Carlos Narváez and Payton Tolle join FT at Red Sox camp

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Speaker 1: Wow, welcome to foul Territory, a player's only addition.

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Speaker 2: Today we kicked all the nerds out, Eric Kraftz, Todd Frazier, We said, Scott beat it, Alana beat it, Tricia beat it. Any other guest host we had beat it. It's players only. Players get to run the show today. So welcome to foul Territory. And we figured we might as well start with the player in Carlos Narvaias from the Boston Red So so, Carlos, welcome to the players of the only addition.

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Speaker 1: You can say whatever you want.

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Speaker 3: I thank you, guys, love love this opportunity to talk with players, like, uh for my guys, I watch you play. I watched Eric play. Eric probably don't remember I was with him in when he was with the Yankees. I was so young I was. I always remember you, bro, when you throw a ball like this, like like like ninety fifts, just it's trying to thrown problem. It was like this A wo you got, I mean they got has a kind of.

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Speaker 4: Uh. No, he was nice.

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Speaker 5: He was nice to you because I went down No it's not you don't look in the mirror, looking the screen, but I went down to the minor league side with with the catching coordinator. We were we were doing workouts with all you guys. I remember all you Chiquitos. They were all there, just the babies.

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Speaker 4: That's nice, that'n' nice. That's good.

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Speaker 1: Did you buy your dinner? Did you buy your sandwich?

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Speaker 3: No, you stuck to me, but that you want to Yeah, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: How are you feeling feeling good? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Back back spasms?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was, But I was like a couple of days ago. That was only for like one day, two days. That's it. It was just I was doing my lifting. I felt something, But no, I think graceport.

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Speaker 1: Right now, like you're doing.

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Speaker 4: I was dumping. Actually I know I was doing. Don't jump by the way, Yeah, but we had to.

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Speaker 3: I was doing squads and then jump, trying to trying to gain more more high So I don't know. I just I just felt when I went down. I was of that day. So that was before the Puerto Rico game, so I just felt that. Didn't went off for the next day and then I was find the day after.

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Speaker 5: Making your debut later than say other starting catchers make their debuts, being older, do you look at it as I'm still young in the game, or do you look at it as I'm a veterano, like I'm older than most of these guys, no matter how many years of service you have.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't since last year I started a lot of things. This guy is a rookie. I never seen myself as a rookie, even though I mean, of course, with all their respect to everybody, But as soon as the game started, like I'm saying, as everybody, that's my mindset.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think that held me a lot, especially early on the season last year when I started playing every day, I know I had to do it.

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Speaker 4: I got to lead away from my pitcher.

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Speaker 3: So I never never see myself like as a rookie, don't matter how how time I was in the game, It's just okay. As soon as the game started, everybody is the same. That's my mindset.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 6: I think that's a perfect way of going about it. Just calm your mindset down. Less is more. I want to talk a little about your pitching staff here. You got a couple of new guys, Sonny Gray, Rangers, Suarez, the name a few. Talk a little about have you been acclimated with them? Have you caught them and and what do you see from those guys moving forward?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, super exciting for those additions. I think the picture stuff last last year was amazing. You see the numbers throughout all those three guys. You guys is gonna it's gonna help us big time. Sonny rander Ov. We just he just came by a couple of seconds ago. I think they're they're gonna be great. Uh like the stuff that they have. Everyone everyone is different, uh, I mean round your he he got a pitch. You know, he's changed up there. Everything involved you got, you got song is kind of kind of the same way. But righty, you know, like they're being they're being in the lead for a while and you you see their their leadership too, you know, so we we open to everything. You know, like he's both of them is being amazing obvious. It's a different guy. It's a big dude. He he got he got a lead fast. Weall he go after hitters.

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Speaker 4: You know. So everyone's different.

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Speaker 3: But like the pictures start being amazing, the coaching styt being amazing since last year. I mean I just got here last year. So but like those three guys is gonna it's gonna help us big time. The pictures the starting pitchers leading by bye bye by Garrett and the relievers guy leading by by by Chappie, two of the best guys in the lead right now. And I just, I mean myself just being behind the play for them. I just, I just I just feel proud to be.

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Speaker 1: Honest, Carlos is your favorite guy to catch?

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Speaker 5: I cannot say that, yes, no, no, you have to the answer is whoever's starting.

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Speaker 4: That day exactly, whoever is on them.

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Speaker 2: Like you also got to have a little bit towards Crochet because he is the guy with the big money and the number one No.

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Speaker 3: No, not even for that, just just just the season he put last year. I mean just being behind the diach for him after a season he was, I mean running up in the side young Ward, Like, I just feel proud, I know all the coraage for him.

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Speaker 1: Anything.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but Chappy did what Chappy get you?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Choppy did arolics for you, for him, for me, for for for a corner that.

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Speaker 1: Was what color?

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Speaker 4: It's like a rose bowl?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, my first one.

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Speaker 5: That's that's that's gonna be my question. Two absolute monsters Gigante's Giants, Garret croset Eradus Chapman who wins in a fight?

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I think I think bro because Chappy had a skinny legs, so he goes with the legs and he got.

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Speaker 8: Bigger than all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it is, but I mean you just your kick your legs and he probably don't.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you're not gonna you're not gonna let chap you here, that Chappy.

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Speaker 7: The boxer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we always yog about that.

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Speaker 2: It's cool, that's funny, that's funny. What today, Ovieto you mentioned starting Sonny's here? Have you caught Sonny yet?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Sonny and when we were working together last two houris and now is.

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Speaker 2: He he's a crazy routine right, Yeah, he's he got he got crazier thing.

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Speaker 3: He's a guy you gotta be on the on the on the same page with you gotta you gotta be with him.

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Speaker 4: You gotta be in his mind.

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Speaker 3: You know, he always followed the game, always need thinking on the next pitch, So you've got to be on the same page with him. Like he got multiple pitches, you know, so he got it now with the pitch con So you gotta you.

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Speaker 4: Gotta click early. You know what I mean, as soon as.

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Speaker 3: I catch a ball at try back, I'm calling the next you miss?

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Speaker 1: Do you miss mistake?

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Speaker 3: You make mistakes the first one, the first one a little bit because he's the guy you need to set up for you, I mean, you know about it, like, so you gotta be you gotta be a little more focused on pitch by pitch with him. So that's the only difference. But he's great, bro. His pitch, his his breaking ball stuff is his money, you know. So he's different. Like I say, every guy, every guy in the and the starting in the center rotation has a different pictures, you know.

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Speaker 4: So he's definitely different one.

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Speaker 3: But like I said, he's he's great and like I said, he's gonna be He's gonna be really good for us.

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Speaker 7: You mentioned Gary Crochet before.

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Speaker 5: Is he working on anything new this spring, because when you were this run around for the cy Young you're like, Okay, maybe I can just stick with what I got Or is he working on something that you're like, oh, I can't wait till we break this out During the season.

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Speaker 3: He's working on on the on the splitter. He wants to add that one a little more this year. But like I said, like if you see that season last year. I don't think that's much you can change, you know. So he's going to continue to to do what what what he does, uh with his trends, but he adding a little more just split hopefully he's he's working on it, you know what I mean. Sometimes it's really good. Sometimes still there's still a lot of work to do. But like I said, he's he's definitely one involve that pitch a little more this year.

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Speaker 2: But he's gonna be one of those guys that says, oh, splitter look good, and then the season comes, he throws it and he beats you.

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Speaker 1: You and Wong are up back there in bullpens.

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Speaker 2: He's bouncing it, and then the season comes, he's no, I'm just gonna go back to what I was doing.

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Speaker 1: Fastball, cutter, slider.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean probably, but that's why Springs whin Springs training. You know, he's working on it. We got time. He's been working on that pitch last four weeks. So, like I said, he's in is in a better shape. I think it's going to be a volleyball pitch. Like I don't know, I'm thinking like paying ten percent again probably like that, you know, what I mean means a little bit because of course, like everybody knows guy right, you know, everybody knows how he how he's gonna attack here. So I don't know, we may gonna adjust a little bit with that pitch. But like I said, strange is gonna be. It's gonna be the same.

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Speaker 6: World Baseball Classic. I'm sure you've been watching a little bit. I'm sure maybe one day you would love to play for a team Venezuela. I think that'd be awesome. What do you think about it? How do you how do you see Team Venezuela? Their chance is moving forward?

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Speaker 7: Here?

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Speaker 4: I mean actually I was.

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Speaker 3: I was Wednesday and the game that I mean the atmost for it was went to the game I went to again because we had off the here, so I went, uh, I see that game in live, you know. So of course, like I wanted to at some point, and that's that's one of my my check book dreams. But I don't know. I think I think the time will come. This year I wasn't enabled because the insurance, so but I think in the future, hopefully in the next one will be there. You know what I mean, The I mean putting putting putting Venezuela yees for me is one of my dreams, so hopefully that will come in the future.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the team right now looks bazing.

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Speaker 3: Of course that game Dominican was ahead, got a big big names in that lineup, Like I say, they got they got. They got Japan tomorrow probably one of the best, the best.

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Speaker 4: Team out there. So it's gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 3: But I think the next game is gonna be huge if they win Japan, he got got a lot of chance to win that, to win that team.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I have to call the game tomorrow night, Japan Venezuela game on Fox and the Fox won half. Start your free seven day trial. Who am I watching it for Venezuela. Who's pitching tomorrow for Venezuela.

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Speaker 4: You're doing it?

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Speaker 1: Can you give them? Can he give them five against Japan? And then who can come down?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: They got a really good relievers, young guys. They got a little relievers strowing guys. Bro everybody's throwing guys. That's that's one of the most impressive things to me watching the game from both sides. Venezuela got every every liver throwing ninety seven plus I'm from Dominican, you know, you know ninety eight plus, So that's that's fun to watch. But I think, hopefully, hopefully Ranger got the change up going and it's going to be a lead.

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Speaker 2: So if if I'm at the game, which I'm gonna be at the game tomorrow night, you're gonna come to the game to our night.

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Speaker 4: Probably now we go. I got you Sunday, you seeing you know late day. That was good. I just wanted to I just wanted to see that game. Man. That's good enough. Hopefully in the Nest one I will playing.

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Speaker 1: So Okay, look, it's one of the greatest atmospheres. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: In twenty three I was at the US Venezuela let be final. Sorry to bring it up, but it was an atmosphere.

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Speaker 3: Tell everybody might be it's amazing. Even even you can fill that energy in the city. I was around earlier in the day and everybody was okay about the game, And of course we got into a game. I like traffic everywhere, like, I mean, the city got crazy.

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Speaker 4: That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome, Carlos, thank you for joining us here. Thank you, foul Territory. Have a great year with the Boston Red Sox and we'll be right back. Foul Territory Spring training Tours engineered here by fast and All. Check out Fastenall dot com for more information. We are here at Red Sox Camp today. Let's check out the calendar. You see, we've already done Arizona Crush that one. Then we did Southeast Florida, Jupiter Port, Saint Lucy Palm Beach.

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Speaker 1: Now we're doing the Southwest side.

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Speaker 2: We're here in Red Sox Camp and then next week Lakeland, which is beautiful this time of the year, I hear. And then we're going to the Tampa area Bradenton on Saint Patrick's Stak crafts Wear you're a green hat, and then the Blue Jays and we end up in the Phillies. But we're back here at Red Sox Camp now with the young lefty Hayton totally watch you throw a bullpen.

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Speaker 7: Does the little uh?

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Speaker 1: Does the little thing that they have there distract you?

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Speaker 9: Thing for the catcher, I try try not to be distracted by it. I think it's good whenever we're heading into shake, so that's.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you're hitting the corners.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think a good pitch. I think so.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a good little tool to use.

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Speaker 9: You know, we use it today just to try to be in zone and well about fifty fifty on that today.

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Speaker 1: But shouldn't you be better than that? Absolutely?

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Speaker 8: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, definitely should be better kind of it wasn't my best work.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it distracts a catcher though? Too? Is with with Kratz and me on here two catchers touch?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I thought I didn't care. Was like me swung and everything, but you know the connects back there. They got these little strings and they're bouncing all around crowds.

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Speaker 8: Like, yeah, is it you did They didn't do that?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it's it's innovating innovation that excites.

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Speaker 7: They did it. They did it.

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Speaker 5: We did it back in two thousand and nine and twenty ten Joe Kerrigan set except he didn't do Like I was watching behind behind where our setup is.

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Speaker 7: You guys have like a square.

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Speaker 5: We had just a string that they ran across the entire bullpen. So it was like two or three guys that were doing it. Yeah, it's distracting. It hits it and you're like I never saw one hit it, and like go anywhere the string's too thin.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, it's distracted, but I got add Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The other thing is that they had the the plastic guy that stands there, you know, they hate that, the fake dude that stands there, and someone.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't you that threw one.

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Speaker 2: It was there was another lefty throwing, uh Sikama, Yeah, that always say his name Sycamo throwing. And the poor catcher he threw one in in the right handed fake batter and it hit it and he could catcher like jumped out of the way because he was afraid it was gonna smoke him in the ribs.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Those things don't dodge. They don't dodge out of the way.

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Speaker 1: But I DK today.

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Speaker 7: So does it help you? Does it help you though?

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Speaker 5: Because I hated it as a catcher, not the one that hit the plastic dummy, the one that ticks off it and you go to catch it and then it catches me in the neck.

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Speaker 7: But does it help you as a picture?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 8: I think sometimes it can.

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Speaker 9: It just gives another like visual aid, so you're not just it's not running blind into games with it. A little bit of a you can kind of maybe like break a curveball off of the guy's elbow or something like that. So it's it can help guys. I like, I like sitting the lefty in there to try to have some like staying closed into it.

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Speaker 8: But it does help. It's good visual aid.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think all this talk about what to do, how we're doing it, all these different techniques, I want to ask you personally, what in spring training coming into this year right now? I know you have your off scene and planning, but what is your main goal and focus on, not only you know, throwing wise, but for yourself too as well coming into this season.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I think it's per on the pitching side thing.

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Speaker 8: It's been a lot of off speed.

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Speaker 9: We saw last year that we can get by with fastballs, but as everybody on this call knows, big league hitters can hit fastballs, so we need some way to protect that. And so for me, it's been a lot of curveballs, a lot of change ups, just trying to add wrinkles to guys. But yeah, I mean it's trying to not have any expectations for this year, just trying to take it in the day at a time, because it can be really easy to get caught up in where we think we should land where everything should line up for us, But just trying to take it one day at a time. And it's been a trying to do my best at staying where my feet are, although it can be tough sometimes, but yeah, it's just trying to block out the noise and focus on what I can that day.

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Speaker 5: All Right, you said big lead hitters can hit fastballs, and yet every single place that we look at it's like you got to.

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Speaker 7: Throw your fastball harder, gotta throw it harder.

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Speaker 5: And now you're sitting here as a guy who went from being on our show last year in Higa too being in the big leagues, do you feel like too much ownership or too much time is spent on how hard can I throw this fastball? Because now you're like, I want to stick in the big leagues, I gotta be spin this breaking ball a different way.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I think that Villo is king right now, but I think it's a lot of guys are different. For me, the Villo is a thing that I want to continue to work on, continue to build on. But like you're saying, like you need to have spin in order to pitch well, you can't be one dimensional out there, So I think it's good, especially like coming up through the organization of trying to throw harder each and every outing. It was a good mindset change for me of like going out there and like you said, pr on every pitch and so it's gonna help the villa, will help the off speeds get better. But now it's like, okay, maintained velocity and also uh, be.

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Speaker 8: Able to spin it and get into the zone.

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Speaker 1: I mean, did you learn all this in those like four hard months?

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Speaker 2: You grind it through the minor leagues and crafts. I mean this guy here, he's a grinder. I mean he was in the motogrinder grind. You got all this wisdom?

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Speaker 1: And what was that like?

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Speaker 2: Drafted in twenty four? Did you play? You played at all? In twenty four?

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Speaker 8: I had one fcl inning, So you do one.

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Speaker 2: Inning, So one inning technically has parts of two years in the minor league grind. And the next thing you know, it was August. Right, You're in the big lea pitching for the Red Sox at then.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it was an absolute whirlwind of a year or sixteen months whatever it was, but.

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Speaker 8: It was it was a lot of fun. It was to meet a lot of new people.

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Speaker 2: So that's that was you know, everyone from a ball double A all the way up to the big leagues.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, this spring training has been great.

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Speaker 9: I haven't really introduced myself to a whole lot of new people. So it's you know, the minor league gys, so I got I got boys everywhere, so I'm it's it's helped me out a lot of feel pretty comfortable with everybody, so it's all, you know everyone's name, we're close. So there's a couple of like new draft guys that I think I've introduced myself three times too, and it's like, well now that.

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Speaker 8: Just makes me look like a complete tool of But they're looking at you.

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Speaker 2: Look at this veteran Peyton totally walked up to me. Guys introduced himself to me. Look at this, he's a big league start.

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Speaker 8: It was the third time introducing himself to me.

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Speaker 1: You at least you introduced yourself to Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it's iron of course last year being in their shoes, it can be uh, it can be intimidating, but trying to I don't.

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Speaker 8: I try to spread the love too.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Todd and I spend a lot of time in the minor league is not as much as Kratz right, Todd, We grinded through the minor league, but we're not quite on Peyton's level.

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Speaker 1: Is how quick we could get there.

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Speaker 6: No no doubt and sorry Kratzy you were You went up there as quick as possible. Absolutely incredible, all joke, all joking aside.

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Speaker 8: I want, I want, I.

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Speaker 6: Want the people to get to know you a little bit here. I know you look like a fun loving guy. Tell me your likes, your dislikes, Like, what do you do off season stuff? Talk a little bitout about you as a person non baseball life.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I like people a lot.

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Speaker 9: I like whenever I'm in the off season, I get my workouts done in the morning and then it's it's off to go hang out with dad, girlfriend, you know, just high school buddies, whatever it is, like just I like hanging out with people, but I like food a lot. My greatest accomplishment of all time was conquering a seventy two out steak out there in Ambrillo, Texas.

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Speaker 8: Uh, I'll brag about it. It was pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Like John Canny, he wasn't born then the big.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I forgot, what did you want a free T shirt? A T shirt and the name on the wall. That's all I got.

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Speaker 1: Did they at least get a picture? I got a picture of You have to have a bone in it? Or is it just the whole?

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Speaker 8: That's the whole thing.

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Speaker 9: It's just the No, I'm not a factor. I probably roasted for that, but not a big fact. You don't need to eat all the fat. There's not a lot on it, but you don't need to eat all of it. So thick sauce tried to stay away from it. But it gets to a point where you're eating. You get to about the third pound of.

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Speaker 1: The steak, and it's like, yeah, you got Is there a time limit?

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Speaker 8: An hour?

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Speaker 1: Holy crap?

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Speaker 8: How long?

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Speaker 7: How would it.

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Speaker 4: Takes you to do it?

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Speaker 8: Fifty minutes and fifty one seconds?

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Speaker 7: He knows it was this your first try?

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Speaker 8: No, I actually my sophomore year of high school. I did it.

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Speaker 9: I only got sixty five ounces of it down. But the roll in the big potato they get in the way. You got to do that too, roll salad, it's the whole nine yards.

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Speaker 7: Oh man, how did you feel after you were done?

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Speaker 4: Not?

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Speaker 8: Great?

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Speaker 9: It took about twenty minutes and uh, pull over to the side of the road.

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Speaker 8: But after that I felt great.

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Speaker 7: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, we had Alex cor earlier on here. He's rocking his Puerto Rico sweatir with the blonde hair. Do you still have USA shaved in your chest?

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Speaker 1: Sadly?

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Speaker 9: No, it got a little bit itchy and like gave the whole thing I did. Yeah, we started fresh, and yeah that I'm not going to blame that Italy game on me, but it might be my fall just for not just staying patriotic. But yeah, every time I looked in the mirror, I was liked, which is a little She loved it. I'm pretty sure she said she did. It was partly her idea, so but it was, uh yeah, it was one of those look in the miroric. You know, maybe this is getting a little weird.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're all rooting for USA on this show, and I know you're clearly rooting for that Pyton totally.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, appreciate it. Here a Red Sox camp and we'll be right back on foul Territory