and, says let's get away from this fancy new young guy. Stuff let's go back to some Dann quinn. Football they can kind of change whole cloth in the middle of the season and still have ideal scheme, fits or ideally blend and fuse the two styles together in a way where you don't quite know what's coming down to down which is where you know you get to The seahawks or someone like, That which is the best place you can be.

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Speaker 2: IN i, mean that sounds, great but you, know if he's pulling a rip, chord, like they don't have that much rope to be pulling rip. Chords we can't get to two and five if you're Dan. QUID i mean maybe you. Can you're not gonna get fired mid, season but you can't survive an entire season of his defense not.

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Speaker 5: WORKING i agree with, that but if you look at just The rusta, now they went from being so, old so slow tight in terms of. IDEAS i THOUGHT i thought Dan, quinn which is completely out of, ideas was chasing his tail every single. Week they are so explosive, now now are they? Good do they have a ton of like really one on one? Winners i'm not sure that they. Do but The falcons got away with this last. Season let's just put a ton of speed on the. Field let's get after it with all these different players will to cycle through speed over and over and over. Again and then if we want to back off slightly and play a little bit more Don quentin's, style they at least have some gas off the ball at. Front and Then Sunny styles you can roam around a linebacker and just clean things up for.

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Speaker 2: YOU i am so excited to Watch Sunny styles and that group in, general Assuming Frankie lubu stays on that. Team Frankie Lubo Leo chanel With Sonny styles like he've Got Derntey jones does some guys to play, with and they brought in so many. PLAYERS i don't know if that's a risk they had to do. It but they also have by my count eight possibly nine new starters on their defense that they needed.

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Speaker 6: It they will hold them pull you, know.

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Speaker 2: It's like it could be seven If i'm. Counting it, depends but, yeah it's. Outrageous let's let's talk about some negative and this is like a positive way to be negative about the draft because you talked About Kenyan sadik on your, show and that's that's what gave me the idea for this. QUESTION i really liked Watching Kenyan. SADIK i think he was a good value for The jets at. SIXTEEN i think he was a good. Pick they just need, weapons AND i don't hate it over you, Know Makai lemon Or casey conception you own, there especially when they Get Omar Cooper junior, Later, like it all makes sense to. Me and yet For sadiq, himself that's maybe not the best spot for him With Frank reich and The jets, situation and so this category is kind of like a good player and value but maybe not the best fit for the player. Himself what do you think About sadiq there with The. Jets, yeah The sadik fit With Frank right really worries. Me but it's a ton of pressure On Mason taylor as like a twenty one year old second year play it to be a true, impactful like three way tight end where he can, blog he can give you something unders kind of a checkdown. Option then can he kind of stress defense as well enough down the field to Have sadik maybe release. Underneath he's going to have to be a starting caliber player to get to some of the twelfth personnel two tight ten stuff WHERE i Think sidik could. Thrive the one that really panicked me After sadik was K, klubnick because that really indicates to me they want to be THIS rpo based offense That Frank wright ran ten years ago that was. Prehistoric by the time he's booted out the previous go around calling an offense in THE, nfl and he's not going to kind of keep up with where the league is at right.

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Speaker 5: NOW i loved The jets. DRAFT i thought they got tremendous. Value there was a real opportunity COST i think with Taking David bailey over R Vl reese THAT i would argue probably till the end of my career Unless David bailey turned out to Be Nick, benito which he could. Be BUT i thought all the way, through even to the sixth and seventh, round it was about as good as value as you can find from, anyone and it just struck me as they took some electric, players they got really, explosive which they weren't. Before but it will be great for the next step Once Frank wright is out with.

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Speaker 3: Them, yeah that.

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Speaker 2: Is it is a little bit of a, worry And David bailey is very possibly there BECAUSE i don't know why more people didn't connect this pre. Draft Three stanford assistants are on that, staff Including Frank. RANK i know it's an offensive, coach but that was someone who had a lot of knowledge Of David bailey and he makes it. Happen who's the player you think fits into this category good player, value bad.

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Speaker 5: Fit Kaylon black is the one that kind of upset me because we talked about him as one of my sleep of running backs outside of that big crop on the. Consensusport he winds up being the third running backs taken And i'm cheering in my, office, like, oh good For Kaylon. Black then he goes to The, niners where the great strength of his game is he was the best pass pro back in the. League he has some juice between the, tackles but not really top end burst or. Vision, truly it's all about what he gives you in the past pro world to get on the field. Early he reminded me Of. Kalmannungai and he goes to a team where why would he ever be on the. FIELD i must have it passing. Downs why would you Take christy McCaffrey off to Get Caylin black into the.

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Speaker 2: Field, Yeah and they've they've been in a. Slump they take these mid round backs every. Year Brett coleman, wrote you, know sent a tweet, Up so it's in my mind On, sunday mid round running backs Before Kaylin black that they've taken the last five. Years Joe, Williams Trey, Sermon Tyran Davis, Price Isaac, Garrendo Jordan. James none of them have topped five hundred yards in their careers. Yet Joe williams was a wild one back and THEN i was, like is that a real?

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Speaker 3: Person? Yes that happened all? Right let let's talk.

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Speaker 2: Rams I'M i had a category biggest unforced era that that's that's gonna be my pick for it was just the whole press conference. Situation The Ty simpson pick also feels like an unforced air THAT i worry about for THE, rams and we should talk about that, too but just in terms of people that for some reason only consume content by only listening TO nfl. Daily when we last left, off we were talking About sean McVeigh and you, know the first night press conference and how he bungles, that and we were taping during night two and when he has the day too press, conference and so we haven't heard from, him AND i wanted to hear from his. Words he also went ON espn With Pete traeger And Kyle brant kind of walking everything back from him being.

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Speaker 3: Very grouchy after he Took Ty.

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Speaker 2: Simpson let's listen to him on the night of day, two him trying to make.

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Speaker 3: Amends what do you guys? Think AM i angry right? NOW i? WILL i will say this.

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Speaker 1: Though the one thing that would never be doubted, is you, know we couldn't be in more lockstep in every decision that we make for any of the questions or misunderstandings just based on my demeanor disposition last. NIGHT i did want to get that out of the. Way this is my buddy right, here all, Right SO i did that was brought to my attention BECAUSE i got so many. Textion that was never my intended way to be able to come. Off but SOMETIMES i can be a little, grumpy you.

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Speaker 3: Know he also goes on and that was a good way to.

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Speaker 2: Handle it's very convincing when he just Rubs less's THAT i do believe they are buddies THAT i do not doubt for one. MOMENT i do think though it's a working, relationship And sean McVay is the one who wears the pants in that working. Relationship BUT i don't think that's any slight to Less, need who has done an incredible job taking picks after the first round in which might be less needs, domain which is like rounds two and on or three and, on, like he's been. Incredible But sean McVay is the most important person in that. Organization and any suggestion from media members who had all this conspiracy theory that they're making this pick and McVeigh is somehow upset is, Preposterous like you don't Think sean McVay has the biggest voice of taking a quarterback that he's gonna basically pin a big chunk of the next five years of his, career and of course he has the biggest. Say he went on to say To Peter strake And Kyle brandt and later in that press conference, too that his consideration For Matthew stafford and wanting to be respectful To Matthew stafford was really what was behind. That SO i guess he was kind of acting like he was. UPSET i don't EVEN i don't even know it didn't work. Out it was all an unforced error that almost has taken attention Away allie from the unforced era that was the pick. Itself SO i just don't get what happened, here AND i just hope it's not a moment we look back on is when this Little rams era started to go. Downhill if if we don't look back on that fourth quarter against The seahawks in the regular season as that moment.

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Speaker 5: Too that is the logic guy hood right the, way WHEN i ask people over, there like what is going? On this is so, Peculiars, like, Oh sean's doing an acting. Job he doesn't want to Upset matthew Staff it's Like Matthew stafford Knows sean McVay very. Intimately you don't think he can tell when he was.

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Speaker 3: On the phone with. HIM i wonder how that call.

00:26:57
Speaker 2: WHAT i have no, clue But i'm, Sure i'm sure whatever.

00:27:01
Speaker 3: McVeigh was saying publicly is not going to change the. Content, No i'm sorry, no.

00:27:06
Speaker 5: But it does remove some of the some of the concern around just the Pick in. GENERAL i find it just such a baffling choice to. MAKE i Like Ty simpson as a potential solid starter down the. Line could he Become Rock purdy with some development to have to wait on that for two? Years if you sign an extension With Matthew stafford before he, retires why would that be the style of play you would take to go through that development. Arc you do that with someone Like Aaron rodgers where you want to change the throwing. Motion you do that with someone Like Jordan love with a high end upside who just needs to get integrated into a pro style. Setup part of the reason you would Take Ty simpson and maybe rested or sit in for one season or eleven weeks is because he has all the fundamental understandings of what a pro system looks. Like he just doesn't quite play AT nfl speed and maybe needs to add some more body. Armor so to have to wait two three years for a guy without mightily impressive physical tools where you're better on the mental, intellect that's just a confusing profile of. Cool it's about to take this far out, ANYWAY.

00:28:06
Speaker 3: I, agree and just, like why not take it.

00:28:10
Speaker 2: LATER i know you're wanting to think of the future and you're, thinking, well we're not going to be up at thirteen too, often But Ty simpson type prospects will be available at the places that you're taking. Off and, usually Like Ty simpson is not necessarily a guy you have to get into the top fifteen of a draft to. Get he's closer, TO i don't, know like A Mac jones type level of, talent which is like middle of the first round or.

00:28:37
Speaker 3: Whatever AND.

00:28:40
Speaker 2: I just worry, that, LIKE i think distractions get. Overrated but this is a win now type of. Team you Got pooka over, here you got now this. Quarterback you're just inviting all this into your building in a way that feels unnecessary when you could have Had vega Yu wanta just make that offensive line incredible, right like he's sitting right. There you could HAVE i Love casey concepts you and like maybe they didn't see him as as a fit for their. Offense you could have had a different offensive weapon to just add. There you could have Taken Kenyan, sadik who the reports were they were quite enamored, with and they end up taking what might have been a reach at tight end in the second round. Instead SO i just don't get it because it just it just felt like asking asking for a lot of, attention, certainly and it's all gonna be on. Shot it's gonna be like up To sean McVay to make everyone. Wrong AND i don't want that to be the focus Of sean McVay proving that he's smarter than everyone else by making this. Pick AND i don't want to skip over the rest of the. Class we can come back to. THAT i think that is a problem. Too but just On simpson, lastly for that being the guy that, like oh we can't not Take tyson someone never been at thirteen, again he really is more in the mold of A Jared, goff of a Matt. Ryan he doesn't even quite have the arm of those. GUYS i don't think that that can improve in the. League guys who have done that. Before putty did, That Tom brady did.

00:30:07
Speaker 5: That but we just saw with the change From golf To stafford that it puts so many new things on the menu for McVeigh that he's almost like self admitted himself back into The Jared goff world he tried to get out of by trading For matthew Staff AND i just find it peculiar that that is the style of play they would be willing to sit and wait some for two.

00:30:27
Speaker 2: Seasons, yeah maybe some of it's just from my own basic like human angle that it's just from a human perspective With stafford and everything going on with this team just seems like bad.

00:30:39
Speaker 3: Vibes let's talk about the rest of the class.

00:30:41
Speaker 2: Though Max claire and in the second, ROUND i don't know if it was necessarily a reach like where he went and where he was in that tight end, class but for them to just, add you, know yet another tight. End they Ap Terrence, ferguson they Have Davis, allen Obviously Kolbe parkinson like went to another level last, Year Tyler higby is still on this. Roster they Take Keigan trost tackle in the third. ROUND i don't know if you have any thoughts on just like how they approached the rest of the.

00:31:07
Speaker 5: DRAFT i found it utterly. Baffling they're in a Super bowl window where part of the Reason i've got a suspect for taking Ty simpson his contract or not For Matthew, stafford they just don't want to play the.

00:31:18
Speaker 6: Annual is he?

00:31:19
Speaker 3: Retiring is he?

00:31:20
Speaker 6: Not how is the? Back is it?

00:31:21
Speaker 5: Not so from that, STANDPOINT i can understand going for the. Quarterback the rest of the draft class is a move tight end who didn't play an awful lot for a higher state that he was probably better At purdue the season, before a developmental.

00:31:33
Speaker 6: TACKLE.

00:31:34
Speaker 5: Cj, daniels a small vertical wide receiver who creates no separation down the. Field and Then Tim, keaton who actually really like he was excellent in twenty twenty four out Of alabama as a big run stuffing. Nose but the ideal scenario for all of those players is they play zero snaps in the middle of a Super bowl. Window you have the best ross from the, league and you went into a draft or at least came out to the draft with a crop of players where you're really hoping they don't.

00:31:59
Speaker 6: Play.

00:32:00
Speaker 2: Hmm it's a great. Point and look last year's. Draft ferguson didn't have to contribute right. AWAY i love how he moves LIKE i think he could. Contribute Josiah stewart didn't have to play right. Away they really didn't get much production at all out of their entire rookie.

00:32:16
Speaker 3: Class so those guys need to step.

00:32:18
Speaker 2: Up but you also don't want to be going back to back years without getting any contributions for your.

00:32:24
Speaker 3: Rookies it gets thinned.

00:32:25
Speaker 5: Quickly and it's not like they're going to have all the same. Injury, look it's not like they don't have a need to. Tackle they would probably like to improve over. McClendon so there was guys they could have, Brought and you Mentioned, sadik you mentioned McKay. Lemon there's all the stuff going on With puka that they tried to move on From Devonte, adams like they admitted basically publicly that we do feel we've got a need at wide, receiver and so to just not try and find any kind of extra offensive, FIREPOWER i just find very.

00:32:53
Speaker 2: Puzzling it makes me think that they could be active in the. FUTURE i don't know if it'd be a. Trade no one Signed Juwan jennings so, far like there are there are other options late in the off season.

00:33:06
Speaker 3: That would be that would be.

00:33:07
Speaker 5: Fun maybe Maybe Terrence ferguson could be included in a.

00:33:11
Speaker 2: Deal, okay, man that guy walking off a. Bus he reminded me Of Kyle brady back when he was in The. Patriots just impressive. Specimen let's take a. Break we're gonna come. Back we'll get a little more, positive do some more winners and, yes a few losers after.

00:33:26
Speaker 3: The break.

00:33:36
Speaker 2: Back ON Nfl Daily takes so, important we had to do this show on A, sunday get get it out ahead of the work. WEEK i got a category for, You, Alie pick or picks that stirred your football?

00:33:51
Speaker 3: Loins just just what what got you ready? For like this? Thing to get? Going in training, camp it.

00:33:57
Speaker 5: Was Chris brazil to the. Penths interesting him going where he went in the. Draft understandably there's some off the field considerations there, too but he does move differently to everyone, else and it really has got me thinking that The. PANTHERS i went on this long monologue with, YOU i think two years. Ago THEN i did the same monologue a year, ago And i'm going to repeat the. Monologue i'm sorry to the. Audience this, YEAR i think they're starting to come around slightly to my style of thinking of how they're going to build their offense. Out they have assembled a basketball squad of players Around Bryce. Hung it's a bunch of tall, guys and With brazil you get extra, explosiveness you get on common movement, skills and as all the league tries to trend towards we're getting, bigger it's going to be heavier. Personnel two years, ago the most efficient way to find an explosive playing football was either when The bills But Alec anderson on the field as an extra, lineman or it Was brycehung and, empty and the rest of the league tried to copy what The bills. Did we're going to get to thirteen, personnel but an extra tight end on the. Field we're going to start playing with extra eligible. Linemen no one tried to go the other. Way match the volume of empty The panthers were playing, in including The, panthers and if you're trying to offset all the defensive movement pre and post, snap where it's the different, fronts whether it's all the rotations and, disguises whether it's all the blitzer and the. Pressures you've got to try and make the defense be. Static the best way to do that is either by getting to empty or by playing with. Tempo we saw this With Jaden daniels and The commanders in his rookie, season which The commanders have now, said we're. Out we're going to the heaviest of. Ourselves and if you just look at how they've assembled that roster with, McMillan With, coca With, brazil even With Monroe freeling as a really rangy tackle who can play ideally as a left tackle on an island with a really wide extended, POCKET i just get the sense that they may be looking at this going we're gonna have to go down with a ship With Bryce. Young is he special or? Not the best way for us to find out is to put him in the pocket as a point, guard distribute it, around and give him as many options as possible on every single. Snap and that means being a fifteen to eighteen percent empty, offense which is what they were, were by the way when he came back from being benched and actually looked pretty good for the first.

00:36:01
Speaker 2: Time, Yeah i'm excited about that one former two lane Player Chris, Brasel like he gives you a little bit Of Brian Thomas junior vibes just in.

00:36:11
Speaker 3: That.

00:36:11
Speaker 2: Man there just aren't that many people who move quite like. That it's a spot where you know you're talking about them helping to change their. Offense like he was someone that you, Thought, okay he's gonna need a little time to like ease. In and yet The panthers need someone to CONTRIBUTE i think right away because you can't count on it at tight end right. Now you can't count it From Xavier, lagette so they kind of need a third.

00:36:34
Speaker 3: Guy but the ceiling is. There, LIKE i like, that you went excited about.

00:36:39
Speaker 2: THAT i, like basically there was those three third round guys Who i'm just curious to watch their. Career Ted, hurst we already hit with The. Bucks brazl going to The panthers is. Fun and then The dolphins Took Chris bell off the, board right and that was. Bizarre we're just bouncing around. Here but Because Chris, bell who looks like he could have been a first round pick practically if he had been. Healthy he's coming out For torny was taking twenty picks Behind Caleb, douglas WHO i think the seventy fifth overall, pick and that was just a. Surprise what did you think about that? Mix what do you think about The dolphins in? GENERAL i loved The chris.

00:37:17
Speaker 5: MELPICK i mean they found a player who could be somewhere on the continuum BETWEEN Aj brown is the common, comparison but there's also some de bonus after the. Catch if you can just get him the. Ball he's not got immense stop start, QUICKS i would, say and he's not got much crisp boss snap coming out of. Routes but if you can get him on the, drags get him on the, crosses getting running to, GRASS i think he can be an absolute steam train after the, catch and then on along the, sideline can body people, up can bully them. Out the way THAT i found The dolphins raft was a bit peculiar in the sense that we've heard all along about how they want to build through the, trenches and that's the. Mindset it's going to be Very Green bay, centric and you saw that With Kateen, proctor and there's a little bit of that With Jacob rodriguez that he's kind of a lighter tap dancy style. Linebacker you saw it with Will Kez. Merrick but then when you go Through Chris, Johnson Trey, More Chris, Bell Kyle, lewis those are more Space, Cardinals Nick rowlis style. Players then they all were gonna build this, big, imposing two sides of the line of scrimmage type, roster and then we'll start addressing some of the skill. Positions some of the off the bull were down the.

00:38:28
Speaker 2: Line so you mentioned Cousin, merrick which was a late third, pick and that kind of gets us to a different. Category i'll go back to the picks that they got me going in a, second but in, GENERAL i kind of want to talk about what happened with the tight ends because you were talking, About, okay a year ago or a couple of years, ago there's a two way to try to you, know create exposive, plays get big or you, know maybe spread them, out play some, tempo and the league just is getting. Bigger they looked at all the tight end usage that The rams were so effective, with you, know three tight ends on the. Field sometimes The rams take now a fifth tight, End they're gonna keep doubling. Down it was a point a lot of people made after this draft of just like tight end, media we Knew Kenyon sadiq was gonna go. Early Eli stowers as kind of a big receiver to The eagles middle of the second. Round that, was that was pretty much to be. Expected but then it got a little. Wild The jaguars take Bor kercher third off the, board an older prospect who had nineteen catches in the second, round a wild, pick but then it just started a. Run klein From germany goes to The, texans, right that, was he's going to be twenty four when the season. Starts The rams Take Max, claire that's the second. Round The bears In Sam, Rousch Oscar, delp who kind of looks MORE i think like what we normally think of as a promising, prospect with The saints in the third, Round casmerican the third, Round Eli reridan in the third. Round you, know different, values different styles of, players but kind of what do you make about this tight end mania type of draft we just?

00:40:04
Speaker 5: HAD i think it says across the, board the draft wasn't very. Strong this is also if you look back the last two, seasons last two, drafts not just this. One this is the range these guys. Going they're always way lower on the consensus, board and the consensus board typically defaults to the guys Like Eli, stawis the guys Like Justin jolly who winds up going way. Later where it's receivers who are called tight ends in college and just the usage and what is asked of a tight end in college, ball for the most, part doesn't align in any way with what they're asked to do in the. Pro so teams will bet on the guys who can block and have some degree of physical. Gifts and that's why you See Delvi, Goo that's why you see board coach you. Go it's why they'll just, say let's just Take Sam, Rousse let's take As. Maari let's take the best blocking guys in the. Class we at least know who they. Are we can identify the skill. Set everyone's going to be playing more out of twelve or thirteen over the next two or three. Seasons they try to offset all the chaos that's. Happening, defensively if you just look at the best defenses in the, league whether It's denver Or. Seattle the only way to get after these guys is do we trust ourselves in empty?

00:41:05
Speaker 6: Protection do we have A hall Of fame?

00:41:07
Speaker 5: Quarterback or we're gonna have to get big because we've got to make those guys be static and the only way to do it is to get as big as.

00:41:12
Speaker 2: Possible, well, yeah it. DOES i guess you're answering the QUESTION i, had which is, like what's? Next because this is this is how the league trends. Work is, like once everyone starts to get on, trend it's it's sometimes too late already because everyone spent this offseason trying to figure out how to defend.

00:41:29
Speaker 3: That and then we'll see some of these. Picks it's not like.

00:41:33
Speaker 5: That that's where the McVeigh one was interesting with Taking Max claire because he seemed to double down in a. WAY i really thought he would have, said, WELL i did that for one. YEAR i solved the puzzle before everyone. Else i'm gonna head the other. Way it will, probably and that's where The sidiq one is. Interesting where stours THOUGH i do s to see him as a big power slot receiver more than a tight. End you've got to try and get yourself to That patriots twenty eleven model most, likely where you are two tight, ends but it's with. Tempo you're recently a spread, offense but you just have the two tight ends on the. Field that's difficult to. FIND i thought The saints coming out With osca delp is the one that kind of gets me a little bit intrigued That Kellen mole could maybe adopt.

00:42:10
Speaker 6: Some of the old School patriots. STUFF i like.

00:42:13
Speaker 2: That by the, way the, picks they kind of get just my football loins.

00:42:17
Speaker 3: Going we talked our sunny.

00:42:18
Speaker 2: STYLES i feel Like rvel reesea happened so long ago that just no one's talking about it. Anymore but him landing there and them starting him at linebacker makes me.

00:42:29
Speaker 3: EXCITED i, mean they're in.

00:42:30
Speaker 2: Theory there could be better, SITUATIONS i guess than The, giants BUT i like the vision that they have for. Him and Then Dennis allen getting another fun safety In dylan theenam and, LIKE i just love That Dennis allen's living his best life as living he should have never he should have never.

00:42:45
Speaker 3: Become a head. Coach you mentioned The.

00:42:47
Speaker 2: JAGUARS i have a category that's under winners and. Losers that would be more of a. Loser it's like a team that you feel differently. About it could could also be a pre draft take that you. Regret wondering if The jaguars fit either one of those, modes Because i'm curious to hear what you think about The jaguars.

00:43:08
Speaker 5: Draft The jags one was deeply. Confusing it really did feel like overthinking the. ROOM i Liked Vo kosha more than the, consensus BUT i still think the fifty sixth overall pick was a bit. RICH i understand there was going to be a run on tight. Tens there were still guys going On day three who have some degree of at least blocking capability or. Upside you take a twenty five year old guy with barely any production is pretty. CONFUSING i like D Albert, REGIS i like the manual. Pregnant The Jalen husky one was the first player who went off the. Board i'd evaluated roughly three hundred and fifty players in the.

00:43:41
Speaker 6: CLASS i hadn't even.

00:43:43
Speaker 5: Watched Jalen, husky SO i can't say it's a bad pick BECAUSE i haven't seen. Him but it felt really rich for a guy who wasn't even on the, consensus BUT i didn't even have my long watch list to get to get to before the draft all the way. Through Wesley williams is a real tweener Who i'm not quite sure will ever have a real role in the. League so it just, fell, yeah massively ahead of, consensus iding once again the Wist smarts and.

00:44:07
Speaker 6: The rest of the.

00:44:07
Speaker 5: League even when you watch their pre draft or they did the freatency, video yes there was an arrogant string running throughout the video that we know better than everyone. Else and you can agree or disagree with the consensus board. Itself everyone builds their own, board and in this draft in, PARTICULAR i think the consensus board was going to be off and there were particular POSITIONS i would say outside the first two rounds where the league's board is just completely different to what the consensus board. Is but even with that, said there was a lot of really rich.

00:44:37
Speaker 6: PICKS i would say.

00:44:39
Speaker 2: It's an interesting situation because their front office did a good job kind of getting some players around the margins in free, agency and like different pickups last, year they didn't get much production out of the rookie. CLASS i, MEAN i love The Travis hunter, trade but obviously you know he didn't play that. Much Caleb ramsaw their third round, Pick Wyatt, mullum, like we're not really on the field for, them partly because of, injury partly Not Baseiel tutan was a good fourth round. Pick they had a ton Of day three, picks but you haven't seen their guys quote unquote for this New James gladstone staff like step onto the, field and so there's just still a lot of. Questions BUT i like a team that's, Confident LIKE i feel like people are ready to just take shots At.

00:45:22
Speaker 3: Gladstone though maybe they're asking for. IT i don't.

00:45:24
Speaker 6: Know that is. True that is.

00:45:27
Speaker 5: True the best paw of the free agency video was when a member of the staff said we should film, this and Then James louts, says it is being, filmed and he revealed to his staff.

00:45:37
Speaker 6: That the whole place was why to why are we?

00:45:39
Speaker 5: Cameras and then maybe he should have let his underlings no beforehand they were being filmed throughout that.

00:45:44
Speaker 3: Jobs that is a great.

00:45:46
Speaker 2: Call While i'm thinking, VETERANS i have a category the weirdest veteran related. Story Jordan schultz and there were some whispers about, it mentioned that maybe some teams were interested poking around At Nego.

00:46:00
Speaker 3: Collins that was a little.

00:46:01
Speaker 2: WEIRD i, mean it's not the first Time i've heard, that and SO i think it's it's gonna be. Safe Nick cassario came out after the draft and, Said nico's not going, anywhere but two years left tennis, contract pretty. Underpaid maybe it's just a contract, thing but it sounded like some teams were like sniffing around On Nico. Collins, Also Brandon ayuk like after the draft still was not, traded And John lynch literally went up to the podium and was, like, yeah we just think it's good be business to keep keep. Them if anyone's, interested just let us. Know he literally said. THAT i was, Like i've never seen that. Before this is so weird and so. Vindictive everyone knows that he's, Available, John they're not gonna, Call they're just gonna. Wait you're not carrying them onto the. Season just just give up the. Ghost those are my my weird. CHOICES i don't know if you have thoughts there or a different weird veteran kind of related.

00:46:50
Speaker 5: Story, yeah well they'll correct me If i'm. Wrong they have to pay him no, money, right so it's.

00:46:55
Speaker 2: Free you have no guaranteed, money but he does have a, contract so at they can they can just wait until almost the season. Starts but then it guarantees itself that once you get the week, one there's there's zero chances on the roster week, ones but you could wait around till To.

00:47:11
Speaker 3: Campy.

00:47:11
Speaker 5: Right the THING i found a bit peculiar post draft was why The lions and The, bes based on how That bulls, went did not outbid For Jonathan. GRENADE i JUST i found a little bit puzzling THAT i liked both that. DRAFT i liked The bes a lot more than the best fan base appears to, do WHICH i completely. Understand i'm mostly in the mode of IF i weaked in the play to the scheme, fit then you do have to sit back and, Say, okay what does the roster look? Like and it's got some some holes that they could have addressed during the, Draft but, well.

00:47:38
Speaker 2: Why, wait why didn't they like to see this is WHERE i should be on? Top Logan jones the center in the second, round tight End Sam rousch in the third. Round he was part of that tight end. Run xavi And thomas THE lsu wide receiver in the third. Round, like what was it that they didn't?

00:47:53
Speaker 3: Like what are your?

00:47:53
Speaker 2: Favorites Keishawn, elliott a linebacker in the fifth. Round, Yeah Dennis allen knows. Ball he knows even you know what they didn't. LIKE i didn't have any any.

00:48:01
Speaker 5: PROBLEM i think it's the not addressing like in the interior defensive, line not trying to go and get one of the. Addresses it was a stacked dead rushing class and they just kept going and you could have got guys with real value even early On day. Three in the middle Of day, two there was a ton of value to get with the edge. RUSHERS i think that would be the best fans' main. Concern from What i've, UNDERSTOOD a couple of them were probably a little bit puzzling to. Me the ONE i really loved Was Xavian. THOMAS i hadn't graded out as A tier four. Player for, ME i thought that was like way high because he just wasn't showing up on any of The consentus. Sports so For Ben jonson to buy in on, Him he's got a little bit Of Luther burden to his. Game he might be the most electric returner in the, country really good stuff after the, Catch he's really. Explosive SO i thought That Xavian thomas wanted is one that we'll look back on in week, ten week, eleven when there's a lot of guys who were, talented maybe long term developmental, players but you're looking up on red zone and there's just this like electric player making a whole bunch of people missing and returning punts and.

00:48:56
Speaker 2: KICKS i love, that AND i think with The lions, draft the most surprising thing to me was that they gave up a fourth to move up six spots For Derek, moore the edge From, michigan just, because, man they were really projecting that another team was gonna Take Derek, moore and they really do seem to fall in love with their, evaluations which WHICH i, get like who, Wouldn't but it seems like if he had been Taken gabyakiz was, there there was other edges that would have been, available and that's just kind of a thing that The lions. Do they're also Moving Pane seool to the left. Side they did Say Blake miller is going to be their right, Tackle Pine seool on the left, side and that's more of a league wide.

00:49:34
Speaker 3: Trend.

00:49:35
Speaker 2: MAN a lot of these offensive linemen are being asked to move positions right off the bat or don't have set, positions WHICH i think is. Risky Like ihanachor for The, STEELERS i think was a good, value but they don't seem sure where he will, play and are you gonna Move falatano? Away and they're kind of, saying we're not, sure, really AND i believe, him they're not, sure and so THAT'S i think a risky part of, this almost this entire top of the offensive line. Class what did you think, about like all the different linemen that aren't going to play where they played in.

00:50:06
Speaker 5: College, Well Blake MILLER i think will play on the right, side, right so that's where he played in. College the hecho, ONE i would probably keep him on the right and move Oward tanu to the. Left that's where he played in, college so you can get him back to his most comfortable. SPOT i think He onochour is the one in three years the.

00:50:23
Speaker 6: Whole league will go what were we?

00:50:24
Speaker 5: Thinking this guy moves like Toront armstead and we decided not to take him because he's not played the sport for very long and his techniques out. There we just Saw jordan Mylat to go through this same development arc to become one of the best left tackles in the. League and there WAS i thought good tackles in this, class but the majority of them are going to have to move, inside most likely To, god none of them moved the Way Maxiana shaw. Does he moves Like Arman. Membu he's not quite as nasty in the rung. Game there are some technical, flaws but he just moves completely differently to anyone else that was. DRAFTED i get why you take someone Like Blake. Miller he's really, durable he's really. EXPLOSIVE i think there's way more upside with him that he's given credit. For he's kind of pegg those like long tem Starting clemson tackle like solid. Technique if, ANYTHING i think he's a little bit inadequate. Technically he doesn't really play to how he's gonna have to succeed in the.

00:51:12
Speaker 6: League but he's crazy.

00:51:13
Speaker 5: Explosive he's got the, nasty, mean Streaky he's a Pure Dan campbell. Player SO i loved The Blink miller one for the lines and the He, Onnatrol AND i know he wasn't that first pick they Wanted Makaya. Lemon it's a pretty impressive full back plunt to get a guy who could wind up being the best of the whole.

00:51:29
Speaker 2: Group, yeah those are some depth charts worth. WATCHING i think we know what they're going to do In. Detroit we'll see the offensive line With. PITTSBURGH a couple other depth Charts i'm. WATCHING i had a category spicy depth chart Situations Carson Beck jakovissett, like, yes, Okay.

00:51:46
Speaker 3: I'm kind of into. That you're you're putting your hand on your.

00:51:48
Speaker 2: Head there was a Graphic we're gonna put it up if you're watching on YouTube THAT espn put, out WHICH i really, enjoyed that, said are is this the future of quarterback in THE Nfc? West and it Was Ty simpson And Carson.

00:52:04
Speaker 3: BECK i don't.

00:52:05
Speaker 2: KNOW i don't think it's the, future but we'll see.

00:52:08
Speaker 5: That cardinals draft in general was, puzzling and it's a difficult one because they drafted a ton of players THAT i really. Like everyone Loves Jeremiah Love how could you. Not i'm a huge fan Of Chase Bersontis Kayla procter as the flyer Interior russia from the small school in that, SYSTEM i thought was an excellent value pick. UP i thought he'd go a little earlier than the one hundred and fourth. Pig but you come out of a draft having had the third overall pig with the most guaranteed money to running back rooms in the, league and still with needs a, quarterback right, tackle and second Edge russia and Even. Bersontis his skill set is his slick feet in pass, pro which doesn't really marry up with the fact you just took a running back third overall in the, draft and you're telling us you're gonna be this downhill thumping type. Offense SO i just found it, very very puzzling for a team and having this heavy rebul and then Taking carson back in the third round is just that's mind.

00:52:58
Speaker 3: Blowing it was crazy to.

00:53:00
Speaker 2: ME i get, like trying to take a quarterback every year just to see if you hit on, one then take Nuss meyer in the fifth or. Whatever Garrett nusmeyer goes eventually in the. Seventh using those high volume, PICKS i mean a high value picks On, beck especially when it sounded like maybe ownership gets involved with The Jeremiah love, pickle who's like a great, player but you worry about how that process all went down like that makes the second and third round picks even more important to get guys that can play right, away And Carson beck is probably not going to be. That i'm also curious about the The ravens wide receiver. Situation you, Know Zay flowers is, There Rashad bateman after every season gets. Unhappy there was a whole thing after last, Season he's still.

00:53:44
Speaker 3: There and then your.

00:53:45
Speaker 2: Guy elijah sat about passes on the outside From Lamar jackson and Then Jacobe, lane who they took around ahead of, them and so they they double up at wide. Receiver SAT's got a chance to play BECAUSE i think his skill set matches up pretty well With Lamar Jackson Jacoby.

00:54:03
Speaker 6: LAYNE i don't.

00:54:04
Speaker 5: DISRESPECTFUL i have little to know interest In Elijah. SURRAT i had in the same tier as all the top receivers in the. DRAFT i understand that if you go and watch, him it's not going to be as explosive and as almost like expressive as the really dynamic receivers in this. Class but in just terms of professional, receiving get to POINT, a get to POINT b on time in rhythm and get yourself. Open the fact he creates such a chasm of space without being a new ber athlete kind of tells you he knows what he's, doing and he's doing against elite competition for The national, champions going up against. Everyone he's got the, deepest most diverse package of any of the receivers in this. Class and now he's going to go and play with AN mvp quarterback who will be able to just throw the ball off the. Sideline And lamar hasn't really had many of these types of. Players it's been like the embers Of DeAndre. Hopkins he's not being in The Justin herbert, situation which is if you just throw the ball off the sideline by two, yards this guy can go get it for. You that's the get out of jail free. Card every time it's third and seven and the rush is coming, home just throw it off the, field the pseudo. Throwaway elijah will come down with.

00:55:03
Speaker 3: It.

00:55:03
Speaker 2: LOOK i hope for your sake that evaluation has therise. RIGHT i hope For patrick's. SAKE i hope For Lamar jackson's sake because the description that you have for, him he's he's where you need him to be on time in, rhythm not a DESCRIPTION i would use for many of The ravens wide receivers in The lamar, ERA a lot of it is it's It's Zay flowers, this it's, loosey, goosey it's feel it. Out Like bateman has has his, moments And i've always thought he he's got a chance and, underrated but that he hasn't had a lot of reliable Like Derek mason For Joe flacco type.

00:55:37
Speaker 3: PLAYERS i feel like he could use.

00:55:39
Speaker 5: Some, yeah that this high end outcome For surat would be somewhere With Mike, Williams Keaton allen and how they would use with the, charges and he's going to come in and block his tail. Off it's going to be more of a compressed condensed type. System robin the space pace in space and all the fluid moving. Motion in that, SENSE i think he's going to become a really reliable target For lamar in a way that they haven't had.

00:55:59
Speaker 2: Recently we're gonna take one more break and we're gonna Drive eric a little. Crazy but there's only one draft all, season and there's only one show With ali recapping it at.

00:56:09
Speaker 3: All we'll finish it up on the other side back ON Nfl.

00:56:21
Speaker 2: Daily we're, Thinking, okay what do we still need to get into this show before we Drive eric? Crazy let's drive him a little kit crazier and talk about The.

00:56:30
Speaker 3: BILLS i SAID i had.

00:56:32
Speaker 2: A category sneaky bad draft for a, team and your, Response ali was, like was The bills draft sneaky?

00:56:39
Speaker 3: Bad? Like was it even?

00:56:40
Speaker 2: Sneaky what did you think About Brandon bean Doing Brandon bean things over the?

00:56:45
Speaker 5: Week it just continues to do what he. Does it makes no sense to. Me Joe brady gets hired in pot because he convinced his owner ship And Brendan bean That i'm not just the offensive, guy can be THE. Ceo i'm going to pick up the phone To Jim, lennon one of the open coming defensive minds in old, football and we're going to bin into the. Fat we're gonna have the most modern defense you can, find And i'm not just an offensive. Guy and they go throughout free, agency they go through the, draft and they acquire no one who fits the model The Jim lennon would need to actually run the, defense he would truly want to run it hot and even beyond, that just he doesn't fit schematically what we hired this guy to. Do they didn't add any juice off the. Edge they added no interior defensive lineman to help with the fact they couldnot fit the. Run they didn't add a true off ball. Linebacker they didn't add a true debt. Safety so all the things were an issue just down the spine of the. Defense last year when they played pretty mundane, ball they didn't add to, that and they didn't add any of the versatile hybrid pieces That Jim lennar would require to actually be able to run a.

00:57:42
Speaker 3: Scheme, well they did ADD. Tj.

00:57:44
Speaker 6: Parker was that zero, juice zero juice off the.

00:57:47
Speaker 3: Ball some people LIKE. Tj.

00:57:49
Speaker 2: Parker Derek klassen had him in his top. Twenty The bills clearly liked.

00:57:54
Speaker 3: Him he kind of LIKE.

00:57:55
Speaker 5: Tj i'm not disputing that you don't LIKE. Tj park but you LIKE. Tj parker for this, scrappiness for some of the inside outside, potential for the fact that he's an all out f play that he's smiled against. Run he's not coming in as a true burna flying it off the.

00:58:08
Speaker 2: Edge skyler Bell yukon wide, receiver fourth round hundred and twenty. Fifth, overall CAN i interest you in a Little Skylar?

00:58:15
Speaker 5: BELL i understand why people Like Skyler belly had a ton of production At.

00:58:19
Speaker 6: Yukon they built the entire plane of the offense out of.

00:58:21
Speaker 5: HIM i do worry about those guys when they come to the league and you're like the third guy in the progression playing twenty? Snaps what does it look like when it's not old bubble screens and jet sweeps kind of petting the?

00:58:31
Speaker 3: Statue, yeah and, LOOK.

00:58:33
Speaker 2: Tj, Park i'm just trying to Play devil's advocate, Here Bradley. Chubb not a lot of juice in uninspiring offseason. OVERALL a lot of it was AROUND Dj, moore like the money and the draft, picks and so that's that's really got a. Hit but, look they're All sabers fans. There they're happy right, now they're. Distracted how about The seahawks as like a it is it rude to say they're draft was? Sneaky or SHOULD i be wary because they've been nailing drafts so well. Lately you, know you take a running back To Darian price is, exciting can fill a role for. Them Bud clark the safety late in the in the second. Round Julian, Neil arkansas, cornerback probably more like the first two, picks a little, risky but The seahawks have seen things different than the rest of the board for a while and for the most part they've done.

00:59:24
Speaker 5: Well, yeah they're pretty good at. This they just had a, parade so it's. TOUGH i think the Criticized schneider he doesn't have maybe the best resume of doing the late in the first round running back, thing which is when he overthinks.

00:59:35
Speaker 6: THINGS i Think.

00:59:37
Speaker 5: Price was clearly the second back in the, draft and it does fit the need of The Kenneth walker of getting some real juice and explosivity in. There and he probably is gonna work on a pitch count depending on When Zach shabine's back from the, injury so you can make some sense of. It i'm just not sure it was the best. Value it's just hard to find a lot of space on that roster to truly. Upgrade. ANYWAY i really Loved Julian. NEIL i thought he was a massive sleeper in the. Draft he's a perfect fit for, them And andre full of the cornerback From toledo they took in the seventh round is the Most seahawks player you could have found in the.

01:00:07
Speaker 6: Draft he lives to.

01:00:08
Speaker 5: Fit the, run the coverage stuff we can worry about four or five, years but just flying downhill on special, teams being forced out there because we've got some injury concerns in week, eight week, nine Whatever FULLER i think has start to. Potential so it wasn't awful all the way. AROUND i was just not a huge, boat but clock, guy and then you can have the conversation about running back.

01:00:27
Speaker 3: Value that's.

01:00:27
Speaker 2: Fair we haven't Hit day three too much because we wouldn't do a show, after So i'll just give you the floor on Any day three pick or picks that you want to kind of give some love. Too we did talk About Keante, scott the kind of nickel that that's going to be playing for the. Buck so that's one we already covered some Other day three, guys maybe in your in your.

01:00:49
Speaker 5: Eye one That i'm going to track really closely IS. Vj, pain the safety From Kansas. STATE i think he's a natural corner who was forced to play, safety AND i love the idea of getting. Him he was the two hundred twenty eighth overall pick and he's going To Aaron, glenn who might be the best pure man coverage technique coach in all of. FOOTBALL i don't know how many years he's going to get to work Under Aaron. Glen but in terms of taking a late round flyer on these, cornerbacks there's a lot of, slow small corners that were taking late in the, draft AND i think he was just completely miscast as a, safety was evaluated as a safety by most. PEOPLE i think for The jets during training, camp they'll try and move them to corner and that one interests, me and then it's gotta Be Taylor. Green Getting Taylor green late in the draft who has legit potential as a. Quarterback he played in school in The Lamar jackson, offense The Lamar Rant. Louisville he played under center just as much As Ty. Simpson he played under center way more Than Fernando. Mendoza if you go back to twenty twenty four Against TEXAS a AND, m he has some pocket navigation and throws on the move that are absolutely. OUTRAGEOUS i think he can be a quarterback if someone's willing to invest the time commitment to do the, development and if, not you get a guy with the, size weight speed profile Of Calvin. Johnson that feels like a pretty good thing to. Do And i'm that you think that's the. Joke go, Up i'm up, draftable pull up the Spider. Chill it's him And Calvin johnson one to. One he could Be Terrell. Prya maybe he plays tight. End he's adamant he's going to be a quarterback and that needs a massive mechanical oval. Hole but if Ty simpson goes thirteenth of role because he ran a pro style, system so Did Taylor, green he just also is this ridiculous.

01:02:23
Speaker 6: Athlete who can pull the ball and take off and.

01:02:25
Speaker 3: Run, YEAH i loved me.

01:02:27
Speaker 2: Some Jalen milroe going into last year thinking, like, well worst case he's a Plus Taysom hill maybe with a package of plays that as a you, know born out, yet although we'll.

01:02:37
Speaker 3: See i'm not giving up On Jalen.

01:02:38
Speaker 2: Milroe But, green who you mentioned From, arkansas taken by The browns in the sixth. Round so another quarterback added to that, room which is. Interesting now he might maybe you can sneak Tailing green through waivers and he's on your practice. Squad maybe you could do that For Dylan. Gabriel, FRANKLY i don't know The browns in. General we kind of skip Past emmanuel McNeil warren getting taken by them in the second, round LIKE i mentioned it on our. Show but in, general the value that The browns got pairing Up concepcion And Denzel, boston Getting Spencer fano, early and then just taking picks throughout, that for the most, part made sense to. Me the only thing that didn't make sense to me was On. Sunday you probably didn't see this quote Where Andrew berry Called Jerry judy their bell cow wide. Receiver rookies are not going to threaten him in any. Way they're just trying to Make jerry feel better about the. Fact AND i didn't even know bell cow receiver was a. THING i have my doubts whether that'll actually, happen but, yeah like while we're, here let's give.

01:03:41
Speaker 3: Some browns the brown some.

01:03:42
Speaker 5: Love just WHEN i was coming, around And Andrew, berry you read that. Quote to, me that's, brutal that's. Brutal The Spence fano pick makes a ton of. SENSE i was not quite as high on him as as other people in the. Class but if he was the top graded tackling that they move back to get. Him that that's great, value not JUST conceptsi on Who i'm slightly worried about the scheme fit in him just being cast as Z. A flowers WHEN i think he can be more than. That but getting conception On Denzel boston, TOGETHER i think is an excellent. Value there is two completely complementary skill. SETS i was not as much of a fan Of Denzel boston as the consensus, was but he has a pretty clearly defined skill, set which is he could dunk on the head of. Anyone if you throw it up above the rim in the red, zone he can go and dunk on your. Head AND i think if you force that in the first round out of being, concerned but you get a three level demon Like Casey, concepts you have to fry everyone throughout the rest of the course of the. Game i'm pretty cool with Bringing Denzel bostons as the red zone.

01:04:32
Speaker 2: Target, yeah concepsion could have fit my category, earlier where like good, value really good. Player in my, Mind i'm not sure the fit's. PERFECT i, mean you would have liked a different spot than The, browns but maybe maybe It's archer man in throwing ball to, him.

01:04:45
Speaker 5: And credit To Andrew berry because one of the other trends was no one was giving up those twenty twenty seven. Picks the league on mass was, saying we think this class. Stinks it falls of after the top one hundred. Picks berry was able to squeeze out a fourth round or in a trade for next next year's, draft which compared to this draft might be a late two early three comparative to talent across the, board so he not only nailed it all the way. THROUGH i Love Justin, jefferson the linebacker From alabama as a potential coverage safety down the.

01:05:12
Speaker 6: Line he's really.

01:05:13
Speaker 5: Athletic Austin bob was one of my preferred developmental. Tackles you mentioned McNeil, warrant WHO i think that's the right range for, him rather than being pushed into the first round where he was being Mark so it's crazy. Value ALTHOUGH i even Preferred Joe royat to almost all The titans who went off On day, three SO i thought they absolutely crushed it both in terms of value of moving the.

01:05:33
Speaker 6: Board it was pretty.

01:05:34
Speaker 2: Impressive if they have a second straight really strong draft Like Andrew berry is not going. ANYWHERE i don't care what their record. Is maybe they'll get a new, coach but not. Him day three, picks by the, WAY i did want to shout out you Are bernard with a two hundred and fifty first Pick philadelphia invited BY Ocu minura to participate in the twenty twenty Four nigeria. CAMP i had long conversation With Maury Jones drew who was there at the, time and when it, happened LIKE osi is finding these guys And Henry, hodson our, friend has been excited. ABOUT i Think bernard in particular hasn't literally played any, football but he landed in The International Player pathway program because he has some of the freakiest, numbers like testing, wise that you have ever. Seen so if some team's gonna figure out how to make him a, player how about The. Eagles that's A day three. PICK i Like Jonah, coleman the running back for The. BRONCOS i think could be a real factor as just like a doubles hitter might lead them in carries this year wouldn't surprise me at. All in the fourth, round and THEN i wanted to mention an undrafted Kicker Kansai matsuzawa on The tokyo Tow he wasn't, drafted but he's on The. Raiders we should have mentioned him as part of The Raiders. Hall he fell in love with football Visiting Las. Vegas, wow years and years, ago went to A raiders, game or, no maybe it Wasn't Las. Vega, YEAH i went to A raiders, game fell in love with. Football then he went To hawaii barely missed the kick last, Year so shout out to can't Say matsuzawa rooting for.

01:07:08
Speaker 5: HIM i got to say On, bernard it did hurt my soul that my Beloved Loo mole went undrafted and a guy who's never played the sport was actually taken the seventh. Round he does have the crazy athletic. PROFILE i got a little bit nervous WHEN i SAW i was sent through you, know the the black market of the draft. Community you get some of the workout stuff with him to do the. EVALUATION i was really nervous during the interview portion of the package that was put together when he said it's very uncomfortable to wear the, helmet AND i was, like, okay, okay let's get ready for training.

01:07:39
Speaker 3: CAMP i, mean we can we can get through.

01:07:43
Speaker 6: That we can work on. It we can work on.

01:07:44
Speaker 3: It we can work on. That begainning of The.

01:07:47
Speaker 2: EAGLES i had a category happy new offensive? Coordinator what do you AND i would Put Sean manyan as my pick in that. Category what do you make of the transition that they are undergoing as an? Offense Eli stowers And Mackay lemon and two guys maybe make it plays over the middle of the. Field Certainly Dantavian wicks And LEMON i think fit well in a style of offense That mannion was learning under Under Matt lafleur In Green. Bay that it's different than what The eagles have. Done it's different than What Jalen hurts has been running the last handful of.

01:08:24
Speaker 3: Years so just.

01:08:24
Speaker 2: Kinda what do you make of what they are doing and what that means For.

01:08:28
Speaker 5: HURTS i really like it BECAUSE i think they've been able to find the players who could play both, styles and so if it doesn't work out one, way they can at least Break glass from revert back to being pretty, static pretty spread and playing one on one. FOOTBALL i Think Mackay lemon can roast people in the slot just with the two way go Classic Julian needelman type. Football he's probably at his best playing more Like Cooper cup where it's tied to the. Formation it's really. Condensed he's running to. Grass it's a lot of crossing. Routes, STOWS i think, similarly is more of a power slot to. Me who can play Some matt football for? You and if you want to force him to be a tight, end the best COMP i could come up with would Be dallas got up where it's really. Vertical in the receiving, game he's mostly they're in the, gun he's splitting across the. Formation he's not really the target point in the wrong. Game he's just kind of a nuisance in the way to make the numbers. Work SO i think what it's given them is guys who fit the new, style if that's what they want to push do removes any kind of get out of jail For Jalen, hurts, like this is what we're, doing this is the new. Offense are you're willing to throw the ball to the middle of the field with rhythm or? Not and if that kind of falls, apart these guys still fit the old. Model they used to run rather than boxing themselves in to what the new system's going to.

01:09:38
Speaker 2: BE i, mean if that falls, apart it might Be tanner McKee. Time and, also don't don't sleep On Cole. Peyton Jalen hurts doesn't want to do the push the touch push stuff. Anymore they go and get a quarterback in who is a downhill Thumping Taysom hill type. Quarterback if we're going to move the system, again it's, Okay, jayler interesting touch push guy like.

01:09:57
Speaker 3: That do you have a?

01:09:59
Speaker 2: Coordinator you think on either, side whatever one stands out to, you mote most like a coordinator who is just like much happier after this draft of what he's going to get to work.

01:10:11
Speaker 5: WITH i Think Keller moore and Dougna smeier together with The, SAINTS i think the off season in, general they've got to be pretty. PLEASED i think if you come away With Jordan, tyson who plenty of teams graded it out as the number one receiver in the. Class we talked About Oscar delt being that profile of that fits the model Of George kittel of the guys who didn't have great production in, college but they're great athletes and they blocked their tails off in, college and that usually translates better to the, league and Then Bryce lance he went lower THAN i thoughts they were able to get a potential Maybe rashich he replacement as a, size, speed vertical. Threat and you add that To David edwards in the offseason With Travis etn in free. Agency you look at that offensive line if McCoy is, healthy WHICH i know is it's probably not the smileting to rely on McCoy's, health but they have real, talent and With tyson And delt And, LANCE i think it's just a amount of building blocks Around Tyler. Shuk So i'd be pretty fired up IF i Was Kella moore and Dougno.

01:11:05
Speaker 2: Smye, yeah the only the only fly in the ointment For saints fans Is caesar Or ruiz is still. There but, UH i know Some saints fans were unhappy with their, draft WHICH i was shocked. By Kristin miller was your guy at defensive? Tackle you really like that. PICK i think it was your number one defensive. Tackle and then they've made some moves since with the, draft or at least since we talked. About they traded a seventh For Tyree. Wilson not so sure that was worth, it but it's a SEVENTH i, mean the Freaking ravens led their owner take a fifth round.

01:11:38
Speaker 3: Pick did you read that? Story?

01:11:39
Speaker 6: No?

01:11:40
Speaker 3: No who was? IT i will find. OUT i think it was A clemson running? Back AM i? Crazy? Uh?

01:11:47
Speaker 6: Anyway rendell The clemson running.

01:11:50
Speaker 3: Back i'll get back to. It did you like, him by the, way did you have any feelings for?

01:11:54
Speaker 2: HIM i was not a fan, Though, Okay Steve bashatti at some Like ravens summit it they always do In florida or, Whatever like a month or two, ago he was, LIKE i want a draft. Pick Eric tacosta told this story at the. Present he's, LIKE i want a draft, pick Like i've never gotten to take Any i've never gotten. INVOLVED i want one draft pick as like a homework. Assignment and they were like, sure, Boss like what could you? Say you would have thought it would have been a seventh round, pick but they actually Gave they gave him a fifth round pick to play with. That he, says he went in the lab and, oh by the, way happens to be like friends With Dabas sweets or some assistant there and takes takes that running.

01:12:30
Speaker 5: Back they did then take a punter after, that which is indicative of probably how deep that draft board.

01:12:36
Speaker 6: Was they were kind of done by pig one.

01:12:38
Speaker 5: Fifty they thought the stunk and they were, like, hey, yeah the only can take a fifth.

01:12:41
Speaker 2: Round, yeah they said our last fifth down wreck and he quote this is a quote From. DaCosta he did his, research he studied the tape and talked about. People he has a really good relationship With. DABO i, mean, okay so he just talked To, dabo who SHOULD i take late my happy coordinator bouncing all around, here he, is oh, WAIT i didn't finished my point on The, saints which is that they trade For Tyree wilson and they also Signed Andthrety, jennings the Former patriot, edgeestter WHICH i think was like a good that guy can actually play snaps for you signing at this point in the offseason like just a a good run stuff for The saints are just making, sense which is a strange.

01:13:18
Speaker 5: Feeling it does. DOES i don't know what to do with. Myself Kristin, MILLER i, had as you, SAID i thought it was the best interior defensive lineman in the. Class he is a picture perfect fit For Brandon. STALEY i just liked. It on, offense they, said we think we got something In Tyler. Shook he could be really really good for us in two three. Seasons let's go and try and take big home run. Swings if we just find one player out Of delp And, tyson those are boomball bus type. Players to, me if just one of those guys is a near all pro type, player it's worth taking the swing on those. Guys then, defensively we'll go and Get Kristin, miller who's the most sure THING i would say of the defensive lineman the. Class jennings suore thing is a free agent Pickup, tyrie he is what he is for seventh round, pick to have an interior guy with who has some degree OF i would say as a past rush as an interior. PLAYER i just think the work they've done is very sensible in a way that makes me feel.

01:14:12
Speaker 2: Confused, yes That the only THING i fear is it's a it's a team full of on paper injury.

01:14:20
Speaker 3: RISKS i know every player is an injury.

01:14:21
Speaker 2: Risk it's tackle, football but it's just there's a the receiver group shuck the, offense the offensive, line especially like you, mentioned McCoy just hasn't been, healthy so there's a lot of like, if but it could work out really. Well my last Thing i'm going to talk about, here and if you have anything you just got to get out on the show think about, It, Ali but First i'm gonna ask you About Brian flores Because i'm gonna have him as my happy defensive coordinator for them to go all. Defense it was almost Like kevin O'Connell knew everyone said he was now in charge of the, draft and so he wanted to show, Everyone, Hey i'm gonna do what's best for the. Team it's not all about my. Offense and they go defense with their first three. Picks Caleb, banks a really high ceiling defensive tackle From, florida whereas like if he's, healthy With, flores it could be a home. Run he's had foot, problems it could be a total swing and. Miss they get Big Orange Dominique orange defensive tackle in the third, round a different style of player Than, banks and Then Jake, goldey who listed at linebacker but maybe a little bit more of a hybrid. Role all three of these guys really could be hybrid style. Players and because you Have Brian, flores he's been pretty good at picking the guys that will fit for.

01:15:35
Speaker 3: Him.

01:15:35
Speaker 2: MAN i think as good as their defense was to add like an influx of, youth which they, needed they actually were kind of an older. Defense really promising for The.

01:15:44
Speaker 5: Vikings, Yeah Caleb banks on the best reps looks Like Chris. Jones it's just how often you can get those reps and whether you can stay. Healthy but it was totally understanding of if any defensive tech was going to go in the first, round you take the guy who in flashes looks Like Chris jones just seems like a pretty good to, me perfect fit For Brian flores. System Gold day is the one to one com would Be Van. Ginkel he played a really peculiar role At. Cincinnati it was strange to try and project out what system he would work. In as a true stacked linebacker playing in the, Box i'm not sure he would be able to handle. That but for The vikings as playing as a mugged player in the pass frush, game playing on the edge on early, DOWNS i can absolutely see.

01:16:25
Speaker 6: That and you mentioned Big.

01:16:26
Speaker 5: Orange they Got Big citrus in, there who is more of the two gapping run stuffing. Guy BUT i Think he's got a bit more wiggle than a lot of the guys who went ahead of even Like kada, McDonald who is a better like pure run, defender better technique, defender can blast people in a way That Dominic curries doesn't have that kind of thunder in his. Hands but he's got more, juice he's got more sideways. Wiggles SO i think that fits For Brian flores more than other guys who are on the. Board and the last Guy i'll note for them they took late on in the fifth. Round Charles demings From STEVEN. F austin is one of the best all around athletes in the. Draft he's got nocaluly what's happening right now at. Corner he was so much more athletically give did than anyone he ever came up. Against he was just doing his own, thing, freelancing having. Fun could get away with it because he was this crazy. Athlete but to find one of the four or five best pound for pounds raw athletes in the draft in the fifth round of a draft up once saying all this class. Stinks The ravens given that pick to their owner in the fifth, round and they can come away With Charles demings and had him To Brian flores form A dB coach for a couple of seasons that that's once keep track.

01:17:23
Speaker 2: OF i will be AND i was even before you said. That we actually have sound Of Charles demis and maybe my favorite head coach call interaction of the entire. WEEKEND i can't get enough of, these but this was a particularly good one Between demans And kevin.

01:17:40
Speaker 4: O'Connell, Charles, man, CONGRATS i appreciate it, now, man so good, boy sound like better than any MELODY i. Heard that's the first time in my life anybody's told me my voice sounded like a.

01:17:52
Speaker 6: Melody thank you for, that, Man, right you just.

01:17:55
Speaker 3: Made my whole day right.

01:17:57
Speaker 4: THERE i, HOPE i hope we made yours were fired?

01:17:59
Speaker 5: Up oh, yeah, man this is the mind interaction right.

01:18:04
Speaker 3: Here you know the the other teams, man they drafted dogs.

01:18:07
Speaker 5: With john just got a.

01:18:08
Speaker 4: Piece, Man i'm telling, You i'm gonna hold you to.

01:18:11
Speaker 5: That oh, Yeah we're gonna walk run straight Doing, Man.

01:18:21
Speaker 3: I've got to order my Means jersey Now i'm.

01:18:23
Speaker 2: IN i wish in another LIFE i could just be like AN nfl. Cornerback that's definitely WHAT i would WHAT i would want to.

01:18:30
Speaker 6: Be you have that, vibe need a.

01:18:32
Speaker 3: Little more, height a little a lot more. Weight it's all.

01:18:35
Speaker 2: Happened did you do you have anything else you need to get into our winners and losers Show alie before you get on that plane For.

01:18:43
Speaker 3: Paris you asked.

01:18:44
Speaker 5: Me if there was SOMETHING i wanted to brag about or made me look, small and that was a category we never got, to you, know maintain the pumpous urgan. Allegations i'm not gonna miss out on that. CATEGORY i just would like to point out to you. Politely The John hawball, said the R Vl reese is a versatile. Player we're going to play inside, backer will. Linebacker does this mean THE dj owes me a.

01:19:07
Speaker 2: BIT i love that we're gonna be taping our last forties in free, agents and that is gonna remind me to bring up that very issue with the man. HIMSELF dj did did an awesome. Job was fun watching him all weekend and he's like taking pictures of Mel. Kuiper but you're, right that was a, good good pat on the back that ultimately that's that's what Rvel reese is gonna. DO i thought you were gonna pat yourself on the back For Malachi.

01:19:32
Speaker 5: Lawrence the ONE i would really do it for would Be Jaden, kennedy The chief's fourth round.

01:19:38
Speaker 6: Pick who is this?

01:19:40
Speaker 5: Safety nickel five one eighty small by league, standards probably gonna play, safety Not. NICKEL i just loved everything about his. Game he is an electric play to, watch crazy, small crazy, tough plays so much above his height and, weight and it's just a complete dog on the. Field AND i just love him so much more than the crub of like long limbed safeties who are being pushed into the second third round. Discussion and he wound up being the seventh safety taking off the. Board he was the eighth on the board for. Me he was twentieth on the consensus board going, in but he went ahead Of Genesis smith And Jalen kilgoorn Ze Key wheatley and just the ideal fit For spags if anyone can figure out a role for him to, play will Be.

01:20:20
Speaker 2: SPIGNOLO i, mean that's who you want draft in your defensive back prospect evaluations that are extra.

01:20:26
Speaker 3: High spags is gonna make you look.

01:20:27
Speaker 2: Smart that's awesome and Look ali also broke The Jonathan grenard news by sort of by mistake on his, podcast so check out the read optional you deserve a, Break let's hit that. MUSIC i will put OUR Nfl daily crew up against any crew in the.

01:20:44
Speaker 3: Business we will be back.

01:20:46
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