Sony Reportedly Scaling Back PC Ports for PlayStation Exclusives

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<v Speaker 1>let's start the morning mess with Sony reportedly scaling back
<v Speaker 1>PC ports for PlayStation exclusives. This is from Sophie McAvoy
<v Speaker 1>at Games Industry Dot is kind of reporting on a
<v Speaker 1>report from Jason Schreyer over at Bloomberg. Sony has reportedly
<v Speaker 1>decided to pull back from releasing PlayStation five exclusives onto
<v Speaker 1>PC Sources familiar with the company's plans told Bloomberg that
<v Speaker 1>PS five games have not sold well on the platform.
<v Speaker 1>They also said PC port's risk damaging the console's brand
<v Speaker 1>and could hurt sales of the PS five and its successors.
<v Speaker 1>A spokesperson for PlayStation declined to provide comment to Bloomberg Online. Games,
<v Speaker 1>including Marathon and Marvel Tokon Fighting Souls are still expected
<v Speaker 1>to launch across multiple platforms. Sony previously published Helldivers two
<v Speaker 1>on PC at launch. Unlike its single player titles, which
<v Speaker 1>have longer periods of exclusivity, Ghost of Vota and Housemark's
<v Speaker 1>upcoming action title Sorrows are reportedly staying exclusive to PS five.
<v Speaker 1>The one caveat here is stuff like Death Stranding two
<v Speaker 1>on the Beach and Kana Scars of Cosmora. These games
<v Speaker 1>that are like external studios, but Sony's publishing them, publishing
<v Speaker 1>them on the PlayStation, those.
<v Speaker 3>Will go to PC.
<v Speaker 1>So those are the exception here, Okay, Jane, it seems
<v Speaker 1>to come down to this. They're saying that it comes
<v Speaker 1>down to, oh, some of these games didn't sell very
<v Speaker 1>well on PC, and I.
<v Speaker 3>Bet It's like, yeah, I'm sure that's part of it.
<v Speaker 1>But like all along they were saying, hey, we do
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of work, and it's like printing money
<v Speaker 1>no matter how much it sells on PC. Kind of,
<v Speaker 1>it's like, I bet most of those projects did recoup
<v Speaker 1>their cost. I would be surprised if none of if,
<v Speaker 1>like any one of them did not. But it also
<v Speaker 1>feels like and I saw Matt Piscatelli saying this on
<v Speaker 1>social media that it kind of feels like, oh, there
<v Speaker 1>was a conversation with the executives about let's change some
<v Speaker 1>things up in the future, let's restructure the way that
<v Speaker 1>we measure our success, and that require them to come
<v Speaker 1>up with new strategies that are different from the old strategies.
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, ah, we're just gonna go back to
<v Speaker 1>the old way of doing things for a bit. I'll
<v Speaker 1>tell you what, this doesn't feel very permanent to me.
<v Speaker 1>I think when they do this for a handful of games,
<v Speaker 1>they wait till we get on the other side of
<v Speaker 1>Grand Theft Auto six. Maybe they wait till, you know,
<v Speaker 1>the early days of PlayStation six and then PS five
<v Speaker 1>games begin coming to PC again. There's nothing says that
<v Speaker 1>in the reporting. That's just the sense I get. What
<v Speaker 1>do you think?
<v Speaker 2>I just think that this is an odd decision to
<v Speaker 2>make when you are trying to appeal to a larger, broader,
<v Speaker 2>as much of an audience as possible, And I don't
<v Speaker 2>think it is a two way street for PC players
<v Speaker 2>that have been on the PC for an extended period
<v Speaker 2>of time to go back to consoles for as much
<v Speaker 2>as it is for console players to eventually get onto
<v Speaker 2>that on ramp to become and also join like the
<v Speaker 2>PC ecosystem yea. And it just feels like a difficult adjustment.
<v Speaker 2>And for me personally, like I have, I much rather
<v Speaker 2>prefer playing things on a PC, just due to the
<v Speaker 2>nature of our jobs because everything is centrally located, and
<v Speaker 2>also I can do other things on my computer at
<v Speaker 2>the same time versus a console which is just going
<v Speaker 2>to play games. And for some people that's that's enough
<v Speaker 2>for them. It just I and I see folks in
<v Speaker 2>our chat saying some of the PC ports were bad
<v Speaker 2>or just really really start on launch. Ye yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I Financially, it doesn't make sense to me. Even if
<v Speaker 2>they weren't selling insane amounts of copies, you were still
<v Speaker 2>selling copies. You were still selling uh And like you said, Grub,
<v Speaker 2>they probably recouped their cost of whatever it took to
<v Speaker 2>port them over to the PC. I don't. It just
<v Speaker 2>baffles me. I just don't understand it, especially like Grub,
<v Speaker 2>like hell Divers too, was a runaway success, and part
<v Speaker 2>of that was being available everywhere, right.
<v Speaker 3>And it's like, yeah, that's that was day one.
<v Speaker 1>That's one of the differences there and the multiplayer multiplayer
<v Speaker 1>games like Hell Divers Too. Doesn't sound like anything's gonna change.
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna keep releasing those, probably on day one on
<v Speaker 1>PC and PlayStation. But I think what you're getting at
<v Speaker 1>what I took away from that is it seemed like
<v Speaker 1>Hell Divers Too specifically benefited from being day one on
<v Speaker 1>both consoles and sold more because are both the platforms
<v Speaker 1>and sold more because of it. And it's like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>why not use that data and extrapolate from there? And
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, part of this comes down to
<v Speaker 1>they still are trying to sell a console. They make
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money from people purchasing micro micro transactions
<v Speaker 1>on that console, and they're probably not like losing a
<v Speaker 1>lot of players from PlayStation to PC, but they're probably
<v Speaker 1>losing some as part of this. And then are they
<v Speaker 1>gaining any PC users back to PlayStation? As you said,
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really like it feels like the water flows more
<v Speaker 1>one way than the other. There's also the side of
<v Speaker 1>it that like these games, like I have a list
<v Speaker 1>of the games that came to PC from PlayStation recently
<v Speaker 1>and it's Horizon God of War.
<v Speaker 3>Both Horizons a.
<v Speaker 1>God of War both Spider Man's all three Spider Mans,
<v Speaker 1>I think all three vidaments at this point the last
<v Speaker 1>of US Part one at least, I think Part two
<v Speaker 1>might have came to PC at this point, Uncharted, a
<v Speaker 1>Ghost of Sushima, Ratchet and Clank, Returnal Days Gone Hell,
<v Speaker 1>Divers one and two, the Destraining game, sack Boy, and
<v Speaker 1>then they like the MLB games, they published that Predator
<v Speaker 1>Hunting Grounds game. I bet a lot of these did
<v Speaker 1>pretty well. Did any of them do it like extraordinarily well?
<v Speaker 1>I think Ghost of Sushima apparently did very well on PC.
<v Speaker 1>I bet the Spider Man games did very well on PC.
<v Speaker 1>At a certain point, they do run out of those
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, okay, we have ones that are lesser then,
<v Speaker 1>and I do remember games like Ratchet and Clank sort
<v Speaker 1>of landing with a thud on PC, and like Sackboy,
<v Speaker 1>like didn't do anything at all on PC. And I
<v Speaker 1>bet PlayStation looks at it. It looks at this and it's like,
<v Speaker 1>we are making money on PC, but we have to
<v Speaker 1>give up thirty percent to Steam and then and then
<v Speaker 1>on top of that, we kind of lose the luster,
<v Speaker 1>the magic of what these exclusives do when they're just
<v Speaker 1>on PlayStation. When sac Boys on Steam, it's just another
<v Speaker 1>video game. When it's just on PlayStation, it's one more
<v Speaker 1>game on the list that people can look to and say,
<v Speaker 1>this is one of those things that makes me feel
<v Speaker 1>special as a PlayStation owner and that I can use
<v Speaker 1>to justify my purchase or to feel good about it.
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, there's that's kind of like an X
<v Speaker 1>factor is that I bet PlayStation is aware of and
<v Speaker 1>didn't like wanted to see, like, hey, are we going
<v Speaker 1>to lose any of that luster if we put these
<v Speaker 1>things on PC? And I bet they feel like a
<v Speaker 1>little bit like maybe not. But there's a potential that
<v Speaker 1>that stuff erodes slowly over time. And that is why
<v Speaker 1>jan that I think that this is probably temporary, because
<v Speaker 1>there's only so long that you look at that X
<v Speaker 1>factor before it goes back to But we make more
<v Speaker 1>money if we put it in more places, So I
<v Speaker 1>bet they flip back in five to six years, if
<v Speaker 1>even that long again.
<v Speaker 3>Does that sound right?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the calculus that's playing out in my head, grub.
<v Speaker 2>I think ultimately it the math is going to look
<v Speaker 2>a certain way where it will be more profitable to
<v Speaker 2>be on as many places as possible. We always see
<v Speaker 2>something similar with like meet other media TVs and TV
<v Speaker 2>shows and movies, where they will be on one streaming
<v Speaker 2>service and then quickly be spread out onto multiple stuff
<v Speaker 2>like certain anime gets spread out across not just like
<v Speaker 2>a crunchy role, but then it gets put onto Hulu
<v Speaker 2>or Netflix because it's trying to reach as wide of
<v Speaker 2>an audience as possible. An interesting take that I saw
<v Speaker 2>as I was scrolling through the internet earlier today, Greb.
<v Speaker 2>When this news broke, people are bringing up the possibility
<v Speaker 2>that Sony doesn't quite enjoy that these games, at least
<v Speaker 2>after they've gone through the initial like rough parts of
<v Speaker 2>being pourted over, they generally will look better on a PC,
<v Speaker 2>and that is kind of like hurting that may potentially
<v Speaker 2>hurt PlayStation HQ because like, oh, these games look better
<v Speaker 2>there than they do on our actual consoles. And do
<v Speaker 2>you think that at all factors into any of that decision?
<v Speaker 2>Does it perhaps like they're trying to rain everyone in
<v Speaker 2>before a PS six eventually comes out and tempering those
<v Speaker 2>expectations of like, hey, this is what you should expect
<v Speaker 2>here because they're trying to control the narrative and that
<v Speaker 2>like you can't see what it could potentially look better
<v Speaker 2>as over there on a PC because it's only here
<v Speaker 2>on PlayStation.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean there's probably probably something to that, especially
<v Speaker 1>like considering it sounds like they're going to launch the
<v Speaker 1>PS six with a handheld PlayStation as well that'll be
<v Speaker 1>reduced in power, and I bet they want to make
<v Speaker 1>that feel special as well, and they don't want to
<v Speaker 1>have the comparisons to these other PC handhelds that will
<v Speaker 1>certainly certainly keep coming out and getting more powerful and
<v Speaker 1>could by the time the PS six handheld launches, could
<v Speaker 1>be a handheld PC that looks that makes those games
<v Speaker 1>run way better, and that would that would be a
<v Speaker 1>tough point of comparison, cause i the pricing is going
<v Speaker 1>to be pretty similar across all of those. Yeah, I
<v Speaker 1>think they want to navigate this in a silo a
<v Speaker 1>little bit.
<v Speaker 2>Like the Steam Machine now also has to factor into
<v Speaker 2>all these console manufacturer's plans, right, because that is a
<v Speaker 2>huge library that some of their games are also going
<v Speaker 2>to be available on. Right, Like, you could play Ghost
<v Speaker 2>of Tsushima on the Steam Machine and it could look
<v Speaker 2>theoretically maybe better than a PS five right now.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's like there are a lot of these
<v Speaker 1>specific changes we keep bringing up and all these things
<v Speaker 1>in the market that are like, oh, I wonder how
<v Speaker 1>that's going to shake out. And I bet it's more
<v Speaker 1>that of like PlayStation is like the rest of us, like,
<v Speaker 1>oh man, things are changing fast in the gaming market.
<v Speaker 1>People's you know, because consumer behavior, our ability to like
<v Speaker 1>sort of re engage these consumers that have maybe grown
<v Speaker 1>frustrated or bored by gaming as it's kind of stagnated
<v Speaker 1>there at least the games that they were engaging with.
<v Speaker 1>And we're not sure how these things are going to
<v Speaker 1>shake out. What is going to happen with Linux on
<v Speaker 1>PC and like we're driven by Steam and what is
<v Speaker 1>going to happen with these handhelds, and what's going to
<v Speaker 1>happen with our hardware, and what's gonna happen with RAM prices.
<v Speaker 3>I bet like this this feels like.
<v Speaker 1>Going to ground a little bit, just retreating and being
<v Speaker 1>like we can re establish this program, no problem. Like
<v Speaker 1>if we just keep pushing forward, though, it kind of
<v Speaker 1>limits our ability to like to adapt to whatever does
<v Speaker 1>happen next. And we know we're safe and secure in
<v Speaker 1>our own walled garden because we've done that for a
<v Speaker 1>very long time, and any sort of efforts we make
<v Speaker 1>in that space is going to pay dividends toward improving
<v Speaker 1>our brand, improving our ability to make revenue by having
<v Speaker 1>more people getting into PlayStation or what have you. It's
<v Speaker 1>you know, grand Theft Auto six Really is this massive
<v Speaker 1>thing that is like going to sell a ton of PlayStations. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and they probably just want to see what that world
<v Speaker 1>looks like right after that, and then I bet things
<v Speaker 1>fall into place for them in terms of developing their strategy.
<v Speaker 2>It's I think I've grown to have a little bit
<v Speaker 2>of friction that GTA six will save the industry.
<v Speaker 3>It's not going to save any it's just going to
<v Speaker 3>change it for sure.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, it is going to drastically change things. Who knew?
<v Speaker 2>Grub that an innocuous question of to Asha Shurma Sharma
<v Speaker 2>of like do you want to bring back console exclusives,
<v Speaker 2>and then her maybe misunderstanding the question or not having
<v Speaker 2>full context of answering the question would lead to this.
<v Speaker 1>Here we are, Yeah, I think, and things are just
<v Speaker 1>gonna keep get being weird in this industry and this.
<v Speaker 2>Is part of that, Grub So sorry if I miss it,
<v Speaker 2>But multiplayer games are not going to be included in this.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, like it sounds like what happened with Hell
<v Speaker 1>Divers is going to continue happening with Marathon and then
<v Speaker 1>Marvel Token Fighting Souls, and the implication being any future
<v Speaker 1>online multiplayer games will continue to be treated just like
<v Speaker 1>Hell Divers was.
<v Speaker 2>So because, like with the strategy that Sony has been
<v Speaker 2>taking of live service games, it would feel like you're
<v Speaker 2>instantly kneecapping a game's performance right out the gate, if
<v Speaker 2>you are like cutting out that PC market.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, yep, yeah, And it's again that's another thing.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, so yeah, they're not going all out about
<v Speaker 1>retreating to PlayStation. This is a sort of limited retreat
<v Speaker 1>and I bet they come back into the space in
<v Speaker 1>a few years, if not sooner.
<v Speaker 3>All right, next story.
<v Speaker 1>Three months after closing the Game Awards, High Guard is
<v Speaker 1>officially shutting down.
<v Speaker 3>This is from Andy Robinson at.
<v Speaker 1>VGC Troubled free to play shooter High Guard is officially
<v Speaker 1>shutting down little over six weeks after its high profile launch.
<v Speaker 1>Developer Wildlife Entertainment has confirmed High Guard launched on January
<v Speaker 1>twenty sixth, following its bold announcement at the Game Awards
<v Speaker 1>in December, but despite initially reaching millions of players according
<v Speaker 1>to its developers, developer player numbers of Yeah, player numbers
<v Speaker 1>quickly plummeted, and wild Light laid off most of its
<v Speaker 1>development team in the aftermath. Now, the California based studio
<v Speaker 1>is confirmed that High Guard will shut down entirely on
<v Speaker 1>March twelfth. In an updated post on social media, it
<v Speaker 1>said that the game had not been able to attract
<v Speaker 1>enough players to sustain development long term. One final update
<v Speaker 1>will be released this week. It said that's going to
<v Speaker 1>have like a new character and account level progression and
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. It's like, it sounds like people on
<v Speaker 1>that team were trying to get things ready for a
<v Speaker 1>future and this game just didn't really have one.
<v Speaker 3>And here we are.
<v Speaker 1>So you know, the real story here is the game
<v Speaker 1>came out, got some players, not enough to meet the
<v Speaker 1>minimum threshold for ten Cent to come in with more money,
<v Speaker 1>and once that money was not there, the game was
<v Speaker 1>immediately sort of unviable. They laid a bunch of people off,
<v Speaker 1>maybe thinking if we're more streamlined, maybe we can get
<v Speaker 1>Probably they probably thought maybe we can get some investment
<v Speaker 1>from somewhere else. Well, no one's investing in games right now,
<v Speaker 1>especially not one like this that it's down on the mat.
<v Speaker 3>And there's kind of no choice here.
<v Speaker 1>There's just not gonna be enough money to make this
<v Speaker 1>game makes sense, like over the next several years as
<v Speaker 1>it would take to probably to recoup it, and it
<v Speaker 1>would that even be worth it in.
<v Speaker 3>The first place.
<v Speaker 1>So here we are felt like inevitable. As soon as
<v Speaker 1>that game launched the way it did. What do you think, jan,
<v Speaker 1>I was.
<v Speaker 2>Really unfortunate, grub, And it's been unfortunate right out the
<v Speaker 2>gate for the High Guard team. You know, having that
<v Speaker 2>last spot at the game Awards unfortunately did not help
<v Speaker 2>it out in public perception. It definitely did draw people
<v Speaker 2>to it just out of morbid curiosity, but like right
<v Speaker 2>out the jump, right out the gate, Grub playing the
<v Speaker 2>game definitely wasn't for me. I don't think we as
<v Speaker 2>a as a team necessarily meshed well with it either. Also,
<v Speaker 2>it's just such a busy, crowded space that how are
<v Speaker 2>you expecting to compete if you were not like tied
<v Speaker 2>to an ip already, if even like these these big
<v Speaker 2>players in the game are failing to get a foothold.
<v Speaker 2>And the unfortunate part is that when you were tied
<v Speaker 2>to tencent like this, and Tencent is not seeing the
<v Speaker 2>immediate return, which is an insane idea to have an
<v Speaker 2>immediate return on a game like this in this specific genre,
<v Speaker 2>the rug is going to get pulled from underneath you.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, yeah, And it's uh, you know, it probably was
<v Speaker 1>not the game that the bet was made thinking it
<v Speaker 1>would be once it launched. But it's like, oh yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you probably should have had a different strategy for this
<v Speaker 1>in the first place. Give it a chance to build
<v Speaker 1>up slowly, and it's like, no, we can replicate what
<v Speaker 1>happened with Apex Legends and it's like that was I mean,
<v Speaker 1>what was it twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen for that?
<v Speaker 3>That was a while ago. World too, very very different world. Absolutely.
<v Speaker 1>In the super chat here, Boat Knight says, will the
<v Speaker 1>one more thing at the Game Awards be awkward?
<v Speaker 3>Now?
<v Speaker 1>Jan, It's certainly going to be something that Jeff Uiely,
<v Speaker 1>I'll say this about him, He always responds to the
<v Speaker 1>biggest criticism and the loudest voices about what could be
<v Speaker 1>better about his shows, and he continues to continues to
<v Speaker 1>get a lot of shit for this, and people still
<v Speaker 1>don't believe that that he just liked the game and
<v Speaker 1>liked the studio and wanted to give them the last
<v Speaker 1>slot because he's like, this would be cool, and it's like,
<v Speaker 1>you guys just don't know. Jeff Keeley, of course he
<v Speaker 1>would do that. That's an LA studio. He's probably close
<v Speaker 1>with a lot of those people. Yeah, he really likes
<v Speaker 1>having this celebrity. He likes making money, yes, but he
<v Speaker 1>really likes like throwing his weight around and being like,
<v Speaker 1>I can be a taste maker here. And just because
<v Speaker 1>he was off here doesn't mean there was some other
<v Speaker 1>weird conspiracy in the background. A lot of those people,
<v Speaker 1>a lot of those companies do pay for spots that
<v Speaker 1>one like this happens almost just as frequently where he
<v Speaker 1>Ley's like, I'm gonna pick a game and put it
<v Speaker 1>in this show, Jen, I think so. I think it's
<v Speaker 1>gonna be something where Jeff Keelly's really gonna have to
<v Speaker 1>like shake things up and re establish what that one
<v Speaker 1>more thing looks like in the future so that he
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to deal with this again.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And the unfortunate part, Crub is that moving forwards,
<v Speaker 2>it's going to follow the game that is in that
<v Speaker 2>one last thing or one more thing spot, no matter
<v Speaker 2>if it is tied to like a big, gigantic IP,
<v Speaker 2>because now it's going to feel like it is like
<v Speaker 2>a target on its back.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's probably a handful of like publishers and games
<v Speaker 1>that's like can withstand that no matter what, But sure,
<v Speaker 1>unknown property.
<v Speaker 3>I would be terrified of that spot going forward. It
<v Speaker 3>feels almost cursed.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I Colonel Sanders in the Twitch chat he's going
<v Speaker 2>to convince Valve to shadow drop Half Life three after
<v Speaker 2>the awards this year. And Valve doesn't need to do that.
<v Speaker 2>They don't need to occupy that spot during the Game Awards.
<v Speaker 2>But also even a big publisher like Valve, I could
<v Speaker 2>see them kind of just wanting to not get that
<v Speaker 2>type of attention that way, or get that type.
<v Speaker 3>Of right, just control everything themselves, right, it's just right.
<v Speaker 1>You never know when that weird little kid from that
<v Speaker 1>podcast is going to bust onto the stage and start
<v Speaker 1>talking about as Rabbi Bill Clinton. You got to just
<v Speaker 1>lock those things down yourself.
<v Speaker 2>I hope that kid falls down some stairs.
<v Speaker 3>He's weird.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, So I Guard is done, yeah real quick,
<v Speaker 1>like now we have fair games still to come. Marathon
<v Speaker 1>is launching this week jan Yeah, you know, I saw
<v Speaker 1>a post on Twitter. I think it was from someone
<v Speaker 1>who was like looking at the numbers and it was like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>based on you know, wish lists and the publicly available
<v Speaker 1>data data on steam dB, looks like this game's heading
<v Speaker 1>for about you know, at least one hundred thousand sales
<v Speaker 1>early on on Steam and forty thousand plus concurrent peak
<v Speaker 1>players on Steam this weekend. And so oh, that's a
<v Speaker 1>game that took years and years to make at a
<v Speaker 1>very expensive studio. It's probably another one of these one
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty to two hundred and fifty million dollars games.
<v Speaker 1>It needs to sell seven to eleven million copies to
<v Speaker 1>really recoup.
<v Speaker 3>The recoup all that make it make sense.
<v Speaker 1>Feels like it's all long way from doing that, and
<v Speaker 1>then fair Games is off on the horizon if that
<v Speaker 1>ever even comes out. How you feeling about this space
<v Speaker 1>across the board?
<v Speaker 2>I really want it to succeed Grub, just for the
<v Speaker 2>sheer sake of the industry and the team that's been
<v Speaker 2>working on Marathon for years. At this point, like it's
<v Speaker 2>wild to think Grub that, Like, I'm I'm not one
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent sure how long High Guard took in development,
<v Speaker 2>but to think that within three months, maybe more than
<v Speaker 2>three years worth of work and just go out the window.
<v Speaker 2>And I hope that Marathon will find its audience, and
<v Speaker 2>I hope that maybe the popularity of a game like
<v Speaker 2>Arc Raiders will translate over and that hopefully Marathon could
<v Speaker 2>be the next cool thing. Again, definitely not my type
<v Speaker 2>of game. It's going to be one of those games
<v Speaker 2>that I'm happy to check out with everyone here on
<v Speaker 2>Giant Bomb, and I hope it winds up being sticky
<v Speaker 2>for me for other people if forty dollars unfortunately is
<v Speaker 2>a big barrier of entry for some folks when you
<v Speaker 2>can have a free to play game, but I hope
<v Speaker 2>that that is enough or low enough for some people
<v Speaker 2>to just take the chance.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, exactly. It's a weird space overall. It does feel
<v Speaker 1>like low tide for it, and I bet a lot
<v Speaker 1>of publishers take time to reset and maybe come back
<v Speaker 1>into it with fresh ideas. But for now, it's like
<v Speaker 1>I would treat it like a third rail. It's just
<v Speaker 1>like it seems dangerous out there. Let's keep our heads down, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>we are going to take a break when we come back,
<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk about the US government maybe going
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<v Speaker 3>Right, We're back.
<v Speaker 1>It's Game mess Mornings, Janachoa, Jeff Grubb. Ten cents role
<v Speaker 1>in US gaming market faces political uncertainty. This is from
<v Speaker 1>Darren Bamtthus at GameSpot, ten cent stakes in various American
<v Speaker 1>video game companies could be at risk as US President
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump's administration is debating whether the Chinese companies investment.
<v Speaker 3>Poses a security risk.
<v Speaker 1>According to The Financial Times and Reuters, several people familiar
<v Speaker 1>with the internal deliberations are assessing ten Cents of investments
<v Speaker 1>ahead of Trump's upcoming meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping
<v Speaker 1>next month. The Financial Times sources added that Tencent has
<v Speaker 1>been negotiating with the US Administration's Committee on Foreign Investments
<v Speaker 1>for years now, but the acquisition of Clash of Clan
<v Speaker 1>studio Supercell, which has a huge US user base, reignited
<v Speaker 1>fears surrounding the company. Tencent is well known for having
<v Speaker 1>invested in many video game companies across the world, including
<v Speaker 1>a twenty eight percent stake in fortnitemaker Epic. It also
<v Speaker 1>owns Riot Games, which makes the League of Legends and Valorant,
<v Speaker 1>and has stakes in other notable video game companies like
<v Speaker 1>from Software, Crafton, Larry and Studios, and Ubisoft. The scrutiny
<v Speaker 1>from the US government started with former US President Joe
<v Speaker 1>Biden's administration, as concerns were raised regarding the collection of
<v Speaker 1>private information from millions of US citizens and ten cents
<v Speaker 1>ties to the Chinese military.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, look I get it.
<v Speaker 1>Tencent is this this monolith and clearly has a lot
<v Speaker 1>of unfair advantages based on its relationship to its own
<v Speaker 1>government and how that insulates it in a way because
<v Speaker 1>like not a lot of other companies can go into
<v Speaker 1>that market and compete with Tencent. So Tencent has this
<v Speaker 1>just massive protected user base that gives it gives it
<v Speaker 1>a ton of money that it can then wheeld around
<v Speaker 1>the world, and it can make demands and it can
<v Speaker 1>make like you know, can't maybe it's not outright saying, hey,
<v Speaker 1>you can't do this kind of speech in your game,
<v Speaker 1>but if people want to make that money, it might
<v Speaker 1>freeze or put sort of a cooling effect.
<v Speaker 3>On that kind of speech.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure, okay, and that stuff we will continue to criticize.
<v Speaker 2>That is.
<v Speaker 1>The motivations here are the same they were for the
<v Speaker 1>TikTok thing, where it's like, let's control this stuff and
<v Speaker 1>take it away from we don't want Chinese propaganda or whatever.
<v Speaker 1>And this industry is looking around being like, we haven't
<v Speaker 1>seen a lot of that Chinese propaganda in the games.
<v Speaker 1>What we have seen is a lot of money propping
<v Speaker 1>up a lot of people's jobs.
<v Speaker 3>And are you just going.
<v Speaker 1>To force Larry Ellison to come in here and buy
<v Speaker 1>this stuff as well? And we have to sit around
<v Speaker 1>hoping that they don't fuck it up the way that
<v Speaker 1>they fucked up TikTok. And now, like it's not just
<v Speaker 1>like TikTok in this situation. It's dozens of studios across
<v Speaker 1>the industry and tens of thousands of jobs, and this
<v Speaker 1>is like one.
<v Speaker 3>Of the places, like you got to think about it.
<v Speaker 1>As a market everybody where it's like you have a
<v Speaker 1>product that you're trying to get out in the world
<v Speaker 1>and you are competing for potential investment, and having at
<v Speaker 1>least one big investor they're still spending money, makes it
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more likely that you can pit them
<v Speaker 1>against one other potential investor maybe get more money or
<v Speaker 1>increase your value and have enough resources to actually produce games.
<v Speaker 1>This feels like it will certainly put a freezing effect
<v Speaker 1>on the way that people go about trying to get
<v Speaker 1>their games funded and maybe make it completely impossible for
<v Speaker 1>them to do so.
<v Speaker 2>Jan it's you know, I was going to say it's
<v Speaker 2>wild then the year twenty twenty six, we still have
<v Speaker 2>this gigantic anti Chinese sentiment going around, but then I realized, no,
<v Speaker 2>it's twenty twenty six. It's not wild for that, especially
<v Speaker 2>given the current administration where there are fear mongering that
<v Speaker 2>the Chinese have all of our data and that they
<v Speaker 2>can't have it. So that's why we had to take
<v Speaker 2>buy TikTok. But it's okay if we have all the
<v Speaker 2>year made. Yes, I can hear you. Okay, you froze
<v Speaker 2>for me for a second, but I think it's probably
<v Speaker 2>all right. The government they're after me, but it's Okay, hey,
<v Speaker 2>if the American government has access to all of that
<v Speaker 2>and can sell that data to whoever they want to.
<v Speaker 2>And this stupid fucking sentiment that like, oh, the Chinese
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna have all of this stuff and they're gonna
<v Speaker 2>start breeding all this propaganda in our video games. You
<v Speaker 2>stupid Fox, You're already doing it yourselves.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, there's just that report this week that the you know,
<v Speaker 1>the US government, which is long time been the biggest
<v Speaker 1>purchaser of our advertising data, had ice use that data
<v Speaker 1>to track people. Like the thought here that they are
<v Speaker 1>protecting us from anything is a joke and like and
<v Speaker 1>it's like, if the China is going to have our data, well,
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're gonna have our data regardless. I know
<v Speaker 1>it's nihilistic, but they're gonna have our data regardless. I
<v Speaker 1>still would like some developers to be able to get
<v Speaker 1>some money out of all this so they can make
<v Speaker 1>some games.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, one hundred percent. I by no means am
<v Speaker 2>I defending ten cent at all? Uh, But at least
<v Speaker 2>they are giving money and funding games. And I know
<v Speaker 2>the runway isn't as long or as great as it
<v Speaker 2>should be, but they're still funding games versus whatever fucking
<v Speaker 2>crapshoot we have over here Grub where they don't fucking
<v Speaker 2>know what they're doing, and they haven't known what they're doing,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know for me personally, Grub. It also just
<v Speaker 2>really bugs me because after leaving being now on the
<v Speaker 2>other side of the pandemic, how we're removed, we are
<v Speaker 2>from COVID nineteen gigantic anti Chinese sentiment, anti Asian sentiment,
<v Speaker 2>and then for them to continue feeding this fire of
<v Speaker 2>like anti Chinese, anti Asian, who knows who they're going
<v Speaker 2>to fucking go up against now and try and continue
<v Speaker 2>more hate speech. It's fucking stupid and it sickens me. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I hope they do. Maybe shouldn't have said that.
<v Speaker 3>But no, I'm with you. They know they can.
<v Speaker 1>Get away with it because of the bigotry that's built
<v Speaker 1>in Like if they try to do this to a
<v Speaker 1>lot of other like if they tried to do this
<v Speaker 1>to European company, everyone be like, what are you doing?
<v Speaker 1>But because the bigotry is built in here, they can
<v Speaker 1>get away with a lot more. They can just do
<v Speaker 1>the MSG MSG playbook where it's like, let's make it
<v Speaker 1>scary and we'll go from there. It's it is funny
<v Speaker 1>to watch this like past two weeks, like China got
<v Speaker 1>real quiet, like, hey, if your if your enemy is
<v Speaker 1>destroying themselves, do not interrupt, just you know, get real
<v Speaker 1>quiet and let them fuck up. And hey, it's working
<v Speaker 1>out really well for them as we continue to just
<v Speaker 1>unravel any sort of power that we have. It's absurd. Look,
<v Speaker 1>this is one of those things where you go, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>they talk about this, do they really do it? But
<v Speaker 1>you know, they often do follow through with these crazy
<v Speaker 1>ideas in this government, so we could We'll see how
<v Speaker 1>this plays out. It's just as likely that they lose
<v Speaker 1>political power, they lose political sort of capital as we
<v Speaker 1>get closer to the terms and stuff like that, or
<v Speaker 1>get through the midterms, if such a thing even happens. Uh,
<v Speaker 1>and then they kind of like loose focus on this.
<v Speaker 1>But in the meantime, this feels like it could go
<v Speaker 1>through at any minute.
<v Speaker 2>The thing that I'm curious to see is that if
<v Speaker 2>any of these people that are still supporting and propping
<v Speaker 2>up this administration that are like you know, the normal person,
<v Speaker 2>do they not And the answer is probably no, But
<v Speaker 2>do they not see that all this is motivated? So
<v Speaker 2>they can line their own pockets, right, is this of course?
<v Speaker 2>Is this gonna go to Larry Elson? Is gonna go
<v Speaker 2>to Kushner? Who's this going to go? Of course? Within
<v Speaker 2>like this fucking family tree.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, it's it's uh, it's you know, beyond crony capitalism.
<v Speaker 1>It's just straight up a mob family running the government
<v Speaker 1>and throwing it like it would be a shame if
<v Speaker 1>something were to happen to your video games, wouldn't Everybody,
<v Speaker 1>don't worry.
<v Speaker 3>We'll protect you from the bad guys. Just you. We
<v Speaker 3>got to get it instead.
<v Speaker 2>Like Greb, this is like I don't have a tinfoil
<v Speaker 2>hat on here, but and the playbook is already out there, gang,
<v Speaker 2>but they're already taking away your adult entertainment. They're going
<v Speaker 2>to start controlling the regular entertainment. And now this is
<v Speaker 2>a different third prong approach to control the narrative, or
<v Speaker 2>start to control the narrative of video games.
<v Speaker 3>Yep.
<v Speaker 1>It's all like different pinpoints on the timeline to fascism.
<v Speaker 1>It's like and it's all it all fits in there.
<v Speaker 1>It's another way of controlling media. They want full control
<v Speaker 1>of that. I mean, they've made that very very clear.
<v Speaker 1>Any sort of descent against them is something to be
<v Speaker 1>punished and overtaken and purchased by Larry Ellison.
<v Speaker 2>Go vote, definitely, please go vote. If you're in America,
<v Speaker 2>I mean wherever you are, go vote.
<v Speaker 1>To All right, let's keep going here. The studio that
<v Speaker 1>worked on Fallout denies it's behind a New Vegas remaster.
<v Speaker 1>This is from Eddie McCoo at GameSpot. Developer Iron Galaxy
<v Speaker 1>has denied reports that it's working on a remaster of
<v Speaker 1>Fallout New Vegas, though it's widely expected such a game
<v Speaker 1>is indeed in the works. In a social media post,
<v Speaker 1>the studio said Nope, there is nothing to see here
<v Speaker 1>in regards to the claim that Iron Galaxy was possibly
<v Speaker 1>working on a new Fallout project. The rumor stemmed from
<v Speaker 1>a February twenty sixth post from Iron Galaxy that showed
<v Speaker 1>Fallout New Vegas is please stand by loading screen. It's
<v Speaker 1>basically like them saying, hey we are They said, today's
<v Speaker 1>our February company meeting. It's time to catch up with
<v Speaker 1>what the company's been up to and what's coming up
<v Speaker 1>next for Iron Galaxy. And then they had an image
<v Speaker 1>of someone's desktop computer and it's two screens on one
<v Speaker 1>screen is the big New Vegas please stand by loading screen.
<v Speaker 1>And on the other screen is that in like a
<v Speaker 1>streaming window or something like that. I can't tell, maybe
<v Speaker 1>an editor of some sort, but it's that again. Basically,
<v Speaker 1>it's the focal point of the shot. Like it feels like, Hey,
<v Speaker 1>we are trying to say something with this now. When
<v Speaker 1>we talked about this on the BombCast jan before they
<v Speaker 1>had any sort of thing follow up to say, it
<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, it would be weird for them to
<v Speaker 1>tease fallout this way, for Iron Galaxy to have the
<v Speaker 1>go ahead from Microsoft and Pathesda to take this sort
<v Speaker 1>of teasing into their own hands, because otherwise it just
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't happen. But on the other hand, it would be
<v Speaker 1>weird for them to tease this and for it not
<v Speaker 1>to be true because they clearly know people will make
<v Speaker 1>this the assumption here. Why would they do that now
<v Speaker 1>they've said, Nope, there's nothing to see here.
<v Speaker 3>Do you think there's nothing to see here?
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe this man.
<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't know if I believe him.
<v Speaker 2>He's too tall to be truthful all the time.
<v Speaker 3>He's got to be jam packed with lies to get that.
<v Speaker 2>Ht this man has too much sauce.
<v Speaker 1>He he's Dave Lang's we're talking about everybody. Yes, the
<v Speaker 1>guy in charge of Iron Galaxy. I know Annam Boys
<v Speaker 1>was a co CEO and Anam Boys left a little
<v Speaker 1>bit ago. But yeah, I look fall Out New Vegas.
<v Speaker 1>There is probably something happening with that. They have done
<v Speaker 1>a an Oblivion remaster. The obvious next thing for them
<v Speaker 1>to do, he is a Fallout three remaster, but Fallout
<v Speaker 1>New Vegas is the same engine as well.
<v Speaker 3>The work that they've done on.
<v Speaker 1>These other two projects, they like very likely are doing
<v Speaker 1>Fallout three. Like right now, we'll just go right into
<v Speaker 1>Fallout New Vegas. And yeah, Iron Douxy has worked on
<v Speaker 1>Fallout before, right, I know I read that earlier.
<v Speaker 2>I just want to say they have. Yes.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's like, yeah, it could It's easy to
<v Speaker 1>see it. Maybe they've done that. I guess they worked
<v Speaker 1>on Fallout seventy six and fall Out four VR.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So is this.
<v Speaker 2>A case of like NDA's getting mixed up?
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps maybe like that there could be more like it
<v Speaker 1>could be them just being like this is something that's
<v Speaker 1>already been publicly announced, and we're just kind of reminding
<v Speaker 1>everybody we're working on it, and it hadn't been.
<v Speaker 3>I doubt it. These things are usually pretty lockdown though.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna lie though, I would think this would
<v Speaker 2>be a hilarious power move from Dave Lang saying like,
<v Speaker 2>just let us do it. We'll do it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right.
<v Speaker 2>The best rumors are the ones you start yourselves, right.
<v Speaker 1>You can the secret manifesting. Dave Lang is definitely a
<v Speaker 1>secret guy, so that makes sense. Crimson Desert marketing director
<v Speaker 1>responds to review drama, We're not hiding anything. This is
<v Speaker 1>from Ethan Gotch at Kotaku. Crimson Desert has been on
<v Speaker 1>a slow rolling takeover of online gamer hype. Months of
<v Speaker 1>new footage and futures trickling out, capped off by a
<v Speaker 1>recent glowing pre release assessment by Digital Foundry, has players
<v Speaker 1>excited but also worried that the hyper polished looking, sprawling,
<v Speaker 1>open world adventure game from a studio known for MMOs
<v Speaker 1>might be too good to be true. Underlying that concern
<v Speaker 1>is the recent news that the review embargo for Crimson
<v Speaker 1>Desert is only twenty four hours before launch. That's pretty normal,
<v Speaker 1>and outlets that have received code have been told they
<v Speaker 1>can only get the PC version prompting people to ask,
<v Speaker 1>is this another Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven situation? Ah, I don't, look,
<v Speaker 1>it's possible, Jan right like that it's possible, But I
<v Speaker 1>don't think that one necessarily means the other. Sometimes it's
<v Speaker 1>just harder to get console code code because it takes
<v Speaker 1>longer to get the certification or whatever. We've had these
<v Speaker 1>conversations with PR and with these companies all the time,
<v Speaker 1>Hey can we get this, Like we don't have that yet, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and we might not until later. And my first assumption
<v Speaker 1>in those cases is there's something else going on, not
<v Speaker 1>that there's a Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven situation. I think
<v Speaker 1>the reason people are making that leap heer jen is
<v Speaker 1>this game does look incredible. It looks like next next gen.
<v Speaker 1>It looks like the promises of a lot of ideas
<v Speaker 1>of what gaming could be are coming together and what
<v Speaker 1>looks like a triple A package, and that's got people
<v Speaker 1>really excited. And it's usually like physics and all this stuff.
<v Speaker 1>It's just like kind of a super game in a
<v Speaker 1>lot of ways, and so it's like it does look
<v Speaker 1>too good to be true, making like you know, these
<v Speaker 1>kinds of conspiracy theories feel a little bit more plausible.
<v Speaker 1>That's it. There could be something here. I do want
<v Speaker 1>to see this thing running on console. Let's see what
<v Speaker 1>it really like looks like. I mean, until then, I
<v Speaker 1>would be somewhat skeptical. Just don't go and pre order
<v Speaker 1>the thing, I guess, but I'm going to wait until
<v Speaker 1>reviews before I really start jumping on this thing.
<v Speaker 3>What do you think grow.
<v Speaker 2>Who is this studio that is making this Again, I
<v Speaker 2>don't I wasn't familiar with them, but but I say
<v Speaker 2>that to bring up I don't know there's developmental talent
<v Speaker 2>around the world at this point. And yes, clearly maybe
<v Speaker 2>they're just if this is like one of their first games,
<v Speaker 2>they are not as ready to deal with like console
<v Speaker 2>codes as.
<v Speaker 1>And I think so they're they're the Black Desert Online developers.
<v Speaker 1>They have done MMOs, It's the name of the studio
<v Speaker 1>is Pearl Abyss. They've been around since twenty ten, but
<v Speaker 1>they've only done MMOs up to this point. Sure, so
<v Speaker 1>that and I think they've only done MMOs that at
<v Speaker 1>least first came out on PC. So yeah, this would
<v Speaker 1>be their first simultaneous release that there could be something
<v Speaker 1>to that where it's like we're used to doing things
<v Speaker 1>on PC. We know what to do there. We are
<v Speaker 1>sort of navigating the console stuff at launch for the
<v Speaker 1>first time, whereas before we had, you know, all the
<v Speaker 1>time in the world because we just ported things to
<v Speaker 1>console later. Yeah, I could see that being a reasonable
<v Speaker 1>explanation for what's happening here.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it is too crazy for a game
<v Speaker 2>to only have PC code available to reviewers the time window,
<v Speaker 2>and especially given the what looks like the I guess
<v Speaker 2>scope of the game. A little odd for sure, but
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It could be a weird sleeper hit.
<v Speaker 2>Someone in chap brought brought up that like Wu Kong
<v Speaker 2>was kind of a surprise and then like it was
<v Speaker 2>a runaway success as well, And.
<v Speaker 1>We've seen that a couple of times now, Yeah, from
<v Speaker 1>especially these studios that worked in mobile or mms before, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>shifting over to make it.
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna make a big boy console game.
<v Speaker 1>It's like cool, cool, Like you don't after you guys
<v Speaker 1>had your niche, But that's cool if that's what you
<v Speaker 1>want to do. And then they show up and it's like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>I see why that's what you wanted to do. You
<v Speaker 1>knew how to cook, and this game feels like that
<v Speaker 1>is what's happening here. Well, that's yeah, go.
<v Speaker 2>Ahead, Stellar Blade came am, I correct.
<v Speaker 3>An yea that they made those games before.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it is not the most insane leap in
<v Speaker 2>my head.
<v Speaker 1>Great, it's yeah, same, I'd say, I'm kind of expecting
<v Speaker 1>that at this point that this is going to be
<v Speaker 1>this year's one of those, and maybe the best one
<v Speaker 1>of those so far. I'm one of those being game
<v Speaker 1>that came from a studio wouldn't necessarily necessarily expect to
<v Speaker 1>release a game like this, and then it's like actually
<v Speaker 1>shockingly good and kind of takes over gaming hype for
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and that taking over gaming hype at
<v Speaker 1>least is happening. Will Powers, who is their marketing director
<v Speaker 1>for the game, wrote on Twitter saying we're not hiding
<v Speaker 1>anything and I'm sick of having to repeat myself. I've
<v Speaker 1>repeated hundreds of times that will reveal things ahead of
<v Speaker 1>launch to give people adequate time to still pre order
<v Speaker 1>the game for themselves. We're saying this openly, let us cook,
<v Speaker 1>please and thank you, and then the slash end of rant. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>Will Powers choke made a decision there to kind of
<v Speaker 1>come out swinging a little bit.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, does is it? Does that sound a
<v Speaker 3>little bit like vout out to protest too much or what?
<v Speaker 2>Uh? To an extent, Grub, I can understand the frustrations,
<v Speaker 2>especially of.
<v Speaker 3>Course having a deal with gamers of course.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, especially when people are expecting your doom before
<v Speaker 2>you even get out the gate. And maybe Crimson Desert
<v Speaker 2>is one of those games where it is it might
<v Speaker 2>be hard to explain or be able to parse out
<v Speaker 2>in a couple sentences or whatever, even like a preview
<v Speaker 2>of what this is all supposed to be, because I
<v Speaker 2>have like I'm watching the IGN's preview video that they
<v Speaker 2>posted about two or so hours ago, and I don't
<v Speaker 2>quite know what this game is either.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's I mean, that's another one of the things
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of characteristic of many of these games that
<v Speaker 1>like come from Asian developers that did other stuff. They
<v Speaker 1>throw everything into their games. It's like, wait, so what
<v Speaker 1>does this looks like an action adventure game? Oh, that's
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of cows on a conveyor belt.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I don't always know what's going on.
<v Speaker 2>And also, Grub, even if this doesn't resonate with anyone
<v Speaker 2>on our team or necessarily anyone in our audience. That
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that it is not going to be a
<v Speaker 2>huge smash hit.
<v Speaker 1>Oh Yeacause often often it means it will be a
<v Speaker 1>smash hit if none of us are paying attention to it.
<v Speaker 2>Like Wukong, none of us really jived with. But that
<v Speaker 2>was a huge game. What is it? Wuering Waves?
<v Speaker 3>What Wuthering Waves? Yes, it was.
<v Speaker 2>Another big hit that didn't resonate with us that much.
<v Speaker 2>And there was another one. It was a survival game
<v Speaker 2>I think also from a Korean studio where you had
<v Speaker 2>it looked like a death stranding. There was an umbilical
<v Speaker 2>cord or something. I forget what that one was called.
<v Speaker 1>Uh, yeah, I can't I can't remember either, but yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's uh, we'll see games out very soon. They probably
<v Speaker 1>do need to come out with some console stuff to
<v Speaker 1>show off to people here pretty soon, they say they will.
<v Speaker 3>So okay, well let's go.
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give them a chin to do that, and yeah,
<v Speaker 1>then I'm going to play this game when it launches.
<v Speaker 3>I am curious at this point.
<v Speaker 1>I want to want to see if it sort of
<v Speaker 1>delivers on the hype that has been built up all right.
<v Speaker 1>Continuing along here, three classic titles are coming to Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>Switch To and Nintendo Switch on March tenth. This is
<v Speaker 1>from Nintendo on Twitter. Virtual Boy for Nintendo Switch Online members,
<v Speaker 1>and I think this is for people who have the
<v Speaker 1>Expansion Pack, will begin getting Mario's Tennis and Mario's Mario Clash,
<v Speaker 1>and then Game Boy Advance for Nintendo Switch, which I
<v Speaker 1>think is also expansion excuse me, Expansion Pack members. We'll
<v Speaker 1>get Mario Versus Donkey Kong, which is the sort of
<v Speaker 1>bassis the original of the game that got remade for
<v Speaker 1>Switch a few years ago, maybe maybe it was last year.
<v Speaker 3>So cool.
<v Speaker 1>Cool that they also are going to give you the
<v Speaker 1>chance to play the GBA original.
<v Speaker 4>Cool.
<v Speaker 1>Mario's Tennis is definitely worth playing that. So that's a
<v Speaker 1>pretty good Virtual Boy game and probably one of the
<v Speaker 1>better ones. Mario Clash is actually not all that bad either,
<v Speaker 1>although you know, Warrio is probably still the best game overall.
<v Speaker 1>Weird that they held back on these games other than
<v Speaker 1>the fact that they're coming on Mario Day, right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess they. This makes me curious as to
<v Speaker 2>what they have planned for Mario Day this year, unless
<v Speaker 2>maybe the primary focus is just propping up the movie that.
<v Speaker 1>Could that probably is it right that that movie comes
<v Speaker 1>out April first, so it's three weeks later.
<v Speaker 3>That is the time to start talking about that movie.
<v Speaker 2>Through April first. I the release date has to be intentional,
<v Speaker 2>grab right, Like, is this secretly gonna be a Warrior movie?
<v Speaker 3>They moved it up. It was April third, and then
<v Speaker 3>they moved it up to April first.
<v Speaker 1>I think that's right. Someone in chat can correct me.
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that that's not exactly right. But uh, yeah, look,
<v Speaker 1>do I expect some character.
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't be surprised.
<v Speaker 1>If a Warrio shows up in this movie something along
<v Speaker 1>those lines, because it's, uh, they have already shown us
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of Yoshi stuff. We knew Yoshi was going
<v Speaker 1>to be in there. And Baby Bowser and it's like
<v Speaker 1>and and Bowser is in prison in the movie. They
<v Speaker 1>have him captive, So it's like, to me, that is
<v Speaker 1>a setup for Baby Bowser tries to do something and
<v Speaker 1>he screws up. Maybe unleash you a bigger bad and
<v Speaker 1>that could be Warped or Warrior or something. And then
<v Speaker 1>Bowser has to work with Mario to help Baby Bowser
<v Speaker 1>defeat the Bigger Bad That that is my expectation for
<v Speaker 1>this movie, and I think that Warrior could easily fill
<v Speaker 1>in that slot.
<v Speaker 2>Greg, We've seen a lot of like different inclusions outs
<v Speaker 2>this they're calling the Super Mario Galaxy right.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, the Super Mario Galaxy movie.
<v Speaker 2>I think despite having a lot of different influences, especially
<v Speaker 2>from Odyssey in this game, do you think we'll see
<v Speaker 2>any paper Mario representation.
<v Speaker 1>In this I think I think there's going to be
<v Speaker 1>so many references that yes, yeah, I mean, because that's
<v Speaker 1>the whole at this point, that's like the thing you
<v Speaker 1>can rely on from this movie having non cringe needle drops.
<v Speaker 1>Probably not having a really well done Pixar like story,
<v Speaker 1>probably not, but you could probably rely on a lot
<v Speaker 1>of really well done references in member berries, which, okay, whatever,
<v Speaker 1>people know what they're paying for. You're right, Hey, what
<v Speaker 1>is Mario Day going to look like? I'm at this
<v Speaker 1>point leaning towards it's just going to be focused on
<v Speaker 1>the movie.
<v Speaker 3>But they could have one other thing.
<v Speaker 1>I just don't I don't think we get the three
<v Speaker 1>D Mario announced at Mario Day this year or something
<v Speaker 1>like that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could see them possibly waiting for the summer,
<v Speaker 2>maybe like a tease or some thing. But even if
<v Speaker 2>they don't announce whatever new Mario three D platform or
<v Speaker 2>Mario would be at Mario Day, I don't think that
<v Speaker 2>is like a death knell for the Switch twos twenty
<v Speaker 2>twenty six.
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, especially you know, going into Pocopia this week.
<v Speaker 1>It feels like Switch was going to get a lot
<v Speaker 1>of life breathed into it right now as I continue,
<v Speaker 1>I think that is going to be this year's big
<v Speaker 1>surprising animal crossing like launch of Everyone's playing it all right,
<v Speaker 1>Resident Evil Requia meanwhiles. The other one of those is
<v Speaker 1>Capcom's fastest selling whore hit yet. For this is from
<v Speaker 1>Darren bonthiuse at GameSpot. Resident Evil Requiem is already a
<v Speaker 1>big hit for Capcom, as it reached five million in
<v Speaker 1>sales in just five days. The company says that it
<v Speaker 1>achieved this sales milestone faster than its previous mainline release,
<v Speaker 1>Resident Evil Village, and it was quicker than the recent
<v Speaker 1>remakes of Resident Evil two and Resident Evil four.
<v Speaker 3>Excuse me.
<v Speaker 1>There were already signs that Requiem was off to a
<v Speaker 1>strong start, as the game reached a new series record
<v Speaker 1>of over three hundred and forty four thousand concurrent players
<v Speaker 1>on Steam at one time, and it has so far
<v Speaker 1>been met with a positive reception from both critics and
<v Speaker 1>fans alike. It is right up there as like the
<v Speaker 1>number two or three game on Metacritic according to user reviews,
<v Speaker 1>which is like, people just very happy about this game.
<v Speaker 3>How this compares to others? So it's out.
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's selling faster than all those other games mentioned.
<v Speaker 1>What did those games go on to do? Monster Hunter
<v Speaker 1>World is their bestseller at twenty two million, rise at
<v Speaker 1>eighteen point two million after that. Resident Evil two twenty
<v Speaker 1>nineteen though, is their best selling Resident Evil game. Again,
<v Speaker 1>this game is selling faster than that one that went
<v Speaker 1>on to Cell sixteen point eight million, and Residuable seven
<v Speaker 1>Bio Hazards sold sixteen point four million, So this one
<v Speaker 1>feels like it's on pace to rush to seventeen eighteen,
<v Speaker 1>maybe twenty million seen thirty eight seventeen.
<v Speaker 3>Thirty eight exactly.
<v Speaker 1>Hey, Resident Evil keeps getting bigger because they keep investing
<v Speaker 1>in Resident Evil.
<v Speaker 3>It just feels that simple.
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yes, grub I am very hyped and excited for
<v Speaker 2>Capcom just because they continue to be making good decisions
<v Speaker 2>after good decisions, not all of them land of course,
<v Speaker 2>but again.
<v Speaker 3>And everything's perfect.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, not everything's perfect, But with Resident Evil at
<v Speaker 2>least they've been on such like a heater that I'm
<v Speaker 2>happy that this game is not only good, but it's
<v Speaker 2>also resonating with the audiences out there. And I've seen
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people grub expressing that they're not normally
<v Speaker 2>a horror game person, but they're just seeing the positive
<v Speaker 2>hype with this or.
<v Speaker 3>It's to ignore this one. Yeah, yeah that Like.
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, Like, I know Leon S. Kennedy, so he's
<v Speaker 2>back in this game. Maybe I'll go check this out
<v Speaker 2>for him. And then, you know, I've seen a lot
<v Speaker 2>of people really fall in love with the character of
<v Speaker 2>Grace and I'm just excited to see what that could
<v Speaker 2>mean for the future of Resident Evil. Grub if you
<v Speaker 2>will allow me to put my tinfoil hat on. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>Capcom succeeding right, and despite the mixed reception of the
<v Speaker 2>last Monster Hunter game overall, been on quite the heater,
<v Speaker 2>right rgg. Also, despite Kawami three's whole drama with the
<v Speaker 2>shitty voice actor that's incredibly problematic in them double downing
<v Speaker 2>on it, doubling down on it still been on quite
<v Speaker 2>the heater, right.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>All this negativity in the games industry, I think is
<v Speaker 2>maybe because the industry is kind of shifted towards a
<v Speaker 2>more Western mentality, you.
<v Speaker 3>Mean, like the games from Japan or what do you mean,
<v Speaker 3>what do you Western.
<v Speaker 2>Mentality because of like focusing so much on these live
<v Speaker 2>service games and trying oh you oh, you mean that.
<v Speaker 1>They're paying the price for doing things in the way
<v Speaker 1>that the Western companies wanted them to.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, definitely.
<v Speaker 1>Like I think, you know, I keep going back to
<v Speaker 1>that metaphor of Boeing of you know, they you have
<v Speaker 1>people that are in charge that come from the game side,
<v Speaker 1>or you have people in charge that come from the
<v Speaker 1>money side.
<v Speaker 3>And Boeing was like, we have people in.
<v Speaker 1>Charge for a long time that we're in charge of
<v Speaker 1>the plane side, and we did very well, but we've
<v Speaker 1>sort of reached the plateau. Let's put the money people
<v Speaker 1>in charge. And that made them a lot of money
<v Speaker 1>until it didn't because they killed people because they did
<v Speaker 1>such a bad job making planes. You know, obviously not
<v Speaker 1>as much taken video games, but I think the same
<v Speaker 1>thing happens, especially at Western studios and Western publishers where
<v Speaker 1>it's like we we know we answer to the investors.
<v Speaker 1>We're going to put the person who's best at answering
<v Speaker 1>to investors in charge, and that is it's just not
<v Speaker 1>a long term strategy. It's not a strategy for long
<v Speaker 1>term growth. It's always immediate returns and whatever happens happens.
<v Speaker 1>But we'll figure it out then. And it's like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that clearly that's what you guys are doing, and that's
<v Speaker 1>what led you here. And meanwhile, anyone else working in
<v Speaker 1>another part of the world that has a little bit
<v Speaker 1>of an opportunity to step back and approach things with
<v Speaker 1>a deliberate, meaningful pace, and it's like a lot of
<v Speaker 1>those reasons are cultural. A lot of those reasons are legal,
<v Speaker 1>because there's labor laws in Japan that force people to
<v Speaker 1>like go fairly think before they hire someone, and that's
<v Speaker 1>having its own problems in Japan. I know, like people
<v Speaker 1>are like, hey, we're getting maybe overworked in some ways.
<v Speaker 1>That's starting to pop.
<v Speaker 3>Back up again.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it just sustainability should be the goal at
<v Speaker 1>this point, and it's not even in the rear view
<v Speaker 1>mirror for a lot of Western publishers.
<v Speaker 2>This is why I've started to slowly turn on. I
<v Speaker 2>was initially a little bit negative on the news that
<v Speaker 2>you talked about on Monday grub of Santa Monica maybe
<v Speaker 2>making a God of War game. Yeah, but I've kind
<v Speaker 2>of started slowly warm up to the idea because if
<v Speaker 2>they're just using their existing tool set and everything they've
<v Speaker 2>already made, it kind of feels like a play out
<v Speaker 2>of a judgment, right, Yeah, it feels like a judgment.
<v Speaker 2>Feels like they're perhaps learning from someone like RGG or
<v Speaker 2>Capcom because that Resident Evil engine has paid off dividends
<v Speaker 2>for them. Yeah, so if they are taking the tools
<v Speaker 2>and all the learnings from that and maybe they can
<v Speaker 2>devote more work to other aspects of development. I hope
<v Speaker 2>it's a success, and I am starting to get kind
<v Speaker 2>of excited for what the prospects of that game could be.
<v Speaker 3>Yep.
<v Speaker 1>Capcom also mentioned that it's PC sales make up more
<v Speaker 1>than half of its revenue and they expect that ratio
<v Speaker 1>to continue to grow. This is another one of those
<v Speaker 1>things where it's like they invested in their games. They
<v Speaker 1>invested in bringing those games to PC, did a really
<v Speaker 1>good job with them for the most part, and you know,
<v Speaker 1>Monster Turner world's not accepted or being the exception beyond that, though,
<v Speaker 1>they've done a lot of work to invest in that space,
<v Speaker 1>and again this is paying off overtime. And obviously Capcom
<v Speaker 1>we keep saying, is the model a lot of these
<v Speaker 1>companies should be looking at, and a lot of them have.
<v Speaker 1>And now we get Konami sort of popping off, and
<v Speaker 1>if like the idea that like PlayStation might be looking
<v Speaker 1>to that model as well, with like let's just you know,
<v Speaker 1>take what we have, kind of build on it, maybe
<v Speaker 1>spin some stuff off while using a lot of the
<v Speaker 1>same kinds of assets here or there.
<v Speaker 3>That would I would be encouraged by that.
<v Speaker 2>Personally, Similarly, Greb, like we saw that the Silent Hill
<v Speaker 2>to remake did incredibly well, and that team could just
<v Speaker 2>reuse a lot of those assets and flip it around
<v Speaker 2>to remake Silent Hill one.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, exactly see Bramba one with the supersistors. Do we
<v Speaker 1>even have the technology to make Leon hotter? I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>doesn't say, I don't think so. I would I want
<v Speaker 1>to see him try, though, Grare, I would like to
<v Speaker 1>see them try.
<v Speaker 2>Here's what they do two leons.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, now we're talking Hey, that's possible. That's
<v Speaker 1>according to the lore, that's possible. Let's see Nintendo confirmed
<v Speaker 1>for Past Packs East twenty twenty six. This is from
<v Speaker 1>Go Nintendo, but basically PAS just listed a bunch more
<v Speaker 1>of the people who are going to be there. They
<v Speaker 1>didn't say anything about what specifically could show up. Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>has sometimes been at Pax, often has not been at PAX.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's if anything like the best case scenario here,
<v Speaker 1>Jan is like a situation where it looked a lot
<v Speaker 1>like it did at that Pax East we went to
<v Speaker 1>where they showed off Super Mario Brothers. Wonder we got
<v Speaker 1>to play that for the first time. So okay, maybe
<v Speaker 1>a game like that that's coming out later this year,
<v Speaker 1>maybe it just get gets announced or it's been announced
<v Speaker 1>and we finally get a chance to play it. Like
<v Speaker 1>Rhythm Heaven and Tomodacci Life could easily be there.
<v Speaker 3>Tomadachi Life will not be out by the time at Packs. No,
<v Speaker 3>it won't be.
<v Speaker 1>So I'm happy to see this and then wouldn't be
<v Speaker 1>surprised if it's a worst case scenario of here is
<v Speaker 1>a small little booth that has all of our games
<v Speaker 1>that have already been released and it's like an installation
<v Speaker 1>at a Best Buy.
<v Speaker 3>That could also be the case.
<v Speaker 2>Right, all that being said, if that is the case,
<v Speaker 2>I'm also okay with it. Because that Packs we attended,
<v Speaker 2>I believe it was West where they just had like
<v Speaker 2>a gigantic Kirby car and then like a photo installation
<v Speaker 2>of Super Mario Brothers Wonder with a gigantic pipe to
<v Speaker 2>take pictures with. I thought it was really well done.
<v Speaker 2>The museum aspect of it was also really neat to see.
<v Speaker 2>So if they are just trotting out a bunch of
<v Speaker 2>older games, I think I'd be okay with that. That
<v Speaker 2>big orchestral band that they had, yeah, that was playing
<v Speaker 2>was also very neat. And if this is just Nintendo
<v Speaker 2>trying to get boots on the ground and appeal and
<v Speaker 2>to see their constituents, I'm okay with that.
<v Speaker 4>Super Wow you just had that, Oh my god, Nintendo
<v Speaker 4>at Pax would be excel I would if they kind
<v Speaker 4>of come with a little bit of extra juge like
<v Speaker 4>they like they did.
<v Speaker 1>That's Packs West though, and it's like they're in Seattle
<v Speaker 1>right there, so it's like I always like.
<v Speaker 3>Get a little bit more hopeful for that.
<v Speaker 1>I hope that they can just bring that same energy
<v Speaker 1>here because we're going to be there and I would
<v Speaker 1>like to see that. Okay, that does it for the headlines.
<v Speaker 1>We have the poll question we need to get to
<v Speaker 1>from Monday, and then we'll have a new poll question
<v Speaker 1>for you. Let me refresh the results, make sure that
<v Speaker 1>we have everything here. There we go, just going to
<v Speaker 1>scroll down a little bit. Are you picking up Pokemon
<v Speaker 1>Pacopia at launch?
<v Speaker 3>Yes or no?
<v Speaker 1>I am I'm putting a yes, and so are twenty
<v Speaker 1>six percent of respondents. Seventy four percent say no. I
<v Speaker 1>think that's that's about right. This is one of those
<v Speaker 1>ones where it's like, Okay, I could have easily seen
<v Speaker 1>this at like fifteen percent before the reviews. Because it's
<v Speaker 1>a seventy dollars game, people have to kind of talk
<v Speaker 1>themselves into it. And then as word of mouth spreads
<v Speaker 1>over the next couple of weeks and all of these
<v Speaker 1>cozy streamers are going to be playing it, I think
<v Speaker 1>that number goes up pretty fast.
<v Speaker 2>Jan Yeah, I think the proximity also to being so
<v Speaker 2>close to Resident Evil nine may have thrown people off
<v Speaker 2>of getting it from launch day as well as sure Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>there is no physical release for this or there isn't one.
<v Speaker 1>Place there is there is, but it's a game key card.
<v Speaker 1>That's another one that is going to be another significant
<v Speaker 1>percentage point on this chart here of people being like
<v Speaker 1>I would love to, but I'm not going to get
<v Speaker 1>a game key card.
<v Speaker 3>Like that's still real.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And also for the folks that maybe voted know
<v Speaker 2>on this poll, I'm assuming maybe they also don't have
<v Speaker 2>a switch to yet, right, but this as popularity builds,
<v Speaker 2>grub I could see maybe not.
<v Speaker 3>This is a system seller. I think this game is
<v Speaker 3>a system seller.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I mean for that for that audience that has
<v Speaker 1>been like that loves Pokemon, is excited about the thirtieth anniversary,
<v Speaker 1>was thinking about I already have.
<v Speaker 3>A switch one.
<v Speaker 1>I'll play Za on there, or maybe I'll wait to
<v Speaker 1>get it until I get a switch to. I think
<v Speaker 1>this sort of clicks them over and be like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>I'll get to play that and Pacopia and then maybe
<v Speaker 1>pick up some maybe pick up Donkey Kong like the Again,
<v Speaker 1>I talk about the narrative of when you talk to
<v Speaker 1>yourself to spend five hundred dollars on something becomes a
<v Speaker 1>lot easier when a game like this hits. So I
<v Speaker 1>think I think it's gonna get a lot of people
<v Speaker 1>who do not have switch too is to show up
<v Speaker 1>for a switch to maybe not like not like tens
<v Speaker 1>of millions, like an animal crossing necessarily, but some fraction
<v Speaker 1>of that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've continued to play it, grub and like you know,
<v Speaker 2>sometimes will bounce off of a game after the initial
<v Speaker 2>podcast discussion or leading up to it, but like I
<v Speaker 2>can feel the momentum, and I want to see what
<v Speaker 2>this is like in a multiplayer setting as well.
<v Speaker 1>Let's see, we have a new poll question. Let's do
<v Speaker 1>that real quick. I did not say nude pole. Question everybody,
<v Speaker 1>how many PlayStation games have you purchased?
<v Speaker 3>Four?
<v Speaker 1>PC, zero, one, two, three or more? We'll get the results,
<v Speaker 1>talk about it on the show tomorrow. Here on Giant Bomb.
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of Giant Bomb, Jan, what do we have going on?
<v Speaker 3>Later?
<v Speaker 2>There's a bell on you. I don't know if you
<v Speaker 2>know this.
<v Speaker 3>There's a bell on me. Did it not go away?
<v Speaker 2>No?
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna play it again. Let's see if the let's
<v Speaker 3>see if this fixes it.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, you beat it all right?
<v Speaker 3>Oh question mark? Did the question mark make it go away?
<v Speaker 2>No? It's still there.
<v Speaker 3>Okay. Anyway, Well, I'll just I'll live with this bell then.
<v Speaker 2>Blake Club the Blightning Round. Sorry, happening later today. For
<v Speaker 2>Mike You's sake, I hope you finishes it today. Also,
<v Speaker 2>for as much as I enjoy a bundle of nerves,
<v Speaker 2>I need to move on from.
<v Speaker 3>Versus we Unit. I want to miss it, right, I
<v Speaker 3>want to miss it. I want to go back.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's like overplayed because it's so good.
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to ruin it. Right.
<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know, I think that is our Sabrina
<v Speaker 2>Carper Carpenter's espresso. It got overplayed, huh. I enjoyed enough,
<v Speaker 2>but I needed to go away now. Later today, we'll
<v Speaker 2>also be posting a new episode of This Is the Run.
<v Speaker 2>Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? Folks, tune in. It's
<v Speaker 2>honestly one of my favorite things, and I really enjoy
<v Speaker 2>this iteration, or this season at least of This Is
<v Speaker 2>the Run because game shows are just fun.
<v Speaker 3>Game shows are great. We'll be doing more of this
<v Speaker 3>in the future.
<v Speaker 2>Voicemail dumb Truck popping off tomorrow. We have a very
<v Speaker 2>packed Friday as well, folks. The schedule hasn't been updated,
<v Speaker 2>but Gays mornings and then a multiplayer Pocopia stream and
<v Speaker 2>then upf where we'll probably do marathon, and then Mikey's
<v Speaker 2>going to have himself his own launch day Pocopia stream.
<v Speaker 2>If folks didn't check out the World of Warcraft one yesterday,
<v Speaker 2>Mikey went through that expansion and grab, I don't like
<v Speaker 2>it because I thought about getting Wow.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the house building stuff actually was way more enticing
<v Speaker 1>than I ever thought World of Warcraft would be to me. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>but then I saw then I did see a quest
<v Speaker 1>in Midnight where the question was like, hey, tell us,
<v Speaker 1>which of these cogs is moving in the wrong direction?
<v Speaker 1>And it's four cogs and all of them are going
<v Speaker 1>in one direction, and one of them is going in
<v Speaker 1>a different direction, and they're huge and very easy to
<v Speaker 1>look at. But then the one that is going in
<v Speaker 1>the wrong direction is always a different looking cog.
<v Speaker 3>And that's it.
<v Speaker 1>Do you or what? Are Warcraft players just dumb? And
<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, at leakes Blizzard thinks, So.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, don't worry, folks, I still have to make
<v Speaker 2>good on one of the incentives to play Final Fantasy fourteen,
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna dive into an MMO. It's going to
<v Speaker 2>be fourteen.
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's see anything else we got to let
<v Speaker 1>people know about. No, I think we mostly covered it.
<v Speaker 2>Jan Tomadacci Tomorrow is, of course, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 3>The best dating show on the internet. Everybody. You definitely
<v Speaker 3>do not want to miss that.
<v Speaker 1>All right, Jan, I think with all that out of
<v Speaker 1>the way, let's get on out of here. Thank you
<v Speaker 1>so much for hanging out with me today and talking
<v Speaker 1>about video games. Man, I really appreciate it.
<v Speaker 2>Happy Sandwich Wednesday, everybody.
<v Speaker 3>Happy Sandy Wednesday, everybody.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for tuning in and listening and watching and
<v Speaker 1>all of that.
<v Speaker 3>You are the best audience in gaming.
<v Speaker 1>Until next time, have a good one, take care of yourself,
<v Speaker 1>and goodbye.