Episode 93 - The History of Evil Engines

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome back to the lunatic radio hour podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Abby Brer.

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<v Speaker 1>I am sitting here with the one and only Alan Codan.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>And today we are talking about killer cars, killer

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<v Speaker 2>Cars, or evil

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<v Speaker 1>Engines, evil engines, killer cars.

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<v Speaker 1>However you wanna spin it.

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<v Speaker 2>We, we went through a lot of names for this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Besides, you know, killer cars and evil engines.

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<v Speaker 2>We also had murderous machines.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm<affirmative> uh, homicidal vehicles.

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<v Speaker 1>That one doesn't there's no alliteration there.

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<v Speaker 1>I

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<v Speaker 2>Know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I made it.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't make it past the cutting room floor<laugh> you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was one more, what was

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<v Speaker 1>It?

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<v Speaker 1>Mad motors.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, murderous motors.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Murderous

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<v Speaker 1>Motors.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're talking today about, well, you should introduce it because this was your topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it mm-hmm<affirmative> did you think killer cars was on my to-do list?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 2>So this entire topic came to fruition when I became aware of the movie maximum overdrive<laugh> yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Which, uh, we're gonna talk about later in the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes we are.

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<v Speaker 2>But long story short is that it's a truck sales people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought, oh wow, this is a great deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I love doing episodes on like different creature features, you know, and this is just like a different type of monster.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And this it being a, a mechanized one, but then I had to take a big step back mm-hmm<affirmative> cause I do not want to delve into the world of killer robots.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that seems like an endless infinite number of films.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>There's lots.

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<v Speaker 2>However, I just wanna make sure that that has its own dedicated episode yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Or series.

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<v Speaker 2>So in this we're talking specifically about evil engines, evil cars,

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<v Speaker 1>Vehicles, because engines can be in other things, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Malicious vehicles.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Autonomously malicious vehicles.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Because some of them don't murder, you know, but, but they're, they're on the spectrum of their bad and they're self aware.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So this can be a possessed car.

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<v Speaker 2>This can be just like a demonic truck.

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<v Speaker 1>Telekinetic tire

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<v Speaker 2>It's well, we, we do, we do, we are going to bend the rules a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not an engine.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's

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<v Speaker 2>But that's kind of its own thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's, I mean, it's on theme enough.

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<v Speaker 1>It is it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>Part of a car<laugh> so, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Without further ado we're we're already starting talking about the movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's let's take a big step back here, cuz I assume there's some history involved.

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<v Speaker 2>There

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<v Speaker 1>Is a bit of history, some real life accounts of killer cars that I was floored to have found floored.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm-hmm<affirmative>

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<v Speaker 2>Another car pun.

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<v Speaker 2><laugh>

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, I do wanna give a content warning at the top of this episode, as you might expect, we are going to talk about a lot of car accidents, both real life, car accidents and a lot of car related violence.

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<v Speaker 1>So just in case that's a trigger for you.

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<v Speaker 1>We wanted to call that out at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's sources include the novel by Steven King, Christine assorted films, all of which we will cite as we go an article from Volo cars.com, Wikipedia and IMDB, starting in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>There are reports of quote unquote, the most evil car in America.

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<v Speaker 1>What,

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<v Speaker 2>What, what is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it was a 1969 Dodge, three 30, which also I'm gonna try to, I'm gonna name a lot of cars in this episode and I'm not a car person.

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<v Speaker 1>So hang

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<v Speaker 2>On.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, I'm not a car person at all, but I, I, I like visual references.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you are

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<v Speaker 1>A car person, you know, your way around, uh, under the hood.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's me, Mr.

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<v Speaker 2>Mechanics.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't

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<v Speaker 1>Know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you, you know the parts I had to like Google a bunch of parts when I was writing one of the stories, because I don't know how cars work.

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 2>So I just Googled the Dodge three 30, cuz I'm not familiar with it.

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<v Speaker 2>What year did you say it was?

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<v Speaker 2>64.

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<v Speaker 2>64.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>It was made from 62 to 64.

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<v Speaker 2>It, it just kind of looks like your generic old sort of sporty sedan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Very cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Generic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So according to some, this is the car that inspired Steven King's Christine.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, which we will talk about at length later.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes we will.

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<v Speaker 1>The legend goes at this Dodge was a police car during its professional career.

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<v Speaker 1>It was used by three different police officers.

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<v Speaker 1>All of whom went on to commit murder and complete suicide.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>All three police officers.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was all familial, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Like they, they killed their families and then themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh sure.

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<v Speaker 1>As

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>As, as you

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<v Speaker 1>Do.

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<v Speaker 1>So of course, right.

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<v Speaker 1>These are just terrible horrific events.

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<v Speaker 1>The rumors started to spread that the Dodge three 30 was possessing its owners.

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<v Speaker 1>So you could either believe that this car was actually evil mm-hmm<affirmative> or you could say that the, you know, for whatever was happening in their lives, these three people did these horrible things.

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<v Speaker 1>And so somebody tried to create like an urban legend around it, maybe to make it easier to swallow.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I wanna say all of the real life stuff that I'm gonna talk about is from, uh, like almost like a bloggy type website.

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<v Speaker 1>So take it with a grain of salt.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like fun, urban legends, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Buzzfeeds top 10, most murderous clients.

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<v Speaker 1>They're it's not Buzzfeed, but you know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 1>They're not like from the New York times.

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<v Speaker 1>So for whatever reason, this car was not immediately destroyed after the third familial destruction.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>It somehow found its way to a woman named Wendy Allen.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>When Wendy drove on the highway, the cars doors would open on their own and the steering wheel would jam.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>This doesn't seem very safe.

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<v Speaker 2><laugh>

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<v Speaker 1>The legend continued that a church group heard about the car and they decided right.

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<v Speaker 1>That they wanted to try and ruin the car so that it would no longer be drivable and it couldn't hurt anybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>That seems like a sensible thing for a church group to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I like a, a church group.

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<v Speaker 1>That's up to vandalize, you know, you ever

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<v Speaker 2><laugh> you ever go to like one of those fundraisers where it's like smash the car for$5?

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<v Speaker 1>No, but that would be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Get out some

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<v Speaker 2>Rage.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I'm talking about though?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's honestly they're a bit disappointing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you've done it.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course I've done it.

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<v Speaker 2>How many times?

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<v Speaker 2>And not too many because it's disapp.

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<v Speaker 2>Why?

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<v Speaker 2>So you get the sledgehammer, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm<affirmative> and the thing is like all of the glass has been removed from the car.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, oh sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's cause like that's a huge safety concern.

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<v Speaker 2>There's only so much damage you can do to a sledge, to a giant block of metal with a sledgehammer, unless you're like Superman in which, why do you, why do hold Hogan?

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<v Speaker 2>What it, his name?

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<v Speaker 1>The Hulk, the Hulk

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<v Speaker 2><laugh> Hulk, Hulk and the re who's also a very muscular man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He could probably do some more damage than your average person.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the blonde one, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>With, with the bandana.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And the

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<v Speaker 1>Mustache.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about the same thing we,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so sorta<laugh> but you give the car a whack sure.

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<v Speaker 2>For$5

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<v Speaker 1>Uhhuh.

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<v Speaker 1>So one w per$5.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know, maybe it's$5.

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<v Speaker 2>You get three wax or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, it's just like somebody donates a, a beater beater.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you just, you, you destroy it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is a good time in the E frustrating.

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<v Speaker 2>Cuz he also, you know, I think I also did this when I was like a child.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So you couldn't even lift this ledge.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Cuz I got those little noodle arms<laugh>

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<v Speaker 1>They, they have those, uh, rooms.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you can like destruction rooms where you know, it's like, oh you broke up with your boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go to the break, EV all the room and you wear a hazmat suit and they give you a hammer and it's just filled with things.

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<v Speaker 1>You can break with your friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Really?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a paintball thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just vs.

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<v Speaker 1>And fans and guitars, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And you have a hammer and you, you and your friends go in and just like break everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like growing up by a scrapyard.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Which you have lots of experience with.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you, what would you go to the scrapyard and destroy?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you that the most satisfying thing to destroy mm-hmm<affirmative> is CRT televisions.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one that's like just like an old television, right?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a block.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the giant box.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So how thick do you think the glass is on a CRT television.

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<v Speaker 1>A millimeter.

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<v Speaker 1>A

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<v Speaker 2>Millimeter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's thin.

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<v Speaker 1>Really?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, it's about four to five inches thick.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy thick.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you even destroy it then?

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<v Speaker 1>Excellent

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<v Speaker 2>Question.

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<v Speaker 2><laugh> so, you know, the first time we were breaking one of these cuz also that's why it's so heavy.

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<v Speaker 1>Your dad let you do this.

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<v Speaker 1>This was kosher.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he has some broken glass everywhere, but you know, he's whatever, it's, you know, a scrapyard scrapyard, uh, he just gotta be careful, no flip flops.

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<v Speaker 2>No God, no.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, you have, you know, you take like pipes and bats and stuff and you can throw, you know, you're, you're throwing stuff, you're whacking it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, it's really hard to break those.

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<v Speaker 2>But the best way that like our personal favor is when you take like a pipe valve, like, you know, like the water shutoff valve that you, the fireman spin, you know, mm-hmm<affirmative> uh, you take one of those and you throw like a dip and like that just like tears

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<v Speaker 1>Through it.

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<v Speaker 1>I did discus in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you?

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<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm<affirmative> you'd be very good

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<v Speaker 1>At this then.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, who said I was good at discus.

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine dropping it off of the roof would also break it pretty easily.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, these are so freaking heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>These TVs weigh like 50 pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Was this you and your friends doing this?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course us after you were chugging the sodas

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<v Speaker 2><laugh> yeah, we would just get so amped up on, on, on big F Cola that and then sugar rush and then yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Just, uh, destroy these things.

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<v Speaker 2><laugh>

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<v Speaker 1>But no.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So you had the fun house and in middle school, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>You're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>TVs were, I mean, TVs were fun, you know, a bunch of stuff like, you know, like just appliances washing machines, fridges, like again, they're fun to hit mm-hmm<affirmative> but like they're hard to destroy cuz they're blocks of metal.

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<v Speaker 2>It's why they're at a scrapyard in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just a, it's very hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Just do a lot of damage to these things that have a lot of structural integrity.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm<affirmative> computer towers.

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<v Speaker 2>I, on the other hand, just like you can rip those apart like butter, but

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They just melt away in your mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>You

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<v Speaker 2>Know, I had a very speckled past, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is not me now uhoh however, one of the most fun things that you can do with, to, with like a, with computer components, like a motherboard or something is, is burn it.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's so many different metals and chemicals and everything that the fire changes to all these different colors as the components burn.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just super bad for the

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<v Speaker 1>Environment.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the Aurora Borealis

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<v Speaker 2>It's but mixed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the red neck of Aurora bore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, but yeah, you just, you throw a, a motherboard onto a, a, a barrel fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, and it just, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You get all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>Colors and you breathe it in and get real high.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a little off topic here.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've been talking about murdering machines.

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<v Speaker 2><laugh> not, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now let's get back on for

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<v Speaker 1>Murderous motor.

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<v Speaker 1>So right.

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<v Speaker 1>The, the church group, they decided to go and try to destroy the car with, with all violence childhood friends.

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<v Speaker 1>And unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>They realized it's freaking hard.

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<v Speaker 1>They realized it was hard.

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<v Speaker 1>They gave up.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 1>So they did, they actually had some success.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And they kind of beat up the car a little bit, but very sadly, many of those people were killed in a car accident.

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<v Speaker 2>So they weren't just like on the side of the road doing this and the 18 wheel comes by.

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<v Speaker 2>No,

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<v Speaker 1>It was written in a way where it made it sound like was soon after, but not immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it.

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<v Speaker 2>So the spirit of the car contacted its car friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this one also could be more like curse, you know, like the curse was passed along.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So one church member that wasn't killed in the accident that somehow survived the accident or wasn't in the car, they ended up getting killed by being struck by lightning.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And that wasn't the end of it in 2007.

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<v Speaker 1>So much more recently things got even worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently a child to touch the car and went on to kill their entire

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, hold on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The car was still around in 2007.

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<v Speaker 2>Uhhuh.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from the sixties.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the car is from 64.

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<v Speaker 1>It was probably at like a scrap metal yard or something

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<v Speaker 2>Still.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would

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<v Speaker 1>Christine would still be around

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<v Speaker 2>It's a long time for a car to be around?

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<v Speaker 2>That's not like a collector's piece.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So at this point a church group unclear if it was the same church group or a different one, took the car apart and sent the pieces to different junkyards across the country to ensure that it would never hurt anyone else ever again.

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<v Speaker 2>And every one of those junk yards were struck by lightning and one of them

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<v Speaker 1>Was your no.

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, that's the story of the most evil car in America.

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<v Speaker 2>My father was ahead of his time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, you know, but my, my father was the fourth generation mm-hmm<affirmative> of running this scrapyard among my family and never would touch cars.

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<v Speaker 2>Why that was well, I mean the official reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that, you know, you just, you get, and it's a whole, it's a whole different world when you're, uh, scrapping cars.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>For one, it's just requires a lot of different machinery.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm<affirmative> two, you have the whole world of sh if a car comes in, should you like try to save some parts on it?

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<v Speaker 2>Should you try to sell it as parts?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's just a whole complicated.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's, it's a whole level, extra level of complication on, on top of that.

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<v Speaker 2>The storage for these is huge, you know, mm-hmm,<affirmative>, it's not just like a pile of appliances.

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<v Speaker 2>A pile cars is huge.

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<v Speaker 2>You just need the space for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, and this was kind of a small little scrapyard.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the official reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The books, the, the officially recorded

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<v Speaker 2>Reason, right?

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<v Speaker 2>The off the books reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Is clearly cuz he wanted nothing to do with murderous motors.

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<v Speaker 1><laugh> that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a smart guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the smartest.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you really wanna scrap something that carries a curse?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably

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<v Speaker 1>Not.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're saying it's unlikely that like copper pipes and things have curses.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Copper and brass inherently are antibacterial things.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Kill the substances.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't survive on the surface.

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<v Speaker 2>They kill evil.

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<v Speaker 2>So theoretically, yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Germs are evil.

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<v Speaker 2>I theoretically the curse would naturally be eliminated as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You ring the bras bell, you know, toward off spirits.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I, I do it all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna caveat this next portion even more so.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Because this is about a real life famous person and I am more so telling this to represent the folklore that exists around this real tragic event, not to glorify that, not to glorify like making this tragic death paranormal or any other piece of it, not to glorify what happened, but I just wanna caveat cuz this is like based on a real named person versus the last one, which was all kind of like unnamed people can I

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<v Speaker 2>Guess yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>This is gonna be the car mm-hmm<affirmative> where they found O J's gloves.

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<v Speaker 1>No right state wrong year.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it James?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>The, the duke

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<v Speaker 1><laugh>.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are, this's

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<v Speaker 2>Not the duke.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the duke.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like Burt Reynolds or somebody<laugh>.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are also legends around the car that James Dean died while he was driving in 1954 after James Dean became interested in motor sports after filming one of my favorite films.

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<v Speaker 1>East of Eden.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>You like

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<v Speaker 2>That movie?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen

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<v Speaker 2>It.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I like

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<v Speaker 1>It.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you read the book?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I had to for class, I think we were filming like, or we were studying adaptations in film school was the book good?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I mean, this is pretty unimportant.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just been on my bucket list forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, just wondering if you're like, oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Such a good it's a, it's like a love.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a romance, which is why I really liked it at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Cuz James Dean also is very good looking.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm into this.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh.

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<v Speaker 1>So James Dean purchased a Porsche 3 56 and a triumph tiger.

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<v Speaker 1>T 11 zero.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a

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<v Speaker 2>Motorcycle.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm pretty sure the triumph is a motorcycle.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why maybe he needed to the next year in 1955, he raced in a professional race in Palm Springs, California.

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<v Speaker 1>And he actually came in first place in the novice class, in second place in the main event.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So his first ever he did great.

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Cuz everyone was just like hanging out their window, trying to get a lo look at him.

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<v Speaker 2><laugh>

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<v Speaker 1>He continued to race with the hopes that one day he would be able to compete in the famous indie 500, the

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<v Speaker 2>Dream of us all

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<v Speaker 1><laugh>.

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<v Speaker 1>But unfortunately his filming schedule that year prevented him from doing so.

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<v Speaker 1>So later

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<v Speaker 2>In 1955 Warner brothers banned him from racing while he was filming giant, which is interesting because that's like a super common thing now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wonder if this all started with James Dean probably.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean

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<v Speaker 1>They were right to do so.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean sure.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same idea of why a lot of actors are not allowed to do their own stunts, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Beyond just the liability.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>But

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the whole project is at risk and the millions of dollar.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean not to minimize people's lives, but that's what these studios are thinking about.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we're

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<v Speaker 2>Not minimizing people's lives.

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<v Speaker 2>You're saying if this actor just because they wanna feel like a tough guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Does their own stunts looking at you, Tom cruise?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I, I, I I'm just gonna paraphrase cause I don't remember his exact quote, but Danny Trayo said something really awesome on the topic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, cuz you know, he's, he's been playing the macho man for decades.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And he doesn't do his own stunts and somebody like, I think in an interview just like called him out on it, just like in a joking way.

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<v Speaker 2>But he got real serious.

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<v Speaker 2>He said that he's not gonna put the jobs of the hundreds of people that are working on this production in jeopardy.

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<v Speaker 2>Just that he can feel like a tough guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally.

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<v Speaker 1>That's such a good

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<v Speaker 2>Stance.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, and you know, the professional stunt men first off hats off to them because holy cow, what they do is so ridiculously difficult they're they like they spend their lives training for this.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are going to it's sometimes as simple as like falling down the stairs.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of training that goes into falling down the stairs.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, I remember the very first time that I was working with a stunt person, uh, on, on a movie and it actually was the, the stunt was uh, like two guys.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an action movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, and two guys are like fighting at the top of a staircase and one guy grabs the other by like the shirt collar and just throws him down the stairs.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yikes.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I'm thinking, wow, can't wait to see like what the H like what Hollywood is gonna do.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what's the secret to like, looking like someone is falling down the stairs right.

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<v Speaker 2>Safely.

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<v Speaker 2>And so like, I just strike up the conversation with the guy he's like, oh, I'm just gonna fall down the stairs,

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<v Speaker 1>But he

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<v Speaker 2>Knows how to fall.

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<v Speaker 2>He knows how fall, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Answers, know how to fall.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, a lot of that is like, you kind of like make like the without look and that's where the acting comes in.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, you basically protect your head, uh, you kind of roll, uh, and you just like, you kind of protect your vital organs, right.

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<v Speaker 2>While looking like it's as painful as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, they wear like the Armadillo pads and which is just like the, the

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<v Speaker 1>Pillar skating pads,

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, sorta the Armadillo pads are like, you know how like an Armadillo has like the plates that shift into each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm<affirmative> they wear that because it's like super thin and it moves

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<v Speaker 1>Like plate armor, plate armor,

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, sorta, um, I don't wanna be conf you're talking like plate armor would be actually the opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>Could that be just a solid like

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<v Speaker 1>Suit of like a suit of armor?

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<v Speaker 2>Like the joints on a suit of armor?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, and like they wear that underneath the clothing and that protect.

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<v Speaker 2>And so like they roll in so that they try to hit the, uh, the pads, uh, while the places that are unex, there are exposed.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously they just try to protect them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting because I think a lot of actors often by the public by audiences are like, oh man, like Tom cruise does his own stunts.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so bad at that's so brave, but you're totally right.

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<v Speaker 1>That not only are you putting yourself at risk, it's not just that you're risking yourself, you're risking the jobs of all of the people that are working on set or on the film at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Post-production producers, all of these people who have invested money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And especially if it's like an indie film or a small film, it doesn't even matter.

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<v Speaker 1>There's, you know, there's so many people who that is their livelihood.

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<v Speaker 1>And that obviously is a really big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was actually working on a zombie film years ago, our main actor through a stunt twisted his ankle.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was like halfway through production.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, we still had a ways to go, what do you do in that situation?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a zombie movie and it requires so much running.

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<v Speaker 2>And so like now we're in a huge pickle.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, this is just, this is just like a little movie, you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have the option to push production to like later dates cuz like all the equipment has been rented and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>So you, you

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<v Speaker 1>Just change the storyline

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<v Speaker 2>Had to change the storyline, which is kind of crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>You're rewriting the movie simply because we didn't have the, well, in that case we didn't have the ability to use stunt people cuz of the budget and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But like that's, what's at stake.

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<v Speaker 2>You can literally put an entire project in jeopardy simply because somebody is doing their own stunts.

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<v Speaker 1>This is real world out there.

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<v Speaker 1>So after their production of giant, right

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<v Speaker 2>Where back back, talking about back to

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<v Speaker 1>James, Jimmy Dean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>After the production of giant, he decides to race again.

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<v Speaker 1>Once the sort of Warner brothers band has been lifted, he trades in one of his cars for a 1955 Porsche five 50 spider.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh we love the spider.

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<v Speaker 1>I think my dad had a spider.

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<v Speaker 1>What then?

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<v Speaker 1>Or he ruined somebody else's spider.

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<v Speaker 1>He drove a spider into a tree at one point.

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<v Speaker 1>These are

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<v Speaker 2>Really expensive

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<v Speaker 1>Cars.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have to get the story from him.

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<v Speaker 2>I, if your father wrecked one of these cars, holy cow,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he wrecked several of them.

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it wasn't a spider.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he had one.

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<v Speaker 1>These

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<v Speaker 2>Like quarter million dollar cars.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it wasn't quarter million.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just Googled the top search result for how much is a Porsche five 50 spider worth.

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<v Speaker 2>According to top speed.

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<v Speaker 2>The car sold for 3.6 million back in uh, 2012.

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<v Speaker 2>However, uh, Jerry Seinfeld's five 50 spider is worth 5.3, 5 million.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely not that<laugh>.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, your,

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<v Speaker 2>Your father wrecked multiple,

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<v Speaker 1>But it was some sort of convertible that he, he ruined several convertibles.

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<v Speaker 1>I will leave.

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<v Speaker 1>One was his own and one was a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get the, we'll get the low down when he listens to this and gives us a call.

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<v Speaker 1>So on September 30th, 1955, James Dean in a small entourage started to drive from LA to Salinas, California towards a race that he had entered.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're kind of, they're checking out toward the race.

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<v Speaker 1>If

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<v Speaker 2>Salina's involved.

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<v Speaker 2>This is bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Salina's California.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>At 3:30 PM.

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<v Speaker 1>Dean was pulled over and given a ticket for speeding as was the car behind him, which was driven by his friend around 5:45 PM.

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<v Speaker 1>A car pulled out in front of Dean who was unable to stop in time.

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<v Speaker 1>He collided with the car in front of him and his car bounced across the road to the other side of the highway.

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<v Speaker 1>His passenger was thrown from the car, but Dean was trapped inside and sustained fatal injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately the graphic end to one of America's beloved up and coming actors turned into an urban legend about the car.

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<v Speaker 1>He was driving.

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<v Speaker 1>He died after his death.

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<v Speaker 1>One of Dean's motor sport slash car friends named George Barris who was going to come into play later.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Sold parts of the car to drivers.

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<v Speaker 1>So George Barris is friends with Dean he's.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like a customizer for Hollywood, like a car customizer.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So he, it comes into possession of the car after Dean's death.

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<v Speaker 1>And he like kind of hands out parts of the car to drivers who are kind of looking for like a piece of this expensive historic car.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So the story goes that a pair of doctors purchased the engine and the drive train respectively.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>After they incorporated these parts into their own cars, they set out to race in Poona California.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately they crashed.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the doctors was killed in the process.

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<v Speaker 1>So whether it was because he caught wind of the curse or he just wanted to be rid of it, George Barris decided to donate the rest of the car that he had.

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<v Speaker 1>So he still had the body in some remaining parts.

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<v Speaker 1>So he donates all of this California highway patrol.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted to use the wreck to demonstrate the dangers of driving irresponsibly, like to minors to the youth.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The car was originally stored in a garage.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately the garage burned down and the car was totally fine, but the garage sort of burned down around it.

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell?

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<v Speaker 1>The Cal California highway patrol took the wreckage on tours to high schools until it fell off of a transport truck in route and caused a fatal accident.

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<v Speaker 1><laugh>

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<v Speaker 2>This

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<v Speaker 1>Car, the car was said to have dislodged itself from the transport trailer three more times.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also said that it somehow fell on a student and crushed their hip.

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<v Speaker 1>But the weirdest part of this story is that the car somehow disappeared in 1960 and its whereabouts are still unknown.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's super suspicious.

00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:40.079
<v Speaker 2>Um, and again, that was sarcasm.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone's

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<v Speaker 1>Grain, salt, grain,

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<v Speaker 2>Salt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone obviously stole this and is in a private collection somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's another story that I wanted to share here with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's December of 2002.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The Surry police, they're just mining their business.

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<v Speaker 1>They're in their little police station.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The phone is ringing all night long and they keep getting real reports of cars being like, oh my God, right in front of me or when I was driving home or whatever, these headlights just swerved off the highway, a car just swerved off the highway.

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<v Speaker 1>They get like multiple reports, like all night.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So they set out to try to obviously like find this wreckage and help the person.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, they go up to the scene and they go up and down the highway where everybody said that the car was can't find anything.

00:28:23.420 --> 00:28:30.250
<v Speaker 1>After a very long time, they do find an, a car that had been in an accident.

00:28:30.269 --> 00:28:32.130
<v Speaker 1>But it was quite a while ago.

00:28:32.789 --> 00:28:37.089
<v Speaker 1>So long ago that the car was now covered with like natural growth.

00:28:37.349 --> 00:28:37.730
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And it turns out that that car had crashed five months earlier and nobody had been aware of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm.

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<v Speaker 1>So many people believe that the lights that people kept seeing that night was the ghost of the car that was trying to be found by police ghost car.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:28:52.440 --> 00:29:20.140
<v Speaker 1>It wanted to kind of have its driver right.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally laid to rest properly.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And then one final example that I have for you in 2002, the jumping car of Cape town.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>What scared crowds in South Africa<laugh> while the car was completely turned off, right?

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<v Speaker 1>No one was inside.

00:29:37.670 --> 00:29:39.009
<v Speaker 1>No keys were in the ignition.

00:29:39.549 --> 00:29:41.410
<v Speaker 1>The car backed up a hill twice.

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<v Speaker 1>The owners also claimed that the parking brake was on during this whole thing.

00:29:46.269 --> 00:29:52.200
<v Speaker 1>And there are some theories about a rusty Cape, which might explain the car starting on its own.

00:29:52.259 --> 00:29:56.440
<v Speaker 1>But certainly does not explain how a car could back up a hill twice.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's main supernatural feet is that it drove backwards up a hill twice two temps.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>This one to doesn't exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me chills.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, it's pretty popular.

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<v Speaker 1><laugh> so those are the, the real life hauntings and rumors of possessed cars that I could find.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are some good ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the, the, the ghost car.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we have a story of a ghost car coming?

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<v Speaker 1>We have, we do have a stories episode to go with this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's what you're asking.

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<v Speaker 2>I, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>There's ghost cars.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you'll have to wait and see one more week.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool.

00:30:39.140 --> 00:30:46.380
<v Speaker 1><laugh> so we did watch quite a few films and read a novel for this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>There, there was a bit of preparation that went into it.

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<v Speaker 1>We are now going to discuss cuz right.

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<v Speaker 1>This actually turned out to be a trope in fiction horror a little bit more often than I thought there's there's more than one or two examples.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna talk about some of the films and books.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that feature evil engines.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's where the whole idea for this episode came from.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, we're talking about the history of horror, right?

00:31:10.789 --> 00:31:11.490
<v Speaker 1>So, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about the history now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time to talk about the horror.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So where do you wanna start?

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<v Speaker 1>I wanna start with the most infamous the car.

00:31:19.589 --> 00:31:21.049
<v Speaker 1>No, I wanna start with Christine.

00:31:21.430 --> 00:31:21.849
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

00:31:21.851 --> 00:31:22.089
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:31:22.549 --> 00:31:31.319
<v Speaker 1>So in 1983, Stephen Kings, Christine was published the book, the main character is a 1958 Plymouth fury.

00:31:31.980 --> 00:31:34.279
<v Speaker 1>It turned out to be possessed by evil entities.

00:31:35.460 --> 00:31:42.759
<v Speaker 1>One thing I'm gonna say I did not quite finish the entire novel because it was okay.

00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:44.839
<v Speaker 1>I listened to an audio book version of it.

00:31:45.509 --> 00:31:48.789
<v Speaker 1>I was, I kind of had low expectations and we watched the film and I loved it.

00:31:48.849 --> 00:31:53.750
<v Speaker 1>So I would recommend maybe this was just me, but I would recommend starting with the film.

00:31:53.950 --> 00:31:55.190
<v Speaker 1>I think the film is really good.

00:31:55.539 --> 00:31:57.349
<v Speaker 1>This movie rocked.

00:31:58.210 --> 00:32:00.829
<v Speaker 1>So I'll let you give a little plot summary in a second, Alan.

00:32:00.900 --> 00:32:01.190
<v Speaker 1>Sure.

00:32:01.369 --> 00:32:15.779
<v Speaker 1>But so the very same year that the book came out, 1983, the film version was made and it was directed by none other than John Carpenter, the film stars, Keith Gordon and John Stockwell though.

00:32:15.780 --> 00:32:19.180
<v Speaker 1>It almost starred Scott BEO, Brook shields and Kevin bacon.

00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:29.009
<v Speaker 1>But BEO and shields were rejected by filmmakers and bacon passed it up to work on Footloose, which I think was the right, right move, debatable.

00:32:29.569 --> 00:32:36.529
<v Speaker 1><laugh> it was produced by Richard Corbis and he had produced a mini series version of Stephen King's famous novel Salem lot.

00:32:37.390 --> 00:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>And once inside sort of like the Stephen Kings circle, the author sent Corbis manuscripts of both Christine and CJO, but Corbis felt drawn to Christine and bought the rights to the film though.

00:32:49.401 --> 00:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Carpenter was Corby's first choice to direct.

00:32:52.059 --> 00:33:03.519
<v Speaker 1>He almost wasn't able to take on the project because he was working on another king adaptation at the time fire starter, which we talked about in our pyromania episode, please reference episode 37.

00:33:03.819 --> 00:33:04.519
<v Speaker 1>Is that what it is?

00:33:04.859 --> 00:33:08.029
<v Speaker 1>It might be<laugh> because of production and delays.

00:33:08.030 --> 00:33:11.029
<v Speaker 1>However, he was able to fit Christine into his schedule.

00:33:11.170 --> 00:33:20.589
<v Speaker 1>So he was working on two king projects at the same time in order to source enough cars for filming carpenter, ran ads across Southern California.

00:33:20.710 --> 00:33:30.700
<v Speaker 1>I think like, like billboards and ads and was able to find 24 cars in different states of disrepair in order to portray the progression of the car throughout the film.

00:33:31.309 --> 00:33:32.099
<v Speaker 1>Total gross.

00:33:32.529 --> 00:33:35.700
<v Speaker 1>Christine brought in over 21 million in the us.

00:33:36.170 --> 00:33:36.460
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:33:37.089 --> 00:33:37.380
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:33:37.381 --> 00:33:38.539
<v Speaker 1>Now I turned the floor to you.

00:33:38.540 --> 00:33:39.460
<v Speaker 1>What was the budget though?

00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:40.259
<v Speaker 1>We don't know.

00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:42.420
<v Speaker 1>$30.

00:33:43.049 --> 00:33:43.339
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:33:43.940 --> 00:33:45.019
<v Speaker 2>What, what a return on investment.

00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:45.819
<v Speaker 2>That's incredible.

00:33:45.820 --> 00:33:46.380
<v Speaker 2>Incredible.

00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:50.099
<v Speaker 2>So I'm actually, I, I can't in good conscience.

00:33:50.101 --> 00:33:51.460
<v Speaker 2>Give a summary of this movie.

00:33:52.019 --> 00:33:52.940
<v Speaker 2>I loved it too much.

00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:53.779
<v Speaker 2>So

00:33:54.299 --> 00:33:55.059
<v Speaker 1>Was that blur your

00:33:55.059 --> 00:33:55.259
<v Speaker 2>Vision?

00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:59.619
<v Speaker 2>No, I, I don't wanna give any spoilers so well then give a teaser.

00:33:59.940 --> 00:34:00.059
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

00:34:00.060 --> 00:34:00.859
<v Speaker 2>I'll give a teaser.

00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:14.969
<v Speaker 2>So you have a like super, you know, nerdy high school kid getting, getting picked on gets the short, gets the short of the stick and just about everything AIE then he and his buddy stumble across this car.

00:34:14.971 --> 00:34:16.969
<v Speaker 2>That's for sale spoilers.

00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:20.210
<v Speaker 2>It's Christine<laugh> it's in complete disrepair.

00:34:21.070 --> 00:34:29.519
<v Speaker 2>And then he sets out to fix it up and in the process of fixing it up, it changes him a little bit.

00:34:29.980 --> 00:34:34.360
<v Speaker 2>But also, you know, the, the car might have a little bit of a mind of its own.

00:34:34.789 --> 00:34:35.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:34:35.130 --> 00:34:35.760
<v Speaker 1>There you go.

00:34:35.780 --> 00:34:37.639
<v Speaker 1>That's certainly a good teaser.

00:34:38.500 --> 00:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>It was very good.

00:34:41.219 --> 00:34:42.280
<v Speaker 1>We both loved it.

00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:42.519
<v Speaker 1>I think.

00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.150
<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, I, and you have Stephen King and John Carpenter.

00:34:45.150 --> 00:34:46.150
<v Speaker 1>That's quite the duo.

00:34:46.409 --> 00:34:46.789
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:48.429
<v Speaker 1>There was a scene too first.

00:34:48.550 --> 00:34:48.989
<v Speaker 1>I okay.

00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:52.190
<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of butt shots in this film.

00:34:52.289 --> 00:34:52.829
<v Speaker 1>You loved it.

00:34:53.019 --> 00:35:03.829
<v Speaker 1>Clothed butts, but I just noticed it, there was, there was quite a few and there was a scene in the film sort of climax where the soundtrack is so similar to Halloween.

00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:05.219
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that was, which

00:35:05.219 --> 00:35:05.940
<v Speaker 2>Was funny, Mr.

00:35:06.219 --> 00:35:06.219
<v Speaker 2>Mr.

00:35:06.221 --> 00:35:09.780
<v Speaker 2>Carpenter, just, you know, playing what he had around<laugh>

00:35:10.050 --> 00:35:10.340
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:35:10.340 --> 00:35:11.980
<v Speaker 1>His one of his early drafts.

00:35:12.530 --> 00:35:12.820
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

00:35:12.820 --> 00:35:14.579
<v Speaker 2>This is gonna be a small spoiler.

00:35:14.730 --> 00:35:15.019
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

00:35:15.329 --> 00:35:15.860
<v Speaker 2>Fair enough.

00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:20.739
<v Speaker 2>So if you wanna see this movie, you really should just go watch it immediately.

00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:30.170
<v Speaker 2>My favorite thing about this was, uh, Atos that we have yet to see in any of the other movies that we watch for this episode.

00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:30.650
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

00:35:31.550 --> 00:35:34.929
<v Speaker 2>And that was the self repairing car.

00:35:35.289 --> 00:35:35.289
<v Speaker 2>Mm.

00:35:35.699 --> 00:35:39.170
<v Speaker 2>Which makes it so God scary.

00:35:39.730 --> 00:35:40.730
<v Speaker 2><laugh> like the, the,

00:35:40.929 --> 00:35:41.849
<v Speaker 1>Because it feels unstoppable.

00:35:41.909 --> 00:35:42.329
<v Speaker 1>It does

00:35:42.809 --> 00:35:47.639
<v Speaker 2>It this scene the first, when like Christine's first kill.

00:35:48.429 --> 00:35:52.360
<v Speaker 2>When the, she chases some kid down, he runs into an alley.

00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:55.239
<v Speaker 2>That's too narrow for the car to fit down.

00:35:55.710 --> 00:35:56.800
<v Speaker 2>It's like, okay, great.

00:35:56.869 --> 00:35:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:02.440
<v Speaker 2>If you there's a car that can kill you just get somewhere that it can't drive.

00:36:02.900 --> 00:36:14.469
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's not, this is not rocket science, but then when Christine just starts barreling down the alley and just like rips herself apart and still kills him, it's like, oh wow, this is scary as.

00:36:15.190 --> 00:36:17.469
<v Speaker 1>I remember when that scene happened, you were like, oh my God.

00:36:18.030 --> 00:36:18.030
<v Speaker 1><laugh>

00:36:18.170 --> 00:36:18.909
<v Speaker 2>It was intense.

00:36:19.550 --> 00:36:21.190
<v Speaker 1>And, and then she just repairs herself.

00:36:21.210 --> 00:36:23.030
<v Speaker 1>So it is, and it's, it's like a holy.

00:36:24.409 --> 00:36:26.219
<v Speaker 1>How could you possibly even stop car?

00:36:26.269 --> 00:36:26.619
<v Speaker 1>Right.

00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:39.300
<v Speaker 2>And it's, I I'm, I'm actually very curious to read the novel cuz I'm, I wonder if it goes more in depth into like the rules and regulations behind like what Christine can

00:36:39.300 --> 00:36:39.780
<v Speaker 1>Do, right.

00:36:39.780 --> 00:36:41.099
<v Speaker 1>Like the cannon of it.

00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:41.900
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

00:36:42.340 --> 00:36:44.460
<v Speaker 2>Uh, because, uh, Steven, King's pretty good about that.

00:36:45.300 --> 00:36:54.380
<v Speaker 2>Um, where, like they make a, he makes a very strict set of rules, uh, that the supernatural has to follow.

00:36:54.380 --> 00:36:57.860
<v Speaker 2>And that's one of the reasons why I love his, uh, the, the myth, ethos that he builds so

00:36:57.860 --> 00:36:57.940
<v Speaker 1>Much.

00:36:58.260 --> 00:37:00.260
<v Speaker 1>I never realized that about him that's interest.

00:37:01.449 --> 00:37:11.929
<v Speaker 2>Uh, because you know, that's also one of the things that like makes a lot of his villains scarier than say Jason Vorhees.

00:37:12.250 --> 00:37:12.489
<v Speaker 2>Right, right.

00:37:12.820 --> 00:37:17.730
<v Speaker 2>Where it depends on, it's like, oh, we're just gonna make up new rules for him.

00:37:17.750 --> 00:37:18.769
<v Speaker 2>Now he's invincible.

00:37:18.829 --> 00:37:19.690
<v Speaker 2>Now he can do this.

00:37:19.750 --> 00:37:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Now he has this super power hour, you know?

00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:29.159
<v Speaker 2>Uh, where, I mean, granted, Stephen, King's usually working in one shot, uh, like one shot movies or books.

00:37:29.269 --> 00:37:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, specifically books,

00:37:30.550 --> 00:37:31.119
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean?

00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:33.400
<v Speaker 1>One like, like not a ongoing series either,

00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:33.639
<v Speaker 2>Right?

00:37:33.641 --> 00:37:34.880
<v Speaker 2>It's a self-contained thing.

00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:37.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, I mean outside of like dark tower, but yeah.

00:37:37.449 --> 00:37:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Right.

00:37:37.940 --> 00:37:39.320
<v Speaker 2>But it has a start in an end.

00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:50.349
<v Speaker 2>Um, and it's not going through multiple different creatives, but just from the abstract, that that's one of the reasons that his villains are so scary because they follow a set of rules.

00:37:50.619 --> 00:37:50.909
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

00:37:51.409 --> 00:37:51.989
<v Speaker 2>And I love that.

00:37:52.300 --> 00:37:52.590
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:37:53.070 --> 00:37:53.429
<v Speaker 1>I'm not, yeah.

00:37:53.500 --> 00:37:55.670
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting that you pointed that out.

00:37:55.750 --> 00:37:58.150
<v Speaker 1>I haven't noticed it, but now I will keep my eyes open for it.

00:37:58.409 --> 00:37:58.789
<v Speaker 2>And yeah.

00:37:58.791 --> 00:38:03.260
<v Speaker 2>I, I, cuz like I would, I, I really wonder like what fuels Christine?

00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:04.460
<v Speaker 2>No, no pun intended.

00:38:04.900 --> 00:38:05.179
<v Speaker 2><laugh> Uhhuh.

00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:10.019
<v Speaker 2>Is it, does she need some kind of symbiotic relationship with the driver?

00:38:10.420 --> 00:38:11.099
<v Speaker 1>I think she does.

00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:11.940
<v Speaker 1>That's my theory.

00:38:11.940 --> 00:38:18.780
<v Speaker 1>Because earlier in the film, when they find her, because she's had a whole history, this she's not like a new car and we sort of see some of her history.

00:38:19.139 --> 00:38:19.139
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:23.730
<v Speaker 1>But she's sitting in this guy's yard and she's told, totally turned off.

00:38:23.731 --> 00:38:29.010
<v Speaker 1>And if she, if she had that power, why wouldn't she just go around and be destruction?

00:38:29.170 --> 00:38:39.650
<v Speaker 1>I feel like either she requires somebody to sort of possess and feed off of, which is kind of what you would expect, expect just based on how she also impacts the main character.

00:38:40.630 --> 00:38:43.880
<v Speaker 1>But she, maybe she also like just enjoys that part.

00:38:43.900 --> 00:38:49.079
<v Speaker 1>But the guy who she was with the beginning, you know, maybe he was immune to it for whatever reason.

00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:50.079
<v Speaker 1>I,

00:38:50.190 --> 00:38:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the thing.

00:38:51.420 --> 00:38:53.239
<v Speaker 2>He never drove Christine.

00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:58.480
<v Speaker 2>The, the form, the, the guy who owned her, uh, it was his brother's car.

00:38:59.030 --> 00:38:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh, you assume he drove her to get her to his house or something.

00:39:02.090 --> 00:39:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Right.

00:39:02.460 --> 00:39:02.679
<v Speaker 1>But

00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:08.949
<v Speaker 2>I think Christine fell into disrepair because she was heartbroken.

00:39:09.750 --> 00:39:21.670
<v Speaker 2>I think she falls in, I, I think like she actually falls in love with her drivers and like in full, full on succubus bleeds,'em dry from a mental, emotional stamina of standpoint.

00:39:21.670 --> 00:39:22.190
<v Speaker 2>Right, right.

00:39:22.420 --> 00:39:27.579
<v Speaker 2>Just drive drives them crazy, but not out of a place of maliciousness, the mili.

00:39:27.659 --> 00:39:32.820
<v Speaker 2>I mean, clearly she's a very malicious entity, but most of that comes from jealousy.

00:39:33.050 --> 00:39:43.099
<v Speaker 2>Most of the victims that she hunts down throughout the story are people that antagonize the driver, sh people that have

00:39:43.349 --> 00:39:45.019
<v Speaker 1>Wrong or people that love the driver

00:39:45.809 --> 00:39:46.420
<v Speaker 2>That too.

00:39:46.690 --> 00:39:46.980
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:39:47.179 --> 00:39:52.019
<v Speaker 2>Any, anyone that basically engages with the driver is becomes a target.

00:39:52.849 --> 00:39:53.139
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:39:53.300 --> 00:39:56.539
<v Speaker 1>I think you just kind of brought a few points to my head.

00:39:57.079 --> 00:40:05.889
<v Speaker 1>The first is that there's a moment in the film where, where a, the main character says he's like describing love as this like very passionate mm-hmm<affirmative> destructive thing.

00:40:06.349 --> 00:40:10.170
<v Speaker 1>And you kind of think he's talking about his girlfriend, but he is talking about Christine.

00:40:10.449 --> 00:40:10.449
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

00:40:11.110 --> 00:40:26.599
<v Speaker 1>And the other thing that we sort of talked about while we were watching the film was that this was one of the first films, I, or only films that really come to my, for me, where I was really invested in Christina as a character and she was not a human or like humanoid, right.

00:40:26.601 --> 00:40:30.840
<v Speaker 1>She was an, an animate object or an animate object, but she was an object.

00:40:31.500 --> 00:40:35.760
<v Speaker 1>And I was first of all, really into her, I was like, she's powerful.

00:40:35.900 --> 00:40:36.960
<v Speaker 1>She has a personality.

00:40:37.489 --> 00:40:42.630
<v Speaker 1>She's like devilish and devious and hardcore and strong.

00:40:42.889 --> 00:40:46.670
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, she's like a strong female lead, even though she's a car.

00:40:46.889 --> 00:40:55.550
<v Speaker 1>And it really was like very surprising to see that or to have that emotional reaction to a car<laugh> without

00:40:55.849 --> 00:40:57.590
<v Speaker 2>Saying a single line of dialogue.

00:40:58.079 --> 00:40:58.429
<v Speaker 2>Right.

00:40:58.909 --> 00:40:59.150
<v Speaker 2>I mean,

00:40:59.960 --> 00:41:02.059
<v Speaker 1>She does flash her lights, she flashes her

00:41:02.219 --> 00:41:02.980
<v Speaker 2>Lights and she has the stereo.

00:41:03.190 --> 00:41:03.539
<v Speaker 2>Right.

00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:06.500
<v Speaker 2>And she plays, so she, she has select songs.

00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:17.980
<v Speaker 2>She plays on the radio, but still through just this limited engagement, she's a more well rounded character than so many people in movies.

00:41:18.489 --> 00:41:18.980
<v Speaker 1>Totally.

00:41:19.539 --> 00:41:24.929
<v Speaker 1>And I actually really like, there's some interesting soundtracks we're gonna talk about today with these movies.

00:41:25.409 --> 00:41:28.289
<v Speaker 1>Mm-hmm<affirmative> I really enjoy the soundtrack in Christine.

00:41:28.909 --> 00:41:31.929
<v Speaker 1>And I think it does like give her a lot of her personality.

00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:36.090
<v Speaker 1>It's all kind of like old school, fifties rock and roll.

00:41:36.150 --> 00:41:40.769
<v Speaker 1>And it definitely lends to the era she's from and you know, and all these things.

00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:42.639
<v Speaker 1>And I just wanna say this too.

00:41:43.150 --> 00:41:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:55.639
<v Speaker 1>I wrote a story or two for the story episode about this mm-hmm<affirmative> and one of them there's a scene in Christine where it actually feels very similar in some ways to the story that I wrote.

00:41:55.641 --> 00:42:10.469
<v Speaker 1>And I just wanna say to the public, now that I wrote the story before I saw the film or read the book, so I not realize the connection to it at the time, but I think when you think about killer cars, it's it you'll see what the story is next week, but there is sort of a natural connection.

00:42:10.530 --> 00:42:11.869
<v Speaker 1>So I just wanna say that

00:42:12.570 --> 00:42:17.989
<v Speaker 2>And as much credit as we're giving Stephen King for making this really great character.

00:42:18.059 --> 00:42:18.349
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:42:18.489 --> 00:42:21.789
<v Speaker 2>We gotta also shout out to John Carpenter for just knocking this one outta the

00:42:21.869 --> 00:42:21.869
<v Speaker 1>Book.

00:42:21.940 --> 00:42:22.380
<v Speaker 1>Totally.

00:42:22.579 --> 00:42:30.500
<v Speaker 1>I mean, again, I was the, the film or the book for me was a little slow in like the characters talk in a very, in a like they're teen boys.

00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:32.780
<v Speaker 1>So they like make fun of people's weight a lot.

00:42:32.809 --> 00:42:35.820
<v Speaker 1>They, they say like gross things about sex a lot.

00:42:35.820 --> 00:42:41.300
<v Speaker 1>They're kind of like in the book, they're a cringe eye roll for me and I get what he's trying to do where I'm like, okay.

00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:43.300
<v Speaker 1>But it, it kind of just goes on and on.

00:42:43.500 --> 00:42:44.980
<v Speaker 1>And I think I was kind of tuning it out.

00:42:45.170 --> 00:42:51.659
<v Speaker 1>Whereas in the movie, I, I do think it works a little better and there's a lot of scenes that made us feel sorry for AIE.

00:42:51.661 --> 00:42:56.929
<v Speaker 1>Whereas in the book it's a lot of a slower burn and I kind of didn't feel that invest did in him.

00:42:57.429 --> 00:42:57.650
<v Speaker 1>I'd

00:42:57.710 --> 00:43:00.489
<v Speaker 2>Say the, what you're talking about yeah.

00:43:00.490 --> 00:43:04.329
<v Speaker 2>Is pretty evident in the film in the beginning.

00:43:05.150 --> 00:43:05.570
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

00:43:05.789 --> 00:43:20.519
<v Speaker 2>And then a lot of that drops away and once you lose this banter among teens, you realize just how affect did AIE is by having this car in his life.

00:43:20.619 --> 00:43:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm<affirmative> um, also I think like that kind of talk was a very, was pretty good for establishing it as a period piece, you know, like ear early eighties.

00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:35.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the early eighties are, but based off Christine clearly, that's it.

00:43:35.869 --> 00:43:36.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:39.630
<v Speaker 1>And again, I'm not like judging Stephen King for that choice.

00:43:39.690 --> 00:43:41.590
<v Speaker 1>And I think it probably landed better.

00:43:41.710 --> 00:43:45.030
<v Speaker 1>I just think it didn't age super well, you know?

00:43:45.190 --> 00:43:45.429
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure.

00:43:45.570 --> 00:43:46.909
<v Speaker 1>It was just like a, okay.

00:43:47.210 --> 00:43:47.590
<v Speaker 1>So yeah.

00:43:47.590 --> 00:43:48.469
<v Speaker 1>Any other Christine

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<v Speaker 2>Thoughts?

00:43:49.139 --> 00:43:54.469
<v Speaker 2>Just everyone who has not seen this film needs to watch this film through doing this podcast?

00:43:56.030 --> 00:44:00.260
<v Speaker 2>Uh, I I've just I've Avi watched a lot of horror movies<laugh> yes.

00:44:00.619 --> 00:44:17.659
<v Speaker 2>Um, and discovered so many things by authors or directors that I was familiar with their other work mm-hmm<affirmative> and just didn't know that they'd made this, like, I had no idea that there was a John Carpenter movie about a killer car.

00:44:17.690 --> 00:44:18.179
<v Speaker 2>Totally.

00:44:18.829 --> 00:44:19.329
<v Speaker 1>And that's

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing.

00:44:19.690 --> 00:44:20.250
<v Speaker 2>It's amazing.

00:44:20.929 --> 00:44:20.929
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:23.849
<v Speaker 2>This might be one of my favorite horror movies.

00:44:24.030 --> 00:44:24.449
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

00:44:25.019 --> 00:44:27.170
<v Speaker 1>We've said that a lot with John Carpenter.

00:44:27.170 --> 00:44:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Like obviously there's the thing and there's Halloween, but which are both our favorite horror films are top horror films for us respectively, but we watched the fog and we were blown in away and we watched Christine and we were like, I think we sh John Carpenter needs an episode at some point.

00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:43.679
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

00:44:43.780 --> 00:44:44.320
<v Speaker 1>That's good.

00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:45.280
<v Speaker 2>That's gonna be an easy one.

00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:54.000
<v Speaker 1><laugh> after that glowing review, I think we gotta adjust our levels for a second so that we can talk.

00:44:54.369 --> 00:44:55.800
<v Speaker 1>We're not talking about these in order, by the way.

00:44:56.280 --> 00:45:00.630
<v Speaker 1><laugh> but so that we can talk about the car from 1970s seven, ah, the

00:45:00.829 --> 00:45:01.429
<v Speaker 2>Superior film

00:45:02.070 --> 00:45:04.230
<v Speaker 1><laugh> sarcastically, he says, oh my it's so bad.

00:45:04.670 --> 00:45:17.590
<v Speaker 1>Directed by Elliot Silverstein in starring another than James Brolin things come full circle for us here because the car from the film was designed by George Barris.

00:45:17.909 --> 00:45:20.739
<v Speaker 1>Remember from the James Dean story, the, who was he again?

00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:28.380
<v Speaker 1>So he was like a Hollywood car customizer who was friends with James Dean and came into possession of his car after he died.

00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:30.860
<v Speaker 1>And was the one who sold it, sold the parts off to people.

00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:31.460
<v Speaker 1>Got it.

00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:45.539
<v Speaker 1>The car in, in the car is a, was a highly customized 1971 Lincoln continental mark three and fun fact, the car cost$84,000 to build in 1977.

00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:45.900
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

00:45:46.610 --> 00:45:53.739
<v Speaker 1>Quoting from Wikipedia, there were four cars built for the film in six weeks, three were used as stunt mules.

00:45:54.650 --> 00:45:55.329
<v Speaker 1>Fourth for closeups.

00:45:55.909 --> 00:46:00.090
<v Speaker 1>The stunt mules were destroyed during productions while the fourth is now in a private collection.

00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:11.170
<v Speaker 1>Also, before we talk about it further, we should say the car was the first film or like, like it predates the book Christine and the film Christine.

00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:11.570
<v Speaker 1>Sure.

00:46:11.590 --> 00:46:17.480
<v Speaker 1>So it's one of the earlier versions or examples that we have of a murderous motor situation.

00:46:17.500 --> 00:46:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Mm-hmm<affirmative> so unfortunately the car was not received.

00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:38.469
<v Speaker 1>Well, it only has a 28% on rotten tomatoes, but it is an important horror film when specifically looking at the possessed or killer car genre again, because it was because it was one of the first, if not the first, the New York times review quote, how's all the ingredients of a parody.

00:46:39.110 --> 00:46:42.110
<v Speaker 1>Although someone has made the mistake of doing it straight and quote.

00:46:42.829 --> 00:46:42.829
<v Speaker 1>Mm.

00:46:43.170 --> 00:46:53.510
<v Speaker 1>And for some reason, despite the bad reception in 20 19 42 years after the original film, a spinoff sequel was released called the car road tour bench.

00:46:54.230 --> 00:46:58.219
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a cool pre it's just a bad movie.

00:46:58.369 --> 00:46:59.139
<v Speaker 2>Tell us the premise.

00:46:59.969 --> 00:47:00.260
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

00:47:00.420 --> 00:47:02.460
<v Speaker 2>I have no problems giving spoils for this one.

00:47:02.900 --> 00:47:05.500
<v Speaker 2><laugh> so small sleepy town.

00:47:06.059 --> 00:47:14.500
<v Speaker 2>And where, what, what state are we in desert country in desert state, one road in run road, into town, one road out, you

00:47:14.500 --> 00:47:16.219
<v Speaker 1>Know, felt like a Western in some ways to me.

00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:16.809
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

00:47:16.811 --> 00:47:17.010
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:47:17.170 --> 00:47:18.170
<v Speaker 2>Everyone's a cowboy out there.

00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:18.489
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:47:18.789 --> 00:47:26.289
<v Speaker 2>And then all of a sudden, a car shows up and starts running people over and people are like, what is who's driving that car?

00:47:26.750 --> 00:47:29.769
<v Speaker 2>And then they realize, no one's driving that car.

00:47:30.449 --> 00:47:36.289
<v Speaker 2><laugh> then there's like one little twist when people like flee to a cemetery and the car can't get in.

00:47:37.219 --> 00:47:39.960
<v Speaker 2>And then somebody figures out, ah, it's the hollowed ground.

00:47:40.099 --> 00:47:41.039
<v Speaker 2>The car is evil.

00:47:41.780 --> 00:47:51.400
<v Speaker 2>And then there's a elaborate plot to try to get the car into like a canyon and then blow it up with dynamite or something.

00:47:52.190 --> 00:47:53.320
<v Speaker 2>It's really convoluted.

00:47:53.349 --> 00:47:53.719
<v Speaker 2>I'll say

00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:55.599
<v Speaker 1>You actually are making it sound right now.

00:47:55.719 --> 00:47:57.829
<v Speaker 1>A lot more interesting than it was it.

00:47:58.469 --> 00:47:59.349
<v Speaker 1>You're the way you're describing it.

00:47:59.369 --> 00:48:00.389
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, I would watch that.

00:48:00.391 --> 00:48:01.909
<v Speaker 1>And then I'm also like, oh, I just watched it.

00:48:01.911 --> 00:48:02.949
<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't that interesting.

00:48:03.019 --> 00:48:03.389
<v Speaker 1>It's just,

00:48:03.389 --> 00:48:05.469
<v Speaker 2>Again, it's the premise is cool.

00:48:05.659 --> 00:48:05.949
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:48:06.210 --> 00:48:07.710
<v Speaker 2>The execution is bad.

00:48:07.929 --> 00:48:08.150
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

00:48:08.409 --> 00:48:10.630
<v Speaker 2>But however, I do have to be fair.

00:48:10.780 --> 00:48:11.070
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

00:48:11.730 --> 00:48:15.389
<v Speaker 2>The first 25% of the movie rocks.

00:48:16.269 --> 00:48:18.699
<v Speaker 2>And, but that has nothing to do with the car.

00:48:19.340 --> 00:48:19.699
<v Speaker 2><laugh> okay.

00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:35.460
<v Speaker 2>So James Brolin and his whole character arc about how, you know, he's split with his wife, uh, he has two daughters and he has like this new girlfriend that he's like trying to sneak in and out of the house to not upset his daughters.

00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:40.219
<v Speaker 2>And then his daughters, you know, accost him and are like, dad, they're pretty young.

00:48:40.250 --> 00:48:40.539
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:48:40.780 --> 00:48:41.780
<v Speaker 2>They're they're, they're old kids five.

00:48:41.780 --> 00:48:42.059
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:44.619
<v Speaker 2>And they're like, you know, why can't she just stay over?

00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:50.300
<v Speaker 2>We know about her and you know, there's just that moment of you realize he was doing this.

00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:55.329
<v Speaker 2>He was actually just trying to protect as kids from the idea of their father dating someone.

00:48:55.650 --> 00:48:55.650
<v Speaker 2>Right.

00:48:55.650 --> 00:48:57.170
<v Speaker 2>Who's not their biological mother.

00:48:57.320 --> 00:48:57.610
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:48:57.750 --> 00:48:58.610
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, okay.

00:48:58.610 --> 00:48:58.809
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:48:58.811 --> 00:49:03.809
<v Speaker 2>This is like, you just, that's a real human situation and the performances were killer.

00:49:04.590 --> 00:49:06.809
<v Speaker 2>And then this car shows up and ruins the movie.

00:49:07.250 --> 00:49:08.329
<v Speaker 1><laugh> yeah.

00:49:08.331 --> 00:49:10.969
<v Speaker 1>So you really like the characters and then it all goes to.

00:49:11.449 --> 00:49:11.449
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

00:49:12.230 --> 00:49:21.480
<v Speaker 2>During, you know, when talking about Christine, I, I said one of the reasons why I loved it so much was the mytho of her, you know, Christine and her powers.

00:49:21.500 --> 00:49:25.360
<v Speaker 2>And you know, of like what that looks like in this.

00:49:26.340 --> 00:49:27.239
<v Speaker 2>It was just stupid.

00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:32.239
<v Speaker 2><laugh> it's this car that can, can do anything.

00:49:32.340 --> 00:49:38.590
<v Speaker 2>And also it can flex bullets for no other reason than it would probably be expensive to keep shooting a car.

00:49:38.650 --> 00:49:42.110
<v Speaker 2>And, you know, Christine had to heal a thousand times.

00:49:42.110 --> 00:49:42.389
<v Speaker 2>Right?

00:49:42.500 --> 00:49:42.789
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

00:49:43.289 --> 00:49:46.949
<v Speaker 2>In this one, the car takes no damage ever doesn't matter what happens.

00:49:47.019 --> 00:49:48.429
<v Speaker 2>They just cut away at the right times.

00:49:49.429 --> 00:49:56.380
<v Speaker 2><laugh> uh, and then the car is fine or they just shoot blankets at the car and say, I, you didn't miss the cars indestructible.

00:49:56.980 --> 00:49:59.739
<v Speaker 2><laugh> it's just like, doesn't land quite as well.

00:49:59.889 --> 00:50:01.139
<v Speaker 2>It's cheap filmmaking tricks.

00:50:01.141 --> 00:50:01.340
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:50:01.340 --> 00:50:01.860
<v Speaker 2>And I like

00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:12.659
<v Speaker 1>The, we didn't really talk about this that much, but we did mention that Christine self heals, and we should just say how impressive that those cinema tricks are.

00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:14.340
<v Speaker 1>It looks so well done.

00:50:14.750 --> 00:50:16.449
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I mean it's a hundred percent.

00:50:17.489 --> 00:50:20.809
<v Speaker 2>I, I mean, I was really looking at it, like with the magnifying glass.

00:50:21.130 --> 00:50:21.130
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:50:21.889 --> 00:50:23.849
<v Speaker 2>Uh, you could tell that they're using a lot of models.

00:50:24.460 --> 00:50:24.809
<v Speaker 2>Still.

00:50:25.050 --> 00:50:25.730
<v Speaker 1>It, to me, it looked

00:50:25.730 --> 00:50:26.090
<v Speaker 2>Totally.

00:50:26.349 --> 00:50:26.690
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

00:50:26.690 --> 00:50:39.960
<v Speaker 2>But no, just like, it's exactly what John Carpenter did for like the thing mm-hmm,<affirmative> where, you know, your, everything is practical effects, uh, and just, you know, small scale, but like lit just the right way.

00:50:40.019 --> 00:50:41.199
<v Speaker 2>So everything sells.

00:50:41.210 --> 00:50:41.559
<v Speaker 2>Right.

00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Uh, and it looks perfect in this.

00:50:45.110 --> 00:50:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Like they didn't, and honestly, none of the effects, uh, look bad because there's no effects.

00:50:53.170 --> 00:50:53.519
<v Speaker 2>Right.

00:50:53.829 --> 00:50:54.679
<v Speaker 2>Nothing happens.

00:50:54.869 --> 00:50:55.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:50:55.161 --> 00:50:56.309
<v Speaker 2>They should blanks at the car.

00:50:57.429 --> 00:51:00.190
<v Speaker 2>Uh, it just like sometimes it Rams into things.

00:51:00.889 --> 00:51:02.949
<v Speaker 2>And then when it pulls back, the car is fine.

00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:03.789
<v Speaker 2>Right.

00:51:03.929 --> 00:51:05.230
<v Speaker 2>That's it, that's all you it's lazy.

00:51:06.110 --> 00:51:09.710
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's not, it's just, you know, it's, it's a budgetary concern it's right.

00:51:09.710 --> 00:51:09.909
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

00:51:10.429 --> 00:51:12.110
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I imagine it would be Ave.

00:51:12.210 --> 00:51:22.420
<v Speaker 2>It would be because again, this movie was the first of its kind mm-hmm<affirmative> was no precedent and to invest all this money and they had a very iconic looking car.

00:51:23.699 --> 00:51:27.300
<v Speaker 2>Um, and that I'll, I'll admit the look of the car was pretty cool.

00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:29.940
<v Speaker 2>It looks, yeah, it does look cool.

00:51:29.989 --> 00:51:30.980
<v Speaker 2>Completely unique.

00:51:31.250 --> 00:51:31.539
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:51:31.769 --> 00:51:35.300
<v Speaker 2>It's not a possessed, as you said, it was a heavily modified Lincoln.

00:51:35.300 --> 00:51:35.940
<v Speaker 2>Continental.

00:51:36.130 --> 00:51:36.420
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:51:37.099 --> 00:51:39.860
<v Speaker 2>Um, but key element is being heavily modified.

00:51:40.369 --> 00:51:40.659
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:51:40.661 --> 00:51:42.019
<v Speaker 1>George Barris did a good job with

00:51:42.019 --> 00:51:42.219
<v Speaker 2>That.

00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:45.619
<v Speaker 2>It just looks like a generic, evil car.

00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:46.980
<v Speaker 1>It does.

00:51:47.300 --> 00:51:47.659
<v Speaker 1>I would.

00:51:48.780 --> 00:51:55.210
<v Speaker 1>I thought it had like a, like visual, not it's clearly a very different car than Christine in many ways.

00:51:55.210 --> 00:52:02.449
<v Speaker 1>Mm-hmm<affirmative> but it has that like menacing, when you have those shots that are straight on the front grill, they both kind of have like the same menacing vibe to them.

00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:02.969
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:52:02.971 --> 00:52:04.409
<v Speaker 1>Like they're similar that way.

00:52:05.090 --> 00:52:05.090
<v Speaker 1>Uh,

00:52:05.289 --> 00:52:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I was at first really respecting this film for a while because most of the, the, the, the horror elements happen during the day mm-hmm<affirmative>.

00:52:14.670 --> 00:52:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:16.400
<v Speaker 1>That's if, yeah, exactly.

00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:18.679
<v Speaker 1>I it's weird to me because of that.

00:52:18.789 --> 00:52:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, not weird, but it's different.

00:52:20.579 --> 00:52:21.239
<v Speaker 2>It is different.

00:52:21.240 --> 00:52:23.079
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I was respecting it, cuz it's like, okay.

00:52:23.539 --> 00:52:27.519
<v Speaker 2>So not to be attempted again until mid-summer<laugh> uh,

00:52:28.219 --> 00:52:30.239
<v Speaker 1>But which you've yet to watch.

00:52:30.590 --> 00:52:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:52:30.900 --> 00:52:31.119
<v Speaker 1>But

00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:44.590
<v Speaker 2>The, then the whole LA the whole grand finale, which is like 20 minutes, they make the weirdest production decision to film it during the day.

00:52:44.650 --> 00:52:45.110
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

00:52:45.369 --> 00:52:51.750
<v Speaker 2>And then just stop the aperture down and make it stupidly underexposed to sell it as night.

00:52:52.139 --> 00:52:55.219
<v Speaker 1>I thought there was something wrong with like the projector we were watching it on.

00:52:55.460 --> 00:52:56.059
<v Speaker 1>No, that's how it

00:52:56.059 --> 00:52:56.260
<v Speaker 2>Looked.

00:52:56.409 --> 00:52:58.980
<v Speaker 2>It's no, cuz the, the, the giveaway is always the clouds.

00:52:59.059 --> 00:53:01.579
<v Speaker 1>I know, but it looked like my projector was starting to fall asleep.

00:53:01.820 --> 00:53:01.820
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:53:02.059 --> 00:53:02.739
<v Speaker 1><laugh> like, that's what it looked

00:53:02.739 --> 00:53:02.900
<v Speaker 2>Like.

00:53:03.079 --> 00:53:04.460
<v Speaker 2>It was so dark.

00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:13.050
<v Speaker 2>You could barely see what's going on and we're look, we're looking at like closeups of people talking to each other with a beautifully lit sky, it behind them.

00:53:13.349 --> 00:53:15.170
<v Speaker 2>And then just like super dark facing like

00:53:15.289 --> 00:53:20.130
<v Speaker 1>Silhouettes almost, almost, but like the features were all kind of groggy

00:53:20.570 --> 00:53:23.690
<v Speaker 2>Sorta of, but the definition was all there cuz they were clearly lit.

00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:25.929
<v Speaker 2>Well it was just underexposed.

00:53:26.159 --> 00:53:26.449
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:53:26.630 --> 00:53:29.090
<v Speaker 2>It was just again that's lazy filmmaking.

00:53:29.090 --> 00:53:29.369
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

00:53:30.010 --> 00:53:31.050
<v Speaker 2>Um, oh no, I'm sorry.

00:53:31.309 --> 00:53:32.090
<v Speaker 2>I'm being unfair.

00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:41.880
<v Speaker 2>It's very, very expensive to film night exterior, especially when you're trying to shoot in a giant expanse like the desert, because then you have to start,

00:53:42.380 --> 00:53:49.280
<v Speaker 1>But hold on, they paid$84,000 to build this custom car, which is a lot of money in 1977.

00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:49.800
<v Speaker 1>So sure.

00:53:49.800 --> 00:54:03.110
<v Speaker 1>While yes, maybe that's where the budget went, but I, what ended up happening was that the, the, these filmmaking parts that suffered a little bit took us out of it too much, you know?

00:54:03.219 --> 00:54:05.750
<v Speaker 1>Like they, they didn't allocate things in the right way.

00:54:06.289 --> 00:54:18.019
<v Speaker 2>So fun fact, just more filmmaking tips and tricks when you are trying to film in a large area of like the desert, right.

00:54:18.300 --> 00:54:26.579
<v Speaker 2>Or just sorry if you're trying to like light up like a large outdoor area, like a, a field or this, you know, patches of the desert, you know?

00:54:26.900 --> 00:54:26.900
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:34.619
<v Speaker 2>Unless you have like a nearby, you know, mountain or hill or something to put like your giant, like 18 K or something.

00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:35.659
<v Speaker 2>That's a light.

00:54:35.809 --> 00:54:36.099
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:54:36.101 --> 00:54:43.179
<v Speaker 2>It's a, it's a daylight balanced light, 18,000 Watts that would just, you know, like you, you can see it direct.

00:54:43.210 --> 00:54:43.500
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:54:43.829 --> 00:54:49.610
<v Speaker 2>Oftentimes they'll use a weather balloon mm-hmm<affirmative> and so you just a silk weather balloon.

00:54:49.610 --> 00:54:49.929
<v Speaker 2>Right.

00:54:50.309 --> 00:54:53.530
<v Speaker 2>And then they have all these powerful units on the ground that hit it.

00:54:54.150 --> 00:55:00.369
<v Speaker 2>And so like picture, hold like a, take like a balloon and hold your like a flashlight up to it.

00:55:00.829 --> 00:55:02.130
<v Speaker 2>You know how it's gonna start glowing.

00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:03.050
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

00:55:03.159 --> 00:55:04.010
<v Speaker 2>Well, it does that.

00:55:04.150 --> 00:55:06.530
<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm<affirmative> uh, and that is now the moon.

00:55:06.889 --> 00:55:09.280
<v Speaker 2>They basically make a giant artificial moan.

00:55:09.829 --> 00:55:10.400
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of cool.

00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:11.920
<v Speaker 2>And it's very cool and it's very expensive.

00:55:12.030 --> 00:55:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:55:12.710 --> 00:55:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll do it for you for cheap.

00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:14.679
<v Speaker 1>Gimme a call.

00:55:14.809 --> 00:55:15.159
<v Speaker 1>Great.

00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:17.880
<v Speaker 1><laugh> so yeah, I don't know.

00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:24.559
<v Speaker 1>The car was again, we'll give it props for having a really cool car for being the first of its kind for having James Brolin.

00:55:24.940 --> 00:55:27.199
<v Speaker 1>But beyond that, I think it,

00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:28.880
<v Speaker 2>And for having some woke kids.

00:55:29.780 --> 00:55:30.070
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

00:55:30.070 --> 00:55:30.469
<v Speaker 2>There you go.

00:55:30.670 --> 00:55:31.989
<v Speaker 2>No dads have to be happy

00:55:32.050 --> 00:55:32.269
<v Speaker 1>Too.

00:55:32.289 --> 00:55:32.869
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

00:55:33.269 --> 00:55:37.949
<v Speaker 1>Everyone deserves happiness, but it, it wasn't something I would recommend to anybody.

00:55:38.019 --> 00:55:38.309
<v Speaker 1>Nope.

00:55:38.949 --> 00:55:40.190
<v Speaker 1><laugh> all right.

00:55:40.409 --> 00:55:45.190
<v Speaker 1>Now we're gonna talk about a film, but I think you and I have very, I don't know.

00:55:45.210 --> 00:55:46.949
<v Speaker 1>I'm interested to see what your opinion is.

00:55:47.099 --> 00:55:47.389
<v Speaker 1>Sure.

00:55:48.210 --> 00:55:52.019
<v Speaker 1>We are going to talk about maximum overdrive.

00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:52.579
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

00:55:52.710 --> 00:55:55.099
<v Speaker 1>Which is a comedy from 1986.

00:55:55.539 --> 00:55:55.860
<v Speaker 1>How dare

00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:56.099
<v Speaker 2>You?

00:55:56.519 --> 00:55:57.860
<v Speaker 2>It has comedic elements.

00:55:58.170 --> 00:55:58.460
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:06.539
<v Speaker 1>It is a film with comedic elements from 1986 that was written and directed by Stephen King.

00:56:07.260 --> 00:56:13.010
<v Speaker 1>I had absolutely no idea that he had ever directed a film and I looked it up and this was the only film that he had ever

00:56:13.050 --> 00:56:14.849
<v Speaker 2>Directed because it went so well.

00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:21.250
<v Speaker 1>It's based on a short story that he wrote called trucks and he wrote it in 1973.

00:56:21.349 --> 00:56:28.010
<v Speaker 1>So that actually trucks, the short story would be the first known, uh, media that we have in this genre.

00:56:28.349 --> 00:56:28.570
<v Speaker 1>He

00:56:28.570 --> 00:56:30.769
<v Speaker 2>Really is a wordsmith when it comes to naming things.

00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, you need to back off people's titles.

00:56:34.309 --> 00:56:34.599
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

00:56:35.070 --> 00:56:35.599
<v Speaker 1>It's enough.

00:56:36.670 --> 00:56:52.670
<v Speaker 1>It's stars, Amelio vez, pat Hele, Laura Harrington, and the entire soundtrack is by AC DC, John paras of the New York times, quote, by making the machines malevolence all encompassing.

00:56:52.889 --> 00:56:54.429
<v Speaker 1>So imoral Mr.

00:56:54.460 --> 00:56:58.070
<v Speaker 1>King loses the Philip of retribution in better horror films.

00:56:58.409 --> 00:57:09.510
<v Speaker 1>For the most part, he has taken a promising notion our dependence on our machines and turned it into one long car crunch, movie wheezing from setups to crack up from variety.

00:57:10.090 --> 00:57:17.539
<v Speaker 1>The kind of film audiences want to talk about the kind that throws credibility out the window in favor of crafts manipulation.

00:57:18.010 --> 00:57:31.539
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately master manipulator, Stephen King, making his directorial debut from his own script fails to create a convincing enough environment to make the find of nonsense he's offering here believable or fun.

00:57:32.539 --> 00:57:36.739
<v Speaker 1>Alan, give us the premise of maximum overdrive, if you will.

00:57:37.210 --> 00:57:37.500
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

00:57:37.501 --> 00:57:38.059
<v Speaker 2>Here we go.

00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:41.539
<v Speaker 2>So we're in like the middle of the cold war, right?

00:57:42.699 --> 00:57:48.929
<v Speaker 2>Uh, we're towards the tail end of the cold war, but you know, there's a lot of anxiety about things in space.

00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:49.929
<v Speaker 1>Sure.

00:57:50.769 --> 00:57:51.010
<v Speaker 2>Spot Nick.

00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:51.570
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:57:52.050 --> 00:58:03.289
<v Speaker 2>Uh, well that was a little earlier, but there's a, uh, a media that's passing past earth and it's like a, a very unknown element is something is suspicious about it.

00:58:04.349 --> 00:58:14.400
<v Speaker 2>And then all of a sudden the radiation from this media technically hijacks every machine on the planet and makes it instantly homicidal,

00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Including machine guns, which I don't know are technically machines.

00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Well,

00:58:19.750 --> 00:58:23.039
<v Speaker 2>Technically, technically a lever is a machine.

00:58:23.510 --> 00:58:24.559
<v Speaker 2>It's a simple machine.

00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:29.469
<v Speaker 2>A pulley is a machine, know a wheel is a machine.

00:58:30.869 --> 00:58:33.110
<v Speaker 2>The, the, you know, this is or so, okay.

00:58:33.239 --> 00:58:35.670
<v Speaker 2>These are literally the definitions of simple machines.

00:58:35.699 --> 00:58:35.989
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

00:58:36.409 --> 00:58:45.469
<v Speaker 2>It seemed that it's anything that runs on electricity or diesel, not gasoline.

00:58:45.699 --> 00:58:46.349
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know.

00:58:46.369 --> 00:58:53.500
<v Speaker 2>No, because there was the lawnmower, this was the confusing bit personal cars, unaffected for the most part trucks.

00:58:54.099 --> 00:58:55.019
<v Speaker 2>Oh, instant

00:58:55.019 --> 00:58:55.300
<v Speaker 1>Death.

00:58:55.389 --> 00:59:00.980
<v Speaker 1>Which on the spectrum of machines, personal cars and trucks are a lot closer than wheels and levers.

00:59:01.820 --> 00:59:02.539
<v Speaker 2>Uh, yeah, absolutely.

00:59:03.239 --> 00:59:04.380
<v Speaker 1>So maybe seating king.

00:59:04.429 --> 00:59:06.460
<v Speaker 1>Isn't always so smart with his ethos.

00:59:07.860 --> 00:59:20.130
<v Speaker 2>Uh, no, I mean, this one was all over the place, but anyways, so everything becomes homicidal instant genocide on the human race and there's just like a handful of survivors.

00:59:20.130 --> 00:59:20.369
<v Speaker 2>Right?

00:59:20.730 --> 00:59:20.730
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

00:59:21.349 --> 00:59:28.409
<v Speaker 2>And they hold out in this gas station that there's like one main truck that for some reason, like an evil green

00:59:28.429 --> 00:59:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Gobble on it.

00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, it literally has the green Golans face.

00:59:31.429 --> 00:59:33.039
<v Speaker 2>It's the green Golan from Spiderman.

00:59:33.380 --> 00:59:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh, right.

00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Uh, and I just, cuz it's not addressed in the film, but I'm like, I know that's the green Golan from Spiderman and I just like, I Googled it and like they went to the trouble of licensing it from Marvel, but then never address it.

00:59:48.980 --> 00:59:53.269
<v Speaker 2>And Stephen King refuses to say why when asked the question,

00:59:53.780 --> 00:59:54.309
<v Speaker 1>It's very

00:59:54.309 --> 00:59:54.550
<v Speaker 2>Funny.

00:59:55.429 --> 00:59:56.469
<v Speaker 2>Uh, but yeah, they did that.

00:59:56.929 --> 01:00:01.309
<v Speaker 2>So, uh, yeah, this truck is like leads the other trucks.

01:00:01.510 --> 01:00:01.909
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

01:00:01.969 --> 01:00:02.909
<v Speaker 2>At first he's the head truck.

01:00:03.150 --> 01:00:04.150
<v Speaker 2>I thought he was the head truck.

01:00:04.460 --> 01:00:08.710
<v Speaker 2>He's definitely the foremost truck for the first part of the film.

01:00:10.050 --> 01:00:13.139
<v Speaker 2>Then all these other trucks show up and he just kind of falls in line with all the rest.

01:00:13.289 --> 01:00:13.579
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:21.699
<v Speaker 2>And then they're just like circling the, the, the gas station and eventually they're the little machine gun truck shows up.

01:00:21.889 --> 01:00:22.179
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:00:22.260 --> 01:00:23.099
<v Speaker 1>I hated that part.

01:00:23.340 --> 01:00:33.579
<v Speaker 2>So, and it has a horn beeps and Morse code and like the little kid who's the boy scout says, oh they, they are commanding us to feed them guess.

01:00:34.530 --> 01:00:34.820
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:36.139
<v Speaker 2>And so then there's the

01:00:36.380 --> 01:00:40.500
<v Speaker 1>He, well, he was the point that he was a boy scout was important cuz that's how he knew Morse code.

01:00:40.510 --> 01:00:40.860
<v Speaker 1>Right.

01:00:41.400 --> 01:00:48.730
<v Speaker 2>But then the whole movie just takes like a hard left and it's not so much of like a horror.

01:00:49.599 --> 01:00:51.570
<v Speaker 2>It's not just like a horror movie anymore.

01:00:52.090 --> 01:00:53.130
<v Speaker 1>I mean, was it ever,

01:00:53.769 --> 01:00:55.409
<v Speaker 2>Uh, before it was like a horror comedy, right?

01:00:55.730 --> 01:00:55.730
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:00:56.449 --> 01:00:56.809
<v Speaker 2>Uh, sure.

01:00:57.070 --> 01:01:03.170
<v Speaker 2>Now it's just like a dystopian survival movie where you live in this society run by these trucks.

01:01:03.769 --> 01:01:03.769
<v Speaker 2><laugh>

01:01:04.110 --> 01:01:07.960
<v Speaker 1>The vibe of movie is so bizarre.

01:01:08.369 --> 01:01:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Especially once you, it was already bizarre, like from the beginning.

01:01:12.059 --> 01:01:19.880
<v Speaker 1>And then when I realized, oh, this was written and directed by Stephen King, it's not the film that you expect Stephen King to have written and directed.

01:01:19.980 --> 01:01:20.199
<v Speaker 1>No.

01:01:20.699 --> 01:01:24.320
<v Speaker 1>And again, with ACDC, I love it.

01:01:24.320 --> 01:01:28.070
<v Speaker 1>Like there's so many parts that cool, but it's, it's just hard to wrap my head around.

01:01:28.070 --> 01:01:29.230
<v Speaker 1>Like I like Stephen King.

01:01:29.389 --> 01:01:33.150
<v Speaker 1>I like AC DC, but the movie itself is hard for me.

01:01:33.630 --> 01:01:33.630
<v Speaker 1>The,

01:01:33.730 --> 01:01:35.230
<v Speaker 2>The movie is very fun.

01:01:36.110 --> 01:01:37.550
<v Speaker 1>It disjointed though, in many ways.

01:01:38.010 --> 01:01:38.550
<v Speaker 1>Is it a

01:01:38.550 --> 01:01:39.070
<v Speaker 2>Great film?

01:01:39.650 --> 01:01:39.869
<v Speaker 1>No.

01:01:40.510 --> 01:01:41.030
<v Speaker 1>Amelia vez.

01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:41.389
<v Speaker 1>Great.

01:01:41.570 --> 01:01:42.269
<v Speaker 2>Is it fun?

01:01:42.889 --> 01:01:48.099
<v Speaker 2>So fun when like the super, a use, uh, gas station owner.

01:01:48.539 --> 01:01:48.539
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:01:48.969 --> 01:01:54.179
<v Speaker 2>Just like comes out, wheeling a rocket launcher and everyone's like, where'd you get the rocket launcher?

01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:58.820
<v Speaker 2>And he is like, mind your own business, you know, then you like that part.

01:01:58.889 --> 01:02:01.539
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did because, but then they, they justify it.

01:02:01.610 --> 01:02:07.170
<v Speaker 2>Then you find out that he's got this massive cash of weapons and that's like his whole side eye business.

01:02:07.789 --> 01:02:22.570
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, whoa, this guy has some layers<laugh> And then, you know, that's that's, you know, that was also appreciated where you have all these gigantic trucks mm-hmm<affirmative> you know, like semi-trailers right.

01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:22.969
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:02:24.070 --> 01:02:26.849
<v Speaker 2>How do you fight a semi-trailer there's only so many things you can do.

01:02:27.699 --> 01:02:30.119
<v Speaker 2>And one of the things is blow it up with a rocket launcher.

01:02:30.150 --> 01:02:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Take

01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Out the tires.

01:02:32.119 --> 01:02:33.760
<v Speaker 1>We, you just need a thing of spikes.

01:02:33.760 --> 01:02:34.800
<v Speaker 1>You can roll across the road.

01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:35.079
<v Speaker 1>I

01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Know 18 of those.

01:02:37.190 --> 01:02:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

01:02:37.481 --> 01:02:39.079
<v Speaker 1>Listen, what I believe?

01:02:39.139 --> 01:02:40.719
<v Speaker 1>Can I just say what I believe?

01:02:40.869 --> 01:02:41.159
<v Speaker 1>Sure.

01:02:41.579 --> 01:02:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Should it be the law?

01:02:42.750 --> 01:02:43.960
<v Speaker 1>This is gonna make me sound crazy.

01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:46.559
<v Speaker 1>My one of my biggest pet peeves, okay.

01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:49.110
<v Speaker 1>Is people who honk when they don't need to.

01:02:49.110 --> 01:02:53.070
<v Speaker 1>And people who roll through red lights or stop signs.

01:02:53.369 --> 01:02:58.869
<v Speaker 1>And I believe that the second year car does that they should roll out spikes across the road.

01:02:58.871 --> 01:03:00.590
<v Speaker 1>Automatically take'em out.

01:03:00.590 --> 01:03:01.949
<v Speaker 1>You don't deserve a car anymore.

01:03:01.951 --> 01:03:02.710
<v Speaker 1>Don't deserve tires.

01:03:03.780 --> 01:03:07.309
<v Speaker 1>Honk your horn spikes, run a red light spikes.

01:03:07.340 --> 01:03:07.789
<v Speaker 1>Wake up.

01:03:08.179 --> 01:03:10.019
<v Speaker 1>Well you're behind the you're in a vehicle.

01:03:10.469 --> 01:03:11.460
<v Speaker 1>Lives are at stake.

01:03:14.019 --> 01:03:15.739
<v Speaker 2>I think what you really want is rooftop.

01:03:15.769 --> 01:03:16.260
<v Speaker 2>Snipers.

01:03:16.519 --> 01:03:17.940
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't wanna kill anybody.

01:03:18.179 --> 01:03:19.980
<v Speaker 1>I just wanna demobilize them

01:03:20.610 --> 01:03:22.340
<v Speaker 2>With a swift bullet through the neck.

01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:23.380
<v Speaker 2>No, I, I don't

01:03:23.579 --> 01:03:25.300
<v Speaker 1>Want no, of course not.

01:03:25.719 --> 01:03:26.179
<v Speaker 1>My God.

01:03:27.090 --> 01:03:27.380
<v Speaker 1>It's

01:03:27.380 --> 01:03:27.940
<v Speaker 2>A very fun.

01:03:28.010 --> 01:03:29.099
<v Speaker 2>It's a very fun movie.

01:03:29.579 --> 01:03:30.659
<v Speaker 2>Uh, you, it's got a lot of energy.

01:03:30.730 --> 01:03:34.019
<v Speaker 2>It's got a lot of energy and it gives it to you in very cool

01:03:34.050 --> 01:03:34.340
<v Speaker 1>Ways.

01:03:34.610 --> 01:03:34.900
<v Speaker 1>Sure.

01:03:35.329 --> 01:03:36.820
<v Speaker 1>It's another desert film.

01:03:37.559 --> 01:03:37.940
<v Speaker 1>It is.

01:03:38.619 --> 01:03:41.659
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's trucking in the, in the middle of the us.

01:03:41.769 --> 01:03:42.059
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:03:42.061 --> 01:03:43.489
<v Speaker 2>I think this is California though.

01:03:43.510 --> 01:03:43.730
<v Speaker 2>Oh,

01:03:43.730 --> 01:03:43.969
<v Speaker 1>Sure.

01:03:43.971 --> 01:03:46.329
<v Speaker 1>But it's still, it's like a Des trucker area.

01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:47.090
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:51.130
<v Speaker 1>Like, um, the Hills have eyes vibe a little more populated, but

01:03:52.409 --> 01:03:52.530
<v Speaker 2>Slightly.

01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:53.289
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:54.849
<v Speaker 2>Overall this movie was a lot of fun.

01:03:54.851 --> 01:04:02.730
<v Speaker 2>And like you, like in similar to Christine, the, uh, the soundtrack brought a lot of very specific energy to the film.

01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:03.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:04:03.380 --> 01:04:04.000
<v Speaker 2>And that was great.

01:04:04.260 --> 01:04:09.559
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's a movie about everything that has a radio built in should have a lot of fun

01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Music.

01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Totally.

01:04:10.001 --> 01:04:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely.

01:04:11.110 --> 01:04:14.719
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely a set up for great soundtrack.

01:04:14.721 --> 01:04:24.230
<v Speaker 1>Mm-hmm<affirmative> from 2010, an English language, but French production, film, rubber directed by Quentin Dupo.

01:04:24.650 --> 01:04:30.110
<v Speaker 1>It tells a story of attire that comes to life and kills people with telekinetic powers.

01:04:30.570 --> 01:04:35.150
<v Speaker 1>It was originally screened at con in 2010 and met with positive reviews.

01:04:36.269 --> 01:04:37.670
<v Speaker 1>I rolled my eyes.

01:04:39.090 --> 01:04:39.309
<v Speaker 2>You

01:04:39.329 --> 01:04:40.389
<v Speaker 1>Rolled your eyes.

01:04:40.391 --> 01:04:42.110
<v Speaker 1>That was my review there.

01:04:42.130 --> 01:04:42.590
<v Speaker 1>It was cool.

01:04:42.590 --> 01:04:43.670
<v Speaker 1>It was like, okay, sure.

01:04:43.670 --> 01:04:44.699
<v Speaker 1>I get it is cool.

01:04:44.701 --> 01:04:45.300
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting.

01:04:45.969 --> 01:04:53.820
<v Speaker 1>It's it's very much like to me a director, that's trying to be like an Aronofsky or a Cohen brothers.

01:04:53.849 --> 01:04:55.420
<v Speaker 1>It's like a Phil.

01:04:55.420 --> 01:04:57.340
<v Speaker 1>It's what I call like a film school movie.

01:04:57.719 --> 01:05:02.340
<v Speaker 1>Not meaning a movie that you watch in film school, meaning a movie that you make in film school.

01:05:02.500 --> 01:05:14.170
<v Speaker 1>If you have a lot of money, when you're going through your like trippy phase of questioning everything through the art of film and challenging formats of films like that was, it felt like a little like, okay.

01:05:14.869 --> 01:05:16.489
<v Speaker 1>To me, that's how I felt about it.

01:05:16.610 --> 01:05:19.289
<v Speaker 1>I, but I enjoy the premise.

01:05:19.949 --> 01:05:21.650
<v Speaker 1>The telekinetic tire is cool.

01:05:22.690 --> 01:05:31.039
<v Speaker 1>Um, you know, but there was just like the whole thing at the, the police officer talking directly to the camera for so long, you know, it's like, it had its moments for me.

01:05:31.659 --> 01:05:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Why don't you, why don't you give us the synopsis of this film please?

01:05:35.019 --> 01:05:43.119
<v Speaker 1>So the synopsis of this film is that<laugh>, there's a bunch of people that get brought out to the desert, another desert film.

01:05:43.780 --> 01:05:49.070
<v Speaker 1>And I think all of these except for Christine is, has been a desert film so far.

01:05:50.210 --> 01:05:58.989
<v Speaker 1>And they're given binoculars by police officers and they leave and then there's a car that's brought in and it goes through like all of these chairs.

01:05:58.990 --> 01:06:08.579
<v Speaker 1>It's again, very artsy, very, you know, uh, Salvador, Dolly, if you will, the car comes in, you're shaking your head at me.

01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:10.300
<v Speaker 2>No, I just don't remember anything about this movie.

01:06:10.480 --> 01:06:17.179
<v Speaker 1>Oh, the car comes in and it gets blown up in front of all these people who are watching from a distance.

01:06:17.469 --> 01:06:17.820
<v Speaker 1>Right.

01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:22.059
<v Speaker 1>So then all of the pieces of the car go flying and they're kind of like buried under the sand.

01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:31.539
<v Speaker 1>And we start to watch as a tire starts to shake and move and it kind of comes to life on its own.

01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:35.380
<v Speaker 1>And then the tire rolls around the desert and all these people are watching through their binoculars.

01:06:35.380 --> 01:06:43.170
<v Speaker 1>And they're obviously there for a reason and they're like, they they're making a film of this event and they're kind of spectating.

01:06:43.949 --> 01:06:50.369
<v Speaker 1>And the tire moves through and very quickly discovers that it has telekinetic powers or we see that it does.

01:06:50.869 --> 01:06:56.730
<v Speaker 1>And it, you know, at first it kind of like snaps a bottle and then it snaps, it kills, it blows up a rabbit.

01:06:56.869 --> 01:06:58.690
<v Speaker 1>And then of course it goes on to start killing people.

01:06:59.389 --> 01:07:05.599
<v Speaker 1>And I don't wanna of give away, you know, the whole plot of the film, but that's kind of the setup for it.

01:07:06.179 --> 01:07:06.719
<v Speaker 1>You didn't think

01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:07.719
<v Speaker 2>This was a cool movie.

01:07:08.420 --> 01:07:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it's not cool at all.

01:07:10.179 --> 01:07:23.150
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying there are some parts of it that took me out of it because it felt so film school, it felt so like someone trying to do something that they thought was so different and you know, it's like, okay, sure.

01:07:23.250 --> 01:07:24.030
<v Speaker 1>And I think they

01:07:24.030 --> 01:07:24.230
<v Speaker 2>Did.

01:07:24.750 --> 01:07:26.590
<v Speaker 2>I think they accomplished exactly that.

01:07:26.659 --> 01:07:28.190
<v Speaker 2>It's a super unique movie.

01:07:28.630 --> 01:07:32.190
<v Speaker 2>I too Washington film school<laugh> yeah.

01:07:32.590 --> 01:07:37.690
<v Speaker 2>It, it, in the genre of, or right.

01:07:38.789 --> 01:07:51.760
<v Speaker 2>We constantly encounter tropes or things that have been done before and along comes a movie that is unlike anything else, try to name a single movie like rubber

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<v Speaker 1>The car, Christine<laugh> maximum overdrive.

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<v Speaker 2>No, those are about full cars.

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<v Speaker 2>This

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<v Speaker 1>Is just, no, listen, I hear, I'm not trying to, I, I would say watch the film.

01:08:03.849 --> 01:08:06.190
<v Speaker 1>If you're into horror at all, you should totally watch the film.

01:08:06.190 --> 01:08:10.349
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying that it's a bad film or that I didn't think it was successful in a lot of ways.

01:08:10.929 --> 01:08:21.670
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying for me, there are certain elements of it that felt like forced, forced, that felt like we're trying to make this film into a poem.

01:08:22.020 --> 01:08:22.670
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you that.

01:08:23.039 --> 01:08:24.260
<v Speaker 1>And it was like, okay, sure.

01:08:24.460 --> 01:08:32.140
<v Speaker 1>Like, and again, I think that works for a lot of people and you can have really successful films that have that sort of take on life.

01:08:32.479 --> 01:08:33.779
<v Speaker 1>The big Lebowski, for example.

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

01:08:34.609 --> 01:08:34.899
<v Speaker 1>Sure.

01:08:35.939 --> 01:08:41.300
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that rubber was quite there, but I would definitely recommend it to people to watch if you haven't a hundred percent.

01:08:41.779 --> 01:08:52.170
<v Speaker 2>I think that rubber on like the spectrum was a lot closer, not to like big labunski, but closer to like thanks.

01:08:52.569 --> 01:08:52.569
<v Speaker 2>Killing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:08:54.880 --> 01:08:55.609
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly.

01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:58.529
<v Speaker 2>Another fantastic film.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I hate, I actually hate thanks, killing.

01:09:01.489 --> 01:09:02.090
<v Speaker 1>I hate it.

01:09:02.649 --> 01:09:07.319
<v Speaker 1>I do not think it is not just a bad, like be horror film that you laugh at.

01:09:07.380 --> 01:09:07.760
<v Speaker 1>It is.

01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:09.359
<v Speaker 1>I hate it.

01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:11.680
<v Speaker 1>I hate the things the Turkey says.

01:09:11.880 --> 01:09:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I hate the Turkey.

01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:14.760
<v Speaker 1><laugh> I don't wanna talk about Thanksgiving.

01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:15.000
<v Speaker 1>He

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<v Speaker 2>Is quite the foul mouth<laugh>

01:09:17.899 --> 01:09:19.899
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it was very funny rubber.

01:09:20.260 --> 01:09:22.420
<v Speaker 1>I think again, you're right.

01:09:22.421 --> 01:09:26.300
<v Speaker 1>It is a refreshing take on the trope, but you know, it had

01:09:26.319 --> 01:09:26.659
<v Speaker 2>Its moments.

01:09:26.979 --> 01:09:30.979
<v Speaker 2>I like the idea, cuz we're looking it through the lens of evil engines.

01:09:30.980 --> 01:09:37.420
<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm<affirmative> where even the smallest part of an evil car can survive and kill.

01:09:37.770 --> 01:09:38.060
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:09:38.180 --> 01:09:38.689
<v Speaker 2>I, I think

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<v Speaker 1>That's so cool.

01:09:39.189 --> 01:09:39.529
<v Speaker 1>It is.

01:09:39.530 --> 01:09:47.810
<v Speaker 1>It's like, it's like if Christine or the car or any of these other cars were blown up, like what happens to the, the tire or the engine?

01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:52.329
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of almost a call back to the rumors about the James Dean car, right?

01:09:52.331 --> 01:09:58.770
<v Speaker 1>That even the engine or the drive train being put in different cars are causing accidents that the whole car is curse.

01:09:59.060 --> 01:10:00.880
<v Speaker 1>And it is, it is interesting, right?

01:10:00.881 --> 01:10:09.199
<v Speaker 1>Because a car like is almost totally unique in, uh, as a villain because you can take it apart.

01:10:10.380 --> 01:10:16.159
<v Speaker 1>And so it has elements that can be taken apart and become even more constructive, destructive.

01:10:16.920 --> 01:10:17.920
<v Speaker 2>They, something interesting.

01:10:18.149 --> 01:10:24.789
<v Speaker 2>They address something very about that in maximum overdrive where the waitress who's just like drunk out of her mind.

01:10:24.791 --> 01:10:45.100
<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm<affirmative> uh, just, you know, she's, she's cracked, she's cracked she's, you know, she walks right out to the trucks and just starts screaming at him that, you know, we, we made yo and then this was right after the machine, middle machine gun car shows up<laugh> uh, and just shoots her.

01:10:45.100 --> 01:10:45.340
<v Speaker 2>Right.

01:10:45.579 --> 01:10:45.579
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:10:46.659 --> 01:10:59.979
<v Speaker 2>Um, but the dichotomy is that, uh, you have what is supposed to be, uh, tools that humanity makes controls and now you've completely lost that control.

01:11:01.189 --> 01:11:07.010
<v Speaker 2>And it's now turned into this malicious force and from that abstract that's good horror.

01:11:07.189 --> 01:11:12.729
<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm<affirmative> and what's also something that Christine didn't really dabble into much of.

01:11:12.730 --> 01:11:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Like, this should be something you control, but it isn't, whereas in like maximum overdrive, uh, or the car or rubber and whatnot, I guess it's because the things have no personality.

01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:24.479
<v Speaker 2>Really sure.

01:11:24.479 --> 01:11:25.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely.

01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Um, I guess that's what it boils down to.

01:11:27.260 --> 01:11:31.079
<v Speaker 2>You're not really too concerned about like Christine being a car.

01:11:31.369 --> 01:11:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Right.

01:11:32.159 --> 01:11:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Cause like she has so much to offer,

01:11:34.199 --> 01:11:34.199
<v Speaker 1>Right?

01:11:34.270 --> 01:11:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

01:11:34.619 --> 01:11:35.239
<v Speaker 1>She kind of, yeah.

01:11:35.240 --> 01:11:36.159
<v Speaker 1>She stands on her own.

01:11:37.350 --> 01:11:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

01:11:37.640 --> 01:11:45.470
<v Speaker 1>So there's one final thing I wanna talk about what's that, and that is season three, episode one, a future drama,

01:11:46.270 --> 01:11:46.949
<v Speaker 2>Ah, the honking

01:11:47.289 --> 01:12:08.380
<v Speaker 1>An episode called the honking and actually, so in some places I saw it listed a season two episode 18, but we watched it on Hulu season three episode one, shout out to my friend, Anthony for this suggestion, which he was very adamant that we watched and included in this episode, the title is a reference to a film from 1981 called the howling.

01:12:09.039 --> 01:12:13.100
<v Speaker 1>And the plot is a nod to the 1977, film the car.

01:12:13.449 --> 01:12:14.819
<v Speaker 1>Tell us your thoughts on the honking.

01:12:15.659 --> 01:12:28.460
<v Speaker 2>What it's a classic future Ramma episode where bender inherits a castle after his, uh, his uncle, uncle, uncle robot dies.

01:12:28.819 --> 01:12:28.819
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:12:29.229 --> 01:12:34.260
<v Speaker 2>While he's at the castle, uh, he gets run over by a wear car.

01:12:35.119 --> 01:12:41.090
<v Speaker 2>And so obviously he becomes a wear car mm-hmm<affirmative>, which leads to all sorts of MIS adventures.

01:12:41.670 --> 01:12:51.689
<v Speaker 2>And you know, just at night he would turn into a car<laugh> and run people over and they add the interesting myth ethos.

01:12:52.289 --> 01:13:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Uh, and because again, they're pulling this right from the howling of, you know, where you have to, the only way to break the curse is to kill the WOL that you, but you have to keep tracking it down.

01:13:04.159 --> 01:13:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm<affirmative>, you know, cause like in, in future<inaudible> they, they, they track down the guy that ran bender over and he is like, oh yeah, but I'm not the original.

01:13:12.739 --> 01:13:14.399
<v Speaker 2>And then they go to the next one.

01:13:14.619 --> 01:13:17.199
<v Speaker 2>And then the next one, you just keep meeting all these different wear cars.

01:13:18.670 --> 01:13:20.829
<v Speaker 2>Uh, and it, I mean, obviously future am is fantastic.

01:13:20.939 --> 01:13:25.829
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of fun, but like this, we almost shouldn't include it, but we, we did anyways.

01:13:26.229 --> 01:13:26.229
<v Speaker 2>Why?

01:13:26.550 --> 01:13:32.350
<v Speaker 2>Because, because I wanted to draw the firm line in no murderous AI.

01:13:33.300 --> 01:13:33.590
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

01:13:33.850 --> 01:13:35.869
<v Speaker 2>And bender is already a robot.

01:13:36.060 --> 01:13:36.350
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:13:36.529 --> 01:13:38.140
<v Speaker 2>But he turns into, but

01:13:38.140 --> 01:13:39.140
<v Speaker 1>He's murderous when he is a

01:13:39.140 --> 01:13:39.260
<v Speaker 2>Car.

01:13:39.359 --> 01:13:42.979
<v Speaker 2>He is, he's very murderous when he is a car he's only slightly murderous when he is a robot.

01:13:43.260 --> 01:13:43.260
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

01:13:44.140 --> 01:13:45.420
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was super fun.

01:13:45.619 --> 01:13:50.739
<v Speaker 1>I actually haven't seen too much of future drama and it was enough to make me be like, maybe I should watch through this show.

01:13:50.920 --> 01:13:52.300
<v Speaker 2>The entire series is fantastic.

01:13:52.449 --> 01:13:52.739
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

01:13:52.740 --> 01:13:53.739
<v Speaker 1>Currently on streaming.

01:13:53.840 --> 01:13:56.699
<v Speaker 1>So definitely check it out and okay.

01:13:56.979 --> 01:14:00.850
<v Speaker 1>I wanna, what'd you think of the ending I fell asleep, you know that I did.

01:14:01.210 --> 01:14:08.409
<v Speaker 1><laugh> I want to conclude this episode, Alan mm-hmm<affirmative> with you telling me out of the film.

01:14:08.689 --> 01:14:12.810
<v Speaker 1>So we watched for this episode, which was your favorite, do you really have to ask?

01:14:12.960 --> 01:14:14.369
<v Speaker 1>Well, rank them in order for me,

01:14:15.130 --> 01:14:15.689
<v Speaker 2>Uh, leagues

01:14:15.710 --> 01:14:17.449
<v Speaker 1>In bounds, starting with least FA

01:14:17.569 --> 01:14:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Starting with least for it.

01:14:19.619 --> 01:14:20.039
<v Speaker 2>The car.

01:14:20.479 --> 01:14:20.479
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

01:14:21.020 --> 01:14:21.239
<v Speaker 2>you.

01:14:22.020 --> 01:14:23.279
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I, I don't know.

01:14:23.479 --> 01:14:31.800
<v Speaker 2>I really liked maximum overdrive mm-hmm<affirmative> so I think I'm gonna go well I'm I mean, I'm not putting the future Ram episode in there.

01:14:31.819 --> 01:14:33.159
<v Speaker 2>No, that just cause it's its own thing.

01:14:34.119 --> 01:14:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Uh, it goes the car then rubber then maximum overdrive.

01:14:38.539 --> 01:14:44.229
<v Speaker 2>And then you take the elevator all the way up to the top Uhhuh and then you get to see Christine,

01:14:44.829 --> 01:14:48.750
<v Speaker 1>My list is different starting at the bottom, the car, obviously.

01:14:49.109 --> 01:14:49.109
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

01:14:49.699 --> 01:14:51.470
<v Speaker 1>Then maximum over drive.

01:14:51.579 --> 01:14:51.869
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

01:14:52.390 --> 01:14:53.189
<v Speaker 1>Robert and Christine.

01:14:53.220 --> 01:14:53.510
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

01:14:53.511 --> 01:14:55.670
<v Speaker 2>So you swap the two that I was like, well they're pretty close.

01:14:56.060 --> 01:14:56.350
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

01:14:56.350 --> 01:14:56.789
<v Speaker 1>I swapped them.

01:14:57.069 --> 01:14:57.069
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

01:14:57.350 --> 01:14:58.109
<v Speaker 1>I have my own woman.

01:14:58.770 --> 01:15:00.979
<v Speaker 1>So that those are of the watch list.

01:15:01.060 --> 01:15:04.380
<v Speaker 1>I would say the top three for us are the ones we would recommend that you watch.

01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:07.260
<v Speaker 2>No, just watch, just watch Christine, if you are.

01:15:07.261 --> 01:15:07.539
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

01:15:07.539 --> 01:15:09.739
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, if you wanna dive into it, dive into it.

01:15:09.810 --> 01:15:10.100
<v Speaker 1>Sure.

01:15:10.720 --> 01:15:11.460
<v Speaker 1>You know, welcome.

01:15:11.859 --> 01:15:12.300
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah.

01:15:12.359 --> 01:15:13.460
<v Speaker 2>Max, OverDrive's pretty fun.

01:15:13.569 --> 01:15:13.859
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

01:15:14.310 --> 01:15:21.260
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be back next week again with a Lunix library episode with killer car stories, which we're super excited about

01:15:22.119 --> 01:15:22.939
<v Speaker 3>And yeah.

01:15:22.940 --> 01:15:26.699
<v Speaker 3>Thanks so much for listening and we'll see you next week until then drive safe.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye.