One move down, more to come: Phillies bring back David Robertson

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Title: One move down, how many more to come? David Robertson rejoins Phillies 

The Phillies are turning to an old friend to help their struggling bullpen.

They have agreed to a prorated, $16 million contract with right-hander David Robertson. The deal allowed the Phillies to keep their prospects for other trades, like for a big-time closer and maybe even a right-handed bat.

We discuss the Robertson deal, plus the need for a bat to protect Bryce Harper and Kyle Schwarber, especially with Alec Bohm sidelined the next few weeks.

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00:00:04
Speaker 1: Hi, this is Kyle Forber and welcome to The Philly Show.

00:00:08
Speaker 2: Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd z Alecki.

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Speaker 3: It's the Philly Show.

00:00:13
Speaker 2: Hey everybody, Yeah, it is Hey everybody.

00:00:15
Speaker 3: It's a it's been a little Howard's tern impression.

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Speaker 2: It's a Monday, July twenty first, twenty twenty five. How are you, guys?

00:00:24
Speaker 4: Were good?

00:00:25
Speaker 3: Were good out there?

00:00:26
Speaker 2: I hope everybody's doing good, doing great, Yeah, Jim.

00:00:30
Speaker 5: Phillies fans, The Phillies fans aren't.

00:00:33
Speaker 3: No, Phillies fans are not happy. Not a great weekend.

00:00:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've lost two out of three of the Angels.

00:00:40
Speaker 6: They've lost three straight series.

00:00:43
Speaker 3: Three straight series.

00:00:45
Speaker 4: No bueno.

00:00:47
Speaker 2: They haven't been playing great ball for less last six weeks or.

00:00:52
Speaker 6: So, twenty and twenty one since June first, twenty and twenty one.

00:00:57
Speaker 3: Yes, there's a lot. There's a lot going on right now.

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Speaker 6: They're lucky. The Mets are like twenty and twenty two over that span.

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Speaker 4: You're right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, imagine if the Mets were playing solid ball right now, they'd be four or five six games back.

00:01:10
Speaker 6: Imagine if the Phillies, if somebody was playing solid ball, there would be some air between those two teams.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so there's a lot, a lot of holes to be filled, a lot of play to be improved. But hey, after the game today, the Phillies made a big move and that's a great place to start with. The park's first pitch. First pitch is brought to us exclusively by our partners at Parks Casino, Pennsylvania's number one casino.

00:01:45
Speaker 3: So, guys, the news.

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Speaker 2: The news today, of course, is that the Phillies got some bullpen help. We actually talked about this in late May. I don't know if you make guys, remember a Mark Fines at MLB dot com wrote about David robertson free agentsy pursuit and I think the Phillies might have been mentioned in that story, and you know, we talked about it. But they've agreed.

00:02:07
Speaker 3: They've agreed to terms.

00:02:09
Speaker 2: Sixteen million, about around sixteen million. Maybe it's not exactly sixteen million, but it's around sixteen million pro rated, pro rated of course, Yeah, that has to be mentioned. So he'll be paid anywhere from you know, five to six million dollars until the end of the season. Now, because the Phillies are over the luxury tax, they're tax at one hundred and ten percent of that, So they're going to be paying David five to six million, and then they're gonna be paying the luxury tax about you know, a little bit more than that, so double that.

00:02:42
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

00:02:42
Speaker 2: So it's a good eleven twelve million dollar move right there.

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Speaker 6: The Phillies are deep in cash. They didn't have to give up a prospect. I think it's a pretty good flyer. He had a great year last year, struck out over twelve dollars per nine innings his third time through here. They know him well. He apparently threw for nine teams over the weekend and the Phillies like what they saw and boom he's here. Yeah.

00:03:07
Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with it.

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Speaker 1: They don't have to give up any talent collateral, and you know, the the reality of it is they probably have to give up a lot for you know, for the players that may or may not be available.

00:03:25
Speaker 5: Like I've been saying, it's hard to make trades, man, it's difficult. And in this day and age, when everybody's.

00:03:31
Speaker 7: Looking for the same thing and there's so many teams that are still in it, there's probably ten teams that can win it, and and so there's there's a lot more buyers than our sellers, and there's not a whole lot of inventory out there.

00:03:46
Speaker 4: So nice move by the Phillies. I don't mind.

00:03:48
Speaker 6: And they need the way I look at it, we've talked about this. I think they need three relievers, so they got one. I mean, we'll see what he does, but I mean there's a chance he could, you know, I guess they'll have to get a little minor we have time in, but there's a chance he could be the third best reliever, like day one in red pinstripes.

00:04:07
Speaker 4: The question for you, Jim, is you need they need three? Is one of those coming from the Phillies rotation?

00:04:13
Speaker 6: Yes, So I've said that all along I need.

00:04:17
Speaker 4: So that's one. That's two. So they didn't want more.

00:04:20
Speaker 6: Solid to me, you're gonna shoot for the moon on somebody, that big dominant, laid ending guy. Then I thought, you need a second tier guy. I think that's David Robertson. And then one guy comes from the rotation. We'll see who that is. But you know, they're moving in the right direction in that bullpen. Uh, you know, we don't know what the results are going to be, but at least in terms of addressing the need dating.

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Speaker 2: So he's forty years old. Last year with the Rangers, yeah, he had a good year last year. He was three and four three point zero zero e ra A. My understanding was he made ten million dollars last year for the Rangers. My understanding was is that he was looking for a raise.

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Speaker 6: Fifteen.

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Speaker 2: I heard, yeah, yeah, fifteen. You know, I've heard you know, yeah, twelve to fifteen. So let's say fifteen, and nobody wanted to meet that price. And I guess he was content in saying, you know what, I'm not gonna pitch for less than I feel like i'm worth and sat out and he's been spending the summer and you're in your old neck of the woods, Jim helping Providence, Rhode Island.

00:05:25
Speaker 4: Hey, so here's the thing.

00:05:26
Speaker 8: So, so let me just tell you what the mentality is when people say, well, what if someone offered him twelve million, why wouldn't signed with that? Well, he's also thinking more long term as far as the union is concerned.

00:05:38
Speaker 4: He's thinking about, you know, the future.

00:05:40
Speaker 8: He doesn't need the money. I guarantee he doesn't need the money. He's made plenty of money in his lifetime and in his career.

00:05:48
Speaker 5: It's about trying to make sure that they moved the needle for a player of this caliber and making sure that a number is not locked down into a lower number then maybe the.

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Speaker 4: Union would like to see. So that's all part of this as well.

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Speaker 6: But I also think, I also think, I mean, I also think this is what David Robertson thinks he's worth. And he ain't gonna budge for anything anything less than he's worth. And he had a great year last year. And I think that's haven't gotten to know him a little bit. I mean, I think he's a guy who this is my value. If you don't meet it, I'm like you said, I made enough money. But if you can meet it, I'm going to try to come help your team.

00:06:27
Speaker 2: He's made over one hundred million dollars in his career, a great career. Yeah, he's this will be what you're seventeen for him. So he's going to take his physical in Philly. It deals not official yet, of course, he has to pass the physical. There's no reason to think he won't pass the physical. How quickly do you think he can get wrapped up do you think he can be Do you think he could.

00:06:48
Speaker 3: Be over under.

00:06:52
Speaker 2: Pitching for the Phillies by let's say, I'm going to really push it now, maybe it's not pushing it.

00:06:57
Speaker 3: August fourth, that'd be right around.

00:07:00
Speaker 6: I think I think he's ready by July thirty. First, Yeah, I think he's coming. I heard he's coming to Philadelphia on Monday today. Get his physical and you know, throw a uniform on your back and go find a place to pitch. I don't know what, three four or five outings, and then maybe he's ready. I mean, he's not going to be intimidated by the situation. He knows, he knows what he's doing. And then maybe Rob could work him in. You're not going to throw him out in the age inning maybe right away, but you know, you work him in a little bit less pressurized and let him work his way towards the back. See what you got.

00:07:33
Speaker 4: But let's let's right, let's think. Let's think Matt strong, Matt Strom was ready in a minute, have a spring training, true, and he has been thrown ready.

00:07:45
Speaker 5: Wasn't necessarily ready ready, but he was. He had a little elbow issue or whatever it was. I think it was an elbow issue or shoulder and he was ready in like.

00:07:56
Speaker 4: One outing.

00:07:58
Speaker 5: I know had he had been knowing, but I would assume that Dave David Robertson's been throwing. The other reason why he's back is because they treated him.

00:08:06
Speaker 4: Really well here.

00:08:06
Speaker 5: He likes this organization. They treat their players well, they treat their families well.

00:08:10
Speaker 4: There's a whole.

00:08:13
Speaker 8: Piece of this that that'll tell you a lot about what John Middleton and Dave Dombrowski have built as far as a destination spot.

00:08:23
Speaker 3: So we still think that.

00:08:25
Speaker 6: I also bet they offered him the most money.

00:08:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah.

00:08:30
Speaker 6: I mean it's nice to be treated nice, but this this guy wanted to be paid what he thought he was worth, and I think the Philly has met that price because they are desperate in the bullpen and they got money, and then you have to give up prospect.

00:08:43
Speaker 9: And that's it.

00:08:44
Speaker 5: They probably were battling with them, and they're probably battling with their their Mets rivals because the guy.

00:08:49
Speaker 6: No question, I heard the Mets watch them, The Yankees, the Dodgers, Red Sox were on them. All all your contending teams were taking a peek at.

00:08:57
Speaker 4: Of course they were.

00:08:59
Speaker 2: Smart move now the Phillies can still go out and get that big late inning guy with you know. Last Friday's episode, we talked about what twenty five thirty guys potential trade names for the Phillies flow or no flow. We fiuys, there's some guys that give you guys some good flow. Felix Bautista Duran from Minnesota. Now you still have some some You have all those chips to potentially get one of those guys if if you know Orioles want to trade them or the Twinkies.

00:09:31
Speaker 3: The twinkies, Yeah, exactly, so.

00:09:36
Speaker 4: Get some flow no flow?

00:09:37
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00:09:55
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00:10:21
Speaker 3: The ball started here.

00:10:22
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00:10:22
Speaker 3: Oh wait, before you start, I gotta mention this. Can't believe you almost forgot.

00:10:26
Speaker 2: Next Sunday, July twenty seventh, Woo, We're gonna be doing a live show at Manco and Manco on the Ocean City Boardwalk, their flagship store.

00:10:40
Speaker 3: We will be there. The three of us.

00:10:43
Speaker 2: Are smiling faces, talking Phillies ball. We might even have a guest or two pop in little little surprise here or there, pop in. So come down to Manco Manco on Sunday, July twenty seventh. Show starts at eleven thirty. It should be a lot of fun. We could be talking about a big trade the Philly has just made, might be close to making.

00:11:04
Speaker 3: It'll be great. So stop by that.

00:11:05
Speaker 2: All right, So let's let's talk Manco Manco Best Week.

00:11:10
Speaker 3: Who wants to start.

00:11:13
Speaker 2: Jamid Like remember Arnold Horseshack.

00:11:23
Speaker 6: Schwaba going with had a great All Star game, won the MVP on that that slug off or whatever you call it. Yeah, and then he comes swing off, comes back, hits a couple of bombs, Grand Slam got him a win. On Saturday Night. Him and Harper combined for five home runs over the weekend. That was good to see, one of the only good things to see. But you know, schwar with that Grand Slam, and he had a home run on Friday night. And this guy is a class act. He is a class actor. Was not at the game Saturday night. I was there on Sunday, But you know, I'm watching the postgame interview with Tom and John Kruk, and he just answers every question. You know, some guys put on the headset and it's these you know, perfunctory wrote answers without any thought. He listens to every question and he gives you a good, thoughtful answer. Use his people's names. The guy has a class dude, and he's a class player, and he's the man com manco best of the week for me, You got there, Todd.

00:12:30
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna take Kyle Schwarber as well, coming off the All Star Pilon.

00:12:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna pile on. It was really either one of two guys for me. But I did put down Schwarber.

00:12:42
Speaker 2: All Star Game MVP, Gay Phillies fans something cheer about, get excited about it, got people talking about, you know, could this be something they do down the road. And then of course you know, the Big Grand Slam the other night. Continues to hit the ball well thirty plus home runs every time he hits a home run. I just see that paid that number going up and up and up. What's going to take to resign him? So but tremendous week for Kyle Sharmer.

00:13:08
Speaker 3: What about you, Reuben.

00:13:09
Speaker 5: I'm going off the board and going with my man, Bryce Harper. He has turned it on huge so por Prior to yesterday's game, he was twelve for twenty four in a six game hitting streak during the week, seven doubles, four jacks.

00:13:28
Speaker 4: In a six game period. Now he went over four with a couple of punchouts on Sunday.

00:13:35
Speaker 5: But I mean, this guy has been raking and ever since he got back from the IL with his wrist issue, I mean he's hitting over three hundred.

00:13:45
Speaker 4: His ops is right around one thousand. I mean, he's doing some damage. And they need him. He is the most important person in their lineup right now.

00:13:55
Speaker 8: And if he can turn it on and be MVP Bryce Harper for the next two months then and then beyond that, because I know he'll show up in the in the postseason, then the Phillies got They got something going.

00:14:09
Speaker 5: So Bryce Harper is my best of a week.

00:14:13
Speaker 2: I love it. I mean, you know, you see you see Schwarburn and Harper kind of go off this weekend. You know, the home runs and man, you just go if they could just get a couple more guys going, or maybe they find some help internally, maybe some guys step up, you know.

00:14:29
Speaker 3: I just you think that those two.

00:14:31
Speaker 2: Guys can really kind of carry a lineup potentially, you know, going forward.

00:14:35
Speaker 4: So we'll see.

00:14:36
Speaker 2: But but yeah, just a tremendous, tremendous week for those guys, so no doubt. Yeah, Phillies open a big, big three game series on Monday night against the Red Sox at Citizens Bank Park. Should be I'm guessing all three of those games are gonna be sellouts or darn near close to it. If you can't get a sellout, though, you can always go to Park Casino you can watch the games there, or if you're at home, you can have a little fun on your phone, make a little bit more interesting, right Rubin.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're back, Uh, Phillies, get out, go out. Sunday night, they reach and agreement with David Robertson is taking a physical, could be pitching for the Phillies before the end of the month for the trade deadline. We agree that they need to go out, guys and get that lockdown stud reliever.

00:18:03
Speaker 1: Right.

00:18:03
Speaker 2: We're not talking about another David Robertson compish guy. Right, He's go out, get the Felix Bautista, get the Duran you know not you know that type of quality of guy. But I want to get your opinion on this, Jim, you mentioned this at the beginning. Phillies are twenty and twenty one since June first.

00:18:23
Speaker 3: It's not great. They are.

00:18:26
Speaker 2: They've scored two or fewer runs and fifteen of those forty one games no win, no point now, no no point, no reubin.

00:18:34
Speaker 3: That's right.

00:18:35
Speaker 2: They are twenty first in that span in home runs per game, they're nineteenth in slug they're twentieth in runs per game, four point twenty seven runs per game. I can't help but think that if they don't do something to help this offense, the bullpen might be great going down the stretch, but I might be sitting we might be sitting there in August October going they me they should have gotten out and done something. And I'm always reminded of the Pat Gillick mantra or phrase.

00:19:07
Speaker 3: He always said, you always talked.

00:19:09
Speaker 2: About incremental improvements. You might not get CC Sabathia before the two thousand and eight tread the headline, but you might get Joe Blenn instead, and that might help your rotation just a little bit.

00:19:22
Speaker 3: So you go on and win the division, and you go on and winning the World Series.

00:19:26
Speaker 2: Do you guys have any thoughts on especially with Alec Bohm now out a month? There you go, So now if you're David Dobrowski, or let's just ask you guys, are you guys sitting there going they got to go out and do something because they can't go three four weeks without Alec Bohm and then even then when f Alec Bohm whenever he does come back, you know, left field, you're getting production there. You know, Bryce's Stott's kind of falling off. I mean, you know Capler's falling off.

00:19:57
Speaker 3: The urgency in your guys' minds.

00:20:00
Speaker 6: I think we all think they need a right handed bet, and we've thought it all along. The problem is there isn't really that humongous difference maker that you know, marquee right handed bet Buxton would be great, but he's gonna cost a ton and he doesn't want to wave his no trade clause. So that's not that you know, there's more marginal tweaks. I mean the guy that was in town over the weekend, Taylor Ward, had a really nice weekend. Every time I looked up another extra base hit bouncing one off the wall. I mean, he cleared the bases with one swing on Sunday after Mike Trout should have been struck out. That was a horrible call, cost Ranger Suarez five runs, poor umpiring, but nonetheless Taylor Ward swung it really good. I know he strikes out, he's he's streaky, but I personally think they need a big arm in the back of the bullpen even more. This offense is streaky, but there are times when they're highs can be awfully high. But it would be nice to get it right handed back, especially if they could tune something in left field or part of a left field. But you know, they need something. They just they only have so much trade capital, and I still think their number one need is out of the bullpen.

00:21:20
Speaker 5: I would agree with that, except I'm starting to change my mind a little bit on this overall lineup because there's a real issue now.

00:21:27
Speaker 4: With Alec Polme out.

00:21:28
Speaker 5: I don't know how long they'll be out.

00:21:31
Speaker 4: It is a fracture. I don't know if how long it's going to take. Is it a month, is it two months? Is he done for the year. I don't think so, but as possible.

00:21:41
Speaker 5: And there's nobody to protect Bryce Harper in the lineup now the way it's constituted.

00:21:47
Speaker 6: So are we talking what are we talk? We're talking Suarez. I'm sorry, are we talking Eugenio Suarez?

00:21:54
Speaker 5: I'm talking somebody who can drive the ball out of the ballpark and protect those guys. Yes, talking about getting guys that are super streaky, and you hope the streak is going right when when you get them, because you're not going to get like a bona fide. You're not gonna get Manny Ramirez. He's not out there, okay, But you might have to get a guy like Taylor Ward.

00:22:15
Speaker 4: You might have to get that guy.

00:22:17
Speaker 5: I wasn't big on him, but they need the right handed bat that can that can scare somebody in a lineup, and if you don't have some some kind of protection.

00:22:26
Speaker 4: Castianos has had a decent year, but I don't think that Bryce Harper.

00:22:30
Speaker 5: I would if I'm if I am a opposing team and there is a situation where Bryce Harper can beat me, there is no way on.

00:22:39
Speaker 4: Pitching that dude.

00:22:40
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna go after Castianos, especially with the way it's constituted right now, and so that puts a really big wrench. Now, Alec Bahm can drive in some runs because he has the ability to put the ball in play more consistently, and he's a tougher generally, a tougher out than Castillanos, says. Castianos is a little bit more free swinging. He's had a pretty good year this year, but he's not a guy that would scare you in the lineup such that he could protect Harper in the lineup.

00:23:08
Speaker 4: I need to get a.

00:23:08
Speaker 5: Guy now, I need to get a guy and so. And I still think that they got to put all their chips in. I would put all the damn chips in. You want to know why, because there's teams that are just not that damn good and everybody's got flaws, and any team can win this World Series.

00:23:25
Speaker 6: So you're talking, you're talking they're gonna have to give up five prospects to get a bat and a and a big reliever.

00:23:31
Speaker 12: I'm talking at least three or four of them. Yes, and I would do it. You know, maybe that's why, No, I don't disagree.

00:23:42
Speaker 3: Well, we've talked about it.

00:23:44
Speaker 5: They have a chance to win, and if they don't win, they're gonna have to blow it up anyway.

00:23:49
Speaker 2: You know what's so funny is like we've been talking about this, how there's every team out there. The Dodgers just got swept by the Brewers. Now the Brewers have been had a really surprise in season. The Brewers have swept the Dodgers all six games. They swept the season series. You know, so like you know, the and the Dodgers just a couple of weeks ago, I'd lost, gotten swept like a back to back series.

00:24:10
Speaker 3: So that's the Dodgers. They were supposed to win one hundred and.

00:24:13
Speaker 2: Twenty five games and and they're you know, so they're flawed. The Phillies, we know all their flaws because we watch them every single day. You know, the people in New York with the Mets. Mets fans are saying, oh my god, our team stinks. Cubs fans have their issues, you know, Brewers fans listen.

00:24:31
Speaker 3: I was just spent the last week in Wisconsin.

00:24:34
Speaker 11: I know the Brewers.

00:24:35
Speaker 3: I know the Brewers have issues as well, and concerns as well.

00:24:38
Speaker 2: Uh, talking to people there and uh so either you go for it or again you don't go for it.

00:24:46
Speaker 4: So you know at the Phillies does not dip your toe in anymore. Man, I'm diving all the way.

00:24:52
Speaker 6: All right, I've a angle. Boy has a question for the general manager.

00:24:56
Speaker 4: All right, Yes, the answer is yes, I traded him.

00:25:03
Speaker 10: So no, do you do?

00:25:05
Speaker 1: You do?

00:25:06
Speaker 6: You go get a Suarez and you cement his butt at third base and you let Bom heal, and when Bom comes back, he and Harper split d H in first base and Schwarber has to go to left field. And and also do you send three big ones down there to Baltimore for Bautista because you need you need him, you need him too. Yes, Okay, so you better win the World Series because you've just gutted the upper tier of your training and two best A ball players you're training.

00:25:55
Speaker 5: Abel Miller, the centerfielder Cross, you're training tight andskebar.

00:26:05
Speaker 6: Correct, all five of them, and maybe maybe Gene Cabrera who having a pretty good year at double A.

00:26:14
Speaker 4: Five of them trade them better win, just better win.

00:26:16
Speaker 6: And I agree, it's all about winning at the major league level. I just wish I had a crystal ball to know if I am giving up all these pieces that I am going to have a parade. If I'm gonna have a parade, I'm doing it.

00:26:27
Speaker 4: Is Suarez Suarez under control after.

00:26:29
Speaker 6: This year's a free agent?

00:26:31
Speaker 4: I do not, Then I don't, Then he's don't. He's just one guy, Okay, one one really good.

00:26:36
Speaker 5: I'm talking about if you're gonna go get somebody, I believe in getting people who you're gonna have control of Batista, You have control of Correct two years.

00:26:46
Speaker 6: Yeah, I believe.

00:26:46
Speaker 3: I believe it's this year, next year, So then.

00:26:51
Speaker 6: The Yankees, Yankees, I think you're gonna be on Suarez. I mean, if you're Mike Haysen, are you on the phone to Dave Dombroski already? Hey, I heard about Alec Bohm?

00:27:01
Speaker 4: I would I would think so?

00:27:03
Speaker 9: Right? Why not?

00:27:04
Speaker 4: Yeah?

00:27:05
Speaker 9: Why not? Why not?

00:27:08
Speaker 2: The Phillies are just such in such a unique spot as well, because you know, Schwarber's free agent, real mot is a free agent, Swarz is a free ranger.

00:27:14
Speaker 3: Swarz is a free agent.

00:27:16
Speaker 2: And so yeah, if you don't go for it and you fall short, say they say they get Felix Bautista, but they don't get a bat, and again the bat, the bat's fall short in the in the postseason or down the stretch or whatever, and then you're gonna be asking yourself. You know, they're gonna get killed for not going out and addressing the addressing the lineup. I mean, really does Harper said this this weekend? You know, the twenty six guys in this clubhouse, I have to do their jobs better. And that's you know, we've we've said that all along as well.

00:27:42
Speaker 6: But but there were maybe Suarez become maybe Suarez becomes your d H when Bomb's back and Schwarber has to go to left field. It's one less moving correct one less moving one less moving part. Possibly, can I make the argument at but Schwarber has to play left field.

00:28:02
Speaker 4: In all of this and if I don't move, yes, he does, and I'm okay with that. If they don't happen to move Crawford, than the deal I bring him to the big leagues.

00:28:12
Speaker 5: Bring him to the big leagues and play him in center field, because I do not like the idea of having Castillanos, marsh and Schwarbur in that outfield.

00:28:19
Speaker 4: That's a rough outfield.

00:28:22
Speaker 9: Yeah, you better that that those that right handed back that you get better out slug. The possibilities of them giving up a lot of runs in the outfield, how much fascin It's not gonna be fascinating. It's gonna I mean fascinating.

00:28:39
Speaker 2: Do we think that Schwarburg can Swarbur be a better defender? I mean, he's obviously in tremendous shape and he's moving better. Can he just be incrementally better than he was a few years ago? I mean, he ranked as one of the worst defensives out there, and I'll make the argument that what they're getting right now in left field is certainly offensive production wise for sure, but a defensively.

00:29:00
Speaker 3: I mean, Kepler's played pretty.

00:29:01
Speaker 2: Good outfield and left field, but it's not like they're getting this amazing defense in left field where you're gonna have a.

00:29:11
Speaker 3: Dramatic, such a dramatic drop off defense. I mean, it's going to be a drop off.

00:29:15
Speaker 4: But I would stick the guy in left field.

00:29:17
Speaker 8: If you can get a right handed bat, I put him in right in left field, a big right.

00:29:21
Speaker 4: Handed bat, somebody that's going to protect Bryce Harper.

00:29:26
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, a big right handed bat correct him.

00:29:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, the chips right on in there.

00:29:37
Speaker 6: I need, I need to know he's not going to be streaky. He's gonna have like, you know, like he did in June. Yeah, James, it's it's very it's very intriguing, very interesting, fascinating. It ain't necessarily the the two months of defense you worry about, which forwards that it's that one play in that one big game that can swing something.

00:30:05
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, but it's a big home run that can swing it too.

00:30:10
Speaker 13: It's the beauty of the baseball because not always the best, the best team doesn't always win, like in the NFL, or on a soccer Matt pitch, or you know, in a basketball series, the best team typically wins, not a baseball.

00:30:27
Speaker 6: Speaking of that, Taylor Ward and that what did you think of that pitch to uh Trout, that three two pitcher?

00:30:33
Speaker 5: That was very unfortunate that the pitch was not called a strike. It is it will not happen next year because that will be called.

00:30:42
Speaker 2: Somebody.

00:30:43
Speaker 4: I mean, somebody's gonna do that.

00:30:45
Speaker 6: Yep.

00:30:46
Speaker 5: And there were some lot of high pitches called on Mike Trout, but they were all strikes the whole series except that one.

00:30:53
Speaker 4: And they crushed the Phillies today.

00:30:55
Speaker 6: And Ranger had a great quote up to the game because he was he was pretty hard on himself. Says my command, he said, my command was awfully. That was the one pitch I executed all day.

00:31:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny.

00:31:09
Speaker 6: That's a great line, which wasn't exactly true. In the first inning, he threw a couple beautiful uh you know, paint brush you know, paint strokes with a paint brush on the inside corner the writings. But he did have a lot of trouble with his command, and that pitch cost him five runs, and you're so right. Next year doesn't happen.

00:31:27
Speaker 2: What happens, doesn't happen, man Man Phillies Red Sox series begins Monday night, six forty five pm Walker Buehler, who struggled this year, against Zach Wheeler, Tuesday night six forty five Richard Fits against Christopher Sanchez, and then Wednesday night seven five pm Lucas Glito against Jesus Lozardo.

00:31:48
Speaker 6: So Phillis Phillies need a good one from Zach Wheeler.

00:31:52
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because they have no bullpen.

00:31:54
Speaker 6: This weekend against the Angels, they got four and a third from Lozardo, four from Taiwan Walker, and four and two thirds from Ranger. Nobody made it through the fifth inning. This team's vaunted starting pitching was not good on the first series out of the break. And you know, this team's got enough little flaws that you don't want to be seeing any little dents in the armor in that starting pitching rotation. So they need to get back on the horse. Monday Night Red Sox one thirteen out of sixteen. You know, I follow them a little bit. They are hungry team. They're playing hungry man baseball Philly's gotta, you know, come out here and they gotta win Game one of this series.

00:32:40
Speaker 3: They absolutely do.

00:32:41
Speaker 4: Amen, Absolutely yeah.

00:32:43
Speaker 3: All right, We'll be back later this week with more Billies.

00:32:47
Speaker 6: See you guys later, Smell you Leada Boys, Smelling Jim.

00:32:52
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