BIG FACTS feat. CURTBONE

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Speaker 1: Big Bang. You don't be on nothing.

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Speaker 2: I'll be on BBJ.

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Speaker 3: Com, a lot from the Trap Music Museum's DJ screen, Big Bank, Baby Jade, and today I'm Big Fast.

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Speaker 2: Would like to welcome the DC legend kurk Bone. What's up, kurk Bon.

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Speaker 1: Man, glad to be here, man, Thanks for having me. Thanks pulling up, definitely pulling up.

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Speaker 2: I guess, I guess I start by asking you, uh, you know, with your reputation, you know, like like being the og and everything, like, what made you decide to say one day that I kind of want to get out here and talk a little more and tell my story.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Because a lot of people, you know, they come from your background, they don't do a lot of talking. Yeah, So what made you decide to say, Man, I'm finna get out here, have my own podcast, go kick some gyms on some other podcasts, stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: A couple of reasons, Man, the work I do in DC, Demento on joint right, so a lot of I'm relatable to a lot of young dudes, but I talked to him in small groups, so everybody says, maybe need to, you know, go with a bigger platform. Also, the late great John Thomas call for Georgetown and him was real cool, so we always talk a lot. He's always saying, man, I heard this and heard that. I say, yeah, they said a lot of ship. So he's it's cool to come from the joint, of course he said. He said, okay, okay, I know some people like, man, you two were taking our money all that, So I don't want nobody bread, right, But John, he was like saying, man, look, you gotta tell your own story because you die, somebody gonna tell your story, right. So I said, I want to reach out there and change some jewels, you know, and touching people absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And then coming from DC, we were just chopping it out before, Like you were just saying, there's a lot of similarities. Like a lot of people say d C was one of the first places they seen black people.

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Speaker 4: Like getting money. You was just thriving, thriving. Sure, he was just saying, Atlanta kind of gives you like a vibe of the old d C.

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Speaker 1: Talking about that, he gave me the feel the oldiest every time I come down they feel like it's the eighties in DC, you know what I'm saying, because, like you say, in Dcorunitans was presented tools on a big level, especially with the Marion Burne time where he created PG County with all that money was getting so like, and then a lot of a lot of their government did nowhere to bless you, a lot of government contracts coming through DC, so you had a lot of young black meganis even to the day that ain't that's just straight government contracts. So now it's getting a little gentified. So you don't like when I'm down here, I see a lot of black you know what I'm saying, Like I did up there, right, But the money allys is flowing up through the government jobs and also with the government contracts.

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Speaker 2: What leads you, do you think to the life of the streets and hustling, You know what I'm saying. Was it was it one of those things where you had to do it to survive or was it one of those things where you just was influenced by your climate.

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Speaker 1: To be true, for more and more so influenced by the climate, because I wasn't one of them dudes, a guy the story about your mother ain't feed you and all that. You know what I'm saying. My mother kept a good job. Step step, follow work, you know what I'm saying. But like for River, from where I was from, I was like a leader about four or five neighborhoods with the fighting ship. Right, So then were the trash is to Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that's touching for you. I got that. Yeah, I got hit with that, right, Yeah, someone when they crack and all that hit, right, It's just the system was in place, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: So I just took the design.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling my clients here the system, right, but yeah.

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Speaker 5: This system of design.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they dropped off the sky, right over the sky. Oh man, it's funny.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I tell people that to cut you off.

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Speaker 1: Like you notice you see all these documentaries, all this America against all that ship. It's the same timeline, you know what I'm saying, Early eighties to late eighties, Right, all of a sudden, everybody's got smart, you know what I'm saying. All these brewery ideas, right, they dropped off the sky. If they dropped them off the sky, usually smart gonna get it, the strong gonna get it.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, And that's just hig It's gonna work out.

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Speaker 3: So what what like how you was first introduced to like going to the streets, Like what do you ax?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 1: My first well, before I got in the streets, I as to work for the crap house, the old who had a crap house.

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Speaker 5: I just to run to the store from and the pool. Yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: So now I'm around all the best dudes that come through, these old dudes, Bob Wayne, I J these dudes with aca trash, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know niggas that was I got trash protecting Bubby Johnson. I'm around these dudes right as a kid though I'm like eleven ten. So when I'm seeing how they move, how they talk, they charisma, they got businesses. So it's like that's who I really want to be, Like you know what I'm saying. So it's like that inspired me right there. And then when you when you in that vibements and the drugs right there, it's kind of like it was just right there, you know what I'm saying. Then I had, like I said, I had the team of dudes like every neighborhood beings with the respect I have with the streets. I knew the tough guy every neighbor. So it was like, so we're they gonna get robbed? Was it was just set up easy for me, right, But yeah, but you know that's how that was. But I was always influenced by the older dudes well in that crap house and that pool, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: That's why I got all my lessons from or whatever.

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Speaker 4: How you get introduced to for eedmens.

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Speaker 1: Uh, we had a we had a big fight at my at my high school. Some dudes from his neighborhood got trainingferd to my house. We got put out they high school, so they came into trying the same little trick, but now I know it was a different landscape, so we just get out of them real bad. So they end up contacting him and we ended up meeting at some point, uh you know, about a week or two later, and then you know, we broke bread after that. So that's how that's how they got a chance to meet them.

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Speaker 2: And keeping it real, we always have to do our research, keep it real, doing the bid and being incarcerated and keeping it solid and telling them nobody I guess what was it inside of you?

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Speaker 4: You know that made you solid and made you do that?

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Speaker 2: And was there ever a time inside where you was just frustrated from being so solid?

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Speaker 1: Nah? Because again, like like when you asked about where I got it from, like I was, it was drained me from watching them and hearing them right, Like it was like I wanted to be solid even as a little kid.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm saying, you let master you Nay.

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Speaker 1: So they say, all right, go to the store and get everybod the sams' bring up back the soldiers. So that I said, okay. They say, you want to say, give like twenty dolls, so I'm giving it to you. I'm loaning to you. I say, well, you're loaning to me. They holding it all right before I let it go. I'm loanless to you, right, So little small principles like that, It's stuck in my brain, you know what I'm saying. So it's like some people equivalent, they equivalent. They not telling with toughness. Someone got to do with it. Some a tougher niggas in the country telling you know what I'm saying, because they can come outside and deal with it. But it's like it gotta be in you, it gotta be engraved, and it got understood, you know, all the back for your grandmother. You know, you tell your grandmama. You know, they get some some food up refrigeration. Okay, it's my baby. You come back the third time, says Okay, don't be a talent televison. You know what I'm saying. So it's like it's like that.

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Speaker 3: Be like it's like it's like you damn there slapping your grandma like it's some ship that just be like.

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Speaker 6: How could you how?

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Speaker 3: So it's like another niggat understand, like you know, they got a new thing now that they saying, like when Nigga tears like he told cuzcuz, what how you how's a cuz he told Cuz like trying to explain to you why Nigga told you told you told?

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Speaker 7: If there is any plausible explanation.

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Speaker 6: He told but nah, he right.

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Speaker 3: They just got to be something like like when you come from a place to where niggas that get niggas get kind of a badge, like when he when he was solid, like niggas like shit, that nigga a solid you Niggas saying they know he gonna tell, like niggas be want neck on. They man like like what he's saying, Like the crowd sit around niggas that we know, the niggas that I look up to, how they think about your niegas and how they you know what I'm saying, So that shit just kind of be just.

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Speaker 1: In you. And even when they like said, I had a childhood friend his father told he's solid as a rock, but he been living his whole life trying to move that he not his father.

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Speaker 5: That's the pressure the hood pulled on you.

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Speaker 6: Yes, oh yeah, yeah, you done it.

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Speaker 1: Beat beat it.

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Speaker 7: When niggas tell and they be having like families and ship they don't consider the ramifications for their family like that will tarnish not only.

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Speaker 6: Their rayful told.

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Speaker 5: Yeah he yeah, he end up telling about it.

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Speaker 1: He was locked up on ten years into his bit and he ended up catching another child and he worked with the government who told them so because I'm the dudes who was getting connect from. Ask some DC dudes who he was who he was hitting damn. Yeah yeah, oh yeah, and I broke the whole city off. You know what I'm saying. We used to lay out heead on that you know, we got locked with eighty nine. Think he told about ninety seven or something. Ninety six. We were talking in the feed, were like, man, nigga, his mother locked up, His aren't locked up? Were gont we were living by it. So when he told it like it like it like crushed it, you know the whole city. You know what I'm saying me personally even too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was going on the news and ship talking and ship telling to him.

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Speaker 5: Doing all the type of like some of the interviewed him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, when when he did, like the interview from jail, he was you know, he was cocky and.

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Speaker 5: Ship and getting the beginning or something. Told.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm probably told, but I mean I think on.

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Speaker 1: The interview, I think after he wasn't informing they're doing an interview, but he's dan So showing the Yeah, no, he wasn't working.

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Speaker 5: He wasn't working there.

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Speaker 7: He was in the he was in the the pre telling stages.

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Speaker 1: He was. He was he was contemplating talent when he called that that seed had to be in there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah already right, yeah, yeah, he was. He was trying to see how.

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Speaker 1: About it when he caught when he caught them charge, you know, he called another charg Yeah, he caught another charge. What was the charge? Oh yeah he was he wassling had a whole up a plug.

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Speaker 5: The bro was the gazella.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah her her sons so yeah yeah yeah block yeah.

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Speaker 6: So he was making moves from in there.

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Speaker 1: Make a move from in there, like you said earlier. They say clubs like I ain't no clubs with the tailing ship. Right. But but but in his brain, his so called sat based on with the streets saying that they got caught and told him me and not told back. But it ain't no cuz on that right, that's what his philosophy. Ain't no telling back though, ain't. It ain't no telling back, you know what I'm saying, Like you said in the course, like you know you can't use the cuz you're saying. Look, you know, mother gonna say whatever.

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Speaker 5: But it ain't.

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Speaker 7: It ain't nothing like that ship ship out Now that you say that, that's how a lot of niggas be feeling like till I'm telling back like.

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Speaker 6: I'm the second hand teller. It's not bad. It's race tealing enough. I gotta tell first, get them first. They race telling. And it's certain.

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Speaker 1: People like like with him. You got the history of your mother. Everybody was hustling, so you don't get no clause like that. You don't nobody. It ain't no you know what I'm saying when you it ain't no claw like like the little what's the little dude that went back? I told my son, gonna go back from day one, little colorful hair, the cost.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: A nigga like that saying something he a nigga might can say, well, he shouldn't have got it anyway, But somebody that lived by the calls is born in it. You don't get that.

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Speaker 5: You don't you know, you don't. You don't. You don't get that pass like that.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know yeah yeah, yeah, definitely yeah yeah.

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Speaker 6: What kind of money y'all will get? They said, what three hundred million thousand a week?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, three hundred that much.

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Speaker 6: You he's getting lot.

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Speaker 1: We're getting a lot of money with them, three hundred you know, three hundred million. Give numbers if everybody's numbers be blown up, everybody, you know what I'm saying, Like I tell people because that makes the cave better, right, And then you got people with the jewelers like they making that. I ain't making up with thirty thousand, you know what I'm saying. Then it's like with the government. If they got if they came here this whole table for the keys, you're gonna see that they just for a hundred keys. When they do the man, they're gonna do the math every dime bag and all them keys they gonna do.

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Speaker 5: That's remember, they gonna.

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Speaker 3: Get they they're gonna they're gonna do rush than that. They gonna do it off the puerdness like they're gonna they would have cut this.

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Speaker 6: So they probably made two out of.

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Speaker 1: This, right, and that's to break that whip it. They're gonna whip it too, like some niggas gonna whip.

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Speaker 7: So that's another that's eighteen years turn that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, three on the million. Yeah yeah, them people got to say they game for real.

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Speaker 6: So what kind of time you gotta cut off the tailor?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He came on news overy day they supposed they say, supposed to bet like thirty bus left or something like that.

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Speaker 5: Right, but we'll see they've been saying they gonna come on forever.

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Speaker 3: So you get out what you think you think he's gonna he's gonna he probably.

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Speaker 6: Gonna be one of them out he gonna want them to think. You're gonna justify what you're thinking.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if he if he, if he got since I think you should have should say out the way, you know the way. All my buddy Heep asked me that all my budket bolls saying you gotta put your inside. You gotta be the first one.

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Speaker 6: All that.

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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I'm gonna revisit that when you get there.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: We visited that. Get there.

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Speaker 1: Let's take it right now about to order. I'm about to interview the chief of police and DC get and they see me as a real motherfucker interview that I might yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: But right now, right for the street.

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Speaker 5: But right now you know that, you know.

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Speaker 1: But the first course, why why, I mean, why you know what I'm saying, like you know, that's all I have to say, is why you know what I'm saying? Like you know it's it's I'm gonna tell you to Like I told somebody, if I would have been a betan man, I wouldn't bet he would have never did it. I wouldn't have I would have lost my money. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I have lost my money on that. You know what I'm saying. So that would be the number one question.

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Speaker 5: Why.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying that, you know what you say to make you accept as well?

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Speaker 1: No, because he he he, he ain't crazy. He know the game and he know he can't say to make nobody subject. He can have his reason, but it ain't gonna be a just rea. But I still want to know why. Like what you're thinking about your family, dudes has a tie to you, your grandma. Yeah, when he first that ship first is the fan I literally had to put my hand on two dudes. One of the Bob shot one of them all just because that's his man. And you know what I'm saying, when it first hit the fans.

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Speaker 6: Oh, y'all it up like y'all killing.

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Speaker 1: That's his man right there. You know what I'm saying, Nigga, the fuck that baby. I know niggas that took pussy and killed babies and all that got to give me. Everybody, everybody's a rep you know what I'm saying. So yeah, but yeah, it's it's a sad thing. But on the real, on a serious note, on a personal note, door it was it hurts me to see him do that, you know what I'm saying. And for the city, it crushed the city though because we used to we still hide out layout had on that dude dude standing up in our city. But it ain't a lot of race, but it's a lot of dudes in the city that passed that test and still and we used to brag about that, you know what I'm saying. We used to like we all like with like when New York and DC always had like a little unspoken little rivalry so so so so so when you in jail, you on the streets, he was like, nigga, nigga, borrow all the niggas hot, and you get a name of rocking niggas hot and nigga, ain't nobody tell her. So when he did it, it was like, that's that's they blow that.

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Speaker 5: Mother fuller trump every chimee, every.

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Speaker 1: Change they get, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So that was that was the black eye of that right, But you know, everybody got to, you know, face their own destiny.

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Speaker 5: Saying so I just gotta see how that play out.

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Speaker 6: What about Apple?

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Speaker 1: What about.

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Speaker 6: Like a piece of.

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Speaker 1: I know I got locked in nineteen eighty nine. I know him from like eighty six to eighty nine. I know what's trying to get some money. You know what I'm saying. Was hustling. He wasn't getting nobody name fucking on a few little bras. Excuse me, I got a lot of age nine different eighties, probably ninety to two.

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Speaker 5: We went to jail. He ended up had to change with the same because for.

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Speaker 1: Refereal, like the mistaque niggas on his ass, you know what I'm saying, niggas, niggas trying to rob, niggas trying to kidnap, niggas trying to kill him, know what I'm saying. So it's like but so he I guess he changed with the climate. But before then it was it was all business. He was a dude that come in town, that got had some joints and dude was working.

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Speaker 3: Oh you said he wanted them nigga letting the game turn him sound like fuck, that ain't gonna be the nigga like this the way the game played, He's gonna play a high play.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if he was here, probably be an explanation. But I'm just saying the fact before eighty nine, I ain't seen none of that in it. I'm not saying he wasn't that he wasn't cable doing something. I just seen a dude that was trying to conduct business, you know what I'm saying. Then I know when that you got Samma Ray winning, the streets dried up, you know what I'm saying, Them little bit joints he was bringing down and couldn't feed the whole city, you know what I'm saying. So it's like Niggas Niggas was Niggas was was trying to put Niggs in trun Nigga on Niggas line. Niggas he was breaking load. Wo tell you to meet up to bring you a move, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, you know, I guess I guess he had a jest suit of time, but I ain't know that apple right all I was heading in jail, I was like, what, like I couldn't I couldn't leave it, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: So that's how that's how it was.

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Speaker 3: You ain't know he ain't saying when he got out and go to the part of that.

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Speaker 5: For he ain't had no party.

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Speaker 1: That's another that's another ship. That's crazy, man. They had no part with that nigga that there. Man, he ain't nobody never really seen him and I seen it was the uh knocked off at the club. That's that's a New York That was he telling me, you're talking about party like that hours. Hell no, man, I don't know who the fuck started and what what? What's what's the dude with the big meat? I see him get interview one time on even What's thing. He was like, yeah, man, that's crazy. They say you have a party in d C. I ain't never think of DC. I'm like, when the dude got credibility like he got, you don't repeat it like that that you don't got no facts one like that. I mean, I mean, I understand it was out there, you know what I'm saying, But it's like, who the fuck wont throw a party? Who won't come? He ain't gonna come to that party, you know what I'm saying. That's the crazy nigga about it, right, I ain't never seen him. I'm not saying that he can't peep in DC. But since he was home, I never seen him in DC. I never know nobody who know him saying. You know what I'm saying, that actually say, but I'm not gonna say he eats back in and like that.

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Speaker 3: But now that was that's way he got out, like counter of delusion, trying to god damn thingk he going to be back like back in the day type shit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the that's the culture now, the culture. I don't care about your about your jacket. And if you can get a couple of dollars with him to help him get a couple out, they turn their back on all that ship. You know what I'm saying, Like, that's the It ain't that that culture we're talking about.

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Speaker 5: That's gone.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that's gone. Like back then, a nigga come back like that. It was a community effort to get him out of the way because you bad for everybody.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I could be in a restaurant nigga be like man Boom ain't his name is on the case. Yeah he up here now when we talked to him a little while, like it was a team and that dude might ain't never break law with you, but he knew what importance of he he was definition to the street. Oh that's gone there, dude. I'm saying, dudes come on with plugs that told and serving everybody. You know what I'm saying. Like I've seen dudes that told come home with plugs and they serving people.

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Speaker 6: I ain't mean to hear that time.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what.

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Speaker 1: The yeah, and especially nigga play with the gun for some reason, the streets thing that a nigga played with the gun. He his mental different. He ain't no that ship. If it's in you, it's in you. Like I'm saying, I knew that be busting his gun like a nigga that's killing. Nigga had known for for killing. Dude just already as soon that he ain't gonna tell if he got work, man, he he did, but telling he dig a cold killer. He did see that. But them the ones that be feeling like, you know what I'm gonna deal right here on the streets, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they got too niggas that told that they team up and they really come to see niggas.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But but the community killed. And still that's that's because the community lost after team effort to because because back.

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Speaker 7: In the day, like man if a niggas told man and the nigga came back to the streets trying to be regular man, niggas got exterminated expeditiously.

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Speaker 5: And the crazy thing about it, guess what, they ain't even kind of come.

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Speaker 1: They ain't even come.

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Speaker 7: But the ones that did didn't want to step out there, and you know, kind of.

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Speaker 3: They was already hard in jail too, telling in jail coming.

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Speaker 6: To the door, what I did it? So what man like, it's it's the it's the like he said, it's.

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Speaker 5: The climate is a climate.

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Speaker 3: Man, niggas your roommates doing it, ask you tell them what they want to know, bro.

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Speaker 1: And then and now the generation nowadays, they don't got no by laws.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It's like they just like you back and then you get a puzzle and all the piece. Then they give you a little structure. How that they don't got that right what I'm saying. Just freestyle the freestyle ship, Yeah, they freestyle.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: These niggas nowadays donna give a funk about Oh jeez, he'sig smoked you, Yes, okay, get out ship and then in the community, how many how many niggas you kill?

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Speaker 1: Niggas dead?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Creating about it, I worked with that demographic when when they go where they not, they not the way they living. A lot of them don't be like that. I mean far as like back in the day, your nigga can kill you when you catch it anywhere. You could be in a safe way with a plastic knife. You gonna get the same action. Like a lot of them, they just be like they desensitized. It ain't It ain't that they more they doing crazy. She don't, don't downplay that, but they doing shit more from desensitized, like they don't even really understand and rammications and repercussion. It ain't like they fuck you. They don't know the fuck you.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Like I was talking to my friend. You being in a store.

00:21:29
Speaker 1: You see a young lady that's thirty and under. She bound chickens. She got a tight top on. You can see the nibbles in her shirt in my brain. You ain't looking the mirror, but in her brain. Since she been living. It's been on TV this dormble, you know what I'm saying. So they only live it in their time, like you you beat them. She ain't no freak, That's that's what she knows. Her favorite singer. You don't do that, you know what I'm saying. So it's like they just they desensitized and they don't really understand. They don't have no male figures in their life. None like we had to father, even step father, uncle, og basketball coach. Uh, you know somebody the principal was a male. Like all they surrounded is females. Don't knocks on females, but they throw off the female, the security of the jail, the female. Everybody's female. So even when you talking to a young dude, you ain't even getting aggressed. You might just say, yeah, man, I'm just your tone went from five to eight, But you ain't say that disrespectful. They ain't used to a man. They used to a woman coming, okay, what you you better make me beat you up? And no, Miss Ander said, you know, and then they can maneuver, you know what I'm saying. So it's like to their defense, they just don't know. They ain't had that what's name. That's why we gotta step out as a team, as a unit. You know what I'm saying, Man, that's what we gotta do.

00:22:47
Speaker 4: What you think was more detrimental to.

00:22:51
Speaker 2: Black culture if you if you put it on the scale, like cracking crack to the black community, or now like even though it has its blessings, social media cloud. Well I said social media, but yep, social media cloud, cracker cloud or cracker cloud.

00:23:09
Speaker 5: It's a good question. But I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna stick with.

00:23:15
Speaker 1: The crack owner because the restid from the side effects from the crack is the reason why they acting there acting on the with the cloud. Ye because because because because we sold all that three hundred million, the Rayful Kirk Boone Big, all these motherfucker they were selling all that ship.

00:23:31
Speaker 6: We took.

00:23:31
Speaker 1: We took the father. We took the father and him about the house. You know what I'm saying. Like in the seventies and the sixties when Heroin was the academic, you only took really the father out the house. The bubble still was there booting everybody up. We took both parents out. So now you're talking about they raising theyself, so they already.

00:23:46
Speaker 5: Know the best.

00:23:46
Speaker 1: So now you're seeing them acting out and having timultange and the way they behave because they ain't had no teaching. So the cloud is crazy, is out of hand. But I think the crack was the beginning stages of this is the side effects of the long term of it.

00:24:00
Speaker 4: You ever have like regrets about just like your place.

00:24:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, but definitely have a regress about that. And it fucked me to today. In certain in certain situations, you know what I'm saying, I'm out, or I'm talking to somebody, or I'm mentoring a young and I'm looking at his mother or father. You know what I'm saying, And you know, so it fuck with me a lot, you know what I'm saying. But it's like, and I tell people, I wasn't naive that selling drugs wasn't wasn't a good thing. I'm not gonna sit there and tell you I ain't one to nigga say no, somebod else would have sold them.

00:24:28
Speaker 5: I knew it was a bad thing.

00:24:29
Speaker 1: What I didn't understand they got a law out that's for people that's been killing. They come home that they like a lot of dudes that killed under twenty four under they come home after doing twenty something. They had forty, but they let them out because they did a study that the brain don't forty developed it after twenty four to twenty five. So you can't make a good loan term decision. You know what you're doing current, but not a loan sources. So I'm using that to say I knew selling drugs wasn't right, right, hold me to that. But what I didn't though, was I'm selling got them high. So now his little door in the house without no parents in there, so she going to school setting a little body trying to keep up your son, good rob and getting locked up getting I ain't know that part of it.

00:25:08
Speaker 5: I ain't know.

00:25:08
Speaker 1: I was expecting that. I didn't see him.

00:25:10
Speaker 5: I ain't see his house, you know what I'm saying.

00:25:13
Speaker 1: So that's that's what I'm really, really, really really sorry about. You know what I'm saying. It just didn't know, you know what I'm saying. But I knew the sons really wasn't right.

00:25:20
Speaker 2: Come coming back into the world after do in your bed and just looking at how the climate of the streets changing anything. If somebody asked you, is there any hope for the streets what would be your reply to that.

00:25:32
Speaker 1: It's hope, but it's a long term jo It ain't gonna be no short, quick joint, you know what I'm saying, because right now, the younger today, man, it's that money moving, that money moving, like these younger's got they dreaming big like there ain't somebod they want, no no being.

00:25:47
Speaker 5: They want they want bigottis. You know what I'm saying.

00:25:49
Speaker 1: They want they seeing all this shit on social media. So it's gonna be a long term joint. But it's just like, but we gotta find a way.

00:25:55
Speaker 7: Man.

00:25:55
Speaker 1: We can't be scared and we can't be saying young gonna kill everybody. They don't kill all of this time. We gotta you just gotta It's gonna be a long term fight.

00:26:02
Speaker 5: But I don't think. I think it's hope, but it's gonna be.

00:26:04
Speaker 1: It's it's it's a long term. It's a long term for everybody got to get in the game. Everybody got get in the game. You know what I'm saying. Like I said, you ain't gotta like you doing your podcast, you might don't got time to go check a young nigga and have him meet him every Saturday or Sunday and all that, right, but you gonna be in your favorite t I rested. When you see a young they're buffing tables and you come there twice a week, give him fifty ceas dollars and talk to him like, man, what you doing?

00:26:28
Speaker 5: Really? Way pressing? What I did? You know what I'm saying.

00:26:30
Speaker 1: I ain't had no courage and work for Maurra Burma's giving him some of your job. I never had a summer job. I would feel to get the fast money. So a dude that got that patient to do that and next time and days when he turned on his phone and he see all your nigga's age and to buy that's pressure, man, you know what I'm saying. So you got we gotta applaud these people, hug him, love on them, you know what I'm saying, and and and and and let him know.

00:26:53
Speaker 5: Man, just stay there.

00:26:53
Speaker 4: Man.

00:26:53
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

00:26:54
Speaker 1: This is to stick with it's tough, and do what you can do. You can't do it all, Do what you can do.

00:27:00
Speaker 5: Yeah, like that?

00:27:01
Speaker 2: What's some of the DC rappers you fuck with? Coming from DC? What's some of the ones you put your stamp on?

00:27:05
Speaker 5: I fuck with all of them. I'm a little biased.

00:27:07
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it shot uh a baller young e class. Yeah, my man just uh winning uh locked up with my man locked up, just winning of Virginia.

00:27:22
Speaker 5: What's his name? From thirty seven fat Trail out.

00:27:31
Speaker 6: Days ago?

00:27:32
Speaker 1: Yeahalle, You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I messed all of them, man, all of it is. It's a good movement up there.

00:27:42
Speaker 6: Yeah.

00:27:42
Speaker 5: And it's a good movement up there.

00:27:43
Speaker 4: How make you feel when you hear your name in the raps?

00:27:46
Speaker 1: I mean it's cool because it makes you feel like you at least play in that world, at least played the right way right where they feel hormorble to you know, the brand you with that you speak on.

00:27:55
Speaker 5: You like that, right?

00:27:56
Speaker 1: But I like it more so because it gives me credibility to the work I do.

00:27:59
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying now, So.

00:28:00
Speaker 1: When I meet Youngert now even they even they tense up when they google you. Then when you go back and around, it's a different bump, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, so I like that part of it, and that's why I do a lot of this and stay with Nigga.

00:28:11
Speaker 5: Like you said, like you said, like like.

00:28:13
Speaker 1: All the ship I did, I can't even show you picture shit we did because we was trained to take the pictures. You know what I'm saying. So I can't even show you the ship we did. But the fact that they can google me now and see I use that, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, So that's what that's what I really like about it. Well, young dude, like said, man, shut up, you know what I'm saying. So and I can spell, ain't gonna say with everybody, but I can least spill.

00:28:37
Speaker 2: What's some of the biggest game of gyms that you you be giving the young boys like personally, like in your programs and when you just talk to people and even if they ain't even trying to hear all.

00:28:45
Speaker 1: This My number one thing to anybody young. Oh know yourself. You know what I'm saying, Like, know yourself, bake the foundation strowing you got a young dude. Whatever you put in somebody young, that's what they're gonna fall back home. When when adversity come. I got like my favorite saying the world it's adversity and do some man to himself right, So like she said, said like Ray might have had it in his brain all that right, something in his core probably came back into play, you know what I'm saying. So you put that good stories that like we build a house, you build that foundation strong. It's gonna it's gonna that bad weather come. That is gonna lean back on that foundation.

00:29:18
Speaker 5: Right.

00:29:18
Speaker 1: So I try to tell her young dudes get a name. When my grandmother coming around to d C, she lived in PG County. She came in my neighborhood, took me to church on Sunday, I ain't want to go, but when I went, it gave me. Foundation, gave me capasity. Now, when I'm on the streets leading dudes on beef from there, I can say, she owe me that money, but I ain't gonna bust her head.

00:29:37
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna, I ain't gonna, I ain't gonna put.

00:29:38
Speaker 6: In the dirt.

00:29:39
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. What's the person versus a.

00:29:41
Speaker 1: Person that didn't have that, They didn't have that teaching, they gonna be like, man, burn her up. She should have never got it, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, so that foundation is key.

00:29:52
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

00:29:53
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no no no.

00:29:55
Speaker 3: I'm just saying if that means a lot, mean a lot. What you think the biggest myth is like about a DC nigga, Like the biggest lie they've never told the biggest myth about the DC nig.

00:30:10
Speaker 1: That's a couple of them, but I would thinking of one that that ir take me a little bit. All of them on boys, the faggy joint, man that that's that's that's, that's that's I mean, truthfully, man, I feel like you started because you hear a lot of dudes that was locked up. Like you know, if you got anybody that's locked up, I don't give up withisted a year. And they gonna tell you about the d C dues. Very very ignorant in them joints.

00:30:36
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

00:30:36
Speaker 1: They gonna be really aggressive. They're gonna they come in the compound, they gonna find who got who, They're gonna they gonna flip that joint, right, So dudes that had bad experiences with them them be the most to do with that trumpet. Now, I'm not saying niggas fucking in jail from all from every city. They ain't that ain't that ain't no stigm in every city. You know what I'm saying.

00:30:57
Speaker 6: You know, you know you you game right with it, you know what I'm talking, But you can't.

00:31:00
Speaker 1: Right Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, that's because that's that. Listen, anybody here interview from Jaiff West. They say, I fuck with d C man, they do this, they go. Only thing about them is that right now, you've been watching jail princes all your life of penitential, every jerf perce. You've seen every Hollywood joe A niggas fucking somebody in there, where the fuck they from? You know what I'm saying, But this is like for real, real, it's it's the only block out they can give you.

00:31:24
Speaker 6: So you said.

00:31:27
Speaker 1: Trump slipt like like I wouldn't even like I wouldn't even give all the DC jills, couldn't offendi many people, like I wouldn't give a lot of the DC jail stories though, could offendi many people. You mean, like what man like game leaders and dudes that's strong in the city, had a lot of bad expurss with DC dudes. And then if it's then if it's then if it's dudes that really wasn't like they had a lot of bad services dc D you know what I'm saying.

00:31:52
Speaker 5: So it's like I see the reasons.

00:31:54
Speaker 3: You know, dayni fait, we try to clean up, and they're saying ship by Rafael tu though.

00:31:59
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, I heard that his suitcase.

00:32:02
Speaker 6: I heard that too, not suitcase. They saying he just like you know, so you actually he ain't opened it, that's what he say.

00:32:19
Speaker 3: So so when we're right here, you they say he got damn he had them boy like that what he was doing.

00:32:26
Speaker 5: I can't speaking. I'm gonna say this.

00:32:28
Speaker 1: I know I know dudes locked that with him in Louisburg that don't funk with him because he went bad. They didn't even tell me that.

00:32:36
Speaker 6: Okay they ain't that right, Okay, okay.

00:32:38
Speaker 1: But but also know this, I know before we were before we went to jail.

00:32:42
Speaker 3: Before we were saying that before he went to jail too.

00:32:44
Speaker 1: Before he went to jail, before we went to jail, like in d C. Like it's allowed on how here. But a lot of gay dudes everybody sliding and scam. Now that was and that was a game, a gay hustle back in the eighties, right, So they hushed so all the cis always had the jewelry and everything. So all them that money, that money, he buy it off, you know what I'm saying. And when he seeing him in the clubs, he's still communicated with like the hall down speech and all that.

00:33:12
Speaker 6: Friends like they could come up and hug him.

00:33:14
Speaker 1: Come they come and.

00:33:15
Speaker 5: Stand buy But a lot of dudes in the city buying it doing all the same. Ship about it.

00:33:22
Speaker 1: By me, don't right right right, right right right, but right, but that that that he was, this position that he was just and he I can do what I wanted them called. So in the street, I said, tell him, I say, God, damn, man, you gotta stop. You know he's like, man, you know that before you were there. You know what I'm saying. But it don't get me wrong some of it and some of the games was talking about I know some of them, you know what I'm saying. One grew up with me around the neighborhood. Like no, he was add it too, telling them what he was saying that he did it with No man, No, that's the streets, man, he never get out of. Basically, that's the streets, man, that's the streets. That was the streets.

00:34:01
Speaker 9: Basically just whispers the streets was staying like he's too friendly with him ship niggas way doing that ship though, Like I'm being streets you know me saying that the streets like that don't make up certain ship.

00:34:15
Speaker 6: I ain't saying he did or didn't.

00:34:17
Speaker 3: But like, but a lot of ship implode yourself around that type of business, how finnash just like that's just like right.

00:34:26
Speaker 6: Now, you went to jail, you did your time.

00:34:28
Speaker 3: Solid niggas back out of here and the youth changing, what the fuck you look like being in the rat me being.

00:34:34
Speaker 4: Who like a rat?

00:34:35
Speaker 6: Me like like nigga just like like you just like you just hanging with rats.

00:34:41
Speaker 9: How that's like the but.

00:34:45
Speaker 1: But the rap joint is a is a principal joint, right me knowing the niggas is gas.

00:34:50
Speaker 6: That ain't like he's saying that. He's saying, I'm not.

00:34:57
Speaker 1: Like principles like he said press, I'm saying about yeah so yeah, so I'm saying, so the hoshy that's holding around like hanging around, you ain't standing around. You ain't doing nothing. But if you gay and I know you, yeah we cool. Don't say that because because you gave that's don't.

00:35:25
Speaker 7: I don't take that turns into homophobia, and that is something that we do.

00:35:29
Speaker 6: Kno, no, he like we ain't come.

00:35:31
Speaker 3: And I'm saying, like if they saying I'm this, I need to remove myself because something that I'm doing is just because if I'm not so that what won't.

00:35:40
Speaker 4: Even give you the idea.

00:35:43
Speaker 1: That that is acceptable in my space.

00:35:47
Speaker 6: But yeah, so that's what I'm.

00:35:49
Speaker 1: Saying, like I mean, it's it's it's it's the easies. I'm saying, for a stamp, the dude selling them a jewelry, selling them all type of ship. Then they see later on the club and they coming hard because you just spent money. You just spend seven eighteen fifteen thousand with they coming home as you a nigga. It's certain, dude, like like with me, just they go back to what I said, Go back what I said, say the court, you gotta know who you are. You know what I'm saying like like like like like like like the public the public can't dictate what I said exactly.

00:36:22
Speaker 3: Like the day I'm gonna keeping he did is he has struckn His credibility to whatever niggas say about him is believable.

00:36:32
Speaker 1: Cold. I kind of see that one. Yeah you went back. Look you see that on you know that you did that. Don't don't confuse it. I'm not defending. I'm just saying you pre for with the jail nineteen from eighty six to eighty nine. I'm saying the behavior I've seen out did we started the talk, started the chat, you know what I'm saying. So it's like then when you go in and whatever you did, whether you broke, that makes it that he might even really fucking my boy.

00:36:59
Speaker 6: You know.

00:36:59
Speaker 1: So I understand where the development came from, but I'm just asking you a question from where I went. Now, I ain't been around in thirty years, you know what I'm saying. Dude, I know was out there with him. Dame came back and be like, you know, they'd be like, they ain't telling me photo, but any might have did. But I'm just saying I ain't heard it.

00:37:13
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, he.

00:37:15
Speaker 1: Might do, but I ain't heard it. Yeah, but that's the basic on DC shit though, That gay shit is just they got to stop that one.

00:37:20
Speaker 3: What you think the best thing is that y'all get like, oh yeah, them the DC nigga be doing that, you know what I'm saying, Like the best.

00:37:26
Speaker 5: Sticking together, kicking together.

00:37:31
Speaker 1: We like like like we look at d C, like how the NFL look at the logo, the NFL logo, you know what I'm saying.

00:37:37
Speaker 5: So it's like like in some and.

00:37:39
Speaker 1: Sometime like you be like say you be locked up me somewhere you make me Somebody say say some land dudes. I'm just using an example. They might say, man, they getting something. Man shit, they from the other side of Atlanta. They ain't from there. You know what I'm saying. We could be down here and see a DC dude get into it though he's from DC. You know he might don't even fuck with each other like that because we was kind of trained to protect that logo, you know what I'm saying, especially for any kind of started like in the penitentiaries like years ago. Like we was talking about jail ship right like a lot of like a them story. Like when you want to hear some about some jail ship, don't talk to a nigga from I'm your what city from that's talking from their feelings. Talk from a dude that's really a cold man, that ain't he just going on what happened because dudes got attended, even DC dudes got tended to talk hot about their city.

00:38:19
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, don't restate the fense the story.

00:38:22
Speaker 6: Right.

00:38:22
Speaker 1: So it's like like like it's like like it's it's it's reason to rhyme and wise like that. Like I'm gonna take you all the way back when erb Brotherhood they was punching everything that's black on give what your area code was.

00:38:32
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

00:38:32
Speaker 1: They had a system with the police popping your ship with you on the visit while you had cuff, while you're in the shower.

00:38:37
Speaker 5: They because them niggas was racist on motorcycle niggas.

00:38:40
Speaker 1: Ern Roll, who was on the street right DC was what the first cit they came together because they cooked. They took some als on that joints and they started slaughter, hitting guards and everything. So that's what a mystique came all the way back in the sixties and the fifty lad like, so this is another thing that people don't know like self constantly and you might do and probably remember the story, but like when you be young, when you're young, like a like a dude for your own have been in jail. I guess that's Uncle Mike. He's staying in Lord's word whis his name. But the nigga of young I uncre what sit together. He's saying, You go to jail, nigga, you know, white boys and DC boys gonna get on you. So the mystique been in your brain forty years, you know what I'm saying. So when you go there and see shit and spur and shit, it's ah, that's what it is, what I'm saying. So a lot of dudes just be emotionally tied to it, like this is what it is like New y'all. Nigga started rop y'all took it, you know what I'm saying.

00:39:22
Speaker 5: So it's like, it is what it is like.

00:39:24
Speaker 1: But so niggas want to down play, Like I'm not gonna down play like niggas in the landa get money, I cause nigga can't get no niggas get money. You know what I'm saying. That shit, that ship, I'll get them them hasts like that. That got all your opinion shit out there, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, so dudes be too personal with that ship. That's why I read don't really get into it, but it's like for real, for real, it's a reason for that.

00:39:41
Speaker 5: And then back so it's like it's.

00:39:43
Speaker 1: A whole joint that So it's like that's what the mystique can't so the DC for all the way back then that we go to jail, it's in our brain, nigga, bigga, don that nothing happened. That's the that's the lowbo that's you know, that's that. So that's kind of like kind of like the mistake. Come any asshole nigga from the town that's going real crazy, y'all should be saying for d because he he into that type of ship. You know what I'm saying, crazy ship, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, man, but you know, but again, we don't want to go to jail.

00:40:06
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

00:40:07
Speaker 1: I ain't promoting jailor no shape for fashion. You know what I'm saying.

00:40:11
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like you know how you hear certain ship like Atlanta niggas. I know they say niggas is this way. You know what I'm saying that, well, you know what I'm saying, like whatever, like niggaslick niggas hustlers whatever, like what you know, Like when you go in different cities, nigga be like, Okay, DC nigga get money, or the DC niggas do this, or the niggas been't fly, need to fly, niggas.

00:40:28
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like type ship.

00:40:30
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like you get know what I'm saying, Like when you go certain places, like certain cities known for certain ship from the niggas, that's that's out the streets, you know what I'm saying. Like, that's how you determine what type of That's how you termin the whole town off the street niggas real ship, Like okay, nah them niggas this you You know what I'm saying.

00:40:49
Speaker 5: The streets always dictate everything.

00:40:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you know what I'm saying. You be like, oh yeah, your niggas be gotdawn woo woo.

00:40:56
Speaker 6: You know what I mean.

00:40:57
Speaker 1: These niggas be that like and I got the Louisiana before I got locked up. But start being around South Dove, around Memphis, dode with New Orleans, du Texas, d Knoxville, like and I'll bring they like man country niggas, ain't they the niggas ain't getting the money. They niggas slow the nigga and I got locked up around his nigga. I say, no, it's just we just got different styles. Niggas showing me pictures of gas stations. You know what I'm saying, I don't a gas.

00:41:19
Speaker 5: I don't want it.

00:41:20
Speaker 1: I got caught with this, like you just don't know because you're going off again. Who's telling the story? You know what I'm saying, Who's telling the story. So it's like they be they be too emotionally involved.

00:41:30
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I'm not.

00:41:31
Speaker 1: I'm not working on emotions, like like the young niggas, I'm mentor. Now it's some of the dudes walking around thinking they father as rats. That wasn't rets because a nigga didn't like him.

00:41:38
Speaker 5: Farther was hopening.

00:41:39
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's another thing to rules, like you can't you can't really like a nigga, can't say a nigga's a rat all day. But until they produce that paperwork, you can't really like go off that ship really.

00:41:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the streets getting so clowniss now that they they they forgazy paperwork, paperwork coming they like this right here, I'm like, what there? They made the streets a joke that the streets over, because they make it a joke.

00:42:04
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

00:42:08
Speaker 6: The street street, you gotta move with time.

00:42:16
Speaker 1: You can be at dinner and eating and the girls should be like, that's not her here rat, Like when was that a conversation for for a girl that's working nine to five and getting your head there?

00:42:26
Speaker 5: You on the date? Why you keeping the style? Who rets?

00:42:28
Speaker 1: But that's how muchy commercialized now, you know what I'm saying, Like you don't know what what's you know what I'm saying. One time, one time a girl, she might hurt her.

00:42:37
Speaker 6: I don't know that.

00:42:37
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but she might know, you know what I'm saying, she stayed in her lane. But now the streets so commercialized. It's just like it's Gordon Straps. Everybody just zig zagging, sad, doing what they want, you know what I'm saying. So now that it became clownish, you know what I'm saying. So it's like the street says, we know it is over. I'm saying, but you But lucky for this new generation, they can see the world though, you know what I'm saying, they can the world man, Yeah, so that they got a.

00:43:03
Speaker 2: Change along your journey. Who is the person you say disappointed you the most?

00:43:10
Speaker 4: Just in life?

00:43:10
Speaker 2: It could be the streets, family life, personal ship, whatever. Who was the person that that's a hell of a question. Disappointed Kurt Bone the most.

00:43:19
Speaker 5: Damn, that's a hell of a question. Let me tweak it a little bit and say myself.

00:43:26
Speaker 4: That's hard.

00:43:26
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's hard.

00:43:30
Speaker 1: Because I know God gave me a title I could never really identified, and I waste a lot of time in the streets. You know what I'm saying, you know, utilizing in the in the in the in the way that wasn't it was frivolous, you know what I'm saying.

00:43:42
Speaker 5: Like I already know He.

00:43:43
Speaker 1: Gave me the business. Since I was in the elementary I had the ability to move men when I say men in my ps. You know what I'm saying, all the way elementary school, you know what I'm saying. So it's like all the way to now. So he gave me the gift for a reason, you know what I'm saying. But so it's like I waste a lot of time in the streets been bone. He got the hold North east Side becover the club they call your name and the mic. I put too much infantis on that, you know what I'm saying. And I'm looking at dudes that used to be the patrol boys that we was like that baron man, that lame mans nigga. They got a million dollar contracts ten or twenty MILLI dollars contract Like it's dudes in DC getting more money, rappers like like on some women in DC getting like it's women there. We're fifty to one hundred million, you know what I said. So it's like, so it's like, but they understood the journey you're said. They understood that. You know what I'm saying. I don't need my name called the go go. I don't need to be the best.

00:44:30
Speaker 5: I don't need to be that.

00:44:31
Speaker 1: I've seen a bigger picture. So to me, I say myself with the biggest the deport me. But I wouldn't train nothing like God made me. But I felect that I wasted idle too much time. You know bullshit. And my sister grade teacher told me that miss Ruddied White Lady. She said, you can be the president of the Worry and they tell you that, and you be like, all, I heard that before, right, But she said, but you're procrastinator, and I and and that it ain't hit me there.

00:44:53
Speaker 5: But as I started watching my.

00:44:54
Speaker 1: Life, I said, damn, I bullshit on a lot of shit.

00:44:58
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'll say me.

00:45:01
Speaker 1: Else when I got big.

00:45:07
Speaker 6: So what's all the ship you do? Like to make sure you don't got damn, just punch yourself in the more, Like what's the ship you do?

00:45:15
Speaker 1: Just try to be consistent with like be uh small things now, like uh making your bed in the morning, right, like a little small sh like that. You start off getting one small little something you just done today habits and then make you do other things. Right, even if I get up, if I get up in the morning and rolled over and.

00:45:33
Speaker 5: Checked something, then sucked up. So when I checked up, who eat d me?

00:45:38
Speaker 6: And me?

00:45:38
Speaker 1: Who? So somebody made a common bone he killed in the park at my whole day off. But if I get up, don't touch the phone, go bust my tae, wash my face, make my bed, put my jazz music, going to check this on like an hour later, my whole day I get something done.

00:45:52
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. So just you gotta make them create.

00:45:58
Speaker 6: Just distract you from.

00:46:01
Speaker 5: My podcast a year.

00:46:02
Speaker 1: Oh guess how I'm er sid I was gonna do it about nine years every time I went to the mic, I'm a chill. I ain't ready yet, for no reasons though. You know what I'm saying, Like guys like y'all stop me. I'm saying you on the talking ship, being you. You know what I'm saying, being you talking ship. You know what I'm like, Like like like I drew inspiration for that, you know what I'm saying. Like I'm from the old school, like I studied a lot of you probably already noticed. So I'm like, man, I ain't I'm gonna be stuttering. Then then these motherfucker niggas would push it on. Man, the nigga have for ital He'd be with Like I was like, I can't, I can't catch these niggas got all.

00:46:33
Speaker 5: This dumpty going too my brain.

00:46:35
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, who I know in that city, Like can touch these nigga all that dumb shit, right, but just worrying about the wrong ship, you know what I'm saying. So it's like like maw man, So I'm just one small thing at a time, getting out there man and loving it.

00:46:47
Speaker 5: Man, how you.

00:46:50
Speaker 2: Revers and change that mindset some of the shit you talking about, Like what was the shift was it? Was it just your your bed or was it just you just click with you? You feel like your mind mature, Like how did you adjust your mind that ship to become the man you're out of that.

00:47:03
Speaker 1: I'm gonna praying, man's I pray a lot, even when I was breaking law, was praying uh uh and just and just actually just getting up doing to stop making a skif for not doing it, because we don't make the keys for not doing it. Uh and it be something dumbest excuse in the world. You know what I'm saying, nigga about sports, saying about Lebron and Jordan's you know.

00:47:22
Speaker 5: What I'm saying.

00:47:22
Speaker 1: Different little ship, So just trying to be a force had like those small little things like that making her bed.

00:47:27
Speaker 5: It might sound small.

00:47:32
Speaker 3: Just put tears on my own you say that, because that's the ship. I'll be doing just the simply ship.

00:47:36
Speaker 6: Ever, just make sure you do it every day.

00:47:38
Speaker 3: Then you're gonna keep like bro, I'm gonna keep it real like I say, like throwing pay doing I stopped doing it, you know what I'm saying. I just stopped doing it because like that's just gonna make me buk like even parking and the cap and ship like just stop bucking. Start ship like.

00:48:00
Speaker 6: Like just little ship that makes you ship away of that bush.

00:48:07
Speaker 1: Even even like baseball, take one base at the time, so you get on the streets. Like me, I successful in the streets. So I'm a home run here looking like that gonna take too long, you know what I'm saying. But that's what you need to do. You know what I'm take thatself. You're gonna be You're gonna be prepared for when it's when it's there, right, I'm just looking for home run here.

00:48:27
Speaker 6: It's like when you fall. It's like when you when you hit the home run.

00:48:30
Speaker 3: When you fall, and then you got stud back and swing again, like you can funk around and make it the third bas and fall.

00:48:35
Speaker 6: Back the second you gotta get back to third then trying to get home.

00:48:38
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Ship like like the quicker that ship get like lick money never lasts.

00:48:46
Speaker 6: I'm gonnau what you say, but like you just it's some free money.

00:48:50
Speaker 1: Ship, don't never work ship you got, you gotta raise your head like black Man.

00:48:56
Speaker 5: We proderful. You know what I'm saying.

00:48:58
Speaker 1: Nigga sit in the house all day along with two dollars dibaccau.

00:49:02
Speaker 5: This nigga, I'm gona figure out.

00:49:04
Speaker 6: But that I think I got that.

00:49:05
Speaker 5: We gotta cut that out.

00:49:07
Speaker 6: I think that's I think that would make us us though, bro, that.

00:49:09
Speaker 1: What makes us in that world. But the world now, look right now, we can do bits with the buy.

00:49:14
Speaker 3: But the thing about it is once you start doing what you're doing, okay, stop crashing. It got the pucket and then it's like string send me this ship, like oh hey yeah, he come on, woman, come on this ship. You know what I'm saying, because it's now moving on into this space. When you procrastinate, you gotta give a nigga something to fuck with. You can't be mad that a nigga want to take you from zero to fit.

00:49:34
Speaker 6: That nigga has some emotion. I'm gonna put this you on seventy five or put this you on eighty five. Nigga.

00:49:38
Speaker 3: Don't eat nothing but a little something, nigga, because I'm already working this ship.

00:49:42
Speaker 1: And don't put a nigga up when you ain't ready. He use attention and you ain't ready, Like be ready, be ready, be ready. You know what I'm saying, whatever sell talking about be ready?

00:49:53
Speaker 6: Be ready?

00:49:53
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

00:49:54
Speaker 3: I wouna call you tomorrow, said with me, Nah, show me everything now, I'm not ready.

00:49:58
Speaker 10: But them a nigga asked me about whatever talking about I'm saying, I got.

00:50:02
Speaker 6: It in the come.

00:50:03
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like you gotta have it on you like you're talking about the property. You're trying to really sell a dream man what I'm about to do with them. No, nigga's gonna see that you're doing it.

00:50:14
Speaker 5: Like the robs.

00:50:14
Speaker 1: You talking me. I've been telling her around. They be like, Man, I don't fuck that nick has around no more. Man, nigga switched up. I'm like, surety, this nigga has been all around the world. The motherfucking four wings and Mumbo sauce don't taste the same back room for lat Me Young taking the shell off the shrimp for the lobster form, you know what I'm saying. So he don't want to either. He don't want to do the same ship. You know what I'm saying. So it's like you got to grow to him.

00:50:39
Speaker 5: Ship? Why a black people?

00:50:41
Speaker 4: Why?

00:50:41
Speaker 2: Like why do you think that anti growth? Like growth is like we don't know, You don't know. You don't have to know to just accepted and be happy.

00:50:49
Speaker 1: No, you got it. You don't know.

00:50:51
Speaker 6: Bro.

00:50:52
Speaker 3: When you don't know, Bro, you think so small. Bro, when you're thinking in that box, Bro that she is super small. You don't know nothing to see nothing else. But it is everything, ain't It's right? It's wrong in us in certain areas.

00:51:04
Speaker 1: That's true.

00:51:04
Speaker 7: But what I want to say is too, for a lot of people when it comes to growth that they're not a part of, it's kind of like.

00:51:15
Speaker 1: A slick like jealousy because it's like.

00:51:19
Speaker 6: How are you?

00:51:20
Speaker 1: How am I right here with you? But you're going past me type ship.

00:51:25
Speaker 7: So it's like, okay, I'm finna like find something wrong with your growth so I can discredit it and make myself feel better for not fucking buckling down and doing the same ship that you just did.

00:51:37
Speaker 6: So I can take off too.

00:51:38
Speaker 5: Yeah, and another thing too. That's that's powerful what you say.

00:51:42
Speaker 1: A lot of this ship slip is little behavior like our grandma was in great grands.

00:51:53
Speaker 10: Sometimes my grandma hated like hell roof the lady got up and ship ship what it is like how it goes like stop playing bro everything they think they hot ship like I grew up in there, like like.

00:52:10
Speaker 3: My grandmama is like from like that, like my family is like you said, were from net. So it's like the bottom of it trying to come out of it.

00:52:18
Speaker 2: So it's like it's learn ain't like you said, you know, not to be a telling So what what's what's the what's the what's the biggest We're just trying to a little bit of therapy. What's the biggest way that personally everybody feel like they progress from that? Because I dealt with a little bit of coming from the cat, you know what I mean, like the niggas.

00:52:34
Speaker 4: But it can be ain't gonna lie. But is it the people you around? Is it seeing the world? Is it opportunity?

00:52:41
Speaker 1: What y'all doing? Now it's point in the beginning of it, like when he comes from do the came we came from that they can see him winning. Yeah, yeah, that's been setting down, that.

00:52:56
Speaker 3: Has been setting up like you ain't gonna make it do it per se like stop something someone, No, you got to show a nigga that it can be.

00:53:02
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

00:53:04
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, tell me like, Okay, I gotta stop doing this because this in a way. You got to show me a better way so that I can understand and not look at the next nigga making it.

00:53:15
Speaker 2: But that better way still might not see that here's the complexity of a better way. It still might not come the home run way, like because everybody's seeing like we always say, the end result of it.

00:53:24
Speaker 4: So it's like ship you.

00:53:25
Speaker 2: Wrapping, you got your contract, you got your jursey, you got on you well.

00:53:30
Speaker 1: Everything you gotta give because everybody, like he's saying that lady procrastinated. You can get. Everybody had all the information to the finish line. They still not something not gonna go, Some gonna go. So that and then a lot of times when we as people with our color, dude that don't like if a dude jumped over twenty mountains and in a thousand flight of steps to get the week going, he wants you to do more. You know what I'm saying, If you got a shortcut to that, don't let me take all of his Now, if you got a restaurant and you got the coke, you don't need to tell me we're making that The coke guy gotta tell me that shit got you, Burber, I give me all your secot the greevents. But when you get the wholesale meat from you know what I'm saying. Where where everybody buying a wholesale meat from? You know I'm saying, how don't get my business like? They don't want to tell basic shit, you know what I'm saying. So it's like and then when people get businesses like even like that's why it's fresh refreshed for people like y'all. There's every day people that's talking the way y'all talking and winning right because it's more relatable to some people get to talk about. I have people I see you twenty years ago, fifty year now, I see they niggas ain't getting no stocks out there?

00:54:27
Speaker 5: What they doing?

00:54:28
Speaker 1: They like dog you, You learned that they don't learning about that teacher. Go to the beginning involved tell them what you did. You stood outside and set the such. However you stir that you email, follow email. You know what I'm saying. You pull your pantsuffing like you gotta tell them small stuff you get there.

00:54:44
Speaker 3: I think now what you're saying is the difference is a nigga that's talking to regular people and a nigga that's talking to the bottom, right.

00:54:53
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

00:54:53
Speaker 3: We identify from the bottom right, like a nigga that don't got nothing but the gun and it dick, you know.

00:55:00
Speaker 6: What I'm saying.

00:55:01
Speaker 5: So it's like Yalla speak his language.

00:55:03
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Nigga gotta know, like, bro, you still can have patie with that. You know what I'm saying.

00:55:08
Speaker 3: You just sit back, particul yourself and got damn turn the mic on or whatever the fuck you is.

00:55:12
Speaker 6: Because one thing about it, everybody got some that they can get paid off of. Niggas don't understand that something. Everybody got something that they can make some money off of it. Bro.

00:55:22
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right.

00:55:24
Speaker 1: It ain't nothing be it ain't nothing like it is now, boll. I mean, I'm happy with God put me in where you putting, But the niggas twenty one twenty two.

00:55:31
Speaker 8: Right now, A right, I mean you know I was they gave it up now, like when the old niggas like, man, yeah, man, you just old for you.

00:55:41
Speaker 1: I still want to bribe. Yeah, I still want to hustle.

00:55:44
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

00:55:44
Speaker 5: I'm still you know, I'm still jumping.

00:55:46
Speaker 1: On planes and if your own niggas and walking down walking up on it like like I love it.

00:55:49
Speaker 5: That's what I know. You know what I'm saying.

00:55:51
Speaker 1: So like if I had that energy of young dudes, like the world is dance.

00:55:54
Speaker 3: Man, I'm gonna tell you what. I'm gonna tell you what I feel like. The old niggas scared to do bro, keep creating. Nigga feel like they gotta follow a young niggas. You know what I'm saying, be doing ship that d niggas. Okay, if we was hearing for these niggas, they do all the ship before these nigga do it. Okay, podcasting, you'll niggasna get in a podcast.

00:56:10
Speaker 6: Some old nigga need to think of the next level or some more ship, some more.

00:56:14
Speaker 3: Shit and some more shit, Like how you gonna stop because okay, now you want to got now where you're paying like these young niggas, you.

00:56:20
Speaker 6: Wanna do all the shit the young niggas do and look cheesey uh.

00:56:24
Speaker 3: I'm just being real, like nigga creates something for our aide because our people still growing up too.

00:56:30
Speaker 6: Like you know what I'm saying, Like this ship show.

00:56:32
Speaker 3: You know, I ain't just plugging our ship, but that ship for old people, I'm not.

00:56:37
Speaker 6: I don't want to go to the club and and he'll shoot them like stick music. I don't want to hear that. I want to hear some R and B.

00:56:44
Speaker 3: Let my wife smile on the front row and Jay laughing all loud and ship she might pot of scream over.

00:56:50
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, We create our own energy. That's what I feel like is the what do you call it?

00:56:57
Speaker 4: The miss the the.

00:57:00
Speaker 3: The cross up or the mix up between the old niggas and the young niggscause everybody's trying to You're trying to mix it. They said, fuck with you, cross the path, but I can't mix it. I'm not into what y'all into. I'm not against it, but I'm not with it.

00:57:14
Speaker 7: So baby, what you're saying, let the all niggas be the all niggas and let the young niggas stay the young niggas.

00:57:18
Speaker 1: Yes, but I.

00:57:21
Speaker 5: Love that young.

00:57:22
Speaker 1: I love the energy though, me too. All my buddies be rere Tombo. Man, they need her and he talking about your girl with white tobos. I don't want to hear that, man. You know what I'm saying. I'm wanting the dudes differ, Like I'm gonna be twenty five till I get out of there.

00:57:35
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

00:57:36
Speaker 1: I'll try to wrestle with my daughter older door, she's twenty nine. She's like, why are you walking here? Say I'm young, this is my walk. You know what I'm saying, Like like like I ain't. I ain't bounding too. But I agree with her. But I was gonna set the energy, I'm sure. But I mean all day, I.

00:57:52
Speaker 6: Got some five that's all be around them.

00:57:55
Speaker 3: But young niggas to get the your next to create and put it with mine and create next.

00:58:00
Speaker 1: Get the energy.

00:58:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to like But what I'm saying like, I can't be in y'all mixed, hearing what y'all talking about and doing.

00:58:07
Speaker 6: I can't be in that because I'm not gonna agree.

00:58:09
Speaker 1: I ain't going to the studio and all that. I ain't going to trap hold the studio on that no, no, no, we can go eat, we can rise and take y'all meet some dudes and all that. But but I just like I just like the energy. I like they philosophy, how they think. They so wrang like Clay, you know what I'm saying.

00:58:23
Speaker 5: I just I just like the edity. I don't like all that could play.

00:58:25
Speaker 6: In it all really check out?

00:58:29
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah you got really you gotta figure out what the nigga halfway hating and all that, like a.

00:58:35
Speaker 3: Old fun like old players bring the player like were about to bring the show to DC to you know what I'm saying, soon real, so like we about to do some players up there like them players all the major Black cities and do some players ship.

00:58:48
Speaker 6: Yeah you know what I'm saying. That's this is what this he is.

00:58:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's good.

00:58:52
Speaker 6: I'm saying. This is like if we don't we ain't gonna. I don't have fun in the club. Y you go to the club?

00:58:58
Speaker 1: N No, I'm gonna I can't out.

00:59:03
Speaker 6: I listened here, listen, I.

00:59:06
Speaker 5: Said music. I listened to music.

00:59:07
Speaker 1: Lord the little dude that God died.

00:59:09
Speaker 5: What's my little younger killed? Up Chicago? Wine k Vaughan, The Lord, the dude.

00:59:15
Speaker 1: The dude of Kentucky. Uh yeah, I listen to all this ship. I said, I see why these young nas go crazy boat his sister Lord said, so I have my flashback, more my relax more with their music.

00:59:36
Speaker 5: Right.

00:59:36
Speaker 1: But but yeah, but even with that though, man, like we was talking on a little panel DC and I was like saying, they was like the mind thinking of the youngest, right, just imagine that you plant your TV game killing, right, your music killing, your buddy's killing, and your mother and the house is empty.

00:59:54
Speaker 5: What are you gonna do?

00:59:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, you said, what do you? What are you gonna do? You know what I'm saying. It was a dude that played I'm gonna leave his name or he probe material right to high school a few years ago, and they was like, man, go talk to him all he needs to talk to him. Man, he's gonna fuck his career up. Da. So I went to horder and talked to him, rolled him out when he got some eat and all that. And as I talked to him about was about about hour and a half or two, and I had to come back and tell a dude. I say, man, that's the street dude just gonna play basketball. You know what I'm saying. He really wasn't a basketball player at first. He was a street that's happened to be good. Like when I'm talking to I'm talking to this Joya about nineteen at the time or eighteen at the time, and we went out to eat. I took him places, and I'm telling you, he ain't had no gloves on or nothing right everywhere we went. His nigga ain't touching nothing with his hands. He had a sweatshirt on, open every door. Everything. I said, this, ain't leave. He got he got to cut work here. He't even the fingers ain't nothing.

01:00:45
Speaker 6: He moved back.

01:00:45
Speaker 1: The nigga that was then Olden for the eighties. Yeah, old Killer, who's the name I'm telling him. I said, Man, why y'all doing anything? He yeah, Man, you know, man, I ain't wanted to go that far. But they playing. They shot at the woman and the kids.

01:00:57
Speaker 5: You know you can't do that.

01:00:59
Speaker 1: So at ye old talking to you know what I'm saying. So it's like, man, it's war out there for them, man, you know what I'm saying. And we gotta huggle. We can't be scared of them. We gotta we gotta huggle them. Man. If you and and my method, If I see a cruel niggas, identify the alpha and I give him attention. You know what I'm saying. When I get the alpha attention here, I let him do the rest of the talking for me. You know what I'm saying, create the opportunities for the alpha. They're gonna follow alpha, you know what I'm saying.

01:01:22
Speaker 5: So you say so.

01:01:22
Speaker 1: So that's one of my little pet peeves ones that I do what I'm dealing with them like that, you know what I'm saying.

01:01:27
Speaker 5: And then then and another thing, and people be missing. They need to take this recipe.

01:01:31
Speaker 1: The girls, them girls in the neighborhood, y'all keep talking to me, holler than lit young the little girls man enhance him and with them, They're gonna talk to them and bring them to you like it's youngest. Ain't gonna miss you. It's girls that be like okay, okay, Kurt, what you say.

01:01:44
Speaker 5: Our chief has fright.

01:01:45
Speaker 1: We've been at six. Don't worry. He'll be there. Little as me right in the back seat and the police looking for with everybody go on like like you gotta use the whole community. You know what I'm saying, like, yeah, yet definitely say you know she knows and she know how to handle them. You know what I'm saying, it's just stupid ass. Yeah that was Yes, they got to go. That's just dumb as they handle it right. But it's like for real, you gotta you gotta go. It's like they say the village raising, you gotta fuck with the whole village. You know what I'm saying, You got you gotta attack this ship.

01:02:18
Speaker 6: Man.

01:02:18
Speaker 1: You know, I need to be able to call down here like man got Togther come down and he in the studio. Whoever man can he holler at you for a hour if you busy, can let her go hollder and let.

01:02:28
Speaker 5: Him see his future in his presence. You know what I'm saying.

01:02:31
Speaker 1: Body from a Yeah, somebody from Atlanta saying, heard a lot about you. You know that's gonna be big going on.

01:02:38
Speaker 5: Be big with some gyms.

01:02:41
Speaker 2: You want to give the big fact supporters and everything before we slide. Man like his biggest gym, your biggest piece of game.

01:02:47
Speaker 1: Uh shoot, well one of us. Like I said, I always go to that joint. Learn yourself. You know you know yourself. Uh so you can always adapt to any situation. Don't let no peer pressure leads you to nothing. You know what I'm saying, Uh to nothing. I don't care. I don't care what it is. Man, stand on your word. You know what I'm saying, Be honorable your word. However you walk, people gonna watch your walk. You can talk that slick shit, all that hoods on, people gonna watch your walk. If you go to every hood, any hood you grew up. But this thing about this person that went walked through this hood every day with the school did he did, kept his job. Trouble just went all around him. They be like, that's Mike, Mike right there. You know he supposed to go to the trouble you in college, he walked to that same shit. But people he made the neighborhood say he ain't with that. He chose that life and if something happened to him, they're gonna fuck some shit up for him. You'm saying, so, you gotta know who you is, You gotta walk, be comfortable who you is. It's gonna pan out. It's gonna pan out. Man. It means if you get twenty twenty eight, like like like basket point guard the floor will open up. You know what I'm saying. When you young, he's like this shit fuck that might know. Just take your time. The floor will open up and go back to your go back to your call. Man, be confident you is man. Don't let no p pressure on no level. Don't let no money, don't let every room I go in, And I've been in some rooms. Some nigga got some bag, some rappers, some cous track own them. Some I fel like I'm the bad the rule. It ain't no assault of the rule. That's how I feel.

01:04:14
Speaker 6: That's how that's how I feel.

01:04:16
Speaker 1: It ain't no salt in rule. And then some and something confist that like something myffuck. They can sense that ship. Don't fuck yet because it's there. It's there's there for you.

01:04:25
Speaker 6: But the motherfucker that think like me exactly exact I'm coming up.

01:04:31
Speaker 1: It's an energy you gotta put off what you want.

01:04:33
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

01:04:34
Speaker 1: And don't be afraid.

01:04:36
Speaker 5: That's all. Don't be afraid. I'm gonna say that. Don't be afraid.

01:04:38
Speaker 4: Man, the game, they can get more of that game.

01:04:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Kirk Bowl TV man YouTube. Man, it's my little saying man's streets that I made for everybody. It's like created sidewalk. You know what I'm saying. It's a little saying we say all the way back in the eighties, right, but it's like for real, man, you can see me a kirk bow TV YouTube please subscribe. But also my Instagram is kirk boone c U R T B O N B O n E underscore DC And I respond like you did me that. I might can't respond in a day or two, but I like that time. I got an hour. I just go hit people because I mean people hit me from all over mother's doors. I love this shit because at the end of the day, guess what's all that shit I did to get up this little halfway little hood of reputation. I gotta see the big fella at something. At some point, I got to see the big fella. You know what I'm saying.

01:05:23
Speaker 6: You feel like you're in your purpose right now or.

01:05:24
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I fleck him my purpose. I fleck my purpose like like like always was a trail blaze, Like if I did the Rayful DVD in two thousand and five, d C that was a taboo. Man, he about to nigga, I was in the case, So I'm not telling I'm talking about my wife. Now, I did that about five niggas I got on Murder b DC, tell that story. I did the podcast now about five niggas that from my era, Like, I ain't never worry about what a nigga with a nigga thinking. You know what I'm saying, I'm I'm a Blaze the player. You're gonna figure it out later or you gonna see me in the restaurant. You know, I respect that. You know what I'm saying. If you don't respect it, you don't respect it. It is what I'm saying. Yeah, but I definitely enjoy Big Fact. You're doing the Big Factor making you know you you no chicken. You don't mess around every nigga there Chicken Friday. I'm very nigga that they got Damn the I just don't.

01:06:17
Speaker 7: I'm gonna take you to Track City Cafe.

01:06:19
Speaker 1: Okay, figure that out, Okay, y'all. The Big Fact he got a lot of friends with the school man man.

01:06:26
Speaker 4: It's real man, big shout love.

01:06:30
Speaker 6: On the streets.

01:06:31
Speaker 1: It's Big Fact.

01:06:33
Speaker 6: Don't captain Bitch