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Speaker 5: Welcome to another episode of Busting with the Boys. This is episode three sixty four. We're having Big Jeff Simmons on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: We got Jeff Simmons.

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Speaker 5: We got a massive snow coming this weekend in Nashville.

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Speaker 2: Like that. I don't like that.

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Speaker 2: Listen, you're brought up something during before you got into the ad Reid and it's I walk up, I walk back on the bus, get myself some water. You say something about eighteen possible wages of snow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah so so per our sources. The weather App's telling us fifteen to eighteen, per our sources. Weather apps telling us fifteen to eighteen, and the Weather channel is saying five.

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Speaker 2: To eight regardless, not good.

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Speaker 5: Regardless. We're getting snow, and dude, it snows are good. You get a snow day, that's Arizona, Kevin's Natural foods, clean takes. Snow days are fun.

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Speaker 2: No snow days. You're right, snow day is fun. Having a snow day, snowmen, sleds, maybe some ice skating going on outside, all fun stuff, all fun stuff. The guys, this is that's people do in real snow places, snowing or skating.

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Speaker 5: Snowing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like multiple days for it to freeze over, like you have to. I believe it's weeks, like three weeks of below freezing. Yeah, you have to that, and you have somebody walk on it. I'm not going to be the guy who walks on it. But anyway, snow day is fun. After day, we're done shut it down. Oh no ah, this is a clean take right here.

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Speaker 5: That's not a clean Arizona's the best.

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Speaker 2: That's a clean take. That's a clean take. You don't like that take.

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Speaker 1: No, no.

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Speaker 5: I a lot a lot of good states out there, a lot of good steaks, A lot of good steaks, A lot of good steaks.

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Speaker 2: Regardless. Snow days are fun, but not I don't want it more than a day. Oh no, nothing, no nothing.

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Speaker 5: I hate that we're doing.

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Speaker 2: Got a clean take to you. You don't what they take.

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Speaker 5: We're due for good snow when you have, we're do for nothing.

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Speaker 6: You got the boots at the door, all the kids snow. I was just sitting there drying, and you're hoping it's dry because you know tomorrow morning the kids are gonna want to rip out in the snow again.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's nothing.

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Speaker 2: It's just view sounds amazing. Now, let's go three weeks of having snow on the ground. It's freezing outside, its frigid.

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Speaker 5: Every day.

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Speaker 2: You get a bundle these little guys up every day and they're not thinking themselves. My five year old daughter goes outside and addressing like, honey, it's January. You can't do that. He says, yes, I can tell who you can, but you're gonna get sick. And then when we're shoes I have, I have feral kids. They just want to be outside and rip around the mud and stuff like that, and it's like I have to bundle you up out it.

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Speaker 5: But the shoes.

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Speaker 2: Don't have to have to fight about the shoes and put the pants on. But when need layers in the pants, we put the stalkings on, then the pants and then those little buttons. That's a bit of a pain in the ass too.

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Speaker 7: So you just don't like winter. You It sound like you don't like snow because you have to do that regardless of January.

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Speaker 2: I don't mind. Like this weekend when it was twenty degrees but the sun was out cool. I can handle that winter. I'm all about that.

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Speaker 7: But I'm saying, you sulasses on in the.

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Speaker 2: Car during wintertime, that's a winner to me. I like that. But having snow. Snow's good for Christmas, good chweek is Jack eloquently put it. A few weeks ago. New Year's Soon, New Year's hits. We're all in depression mode. It's hey, we're sad till spring.

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Speaker 7: You know what makes you not depressed snow for that day.

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Speaker 2: You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 7: I will be having a little pep in my step anytime snow.

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Speaker 2: Right, it'll be fun for that day. Hey guys, let's go to the city the whole time. After two weeks, you get.

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Speaker 5: The kiddos all bundled up, and then you're building that snow man, or you're going down that hill on a sleigh.

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Speaker 7: Or you're just you go outside and like, you know what, let's just get let's just cause a rast, get a snowball, just chuck it at somebody.

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Speaker 5: And plans canceled like anything. You think you might not be wanting to go to snow just made that decision for you.

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Speaker 2: I can see a pro in that. Yeah, I can see a pro in that. Every winter it's the same thing everyone, It's the same thing. I get up in the morning, there's snow on the ground. Town's like you shure you go to tesdays, baby, Yeah, we have the bus. I'm going, but it's snowing outside. I'm going and then there's nobody on the road. It's more dangerous can't drive as fast.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but there's also that like.

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Speaker 2: Just don't do well in the snow. I put some sandbags on the back of that thing.

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Speaker 5: There's also that focus and challenge going on and being careful and looking at all the snow and let me go, let me go ahead and turn on this.

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Speaker 2: Let me go ahead and turn on this road. Let me go and do my exact routine I do every single day, but with more caution.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, you're being mean right now. Not not being mean.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm selling my clean take. I had a clean take. You're trying to sell me on the clean take on My take's not clean, but I think it's clean.

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Speaker 5: Here's a pessimistic take.

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Speaker 2: It might be pet peeve, pet peeve, snow snow more than one day. Yeah, snow out of the calendar. I just told you guys, Gooch week and Christmas out of that snow can kick rocks, buddy.

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Speaker 1: That's that's an Arizona kid.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Arizona, I do get it.

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Speaker 2: I know there's one individual on this buss has been pretty quiet because they agree with me. No, I just think it's ain't talk. It's just man, just a bad take.

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Speaker 8: Everyone's happier when it snows. Everybody, kids, adults.

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Speaker 5: Everybody watch is just coming? Oh Taylor, come on.

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Speaker 2: Do you guys want to go have a snow day? Or is it summertime? Shorts, barbecue pool.

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Speaker 5: That's not what we're doing. We know a big snow's coming. We're accepting that a big snow's coming, and we're being optimistic about the big snow coming. Like, yeah, if I could be on a beach and get some sunshine, like, yeah, it's a great day.

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Speaker 2: What's your beach guy? Now?

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Speaker 5: Now, I'm just saying I can be older guys.

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Speaker 3: JP, how do you feel I do understand what you're saying. I would just extend my day, like I enjoy more than one snow day.

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Speaker 5: Maybe give me three.

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Speaker 2: To five done, I'll sign off on that it's clean. Take yeah, three to five.

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Speaker 3: Other than that, it's perfectly fine. If I could just travel to snow, I don't need it to come to be that often, exactly three to five days, get a lot of sledding.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's fine here.

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Speaker 3: Snow's like once once a year, like a big snow here, I feel like, which I can handle. Yeah, I love sledding almost as much as any buddy, But I am with you three.

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Speaker 1: To five days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take three to five days.

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Speaker 1: I'll up on that FID day.

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Speaker 3: Se who's still outside snow can.

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Speaker 5: Definitely be outside, especially when it melts and it's all gone, and there's just like this transition that happens and getting like just super dirty to just getting everything kind of cleaned up, but just knowing a good snow is coming. Do for good snow. We're due for a good snow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Soup tastes different.

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Speaker 2: I'm over here hearing guys get excited about soup.

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Speaker 5: You don't like soup?

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Speaker 2: Three man?

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Speaker 5: Everybody coming Taylor?

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Speaker 1: Come on, dude, forbid like soup either?

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Speaker 2: I like soup. I like super When do you go?

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Speaker 5: The soup not hit different on a cold day with snow.

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Speaker 2: Soup's great porridge? Whatever, dude, five days some sort of broth. I'm with it.

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Speaker 5: It's good.

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Speaker 2: It's the list, especially in a cold day. It's nice but different.

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Speaker 5: Come on, Pumpkin spot is pompkin stuff hits different when it's Halloween time?

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Speaker 2: Does it does? Totally different?

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Speaker 5: Picture of Taylor sitting across from you and being like, listen, you guys, talk up this stuff. That hits different because of the Halloween time we've been Oh come on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm with that, But that person be wrong. Is uh, I'm over here thinking this talking about soup right now?

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Speaker 7: Is is Taylor being in a bit of an energy vampire right now?

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Speaker 5: He kind of is being an energy vampire?

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: I guess I guess my truth isn't good enough for you guys. Huh. I have a little bit of I walk into a save space, I think where I can just talk to my boys. This is how I feel.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't have to like eat thank you? JP.

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Speaker 2: Does that make me an energy vampire because I'm like, I'm not too excited about eighteen inches of snow. I'm a snow vampire, dude. I'll be out there with a hair dryer. I'm putting down the plastic tarps like Jack's dad.

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Speaker 6: Hey, speaking of soup, my wife and I we have a snow day soup that we always used to make in Pennsylvania every time we had a snowday.

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Speaker 5: So any of the recipe, oh yeah, and make sure like put it, put it. Put it on the video too, so everybody can kind of see the super bress.

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Speaker 6: Snow day soup and then you have you in and out of the snow, and then you got food ready every time you come in.

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Speaker 5: Warm soup. Great, great recipe. Soup on a snow day. What are you dipping in that snow day super recipe? The clump French bread?

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Speaker 2: Probably well yeah, oh yeah, oh, let's go okay, I kind of I'm getting on that bag gets hit different, now different, something like a nice slice of bread, freshly toasted, some like some seasoned butter.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there we go.

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Speaker 2: That's hitting. You know when that hits. Any day of the year, that's when that ship hits. Soup hits too, when the weather kind of breaks a little bit. I like a little soup in my Spectober. I like that. I like in my December. I like December fifteenth soup. I love that.

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Speaker 3: I think we should bring back soup in thermoss. I feel like that's good, like that just kind of carrying it around, I say, bring it back. I've never actually done that. I just see the movies like Man with the with.

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Speaker 2: The cup that unscrews and you got it. It's like man, just sip from the bottle and you know what, I'll go even farther on the snow December first to jan one, I can do I can do snow. I can do snow. But now we're in the middle of January, like we're all thinking about the spring right now.

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Speaker 5: But so that means too that the weather took something from us that we wanted, that we needed, that we crave, crave.

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Speaker 2: I want to need A crave was not a part of what I was like, Oh, that's a good that's a good spot to have snow pickles on a sandwich. I'll take them or leave it if it comes in that time. But we get to mid jan it's like, what are y'all doing, They're piling on three to five. I'll take that. So whatever, when I get back from Vegas on Sunday, I'll land to a snow ridden experience. Kind of would be a dub, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 8: Jack, No, I want to be here for that snow and kind of off what you're saying, not getting the snow from December first to jam one, Like, well, it's like you're missing something and we're going to get cold weather for the next month or you know, month and a half. It's nice to catch a snow day to remind you why the cold weather can provide just a little bit of sunshine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know when the cold weather can provide sunshine, when the sun comes out during cold weather.

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Speaker 8: Well, then why do you live in Nashville?

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Speaker 2: I know, Well we're here, then, I'm sure the best of it. Let's make the best of it, man, make the best of it.

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Speaker 3: And there's one thing when you're.

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Speaker 5: Ever come and say, oh, come on, make the best of it.

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Speaker 8: Even if you don't like the look on your kids' faces when they wake up to it.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited for that.

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Speaker 8: That's gonna be all time for you.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited for my kids. Man, they're gonna have a great time. Dad, come out and play. No, no, we can't. I'll just sit there with my fucking soup. That's hitting different from the window. This in my thermos. Be like, I guess I'm checking all my boxes right now. Get dad, look at this. That's great, honey, that's awesome. Look and I are going that is it? Fires hit different fires? Different fires hit different now. Yes, yes, yes, I might even put on some Christmas music during it. Pretend like I might go buy another tree, I might redo Christmas. I gotta bring some sort of positivity. But yeah, man, I'll tell you this. I'm out on snow AnyWho onwards this weekend though UFC Patty Pimlet, patdy Plet UFC on Paramount Plus for the first time ever. It's exciting. New Year, New opportunities. Will be gambling again. There's also I think it's Aufa Coufa boxing something like that. They have like a boxing event Friday night. We will also be at and I have a special announcement for this next Vegas gambling trip that's coming up. I believe it's not one hundred percent yet, but I'm enough percentage where I wanting to lean on the fact that it's going to happen. Dave Lawana is coming, Carol Awa is coming to Vegas. He was at my house last night and I'm walking around. We're like, we're winter rizing the property, getting all the things on the spouts and stuff like that. And Dave's trying his best to belittle me with his handyman work. Taylor, when you come out here, do you work with that? I'm like, they No, I fucking don't. I don't do this. I'm here, I'm putting the thing on like I'm supposed to. I'm a domesticated cat. I don't know how to do these things. And he's like, well, don't you want to learn? No, No, I don't want to learn. I enjoy exactly where I'm at in life right now, growth in other categories. But anyway, Dave's coming. It's gonna be a great time. I can't wait to have them. I can't wait to have them. The day's gonna have his own, you know, Dave out there probably tell you mean macking up some ladies. He was over at my house yesterday asking about tailor's friend.

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Speaker 5: Aren't Dave, what are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh Dave. Dave's gonna be out there, man. Dave's also learned. Dave's also learned AI. He just kind of sends me AI photos of himself and he's like, did a photo shoot the other day and they're like showing him Michael Harley like that, Dave. I don't know much about technology, but I know for a fact that's not that's not you, So I know this is me. I also, and it's like him on like by on, like a helicopter, pat on, a skyscreper, Like, oh, Dave, when were you in New York?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there is that, you know, it's on his tender profile.

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Speaker 1: I feel like.

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Speaker 5: Parents, the older parents or grandparents like they love that vibe too. It's like whenever, like the big emojis, they figured out that they could send those to you. Yeah, when there's big characters like now the new wave might be a couple photos might put themselves in these AI photos. Man, that'll be fun though, little father son action.

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Speaker 2: Little father son action. He wants that. He was like, you know, bucket list to go to UFC event, would love to gamble with you all those things, and he's kind of hee. He's done that throughout the course of twenty five.

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Speaker 5: Dropping little eggs, drop little hand to the.

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Speaker 2: Point I'm like, do you want to come to Vegas? And he's like, oh, I I mean I'd love to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, if you want to come to dude, you're more than welcome to come on to Vegas. We'll have a good weekend. We have a good crew there. But I already know, I already know I'm gonna have a my dad is bragging on his son moment where I'm like having like that, can you stop? And I'm sure everybody else is like this is totally fine. Like this is just a father bragging on a son. But in my brain, I'm gonna have a heart. I have to, like, I have to see it, understand it's happening, and then just fall back and allow him to keep talking to whatever individual is having to suffer through that fifteen minutes. That's that's what I'm going. Come on, Dad, I tell this story all the time. Yeah. Oh yeah, hey they are. Here's one.

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Speaker 5: There's one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's Dave on a motorcycle. Send me that, all right, Dave.

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Speaker 5: Oh you know he's gonna get them dating profiles going.

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Speaker 2: George Washington, him in a chair, just in a suit.

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Speaker 5: Look he met George Washington.

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Speaker 2: Holy shit, I mean Dave. Dave got them arms though, Day's got them biceps. Try steps four steps are steps, He's got it all. He's body and George there, Yeah, George couldn't fucking handle Dave back in the day. There In no way did you mention if Dave was on the British side we might have English accents? Right, they've had that now. They got him done. At the knees. You got shaking knees like a son and stuff. I inherited the shaking knees.

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Speaker 5: How are you guys feeling about the Patty pimblet Justin Gaechee?

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Speaker 5: Jp our UFC Correspondent.

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Speaker 3: Seems like it's the Year of Patti pimblet. It's for the Interim Championship belt. I believe he's gonna get it, which is sad because Justin Gaechee legend of the game, has has given us so many great moments throughout his UFC career, and he could very well, just like any UFC fight, could come out of there with a W. But watching Patty versus Mike last time, it seems like Patti is a different kind of locked in right now. Yeah, And I'm excited because I'm also excited. Sean O'Malley is on that card too. He's fighting Songya Dong and Taylor was telling me about the podcast he was doing, talking about, man, how far have I fallen? I'm not even the comane all this stuff, and I think he's just setting it up perfectly for him to knock Songy Dong out and kind of give back to that.

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Speaker 1: That's sugar.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's gonna be a good week It's gonna be a good weekend for fan favorites. Fan favorites to catch a dob. I think Patty's hitting his stride after we did our Boy. That's heartbreaking, but he's kind of just been doing his thing and then Geechee. As much as everybody loves Geeche, he's like on the tail end. This is a great opportunity for Patty to take advantage of that. And then yeah, I think Sean O'Malley, after he rode so high like Icarus and has kind of fallen a little bit, he's addressed it. He talks about he talks down about himself, a little self deprecating humor in this pot about how much he just sucks now. And I think that's the perfect were talking about CJ Stroud this offseason type mentality, you know. Yeah, he's about the body bag the world. So that's I'm excited to go see that.

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Speaker 5: I'll get to watch my new little theater room.

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Speaker 2: Are you fully moved in?

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Speaker 5: We will be this week. We will be this week. Send a snow day, I know, in a snow day. But we got a nice little hill in the front yard. The kids are gonna love Daddy. Go down on the sled a little bit.

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Speaker 2: A hill in the front yard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we got a little hill. Got a little hill in the front yard. It's nice. I'm telling you, I'll send you a photo.

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Speaker 2: Send me a photo. I've asked Will multiple times. Was like, hey, may can I come see the house? Yeh kind of? I'm like check out.

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Speaker 5: One time twice, okay, maybe too, which is multiple?

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Speaker 2: He say no, I got to wait until this thing's all set up. I want he wants to have a big welcome welcome to the Compton estate, and I respect and love that. I'm just having a little fomo myself. I'm here that we're moving in, all the things are taking place. I'm like, can't wait to get my hands on that t sauna.

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Speaker 5: You have to come before you go off to Vegas?

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Speaker 2: Can I?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I would love too. I would love too, because.

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Speaker 3: Pretty much photo shoot at the new house or the old house.

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Speaker 5: The new one got you. We did a little We did a little quick, like thirty minute deal over at the new house. Get it was fun getting Scotty in a diaper and some little cowboy boots running around.

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Speaker 2: Kids in cal That's awesome. We're fired up for you. It's gonna be a nice little time. JP.

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Speaker 5: Costco guy, Yeah, over by Costco. Yeah. JP.

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Speaker 2: You were in Seattle this weekend.

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Speaker 3: I was man heard that stadium rocking all the way from Olympic National Park.

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Speaker 2: I did, man, how was it?

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Speaker 5: What you guys, do man.

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Speaker 1: We did.

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Speaker 3: We did a lot because we're really were there for just Saturday. So we went to Olympic National Park, hiked Hurricane Ridge, which was awesome. It's like a three mile loop and you get to see basically you look out to the left, you look to the water where like Canada would be on the other side of you look out to the right, it's back just all mountains going back, like more east and so full panoramic view of every kind of site you would want. Then we drove probably two and a half hours to this rainforest, the whole rainforest, and it was incredible. It's like mossy trees, the river flowing through. People were fly fishing on the drive there. The drive is just as awesome as the actual forest. So that was like a one and a half two mile hike in there. Then drive to Rialto Beach to catch the sunset, and could not have capped it off any any better.

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Speaker 1: Way.

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Speaker 3: The sun goes down, we're starting to leave, bald eagle flies.

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Speaker 1: Oh let's go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I took my hat off. I was on the phone with my mom at the time FaceTime, and I said, I gotta go. Hung up immediately call back to what happened, I said, America happened and uh gotta go. Yeah, but it was so cool.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: That was my first time out there. Then the next morning we got up early. We drove back to Seattle to go to Pike Place Market, which had this insane smoke salmon sandwich was so good. I saw the fish get tossed, which was which was fun.

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Speaker 5: But really cool.

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Speaker 3: I got to get back out there asap because there's so much to explore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and.

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Speaker 3: Does something to the soul when you're out there in that nature due.

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Speaker 2: That area, that area of the world.

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Speaker 5: Man, it's different.

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Speaker 2: It's very cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I guess it's like a maybe like what four hour drive to a Kelowna or.

00:23:28
Speaker 2: You take a thirty minute flight from Seattle to Kelowna, And that's anytime I like fly into Seattle, I spend a whole time there. It's like this is They're very similar as far as like landscape and everything like that. That's just awesome to be around Vancouver, bro, I know, I got I think it's Victoria Island. A chance to go there. It's so much fun. TYLM and I. She took me like off like fishing in Victoria Island and we're sitting there, got the everyone kind of doing the deal, like hey, this is where we fish. We're going, We're we're trolling, and they're like pointing out like that mountain ridge right there is America. That one's Canada. You're looking around those old islands everywhere. It is very fucking cool. My friend had tea the photo that Sherman's that we had tea in that building.

00:24:09
Speaker 5: That is sick.

00:24:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is incredible. And from Port Angels to get to Victoria Island is like an hour and a half faerry, So we were thinking about doing it because my friend lives there.

00:24:18
Speaker 2: But check that that's the building.

00:24:19
Speaker 3: It was canceled that like for the next three weeks, there's no ferry going to Victoria. But I'll be back out there for tariffs.

00:24:28
Speaker 2: They have a bunch of biplanes too.

00:24:29
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:24:30
Speaker 2: That was like just fly around that area and it's just so cool. A lot of orcas, a lot of orcas in that area, hotbed hotbed for the orcas, or a bunch of pods ripping around around there.

00:24:44
Speaker 5: You were bringing up the outdoors. You know who's gonna love the outdoors this weekend. Clay Matthews. Wow, the snowfall that comes down. If you got like stuff to right around outside in farm land and drive on, the lady will be going nuts at the four wheelers, four wheelers the gate or the side by sides pulling sleds on the back of that. Oh that's a different level and you would love that.

00:25:12
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can see myself loving that for sure.

00:25:14
Speaker 5: That's one where you look at you you shift the mental around a little bit differently because you're somebody who's accessed all these outdoor toys and you got a bunch of land to rip around the snow in.

00:25:24
Speaker 2: I don't deny that all that snow provides these types of things I'm talking about. I'm talking about the in between. Doug. That's a good day. You can get that done in three to five days. What you just said right there, I love three.

00:25:36
Speaker 5: Knowing you wake up each morning and get out in the land and rip around.

00:25:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, but do I the third day of doing that? Every day you're like, so, what do we do today? It's probably do the same.

00:25:46
Speaker 1: Thing, Taylor.

00:25:46
Speaker 3: They need to send us to Brian Peters new house in Idaho just for like a snow boot camp.

00:25:51
Speaker 2: Now, Bro There's something about when I see like people in like Norway or Sweden like do the saunas and they get out and then they jump into cold water. Like that's that's kind of nice. I like that. Then the towing. I there's a lot of activities. You knock those out in three to five days. That's why you go see the snow, enjoy the snow.

00:26:13
Speaker 5: Then you get into uh sure highlighting Hibachi night with the boys at the shop. What does that mean? Like have hibachi chefs come over and like do a Hibachi night here people shop.

00:26:29
Speaker 9: Could be kind of nice.

00:26:30
Speaker 5: It'll be nice, just like a dinner with the boys. Yeah, yeah, do what they come to you.

00:26:38
Speaker 9: They bring the the table and they cook it in front of you, so we can just set up tables however we want and they do a show for everybody. I think it could be good for the vlog, a little content game going.

00:26:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, fun vlog. Another one another one you got you also have on the list? Paintball?

00:26:57
Speaker 1: Yeah? Are we doing it?

00:26:59
Speaker 9: I just want I just want a pulse check because Jeremy had confirmed that we have a place that we could go paintball. It's really just finding a date to do it.

00:27:15
Speaker 5: So the play it's like a paintball spot clump. You've talked to him, so they're more than happy to have the boys out prepared for this.

00:27:21
Speaker 6: But uh, yes, there is a there's a place that will let us come. They'll shut down the whole place so we can just play every every course all day on top of them. I forget the name of what it is.

00:27:31
Speaker 2: I think Delaney took all the Titans out there to yell.

00:27:34
Speaker 6: I know is it's going to be sick. We just have to find a date and we can do our thing there.

00:27:40
Speaker 8: Like a goal you look for for the spring when it's a little warmer. Yeah, Saturday was a joke, but clean.

00:27:48
Speaker 1: That's clean.

00:27:51
Speaker 2: A lot of activities to do here up, But we can't paintball. Why can't we paintball on the snow boys. We're busy, we're busy on the fields. Yeah, three to five days exactly.

00:28:03
Speaker 5: It's a good clean take.

00:28:06
Speaker 2: And then there's the thawing process where it starts a thaw and then it melts down a little bit, but that night it goes back to freezing. So the next day you got a bunch of ice around. Black ice is everywhere.

00:28:15
Speaker 5: That's where you get to the text from all your parents, like my dad always be careful with the black ice.

00:28:20
Speaker 2: I got your dad, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I just like and they gotta worry about that. If it's not snowing outside.

00:28:28
Speaker 5: Great out for a video game in two and you have the snow days? Man, yeah you do that?

00:28:35
Speaker 2: Do you do that every every day of the year? But yeah, hey, you do every day of the year. Hey, you have to clean take. You guys can Actually, I promise you can play video games every day of the year if you wanted, regardless of the weather outside.

00:28:48
Speaker 5: Let's see if this is a clean take. Playing video games when the snow is outside hits different.

00:28:57
Speaker 8: Great clean take, great clean tape.

00:29:00
Speaker 2: Guys are getting a little you guys are gett You guys get a little oppressive with the different comments.

00:29:07
Speaker 7: The thing is, though, like for Will like what he's what you're saying, Like, say, it's like a Thursday, like any day during the league, Wednesday, Thursday, and you're starting to snow. It's like, boys, you're on the game with the fellas. You think we're gonna have school tomorrow. Bro, you know when.

00:29:21
Speaker 5: Those convos are going down and you're in high school or in any any any grade school, whatever.

00:29:25
Speaker 8: Stay up a little later.

00:29:28
Speaker 2: Ye I don't think kids have that anymore.

00:29:31
Speaker 5: I know you can just kind of get it up there on your phone on Twitter. There's no anticipation, bro, when you're standing in front of the TV just seeing the ticker go and then seen your county pop up.

00:29:40
Speaker 8: Yeah, nothing worse than seeing your county not get called or your.

00:29:45
Speaker 5: Arrival school get called and you not yet.

00:29:49
Speaker 1: Y'all go by, y'all go by counties.

00:29:52
Speaker 8: I think that's what yea, ours were counties.

00:29:54
Speaker 1: We PA was like individual school.

00:29:57
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you'd see nor Saint Pracs County.

00:30:00
Speaker 1: Did y'all get a like, so you did your whole county?

00:30:02
Speaker 5: No, No, it would be schools. It'd be by school.

00:30:04
Speaker 7: Did you guys have like two hour delays and stuff?

00:30:06
Speaker 5: Or we know we never had delays.

00:30:09
Speaker 8: We'd be like coming at ten. It's like, man, fuck this, I'm already up. I'm just going in now. Wade smokes a weed in the parking lotters.

00:30:16
Speaker 5: This is gonna help. This will help Taylor's case of anti snow.

00:30:21
Speaker 2: But the best I have the best I have the best case right now. My case is a lot. Somebody comments be like, oh, come on, that's good. Tier ones doing their thing.

00:30:33
Speaker 4: Is when it would snow and you'd get out of school and buy like noon or one o'clock, it's all melted, but you got the whole day.

00:30:40
Speaker 5: One of our boys, his dad.

00:30:41
Speaker 2: It was great going to school, getting a good education in the sunshine. That's great, dude, clean take. Caring about your education is so important.

00:30:49
Speaker 5: Proud of you.

00:30:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, when to sleep, you know what?

00:30:51
Speaker 5: You know?

00:30:51
Speaker 2: What's clean take? Not staying up late to wa wash the news to see for snow snow day, it's getting a full eight hours developing.

00:30:58
Speaker 4: Because you missed out on that as a child.

00:31:00
Speaker 2: Missed out.

00:31:01
Speaker 5: He missed out on that. And there was our boy, so one of our one of our boys, his dad was a superintendent, so he'd be the one getting up and driving around to see if we'd have school or not. So we'd always be hit him. Hey what your dad saying? Get him on the phone. It was a good clean take.

00:31:22
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:31:22
Speaker 7: My My clean take is that it's never too early for dinner. Brooke and I went to uh Sushi Son Uh.

00:31:32
Speaker 2: Say three pm?

00:31:33
Speaker 7: Well, we went at four pm. It was the only reservation that they had available all the guys said, Bro, you didn't even have to do that. But when I got there, the place was popping. It was a good amount of people there. The place was really good. But I mean, then you're done dinner at five thirty six. You could hit another spot later for dessert if you want, Like, if you.

00:31:57
Speaker 5: Want to full belly, can't lose a lot of the day.

00:32:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's a clean takes. A clean take.

00:32:04
Speaker 1: There's a lot more.

00:32:05
Speaker 7: Like you still have like the rest of your night, Like you can go home, chill for a little bit, and then it's like eight o'clock and like if you still want to go do something like so.

00:32:13
Speaker 5: Like you can go do it. I think you get away with time.

00:32:16
Speaker 4: I think you get away with that four pm dinner just because it gets dark a little early, but a four pm dinner when it's nice and warm out.

00:32:23
Speaker 1: You got two days left and then you can go somewhere get a drink.

00:32:27
Speaker 2: That's with everything, mit you're saying.

00:32:28
Speaker 5: Yeah, Also, I know across the board, all parents are on board with that clean take right there.

00:32:33
Speaker 2: There's not one parent that goes rather be an eight, like it's we dinner every night at five in the little one household, yeah, five, pop.

00:32:40
Speaker 5: You can get those reservations early. Go somewhere early. We had a six dinner and I think that's a sweet spot.

00:32:46
Speaker 1: Six.

00:32:47
Speaker 2: Start whinding down around seven. Brother, I like my five PM dinners.

00:32:50
Speaker 1: Four pm was kind of a vibe.

00:32:52
Speaker 7: Everybody was saying, like you're you're ridiculous, and like, I kind of fun with it.

00:32:57
Speaker 5: There's a lot.

00:33:00
Speaker 8: It was ridiculous, though, Is it okay if I go through this?

00:33:03
Speaker 1: I am because I am leaving.

00:33:05
Speaker 5: His congratulations to Brooks.

00:33:07
Speaker 8: She just finally graduated what is the PA school?

00:33:10
Speaker 7: She took her like board exam for PA.

00:33:12
Speaker 8: So Mitch on Wednesday, it was like he wanted to do something special for brook for this big milestone. So he's like, I'm going to get a reservation and he's.

00:33:21
Speaker 2: Asking about a restaurant called Craigs and I'm thinking he's doing this in a week or two and go ahead. Sorry, he was.

00:33:28
Speaker 8: Trying to get the reservation for the following day, so he only had four pm or nine thirty pm, and so he chose that, and then he also forgot he had his flag football game the same day. So it kind of was a win win for Mitch. Eat dinner at four get a nice digestion and then go play flag at eight Did you play flagger? Because it rained that night?

00:33:48
Speaker 1: Flag is indoors?

00:33:49
Speaker 8: Gotcha so and canceled pregame meal.

00:33:51
Speaker 1: Pre game meals.

00:33:53
Speaker 7: I ended up not going to Craigs like yeah, because she was like, we don't have to do that, but went to so she sign got full. It's like, I'm a good fool right now. I know in two hours I'll be like, everything will be digested and ready to play flag. Ripped around, play flag, shout out Jack BB he came. But yeah, I did want to do like something special for Brook. But then I was like, shit, I have a flag, yeah, garretts As did Brook make it game?

00:34:18
Speaker 1: Brooke did not?

00:34:19
Speaker 2: So what's ridiculous about this?

00:34:21
Speaker 1: It was?

00:34:22
Speaker 5: And it was kind of.

00:34:25
Speaker 1: Later on I say it's about it's clean.

00:34:28
Speaker 2: Take that's clean, clean, It's all clean. I think everything is clean here. I canna understand where you're coming from. I love the idea of a four o'clock dinner almost called it lunch, and I also love the idea of them saying it's ridiculous that you chose Flay football of your girlfriend.

00:34:43
Speaker 5: That's all good, clean, hitting the restaurants now getting.

00:34:47
Speaker 2: The Yeah, you know what's awesome, dude, When you live in a place you don't have to worry about the weather and all the sports are outside, that's a clean take.

00:34:58
Speaker 1: Inside.

00:34:59
Speaker 5: Huh.

00:34:59
Speaker 1: I'm still a.

00:35:01
Speaker 2: Turf man, turf knees hips, ankles, come on, Achilles, power plants. Like, there's a whole bunch to think about. There a whole bunch that's clean.

00:35:11
Speaker 5: Take, clean takes.

00:35:14
Speaker 2: Just patting my uncle, that's a clean one. Big news for busting with the boys. Uh, myself, Will Compton and Jeremy Clump. We'll be at SAM com this week on Wednesday? Is it Wednesday? Thursday? We'll fly in Wednesday.

00:35:28
Speaker 5: SAM stands for Sales and Marketing Communications Meeting. Yeah, clean take.

00:35:40
Speaker 2: Going out there. Will be on stage for a minute, have a little fun did after it and then it's Vegas.

00:35:47
Speaker 5: Rumor has it?

00:35:48
Speaker 6: Post Alone will also be there, gonna hang out with the boys. Open invite to Posty to hang out with the boys while we're there.

00:35:54
Speaker 2: Posty. Future Beer Olympics competitor, future Friend of the Show, White Everson, Love White Everson.

00:36:03
Speaker 1: Congratulation.

00:36:05
Speaker 2: Oh the girl won the one daughter?

00:36:08
Speaker 5: What is that one called?

00:36:09
Speaker 2: Who knows.

00:36:12
Speaker 5: Something like that, something like that.

00:36:15
Speaker 2: Still haven't heard that song, Still haven't heard. Yeah, he does a couple of Sturgel Simpson remakes him like this guy's sucking hand right now. He's doing this thing out there, clean post belone cannot miss clean take clean take.

00:36:30
Speaker 5: A shout out, no free shout outs. The new head coach in North County football White com.

00:36:40
Speaker 2: Big time in school history.

00:36:43
Speaker 5: He might be. I have no clue.

00:36:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, we.

00:36:49
Speaker 5: Go check out spring tour, fall tour.

00:36:52
Speaker 2: We got for a game?

00:36:56
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, head coaches his first head coaching job.

00:37:02
Speaker 2: Is he an offensive or defensive mind?

00:37:03
Speaker 5: He's an offensive mine offensive mind. So taking on the model of the NFL. I think he's got his quarterback.

00:37:09
Speaker 2: Who's doing a West Coast offense type of thing.

00:37:11
Speaker 5: I have no clue. Okay, No, he's an offensive guy. He's been the oc there for the past few years, but he's now taking over the rains North County head.

00:37:18
Speaker 2: What's that PPG he's been running with as the oc U.

00:37:21
Speaker 5: It's a good question. It's good question. I don't know.

00:37:25
Speaker 9: And he also is the youngest in school history.

00:37:28
Speaker 2: Wow, youngest history.

00:37:29
Speaker 5: Why shout out.

00:37:34
Speaker 2: On more for the kid that's awesome.

00:37:37
Speaker 5: We got to get the first state title this team's ever had.

00:37:40
Speaker 1: Ever.

00:37:42
Speaker 2: They couldn't get it with Billy Bob Bompton.

00:37:44
Speaker 5: No, no, no, farthest we got we got to the quarterfinals. But no, tough, you never sniffed. We didn't sniff it. We didn't sniff it.

00:37:53
Speaker 1: Man.

00:37:55
Speaker 5: They went to the quarters of the Semis a few years ago. But yeah, it's been like the farthest they've got. Well, no, that's a lie. In ninety seven they went to the state championship and got dummied by web City.

00:38:05
Speaker 2: Oh ninety seven a good Year, who was a nice championship in nineteen ninety seven?

00:38:10
Speaker 5: Will in what sport?

00:38:11
Speaker 2: College football?

00:38:12
Speaker 5: Michigan. That's what Michigan has, Michigan National Championship.

00:38:16
Speaker 2: Good Year got their schedule up for next year.

00:38:19
Speaker 5: Looks that looks familiar. It's a familiar looking schedule. Yeah, Farmington Arrival School.

00:38:25
Speaker 2: Oh, you guys played the in Week one.

00:38:27
Speaker 5: DeSoto Hillsboro Fastest windsor Saint Clair, Saint Clair's who took us out the quarterfinals my freshman year, Saint Genevieve.

00:38:37
Speaker 2: Because uh eight twenty eight is that week zero? Is that week zero? College college?

00:38:43
Speaker 5: Yeah?

00:38:44
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I loved it. Get I love to get out to that rivalry game.

00:38:49
Speaker 5: That would be fun.

00:38:50
Speaker 2: I loved to get out to Bontaire.

00:38:51
Speaker 9: I love that Bontaire in that area. You got the French Saint spelling and you got the English Saint spelling.

00:38:58
Speaker 2: That's that's fun.

00:38:59
Speaker 5: Yeah, fun.

00:39:00
Speaker 2: Bonteraira is also.

00:39:01
Speaker 5: Fringe, yes, or good Earth are good people one of those? It's all the same, man, But big this is this is lineage right here, this is bloodline. Grandfather went to North County. Well, he didn't go to North County. This is when the North County was split between the Bontaire Uh what was it? The Bontaire Bulldogs and the Deluge Tigers. North County forms becomes a family in nineteen sixty seven, the great integration. So my dad, he was a North County boy. He bled for the Blue and Gold. Your boy, will he see bled for the Blue and gold? My brothers now White's the head coach of the Blue and Gold.

00:39:37
Speaker 1: Man.

00:39:38
Speaker 2: Now let me ask you this, when White is the head coaching joke, did he make a phone call to his older brother asking to be a DC.

00:39:43
Speaker 5: No, he didn't call.

00:39:46
Speaker 2: No, he even mentioned it in passing.

00:39:48
Speaker 5: He talked about the interview process. But no, no, like me coming down.

00:39:52
Speaker 1: To health corn, what are you saying that?

00:39:57
Speaker 5: No, it's not below me. It's just gonna be hard to put on the podcast. No, I've been flirted.

00:40:02
Speaker 2: There's been everybody in the comments go, oh no, Will there's been a uh, you know, helping out your brother. Oh no, man, come on, that's that's beneath me. He said, I did say that. You said it with the shoulders.

00:40:17
Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying it be hard to pull me into the coaching world with the gig we have going on, because I've been flirted a couple jobs in the football world.

00:40:23
Speaker 2: To your boy, Yeah, there's a let me ask you this. Does it stand for knowledge? Have they called them? You know?

00:40:32
Speaker 5: LB's been conversations in the past. It's been conversations in the past. God break my heart if you left, Yeah, break mine?

00:40:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't hey, don't do it not yet.

00:40:45
Speaker 5: Okay, dude, did you give a clean take?

00:40:50
Speaker 1: Yeah?

00:40:50
Speaker 2: Wi clean?

00:40:51
Speaker 5: I think I gave a couple of clean takes, the Video game one and the snow Day one.

00:40:56
Speaker 2: Who said, who had this scene take that everybody was all about, that's.

00:41:01
Speaker 5: A good clean take.

00:41:03
Speaker 2: Stiffer. That's a clean take? Are we everybody else? Give you a good take? A clean take? What's your clean.

00:41:14
Speaker 5: Uh?

00:41:15
Speaker 6: My wife and I may have cracked a code of parenting for going out to eat with your children. Breakfast over dinner is the way. For some reason, we're like four in a row of just going out, no problems at all. Kids are hungry, they eat easy breakfast food in and out, so we get to go out have fun.

00:41:33
Speaker 5: Dinner is always tough.

00:41:34
Speaker 6: You don't know what the menus like, what the mac and cheese is like. If it's the one that JJ likes, the one he doesn't like, you'll get a pancake.

00:41:42
Speaker 5: That guy will throw.

00:41:42
Speaker 6: Down some pancakes. So yeah, yeah, Breakfast is a a clutch move as a parent to go out to eat with the kids.

00:41:50
Speaker 2: So clean take, clean take. That's a clean take. I like that take. I let that take. I like that take.

00:41:57
Speaker 5: Clean take. Should we get into jeff sim Jeffrey Simmons not the old quarterback for Nebraska.

00:42:04
Speaker 2: And of course thank you too.

00:42:06
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, everybody hearing all these clean takes, whether you're driving with them, whether you're not, all these clean takes come to us. Big thanks to Kevin's Natural Foods Clean Takes for all of our clean takes today. Thank you, yeah, thank you, thank you, good job. I love pausematic pause, do you what's up? Shout? I did? I just shout it out Wyatt and now and then we did a shout out. No free shout out for for Brooke, go ahead.

00:42:38
Speaker 3: Mini fast shot out, a free shout out. Somebody may have said this, Jack might have said this before. But when you land and you have a connecting flight, you get off the plane and you're still your next flight is at the same exact gate, so you have you don't have to go anywhere for it. You just hop on, go to the bathroom real quick, sit down for ten to fifteen minutes, get right back on.

00:42:56
Speaker 5: That good shout out, Thank you, thank you.

00:42:59
Speaker 2: Nice.

00:43:00
Speaker 3: Happened to me in Denver last yesterday. Actually so so nice.

00:43:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, shout out, nofre shout out. Nineties parenting when you look at the kids and you're like go outside, like what are we gonna do? Is like figure it out, gotta be out there, go out there and have fun, just really tricks them into complex thinking, Hey, how am I to get rid of this boredom? No, one's coming to save me. They go out there, they have a lot of fun. I enjoy just sending my kids outside and being like, I'll see you when I see you.

00:43:28
Speaker 5: Yeah, get the belt.

00:43:31
Speaker 2: Okay, it's the first Yeah, shut up, shut up beating your kids up.

00:43:36
Speaker 3: The first gen switch, the first gen switch.

00:43:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, my kids. That was when we and I told them because we were having a conversations about consequences, and it was like, you know, you get this what happened when you were a kid dead? And I was like, oh, the belt, the little the little stick that's not as it has to be thinner than your thumb, getting the switch, all those things and their faces when I was telling them like this, this is how consequences used to happen back in the day. Oh you have no idea. How good you have it? Do you no idea?

00:44:07
Speaker 5: Yeah?

00:44:10
Speaker 2: To switch, it has to be like lessen the width of your thumb. You have to find a stick out there. And they fucking let you know who's who in the zoo spoons?

00:44:20
Speaker 5: Yeah, wooden spooners.

00:44:23
Speaker 2: You know, you find out. You find out. These kids I look at them the wrong way and they're like, oh shit, oh ship Dad.

00:44:32
Speaker 9: Is soap on the tongue. Is that still fair game?

00:44:34
Speaker 2: Washing the mouth?

00:44:36
Speaker 1: Definitely?

00:44:38
Speaker 3: Now it's e m F E m F exposure.

00:44:41
Speaker 5: Punishment, hand on the back of the neck, just aggressively jog all over that. So we have a great question here to your talk with Martin Kinney. When you order it, guys listening to this one now, when you order a salad, do you prefer thin sliced cucumbers or a thicker slice peel on or off? For me, sliced size doesn't matter. However, if it is thin slice, leave the peel on. If thick, though, it better be bald. That peel will overwhelm the whole cucumber in the salad. I don't mind cucumbers.

00:45:21
Speaker 2: That's an overthought, take overanalyzing. Take here's my cucumbers on the salad.

00:45:27
Speaker 5: I like it thicker slice because I enjoy cucumbers.

00:45:30
Speaker 2: I like the crunch. You have, the crunch add the texture to your salad. Skin on, skin off? I feel like when you're asking for skin off cucumber, it's like, what are we asking for?

00:45:38
Speaker 5: Didn't even know that was like an option? I guyeah, I guess you could peel.

00:45:41
Speaker 2: It off, but that's crazy to me.

00:45:43
Speaker 5: Never my life breaking. You take the skin off the Greek salad?

00:45:46
Speaker 2: Please? Can you do the cumbers and just peel off the skin of it?

00:45:49
Speaker 1: Yeah?

00:45:50
Speaker 2: Fuck this guy, all right. I had the least clean take I've ever heard of my life asking for these cucumbers. That's crazy.

00:45:57
Speaker 9: So yeah, I love just the prefaces. I just love that this fan is so passionate that he put this on a football shows to your talk of something that we would talk about. I was like, I gotta put it on there.

00:46:09
Speaker 2: He's the one by Dev's fan eighty two. The New Jersey Devils will never win another Cup as long as Harris and Blitzer own the team and Tom Fitzgerald is the GM.

00:46:20
Speaker 5: I agree with that same.

00:46:21
Speaker 2: I've thought about these guys. I've thought to myself, he'll never win, They'll never make the playoffs with those three.

00:46:28
Speaker 1: Are looking good though.

00:46:30
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:46:31
Speaker 2: I like that they are.

00:46:32
Speaker 5: Only three games back.

00:46:33
Speaker 9: I believe they are two games back.

00:46:36
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. New Jersey Devils far from a Cup.

00:46:40
Speaker 2: Sacrilege if you really think about it.

00:46:42
Speaker 5: As long as Harrison Blitzer on the team and Tom Fitzgerald's a g.

00:46:45
Speaker 2: Tom Fitzgerald, I've always had a unless the ownership wants to go to the playoffs and win a cup. Yeah, a hot team for sure.

00:46:56
Speaker 9: For Tom, I would say that's a no brainer. But as far is like ownership, it's a little different in hockey.

00:47:03
Speaker 1: You know.

00:47:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, the jury's out man, Yeah right, you have to be seen. You have to be seen.

00:47:09
Speaker 5: That concludes our NHL talk. Jerry's out.

00:47:15
Speaker 2: Arizona is a hot bet for NHL players. Way more to talk.

00:47:20
Speaker 5: Good on your talk, Good on your talk, good on tier two.

00:47:22
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00:47:47
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll dive into it.

00:47:48
Speaker 2: And whatever he says, I'll probably just agree with because I really don't remember. Remember, big Dog, you said this is fuck you. Yeah, absolutely yes, mister big Jeff.

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00:49:00
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another wonderful interview of Busting with the boys. We have a legendary Titans guest with us today. Drafted, had an ACL situation training training for the predictor for the NFL draft. Four per time pro bowler twenty twenty five comes in this year, no belly, know nothing, just a whole bunch a ball of muscle gets his first All Pro. Big round of applause four. Jeffrey Simmons that first All Pro.

00:49:27
Speaker 5: Congrats me.

00:49:28
Speaker 2: It's because you you've obviously you've been extremely dominant when you came in. So let me just give you, guys, all the viewers, the view of how Jeffrey Simmons is in the building when he first got there. Guy's got an ACL, gets drafted eighteen overall, nineteen overall comes in the building. Can't do OTAs, can't do a rookie MINTI camp, can't do camp. But you're in there and everyone's kind of getting their jaw sets in the training room, you know how it is. And this guy, this cat who like can't play yet, is just talking shit to everybody. He's just like you trash you j'm a your ass who the fuck is this guy? And then Chargers game he plays, gets his first sack in the Chargers game, You're like, oh yo, this this Jeff Simmons. Cats got a little bit of asked to him. He's got something going on. Fast forward to four Pro Bowls, your first All Pro and it feels like to me, because you've had an incredible level of dominance, especially this year, is there a piece of you that thinks to yourself like, man if I was on a team with a higher that had a higher media market. Not taking anything away from the Titans at all, but if you play for like the Packers, the Cowboys, the Eagles, these teams the Steelers, are there multiple All pros in your back right now?

00:50:34
Speaker 1: I think so? But I also think it just the consistency, you know, throughout my career is like, you know, some games, especially you know, things I can't control, like injuries, you know, from the elbows to the meniscus to ankles. Like of course I had a couple of injuries here and there to where I missed a couple of games, but it didn't take away from when I'm out there, my present been felt. So I would say maybe that would play a big part of it. You know. I have always thought thought of that, especially later in my career now to where it's like bro We and then not just me, it's guys around like on the team. I mean, you you've been here, You've been in Tennessee, especially your career. You know the type of market. You know, the attension that we don't get here because it's been like this past year. I would feel like Sedrick gray Man, he's before he went out with the concussion, like he was second in the league and tackling. You know, I feel like guys like that had got no attention, especially this past season because of the market we was in. But on top of it, we didn't win no football game, so we could say the market. But I mean we haven't won no football games. I think winning solve everything.

00:51:50
Speaker 5: What do you feel like has happened over these last couple of years because you you you you came from the you were drafted, you've been around for rave, you were around that culture. Oh he's now in New England. You're watching him kind of them do their thing out there a lot of optimisms when Callahan came in, you get cam Ward this past year, But what do you feel like has been different from going from Rabel through Callahan to now you're looking at getting another head coach.

00:52:15
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say his best way without like because I don't know. We learned with Verbel not to compare. Yeah, so I think, but when you could, when you look at it from a player standpoint, it's like, what is it really our identity? You know? I feel like as a team, you know, and that was something something that I was trying to help find. I really feel like we really didn't have. I mean because later in the season we started running the football. It's like, damn, why we couldn't do this early in the season. I feel like that should have been all identity to start off with, to help a young quarterback. Which is no knock on the coaches or whatever, but I feel like going forward we have to fit. I mean, it's all start with the foundation. It's all over with the when you lay, just like building the house. If your foundation not there and not good, you had a ship the house. So I feel like when we first when Callahan first got in, and it's no not to CALLI Kala is a great guy. He was a great coach, you know. I don't think it was just the time for that, because you know, going from Veryber, I knew we all knew what it looked like. The guys who've been there at me hooked like we knew what it looked like to not let things slip. I feel like in the past, like you know, first maybe the year or so, when we got the coach and chain, we're going to the coaching change, and I mean you you guys saw the roster me we got what maybe six or seven rookies playing at one time at one point of the season. So it's like when you have for such a young team, what what can you really fall back on? What? What who are the Tennessee Titans? And what do we really stand for? And I guess that's we didn't have that. It's like we knew what Veryboy expected. And I was telling guys like the first day of meetings, and I remember l t As I was there because I had got my anchor cleaned up. And I get there and I see guys running around looking for notebooks and pencils. Verble first right last year he was here, and I guess it was the message that everybody was getting in the locker room. I'm talking about knew guys. Everybody coming in there with notebooks and pencil. I remember him saying, what do you got? What do you got ready to write down? I'm not gonna talk about nothing right now. And that's what you know. We knew what Verble expected and we knew what he wanted out of the team. Like God, the message was in the locker room, and it's like this past year and last year, it's just like we didn't have that because.

00:54:44
Speaker 5: With Braves, it's the vets are just letting the young guys. I'm ready write because he's gonna ask something and you're gonna be on the spot and you better have something, better be ready to go.

00:54:53
Speaker 2: Any Rooky Worth their Saul is like reaching out to a vat be like, what should I expect going into these team?

00:54:59
Speaker 1: I'm turning in Dallas and matter of fact, I'm at the pro Bo at Black last year, I'm at the pro Bo. I'm talking to Dre May. He's like, what about Rabel? What you think about Rabel? What should I expect? Like these guys asking this, it's like this last year when I'm out there in Dallas training and they gotta I think you play more special team. But he was like, Bro, everything you told me about Rabel, he wasn't lying, Like he asked hell a question. Mozel. He was here and he was like, Bro. He texted me. He was like, Bro, you wasn't lying, Like you know, everything you're saying about Rabel, it's true, like guys be on alert in t mes. He asking guys. He said, I'm not even playing. He asked me question. So it's been things like that to where you know, I'm not saying a coach have to do that, but it's also just that feeling in the building to where, yeah, we're gonna have fun, but we're gonna know how to do things before we even touch the football field. Because I mean, we all say it, like we say the lit things sometimes don't matter and whatever. But I feel like the things that happened off the football field in the means room lead onto the football field.

00:56:05
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I see a playout. And then this year we went to the Patriots camp and Will and I are walking around like, okay, like this is Rabe's first year. They went four and twelve. Last year. You look at the roster as a whole, and there's not like a bunch of names that you know, and you're like, they'll probably like double their win total, probably like an eight win team. You have to have cultural wins here and there. And then you see the turn on that they have and you're just like, oh, that is clearly the coach having everybody understand every situation and they just run it. Dude. The thing that frustrating the most watching you guys, as opposed to when Rabel was there was the time management. Dude, this is this is a safe space. We know Callahan's a good guy, he's a friend of the show, Like I'm a fan of him as a person, but from a coaching standpoint, he had so many blind spots where you kind of see when you're around Raves enough you see like, okay, he's got people in his left and right pocket during games stretch being one of them that is feeding them all him all the information that he knows, Like it takes so much for a coach to sit there and identify every situation with the with the play clock going on, with the time with your timeouts, was that a catch? Was it not a catch? Do I need to throw a red flag out here? And Ray would have the right people to be upstairs saying those things, and it just seemed like Callahan was kind of just a first time head coach that was like not he was thinking it all himself.

00:57:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, if Ray Bowys did a good job of like teaching, like the Friday tape like coaching technique. There's a play over the weekend against the Texas where I see I think it was Gonzale as the dB. He just shoots, he shoots his hand to get a BBU and I'm beautiful and everybody who's playing for Ray or I'm sitting there watching, I'm like, that is literally that'll be on the Friday Tape next week on something that was done well, taking the coaching to the football.

00:57:47
Speaker 1: Field as a well coach Broke, I mean we all like the Friday tape shit, bro Like it blew my mind. Like not like I said, it's not a knock to Callahan and the coaches, but it blew my mind because I came from Verbel, like I was away Verble for five years. But to see and he did a hell of a job, but to see Bones do the Friday tape and go over a couple of situations that was surprising. And I know Bones could be a freaking head coach, and I'm talking about special team coach. I'm sure he like Bone got the quality he got, the way he the way he connect with players, the way he get guys to play hard on special team. He could, in my opinion, he could be a head coach. But to see him doing the Friday tape, it was like, what the hell you know, why is maybe not the head coach doing it? Or why is you know someone else that could Bone not he open the special team, Like I'm not expecting our special team coordinated to do the Friday tape.

00:58:49
Speaker 5: Which he'd be surprised. It's not like every any every head coach I played for it like it's Raves had has had this certain style about him that's been different from all the other head.

00:58:58
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it was a bad thing, which I said, Bones do the hell of a job of knowing, like giving us a couple of situation, but it's like, you know, I feel like because our team was so young and like we're talking about Okay, let's go to the offense side with our defenside and play defense, We're talking about a certain situation and game. Do Bones really have the full attention of our young dvs. That's my thing. Like you know, I'm not saying and I said for me, like I'm I'm locked. I'm sitting in the front row. I see never changed. I'm sitting in the front row. I'm listening to bones. I'm locked in to the situation. But also, do you got the guys in the back who's a rookie that we're depending on right now? Are he really locked into the situation? They? I mean, are we gonna quiz these guys or you're gonna ask them? What's rabs? What situation is this? He used to point call guys, what situation we have?

00:59:53
Speaker 2: Like a whole like he pulled something on the screen and everybody would stare at the screen, like what situation is this? Because if he calls me, I don't want dumbing.

01:00:00
Speaker 5: From everybody else. You'd have to know both keys. For offense, you'd be at the lineman, big Jeff, what are the offensive team keys?

01:00:08
Speaker 2: He would never aspect Jeff.

01:00:13
Speaker 5: I bet he did when he was like his first year.

01:00:16
Speaker 1: He was asshole, But I was bro To this day, money Hook can sit beside me to this day, I still take down. When the special team coordinated up there giving the keys defense and offense. And I've been doing that since very because I guess I'm scarred, like I need I want to know every person like and then also just come with being a I guess the vet I am like, I want to know everybody keys so I can look at these things, maybe come up in a game where I could be like they go to red dot player just a guy who's been taking care of me, not taking care of him. So I still leader.

01:00:49
Speaker 5: You're able to speak on that if you do check somebody that's kind of like out of your whether it is special teams or out of your position, and then you're coming kind of correct with Hey, I listen to the same stuff you do, and I don't really need to know this stuff.

01:01:01
Speaker 1: That's why that's the reason why I do it too. I want because I mean I get guys like a couple of guys, especially young guys, like can I see your notes right quick? What did you write down? And then like they see me write down all because it's at the top all three phases of the keys, and then now like I take hell of notes. I mean, I'm not I'm not the guy when it comes down to film because you know, I get guys ask me what type of how much film I watch? After Wednesday, it's really cut off. Like Monday through Wednesday, I watch hell of tape because of course Wednesdays, Wednesday nights is third Down. Let me look at third Down. I mean, I'm not I'm not finna go watch and see how this guy blocking me? Like how is he an outside hand punch? Yes, I see that. But every time I get into a damn game, I'm getting a slide, I'm getting trap, trap pass, I'm getting all these different blocks. So it's like, I'm not crazy overwatching tape. But when I take my notes, especially getting all the information throughout the week, it's a lot of notes.

01:01:58
Speaker 2: What was hands operations? So just show people that are listening, Like Vrabel Monday, we'd all watched and correct the film. Wednesday he'd come in with the with the keys, keys the victory from an offensive, defensive, special team standpoint. He would hammer everybody that. When he came in Thursday, it was basically when we're doing a pop quiz on everything went over Wednesday, you do third Down on Thursday, Friday's red zone and the whole time. Yeah, in two minutes, the whole time. He's peppering you on the keys to win the game, the entire time, from Callahan's Monday to the game the night before, Like what was his process of how he got you guys ready.

01:02:33
Speaker 1: We're the same almost the same thing Monday, you know, of course, come in and have the team meeting and then you go and break it up. And of course I'm not gonna say too much too minute as you and it wasn't that like I feel like with all those the only the guy who really did all that was the nark. And we'll get to the defense side. But then, I mean Callahan will more of like you know, this why we lost the game? Man, same thing with kind of with McCay's kind of the same operation, like this how we lost the game. Showed a couple of plays. Sometimes we didn't show no plays. I don't think it was the time that we walked in there. He didn't show no plays. You know, sometime they did, they showed play, sometime they didn't.

01:03:17
Speaker 2: Like yeah, like, man, you had that thinks popping up.

01:03:22
Speaker 1: Like hopefully I don't be on his tape for loafing or something exactly. But in Tuesday, normally off day then you know, Wednesday is the same thing. You come in and get the keys. It's not an everyday thing to where in the past Fraber did it his way. He gave all the keys for every every phase. Maybe all d line coach come get a defensive keys, maybe a different receiver our receiver coach come get the offensive keys bones and Stu, which is a Stuart is the you know, assistant coach, especially in coach. Maybe he do the keys one day and that's how it was with the keys, Like no one the head coach didn't do it every single time. Every coach gave different and then the rest of the week pretty much the same thing. I mean, I was wanted two more, two minutes more than we did it. You know, two minutes wasn't a big thing that we did. I mean, which we didn't really get to two minutes like a lot this past season. But I still feel like in the situation like situation football, I feel like it's very needed doing practice, no matter when you do it. I think Callahan, did you know when we had our captain meeting and we kind of talked about it a little bit, and I was one of the guys said, I think we should do two minutes. You know, we started doing it, and then it's kind of I think doing training camp, we started doing it a little bit, and then later in more early in the season, right before he got fired. That's when I think we kind of started to pull back. We'll do it one week and not do it next week. And I think maybe it's go to some guys saying their body may be a little know, tired or still sore because we didn't do it on Fridays. You know, we try to do it on Fridays, but I guess they didn't like how practice lasted a little longer, so that was a decision they kind of took out. It took out the two minutes, but the week stayed the same. I mean the night before the games, we mean, y'all saw like the Premo videos, and I think that's all that was cool because especially when you knew the type of message that was trying to get across, you know, some of them was like, okay, you know, let me figure this out, like like what is the message? But when you got guys like Primo that story shure, y'all. I don't know if y'all saw it or not to where basically it was just a teamwork that if one person off flying the jet there was flying, the whole thing screwed up. And I ended up getting that message pretty fast because I'm like, all right, it makes sense. We all need to pull together and do this together. But side of that, bro, we didn't do the know how. We used to be able to have to be at the stadium and meeting in our rooms. We didn't do that. Everybody just had to be in the stadium at a certain time, but never never just got together right before the game.

01:06:09
Speaker 2: When you guys are the season is going the way it is. You just had a little juice at the end of the year. But like when you're in the middle, like late October, and you're like, fuck man once again, like this is another season. We're not making the playoffs. And you peer over in the AFC and you see Rabel and the Patriots doing what they're doing, like you and Hook and whoever else has been around Verbel. I don't even know if there's anybody else in that team, are you guys kind of like, man, look at this motherfucker, and what are you doing with this squad?

01:06:37
Speaker 1: I mean, it's that's the nature that's the nature. I'm no, I didn't do that because that's that's yeah, yeah, I did. We talked about it in the locker room, guys on and Key being around them. Yeah, you know Morgan, these guys was in the locker of course, Morgan not gonna come over and say it, but you know, guys, they're gonna speak their mind like damn like this, like what if we could be in that situation right now. But that's also like I said, it's I mean, props are very you know when you when you're talking to guys that played for the Patriots and you see the interviews, you watching them play like you know, I mean they got every coach that was pretty much was in Tennessee. When you turn on on the games, you look on the sideline, I got pretty much everybody over there. And then when you when you're watching them play, like that's verbal style of the way he get his guy to play, and I think that's that's a testament to him and to get guys like I mean, we saw all the crazy stuff about Stephan and Diggs in the past. Oh he's a diva, he did and that now one time have we heard that in New England.

01:07:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just putting licking emojis on Instagram. He's just having fun off the field.

01:07:50
Speaker 1: With you.

01:07:51
Speaker 5: But I'm just saying that you've seen this style that we've understood to be. You see him as a guy who is clearly like all the way bought into every thing playing football.

01:08:00
Speaker 1: Yeah that's my point. And I'm just like, and I never said that to nobody, like, but today I'm like, no one. We always see that when guys on the other like I said with step fund It, but when you turn on that the game keep I keep wanting to say, tape when you turn on the TV and see these guys players, like damn, just what if you know it's not one of the things where no, I do not want to go to New England like they can have I want to go to I guarantee he ready to tweet that. You know, I'm not saying I want to go to New England. But it's fun to see because that's what I know, Like I know the type of study player, and that's what you know. It's exciting to see like no heat against them.

01:08:44
Speaker 5: When did you know that you guys are gonna When did you start to feel that we're about to have another one of these years. Obviously Cali got fired early, but how early in the season were you like, I.

01:08:58
Speaker 1: Feel like, once we want, we end up going like I think it was like at a point it was after the the Raiders game because I'm like, that's no way we just lost to this team. We shouldn't never lost this game. And it's just like because like even the Arizona game, I'm like, what are we doing? Like I don't get me wrong, like teams got good and it's not like when we look at our roster, maybe our roster not better. But when you turn on the tape and you watching these teams, you're like, we should not lose to this team, Arizona and the Raiders them early games, I'm like, we should not lose to these team. So I'm watching it and I'm doing doing the Arizona game, I'm like, what are we doing? And everybody you know, I don't even I was happy to say, hell, we won that game, but when you go turn on that tape, he was like, what are we.

01:09:49
Speaker 5: Like, it shouldn't even been close.

01:09:51
Speaker 1: It's like, bro, And then it's just like just imagine because I mean, the guy running out that broke the big run. And because I'm talking about fus as defense, like I'm watching this, I'm like, we are playing like shit. Yes we made a couple of good players in that game, but the stuff that we are doing is just uncharacteristic of our defense. The big run, like see that big split in all defense and you see this running back running eighty yard nfield and just so happened funer the football in the zone. It's not like we did something magic. He fum of the football. They called an interception and fun of the football and we recovered in in zone. So it's like things like that to like, man, I'm like, this is the type of season were about to have. And then when we went to Vegas and lost to Vegas, I'm like, all right, all right. I'm like, all right, Jeff, let's just play your best ball, Like whatever you do is your femi, your resume. Go out there and play as hard as you can and try to keep his team together, because I mean, we felt it.

01:10:58
Speaker 2: Like people people are so critical about like these athletes are making so much money, they should feel fine whether we're winning or losing. But there is something to be said about when you're halfway through the season. You can't see the start and definitely can't see the end, but you know it's over. Like you understand, like we're not a team that's gonna be able to compete.

01:11:15
Speaker 5: Want to.

01:11:15
Speaker 2: It takes to be like I have to figure out some sort of why to get this done, especially when it's a cat like you who first three years you're in the playoffs, you're making deep runs in the playoffs. You're the one season in the playoffs. Going from that to not making the playoffs at all, that's hard.

01:11:31
Speaker 1: I don't know why people, I mean, of course they on the outside are looking at it. It's like, I'll just lose these games, get us some draft feel, to get us have a draft pick, Like, Bro, I don't want to hear this shit right now. I don't care about draft pick. I want to win football game. But then you get out there and you just like what Bro. Then you get in and then you can come back and watch tape though, and he was like, only if we do our jobs, because you come we come in the defensive meeting room. Bro, it's a lot of games. Yes, you know, I tried not to worry about the offense. Yes, we were struggling earlier in the season. Again they started figuring out. But when you come in, you hear Thenard talking and he's showing twenty five clips the explosive plays, and you see guys making up shit in our defense and they would just do their job. And well, I'm saying not Dave, because it's been some players where he pointed me out. But we just did our job in them games. Who knows how our season went bro And that's the unstrue. Like when you when we went in there in our defensive meeting and then show showed us the plays that they scored on, it's just gods, just mistackles. Guy's not doing their job.

01:12:47
Speaker 5: What's the what's like the player culture like as the season's unfolding, Because again, I know, we keep going back to the comparison of the culture a variable and the culture of this. But you're also on the spot too to where you you came there was good vets here, you became a leader in your own right. You are now like the leader for the Titans, or one of them anyway, And when stuff like this is happening, what is it like like around the player culture? Like you getting spots where you might say something every now and then, but maybe the cracks were in the foundation before that to where there's really no saving what's going on or getting guys' heads wrapped around how serious this is, or like what was the feeling throughout the season, like when these moments were happening. Is it more just like you're kind of sitting and be like, I'm just gonna fucking these guys. You're you're not like wanting to say these guys don't care. They might not get it, but I'm just gonna put my head down to work.

01:13:35
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't a time that I wasn't quiet. I mean that I wasn't talking. I should say loss. You know, lost a lot, so of course I was trying to talk. But even after the wins, like the one we lost, the one we end up winning, I forgot what game it was, and you know, I think it was the Cleveland game. And at the moment, you know, can War kind of pissed. You know, I'm sure y'all saw that, like he was like, you know, it wasn't good enough.

01:14:05
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, when he was getting.

01:14:10
Speaker 1: And I understand I understood it later because when you turn on the tape, he didn't play the way he wanted to play. And as a team another game to where they got good players males Garrett, but we eliminated him that game. We should have did way more in the game in his opinion, But the same thing early in the season to where to where, and I go back to when you turn on the tape, God just not doing their job. And so when I when I speak and when I was speaking in the and to the team, it wasn't trying to attack guys. And I think that's what the hardest part about about leading. You guys have been in the locker room. I think the hardest part about leading is how can I get through certain guys because I know if I say certain things to if I say certain thing, this guy gonna think I'm talking about him directly and he gonna try to I guess like he's going emotionally. And that was the hardest part for me, especially the last two years. Like the court this year was way better, but like even last year, caller first year and everything because his way, like the way Kali wanted to lead and the way he was leading, it wasn't so much of like I'm finna be hard on your ass like like this this is like for real, like you know, the hard truth. Sometimes I think and I think we was.

01:15:34
Speaker 5: Trying to build on good moments and.

01:15:36
Speaker 1: Yeah it's like no, hell no, I mean and I remember and me and I'm sure mccordon Miami sharing is like, you know, it was one game, we end up losing the game, and I was pissed the comments that was in the locker room a little bit, and because I think, yes, TP was having like a rough year, and you know, I think he ended up breaking. You know, he had a good game to where I mean, we had good game. I don't think we had one hundred rushing yards, but yeah, And there was one of them games to where they was kind of congratulating some guys in the locker room. I'm like, what the fuck are we talking about? Like we just got beat and we didn't have over one hundred rushing yards, but were congratulating certain guys and the old line, what do we do? We didn't have a hundred your rushing yards but were okay with okay things. We're not okay with great and like the good Then the next week we'd come back and rush for almost two hundred yards or whatever. May be that's what you're supposed to congratulate. I feel like when you, when you the standards is here, then the guys around gonna be okay with that. And for me, it was more how can I not let guys be comfortable? How can I not let guys be okay with being okay? Because I want to win football games and just being okay, you want win football games? The lead everything got to be up here, like the standards got to be high. You got to hold your yourself to a higher standard. And I feel like that's what that was my thing as a leader, because yeah, I was. I was. At some points it was just like, all right, I can't certain certain things. But at some point it's just like I'm tired of being a nice guy. I'm tired of saying certain things that guys want to hear because the hard truth is sometimes the best thing to saying. We're grown man. If you take things personal in the locker room, then I don't know what day like this is a grown man's sport. Like I said, sometimes you got to know how to lead and get to certain guys. But I mean when y'all came in the league, y'all vets didn't talk to y'all nice. I'm sure like everybody would talking about like like you gotta you gotta know how to do it. But it's also one of the things to where like I said, I was asking for advice, I was I'm calling my uncle, I'm calling guys that he played the markers were like, I'm asking him, how can I get, you know, through certain guys. How can I talk to these guys to.

01:18:07
Speaker 5: How can I get the message?

01:18:08
Speaker 1: Yeah? And he of course, like I got some great points from him, and it helped me a lot as a leader this past year. So and but I think that was a long answer to answer your question. The locker room itself never split. We had moments. We had moments to where maybe I did say something and offensive lineman may got mad, or maybe I did say something that you know, somebody on the back end didn't like at the time. But I would say as a locker room, we never kind of started splitting, as to maybe the media maybe saying something like, oh see if they gonna lose the locker room. Because I'm a big I'm a big believer leadership is from within. We could keep this locker room together. Guys could keep the locker room together no matter what what we're going through in the season. We could. That's the reason why you know, we're doing things out throughout the season. Let's have a Halloween something's let's do something right here. Let's make sure like after the season, you know, I wanted to do something for the whole team. I invited the whole team, did like a private party just for the team. Like y'all understand that. You know, yes, this was a hard season, but we stood. We stood together, we stuck together, and we made it through. You know, we wasn't a good season. We made it through.

01:19:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the hard things about being I'm assuming a head coach that comes in a little lighter footed than Rabel was. Because what Rabel was able to do in like twenty eighteen, when he first came in, there was a lot of criticism onlike, yo, he is an asshole. This guy is difficult to be around. But as success started to happen, he would let off the rains a little bit and allow guys to be who they are. So when that that standard you had ever wavered, Rabel could easily go back to this and it's like well, that's the verbel. We understand what his standard is because he's shown the hard part earlier. We can get right back to that. From Callahan's it sounds like Callan came in a little lighter, happy to be around. Look at of us, Kumbai, y'aw, hey, look at all the good things we didn't even though we lost. And then when it really comes crunch down, it's like we're spiraling. If he went and was hard on the guys all of a sudden, that's when you lose a locker room completely. So it's almost better to be extremely critical of your players, break them down, foundationally, build them back up, and then be able to be their friends a coach.

01:20:25
Speaker 1: You know, like I said, it's no knock like we're knocking cal I love Callahan, like I takes Calaham like right now, like you know here respond But it just when you're talking about the NFL, he saw with the this morning with the with Buffalo with Buffalo, Like, I'm sure that guy's a great leader. He's I'm sure he hardest, heals on the players, he loved his players. But this lead is about winning. You don't win football games you don't get the teams to where they need to be an amount of time you're gone, so to the nice. Being nice is not the way this thing is gonna work. You have to set your foundation. You have to have a strong set foundation.

01:21:11
Speaker 2: What was Callahan's demeanor early this year, like before the firing?

01:21:16
Speaker 5: Did it?

01:21:17
Speaker 2: Did you see a change coming? You're like, oh, he kind of knows or was it the same guy?

01:21:21
Speaker 1: Nah? I was that one thing Keli didn't do. He didn't from the game we lost to I think because he was still there when we won against Arizona, Like up until that point, you didn't feel nothing, like I didn't. I was surprised. I didn't know that was going to make that move. I mean you kept like, of course, been on social media. You see certain things and you read it and all the tweets this and that. But week six, like I didn't respect I met my daughter gymnastic like gym nasty, and I get a phone call to you know, talking about this and I'm like what the hell, Like this really just happened, and I'm like wow. But like I said, I didn't I didn't expect that to happen that early, you know, even if because I didn't know it was gonna happen, I should say, but I didn't sure didn't expect it to happen earlier.

01:22:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, but what was it like with the transitions coach McCoy him stepping in.

01:22:17
Speaker 1: I mean it was McCoy did change some things up. I mean, I'm sure you guys saw what the practice temple guys been. The guys were talking about throughout the season. He did want to temple, you know how. You know, I remember when he first came into the captain meaning, he was like, one big thing I want to change is you know, especially when you guys on defense and the scout team break the huddle, you got receivers breaking the hudder before the whole hodder. Like, he was like, that's one big thing. He like, were cutting that shit out, Like, you know, he was like, I want things to be ran. I want temple and practice to get up. And you know the way he you know, I would give him his proper you know, he he did a hell of a job of also keeping his team together also you know, making it you know, I mean, he knew what is I guess we might have been in this league for a while now, he knew what kind of expect especially throughout the coaching change and how maybe the locker room would maybe react. I want to say he did a hell of a job of keeping us together. You know, he was you know, he made sure he met with the captains, He came, he came, He was coming to me a lot, like you know, it's anything we need to do it? Do I need to change anything? You know, ask captains do they have anything? Were coming too? The captain means on Wednesday, do y'all have anything? What can I do better? So he was doing the hell of a job. And then in the transition as a head coaches, it's just about leading the football team. And I think, you know, he stepped in and did his job, and he did a hell of a job at it. And like I said, yes, do we wish we could have won more games? And yes, but I think in his position and the way he stepped in and filled that role, I think it was unbelievable to see. You know, a lot of people may wanted somebody else at that spot, as I say, when you read them things like you know, why not denoy it? Why not bones? But I think them guys were able to do their job and you know, not have a hiccup and they might stepped in and did a good job.

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01:27:02
Speaker 2: When we're we're sitting here now and there's no head coach for the Titans. You, uh, your guarantee is almost up all the way up somewhat up. There's a there's a level there. Yeah, but there's ten head coaching vacancies right now. There's a lot of names being thrown around. When you see those names, like what sparks your interests? Is it a defensive mind head coach and you're like, hey, we've seen a good DC or do you think an offensive minor head coach? Like if you're if you're Jeffrey Simmons and you're owning the Tennessee Titans and you see what the holes are, what is your thought process?

01:27:31
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like with a what a defensive head coach? I mean Very was it? You can say Very was everything because he sway he could go over there and coach you damn quarterback.

01:27:41
Speaker 2: He came in the offensive line room like he would. We would come in our room and Keith Carter would be telling us, don't do this on your technique, on the backside of gaps, game, don't pass set, none of that, and everybody would walk in five minutes later. But hey, on the backside of gaps game, Like why don't you guys just like.

01:27:57
Speaker 1: Pass that the field?

01:28:00
Speaker 2: It was always Rabel can't coach everybody in Rabel's.

01:28:03
Speaker 1: Mind, But I would say just you know, because when you're talking about because it's it's gonna be a lot of it's a lot of coaches available. I mean, especially when you see the interviews and you see some of the guys that they interview, you see like, okay, these guys is they got a good resume. But for me, as a defensive player, I was love a defensive head coach, you know, but he being a you know, the player I am, whoever come in, I just want to win football game. Can we get a guy who was a winner, a guy who could come in and set a great foundation and a great culture and get your thing back to win the football games. But of course, you know, I would love the defensive head coach because especially if he's a defensive front guy. You know, if he let his defensive front gone not a D line, not a D line coach.

01:28:53
Speaker 2: As wants to wants a defensive coach that a lots of defense line to do whatever they want to figure out it up. You just go you guys. Just let these boys go.

01:29:05
Speaker 1: Man, listen you okay, We're just talking about guys that interview, Like, I mean that's available from the d C from the forty Niners. You got you got the d C from the Broncos, right, I.

01:29:19
Speaker 5: Mean Vikings with Brian Florida.

01:29:21
Speaker 1: You look at the halfway look at the defense that we the guys that's available in that interviewing right now, their defense is led up front. But like if you can rush four to five, my my my thing is rush five. Give me some one on one. The Broncos it's hard to block them up front because they rushing five. THEMN there every snap. And it's just like when you when you get guys like that that can let their front. Because I feel like when you when you playing defense and when you try to go so much of scheme versus players ain't gonna be good. I feel like when you let your best players, like all strengths was all defensive front, this passion like we can say what it won't but all strength from me sweat. You got the guys up front when we played all best ball, it was because the defensive line had a great game. Yes, we get some you know, maybe an interception here there or whatever on the back end, But what's causing them interception? And I feel like when you let your d line go and eat and maybe rush five and now they got a five. Oh offensive line hate five, especially centers because they can't. The worst athletes on the all line. That's just what it is.

01:30:41
Speaker 2: Everybody's one on one. You're not getting help anywhere is terrified you put.

01:30:44
Speaker 1: Your put your worst put me over the center on third down one on one. They not blocking me. So it's like, whoever give me a one on one line of my up against Taylor one on one?

01:30:57
Speaker 2: That's fine, but well, you know what pisses me off is when like Chris Jones will line up on the end sometimes and I watched these tackles like vertical set you. I'm thinking, bro, what the fuck are you thinking? Like anytime Chris Jones are a big guy who would come up and be like, oh, we're playing basketball. There's no way I'm gonna allow you to just have a running start at my.

01:31:18
Speaker 1: Face fast wipe though. You know, if I know you jumped me, what if I fast wipe, but inside moves.

01:31:24
Speaker 2: Buddy, I'll take that over me. Just backing up, and you mean like.

01:31:29
Speaker 1: I didn't do that.

01:31:29
Speaker 2: I mean, when you do the guards, I'm thinking to myself, Jesus Christ.

01:31:32
Speaker 1: I mean I was to your point because I trained with Trent Brown, like I see this type of sets, he dude, And I mean he missed it up on me one time when we're doing get off in one on ones, not full speed in all season, but when playing into Texans, and I told Art and switched with me because I'm like, I'm just keeping the side, keeping the side. And it was a play that I'm like, switch with me. But I'm like, oh fuck Trent big As. It was like the play that I went, I end up switch. I'm like TP. But when I got off the ball, I saw he set me. Then I saw him trying to punch me. I swiped his hand and got the sack. I'm like, you know, like this is this is fun to be on the edge, Like I could do this, I could play on it, I could get off maybe on some something. I'm not ever down God to be out there on the edge, but now I could have the freedom to move around. But and then on that play, it was a play they had to five O. So now the running back not on my side. I'm not getting chipped a tight end out of the core. Got one on one with one of the biggest month, probably the biggest. But yeah, man, I just hopefully we can get somebody here and just defense, defensive coach.

01:32:45
Speaker 2: Defensive coach.

01:32:46
Speaker 1: Want to guess what? You go get your guess what I ain't taking. I know Cam Cam, especially with Cam in the quarterback, he may want the offensive guy, but offensive guy, but it's a lot of it's a lot of good coordinator. Is that offensive coaches that May he got just got fired and May won't get ahead coaching job. Now, just go off him a nice contract to be the O C.

01:33:09
Speaker 5: That's the like kind of secret right because that's what raves just guy with McDaniel, it's like that's dude, that's been like the secret ingredient with Drake May.

01:33:15
Speaker 1: That's my point.

01:33:16
Speaker 5: You kind of need you need that situation. You don't need an up and come ROAs.

01:33:21
Speaker 1: You got to be there for a year. Get ahead, you got you gotta you gotta get you a like somebody who could lock in with that. We could get Cam rollon because I mean, we get a defensive head coach. You can't go get will to come call it down and coach Cam up. I'm sure verbe over there thinking, I'm sure he probably over there trying to act like he coaching Drake up and it's McDaniel probably, so.

01:33:44
Speaker 5: You don't he won't say nothing. He'll take the credit.

01:33:49
Speaker 2: Was in a unique place because his o C, who's been so great, he's already had two stints as a head coach and they've gone horrible. So he's this, he's now like put himself in like he will always being OC from here on out unless something unforeseen happens. So Rave is in a great spot with that defensive amount of guy in OC that's never going to go anywhere because anytime you have offensive success in a big way, that that guy's gone. He's either what you're looking for is I think what Jack brought up, which is a beautiful dream to have, which is Robert Sola as your head coach and Mike McDaniels. You're o C.

01:34:23
Speaker 5: That's gonna start picking them on, just start.

01:34:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's ten hood coaching vacancies, but let me get two of the top dogs and put him on one team.

01:34:30
Speaker 1: Put the names in the hat.

01:34:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, put the name in the hat.

01:34:33
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't say that right now, but yeah, I don't sound like a bad coaching.

01:34:39
Speaker 5: It's not a bad nick combo right there, right. How how's the relationship with Cam?

01:34:44
Speaker 1: It's good man. We you know, of course, my first time now y'all talk ship. Yeah, that's part of it. I feel like that's part of my first time me and Cam. We had like the lid I think with d Hop was that d Hop. I think d Hop, even though he was here actually on the team, he had like a I think it was like a get together or birthday. I think it was a birthday party. And of course, like we all came, it was right before OTA's mandatory many camp it was, and I remember seeing Cam and he came in and you know, of course we introduced. That's my first time meeting him, and that was that was in June and I saw him and from that point from that time, when I walked up to camp and we were talking, we started talking shit instantly. It was like because I heard I was like, I heard you been talking to hell shit and I heard you been you know, having fun with the list seven or seven or whatever y'all been doing. And he was like, yeah, I'm a slight shallow as up too. He said, you'll see, and I'm like, okay, this is what it is. Huh. And then from that point I can't remember exactly what we're saying about. Of course I started talking shit to him, and then you know, we get to training camp and it was the same thing. I think, even with the stuff that was on social media and they're talking about the fight, it wasn't. It was literally you know, it was a rough day. It was a rough day for the offense. They started off kind of slow and we was out. You know, men, I talk of hell of shit, like I'm it's just not just in the game. This is to my teammate, just at practice and we talked of hell of smack and we was in the red zone. It was a day before. The day before, we beat the hell out of the offense because Donor he had this system to where we're Italian every single play did we lose or win this play, and we was killing the offense. We were killing the offense and like we was kicking the ass. But the next day it was red zone and you know, we started out good whatever because we do do the inside runs and we brought that back the inside run, so we shut that down. Next period seven or seven whatever, then we get the red zone and you know me that we stopped him. I'm talking ship to camp. The next play he fucking threw a touchdown to rid and back of the one, I think, and I'm like, fuck, I'm like, he come and so he's came to me talking ship and he you know, of course at that point, I'm pissed. I'm like, what are we doing? We just gave up a touchdown like it's I think because I think it was actually Mood and Field. Maybe it was Mood and Field. I think it was MOODI Field wasn't actually re zone, but we was moving the field and they got in the rezone and scored, and I'm like, what are we doing? Dv's like now I got to hear this mother man he got and he did that ship. I'm like that made me even I'm like, I'm pissed for real now. So then he came. He came up to me and kind of like gave me a shove, and it was like, did this motherfucker just push me like that? Well, I'm already pissed off, So it was like a reaction, not of like let me beat his ass, but it was like reaction to.

01:37:45
Speaker 2: Like another man put his hands on Like it wasn't even that.

01:37:47
Speaker 1: It was more like in the heat of the moment to beat but then it wasn't noring, but like I kind of pushed him, but it the ophensive lineman and he come to miss the bad asses, like all the whole linemen. They're trying to protake the quarterback. Here they go. So I'm like, then that's that's when they started pushing. I'm starting and grabbed. I forgot who I grab and I'm it's kind of just like a pushing shove. It wasn't no punches, got thrown to nothing. But that's all started because of course Cam doing his damn celebration and he kind of bumped me.

01:38:23
Speaker 2: It was like, hold on, he kind of bump you or did he push you?

01:38:29
Speaker 1: It was it was more like a you know, like talking about ship. It wasn't like a mean push.

01:38:34
Speaker 5: I can't beat him up, ship.

01:38:36
Speaker 2: I heard that.

01:38:38
Speaker 5: Can't put his hands on him, and he came off shoved him.

01:38:41
Speaker 2: I can't beat his ass, and then Buck Rising was like, fuck you, Jeff Sivens.

01:38:47
Speaker 1: He beat your.

01:38:48
Speaker 10: Ass, cam Man, he's feeling that great.

01:38:58
Speaker 2: How is your leadership have developed from on the field antics to the locker room?

01:39:03
Speaker 1: Do you bring it to the locker room with the smack talk to it with people? No, no, no, I see I don't for me because I didn't mean offense alignments. Like we we go at it. Man, I feel like linebackers or whatever, they do their drills and maybe they got seven on seven. When we start hitting each other one on one, it's kind of but it's the truth. We go from individuals. We all know. It's like we always moving, and then we go straight to one one.

01:39:34
Speaker 5: On the snap we go.

01:39:37
Speaker 2: I've seen your individuals. You over there, that big T dying over there. Sorry you should. This man is taking a Knee's not that bad.

01:39:55
Speaker 1: Don't say I be. I'm not saying I'll be dead individual, but I'm saying from when we go straight to we go to straight to one on ones, then we go to the inside run, then we go to teams. It's like from that point on it some player, the linebackers or quarterbacks or receiver, they might not even get touched, but it's like a long day of the backfield. Well, we didn't leave you on no damn running back. But I'm just saying, like the temper is gonna flare, like it's gonna happen. But then it's like after practice is made hell. Sometimes Calu may have me break it down on purpose to where I'm like, you know, ship, like this is gonna happen when we walk out this football field. You know, it's still the brotherhood. It's still that's the reason why we play the game. But now because we are teammates, we are we're trying to win the football game, and we're working to win the football games. So I wasn't I'm not a guy that if I get into it with Tony Pollard on the football field, not Finn could bring it into the locker room and be like, you know, like I want to really fight you, because I mean, what is gonna get me.

01:41:05
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a hypothetical. Let's say you're in the middle of dog days in camp. It's mid August, right, there's a two minute drill taking place. You guys run to zone, blitz the right side. The left tackle pads pads. Left tackle kind of gives you a bank on the hip. You go flying left tackle runs down the field, you chasing him and trying to fight him or no.

01:41:25
Speaker 1: It depends what if I'm tired.

01:41:30
Speaker 2: After that play, if I'm doing the locker room and standing over him trying to fight him.

01:41:34
Speaker 1: Listen, because I don't know where you're trying to get at right now.

01:41:37
Speaker 2: You don't know what I'm trying to get at.

01:41:38
Speaker 1: No, but sounds like.

01:41:41
Speaker 2: That, Oh, this is, this is We have to be worried about Jeff's mental health if he's not remembering the situation.

01:41:48
Speaker 1: Listen, it had to be some other ship leading up to it, because it's not just gonna be one play that gonna make because I'm I mean, shit happened. But I really realize. I think that play that you bringing back up that happened a couple of years ago. It's crazy that you can remember that and not that damn gold necklace.

01:42:04
Speaker 2: But.

01:42:06
Speaker 1: The fact that the fact that you brought that up that day, now that I'm thinking about the ship started individual and and uh team seven or seven to one on ones. It started back there. You remember that we got into it and doing one on one. So I beat Rogers Southfold. I beat Roger south Fold.

01:42:26
Speaker 2: He remembers the situation.

01:42:27
Speaker 1: I remember I beat Roger south Fold and he was like, let me get another rep. He said, back back on the line. Whatever, y'all know how the old lineman get beat so fat they want to get a new reps.

01:42:38
Speaker 2: They do, something happens a defensive lived up on that slot of scripture won't run back.

01:42:44
Speaker 1: Said let's get another rep. Like you know me, I'm at that point, I'm hype. I'm I'm still a young boy at that point. Year two whatever, I'm going in to Rogers Southold, No year one, what's it one or two?

01:42:54
Speaker 2: This is what this is gonna be, like twenty.

01:42:55
Speaker 1: I think it's year two, year two whatever, And I'm you know, I'm hype and said, I'm like right here, Rogers forever name. That's when I'm going against these guys. I'm like, I'm going to get some good ass guys. But when I'm not doing all that, you're trying.

01:43:09
Speaker 5: To you know what I'm saying, Roger.

01:43:12
Speaker 1: Roger. Yeah. But when I when I did, it was like I just beat his ass, like you know, and that was like, let's get another rep. And of course his background is up here. Are you scared this? And that you messed?

01:43:26
Speaker 2: I didn't have fun. Guys can gun.

01:43:31
Speaker 1: He wouldn't stop. And you know at that point, at the point, at that point, ship we've going at it. And maybe I told his ass, and I remember what I said. I said, what the fuck are you making all that money? You go again? I said, they overpaid your ass. That's what I told you. That's crazy. He's just being somebody. He's just trying to be.

01:44:00
Speaker 5: Taylor.

01:44:01
Speaker 1: He was talking ship that every day.

01:44:05
Speaker 5: Every day. I want him to, Yeah, you got this and you're overpaid.

01:44:10
Speaker 2: God, he said, you mentioned somebody. He's not seeing it right now.

01:44:16
Speaker 1: You remember you saying something about the first round ship And I remember after that when you said that, I don't know what you said. I can't remember exactly what you said. And that's when I went to the overpaid ship, and I think he was. Taylor was pissed about that, because one thing about Taylor after the situation, he gonna let you know, like, bro, that fuck with me a little bit, like you're gonna know, you're gonna know like it fucked with him a little bit because his demeanor like with something, Taylor, come on, is I'm lying, Well.

01:44:45
Speaker 2: It depends on what depends how you finish the sentence of demeansen depends how you finish the sentence of demeaning.

01:44:50
Speaker 1: Your body demeanor, like when certain ship, if someone rubbed you the wrong way, or I mean that's just that's like if someone says something maybe like oh this mother, especially a young book, I've said that to him. He probably like this young motherfucker just say this to me. Probably. But then we get the teams. I'm like, at this point, it's like him and Roger, I'm already at this one of them already like dynamic game. It's like you already got to know because for one, he gonna jump the fucking snap and it's like.

01:45:20
Speaker 2: I gotta come off and yeah, and I would finish a little harder. Yes, yeah, he.

01:45:24
Speaker 1: Only did it once. You know he got you good. Oh yeah, he.

01:45:29
Speaker 2: Pushed me away. I did that because it was you, Jack. It's like, if I can catch this dude on the hip, I'm gonna catch on the hip.

01:45:39
Speaker 1: But most time, like if I get off and like them come off on the guard and got my hand in roger chests or some ship and I'm knocking back, he may give you a bump and keep going get the line back. But if he catch you, he like trying to take you to the Forestilee line. I'm like, this motherfuckerasty boy.

01:45:58
Speaker 2: But let me you what first round thing did you hit him? I can't remember. I can't remember the first round thing because for me, it's like for me, it's offensive. Linemen are like more quiet and more like the Ben Jones. They're gonna keep you, I know. I'm saying for the most part they are like this, but then I see the defensive lineman at this time they have a lot of rest. We are going and going going with Keith, So in my head, I'm thinking, I got to bring juice. So we go to one on ones. I would talk shit. We go to practice and talk shit. I was always a well conditioned cat, and so I would always kind of like be talking crazy during practice. Drell wouldn't say whole lot. And then you come and you're doing it the same thing. So I'm like, oh, I'm having I have somebody to banter with now, not knowing that Jeff takes it personal. When you banter with Jet all right, it seems like you're taking that personal. Just I do not take it personal. I don't remember that that comment. But as far as the Devil teams go. It depends where I'm going. If it's a power I'm going to the backside linebacker, so I can dig into you a little bit. And if it's a duo, I'm going to the front side linebacker. So I do have to get off based on what they're doing. But if I can dig in that hip a little.

01:47:05
Speaker 1: Bit, Taylor, you never came no matter what fucking play, whatever you were to catch me, you never came off.

01:47:11
Speaker 2: No, that's not true. We can pop up film.

01:47:15
Speaker 1: Taylor, if it's a play that I guarante because how many how many y'all was the offense I was running. It was more of a stretch anyway.

01:47:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you start getting guys too lateral, then you hit him with the duo, and that's when they step lateral and get got there at step Definitely, not like that was a very painful situation. That's why I loved Roger because Roger would be able to hit you, and he does all three texts, and then I could just hit the hip and then Roger could handle business and I can go to the linebacker. But to go back to this hypothetical situation that you remember, we're at practice, and I think you can correct me if I'm wrong. After I'm don't telling the story. We have like a good relationship, you and I. The end, the end drops, you start to loop out and I kind of this. I hit you, but I catch you off your center of balance and you fall down.

01:48:05
Speaker 1: I got you. Just wait?

01:48:08
Speaker 2: Was it just like a It wasn't. I promise it wasn't a malicious I guess if I if I'm in a game, I'm throwing my entire body into it because I know you're not it was it?

01:48:17
Speaker 1: Was it appropriate for practice?

01:48:21
Speaker 2: I think I caught This is what I truly believe. I truly believe.

01:48:25
Speaker 1: I caught you off balance? Okay, and you and you flew. So let me ask you this. You know how RAVE used to say, as a defensive line, defensive front, use your hands at practicing and pick so when we was running them games, if I was to come and smoke my smoke you with a shower and say, oh I badly touch you, would you not be pissed that I'd.

01:48:45
Speaker 2: Be pissed at practice. And that's a great point you just made. I'd be pissed at practice. So I bink, I think, and I start finishing downfield. I hear some huffing and puffing behind me. This dude comes up, tries to swing on my ass.

01:49:00
Speaker 1: So why did you take off running?

01:49:01
Speaker 2: Because we have to finish the place you hold on, hold on well when ball comes out. You always heard Rabel and Keith and be like, you have to finish two stripes, gott to finish.

01:49:12
Speaker 1: It was you, you know, so when you oh, when I turned around, I knew there was something coming after that.

01:49:20
Speaker 2: So you come over with a mask grab We get in the football fight or whatever practice ends. I'm thinking to myself, we are done with practice. Things have happened, it's all good. Things need to be cleared up.

01:49:32
Speaker 5: We get in the locker.

01:49:33
Speaker 1: What did you do when you walk in the locker room? What I do when it set your sweaty ass in my locker?

01:49:41
Speaker 11: Yeah, because I know your personality, so you something like this.

01:49:51
Speaker 1: He goes, you want to do something.

01:49:54
Speaker 2: Called me a little end word.

01:49:56
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking a moment. You go to your damn locker. You in the fucking corner, You deep in the corner.

01:50:03
Speaker 2: Hey, our lockers are right here and here I could, but you're right.

01:50:08
Speaker 1: You had that damn thing's standing I mean, and then right there you maybe you in the corner though when you walk in the locker room, you take a left, you kept straight, set your sweaty. It's camp. You know, he's in the office of Limb and they sweat nasty like.

01:50:24
Speaker 2: Now, Jeff can't sweat.

01:50:28
Speaker 1: Like you and Nate David was the worst sweat like y'all sweat. Well, yeah, but you go and sit and you know, as when we get dressed, we put all clothes right there in all locker and he said it sweaty as my locker. So I'm like, he's still on bullshit. So what the fuck you.

01:50:44
Speaker 2: Want to dude something? Guys can't have fun, So Jeff try. Jeff tries to fight me. Will tries to fight me right there. I'm like, bro, we're not gonna fight with teammates.

01:50:50
Speaker 1: What we do.

01:50:50
Speaker 2: I'm trying to have a little fun with you. I walk over to my locker and you followed me, and I'm getting onst I'm literally taking my cleats off. Well this dude, let's go back. Let's back up.

01:51:01
Speaker 5: So the angle of sitting on his locker.

01:51:06
Speaker 2: Instigating for sure.

01:51:07
Speaker 5: Okay, so you guys have an exchange.

01:51:09
Speaker 1: You come over.

01:51:10
Speaker 5: He calls you little end, you.

01:51:11
Speaker 2: Know, little, Yeah, you try to do this little lesson, I'll beat your little last little end. You're thinking, there's a lot more ends being thrown around, and I have heard it.

01:51:19
Speaker 5: I can't.

01:51:21
Speaker 2: I'm a little Clearly, I'm a white boy from Kate freek Arizona. I'm a little I'm out of my element.

01:51:25
Speaker 1: Clearly.

01:51:25
Speaker 5: It's escalated to a level to where now you're just like, all right, let me just remove. I'm gonna go right.

01:51:29
Speaker 2: I need to back up because clearly I misread this situation, which is not out of the Roman possibilities with me at this time of my life. Even now, I'm thinking to myself, he's a competitor. I'm gonna mess with him when we get in the locker room. But at the end of the day, like I felt like at this moment we had a good relationship to be like, you know, I wouldn't try to get you, get.

01:51:47
Speaker 5: You, okay, going back and forth, you go to your locker then you following following, Yeah, blocked out.

01:51:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably because the part where because I mean ship, I think that that play you're talking about. Of course, maybe at the end of practice to where you hit me whatever, and maybe the temper stilled up. But I'm not finna come in the locker room to let's go fight in the locker room, but to go sitting my damn locker Now my fucking pants may be wet that I wore in to practice that day. Like, yeah, I'm pissed off at that point, Like.

01:52:22
Speaker 2: But anyway, that's what That's what essentially took place to where, like we're talking, a week goes by where I try to lend the olive branch a few times. Hey, man, are we trying to have it be like this forever?

01:52:35
Speaker 1: Man?

01:52:35
Speaker 2: Fuck you little less. I'm thinking to myself, I gotta worry about being a practice this dude, I'm gonna get blunt.

01:52:46
Speaker 5: Way.

01:52:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thinking. I'm like, I'm trying to have fun at practice as much as you can have fun in camp. I get a bank. It literally wasn't like a malicious bank. It was just I caught this man in a second graft. Everyone gets gone and to the point where Jeff On follows me. Jeff follows me on social media. We go back a year later, shoot him a DM, Hey, I'm ready to make up when you aren't.

01:53:09
Speaker 1: No response, I don't remember the gold chain.

01:53:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what happened with the gold chain? Are we good now though?

01:53:19
Speaker 1: My first couple of years, you know we're good.

01:53:26
Speaker 5: Tell here's what we need.

01:53:28
Speaker 2: But but when I was in Vegas, have a hug.

01:53:31
Speaker 1: When I was in Vegas, I feel like that was like a fuck you moment though, because maybe maybe maybe they yeah, like last weekend, maybe maybe they did. Maybe they did tell Will I mean, they did tell Taylor I was over there, and he probably said don't don't don't don't, like I.

01:53:49
Speaker 9: Can promise you that there's no way I was there.

01:53:52
Speaker 5: Jared has no clue who you are?

01:53:54
Speaker 2: Nothing to Jared doesn't doesn't.

01:53:57
Speaker 1: But NA go back to the gold chain as though.

01:54:00
Speaker 5: You know he was before we get to that. Here's all I think we need.

01:54:03
Speaker 2: I'm ready to.

01:54:04
Speaker 5: We just need both of you guys to say sorry to one another. Because even when even even when you're searching, like when you're like, hey, are we good, it's not hey, that's my bad. You didn't say hey, that's my There was never a that's my bad. I feel like all this needs is for y'all to be you were, like, you know, Timpers probably still flirted up from practice. I wouldn't expect him to go in. It's not like all right, I was still a little fired up from practice. I wasn't sitting there. Hey, no, let me say one thing.

01:54:32
Speaker 1: He's right all we need first before you say that, Before you say that, I was done with this show. I didn't come off to practice field, like where the Taylor at? Did he not? He went to the lot, So I came on the fence.

01:54:47
Speaker 2: Made so much progress we've made, We've made practice, but let's just see if we can fix this and then go back. Because this man was saying something to me as I was going into the practice field. We're like Jordan Ruse and a couple of guys are like, yo, is he good?

01:55:01
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, they no. I don't but them all because I want to say I hate him. They always his sidekick. They kissed Taylor ass everybody. I can't everything Taylor did, like to the way Taylor would fucking dress. And they went and got vans. They went and got everybody wearing vans. Now, like, I'm like, man, get off here.

01:55:31
Speaker 2: Bro Like we had a good off of the line, good leadership.

01:55:34
Speaker 1: In that room.

01:55:36
Speaker 2: But Gody like whatever, hey can I tell you something, Can I tell you something?

01:55:41
Speaker 12: What?

01:55:42
Speaker 1: Bro?

01:55:42
Speaker 2: I'm sorry? I shouldn't have hit you that hard. It wasn't intentional, and I shouldn't have gone to your locker.

01:55:47
Speaker 1: So what you want me apodaze saying an N word? What do you think?

01:55:51
Speaker 5: You know?

01:55:53
Speaker 2: This is on your Let's let's take a let's take a moment to realize, maybe, just maybe I shouldn't have voltailored to his locker, tried to fight him, held a grudge for a year and a half.

01:56:04
Speaker 1: Your locker home. Remember, But if you say that I apologize.

01:56:08
Speaker 5: No, no, that's not a real apology.

01:56:12
Speaker 1: I can apologize for the situation that happened in the locker room.

01:56:16
Speaker 5: Is that good enough for you? And I apologize for kind of creating a grudge. You can even say kind.

01:56:25
Speaker 2: Of the gudge, like, hey, you had a grudge. You know it's all good.

01:56:31
Speaker 1: Okay, I apologize for creating a grudge. You want to know?

01:56:39
Speaker 5: It's funny too, as I'm as we're having fun with all this.

01:56:42
Speaker 2: No, it's so funny the way Jeffson's like, hey, I apologize.

01:56:45
Speaker 1: But.

01:56:47
Speaker 5: I'm thinking we're talking earlier about like player culture leadership, and you lose to like we all grown man like we shouldn't be sensitive. You could just tell the sensitivity throughout the locker room, everybody included. You could just tell how it's a little it gets a little sensitive around everybody. Everybody should be able to handle, especially like where you're at in your career right now. I completely understand the whole, Like I'm not betting the need to nothing, because there is a level of like you want to be the top dog, you want to be the alpha dog. You want to like always like hold the standard for yourself you always have, And I'm just telling you, and I hope it's not for ten years from now when you're out you realize, like, wow, there's a lot of shit that I handled that I was like I shouldn't have been that mat or I shouldn't have handled it.

01:57:33
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have gone and sat in that guy's locker after to try to instigate or fuck around to.

01:57:37
Speaker 1: Have moments though, like yeah, throughout Like that's the reason why this year like was a big year for me, Like I did a lot, Like this past off season was probably the most I actually did a lot of self reflecting to where my last couple of years from the reason why I changed my diety to the way I live, the way I was a leader in the locker room, to some of my actions and not just with the game of football, but in life to where damn, like you just said, maybe I should have never got that pissed off. Maybe I should have handled the Cam War situation in training camp when I after practice, and especially the way it blew up, like I didn't want that to like the way it blew up. I'm like, why the shit blowing up? Because after practice. What didn't get to the media is how Cam came straight to my locker when we walked up the football field when the locker what Taylor did, That's what Cam did. He sat right beside, not in my locker, but he sat right beside the empty locker that was open. Came over there, eating up down, freeze pop talking to me like that's what you know. But it's like in the heat of the moment when you got media practice and you got guys setting up these tents getting ready to do interviews, like, damn, how can I handle that? How could I? How could I handle that? Different too? You know, throughout the years to in my career on game game days to go back to the damn situations. I think we're playing the Bills Bobby Hart. You remember when he punted Vrabel. You know that all happened in the middle of the game to where he pissed off of me. Now after the game, you know at that point, I'm still I'm I'm not an old I'm not old as old as old I am. Now to where damn right, let's you want to fight. Let's we can fight in the ton of We're walking, We're gonna rot in the tunn of together. You know in Buffalo, the ton of right there together. The locker room's right there together. So I'm like, let's fight old. To me now, it's like, bro, not like what happened on the in the between them line. You want to fight, go ahead, But like that's the type of things to where, like I said, I did a lot of reflecting this past offseason. How cannot you know, not just be a better football player, but a better person on the football field.

01:59:53
Speaker 2: There is there a piece of you with like growing up going to Mississippi State, however your story is and however went where you've had this like chip on your shoulder of like whatever your motivating factor is like I had to be an asshole in the field and letting things bleed over to the other side off the field that you feel like, Man, if I lose this piece of me, then I might lose that piece of me on the field, because I know that was the thing for me, especially in college. In my first couple of years in the league. I'd be like, why partied a bunch? If I don't have this like whatever mentality, like gritty type of mentality off the field on the field, I'm not going to have the same thing.

02:00:33
Speaker 1: Nah, I would say for me personally, I don't. I never had that, Like I never had like, oh, let me be an asshole in the field. But if I lose that, maybe something that's a I guess I lose something that's off the field. I think for me, the game of football is the reason why I made it to where I'm at right now. Like I've been playing football since I was five. I started playing football early. I got a older brother, of course, two years older than me. I was going to football practice him and I decided I wanted to play football because of him. I'm watching him and I started early. Remember traveling to Atlanta to play travel ball, and we went out there and I'm I'm the youngest kid out there, and I'm playing out there with him. And we used to be in the backyard, put on all shoulder path and help hitting the damn patry that we had in our backyard. Too. Now it's like the game of football was my escapegoat from everything. So I would say growing up as a child not having a father, I think when I got older, I realized how much that did affect me. I would say that's the reason why I played. I think I played with so much anger, because I mean, in high school, you play, you having fun. In college, you still having fun, but you're not realizing, like damn, why the hell I'm playing so angry? You know, but I'm still having fun doing it. And it's still to this day. It's just like when you when you could get to a point where like, damn, football is the reason why football really save you, kind of one of them deals. And I mean it's just like, you know, not to even kind of go in details to the situation I had in high school to you know, if I was just an average person, you know, not not having a scholarship to go play football, and miss some state. You know, where would I be right now in that situation to where that just happened national media? What I would have got a second opportunity in life without the game of football. And that's the reason why, like even to this day, like maybe that kind of helped me mold me to the player I am on the football field, because it's just like, you know, I'm grateful to play this game. I'm grateful to go out there each and every day, each and every Sunday, to go out there and have people cheering for me. And that's the reason why I like when I go out there, I'm trying to go one hundred map out every single time I'm on the football field. And it's just like that's my why because I didn't have that second opportunity in life to continue to doing what I've been doing since I was five years old. So I wouldn't say it's something that if I lose. I don't think I not something that if I lose that edge that I have on a football field, which I don't think I lose until maybe can't do it no more. But I think if I ever lose the game of football because of maybe I retire, maybe injury, whatever may be. I don't think that'll change the person who I am off the football field.

02:03:37
Speaker 5: Appreciate you sharing that all that about your dad and everything.

02:03:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, the dad things. Does it change your perspective on being a father now?

02:03:48
Speaker 1: Most definitely? You know when for me, you know, I don't try to like because I never want to sit, you know, and bash my dad. I never had a my dad. I'm twenty eight years old. Never to this day do I have thoughts of like, bro, I just want to go sit down with my dad and figure out why and what happened throughout from when I was born up until this day, Like I want to like sometimes do I have them thoughts like hell? Yeah, But it's to a point now where I'm a grown man. But I also I have guys like my uncle one probably I call him dad at time, like he acts like a dad at the time. I mean, you've been around my uncle life, no matter who it is. He probably he treats grown mens like I'm gonna sit down here and talk to you. But when I when you have guys like him, my high school coach, who's one guy that I really used to call my dad and still you know, great communication with him, my high school coach. I rown shorter, Like when you have guys like that around you, it kind of I wouldn't say. I would say put a band aid on it, because it's not fixing a problem. And so throughout my like my life, it's like I want to sit down and talk to my dad. I remember talking to my uncle about it, like you because I'm talking like you know, he recommended, like I think you just should try to do it, and I'm.

02:05:14
Speaker 5: Like, like reach out to him and just let's meet up.

02:05:17
Speaker 1: Un let's have a conversation. But one thing that's and I really don't tell people this, but one thing that scarred me was I remember being back in Louisiana where I was born, was born in Jeania, Louisiana. I just remember remember being in Louisiana and me like kids walked, I mean my family right there. That's like your dad about to pull up, your dad coming, and I'm sitting on the step and then I think this ship scarred me. Bro Like he walked straight past me and ain't say shit, no shit, And it was like you know, as a kid, like you're not thinking like, oh he gonna know he just maybe in a rush, he gonna come back whatever, and like I mean nothing, So throughout my life, like throughout my growing up and to this point of my life, it's like that was an opportunity, yeah, but nothing. So it's like me at this point of my life now, it's just like how can I be the best dad? How can I you know, yes, sometimes when you the parents of your child, you know, pissing you off, like, but it's not about them. It's about how can I be the best dad for my child? Because like, yeah, as a parent, like especially playing the game of football, we know how much time is valuable, and you know that's the thing that we wish we could get back, especially you know with me with my dad. But you know I would say my mom, they'll have a job. And that's the reason why I give all. Like when I signed the contract, like I want damn, I'm not damn there I was in tears up there talking about my mom because I mean, my mom raised five kids. Is you know my mom raised five kids and I'm guarantee you that every one of them you walk up to and when you when we meet other people, when you talk about you talk about who we really are as as as a people. I'm sure like everybody that meet us, and they go back and tell my mom, like, your kids are respectful, Like it's gonna be yes, ma'am, yes, Like it's gonna be all of that. And that's the way we was raised. And that's why I always get a praise to my mom because she did a hell of a job, like you know, from job to job to me seeing my mom sitting on the side of the bed crying trying to figure out what's the how to make all Christmas good because she just got laid off too, you know, not wanting for nothing as a kid. And that's the reason why, you know, no matter what it may be. You know, sometimes we all know parents should get a little, get get a little what's the word for, like leave me the hell alone sometime, like you know, but we all know they could get annoying that I should say at time. But you know, I'm grateful for my mom, and you know, she did a hell of a job of raising us because at an early age, me and my brother had to learn how to be the man of the house.

02:08:13
Speaker 5: Early, so I can only imagine how hard that was balancing jobs, raising five kids, like you're a father now, like you imagine having five kiddos that you're fully by yourself just ripping around, yeah, and feeling like you know, holidays or what your your kids are learning at school, the excitement around a holiday and you and your mind having to sit with like, man, I need to figure something out to provide like a Christmas experience like you let it do? You let them down at times and you just wear that I can only imagine and.

02:08:39
Speaker 2: Not telling them what's really going on. Just feel like I have to think it as good as possible. You need to worry about these issues.

02:08:43
Speaker 1: That's why I say with us as like me and my siblings see like we saw my mom break down to where she just got laid off. But every birthday we had a party maybe like hot dogs, and that's when we were sticking the damn head in the bucket of apples and water that we used to actually like she used to make things fun for us as kids and Christmas, like we always had a good Christmas. And that's why I said, like to this day, like you know, my mom is like she's like I said, he ain't get annoying. That just family for you and you know I would I would never like not do for my mom. Yeah.

02:09:27
Speaker 5: Yeah, you feel like the conversation you have with your uncle about talking to your dad and then it doesn't get to that step. Do you feel like it's it's you being angry about the situation. You feel like hey reach out and heat the whole you know, walking past you on the step.

02:09:41
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't say angry because I'm past that stage. I mean because I feel like the anger would would cause utther like hatred, because I don't hate my dad because of the situation. It's more of for me, it's like why now, Like why would I do it now? But and I was thinking about this a couple of weeks ago, and I was talking to my girl about it. It's just like, what if I don't get the opportunity, something happened to him, something happened to me. She's never know what if? What if I don't get the opportunity before something tragedy happen? And I think That's what I've been thinking more on. You know, My goal is to continue to try to because I mean that one thing I'm big on and one thing I'm I want to get more into his therapy. It's like, how can I figure out ways to get around all of these I wouldn't say like hatred or you know, anger, because it's not really that, but how can I get around them feelings to put aside to have that conversation because I still I talked to my siblings on his on his side, like you know, one of my sisters, she she's always checking in. You know, my brother the other day, you know, he probably made his fifth Snapchat, but he just added me on Snapchat and we just changed numbers just the other day. So it's like, I don't want the relationship, not like me and my immediate sibling here in Tennessee. But I still have a lot of communication with them, and so it's just him like, yeah, when can I put them feelings aside? And how can I put them feelings aside? Because I mean it's not easy because like I said, it's to a point where right now it's like why now.

02:11:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, So has he ever? He's never reached out.

02:11:34
Speaker 1: I mean I think he didn't try through maybe my mom or because I think my sister, my oldest sister, which she's thirty four, thirty five, she had more relationship with him because her my mom, my mom and my dad was together when she was coming up, and she's of course older than me. But I think they used to like talk here there, especially when I was in college. I think he tried to get in contact with me, but it was just like at that point it was still kind.

02:12:07
Speaker 2: Of probably felt some way like I was doing well.

02:12:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's kind of what my mindset was. Not not like I didn't talk to therapists. I didn't. I didn't talk to therapists. I didn't. You know. That's one thing that I would say as a man, it's like it was hard because for me, it was like all the stuff that I've been through in life. It's like I feel like I got through it, but not really got through it. And so it's like when you start actually talking to people, like my therapy at the time was my uncle. Like I'm going to him, I'm he's sitting on the phone. I'm crying in my own Yeah he's not a therapy, but I'm saying somebody that's someone I trusted. I trust my uncle to take this stuff too, but not everything I didn't. I don't. I don't like my uncle tell you like it's be certain stuff day and he for some reason, I don't know what is about him, but like he would call me, he was just like, I saw you out there on Sunday, like I'm watching the game. You didn't look yourself. What's going on? And it'd be something actually on my mind before the game to where I'm not thinking that's out there affecting me. But he was like, you didn't seem like yourself today, like not this year, but like in the past, he hadn't done that to where I'm like, damn, like how did you read that about me? But like I said, just I think my goal, especially this year. You know, I don't do it all that New Year resolution now. I mean, I don't do all that, but I think the biggest thing is for me this year is do more therapy to be able to maybe, like I said, maybe I could go to more therapy and actually talk about that situation to eventually have a sit down with him.

02:13:50
Speaker 5: So, yeah, I'm a fan of therapy. I would. I would for sure. It seems like you're kind of curious about it enough to where it won't be and you already it's like just a listening you talk about where it's like, you know, I can get past it or I sent my feelings aside. Where it's therapy you, it's like you they put you back in those spots and you it's almost like helping equip you with tools to go through all the emotions and feelings that you're actually feeling to kind of like get through, get to the other side, and then hopefully it's like it ends up with a no pressure burger sitting down with your old man.

02:14:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you'll see, you see.

02:14:26
Speaker 2: And also just having kids like you, the tools that you learn now that you that affected you as a child, when your kids go through things, you'll be better equipped to help them through those processes. I had a situation with my mom where Ian spoke to her in a long time and I.

02:14:41
Speaker 1: Thought, you actually shared that with me about your mom. Yeah, yeah, because I remember I'm going to cut you off, but I remember I was looking for some outdoors furniture and I went to the is it Patty or something like?

02:14:56
Speaker 2: Was it in twelve South?

02:14:57
Speaker 1: No, it was right going to tighten motoring.

02:15:00
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, patio yeah, patio furniture.

02:15:02
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I remember I was like, I met your mom and you kind of went into starting like I don't really you know, talk, Yeah.

02:15:10
Speaker 2: So we had that. That's kind of how the situation was for the last like seven years or something like that. And Will was big on like, hey, you should talk to her. Will has a lot of reasons why, but I wasn't going to and I was like so resistant to the idea of it. And then I thought to myself, well, what if my kids ever feel the way I feel about my mom. If I don't do if I don't have tools, if I don't go fix it, now, how am I going to be able to give them the steps to maybe like, hey, this is how I fixed my relationship with my parents when I had a problem. And I remember the first time meeting her, dude, like the first thirty not meeting her, but like seeing her for the first time a long time. I was like I just like cried for thirty minutes, just like I hate you. Yeah, and then within like an hour after that, it was way better. And she's now met my kids and she's been around a little bit still parents in the sense that like, all right, Mom, I need I need fifteen minutes, like you need to relax a little bit. But it is it's like it's refreshing to feel the weight you didn't realize that was on your own shoulders and you're like, oh, ship, like I really was, whether I was like getting getting through it without getting through it, Like it's like takes away Allevi. It's a pressure from you that you're like, man, it feels a whole lot better. So just to piggyback off that, it's like it's nice too.

02:16:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be really a big party for minutes off season.

02:16:23
Speaker 5: Yeah.

02:16:23
Speaker 1: I like that therapy and figuring that out.

02:16:27
Speaker 5: So having a convo with your dad, yeah, or if you want to call them.

02:16:30
Speaker 1: By by name, I am a I am a junior. So are you really there?

02:16:35
Speaker 2: You go?

02:16:36
Speaker 5: What else do we have that? Hey, dude, I appreciate you sharing that seriously.

02:16:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen to this podcast has had a lot of EPs and flows.

02:16:43
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's honestly phenomenal.

02:16:46
Speaker 2: It has because a lot of football talk. You're like, all right, we don't get to meet potatoes that we made friends again, look at us to catch a lunch date later, grab coffee, talk about therapy sessions and then all that.

02:16:55
Speaker 5: And talking about Loki or like our deepest fears, like our deeper deepest, like insecurity, right, thinking this is like a goal of mine.

02:17:03
Speaker 1: You said, go a gold a.

02:17:05
Speaker 2: Goal goal goal Like you're like, hey, I got it. But you brought up gold. What was the gold chain thing?

02:17:11
Speaker 1: You wearing one? Now, no, you took it off.

02:17:14
Speaker 2: On this Was this your rookie year?

02:17:19
Speaker 1: I think I was. It's year one of your two. I can't remember exactly, but.

02:17:22
Speaker 5: Here's what I can.

02:17:23
Speaker 1: You know, you know he he because it was two guys that wore gold necklaces. It was him. I don't know what brand, like what kind of gold he's wearing. Delaney Delaney used to wear David Yearman. I'm sure he's still wearing them.

02:17:38
Speaker 2: That's what I got him to. Delaney used to wear that choke it. I used to see he used to cut the V. I used to think, my god, that goes so fucking.

02:17:44
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And it's coming back to likes and you know Delaney used to wear that. That's the reason why.

02:17:49
Speaker 2: So you approached this. So you approached me like Taylor, I will look up to you.

02:17:52
Speaker 5: Did you know Taylor anywhere else? Did you know did you see Taylor give necklaces to.

02:17:59
Speaker 1: I think he I think he didn't for sure promise of a guy go necklace.

02:18:03
Speaker 2: Damn, I'm promises. Probably I could.

02:18:06
Speaker 5: Here's what I could see. I can for sure see that time where you ordered a few? Did you give Derek one? No?

02:18:14
Speaker 2: Is that when I give you one?

02:18:15
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it's when you gave me one. I don't know if you got dB one, Like if dB was just in the market for another one and you hooked him up, And then I could just see Jeff like just being part of whatever circle was happening, and you just all fantastic.

02:18:27
Speaker 1: One of your dad. I was ready to beat your ass, as you say, but I know I wouldn't. Never, I wouldn't.

02:18:32
Speaker 2: I like to think of us as hard friends, hard stop, and now we're back to being friends. Yeah, but there was a hard stop there for a minute where I was like, yo, by cross halls with Jeff in like the middle of the night, he might yeah, he might swing on me. Fuck that ship and think his ass to let him give me two.

02:18:49
Speaker 5: I could see a situation like that happening. Yes, it's kind of fleeting, and you're like, if you get that, I know.

02:18:56
Speaker 1: I can't talk much about it. That's gonna get to my point, but I can't ain't talk much about it. And you know with the I don't have no Jerry right now. Taylor would be a nice gift for you from.

02:19:06
Speaker 2: It chain, but you need let me get you gold chain.

02:19:12
Speaker 1: At this point we'll talk when off the park, I mean when when the camera, I mean this ship. But at this point, I mean, I don't have no Jerry right now. Man, I'm a I'm a couple of things short.

02:19:24
Speaker 2: So I didn't have to do with Pro Bowls. What this thing, the gold chain thing?

02:19:29
Speaker 1: No, but what I what I am going to say is the Buckner. I mean, you're not in the locker room. But I don't think no guy in the locker room gonna walk up and say I'm gonna buy you assist thousand dollar AP for making All Pro, first team All Pro. That's what he did. You see that?

02:19:45
Speaker 5: No, I didn't see.

02:19:46
Speaker 1: So it's I think it's the I want to say, the rookie tight end. I think he made All Pro this year, and I guess the far Buckinger gifted him an AP for making All Pro. A p for All Pro.

02:20:00
Speaker 2: Buddy. It sounds like you have a huge opportunity for leadership in your locker room right now. Well three years.

02:20:06
Speaker 1: I mean, you say you made bro and I need to know. I'm not saying you need to I should, but I mean I'm seeing fucking videos you got throwing fucking twenty k on the what the game Boka ride?

02:20:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, you consume our content.

02:20:24
Speaker 1: I see it, like yeah, and I saw you in Vagas going to the high rollers room when you ignored me. I said, Taylor, hold on, I got you. I see it. But I'm just what But I'm not saying you have to?

02:20:37
Speaker 2: Did you want to do the Tunnel of Chaos?

02:20:39
Speaker 1: What's that?

02:20:40
Speaker 2: That's the gambling we do a Dana.

02:20:42
Speaker 1: Hell no from with his money. I ain't. I ain't going in there and take out how much money? How much money? An estimate to where y'all walk into the room.

02:20:52
Speaker 2: It's not we have credit line, the credit line five hundred thousand.

02:20:56
Speaker 1: I this, that's not what I'm doing. Just like I didn't. I didn't lost some money in Vegas. Yeah, like a couple of weekends ago. I'm liked, damn, all right, that's enough. I'm not going to getting no more money, like god damn. But five hundred okay.

02:21:14
Speaker 2: That's all. It's looked at is an you max bet, you win two and you get out. That's the goal every time.

02:21:21
Speaker 1: And then do you get out?

02:21:22
Speaker 2: Well, I used to my last couple of times, I've got I've gotten read.

02:21:28
Speaker 1: The videos and I'm like, god, like maybe i just need to get in the room.

02:21:32
Speaker 2: And I'm saying.

02:21:34
Speaker 1: But if I fucking around and lose t K on one bet.

02:21:39
Speaker 2: Buddy, you want you want to know?

02:21:41
Speaker 5: That's my chaos here?

02:21:44
Speaker 2: You were down? How much? On one night? Three hundred thousand was down?

02:21:50
Speaker 1: Y'll have it. But he came back my financial to be calling me like, you're losing your mind right now?

02:21:58
Speaker 5: It was we made it out, but.

02:22:03
Speaker 1: I would love to watch it. I'm not it's you.

02:22:05
Speaker 2: If you ever partook and it went well that few minutes of being in the tunnel of chaos. It's the most intense situation being I guarantee you.

02:22:16
Speaker 1: I watched the videos. What I'm saying is what if it don't go the way?

02:22:22
Speaker 5: I know?

02:22:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's a battle idea of every day.

02:22:26
Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's like to win that much like I see that dealer flip over seven in the two like now I'll just shit it on myself, like that yeah, and you just got it and she flip over.

02:22:42
Speaker 2: Buddy, I know it's happened, and it's like, how the fuck do you have? The one hand better than mine? Right, the one card better than me?

02:22:49
Speaker 1: You just bet one hundred k on that hand was better?

02:22:52
Speaker 2: Okay? Well max thirty, My max red Rock is forty five, and my max at Caesar's is fifty. Dana is that Red Rock is one hundred? His max at Caesar's Palace is four hundred thousand a hand? What four hundred us?

02:23:11
Speaker 5: Bro?

02:23:12
Speaker 2: I saw we saw him win two point eight million million.

02:23:18
Speaker 1: I'm sweating, bro, like I would.

02:23:21
Speaker 2: Don't go. We're short on time, says Sherman via the computer. So do you want hit the bud light question?

02:23:26
Speaker 5: Yes, a big Jeff. We know you know how everybody would do anything for an ice cool bud light. What is something that Jeff Simmons would do anything for?

02:23:36
Speaker 1: I can't say family, anything I would do so for. I mean the nature you said so not dealing with football?

02:23:47
Speaker 5: Right, could go football?

02:23:49
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna say I'm I cut my dick off like right with dead, but I think huh, I know I saw y'all posted that too, so yes, I do see what y'all be. I would say winning the super Bowl, I think I do pretty much. I wouldn't say I can't.

02:24:11
Speaker 5: Say anything but kind of anything.

02:24:16
Speaker 1: No, I'm not. I know you think it's some gays ship right now, but to win the super Bowl, like that's something playing this game is like, that's something we all dream of. Like this the reason why you play this game, especially on this level, because the money, I mean the money taking care of yourself. To win the super Bowl, though.

02:24:40
Speaker 5: You give one of your homies, like a peck on the lifts, that's a that's an easy yes, I mean, just.

02:24:49
Speaker 2: To win a super Bowl.

02:24:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, your boy, my brother, I love you.

02:24:54
Speaker 2: Do you just kind of that's an extra something else, Like you know, nobody kissing the lips?

02:25:04
Speaker 1: No, no, I ain't doing all that. At one time. I'm like, but if that mom will give me a piece of paper and it said, yeah, I mean what you just say kiss on the lips. Now you're saying kiss is different. You gotta really but you're going like you gotta smooth, like you go you can do it to the side.

02:25:22
Speaker 5: Are you going to be you think you'll go eyes open or eyes closed? When you do it.

02:25:30
Speaker 2: Open, it's like like you're into it. That is an awesome follow up question.

02:25:38
Speaker 5: Bro.

02:25:39
Speaker 2: She win a super Hostal Lombardi Trophy in Nashville, Tennessee, the first one ever live in Infany. Probably have a statue outside your building. You can kiss your boy.

02:25:47
Speaker 1: Super Bowl my brother, Yeah, I tell you it was me, So I know I'm not gonna lie doup no, bro, because I know what he had it like I ain't. I know I got my ship did, but to know what he had in his ship before he got we've been there what he had. But like then you you just yack, keep putting that ship in your lip.

02:26:21
Speaker 2: Man, Like Jennie pops out of a bottle. You're in the locker room right before the Super Bowl who and he says, hey, you're gonna lose this game unless you kiss this man. A sudden will Compton pops up. But if you kiss this man, you will win the super Bowl?

02:26:36
Speaker 1: Damn blindfold me? Will you? I can't It wasn't ship like fear fact.

02:26:47
Speaker 2: At that point, Johnny Knox will box up out like you say something right before to because you're getting happy before we let you go. How much would it hurt to watch win the Super Bowl? Are you rooting for the Patriots? Guy?

02:27:21
Speaker 1: I text Very that we know. Listen what I told him. I said, don't don't get comfortable go finit this ship. I don't. I mean, I mean, rab had been in this my rookie year, Like we've been to the FC Championship and he had to. Yeah, he have the team to do it. Like I think d May playing some good football. Young buck up there struggling a little bit. Maybe you could call him you haven't two weekends. I'm like, who I feel because he seemed like we even talked out of the game, like he seemed like a good dude. And of course being a rookie, spotlight on you fourth yes, like damn. But I would say, like I'll be happy as hell to see Raby winning Super Bowl with the Tennessee Titans fan base maybe be happy to see it.

02:28:16
Speaker 2: I think he probably would be even just be tough like Dan.

02:28:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what That's what I'm saying. They will be pissed like the what IF's.

02:28:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, there would be directed toward.

02:28:26
Speaker 1: The uppers, but the upper room out of my control, and I'd be I'm gonna be. I'm I'm happy as hell me first year back into coaching, well head coaching role, to take off what they what's the record last year? It was four and twelve and to be going to getting ready to play in the FC Championship quarterback and now with Buffalo, I mean, with Chicago losing yesterday, I think you should get coach of the year.

02:28:54
Speaker 2: Oh you think you're uh? I mean the Tim Johnson, Ben Johnson, he was like fourth and the once fifth.

02:29:00
Speaker 1: Mean, but if you got him and then you got the guy from Jacksonville, like, yes, jack.

02:29:08
Speaker 5: Four and thirteen last year, but the Patriots have been four and thirteen the last two years.

02:29:12
Speaker 1: When you look at Kyle Shanahan, they also just lost. But to take a young second year quarterback to take a team you just got in to the FC Championship potentially, I don't see Denver beating them.

02:29:27
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, it'll be a fucking watch Knicks out now.

02:29:30
Speaker 1: That's what that sucks. Which also, I go back to that game. I feel like the Broncos, that's it's not just both both Knicks. I feel like that's a system offense. So Jared Demon could come in and.

02:29:41
Speaker 5: Just oh like I'm sure he'll have he will be Uh, what's the word I'm looking for?

02:29:48
Speaker 2: Competitive?

02:29:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying he slinging the rock alund he was, But I just feel like because of that type of offense, you could put statement in and have some success.

02:30:03
Speaker 5: But defense defense, it.

02:30:06
Speaker 1: Said defense that the front nasty. And that's why I say, if they keep block death front and really gonna be the run game, you gotta be able to run run the ball bally as you know, you gotta run the ball. But to answer your question, I'd be excited. I'm not going there's no hate toys. Yeah, toys very so I'd be happy to he to see him win.

02:30:26
Speaker 2: Oh, Luke's here, perfect. Hey, we got a wrap, Jeff. Thank you so much, Jeff.

02:30:32
Speaker 5: Phenomenal episode. Phenomenal episode. Appreciate you man.

02:30:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, please put in the comments Jeff and Taylor are now best friends and subscribe.

02:30:42
Speaker 5: Hey that she was?

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