Chapter 2 Ep. 27b WSOP/Vegas Wrap up

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Podcasting from the ad of studio.

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It's the longest running poker podcast

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for the everyday Poker player.

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With your host. Go scale.

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Hello team, and welcome to the full idiot

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at Poker podcast, wherever hand is an opportunity.

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Every player is a friend and every episode

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is a winning experience.

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I'm your host, Joe Scales, and I am

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so glad to be bringing you this episode

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even though it's a little later.

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Thank you to everyone that reached out to

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me as well.

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I never realized how many people have had

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kidney stones either that

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really kinda blew my mind.

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I am feeling much better now, though and

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looking to forget about maybe that part of

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the trip because the rest of our time

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in Vegas was

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so incredible.

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I was able to meet some of our

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listeners out there and I think next year,

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maybe we should have some kind of meetup

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up for dinner or cocktails somewhere.

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For me,

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and I think I can speak for l

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on this 1 as well.

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Meeting you guys is always the highlight of

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our trip to anywhere.

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That's why it was so important

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for us to bring the cruises back,

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being able to have many of you in

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1 place and getting the opportunity to sit

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down and play poker with you guys,

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It's gonna be such a great time. So

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if you haven't signed up there already, there's

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still some rooms available, and I wanna see

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as many of you as possible. So

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Go to any up cruises dot com and

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sign up.

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A new week of the Any up series

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is back on Rad Poker. So I'll be

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able to play with you guys there too.

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With all that was going on in Vegas,

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I wasn't able to get on in play.

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But now we're back to

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I don't know, some sort of normalcy.

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And I plan to get on and play

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much more. So I wanna see those tournaments

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fill up

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join if you haven't already.

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I will say, I missed playing the heads

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up format while we were in Vegas, and

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the speed that I was able to get

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through a game. I could kick out a

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couple of games in, like, 20 minutes, tops.

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And if you're

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not as good at the heads up format,

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what better way to practice than to get

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in a bunch of hands. When we had

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Na sean on a couple of weeks ago,

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He was giving everyone that first month free,

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that'll be ending soon. So jump on, try

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it out for free.

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See if you like it. And if so,

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4 99,

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a month

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for a chance to win

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so much

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more is 1 of the biggest bargain you'll

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find in Poker. I mean, they've given away

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over 200000

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dollars already.

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That's all I have. So let's get on

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with the show.

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Find out, what conversations are happening around the

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poker table.

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With table on.

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Elena and I are back around the table.

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At home.

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We made it.

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Yeah. We're not gonna give you the play

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by play the last 72 hours, but been

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pretty rough.

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Between

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kidney stones and It crashes and

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who

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airports,

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yeah. We we made it though. We did.

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Made it and And well last weekend vegas

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was fantastic. Oh, incredible. Yeah.

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Loved it. And

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I'll just

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start with the win because we're gonna be

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going back there again in December. So... I

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can't wait.

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We'll start... We we actually went down there

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to see Todd Le in in action. We...

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We had mentioned I think last week, I

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think I miss spoke. Didn't think I said

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that he was dealing at the win, but

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he's he was actually

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helping run the floor.

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And doing a great job. Really in Truly.

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And and we're always gonna stay true to

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what we said last week, which is we're

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not out out in Vegas

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to cover play by play. There's plenty of

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news and other media outlets that

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give you the hand by hand breakdown. We're

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we're out there to really see what's going

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on at the people,

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the overall tournament experience itself. And and part

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of

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the tournament experiences,

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people who don't make it to the end.

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Are out in other casinos playing. And so

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we either interacted with them at the table.

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got to see him in action just like

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Todd Le mans.

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1 of our investors was was the floor

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manager. So a beautiful poker room if you

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haven't seen it or or visited it. I

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would highly recommend it. And we even got

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to try maker's mark at the at the

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bar in the casino

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right next to

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really close by to the Poker room. So

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that was really fun experience. They didn't even

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they didn't have

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the

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original. Right? They only had 46 6. Yeah.

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We also...

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We had said we were gonna make it

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down to Jack Bin

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for a steak there. That didn't happen. We

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didn't make it. So much going on. But

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we did we did have a nice dinner

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at

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chic.

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In the venetian. Yeah. Joe and I wanted

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to celebrate

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on day 10

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for covering the W sop main event together

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that's That's what we chose. That's the restaurant

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we chose to celebrate. And then were we

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very pleased that that's the 1 we chose.

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I have always had this

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obsession. Okay. That's a good word for it.

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With Cas.

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Like, there's a place back in Kansas

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that has

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the absolute

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standard

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that all other cases are judged by,

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and

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So this place had some table side case.

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So they actually make it right there in

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front of you.

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it's... It was

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really, really good. It's different. It's not the

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same kind of case so that...

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You're used to. But... Yeah. But it was

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really good. It was it was just awesome

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our that our wage even. It's typically, it

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comes with a different meal, but she was

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willing to

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just give us an additional charge for the

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experience and the table side.

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Entertainment, I guess you could say.

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But we... I had the Venezuelan short rib,

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which had, C Mash next to it. So

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good. Yeah. And I had the

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Hawkins roti chicken.

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I hope I said that right.

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Sounded sound right to me.

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Our meal was phenomenal. The service was exceptional.

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And I also got to

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try a maker's mark drink there called the

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peach Fuzz. It's maker's mark with

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peach preserves, lemon bidder and,

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q club soda.

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Little on the sweet side for me, I

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think I think the peach preserves, which is

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what what took it over the edge for

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me, but

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very good. Yeah. So, I mean, maker's Mark

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followed us around. I mean, it it it

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it was definitely a part of our

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experience in Vegas as well. So,

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always appreciate

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them being a sponsor of the show. So

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while we were out there,

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we made some great connections with people, like,

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Joe kim did a phenomenal job. Also just

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working on our reels to add to our

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social media and things like that.

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Dustin, we met Dustin, 1 of our listeners,

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we met up with him. Were able to

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have a breakfast with him and actually

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filmed some of his tips and tricks out

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there for those of you going out to

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Vegas. Yeah. Dustin actually has had a great

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opportunity to be able to go twice and

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play in multiple events

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throughout the whole series. And so, you know,

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as we just... As we talked with him

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over breakfast, we said,

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sounds like you've done this a couple times

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and he was like, yeah, And I have

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this routine I follow, and I... And we

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both agreed.

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We wanted to share that with all of

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you. So definitely,

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take a look at, all the tips and

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tricks that dustin and shared just from

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registration to

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nutrition while you're there to

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you know, what to look out for, how

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to plan your... How to plan your trip.

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Yep. Overall. I mean, every time we travel,

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we learn something, and he had

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excellent information, so really great to meet you,

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Dustin.

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And we also got to have breakfast on

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a different day with Norman Mary anne. Yeah.

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They are

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incredible as well. Love meeting them. Special couple.

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They are a team. Yeah. Now when you

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meet AAA couple. It's like a power couple...

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I think they're power couple. Yeah. 100 percent.

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100 percent.

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Enjoyed talking to them. It was

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kind of rushed a little bit more than

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than I think we would have liked because

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we had... That was on our final day

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there in Vegas after our

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night in the yard,

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So we didn't get to spend probably as

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much time as we would have liked with

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them, but it was wonderful meeting them, and,

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of course,

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William, the the pharmacist

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at the venetian.

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Yeah. We get... I highly doubt William is

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listening, but what he doesn't know is is

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I I believe he's getting a dozen bacon

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roses delivered to his workplace this week. William,

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the pharmacist was pivotal in our medical experience.

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So needless to say we met people

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through Poker, through trips to Walgreens

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through, you know,

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just fancy meals out. Our whole trip, we

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were greeted

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and taken care of by lots and lots

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of phenomenal people.

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And that's always my favorite thing to do

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when traveling is meeting new people, and

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I would say that we're extremely grateful for

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those that we've met on this trip. Oh,

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absolutely. And, you know, our our last 2

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days because the main event ended and we

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had 2 days before we had to fly

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out. Yeah.

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And 1 of those last 2 days was

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supposed to be

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our day to go back downtown

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because you did we were down there for

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a little bit, but you really didn't get

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the experience the whole Fremont months. Fremont Street

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and all that. And

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so our goal was to go back down

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there

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play dollar blackjack jack.

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Eat a 12 dollar prime rib. Okay

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really saving up my steak experience for that.

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And then maybe hit the rooftop pool at

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Circa.

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We intentionally added multiple days onto to our

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trip so that we could have a little

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bit of breathing room,

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meet with people

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have some fun. That ended up being way

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more expensive 2 days than we anticipate

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at an urgent care and an, which I

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just 10 out of 10. Don't recommend any

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urgent care or visit when you're out of

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your comfort zone,

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meaning, hometown where you know where to go.

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So

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you know, lessons learned take medications with you,

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even if you don't need them.

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Right.

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Even if you haven't them in a while.

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And this may sound doom and gloom, but

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1 of the big takeaways we took from

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this trip in particular was

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it's always a good idea to research hospitals

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or urgent cares

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wherever you're traveling.

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Just so you don't have to make decisions

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under pressure. So, I mean, I know we've

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gone state in resorts.

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And we travel out of the country a

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lot, but I think this is something I'm

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gonna pay more attention to and just

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just having some

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some idea of

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where you should go and case things come

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up because

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say la. Yeah. Poor L was on the

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phone with

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everybody that we possibly could have met in

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the last

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week

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just trying to figure out what hospital to

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go to. It

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And,

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meanwhile, I was

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not much help writ in pain.

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So,

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I do appreciate

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you making all those phone calls, and, of

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course, figuring all that out. But of course.

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But let's talk about the W sop. That's

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why we were there.

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This what brought the most

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most excitement outside of the visit.

334
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Overall, I would say, I was so impressed

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with the number of players that were there,

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number 1. Number 2,

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the language is being spoken, the countries represented.

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I did not anticipate it being so a

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diverse

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experience, and it was awesome to meet people

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from all over the world. You know, of

342
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course, we heard bad beats and success stories,

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but

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in general, I was just in awe at

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the amount of people participating in the event.

346
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Right. And those last 3 days man. Action

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packed.

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Action, packed. The last 3 days in the

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main event. Day 8.

350
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We consistently bounce between the 3 tables that

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are in that main arena at horseshoe.

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And,

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you know, of course, our hearts were heavy

354
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when Chrissy Fox was eliminated. She had the

355
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best shirts I'm still gonna try to get

356
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1 of those

357
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Yeah. T shirts, no Fox given.

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And there's a fox with her glasses on.

359
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Yeah. So if there's any Chrissy Fox and

360
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fans, that are close to her,

361
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please right into the show and let me

362
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know how can get 1 of those shirts

363
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I will pay

364
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premium to get 1 of those. But also,

365
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like, Jesse Bryant, and... Oh, played his heart

366
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out. Man. So we hated to see him

367
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go, love meeting Jesse Caps. Not duck man

368
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or Duck.

369
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I can't remember when he... What he prefers

370
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to go by, but we were able to

371
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hang out with Jesse quite a bit. Over

372
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the last week and so enjoying meeting him

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and also just

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ad admire his friend Igor Mo.

375
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And the rail he brought...

376
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Let me tell you the support for him

377
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was on unreal. Yeah. A crazy rail and

378
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loudest by far on that day. 1 sure.

379
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100 percent.

380
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We went to bed day 8, not really

381
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knowing what to expect.

382
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Obviously, we're down to

383
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top top 9 and rolled in day 9

384
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and

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Big bird, Jason S,

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the brightest rail. But by far. Those big

387
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versions were amazing.

388
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I love those shirts. And you brought up

389
00:14:00,460 --> 00:14:01,740
a good point. How do they pee... How

390
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do they get these shirts made so quickly?

391
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Yeah. I don't know if they had to

392
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pay a pretty penny or if they already

393
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came prepared in hopes that it was gonna

394
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happen. I'm not sure. I mean, even Nicholas

395
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from Sweden, even his rail head shirts Yep.

396
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Made very quickly.

397
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So

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Every player has

399
00:14:19,359 --> 00:14:20,630
ridiculous things that they do,

400
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Sea rock, had ice packs on day 8,

401
00:14:23,747 --> 00:14:25,340
and I just could not stop dying laughing.

402
00:14:25,499 --> 00:14:27,570
His buddy would rotate between 5 ice packs

403
00:14:27,570 --> 00:14:30,039
for him. I think overnight, they thought, we

404
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gotta come up with a better and 3

405
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9.

406
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And he had a a neck fan, whatever

407
00:14:34,915 --> 00:14:35,871
those things was cooling.

408
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Yeah. Gadgets are... So I was I kind

409
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of impressed, but then it took away that

410
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need a relieve for me.

411
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So that was also an action packed day.

412
00:14:46,165 --> 00:14:49,206
Yeah. Originally... High high level then going on.

413
00:14:49,444 --> 00:14:51,431
Right. And the original plan was to end

414
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the day at 4 players come back the

415
00:14:54,213 --> 00:14:57,494
next day, but Jason Say, Big bird

416
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he he busted before that last level,

417
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so we actually ended up

418
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starting day 10 with

419
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3

420
00:15:06,785 --> 00:15:09,413
instead of 4. And the chip counts were

421
00:15:09,413 --> 00:15:12,622
pretty close. Yeah barry. So we thought

422
00:15:13,013 --> 00:15:14,527
k, The action will be a little bit

423
00:15:14,527 --> 00:15:16,917
slow. They'll feel each other out, not the

424
00:15:16,917 --> 00:15:19,648
case. Definitely not the case. And I actually

425
00:15:20,914 --> 00:15:22,820
pid around a little bit that morning if

426
00:15:22,820 --> 00:15:24,965
you wanna use that word, Just thinking,

427
00:15:26,395 --> 00:15:28,381
okay. It... The action is not gonna start

428
00:15:28,381 --> 00:15:30,073
off quick. I can take my time. I

429
00:15:30,073 --> 00:15:31,192
can pick up lunch trust.

430
00:15:31,751 --> 00:15:34,468
You you actually got there. It's... I'll tell

431
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you, it kinda started out a mess for

432
00:15:36,625 --> 00:15:38,796
Joan a disappointment for me. You you got

433
00:15:38,796 --> 00:15:41,191
there with no media I got there forgot

434
00:15:41,191 --> 00:15:42,467
my media pass. Yeah.

435
00:15:44,782 --> 00:15:45,261
I'm like,

436
00:15:46,471 --> 00:15:47,906
On the phone with L going.

437
00:15:48,702 --> 00:15:50,137
So when you come, make sure you bring

438
00:15:50,137 --> 00:15:52,129
my media pass. And I'm, like, really Joe.

439
00:15:52,368 --> 00:15:54,041
I know Really? But then I'm like, I'm

440
00:15:54,041 --> 00:15:55,236
trying to do my best. I promise you

441
00:15:55,236 --> 00:15:57,264
I gonna pick up lunch. So

442
00:15:57,959 --> 00:15:59,552
I actually, I think I ran your media

443
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pass first, and then I went and picked

444
00:16:01,145 --> 00:16:03,215
up lunch, but I had no clue that

445
00:16:03,215 --> 00:16:04,544
action was gonna go that past I was

446
00:16:04,902 --> 00:16:06,647
I was devastated that I wasn't there for

447
00:16:06,726 --> 00:16:10,058
Nicholas. Well, Nicholas is elimination, but I had

448
00:16:10,058 --> 00:16:11,351
0 idea

449
00:16:11,978 --> 00:16:13,890
that he would clap back that quick. You

450
00:16:13,890 --> 00:16:16,520
wanna use that word? Yeah. Jordan G started

451
00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,591
the whole day being very aggressive. And I

452
00:16:18,591 --> 00:16:20,424
was texting you during that whole thing. I

453
00:16:20,424 --> 00:16:20,743
was, like,

454
00:16:21,793 --> 00:16:22,929
G has

455
00:16:23,463 --> 00:16:26,088
upped his... 1 thing. 1 on his mind

456
00:16:26,088 --> 00:16:27,623
at yeah. And

457
00:16:27,998 --> 00:16:29,129
and it was it was a good thing,

458
00:16:29,290 --> 00:16:31,129
but it got him the... To make this

459
00:16:31,129 --> 00:16:32,970
call. Nicholas made this call, I think,

460
00:16:33,850 --> 00:16:34,350
because

461
00:16:34,810 --> 00:16:36,590
of G being so

462
00:16:37,303 --> 00:16:38,579
aggressive Early on.

463
00:16:39,377 --> 00:16:39,877
And

464
00:16:40,494 --> 00:16:42,647
so he was gone before you knew it.

465
00:16:42,966 --> 00:16:44,641
And, of course, we're down to heads up.

466
00:16:44,801 --> 00:16:45,997
So what do they do? They bring in

467
00:16:45,997 --> 00:16:46,850
that that

468
00:16:47,768 --> 00:16:49,446
money and dump it on the table. Yeah.

469
00:16:49,686 --> 00:16:51,524
That's not a show. That's legit.

470
00:16:52,722 --> 00:16:54,320
I mean, then the way that they also

471
00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,333
take it out, is very serious in armed

472
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guards in a locked cart and

473
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I'm panicking. I'm like, oh my god. I've

474
00:17:01,047 --> 00:17:02,245
gotta get the shot.

475
00:17:03,059 --> 00:17:04,815
She just followed the brief. I just followed

476
00:17:04,815 --> 00:17:07,288
the brief briefcase in because there's a... Like,

477
00:17:07,448 --> 00:17:09,841
she said, there's the security guards with guns

478
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in the front.

479
00:17:10,972 --> 00:17:12,801
Everybody just makes a path for them to

480
00:17:12,801 --> 00:17:14,472
bring the money in, so I just snuck

481
00:17:14,472 --> 00:17:15,528
in behind them

482
00:17:16,619 --> 00:17:17,437
to the rail

483
00:17:17,812 --> 00:17:19,028
and started filming

484
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But,

485
00:17:21,002 --> 00:17:23,300
I I didn't film anything else. I was

486
00:17:23,300 --> 00:17:25,599
trying to be respectful. I didn't wanna film

487
00:17:25,599 --> 00:17:26,574
too much, but

488
00:17:26,884 --> 00:17:29,125
I didn't wanna get thrown out. So I

489
00:17:29,125 --> 00:17:30,984
filmed what I could have that and then

490
00:17:31,765 --> 00:17:33,285
got out of there until you came back

491
00:17:33,285 --> 00:17:35,448
with my immediate pass. But... Yeah. And and

492
00:17:35,448 --> 00:17:37,906
really from that point on was the edge

493
00:17:37,906 --> 00:17:39,650
of our seat. I mean, media dashing all

494
00:17:39,650 --> 00:17:41,473
over the room with heads up multiple times,

495
00:17:42,204 --> 00:17:44,042
My would have the lead, G would have

496
00:17:44,042 --> 00:17:44,441
the lead,

497
00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,758
you know, who... Who all the chatter in

498
00:17:46,758 --> 00:17:48,037
the room was who's gonna take the title

499
00:17:48,037 --> 00:17:48,936
down and

500
00:17:49,809 --> 00:17:51,322
you know, and people pulling for g. He's

501
00:17:51,322 --> 00:17:52,835
a family man. I want this guy to

502
00:17:52,835 --> 00:17:54,984
win. He's an amateur. Like, it wouldn't be

503
00:17:54,984 --> 00:17:57,714
amazing for him. And then the psycho

504
00:17:58,344 --> 00:18:00,422
all in. Where tam my flop to straight.

505
00:18:00,661 --> 00:18:02,759
I literally was grabbing my head. Like, what

506
00:18:02,898 --> 00:18:04,896
what? Like, how does that happen? I feel

507
00:18:04,896 --> 00:18:06,985
like there were numerous points in the in

508
00:18:06,985 --> 00:18:08,977
the final table where we were like, oh,

509
00:18:09,057 --> 00:18:10,730
my gosh. I can't believe that just happened.

510
00:18:10,969 --> 00:18:11,288
Mh.

511
00:18:12,005 --> 00:18:13,222
Well, there were really

512
00:18:13,612 --> 00:18:15,119
tons of moments like that. They're throughout the

513
00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,262
whole tournament because we were talking about before,

514
00:18:17,420 --> 00:18:20,142
like, day won, there were so many

515
00:18:21,008 --> 00:18:23,636
hands where quad Oh, showed up. Oh, yeah

516
00:18:23,716 --> 00:18:25,491
Like, it's create... There's

517
00:18:26,265 --> 00:18:28,097
insane hands this this year in the tournament.

518
00:18:28,257 --> 00:18:29,850
Anything can happen. Is what you should know.

519
00:18:30,184 --> 00:18:31,384
Anything can happen.

520
00:18:32,025 --> 00:18:32,525
But,

521
00:18:32,904 --> 00:18:33,464
yeah. Then,

522
00:18:34,105 --> 00:18:35,224
of course, at the end,

523
00:18:36,505 --> 00:18:39,657
everybody's kinda been talking about the the controversy

524
00:18:39,872 --> 00:18:42,279
that that followed that. Right. So

525
00:18:42,891 --> 00:18:43,368
should...

526
00:18:44,003 --> 00:18:45,513
Well, first of all, there were laptops and

527
00:18:45,513 --> 00:18:48,472
phones everywhere The whole time. Everywhere, on many

528
00:18:48,472 --> 00:18:50,622
people's rails and not even just rails, like,

529
00:18:50,861 --> 00:18:51,498
behind the scenes,

530
00:18:52,852 --> 00:18:53,989
we know that players

531
00:18:54,858 --> 00:18:58,628
are always analyzing their play and other others

532
00:18:58,766 --> 00:18:59,005
play.

533
00:18:59,643 --> 00:19:01,557
When they get to watch the quote unquote,

534
00:19:01,716 --> 00:19:03,710
livestream stream that's released, it's an hour later.

535
00:19:04,044 --> 00:19:05,476
So just so you know, if you're watching

536
00:19:05,476 --> 00:19:06,112
this at home,

537
00:19:06,748 --> 00:19:09,214
you're actually watching an hour after the action.

538
00:19:09,851 --> 00:19:10,351
So

539
00:19:11,139 --> 00:19:13,054
lots and lots of players are studying, Lots

540
00:19:13,054 --> 00:19:14,889
and lots of players have have people on

541
00:19:14,889 --> 00:19:16,645
the rail or behind the scenes that might

542
00:19:16,645 --> 00:19:18,321
not even be there that are watching the

543
00:19:18,321 --> 00:19:18,480
play.

544
00:19:19,213 --> 00:19:21,839
And analyzing and and giving advice. What should

545
00:19:21,839 --> 00:19:23,113
you do the next day? What should you

546
00:19:23,113 --> 00:19:24,147
do if you run into this,

547
00:19:24,864 --> 00:19:26,456
player again and so on and so forth.

548
00:19:26,615 --> 00:19:27,729
But I think this year,

549
00:19:29,176 --> 00:19:31,639
There is a solve being used and that's

550
00:19:31,639 --> 00:19:34,419
the big controversy is we all know people

551
00:19:34,419 --> 00:19:35,452
are gonna study the film.

552
00:19:36,103 --> 00:19:37,854
Right. I mean, you would only be wise

553
00:19:37,854 --> 00:19:38,412
to do that.

554
00:19:39,367 --> 00:19:39,867
But

555
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:41,140
solve...

556
00:19:42,312 --> 00:19:43,210
Yeah. It's

557
00:19:44,158 --> 00:19:45,216
Of course, I'm

558
00:19:45,671 --> 00:19:47,264
always going to lean toward...

559
00:19:47,742 --> 00:19:49,415
I want to be playing you,

560
00:19:50,052 --> 00:19:50,871
not somebody

561
00:19:51,884 --> 00:19:52,782
on your rail

562
00:19:53,571 --> 00:19:54,128
and you,

563
00:19:55,162 --> 00:19:57,151
not somebody putting it all into a system,

564
00:19:57,787 --> 00:19:59,560
and and all, I'm

565
00:20:00,348 --> 00:20:02,815
I should be playing just you. I mean,

566
00:20:03,691 --> 00:20:06,658
Tomatoes wearing a patch of somebody that created

567
00:20:06,875 --> 00:20:07,375
a

568
00:20:08,402 --> 00:20:10,175
solve. Right. Right? So

569
00:20:10,868 --> 00:20:12,936
so maybe not the same opportunity. I don't

570
00:20:12,936 --> 00:20:16,039
know. But I think it's it's definitely going

571
00:20:16,039 --> 00:20:16,539
to

572
00:20:17,168 --> 00:20:18,922
change things in the future I feel like.

573
00:20:19,161 --> 00:20:21,632
Oh I definitely think that the W sop

574
00:20:21,632 --> 00:20:22,929
would be wise to

575
00:20:23,625 --> 00:20:26,507
ensure that some type of rule and regulation

576
00:20:26,507 --> 00:20:28,895
is established upfront before next year's game.

577
00:20:30,327 --> 00:20:32,578
Yeah. And so then at

578
00:20:33,365 --> 00:20:35,108
I guess the last part of that is,

579
00:20:35,584 --> 00:20:38,199
we have to also mention that it sounds

580
00:20:38,199 --> 00:20:41,309
like Jeff Platt curse is broken. Oh, yeah.

581
00:20:42,105 --> 00:20:43,935
That's 1 of the things that Mayo said

582
00:20:43,935 --> 00:20:46,402
leaving the room. Yeah. Cursed broken.

583
00:20:46,959 --> 00:20:48,964
Because Jeff platt in case you don't, the

584
00:20:48,964 --> 00:20:50,876
rumor is Jeff Platt talks to you you

585
00:20:50,876 --> 00:20:53,345
bust out. Like... I mean, Chris and Fox

586
00:20:53,345 --> 00:20:55,735
from the table. Somebody somebody in her rail

587
00:20:55,735 --> 00:20:58,537
was talking to Jeff Clad, and and and

588
00:20:58,537 --> 00:20:59,571
from the table, Kristen like,

589
00:21:00,367 --> 00:21:01,880
get so and so away from Jeff Platt

590
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,028
now. Now. Now this... You know that this

591
00:21:04,028 --> 00:21:06,178
is not allowed. So players secret it seriously.

592
00:21:06,416 --> 00:21:09,390
Yes. Yeah. It's she said, good thing I

593
00:21:09,390 --> 00:21:10,350
saw that. Right.

594
00:21:11,789 --> 00:21:14,850
So... But he he had talked with My

595
00:21:15,723 --> 00:21:16,223
And

596
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,273
tomorrow still won. So curse broken, question mark?

597
00:21:21,231 --> 00:21:24,025
Yeah. Here's 1. We'll we shall? We shall.

598
00:21:25,319 --> 00:21:26,519
Nana am I glad that we went.

599
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,259
It was a it was a great experience

600
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:30,839
overall and

601
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,567
already looking forward going back in December,

602
00:21:34,202 --> 00:21:35,631
really looking forward to,

603
00:21:36,346 --> 00:21:38,727
meeting more anti up team members on our

604
00:21:38,727 --> 00:21:40,394
cruise in the fall. If you're still considering,

605
00:21:40,553 --> 00:21:41,999
you can still jump in. We would to

606
00:21:41,999 --> 00:21:44,792
have you. And as always, it's pleasure being

607
00:21:44,792 --> 00:21:46,388
around the table with you, joe. Likewise.

608
00:21:49,991 --> 00:21:51,917
That one's time for call the floor

609
00:21:52,289 --> 00:21:53,660
with Elliott checked.

610
00:21:58,573 --> 00:22:00,646
Elliott Sc joins us each week to say

611
00:22:00,646 --> 00:22:02,638
how he would rule on situations that come

612
00:22:02,638 --> 00:22:04,392
up in your games, and he's with us

613
00:22:04,392 --> 00:22:04,950
again this week.

614
00:22:05,601 --> 00:22:07,586
Elliott, how's it going? Thanks for going pretty

615
00:22:07,586 --> 00:22:09,095
well. Joe. How you doing this week? Oh,

616
00:22:09,254 --> 00:22:11,874
doing well. Still out here in Vegas, Covering,

617
00:22:12,033 --> 00:22:13,010
we're down to

618
00:22:13,399 --> 00:22:15,960
We're down to 3 right now. So That's

619
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:16,119
right.

620
00:22:16,919 --> 00:22:17,819
We're recording

621
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,880
a little bit early. So by the time

622
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:20,335
you guys

623
00:22:21,327 --> 00:22:23,552
hear this, it will actually be over but.

624
00:22:24,029 --> 00:22:25,697
But, yeah, we're down to 3 right now.

625
00:22:26,015 --> 00:22:27,150
And they're gonna finish

626
00:22:27,778 --> 00:22:30,325
on schedule as they play. Yeah. Which has

627
00:22:30,325 --> 00:22:33,270
been pretty much unheard of this series.

628
00:22:34,146 --> 00:22:36,546
Yeah. That's for sure. But, hey, we... We

629
00:22:36,546 --> 00:22:38,054
have a call the floor this week this

630
00:22:38,054 --> 00:22:39,110
sent in by

631
00:22:39,642 --> 00:22:40,594
Clark Francis,

632
00:22:41,547 --> 00:22:42,047
and

633
00:22:42,658 --> 00:22:44,819
this is an interesting when he He says

634
00:22:44,819 --> 00:22:46,660
he was in a hand with 3 others,

635
00:22:48,019 --> 00:22:50,740
so 4 of us to the flop of

636
00:22:50,740 --> 00:22:51,460
all hearts.

637
00:22:53,147 --> 00:22:54,521
The first player to act

638
00:22:54,895 --> 00:22:56,723
puts in a substantial bet.

639
00:22:57,598 --> 00:22:59,210
There is 1 fold

640
00:22:59,999 --> 00:23:02,157
then the player to my right throws his

641
00:23:02,157 --> 00:23:02,796
cards away.

642
00:23:03,515 --> 00:23:06,732
But as he does, he toss them fairly

643
00:23:06,791 --> 00:23:07,750
high in the air.

644
00:23:08,804 --> 00:23:10,103
The player that raised

645
00:23:10,562 --> 00:23:12,580
said, hey, I saw those

646
00:23:12,959 --> 00:23:14,018
and the dealer

647
00:23:14,557 --> 00:23:15,755
immediately calls the floor.

648
00:23:17,367 --> 00:23:19,283
Now the floor rules that the hand should

649
00:23:19,283 --> 00:23:20,879
be turned over for me to see as

650
00:23:20,879 --> 00:23:21,119
well.

651
00:23:22,316 --> 00:23:22,816
And

652
00:23:23,514 --> 00:23:25,371
Clark says, I understand the premise

653
00:23:25,683 --> 00:23:27,854
that if 1 player has more information

654
00:23:28,388 --> 00:23:30,559
than another, then it's not fair, but

655
00:23:30,934 --> 00:23:32,923
they didn't ask the player to identify the

656
00:23:32,923 --> 00:23:34,458
cards in any way or

657
00:23:34,768 --> 00:23:35,905
get any kind of

658
00:23:36,679 --> 00:23:39,725
feel that they even saw the card. So

659
00:23:40,419 --> 00:23:42,305
Clark says, I didn't feel like this could

660
00:23:42,505 --> 00:23:43,705
be the proper ruling.

661
00:23:44,184 --> 00:23:46,265
What would stop me from saying, hey, I

662
00:23:46,265 --> 00:23:47,325
saw someone's cards

663
00:23:47,865 --> 00:23:49,404
just to get the information

664
00:23:49,799 --> 00:23:51,980
about what the player was holding or

665
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,980
playing from that position

666
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,240
or if there are other hearts in their

667
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,359
hand or whatever.

668
00:23:59,331 --> 00:23:59,831
So

669
00:24:00,523 --> 00:24:03,067
he says, in this particular hand, it didn't

670
00:24:03,067 --> 00:24:04,021
really make a difference.

671
00:24:05,213 --> 00:24:06,724
I folded and we moved on.

672
00:24:07,519 --> 00:24:08,178
It just

673
00:24:08,488 --> 00:24:10,876
really had me curious as to if this

674
00:24:10,876 --> 00:24:13,741
was the proper procedure and if not, what

675
00:24:13,741 --> 00:24:15,333
would be the correct way to handle this?

676
00:24:16,542 --> 00:24:18,455
I just don't feel like someone should be

677
00:24:18,455 --> 00:24:21,085
able to state that they saw someone's cards

678
00:24:21,085 --> 00:24:23,100
and it just be turned over so quickly

679
00:24:23,636 --> 00:24:24,009
without

680
00:24:24,447 --> 00:24:26,832
any way of confirming that they actually saw

681
00:24:26,832 --> 00:24:29,216
them. So what are your thoughts Elliot? Well,

682
00:24:29,852 --> 00:24:31,442
I agree with the premise Clark?

683
00:24:32,255 --> 00:24:32,494
Yeah.

684
00:24:33,615 --> 00:24:35,375
It's an easy angle to pull. Oh, I

685
00:24:35,375 --> 00:24:36,575
saw those cards. All of a sudden you

686
00:24:36,575 --> 00:24:38,414
get to see more information. Right.

687
00:24:40,667 --> 00:24:43,459
And especially, the person who would claim to

688
00:24:43,459 --> 00:24:44,017
see the cards,

689
00:24:45,453 --> 00:24:47,606
saw them after he placed his wage,

690
00:24:48,165 --> 00:24:49,601
and it was on somebody else to act,

691
00:24:50,812 --> 00:24:51,312
So

692
00:24:51,929 --> 00:24:53,923
the effect on that particular bed,

693
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:55,677
was nil.

694
00:24:56,634 --> 00:24:57,512
So again, yeah,

695
00:24:58,389 --> 00:25:00,715
to immediately stop all the action and the

696
00:25:00,794 --> 00:25:03,576
Florida immediately turned them over, doesn't seem reasonable

697
00:25:03,576 --> 00:25:04,554
to me. And and

698
00:25:05,087 --> 00:25:05,587
that's

699
00:25:06,438 --> 00:25:07,869
generally not how things should go.

700
00:25:09,873 --> 00:25:11,549
Yeah. You you certainly have to take the

701
00:25:11,549 --> 00:25:13,942
entire context, the entire situation, all of the

702
00:25:13,942 --> 00:25:15,161
relevant information

703
00:25:15,698 --> 00:25:18,026
into account before you'd side to do something

704
00:25:18,026 --> 00:25:19,643
as drastic as turning over

705
00:25:20,499 --> 00:25:21,057
dead cards.

706
00:25:21,775 --> 00:25:23,131
It doesn't appear to be the case here.

707
00:25:23,769 --> 00:25:25,763
There wasn't a whole lot of masking.

708
00:25:26,974 --> 00:25:28,892
A dealer said... Oh, these cards were exposed.

709
00:25:29,132 --> 00:25:30,890
Right. Well, no. We don't know they we're

710
00:25:30,890 --> 00:25:34,006
exposed. And. Nobody could identify them. So again,

711
00:25:34,486 --> 00:25:35,465
yeah. Then

712
00:25:36,975 --> 00:25:38,650
sometimes you gotta slow down a little bit

713
00:25:38,650 --> 00:25:39,687
when you're making a decision.

714
00:25:40,644 --> 00:25:41,144
And

715
00:25:42,558 --> 00:25:43,914
this is probably 1 of those times.

716
00:25:44,473 --> 00:25:46,825
It certainly sounds like it. Yeah. I

717
00:25:48,644 --> 00:25:49,704
I agree with,

718
00:25:50,244 --> 00:25:51,764
your thinking there, Clark and and,

719
00:25:52,884 --> 00:25:54,244
and your instincts were spot on.

720
00:25:55,058 --> 00:25:57,848
What if what if instead of at that

721
00:25:57,848 --> 00:26:00,001
point turning the hand over? Because, like you

722
00:26:00,001 --> 00:26:01,219
said, he had already

723
00:26:01,596 --> 00:26:03,031
placed his bet. Right?

724
00:26:04,316 --> 00:26:05,846
What if after Clark had

725
00:26:07,009 --> 00:26:07,985
called or

726
00:26:08,990 --> 00:26:12,105
made his action, then if it was necessary,

727
00:26:12,344 --> 00:26:14,019
then they could turn the hand over. Would

728
00:26:14,019 --> 00:26:15,853
that be the way to do it or

729
00:26:15,853 --> 00:26:16,890
not turn it over at all?

730
00:26:18,246 --> 00:26:20,261
Yeah. The answer hasn't most

731
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,626
nuanced decisions is it depends.

732
00:26:27,407 --> 00:26:28,997
There will be spots where you would wait

733
00:26:28,997 --> 00:26:30,442
until the end of the hand to show

734
00:26:30,442 --> 00:26:31,873
the cards. There would be spots where you

735
00:26:31,873 --> 00:26:32,667
never show the cards.

736
00:26:34,018 --> 00:26:35,607
This is certainly a marginal spot.

737
00:26:36,894 --> 00:26:38,727
Could you go either way? I suppose, a

738
00:26:38,727 --> 00:26:40,480
lot of people can make the case for

739
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:40,719
either.

740
00:26:42,153 --> 00:26:44,145
My instinct tier is do not show these

741
00:26:44,145 --> 00:26:44,384
cards,

742
00:26:45,499 --> 00:26:46,477
a few players

743
00:26:47,107 --> 00:26:47,745
had a chance,

744
00:26:48,382 --> 00:26:48,882
and

745
00:26:50,691 --> 00:26:51,509
it's not

746
00:26:52,602 --> 00:26:54,752
entirely discernible whether those cards were exposed or

747
00:26:54,752 --> 00:26:54,991
not.

748
00:26:55,724 --> 00:26:57,801
Better safe than sorry. Cards that were meant

749
00:26:57,801 --> 00:26:58,121
to be,

750
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,678
not shown. It should remain not shown,

751
00:27:01,397 --> 00:27:02,515
barring really good reasoning.

752
00:27:03,410 --> 00:27:04,710
And I

753
00:27:05,009 --> 00:27:07,250
can't find it in this particular case. There

754
00:27:07,250 --> 00:27:08,690
are spots where you should be showing the

755
00:27:08,690 --> 00:27:09,730
cards of course. Right.

756
00:27:10,545 --> 00:27:13,825
And even then it it's still generally better

757
00:27:13,825 --> 00:27:14,865
to delay showing them,

758
00:27:16,865 --> 00:27:18,065
than to show them immediately.

759
00:27:18,959 --> 00:27:20,873
And certainly in cases where the the cards

760
00:27:20,873 --> 00:27:23,027
have no effect. And again, I mean it

761
00:27:23,027 --> 00:27:24,861
he could have folded a heart, key heart,

762
00:27:25,419 --> 00:27:26,615
picture ace doesn't matter.

763
00:27:27,652 --> 00:27:28,211
But again,

764
00:27:28,942 --> 00:27:29,577
Yeah. I didn't...

765
00:27:32,037 --> 00:27:34,180
Taking 1 person's word for it and then

766
00:27:34,180 --> 00:27:36,721
immediately acting on it that's a little rash.

767
00:27:38,007 --> 00:27:40,100
Yeah. It does seem like they kinda

768
00:27:41,113 --> 00:27:41,613
jumped

769
00:27:42,069 --> 00:27:42,569
at

770
00:27:43,025 --> 00:27:44,241
exposing these cards

771
00:27:45,095 --> 00:27:45,732
a little quick.

772
00:27:47,740 --> 00:27:49,972
I I don't know. I don't know if

773
00:27:49,972 --> 00:27:52,843
you can ask the player to identify 1

774
00:27:52,843 --> 00:27:55,017
of them to be able to

775
00:27:55,886 --> 00:27:57,556
make sure that he saw them either though.

776
00:27:57,874 --> 00:28:00,579
So I was curious to see how how

777
00:28:00,579 --> 00:28:01,454
you would handle that.

778
00:28:02,822 --> 00:28:04,972
I guess how do you verify? How do

779
00:28:04,972 --> 00:28:07,600
you verify that he even saw the cards?

780
00:28:08,157 --> 00:28:10,546
How would you normally verify something like that?

781
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,634
Or does it even matter?

782
00:28:13,671 --> 00:28:13,911
Well,

783
00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:15,267
sometimes it does.

784
00:28:16,463 --> 00:28:17,202
It matters

785
00:28:17,819 --> 00:28:19,972
more obviously before the best place than after

786
00:28:19,972 --> 00:28:21,184
the best place. In right.

787
00:28:22,303 --> 00:28:23,981
But it still matters. You you you you

788
00:28:23,981 --> 00:28:26,139
certainly don't want players acting on information they

789
00:28:26,139 --> 00:28:26,539
shouldn't have.

790
00:28:27,338 --> 00:28:29,336
You don't want people possessing an advantage over

791
00:28:29,336 --> 00:28:30,795
somebody else because of

792
00:28:31,268 --> 00:28:32,863
the ability to see somebody's cards.

793
00:28:34,060 --> 00:28:36,851
All that is true. That doesn't change, and

794
00:28:36,851 --> 00:28:39,404
that certainly leads people to show cards in

795
00:28:39,404 --> 00:28:41,811
a lot of those situations. Those feelings are

796
00:28:41,811 --> 00:28:42,629
not entirely

797
00:28:43,564 --> 00:28:43,883
invalid,

798
00:28:45,237 --> 00:28:46,433
but you still gotta be careful.

799
00:28:49,394 --> 00:28:49,632
Again,

800
00:28:50,506 --> 00:28:52,014
if if you're gonna show those cards every

801
00:28:52,014 --> 00:28:54,714
time you're opening it up as Clark referred

802
00:28:54,714 --> 00:28:56,643
to to everybody who

803
00:28:57,511 --> 00:28:58,785
claims to have seen cards and all of

804
00:28:58,785 --> 00:29:00,719
a sudden, you gotta show them, which they

805
00:29:01,653 --> 00:29:03,724
if it became rampant, would certainly make the

806
00:29:03,724 --> 00:29:05,737
game un unfavorable. Right? Because it'd being

807
00:29:06,048 --> 00:29:07,798
Yeah stopping all the time to show people's

808
00:29:07,798 --> 00:29:09,628
cards who folded. Then need nobody be able

809
00:29:09,628 --> 00:29:10,264
to fold in peace.

810
00:29:10,980 --> 00:29:11,935
It would be horrible.

811
00:29:13,222 --> 00:29:14,813
Yeah. Of course. I mean, if a guy's

812
00:29:14,813 --> 00:29:17,143
gonna literally lift his cards show the person

813
00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:19,880
who's about to bet his cards, and then

814
00:29:20,794 --> 00:29:21,590
throw them away.

815
00:29:22,385 --> 00:29:24,931
Yeah. Those cards probably bothered probably gotta get

816
00:29:24,931 --> 00:29:25,090
home.

817
00:29:25,806 --> 00:29:27,954
And the player who did that probably needs

818
00:29:27,954 --> 00:29:28,454
to

819
00:29:28,923 --> 00:29:30,914
be taken aside and and explain how this

820
00:29:30,914 --> 00:29:32,369
is supposed to work or or

821
00:29:33,063 --> 00:29:34,655
should be encouraged to play other games.

822
00:29:35,691 --> 00:29:35,929
Right?

823
00:29:37,138 --> 00:29:39,044
At some, you've gotta actually follow the rules

824
00:29:39,044 --> 00:29:41,189
and following the rules means throwing your cards

825
00:29:41,189 --> 00:29:42,618
away in such a way that nobody gets

826
00:29:42,618 --> 00:29:43,095
to see that.

827
00:29:44,127 --> 00:29:44,627
So

828
00:29:46,292 --> 00:29:48,448
helicopter it has it's called on pi.

829
00:29:49,406 --> 00:29:50,284
I don't know it. So...

830
00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:54,355
The action of the the word is correct,

831
00:29:54,515 --> 00:29:56,382
but it's so un

832
00:29:56,756 --> 00:29:59,060
and such a mouthful that we shouldn't be

833
00:29:59,060 --> 00:30:00,514
using it. But

834
00:30:01,921 --> 00:30:04,244
that's generally what it's called. When you send

835
00:30:04,244 --> 00:30:06,241
your cards up high enough that people can

836
00:30:06,241 --> 00:30:07,600
see them and they flop back down.

837
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:10,317
Yeah. You don't want people doing that either.

838
00:30:10,477 --> 00:30:12,968
That's not responsible handling of your cards. That's

839
00:30:12,968 --> 00:30:14,404
certainly within the rules of the game.

840
00:30:15,201 --> 00:30:16,797
In the Td obviously rule 2,

841
00:30:17,754 --> 00:30:18,573
play responsibilities,

842
00:30:20,226 --> 00:30:21,923
and cash games most

843
00:30:22,634 --> 00:30:24,407
rooms have at least

844
00:30:25,499 --> 00:30:27,727
a brief if not explicit reference to how

845
00:30:27,727 --> 00:30:28,624
players should

846
00:30:30,193 --> 00:30:32,197
maintain their cards and and get them to

847
00:30:32,197 --> 00:30:33,550
the dealer when it's time to fold.

848
00:30:34,345 --> 00:30:36,277
So again, yeah There are

849
00:30:36,652 --> 00:30:38,855
different answers for different situations, and

850
00:30:39,851 --> 00:30:42,186
Yeah. There's a a wide spectrum of weather

851
00:30:44,318 --> 00:30:47,349
whether cards may or may not have been

852
00:30:47,349 --> 00:30:48,646
seen or shown and

853
00:30:50,159 --> 00:30:50,900
the remedies

854
00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:52,099
for those

855
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,279
situations. But, yeah. Yeah. We gotta keep the

856
00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:57,599
game fair, which means sometimes you're gonna see

857
00:30:57,599 --> 00:30:57,679
them.

858
00:30:58,413 --> 00:30:59,689
And sometimes you're not,

859
00:31:00,406 --> 00:31:01,703
and it,

860
00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:03,616
yeah. Based on,

861
00:31:04,551 --> 00:31:07,111
pretty well described event from Clark here. I'm

862
00:31:07,111 --> 00:31:08,775
not convinced that the cards needed to be

863
00:31:08,775 --> 00:31:11,232
shown here. And so maybe in this case,

864
00:31:11,549 --> 00:31:12,049
it's

865
00:31:12,659 --> 00:31:13,476
just a

866
00:31:13,942 --> 00:31:16,743
let it play out and then maybe even

867
00:31:17,433 --> 00:31:19,044
a warning to the person

868
00:31:19,575 --> 00:31:21,797
throwing their cards, helicopter as you said,

869
00:31:22,685 --> 00:31:25,488
their cards to be a little more careful

870
00:31:25,544 --> 00:31:25,941
for sure.

871
00:31:26,894 --> 00:31:27,292
Right.

872
00:31:28,403 --> 00:31:29,754
Because even if we're not gonna show the

873
00:31:29,754 --> 00:31:31,342
cars, I mean then all of a sudden,

874
00:31:31,834 --> 00:31:33,346
you're giving you the opportunity to,

875
00:31:34,141 --> 00:31:35,653
the player who claims you saw them to

876
00:31:35,653 --> 00:31:37,881
announce 2 cards that he may or may

877
00:31:37,881 --> 00:31:38,358
not have seen.

878
00:31:38,994 --> 00:31:40,449
Yeah. There's just

879
00:31:41,157 --> 00:31:43,640
too many unforeseen consequences. And

880
00:31:44,489 --> 00:31:46,552
in both directions, that's 1 from not showing

881
00:31:46,552 --> 00:31:46,948
the cards.

882
00:31:48,456 --> 00:31:48,694
Yeah.

883
00:31:49,424 --> 00:31:49,924
But

884
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:51,918
on the side of caution

885
00:31:52,694 --> 00:31:54,210
would lead you to not show the cards

886
00:31:54,210 --> 00:31:55,964
as opposed to showing them. Right? You can't

887
00:31:55,964 --> 00:31:58,277
expose everybody's cards who may have may have

888
00:31:58,277 --> 00:32:00,069
been exposed in some

889
00:32:00,849 --> 00:32:02,390
fashion every time

890
00:32:03,649 --> 00:32:04,149
because

891
00:32:05,169 --> 00:32:07,669
we're all human and nobody is perfect. Somebody's

892
00:32:08,144 --> 00:32:09,661
gonna just send their cards in a way

893
00:32:09,661 --> 00:32:11,656
that something catches And the air conditioner might

894
00:32:11,656 --> 00:32:13,811
have been blowing in wrong direction at 1

895
00:32:13,811 --> 00:32:13,971
point.

896
00:32:14,769 --> 00:32:16,386
Somebody might have been walking by

897
00:32:16,939 --> 00:32:18,933
somebody's hand might have gotten away. Somebody might

898
00:32:18,933 --> 00:32:19,332
have sneeze.

899
00:32:19,970 --> 00:32:22,203
I mean, anything could have happened. Right. So

900
00:32:22,203 --> 00:32:23,979
again, yeah. And

901
00:32:25,074 --> 00:32:26,611
automatically turning over cards

902
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,511
immediately with little,

903
00:32:29,782 --> 00:32:31,473
polling or questioning

904
00:32:32,244 --> 00:32:34,388
of the players and dealer at the table

905
00:32:34,388 --> 00:32:34,888
and

906
00:32:35,277 --> 00:32:37,739
Yeah. Generally, not the result we're looking for.

907
00:32:38,295 --> 00:32:41,551
Right. And Click, you... As Elliot pointed out,

908
00:32:41,710 --> 00:32:44,545
you described that situation very well. So

909
00:32:45,298 --> 00:32:47,519
kudos for that. Thanks for sending that in.

910
00:32:48,471 --> 00:32:50,057
If anyone has a call the floor that

911
00:32:50,057 --> 00:32:52,358
they would like Elliott to rule on,

912
00:32:53,087 --> 00:32:55,814
send it to podcast at any at magazine

913
00:32:55,870 --> 00:32:59,528
dot com. And Elliott, you... A bonus points

914
00:32:59,528 --> 00:33:01,038
for the any ups shirt today.

915
00:33:03,605 --> 00:33:04,085
Thank you.

916
00:33:05,125 --> 00:33:06,804
Glad to glad to rep

917
00:33:08,644 --> 00:33:09,764
our find cash. Yeah.

918
00:33:11,139 --> 00:33:13,761
Break it, and, we'll we'll catch you again

919
00:33:13,761 --> 00:33:15,215
next week. Definitely.

920
00:33:18,450 --> 00:33:20,772
Let's break it down with hand of the

921
00:33:20,772 --> 00:33:21,011
week.

922
00:33:24,679 --> 00:33:26,273
We're back with another hand of the week.

923
00:33:26,911 --> 00:33:27,309
Patrick,

924
00:33:28,027 --> 00:33:30,200
how's it going? Am pretty good, man. How's

925
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,880
Vegas? It is hot.

926
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,080
Well, let me let me rephrase that It

927
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,005
is hot out side and cold inside.

928
00:33:40,515 --> 00:33:40,753
Yeah.

929
00:33:41,627 --> 00:33:43,693
I am wearing a hoodie currently because it

930
00:33:43,693 --> 00:33:44,647
is cold inside.

931
00:33:46,256 --> 00:33:47,932
Yeah. That's understandable.

932
00:33:48,730 --> 00:33:50,724
What is the temperature? Like, a hundred and

933
00:33:50,724 --> 00:33:51,043
5.

934
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,255
It's been... Like, yesterday, I think it was

935
00:33:54,255 --> 00:33:55,774
a hundred and 9 a hundred and 10.

936
00:33:57,214 --> 00:33:59,694
Today should be about the same. It was

937
00:33:59,694 --> 00:34:00,595
01:17

938
00:34:00,734 --> 00:34:01,534
when we got here,

939
00:34:03,230 --> 00:34:03,710
01:18.

940
00:34:04,269 --> 00:34:06,910
God. Went... Yeah, 18 the next day? Yeah.

941
00:34:07,630 --> 00:34:08,130
So

942
00:34:08,989 --> 00:34:09,550
count me out.

943
00:34:10,202 --> 00:34:11,952
I'm not upset about it. I love it.

944
00:34:16,087 --> 00:34:16,326
Yep.

945
00:34:16,961 --> 00:34:19,131
Meeting inside count me in for that 1.

946
00:34:20,713 --> 00:34:20,952
Well,

947
00:34:21,827 --> 00:34:22,224
also,

948
00:34:22,939 --> 00:34:23,996
we walked down

949
00:34:25,562 --> 00:34:28,344
up the horseshoe down the hallway to Paris.

950
00:34:29,233 --> 00:34:31,244
And that's where the jackpot digital

951
00:34:31,778 --> 00:34:32,414
tables are.

952
00:34:33,368 --> 00:34:35,833
And Yeah. I have yet to be able

953
00:34:35,833 --> 00:34:37,344
to sit down on them and play.

954
00:34:38,298 --> 00:34:40,693
They've just they've constantly got people on them.

955
00:34:41,644 --> 00:34:42,515
And it's awesome.

956
00:34:43,070 --> 00:34:45,050
Well, you you know what? That's exactly what

957
00:34:45,050 --> 00:34:46,974
we were kinda thinking, So really glad to

958
00:34:46,974 --> 00:34:48,811
hear it For for for those guys for

959
00:34:48,811 --> 00:34:50,649
our guys, but, I mean, I guess people

960
00:34:50,649 --> 00:34:52,407
having fun. They're join it. Yeah. The... This

961
00:34:52,407 --> 00:34:53,845
that's that's 1 thing I will tell you.

962
00:34:54,659 --> 00:34:56,017
Every time I go by there, people are

963
00:34:56,017 --> 00:34:59,133
having a great time with it. So looking

964
00:34:59,133 --> 00:35:00,811
forward to being able to actually get on

965
00:35:00,811 --> 00:35:01,290
there and play.

966
00:35:02,101 --> 00:35:03,771
Maybe I'll have to just go in there

967
00:35:03,771 --> 00:35:05,760
late at night and, you know, the only

968
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,578
1 in the

969
00:35:07,590 --> 00:35:09,356
As as you're gonna head back to the

970
00:35:09,356 --> 00:35:10,790
hotel... As you're getting a head back to

971
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:12,224
the room, You're like, alright. I gotta make

972
00:35:12,224 --> 00:35:13,260
a pin stop and we could see this

973
00:35:13,340 --> 00:35:14,136
What's what this is.

974
00:35:15,013 --> 00:35:16,845
I also just wanna give a shout out

975
00:35:16,845 --> 00:35:18,141
to Bobby Wood junior

976
00:35:18,534 --> 00:35:20,130
before we get too far into the hand

977
00:35:20,130 --> 00:35:21,748
of the week because

978
00:35:22,286 --> 00:35:24,702
just missed when in the home run derby

979
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,756
or at least tying the home run derby.

980
00:35:27,966 --> 00:35:29,102
At least time in the.

981
00:35:29,475 --> 00:35:31,064
Well, I mean, if we're if we're given

982
00:35:31,064 --> 00:35:32,652
our teams, you know, shout outs, you know,

983
00:35:32,732 --> 00:35:34,479
on this. That's it. We can just move

984
00:35:34,479 --> 00:35:37,673
all, not not a baseball podcast, but If

985
00:35:37,673 --> 00:35:39,905
anyone watched the actual All star game the

986
00:35:39,905 --> 00:35:40,623
next night,

987
00:35:41,579 --> 00:35:43,413
you know, the the mid midsummer classic always

988
00:35:43,413 --> 00:35:45,088
has an Mvp, and and I don't know

989
00:35:45,088 --> 00:35:45,725
if you saw.

990
00:35:46,300 --> 00:35:48,619
But then Mvp came from the 1 Boston

991
00:35:48,699 --> 00:35:49,099
Red sox.

992
00:35:49,819 --> 00:35:50,319
So

993
00:35:53,353 --> 00:35:54,253
just saying

994
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:57,262
if if mister Duran is listening, I... You

995
00:35:57,262 --> 00:35:58,458
know, that would be awesome, but,

996
00:35:59,415 --> 00:36:00,213
congratulations to my friend.

997
00:36:00,931 --> 00:36:02,388
That is a great

998
00:36:03,179 --> 00:36:04,213
That's was fun. It was it was a

999
00:36:04,213 --> 00:36:05,644
lot of fun washing in summer classes. And

1000
00:36:05,644 --> 00:36:06,360
now we make a run.

1001
00:36:07,473 --> 00:36:09,302
Yeah. And then you can spend that Probably

1002
00:36:09,382 --> 00:36:11,052
New York, Yankee fans out there.

1003
00:36:12,021 --> 00:36:14,011
Whatever we're coming for you. There you go.

1004
00:36:14,568 --> 00:36:15,046
I like it.

1005
00:36:15,921 --> 00:36:18,309
I like it. Hey. If if both of

1006
00:36:18,309 --> 00:36:20,378
our team wait If both of our teams

1007
00:36:20,378 --> 00:36:22,855
make it in to the the playoffs? Does

1008
00:36:22,855 --> 00:36:24,442
that mean you have to spin the wheel

1009
00:36:24,442 --> 00:36:25,315
punishment twice?

1010
00:36:26,744 --> 00:36:27,062
Twice.

1011
00:36:27,776 --> 00:36:29,522
III think that's the only way. I mean,

1012
00:36:29,602 --> 00:36:31,766
because At at this point, I would spin

1013
00:36:31,766 --> 00:36:33,757
it twice and just for us to have

1014
00:36:33,757 --> 00:36:35,190
both of our teams getting. I like it.

1015
00:36:35,509 --> 00:36:36,066
I think so.

1016
00:36:36,862 --> 00:36:37,101
Yeah.

1017
00:36:37,818 --> 00:36:37,977
Alright.

1018
00:36:38,947 --> 00:36:40,377
Do I get to pre approve what's on

1019
00:36:40,377 --> 00:36:41,568
the punish? Absolutely not.

1020
00:36:43,395 --> 00:36:45,483
That's great. Alright. Maybe I'll stick with 1

1021
00:36:48,664 --> 00:36:49,065
Let's

1022
00:36:49,465 --> 00:36:51,545
let's let's place them poker. Alright. So we've

1023
00:36:51,545 --> 00:36:52,985
got ahead of the week. It's sent in

1024
00:36:52,985 --> 00:36:53,965
by Cali

1025
00:36:54,344 --> 00:36:54,585
Rush.

1026
00:36:55,158 --> 00:36:56,914
I'm assuming that's how you say your name,

1027
00:36:57,233 --> 00:36:58,770
Colin, If not, please

1028
00:36:59,148 --> 00:37:00,765
send me an email and and

1029
00:37:01,222 --> 00:37:04,030
let me know. But CALLAN.

1030
00:37:04,430 --> 00:37:05,388
Call Rush.

1031
00:37:06,266 --> 00:37:07,942
Cow, I gotta tell you. I... I'm going...

1032
00:37:08,182 --> 00:37:09,778
I'm sticking with that. Hardcore. I think that's

1033
00:37:09,778 --> 00:37:12,107
out for now. You have a far name

1034
00:37:12,107 --> 00:37:13,617
than I do. So Appreciate my friend.

1035
00:37:15,047 --> 00:37:17,431
Call... Alright. What's what's our friend playing? Colin

1036
00:37:17,431 --> 00:37:19,155
is playing 1 3. Who

1037
00:37:20,547 --> 00:37:22,717
And he says our stack is 300

1038
00:37:22,853 --> 00:37:25,161
as we just added a hundred dollars to

1039
00:37:25,161 --> 00:37:26,990
top it off before the hand started.

1040
00:37:28,199 --> 00:37:29,795
We had been losing a bunch of small

1041
00:37:29,795 --> 00:37:31,630
pots and not really getting much going.

1042
00:37:33,705 --> 00:37:35,541
K. And he says Villain 1.

1043
00:37:36,114 --> 00:37:37,943
In this hand is under the gun plus

1044
00:37:37,943 --> 00:37:39,614
1 and has 270

1045
00:37:39,614 --> 00:37:40,329
in his stack,

1046
00:37:41,602 --> 00:37:42,818
and Villain 2

1047
00:37:43,367 --> 00:37:46,072
is on the button and has 01:50 in

1048
00:37:46,072 --> 00:37:46,628
his stack.

1049
00:37:47,265 --> 00:37:49,253
K. We're gonna be in the cutoff in

1050
00:37:49,253 --> 00:37:49,731
this hand.

1051
00:37:50,860 --> 00:37:54,604
So K. Villain 1 raises to 10 dollars

1052
00:37:54,604 --> 00:37:55,798
from under the gun plus 1,

1053
00:37:56,674 --> 00:37:58,449
and it folds to us

1054
00:37:59,238 --> 00:38:00,295
in the cutoff

1055
00:38:01,149 --> 00:38:02,445
with the Ace Diamonds

1056
00:38:03,140 --> 00:38:04,255
jack of clubs.

1057
00:38:04,972 --> 00:38:06,406
I love a good billing story.

1058
00:38:08,174 --> 00:38:10,092
10 tough time to be the good guy.

1059
00:38:10,411 --> 00:38:11,929
I think we're I think we're raising this.

1060
00:38:12,409 --> 00:38:13,608
I think we're raising it. I think we're

1061
00:38:13,608 --> 00:38:14,667
raising it, tom

1062
00:38:15,286 --> 00:38:15,845
35.

1063
00:38:16,815 --> 00:38:19,120
You you like that Ace diamonds jacket clubs.

1064
00:38:19,836 --> 00:38:21,505
I like that Ace diamonds Jack clubs, and

1065
00:38:21,585 --> 00:38:22,459
I wanna get rid of at least 1

1066
00:38:22,459 --> 00:38:22,936
of these guys.

1067
00:38:24,862 --> 00:38:27,177
Yeah. III guess the problem is under the

1068
00:38:27,177 --> 00:38:27,816
again plus 1.

1069
00:38:28,694 --> 00:38:30,551
It's gonna have a lot of strong hands

1070
00:38:30,849 --> 00:38:32,627
in their range. So

1071
00:38:33,259 --> 00:38:33,498
Yep.

1072
00:38:35,650 --> 00:38:37,404
Sounds like we've been bleeding chips for a

1073
00:38:37,404 --> 00:38:40,114
while. So... And that's why we topped off

1074
00:38:40,114 --> 00:38:40,831
our stack. Right?

1075
00:38:41,802 --> 00:38:43,471
So that's a good point. I don't really

1076
00:38:43,471 --> 00:38:44,663
wanna go crazy here.

1077
00:38:45,935 --> 00:38:48,160
I'm fine I'm fine with a... Just a

1078
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,227
call and hope we just smash the flop.

1079
00:38:50,798 --> 00:38:52,463
That's that's what I'm gonna go with. Fair.

1080
00:38:53,177 --> 00:38:55,025
We've got good position. So

1081
00:38:55,397 --> 00:38:55,897
Call

1082
00:38:56,825 --> 00:38:58,014
calls as well.

1083
00:38:59,536 --> 00:39:02,313
Cup. As does the 2 on the button.

1084
00:39:02,788 --> 00:39:04,637
So we go to the flop, 3 handed

1085
00:39:05,819 --> 00:39:06,319
and

1086
00:39:06,856 --> 00:39:08,930
what 34 dollars in the pot.

1087
00:39:10,684 --> 00:39:13,418
The flop is the 7 of Diamonds

1088
00:39:14,274 --> 00:39:15,332
queen of spade

1089
00:39:16,439 --> 00:39:17,392
jack of diamonds.

1090
00:39:18,266 --> 00:39:19,323
Villain 1

1091
00:39:19,856 --> 00:39:21,071
bets 15

1092
00:39:21,922 --> 00:39:22,637
and is on us.

1093
00:39:25,530 --> 00:39:27,369
15, a little less than half pot.

1094
00:39:29,210 --> 00:39:30,110
Pair our jacks

1095
00:39:30,425 --> 00:39:31,704
Patrick's feeling aggressive.

1096
00:39:33,144 --> 00:39:35,304
I am feeling aggressive today because I wanna

1097
00:39:35,304 --> 00:39:36,025
come over the top.

1098
00:39:36,985 --> 00:39:39,005
But that being said, I I don't

1099
00:39:39,958 --> 00:39:41,393
I don't want too just yet. I would

1100
00:39:41,393 --> 00:39:41,952
probably call.

1101
00:39:42,829 --> 00:39:44,903
Yeah. I think we this call here. We

1102
00:39:44,903 --> 00:39:47,716
have bottom pair backdoor diamonds

1103
00:39:49,702 --> 00:39:52,083
we're definitely not folding, obviously, but I don't

1104
00:39:52,083 --> 00:39:53,456
wanna go crazy. So

1105
00:39:54,385 --> 00:39:55,814
I think it's... A call is good.

1106
00:39:57,179 --> 00:39:58,237
Yeah. And

1107
00:39:59,573 --> 00:40:00,690
that's what Cali does.

1108
00:40:02,127 --> 00:40:04,282
K. And Villain 2 calls as well.

1109
00:40:05,254 --> 00:40:06,769
So the pots getting up there now at

1110
00:40:06,769 --> 00:40:07,647
79 dollars,

1111
00:40:08,843 --> 00:40:11,396
and the turn is the king of diamonds.

1112
00:40:12,273 --> 00:40:14,506
Now Villain 1 checks.

1113
00:40:15,318 --> 00:40:16,989
See, I don't like that. I should like

1114
00:40:16,989 --> 00:40:18,182
that, but I don't. And let me tell

1115
00:40:18,182 --> 00:40:20,194
you why. Yes. We have the A diamond

1116
00:40:20,330 --> 00:40:20,489
great.

1117
00:40:21,523 --> 00:40:22,023
But

1118
00:40:22,398 --> 00:40:23,751
now we've got even more hope.

1119
00:40:25,121 --> 00:40:26,556
And hope can be a bad thing.

1120
00:40:29,108 --> 00:40:31,101
And I'm a glass half guy. Let me

1121
00:40:31,101 --> 00:40:31,420
tell you.

1122
00:40:33,188 --> 00:40:34,938
You said Villain 1 check to us. Correct?

1123
00:40:35,176 --> 00:40:35,414
Yeah.

1124
00:40:36,925 --> 00:40:38,595
I think I'm gonna check a right around.

1125
00:40:39,072 --> 00:40:40,662
I... I'm not gonna fall. I mean, if

1126
00:40:40,821 --> 00:40:41,719
I I don't

1127
00:40:43,383 --> 00:40:45,617
you know, big pocket pair. They got queens.

1128
00:40:46,414 --> 00:40:48,111
They've got aces. They had

1129
00:40:48,807 --> 00:40:49,446
ace king,

1130
00:40:51,135 --> 00:40:51,613
diamonds.

1131
00:40:52,091 --> 00:40:55,359
There's... I mean, not playing conservative wise. However,

1132
00:40:56,395 --> 00:40:57,431
I I can make them on a pretty

1133
00:40:57,431 --> 00:41:00,471
good hand. So is the the the check

1134
00:41:00,471 --> 00:41:00,971
being

1135
00:41:02,222 --> 00:41:03,756
just bait us. So

1136
00:41:04,132 --> 00:41:06,360
I... I'm following that up again. Yeah.

1137
00:41:07,885 --> 00:41:09,554
I think my biggest thing is you sound

1138
00:41:09,554 --> 00:41:11,302
like you've got a different thought process. No.

1139
00:41:11,540 --> 00:41:13,606
I I think I wanna check, but I

1140
00:41:13,606 --> 00:41:16,013
think just my reasoning is a little different,

1141
00:41:16,402 --> 00:41:18,307
we've got that person. Okay. We've got that

1142
00:41:18,307 --> 00:41:20,768
player left to act after us. Right?

1143
00:41:21,483 --> 00:41:21,721
Yeah.

1144
00:41:22,515 --> 00:41:23,467
If we were heads up,

1145
00:41:24,515 --> 00:41:25,788
then I would put some money in.

1146
00:41:27,060 --> 00:41:28,116
But since we're

1147
00:41:29,365 --> 00:41:31,035
we're kinda caught in the middle here so

1148
00:41:31,035 --> 00:41:31,433
to speak.

1149
00:41:33,274 --> 00:41:34,329
I'm just gonna

1150
00:41:35,496 --> 00:41:36,448
I'm just gonna check,

1151
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:38,352
see what happens.

1152
00:41:39,638 --> 00:41:39,956
And...

1153
00:41:40,912 --> 00:41:43,620
K. Let's see Cali checks as well. Before

1154
00:41:43,620 --> 00:41:44,735
we go for any further,

1155
00:41:45,771 --> 00:41:47,841
this is not to validate my thought process

1156
00:41:47,841 --> 00:41:49,286
earlier I might have been a wee bit

1157
00:41:49,286 --> 00:41:51,507
aggressive there. But to start, you said if

1158
00:41:51,507 --> 00:41:52,300
we were playing heads up,

1159
00:41:53,093 --> 00:41:54,600
you think at this point in the way

1160
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:55,100
that

1161
00:41:55,488 --> 00:41:56,757
got it's kinda flow. Could we we've have

1162
00:41:56,757 --> 00:41:58,844
gotten 1 of these guys heads probably not

1163
00:41:59,614 --> 00:42:01,518
bill 1 in under the gun. Right. But

1164
00:42:01,518 --> 00:42:02,312
the button maybe?

1165
00:42:02,883 --> 00:42:04,954
Never know. Yeah. We we probably could've got

1166
00:42:04,954 --> 00:42:06,229
them away. Yeah. For sure.

1167
00:42:07,583 --> 00:42:07,743
Okay.

1168
00:42:08,460 --> 00:42:10,704
Something to think about, but yeah I'm not

1169
00:42:10,704 --> 00:42:11,181
always right.

1170
00:42:11,977 --> 00:42:14,045
The problem is the problem is you have

1171
00:42:14,045 --> 00:42:16,193
to weigh that. Right? You have to weigh

1172
00:42:16,193 --> 00:42:16,853
it with

1173
00:42:17,483 --> 00:42:20,115
Okay. I got this 1 person out and

1174
00:42:20,115 --> 00:42:22,507
we're heads up now, but that we bloated

1175
00:42:22,507 --> 00:42:23,305
the pot. Right?

1176
00:42:24,103 --> 00:42:26,016
Which in this case, Yeah. In this case,

1177
00:42:27,146 --> 00:42:29,054
probably wouldn't be bad since he checked to

1178
00:42:29,054 --> 00:42:29,871
us, but

1179
00:42:31,597 --> 00:42:33,583
I don't know. In the moment, I felt

1180
00:42:33,583 --> 00:42:34,083
like

1181
00:42:34,871 --> 00:42:37,182
that would be a mistake, Not a mistake,

1182
00:42:37,422 --> 00:42:38,856
but not the way I wanted to go

1183
00:42:38,856 --> 00:42:39,175
for sure.

1184
00:42:39,972 --> 00:42:42,699
Sure. Yeah. No. That makes sense. So alright.

1185
00:42:42,940 --> 00:42:45,119
So we check calendar checked

1186
00:42:45,579 --> 00:42:46,780
button checked. Correct?

1187
00:42:47,579 --> 00:42:48,699
No. Villain 2.

1188
00:42:49,420 --> 00:42:50,539
Bets 40 dollars.

1189
00:42:51,673 --> 00:42:54,776
Oof, there you go. That literally is exactly

1190
00:42:54,776 --> 00:42:55,492
why you did not.

1191
00:42:56,208 --> 00:42:57,798
And Villain 1 calls.

1192
00:42:59,485 --> 00:42:59,724
So...

1193
00:43:01,158 --> 00:43:02,432
Yeah. Is right.

1194
00:43:04,742 --> 00:43:06,335
There's a lot. There's a lot can be

1195
00:43:06,335 --> 00:43:07,233
sad by

1196
00:43:10,257 --> 00:43:10,655
well,

1197
00:43:11,453 --> 00:43:14,107
that's a pretty big portion of Villain two's

1198
00:43:14,244 --> 00:43:14,484
stack.

1199
00:43:15,122 --> 00:43:16,797
He started the hand with a hundred and

1200
00:43:16,797 --> 00:43:17,276
50 bucks.

1201
00:43:17,927 --> 00:43:18,245
Yeah.

1202
00:43:19,039 --> 00:43:21,580
So he's going even more, and we're on

1203
00:43:21,580 --> 00:43:23,192
a we're on a diamond

1204
00:43:23,724 --> 00:43:26,289
draw. Well, and we also have

1205
00:43:27,393 --> 00:43:29,623
We have jacks. I don't feel so good

1206
00:43:29,623 --> 00:43:31,296
about the Jacks now. That's lot better when

1207
00:43:31,376 --> 00:43:34,164
I was holding just those 2II

1208
00:43:34,164 --> 00:43:36,728
think think III

1209
00:43:36,728 --> 00:43:37,364
think I'm folding.

1210
00:43:38,478 --> 00:43:38,876
Really?

1211
00:43:39,512 --> 00:43:42,376
Because I am, I went from very aggressive

1212
00:43:42,376 --> 00:43:44,046
to start this hand too. I just wanna

1213
00:43:44,046 --> 00:43:44,842
play the next hand.

1214
00:43:45,414 --> 00:43:46,850
And a very quick about of.

1215
00:43:47,887 --> 00:43:48,387
But

1216
00:43:48,764 --> 00:43:50,598
you tell me how wrong my mindset is.

1217
00:43:50,758 --> 00:43:52,672
Well, I I mean, we've got the the

1218
00:43:52,672 --> 00:43:54,608
nut flash draw. We're not... I'm not going

1219
00:43:54,746 --> 00:43:54,905
anywhere.

1220
00:43:56,673 --> 00:43:59,698
Really. Yeah. We got middle pair and the

1221
00:43:59,698 --> 00:44:00,414
nut flush draw.

1222
00:44:01,051 --> 00:44:02,007
I don't wanna raise,

1223
00:44:02,484 --> 00:44:02,984
but

1224
00:44:04,014 --> 00:44:05,051
I'm not going anywhere.

1225
00:44:05,770 --> 00:44:05,929
I...

1226
00:44:06,887 --> 00:44:09,362
Yeah. No. I can't I can't let lay

1227
00:44:09,362 --> 00:44:11,039
down the numbers call.

1228
00:44:11,996 --> 00:44:12,396
Fair enough.

1229
00:44:13,128 --> 00:44:14,976
So, yeah, I'm calling. You're folding

1230
00:44:15,588 --> 00:44:17,095
call calls as well.

1231
00:44:18,444 --> 00:44:19,873
Colin and I have been on the same

1232
00:44:19,873 --> 00:44:20,849
page. This whole

1233
00:44:21,954 --> 00:44:24,112
this whole. On everything. Yeah. On every last

1234
00:44:24,112 --> 00:44:24,431
1 of them.

1235
00:44:25,790 --> 00:44:28,347
The pot now is what, a hundred and

1236
00:44:28,347 --> 00:44:31,405
99 dollars or something. And the river is

1237
00:44:31,638 --> 00:44:33,330
the 10 of diamonds.

1238
00:44:34,339 --> 00:44:35,134
Cali says,

1239
00:44:35,928 --> 00:44:37,755
he's got the little asterisk in there and

1240
00:44:37,755 --> 00:44:38,232
says note.

1241
00:44:38,884 --> 00:44:40,319
This is where it gets weird.

1242
00:44:42,234 --> 00:44:43,749
Oh my gosh. How

1243
00:44:44,945 --> 00:44:46,700
Alright. He says, and I don't know how

1244
00:44:46,700 --> 00:44:47,577
to play this spot.

1245
00:44:49,588 --> 00:44:51,743
After check calling the previous street.

1246
00:44:52,701 --> 00:44:54,558
Villain 1 now leads out

1247
00:44:55,575 --> 00:44:57,012
for only 12 dollars.

1248
00:44:58,383 --> 00:45:01,273
Into a part of almost 212

1249
00:45:01,888 --> 00:45:02,127
12.

1250
00:45:02,924 --> 00:45:04,677
And he had 2 70 to start with.

1251
00:45:04,916 --> 00:45:05,814
So he he's got

1252
00:45:06,270 --> 00:45:07,306
still chips in his hand.

1253
00:45:07,958 --> 00:45:08,995
12:12

1254
00:45:08,995 --> 00:45:11,069
dollars. Now, keep in mind say what when

1255
00:45:11,069 --> 00:45:11,468
we're talking.

1256
00:45:12,186 --> 00:45:13,780
Yeah. Say what we're talking. Go ahead.

1257
00:45:14,658 --> 00:45:17,130
12 dollars into a pot of 1 99.

1258
00:45:17,623 --> 00:45:17,703
Okay.

1259
00:45:18,579 --> 00:45:20,411
Alright. Keep in mind, what? Keep in mind,

1260
00:45:20,570 --> 00:45:22,641
we have the nut flush, but we do

1261
00:45:22,641 --> 00:45:25,190
not have we do. There's at least, yeah.

1262
00:45:25,509 --> 00:45:26,248
Queen 9

1263
00:45:26,798 --> 00:45:28,150
Queen 9 is a straight flush.

1264
00:45:29,105 --> 00:45:30,775
Queen 9 of diamonds. Oh, yeah.

1265
00:45:31,570 --> 00:45:32,605
Is a straight flush.

1266
00:45:34,131 --> 00:45:35,881
And I think I have to go back

1267
00:45:35,881 --> 00:45:37,552
and look here, but I think 9 8

1268
00:45:37,552 --> 00:45:39,540
of diamonds is also a straight flush on

1269
00:45:39,540 --> 00:45:40,097
the other side.

1270
00:45:40,986 --> 00:45:43,525
It is 7 diamonds, 8 diamonds not a...

1271
00:45:43,684 --> 00:45:47,097
Yet because there's 7 there's 7 jack... 07:10

1272
00:45:47,097 --> 00:45:48,763
jack king of diamonds on the board.

1273
00:45:49,574 --> 00:45:51,092
So you're right. We don't have the nines.

1274
00:45:51,492 --> 00:45:51,992
So

1275
00:45:52,451 --> 00:45:54,928
now, are they betting super tiny to get

1276
00:45:54,928 --> 00:45:55,727
chips in the pot?

1277
00:45:56,446 --> 00:45:59,250
Yeah. I mean, I Again, like, Colin called

1278
00:45:59,250 --> 00:46:01,558
it, like, that's weird. That's a weird bet.

1279
00:46:01,876 --> 00:46:03,627
That is a hundred percent of weird bet.

1280
00:46:04,423 --> 00:46:05,537
I don't know what to do on that.

1281
00:46:06,094 --> 00:46:06,333
And.

1282
00:46:08,178 --> 00:46:09,610
I think I I think if I was

1283
00:46:09,610 --> 00:46:11,441
actually playing in this game, I would look

1284
00:46:11,441 --> 00:46:12,714
at the guy and be like, did you

1285
00:46:12,714 --> 00:46:14,146
mean to put more in? Right.

1286
00:46:15,101 --> 00:46:16,945
I think I might say that. Out loud.

1287
00:46:17,818 --> 00:46:19,405
I I don't know. Joe, What are you

1288
00:46:19,405 --> 00:46:19,802
gonna do?

1289
00:46:20,516 --> 00:46:22,182
I know I only go first, but I

1290
00:46:22,182 --> 00:46:24,405
don't know. There's there's only 2 hands that

1291
00:46:24,405 --> 00:46:24,643
beat us.

1292
00:46:26,405 --> 00:46:27,938
This 2 straight flush

1293
00:46:28,391 --> 00:46:30,298
that are possible are the only ones that

1294
00:46:30,298 --> 00:46:32,840
are gonna beat us. Which are significantly low

1295
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:33,476
percentage of holding.

1296
00:46:34,206 --> 00:46:36,432
I feel like this is some kind of

1297
00:46:36,432 --> 00:46:37,782
blocker bet, like,

1298
00:46:38,577 --> 00:46:40,881
trying to get us to not bet big.

1299
00:46:41,532 --> 00:46:42,032
So

1300
00:46:42,884 --> 00:46:44,235
what do you do when you feel like

1301
00:46:44,235 --> 00:46:45,666
somebody is trying to get you to go

1302
00:46:45,666 --> 00:46:47,335
1 direction, you go the other?

1303
00:46:48,051 --> 00:46:49,059
So I'm gonna race

1304
00:46:49,577 --> 00:46:50,693
Yeah. How big?

1305
00:46:53,481 --> 00:46:55,393
So we could get cute. Right? We could

1306
00:46:55,393 --> 00:46:57,225
just men raise them and be like, oh,

1307
00:46:57,384 --> 00:46:59,234
you wanna put in 12. Fine. I put

1308
00:46:59,234 --> 00:46:59,953
in 24.

1309
00:47:01,391 --> 00:47:03,228
Start start playing a head game.

1310
00:47:04,027 --> 00:47:06,239
But... Alright. I think III

1311
00:47:06,994 --> 00:47:08,425
because we have that other player in there,

1312
00:47:08,664 --> 00:47:10,174
I don't think I wanna do that. I

1313
00:47:10,174 --> 00:47:12,717
think I, I'll probably just... Although if you

1314
00:47:12,717 --> 00:47:14,148
do that, then maybe you get them to

1315
00:47:14,148 --> 00:47:15,102
put their chips in too.

1316
00:47:15,992 --> 00:47:16,492
I

1317
00:47:17,187 --> 00:47:18,621
I'm gonna I'm gonna get a weird way.

1318
00:47:18,859 --> 00:47:20,691
That does sound like a great idea. Right?

1319
00:47:22,523 --> 00:47:24,297
My my my gut

1320
00:47:24,928 --> 00:47:27,403
initially was to put in 45 dollars, though.

1321
00:47:28,999 --> 00:47:30,755
Okay. But that would be kind of a

1322
00:47:30,755 --> 00:47:32,911
fun way to get more chips in there.

1323
00:47:34,281 --> 00:47:35,795
Might change my mind. I think I... Yeah.

1324
00:47:36,034 --> 00:47:37,787
I'm just gonna put it... Just men raise

1325
00:47:37,787 --> 00:47:37,947
it.

1326
00:47:40,496 --> 00:47:42,568
That's phenomenal. 24 it is.

1327
00:47:44,887 --> 00:47:46,156
What do what about you? Is that what

1328
00:47:46,156 --> 00:47:48,932
you're doing? What what... I mean, I had

1329
00:47:48,932 --> 00:47:50,281
bigger in my head. I mean, you said

1330
00:47:50,281 --> 00:47:50,774
45.

1331
00:47:51,094 --> 00:47:53,091
I had somewhere in that 40 ish range

1332
00:47:53,091 --> 00:47:53,991
in my head

1333
00:47:54,450 --> 00:47:54,769
of,

1334
00:47:56,047 --> 00:47:57,806
it it... That's threw me. I mean, it

1335
00:47:57,806 --> 00:47:59,572
really threw me. You're right. We don't have

1336
00:47:59,572 --> 00:48:02,113
the nuts, but we sure do feel pretty

1337
00:48:02,113 --> 00:48:03,702
good about our hands. So, I mean, I

1338
00:48:03,702 --> 00:48:04,019
had...

1339
00:48:04,734 --> 00:48:06,402
Yeah. Like I said, I was somewhere in

1340
00:48:06,402 --> 00:48:08,882
that you know, lower 40 range anyways.

1341
00:48:09,518 --> 00:48:10,869
I'd still stick with that. I don't know.

1342
00:48:11,188 --> 00:48:13,517
I'm not I'm not cute enough to do

1343
00:48:13,812 --> 00:48:15,164
and mess with them that way.

1344
00:48:17,169 --> 00:48:19,167
What it I'd, I can't wait through this.

1345
00:48:19,327 --> 00:48:20,925
I what a calendar it. Well, before I

1346
00:48:20,925 --> 00:48:22,044
get to that, let me let me just

1347
00:48:22,044 --> 00:48:23,962
say if you do put in a bed

1348
00:48:23,962 --> 00:48:25,081
of 45

1349
00:48:25,081 --> 00:48:26,440
some... Or in that 40 range.

1350
00:48:27,492 --> 00:48:29,885
And Yeah. They come over the top.

1351
00:48:30,683 --> 00:48:33,316
The good news is they can't come too

1352
00:48:33,316 --> 00:48:36,207
far and, like, they only have, like, a

1353
00:48:36,207 --> 00:48:37,645
pot size bet left.

1354
00:48:38,923 --> 00:48:41,980
So Right. So I feel like even

1355
00:48:42,294 --> 00:48:44,950
putting in the 40 dollar 45 dollar

1356
00:48:45,727 --> 00:48:46,206
range.

1357
00:48:47,084 --> 00:48:47,903
If they

1358
00:48:48,681 --> 00:48:49,080
shove,

1359
00:48:50,038 --> 00:48:51,076
we can still call.

1360
00:48:52,287 --> 00:48:53,878
Right. Yeah. I don't think it's... I don't

1361
00:48:53,878 --> 00:48:54,753
think that's too bad.

1362
00:48:56,265 --> 00:48:58,594
That it, Call just calls

1363
00:48:59,701 --> 00:49:02,009
and the button does too. Called the. He

1364
00:49:02,009 --> 00:49:03,203
just called the 12 dollars.

1365
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:04,954
All that's hilarious.

1366
00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:08,240
The villain shows the queen of Diamonds

1367
00:49:09,188 --> 00:49:10,306
10 of spade.

1368
00:49:11,103 --> 00:49:13,598
So they blocked 1 of the straight flush

1369
00:49:13,975 --> 00:49:15,890
ended up with a smaller flush than us.

1370
00:49:16,620 --> 00:49:18,206
And fill too mu to their cards.

1371
00:49:18,919 --> 00:49:22,272
So Cali question is did I miss value

1372
00:49:22,327 --> 00:49:22,961
on the river?

1373
00:49:24,088 --> 00:49:26,001
Am I gonna get called by worse hands

1374
00:49:26,001 --> 00:49:27,275
on the river if I race?

1375
00:49:27,913 --> 00:49:30,543
III mean, My gut reaction is yes. You

1376
00:49:30,543 --> 00:49:31,101
probably did.

1377
00:49:31,674 --> 00:49:33,188
That us is also coming from the guy

1378
00:49:33,188 --> 00:49:35,418
that wanted to lead out really, really big,

1379
00:49:35,578 --> 00:49:37,273
and then I ended up folding

1380
00:49:38,047 --> 00:49:38,606
the flush.

1381
00:49:39,575 --> 00:49:41,188
So, you know, take my

1382
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,391
input with a grain of salt here today.

1383
00:49:45,379 --> 00:49:48,003
But, yeah. III guess the the the short

1384
00:49:48,003 --> 00:49:50,411
and quicken answer is, yes you probably did,

1385
00:49:50,650 --> 00:49:52,007
but it's more or less of how...

1386
00:49:52,885 --> 00:49:54,801
I mean, if you come out, you know,

1387
00:49:54,961 --> 00:49:56,238
12 dollars to us and you come out

1388
00:49:56,238 --> 00:49:57,755
and you do 45 like you said, Joe.

1389
00:49:58,249 --> 00:50:00,796
Is that guy calling? Yeah. Seeing his cars

1390
00:50:00,796 --> 00:50:02,786
now. He's got Queens? Yeah.

1391
00:50:03,423 --> 00:50:03,923
Probably...

1392
00:50:04,776 --> 00:50:07,023
It he's probably calling that. It's to see.

1393
00:50:07,182 --> 00:50:09,496
Yeah. It's tough to get value from some

1394
00:50:09,496 --> 00:50:11,513
of the hands, but I think in this

1395
00:50:11,891 --> 00:50:12,530
specific hand,

1396
00:50:13,328 --> 00:50:14,365
that you're getting called.

1397
00:50:14,940 --> 00:50:17,280
But I guess my my question

1398
00:50:17,659 --> 00:50:18,880
is more of

1399
00:50:19,900 --> 00:50:21,099
why does that matter?

1400
00:50:22,793 --> 00:50:24,011
So if

1401
00:50:24,787 --> 00:50:26,621
if you are willing to put in the

1402
00:50:26,621 --> 00:50:27,121
4

1403
00:50:27,659 --> 00:50:28,376
big blinds,

1404
00:50:29,812 --> 00:50:31,429
if you raise

1405
00:50:32,779 --> 00:50:34,378
what are you missing out on?

1406
00:50:36,135 --> 00:50:36,635
Because

1407
00:50:37,254 --> 00:50:39,332
you either got the 4 big blinds from

1408
00:50:39,332 --> 00:50:42,224
them or you if they folded, you still

1409
00:50:42,224 --> 00:50:44,164
got the 4 big blinds from them

1410
00:50:44,545 --> 00:50:46,464
with the potential of getting more.

1411
00:50:47,424 --> 00:50:47,924
So

1412
00:50:48,625 --> 00:50:50,724
I I don't think that

1413
00:50:51,278 --> 00:50:53,371
I I just don't I don't understand

1414
00:50:53,826 --> 00:50:55,998
what you're worried about there as far as

1415
00:50:57,409 --> 00:50:59,001
getting value. If they fold,

1416
00:50:59,494 --> 00:51:01,484
you still won the 4 big blinds,

1417
00:51:02,519 --> 00:51:04,690
which is what you did when you called

1418
00:51:04,987 --> 00:51:06,898
won the 4 big blinds. Now if you're

1419
00:51:06,898 --> 00:51:09,455
worried about whether or not they had the

1420
00:51:09,455 --> 00:51:10,091
straight flush.

1421
00:51:11,123 --> 00:51:11,838
Okay. Fine.

1422
00:51:12,553 --> 00:51:12,950
But, yeah,

1423
00:51:13,744 --> 00:51:16,786
from that standpoint, you definitely missed out on

1424
00:51:17,492 --> 00:51:17,992
value.

1425
00:51:18,367 --> 00:51:19,003
Yeah. You're right.

1426
00:51:21,229 --> 00:51:22,501
Either way, you took it down.

1427
00:51:23,932 --> 00:51:25,284
Either way, you took it down Take it

1428
00:51:25,284 --> 00:51:26,238
down, and

1429
00:51:27,209 --> 00:51:28,807
and you send it to us in 1

1430
00:51:28,807 --> 00:51:29,287
of the...

1431
00:51:31,045 --> 00:51:32,904
I would say top 5 strange

1432
00:51:33,283 --> 00:51:35,201
actual 8 dollar bets that we've seen.

1433
00:51:37,370 --> 00:51:39,519
1 90 out of the pot, I bet

1434
00:51:39,519 --> 00:51:40,394
12. Yeah.

1435
00:51:41,907 --> 00:51:43,680
I love it. If he would've have

1436
00:51:44,627 --> 00:51:46,695
jammed, I think we would had to call

1437
00:51:46,695 --> 00:51:47,807
too though. Yeah.

1438
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:50,431
Either the way. I think you have to.

1439
00:51:50,590 --> 00:51:52,260
In that case, it would've worked out, but

1440
00:51:52,340 --> 00:51:53,453
I think you have to either way.

1441
00:51:54,183 --> 00:51:55,932
I mean, I think, I I... Ultimately, you

1442
00:51:55,932 --> 00:51:56,489
know, the the...

1443
00:51:57,284 --> 00:51:58,659
Yeah. Got weird for

1444
00:51:59,193 --> 00:52:00,624
for you, Call, but I think you played

1445
00:52:00,624 --> 00:52:03,187
it very well across the board. Yeah. Yeah.

1446
00:52:03,506 --> 00:52:05,502
So. You you happen to play it well

1447
00:52:05,502 --> 00:52:05,661
too.

1448
00:52:06,539 --> 00:52:08,535
Credit crazy. I played it the same as

1449
00:52:08,615 --> 00:52:10,211
Call for the most part until we got

1450
00:52:10,211 --> 00:52:10,610
to the end.

1451
00:52:12,063 --> 00:52:13,901
So Yeah. They you go. And you probably

1452
00:52:13,901 --> 00:52:15,579
would have... I mean, in that case,

1453
00:52:16,298 --> 00:52:17,657
you may or might not have actually ended

1454
00:52:17,657 --> 00:52:19,095
up getting any anymore out of it, but...

1455
00:52:19,747 --> 00:52:21,340
Probably, but that being said,

1456
00:52:22,056 --> 00:52:24,605
cal all done. Good hand. Yep. And if

1457
00:52:24,605 --> 00:52:25,958
anyone else has a hand of the week

1458
00:52:25,958 --> 00:52:27,472
that they would like Patrick and on a

1459
00:52:27,472 --> 00:52:27,631
down,

1460
00:52:28,284 --> 00:52:30,682
send it to podcast at n at magazine

1461
00:52:30,682 --> 00:52:31,081
dot com.

1462
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:32,520
Patrick.

1463
00:52:33,319 --> 00:52:34,997
Let's see this again next week. Coming me

1464
00:52:34,997 --> 00:52:35,157
in.

1465
00:52:37,075 --> 00:52:37,989
Thanks. God.

1466
00:52:45,226 --> 00:52:47,791
And so ends another world series poker.

1467
00:52:49,062 --> 00:52:51,309
That bitter sweet moment where dreams are made

1468
00:52:51,682 --> 00:52:52,714
and hearts are broken.

1469
00:52:53,746 --> 00:52:55,986
The final hand has been dealt the chips

1470
00:52:55,986 --> 00:52:59,567
are packed away and the once bustling halls

1471
00:52:59,567 --> 00:53:01,578
of the horseshoe and Paris are

1472
00:53:02,033 --> 00:53:02,908
ee quiet.

1473
00:53:04,673 --> 00:53:07,368
During the summer, the W sop is the

1474
00:53:07,368 --> 00:53:09,112
epicenter of the poker universe.

1475
00:53:10,381 --> 00:53:12,070
It's a magical place where

1476
00:53:12,458 --> 00:53:14,923
The only thing louder than the shuffle of

1477
00:53:14,923 --> 00:53:17,787
cards is the collective sound of players mu.

1478
00:53:19,139 --> 00:53:20,411
How did he call that?

1479
00:53:22,731 --> 00:53:24,343
It's a time when players are either

1480
00:53:24,717 --> 00:53:26,806
riding high on their chip stacks or

1481
00:53:27,418 --> 00:53:28,768
low on their bank roles.

1482
00:53:29,819 --> 00:53:32,775
But no one's thinking about the aftermath, then

1483
00:53:32,775 --> 00:53:33,174
suddenly,

1484
00:53:34,133 --> 00:53:34,692
it's over.

1485
00:53:35,731 --> 00:53:36,370
For the winners,

1486
00:53:37,264 --> 00:53:39,025
the end of the W p is like

1487
00:53:39,025 --> 00:53:41,264
winning the lottery. I mean, you get to

1488
00:53:41,264 --> 00:53:43,425
hold up that bracelet or ba in the

1489
00:53:43,425 --> 00:53:44,545
glory of your victory,

1490
00:53:45,199 --> 00:53:47,857
and post for those awkward photos with

1491
00:53:48,635 --> 00:53:51,112
large stacks of cash that... Let's be honest,

1492
00:53:51,432 --> 00:53:53,510
you'll never see all in 1 place again.

1493
00:53:55,116 --> 00:53:56,864
It's a time to celebrate. Right?

1494
00:53:58,534 --> 00:53:59,646
But for every winner,

1495
00:54:00,918 --> 00:54:02,768
there are thousands of players

1496
00:54:03,159 --> 00:54:06,355
heading home with lighter pockets and shattered dreams.

1497
00:54:07,473 --> 00:54:09,791
Their stories are a bit less glamorous.

1498
00:54:11,164 --> 00:54:13,342
They head back to their day jobs, their

1499
00:54:13,561 --> 00:54:17,018
online grind or the nearest cash game determined

1500
00:54:17,157 --> 00:54:18,995
to win back their buy in.

1501
00:54:19,967 --> 00:54:22,673
The world series is referred to as summer

1502
00:54:22,673 --> 00:54:24,288
camp for adults. And

1503
00:54:24,823 --> 00:54:27,291
the final moments are further proof of that.

1504
00:54:28,583 --> 00:54:29,083
You've

1505
00:54:29,622 --> 00:54:31,460
made friends from around the world,

1506
00:54:32,259 --> 00:54:34,437
shared laughs, bad beats, and

1507
00:54:34,817 --> 00:54:36,335
way too many energy drinks.

1508
00:54:37,307 --> 00:54:38,344
Saying goodbye is heart.

1509
00:54:39,381 --> 00:54:42,332
The bonds formed over the felt are real.

1510
00:54:42,810 --> 00:54:45,123
Even if you only remember each other by

1511
00:54:45,123 --> 00:54:46,181
your screen names

1512
00:54:46,494 --> 00:54:48,428
and a vague description, like

1513
00:54:49,203 --> 00:54:50,558
that guy with the weird hat.

1514
00:54:52,311 --> 00:54:53,666
As the players file out,

1515
00:54:54,558 --> 00:54:55,675
there's a mix of emotions.

1516
00:54:56,553 --> 00:54:57,691
Relief because

1517
00:54:58,148 --> 00:55:01,021
your body cannot handle another 14 hour day.

1518
00:55:01,513 --> 00:55:03,917
Fueled solely by caffeine and adrenaline

1519
00:55:05,004 --> 00:55:05,504
sadness

1520
00:55:06,194 --> 00:55:09,209
because you're leaving behind the cam and excitement.

1521
00:55:09,938 --> 00:55:12,585
And let's face it also dread because

1522
00:55:13,516 --> 00:55:15,686
now you have to face the reality that

1523
00:55:16,378 --> 00:55:18,605
there's not another chance for a bracelet tomorrow.

1524
00:55:20,929 --> 00:55:23,160
Returning to normalcy after the W is like,

1525
00:55:23,957 --> 00:55:26,347
coming back from a vacation where you got

1526
00:55:26,347 --> 00:55:26,847
sunburn

1527
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,228
just enough to be a constant reminder of

1528
00:55:29,228 --> 00:55:30,501
the fun that you had on the trip.

1529
00:55:31,694 --> 00:55:33,228
Regular poker nights feel

1530
00:55:33,603 --> 00:55:35,354
tame now, almost mundane.

1531
00:55:36,802 --> 00:55:39,036
You missed the high stakes drama, the bad

1532
00:55:39,036 --> 00:55:41,769
beat stories that could fill a novel and

1533
00:55:42,067 --> 00:55:45,097
the constant quest for that elusive bracelet.

1534
00:55:46,944 --> 00:55:49,963
You also miss the W p's unique culture,

1535
00:55:50,679 --> 00:55:53,324
the eccentric personalities, the colorful language

1536
00:55:54,508 --> 00:55:57,449
and the occasional celebrity sighting. Where else can

1537
00:55:57,449 --> 00:55:59,913
you go all in against a Hollywood star,

1538
00:56:00,072 --> 00:56:02,718
a tech billionaire and a random guy who's

1539
00:56:02,949 --> 00:56:05,110
clearly been wearing his lucky shirt for the

1540
00:56:05,110 --> 00:56:06,070
tenth day in a row.

1541
00:56:08,309 --> 00:56:10,230
The end of the W sop also marks

1542
00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:12,150
the beginning of planning for next year.

1543
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,063
You'll replay those hands in your head vowing

1544
00:56:16,063 --> 00:56:18,710
to study more place smarter and

1545
00:56:19,483 --> 00:56:21,789
not tilt when your full house gets cracked

1546
00:56:21,789 --> 00:56:22,266
by quad.

1547
00:56:23,787 --> 00:56:26,797
You'll hit the gym, eat better and prepare

1548
00:56:26,797 --> 00:56:29,175
yourself mentally for another shot at glory.

1549
00:56:30,305 --> 00:56:32,385
And so the cycle continues.

1550
00:56:33,585 --> 00:56:35,744
The end of the W sop is bitter

1551
00:56:35,744 --> 00:56:38,565
sweet, but it's also a reminder that poker

1552
00:56:38,704 --> 00:56:39,184
like life,

1553
00:56:39,917 --> 00:56:41,349
is a never ending game.

1554
00:56:42,543 --> 00:56:44,772
There's always another hand to be dealt. Another

1555
00:56:44,772 --> 00:56:47,796
tournament to play, and another chance to turn

1556
00:56:47,796 --> 00:56:48,932
those bad beats

1557
00:56:49,403 --> 00:56:50,358
into sweet victories.

1558
00:56:51,791 --> 00:56:52,906
So until next year,

1559
00:56:53,543 --> 00:56:55,317
keep playing and remember

1560
00:56:55,852 --> 00:56:57,467
in poker and in life

1561
00:56:58,174 --> 00:57:00,871
It's not over until that last river card

1562
00:57:00,871 --> 00:57:01,188
falls.

1563
00:57:02,775 --> 00:57:05,313
That's today's 1 out, and that's today's show.

1564
00:57:06,199 --> 00:57:08,418
I'll see you next week gay team. And

1565
00:57:08,418 --> 00:57:08,814
until then,

1566
00:57:09,527 --> 00:57:10,557
I'll see you at the tables.

1567
00:57:11,746 --> 00:57:14,300
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1568
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1569
00:57:16,446 --> 00:57:18,830
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1570
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1572
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1573
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