Dodgers advance, Reliever Roki, Red Sox-Yankees G3 preview

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Speaker 1: Not one, not two, three game threes, three game threes more than yeah combined. We didn't have three games threes combined in the last few years. This is really cool, you know what. I also thought of the Toronto Blue Jays not having to deal with this Yankees Red Sox series and of course being all loaded up for their division series. This is why winning the division is so important. I like that. I like when the importance of the regular season remains great huge. Look at the difference between what Toronto's experiencing right now and what the Yankees are experiencing. Now. That doesn't mean that the Yankees want Red Sox or the Red Sox right but I'm saying because those two came down to the wire, Yankees still might win a series, then beat the Blue Jakes, whatever, But anybody that says they would take the Yankees path over the blue Jays path needs to get a head examination.

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Speaker 2: Plus win the division.

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Speaker 1: It's big, yes, very cool, so I'm excited about it. We are going to do a postgame show for the Guardians and the Tigers after that game goes down at three o'clock Eastern time. That game's been going on during our show. And finally, we got it out of there. We were competing with them, so we'll be able to give more love to the Tigers and Guardians. We did Cubs Padres the last couple of days. This time Tiger's Guardians Game three live on the ft YouTube channel. That game's at three pm Eastern time, so say five thirty six o'clock ish, you can check us out. We'll talk about that one. We're going to talk about the rest of the game threes tomorrow. We've got an off day of MLB games tomorrow, so we'll cover everything. But also you still are covered later on Yankees and Red Sox. You've got Monster Territory, you've got Pinstripe Territory. And last night, at about one in the morning, you guys weren't awake, the Dodgers territory featured Clint Pissius and a substitution for someone who was out with a little illness. You know, I got the late was over Rokie Sazagi. Baby. Well, we'll get to it. We'll get to it. But it was fun. I was having a good time on that postgame show. So anyway, let's charge the mound, presented by LYDDS.

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Speaker 2: Let's charging about.

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Speaker 1: We love lidds. Look at the code while we chat about lidds, but really, let's start with the Los Angeles Dodgers advancing to the NLDS to take on the Philadelphia Phillies. Reporting live right now from Parts Unknown on the Phillies is aerkrats. What do you think of this matchup? This heavyweight tilt that we're about to see?

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Speaker 3: What do I think of it? Two days ago I was like, oh, yeah, the Phillies. You know, Dodgers are hot ending the season. The Phillies got this for sure. And then the Dodgers played two games. People will say ats against the reds. Ah, they didn't really, you know, it wasn't even that much of a challenge. Tell me where the Dodgers falls are besides the bullpen. Dave Roberts did exactly what we didn't know if he was going to do or not, and go with his starting rotation deeper. Yamamoto won one hundred and a million pitches. Blake Snow went farther than he ever has. This team couldn't be hitting on more cylinders. And then I just heard Will Smith most likely going to be available for every single game in that series, adding to a lineup that scored eighteen runs I think in two games. So Phillies are going to have their hands full right now. It might even tilt towards the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: I think these are the two best teams in baseball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is going to be unbelievable series. I think that this is going to be the series that might produce the World Series winner because of the depth of the pitching staffs, the depths of the lineup, the fans, the home fields, the star power. It's a shame this isn't in the DS or see us. Excuse me, I agree, but it's in the DS. Whose fault is that, la, No, it's Milwaukee's fault. No, it's the Dodger's fault, Milwaukee's. They were supposed to win one hundred and eighty nine games this year and they did not. They didn't even get a buye. So this is what happens. I mean, this is Milwaukee rivers for being good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I think most people expected the Dodgers to win more than they did.

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Speaker 2: Well, of course they did, but they didn't expect their bullpend of just completely fall apart and then just take weeks off at a time.

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Speaker 1: Are we good with THEO.

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Speaker 2: Looked great last night.

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Speaker 1: He was fantastic. I mean got screwed the first inning dropping the.

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Speaker 2: Fly ball and Sal Stewart hit ninety seven hopper through the right side. Yeah, he nine punchies. He looked good, really good, good good Velossy ninety seven, ninety seven, ninety eight dropping in curveballs.

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Speaker 1: That's a tough picture. That is a tough picture to face.

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Speaker 2: It is in hockey, obviously at the back end, coming and throwing one hundred.

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Speaker 1: How cool is that he's got a hondo. The splitter is insane and this is actually kind of perfect for him. Right, He's had injury issues, he's had trouble keeping v loan games. We don't know if he can be a thirty two game starter. He's also like twenty three years old. Go for it, hold alm tech, what do you take? I mean, call this reminder. This is uh, this is for a guest who's who's coming on the show.

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Speaker 3: And you gotta you gotta take, you gotta take big good, big leaguers calls.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, you won't ask me to call you to reminder, So you got ten.

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Speaker 1: Minutes crats, All right, give me the breakdown.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks brother.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'll just let everyone know. We can tell everyone.

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Speaker 2: I don't care.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was Nick confirming. I want someone to be like, oh, it was just making a call.

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Speaker 2: That was casting because he told me to. Yeah, he told me to call him and remind him, so I text him. He didn't respond, so then I called him and then so he just called me back and I was like, hey, we're good in ten minutes, and he's like, yeah, perfect, talk to you then. But you know, when people ask you to remind him, I forget some time.

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Speaker 1: I agree. Yes, he's confirmed, he'll get us in five ten minutes. But are you okay with where the Dodgers bullpen is at now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I want to know. So they're going show hey, game one, do we know who's going Game two?

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Speaker 1: Hershaw No, I would think glass now.

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Speaker 2: Class okay, So then they go snow rere Rerackani's gonna throw on regular rest.

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Speaker 1: Well, so he's got an off day after getting another off day.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's right. I forgot twice in Philly.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's cool. Finally it's gonna happen. We've never seen Otani pitch in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: We're going to.

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Speaker 1: But I do think. I mean, Kratz, you've seen the Phillies bullpen. You know much more than we have. The Phillies have what three or four guys that you feel really good about? Do the Dodgers have that? Right? Like, I'm the biggest Rokie Sazaki fan right now. I think he's going to continue it. But that's just come out of the blue suddenly, right he made two appearances at the end of the regular season. What are we trusting right now in the bullpen? And Mechian looked bad, Bessie has been okay, Dryer looked bad. I mean, go down the line here. You're wondering if there are guys in ruts or guys that were just getting back into the feel of the postseason versus how Duran will look kirkering. Who else am I missing of the big boys?

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Speaker 2: You don't know?

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Speaker 3: You don't know, I mean David Robertson, Tanner Banks, You're I'm missing somebody else that you know?

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Speaker 2: Is that Core?

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Speaker 3: I think it's like four or five guys. To me, we know what we have with the Dodgers' bullpen. If the Phillies make them throw strikes, the Reds did not make them throw strikes in two a sense, Rokie, I mean Yoshi Novu, he didn't throw a ton of pitches in the zone. They chased way, but his stuff's a lot nastier than anybody in their pen. The Phillies make the Dodgers pen throw strikes, then they're cooked. I think the Dodgers' bullpen is cooked because even even Sasaki's even rokies out in yesterday, if he has to throw in the zone, it's more hit able stuff at a hundred. Is he gonna be able to with Is he gonna be able to keep one hundred up all the time because he's not starting and he's gonna pitch back to back nights. Those are questions too. If he's at that level, If he's at that level with that fork ball coming off of it, sure, I don't know. But they have to throw in the zone. They have to throw strikes in the zone because the Phillies will make them stay in the zone.

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Speaker 1: What do you think is that the X factor or the deciding rope the battle of the bullpens. Both lineups should be good, both starters should be good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it comes down to one. How Dave Robert Tandeles ball. Then what does he get? Can he get anything out of Tanner's coock? Can he get anything out of trying? And she looked awful last night. He looked like, whoa, well, what am I doing out here? Bad? Right? I mean he had to bring didn't bring Vessey in in like a one two count or something. I loved it.

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Speaker 1: I was like, wait, what one two? And He's like, I don't think he's going to be able to finish anyone right now, so I'm just gonna take him out. He's he doesn't have the strikeout stuff Benson get then gets replaced by and Dohart for one strike. I didn't like that's but yeah, but I.

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Speaker 2: Mean Keto is going for the he's trying to get back in the game. They were down eight to four at that point, so he was trying to hope and do our ran into one mad making eight seven or whatever it was. And but the whole key to this series is whose bullpen pitch is better? Because we saw Strom and Hoffman and some of these guys kirkering last and the postseason against the Mets las year. They didn't pitch very well. So Duran, okay, but then we'll Strom and Kirkering and some of these other guys step up and take over because no starter is going to go nine innings.

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Speaker 1: No, And if you're Philly, I think you try to do what the Reds did. Okay, in the first inning of their Game two loss, they actually took some decent pitches from Yamamoto. They were not biting at some pitches from him, and then it all kind of fell apart. Yamamoto was locating more, but they did not bite as much and Tao made the mistake. He had a twenty six pitch first. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he won fourteen extra pitches because Tao dropped the fly ba totally so great. But also, yeah, they put them at bats on. They filed off a bunch of pitches. They did take some pitches, but as the game went on, Yamamoto got better. Oh yeah, and so it was like once he saw it once after that first thing, he was like, all right, once the Dodgers started swinging in Mookie four hits and you're like you could just sense it coming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But if you're on Philly, is that part of your game plan? Hey, let's try and ride a pitch counsel, because get in the bullpen we want.

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Speaker 2: The bullets as possible. Let's get we want we want. Whoever comes out of that door is not going to be as good as the guy that's starting for the Dodgers, so we want that guy out there as quick as we can get him and Krats.

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Speaker 1: We might have a postseason that features a lot more high pitch counts than we've seen in several years because one hundred's been such a capper so often. But I think that we're kind of reaching this breaking point where starting pitching talent, especially the high end ones on the good teams, I'd rather have an extra inding or two out of them in many cases.

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Speaker 3: But you're also looking at teams that they were facing the bottom part of the order that's a little bit weaker crochet bottom part of the order. When he stayed in there, Yamamoto was just better than the entire reds order. Guys that are going deeper, it's going to be a matter of where they're at in the order. Philly Christopher Sanchez has shown he can go eight to nine innings, but you're also facing Key k Hernandez at the bottom of their order. You're also facing, you know, a pretty deep lineup, so you might not see it quite as deep, but I mean it's it's a thing this year and.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't need to hear it from the other side here, I get it. BeO is taken out early and Dylan c is taken out early. I'm not saying this is universal. I'm just saying we hadn't seen pitches like this. Oh, we got Nick coming up. We hadn't seen pitch counts like this in a minute, So let's break. Let's get to Nick Castianos next on FT Oh and a reminder text Territory two nine zero one seven two or two Lids two nine zero one seven and received twenty percent off your next headwear or a Pyrell purchase at any US lidstore. Will tell you more about it at the end of the show. I liked this tweet. I just brought it out for you. Imagine if your team had a rotation of Crochet, Roe, Done Gildo. That would be crazy. From Chuck on Twitter last night.

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Speaker 2: What team would ever ever have had all those people on one team? What is there any I just I'm scratching my head. I can't think of what team would possibly what.

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Speaker 1: If they had Prime Chris Sale.

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Speaker 2: On top of all because of Chris Sales.

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Speaker 1: That's true. That's true.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, what team I don't know. I'm scratching my lid here, my lid's head here. Which which one was it? I don't know. The White Sox had all those guys. The White Sox had all of Now, Crochet wasn't a starter at the time, but they also, yeah, they also.

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Speaker 1: Had Yeah, they probably should have made him a starter.

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Speaker 2: They did last year, remember, and then Chuck garfind said it was all his fault. They lost one hundred and twenty one game. Remember that.

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Speaker 1: Why was starter right away.

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Speaker 2: Because they brought him up early and he got hurt, right, We have to remember he got hurt right away. Yes, So he came up in twenty twenty, like fresh out of college, hurt his elbow like the next year, and so then they were trying to take it easy on him. But they this is what they did with Chris Sale, and they thought it would work again. They Chris Sale was in the bullpen when he first came up, and they're like, oh, he could be our closer, and so I was like, I want to start, and finally they said, a right, we're going to start you because you're pretty good.

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Speaker 1: It did work out for both. I know, yeah, they don't get to reap all the benefits of the second one. Brett Anderson, former big league pitcher, tweeted this last night. Arguably the best pitch ever thrown by a human being. He retweeted or quote tweeted one of the Mason Miller pitches from yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It was one hundred and four point five.

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Speaker 1: Dott, It don't what do you do with that pitch?

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Speaker 2: Nothing? You do what Carson Kelly did? You just go back to dugout and go, uh yeah, help. I don't know what do you try to file it off? I don't even know if you can follow the pitch off.

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Speaker 3: Four point fifty dead center, Baby, that's what you do with it Back in my day, that's exactly what you tell That's what's exactly what you tell everybody to do if you can throw the pitch down in a way. But we all live up in the zone, banger ripping the Tommy John Slider. That pitch right there is unhittable. That really is the most perfect pitch in all baseball.

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Speaker 2: Oh and it was at one hundred and four point five.

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Speaker 1: What was it? His first eight batters faced were strikeouts. Yeah, until you hit the guy right we're in the postseason. These are good hitters and he is just mowing down. He is amping it up to another And for me, Kratz, I'm grateful that he was traded because I brought this up yesterday. Our sport can see guys go through their prime and not play in the postseason. We all deserve, the world deserves to have people like Mason Miller at center stage. Not with the A's who are in an eighty year rebuild.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they need to make the postseason. I think they need to need to see guys like this in positions to push their team into the postseason. It's too hard to always say, oh, we're gonna make the postseason. I hope Leo DeVries is a ridiculous player one day, because that's who they gave up to get Mason Miller. Worth every penny. Whatever he becomes, it is worth every penny if this guy, If Mason Miller pushes the Padres onto a World Series, onto World Series championship.

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Speaker 1: I think even if he's just pitching well for them in postseason games, then.

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Speaker 2: He's done this postseason. He's worth every No. I mean if they win this series, question is yes, which we'll get into a little bit here.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll get into it.

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Speaker 2: Get into it. But what he's done, all right, I mean he's the most dominant pitcher going right now.

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Speaker 1: Better than box scores. What a Yankees Red Sox series. This is reigniting the rivalry. In my mind, it is taking center stage. It is prime time, and we'll mix in our thoughts from Games one and two, but I do want to make sure we push it forward, and I would like to start with the fact that you have two big markets, storied franchises, both postseason bound, and they're in an elimination game. One of them is going to see their season end, and they're both throwing out rookies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of them is from Northeastern Went is in Boston. Schlitters, from which the Way.

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Speaker 1: Was a Red Sox fan, Yes, of course he was.

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Speaker 2: And Early right.

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Speaker 1: Early Connelly Early has four big league starts.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what they got.

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Speaker 1: So this isn't a slight They both have great stuff. I'm just like.

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Speaker 2: Here, this is great right here.

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Speaker 1: Camp Sill Schlittler, Schlittler. I've said it a lot this year and I've heard the broadcasters struggle through it first time facing Boston.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: That was his first time facing Boston. Yeah, they do the exhibition game, but.

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Speaker 2: Listen, it's pretty awesome that this is how much the game has changed. Remember John Lackey back in two thousand and two pitch game seven for the Angels, was the first rookie to start a game seven. And like forever and now here we are elimination games. We got rookie starting over Chiconi and Cleveland, right and these two rookies starting. There's rookie starting all over the place. So it's this, this is just the way it is now in baseball. You can go with the guys and the best stuff, you hope to get them one time through the order, and then you run to the bullpen.

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Speaker 1: And it's a younger game, right. Yeah, so many rookies got called up. There's so many stories where it's like this guy was in a ball in the beginning of the season and look where he is now. I mean, we're getting a lot of that.

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Speaker 3: I'd hate to see these dudes enable because they are throwing up some nasty funk Schlitler Schlittler just rose through the system and to see that in the bushes, you're like, when do we play this? When do we play Somerset again? The Yankees double a. Maybe he'll be out of here next time we get through here. I love it, though, I love it. You go with the best people you.

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Speaker 2: Got and again they're gonna be out They're not gonna be out there very long. They're gonna be out there. If they get three innings out of them, both these guys before they run to the bullpen, it'll be it'll be a great job by both of them.

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Speaker 1: But if they're pitching, well, they'll let them eat. No, you don't think so. I think the Yankees have to be careful. Schlitler's had some really strong performances and he can go deep. Yeah, I think the Yankees have to be careful about pulling someone early. Like do you do you like the way that they handled Rodin?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, it was funny. Aaron Boone took all the heat next and then he went to get him and Roddan talked his way back in. He got the next two guys out and obviously got out in a double play. He got out of it and then he let him go back out there and it was walk walk, Remember, cruise came in and I don't know what down a bunnet tempire, Saddan Rafaela was. He literally tried to bun at a ball that might have hit Aaron Boone in the home, dugout how far outside it was, popped it up, and then obviously he got out of it. But yeah, I mean the Red Sox kind of let him off the hook.

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Speaker 1: I felt like a little bit there isn't the boon decision a direct reaction to Game one? Yes, has to be.

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Speaker 2: He heard all the he heard all the static.

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Speaker 1: Also they lost. They lost Game one? Is that simple? I mean, look at Dave Roberts letting Yamamoto pitch a career high in terms of his tosses and Kraft. It's not always going to work out. I mean, we had a time period where managers let starters go really deep into postseason outings until third fourth time around they started getting hit. Some didn't need to be pitching that deep into outings. But in this particular scenario, you think the Yankees are making some adjustments on the fly, And how do you think that factors into Schlitler because the same bullpen guys are being used. So the reds Acts are going to get another look at them if they're gonna use them.

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Speaker 2: Again, because I know yesterday, especially at the end. Yeah, but you can't let that guy go that many pitches. I'm sorry, you can't let go forty something pitches because he's not available today.

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Speaker 1: No, he's not. But Fernando Cruz has pitched both games, right, Bednar's pitched both games? Is Devin Williams both both games? Okay? So those three are they gonna all pitch again?

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I'm sure all three of them. Well, yes, a huge amount of pitches.

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Speaker 1: If Schlittler's going three, you have a lot to do to get to those guys. Kratz, if he looks like I've seen him in many of his outings, I'm lettinghim eet.

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Speaker 3: Scoreboard isn't this isn't this section called better than box scores? Check out the scoreboard. That is exactly how long you're gonna let them go. If it's a zero zero game and the lane comes up where there's a chance somebody has a two zero count in front of the lane of where another pitcher is gonna have a better chance than Schlitler. That guy's coming in. That's that's how it's gonna go. Now the Yankees come out, they hit a three run dinger in the first Schlittler might be able to cruise through that lane if he's continued to go well. No manager is going to lose with a rookie on the mound. No manager is going to lose with their best pin hitters on the bench, with their best with their best pitchers in the bullpen in an elimination game.

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Speaker 1: Chapman's got two innings in him if they want, if they.

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Speaker 3: Need him to, Yes, Whitlock might be the only one that's down. In my opinion, Whitlock might be down, and everybody everybody tries to say, oh, well, what kind of adjustments can the Yankees make? I don't know that it was necessarily you know, okay, Well Red Freed didn't talk himself into it. Carlos Rodin talked himself in Plum into going back out there.

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Speaker 2: But then you've got to reevaluate.

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Speaker 3: Carlos Rodin has to be honest, like, of course he's gonna be like, yeah, I got it. How do you know that dude's gonna come out and plump the first dude on two to oh and then throw four straight balls to Duran, or maybe he plumped Duran, he walked the first guy. I don't know what exactly happened there, but you don't know that he's gonna do that. So it's a two way street. It's not just a boony street or an Alex Krus street. It's a how do you truly feel what is happening? And that might be how you win and lose the game tonight.

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Speaker 1: What about position? Player wise? There's more to decide always with the Yankees, or at least it seems that way.

00:22:48
Speaker 2: You're running jazz back out there.

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Speaker 1: That was the one thing he said.

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Speaker 2: Running jazz. Hopefully he played what he said, he played the show last night or at nine innings or whatever he.

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Speaker 1: Played last that was the night before to get someone of rage quit. You know, he just wanted to take this frustration out. That's a good way to do it. Just beat someone's ass in the video.

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Speaker 2: Imagine the poor kid. He could have just said, he went out and played. You know, I run ruled the guy. Twelve year old kid out there was like, well, I got run rolled last night was it that got me? Maybe that's why he had his back turned to the media. He was actually playing a game of that's true. MLB nine innings tell him he makes more money than him. What was the other I'm not going to say it, but the other thing he's sent out there all the time.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, he's a trip. He's a trip. Where are we at on the rest? I mean Ben Rice.

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Speaker 2: And Rice hit the homer? Ben Rice homer?

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Speaker 1: Doesn't he have to get all his at bats?

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Speaker 2: He would think, But you're gonna take Golchiman out against the lefty knowing that they're going to run to right He's eventually at some point.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's my question.

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Speaker 2: Then you start Ben Rice.

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Speaker 1: Do you just go right away Ben Rice and just let him get four at backs?

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Speaker 2: You do? I think you do? If i'm if I'm if I'm Ara Boon.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, these are hot power hitter right now.

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Speaker 3: And you save Goldie for when they bring Chapman in. I don't think you put Ben Rice in there against Chappie unless he's got a history. I don't know what his history is against him. But if you start Goldie and then you go right to Ben Rice, you might be matching up in a bad situation late in the game where you can then the Red Sox advantage ultimately happens. So yeah, Ben Rice in there one percent.

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Speaker 1: Which team needs this more? The Yankees, they're more loaded up this year.

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Speaker 2: Because of exactly what you just said.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Yankees made the World Series. Last year, Red Sox had.

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Speaker 2: One in the Aaron Boone, Aaron Aaron era, the Aaron era Aaron Boone and Aaron Judges. You haven't won a World Series and nobody cares. The Red Sox are looking at us like, hey, we didn't really do a lot and work.

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Speaker 1: Here we are tradeed Devers made the playoffs? No Roman Anthony.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the Red Sox fans will come up with excuses, okay, meaning like, yes, well you just said we traded Devers, no Anthony, no Casas know this, know that I forgot about, No Gialito right, no this, no that? Well the Yankees are I mean other than Garrett Cole. Hey, they went and got everything they wanted and when the trades at the deadline, they got Devin Williams, they signed Max Reed, right, they went out and got gold, They went out and traded for McMahon, right, all these things that they needed to do, they thought to help them. So it's always the Yankees if they don't make the World if they don't win the World Series. Like the World Series is great, but now what happens is with the Yankees fans, they think, oh, we made the World Tiers, so next year we're gonna win it because now we have experience to lose in the Division Series. Doesn't sit well with Yankee fans.

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Speaker 1: No, Okay, Connery early with his you know classic line, Yeah, I'm gonna go out there and be ampt blah blah blah. Lumerloni who just dialed in on the team out there? How long he goes. But I'll say this, I have zero concerns with this kid on the mound. He's legit attacks, gets swing and miss, and won't be afraid.

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Speaker 2: That's what everybody said. What did Mike Tyson saying? So you get punched in them out? Everyone has a plan to get punched in them out.

00:26:13
Speaker 1: And then you go, he's only made four starts, guys, take it easy, now, listen.

00:26:17
Speaker 2: I hope this kid goes out. I hope this is a great game. Me too, But I hope they score it runs. But I hope this is a same.

00:26:24
Speaker 1: This has been a great series. Two games so far felt like five.

00:26:28
Speaker 2: No, it's been. It's been awesome. There's been so much strategicy and so many things that could go right or wrong, and there's so much to talk about. It's always is the Red Sox and Yankees.

00:26:35
Speaker 1: Though, you know, we've never seen something during this short run. We've never seen a team lose game one win the next two in this small wild card three game series.

00:26:48
Speaker 2: We've also seen two game threes and we got three today.

00:26:50
Speaker 1: It was only a matter of time until that all got broken up. Yeah, this is this is what the league is selling crats. These serial are very intriguing in a package right for them to sell, and I think these are going to go to NBC next But it's cool to get the one. But if they're all, you know, two to oh much less sexy, game three then turns into what they had, which was a winner take all one gamer before this.

00:27:19
Speaker 3: Which is what everyone wants to lean a little bit closer to the screen for everybody's gonna be watching. If you weren't watching last night, or if you only watch part of the game. This is this is legit October, Baseball.

00:27:33
Speaker 1: Already attendance numbers for Day two of the Wildcard Series Detroit and Cleveland twenty six, six sixty nine, with many complaints from fans that they're the one o'clock game each day. It is what it is. And I know that many people work hard in America and can't take off work, and that's understandable. Padres and Cubs at forty one thousand, wait running back for me, and then we've got Red Sox and Yankees forty seven, nine ninety three. You'll always get this complaint to Dodgers at fifty thousand and four to sixty five. That ballpark holds more people. So we're not saying this is like some competition. I think. Really, you point out Philly.

00:28:12
Speaker 2: Said thirty one thousand in a scrimmage game last night. How much does also throw that in there? How come the mirrors? Maybe ask Logan Gilbert? How come the Marritors didn't have fun the Phillies.

00:28:23
Speaker 3: The Phillies thing was I was invited and invited alumni and everything too, to like make it a whole experience. Citizens Bank holds more than that that was sold out. That was all the tickets that they were allowed to sell something based on I think like non actual game capacity and stuff like that. But it was ridiculous. It was it was a ridiculous show of to me the Phillies organization to do that. But it's also the fact that Phillies fans are coming out hot.

00:28:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, and all they went to charity, by the way, it always to Phillies charities. That's the move. That's awesome. Forty three thousands. How much the ballpark holds in Philadelphia around that the bank and then in Cleveland Progressive Field they hold about thirty five thousand.

00:29:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were some empty seats there first two games there has been empty seats.

00:29:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, we see this though with the day at one o'clock. Remember Tampa.

00:29:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they had to. I remember, listen, I played in Oakland. I played a game five in Oakland.

00:29:23
Speaker 3: There was nobody there, really nobody there, like how much?

00:29:29
Speaker 2: Like how much? I don't even twenty thousand. Maybe this is when they had the this is the moneyball year in two thousand and two, and we did that stupid shit two thousand and two. This is when they had Hudson Mulder, Zito Chaves Tahata was the MVP. Ramon Hernandez, the whole the whole kit and kaboodle that it's a year they made the movie off of it. Should showed the stadium.

00:29:52
Speaker 1: He held the dagger, the sword up and put that dagger.

00:29:55
Speaker 2: Deep in that hour he put that vampire.

00:29:58
Speaker 3: He did, he did the Baker Mayfield and planning the plan in the twin Flag in Oakland?

00:30:02
Speaker 2: Did I ever? Did I ever trustin? If you know what I mean, check that game out, Check that game out. Put that dag heart Wow.

00:30:11
Speaker 3: Look, seriously, fans need to go and look at the hit that AJ had and anyway, just watch it.

00:30:19
Speaker 2: Gives me good.

00:30:19
Speaker 1: Mom got a little tweet from the legendary Sarah Langs. Teams playing in their home ballparks are sixty four and sixty six all time and winner take all postseason games aka oldfielder.

00:30:34
Speaker 2: The manager doesn't mean anything.

00:30:36
Speaker 1: Not much. I wish it did, but it doesn't mean a ton right.

00:30:41
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean anything. What about the first team to score? First team to score matters much. You always want to be the first team to score, especially the road. That's why I said I always like being on the road sometimes in these playoff games, because if you score first, the pressure goes through the roof on the other teams.

00:30:59
Speaker 3: Sarah has Langs had it tweet about the team that scores first, and.

00:31:03
Speaker 2: I don't I don't remember what it is. That's that's brutal by me.

00:31:07
Speaker 3: But and I honestly think being on the road sometimes in the playoffs there's less distraction. Some people might say, well, your family has to get there. You don't know where the next city is. The teams that take care of the families and everything wipe that completely off the table. You're on the road and you score. It is so cool to see the entire stadium just quiet as a church mouse, except for your one section of family and then your one section of people you don't really like that much. It's in the upper deck that got much cheap. They bought much cheaper tickets for and your bench.

00:31:45
Speaker 2: That's it. That's the only cheering you hear.

00:31:48
Speaker 1: I found it. Sary Lang said, teams that score first are eighty four and forty nine all time in winner and take all postseason games.

00:31:55
Speaker 2: Score first.

00:31:56
Speaker 1: Big to catch everyone up. I know we are spending ninety eight percent of our time on the postseason, which we should do. But the amount of news that has popped up with managers and some front office members would be leading off show after show after show in the off season, and it just gets pushed aside right now because of what's happening. They need to fill those spots though, So I get it. But Bob Knight and guests that how validal is the security of major league managers. They're only five managers hired by their current franchise since twenty twenty two who are still employed, and there are eight managerial opens. I think he's referring to somewhere. We don't know the answer yet on some interims, right, we didn't get the Orioles decision yet, the Rockies decision. I mean the Rockets are going to hire a new front office. Dude, he's gonna keep the same flow going. He's gonna bring someone. He's gonna bring his own guy. No, probably, So there's a lot going on. Oh the Nationals too, Yeah, if he's going to continue to Bony just started so we'll see. But dude, you don't have a lot of time if you're a manager.

00:33:02
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two, who are the five Dave.

00:33:04
Speaker 1: Roberts, Aaron Boone, Aaron Boone, Colorra Cora.

00:33:11
Speaker 2: Who? So those are the three that I could think of off the top of my head.

00:33:14
Speaker 3: Rock about Delli, Oh, Kevin Cash, Oh yeah, Casher's never leading.

00:33:19
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, he's been.

00:33:20
Speaker 2: There for one four now there's one more than who's the who's the fifth?

00:33:25
Speaker 1: I don't know. Bob should have told us in the follow up reply tweet, I'd have to go down the line.

00:33:32
Speaker 3: Not Joe Spotting right, because now Olli was Ali there since twenty two.

00:33:37
Speaker 2: That could be I don't know your shilt left.

00:33:41
Speaker 1: No, I think I think it's hired. I think I think it's Ali Holli because I was in spring training with him when I worked for the league, So that would track hired in October of twenty twenty one. Good job crafts, good trivia.

00:33:59
Speaker 2: Do you think we really?

00:34:01
Speaker 1: No?

00:34:01
Speaker 2: No, No, go ahead, show.

00:34:02
Speaker 1: What I want to show the other board of the manager openings again. While you I'm just gonna say, look at what happened in Miami.

00:34:10
Speaker 3: They started calling pitches from the dugouts. You don't think that kind of stuff permeates up to the top and it's like, well, why do we need a manager need why do we need this? Why can't we just change this? We can do it on our own. I'm gonna say it's a direct correlation with the pitch calling. I'm saying maybe some people who are making these decisions are getting a little too big for their breitches and they're forgetting or they don't know what it really takes to be a manager on the field, and they're like, well, if he doesn't listen to this, we will, we will fire him and we will get somebody new because it's not that important of a job.

00:34:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, the power pendulum is totally swung and it continues to swing mm hmm in terms of the importance meter. I'm with you.

00:34:55
Speaker 3: Rachel Bakovec. We had her on before now she I thought. I asked her, do you or maybe AJ asked her, do you want to be a manager in the big leagues someday? And she was like, who has who has all the power? And it was like, oh, yeah, you're right, somebody who could have been a big first female big league manager. No, She's like, I know, I know who makes the decision.

00:35:23
Speaker 1: I loved that answer from her too. That's just like, hey, maybe that's a dream from years ago, but I don't want to be told what to do and never be able to make my own calls.

00:35:34
Speaker 2: M h.

00:35:35
Speaker 1: That's generally what happens. I mean, you know, it's become a lot more of a psychology role it has.

00:35:40
Speaker 2: It's more of a communication and daddy, who is this? And let's make everybody feel good and everybody happy, and we don't want to yell at anybody. And so it's all about communication. How well of a communicator you.

00:35:52
Speaker 1: Are, yeah, and how you represent the organization because you do a lot of media, right, media, Yes, so you'll talk represent and the organization. Well, it is important. There are some managers that can truly shine. I mean to me, Dave Roberts managing in Game two with the victory just now for the Dodgers. I get it. He's being given a very very talented ball club, but the bullpen that he's been given is not easy to navigate. And not many managers say one two pitch, let's change this up. Or hey, Yamamoto, you're going deep. I know, we baby you and take care of you extra rest and pitch counts and whatever, but not now, buddy.

00:36:30
Speaker 3: Aj Hinch took his best hitter out for a pinch, or he's reading the situation. That is why if if I would ever become a manager one day, and that is not at all like a dream or a goal of mine. It's not about the moves that you make in the game. Dude, I could we could sit here and watch a game and you'd be like, oh, well, they're gonna probably go to this and probably go to that because of this. That's to me, that's remedial managing. Managing is about how you get the most out of your play day in and day out, and that relationship is built the entire season. Oh this guy screwed this guy he made me hit, he made me play seven inns first game of spring training.

00:37:10
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hold that against him, or screw this guy he didn't.

00:37:13
Speaker 3: You know, guys are guys are looking for an excuse of why they're hitting two eighty and not three ten. As a manager, you build those dudes up.

00:37:35
Speaker 1: Flappans krattats with a minute to go, What do you have for us?

00:37:40
Speaker 3: It's the same Lids hat. But you know what it's happening this weekend. They just had the biggest scrimmage game of all time the backyard Again boys, Lids broke it out. Yes, I'm holding it upside down. I think it's just it's fresh. It's like it's like something new. I wore it the other day.

00:37:59
Speaker 1: But it's so so A J's got his two text Territory to two nine zero one seven get yourself twenty percent off your next I think this is Christmas edition or the Green with the Town.

00:38:12
Speaker 2: It's like Christmas edition.

00:38:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's that's what you get.

00:38:17
Speaker 2: You see that like sometimes obviously a man that's so sick.

00:38:22
Speaker 1: You had a lot of variety there.

00:38:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, so cool displayed.

00:38:27
Speaker 1: Apparently we were wrong on what we were saying, or maybe Bob Knight and goes tweet was off with the manager thing. Yeah. Levello, Yeah, Lavello, Cora boone cash Doc.

00:38:40
Speaker 2: It's okay. We got five sohne one two, three, four, five.

00:38:48
Speaker 1: Six, Caste, Marmal Copper and Schneider took over mid twenty twenty two. That doesn't count. That's happily or into the.

00:38:56
Speaker 2: Show he said five, didn't he? Yeah?

00:39:00
Speaker 1: I love sometimes you got to just throw some some things out there, and we love what sticks. We do love Bob. I love me some Bob. So here's the deal. We are saying goodbye in a minute, and then we're saying hi, again in a few hours. Cleveland and Detroit will be watching, so will you, and then we will talk as soon as the game ends. We're live on the FT YouTube channel. Just flip right away and we'll talk again, and we'll go over everything that we saw, and we will say goodbye to one of the two teams that you see on the screen right now, and we will say good job either Detroit or Cleveland. Now head to Seattle and take on the Mariners. So someone's getting knocked out in the Al Central. Enjoy all the game threes if you're not going to be with us, but again, we'd love to have you after that game for the postgame show and then of course back on Friday with FT. I think Todd Father will be back from that series. Stay tuned. Let's put out the odds boost token call out for the twenty twenty six postseason. You get yourself an MLB postseason nods boost token and to use it, add an MLB postseason wager to your bet slip and activate the token. If you win your wager that was made with that boost token, that means extra winnings. That's how it boost works. Okay, gambling problem or concern call one eight hundred gambling