Hour 2 – Larry Bird Debate, Roger Bennett

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Speaker 2: It's our two on this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan AT's Dan Patrick Show. More of your phone calls coming up. Interesting question about blue bloods in college basketball. Stat of the Day has always brought you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program.

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Speaker 3: Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock.

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Speaker 2: If you would like to watch all of this unfold, you can with Peacock, the NBC Sports Network, and of course our radio affiliates, iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio. Roger Bennett men In Blazers, one of our favorite guests. He has a book out, new book out that'll be a number one New York Times bestseller. It has to do with the World Cup and Reggie Miller NBA on NBC. He'll join us coming up as well. Each seven to seven to three DP Show Operator Tyler is going to take your phone calls coming up. Email address dpat Danpatrick dot Com, Twitter handle at DP show Seaton Poll question results from our one and then we'll look at olvert two. Yeah, we got up there. Who would you rather watch a game with?

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Speaker 4: You could watch football with Ross Tucker, Soccer with Roger Bennett or basketball with Reggie Miller. Ross Tucker's got fifty three percent of that vote, followed by Reggie Miller a respectable thirty three. Okay for sure, Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And then PAULI sent this one, and who would you follow? Who would you follow in a fire?

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Speaker 3: Follow? Follow in a fire?

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Speaker 4: As in the place is on fire, and the five of us go in one different in different directions. Who are you following, Dan, Paul Seaton, Todd, Marvin Well, not Todd Well, he's an option, Yes, not Todd.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think Todd instinctively is going towards these safest places fastest humanly possible.

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Speaker 2: He would go to the safest place. It would take him longer to get to the safest place. Therefore it might not be the safest place by the time he got it.

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Speaker 5: I could bring it to your attention and points to where I'm trying to get to, and you guys can just speed ahead to that.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of like the uh, you don't have to outrun a bear, you just have to outrun the person you're with the strategy.

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Speaker 3: Yes, got it, Yes, got it.

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Speaker 2: Because yesterday Todd was quick to leave the building. He left faster than Elvis left the building. Once the fire was raging out of control and the big German put it out, I.

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Speaker 6: Know my limitations. I wasn't gonna be able to figure out what's going on how to put it out, so I might as well just save myself.

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Speaker 2: No, and I respected that you weren't going to help, and you made sure you got out the door.

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Speaker 3: I think I did say, guys, run fire.

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Speaker 6: I might have done that. I don't know if that's helpful.

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Speaker 2: While you were running, yes, so we didn't hear your voice was trailing off from.

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Speaker 6: The parking lot the door.

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Speaker 5: I think he said run.

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Speaker 2: But you know, we've survived an earthquake here a couple of like six years ago. We survived the fire. It'll be known as the fire of twenty twenty six. But we were good. But thanks once again to the big German, who is a certified firefighter, and he was ready with his equipment. And you know, if we had to break down the door, he had an axe to do that. Others have acts to grind. He has an axe that he would use just to free me from this side the potential disaster. All right, So Roger Bennett will join us coming up, we have our poll question for hour or two. We had a caller at the end of last hour talking about Duke is not a blue blood basketball program because you have to have I'm going to paraphrase here at least two coaches at your university winning a national championship, because Duke hasn't had that yet, because coach k was there for forty years and John Shire has come close, but he has not won a national championship. But if you're going to sit here and tell me UCLA is a blue blood only because Jim Herrick won a title, and to couple that with John Wooden, I'm not buying that Joe B.

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Speaker 3: Hall won a national title.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Ate off Rup at Kentucky, I don't know how many pro because there might be a couple of sneaky programs that won titles, but you wouldn't think that they were blue bloods.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Pauline, I've got a few definitions here looking this up. Some are obvious elite, historically dominant D one programs with multiple national titles, regular Final four appearances over generations. Kentucky, North Carolina, Duke. They started kind of in the late seventies being good, but they've been good for forty five years.

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Speaker 2: Great basically, Yeah, they weren't good when coach k got there. UCLA wasn't great when coach Woodn't got there.

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Speaker 7: They look at UCLA as a blue blood who isn't as good as they used to be, but they are considered a blue blood. Kansas Jayhawks, of course, the Indiana Hoosiers the past twenty years not great, but they had a long run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they only won with Bob Knight, right, So that doesn't make him a blue blood if you don't have another coach who won a national title.

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Speaker 3: According to one of our listeners.

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Speaker 7: I like to call Yukon a new blood because Yukon since nineteen ninety nine is the most successful college bast ball program men's and women's.

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Speaker 2: But men's yeah, but the women's is not a blue blood because you've only had Geno there. According to this definition, which I don't buy into it, Yukon men's and women's blue bloods.

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Speaker 7: Should it be years, not amount of coaches.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want prolonged dominance, consistency, high level basketball, or you know, it could be football as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But I see the point though, that you can have you could be consistently great for forty years. But if it's only with one guy, then it's really the guy that's great and not the program.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're giving UCLA credit for, you know, Jim Herrick winning a title that that made him a blue blood because they won a title and John wouldn't won all of his titles.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I know, maybe it shouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so what we're saying, UCLA not a blue blood.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, they're blueish, like a light blueish blue blood.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Marvin Villanova, Roley Massamino, and Jay Wright.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, couple.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure if you call them a blue blood, but they're blue blood ish. They've been really good for a long.

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Speaker 3: Well with this definition, right again, I don't buy into that.

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Speaker 6: So Josh Shire wins a national title this year, now, Duke's of.

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Speaker 3: Blue blood the duke blue bloods.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there are some that obviously passed this du smell test, right, Kentucky for sure, North Carolina for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kentucky's had three coaches win national titles. Kansas for Marvin.

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Speaker 6: Rub Joe By Hall Patino Klipart. Patino won a national title at Kentucky in ninety six. Oh that's I was there. I'm sorry, I'm old. Yeah, I was actually there at that game in the locker room afterwards. Okay, there's no other school that has four coaches to win national titles at the same school, do they?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Pull Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Kentucky has Rup Joby Hall, Rick Patino, Tubby Smith they got five and John Colly Park Tubby first year after.

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Speaker 3: Patino left, he won with Patino's players. Technically he counts on his tab.

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Speaker 4: Apologies.

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Speaker 2: Dang, okay, Oh, it is the Bluegrass state. Yeah, all right, five coaches. That's as blue as you can be. Yeah, all right, kind of interesting. I'm sure this audience will chip in with a few weathers there. I love listening to Jeff Tige. Jeff Teague has the Club five twenty podcast, and he wasn't a great player, but he is an honest broadcaster.

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Speaker 3: He's a he was a good player.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 2: He's a guy that you you remember the name and maybe you saw him a little bit, but when it I'm used to giving opinions. He is elite. And he talked about how Larry Bird would do in today's NBA.

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Speaker 9: Watching and y'all think of how good yokic? Just how good you think Larry Birr would be right now, Larry Bird.

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Speaker 6: He'd be a small for a version.

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Speaker 3: You think he'd be like one of the best, Like.

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Speaker 6: Larry Bird would do this night and that.

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Speaker 9: Sometimes I used to watch like older people play. I would be like, man Flood, he cain't this. But then when I watched yok It's just like he walking around. He just make it look so stiff. I'm like, if Larry Birr play right now, like Luca and Yokics just be walking around.

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Speaker 2: Ry and and these guys are right, we get caught up in all This guy couldn't play now. Bird would be he would have the green light to take ten three pointers a game, because back when he was playing, you might take two or three that was it. It'd be really rare if it took more than three three pointers, you know, as far as passing, rebounding, scoring, he would be a smaller version of Joker. And I think Joker is the best player in the game because when he goes out there, he's gonna he has the potential to give you thirty fifteen to ten every single night. And it used to be unheard of when you would put up those kind of numbers. Now, I know we're scoring more, but these are still elite athletes. And he makes it look really, really easy. And it's not like he's going to slow down because he can't get a slower And Bird was more athletic than Joker. He could lead the fast break if you look when they played against the Lakers. The Celtics are running a fast break on showtime. But Bird would not have any I mean, would he have problems or yeah he would, but he would be great. And you know, he might be able to prolong his career better conditioning up his back. But Larry Bird would dominate. He would be a great player. And I go with Lebron's best year ever and Larry's best year, and I think they were around twenty nine. And Larry was a better player than Lebron, like on the offensive side, better player. And I don't know, I think Lebron made a few old NBA defensive teams. But I mean he was moor and off the ball, just like Bird. Bird played the passing lanes. He wasn't guarding anybody really, yeah, Pauling.

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Speaker 7: At the end of that riff, one of the guys says Bird these days, he'd average thirty ten and eight. Yeah, his last year before he hurt his back, he averaged thirty ten and eight, and he'd be shooting, like you said, twice as many threes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he would still You know, once again, having been there and watched it at a very very high level, it's like, oh, would magic be.

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Speaker 3: Able to Yes, magic would be able to.

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Speaker 2: Be You know Rick Berry, who's one of the most underrated players in the history of the sport.

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Speaker 3: These guys were all great. They know how to play basketball. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: See what if Larry Bird started putting up all those shots and missed a lot of them, and then his legacy was significantly diminished where he was then considered overrated because look, he can't shoot threes.

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Speaker 3: I take my chance on Larry's shooting threes.

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Speaker 4: What if all this what if it didn't work out for him and that's why he only took three because he wasn't really that great of a shooter.

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Speaker 3: Well, when you.

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Speaker 2: Have people say, if your life was on the line and you wanted somebody to take a three pointer, your actual life.

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Speaker 4: Limited window, it's a really very small person.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Larry would be great.

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Speaker 4: He would be, But if everybody knew he was that great of a shooter, then why didn't they let him shoot?

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Speaker 3: It wasn't part of the offensive philosophy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you have this kind of shooter and you're like, man, this dude's knocking them down like crazy.

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Speaker 3: Why don't we just let them rip? Well, they didn't do that for Reggie. Yeah, why not? That's the offensive philosophy. Back then.

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Speaker 2: It was about getting the ball inside. It was still it was an interior game. Yeah, Paul, it's a really fair question. Why didn't Larry Bird take eight threes a game? He took two point nine, the most he ever took in a season. Like you said, the sport was just totally different, and that had have been too radical. It's almost like Dan Marino. Why didn't Dan Marino happen a decade earlier? The sport hadn't morphed yet to have that opening or have a coach that would push for that. Yeah, and you see basketball now, and you know, I always bring up loyal to Merrymount, what they did, even go back to Rick Patino's team at Providence and what he did there using the three pointer. That wasn't a good team, but he made them a great team because he had an offensive philosophy, and I think Paul Westead with Loyle to Merrymount to have that creative you know, even with football, you know when when you're running if it was the West Coast offense or you're running a pistol or whatever. You know, June Jones, who was the other guy from Texas. It was another coach, Houston Mouse Davis. Yes, yes, Mouse, did you know? These guys were innovators. But the NBA was pretty boring, uh conservative, The a BA brought out the best in the NBA because except for the red white and blue ball, which I'd be fine if they brought that back. I watching that ABA documentary, Man, I loved shooting with that red white and blue ball. Just getting the spin. Yeah, it's just you could see the rotation as it went into the net.

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Speaker 6: Marvin, Oh, no, I get you. Oh, let me ask you a question. A bigger ego everybody on earth or Rick Berry? But he was killing.

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Speaker 3: He was great.

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Speaker 2: He was great, but he'll he will Yeah, Rick Berry was great, just to ask Rick Barry.

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Speaker 3: But what he did with that Golden.

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Speaker 2: State team and they won to they won the NBA championship, and that that was Rick Berry. Now he had a great assortment of players, role players. But the other player that he had was Jamal Wilkes. I think Silk Wilkes was there, but they didn't have you undersized guards and Rick Barry.

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Speaker 3: He was a great player, great player.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Marvin, is he in the Moses Malone category where you don't talk about him enough, or the general republic don't talk about him enough the way we talk about maybe Magic and Michael and those guys.

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Speaker 2: Well, there was nothing you know, I talk about Moses that artistically stylistic. It wasn't pleasing to watch. He was just relentless, Like his jumper was over his head and a little off balance, and it wasn't a good jumper jump shot. But on the boards he's probably the best that I ever saw offensively and defensively combined. Now we can put Wilt Russell in there, but I'm just talking about modern day and Moses was great. But he came along, came out of high school, went to the ABA. You know they maybe you missed some of that early career. It's like doctor J. I mean, Doctor J got his best years in the ABA.

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Speaker 3: He was just different.

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Speaker 2: He was different than anybody else and h but this gives you an idea. And that's what I loved about the ABA documentary. It's a lot of interviews, a lot of guys still alive that they talked to, and very enjoyable. They brought back a lot of memories and the fact that I'm watching the Kentucky Colonels in person and they're playing the Spirits of Saint Louis, and you got dan Isssell and artist Gilmore and then you had Marvin Bad News Barnes. I think Fly Williams on the team. I think Bob Costas was the broadcaster.

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Speaker 4: Yes he was, yeah, yes, yes, see Marvin bad News Barnes sounds like a boxer.

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Speaker 2: Wall he went to prison, Okay. I played at Providence with Ernie d. Gregorio.

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Speaker 4: Sounds like a dude who's like the bantamweight.

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Speaker 3: He was not bantam whatever. I don't know. He was six'.

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Speaker 2: Nine he was bad, News marvin Bad News. BARNES i did a story WHEN i was AT. ESPN i visited him in A california, lockup and, uh that was surreal because you do the interview obviously in kind of the general, area and people thought he was getting, preferential treating like they were just, Yelling star'm trying to do an, interview and, yeah that was to see him that he had fallen that, far that he was in prison AND i think outside Of San. Diego all, right when we come, Back Roger bennett men In blazers and his book on The World.

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Speaker 2: Subscribe got a book in the mail the other. Day realized it was From Roger, bennett AND i, Said, fritzy we got to get mister Menon blazers the media. Network now he's got an. Empire He's Roger. Bennett he's the FOUNDER ceo Of men And Blazers Media. Network Fully british but Fully american as. Well it's Called We are The World, cup a personal history of the world's greatest sporting. Event great to have you, Back oh Damn, patrick it to see you? Beautiful how are?

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Speaker 5: Morale i'm, Alive, dan which is better than the other, option but only just is the honest truth in every Of. God these are the best of, times the worst of times on one hundred days out from A World, cup and the world is making it quite. Complicated i'm not going to like.

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Speaker 2: It, okay if you're going to pitch to somebody thirty seconds and you're going to say you got to watch The World, cup how would you use those thirty seconds to say you got to watch this?

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Speaker 3: Event?

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Speaker 5: Ah tell them to buy my book because it's a magical telling of the power of the men's, tournament Which i've come to Realize, dan it's like a solar eclipse that engulfs the entire planet for its. Duration who doesn't want to be part of?

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Speaker 2: THAT i think that was even less than thirty, Seconds Sir.

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Speaker 5: Mall you know time is, Money, dan and you know you know that when The Boston Red sox played The Oakland. Athletics it's a fantastic game of. Baseball it's like chess with chewing. Tobacco but when two teams take their nation's shirts onto a football, field the nation's, history the nation's, politics the nations cultures take the field alongside, them it's a mirror to. Humanity it's a mirror to our. WORLD i think What whitman if he was alive, today he'd be a big football. Fan take it contains. Multitudes and then the only other Thing i'd say before we get into this in our dark, world our world of, chaos The World. Cup two hundred million people watch The Super bowl max probably at this point five billion people watch The World. Cup and so it's the last thing that completely electrically globally connects us In please guard a positive way and we really need that right.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah but you don't shy away from the geopolitical portion of The World. Cup and there's certainly what's going on now, teams there are countries that are going to be, In like Is iran not going to be? In and then who do you put? In If iran's not going to be playing in The World.

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Speaker 5: Cup you know who quite possibly could come in If iran don't get, in because they're already thirty six hours into the weekend's. Darkness the head of The Iran Football federation, said, yeah we may not be able to play in This World cup In Los angeles And. Seattle it would Be.

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Speaker 3: Iraq.

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Speaker 5: Dan oh, Wow, YEAH i to your. Question it's WHY i wrote the, book which starts in nineteen seventy. Eight the First World. CUP i remember every four. Years it's the spine of my, life spine of so Many americans. Life now, this you, know this incredible tournament that is so rare and almost like you, Know dylan albums For dylan. Aficionados The World cup is an alternate way for me of re examining my. Biography and, again millions of people around the world feel the. Same i've always felt the joy of football is that it is a mirror to the world that surrounds. It in all, Seriousness it's always been very beautiful to. Me. Yeah when The World cup was In South africa in twenty, Ten, Mandela South, africa and we got to see a whole continent rise and sees the world's spotlight it's very very, profound it's very very. Beautiful we've come to realize in modern times that the mirror stays true even when the world becomes chaotic and. Ugly it's kind of where we are right, now and as you, say the geopolitics could not be more. Complicated it's fairly unprecedented that this, situation not just THE us, situation you, Know, mexico the violence there In, guadalajara A World cup. City lets you, Say canada as the third host looking pretty bloody good right.

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Speaker 2: Now you look at THE us team and it feels like in a different generation With Landon darnovan And Tim howard and we knew. Them this, TEAM i don't know if they're going to be more, TALENT i don't know if they're, better but it doesn't feel like we know This american team as much as we did that, team.

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Speaker 3: You, know from a you, know a few years. Ago isn't that?

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Speaker 5: Crazy because football's never been more popular in The United states than it is. Now The economist a couple of weeks ago revealed that soccer Is america's third favorite, sports just pushed out. Baseball ten percent Of americans say soccer is their favorite sport of choice baseball at nine. PERCENT i was. LAUGHING i went on A rod show and he kept asking me variations of the same, question which was, like we're sucker going to take off in The United. STATES i was, like, Hey, rod it's just edged out your baseball. BABY i felt LIKE i felt LIKE i was saying the world is round day rather than you are a Flat. Earth so the sport's never been more, popular and we have a young audience that's Grown World cup To World cup across this. Nation and the crazy thing that's happened is in the olden, days we used to THE us team just by default because it was like what you. Had but now this young, audience they cheer For, liverpool they cheer For, arsenal they cheer For paris And, jaman they cheer For, Barcelona Real. Madrid they are watching twenty four to, Seven and you're, right it does feel like THE us team has almost gone into a. Bubble AND i do hope as one of the storylines because we've never had more talented male players individually than we currently have right now playing on bigger teams and bigger games in bigger. Tournaments are women kick ass and take names and actually win. Things but the men's team need to make some noise at this tournament to make our nation really.

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Speaker 2: Care Does Christian politic want to be the? Face does he want to be? Bigger because you have to put yourself out there to want to be the face OF us.

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Speaker 3: Soccer you will.

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Speaker 5: Have to Get Christian politic on to answer that question. Himself he is A we've, tried he doesn't do much who doesn't say? Yes THE dB, AGREE i, Agree, okay get on the case, MAN i, Mean i'll SAY i first Interviewed christian when he was. Sixteen he is the most, talented the most accomplished young male football our nations ever produced in terms of playing the biggest games for the biggest teams consistently. Scoring Clint dempsey is the most remarkable in terms of his you, know thriving In. Europe What christian has done is without a. Doubt what he can do with a football is without a doubt. Peerless he's also incredibly. Quiet he's also incredibly. Introverted but he's also the gentleman who's cursed early by a REALITY tv show at a porn store where they were trying to explain how much A Christian politics signed jersey should be and that the porn shop owner, goes, oh dudes like The Lebron james of. Soccer so that's kind of cursed. Him and he is the commercial. Faith you'll see him in every. Ad the ones, Said David beckham is going to be all over Our World. Cup but given the, choice does he want to do? It the honest truth is he's made it very clear he. Doesn't he loves playing. Football it's where he. SPEAKS i, mean you know athletes like this in the in THE, nba in THE, nfl they like to do their talking on the. Court that's Who Christian politic is in his.

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Speaker 2: Heart and So polisic reminds me Of Mike trout from The Angels Mike. Trout now it's like we're waiting for him to show his. Personality he's not going, To, hey you got to be the face of the. Sport it's not happening. Here it's it's, like you, Know western McKinney might be the guy that people focus on and go all, right that, guy you, know he wants to be maybe a little bit.

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Speaker 5: More, YEAH i Mean Chris richards who plays in The Crystal palace in The Premier, league this child Of, Birmingham alabama who has made it to The Premier league and draft. Dominating you not really Acknowledged i'm bloody blown, away damn in your? Ar CAN i just? SAY i, MEAN i tell. YOU i tell a story in the book about HOW i started to Do Morning joe in twenty, ten way ahead of football really taking. Off. Here Joe scott would just. Loved The Premier league would have me. On it was, crazy like they'd be doing like, stagflation the recession in the economy With Mike, blinberg and then they'd be, like and Here's Roger bennett and they'd be, like, yo SO i drop. In and the second second TIME i was, On Tom brokaw stopped me and.

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Speaker 1: Goes yo, Yo, yo yo.

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Speaker 5: Yo AND i said What? Tom and he, goes why are we talking about soccer On morney and when we have baseball and Young americans love baseball and we should be talking about, Baseball and he went off on me for five. MINUTES i didn't get a word, in but in my own HEAD i was, LIKE i can't, Interrupt Tom. Brokaw it's like the. Queen you don't interrupt the. Game and he just he danced on my, graves you, know spat me, out AND i walked off set without getting word. IN i felt like that big and they said come on next, Week. ROGER i was, like.

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Speaker 8: Really you want me?

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Speaker 5: On after, that managed just the masculating. Me and every time for two, years every time he was on, Set i'd be, like get broke off and they'd wheel broke our, Off they'd wheel him, off off you, Go. Grandpa and then two years on they had him on AND i was, like get broke, Off you've got to go on going live three two to one AND i. STARTED i was, like you Know manchester and broke on.

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Speaker 1: Goes, whoa.

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Speaker 5: WHOA i was, like what broke?

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Speaker 3: Off what do you? Want?

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Speaker 5: Man AND i used to hate. SOCER i was, LIKE i know you scarred me for several, Years, tom and he was now Every CHRISTMAS i go with my son in laws To england to watch four or Five Premier league games and we fly coach AND i, realized when we've Got Tom brokott in our football. Camp tomorrow night In, houston we're doing a live show WITH Jj. Watt you know that child Of wisconsin who grew up playing hockey in gridiron. Football when we've Got brokaw and we've GOT Jj watt and we got DAMN pa dropping, NAMES i think we've kind of Made is this the moment football makes it In?

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Speaker 2: Americas So Roger, bennett the FOUNDER ceo Of men And Blazers Media, network and his book released, Today We are The World, cup A Personal history of the world's greatest supporting. Event but you bring up an interesting point of you're building a brand in a country, soccer men's, soccer trying to build a brand in the same country, here and the challenges of being able to do. That it feels like you've been more successful than maybe THE us men's team has in building that.

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Speaker 5: Brand why it's the story of my lifetime is coming over. Here nineteen ninety, four the last time The Men's World cup was. Here going into The World, cup there was a study. RELEASE i tell this story in the book where they said soccer is the sixty seventh most populist sport In. America track to pulling is sixty. Six, again everyone's taking a dump on. Soccer they were like, doom saying like this is going to be a dis the no one's going to go to the. GAMES i went to the game In. CHICAGO i didn't have any money for a, ticket just to mill around in case no one turned, up to try and look like a third cousin at a, wedding just like to make the background in the photos kind of feel a little. Live it was. Mobbed americans love a. Circus they love an excuse to daytime. Drink still the best Attended World cup. Ever it will be, broken Please. God this. Summer and it was meant to Make america a football loving nation ninety, Four Like space To Captain, kirk The Final frontier was what THE us.

00:29:32
Speaker 3: Was but it.

00:29:33
Speaker 5: Didn't it didn't happen. Overnight, instead it's happened, organically, authentically instead of it of soccer becoming like a yo yo or a hula, hoop like an overnight sensation of. Fad the roots have really, deeply. Beautifully it's been a story of my, Life dan watching Young, americans our, audience you, know eighteen to twenty four fall in love with, soccer men's, soccer women's. Soccer you, know it's an Enormous hispanic audience in The United, states And americans love the. Best you're drawn to the, best THE, nfl best in the. World, Sorry Canadian Football, league THE nba best in the. World and the complicated thing for Soccer dan is that the best in the world is played In, england The Premier, league and ultimately that's where the audience has really been. Captivated with the rise of, streaming the rise of cable being able to see games live every, week follow along via The, internet that changed. Everything allowed Young americans to connect to these teams From Los angeles as if they were In, liverpool and that's what's kind of driven the. Connection what's amazing is, that you, know Young americans have now fallen in love like Young americans Like tom, Brokof i've fallen in love with the. Sport what's amazing is and is not discussed. Enough The Premier league is now owned majority By, americans the most you, know over half the teams Have american. Aman it's not just The Red, Sox Tom, Werder John henry Running, liverpool The, Dodgers Todd burley and his group Running Chelsea, manchester The buccaneers, group The glazers for good or for, bad and so on and so. On it's, Incredible, like you, Know, america we are essentially after This World cup going to be taking football. Again it's complicated for good and for bad into The american, age which is which is.

00:31:16
Speaker 2: Crazy give me the best case scenario for This United states, Team Oh.

00:31:22
Speaker 5: DAN i mean. Football if it's not about optimism and hope and, delusion THEN i don't know what it. Is AND i. DO i dream of these, boys you, Know Tyler, adams this young guy From wapping just, Falls New, york who drove six hours every day for five days a week for seven years to train In New York. CITY i mean the, sacrifice the, dreams the. HUNGER i dream for, THEM i really.

00:31:51
Speaker 8: DO i.

00:31:51
Speaker 5: Mean the bottom line is it's. Crazy our women kick ass and take names our men in this nation where we put a man on the. Moon we invented the, kroner amongst other. Things we've won one bloody knockout game in the you, know going back To George washington in The World. Cup that's. Crazy morocco got into the semi final with joy and verve and. Audacity we've won one knockout game in our nation's.

00:32:17
Speaker 2: History and your need to know what is the best case? Scenario what AM i going to? Say we're going to win it all every. Night that's the best case scenario that could.

00:32:27
Speaker 5: HAPPEN i will take that bet on the from, You, dan if you believe that, hoop it happens once in my. Lifetime. Dan THAT'S i don't ask for, much, MAN i don't ask so. Much look sweater. One oh they'll be, unbearable won't they? Unbearable what If england Win? America get ready for the sight of growing men bending over and ALL i can say firing fireworks out of. Cavities you did not know it was possible to. Fire it's, crazy, Man you've just asked me the equivalent of what If Charlie brown can? Kick can kick a field goal With lucy? HOLDING i Mean england. Loses england's self sabotage Is england creates. Trauma that's What england, Does england. Winning anybody better at losing Than?

00:33:19
Speaker 3: England?

00:33:21
Speaker 5: Oh why did The Chicago White sox just pop into my head and you cause me? Pain? No, NO i MEAN i have above my. HEAD i have a book which is a biography Of English World cup.

00:33:33
Speaker 2: Campaign The Tracy chapman Album over Your. Shoulder, Oh, tracy come on my. Show you're the one guest we've never. Had she was a soccer player at tough three goals to. Assist just come, On, no you know WHAT i have that on there is because when my, TEAM i Support, everton we're very bad at. Football when we, lose which is, OFTEN i Put Tracy Chapman fastcar on AND i realized the Agony i'm feeling is nothing compared to the pain that trays in the epigraph of my. Book there's A i use the line from The uruguayan Poet Eduardo galion who said football is a pleasure that, hurts and So.

00:34:10
Speaker 5: England they hurt the. Nation they raise their, hopes they shatter. Them the BOOK i have about my head is called Forty years Of? Shite AM i allowed to say that? On which is just kind of captures up.

00:34:22
Speaker 1: They.

00:34:23
Speaker 5: ARE i Support america now, anyway, Baby SO i honestly don't.

00:34:26
Speaker 2: Care He's Roger, bennett FOUNDER Ceo men And Blazers Media network and the book released. Today we're one hundred days. Out We are The World, cup a personal history of the world's greatest supporting. Event pleasure to talk to you, Again good luck with the, Book, Danny thanks for having.

00:34:41
Speaker 5: US i love, YOU i love your. Team it's really a joy to be with you, Kay.

00:34:44
Speaker 3: Thank, You.

00:34:45
Speaker 2: Bud we'll come. Back we'll get to phone calls right after.

00:34:48
Speaker 1: This Fox Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup in the. Nation catch all of our shows At Foxsports radio dot com and within The iHeartRadio. App SEARCH fsr to listen. Live poll result seating for the second. Hour, yeah we got up there for the second. Hour who would you? File follow to safety in a?

00:35:09
Speaker 3: Fire?

00:35:10
Speaker 4: Dan the front row or the back? Row, Now I'm i'm just gonna throw this out. THERE i feel slightly handicapped in that no, Offense. Todd, OH i mean the back row is gonna lose this.

00:35:25
Speaker 3: One, yes, YES.

00:35:27
Speaker 4: I don't think it's because of, me but it might.

00:35:28
Speaker 2: BE i would follow the back room guys that included the big german and his.

00:35:35
Speaker 3: Brother, THEN, ok, YEAH i.

00:35:37
Speaker 4: Should throw THE i should throw the vrgs in.

00:35:39
Speaker 2: There, yeah, Right dylan might be able to figure out a way to get out of the. BUILDING i mean there's a lot of doors hears.

00:35:48
Speaker 3: Out what are the results so? Far right?

00:35:51
Speaker 4: Now forty seven percent of the audience would follow You, no then the front, row then the back.

00:35:57
Speaker 2: Row, yeah people are gonna want to try to keep me, alive at least for the next two. Years stat of The day brought to you By Panini, america the official trading cards for The Dan Patrick. SHOW a couple more phone Calls andrew And. Washington Hi, andrew what's on your mind?

00:36:11
Speaker 3: Today?

00:36:13
Speaker 8: Oh good, Morning Dan, Danetz thanks for taking my. Call, well you know that left turn as far as blue blood you know programs in THE ncaa tournament.

00:36:21
Speaker 3: Kind of got me.

00:36:22
Speaker 8: Going i'm a big blue Blue devil. Fan they do put blue in blue. Bloods you can't, have you, know as far as top four in national, championships top three in tournament, wins top two and number one seed to ever eleven championship, game seventeen final, Fours it doesn't matter who's, Coaching it matters if you. Win you, know you're talking to two coaches for a, PROGRAM Nc state And Ohio. State they're blue. Bloods, NO i don't think. So Florida gators, maybe but they're not quite up to that upper echelon of. Consistency And duke has five double digit wins over ranked opponents this, year which is the most by any program since two thousand one or two thousand and.

00:37:00
Speaker 3: Two so there's my.

00:37:01
Speaker 8: Argument stay in your, lane don't argue about.

00:37:04
Speaker 3: All, right thank, You, andrew thank.

00:37:06
Speaker 6: You.

00:37:07
Speaker 3: YEAH i just want, sustainability that's.

00:37:10
Speaker 2: ALL i don't think you need to have another coach to come in and win and win a, title and then you become a blue. Blood you, Know Tubby smith winning another title For kentucky doesn't change my opinion Of. Kentucky they're a blue blood. Absolutely louisville, basketball they had two different, coaches great. Run not as of, late but you know When Denny crumb was, there, man when you, know they Had Darryl, griffith Doctor Duncan.

00:37:40
Speaker 3: Stein, golly were they a fun.

00:37:43
Speaker 2: Team When louisville Played. Houston was that the semi? Finals, Yep oh my. Goodness that was just up and. Down they were doing things that you, know maybe a tenth of one percent of people in The United states playing basketball could, do maybe even less than.

00:38:07
Speaker 3: That, YES. Pauli that was the.

00:38:09
Speaker 7: Semifinal houston won ninety four eighty one In. Albuquerque came The dreams on the, Team Clyde drexler's on the. TEAM i, mean there's some star.

00:38:17
Speaker 2: Power but because of the result of that, game nobody THOUGHT mc state could Beat houston because and back then they didn't have a shot, clock And Jim valvano Outsmarted.

00:38:32
Speaker 3: Guy.

00:38:32
Speaker 2: Lewis he out smarted him because he was, like we're going to take the air out of. This we're gonna make every possession matter to, you and every time you get the, ball you, know you better, score you better make your free. Throws And valvano won a national. Championship, Yes Bawling.

00:38:48
Speaker 7: Houston came out of the tunnel sporting five slam a jam of warm up. Shirts is the first time they had ever worn. Them they dunked fourteen times in the game as a.

00:38:56
Speaker 3: Team, yeah something to see it.

00:39:01
Speaker 2: Was that Was i've seen a, lot but that's one of those games where you, go this is being played at a different, altitude and it was because it was literally at a different.

00:39:14
Speaker 3: Altitude.

00:39:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, see very portion of the population that reacted negatively to.

00:39:20
Speaker 3: That many.

00:39:20
Speaker 4: DUNKS i don't remember. That it feels like that's one of those moments where it's, like this isn't.

00:39:25
Speaker 3: Basketball that's not the.

00:39:27
Speaker 2: Game, well, okay maybe maybe if you grew up in the, fifties.

00:39:32
Speaker 4: WELL i mean that would have been the generational, split, Right, yeah, baby that's.

00:39:35
Speaker 3: Not the GAME i grew up watching. One are these guys doing? Jumping?

00:39:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, fundamentally don't just place it in, there you shoot. It, yes they're dribbling behind their. Back what are they?

00:39:45
Speaker 3: Doing not the? Game who told the announcers to sound like? That back? Then does all the announcers sound like?

00:39:55
Speaker 5: That was?

00:39:56
Speaker 3: It holly? One i'll have half a pound a ham and some?

00:39:59
Speaker 8: Shit?

00:40:00
Speaker 2: Jeez, hey that how you order YOUR i recognize that. Voice you're the voice of The New York Football. Giant no problems that we've got that coming up right for. YOU i think it Was hollywood that created.

00:40:12
Speaker 5: That was?

00:40:13
Speaker 2: It the newsreels memory you go to a movie, Theater, yes and they would do THE u and The titanic sank on this.

00:40:22
Speaker 3: DAY i found a lot of, those and they have that.

00:40:24
Speaker 5: Tone it's just like doing like war updates and.

00:40:28
Speaker 3: Stuff oh get them, boys what go get?

00:40:32
Speaker 4: Them this is how we find, out like what's happening in the.

00:40:35
Speaker 6: World do you go to the?

00:40:36
Speaker 4: MOVIES i, know don't want to watch a picture.

00:40:38
Speaker 3: Show let's get an update on the front lines Of. Germany, oh get them? Boys what that's?

00:40:44
Speaker 7: It they started the nineteen tens israels during movies and they were big in the thirties and.

00:40:50
Speaker 3: Forties yeah we. Won damn, YES i win for The, Red white And. Blue, yeah, yes don't mass with.

00:41:00
Speaker 2: Us final hour on the, Way Reggie Aloisious Miller, junior the third will stop. By more phone calls as, Well, Fritzie's, Seaton Mark, Paula yours truly in the back, room, guys